##VIDEO ID:uosQOCSdWkw## welcome to the mountain city council meeting today is Tuesday January 14 2025 um we are going to open the meeting here and do we want to do the Pledge of Allegiance first yes yes okay we'll do that so if you will rise for the pl I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all all right we're going to do number two we're doing the oath of Officer by city manager Jesse Dixon and you can kind of follow along on there but uh I'll go first and then calano and car right ready right hand raise your right hand repeat afternoon I Jason Hol I Jason Hol do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States I do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States and of the state state of Minnesota and of the state of Minnesota Faithfully discharge the duties of Mayor of the city of M Minnesota and Faithfully discharge the duties of Mayor of the city of Mound Minnesota to the best of my judgment and ability to the best of my judgment and ability so help me God so help me God congratulations thank you I'm going to have you sign this one cool you want to take a picture sure I'm just trying to get the city of M so it all right ch ch all right raise your right hand repeat after me I Kevin calano I Kevin Castellano do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States and of the state of Minnesota and of the state of Minnesota and Faithfully discharge the duties of city council member of the city of Mound Minnesota and Faithfully discharge the duties of city council member of the city of Mound Minnesota to the best of my judgment and ability to the best of my judgment and ability so help me God so help me God congratulations thank you all right thank you do a pick all right on now looking at one okay all right raise your right hand repeat after me I'm Michelle herck I'm Michelle herck do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States and of the state of Minnesota and the state of Minnesota and Faithfully discharge the duties of city council member of the city of Mound Minnesota and Faithfully discharge the duties of city council member of the city of Mound Minnesota to the best of my judgment and ability to the best of my judgment and ability so help me God so help me God congratulations okay thank you have to [Music] all right if you came for that and you don't want to stay for the rest it was nice seeing you all right so we got our agenda so does anybody have any uh amendments to the agenda I'd like to pull C and R just for a quick conversation on each okay and we do have an amendment that was that was sent out by uh the city clerk Kevin last week uh it's the Edgewater Park native uh Native plan Garden expansion to the end of the agenda the regular agenda so the native Park will be T oh that would be in the cons it will be number it will be number nine after Engineers so after eight number nine native part okay okay does uh okay well actually we're just approving the agenda so does anybody have any um any excuse me any other things they want to add to the agenda besides uh the new number nine all right hearing none can I get a motion to approve the agenda make a motion to approve the agenda and I get a second second any other discussion all those in favor please say I I those oppose all right that passes all right so the consent agenda uh Council M mcky said she wants to pull C and R so we will pull those um does anybody else want to talk about anything else okay hearing none so can someone go through and just go through each section besides the two that we're pulling can do that okay take a deep breath um so consent agenda items a through S omitting C and R um a approved payment of claims B approve minutes from the November 26th and December 10th regular council meeting um D approve resolution appointing approve a resolution appointing City Council Members as representatives of the city council to committees and commissions for 2025 e approve a resolution appointing Deputy city manager Maggie rorf as acting manager for 2025 approve a resolution appointing field officer Andrew drilling as assistant weed inspector for 2025 G approve a resolution designating the official depositories for 2025 H approve a resolution designating the Laker as the official newspaper for 2025 I approve request for commercial kennel license uh for Mount Emergency Management Division and waving fee J approve resolution making the selection to not wave the statutory T limits for liability insurance purposes K approve resolution amending continuation of cdbg funding of West Tonka Community Action Network L approve resolution expressing support for cdbg funding for senior community services M approve hennipen County Assessor open book meeting for April 23rd located in council chambers n approve approval of uh parks and Open Spaces commissioner Kim belnick for three-year term ending December 31st 2027 o approve reappointment of Ben Brandt as City rep for lmcd p approval of DCC commissioner Heidi Peterson for three-year term ending December 31st 2027 and Q approve February 18th 2025 concurrent Council and Planning Commission meeting um s approv subdivision exemption for property at U 5340 Bartlett okay Mr Mayor yeah I'm I'm sorry could I um ask could um let me think what is this um number L be held for discussion I just want some clarification l l pull L too okay to pull L okay does anybody else has have anything they want to talk about with any of those okay so Sans c l and R can I get a motion to approve the consent agenda motion to approve okay I got a