You said that you believe I'm not. >> No. >> Yeah. No, I thought I thought I heard that. So I just want to make it clear that I never quit my job doing it and I never
talked about that. >> So this was a conversation with us that you're eligible for retirement. That's what you said. But you didn't say you were going to retire. >> Well, I never said I never said I was >> Yeah. We had a conversation. You said you
>> Well, I said I mentioned anyway. I never said that. But the 30,000 just to be clear that's going in there is because department needs help, not so much for when
>> absolutely need help immediately. the planning went up 7500 inspector um it went down overall the two items uh by 10,000 police department went up 2,000 fire department went up 1,000
DPW and up 15,000 building and grounds went down 10,000 w down 3500 um contributions went up 5,000 and then Um, I also added the sanitation
sewers. Um, they're not negotiating. That line went up 193600. And then I gave everyone questions any other changes or is that questions, comments. Sorry,
>> sorry. Uh, page 22. Yes. Yes. Yes. and and maybe it doesn't matter because it all zeros out, but the line so computers and servers
um the appropriation for 2025 is 15350 but then I think it was we said that 14,000 that was supposed to go on the software. >> Yes. >> Okay. Yes. >> Right. But I don't see that reflected on
>> Okay. That's a old number though. >> Y don't charged to, >> right? You won't have that for 2026. Okay. No, I understand that. But we're not we don't need to
because he was charged to that line even though it was we discussed it was incorrect that's >> okay got it all right car that we talked about the car was up
to that was the one that whatever it was that facilities improve that. I know you talk about those things. I
can talk to Bill O'C. I know what's come up on it. >> Oh, it's on capital. I thought that wasn't >> Oh, okay. >> No, no, the old one because it's not it's not a new What department?
>> Uh, let's see. Department of Public Works for that modified that number,000 >> 15,000. Right. should be page 24.
>> It's page 24. So, >> oh no, I'm sorry. 24, >> right? This will be page 35. Go from 32 to 43. So I guess the question right but we we
did increase it from 113400 to 1284 went up by 15,000 right >> and then did we Again in my notes I had that we reduced leaf and brush pickup by 13,000. I think maybe we put that in a
different >> again same same page number. Uh >> I don't know. >> Okay. >> Yes. >> Stays at 48,000. >> Okay.
I think there was a question right. So that's Right. So let's see that inside. >> Yeah. Couldn't it be outside >> only working on >> I was on my budget workshop this week
>> you know calculation anything that can get pushed out the garbage insurance. >> All that stuff. >> I can I can check. Okay. I think webinar on budget was They said it's outside. So I don't know
when it were within our parameters on both inside and okay. I haven't got anything. >> I haven't seen anything but look
>> sometimes they change they change the document formula but I downloaded in January I went back to look at it for >> they didn't change
>> so I had to send it to them and then they had to fix it. Mr. Mayor, you may really answer this. Page 43 Morris Township sewer fee will >> increased.
Okay. I can tell you that it's increase. This this other Okay. Page 69ations. >> Donations. >> Yeah. No. No. No. Okay.
Well, there's I think during the last meeting so the number at the last meeting,000 plus I think was 10,000 5,000. >> Yeah. So that's I think that's already in there.
It was not in there. >> Yeah. I I do not. So the next set of sheets that I anticipated on sheet four
anticipated last year we approved 3,294,000 this year proposing 3,225,000. Our current fund balance as of the end of
1231 is 4 million and this will bring us to balance of 1 million >> sorry what did you say was the remainder of 1,465 Okay, next
revenue. So knowing that we can't anticipate more than what we realized in 2025 alcohol beverages we realize 12,650 we're going to anticipate the same amount. Under other licensing we realize
16,85,000 licensing under fees and permits we realized 111,29 was $110,000 and permits municipal court we realized $17,571 propose
for this budget interest in cost on taxes we realized 48,143 proposed for 1,000% last year for interest on investments and deposits.
