I'd like to call to order the regular meeting of the Mars Township Board of Adjustment for December 8th, 2025. The notices required uh according to the Open Public Meetings Act have been satisfied and a statement certifying same will be executed. Please join me in
the pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Okay.
>> Uh, Santiago, roll call, please. >> Yes, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Goldberg >> here. >> Mr. Chenberg, >> here. >> Miss Simmons >> here. >> Mr. Schustster, >> here. >> Mr. Benois, >> here. >> Mr. Kramer >> here. >> Mr. Wood >> here. >> Mr. Oler >> here.
>> Mr. Voch >> here. And with us tonight is Ryan Kirkpack, my replacement as of January 2026. And I Sonia Santiago here. I'm Miss Polara. >> Thank you. Sorry, Miss Pula. >> How do you spell your last name?
>> A U R 18. >> Okay, welcome aboard. >> Thank you. >> Okay, next matter was going to the resolutions. Our first resolution is not on the agenda, Mr. Oler. So interest >> as you just heard our board secretary
for many many years is retiring at the end of this year. So the board um asked me to prepare this proclamation in her honor. So in honoring our board secretary Sonia Santiago um this is the board's proclamation. Whereas Sonia
Santiago has devoted 24 years of exceptional service to the township of Morris and for more than 21 years has been the guiding force behind the board of adjustment as its secretary. And whereas her dedication, professionalism, and warm spirit have been the
cornerstone of countless meetings, ensuring that every detail was handled with care and precision. And whereas beyond her duty, Sonia Santiago has been a trusted colleague, a a source of wisdom and a friendly face to all who entered the township offices, leaving an
indelible mark on the community she served so faithfully. And whereas her tireless efforts, positive attitude, and commitment to excellence have earned her the admiration and gratitude of board members, staff, and residents alike. And
whereas as she embarks on this exciting new chapter of life, we celebrate not only her remarkable career, but also the kindness, humor, and grace she brought to every day. Now therefore, be it proclaimed that the township of Morris Board of Adjustment on behalf of its
members in the entire community expresses its deepest appreciation to Sonia Santiago for her extraordinary contributions and wishes her joy, health, and endless happiness in retirement. Congratulations. >> Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
I appreciate it. I have to say it has been a pleasure. It has been a pleasure serving the board for this past 20 some 21 years. I just turned 21 years. Okay. But with the township 24 years, okay, and it has been
a pleasure serving the residents of the township of Morris. I have enjoyed every minute of it. I will miss being here every day with the board members with all of you following your attendance and all that kind of stuff. I
will it will be greatly missed. Thank you for all your patience with me, >> your patience with us, >> but it has been a great pleasure in serving the residents of the township of
Mars. Thank you. I'd like to say, Mr. Chairman and to Sonia, I I can't tell you how much I appreciate everything you've done for us. I'm on the board of planning board as well. For the time I've been here, I don't know what it is, five or six years. And uh your professionalism,
you're always there. You're spot on. you remind us of these things whether it's to review a meeting because you were absent or you know you were you can't vote because you weren't there or um or you know just getting the agendas out getting the paperwork out. You've never
missed a date. Um it's been such a pleasure for me personally to work with you. >> I really you know thank you for everything >> and wish you the best in your retirement. >> Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you. >> Okay. The next uh
Okay. The uh next item on the agenda is the um resolution for New Singular Wireless. >> Yes. So this is a um memorializing resolution of the board for the application filed by New Singular
Wireless aka AT&T who applied to the board of adjustment for preliminary and final site plan approval and variance relief to permit the installation of a wireless telecommunications facility on an existing water tank at property known
as 103 Columbia Road. Um that property is in the O40 uh zone. Um, it was presently developed and operated uh and regulated under the athletic training facility use alternative application to the nonresidential overlay district and
for the reasons that are set forth in the resolution that application was conditionally granted. >> Board members, have you had a chance to review the resolution? Any comments, questions? If not, I'll entertain a motion to approve the
resolution. Come on, Mr. Chairman. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Schustster. Miss Santiago, >> Miss Simmons, >> yes. >> Mr. Jackberg, >> yes. >> Mr. Schustster, >> yes.
