welcome to the Mountain City Council it's Tuesday April 22nd at 6 o'clock can we do the pledge of allegiance i pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation
under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all all right we got our agenda do we have any amendments no amendments okay uh can I get a uh motion to approve the agenda as is
i make a motion to approve the agenda as presented okay got a motion can I get a second second any discussion all those in favor please say I i those opposed all right that passes uh number four we got the consent agenda does someone want to go through those
items i can do that okay um agenda items A through E a approve payment of claims b approve minutes for the April 28 for the April 8th meeting c pay request number five in the amount of $17,469.50 to create construction for
project PW2408 and D pay request number four in the amount of $11,83542 to Whidmer Construction for city project number PW24-03 and E 2025 aquatic invasive
species ambassador program waiver of trespass agreement all right cut A through E does anybody want to pull any of those or talk about it all right hearing none can I get a motion to
approve the consent agenda make a motion to approve the consent agenda all right can I get a second second roll call please council member Heric i council member Mcanini i council member Pew i council member Kascalano hi
mayor Holt i all right if all that pass so you're here for that it's good to go all right number five we got comments and suggestions from citizens present that the item is not on the agenda today uh if you want to bring your item up
give you three minutes hey give us your name and address sure can I give you a hand out can I give a hand out sure thank you thank you qr codes on this so it's okay
thank you thank you my name is Ed Rockwell i live at 488 Edgewater Drive in Mound on Harrison's Bay i'm 57 years old and have lived on min Minnesota lakes for over 50 years 24 of them right here in mound on Harrison
Bay i have several concerns about the Harrison Bay Association plan to form a governmentbacked lake improvement district that may sound helpful but in idea but it creates a structure similar to an HOA and in many ways worse if
formed the lid would have the power to tax over 230 Lakeshore homes deed access properties in one business whether they agree with the lid actions or not it also shifts legal responsibility and liability away from the DNR and the
state of Minnesota and instead puts that liability on the Harrison Bay lid the city of Mound and the Lakeshore owners being taxed whether they agree or not they will be liable for their actions the HBA also is planning to ask the city to impose an
additional tax on the 90 Commons docks in the bay this liability shift is spelled out in the official Minnesota DNR rules on lake improvement districts once it is formed the DNR is no longer responsible and liable uh that is in your packet this is a huge shift in
responsibility and one that deserves a lot more city community input than it is currently getting the city should never take on this type of responsibility but if you vote on this the city of Mound will take on that liability and then there's the tax itself once the lid is approved the
board has the power to raise taxes with very insufficient notification on resident participation what I mean is Carmen's Bay Lid had a meeting and only had 10 lakeshore owners attend the meeting and vote out of 112 people
voting in a tax increase harrison Bay is a public water owned by the state of Minnesota and yet this lid puts the cost liability and long-term impact squarely on the city of Mound and the residents who own Lake Lakeshore in the Bay while
it's a public resource that anybody can use and enjoy i've been against HBA using herbicides in the lake since they decided to form this this association with no input from the majority of the lakeshore owners in other words they just decided to do
it now we are being told that we will be taxed like an HOA to fund their projects because and I quote it's too hard to fund raise i vowed I would never ever live in a neighborhood that has anything like an HOA and I will continue to fight
this along with over 100 signatures that we have received from people in our bay to stop this lid from forming and that's to date um now let's talk about chemicals they are using and let's talk about the
chemicals they are using and why they choose chemicals instead of manual removal of the weeds that they don't like in front of their homes the HBA has indicated that it's easier and they see it's more cost effective than manual removal this is at the expense of harming the natural ecosystem of the
lake so they don't have to look at the weeds but the DNR recommends manual or mechanical removal and is preferred and using chemicals should be used as a last resort but the HBA is getting the recommendations from the companies that
are selling them the herbicides and the companies that they pay to perform the surveys the companies that our tax dollars will be going to the companies that benefit killing the weeds with herbicide chemicals causes the weed structures to decompose rapidly
releasing concentrations of phosphorus into the lake contributing to the green color and possibly more algae blooms this is this potentially harms water quality more than if weeds were left alone or manually removed herbicides like daquat aren't selective it kills
the native plants like cotail which they should not be removing daquad is highly persistent and can last in the lake from applications up to 160 days in the sediments due to its low bioavailability this means that it stays
in the lake that long this means that the families and their pets that swim are exposed the birds and animals that eat the weeds are exposed boers from other bays that are not notified about the treatments will be harmed
what are the effects on birds that eat the weeds daquat ranges from slightly moderate slightly to moderately toxic to birds that feed on the weeds and the fish perch and possibly walleye suffer significantly respiratory stress during
the treatment and maybe for that 160 days the weeds are where the fish hang out the European Union has also banned the use of daquat but we're just going to put it in our lake year after year pcellor is another chemical they use
it's a PAS or a forever chemical calls for pause on on pilor use calls for pause on pilor use have emerged due to concerns over its safety uh there are links in your handout about that this is a new synthetic hormone
herbicide do we really want this in our lake studies show purselicar harms native aquatic ve vegetation such as cotail and water lilies not just invasive species this is also a potential for weed
populations to develop a resistance to pilicore especially if used repeatedly in the same area which they are doing so long-term health and environmental effects remain largely unknown and I think it's extremely unsafe to allow these chemicals to be used in our
beloved lake while we are the tear ter caretakers for our time of the lakes's existence due to time constraints today I have enclosed the data sheets from Carmen's bay lid which shows that repeated treatments isn't reducing their invasive weeds and is actually
increasing the kill of native plants like coonail their resident tax increase is $200 to $300 a year for chemical treatments according to the data it's increasing the invasive weeds and reducing the native plants that's um one
of the sheets in your page due to its ability to absorb nutrients from water coail does provide water quality water quality benefits and may help improve water clarity coonail has tremendous value as a year-round habitat plant for young fish such as bluegill perch
largemouth largemouth bass and as well as small aquatic insects some fish and waterfall eat its shoots and seeds uneducated residents also mistake coonail for mil foil most of the time i spoke to James Johnson from the survey
company that they use over the phone he indicated that Harrison Bay has very little mil foil and curly leaf pondweed and also told me that the fish will leave the bay when the weeds are killed what's very important to understand is if the HBA is successful
at removing the weeds the fish will move on this is already being reported by the fishermen that have been fishing here for years there is already fewer fish once the fish move on do you think there will be less food for the animals this possibly means that the beautiful loons
that we see in here out in the bay the amazing eagles that have come back could decide to go to lakes lakes that have more weeds more fish which is their natural food what I'm explaining to you is the butterfly effect the butterfly effect shows that small changes to the
ecosystem can have disproportionately large unpredictable consequences also out of the 11,800 lakes in Minnesota there are only 54 lake improvement districts this is an unpopular program
and I'll let you just think about why orno in the past has mentioned that they would like to see at least 70% approval rate for the bay to adopt LA i'd say we should have at least 80% or more for Harrison Bay there is an
ongoing effort and opposition in or oro to stop the formation of lids for the lakes and bays in the city as well if anyone here I can skip that because we're out of time in your packet supporting documentation that links to other communities that have expressed opposition for chemicals in their lakes
to recap there are many residents that oppose formation of the taxable lid and we have over 100 signatures we don't want these chemicals in our lake where we swim and play with our children and our pets we don't want horrible liability moved to the city of Mound the Lakeshore
owners like myself deed access owners and businesses do you have any questions all right thank you appreciate it i'm sorry I ran long yeah no that's all right we'll look over this and we'll see what we can do i have Can I ask one question we'll keep it super quick do you know and maybe
it's in here and I'll we'll go through it but um do you know off the top of your head because I know there's more than a couple lids on Minnotonka and I'm sure surrounding lakes too but of any that do the manual weed removal i do not think so okay i mean I can I'll
find that info too i have opinions on why but I I I everything that I've talked about is is documentation I've found on the web and I've done research and I want to provide you with all the information so I'm I'm not blowing smoke um this really really concerns me and
I've lived on this bay for 24 years and um they're the companies that are producing the chemicals and selling the chemicals are are helping them out that's why they're going to chemicals first and that's my opinion just
straight out straight out say that okay i appreciate all the research you've done i've since it was presented to us have done a lot of research on this and I look forward to reading through Okay what you've come up with and can you repeat your name i'm sorry i know you're Edgewater Drive uh Edward
Rockwell 488 Edgewater Drive perfect thanks and my email address is eddy rockwell@gmail.com is it in the packet anywhere it is not okay e D I E R O C K W E O L
feel free to ask me any questions shoot me an email perfect all right thank you appreciate you thank you all right orno please do you want to come up quick oh I think someone else Oh sorry oh uh yeah come on come on up
if you have a Sorry I was moving on all right give us your name and address pamela Jananish 1591 Eagle Lane okay there is a property at the corner
of Wood uh Woodland and Heron that has been an eyesore mouseinfested eyesore for a couple years i contacted the city a couple years ago nothing happened several of the other neighbors contacted the city and
nothing happened there is new fairly new homeowners next door they have contacted the city repeatedly and just recently when they finally told the city they were moving the city said "Oh we're going to escalate
it." Well it's too late this is a nice couple their house is pristine and I know that if any of you lived around this house you would have done something a long time ago it wouldn't have taken years there's no
reason for it to take years i in fact I'd like to see a show of hands from the city how long would you wait months year two years before you did something it's It's ridiculous and and like I said now we're going to
lose a nice couple who keep their property well tended and this is ridiculous and there's other houses along this route that could use some work and I see city
trucks driving around all the time i don't know why these people can't make notes of properties that need attention but I'm assuming they don't so I have a suggestion i think that there should be a log created for the
complaints that come in and I think that it should list what the complaint is and what is going to be done to mitigate it and when that's going to start and I think the city council should have to look at it every week
because there is no reason for something to sit for years and this is why mound is known as the slum of Lake Minnetonka because nothing happens you don't see it so you don't do anything
so Pamela is the address is that 1643 I think so the one right on the corner on the north side yep okay when's the last time you talked to the city about It's been several months now okay but it was Well
no it's been maybe a month okay you want to say anything about it uh no other than that it's one of several properties that are in process right now um escal I don't know remember exactly
what the escalation was i'm assuming it's one of the several that we've referred to the city attorney or possibly prosecuting attorney but um I can't speak for any other ones or why or if ones are being written down by staff um but I think they should be I think that
there should be a list and I think that it should be reviewed periodically because this shouldn't h it shouldn't take years there's no reason for it to take at least two years and maybe longer before anything has happened so that is something that we have looked into and I don't know if
our attorney wants to say anything kind of level on that but um we're trying to uh fix the blight in in our communities right part of it is in the past this is probably before most of us were on here is that you get a complaint we'd send
them a letter maybe send them another letter maybe another one and then we just give up and again that's just that was that was the practice so we've we're trying to put a little bit more teeth into it partly that's why this guy is
sitting next to me uh because we're trying to trying to do that and again I don't know if you want to say something quick but it's pretty hard to just fix a problem overnight i mean it does take some time so even a month that's not long enough unfortunately and I
understand that but when nothing happens nothing happens for years that's so even in the worst scenarios that we've seen even on council the last couple years um and a lot of you guys have probably driven by them um properties that we
abaded and everything and we have to go through the whole rigomeroll with attorneys and back and forth and the county and it's it's it's a process unfortunately and we're trying to dig a little bit of our teeth into it to say we're not stopping so if either fix it or we're going to
figure it out or bait it or fix it for you and that's what we're we're doing so do you want to say something quick yeah i mean the typical process is for um staff to take steps and measures to try to work with the property owner to
um come to some resolution with the goal of self self compliance so that they'll work towards it um if that doesn't work either it's going to be I'll be brought into to try to come up with a way to
help push him along it may go to this the prosecuting attorney which is a different attorney um um if it gets to that point this property doesn't sound familiar to me so it hasn't made its way to me it could have made it to the prosecutor usually typically it's right i I think that's
where it is okay so what happens with when it goes to the prosecutor um then the typically if it is something that's going to be going through the prosecute first of all the the prosecutor has pro prosecutor
prosecutorial discretion um but it would be a criminal complaint and then would go through the process of that trying to either you know if they're found guilty then it would be um a court order to take care of it okay but even in the best case
scenario if they they're non-compliant how long does that take if it has to go through this whole system well I mean let's talk about example of what we just did on commerce that that took that's a little bit different it's an extreme example extreme example but that was years upon years three years
probably it could have been three years at least and probably longer than that but I got involved and it still was even though we had a had a court case against them it still took what a year or more to get that we baited the first few months when I was on council in 21 okay
and we just wrapped it up this fall the so that's three years but I I do I mean the direction from the council has been to I mean first part is that we work on a the city works on a complaint basis because if complaints come in and then do investigation it sounds like that
that has happened already and then um the council has stated their desire to have more teeth into what they do so that that's there too so if it's if it's in I would say it sounds like it's in process um
it's been set up to the prosecutor and whatever that time frame is it depends on uh really the courts yeah and that's been the problem in the past especially be even after CO was long over it's still the courts it just takes forever
um but how long does it take to start the process well you first of all and again some people don't know this you got to make a complaint i know you did but some people don't even know that they just drive by a property that they hate for years and years and years and they're uh blatantly violating code but
then no one ever calls about it nobody ever does anything about it but this had multiple phone calls right so again if it's you know in the recently here um we Jesse refers it to um our uh field