Last year we realized 54,800 and proposed 480,000 questions on page four. >> Every year it goes down. I looked online about the state aid and we don't have the certificate yet wasn't
available online yet but they said that they were going to hold it again >> so we'll see what happens. So in my understand perspective the use of the surplus,9%
of it >> we're using proposing 3,225,000. >> Okay. So that's >> which leaves us at 100,000 where we were this time last year. It's all about replenishing >> and what you can generate
this year. >> So last year we generated because we do a 95% versus some towns go up to their flux rate. Our collection rate is kind of 90.40. We went up to 99.40.
going back into so we do keep it at the 95% unfortunate do that does generate more anticipate that next year even if that goes down it's fine but
we're in a very good position No, but we've maintained 600. We maintain 600. So, we're looking forward this year construction fees. >> So, page uh for sheet six. Um last year I anticipated 27,000. We realized 600.
Um so anticipate 325,000 from what I hear from the construction official. They've been very busy. They told us in that video they told us that 10 years ago they did. They said it again on the record. >> Start over
there's no deadline. That's the fourth time they've been in at least. I don't see anything on the horizon. So these are our special items. These have offations. So communities program currently we have 36,000.
substance abuse alliance. Um then we have a resolution saying that for that $4,000 they have reduced it. It was um was the third aspect of that was a one time
Not the supplemental >> reserve for alcohol education and rehabilitation fund. Right now we have currently $1,190 $1,000. >> Oh, that's I'm sorry. >> This is for
that reserve for body armor replacement. So at the end of year we have but we receive $1,991 in so the chief has budget storm water assistance grant
currently we have a balance of $17,4 That was the reserved spoke to the police department about it. We haven't heard anything. So, I'll have to do a this year program that also expires >> this year, >> right?
>> So that's changed. >> That was in 2025. So you still have a balance that we need to utilize because it's in 2025. It's a charge. We have October.
>> Yeah. So that has changed now include We've already gone out >> of heaven. >> Tree of heaven. trees that feed those >> sh the anticipated like for example clean anticipated
number is higher than realized cash from last year >> because we have reserve,000. >> Okay. >> So that's >> and these are we have >> understood. Okay, that makes sense. Okay, thank you. So she
these are items of revenue special items. We have the first one is the uniform fire safety act. So I get a letter from the code enforcement and we know how much it is for anticipate that's 21,5 that's the only
cable television franchise fees in 2026 we received 89,1749 that's going down everybody um hotel tax revenue transerve. for prevention fees. Currently, uh we have money in reserve and capital
budget. So bringing 200,000 in 2026 last year,000 I know that offset the additional reserve for debt service. Currently we have in capital 117,390
and anticipate 115,000 board education we have a contract with them anticipating 900 New Jersey recycling reimbursement. So right now we have a balance in our
trust account of 26,000 and anticipated 15,000 question that covers curbside and rotation. >> It's they give us certain amount of money.
>> It's not actually 11 basically the sheets that we spoke about that we summarized here. The only extra time here. There's two numbers.
So, the annual financial season that I do that allow me to determine what the max is that we can anticipate. So, they're saying the max is 220,000. Um, I don't believe we're going to have that Halloween for
1,000. So the max that we're going to get is 219,500. And the other line here is the amount to be raised by taxes. So I also included
this sheet. It's the reserve for the taxes and the rates and it's calculations and how those numbers utilizing the 95% that we've been doing every year.
Estimating 2% increase for the school and 2% increase for the county. We don't know what those numbers are just yet. Um, and then brings our revenues in. That's where we come up with that 14 million. So, we're pretty comfortable putting
>> the local. Any questions on our videos? The other two sheets that I also included is our calculations. So we have our 2010 levy cap sheet.
That's called levy cap. So you can see the exclusions. So there's prior exclusions and then current exclusions. They allow us to put inable and then they also allow us to utilize in a cap bank if we
didn't in this case in fact we generated additional cap of 1.1 million to be used the next Yes, those are the assessments. warehouses last year.
38 million last year. The second sheet is sheet 3D and this is the 1977 appropriations. Every year the division um provides a percentage that we can increase our
inside capriations. Um I've seen it as low as.5%. Um this year it's 2%. But they allow us to pass ordinance that gives us the ability to raise that 3 and 12%. By passing that ordinance, what it does is not only give
us the ability to raise 2 and a half% but anything above that 2% is banked. So if there's another year that we will need to exceed the amount that we're supposed to
keep it under tax. They don't allow outside. They don't allow certain things when we need it on the inside. We have the ability to utilize campaign questions on the goal. Next item discusses the possible capital
projects. I know I've asked about this before and the engineer said he has a schedule and I think he mentioned like every 10 years. Now we're back to normal. It's not
all that public service. I don't think there's going to be any Yeah. >> So like Styles Avenue that that's getting paid, >> but that was part of last year's budget.
