WEBVTT METADATA Video-Count: 1 Video-1: youtube.com/watch?v=AFdlXbDKcVg NOTE MEETING SECTIONS: Part 1 (Video ID: AFdlXbDKcVg): - 00:00:00: Meeting Commencement: Pledge, Open Public Meeting Act, Roll Call - 00:04:10: Approval of April 6th Meeting Minutes and Budget Discussion - 06:22:88: Forester's Report: Juniper Drive, Greenwood Road, Tree Assessments - 09:31:36: Forester's Report Cont: Cap Replacement, Community Garden Concerns - 10:49:04: Forester's Report Cont: Diana Road, Trobridge Concerns - 15:39:27: Old Business: Arbor Day Review and Commendations - 17:45:60: Old Business: Review and Feedback on Working Document - 29:37:84: Old Business: Removal Criteria and Power Company Pruning - 31:59:91: Old Business: Grants, Trees for Schools and Porter Grant - 36:57:59: New Business: Tree Deaths and Salt Exposure Concerns - 39:57:68: New Business: Poison Ivy Infestation at Community Park - 42:17:59: New Business: Kathleen Place Trees, Servo Warranty - 45:59:76: New Business: Diseased Trees and State Grant Delay - 52:36:80: Adjournment of Meeting Part: 1 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:22.240 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, liberty and justice for all. >> I hereby announce that this meeting is being held in accordance with chapter 2 00:00:22.240 --> 00:00:39.680 231 of the open public meeting act. Proper notice of meeting dates has been given to the Morris newsfeed and the Morris County Daily Record and posted in Bulletin Bur call, please. Every time 3 00:00:39.680 --> 00:00:55.680 notice to members of the She Commission and Burough staff, any use of electronic devices during this meeting shall be used solely for the purpose of burrow business. Call >> Mrs. Dy present. >> Mr. Mr. >> President, 4 00:00:55.680 --> 00:01:19.439 >> Mr. Mer >> here, >> Mrs. Steer >> present representative for >> but I believe she's going to be sworn in on >> Thursday. Welcome to the bur. >> Thank you. Happy to work with all of 5 00:01:19.439 --> 00:01:42.320 you. looking forward to. Okay. Um, next order of uh to talk. Okay. >> What kind of works? >> Okay. >> Okay. The minutes from the April 6th uh 6 00:01:42.320 --> 00:02:02.479 meeting. Um, does I have a correction? I was just made aware of. Uh, so does anybody else have any corrections that need to be made to those minutes? >> I have corrections. >> Okay. >> So Karen and I just talked about it in 7 00:02:02.479 --> 00:02:18.400 old business under grants. Uh, we're making an adjustment to the name of the grant. It was captured incorrectly or I said it incorrectly. It's the William J. Porter Community Tree Project Award. Um and then the sentence start she said we have applied before we ever received it. 8 00:02:18.400 --> 00:02:33.360 To be more clear it said we applied but we didn't win. And then in section let's see okay under the plain talk article there were just two typos. This thought it was well written and it 9 00:02:33.360 --> 00:02:51.280 should say covered all the points. The sec the next sentence the word add was missing. So it should say she would add the Morris plants has been a tree city USA for 49 years and comments the secrets comments were 10 00:02:51.280 --> 00:03:25.440 provided toward anyone else before I make my Um the third page um when we're discussing the property on Silvin Drive um it says that Mayor Carr stated as was already discussed these funds um to cover this cost of building ground 11 00:03:25.440 --> 00:03:46.640 budget. That is incorrect. These funds will come out of the ordinance that was passed when the property was purchased. >> Okay. page 12 I'm sorry come out of the course of what 12 00:03:46.640 --> 00:04:10.319 >> no it'll come out there's funding remaining in the ordinance that was passed to purchase that property that's where these funds will come out of >> okay >> anyone else or anything No. Seeing as there's nothing else, 13 00:04:10.319 --> 00:04:29.040 could I have a motion to approve the minutes of the April 6, 2026 meeting? >> Correct. >> Correct. Excuse me. >> Second that motion. >> Roll. >> Yeah. Roll. >> Okay. >> Mrs. Mr. 14 00:04:29.040 --> 00:04:46.639 Mr. Mrs. >> Okay. This is our comments from the public. Seeing it there are none. I'll move past this. So, uh, next line item is the budget. 15 00:04:46.639 --> 00:05:04.880 Um, I believe this council meeting is when the budgets will be finalized. Uh, just want to just add an asterct to the budget. We did do the spring plan thing. So if you add in that uh it takes us from the the 16 figure that's in there 16 00:05:04.880 --> 00:05:33.280 to uh around 245. >> No, I know. I'm just giving everybody just like where we are if you incorporate all that just for better budget tracking. And then the the other thing I do want to say um I just need to come in and sit with you. I just want to 17 00:05:33.280 --> 00:06:03.199 correct just some of the lines and just ensure that the correct figures are in the correct buckets. >> How much is the top of your head? How much is servo charging per >> just so you know there's one tree that 18 00:06:03.199 --> 00:06:22.880 >> the day correct >> the budget like I said that should hopefully be getting approved this council meeting and I'll just work with Karen just to ensure that the distribution lines are are updated in the correct manner. 