inspector which is Andy Drilling and then he takes care of it again if it gets you know if they're non-compliant it gets out of hand then it goes to the attorney or the other attorney so once it's in the system unfortunately sometimes it just takes a little bit of time and that and even if they're just
don't want to do it they're like "Too bad we don't want to do it again." Then that whole process takes a long time for us to actually for you to see anything different most people just say "Yes oh my lawn's long i'll go mow the lawn i was out of town for a month." You know whatever
well this is a health concern and Pam is this a rental property or is it owner occupied it's owner occuper occupied and Jesse we have it on the list you believe and yes and and I will say too I mean sometimes they get referred other
places i mean one of our first calls is usually to Orno PD because sometimes they might be involved in one way or another i mean there's a lot of trying not to step on each other's toes in that too but um I can assure you there is a log because
uh complaints are part of our it's a data retention thing so it may not be organized in the way that could be easily digested but they are kept track of too so and we're trying to sort of ramp things
up too try and get creative and like the mayor said ideally people you know get the letter or something and they just fix it i I know this one there's some others we're working on too that are just um I would say stubborn property owners
but um the process can take Would this be a health department issue though if we've got rodents running around it can be i mean that that's another one i mean so another good example was the um the Dove one that actually came to council six
weeks ago or two two months ago um that was we included uh the Henipin County Health Department and they were they actually just lifted their order and that's been a really successful one that was a property owner that was more compliant so yeah so we we would refer
to either either prosecuting attorney or city attorney health department um it's it's it's it's I'm making it sound more complicated than it is I think just because there's you it sounds there's a lot of moving parts but um yeah we we
try to cover as many bases as we can so I've talked to Andy Drilling many times about this about just communicating with especially the people that do make the complaints to make sure that they're involved and hey we got it we're working on it if it's been a couple weeks been a month hey shoot me an email hey we're
still working on it is this this and this um I know I've specifically talked to him so can we just make sure you reach out and just make sure she's kept involved with you know what we can obviously disclose right that's a good point sometimes there are things that
especially if attorneys are involved you can imagine it gets a little bit more private but in general I think we try to keep the processes public so we can do more of that too okay so can just maybe by the end of the week can you have him
follow up with her thank you and I you know I understand that time is a thing that's going to happen but it just seemed like nothing happened for years and that that was the problem that if we have to go through
all this rigoral and we wait two years to start it that's two years that that are lost and we're we're sitting there looking at it day after day after day yeah i mean this is the first time I'm hearing about it so clock starts today thank you yep
thanks we can appreciate your frustration especially in a complaint based city when you make a complaint and you have no followup um so I know that Jesse and the team have been making really great strides and trying to reach
out to everybody so we appreciate your frustration thank you part of my concern is too this may have occurred I don't know Jesse before you got here a possibility for the delay okay it did so you just follow up with our place
that would go a long way I think thanks ma'am thank you thank you hey give us your uh name and address my name is Jim Tyson i live at 1295 Elwood Avenue i'm in that crossover
between Orno and Mound my mailing address is Mound my school district is Mound i'm a proud graduate of Mound West Tonka High School 1974 what What city are you in we're I'm in Orno orno okay i am here to speak on
behalf of what Ed spoke to before me i did not know Ed prior to a month ago but we are like-minded i am working on the same issue in opposition in Orno okay it has been a long ongoing battle i
think people have been well intended uh I think sometimes they want swimming pools in front of their homes but they have to realize this is a lake and that weeds are a natural thing that are going to happen there um there are many things I didn't come scripted so I'm going to probably regret not saying some of the
things I wished I would have but a key point that came across on Monday's meeting I was at city council and I would encourage you to look at their archives there's a lot of information there regarding the lid
process um Eric Evston is with Lake Minnatonka Association he is the one who is spearheading this with different resident groups eric was speaking in front of council on Monday night and when they learned that there was a petition
significant to stop it in Forest Lake the council asked Eric what happened in Forest Lake and he said I think they just lost interest i don't believe that is a factual statement what in reality I believe
happened is very similar to what Ed is presenting to this council there's a lot of information that is not being presented by those people when they're trying to get this enacted the liabilities what the county can do with
your money the chemicals that are being used on and on and on so what happened in Forest Lake in reality is the counter petetition in opposition when people realize those extra
facts nearly 50% 46% of the people that signed that petition flipped from signing the original petition in favor of so my point is is that given all the facts people have a different mindset
and I hope all of you looking at those facts objectively helps you to make that decision in an objective form it's not an easy issue so I I know you're going to be faced with it here again in the
future i listened in when Harrison's Bay Association presented this to its council this council and that's the same message that I've heard over and over i've been to two similar presentations in Horo just like you heard and Ed
brought to you different information and I hope you take it to heart thank you thank you appreciate it thank you all right got anybody else want to come come up all right hear none orno please you want to come up quick thank you Mayor
Council uh not a lot to pass along the um going through our uh crime reports and stuff uh nothing has really peaked at this point uh activity is picking up because the weather's getting better but everything's still on the straight line
so other than that there's just some things that I was asked to make sure you guys are aware of is uh Spirit of the Lakes committees are starting to work now in conjunction with our officer Schultz uh to start planning and get things rolling so that's on its way excuse me
um Our Lady of the Lake and Officer Schultz asked me she's going to be sending you an email mayor um 9:00 a.m friday morning uh dear graduation at Our Lady of the Lake Church or school so she'll be sending an email this Friday yeah she'll be sending you an email to
remind you she wanted me to apologize that she forgot to tell you so yeah all right i'm out of town but All right I'll let her know appreciate it so um speed trailers are out in full force now um they are spread out throughout the area they what we typically do is um at the
request we put them on a list and we keep moving them around as much as we can we don't have the resources we don't have a bunch of them to put out um and uh they have to get spread out and used so they will be out and about in different areas if there's an area that you guys have an issue with you let us
know as soon as possible so we can get you into that rotation so that we can get them back out and uh cuz that they won't we won't see them in the garage till probably September again because they're out there even being used so uh and then other than that uh our PD
started our training season so today was our annual qualification for firearms so we're going to be busy now for the next few months uh with all our training and getting everybody up to speed so other than that there hasn't been much else going on for now so Okay does council
have any questions uh thanks for coming out to coffee with a cop um not you specifically but but you're you guys um how many cops do we have like 10 maybe eight to 10 yeah seven or eight something like that so anyway appreciate the car um so they all
look forward to it um you probably won't see our night guys but you'll definitely see our day guys pop in and say hi at least so than that all right thanks again thanks all right we got uh Henipin County Commissioner Heather He Heather Eden presentation you
found us uh good evening everyone it's good to see you all you too um yes I I was uh I was across the street and I was calling the mayor and I'm texting him and I'm like where is I don't understand where the chamber is so um one of those moments uh great and hello to everyone
here um my name's Heather Eden i am the Henipin County Commissioner was elected um I had three elections over the last year um to get this job which no one knows what I do but hopefully today my boy my whole goal is I'm going to all the different cities i represent 16 of
them um so hopefully like let you know a little bit about me uh tell you a little bit about what Hipan County does and let you know that I'm your partner at the county and that I have your back um and to the point that the resident that was up just up here and you had mentioned Henipin Health um or a Henipin
environmental services just make sure like loop me in if there is an issue you need help with if you feel like you're not getting a response from the county too i want to make sure our residents are I'm having your backs um as well so um just a little bit about me before I go into this i'm going to be quick i'm going to try to be quick but just
prepare it's about 15 minutes um so I three boys i live in Edina don't be mad at me i know it's far it's not It's just this like competitive thing um I live in Nine i have three sons i have twins that are 15 i'm teaching them how to drive which is a whole another feat in
parenting right very stressful um they're not doing that bad though uh and then I have a 12-year-old who is um super competitive i also represent Hopkins he's a basketball player and he is like I cannot believe like I've I' I've like harmed him in this process so
um All right this is the district all right here we go so um each each commissioner in Henipin County we have 1.3 million residents and each um of us Kevin Anderson and I both represent Mound um
Commissioner Anderson had a conflict tonight um so I'm covering for both of us um unfortunately we don't have I don't know if we have his picture next or not but we'll see um but so both Kevin and I of the seven commissioners on the board we both have 16 cities so
that's 16 city councils way more than all of our other lovely colleagues so um we once a year you'll hopefully be seeing me um we all represent about 182,000 people and you can see right here a little bit about this and I was
just looking at some things that are close to mound and just thinking um and I'll talk a little bit about this more but I know the West Honka Library um is closed and up for renovations we're really doing a lot of work there the North Arm project which is Spring Park um our public access to the lake um that
one is we're undergoing feedback and process so if you have feedback on that please let us know um and my email is right there at the bottom um the other thing I just want to mention as I'm looking um at at just where we where Mound is is
just thinking about I've been telling all our Lake communities one of the things that Kevin and I just worked on is adding another water patrol um so the sheriff's department LMCD um the conservation district was having to fund raise about 72,000 annually to have an
extra water patrol and we were able to figure out a way to pick that up um so we reduced that significantly they'll just be paying for overtime which is about $20,000 all right so let's go to the next slide so you'll see that Henipin County
has seven lines of business health income justice education employment housing and connectivity you can go to the next slide you can see our budget is 3.1 uh billion and we had a levy increase just this past year of
5.5% we tried to keep that as small as possible um I think counties and cities ac across the state of Minnesota um all 87 counties were struggling with trying to keep it low but I just want to give uh residents and and the council a little bit of a a picture of what other
counties were did for their levy increase ramsey County was at 4.75 they were the only one I think that was lower than we were anoka was at 16.9% levy increase that was a big one um Dakona County was at 9.9% levy
increase and Washington County was at a 5.9 so just for uh reference people have said "Well why for the increase?" We did have labor negotiations we Henipin County has 10,000 employees it's a lot of employees we do a lot of work we're very big whether it's transportation
human services um or other projects um Henipin County is a large county and so we looked at negotiations for wages henipe County is a good employer and we also wanted to make sure that we were paying a a livable wage and also covering costs for healthcare um and we
also had an issue where HCMC hospital um uncompensated care is rising across the country this is not just in Minnesota but our county hospital is struggling and and they are a wing of us and we had to pick up some of the costs there so uh with that said you can go to the next slide you can see a little bit of the
pie here it's broken out um I just like to note that uh if you look at human services and health the 42% of our budget uh is health and human services it's actually why I decided to run for this job prior to this role I was in the House of Representatives for six years
and then prior to that I was an outpatient mental health therapist and I was in clinic and and seeing how things just were not working and that's what led me to run for office um but you can see how the other things are broken down capital improvements uh is where West Taco Library is public works is where
you're seeing all our transit projects resident services most of the libraries are in there um human services health which is a bulk of our budget disparity reduction and then law safety justice uh next slide so human services uh the one thing
I just want to point out with this slide I think is the biggest issue right now as we're in the legislative session coming from the legislature uh there are huge cuts being proposed to waivers so waivers are something that the county uh everybody has to come through us it's an entitlement service everybody if you
have a disability is screened once a year now imagine that once a year you're screened every year you might have a disability into perpetuity it is not going away but every single year you have to go through a min choices screener where the county says okay we
verify that you are disabled and um that is a federal law the state then we once in and the county has to administer and say yes we've done this we've done the screening this person qualifies and then we go to the state so this is why people get so frustrated with government right bureaucracy but the issue is is right
now the state of Minnesota is saying they're going to make some cuts whether it's the governor's budget the senate budget or the house budget they're all bad for henipin county and they're all bad for taxpayers and henipin county so I just would ask you as you're thinking about the next four four weeks I'll be I
have a newsletter I'll be doing a call to action um if they pass the cost on to the county we have to somehow figure out how they people with disabilities have to be covered it's a federal law so then the only way that if we cannot cover it it gets covered it gets passed to uh property taxes which is one of the most
regressive taxes by the way so um I just would say sorry I'm going to highlight that one and we can focus on the other things later um but mental health services we also do child support um and child abuse calls vulnerable adult calls uh and I worked actually as a guardian
light up the Henipin County Juvenile Courts when I was just in my early 20s another way that I first got involved with government um economic supports those are cash benefits SNAP EBT um food assistance childcare assistance housing support all of those you've seen
that have grown i don't have the 2024 number on there but it actually finally has leveled out so we're not seeing growth anymore which is a positive we've been doing a lot of preventative work and trying to figure out how we can stabilize the numbers you can go to the next slide so Hipin County does a lot around public safety that people don't
really think about we uh supervise if you just go to the bottom of the the slide 22,000 uh adults and juveniles every single day henipin County probation is in our building the big H downtown i don't know if you've been there been called for jury duty courts are on one side we pay for it because by
state law we have to provide a space for the courts the county pays for it though just making sure everybody knows that um so county liaison we're working with law enforcement um we one of the things that we have is the embedded social worker up the top i know uh Orno who's providing
um policing for Mound but also I think uh oh gosh there's like two other cities they do it i apologize you guys it's been a long day i'm not going to be able to remember tonka Bay Minnetonka Beach I think um so but COPE is our our crisis response team and then we also are
building um a 24 um sevenh hour uh crisis facility in our 1800 Chicago building so kids that were going through our system I think you've heard the news stories over the last maybe year and a half two years especially when uh youth crime was going up um the kids just
cycling through our system we need to have spaces and places for the kids and so we're partnering with other counties but Henan County is in the process of building a crisis unit which will only have about 15 beds but we need them uh but the embedded social worker is at