So um probably >> but that was but that was no that was that was >> that was it had to go out for this later got Okay. We had to have an agreement with D
to extend that grant. >> So that was we had that have that one by a certain time. >> Correct. But that was prior. So effectively it's prepaid. >> The work well the point is the work's going to get done. It's already
>> right. It's funded already. So we don't have to worry about another >> and some of these have also been we have grants for some of these roads. >> Um these roads sun valley is a grant and
the one grant that we did get is um >> north but we pushed north until next year because gigantic size. >> That's not the
number one. Yeah, that's not part of >> Oh, good. Great. Thank you for this probably >> for the roads. Yeah, last year.
>> No. All right. DPW. >> I I think Yeah, I got the boss. um just the amount of times that they've had to go out in the last three weeks. I think the rent was a price for
How old is that? to me. This is I mean it's hard for six weeks. to just do all the bases and that's not counten I talked to the
Just to be clear, this is one truck combo jet vacuum. Yeah. Forward. service. >> Those kind of things are here, right? It's available to us. You mean available to ask for service?
>> They all help. We help >> e somebody supporting the schedule clean. >> How many do we know how many emergency calls we have this year? >> Do we know how many we have this year? probably
>> four. >> We've had four trouble spot trying >> those guys out for a while. So they were out there until 6:30. Yeah, >> I understand that. I'm just trying to
weigh the cost. So, it's we've had roughly six half dozen for the year. Um, every time we've had an emergency, we've been able to call support and they respond, but they might what you were saying is
that's not reliable, right? somebody else. >> There were four or five guys. Two of our guys standing there. >> I was going to say thank you, but
>> anybody else want further information or I mean, I would love to know if there's out there, but we don't know. The fire department is asking for the purchase of 10 pages
to add to what they have in circulation and provide new members and these are not these are the actual pages. >> Yes, I have a question about everything is done on the phone. I don't know.
Everybody has the phone. It's the call. It's the play out of the call, who's going, what trucks, what time, where it is, map. My only thought is that if this service
goes down, pages might be back. I don't know that for sure. Just >> just guessing because >> I mean look I like you said Tyler's not here so I'm taking a stab at >> Yeah. But I'm think
>> that's radio frequency ultra high frequency. >> No. So this works on cell. So this is >> this goes down. That's kind of my point. >> Possibly.
>> Yeah. So yeah, back up. just >> that's why you know >> to your point that's true don't work >> cell phones don't work they have 10 pages and those pages I know that FCC
changes frequencies um especially the government frequencies change I have no idea how old their current pagers are probably old since everybody went to cell phones so these might be replace any existing analog pers to work on the current
just a Good. We're at the budget meeting and a question came up about one of the capital items. I'll put you on speaker. Hold on. >> So, we were looking at the uh the pages and the mayor had a question about pagers. >> Yeah. So, chief just explain the reason
for the pages anymore just so we're all clear. But everybody has the phone app, right? And then T or Bill Yeah, Bill Houston had mentioned that maybe the service goes down that
the pages are like back up that >> or is there another issues with the And when it doesn't push out the test, >> it will actually have one now or no?
Okay. >> All right. So, that's the main reason. Okay. >> Okay. >> Fair enough. >> Thank you. Thanks. Thanks, Steve. >> Thank you. You're welcome.
The second item he has on here upgrade for truck one >> currents will be discontinu Public safety probably has to cons. So yeah, I seem to remember that there was either a grant or something that was
provided to get by >> right and then what's that? >> And I think we got it. And then we also think there was also a cost was either a cost or purchase to clean the existing turnout here. I seem
to remember that we bought clean, >> right? That's right. I don't know where we >> next. >> Let's see if we can maybe there's another we can use that.
tried several several times. Third is so it's a building of 456 full barn with two garage doors for parking of fire.