19 00:06:22.880 --> 00:06:41.039 Okay, communications. Seeing there are none, moving forward to the foresters report. >> Thank you. Uh starting with memo 2615 12 Juniper Drive, corn of Mountain Way. Um I believe that's something DPW is 20 00:06:41.039 --> 00:06:57.120 going to handle. So, let me just uh clarify on this one a little bit more. So, this is will not be handled by the DPW. This was uh given to the zoning officer. Uh this is a shrub on the 21 00:06:57.120 --> 00:07:13.919 corner uh next to that telephone pole that blocks the line of sight. That's kind of how this came about. This is a resident on on the back of that property. It's pretty tough to make a left out of there uh to come up Mountain Way. So this was given to the zoning officer. 22 00:07:13.919 --> 00:07:33.280 >> What is zoning going to do? >> So it's a site obstruction. So they have to responsible to have communication with the homeowner to address this. >> We're in charge of shrubs too, right? So our budget though it 23 00:07:33.280 --> 00:07:52.240 >> doesn't it is the owner. So where it sits on the property, it's kind of it's really next to a telephone pole. It's kind of off of our kind of zone where we would manage, but it's more of a kind of site obstruction, which is why 24 00:07:52.240 --> 00:08:08.240 it's encountered before >> 267 way of thought tree. It is actually aluminum pushing. I don't know if you recently. Yeah, I visited her very 25 00:08:08.240 --> 00:08:53.760 close. She had spoken to the school and she wanted me then It is. It is okay. >> 2617 3 Greenwood Road. Um, this is 26 00:08:53.760 --> 00:09:10.240 behind the property, Green Acre Space. I'm not sure how involved or if we want to get involved with this or should we get involved? It's off the property. Really not. There's some dead wood in the trees, but it's a woods. Yeah. So, I went back there and I'm 27 00:09:10.240 --> 00:09:27.279 pretty familiar with just kind of the area in general. Um, since there's to me there seems like nothing like pressing on at least like per property line. We'll put this on the worksheet. Just it's just one of those things we're just going to kind of have to keep an eye on. >> Okay. 28 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:58.240 Do you want me to turn down? >> Nobody wants to touch it. >> We can just hear the >> recording. We're hearing the we can hear. >> Okay. >> Chatter from >> Did you Dave, did you talk to the I did not. No. So, have you has anyone 29 00:09:58.240 --> 00:10:13.839 spoke to you on the phone? >> Yes. So, so I have so this is something that we did like some work back there like probably a decade plus ago. Um so I I did just mentioned that you know we would just kind of keep an eye on it for her because there was nothing terribly 30 00:10:13.839 --> 00:10:31.160 pressing. Um and I don't really want to like get too involved in the woods in the way if it was close and you know could cause a property line issue. Absolutely. All in favor for that. But with this one, we're just trying to keep an eye on it. 31 00:10:31.279 --> 00:10:49.040 >> 2618 20 cap replaceing by servo that does need to be replaced. Put that on the list. >> Yes, thank you. And we'll talk a little bit more about this uh in the section as well. >> Okay. 2619 the community garden. There 32 00:10:49.040 --> 00:11:12.160 is two beach trees at the path, the wood chip path that have a lot of deadwood in them. They should be safely clean. Um, they're both 24 36 in 2620 10 Diana Road. Um, a honey locust tree over the street. Quite a bit of deadwood that should be pruned. It's a 33 00:11:12.160 --> 00:11:31.920 12 to 24 inch tree. >> 24 36 12 >> Well, it's a 24. Sorry. 2621 16 Trobridge. Um, if I'm not mistaken, this is Moscy's property. >> Yeah. So, I I want to talk about this 34 00:11:31.920 --> 00:11:49.360 just a tiny bit more. So, I heard a little bit back and forth about this and then saw the memo come out today. Uh, so this is on Trobridge. If you're coming up Trow Bridge from Granite, this is the last property on the left hand side all the way at the top. Um, 35 00:11:49.360 --> 00:12:04.560 that chunk of woods there, I would say more than 95% of it is all paripony. I didn't notice anything in here that would really be of concern. I don't know which exact trees that they're trying 36 00:12:04.560 --> 00:12:19.600 to, you know, bring to our attention because there's a tiny little triangle that's kind of the burrow's property, but the majority and even the back of this homeowner's property is actually in paran. look at our tax records the way 37 00:12:19.600 --> 00:12:34.959 the dotted line comes up the uh the side there. So, we could just kind of keep an eye uh >> and someone talked to the property owner to find out which they were >> this literally just came through this afternoon. So, she spoke to the zoning 38 00:12:34.959 --> 00:12:52.680 officer more than that. I'm not really terribly sure, but I can >> maybe some pictures that little triangle in my opinion is not federal property. That is part of the law. 39 00:12:53.600 --> 00:13:29.519 >> Okay. That just triangle shows you. >> Okay. The memo says she checked with it. So what Frank, I'm asking, so what should we do next? source that tells us when something's 40 00:13:29.519 --> 00:14:05.839 open. >> Well, I think what you do is ask it might be easier to find. point talk to the homeowner and find out that you might do this for no reason. >> I don't think the homeowner I think passed away 41 00:14:05.839 --> 00:14:21.920 >> because there's a lot of drove by there's a lot of >> it's Yeah, it's very difficult to tell on that lot where the lot ends. >> Yeah. >> And where the other lots pick up unless there's markers up there. >> It's really I I went up there as well >> and looked at it. 42 00:14:21.920 --> 00:15:00.880 >> There's a little trick and there's no waste. years ago, they