>> Mr. Benois, >> yes. >> Mr. Kramer, >> yes. >> Mr. Wooder, >> yes. >> So moved. >> Okay, moving on to our public hearings. The first is BA 20-25. Uh, Miss Santiago. Yes, Mr. Chairman.
This is U BA20-25. Jerome Bramley, >> block 9502, lot 22,32 Windmore Drive in the R815 zone for a section C. Applicant proposed the construction of a one-story addition creating a sideyard setback of
7 ft where 25 ft is required and creating a reard setback of 17.7 ft where 35 ft is required. >> Okay. Your names please. >> My name is uh Alex Godhel. I'm an
architect licensed in the state of New Jersey and good. >> Before we get there, could you spell your last name, please? >> Okay. Uh, G O T H E L F as in Frank. >> Okay. And >> evening. I'm Jerome Brumy. B R U M B Y.
And the homeowner. >> Okay. >> Both my wife. But >> would you both please stand and I'll swear you in at the same time. >> Raise your right hand. You solemnly swear that the testimony you'll give to this board will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
>> Okay. Thank you, gentlemen. >> Okay. Could you please give us the uh your background and your qualifications as an architect? >> Uh I'm a licensed architect in the state of New Jersey. >> Uh and I I have standing uh with the
NCAB, the National Council of Architectural Registration Boards as well. I'm a past president of the American Institute of Architects in New Jersey. And um my off my practice in the past uh 15 years has been in Ben, New Jersey. >> Okay. Thank you. We will accept you as
an architect. >> Okay. Who wants to go first? >> Uh I guess I I'm going to be uh presenting or uh fielding questions on behalf of uh my client. So um the the
drawings are not uh on the uh display. So >> the parents plans There we go. >> There we go. Okay. Well, that's a little bit of an eye chart, but um you can walk over there to explain.
Well, >> they can zoom in. >> Yeah, they can zoom in, too. >> Yeah, >> you could use that microphone. >> Okay, I presume uh everybody is familiar with the design from the uh drawings that
were distributed. Um the uh I'm going to basically walk through the design. It's fairly straightforward. It's a relatively small addition and uh I'm going to describe some of the circumstances and some of the design considerations and then uh I'm can turn it over to the board to uh ask any
questions that they may have. So we're we're working with a uh an undersized site uh in in the zone and uh the homeowners have an expanding family and have um uh the need for accommodating uh
in-laws and also homework. um they they have additional responsibilities now that require homework. So the program included the addition of a new bedroom, a new master suite or a primary suite, a bedroom, bathroom and closets and um as
well as a home office. So uh we uh we evaluated uh several parts of the site and uh determined that the most effective uh and efficient uh way to uh fulfill the program requirements was to
extend to in this case uh to the uh left uh side of the property uh as viewed from the street and uh add onto the house in that direction. And um the uh consideration for adding to this side of
the house was completely impractical. When we bring the the next drawing up with the plan, you'll see that in order to gain a bedroom, we'd have to lose a bedroom. Uh it's a common uh conundrum of some of the residential additions that I do. Um, in order to access this
part of the house, you basically have to pass through another bedroom and you bake make an undersized bedroom out of what is a perfectly good bedroom in order to access the area to the other side of the house. So, the most the uh most sensible place for doing the
addition was on this left hand side. Um, we have the uh the bedroom uh facing the street and the bathrooms uh towards the bathrooms and closets toward the towards the back framing uh creating a framing edge for the deck. So, if we could um if
we can go to the next uh drawing which is an uh some of the uh perspect the the lower level plan. They have a family room. This space uh below the bedroom is going to be an office. And then in the
back will be an unconditioned um shed for um for yard maintenance equipment. And uh the rest of the house remains pretty much untouched. So we can go to the next drawing, please. So this is this is the front elevation.
