we may have to do a survey. Um, this is would just apply to the two new signs. Um, as far as the uh existing signs, um, you know, still still no response from DOT on this. So,
>> just Okay. >> Well, I mean, there's a few other things with that report from the DOT. There needs to be a traffic plan that needs to be developed. There also has to be a traffic study that needs to be done. as well
>> in regards to adding the signs or something else. >> Hill view touches their road that they're asking for >> would the same apply to Dayton even though it's been in the ordinance for
way older than my age. >> You know what? I'm not going to go down that road, but probably get [clears throat] some signs up there. That's So that was so that's the question that I have at the DT right [clears throat]
because they um my interpretation of it is that those um those signs were technically grandfathered in at the time that when the ordinance was written for those um for those roads. So any new processes in my opinion shouldn't apply
to uh those those existing signs. So I think um I have out the dot right now. Um, and we're going to, you know, I'll get I'll give an update once I have one on it. Um, but we'll we'll try to press them as as best
we can to get get an update. >> Yeah. I I mean, I know I you all have what I sense. I I just find it odd that there's an ordinance to restrict these heavy vehicles. There's no sign there to
enforce that to the drivers. and now we are possibly going to be forcing drivers to put that weight limit onto the road. Like it just does not make sense to me. So I'm hoping to dive into this and maybe I'll get some answers. But um
>> so I I I don't want to speak for uh Mr. Der, but he he will also come to the planning board and I'm sure he >> Yeah, I know I reached out to him as well, so I'll see if he um and then I know that a few [clears throat] people
at the um League of New Municipalities lunchon. I love social media. So, I did see that um Mr. Bea was there as well. I was just curious if he I heard through the grapevine and social media post that there was mention of uh the McDonald
application being voted on the way that it was. I mean, that kind of annoys me as a resident who feels like he was kind of mocking that. So, I was just curious. You don't have to answer, but if anyone felt
or what was said, if if there's any reaction to him bringing that up in that type of forum, >> I think it was a surprise everybody. >> Okay, that was it. Um, thank you. >> Thank you.
>> Hi, Joan 31 Canfield. Excuse my voice. [clears throat] >> I just a really quick thing on the signage again. Um, I know the DOT has to approve the signs that touch a state road. Campfield Place doesn't touch a state road. We don't have a sign. Is
that something that we can work on? >> Yeah, that's >> I know there's some probably some other ones that are on the list. >> There's I forget the total number of roads, but I think the roads actually go back to I want to say the 1950s or something. >> Yeah, 1959. >> Right. There you go. >> Um, yeah. Yeah, and they they were
added, but none of those roads in my research, none of those roads actually have a sign on, right? So, and that that was my what I was referencing earlier was that um you know, I'm asking DOT if anything is needed from them. Um we'll see what their response is. It may
be nothing, >> right? Because those sign those roads don't touch a state, >> right? Understood. Understood. Um I just want to >> I know you >> I just want to I just want to do Yeah. I just want to dot my eyes cross my tees, make sure that you know we're doing and then we'll at some point we'll make a
decision as to um what we're going to do, what when we're going to put those signs. >> Okay, great. I just want to make sure there was a distinction between the state. >> Understood. Thank you. >> See no one else moving forward to introduction of those ordinances.
>> Thanks, Mr. Mayor. Ordinance sorry uh I council member Houston introduce the following ordinance and read the same by title and move that it be passed on first reading. Ordinance number 12-2025 an ordinance providing for the partial amendment supplementation and repeal of
chapter 27 section 27-4 in the revised ordinances of the burrow of Morris Plains New Jersey 1972. >> Is there a second? >> Second. My roll call, please. >> Mr.
>> Yes. >> Mr. Cortez. >> Yes. >> Mr. Broom. >> Yes. >> Mr. Houston. >> Mr. Yes. >> Mr. Yes. >> M. >> Yes. >> I, Council Member Houston, offer the following resolution. Whereas the above ordinance was introduced and read by
title at this meeting on December 4, 2025, and passed on in the first reading. Now, therefore, be it resolved that at a meeting to be held on December 18th, 25 at 7:30 p.m. prevailing time at the municipal building in the said burrow. This council will further consider for second reading and final
passage the said ordinance. It be further resolved that the clerk of this burrow be and she is hereby directed to publish and mail the proper notice. Therefore, including the ordinance, post the ordinance on the bulletin board in the municipal building and make copies available to members of the general public. Is there a second?
>> Second. >> Second by Nancy. All in favor? Opposed um Mr. Do we uh >> I just want to play something here. >> Prior to Ordinance 13-2025
first reading, there are a few amendments I'd like to place in the record. Uh, Chapter 2, Article 8, Section 2-46 is hereby amended, supplemented, and revised to reflect that fees for chapter 16-3
subsections B4 are as follows. For non-resident, industrial, commercial, or retail establishments, sponsored teams fee per season for one use only is $400. For usage up to three weeks is $700. for
usage between four and six weeks, $900, and season use, which is more than six weeks, is $1,500. Furthermore, chapter 2, article 8, section 2-46 of the burough code is hereby amended, supplement, and revised to reflect the
fee in chapter 16-8 subsection D regarding pool fees for non-residents is $525 for a family before May 8th and $550 for a family after May. Furthermore, chapter 2, article 8,
section 2-46 of the burough code is hereby amended, supplemented, and revised to reflect that there is a new fee in appendix A-17, subsection M2, which is a weekly vendor
permit fee in the amount of $15. Lastly, chapter 2, article 8, section 2-46 of the burough code is hereby amended, supplemented, and revised to reflect that there's a new fee under chapter 11, fire prevention with the new fee being
set forth in chapter 11-18 for a certificate of habitability for a new tenency in the amount of $50. With those amendments, council member Houston may now introduce 13-25. Thank you, Mr. I, Council Member
Houston, introduce the following ordinance to read the scene by title and move that it be passed on first reading. Ordinance number 13-2025, an ordinance providing for the partial amendment supplementation repeal of certain fees set forth in the fee schedule of the Burough of Mars Plains,
Chapter 2, Section 2-46 in the revised ordinances of the Bureau of Morris Plains, New Jersey, 1972. >> Is there a second? Second by Mike Roll, please. >> Mr. >> Yes. >> Mr. B. >> Yes.
