##VIDEO ID:5sHYp3DV458## welcome to the mountain city council it's uh Tuesday January 28th 602 can we uh do the Pledge of Allegiance I pledge aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liy and justice for all all right we got our agenda here does anybody have have any amendments no amendments here okay and uh I got the again the agenda can I get a motion to approve it I'd like to make a motion to approve the agenda okay can I get a second second all right any other discussion all those in favor please say I I I those oppos all right that passes and then we also have our consent agenda does someone want to go through items a through E I can read it okay thanks uh the consent agenda is a approv payment of claims B approved minutes January 14 2025 regular council meeting and the 14th Workshop city council C approve of Tyler Piper to PC commission threee term January 2025 to 27 D Emergency Management h the county all Hazard Plan update E Pay request number four in the amount of 35,600 $670 to New Look Contracting for L Lake count phase one improvements okay we got a through e does anybody want to pull any of those or talk about it well I have a question yeah uh just if Sher is PC parks and planning were there any other um candidates other than Tyler no which is which falls into our conversation earlier true I I just I just had the question but we ran the ad twice we're gonna we're going to have discuss that's all I want to know I'm done okay all right any other discussion on the consent agenda anybody want to pull anything okay can I get a motion to approve the consent agenda I'd like to make a motion to approve the consent agenda items a through e okay can I get a a second second okay roll call please council member herck hi council member McAn hi council member Pew hi council member castalano hi mayor Hol I all right thanks all right so number five we got comments and suggestions from uh any citizens that are present that their item is not on the agenda if you want to come up give you three minutes yeah hey can you give us your name and address good evening Sher Wallace 2135 Overland Lane hello I'm here again um I'm here before you tonight to talk about an initiative that the Harrison's Bay Association is pursuing we have been doing conservation activities on Harrison's Bay since 2021 all of these activities have been funded by generous local donors mostly Lakes Shore residents we have seen a huge Improvement in the recreational quality of the lake um due to our management of invasive species last year we incurred a 55% reduction in our giving and a huge increase in the amount of money required to manage the Eurasian mil foil the board um has been researching opportun ities to fund these conservation projects into the future and we think we've come up with one that we want to mention and and just give you an uh an update on what we're doing in 1973 the Minnesota Legislature created the lake Improvement districts it is a special purpose government formed to pursue um and fund Lake Improvement efforts this lid would be under under the governance of the city of Mound there are currently two lids on Lake minaka St Alban's Bay and Carmen's Bay and they're managed by three cities Greenwood exceler and Orono forming a lid would allow us to have consistent funds for the management of invasives and water quality initiatives it would provide equal contributions from homeowners and eliminate the timec consuming fundraising activities our volunteers then would be able to focus on conservation activities how this works once approved by the city a board is elected by the constituents of the district and programs and budgets are set this budget and tax levies are approved by constituents via the annual meeting and submitted to the city the process to create a lid is extensive and provides a lot of leg work for us the HBA board the process includes the DNR as an as an Advisory board for the public and for the city we've had multiple meetings with the DNR to confirm that our Bay is a good candidate for this program and get examples of what's been done in other districts across the state we've created a project timeline using the DNR flowchart which describes the process I have a copy for each of you we met a couple weeks ago with Jesse and Noah to discuss the process and obviously we will need to have other discussions we are definitely at this stage um the hbaa board will be focusing the next four months on building the proposal communicating to our residents and securing support signatures from over 50% of the household s then we will be presenting this POS petition to the city our current goal is to finish the creation process and submit a budget for 2026 um we're here today to let you know that we will be pursuing these activities to give you a heads up to allow you to ask questions and to come up with a good communication plan to answer all the questions that you may have so all right that is it does council have any questions I just you know I we talked about this I think a few times um and I think it was actually before you even uh were on the board no there was there was another time before you um I think it was a different thing oh this was back with Eric and anyway uh we have the council has to be a a support uh for them to be able to do this um and can you just remind the council when you get back to the podium um like what exactly our role is beyond just signing signing so the city's role well in the process or afterwards what just the yeah I mean I mean afterwards is a little gray for me at this point right I know that you have to accept the budget and present it to henpen County right every year and then the funds come to you and then it's kind of a pass through right to the lid um so that's that part of it which we talked about a little bit um and then um in the process the responsibility of the city is once we provide you with our signatures is there's a validation period um you will the DNR will get our proposal at the same time you get the proposal and the DNR will take some time to review that Pro proposal they will write up an advisory report that and you're the audience of it as well as the public is the audience and then it's coordinating a public hearing on it and after the public hearing you need to decide if this is something as a city council that you support right this sounds like another layer of bureaucracy but I haven't read enough into it just for the council to know if you haven't read the Harrison Bay newsletter which is that it explains exactly what Miss Wallace just explained to us in the newsletter I had a link to the but that the donations are down and and that's all in there and I just read it this morning that's why I happened to see that it was there yeah and sometimes it's in the followup stuff it's not right up front in our email so you got to kind of dig for it but it's there so bureaucracy really what it is is it's a way for lakes around Minnesota to do conservation activities where the residents agree to a levy and that Levy then goes directly to the conservation activities so the residents like what kind of activities for example like uh vegetation U management so invasives same things we're doing today with donations right so treating the curly Leaf pondweed which is suffocating Lakes treating the Eurasian mil foil which you guys have heard you know that's why we do boat monitoring and that kind of thing um water quality monitoring and making sure working with the DNA R rain Gardens education to Residents all of these conservation activities that directly impact that particular Bay it could be carp management it could be removing Carp from the bay which we have you know th hundreds of thousands of carp and is this just talking about Harrison Bay or are we talking about every Bay and the this is very specific so we will present as part of our proposal where those boundaries are so in other words when I give my tax statement if I live on the bay obviously I would probably would have signed off on this in the first place 50% have to sign on this in the first place but it would only go to them it's not like like a school district no yeah specific to those people so none of us are going to get this letter you know on the council you know probably most people aren't going to get it because not everybody lives on the bay um we're just kind of the inter governmental agency supporting basically getting the check and pushing it back out to them so and I would encourage you to talk to to Orono about carman's Bay or talk to um ex exceler or Greenwood about what they're doing in St albin's Bay and what they've seen I just looked at the levy for St albin's Bay they've been in around since I think 2014 or something but I think it was 2023 they suspended their Levy because they had carryover money that they didn't use and basically the treatment they didn't need to Levy additional money onto people so every year that's determined based on the budget to do the projects that are totally outlined right so it's very very specific they have to approve the projects and approve the money towards that project and approve the levy at the annual meeting every year so is it like um uh Greenwood and Excel here is it like another city committee no like how is it organized like um it's it's a separate board Al together so it's not like like the Planning Commission in parks and Open Spaces a separate it's it's totally separate okay how many people are I'm sure maybe every city is different The Proposal outlines that once we get to it but I'm thinking probably 5 to seven Bo members that would be elected um probably the first year we would use the HBA board members just because if we're submitting a budget this year you know there might not be time to get new people involved but after that starting the next year it would be an elected board so your your first issue is you got to go convince 50% of your people oh we have a ton of of stuff to do right so