It's a partial elevation. Um this is a a new uh new bay window uh that's going to be facing the street. the massing of the uh of the new addition is smaller and uh a little bit more condensed than the uh
existing um to make it a little uh more understated. And um we have uh clear story windows and regular regular windows. Uh this bay uh this uh architectural feature of a bay is
gabled. It's um got a half-timbering effect and um wooden brackets uh to give it some character, dimension, shadow, and and some charm. Um the back elevation, this would be the overhead uh
door for the uh for the for the shed. Uh and this uh round top window is for the um is for the uh bathroom side elevation. You can see I can't reach it but you can see how the bu the house
steps down from these roof lines step down. So again we're trying to keep the the mass and the scale of this addition uh to a minimum. Okay. So those are the elevations and I would like to go next if we can. I think
it's a separate drawing uh wherever the >> survey >> to go to the survey drawing. >> Give him a moment. Okay. >> Yeah. Uh you know we >> there you go. >> Okay. The survey drawing
another aspect of the selection well if you could zoom out a little bit please. Okay. um of the selection of the left-hand side even though we are uh coming closer to the the property line.
Um uh we have a situation where the adjacent property is very well uh set back from from uh my client's property and um so even with this addition we will have you know a similar
relationship in terms of the um in terms of from a zoning perspective we have a similar relationship to our neighbors uh even with the even with the addition. So, if we could go back uh to the other drawing, I apologize. Uh if we go back to the other drawing and if we can go to
the cover sheet, please. Okay. So, here's our addition. You can see that the actual uh because this is an undersized lot, the actual building envelope is
uh the house exceeds the the actual building envelope quite considerably um already and um so we have an undersized and that's basically a function of it being an undersized lot. So um I don't have anything uh else to add to this.
So, I'll basically open it up to uh questions uh from the board. >> So, is there any screening between the proposed addition and the um house uh to the left at the end of the culde-sac? Are you going to have any screening there
>> there? There are I'll I'll let uh uh Mr. Brumy speak. >> So, if uh if it's helpful, I did bring the neighbor to the left and the neighbor to the right. They're here uh with us. Um and uh the neighbor to the left actually has uh Jules has planted
some trees for screening. Uh and it is it is certainly my intent to ensure that uh that we maintain a good relationship and we have some screening between our our homes. >> And uh the rear you're also seeking a variance for the rear setback. Is that
correct? >> Yes. >> And behind the property is Route 24. >> Yes. >> There's a sound wall. >> Speak to the microphone. There there's a sound wall there, >> right? So, you're not going to bother any neighbor back there? >> No. >> Uh, all right. I don't have any other
questions. Any other board members with questions? >> Any members of the public with questions on this application? Any board professionals questions? >> My name is Jules. >> Excuse me. You need to come to the microphone, please. >> And right now, we're just taking
questions. We'll open up the public for comment in a minute. You have questions or just a comment? I was going to make a statement. >> Okay, we're going to do that in a second. Any other witnesses? No. Now open up to the public for
comments. >> My name is Jules Gadina. I live at 34 Windorth. >> Okay. >> Mr. Gdina, give me one second. Would you raise your right hand, please? Do you solemnly swear that the testimony you will give to this board will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? >> I do. >> And your address again, please?
>> 34 Woodmore Drive. >> Thank you. >> And uh so I live to the left of Jerome's house and there's a lot of space between us. I just put in some uh
green giants because they're deer resistant as I hope everybody knows. So, it's a nice basically hedge. So, whatever building Jerome puts in is not going to interfere
with anything that I have. And I think from what I've seen and from what I know about Jerome and his family, this addition is going to be very helpful to him. So, I definitely approve the addition.
Okay. Any questions? >> Any questions? No question. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Any other members of the public wish to speak? >> Good evening. Uh I'm Sam Tuttle. I'm the neighbor to the right.