put them on the property. That doesn't always Yeah, I'm gonna I need to find out a little bit more about this. I don't It's 43 00:15:00.880 --> 00:15:18.800 very unclear kind of up there. >> Yeah, but you still can't tell. You can't tell who's >> I drove by and I saw a tree that was moving towards the house, but I didn't get out. Yeah, this little I just said to worksheet this just this this is going 44 00:15:18.800 --> 00:15:39.279 to need a little bitty dig. I think >> just to understand kind of where everything is. >> Okay, >> you just got new taxes. >> Okay, 45 00:15:39.279 --> 00:16:01.519 >> maybe the this would be good for sort of we can have pictures to send us which trees you're talking about. >> I guess it was an email. So you didn't talk to >> that's all happened. >> Yeah. 46 00:16:01.519 --> 00:16:15.519 >> Okay. So more to come on that next one. So it's um two items it to to action from the 2619 and from the 2620 uh for a total this evening of 1740. Do 47 00:16:15.519 --> 00:16:41.600 I have a motion to move forers report? >> Second favor. Thank you. Great. Moving towards uh old business. Uh so the first thing we had was Arbor Day. So um just thank you to everyone 48 00:16:41.600 --> 00:16:57.920 for being there and thank you for the Arbor Day uh committee. Uh I thought that tree was fantastic. A lot bigger than I thought we were going to get. So that's that's great. And I I really think that moving forward, this is the type of our birthday program we really need to have for the kids instead of 49 00:16:57.920 --> 00:17:26.480 giving saplings and things will grow and this and that. Having them there and involved with some of them actually being able to the dirt and mulch I think was a big hit. So >> happy day school 50 00:17:26.480 --> 00:17:45.600 teachers and also the police police department as well. >> Yes. >> Town effort for sure. >> Yes. >> Okay. Moving forward. The next item is the review of the working document. Um 51 00:17:45.600 --> 00:18:00.559 like I said in my email to Karen, uh this will not be voted upon this evening. I want a few months of getting feedback. Uh whether you want to give me feedback this evening or email it to me and I could layer it in as I continue to 52 00:18:00.559 --> 00:18:22.559 work on uh this document. >> I have comments, but I don't need to. I mean, I'm happy if we're not going to vote tonight, I can give them to you. We can I mean, but if you want my comments in public, I'm happy to make them, too. Whatever you'd like. >> Yeah. >> Sure. Okay. So, just a few uh little 53 00:18:22.559 --> 00:18:39.760 things. Um or maybe not. Some of them are too little. Sorry. I'm trying to say that to be nice, I guess. So one Mike is I don't think that anyone at DW is licensed to do inspections. So, uh, this I think in terms of the priority like Dave has 54 00:18:39.760 --> 00:18:57.919 Greenwood, whoever contractor is, whoever it says here, the contractor has to do the inspections because I think the only certification at least that I'm aware of that John has is just like the basic training certification. >> Okay. >> Authority. 55 00:18:57.919 --> 00:19:12.559 >> Yeah. >> So, I think that's just I don't know that inspections is meant to be certified in Mike wrote the document. What do you mean by that? >> No. So, a lot of the times what what I try to do is obviously for budget 56 00:19:12.559 --> 00:19:31.440 conscientiousness here. I try to obviously have the road department do whatever they can. So, that's why it's written as that. But I will find out exactly what type of certifications he does have and that could just be a correction. >> Well, most of the time for what we what 57 00:19:31.440 --> 00:19:47.760 we do anyway is you know, it's after we kind of discuss everything, it goes to them. They don't really do >> much like on they do do ad hoc work as they see if they see dead wood and stuff and from a pruning standpoint or from 58 00:19:47.760 --> 00:20:03.840 any specific te something in them. But for the most part, the inspection does go through first. I >> mean, not if it's routine pruning, Marian, but if someone calls in and says, "I'm worried about something, you know, there's 59 00:20:03.840 --> 00:20:17.760 Yeah. >> Then that really has to be determination that's made by someone qualifies. We can't for legal reasons. We can't be making that determination. Oh, no. We think it's okay. >> Yeah. No, no, no. When I when I think when you go through too, it's not like 60 00:20:17.760 --> 00:20:33.919 they're making the decisions. They're they'reing questions like we know they come up and stuff. So maybe there's a way to make it. So it's not like a >> inspection. Maybe that's not the right word to use there. Okay. 61 00:20:33.919 --> 00:20:48.960 >> Yeah. I mean, if they're just going out to look at the issue because we might not be able to get there and they're driving around and they're going to report back >> like as a first glance. >> Yeah. >> Then I mean that's different. >> But if it's something that someone is, 62 00:20:48.960 --> 00:21:08.720 you know, isn't routine and it's hazardous, that's a different sort of legal threshold, right? Mhm. >> Usually, at least the res occasionally, but most of them is they're worried about something falling, 63 00:21:08.720 --> 00:21:26.320 >> right? >> Um, it's very minor, but u just in the pruning standards, it says no tree topping permitted. >> I I mean, I don't really care if the stain stays in there, but I don't think we really need that, do we? We would be doing the topping. We would 64 00:21:26.320 --> 00:21:54.480 never do