and then again I I think are you just telling us or are you kind of looking to see if we you're kind we're somewhat supportive so you don't oh I don't want you to to say anything really I mean I want start I I know the board likes to understand the concepts that are going on right and so I'm here to say this is what we're doing this is what we're going to be presenting to Residents if we don't get 50% support I won't be back here right right right so I'm just kind of giving you a heads up um we think this is a really positive program and the DNR is very very supportive they'd like to see all the bays in like minaka beond this yeah I don't have the energy to get 50% of all the Bays no I'm dealing with my little piece right piece of the world right now right I mean I understand you're just giving us like the heads up on what you're working I just want to yeah kind of let you know this is hey this is where we're at if you guys want to do more research if you want to see what Excel here has to do to like manage this or Jesse wants to call up the administrator there and understand that great I think Orono would be the best example we're going to keep our boundaries within Mound yeah and all car's I believe is in Oro basically would Mound be the Clearing House for your money I mean how can we convince the taxpayers that we're using our staff to get your money out for Harrison Bay how how do we make a case for that conservation for for that portion of Mound when we have a lots of other areas that other other base could do the same thing right I would say also it's like for the people that it would go to them if they voted for it like if like she said if they if less than 50% then it's just not even but we're still we'd still be utilizing our staff so I I'm just saying we as a council need to understand how much work directly where our taxpayer money is going and if it's going to a portion on Harrison Bay everybody in M us or like what the ongoing commitment is well that would be something that Jess wants to advise you on you know uh cuz I would have no idea what that Pro he seemed to think there was something similar that was going on our so we met just to sort of get an idea of what this is um from the little bit of research we did as a staff it's seems like it'll just work like a tiff District um which is what we are um we operate several of those and there are mechanisms to recoup staff time or costs that are incurred it's usually not a lot but if it is that simple then it it it should be very straightforward literally receive a check cut a check but um and we could build in if there's add a city time we could build that into the budget right of the Conservation District so our our thought was kind of wait until we know that it's a a thing for sure I mean if you come back like you said you don't have 50 I won't be back but that's our expectation that there is a way to recoup anyway cool so again I'm I'm gen generally supportive of you keep working on this and going forward um obviously if three of us aren't right then that's a problem then I'd say stop right um I you know I or if you want more information right you want more information from what I've looked into I'm comfortable with you doing more if you want to give everybody else more information or Jesse if you want to try to get us more information but you know with your timeline and you do come back and again maybe we don't see you again because 50% don't want to do it um I just want a better understanding of how Mound is how we how we play the role it's it's very little role but yeah I to get it up and going I think it's it's a little bit and like again if if we can do some kind of back pay thing where you know we we spend so many hours of staff I agree 100% like we should be covered right um it's still doing something good for mound as a whole but yes it's only a certain amount of people but we do a lot of things for a certain amount of people alone and I love what Sherry does but I'm just saying at what where do you draw the line you know we have lots of Bays that touch m volunteering her own time to get this I understand that and we appreciate all the volunteer work you do but that's the thing like if if we don't have someone like her to set this up it doesn't exist and that's why I said go for and it's not just me it's a it's a board our whole board right so I've got a lot of questions but obviously tonight might not be the form to address those yeah and I don't know did you check on a work session or something is there another Forum where more information could be given yeah I think that would be another route too is if if the council would like or if you wanted us to come back for another well I know we're not on the te this is a three minut thing that went to 30 so or just or just give us the links for yes any information that you you think would be beneficial for us to and the other thing is Kathleen meter from the DNR she would be a great resource and I can send you that too to to help you understand these conservation districts yeah okay okay all right cool thanks for coming out yeah anybody else want to come up for three minutes okay I'm going to bring up uh cornal please here quick somehow you're never on our agenda and when when you are on the agenda you're not here that too so it's always good to see your do you come you try to come every time and then if there's a cuz I think we usually did you once a month way back when at R meeting yeah right yeah we I didn't have clarification on it and then um Cory and ton Chief and deputy chief kind of instruct me to be okay I I think we said that because there's a few that we got missed yes and so we're like okay got to stop missing and the only reason they miss is it's a call yeah you're doing something more important usually the men and women out there can handle it but if there's something that be that go so well let's put him on the agenda every time time and then right after public comment so we can be more official if I'm not here I'll have one of my officers to and if something comes up I know you've emailed me before and we can just and I can always send you my okay anyway well thank you for coming yes thanks you had me um so nothing much to report this month well within the last two weeks since I've been here uh I had uh my staff run the numbers uh there were 65 calls in January so far uh cold weather is definitely around um people aren't moving um but that doesn't mean things aren't going on uh my staff or my officers and other officers are constantly doing spot checking right now and they're doing house checks and they're they're doing a lot of proactivity out there they're not um sitting idle they get out they walk around as much as they can um we are the biggest thing right now we're doing house we have a lot of house checks and if you guys aren't familiar with those that's a service available to um our cities where you go on the oral website fill out a form if you're leaving town for set amount of days or a month or you're leaving for the winter you fill it out give us the information and then we go out um maybe get a check a week or two checks a week or one check every couple weeks we you know as often as we can we hit those we have an app that we make sure we're checking and stuff and US supervisors we're checking them making sure that they're getting done there's no houses missed stuff so it's kind of free service we or service we provide that we want to make sure people are aware of so other than that we had the Polar Plunge on Saturday yeah we did have a good turnout our our Orno team raised uh $3,925 it was sound like it was a good time and everyone did well so they were hearty jumpers yeah it was cold windy windy he did a good job so L luckily I was a night shift officer you iy got out of it yeah I was say where were you but uh one other thing to REM I wanted to remind too is I just got a BCA alert from my investigators too that there's a kind of a uh a rash of uh window Windows being broke out at events so like we I think we had one up in Orno a hockey arena where somebody came through and started knocking out windows to grab valuables so and that that happens at our dog parks Susan Lon Park we have to remind people take your valubles with you um they will even if you hide them they'll still wreck the window to get to check the car so try to remind everybody just be very cognizant of that and if you're going into one of these events know it's it's a Target and we try to you know watch as much as possible but take your stuff that way you know you're out a window and not a laptop and a purse and credit cards and stuff like that so um and then oh yeah Cory want to remind you I think he sent you an email regarding um the ebike um they're going to be like an ebike conference with West uh Three Rivers Park District they're going to put on kind of a whole rundown of the ebike situation so just wanted me to remind you guys of that question all right does council have any questions no thank I I've gotten two um comments one um I've used Metro Mobility and this last week I used transit services which is u a subcontractor MH of theirs but their cars are labeled and the driver was stopped for going too slow and he was a little unnerved about it he was trying to find the address and he said why would they stop me and he said the officer kept saying are you drunk and he said no and and then he said well do you have have you taken medicine so the the officer was fairly persistent took his license went back and then came back and gave it to him and sent him off but he was H is that in our area uhhuh okay because I live right over by the library kind of in Methodist Church Tanga wood um and also I got an email from someone who said there's concerned about all the police sirens now my theory on the police sirens is that it's Minista and that they use the sirens to run through Mound because I always hear them end when they get down to three points you