Orno and uh it sounds like it's working out really well so next slide and and I didn't say it but PAP uh we have that that building in uh Plymouth and it's our 911 call center which does all when you're calling 911 nobody thinks about who's answering the call that's actually a county worker on
the other line with the sheriff's department county funded um answering your 911 calls diverting you to either um your EMS service or uh or to to the Orno Police Department um okay so these
the sheriff and county attorney are both duly elected on their own i just wanted to highlight a few of the programs that I think are really good that both of them have um the partnership with the water patrol today we just um we just approved funding for um the drug task
force with Orno as a part of that uh and the crime lab which I just saw last week with our interns for a day we had uh one Orno student um I need to really build out by the way I have an intern for a day program i did it at the cap um I brought 600 youth from high school to
the capitol uh over my six years at the capital um I started that at the government center and this year I've had about I think it's 53 students it's wrapped up for this year but if you could tell if you know West Tonka high schoolers about this program they spend
one day with me they get it to put it it's a nonpartisan internship on their resume and I will write them a letter of recommendation for university i honestly can't I can I literally think I've written almost 300 letters of letters of wreck so nonpartisan looks good on their
uh so share the word on that one um be at school program is looking at truency we know that truency if a child is truent they're probably also committing a crime that just correlations there i was on public safety at the capital are really high um and victim services today was really fun we had um a dog a service
dog come in uh not connected to our counties uh county attorney's department but we also do have a service dog in our county attorney's department which I met and he's very nice so uh next slide and I'll just highlight on this
one we have a shelter all policy so no child sleeps outside in Henipin County if you do ever see anyone and there's a family and you're not sure sometimes there's signs people asking for money um if you want ask them if they have a place to sleep at night and I will give
you my cell phone number you can call me i will if you don't if they say "I do not have a place to sleep at night," call me genuinely I don't care what time of night um I It's really important that we enforce the policies that we have and that they're not just feel-good sound good things let's make sure kids
actually have a place to sleep it helps our community as a whole um we have the repair and grow program which is the result of a metro sales tax which we passed at the legislature when I was there that's about 20 million annually for Hipant County and were able to invest in things like the repair and grow program which will help with
affordable housing right now the um affordable housing developers are very instable uh the market's obviously unstable getting investors is is not the best time and so trying to think about ways that we can be supportive is work that we're doing with the repair and
grow program developers like AON I know have participated next slide and Henipin County we have health highlights there um the board disagreed with me i was the only vote that actually wait hold on maybe it was it was actually Kevin
Anderson and I we disagreed that we wanted to keep the ballpark sales tax extension the top um of right now the the again I told you about uncompensated care at the hospital so we're putting the board brought forth a resolution to
try to do a directed payments um which is a Medicaid increase uh agree but the federal government I don't think is going to approve that right now and the ballpark sales tax would have been a pretty much guarantee if we could have got it passed this year i don't I I still hold doubt the last four weeks of
the Minnesota legislative session anything can happen um so we'll see what happens there um we have an EMS working group which I know you're not really necessarily impacted by because you guys don't have Henipin EMS services but if you haven't we're offering to all council members hopefully did you all
receive um I offered we're offering a tour of the medical examiner's office coming up in June if you haven't um I maybe will bump that in your email have my assistant do that we'd like all council members if you haven't seen the medical examiner's office to come and see uh the medical examiner's office
people don't think of it as public health but it is it's where when you see somebody there's a homicide on the news that's in Han Penipin County that person's going to the medical examiner's office when we had the pandemic and the outbreak the people are going to the medical examiner's office um so just be
thinking about if you'd be interested in that i'll be sending out county tours i would love you guys to know about some of the facilities that a lot of people just don't see on a day-to-day basis um and with that I've already talked about the mental health response so next slide at the capital I was the chief author of
the Read Act uh which is um changing how we do literacy in the state of Minnesota based on phonetics and the science of reading uh we are doing a lot of literacy interventions here in Hipang County i'm really proud that we're in 16 different libraries now my hope is that we will be at West Honko Library um
doing tutoring services once it reopens um we also just nobody thinks about it but we help with schools in the way of if there is a student in need we can help provide in families push in services to the school to make sure the family is being helped um so if you ever know of anyone always reach out to me
and we can make sure that we're getting them help we also help with the social social worker funding at the schools next slide so resident services uh libraries I mentioned to you we have 41 libraries 10 are in district six i would say some of
the best and service centers Ridgedale Southdale i will tell you right now getting Real ID there are lines it is terrible it looks like one of the council members knows i I think I've gotten multiple emails a day on this um and we're trying your best i will say if
residents are experiencing a hard time getting an appointment email me i can help or email commission Anderson is there any possibility of getting more service centers at one time when they you know started talking about our library we did ask could there be a
service center put in the library and we were told no uh but some service centers are privately Yeah operated correctly um or yes council member they are absolutely yeshm we could put a kiosk maybe like I guess
we should connect on what services you would like to see at the library right now i have to be honest council member we're really concerned about funding so we won't be adding a lot of anything right now outside of what we've committed to and we're looking at how we can be really cautious with our dollars
um unless it's going to help people it would just really make a difference i mean you know um like for me with limited transportation to get my real ID or a passport you know getting to
Ridgedale is not now I think there is something in Weisetta that we can go to but um it would be nice if on this end of the lake we had something i that's a really good point and um I will mention and this as we kind of look at what we're doing in the future if there's a
way to do some sort of partnership um it's it is expensive to operate them but I I do see your point in terms of accessibility and it's well noted well okay um all right so we also people don't think often of counties as helping
with elections but we do we provide when you vote while your lovely city provides the staff um we are als we are providing the machines that you vote on and we are also picking up the ballots we certify the election uh election integrity is really important to us we are doing
assessment services so um if there is an assessment on your property how much property taxes you pay for um and you'll be assessed um for the city uh in the the school and the county those assessment services are done through our
office through Henipin County and so um come to us with uh with what it will look like if there's an appeal or if you have a question to what that assessment looks like um and with that you can go ahead to the next slide trying to keep on time here you
guys i'm sorry it's a the county does a lot so public works and transportation i um there are multiple projects that I know um Mount has uh coming up i have just some notes here um I know West Edge
Boulevard uh we have that project there is also another uh transportation project where it is where is it here uh Lotus Drive to Bartlett Boulevard as well as Auditor's Road to Sunnybrook um
there might be more but that's what I have on my notes um we also Mound's trash goes to the Herk as last time I checked is that still correct uh city manager right i think that's right you're Yeah you're just I'm pretty I'm pretty sure I'm
right just now just works right yeah so Herk is the the um it's the the center downtown it's the recovery where we all your trash it's the incinerator um where your trash goes now we're trying to figure out a plan to close that um and we have a lot of different variable
moving parts to what that's going to look like um what I potentially would like to see us is is phasing it out and what that looks like more as just as somebody that's worked in public policy I don't see the clear vision of what it looks like yet and so we'll be following up more with that we also have uh
actually we'll go to the next slide we also have community grants so tree canopy is something that is um an environmental goal that the county has in terms of climate change making sure that we're doing work there um so please apply for those the more trees that we
can have i really would love to see District 6 get as many of these grants as possible as and we have the youth activity grants business recycling grants so I'll be um my office will be on a tour this summer of meeting trying to go to some of the cities and some of
the senior living facilities working on some of the business recycling grants i've seen that that's a good place but if you also know of others that that could apply please do and that is it council members that is the end and I'm happy to take any questions does council
have any questions i have one you just spoke about the her the garbage yes why why are you wanting to phase that out and where will our garbage go that is a great question council member um there was a vote that was taken before I was on the council or be excuse me we don't
call it the council we call it a board um that we would be closing it by 2040 uh and what I will say to that is I don't know where the trash is going to go which is the problem that we have i will say that I get a lot of pressure to
make a vote to close it now but I've been in public policy long enough to know that creating a crisis is not a good idea around trash i mean you look at what's happening in New York and and and they have their own like struggles right in terms of rats and we don't need that so how the amount of that people
are consuming is going up so the amount of trash is going up so how do we increase um work with the the um the state to increase composting work with um local cities to do that as well try to increase recycling but the reality is
is we have to figure out places for trashes and they'll go to landfills is where they'll go and none of them by the way we have not one landfill in Henipin County so the answer to that would be to close it down alto together that seems illogical the answer the answer is to
close it down and that's what that's what the vote has been it's it's the process of how do we get there i will say objectively coming in from this as a policy perspective that I do care about the environment i would just um I I find it hard to believe that a a
lot of us would want an incinerator in our backyard either right so I do have compassion there i do struggle with where the trash is going to go though and that's that's the problem that we're in right now so there's there's pressure points of I want it close now but there's
360,000 tons of trash that are burned in that incinerator every year it was a bad location for it quite frankly when they first built it and in fact it impacts the people who live in North Minneapolis who have high rates of asthma and other respiratory diseases so it's it's yes it
doesn't make sense to close it down just but right now it's impacting the health of people who live in the nearby community and actually every time you go to a twin state you're subjecting yourself to that air so would the plan be to like to that's
absolutely right acknowledge that like an incinerator be elsewhere in Henipin County or just not have one i don't know where we I council member think that's a great question i honestly think that we need to have conversations about I mean some of the climate leaders I mean I was
on environment when I was on the capital i mean I think I think it's going to be complicated that it can't just go to a landfill we have to figure out ways like there's anorobic digesttors um so what that is essentially is this big machine that we would send trash to and then it
would compost it in down but that's again assuming that we can compost some of that material so we're trying to solve on it i don't maybe the answer is another incinerator but who wants an incinerator in their backyard right i know I live in Edina and if you're in mound would you would residents here be
opposed to building one you know right over here i I'm pretty sure they would be because of exactly what the council member said is is the what does that do to the air so we're it is a it is a very challenging policy problem that we're dealing with
another challenge I'm curious is to what is the county has the county looked at the cost and staffing for all the elections you know in the last two years we've had sort of ongoing elections we're finishing one and getting ready
for a primary and then a primary and then another election um which means our staff um and in our staff it's one person really who gets the help from some of the other staff uh really gets burdened with a lot of of time and the
prep work and then setting up the voting booths and monitoring the voting so what are we going to do because it doesn't look like we're going to have less elections uh we can't they Thank you council member there's there's nothing the county can really do to that point about elections i mean for my seat
specifically where voters had to go and vote three times um it was really expensive that election cost a lot of money so it cost the taxpayers I think it was like the rough estimate was like 350,000 so we probably should have people when you're when you're in your term when you've been elected serve your
term because when you don't especially for 16 cities it was really expensive nonetheless it was not fun for me i'm just going to say it wasn't fun um but it was it was hard and it was a you know that's a challenging for every single city i've heard the same thing it was
they had to staff it and it was challenging i wish I could say that won't happen but it's that's how the the election process there's no one sort of looking and reflecting and thinking about is there something else we could do uh the only thing I would say is to
try to have when people want to resign from their seats is have them resign on an election year so that we don't have to re double staff because that was really unfortunate because it was a special election and then there was um yeah there was yes it was it was not fun
i there's nothing honestly that we could do about that though so go ahead sorry oh so I will say uh you put put together these breakfast uh meetings and or just even meetings with
the mayors in the in your area and I've been to a couple of them so I appreciate you doing that um that was one of the the topics that we talked about is that our staff is getting burnt out with elections and and that that kind of thing now again I was speaking for a
mountain and what I thought we would want is that we want to keep it local like we don't want the county doing our elections we want to do it but we want money from you from you guys to help to hire other people so and you knew that and and and I think that was most of us agreed on that there's a few cities that
said just outsource it to the county you know as you know but um we were not in favor of that so and again it sounds like you don't have a lot of money going around but if you can find money that we can help you know find other people to pay that would that would help us yeah I
think to that's a good for mayor and council member i think it's a good point in terms we can't reduce probably elections there's just no control over that but in terms of the funding um potentially at some point I know that several of the cities have brought that up
um potentially we could look at that in the future but I have to be honest with you we are facing a lot of instability in terms of funding yeah um and just what we can expect over the next year to two years and so I just can't commit to that but that is something for the long term I absolutely will look at with you
okay and just a couple other comments uh so I went over to Ridgale to get my real ID right so I'm flying May early May you know right after the deadline or whatever and I know this has been a thing for like two years you know you should get your real ID of course I didn't but I'm have a July birthday so I
do got to get you know my ID coming up so you know I walk in right and I wait in a little line it wasn't too bad to just talk to the clerk you know to you know see where my number was and you know she she was nice and you know she's probably getting pounded by you know all
the different people in line but um she she's like "Well it's 3 hours you know three-hour wait." I was like "Okay I got my computer in the car i guess I could work from here I guess." Then she and I said "So okay." So like it was like 10 or I was like "Okay 1:30 or whatever." She said "Well a minimum three hours."