>> Tuttle. Would you raise your right hand? Do you solemnly swear that the testimony you'll give to this board will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? >> I do. >> Thank you. >> What's the address? Uh 30 Windmore Drive. >> 30. >> Yeah. >> And I just want to um back up what my
neighbor just said. Um I don't think this will impact either of us in any negative way and I think it'll help their family out a great deal. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Yes, sir. >> Pat Tierney. >> Hey, Mr. Tierney. Do you solemnly swear that the testimony you'll give to this
board will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? >> I do. So, just to support our our neighbors, u listen, we live in a neighborhood that's had a lot of uh new homes built. There's been two in the last couple of years. Um it can only
benefit the neighborhood. The Brumies are a wonderful family. They've made a very positive impact to us. If this will help them stay there, we want them to stay there. Um I support it. Uh, I don't think there's any reason why we wouldn't uh approve the application.
>> Mr. Tierney, what's your address? >> 24 Whitmore Drive. >> Great. Thank you. >> Yeah. All right. Thanks everybody. >> Thank you. >> Oh, Mr. God, I have one more question. Um, I note that the uh building coverage
uh is 15.8 and the required uh allowable is 15. Did it exceed because of the undersized lot? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Thank you. >> That right
>> board members, any questions, comments? >> Any member any other members of the public wish to speak? If not, I'll close the public portion. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Board members, any comments? If not, I'll entertain a motion to approve. >> Let's move that we approve. >> I have a second.
>> I would say, Mr. Brumley, you have very nice neighbors. >> Consider yourself very fortunate. Yeah. Yeah. >> I'll second that. >> Yes. >> Okay. So, I have Mr. Kramer, Mr. Benois. >> Mr. Goldberg. >> Yes.
>> Mr. Trackenberg. >> Yes. >> Miss Simmons. >> Yes. >> Mr. Schustster. >> Yes. >> Mr. Benois. >> Yes. >> Mr. Kramer. >> Yes. >> Mr. Woodford. >> Yes. >> So, move. >> Okay. >> Thank you very much. >> Okay. I will have a resolution for you at the next meeting which is uh the end
of January. >> Can I ask one question? Sure. >> In reviewing this before before I came in today, um I was not um entirely happy with the location of two windows on the front facade and I want them to be
centered as opposed to where they some boards are very particular about that. I we're talking about inches, not >> anyone have an objection to to that doesn't >> doesn't relate to the variances.
I think it can be handled in construction. >> Yeah. Yeah. We're looking more at location of the building. >> Yeah. I've had other boards, you know, anything that changes from what gets approved, >> it has not.
>> No, that's that's handled down the whole >> All right. Thank you. >> Congratulations. >> Thank you. >> Enjoy your retirement. >> Thank you. >> Same here. Next uh application is BA21-25. Uh Miss Santiago.
>> Yes, Mr. Chairman. This is uh application BA2125 Axel and Jacqueline Oers block 8402 lot 110 Barbberry Road in the RA15 zone for section C. Applicant
proposes rebuilding of the existing garage and construction of a second story addition creating a front yard setback on old turnpike road of 24 ft where 50 ft is required and a front yard setback of the existing front porch of
26 ft where 50 ft is required. Applicant will also seek a variance for the expansion of a non-conforming structure. >> Okay, can we get your names please? Jacquelyn Oers
>> and Axel Oers. >> All right. Hey, >> would you both please stand and raise your right hands? Do you solemnly swear that the testimony you'll give to this board will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Thank you.
All right. Who's going to speak first? I'll speak first. Thank you very much. Uh, and good evening, Mr. Chairman and members of the board. Uh my name is Axel Olers. I'm here with my wife Jacqueline. Um we are the owners of 10 Barbar Road
which is located in the convent station section of the township. Um I think we have established that you're all quite familiar, some of you are with the with the area. We have lived there now just shy of eight years and we're a growing family with a three and a half yearear-old daughter. We're here tonight
to respectfully request that the board grant us a front yard setback variance from township ordinance 95-28. Um, and I had given to the secretary, Mrs. Santiago, additional materials as
appendes, which with the respective sequential numbers and they have also been made available to you aside from the drawings. Um, so if we can That was not submitted to the board because I just got it today.