know but um is there increased s sir activity from you guys well we we're governed by the laws what you know like if we do have a like a a call that requires us to be there quickly we will use lights and Sirens um it is discretion of the officer to use them uh everyone's different day day times are different from the nighttime so um I used to be a mound officer so I could get anywhere in the city in three minutes so lights and Sirens were never usually a issue for me so I I usually vow not or vouch not to use them so but usually during the daytime with there's traffic you're going to hear sirens because we got to move people out of the way and let them know we're coming to get to a call it could be a medical it could be you know a domestic it could be something that the officers need to be there now and get there as quick as possible so but okay I don't think you're going to hear many at night because my guys don't tend to use them unless there's something pretty serious going on so all right thank you and I will look into that incident and see what what happened there and get to St so thank you all right thanks again have a good name all right number six we got hearings on liquor compliance uh are you taking that Kevin or you can take you can okay I'll chime in when needed hello Council Kevin Kelly city clerk um kind of self-explanatory we've had a couple of alcohol compliance check failures um both happen on October 13th Oro PD does Chucks twice a year through all of the liquor lenses in the city um kind of gone through this unfortunately in the LA last last year as well um so one of the um establishments in town Casa Amigos Restaurant has had their third violation within um a three-year period of time um it's actually they've been been in B been in operation since January of 2023 so they the violations go in threeyear cycles and they've actually had three now in their two years of operation um and DaRuMa Restaurant um on um loer Boulevard they had their first um failure in 3 and 1/2 years of operation so so um with each violation the um the penalties um and the fees increase for those violations so um the minimal fee for a first violation um in a three-year period is a one-day suspension of the liquor license as well as um a fine of up to of $500 minimum so and then for Caso Amigos for their third violation within the threee period um they have a 200,000 minimum um penalty and then a 7day suspension of the license so I'll just let you know that Kasa Amigos has paid the $2,000 fee already so just you know that so there was a typo um or a mistake in the um agenda on AG 247 it's a 7 7day suspension of the license for Casa Amigos so so um we do have uh both so take a look at the decision section on the resolution on 247 the last sentence says for a three-day period should should be a 7day period should be corrected in the final version okay um maybe we're not there yet or we are but don't those S day doesn't that 7-Day period have to be decided upon no we have it set up so that the police chief will make that decision so the city still makes that determination but I remember reading that now sorry thanks yeah the last violations we kind of negotiated with the two there was carbonis and kasum meos last year and this year we just felt that we should just allow the ropd to set you know the time the the suspension dates that works best for them so okay so the both uh both uh part both um restaurants their ownership are here if you wanted to speak to them or you have any other questions for me does council have any questions for Kevin you well no not a question just information for the council um if you're starting on page 250 um notices were provided to both um establishments indicating that um they did if they wanted to have a hearing to challenge the violation they had to notify the city in writing by a date certain um that wasn't done and so the the it's consider the violation is considered uncontested and so the purpose here is um is for the uh uh is for the termination of the penalty okay all right thanks Kev yep thank you thank you um is it Mr Ortiz you want to come up so Louis is it Louise L I remember that yeah remember the ribbon cutting uh yeah it's been couple years yeah anyways yeah my name is Luis Ortiz I'm the owner of the Cs Mexican restaurant and I mean I just wanted to say I'm sorry apologize yeah for what happened uh this was what happened when you have um so many restaurants you know to run so and I don't know if any of you guys are on the restaurant business or being on the restaurant business before so I wanted to know I would like to know you know if you guys understand how restaurant business run I don't but I come to your place a lot so anyway so and another question that I have like what uh the city do to educate like educate uh employees our employees or your employees my employees each each City have their own their own like they give class you know before before at least once a year you know and I don't hear anything yet from from from here you know last time we had I think it was your manager in here yeah can't remember her name but um and and I think she said specifically to me too because she's like I don't care if if you look like me in other words my age whatever I however old I am or you or you you know she kind of pointed at a few of us she like we will call her card everybody right M now I know specifically cuz I've gone in there multiple times I don't ever get carded and that's after that I mean and she said she's going to card 100y old people I would like to know if you guys been on the restaurant before you know you don't get offended but a lot of people get offended you know like well that's not your I mean you you still got a C I mean you're not going to have a liquor license so that's the problem I mean we want you to stay I love your food man yeah that's that's another another thing you know you guys City I mean I would love to stay too you know yeah and just so you know four violations in a three period is revocation mandatory revocation like you got a car to everybody like I don't care what they look like if they're breathing you got a card I'm going forward I mean and I'm flattered when you ask me for identification and just blame us say Hey you know we we I'm sorry it's a city thing and then the other thing too is when you card makes you actually makes you actually read it too mhm that's I've heard in our some of our past issues that you know they they'll look at it but they won't see the actual date or they won't do the math and it's like I think through the state you can get these things that you put at your registers and say you know if it's this state or you know I think there's like digital versions of them too but we want you to stay here and I know if you don't have a liquor license it's going to be tough you know you know if if you fail another time and at at the end of the day I mean there's nothing we're going you know we're not going to it's going to going to be game over next time so no I I get it you don't like I said I would like to stay too you know I'm building my other restaurant by the way so yeah where where at St mik wber Bill oh yeah I guess I'd like to offer a few to answer Mr Ortiz's question um so I'm in a similar industry to yours and you can do like the city doesn't provide help directly but if you go I don't know if you guys are mlba members Minnesota licensed beverage it's like 300 bucks a year and they'll provide an in-person or online training for all your staff and you print the certificate and you know like we make our employees watch them every year again and again and you can get like an insurance break too for having that completed if you submit that but it does make every employee go through it but what's better than that like you were saying the calendars you know your beer vendors will give you those for free you know born onor before this date but for less than the cost of a fine you can purchase um I don't know who like who your point of sale or software the PC St uh like where you can run the ID yeah they have handheld ones too where you can do the same thing and I mean you like you said you got to card everybody and it will just pop up red you know like yeah I give you the the AG yeah so I don't know it's a if you buy a couple of those I mean that goes a long way too and it's just no that's what I was asking you know have you guys been on the business before so you guys like you go through so many people his is very similar he goes through a lot of people it's hard to keep up you know like you own multiple pieces so it's hard for you to be in one restaurant and in in I mean you got to rely on your stff I wored to pay my bills I worryed to pay my mortgage I want to pay the rent you know uh and yeah you uh give that job to the manager but yeah yeah I guess I would see if your point of sale can't do that I mean there's somewhere where you type in the birth date or scan the ID and it just say no you know it's just even if they're 95 years old don't you have like a job eight of like what to look for and like yeah that too mlba is 300 bucks very well spent M this I got to think the state has some is that the state thing uh no it's private but I mean it's it's pretty inexpensive for the materials that they give you and provide like printed materials for your register and right you know all that stuff but there's ways to like every time someone orders a drink it has to get put through that you have to take their ID and takes more time but it's bulletproof I we use it every day and turn people down almost daily but it's effective I don't know what it's called but there's a few different machines that will that will do that all right that like that idea too because that kind of um alleviates you um from the guilt of feeling like you're offending somebody it just just is a task that has to be done every day and and it kind of takes the ownership of you and puts it back on no I understand