She's like "I can't guarantee you three." you know three to could be six you know but it's like for sure you're going to be three so I'm like okay great i for whatever reason I think I have my passport with me because that's one of the qualifications passport and a bill and blah blah blah to be able to get it
and then so she goes "Well you can fly with a passport it's better than a real ID." And so I was like "Oh great didn't know that." Now I still need to get my ID for July yeah but just so the public knows and correct me if I'm wrong but you can fly with a passport you don't not you do not need a real ID now
obviously if you got to renew your We can be like the rest of the world and fly with your passports yeah so I guess I'm that's what I'm going to do but it's correct as long as your passport's today and it's with it yeah you can use your passport but then there's me who has an expired passport well so then I went
online and she gave me a little card and said "Hey go book an appointment." And she's like you know good luck but try right and it's pretty far out yeah and so then I I booked it and uh I I had to go downtown Minneapolis there's the only one available maple Grove Plymouth by
the way Wisetta you can't do Real ID they don't have Real ID so again for us around here we have to go to Ridgale I think is the closest or Maple Grove um I'm I mean I work over in Wisetta so it's fine but um I can't remember is it May or June is my appointment so somehow
I got in a little you know but I I even said "Well am I going to actually get this thing by like you absolutely will not get it by you know your deadline or whatever." So anyway you use a passport so that's good and then if you haven't done it you should probably make appointment or figure it out if you can
find an appointment so it's a mess and if you can't get an appointment email me i'm genuinely serious um and I can maybe help with that uh but it is the lines are it's horrendous you know yeah um uh can you give us a quick update on
the library so I was just you know it's so funny as I was looking for the date because I'm like where where we we we figured out the date when it's supposed to be estimated to be done and I I'm going to follow up with you cuz I couldn't find it right now um and so I do not know it's literally I that's so
funny that you I don't know i apologize but it's going to be great right geothermal solar it's going to be lovely but yeah we need to I thought it was going to be 2027 but I might be getting that one in Southdale confused i I mean I think it was was it 2026 we're working
on it next year maybe opening 27 yeah that's Well that's what I was saying yes 2027 of completion cuz it was supposed to be working on it this year open next year push back i always tell my sons don't speak authoritative about things you don't remember so I don't remember and I need to look i need to look okay
water patrol thank you for adding the the other boat that's great i think that was one of the things we talked about in that meeting as well if I remember right yes yes um send them to cooks oh right cooks Bay there's a lot of jet skiis and there's little cars that look like jet skiis that cause trouble people that
they don't know how to drive a jet ski or run a jet ski at all yes and they just fly around and hit people so tell them to stop over to cook those are electric bikes right oh my gosh oh that's a whole another electric bikes that's uh And then the last thing is the
striping we're we're doing all these resurfacing you just said that um I don't know if we're doing anything on West Edge but we're doing it up to West Edge so it's I don't think West Edge is from West Shoreline to West Edge oh okay okay but anyway all this uh resurfacing
is is great you know and and that's going to be in our newsletter by the way uh for this you know it's going to be a little little fun this summer again um we're going to have some It's just going to be a lot of work it but the nice thing and correct me if I'm wrong again I heard from Bolton the Mink that once
this is done all you know all this uh piping that we're doing under underground and this and that once we're done you guys resurface we can't touch it for 5 years i don't plan construction projects for five years yeah so in other words according to So we're going to we're
going to go through a little bit of problems here this summer we're going to get it done you guys are going to come over we're going to resurface it everything's going to be great and then for hopefully for five years you won't see any roads being so can get our bike lane striped um okay yeah we can check
into that so and on the striping thing so like if you're going down like uh from from our main you know stop light and you're going to Caribou Coffee right so you know hardware store to Caribou Coffee and again this is maybe temporary but this is you know engineer brain
probably not mine yours um there's a straight stripe straight line it's not striped so for whatever reason we're not striping lines to turn anymore and so it looks like you're breaking the law to get over you know how they say don't cross this line and again maybe he can
say something about this but um we've reached out and I think Jesse on my behalf has reached out to the county or I don't know if it's your your group or his connections but um when we actually do restripe this for for good we need to do it the right the first time and not
do solid lines if unless I'm wrong and that's a new standard for roads so what road is it just so I know that's just one example there's many of those but uh it's shoreline shoreline okay right so and as you're heading east from
just our main stoplight right in town there's well there's two of them but that's one of them two caribou coffee if you're going taking a ride into Caribou it it looks like you're breaking the rules because you're going over the solid line and I think that's just going to confuse people okay that's just one there's I mean I'm just saying like the
whole while we're striping all this let's make sure we put turn lanes in okay mayor I'm gonna I'm gonna follow up with you on an email on that probably tomorrow just to make sure that I I understand what you um what it is and then what we would prefer the result to be um good and then and then um
Commissioner or sorry Commissioner Council member I'm going to follow up and see if there's a way that we could put Real ID at Weisetta yes would that be better oh my god yes because maybe maybe that is closer and and that won't require too much um so let me let me
look um and see into that um that would help the whole West your whole West community okay okay good yep I got those quickly brian were you going to say something how about Are you still trying to find somebody from the county to join you for ribbon cutting at the
small crosswalk oh yes uh we'll get we'll get we'll connect with you we're going to do a ribbon cutting at the our new crosswalk that took us a long time to get done and so I was like we're celebrating this thing it was just finished finish like when it was really cold in the fall so I want to like
officiate so we'd like to invite you oh I want to come um are you going to wait till the lights are up the lights are I just stopped for it today the really if you push it they were on there since the fall but Okay okay i haven't not We're not doing the blinkers
they're blinking of course no one's ever been there not in summer you You'll see you'll see them cuz they're going to hit the button not on 110 but on 15 on 15 so we appreciate all the you know help that you guys did on that one um Okay two
years of that was before you obviously but anyway thanks for I'll still come to the ribbon yeah please come we'll we'll figure out what day it is your help when we put in our bike lane yeah oh and bike lane that's what I'm sorry thank you council member you said bike lane and then where um bike lane just on We want it to go around Lost
Lake so continuing um from our little league field what is that wilshire Bartlett Commerce okay i'm going to I'm going to email about that as well okay all right go uh did you have one last
thing i I cut you off earlier no no no uh well you covered the West Edge thing um I know you mentioned the waiver services and that issue and I know it has been covered briefly on media but in a very limited fashion which is very
confusing um I think it would be helpful if we could kind of communicate that a little bit more in detail um because I see a sense that that is going to cut your budget dramatically or increase your your liability um and what other areas are we
considering that we're going to have to cut how do we be realistic about this because I know the taxpayers and I'm sure everyone in this crowd is pretty much sick and tired of our taxes going up which I realize is not all you but what else is on the chopping block what
are we going to cut council member I think that's such a good question if I had the answer to that right now we are looking at everything and quite frankly um we just don't know we don't know and we're trying to I I guess there's four four
weeks of the legislative session so I'm hopeful still there that we can come we have um Jody Wentland who is one of our county assistant county administrators um working with the governor's team and the house and the senate trying to figure out and let them know just what
that impact looks like i mean for Henipin County it's big it's really big i think the Senate version sends us 8 million in the first year but then um the House's version the governor's version I know puts uh 33 million to Hannipan counties alone just us right
we're one of 87 counties um so people aren't going to that's not acceptable right it's it's a federal law also with state requirements that the county has to administer um and it's interesting as a lawmaker I used to always hate like unfunded when people said unfunded mandates and now I'm like "Oh my gosh
this is like really unfunded mandate you guys cannot do this to us." But also it's just it's not it's not right for the people for people that that count on those funds we've got to figure it out and they shouldn't be the enemy in making sure that they're taken care of so it is I don't I if you're not a if
you don't get my newsletter please sign up i know I live in Edina but I have everybody's back in mound in West Honka and Haka Bay um please think of me as your like surrogate member um because I do want to get to know people please
invite me to parties i I that way I can I can make sure you're reading my newsletter so that I can make sure I'm doing a call to action this isn't about partisan politics it's about what we can do for people and I'm really um so sign up for that i'm going to be putting lots of info but we'll also I'll be at the
capital bugging my former colleagues like please don't do this i'm I'm hopeful that we have a another solution coming but other cuts I do not know and I'm worried okay thank you all right any last questions all right thanks thank you for coming out thank you good to see you oh and
really quick just my cell phone number if you don't mind me giving it to you and that's for everybody here if anybody wants my cell phone they're like I don't want a county commissioner cell phone number um it helps when you're in the wrong building it it does help when you're in the wrong building um my cell phone number is 651
785 8696 and um and please do sign up for the medical examiner's tour um Jesse I don't know if you would want to send it did you get that i got it okay good sign up for that i think it will be interesting it's on I think June 2nd so
um it's an I've toured it it's good and if members from the public would like to see some of the county facilities also email and reach out to me thank you so much thank you thank you all right number seven we got public hearing mid code i'm going to let Scott jump in right
away and set us up and then we have a presentation for uh Thank you uh mayor and members of the council i just want to give a quick kind of framework of what how what we're doing here tonight um
so the city received an application from Midco for a it's for a franchise for cable communications um and once that application came in um and I think it's and the materials
provided to the city the the city with worked um and negotiating with Mid Code the franchise ordinance that you saw is that's in the packet and just so you know what a franchise is it's a means to allow a utility such as a cable TV to be
citywide in our rightway and in our uh public grounds that we can think of it so there's like um instead of somebody who's in front of a house and wants to get into the rightway maybe to connect to water and sewer this is being within
our right away throughout the city again this helps create a unified plan and procedure for both the city and for the franchisee um to work through issues of where's you know plans of where it's going to be how you going to put it in
and then fees and cost and those kind of things so what we're now that we have worked through the ordinance what we're having tonight is the public hearing on the franchise itself um and then under state statute it we have to wait at
least 7 days for the council then to to adopt the ordinance um which would bring it back to two weeks to the next meeting so tonight is the public hearing phase of it so with that in mind
so we do have a representative from MidCo i I don't know if you want to see that first and then open up the public hearing and uh we'll just close it i will fire that up for you here all right can you give us your name and address great yes absolutely um excuse me my
name is Ellie Burroughs i am the government relations manager for Midco i cover the state of Minnesota um would you like my my home address just your work address work address yeah so we have a corporate office based out of Edina Minnesota and then our um main headquarters is Souf Falls South
Dakota um so Mound and Midco I am here to introduce Midco i'm not sure if any of you have heard of us um we are going through a very large expansion into the West Henipin area and Mound is on our list and we're very excited to be here i have to say on a personal note I've been
able to spend a little bit of time out here i've been um become a member and been going to meetings at the Mount West Taka Commerce Club and um getting involved with a few other groups and um I have to say it is quite impressive to see the folks of Mound they appear very
tight-knit um I've enjoyed my meetings at the Commerce Club it's been really fun to see the speakers come in and everything you guys have going on here so um Midco is certainly excited to be a part of it um I wanted to introduce my colleague Jason Saxs um he is with me as well he is the general manager of our
field operations excuse me so if you have um individuals come out to your home from Midco to help hook you up or you have issues um he is the man in charge of that uh so Midco we will skip the video we'll just keep on keep on going but uh we are a cable broadband
provider we are looking to expand uh fiber services to every location in Mound um so we are planning to do fiber um we offer cable television um fiber internet and telephone services um you
can kind of see some notes on there 247 support no data caps um all that fun stuff we can go to the next slide so just a little background on Midco we were actually started in Minneapolis um our founders in 1931 created the Wellorth Theater Company
they wanted to the dime that it costs to go to a movie to be well worth it and that is something that we continue as a company today um kind of moving through the timeline they opened the first television station in South Dakota in 1953 and then from there technology has
taken off and um they got into the cable television and internet game um starting in the '9s they started to use fiber to hook up um cable services and kind of took off from there in 2021 um our company leadership announced $500
million fiber forward investment and that is um in our existing and growth footprint um to invest and upgrade our network um with the the fiber and just um continue to grow and expand into our footprint uh so currently the M uh Midco
fiber network you'll see 17,000 fiber miles um wonderful uh guaranteed stats and all sorts of 247 monitoring for our customers um just a few of our service awards that we've received um service
operator of the year and fast speeds and reliability um employer awards and and things that we're just really proud of and we we like to share with others um so with our Midco customer support as I mentioned Jason um is our general
manager and there's a stat that we like to talk about so um we provide if you're one of our customers we provide a 15minute window um for a tech to come out to your location hook you up if you have an issue um and we are within that 15 minute 15minute window 97% of the
time and that's something that Jason is very proud of and of course our whole company is so something we like to share um as I mentioned Midco community involvement is a is a large ethos in our company um I've personally been able to get involved in your area here and then we have the MidCo Foundation um and
through the foundation we're able to pro provide awards to local um nonprofits schools um things like that in in the areas that we serve so um I know we gave a large donation to the We Can Group out here and they do some wonderful work out
here so we're happy to do that go ahead next one all right so a little more details about what we're looking to do for Mound so um proposed service area is all of Mound um that is hopefully kind of encompassed on the map there um
right now our estimates are 2,196 locations um 133,121 ft of fiber and our estimated completion is by early 2027 we are hoping to have that actually be the end
of 2026 as soon as we can get started we would like to um our construction um will definitely be done in 2026 and then working on lighting up quick question yes of course uh that's not all the houses is there a reason why
um well half oh the 21 the 2100 passings i will dig into that because we are certainly planning to serve okay all of Mount i will dig into that and make sure we have our numbers i mean some of them might be apartments but households
there's 42 to 4,500 okay um I think single family houses there's at least three 3500 okay if not let me let me dig into that we are certainly planning on surveying okay so you're the whole thing yes definitely the map yes the map is
where it's at um all right so a little bit about our construction process uh surveying the area is of course how we start that is something that our team has been busy out um in this area doing for the past couple of months um designing it and and walking it out