that. >> No, I don't. >> Dave would never top the tree, would he? >> No. I mean, unless >> under removal criteria number five, >> construction impacts. So, I was just a little bit um 65 00:21:54.480 --> 00:22:10.480 I wasn't quite sure exactly what you meant by this. So it says um trees failing to meet minimum protection retention thresholds for approved plans. >> So does this mean if the contractor like damages a tree that's supposed to be protected during the site their site 66 00:22:10.480 --> 00:22:26.720 excavation? Is that >> So it's a blended thing. Um, if you recall when they did paving on Glen Brook and a tree had to be removed, it kind This is what this kind of falls into with the blend. If if they damage a tree while they're doing any type of 67 00:22:26.720 --> 00:22:41.840 work >> or if for some reason the construction crew deems that a tree needs to be removed, that's what this is uh in reference to. >> So, this would be a town contracted constructor, not a private constru. 68 00:22:41.840 --> 00:22:58.880 >> Yeah. No, this would be related specifically to the burrow, >> right? Okay. All right. I think that needs to be flagged in there then because I wasn't sure and I was saying, "Well, shouldn't this be there?" You know, they >> No, if your own private contractor messes a tree up, we should be for that 69 00:22:58.880 --> 00:23:19.200 now. I figured I just didn't understand, >> but I could address >> I think we should think a little bit about the sidewalk issues and heaving. I understand that there's a point at which a tree may need to be removed. Um, but I 70 00:23:19.200 --> 00:23:34.960 think we just want to clarify. I didn't have time to do the research or find out how we might clarify that, right? But what I don't want is this is written down for someone to come in and point out it and say I want because of the sidewalks because obviously the 71 00:23:34.960 --> 00:23:50.400 matters have sh what proactive steps have taken to try and >> Yeah, I could put that in as like a last resort. I mean ideally you know to correct the curb or to you know shape down the sidewalk or however we would have to approach. 72 00:23:50.400 --> 00:24:05.840 >> Yeah. There's a lot of things removing the tree. >> So just if this you know to the extent I don't know what the role of this document is but to the extent it's public I just don't want someone say hey it says >> I can fix the work. 73 00:24:05.840 --> 00:24:21.279 >> Yeah. I mean this I don't mean to just I'm being able to be critical because you did a nice job putting this together. So actually that's fine. >> Um so then on this other one the tree work with operational workflow it says um 74 00:24:21.279 --> 00:24:36.240 again it says step two is inspection conducted by DPW. So maybe we could just clarify that because I think this is partly what confused me because then underneath that it says step three is to assign risk classification and I wasn't sure if it was DPW or a qualified 75 00:24:36.240 --> 00:24:53.120 representative doing that. Okay, >> I think that here we need to and this kind of goes um down to my next comment which is under prioritization >> which is I think you know when I looked at this more carefully 76 00:24:53.120 --> 00:25:09.679 this prioritization here I wasn't clear on like what's being prioritized in this prior prioritization list because it seems like what's being prioritized is the mode of how the issues being communicated to us, right? Like does it 77 00:25:09.679 --> 00:25:26.480 come through the memo? Does it come through DPW? >> But I would but that didn't quite uh make sense to me because it seemed like we should prior like prioritize work by how hazardous it is, right? So like if I'm a resident and I I'm upset about a 78 00:25:26.480 --> 00:25:43.360 little twig over my my driveway and Maryanne finds like a leaning hazardous tree then it would seem like clearly we would prioritize a leaning hazardous tree over the right. So I wasn't sure what are we like what's being prioritized in this prioritization of 79 00:25:43.360 --> 00:26:02.240 what >> well so I mean the recommendation would be large right because it would be I've talked about before which is trying to think about the way in which we could have some sort of you know target risk matrix uh the what 80 00:26:02.240 --> 00:26:18.000 you say from or the ISA the tracks matrix or something the target the ISA ISA target matrix for trees where they can say like what's the likelihood it's going to fall what's the target you don't have to do it this way I've suggested that before 81 00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:33.360 but I think that at least to me it isn't clear what we're prioring And since I'm someone who's advocated for us doing this, I just want to say that I don't think this quite at least from what I do. >> Okay. >> I'd be happy to work with you, Mike, if 82 00:26:33.360 --> 00:26:49.039 you want my help to try and figure out a way that, you know, we can work it so it meets everyone's needs. >> Sure. >> Yeah. I'll look into this a little bit further. >> And then the last uh comment is on the page for planting policy. Um, I'd like 83 00:26:49.039 --> 00:27:05.600 to see us flesh this out a little bit more to develop some guidelines. Like I know that a lot of towns have uh like sample contracts almost like they that they issue to um contractors when they're hiring them for trees that 84 00:27:05.600 --> 00:27:23.120 talk about sort of what's an acceptable what's acceptable and what isn't. especially because we've had some problems with contractors in