so this isn't exactly totally similar but uh when we were doing the spirit of the Lakes right um I got a whole bunch of uh banners yeah the banners right and you know the board Spirit likes board is like hey you know you got hand but you got to you know you got to do so they had the little job aid thing and say what to look for and stuff but you know I wasn't like trained to it but um and I did it for every single one and they're like well what do you mean I'm 75 years old and I'm like just humor me and give me your ID you know make a fun thing about it so um yeah I it's for your protection yeah we want you to stay here so we don't want to see see you back can we provide some of these instructions or helpful hints Jesse can you when they get their liquor license from the city like there's these things are available for you to help protect your license I mean I guess I don't know then we got to do it for everybody you know it's like well and it's only the initial contact so I mean but still true I mean if he had been aware of that maybe he would have leveraged this MLB no I mean no I I've been on the business for you got a lot of locations just yeah every city have like training at Le cly map El Weber I don't know even Becker three 4,000 people you know they have uh classes every quarterly right so but with all due respect it it's really your job to have your employees understand what I tried to explain you know we rotate people every over other month you know so do you still have a vager that kind of runs that location this location yeah no she's I haven't seen her for a while months ago okay months so are you kind of stepping or your wife or okay again I whatever your chain of command is you got to you just got to figure that out and you know if even if someone leaves you know how are you going to solve the problem when when the next person comes and right again this is your livelihood right but you know you got to make it happen I think the ID swipers are less than 500 bucks the handheld ones and the ones that can go onto your monitor they're like for like 200 bucks okay well I don't own a business in that area but I would would recommend putting posting a sign right on the door that says we ID everyone I think and I think you can get you have it but then I think it's also to your point another level of it's also requiring your employees to card everyone anyone that orders a drink you have to provide that identification you know and even if it's just a step of requiring them to mark down the date of birth on the ticket so that you have a record of it if someone ever comes in and says well you didn't card me you know you can say oh yeah I did on when did you come in okay and word spreads really fast amongst the kids when there's no um chance yeah checking ID going this is a sting right so I understand right and and they are miners too but what I'm saying is you have minor you know what it is yeah you know the kids all find out you know oh wow they're not even kids and kids and Mound aren't going there because they get caught but kids and why is that it might go hey if you go over to Mound they don't card it cost Amigo you know kids talk there you go so um again nobody wants to see you go and so you know the responsibility to protect yourself we all want you to do that M I empathize though I mean like the training and the turnover it's a lot of work and you give someone the training and mistakes can be made but I would definitely call up the the mlba and they're really really quick and really helpful okay it's pretty inexpensive does the employee gets fined as well correct yeah they have to go tot two and ,000 so it's yeah go to your record I will you know explain it like go to your you got to go to court you got to pay at least $3,000 and they're like kids so it's tough for the whole business is tough which makes us appreciate you and your good product even more so yeah I wish I could empathize with you I just understand it's hard enough to even keep employees these days yep second Jason's how many yearsan how many years have to s what's the deadline for this last one I I I mean not that we're trying to just get you one more year but no basically it's it's a it's a well stay stay clean until you're done out of business but it's but it's a threeyear period so you start yeah you start from the first violation and so basically it's those violations are always going to sit there there like a window three or window keeps moving and so it's possible that you could get to where that first one was gone but now you still have two sitting there and then it's another third violation that's so it's not fourth violation no no fourth violation in a years in a threeyear period so from the first violation he has then you start counting them and if gets a fourth violation then it's a revocation but the the windows always going to be sure moving so you got to be really careful for the next okay well ever yeah all right well thanks good luck to you and thanks for your business and great we we'll be we'll be in we won't see you here but we'll see you there yeah thank you so good okay so on page 246 we have a a resolution if someone wants to make a motion for that don't we need to change the date decision yeah and change the date um and this is just for um if there's just the one change I can do that um I'd like to make a motion a resolution make a motion make a motion to for a resolution I'd like to make a motion for a resolution making findings conclusion and decision regarding liquor license suspension and imposing civil penalty on C Amigos Mexican Restaurant um with the correction of um seven days from three days on page 247 okay got a motion can I get a second second any other discussion what's the fine the Civil pen is you already paid it it's 2,000 it'll be it'll be filled in 2,000 okay thank you okay uh any other discussion all those in favor please say I I I I those opposed all right that passes okay next up we got DaRuMa Restaurant do you want to oh you already said that so I'll just have her come yeah y can come forward okay how are you can you give us your name and address please hello everyone uh my name is ying a I'm the owner of DaRuMa Restaurant uh I feel as shamed that happened yeah um I mean I've been server for like 20 years I've been very alert about this issue um unfortunately that day the guy went inside my restaurant if you ever been to my restaurant you know that my sushi bar and the bar yeah at one part and then they asked the sushi chef for the drink not my server my servers are higher lot about this and they one of my Ser C everyone and then they even they got offended and I know they are regular customer they look we check ID before we know them she still continue doeses that but and he my sushi chef asked for ID he know that he looked young however he didn't do the math right right unfortunately so yeah um I know that this not going to happen again um I have a calendar at a bar area for the date and right the year so that has to be matching the ID when check yeah um yeah but unfortunately that I don't know what happened that day he was just not thinking not couldn't do the math but it happened so yeah yeah what does council have any questions well another great restaurant you know we feel terrible you're in this position and yeah yeah it can happen to your best employee too I mean I would just say like put that policy in place if you can make him type in a date or something or I don't know well yeah with our restaurant um like I I know like before the big restaurant I worked you always enter the item before you serve but sometimes we do like bar right there yeah and I usually like if customer asked me I would ask him to pass me after if I asked him but that day Soo was busy with other customers and uh and he just he just did it wasn't which was not happening often that he serve alcohol to the customer unless like regular customer sitting in front the sushi bar they know them he he talks to them so yeah um but I I think I heard you just uh suggest that put a sign that we C every everyone by the door that's good idea that helps but remember we're still going to bring a minor in there try to get you to serve them just to check yeah right so even if they see that they're not done no matter for them but it matters for other people I guess it just it needs to be constantly reminded like oh well talk to everyone that could reach alcohol there just hey remember what happened just yeah check ID yeah so that's what I'm going to do just be on on their back all the time now was it ginger salad mhm yeah I was just we were just talking about that we are you hungry well had a ginger drink in the in the break room here and uh and I said oh have you ever had the ginger salad over there and I don't know have you had it yeah yeah and she she really likes Ginger so okay I like the onion soup everything else you don't eat out much right Katie texted me and she's like hey do you want Dura tonight I was like yeah but I'm going to council so okay yeah I remember your name on my order all right well again thanks for coming out yeah thank you appreciate it happen again okay okay all right thank you thank you you okay so page 248 we got this one and so this is a what's the fine on this one $500 one first one yeah and then a one day susp suspension because it's their first one okay so someone wants to do the resolution make a motion um resolution making findings make a motion for a resolution oh I make a mo motion for a resolution um the conclusion and decision regarding I have to read every word oh I make a resolution making findings conclusion and decision regarding liquor license suspension and imposing civil penalty on dama restaurant do that work okay I got a motion can I get a second second all right any other the discussion all those in favor please say I I I those oppose all right that passes okay now we got number seven plans and specification authorization and Lost Lake