storage. This building will have lighting, heat and bathroom facilities also be used for fire and provide a piece of apparatus. So I don't know this is capital I don't see
for it. just upgraded all the pumps in the electric. Not one time that I can remember anything. I think that a whole lot So, can you read the description again
building 40 with two garage doors for parking fire apparatus and police and storage? This building will have lighting, heat and bathroom facilities. Also be used for fire training and provide a piece of
apparatus on the other side of the >> So, they designated I think it's >> just the barn that don't have the mini bumper that's coming in. So currently my understanding is there's
not enough fire department. We didn't need to replace it. We should have bought a half a million dollar new one. I can't keep every piece of equipment here that we So is that is that the plan? They're
replacing the existing one with a new one. That was the engine. We replace their engine, right? We replace the ladder, the new one. Replace the utility with a new one with upgraded pump system. That's the
utility that we have there. >> And there's a And if there was no reason to get rid of the other one, I don't know why we would Oh, I'm not saying there's no reason to. Obviously, we already proved that. I think the chief made a good argument for why it was needed, but um I thought there was another
piece of apparatus that they were going out for. I guess what I'm getting at is that I thought that there were um we have four bays and thought building up there. My understand
how much put that down. >> Yeah. So, as far as the the building here, I'd want to know more about it because I think that there's a couple questions about what what it is, where it's going
to go, but also share the question that 15,000 actually seems low. >> I'm not saying project. >> Yeah, I'm not saying remove it. I'm just saying you're in discussions with doing an addition here.
Yeah, >> to me. That one is out. It's not happening. >> Next, >> just another try for a training building up there. parking lot. >> Yeah, they had a training building.
>> But the training that I did when I was there was never smoke conditions. It was really >> Yeah. But the training houses that we used to were just dark houses that you would crawl through. It's like a dark jungle gym to figure out how to do it.
They never lit it up with smoke. But you'd have to ask the chief about that, but I don't think that's what they did. But >> okay, interesting. >> Anyway, there's a lot of things. >> So, the next item is prevention. He's looking for new vehicle.
um with our fire prevention bureau now in it second year for the fulltime fire marshal. We are requesting to upgrade the primary vehicle. Although the handed down 2015 Dodge Charger has serve
become maxed out with equipment storage for our needs. The trunk and rear seat are completely filled with tools and inspection. The front passenger seat holds books and computer. Moving the fire marshall over to a truck with
better fit for daytoday use. The 2015 Dodge Charger is currently 112,000 miles with experiencing some issues including remaining. This part is no longer available from Dodge and it is
mentioned received the charger from the police department in August. Although the total purchase and build is not a small amount, this vehicle should last almost 12 or more years. So if we take the overall total purchase and
divide it over 12 years, it cost 85, I'm sorry, 8,500 per year. Please keep in mind that this purchase was denied last year. >> This purchase was denied last year. >> So you have to make a purchase in one
year. What was the vehicle cost? Just the cost. >> Just the vehicle cost 52,547 and then to outfit it,27. >> So here's here's my here's my thoughts. We brought this up. They brought this up
last year. I think it was closer to half the cost right of last year and I thought we were going to look for something in the 304 $40,000 range to me but it's an inspe
I think the fire inspector's job is inspecting not But I do understand a house here whatever is that need to
respond there. I mean, our police cars that are out there every day,000 inspector inspire marshal, if you listen to the radio traffic, he's sometimes the first one to respond. So I do think it is I get that
is justified as a first responder. My understanding back is when we hired him as an inspector, not as a paid fire. I get it and I understand what I get that part 100%.
I'm not against what it is. He's a fire marshal, right? So he's he's a >> but he's not he's not Yes, he is an inspector, but he's also >> So a lot of our road guys.
So again, his job as he was hired in fire. But I know that's my perception. I understand. I don't think it's as black and white as that, right? I don't think he can just like switch. I think he's he's as a first responder, he's resp he he
responds. >> So, but he's he's an referral for a specific job. That's it. Right. That's it. I understand that. But he's also So, I'm not saying that that necessarily justifies the $100,000
cost. I just don't I understand that he goes out a lot of times. He's the first one to respond because a lot of times he's already on the road doing a fire inspection job. So, when he shows up to have a vehicle
that has that's out to respond correctly. I think makes sense. Is it $100,000? You said last year the ask was was half of that. I don't know what the difference in cost is. I don't know. Was he requesting a truck last year and or a
car last year? This year a truck. I don't know. Um >> I think last year last year was >> last year was an explorer. >> We had that explorer. Okay. But it was at 50 grand for the vehicle
and then just for the vehicle costed 60,000 I think it was in fully fully kitted fully. radios, all that whatever that >> expensive fire as we seeens
blah blah blah that we have it. $40,000 Ford in the back and that's his vehicle to have another first responder vehicle. >> So we have two chief vehicles now.