the past um you know not meeting those sorts of those standards. >> Um so for example you know what depth they should be at what sort of condition 85 00:27:23.120 --> 00:27:43.840 just to make sure that we're don't seem picky about it but we just want to make sure that we're not spending money that's appreciate that. Yeah, >> I know it's kind of a lot. That's why 86 00:27:43.840 --> 00:28:00.080 it's perfectly fine to go through it carefully though, you know. >> No, that's that's why we're, you know, working through this and that's why it's not something that's going to be decided tonight. I figured this would take a few months some back and forth between everyone just to get something uh set in stone here. >> Okay. I sorry, I have one more just 87 00:28:00.080 --> 00:28:16.480 comment underneath. So, in terms of the planning priorities, I'd like to see us try and think about prioritizing zones where we're losing numbers, right? So, we have a little bit more of a targeted approach to where we're planting based on where we lost. 88 00:28:16.480 --> 00:28:31.440 So, just want to throw that in there. there's a way that we could >> that >> because to me it's you know there's certain neighborhoods that are older and as I think Rose said one time the trees are 50 60 years old and a lot of the trees are starting more the trees are 89 00:28:31.440 --> 00:28:47.679 starting to go and I think that might you know to get our stock back there and get things growing again might be a priority over some of the other neighborhoods where there's already a lot younger trees but that's something to discuss but I just wanted to throw it out there. Sure. 90 00:28:47.679 --> 00:29:34.919 Thanks so much. Perfect. >> The issue with the big trees, people are a little bit nervous. So they're nervous about the other four years. So 91 00:29:37.840 --> 00:29:55.760 we can discuss that later. suggested here and that is under removal criteria. I call it number seven and this is tree has been repeatedly cut back by 92 00:29:55.760 --> 00:30:23.039 central power and light clearance crew rendering it on a track. I point out that we have done this in our last we did the Unfortunately, >> yeah, I mean even you know they 93 00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:40.559 they just come by they just literally split a be in the middle and say okay good enough and move forward. >> J is a half. >> So uh You know, I'm going to push back on you a little bit frank and say I would, you 94 00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:57.360 know, aesthetics are important. The trees also have other benefits. Water, groundwater recharge, shading the pavement, shaving people that are alive. I don't like how the trees look any better than you. And I certainly think that moving forward, we should be aware of those revised printing policies that 95 00:30:57.360 --> 00:31:14.880 instead of putting a hole in the tree, have cut it in a new gap. But I would say that um I would be nervous about cutting a otherwise healthy tree down just because of its aesthetic appearance given the amount that could happen. 96 00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:39.640 I said repeatedly and I know as Dave I mean I agree with your aesthetics there that I don't think they look good either but they do have other benefits besides just aesthetics. So we we need to balance um >> you know 97 00:31:39.919 --> 00:32:00.480 >> just my opinion and your opinion. So just wanted to get that out there. Okay, moving forward to uh the next item in old business grants. >> Great. So, this is a mixed bag tonight. So, uh I'll start off first with the 98 00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:15.760 trees for schools grant. So, the good news is that I had a very nice conversation with Superintendent Mayor and he was on board for the program. The bad news is I spoke with the person from the sustainability institute at the college of New Jersey which inst which 99 00:32:15.760 --> 00:32:32.720 administers the program and the New Jersey D decided not to fund a motorcycle. Um it was fairly complicated as to why not but it had to do with something with regional u greenhouse gases. Uh she was hopeful uh that grant will become 100 00:32:32.720 --> 00:32:48.640 available again in 2027. They said they'll um they're going to make a big splash about it when money becomes available. So, they were quite disappointed by that decision. Um, as are we obviously because it was a non-matching grant and I think it could have been something that we really could 101 00:32:48.640 --> 00:33:04.640 have benefited from. On the flip side, we did talk about the William J. Porter grant. So, as a reminder, we're going to talk about that today. Whether we wanted to move forward with that or not, we have applied for it a couple of times. We haven't gotten it yet. The deadline 102 00:33:04.640 --> 00:33:21.200 is August. We wrote the grant ourselves. We had um which you know take a once over if you make very notable changes to any of it. The good news on that is that because there's a huge educational component to that as well. I talked to superintendent and asked him if he could help us 103 00:33:21.200 --> 00:33:36.399 brainstorm with some of the educational component of that grant and he was very it's a mixed bag in terms of everything. today. I wish I had better news, but um um the good news is that we have a great partnership going forward with the uh 104 00:33:36.399 --> 00:33:52.799 superintendent of schools on our grants. >> What is the value of this grant? >> 2500 Morristown. We won it two years ago, maybe three years ago now. You know, again, it's the same old thing. We're not an urban community, so we're kind of 105 00:33:52.799 --> 00:34:07.840 up against that. We don't get any extra points because of all that. But what I'm going to try to get this year, which they haven't been forthcoming with it, I would love to see some of the grant winners um submissions >> and see if I can get those so we can 106 00:34:07.840 --> 00:34:26.560 just see what it is. Is there anything we're missing in terms of when we're writing the grant just to see? But um it's a very straightforward grant. I can't imagine we're missing too much of anything, but we'll see if I can get my hands on that. >> Thanks for having those conversations. 