and and getting a sense of the area and where where placements of things will go putting the plan into action um that is kind of where we're at now um our construction teams have had conversations with your wonderful public per uh public works departments and um
we are trying to open you know avenues of communication and make sure everybody is um got questions answered and and those communication lines are open um and then we would hopefully plan to begin construction um and with that
process our notification system from our construction team um we want to be of course open with the city and um anybody who has questions regarding our construction process but with the residents as well of course that we understand that it can be disruptive to neighborhoods and homes and we want to
minimize that as much as possible um so we have notification systems through mailers um advertising trying to notify residents as much as possible and then a couple days before construction will actually begin we will have our teams go by and actually do door hangers um on
each location and and on all of those notification items there will be a phone number that actually goes directly to one of our construction leaders that's on the ground in that neighborhood so that if somebody has a question has a concern there's somebody on the ground
um that can remedy that very soon um that's something that we of course want to um do as much as possible uh splicing and activation um that's to the part where we're lighting it up and and people can start getting service
um so we're excited about that next one and then installing midcode you know part of our notification system is we do encourage folks if they are interested in getting our service they can go to our website um we will have um a special website for this area um in our fiber
expansion area and they can sign up for pre-berry services so that when our construction teams are initially going by if they know that they want our service um we will get them hooked up and ready to go so that as soon as the service is live they will be able to um have our
service all right and kind of went into our notification strategy but um that is um key of course to our construction process so I mentioned kind of the construction notification and then as well as we do have um
midco.com/hello um that is our fiber expansion area folks can go in um there's a lot of FAQs regarding the construction process what to expect pictures um and then they can enter their address and get an idea of timeline of when services will be available when they can expect to see
folks in their neighborhood um and then of course contact information and that's something that um we would be happy to work with the city on to make sure that you guys have the answers that you need um if you want to post it on websites or newsletters we would love to provide that for you to just make sure that you feel like um your residents are getting
that timely information from us um so in our construction areas you will see those yard signs up um our our contractor trucks and yard signs we want folks to know that it's Midco we don't want people wondering who are these people in our neighborhood so we try to make sure we're labeling as much as
possible so people are aware um just an example of the website that I mentioned i'd be happy to share that with the city um we do have operations in Minatrista and um as a close neighbor I I wanted to share that i I think it's
been a positive relationship there so we're happy to share that all right and that kind of wraps it up if there's any questions council have any questions for Helen yes when you're laying the fiber are you laying that in the uh piece of the your
property that's you know sort of the city and how disruptive will that be you know for people's gardens and things like that yep so yes so it will be underground it will be um it it will be slightly disruptive as we're getting the fiber into the ground
um but our our job and and something that we take pride in is kind of that that fixing it process making sure that homeowners feel that the yard is in the same shape that we came to it in is our goal
thank you do you tie into the box that's already in most of our yards we would if you want to come up you can come up give us your name a tech a technical expert hi my name is Jason Saxs um no because
that is property of either Mediacom Frontier Central Link not sure who's all in your area um we have to install our own pedestal or ground vault so it depends on the neighborhood some of them are vaults that are you know low to the ground or whatever we use both
types of construction depending on the neighborhood so I think they're doing this over in Mitros now if I'm Yes yeah so they they're most of it's under the ground trenulous right yep and then it kind of comes up so does it and it hits everybody's yard it's a lot of directional boring is what you're
referring to so instead of a plow coming through and leaving a big plow mark all the way you're digging a hole on in one spot and another hole on another spot and you're shooting it under the ground so you're not seeing the disturbance except for the two holes where it comes back out yep yep are you going to be
letting residents know if your yard is going to be one that's going to have one of those vaults in it um yes they'll be staked and flagged they may not know if it's a vault versus a ped or whatever because it's in the rightway it's actually the city's
property that we're putting it in but you know a lot of those vaults if you drive around the city they're crooked and they don't look very neat that's one thing that we pride ourselves on is when we're doing that we try to do that as straight as possible of course in time I'll defend Mediacom or the
other companies here ground settles things shift and they do get crooked um obviously if that's something that becomes an eyesore or is an issue we'll absolutely come out and fix that so as a city can we request a vault version rather than any of those towers um yeah
is that not feasible i mean it depends on what we're putting in some of it has to be above um we can you know take into consideration vaults in certain areas as you know we live in the frozen north though so my team's not a huge fan of
vaults because they're not as easy to find when there's they're not although we didn't get any snow this year so it wasn't too bad but we will do vaults and and if someone has a concern we can definitely do do vaults so okay uh and then do you tie into every single
person's yard or only as they sign up so we are in front of the homes or business and once they sign up then we bring it to their house so we don't actually bury into their property until they've signed up with us or as LA pointed out earlier
they can pre-register um using that website and they can ask to have a pre-berry and we'll bury it before we activate services so then it's already ready to go at the side of the house so if I don't sign up but my neighbor signs up
i I mean how do you tie into like your main system it's out at the curb in the rightway so if if you guys split say a property it's we're going to bury from the rightway into her property and not yours each one's going to get its own
individual drop from the rightway okay so you're going to kind of hit all the main corners yeah the whole town and then as people sign up you're going to correct push it right into their property yep got it okay um Yeah oh uh fiber versus cable is that
a thing uh that is a thing and we we have we actually have both throughout our company because historically we were a fiber coax company when we build new which is what we're going to be doing in mound we build 100% fiber and why is
that better um longevity and the the um what fiber can do is still it's um still it's the best okay so like for me like I have Mediacom uh for my internet yep so
that's come from from a cable i see it right it's coming into my house through cable so the fiber could potentially be faster so So cable has come a long way and we'll I'm not going to do talk down on cable because we provide it in many of our cities but one of the hindrances
is the upload speeds so even though it's come a long way right now the most you might see is a gig symmetrical on a cable plant like a mediacom um they're probably not quite there yet on theirs um with our fiber that we would install in mound 10 gig symmetrical right out of
the gate um and scalable to 25 gig symmetrical which is unheard of numbers I never thought I would have heard in my 25 year career but it's it's something that fiber has the capacity to go much much faster and as you know as we
consume more every day um those speeds are so so I I see your your pricing sheet here if there's all different levels anywhere from like 30 to you know 200 bucks but Like if if if I just want to like stream
Netflix and you know do what most families probably do right yep watch some TV do this and that i mean what number like 50 100 250 500 one gig what what do you recommend usually people get so each on our website we actually kind
of go through that based on like it'll say you know what size is your family right what do you use it for is you do you have kids that are gamers are you you know streaming multiple things at the same time um you know typically for the average household the 500 by 500 or
the gig by gig is a very common package okay but can people get by with our 250 x 250 package i know the internet provider I have which isn't us unfortunately where I live um I do 250 x 250 but I it's just my wife and I so um
we we're not using quite as much speed so but there's the scalability and you know we do actually have people in Minitrista Greenfield as a city we did not long ago um with our 2 and 1/2 gig package that they are utilizing it
because it's not necessarily you sitting at your computer needing 2 and 1/2 gig that's most most devices don't even have the capability of that right now but it might be you sitting at your computer three kids and a wife and you're all
using devices you're now splitting up that two and a half got it okay so all right that's all I have for questions I guess see you guys in the questions for um Mr lansman but Okay well I think we're good for you guys and then we're going to
do open meeting here wonderful thank you thanks my brother works for um Mid Coat down Well he lives in Oatana but out of the Rochester oh really great and he thinks it's a great company uh do you want to do your question oh
was there anything on the franchise agreement that just caught your eye or not knowing a lot about that well I I it's been heavily negotiated um but the it's I mean this kind of I I guess I
could summarize it real quick yeah I'm just I know there Trista that's great i was just wondering if there was anything that you saw yeah it's basically it's right now it's a 20-year agreement um there's an ability that that have you know that we can um if we get to a point
where um after that 20 years we want to extend it we can if not that's fine too um the the rates that are the way it works out too the rates really are are charged by a company are subject to to the FCC
the city can if we want to can regulate those rates but we're still going to be subject to those FCC rules so it's I don't know if we want to be in the business of it but there is that ability if it becomes an issue that we can the city can get involved um
the so the way it works out too is that the city has the ability once they're up and operating to obtain a franchise fee up to about up to I believe it's 5% of I think I don't know if it's revenue or what they charge i don't have that in
front of me but the idea is that that franch they're going to be they're going to probably be coming in um during this 20-year period to disturb right away and do other work um they're still going to have to get permits but that franchise fee will take the place of once it's up
and running of any permit fee so there's there is that revenue stream coming in um interesting is that they have to commence their construction within 200 240 days once the ordinance is effective but it sounds like that's not going to be an issue but there's a time frame and
then there's also a in here about they have to construct at least I think it's called 50 plant miles per year so there's so there's actually benchmarks of what they have to meet at as they're doing this initial construction
um we're going to be providing insurance to the city identifying the city for the work they're doing that's part of it um there's also something called a security fund the security fund is a letter of credit provided to the city and so if they are violating if there's violations of the of the ordinance I'm sorry the
ordinance um there's there's penalties are involved and we could draw from that letter of credit to pay for that for those penalties and then they have to um replenish that amount
um I talked about the franchise fee um about early termination h early termination or they call it transference well I what we have instead of that because similar to I would say similar to like when uh teleunation
telecommunication company comes in they build a tenant on top of a water tower you know they they look at these long-term leases really to recoup their cost so I figure it's the same way okay what they that's why they put this liquidated damages or this letter of credit in so if there are violations there's an ability to provide a penalty
to them um um in there so I don't I don't remember offh hand really termination but I think that's there's a 30-day yeah okay i think I I think that that that you know if there are a point where there and I and I feel like this is what commissioner I don't want to speak out of terms because I don't have
that information in front of me um and then let's see there is requirements and they do this that they have to have a company will maintain a local toll-free or collect call telephone access line
which is available 24 hours a day 7 days a week somebody's going to either answer or be available to respond um and it's it does say a trained company representative um how significant of a revenue stream
if it's waving permit fees and I don't have that information but this is standard throughout like I I was say part of the start of this was the looking at other materials that I was able to provide to put this help put
this franchise ordinance together and that is a typical the 5% it may be it must be required but under the FCC rules or the state statute has that 5% in there But you know I just don't have information okay on it but I don't think
our permit fees are that high either um enough on it and then they're also have a requirement to to provide us the ability for we can have local programming
too so that's kind of a hope taking uh 20 p 21 pages and trying to summarize it but it's uh it has it has protections i mean I will tell you this is this agreement is pretty similar to what you're going to find in the other cities too these are pretty uh pretty
standardized um it does provide the city with c certain rights but it think of it this way it's it's similar to like a lease where the tenants going to have their rights but the landlord has certain rights too to make sure that they're complying with the rules and regulations and that's kind of the situation they were in here
thanks yeah and is a 20-year agreement pretty standard um that seems really long well I I the the the idea behind it is so that is the recouping of cost and similar like said like telecommunications those sometimes
are 20 plus optional tens there's this one doesn't even have that option after it has to come to an agreement okay but to do to do it so I I didn't see 20 as something with with with the amount of investment being made i didn't see 20 as
being out of bounds all right any other questions for Mr lansman all right i'm going to open it up to a uh public hearing you want to come up and say anything about this subject come on up give us your uh name and address
my name is Helen Candy at 5926B Road y um I know Comcast owns 49% of the company and I'm just wondering if this is a way to get Comcast in just a genuine question i'm all for competition but my personal experience with Comcast
and their customer service ranks really at the bottom level underneath no airline service so that's one of my questions is that okay we'll we'll ask them when they come back up thank you just to what we get 20 years of that it's like um and then the second is today my yard got ripped up for fiber so
I didn't know about it at all I've got the punch holes all around my yard at the top of my driveway for fiber uh on beachwood uh they're just flagging for No they're digging they're laying fiber and I didn't know about it so in two years am I going to get another punch to
Jesse is that fiber or is that the pipe there is somebody is that water if it was fiber then it would have been another provider That's what I'm So every time a franchise comes in am I going to get a yard ripped up and I don't know just something to consider from a good question household perspective i know they're doing the
water mans on Beachwood i know but these are No these are fiber yeah I mean they've been up on Ranger doing it too they're That would probably be Frontier then doing work um they've had permits pulled but they should have done that when the water was I mean it just seems like my yard is going to be ripped up
several times anyway that's that's not the point my point is Comcast is really what I'm worried about owning 49% of Okay thanks thank you appreciate it anybody else want to come up all right hearing none I'm going to close the public hearing do you guys want to come back up and tell us about
your Is it 50/50 or is it 49 49 49 comcast is strictly a financial backer okay um they have no controlling interest um we are privately owned not publicly traded okay operate we operate
solely separately um so yeah okay all right so if that were the case though too that they would Comcast would need a separate franchise agreement anyway and all that stuff i mean this is just I mean I guess tech they could buy you out but that's
business i mean it happens this would be our franchise because you're correct comcast would have to get their franchise they are a separate company for us okay
all right thanks yep appreciate it thank you all right back to council um do we have to what we have to do or do we have to Well there Yeah there is oh no there's nothing to do at this point so okay but