Commons improvements phase two come on up good evening Mr Mayor members of the council Brian Simmons of bton M senior city engineer uh what you have in front of you in the council packet tonight is phase two of uh the artist formerly known as the harbor District park we're striking that from our memories now it's Los Lake comments we are asking for permission to prepare plans and specs which is the first step in moving towards bidding and awarding something uh and this is phase two so the important elements are you know we we constructed the foundation for the this this new park last fall uh and these are some of the the feature pieces some of the lighting uh some of the concrete Paving for the plaza seating and the fire pit uh and we are getting started on this now because we are intending to have a little bit more Communications and a little bit more collaboration some of these things are going to go through or to uh the Parks Commission so that we can make sure that we get feedback from all of the interested parties because lots of people are excited about this and want to have some say in what this looks like and while we have some Landscape Architects that are very good at this Matt and I are just Engineers so make sure we get the right creative people in the right creative places you say just engineers get just I'll say it it's okay it's okay engineer with a little e uh this project is included in the capital Improvement plan it is included in the long-term financial plan uh and the preliminary budget for this phase is $850,000 which is the number that is in the long-term financial plan I have a couple questions on that um fire away so I should remember this too like planning and are so the $850,000 would be the bid that covers all five bullet points um that's the total project cost okay that should include paying us and paying the contractor so on page 254 like the the the bid would include those five bullet points yep and then they all get reviewed approved bid on separately within that umbrella I I think we're planning to bid most of them together as one project okay or or at least you know if there is something in there that unique things in there I was just wondering how that might work yeah yeah and and I think those are the details that we need to work out okay during the preparation of plans ins specs so if if something you know arises that it makes sense for us to come back and say we're going to split this out or you know some sort of partnership or something you know I I don't foresee anything like that happening right now but if it did we would come back to you all with a you know we're going to bid this separately so we're we we'd be approving the bid for all tonight knowing that they could happen not approving any bid not apping authorizing the pration specs you're just you're just telling me to get started yeah and then knowing that they could happen independent of one another I guess okay yes I was sort of done anyway so there are there any other questions there is a I have just an off question that you might be not be able to answer but Jesse you might so with the fire pits um you know like who's going to clean those do do we bring our own wood are they gas I I just don't know anything about the pirate pits I knew they were going to be installed I just would like to know more about you know the last time we talked about this I don't think we had determined yet how they would be uh ignited I I mean I sort of assumed off the bat gas made sense but I mean that's assuming availability because then there would be no cleaning required so I I don't know it could go either way cuz like excelsia as gas and then I think in in wetta I think there wood mhm I'm just wondering if what what what our plan was and if there would who's going to question that's been asked a lot because I've had a lot of people ask me and I right yeah I think it's a great question and I don't have an answer for you yet I think that's what you are asking us to get to the bottom of with the resolution that's attached to this for tonight so we know we know where we want it to go from the park master plan uh but those are those are details that we should get to the bottom of before we bid a project um helpful to know that that is a hot button issue do you have the little pointer thing cat toy cat toy this guy can you just point or maybe even Jess zoom in a little bit um CU I know this has three on here as well um just go through each of these what what were we doing on phase two specifically so like F I can see on the top left we're doing the plaza area right yep and we left all of the lighting throughout the entire park out from previous phases right so there's no lighting now correct yep and then so phase one you can see that walkway is already there the prominade is there that's pH one so this will just tie in it will be similar material walkway it looks like it's almost yeah okay and then again assuming we that's a fire pit assuming we you know go with this and then bid it out and then get it done I mean we're talking end of the year right yeah yeah so this would be our new Santa stage or whatever there's a there's a potential that some things would be finished in the spring you know like I always sort of Reserve that for our utility projects right is that we like to contractors as much runway as possible because then we get better bids but then you know if we've got a contractor that's wrapping up an excavation project in the fall then it rolls over into the spring to make sure that Turf is established and turf real important here sure for sure will any part of phase two impact the farm R Market we're pretty clear there well I think we did a pretty good job of coordinating with that this fall yeah you did so I I think we're going to continue MH cuz you're not going to need to store equipment over there or anything well I mean they will have some equipment for this they'll come and go yeah but but again you know we'll we'll coordinate they in a trailer yeah their equipment but we will coordinate again so that phase three that that's just a cover right like a shelter that's the phase three is the is the shelter okay so that won't be there correct but so phase two we're going to do that whole concrete deal and then whatever type of fire and just a thought on the fire thing um for my head um electric or you know gas whatever yeah that'd be fine but like who gets to push the button and is it locked when you know the kids coming up you know I don't know it like be set to be like only active at certain times of the day like if someone tried to start it after 900 p.m. it just work it just doesn't work yeah and then they also like an exceler they have a timer like it's like it just runs for half an hour okay yeah my very recent experience the outdoor ones at the outdoor ice rink in St Louis Park are locked and required to be lit by a city employee right that's my point is like but then it's like then nobody ever uses it because it's only during certain festivals or but I could see well I guess PRI our code it has to be 3x3 or whatever right we can't cheat on our own code I guess I get abuse that's what I mean it's going to be beautiful but you know that's my worry so I want to be real assured that there'll be some something in place that will keep kids safe or you know keep us from going broke for paying gas for 247 Camp outs or you know do we have cameras installation anywhere in I don't think so might something to consider they're relatively cheap nowadays at least give maybe the or police the ability to look at it we the skate park has it yeah well any so are you going to when we say go ahead are you kind of thinking with the Parks Commission be like here's a gas here's and then hopefully they'll make a good decision for us I I think there's some pieces of this that we end up workshopping okay with them yep with them and and even maybe bring it to you and having some more collaborative discussions about I I think this of all things is going to require engagement from Key parties and that that includes everyone sitting up there well maybe except for Scott he doesn't care questions from some of the new atessa uh residents they seem to have some concerns about if it was wood or or gas and do they want one or the other you know they didn't really Express and I what I wasn't sure is if they were concerned about if it's wood if the Timbers would fly over and oh and you know oh if the ashes would blow towards their building that kind of thing and we were all sensitive to that these days which was happening during the Christmas event that was was pretty windy that night right so but the fire department was was on hand and you know sure yeah okay so then going down here um so well here I guess we're at the bottom so what is this phase two little grid thing there oh dang it I knew I was going to do that I knew I was going to do Memorial pavers Memorial pavers yeah relocation of the ones that I'm sure were over okay well and I think maybe we got to talk about that we're not going to do those no we're not redoing we're not doing them cuz they're all terrible they're all just just is just terrible we're not going to be able to recover those so what would we do there then uh if we're not relocating the memorial pavers I would suggest that we probably need to find some way to honor you know the intent behind the memorial pavers Flack or something yeah yeah yeah and and then um that could be more you know stamped concrete oh you do that in the concrete that that could something to that's I've seen the list of these old there's quite a few yeah it's I think you'd have to do one master thing like a pla yeah a plaque saying you know and maybe it's in the grass saying you know on a poll right saying that we honor but the original donators we've seen I've seen the original list and we're not confident that we have all the all the list and all the people and it must be long it's very there's a lot of