107 00:34:26.560 --> 00:34:40.879 disappointing about the trees for school. >> It is that would >> it was a decent amount of money that was awarded >> to the communities in in Morris County. So hopefully maybe 2027 will be 108 00:34:40.879 --> 00:34:56.720 >> okay. And then uh someone came into you today and they were discussing this. >> Yeah. So we decided we would talk about the the grant today. Is there any reason not to move forward with the uh Porter grant? 109 00:34:56.720 --> 00:35:11.280 Any other objections to it? >> No. Are you going to show us the application of what the project application like the project like the completed >> completed application? >> Oh, wait. I >> Yeah, because last time when you did it, remember you had like three options and 110 00:35:11.280 --> 00:35:29.920 you asked us to make that. >> Yes. >> Hopefully I will come up with three. I didn't mean to make that a requirement >> because there is such a burden on the schools because we're basically saying oh and the school is going to do this so 111 00:35:29.920 --> 00:35:46.760 I want to get their buy in ahead of time just >> yeah absolutely >> as well. So yeah, >> perfect. So it'll it'll you know it'll take us a little bit of time to get we'll start working. >> Great. 112 00:35:48.000 --> 00:36:05.839 >> Well, just so my update is just uh once Kelly is sworn in, we're going to set up a meeting with Kelly and Mike and we're gonna figure out the financial part of this grant and then hopefully we will get it done relatively soon. >> Figure that part out first. 113 00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:23.760 business. >> Okay. Is there any anything else for whole business or we go to new business? >> Oh, did you write an article for the police walk or how did that work? >> Yes, it was uh submitted um I could get everyone the copy of what was submitted. 114 00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:39.760 It was kind of a blend of what was there, notes from Rob, notes from Maryanne, a nice blend of all three of us and that was submitted. So, I really hope that that kind of just gets people aware of what the shade tree does and hopefully uh adds a nice little boost to 115 00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:57.599 our planting list that we have going. So, >> good. See what happens though. >> Okay. Go ahead, Karen. >> Okay. So, we're coming in and they're discussing the tree at M. I believe it's a sort of a red maple or 116 00:36:57.599 --> 00:37:15.359 red oak. And to be honest with you, at the Mars is on school property. >> Okay. >> But according to this gentleman, he said that possibly hearing about it and the tree dead and instead what really caused 117 00:37:15.359 --> 00:37:36.160 the tree to die was the salt that was put on the road >> and Okay. And it went up and supposedly there are certain trees that die because of the salt. Who was this person? 118 00:37:36.160 --> 00:37:58.079 >> Um, it was Mr. Level Smith. >> So, this was Mountain High School >> and a Brett Maple. >> He's a red maple. >> Oh, and that little chunk of dirt when you pull in. But he said really what he's trying to say is when 119 00:37:58.079 --> 00:38:13.760 the shade trees trees they should be mindful >> of this salt >> because you know it could kill some trees >> salt's an issue there's no doubt about it >> you know so I suppose there must be species that >> but it's it's hard to say especially one 120 00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:31.079 year one season or not >> it's a competitive slow process they might they might solve that if it's right where the pop off area is they may heavily salted the kids are all out of the car right there. Yeah. So it may get more 121 00:38:31.599 --> 00:38:53.520 >> my guess and what we're talking about is this is that kind of like circle plot like right when people turn into the school >> so we we'll take I'll take a look at this. >> Well I mean I think the school 122 00:38:53.520 --> 00:39:10.560 Well, he they know it's dead. They know what I'm saying. So, just brought it to And then like I will just say that uh you know I come from New York and Breezy Point with Sandy Breezy Point and Rockway Beach the water came up. Okay. 123 00:39:10.560 --> 00:39:26.880 One time the salt water from the ocean came up and you had to see all the hedges and everything that just they have died you know be a twig here. So >> he just wanted us to be remember you 124 00:39:26.880 --> 00:39:57.680 know when we're picking trees it would be >> okay. No that's great. Thanks for bringing that. We'll we'll take a look into that as well. We don't have to worry about that. >> Okay. And then as for new business, 125 00:39:57.680 --> 00:40:13.440 >> I just had one brief item that I wanted us to think about. I don't think it's something we've done before, at least not on my time on the commission, but My kids have playing softball and I've been over community park more and I noticed there's a lot of poison ivy vines on some of the trees over there. 