um I just want to it was brought to my attention and I should note this cuz I drafted 1064 so section 11 which is on page 1064 of your materials deals with transfer of the of this of the franchise and it's just says the company shall not voluntarily or
involuntarily sell assign transfer lease sublet or otherwise dispose of and hold or part the cable system or the franchise uh without the prior written consent of the city um but it does say cannot be unreasonably withheld or delayed um but there's no consent for
transferring if they get a mortgage um transfer directly to or indirectly owned or controlled by the company so there are some caveats but basically um if there's going to be a transfer the city is going to be able it has a they can't
do it unless the city approves it okay um the franchise and I and if and if for some reason Comcast or Expinity wanted to come into the city separately from Midco that would be a separate franchise okay all right so is there anything else
that we have to do on this or is that that's it oh sorry um the answer is no because this was a public hearing to gather information and then this will come back before the council within two weeks for
um another for a not public hearing on the ordinance um where motions and discussions can be made got it okay and at that time too we'll provide a uh I gave it to Maggie already i already drafted a resolution for summary
publication too all right thanks Ellie and Jason appreciate Thank you all right so we'll go on to the next one we got number eight council introduction review discussion with Colin Charleston owner of 5581 Old Shoreline Drive regarding interest in
purchase purchasing Outlaw via Mound Harbor we got Jesse up mr mayor members of the council I'll be very brief yep this is a council introduction i just wanted to remind this the city council that there's been no technical review of this this is simply an introduction of a
project that Mr charleston is going to present to you in uh probably about 10 seconds and um if you're familiar with the area that's at the corner of Old Shoreline and Commerce i think we're all very familiar with Colin and his uh property but I'll get out of the way just wanted to get on camera thanks
thanks welcome can you give us your name and address yes uh Colin Charleston the home address 5749 Sunny Brook Lane um I own the State Farm Agency excuse me on Three Points Boulevard and 110 5560 ThreePoints Boulevard uh councelor
councel and uh mayor thank you for having me tonight again um I wanted to be here two weeks ago um I said in my letter that I was somewhere way more fun and I was so but thank you so much for having me tonight um I just want to give you a little bit of background um and
then can you share the documents that I provided on the screen for those in the room as well um so I've been a State Farm agent here in town for 15 years so for those of you that don't know I'm a small business owner um speaking of franchises I'm not a franchisee of State
Farm but I'm an independent contractor um I have eight full-time employees six of them live um in our communities um I have two remote employees one in Hawaii um he recently moved um but we've been we've been calling Mound home for almost
16 years um I've been in the same office location that entire time uh as you know I've been looking at this property for quite some time and what to do with it um it kind of fell into my hands um with the prior developer who I was involved with as a user tenant um and they
offered it for sale to me at that point um that was about two years ago uh summer of 2023 it's hard to believe um after much deliberation um I wanted to try and preserve the building that's why I bought it um it turned out to be very
expensive to remediate um things like lead asbestous and mercury from the building um I did not know the Lowers personally um but I wanted to try and preserve its heritage and history for the community unfortunately the remodeling costs were in excess of $1
million for that property um ADA access became an issue at that time i presented to the council to acquire a portion of Outlaw Beat uh for ADA access um thankfully due to the long process that council put me through it gave me enough time to really think about what I
was doing um and it allowed me to get final bids on all the projects for the for the property and it became really evident to me that it was a very poor financial decision to move forward with the remodel um the city of Mount had made an offer uh to me for the property
um I decided to decline the offer because it was only a portion of Outlaw B albeit a very good offer one that I wasn't comfortable with for the future of Mound uh my wife and I are very bullish on the community um this is our our home um we live in Menitista but
Mound is really what I say where where I'm from i say I'm from Mound um I live in Nine Iron from Mound we've been involved in our community um I was part of starting the West Hockey Community and Commerce uh which is kind of our local chamber um and we've done a ton of things in our community and our staff is
also very involved um I'm not a real estate developer i'm just a dude that doesn't know a lot about real estate um but I see a huge opportunity in our community um I'm bullish on the future of Mound for several reasons we have worldclass education here weston um
schools always ranked some of the best in the state we have some of the best private schools in the state um we're improving our facilities at the West Public Schools they're now underway if you haven't driven by the high school the North End looks very different um they've already begun tearing the
portion of that building down to remodel it we have a premier recreational lake in all of the world um and it's a really awesome asset for us we have amenities like recreation the Dakota Trail Three Rivers Park Surfside Beach our parks in our community um we really love our
community we've also had recent explosive growth in our habitational uh arenas as we call it in my business um homes developments like our Tessa Lake Minnetonka Flats Woodland Cove which is in Minatrista but they do business in our community often i want to give those
people more reason to come to our town that maybe don't already and finally our downtown district could be even more walkable than it already is if we had the amenities to provide for it um I wanted to try and do something to
kind of keep the history and legacy of that site intact um with the mixeduse district requirements um so this is an overlay of the site um this is a proposed 8,500 foot building uh 15 uh parking spots in the rear of the
building 10 on street parking spots and keep in mind the public parking close by as well um this is designed to be a class A retail office space um I would personally love for one of the tenants to be a a restaurant coffee shop cafe
user um but it's a challenging business environment for that type of an exposure right now um this uh location would house my office as well about 3,000 square ft um in the announcement um I pointed out to Jesse there was a typo um
it was said 3,000t building 30,000 is my footprint i'm out of space in my office um I have a couple of employees working from home because I'm out of space um I'm here tonight really for feedback um and I want to know what you
guys want um and that's for people both for and against any project there um and I guess I'll open it up for questions if you want to flip forward the next slide has a rendering um so this is an L-shaped building it's not perfect because it doesn't really show
110 but it utilizes the minimum and maximum setbacks 10 and 20 feet um in the prior slide you can see it's kind of set right in the middle um and that's a rendering of something that we've been working on so open up for questions feedback and
comment thank you thank you does council have any questions for Colin i do um is this unless I missed it somewhere is this 110 or is this um old shoreline 110 is uh 110 would run here and this is old
shoreline got it so Lost Lake crearyy to on the end of that building basically correct okay all right yep what's the um the the like black is that just like an aesthetic break um yeah correct yep okay same one building yeah it's uh in that
design is actually a um evis panel like a concrete panel and then so your space you know is like the 3,000 square foot kind of on the corner how many other spaces are you envisioning would be in there one on either end so a total of three uses total of three yep and then
the parking is So like the building it's like the parking is right behind there um parking would be accessed on Maring and then there's 10 on street parking spots on old shoreline oh yeah like the the front would be like those diagonal spots that were put in last year yep okay
exactly why did you choose the like layout that you did um to best utilize the space um to be quite honest it's a financial puzzle um I need to get about 8,500 square feet rented to make the
project work um it is very expensive to build a building today um and to make the rents justify the investment in the project I need about 8,000 to 9,000 square ft and so that's the best way to get the layout on the lot while
utilizing still the frontage for visibility for the business uses is part of the um I'm asking because I don't know like is part of the financial puzzle like the reason why you didn't envision like a second story as well yeah to go up is is also expensive yep
okay um and there's also some additional setbacks at at the third level um you know in a perfect world I envision that entire block being redeveloped um as one unit but right now that's not an option um and then that would change
I think the outcome of what we would do with that project um but right now it's that's the project I'm comfortable with from an investment standpoint there's just a lot more risk the more square footage you put into a building from a tenant standpoint
thanks yeah thank you do you have a timeline in mind of when you would like to do this yeah I mean I'm I'm ready to roll um I'm working on some final estimates and build costs with some subcontractors working with my general contractor um I'm also doing some
additional site survey work um this falls in the Minih High Creek wershed district um so there's some hardcover things that we have to work on as well um we have a lot of that data from prior work I've done um and our engineers have looked at it and we're working through
that as well okay um but there's a lot of upfront cost just to get started and a lot of process oh yeah jesse can you go back the slide to the I guess I'm a little curious on what the intention is on the back up where it
backs up to 5575 shoreline the crearyy mhm that looks like a very strange strip there what What's going on there so the the lot itself is not exactly square right so it's kind of deceiving and it's not perfect this is just an overlay on
an overhead shot um the the building that was there um was the craziest thing it actually touched the Yeah the garage was really It literally touched it um and so you know there's and I've been in communication with with the neighbor there um and he's supportive of it you
know he's got a unique situation too because he doesn't have any lot outside of the footprint of his building right um so he uses our parking lot for a dumpster and it's fine um but yeah and again it's where do we fit the building and you know where there's some work
that would have to do on on the setting of the foundation itself that's why I'm just curious because I know he just recently painted that building um and I did speak with him this afternoon because I was curious what kind of setback or rightway we need to allow that i'm not sure i'm not a
developer either but what the terminology is but how do we make sure that your building isn't too tight on his building i realize that's your land i understand that but um how's he going to get to his gas meter and how is he going to paint the building when he needs to paint it here yeah no there
would be absolutely be room for that yes i don't know what requirements or ordinances we have around that there's setbacks for that like I don't know what they are but they're different than residential sometimes it's like zero lot line but like I mean you make sure that there has to be room to access stuff that's what I'm asking and you know what what does
that look like you know for the planning commission you know what can they dictate there that allows that to be feasible for the crearyy as well as you know your building yeah it's a great idea like maybe a future concept would be a walkway like a sidewalk through there or something um right but yeah
absolutely i think that's a great point i mean I don't know how you solve it but I'm just saying I think we could have an issue i mean this is long term so we don't want to you know impose on either one of you but if we can come to an amicable agreement to make that workable for both entities that would be I
recognize that you know this is just a preliminary drawing but um all your street presence is on shoreline commerce is our main street what would you do with those those um sides of the building in this one you have just one
window and a blank wall what do you mean by street presence Sherry sorry well I'm saying the right hand side of the the right hand side how how does it appear as you're walking down the street i often go to what used to be the Dakota and sit there and look across at this
site and say "Okay what is what does this look like?" So are you saying like signage or access signage um the attractiveness of the building back to you know I would 100% agree that that is going to be the most visible side of the
building absolutely y Yeah um and so it would appear just as it does on the left you just It's not as good of an angle but yeah there'll be signage um and visibility on on commerce as well absolutely i guess part of my concern is
um I was always disagreed with um the way we allowed the drugstore Walgreens to build right you know because basically it's the back of their building facing our 100% commercial corner and so I you know I don't want
that same mistake happening at Shoreline which used to be our 100% corner back in the old days when you had to do the sort of Z through downtown well keep in mind that's a county road yeah I know to so there's not any on street parking and so
it's a tough place to access the building from the front and Walgreens has a similar issue because they have county road 15 and 110 so the access really has to be behind the building um there's no question it's a challenging site um and Outlap B itself
is very strange in the way it's shaped um and you put these two together and you just get this kind of funny square shape that's not really square um but yeah I mean that the the frontage on 110 is critical I think for a user those of us that own a business want to have
signage um you know relevant or not to walk in traffic it's a good visibility thing so absolutely but access off of 110 for a commercial use like this is going to be challenging just because they're not parking there they'd have to park around the building to walk around
front to go in i mean you actually have like with the parking behind it and then the on street off on street parking right there i mean there's plenty of parking you know how far back this might be a question for you guys too but like the
setback like just looking at the overlay like you said the aerial view of the side of the building facing 110 how many how many feet is that uh this is set back at about 15 currently so that would just be I mean I know it's a county road like right away
would just be green space i realize yours are in gray but you can pass this around the red lines are the setback minimum and maximums oh okay okay so 10 is the minimum set back um 20 is the maximum currently
you've got it drawn at the 10 foot minimum right the white um so the white part represents the again it's not exactly square so at one point it might be closer to 10 and the other point it might be closer to 20 so it depends how that really got laid out but yeah
because 110 and and old shoreline don't meet at a 45 degree angle you get this kind of weird shape also I assume in this access to your parking will be off of Shoreline will there be an access to my parking will
not be off of Shoreline it will be off of Marian okay so where drive right past the crearyy and turn in oh okay just past the cremary turn in right across from our Tessa okay could you I mean I'm certainly not a design expert but to
Sherry's point aesthetically can you put a window or something or open that atrium kind of area from your front door to make it appear more open to the street side this is like because I agree with her walgreens it's it's you pull up and you're looking at
nothing a faded mural yep yeah so he actually has a lot of anyone would have park i'm just trying to think through things that we could address here before you get to planning yeah thank you for that did you think about rotating it so the p parking is in the front or no no
you don't have parking i don't think he has room to get the sidewalk around there i think is part of kind of the reason like why is What's your point then well like how Walgreens is the way it is like that is kind of the same way it's like you get the most and best use out of the
space i mean it's kind of designed to be put the parking behind it so you don't just like see a parking lot and your business is set back so you know well you also run into issues with the crearyy when you do that as I just think out loud um because as the building runs
north and south you end up with that shorter lot line on the far east side of the property if you set it back in the southeast corner what was your comment with Walgreens i guess I don't know well with Walgreens
it's you you come into Mount You're at that stoplight and you're looking on one side you see the restaurant and the patios you look at Walgreens you see a commercial building with blacked out windows just Okay so it's more about the windows versus it's more about the
presence of you know your commercial corridor okay i thought you wanted the parking in the front no no I didn't want the parking okay good no does this in this picture there's three windows down old shoreline is that actually the crearyy and then your
building or is that all your building it's all your building yep that's all one building and the other side would look identical to it okay so this drawing on the right side yep technically it looks like there's one thing there but you're actually going to have it'll be a L yep exactly equidistant on each side and then the