>> Three chief vehicles. >> Well, have you heard Mark's truck though? He started it up the other day. The thing that's fairly But they never turned those down. They were supposed
to go. They never did. They kind >> options, right? Is there any reason the suburban county has the tacos? You know, >> I mean our suburbanire I mean this current >> this current one was a 2015 she just
said it's 112,000 miles on you can't get parts >> Oh yeah so he said two of Ford Explorers >> this was last year >> this was last year the first one was $51,500 Another one was $54,000.
>> What was that? >> Just the vehicle cost. >> Just the vehicle. >> Does he give an estimate for how much it would get it out? >> Company for $28,27. They also attach emergency also striping
and they're proposing 28,000. >> So what are the two vehicles? Is one an interceptor? >> So the one is a four police interceptor. >> That was last
but we don't need if they're going on a chase. >> What's this year's vehicle? But is that we don't need that. Is that based on what we know who who we know manufactures these types of vehicles? Police interceptor might be the only
manufacturer at the interceptor package tires. again. Is there a >> fire responder? >> Responder probably is different than
inter wear and tear on a first responder vehicle than you understand. Your truck isn't going to go out and do first responder. They have other fire departments have regular pickup trucks. has regular pickup trucks. They all have regular regular
>> and they may they may more regularly replace them because regular trucks is >> I think he needs a reliable vehicle for sure and it needs to be official because he's doing
I can't >> Yeah, I mean that car. >> Well, last year we So it was the same deal last year because he still he had that 2015 charger last year and last year we denied we'll call it 80,000 right for him to
replace it. So this year it's Um eventually at some point I'm imagining that vehicle is going to break down and won't be able to use it at all. >> Yeah, I said the new vehicle is justified for sure,
>> but not not my opinion. You need a smaller Broncoish mid Bronco with the lights. >> It sounds like you guys are more knowledgeable about emergency responding vehicles than I am. So you guys
I I'm I'm going to trust that our fire department and our police department come to us after having done the research and understand exactly what vehicle they need. It's up to us to improve it. I I'm not going to question personally. I'm not going to question the vehicle they need and think that
they we can replace it with some offtheshelf, you know, standard for Bronco. That's not my want to replace it. So, last year you did say that it wasn't to replace the charger. addition to >> that one's got to go.
>> The charger's going to go. >> No, last year that's what this year >> he didn't say. >> I mean, I know he's I know he didn't specifically say replace, but given the stats that he that he said 2015 Charger 112,000 miles, there's no parts
available. I mean, I know he didn't specifically say it, but I'm sure if we call him, he would say yes. At this time, you do not want to eliminate the 2015. >> But you didn't say that this year. >> Okay. Again, I'm not
I'm not going to question their their choice in vehicles because they know it better than I do. But it's some of those lights out of that car, right? So there 60,000 make that work.
>> I don't know if that's based on last year and I'm sure up this year. But I agree this is too much. >> You know, you just interp I It sounds like you know more about
these vehicles than I do. Again, I'm going based on what they said last year. It's 52,000 or sorry, 50 4,000 on the high end just for the vehicle. Um, and 52,000 on the high end just for the vehicle. So I think if we
only did 60,000 that was barely get the vehicle and maybe a few things $46,000 >> police and one of the other vehicles here uh was 47,000 I'm sorry it was 52,000 47
so you know I We we outright denied it last year. I don't think I can't deny it this year. Um council, >> right? So, if the council doesn't feel that $100,000 is worth it, then you
know, I would say, you know, what was the cost last year would have been what? 78 >> 79 82,002,300. Again, I can't see $82,000.
We just uped a brand new police car. $60,000 but the needs are different Jason like the needs of a police interceptor and a fire >> it's a responsctor for that and if you can get to the fire because he's out there working for us
we're happy to have He's not going to have he's not going to have the utility truck or whatever, >> right? We know that for sure. Look, I I've said my piece on this. I I I don't think that we should deny that,
right? I I don't I don't think that um I would trust what they've done in front of us. So, I'm in favor of it, but it's up to the two of you. >> I'm not saying get everybody $60,000. I would really like to know what the delta is between 28k.