126 00:40:13.440 --> 00:40:30.240 Now there's a lot of woods over there. So I'm not saying we uh address every poison ivy vine in the whole uh forest over there. But there's some trees that are you know prominent that are around the the pond and some other spots that have large poison ivy vines on them. And 127 00:40:30.240 --> 00:40:45.280 it would be a shame if we lost some of those trees to the poison ivy vines. So, I wanted to ask Dave, you know, what his thoughts were on I know sometimes I've seen where they cut them, you know, they cut they cut I know sometimes they put like I 128 00:40:45.280 --> 00:41:01.280 don't know it's you know something uh >> you can treat it with like a gar and then cut like a section or you just cut a section of it out >> this way it dries it'll dry a die off the tree so the vine doesn't choke it out >> right and so then I didn't know if this 129 00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:26.640 was something that EPW could do Or if we flag the trees, if we went tie ribbons on them or not, >> but just stayed open about other >> They got the ground poison, but they need the vines, you know. And this is >> got to get 130 00:41:26.640 --> 00:41:42.400 >> Yeah, because especially like to Rob's point by the batting cage up on the back side of pretty much every field. >> Um, is there a spray treatment that you do, Dave? Or >> it's a problem depending where it's growing on. So, you got to be careful 131 00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:58.240 what you're spraying. >> Yeah, that's right. >> Usually, it's almost >> it's similar to a round product. So, you kind of have to be very selective. So that's why you chop it out. I think if you have something that's still 132 00:41:58.240 --> 00:42:17.599 you can manually cut it out. >> So where like if if we were to even if we were to spend some time where do you cut it like >> the base take a chunk out so it doesn't grow back just cut one thing it'll go together. 133 00:42:17.599 --> 00:42:33.680 You have you have to cut it and then take a chunk out. But I went chemicals over there. >> Oh, yeah. No, no. I was just >> Okay. Yeah. I will um let me look at that. Let me talk to to John. See when they're doing >> Yeah. I just didn't know. I mean, I 134 00:42:33.680 --> 00:42:48.960 don't think we ever done it before. >> No, I don't think so. But I would say in those high traffic areas like this is something we should probably look into a little bit more than we have. I'm wondering if one of the gardening uh one of the gardening groups would be 135 00:42:48.960 --> 00:43:08.240 interested especially know something if what we could do >> and I'll go up there with dish gloves on and do it. We don't mind but we just want to make sure we're doing it the right way. Right. 136 00:43:08.240 --> 00:43:30.880 >> Yeah. Um, let's >> Yeah, we'll get a Tyvex suit. >> Is that true? >> Within two hours. >> Within two hours. I heard two hours after exposure. >> There's this product. It's called the Tech. It's like an oil. It's actually put on before and after. You put on the 137 00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:47.200 floor. You go and wash it off and reapply it. Actually works really well to help reduce I'm saying reduce. go to see what I did because I've never had it and I don't want to discover if I'm highly allergic to it, not allergic to it. >> Take two garbage bags and put them on your hands and go in. 138 00:43:47.200 --> 00:44:04.079 >> That's what I do. >> Okay. >> Yeah. We'll um >> let's find some time. We can just map it out and then from there >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Thanks for I just There's some beautiful old trees there. I hate 139 00:44:04.079 --> 00:44:21.040 to see them get lost at Poison Ivy. And also the kids are right there. >> No, that's a good point. >> All right. Thank you. >> That's all I have. >> You want me to talk about this or you want to talk about >> Oh, these ones. Oh yeah on this agenda. 140 00:44:21.040 --> 00:44:38.800 Sure. You want to talk about >> So um this kind of ties back to one of the memos that we had from memo uh 2618 which was Kathleen Place. This was one of the trees that we planted in the 141 00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:55.680 fall. Um so this tree Rob sent me over a few trees. Um, we actually pretty much they're looking at the same ones that we're kind of keeping an eye on. Um, I spoke with Dave about it and I also did just call Serbo just to kind of check on it because these trees are under 142 00:44:55.680 --> 00:45:12.160 warranty. Both of them had pretty much the same kind of advisement because of the weird swings in weather that we've had so far this year, plus the drought to give everything a little bit longer than we probably normally would have. So, we're going to 143 00:45:12.160 --> 00:45:27.040 kind of just continue to keep an eye on these for the next, let's say, month. And then prior to the June meeting, I could redefine the list. If nothing's bloomed or come into greenery, we could uh bring that up to them. Um, but to 144 00:45:27.040 --> 00:45:44.319 point Kathleen probably will not green, I don't believe, >> especially since it didn't lose its full leaves. I was going to say it's probably not going to be >> that great on but there's a few others that you know to the point like the servo said things