creamer you'll see that building on there and then our test in the back correct yep i was hoping to get feedback from you this is a first iteration um and my architect wanted additional funds to add the additional square footage to the south so I said "Well we'll start with this." I mean like the feedback I
was just asking questions before just to learn about how you got to this i mean I like it but it'd be cool to see you know I don't know like other iterations or maybe just like the layout is good like the building there parking in the back and then um I mean it was on our
priorities list as like a few of the sites that we were like we want you know residents said they want something built here you know yeah and I I have some uh larger developers in my pocket that are super interested in doing something but they can't do it without all of the
assembled properties it just doesn't make sense for them and the height requirements and density requirements make it really hard to do anything else um you know and it this is a a highest and best use of the two parcels together in my opinion um I think it's hard to go
much more vertical than that um so when you said you have other you know other parties interested with you and stuff but like this is like the best use that you found for these two parcels yeah absolutely it gets really hard to do any habitational type of risk there
or exposure there um just from a dollars and cents standpoint i mean you slam some condos town homes or Lord help us an apartment there you know um it would it would just be really challenging site for that expensive residents and other
businesses would like more businesses in town so I mean this is and that's just it like literally tell me another class A office space in town i can tell you there isn't one cuz I've been looking for 15 years and they haven't shown up
we have no user friendly office space in town and these would be you know specialized users attorneys accountants financial planner um my agency um you know those are the type of users that are going to use the office space and I have this wild hair that I'd love to see
another breakfast place there or a place to eat um I think that's a bit of a pipe dream still but I would love to see it personally coffee shop next to the ice cream shop would be sweet well and I've talked to the restaurant tours in town and they look at me and they're like I'm not telling you this cuz it's a
competing business it just doesn't work um I had an interested party that wanted to do a restaurant there that I know personally we did the math on it it just doesn't work for them as the owner of the property it's so expensive to run a restaurant
chipotle in there you'll it'll be a slam dunk you and my son Jason it's not me i just hear everybody wants Mexican theme restaurant man it's like all the time my son is uh homesick today from school and my wife was at soccer practice so I literally ordered Chipotle during the
county commissioner presentations hopefully she doesn't watch this um but yeah I mean a fast casual restaurant um I think that the challenge we have with fast casuals in my opinion as a business owner in town knowing how the economics work we
just don't have the rooftop count and we're not really a drive-through city we're a destination city and without a larger scale development project I think it's hard um just because of what we have in town from a community standpoint
i would love it but could they make money could they make a business work i hope they would but there's a reason they haven't right even if it's not that it's just that there's room for three other you know for three businesses there that's Absolutely and I I mean it's it's interesting when you think about it of that I know of the
McDonald's in Spring Park is the only McDonald's I've ever known of that went out of business no I I know a second one hardies too you know a second one okay there's two hardies and a Hardies and a Hardies Hardies and a Country Kitchen right so but anyway I So yes there's lots of uses that could go in there and
I'm really excited about the project um and I want to make sure it's right for the community first and foremost i was more like honestly most curious about just the you know because there was talk about something that was two stories like a long time ago and I mean I think this looks great and we want to
see something develop there i don't know i had a lot more feedback back i had mostly questions but I was sitting here thinking that the gal talking about the distressed property might be coming to complain about the way my building looked for 6 months um thankfully I don't think there was ever a complaint
filed if there was um thank you for not telling me but um I want to clean this space up um it needs to be something i think truly as a concerned community member and business owner if we get this side of 110 right the west side of 110
is going to get right mhm um and it'll happen kind of organically and it's already started like Minnetonka Flats Art Tessa right um lots of traction on the west side too so you know I think it's this is a step in the right direction um is the development perfect
probably not um they never are um but I want to try and get it as close to that as I can all right so this is our chance uh to give him advice on what we want to see in the future and then if you want to move forward you can you know go to go
with your planning and come back and see us so you know let's talk now so he is guided the right way i guess I don't have it's not even a feedback or more more questions i mean I would love to see something like this there but like what was the runnerup design like what
was your second you know second best choice so this is actually the second best choice that you're looking at um it involves only a portion of outlot B um it eliminated um use of the far southern probably 15 feet or so um this is
actually designed to fit on the portion of outlot B that the city was um willing to part ways with with my original project um and that was the alternative project that came from it um the the first alternative is to extend that and
that's because of the financing agreements I have in place i need to get 8,500 square feet between eight and nine but really 8,500 is a magic number to make the math work i guess one other question i mean I'm sure there's the amount of parking spaces that are there for a reason so if you had it would be
yourself and and two other tenants not three just three total three total like that meets your you know for what businesses would or you know yeah so on the right hand side the parking metrics are actually calculated on this space um at 8,497 square ft um I need one parking
spot per 400 square ft so it's 21 minimum parking spots to park the building okay and I don't know if that made it on your printout it did i I got readers last week so Okay no worries i'm assuming we're going to add some landscaping yep absolutely um
I realize it's not in the drawing but can we have some trees back please yep absolutely or like along 110 probably not along 110 because we want that to be frontage okay right um you know there may be one in front you know somewhere but most of the trees that would be planted would be in the
landscaping in the rear of the building and to provide some separation between my property and the neighbor to the south kind of a natural barrier if you will i think there were several people in the community were very sad to see all the trees come down i was sad to take them
down i had to write the check to cut him down um yeah so can you put them back just kidding no unfortunately um and it was a really tough decision honestly oh I know um and I had to run it by city to make sure it was okay the sidewalk was all torn up i know i saw it it was bad
yeah that um se several of them were honestly diseased and coming apart the big one in front the big oak tree when we cut it down we cut it down on a Saturday when there wasn't a lot of traffic early in the morning it was actually wired together oh wow and it had totally split apart um it was ready
to kill somebody but it was one of the biggest most beautiful trees you've ever seen um I have pictures of my children when they were young and Lost Lake had just opened and we were sitting in that tree eating ice cream um so we had a personal connection to a lot of those trees um and in several of them were so
dangerously close to the building that they had to come down and there was two dead ones so but yeah I like trees i would love to have them well I want to say on behalf of me and maybe the council thank you for even
just taking the building down i mean it was getting to the point where it needed to happen yeah and I know that wasn't cheap um so I I appreciate just all of us driving by you know if you obviously you couldn't remodel it it wasn't going to happen i'm I'm glad you took it down and didn't
wait for all this to to go through that was very uh commendable thank you for that so again I think I think let's kind of wrap it up and then I'm going to open up to to the public um see if anybody else wants to say anything quick about that
and then if depend on what if anybody wants to say anything we might have you come back up thank you very much appreciate it thank you um if anybody wants to come up and talk about this at all come on up give us your uh name and address
please josh Gayen i'm with Minnesota Lakes Bank 2290 Commerce Boulevard here in Mound um as you may be aware uh we are located directly across Old Shoreline Drive from Mr charleston's proposed project uh I'm here tonight to state our support for Mr
charleston's concept plan feel the project would be an improvement to the site uh to the neighborhood and to the city of Mount the project will provide a positive development of the current vacant lot as well as outlot B which will enhance the aesthetics of the neighborhood and provide positive
economic growth for the city of Mount we feel that the proposed building uh fits well in the surrounding neighborhoods and fits in with the other properties and is the highest and best use for that lot uh due to those factors we are in support of Mr charleston's uh acquiring
outlot B and proceeding forward with his proposed project so thank you thank you appreciate it anybody else you want to come up just give us your name and address okay osman Sax
2350 Harbor Place number 307 oh welcome um I've lived in Mound for 40 years yeah and so I can picture all of what we've talked about or old Shoreline Drive and the the dentist office i just uh would like business on the corner it's as
simple as that we are going to have a park a green space that is in the process of being developed you know with our Tessa um I just think we need a business there and um Colin has been in the community
for a long time i think his uh research his planning um goes deep and we need it that's it good well thanks for coming to Mount or Artessa
well she lived here 14 years yeah I met downtown Mound now new Artessa all right anybody else no all right I'll close that uh did you take that email that you received oh um Jesse um did you forward
that email did you Did you want me to just forward it or did you want me to enter it into the record i can do whatever um just Can you read it or I assume so yeah i mean I I would say read it and then have it entered into okay
yeah so just what we're talking about here is we had a uh one of our I guess residents she didn't give us our address but uh so anyway if you want just want to read it yeah just a comment about it
yeah I will be Yep it's a couple paragraphs dear Mayor Holt I would like to provide comment related to tonight's city council meeting but I'm unable to attend in person my comment is related to agenda item 8 regarding the potential construction of a new building near 5581 Shoreline Drive i believe that there are
many other suitable office spaces for an insurance company and buildings that are already constructed have empty space for example RPG Marketplace at Mound 5439 Shoreline and 4581 Shoreline all seem to have vacant office space that insurance company may well be may be well suited
to i would much rather see these empty spaces utilized instead of construction yet another building i would urge Mr charleston to explore one of these existing buildings as an option for his insurance business and reserve a space in the heart of mound for more for more community focused amenity that will draw people to the area it would be great to
see a parcel that this close to the lake and a new park be used for a restaurant coffee shop or similar to encourage foot traffic um an office building will not do this respectfully rachel Funk okay thank you so he'll uh forward that to all council in case you guys want to
read it um anyway so any other last comments on this project um I just responded to her just said thanks for sending it i just literally just got it tonight so um and and I think we already kind of rebuttled
a lot of that i mean remember uh he owns the the property um you know kind of right where the words are there big chunk of that we own kind of the L-shaped to the left and then to the south there so um we would
have to enter in to a contract for him to buy from the city if this you know worked out um you know there's only so many options you can do to build so um like we just talked about restaurants and I mean we all would love that obviously we just
talked about that so I mean he's got to do what he can with with the property and um it's up to us as owning the other part of it if we like this concept and want to see this moving forward so um any last comments between council before
we let this one move on i think so okay just first step and uh thanks again for coming out and I think you you've heard us so good luck in planning if you go forward thanks yep
all right number nine we got authorized to award bid construction for the county road 15 sidewalk replacement project city project number PW-205 sorry 25-08 and PW25-09
good evening Mr mayor members of the council brian Simmons senior city engineer at Bolton Bank uh I previously presented this to you prior to going out for bids and we had a a lengthy discussion on cost splits because this project includes some committed funding
from Henipin County uh I have some good news tonight and some bad news the good news is the lowest bid is less than 50% of what the engineers estimate was okay uh so concrete contractors are hungry we apparently hit a sweet spot in the market here for them uh and so we got
some wonderful bids uh the bad news is actually stay here for a second Jesse so the low bidder the apparent low is concrete idea at $514,300 and they are a responsive and responsible bidder which means should we choose to move forward we feel they're
fully capable of doing the work jesse would you scroll to the next page please so it once we get bid numbers then we redo the calcs on the county participation uh and these things are based on the actual line items uh and
what this means is that uh uh just in very brief terms uh the county is kind of skating away on this and we are still using the basically the full amount of dollars that were allocated in the capital improvement plan on the city side so I just want to make sure we're upfront about that that even though we
got really good bids the county work is coming in cheaper essentially like they're not covering as much they're not changing their participation was always percentage based so we got cheaper bids they're still saying we'll pay certain percentage of your soft costs and those kind of things so we get a really low number they're
only going to cover so much of the engineering and then they're going to cover so much of the construction so we are still close to spending all of what we had allocated so that's what we were expecting to sorry that's what we're expecting to pay in the first place yep so it's not bad news it's just a
percentage i well so to my mind I say bad news because I one might interpret this as we have left county money on the table and my message back to that would be we are unable to utilize those dollars and then the county just you know won't spend them with us but they
did commit to more but also the fixes that we asked the county to participate in are still going to get fixed and we are still we are still leading that charge so we're getting the same amount of sidewalk fixed for way cheaper it's just not going to cost us a whole lot less okay so hypothetically if we chose
a higher like the one in the middle they would have paid more but we would have paid more too right correct is there percentages you make this sound so bad but actually it's not as bad as forgive me forgive me i I come in here wanting to make wanting to make sure I'm
being fully transparent okay ratio so in other words we're still spending what we were originally more or less what we were really going to spend yes and and you all have been so kind when we come in here and I say the little bit is less than 50% of the engineers estimate when I lead with that right I want to make sure that I'm fully transparent on how
much city money we are still investing into this project okay that's that's why I made it sound bad if you think that's where I was at good so anyway we've got bids we've got a responsible bidder uh I will open it up to questions but if there are none there is a resolution awarding this after that okay um does
council have any questions for Brian i do not okay we got a motion or a resolution if someone wants to make a motion page 1078 can do that um I would like to make a motion
uh for a resolution accepting bid for CA CSH15 sidewalk projects Belmont to Fair View and Fair View to Seatin Project PW2508 and 259 all right got a motion can I get a
second second any other discussion all those in favor please say I i those opposed all right that passes all right number 10 we got authorized to advertise for bids for the 2025 street and utilities improvement project city
project PW-25-1 and PW-25-2 thank you Mr mayor members of the council brian Simmons senior study engineer uh what you have in front of you is the next step in the process for uh 2025 uh we're calling this the street
and utility improvements uh technically we are finished with those sort of large projects so I don't want anyone who may have PTSD from long construction in the past or assessments to think that that's what we're doing here again but we have lumped together a handful of pavement things there's some streets and three
points that have not been addressed in terms of pavement rehab there's also the sugar mill area that is included in this project and some uh sewer work so we're lump it all together call it the 2025 project uh there's an update here on the