>> Okay. I see. Okay. Yeah. So, I'll walk you through this. Uh, which is Hold on. We're going to mark. So, >> it's a whole package. >> I've numbered the pages. >> Okay. >> There's a clip right there. >> Yeah.
>> All right. So, I'm going to mark this package as one exhibit. The A1 with today's date. Each of the pages are numbered. So, you can just take us through the numbers. Is this the only one we have? >> Yeah, that's ours. >> We brought one copy. >> Oh, it's going to be up there. >> Yes.
>> Okay, perfect. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Okay, you're good. >> All right. So, uh if we can go to the next page, please, which is uh the first one to appendix number one. This is just to orient the board about where we're located. uh and I'm sure you all recall
a recent application in the fall um before this board by our neighbors uh just one block over on the corner of old uh of Shepard Place and Old Turnpike. So we are one block over uh from there uh in uh in Barbberry Road. If we can go to
the next page, this uh shows you the front of our house uh 10 Barbar Road uh with a view a view from Barbberry and it's at the corner of uh of Old Turnpike as you can also see on the indicated map there to to the
right. On the next page uh is uh the view from Old Turnpike Road. gives you a much better impression of the actual footprint of the house, which is in essence an L-shape. Uh where the inside of the L is the one-story garage
structure uh with no usable space above uh tucked tucked inside. Uh on the next page shows you our nice uh backyard with uh natural full screening to the neighbors of the town houses at the north towards
Punch Bowl. Um, and on the next page gives you an impression that the garage isn't nearly large enough uh for comfortable use and it also has no internal access to the house. Um, we also don't have a mudroom currently
entrance area at the house. Um, and that gets us now on the next page to the proposed addition. So, the proposed addition would address uh the garage size itself. It would create a mudroom uh closest to the house
on the left of the garage then and push the garage doors to the right uh towards the backyard and also towards old turnpike road with a then set back of 24 ft which is 8.6 ft less than the current setback.
Um we would be reusing our existing garage doors. So the garage will actually the garage itself the doors themselves will look the same because they are the same. Um, enlarging the garage will allow us to park uh the two cars in the garage and open the garage
doors and create interior access to the house with the small mud room and create usable space above. On the uh next page um gives you just next to each other an impression of how the front of the house remains completely unchanged. uh towards the
right and back of the house uh is where the new addition would extend 8.6 ft further than it is today. And on the next page uh shows you the view from about the center of our backyard uh and how the new structure
would essentially fill in the L-shape of the current house. And the uh the last page um gives you perhaps most importantly that the new structure is not really going to be visible from the neighbors on barberry road to the left of us or across the
street and the townhouse is given out there all screened through the trees. Um so it's it's all well well separated. Um that uh was the presentation I wanted to give you. We are convinced that this addition will not create a negative
impact uh to the neighbors or the town. Um as discussed at a previous meeting, actually our conventation neighborhood consists mostly of houses facing the interior streets and not uh old turnpike road. Um
and uh well, I'd like to uh to thank you, Mr. Chairman, and the board, but not least also uh Mr. Santiago. And I only realized that we are very special applicants in that we are at the very tail end of your many many years of service. So this is actually a great
honor to have experienced this to have worked with you and thank you very much. It >> was a very pleasure working with you guys. >> Thank you. >> And board members any questions? >> Yes, Mr. Chairman. >> Yes. >> So your current garage, it's got a flat
roof. There's nothing. You all don't have access to that right now. >> Yeah, it's it's it looks as if it could be a deck, but it isn't. It's got a railing, but it's a non-usable space. It's actually the trigger point of doing all of this is that this roof uh is
starting to decay. Uh so that's that that was the beginning of wanting to redo the garage. >> And then the purpose for the second um bedroom or the the additional bedroom, what what are your plans for that? Well, a I work from home. We've got elderly
in-laws and we are a growing family. So, uh it's just more usable space for us. Uh and make use out of this otherwise open space L-shaped that is just not usable. >> Thank you.