pavers I've seen it but it's and again you can't go and say okay that person check that you see it there because you can't see half of them mhm so but anyway so if if we do like a memorial thing plaque nice plaque then what goes just concrete there then or concrete to match the the stete on that side we actually have all the pavers that you could save right you I don't think we've removed them yet oh okay maybe we yeah you know maybe that families may want to come and get theirs they want to pick I mean they can come and get them but it's not going to work to put them back in well I know that but you know papers and salt pavers and salt in Minnesota don't make especially the dry cast pavers we've learned that lesson the hard way we've learned the hard way about faers in Minnesota yes okay so then what are those little blue things seating yep that would be part of face two so okay and what what kind of what kind of chairs are those are oh is it like picnic tables to to be determined okay just just some kind of seating it looks like four people could sit at a table maybe or is that what that I think those are things they probably have to the symbol that's used up there right now are those like cast in place picnic tables oh sure okay so like a like a metal fixture that's cast into concrete oh but that that again does not mean that that is you know what necessarily is going in here right this is just what what was in the concept planned for now and I think these are all things that we need to figure out together and this hole where it says phase two right above that Circle right here yeah that would all be that's all the other pavers and stuff too right that means this yeah this walkway that whole walkway cuz that's pretty rough but thing has been a thorn in my side for years right that when when it was still Auditor's Road right near there right the Paving Company came out and paid to replace it once and then it probably failed okay so as long the same concrete type of people that we used before cuz that other concrete is phenomenal the walkway yeah I we love solid we love it very nice and then I would you know kind of do the same thing so so um what we're doing the former former rotunda performance area is phase three we're not doing that included here so that'll be wood still or or it's grass and then partly wood it's grass this this grass pave can over here is to accommodate fire trucks oh okay so that they can they can get Driving Access in there or uh you know parts and utility vehicles is that like a special type of grass or uh it's a it's a special type of mesh that we let grass growth but you can drive on it okay sorry I rattle off grass pave like you all should know what it is you shouldn't but it's a thing we use that you plant grass and it grows up through it yeah and then all those trees on the whole left side is that phe too uh that I don't know off the top of my head all the darker green ones where or like all those trees cuz I know artessa doesn't have trees yet I don't know exactly how many trees we have bid for phase two I think doesn't specify phase one I think no that might be three yeah I think so we need the hammocks well that's the hammocks are SP to we're putting the hammocks on posts yeah they're getting their own posts not trees good and that is included in phase two along the artwalk get going up this way so where are we sourcing the artwork from is that a contest we're going to do or is it I think I think it's something we should do as a contest solicit local artists or maybe even rotate you know that's where if we had a coordinator they could do things with school kids and so has anyone been to the artery in Hopkins are you have you familiar with this like the center uh no there's a eth street in Hopkins is a has been turned into a one-way it's a two-way street on E Street okay it was a project that um our Bolam an landscape architecture division partnered on with the City of Hopkins and they engaged a bunch of local artists uh and they gave them you know that's right where the the Minneapolis Molen Factory used to be oh oh that new apartment building yeah so that apartment building was put up called the and there a museum but they they use that theme they of stuck with the mini mol so there's like a picnic shelter that looks like a big round tractor seat but it's like 18 ft across and there's a number of art installations along there that were from local artists um maybe just a little less intense for us because that was a significant expense for the city a lot of those artworks were commissioned but I think we can key off of some of the Lessons Learned there we could go to State art support and get a grant Community Grant yeah so do you envision the art being permanent or yeah permanent I I think if we don't want it to be vandalized or walk away I think it has to be permanent well I I'm just trying to grasp the concept when you were talking about the Hopkins which I want to go to that sounds cool when you were talking about school kids I I was going with it going to be transitor or permanent yeah in some communities where I've worked um they've done rotating projects with school kids and so they don't stay for very long but you know like you said if it's not permanent there is a tendency things walk away well so maybe a little tongue and- cheek of me to say that because I have seen installations where like uh a three or a four-sided pillar that is literally just a a lockable cabinet that you know a third grade class over here at Shirley Hills could make a poster and somebody from the city could lock it inside and then it's behind glass and we could rotate that kind of thing that could be part of that art walk so we could we could you know do that Community engagement with not permanent artwork but in a permanent installation if that makes sense yeah so there again I'm just an engineer there are lots there are lots of ways that and that that's why I I don't that's why we have you know Joel and the Landscape Architects that have worked on this and the the concept plan from you know H KGI and Rita and company that we have keyed off of to get here you know that was out on a table during the comp plan process I I don't think that was the last time necessarily we want to get public input I think that process is going to continue and I think U together at some point during this design we're going to want to have some level of public input or public solicitation whether that is you know something on um you know Instagram or using some of the social media or if we go even more intense with some sort of an open house or a you know a tent at Spirit of the Lakes um I think there's lots of ideas in my head uh but I know that we need to get started on a lot of that's yeah we going to be halfway done by then well right yeah phase two yeah I guess Spirit of the Lakes yeah that's a little late for this but so in in your list it does say finalize the Landscaping generally around the perimeter of the park so I would assume in all the bushes and trees is included in phase two is that what that means again I don't know exactly how many trees are included in that estimate for phase two because a lot a lot of time we'll do the trees afterwards but we'll do the Landscaping beds so we'll plant you know shrubs okay that that we expect to grow and then sometimes we'll put in trees afterwards I should probably get back to you on exactly how many trees are included you know when our when our commissioner from Three Rivers came last year she kind of indicated that we might be able to get some trees from them okay so one other thing about the art installations Nursery so yeah one other thing about the art installations is that uh that doesn't necessarily need to be figured out you know if if we are going to try and engage and bring in some Community we can provide spaces for those things you know we can say we're doing a 4x4 pad at every one of those that could be like literally the last piece well I mean the placement of the piece of art there could be pending you know part of a ceremony or something but would we be commissioning someone to or was a city paying to have this artwork done that that I think is part of what we need to figure out that part of this 850,000 estimate no no no there's there is not a budget in there for you know commissioning elaborate artworks that is to get us to a place to put the piece of art so we're going to have hammock posts yep how many of those uh I want to see two three four five yeah I thought there was six is that what that red star thing is no those are the art installations the art that's the art and then these are the hammock posts and then a couple of them are like twozies so you can hammock with your friend right well it' be nice to have your own hammock yeah it' be nice if you had a tree over your hammock at least starting well I mean just there just going to be a post in the middle of nowhere yeah I I agree so I think we should have at least that part of the tree budget we also don't want to put the tree in until the hammock post is cemented in the ground right order of operations right we don't want to destroy the roots from the tree right right so did we get public engagement on did they public ask for hammock yes hooks they did have you ever been to one wild hammock at home I don't go traveling around you go to if you go to South Minneapolis to the Rose Garden above the Rose Garden on the hill that's a hammock garden and in the afternoon people come with their hammocks and they hang them up and it's like a little Community it's like a pop-up Community the south end of bacasa is like that too yeah that's right M out out front of the those ropes theet balance on there yeah so this water quality Basin are we putting any kind of structure around it to prevent someone from falling into it uh it should not have standing water in it it should be like a rain gardy type of we filtrating water all right but how deep is it