uh engineers estimate uh which is like $2,000 over the feasibility study cost estimate so um now that we've got the project all designed we have an idea of what we think it's going to cost and we always want to make sure in the interest of transparency we come back to you when
we are also asking for permission to solicit for bids jesse I think there's a map on the next page if there's any yeah so a chunk of trail in Wilshshire Boulevard out on the island and then accompanying and there's a link to the full plans too in the the
packet detailed cost estimates um if there are no questions this one is also accompanied with a resolution receiving plans inspect and ordering bits all right does council have any questions for Brian on this one so these roads are being improved and they will not residents will not be
assessed anything correct okay they're also not being fully reconstructed if that's a that's a technicality you're interested in most of this is what I would call pavement treatments okay especially like Sugar Mill sugar Mill was originally constructed by a developer uh and the
proposed improvement here is a mill and overlay I believe okay so we're going to refresh the top but we are not digging down because we don't have to replace sand and gravel and all that below all right thank you all right i got a resolution on page
1084 someone wants to do that i can do it i would make a motion i would like to make a motion for a resolution receiving plans and specifications ordering advertisement for bids for 2025 street improvement project and the 2025 mill
and overlay project okay got a motion can I get a second second any other discussion all those in favor please say I i i those opposed all right that passes too all right number 11 we got MSA system revisions
mr for Mayor members of the council Brian Simmons senior city engineer i'm sorry i know I'm repeating myself but also I know the video skips to the different topics so trying to be procedural uh this I wouldn't have thought about that this is procedural uh and uh as as you may or
may not know due to a number of factors mound is considered for the state's purposes a municipal state aid community or uh you will one of those you just read off Cass Cah uh some of these designations are really for engineers only uh MSAS is municipal state aid
system it's a system by which the state of Minnesota allocates dollars for pavement maintenance and pavement reconstruction uh and so we have a handful of streets that are in mound that we have designated as MSA routes uh you might not hear anybody other than me
Matt Jesse sometimes Ryan refer to those but we do get money from the state to maintain uh sometimes we get money from the state to reconstruct those but there are also a set of standards we have to follow if we use state funds to reconstruct MSA streets auditor's road
prior to its vacation and now being partially under our Tessa was one of our MSA routes uh and so our funding from the state is based off of the number of miles that we have in our MSA system so what you have in front of you uh a
letter from Matt explaining all of this as well as an accompanying resolution that strikes auditor's road designation from our MSA system uh prior to auditor's road being removed um I forget what the exact number is it's like 8.39 miles or something based on the number
of lane miles and the population of mound but we have an allocation and we were still about 4 miles short in that allocation of reporting MSA we of our designated MSA routes because there was no point4 miles of street for us to add to the MSA system now that we have
removed auditors it also makes sense for us to try and capture the rest of that and so what Matt and I have done is we've taken out auditors and Cottonwood the dead end Cottonwood that comes towards the Dakota Rail Trail and we've redesated some other streets to be part of the MSA system jesse I think there's
a map it just shows what we're flip-flopping here as well as Matt's letter to the uh state engineer making the request annual certification mileage here we go so we're adding Alder Belair
Air small chunk of Eden Road Maywood Road we're switching some things around to make sure that we have captured as much of that as possible while we are correcting the record that Auditor's Road is not only no longer a street but no longer an MSA street so a lot of this
is is purely procedural uh trying to make sure that we're capturing those dollars this does lead to some certain designations but most of these are routes that are likely already being used for trucks and heavy commercial vehicles anyway because they are primary routes i don't think I have anything to
add there unless there are any questions council have any questions no I can tell it's just procedural the resolution that accompanies this uh is required by the state as part of their procedure to make sure that you all have ratified which streets are part
of our truck routes and in the MSA system so we can continue to request those dollars for Is this like an annual thing uh MSA they renew every year but you have to I mean like how do we is just incumbent on us to like make sure we're keeping up on Okay it's one of the
things that we that we do sort of in the background i guess it's it's real boring but every year we get an email from the state engineer that says "Please update your MSA routes." And for the last however many 20 years it's been copy paste right probably 15 because I think we had a big refresh about 15 years ago where we changed some of them around
cool right after auditors road was built all right uh we got a resolution on 1091 someone wants to make that i can make that um I make a resolution approving revisions
make a motion for a resolution approving revisions to municipal state and route designations got for 2025 all right got a motion can I get a second second any other discussion all those in favor please say
I those opposed all right that thank you thank you can I ask a quick question on um then I don't know whose bucket this would even fall into but has anybody we were talking like the first road stuff topic for the the
sidewalks like where those barriers go up oh yeah if it hasn't been mentioned like the one right at right in front of Metro storage where the sidewalk landing is it is like super tight those semis are going to get through
there that's what So that's what I was wondering if it can be looked at or is it that tight because it has to be matt called me five minutes in a car matt called me five minutes before the meeting started he said you're probably going to get this question and he wanted to talk about specifically that it is our intention right now that trucks that
have low turning radius or semis are going to run onto some of the sidewalk aprons and onto some of the median aprons in the interim to make sure that we can get past the water main construction um it'll look a little goofy for a second but also I promise you it's temporary that doesn't mean
that u there isn't feedback that we could do something better with the water mean i just wanted you to know that we are planning for some things that might look a little weird because they're temporary well don't tell Matt I was so predictable it It just means we're doing our jobs thanks thanks
all right uh Council Member Pew do you have any anything report well um Friday morning from 8 to 10 I think it is um Gillespie Center is having a recognition
for their volunteers so some of the council members might want to just stop in and help celebrate the volunteers at Gillespie um other than that I've been at the capital quite a bit mhm um and so
uh Representative Meyers has signed on to the age friendly bill so that's good um and um we'll see what happens at the capital and that's all I have okay sure oh I went to the S 8 to 10 pardon me did
you say Friday 8 to 10 for that I think it's 9 to 10 okay but you know what call them to make sure it's uh this Friday and I did go to the SRA which is
um the collaboration we belong to with about 30 other cities that negotiate lawsuits against XL which we still have a pending one um and the big thing in the meeting this time was people talking
about um that when you're negotiating new contracts with Excel or especially your franchise fees to be careful because have your attorneys check because there is a little glitch in um in the contracts that salesman doing
where they can get out of paying late fees and you don't want them to be able to do that so and that case that we've been waiting for they think will be up this fall with Excel on the right so
all right council member Mackey I have nothing all right council member Kalano um I just have one question um do we have like a agenda or a tenative one to review for the upcoming
joint parks meeting like on the 6th it isn't the sixth right yeah it is the sixth i don't have one yet i'll talk cool you have all the items that we talked about our workshop
maybe there isn't anything additional i don't know unless you wanted to add more things but yeah that was the idea I suppose what we've talked about all right Council Member Heric i don't really have anything apologize i missed the caribou event with the cops i had a
conf look like it was well attended commission fire you want to say something no you can say fire that was interesting at the end um well yeah just just a couple
quick things um first of all ribbon cutting on the trail does you know it'd be nice if we can get us all to come i know it's not going to be perfect if all five of us could show up hypothetically but what I was thinking is if we do it before one
of our next meetings at like 5 and then during the rush hour rush minute well we don't have to actually stop traffic but stop traffic we could just do it right now traffic could break the ribbon but I'm just saying like because we're going to have to be here anyway um I think 5:30 be a little pushing it but it's
just right here so if we all park over at the park and are you guys open to that or park at the I don't know what enough time is but you know we should probably plan for an hour just to be safe a half an hour might be a little tight so I would say like if we if we say five and then just see like we got to get in our cars at 45 and get
over here with an alternate rain date I don't want to stand out in the rain no no no um so again I'm going to be gone this next one but do we want to do the next one after are so are you going the you're going the May 13th meeting
okay so not then so the 20 whatever 26th 26 should we do that sure okay 26th at 5 it'll be 27th or 27th memorial day the 26th oh
so it's the day after Memorial so Oh 27th hopefully people Tuesday yeah oh I'm sorry tuesday i'm assuming Jesse could send us a reminder appreciate that okay tuesday uh May
27th at 5 and then Jesse could you reach out to obviously commissioner both are commissioners actually um can you reach out to Marge Beard at Three Rivers and even if them they can't come maybe they
their staff could come um you know it'd be nice to have the county three rivers obviously and then of course us because the three majors um mech council I know we gave him a tour uh Dr carter if you want to invite
him I would invite our senator and our uh state rep Myers right all the both those people but then also just throw it on Facebook and all the all the other items
um you know we maybe maybe we should even throw that in the newsletter we can yeah just put a little blurb or a little picture of it again maybe i don't know when does the next one go out again well by then
it we're hopefully like Yeah Monday okay um yeah our fire partnership meeting um the two of us went to that uh we had some good discussions uh we're we spent a lot of time kind of
talking about you know the budget or like how you know we're going to come together um so we're going to try to fine-tune that per se uh the contract part we didn't spend a ton of time doing that but I feel like that part's going
to be a little easier now i thought it was going to be the harder part but um it's that fee structure yeah um we're still looking at a JPA not a district um there's only two districts in the whole state uh fire district so it's like a
school district new taxing authority the good thing about if they did that down the road would be it takes it off the city's you know dollar and it just goes right to you know your pro it's like a school district basically but um technically it's not that much different it's just my whole thing and tell me you
guys if you guys disagree but is I don't want anything to do with the district i want a JPA and um I've really made that known that I want to do a JPA only um and uh I think we have consensus on that
that we're we're we're only looking at JPA so um and then the finance committee we met uh last week or the week before whatever it was um again just kind of looking at
like plan B for like you know how are we going to fund this water treatment plan if we want to move forward or not um uh I know we kind of talked about this last time but I think we're going to set a date of July 22nd and it's going to be six o'clock
our council meeting and we're going to throw it in the newsletter to invite people out and say we're we're basically just going to say we're going to you know provide an update and then next steps and that kind of thing
um so not a true like open house because it'll be during a council meeting but we definitely are going to have an open forum you know if people want to come up and say stuff and stuff so and is that to present some options that you've come up with well we're hoping by then we'll know did we get funding this year right
and if I mean even if we do we're not going to get enough right so let's just say if we or don't you know doesn't matter we want to start you know having a discussion with us and then of course if the public wants to join in uh what do we want to do you know are we gonna do this and we're are we gonna take it
on the rest of it do we want to wait another year do you want to wait for mom and dad at the you know state to pay pay for it or I think we got to we got to make a decision one way and I love that you're putting it out to the residents too
that's a great opportunity for them to show their Well and see what the reality is i mean most of them think they're going to turn the water on it's going to be crystal clear in UVIA and it's only going to cost me $20 more a month so there was a community that had a meeting last night it was in the news
about an alternative to their water system one of the ones we were talking about okay people went against it you mean like each having your own getting your own yeah and I can't remember which community it was because I only caught the end of it it was on
the news last night for some reason i think it was in St paul be fun to watch the meeting they didn't yeah um so and and on that again the finance committee is we're trying to with Noah and Maggie and then
of course Ellers as you know before we finalize anything we're looking at you know is there different ways that we can do this um you want to say something that yeah I mean you were getting there so apologies if you were but I think I'm accurate in saying that we so we met on
it like two weeks ago we were going to wait to find out funding and then meet on it again to kind of iron out like uh with Noah like you know good better best or like you know a few options and then we going to even have like a workshop
prior to deciding what we're going to kind of go over a workshop with all of us after our next finance committee meeting to kind of decide what we want to bring before in July yeah so we're kind of all in the same you know
the good better best or whatever so if we do that that's what we're doing right yeah yeah you're right yeah I forgot the workshop part so we'll do that before obviously July 22nd and the reason partly why I like July 22nd is that's right after spirit so we can you know
talk to people about you know the project and have some charts and I mean we won't know you know probably have all the financials because that that'll be brought on the 22nd but um if anybody wants to be a part of or you know let us
know so we're going to throw that in the the paper or the newsletter um that's going out so hope you all agree with that yeah I think it's great um [Music]
and I think that's it do we did you fix the resolution numbers yet or no uh no these were all I think pre pre before that discussion done already yeah okay just this is just a clerical thing
um you know when we do like a a motion right and it's like resolution 25-lb blank right it's just bugged me so I'm like why don't we have why do we need to not have the number right the date or something well it's like you know what
happens is after they'll put a number on it right and now hypothetically you know if if there's any issues you'll have to just modify the number right but I don't know it's just a pet peeve of mine so I said "Well can vote for it if we put the actual number in there?" Like as long as I've
been here it's 25- It's like we're voting on something that's not even like final okay sure so and I think other cities do that right well a couple of things one if there's a m if you have it in there there's a mistake it can be treated as a scrutinous error it can just be modified administratively and
then probably the best part is all you have to do is say "I have motion to approve resolution number 25-01." And stop right there yeah because okay because that's the title so you don't have to go through the whole litany of what oh so there you go that's even better that'll save us all yeah because
you have the the record in the agenda that provides it and if anybody needs to go back there it is okay so next meeting that you're going to run hopefully we can we can do that then and the same thing would be with any ordinance too
perfect that would be great good uh and then again this is just clerical backroom stuff but uh I've also asked to um to sign the documents after so again this is inside baseball but you know it's kind of like auto sign right and I
don't want to auto sign you know all the checks you know the how many checks that we do those will be auto signed per what we already approved we have you know the budget we approved right um so anyway I've asked Jesse after that i'm just going to sit here for 20 minutes just
sign so um I just I just feel better about that so cool that's all I got any other last things cool i'll take a motion to uh adjourn motion to adjurnn all right can I get a second second all right any other
discussion all those in favor please say I i those opposed all right we're adjourned