are behind and the weather's been so ridiculous and we hit 145 00:45:44.319 --> 00:45:59.760 90 degrees a few days and we're back to freezing temperatures. So >> these plants don't know what to do. They don't know if they're coming or going. So >> there was one I was watching and I thought it was dead and then it did push out buds up the top. So yeah, I know that >> and wait to see this week these warmer temperatures 146 00:45:59.760 --> 00:46:16.640 are going to pop in. So yeah, if you guys I we have plenty of time with the warranty, correct? >> Correct. >> Okay. >> Should we be watering them, Dave? Like right now because I mean it's it's still pretty dry, right? So it's not going to help them if they're stressed from lack of water. >> Correct. So anything that was planted last fall. 147 00:46:16.640 --> 00:46:42.800 >> So maybe that's something that I know they put a lot of greens in. Make sure as well. >> Okay. >> Okay. I have I have one other question about diseases over there. So those new trees, are they susceptible to that? Do 148 00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:59.839 we need to do anything in order to make sure that they don't catch that? >> I mean, they are susceptible, right? >> Yeah. I mean, yeah, for a while as well. Um I mean I think for a new plant being healthy I think just kind of 149 00:46:59.839 --> 00:47:18.480 monitor start seeing them. Did you spray or you were going to spray? >> I think we did spray last year. >> Last year. >> Yeah. >> But it has to be before the putting it out now. Right now they're starting to emerge when you want to treat. 150 00:47:18.480 --> 00:47:33.200 >> Is there an easy way to like when you look at how possibly got that? You can really look at last you'll see like last year's before it was treated or last year's growth you see the needles that were infected but right now you're not going to be able to tell it's 151 00:47:33.200 --> 00:47:49.119 that makes sense. So, um, you know, to Ross's point, preventive would be ideal. Yes. Does the budget warrant that? I don't know. >> We'd have to do that every year going forward until all the other trees and meats were gone. 152 00:47:49.119 --> 00:48:07.280 >> Correct. >> Like said, we did the treatment last year, which is definitely helpful, but this year we don't do it. >> And and the treatments like every year, >> every year. And it's the weather has a lot of factors to it. So cooler wet weather spreads a lot more 153 00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:25.079 rapidly compared to dry weather. You can predict the weather. Uh it's it is it's disease is very hard to >> it's something really prevent. >> Thanks. Thank you. 154 00:48:27.599 --> 00:48:43.680 >> Um I did want to bring one thing further to new business. Frank, you want to touch? >> Yeah, there's I got a call from a text from Leon Hall who used to be the engineer and I guess he's still doing some work for the 155 00:48:43.680 --> 00:48:59.760 barrel. The Styles Avenue has got a grant state grant was delayed at least a year because the water company in there now I guess they're moving 156 00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:27.520 forward. So this was the text basically saying a tree we're going to lose a shade tree at 18 because state regulations close to the corner. No, no. If it's 157 00:49:27.520 --> 00:49:44.640 what I see, I think I understand it. I'm going to meet him tomorrow. It's It's a big oak. >> What's that? >> Uh, okay. Of course, unfortunately, just like a number of the other oaks on that street, it's cut off to one side. But 158 00:49:44.640 --> 00:50:00.400 the worst thing is it's raising the sidewalk. >> Okay. And and obviously the town has fixed the sidewalk a number of times already there, but so I guess that's it. I'll find out more 159 00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:25.440 tomorrow, but you can expect that. >> I'll send a recap out >> and this is just >> because they're fixing the sidewalk and >> Oh, yeah. That's part of I assume that is part of the contract. That's the way it used to always be. 160 00:50:25.440 --> 00:51:01.359 >> Okay. Is the tree healthy? >> I said to myself, I hate to tell. Oh, Rob's going to like this. Why are we cutting down a a $50,000 tree for a $600 sidewalk repair? >> It's a state regul whatever it is. It's 161 00:51:01.359 --> 00:51:16.640 a state regulation here. Now, I don't know whether it's just a sidewalk or whatever. >> Okay. I know. I know you're not trying to know, but I don't know. >> Is there any way around this, you know, then figure it out? >> That's why I guess 162 00:51:16.640 --> 00:51:34.920 >> I know you care about it if you can. I don't see there's no way around it. >> If it's a state, then maybe there is. >> So that's it. You don't follow it. Is it? >> No, I don't think there's 163 00:51:35.440 --> 00:52:04.160 right now. They have done that already because be contin I got news if they're going to do it though. That's the first thing they're going to do before they pay and all this other stuff and probably replace different spots 164 00:52:04.160 --> 00:52:36.800 like let me know what you said. >> Yeah. I'll write the whole recap. I want to know what the for >> I don't have anything else for new business. Does anyone else have anything else? 165 00:52:36.800 --> 00:52:51.680 Seeing as there is nothing else, I ask for an adjournment motion for this meeting. >> So move. >> Second. Second. And hopefully everybody will get it free. >> Absolutely. Yes. >> Thank you everyone. 166 00:52:51.680 --> 00:52:55.000 >> Thanks Mike.