>> Okay. Any other questions? Any member of the public wishes to have any ask any questions on this application? Seeing none, hearing none. Yes, >> just briefly um there's
properties being added lot >> right minor storm water impact on that which are very easily addressed through review. Great. >> So I would recommend that it carries
approval of the condition that they submit for rating to the engineering office as part of the compliance before they get to their construction. So we deal with that there the appropriate mechanism not to burden it from coming
in front of the board to seek its approval before that minor mitigation. >> Sure. And I most likely understand a dry well for some of the roof levers coming off the addition to make up for the increase in the addition and the
increase in the driveway area just offsetting some of that runoff to make sure it doesn't impact that road for one line. >> Aren't they tending to get runoff from the road? >> Look at the elevation. >> Yeah, looking at the elevation it goes
the other way. >> Yeah, exactly. Okay. So, we're actually wanting to address this already as it is. So, I I Yeah. >> Yeah. High point is past them. >> Yep. >> Yeah. >> So, most of it's going to really just be
the lock rating and really making sure everything carries to that, >> right? >> Which helps you. >> Yes. >> Any other questions by board members or comments? If not, I'll entertain a
motion. >> Motion to approve. >> Comments from the public. >> Any comments from the public? George. >> Oh, I resend my motion. >> George, I'll make you change your mind. >> Yeah, he looks convincing.
>> Hi, I'm George Quillin, nine Barbberry Road. >> Your pleasure that the testimony you'll give to this board will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. >> I do. >> And your address, please. nine Barbberry Road across the street. >> Mike is more sensitive than I remember.
Um, so I live across the street from uh the olders and my house actually appears on the bottom of this photograph right in the middle. Um, the um I'll use the nice neighbor argument first, I guess, since everybody else was using it with the prior application. So, the olders
are great neighbors. Um, I have known about this um, plan of theirs for some months and Jackie was kind enough to um, show me around inside the house and explain to me how the circulation of the house will be greatly improved by the
addition and the changes that they'll make so that the um, so that they can access the house from the garage. The garage it it's clear to me that the garage was not built with the original house. It was an add-on. I don't know what happened to whatever garage may
have been there in 1929 when the house was originally built, but I think that what's there now is a like 1950s uh stuck on kind of jerryrigged um garage, which um probably never
worked that well. So, I fully support the application and I hope you'll approve it. Thank Thank you very much. >> So, this house was built before the zoning ordinances? >> Yes. >> Before the what? before the zoning ordinance. >> Oh, definitely. Yes.
>> I think more important for the sideyard setback. We already talked about this. >> There's one other like only one other house that actually fronts on old turnpike, right? >> So, officially it's a corner lot, but really >> it's a sideyard. >> It's a sideyard. It's not really a
front. >> Requiring a front yard set back there is >> a little off. I do. It's it's a technical front yard though. >> I No, I understand that. But the as as you know, the purpose of requiring a front yard setback
>> on the side is because you want it to line up with the front of all the other houses that front. >> Nothing else to maintain that >> there's no there's nobody else there. >> Okay. I have a motion. >> I'd like to make a motion to approve it. >> I have a second.
>> Second that. >> I'll second it. >> Lee, wait. Please second. >> Be quick. >> So I have Shuster and Goldberg. >> Mr. Goldberg.
>> Yes. >> Mr. Trackenberg. >> Yes. >> Miss Simmons. >> Yes. >> Mr. Schustster. >> Yes. >> Mr. Benois. >> Yes. >> Mr. Kramer. >> Yes. >> Mr. Wer. >> Yes. >> So move. >> Okay. And I will have that for you at
the next meeting which is the end of January. They all wait. >> Thank you all very much. >> Good luck. >> You're welcome. Good luck. >> You're welcome. >> Take care, Jack. >> It's crazy.