So chop 20,000. Sure. There's a hand. What do we get for we have >> already guess? I could surmise that it's because
Mr. Houston takes his chief vehicle home. Webster takes his chief vehicle. Kevino takes his chief vehicle home. Right. So that way when a call comes in, they don't need be easy. Mark be easier. Bob would be nearly impossible to come all the way
here and go back up, right? So, but all of them, they're first on scene. Usually, the fire marshall was second on scene because he's got a vehicle or he's already out doing inspection and the two of them the response time for that. This is not me advocating necessarily for the fire department, but seconds
when fires happen, right? So, for them to be able to respond, yes, they take all the vehicles home and they have all their gear in the vehicles. So, that They had to go in. It's all there. So >> to me that should be in the fire department. It's a first responder vehicle
to have all the equipment necessary start. This was asked as a question. >> Okay. Again, we have to remember what his position is. Inspector, I understand that he goes on
and responds, but he's not a first responder. That's not his job. Whatever he has in that car, >> everybody package. >> I I am I am deferring to the
professionals that they know what equipment they need. You can't say defending it, but deferring that they are giving us what they need. Just like when the police come to us and they say we need 65,000 whatever it is for this vehicle or we're about to go over body warn cameras, right? I am not going to
second guess that it's $48,000 for body cameras. That's comes from the chief of police. That is his job. It's what he does. Fire marshal. Um I get it. I understand your point, Jason, but he is he can't take his fire inspector and put
his fire marshal hat on and have a whole separate set of gear because he is a person that responds to fires. So I but I do maybe agree with Nancy to say that maybe it should come out of the fire budget and not necessarily fire prevention budget. So maybe we change
that but again I'm not I'm not questioning the the cost of entangling. Well, if if if we can't justify an inspector that's in this department, he needs a vehicle. He needs an
inspector vehicle. Fire department is need >> I would be curious to see how many fire inspectors are not also firefighters. >> Yeah, but that doesn't necessarily in other towns.
Look at some of the other vehicles. Look at some of the other towns in you got the Wranglers. You got four tiny trail blazers. Those are fire inspector vehicles. >> Those are regular zoning inspector.
That's what they're using. >> So the fire inspectors are using regular Listen, with the intercept package, I can just tell you have to have special tires. You have to have special. They're not running on the highway at 100 miles hour
chasing criminal running down 25 mph streets. >> My understanding is the interceptor package is hard to mix and match. You can't pick the tires, the engine. It's like you get it as a package. Get the package that package
$300. Discount tires are one tire. Tires are $300 tires are cheap. But anyway, let's go. >> There you go. Um, look, I I said might be signed. If you all, it's up to you
guys. If you don't want to approve it, then I think we should put this in the question. I can't see. That's a necessity. We did get a but
Yeah, just for the record number should be 1, two, three, four. This should be five. >> It's okay. >> That's all right. I'm sure it was word that did it weirdly. >> Yeah. Um, so number five, all the police stuff. I agree with it across the board.
I don't have any questions about The 512 >> he's all seated. for the tennis came over 27 20 >> 20. >> Yeah. 207.
>> Somebody never did it. Are they still >> Is that still on their bucket list though? >> I haven't heard anything. How did I last shut down? >> Well, besides me, I don't want the most
important $5,000 that has been asked to doublesided. Chris, you said not asked for this. Yeah. I agree. Does that make it more expensive or less expensive?
>> Does it make it more expensive? >> Yeah. But what's the cost? >> 47. I mean, yeah, we're debating. >> Well, they don't want >> They don't want it. They didn't even say
>> was welcome with open arms two years ago,000. Yeah. >> So, the same two pieces of property that were in here last year. Harley back It's on the hill.
that owns that piece of property. >> But he still We already have some property there. Yeah, there are already anyway. So there's a bunch of adjoining parcels >> and there's also dedicated
dedicated building. I don't know how >> so it's kind of like okay >> I seem to remember looking at tax. I remember that was in there. That's the 160,000.