>> Mr. Houston. >> Yes. >> Mr. >> Yes. >> Mr. >> Yes. >> M. >> Yes. [clears throat] >> I, Council Member Houston, offer the following resolution. Whereas the above ordinance was introduced and read by title at this meeting on December 4th, 2025, and passed on the first reading.
Now therefore, be it resolved that other meetings be held on December 18th, 2025 at 7:30 p.m. prevailing time at the municipal building in the said burrow. This council will further consider for second reading and final passage the said ordinance. And be it further resolved that the that the clerk of this
burrow be and she is hereby directed to publish and mail the proper notice. Therefore, including the ordinance, post the ordinance on the bulletin board in the municipal building and to make copies available to members of the general public. Is there a second? >> Second.
>> All in favor? I opposed. Abstain. The eyes have it. Moving on to ordinances on second reading. Mr. Houston. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I council member Houston read by the ordinance entitled ordinance number
10-2025. An ordinance concerning salaries and longevity pay which ordinance was introduced and passed on first reading at a meeting held on November 13, 2025. I announce the meeting is open for a public hearing on the ordinance.
Seeing no one public hear. I council member Houston state that the above ordinance as read by title on second reading at this meeting be adopted and finally passed. Is there a second? Second by Tyler. Roll please.
>> Mr. Cortez. >> Yes. >> Mr. Grim. >> Yes. >> Mr. Houston. >> Yes. >> Mr. Ivy. >> Yes. >> Mr. Pier. >> Yes. >> Miss. Yes. I declare the ordinance adopted and finally passed. Do we want to do that resolution or do
that under unfinished business? >> Unfinished business. [clears throat] Right. Can I make a comment? Can you put the mic over? >> There's there's no charge in applying for this and I understand the council's
concern that there could be costs that we don't have and a certain level of not comfortable. But my my suggestion is if we were to approve it and me in the meantime would go forward because the funds you know get used up um use the
next month or two to get a hard number of what projected number what these engineering costs plans may be um so that if we do get approved we'll have we'll know what those costs are and we accept or don't accept the grant. you
don't have to accept the grant and again there's no cost out of our pocket to apply for it but there could be cost out of I respect that from the council because it is an unknown and it is taxpayers money and um I think we still have a shot to just let it ride now do
our homework um if we find out that it cost you know500 it's one thing we find out that it cost $200,000 not worth it um there's time to do that so my recommend would be you guys are okay with it too
just there are no cost with the intent to get hard numbers which I think get some rough numbers you know comfortable with should we get the uh the money >> so maybe I misunderstood that was not my understanding of what Steve said my
understanding my understanding of what Steve said was that the the application the actual process for us to apply is going to be an out-ofpocket cost >> before >> before four >> because we have to do plans and there's all sorts of things we have to do and
and as we discussed here Mr. Walsh said but we have no idea what those costs are >> and and then in that case we should get those costs and then table until we know what those costs are. >> There's also a project budget that's supposed to be developed which would
extend through the life of the project including all the maintenance fees. So I think we should be able to see that because we would be signing up for that over this 5year period. >> What's the deadline for the grant? the money. Okay. Okay. So, so it's a it's a rolling >> sensitive. >> It's a rolling grant. So, we run the
risk of not getting it at all. But I think it's better for us to understand what our costs are up front because there is there is a strong chance because Mr. Ivy said earlier that, you know, the chance of us getting it is is low. So, there is a strong chance that whatever costs that we put out, we just
absorb those, right? We're never we're not going to get them back. Um, and there are some costs that if we do get approved for the grant, we're not going to get back anyway, right? So, I would like to understand what those costs are so that we can at least be responsible when we're when we're applying for this. So, I agree with Mr. Ivy's suggestion
about getting those getting those costs first and then you and then um you know putting this on you can't put it through without without doing correct. >> There's one more piece I'd like us to consider and that is that we don't have currently a grant administrator. So,
reporting that has to happen on a periodic basis to be in uh compliance with the grant award. You know, you have to submit certain reports and data and all that stuff. A lot of times it ends up falling on our CFO and uh you know, that's not
really a good solution for for this situation. It's an intense kind of reporting that's got to go on for years after. So, um if we can figure out how who's going to handle that grant administration, there's a cost associated with that also. >> So, I think that that really could be
done in house somehow. And we did I mean which is probably the most labor that we've ever done was taken care of hire somebody or whatever. >> Yeah. I'm not suggesting hire someone.
I'm just suggesting >> consultants are actually So we can get >> but again that would be an upfront cost and then >> no that would be that would be hired after >> oh okay afterward just asking Mr. You
said we did it in house during >> what who did it? >> Sure. Okay. I guess it seems like to >> have no resolutions, no new business. We
do have vouchers. >> I move that the checklist dated December 4th, 2025 in the amount of $2,633,95061 be approved. Is there a second? Seconded by all in favor.
>> We do need another executive session. resolution number 2025 resolved by the bur council on December 202 which the public shall be to discuss matters in JSA2
section >> E8 All in favor? I have it. Thank you everybody for coming out. Stay warm in the cold weather.