>> Okay. >> Nothing else. >> Any other matters? Did we announce 383? >> Oh, we should announce 38. >> We announced 383. A good >> good catch on your last move. >> Otherwise, he'd be noticing. He's got a
he should cookie tray or something. >> So, um, on the application for 383 South Street LLC, it's BA0425. That application is not being heard this evening. Instead, it will be heard at the board's um uh meeting on January
>> 26th >> 26th, 2026 um at 7 p.m. in this room with no further notices from the applicant. >> Do we need any kind of an extension from the applicant? >> The applicant is granted an extension through February 1st as well.
>> February 1st or February 20th. >> I think the letter said the first, but we're good through the >> Hold on. Let me double check that. I think we need to be okay. But we're first. You are absolutely correct. >> They they also asked if we the board
could entertain a uh special for this. I don't know if you want to do that now or if we don't finish it in January, consider it then. >> Well, we have to do our reorganization in January, right? >> Yeah. And there's two small kind of similar cases like I think right. So
>> that is correct. There's two small application like tonight they're additions. Okay. >> Yeah. >> So we'll have the two small ones and then we'll do >> so they should get at least two hours that night. >> Yes. Mhm. >> All right. Any other matters we have to
discuss on you? >> Uh no. >> Okay. Um I just have uh two matters. Um that's okay. Just one as a question in general based on a prior um application that we approved up for the uh learning experience up where the um on the
triangle. >> Yes. >> Um up there uh by uh where Whippony Road meets Columbia Turnpike. So we approved that application. Um we had to had them tone down the colors and you remember with the balloons and the elephant and all that. Um they were allowed to put up
a temporary sign in the front of the property until construction was complete. That's a sizable sign with the colors and all that. So, I don't know. I don't have the details, but I was under the impression that that was to come down once that they opened up. Um, and so I'm not sure if that's a follow-up
item, punch list item for the town to ask them to remove that temporary sign or how that would actually um, you know, align with what we approved and um, stipulated. Yeah, they Well, yes, we should just look at the you have your
zoning officer look at the resolution if it was a temporary sign. I don't just don't remember that, >> right? >> But um yeah, if it was temporary, then yes, it would come down because they had a permanent sign then, right? Wasn't there a monument sign?
>> Um I don't know. There was a monument sign. I believe that was done. And then also the lettering on the outside of the exterior of the building. Yeah, which we which we muted, right? >> Is the monument sign built? >> I'm not sure to be honest with you.
>> I don't think there was a monument sign. >> I'm pretty sure there was one because I thought that was part of the variances at least initially with the site plan. It was an issue for >> site distance coming in and out of the site. I kind of remember a lot of discussion about that. Right. A >> lot of discussion on that. >> Well, you got to do your homework if
you're going to pose a question. Well, I the monument sign wasn't really my concern, >> but they might just say they haven't since they haven't built that part yet sign. It's going to continue. >> Going to continue. I see. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> So, >> no one likes a rat. >> What's that?
>> No one likes a rat. >> It's not a rat, but it's we we you know, it's just really >> It's a good point to bring up. >> We uh you know, we wanted to sort of try to control for that in that sort of area of town with that sort of signage. Is a temporary sign all colors or is it
>> there's coloration on it? Yeah, it's it's a sizable sign. So whether it stays there or not, I don't know the zoning officer, whoever follows up on that. >> Yeah. >> Versus me just stopping in and saying, you know, I don't want to speak. Yeah, I understand. >> I understand.
>> I'm exactly. >> Yeah. >> And then the only other thing I have is I also wanted to just thank Sonia for everything over the years. It's been a tremendous uh um pleasure getting to know you and helping me through the years when I was a resident and
attending meetings. So, it's been, you know, time flies for sure. So, um yes, it does. You know, I've spent countless hours and numbers of meetings over the years and it's always been a pleasure. You've been a tremendous help to both myself and other residents over the years. So, thank you for everything and all the best of uh good health and
fortune to you in the future. So, thank you so much, Sonia. Any other matters? If not, motion to adjurnn. >> Motion to adjurnn. >> Second. >> Second. >> All in favor? I. >> Any opposed?
We adjourned.