You're saying >> that's just the purpose for that. >> Purpose is possibly answer the question. So if you wanted to make that retention,
would you be taking all the trees out? So if you buy this open Yeah. No, there's a name for The other thing Everybody, I think we should start off with >> nothing changed. Yeah. No,
I forgot about >> share cost share because we're in negotiation. But nothing has changed since the last So, >> the other thing that came that was on
last year was the AD reporting meeting. last year. >> So, what were the um I think last year last year that was 65,0007 67 2000. Um,
I know Nancy, you've been doing some research on that. >> Just trying to find companies, but now I'm kind of trying to start over. I talked to the attorney about >> said, you know, suggested trying to go through state
>> state approved >> companies or one of the co-ops. I got the list of co-ops. We can researching what companies are insot >> contract. So I think that there was a proposal for how this should be laid out, right? So I
guess the question is are we all on board of that proposal? There was supposed to transpire since >> in terms of what the layout was going to
be those issues. >> Find out what is the standard request that we're going to ask for the vendors. So that vendor is not good. That's great. Let's go to different vendors with outlining exactly what we're looking for.
>> Yeah. I think that the scope of work doesn't change, right? So the narrative of what needs to be done um or narrative what we're requesting to be done um would be the same all that. I think
memory serves I think you said that our department had a problem or something. >> Yeah. But you said that. Yeah. He had experience. >> Okay. So we have before a company look at the
space and give us a bid, we should just see if they have experience with them. >> I mean ask what would the committee need to kind of already have the configuration. >> I think it's more than just a person.
>> Well, I think the steps have already been established. So, what you're saying Yeah, it's a narrative that goes through in detail what the request that hasn't changed. >> So you
want to make some questions or recommendations about that. So what's the process? >> Yeah, we can uh we can meet give you a hard time with that like I normally would.
>> Well, let's just be fair. back. >> Really? Yeah. Because I think it's important. You haven't done anything. We upgraded the tennis. >> Oh, we're doing the turf. That's an adult thing. The adults use the term. >> Yeah. Let's see if it
be my daughter. Yeah. Anything else? I thought the goal was specific. >> What's going down here? heard police cars trying to save a I don't think I would jump on that yet.
I will tell you what if you get Federer to come in Jackson, >> you want to do a tennis? >> You want to do You want to do a tennis? >> I'm not the tennis player. >> You look like I'm a tennis player. >> You're one of the star tennis players in the world. >> If you get No.
>> No. That was that was John Macken. >> No, Roger Federer is one of the best tennis players. If you get a signed quote from him that says it's cost 50 grand, >> then the the fire prevention official isn't
building the car. He's just telling him what what he wants because he's the professional. So if you get a different I'm just saying before we talk about the wall. What about the courts? Do we need to put money here?
>> That to me is much more. >> That's great. Are they going to fix the drainage? >> Did you measure because it's a problem. The water makes them crack and then you know >> I'll tell you on the record.
Oh, >> that's it. circle back. >> Yeah, I think we wanted to hear from >> Oh, Tyler and you know,000body
have All those things. >> Yeah, I know one too. >> Are you actually first responders? Is the fire marshalist inspector? >> He's a He is a firefighter. He is a firefighter
be the only firefighter with >> He's also the only firefighter that does fire inspections. >> We need to provide them with a vehicle. >> So, are we still planning on introducing on Thursday. >> I would think it's generous to get him a
vehicle that costs the same as a police vehicle. If it was 30,000, not an interceptor, not an interceptor, which he has now. >> My vote is 75,000.
>> You don't have a vote. What was that? >> 100,000. >> I don't know what the is actually more expensive. That's overkill. >> I agree with that. 75,000. That's
I didn't You stuttered a little bit. >> 75 wall 75 wall. >> No, >> 60 in a wall. You're getting two two for two for the price. There is no
60 or 75ast. You're not going to he's not going to upgrade this can't get numbers out of the hat, right? >> We're picking numbers out of a hat. Like he's given us actual numbers based on
what it of his vehicle. >> So, I don't want to buy a tire, >> but that's that's a different >> he's not going to get that vehicle that he has written back and for >> But I thought you said it was Oh, no.