typically do you know uh you know usually they're green they're a green depression okay so so people aren't going to want to voluntarily walk through there but if you you know you kick your soccer ball in there or something or it's dark and somebody stumbles through there you know you shouldn't be splashing through water okay it should have drained through that's the quality part hopefully so really phas three is just the that cover on the top and then the thing on the bottom the shelter and the performance space that's really the main the last part so phase two we're going to have a pretty good completed Park if we get trees in there $850,000 should take us quite a way okay what about the farmers market what phase is that it isn't noted here I think that was the Plaza on the very upper yeah left was just for like Farmers Market overflow if needed into the plaza this would be overflow for the farmers market if well because it says Farmers Market future phase that's why I'm confused well there at one point weren't you going to put like a canopy over that parking area I'm not sure where we're at it's not a canopy I don't think exactly but there there's some sort of uh potential um scaling hope but I thought we were also looking for power outlets and all that fun stuff for them no well they they don't have them now I mean most farmers markets don't you know I mean there there's there's a limited number um but you know that's something we we need to talk with them about right in this next phase too I guess I'm just concerned is that part of phase two phase three or I think I think farmers markets in the future there is no phase we're talking one two three yeah that's a a wish list down the road interesting okay the discussions that I've been party to you know we've intended to interface with and respect the farmers market but we have not budgeted for any upgrades to the parking lot specifically for the farmers market we've talked about accommodations in the plaza you know for that like we said overflow or potential use there right across the you know where the line gets a little blurred but not going West in the parking lot there not to say that we can't you know nothing is set in stone but it's not in the current plan so what plans do we have to maintain that parking lot because it looks kind of it's not very presentable yeah add it to the list well no I mean we've always maintained it over the years for the farmers market I mean resurfacing it U so I I would assume that the city would continue it is a pavement to be managed yeah that is property correct it is city property and the Hope was that in the winter eventually that could become an ice skating ring not a hockey ring but a real skating ring so once we this phase two gets in there with the kind of prominade area to the you know top left there that's really going to give the farmers market a lot more could they feeling could they use that oh yeah is like a place to have the RO why not yeah yeah on Saturday for a couple hours yeah I mean I think that's something that the city appreciates we have people coming in from out of town from the immediate surrounding areas um that farmers market is a tiny little Jewel that you know I think the city really that's we from it's very well attended yeah it is a big draw I didn't put that on my list how could I forgotten that oh my gosh oh my goodness I I could tell just from the number of people that have reached out to me specifically you know in the construction in the last few years and concerns about the farmers market discussions about the farmers market how valued it is in the community is just sort of my observation so I I I like to think that we've tried to carry some of that respect through here are there any power sources along that prominade I'm sorry are there any power sources along that prominade like the light lighting at Christmas and that sort of thing did we do any of that I I think we're planning receptacles for Christmas lights okay yeah I think they were something they could use to leverage for generators or whatever they're currently using maybe we have a cost associated with that I don't if they're metered or what the deal is but I think that's something we should discuss with them at least offer up especially if we're going to be doing all this construction they're not going to be able to use that they're going to have to use their existing parking lots well remember they don't use this at all this was mud I think there'll be receptacles there though I mean Public Works is going to want them for Christmas lights and right stuff okay yeah we when we were talking about that was part of the plan okay and put a few more extra just in case yeah and there's one there's one already in the what do you call the what's the big circle on the bottom what's the yeah like there's receptacles there already and right I'm sure they'll just kind of spark parse them out through the park I mean that goes along with the lighting too it's easy to drag more circuits yeah sorry for this summer we will have them in their parking lot area correct M cuz we're going to have construction going going on with this park yeah there that should shouldn't really be disrupted shouldn't be in there term disrupted for them in terms of how we get to the park when we are doing this work that contractor is going to have to come through that parking lot because we can't access it off of Shoreline now and we can't access it really through here or at least we shouldn't right so that and and across the trail up here I we be the two ways that we're going to get construction things in and out so uh it's it'll be a an inconvenience to be managed but can you convey that Saturday mornings try to move your stuff yeah because they shouldn't be working there on Saturday anyway yeah we need them to we do have to provide but they leave their stuff there left you know storage staging area can we have them do it on the top on the North side there we have to provide some kind of staging area we can designate it North where we just did the there we can designate it yeah asphalt asphalt yeah whatever something like that well that I think you know you know what we want so good luck I I think I I think I know there are a lot of desires here yeah but but I did I did hear uh for sure to get to the bottom of gas or wood fire well I love that you brought up the um Hopkins area because it sounds like you learned a lot from putting that in place so we'll appreciate your advice going forward um from what you've learned if if you'll indulge me I went through the opening of the archery because I live fairly close to that uh and there was a thing there that I was actually kind of mad it was the first time I'd ever seen it the Public Works guys were there and they had a a like a t-shirt like a screen printing machine but they were stamping things and then so then they were selling like t-shirts and fabric bags and things and they were stamping them with just a gate valve cover that said City of Hopkins water and they were made were just buying it left I was like I am so angry that I never thought of this before and people were like this is so cool I was like well now I got to buy one cuz I got to support Hopkins public works right this is this is neat but those are the kind of things that come out of engaging the Landscape Architects and you know getting a a very pool of creative minds involved and and so I'm hoping to draw on those other people that would be really fun especially when we um I don't know what the term is but when we initiate the park and people are coming in to see it and we have an open ceremony but also to have someone there to make t-shirt thing and maybe use the artwork from a student yeah another contest I know a lot of cities do that with him that would be fun I'll sell you a m water shirt for $30 million lot of t-shirt nice lot Jesse we're going to fun the water treatment plant one $6 t-shirt at a time we got to S he said he said one30 million shirt he did say that $130 million design so so now that I've led us completely astray there is a resolution in the council packet uh thatth authoring the prep authorizing the preparation of plans and specs and ordering the advertisement for beds uh this is comma practice we do combine them all together at once uh but in last year the past few years we've been coming back to you with a construction estimate after the design is finished and I anticipate we'll probably do the same thing again here we just like to have everything neat and tidy in the one what do you thinking like March or uh there's a will you skip back to the letter Jesse Matt had a you had a right there April or May but that would be without this this would that's with that's achievable for hard features that are not up for discussion okay so so that may be the kind of thing that leads us down the you know we'll put some gas lines in and we'll make a foundation for a fireplace and then if we you know if there's still lots of input or the need for public engagement that' be the kind of thing we kick down to bring in later if we need to so just like what we did with last year you know Mountain's sick of being constructed the whole time so you know obviously we want to just you know get this going it's now a bad time to remind you that they are going to repay Shoreline Drive next summer just let us know if they ever as noted you know they they not they H County can't control it that'll be the summer spring or summer too be the well it'll look good midd it is it it'll be nice and smooth it'll be really but it'll be inconvenient till they're done right yeah as with all and everyone will complain that Auditor's Road doesn't exist anymore CU that was their bypass no one in this room is allowed to complain about that well it's gone one last thing totally irrelevant to this but when they repaint make sure they repaint turn lines I don't think I get any say in that help us out man I know I will I will I