You're right. That was last year. >> Yeah. >> What was the 52,000 and the 47,000? >> That was last year. >> It was last year. >> And you also had um the vendor 28
>> I thought last year >> I thought the last year was 51,000 28 >> it was two >> but then I wrote down >> I wrote down two numbers for this year 5257 4757
>> I didn't make that up right >> last We have two quotes for 51.3 the other one for $54,30 right and then we had the the fee the proposed fee for the striking and all
that was 28 almost and you did give me quotes last year >> right that was for last year >> last year this year all I have this sheet >> but I I wrote down 52547 475
that's for the 47,000 is for the >> Yeah, that's this year. >> But there's no quote. >> Oh, >> he didn't give you a quote. >> Going on what we just purchased with that same vehicle sitting outside. >> Sure.
>> I got He didn't give you a quote, but he gave you numbers, which I'm guessing he got from a quote. He just didn't mean prices up >> his expensive,
>> right? >> I'm just You need a cap on the pickup truck. You don't need >> to get the thing that pulls out like Kevin has in his truck. >> So, a lot of these bells and whistles, it's a need and a want.
He needs a new vehicle, but he wants $100,000. It can be done with $60,000. A nice well equipped, well inspector's vehicle that could still be able to
Dodge Charger. That is not a police interceptor, anything. Whatever. That's how it's last legs. You can't get partial fire, right? >> Right. But this one's going to last another what did he say? 12 years. Doesn't matter if it last 20 years or
two years this year. >> Either way, like either way, >> um it it uh again a professional. That's what he suggested. So like you guys have to decide because I'm you guys know
where I sit on this. I think the vehicle he's asking for makes sense probably Wednesday. Well, I'm sending it to our auditor on Monday. So, I'll just change it on Thursday.
Can't do everything once. >> Oh, that's all I have. So on the capital project, >> so we're holding off on historic building. We're holding off. We're adding the fields and we're adding
reporting for00ation because it doesn't exist currently. That's a priority for >> but they won't. We're not taking away anything that doesn't exist. You can't play on two sides.
There it is. >> So, so Anna, my numbers are correct. >> All right. So, so So my vote is to keep the fiber in it is the cost.
>> So I mean in all honesty I think >> I thought you said it's disadvantage. Yeah, they weren't involved. >> That's why it's important. It's really >> I don't want to keep >> Yeah, that's the problem.
>> I don't want I would like to talk to Chris say what do you >> meanable to give you the vehicle >> but 100k is a little >> you have enough space in a >> X vehicle do you need so >> rather than Let's go through the
contract with can you do this and bring it down to my suggestion would be okay show me the one that costs 100,000 >> and then show me a list of other vehicles that don't cost >> exactly that's what I want to do >> work so
Anna needs these numbers like so is that I guess we could call that And then so I guess the question is what if he comes back and says
it's either this or say nothing but are we just accepting whatever heid that's what you get and I think it's helpful to have Manual manual transmission.
>> Come on. >> That's probably that budget number. I'm good with that. Right. So, we're leaving it at 100,000. >> Let's do 60. I'll see if I can go up to We're all saying 60,000
Good job. downstairs. >> Yes. Okay. So, has to do some maths, right? >> I was thinking that we got that last year. I was like, I was waiting for the final what's going to cost me. It's going to change a little bit. Well,
based on our capital that we just discussed, I guess we talk about what we're going to fund and what what's funed here. >> So, the overall change >> with the revenues and appropriations is going to be an increase of 1.58%
for the local portion. 1.5. So what we told >> uh so last so what what's the total tax rate last year saying it's 1.5% over last year Um
well the user friendly budget I should do actually another user friendly budget comes up closer to it would be actually this year the local portion. Yes. So
last year the local was.919 and ours would be.93. I think the user friendly bounc Yeah. >> That's just the appropriation side. So then when you look at the So total budget increase. This is
That's not any question. >> Do we get another sheet too that has all that coveration on it? So the budget this year did not have that. I really love that sheet. I know
>> that's really I think because some of it is redundantly budget that >> you can't recreate. You can make it. >> I have to enter the data into the old one because they have formulas in the
>> spare time. >> Exactly. >> I'll reverse engineer >> but the user friendly budget has similar. I think that's probably Okay. >> Department together
was That's great. >> And I just want to say thank you very much. >> And everything else that you do. Thank you very much for >> That's a deal. I'll take that, too. That's even better.
All right. Is there a motion to Nobody else has anything? >> Second by second by Here we go.