know J Jesse's already working on it with the county but I'm like you when you go to turn at Caribou right and it's like a solid line you feel like you're breaking the law you know like this isn't I get it it's temporary but you're not wrong yeah anyway okay so we got this uh resolution does someone want to make a motion I'll try again I'll make a motion as a resolution authorizing preparation of plans and specifications and ordering advertisement for bids for the Lost Lake commment Improvement project phase two all right got a motion can I get a second second any other discussion all those in favor please say I I I those oppose all right that passes thanks Bri thank you and thank you so much for the discussion I'm going to go madly take some more notes so I don't forget all of that you can rewatch this video Brian after you got promoted we haven't seen my tri you getting a motorcycle accident in July didn't help either oh yeah oh no will you look like you're you got your bounce back in your stuff good to see you thank you all right we got council member reports council member Pew um well I did go to the um Sr Sr which is the rate commission that we belong to and uh we have a lawsuit with is it Excel it's on the lights and they think that that's finally going to go through in in the fall but you know it's like a slow process and everything there was a lot of discussion and it doesn't affect us I don't think at this point but there's a lot of discussion where um I guess Edina manataka and Neen Prairie are having their wires buried and there was a lot of discussion and sharing how to manage these subcontractors that the utility companies so we were get there there's lots of good advice on how to manage the bearing of cables but that's that seems to be a big thing in in those larger cities so far and that was the only thing I did think and we got Council mckany I have nothing tonight uh Council M calano nothing Council M herck um I've been going to some training or um kind of an initiation into some of the different departments and I'd like to thank the staff I think that was very beneficial to myself I know Sher Wallace was also at the Planning Commission discussion with Sarah today and I think that's really helpful um I hope that we continue that in future we'll we'll do our first uh police commission meeting in a couple weeks I was going to ask you about that you should get invited to it Y and if for some reason you don't we I'll make sure you get it it usually comes out maybe about a week early but I'll I'll just make it right now don't they send out like all four for the year or something I think they already have preset dates or something okay so I went to a meeting with our our state senator uh is it Coleman or what's her Stuart Stuart Johnson Johnson or Johnson Stewart It's Stuart Johnson Stuart Johnson okay I always get him mixed up um had a really good meeting actually Jesse and I I uh went over there and and talked with her the other day and she's very supportive of our water tree plant and needing more money um I gave her uh kind of a copy of the bill that uh representative Myers uh produced in the in the house we're basically it's look it's 30 million and uh we're working back and forth with with Myers on and you guys um on how we get this language correct the first time this time and do we split it up into a couple projects or you know because we have phas uh or trunch one two three and so technically we're on two and three I guess so um do we just go for the Whole 30 which kind of what we need um and then if they say yeah well you get 10 again or whatever then how does that you know the the verbage work so I appreciate all you guys' work behind the scenes on that as well um anyway back to her Senator she's uh very supportive of you know our need and uh so I this is going to the newsletter is going to come out and um I I told her I said well you're going to be in the newsletter and your email's going to be in there so get ready um but if you're listening at home or wherever you are listening um she's supportive so is uh representative Myers but it still doesn't hurt to let them know and the more emails the more calls the more letters they get it's not a bad thing even though they are supportive um uh we also did you you have the the so we're going to come up with a I'm going to pass this out I want to send a letter to the governor um his budget's already out and he already has kind of the highlighted project but I think we need to make sure that he knows again you know that we need funding and it's it's going to go right to him uh the other thing is I if anybody knows him let me know but we're trying to get an appointment with him um we're also we're also on the city on the hill day we're going to yeah we already have appointments with uh both our Senator and our state R we're also trying to get other people on on the committee the Committees yeah yep so if if anybody knows anybody like uh chair Lee um chair papus uh and then of course anybody else had shairs any of those um you know please out cuz they need to know it's been a couple years since they came out on the bus tour um I think everybody knows down there but you know you get turn over and you know it's just good to keep keep uh letting them know so um so anyway this is the letter um we drafted and assuming of youall agree I have a I'm going to kind of have one Master Copy and then we're all going to sign it hopefully if you guys agree and then we're going to UPS it to to him we'll send electronic version and make sure that his staff gets it um and just you know and you don't have you don't have Myers's copy do you uh no just no that's fine okay uh uh representative Myers sent his own version already to the governor and I got a copy of it I apologize for not bringing it and then I'm going to have the senator do the same so she's going to send one over as well so if you guys are they all color copies andu okay just take one of them and then let's just sign and then sign and pass it down yeah under name someone doesn't agree it's going to look weird cuz okay you're going to have a blank spot but you have a pen so where's your you're going to sign right sign maybe right on name or on the side or whatever right above our names right above our names because then you have sincerely sure do that okay um and then the other thing too back to the senator we were talking about um you know again we need 30 million we we want to cover this whole thing um you know hopefully that works out um but we talked about having her draft a bill that would be kind of a bandaid for for you know Mountain residents and actually she's talking about doing this like Statewide program so um we know that no we're going to use the same pen sorry we know that if you have uh you know water softener and reverse osmosis and then you keep up your items and and and and they work and and then of course double double check and get it tested you know through Bloomington and um but we know a lot of these things take out Mages anyway so what what we kind of came up with uh the three of us and we thought well if if you could uh draft a a deal that says you know there's so much pool of money and you can kind of go to apply so let's just say I got a a water softener for 1,200 bucks or you whatever they cost right and then I got a reverse osmosis for 1,600 you know let's just say I spent three grand or whatever and then maybe you get 2500 bucks back right um You have to fund a little bit obviously but um so she's working on doing that and you know seeing seeing if uh she wants to introduce that bill so um more to come hopefully and hopefully she takes that up and maybe we can get support on both sides um and again this is more of a Band-Aid but and again just you know if you're watching at home and we're going to have a in March we're going to have are you coming out uh so Brian's going to do our uh state of the water uh kind of our annual thing just hey what what's the update where we at um what can you do and uh there's a lot of uh verbage on our website under the water tab that you can go out there um we need support obviously from from residents to all of our elected other I mean we already know we're already trying to do this you know it is but anybody kind of on different levels than we are um you know phone call letter email more the better uh we'll have a a appointment on uh March I guess we don't do you want to do the first meeting I'm Gone the second by the way so I won't be here so do it the first one need to be the first all right do it the first one I'd like to be here if what you're going to do okay so we'll do that March 9th or whatever that day is um um but again there's options for you to take care of your own family right so you might have fine water you might just want to test it and you might come back and everything looks great right obviously you might want to test it once a year or whatever but um and if you don't obviously you know don't be drinking the water and get bottle water or whatever so again more to come on that we'll we'll talk in depth on that on at the first March meeting um so that's kind of what I got does anybody have any questions on any of that good work to keep battling on to try to get resources that's a lot of work it's kind of like a part-time job right yeah behind the scenes so um again back to the city on the hill day if anybody wants to come to that I think you're coming right yeah City on the hill that is March 9th Actually March 6 March 6 okay so I'm Med on the 11th Medan is on 11th okay so if anybody wants to with um you know the council we're going to try to meet some people down there and tell them that we need help so that's that's what I got so anything else anybody wants to talk about all right I'll take a motion to adjourn like to make a motion to adjourn okay got a motion can I get a second second okay any other discussion all those in favor please say I I close all right we're adour