motion can I get a second second and any of the discussion on those uh roll call please council member herck um I or n please I Kathy or council member mcin hi council member Pew I council member Castellano hi mayor Hol hi okay so all those pass um so let's go through uh C so wanted to pull that I just wanted to ask you mayor hold if you could share what criteria for us and inquiring minds uh you use in selecting um an acting mayor so the AC mayor last year was council member Larson right um let ask me a question um well I'm asking for this year CU I asked you the same question two years ago you uh but it wasn't in here it was out there oh okay um yeah I don't know I mean that's a good question um you know council member uh calano and I we serve on the um budget committee you know have a good relationship I mean I have a good relationship with all you guys I would imagine but um I don't know I just thought he would be a good uh person to you know step in okay if I'm if I'm gone so right so there's really no criteria except your buddies well you just as much buddies as all of you guys I guess I don't know okay all right and then I wanted to kind of clarify something on number R um and this this came up in we should take each item at one time and so that if there's no more discussion on it you should then approve that that one and then go next okay so C can I get a motion to approve the resolution for the acting mayor of 2025 uh motion to approve okay got a motion can I get a second second any other any other discussion all those in favor please say I I I those oppos all right that passes so now we're on L okay Mr okay sorry my question my question on L is the um the senior community services is an excellent organization uh my understanding was that they ex their their involvement in Mound was through the glesby center they are no longer doing the glesby center are they providing other Senior Services to Mound as to why we're supporting their cdbg I mean there there a well-known organization I just want clarity as to our support for the cdbg supports what so I'll be honest um this was the first January uh meeting that I've been involved in putting together the packet and this is one that's this resolution has been in each of the last several years if there is a clarification that needs to be made I'd be happy to just we can pull it and if it if it should be changed the language should be changed because of something that changed did they contact you and ask for the recommendation no this has just been one that the the just because it was standard has has done every year but um yeah I think we should probably get some clarification I mean they they may still be providing services in Mound even though they're not um affiliated with the gaspe center anymore but that was the former relationship that they were the managers of the glery center here in Mound so maybe it should maybe the language just needs to be updated to uh reflect that or something because I I think that the city has generally supported the Gillespie Center we've we've kind of memorialized that again anyway with an agreement so I yeah but Gillespie doesn't get cdbg money I yeah for this sake then I would I think we need to make sure we got clarification of what um the senior service Community Services is doing in Mound they may be providing some services to individuals in Mound and we just need to understand if that's the case you want do you want to pull it and then bring it back to our next meeting yeah okay since it's an item that's on there we should be tabled okay table okay do I need to make a motion make a motion to table L on the uh consent agenda okay I got a motion for to table can I get a second second 2 seconds any other discussion all those in favor please say I I I those opposed all right that's tabled and then we got R yes I just wanted to the way the minutes read from the Planning Commission um the way they read it it it sort of implies that I don't feel like one candidate is um you know meets my personal expectations and that's to the contrary um Miss Wallace is a attractive candidate my objection to this is something that has never happened before that any of us could think of in recent memory and that's that there was literally one candidate applying for two positions so I was questioning how do we want to handle this because we're not given any choice in the matter to choose a candidate that best fits um in this case the Planning Commission and but it has nothing do with this person's candidate I just the process needs to be adjusted and uh Jessie and I think Sarah determined that we need to write some new policy uh directive for this because the good news this this has I don't think ever happened we're we haven't had a handful of um people you know buying for a position um so I don't know where to go from here I I wasn't saying no to miss Wallace as a candidate I was saying no to the um voting to one appointing one person where there is nobody else running for the position that puts us in kind of an odd um position because we need somebody we want to make sure that person is filling the Planning Commission with the right information to suit and serve Mount residents so that I just want to clarify it has nothing with the candidate it has to do with the process I I do agree I was kind of surprised that we didn't get more applicants and maybe we should have had a longer window or something um I know people apply and not always get on there right yeah we we all know people that have done that so um well that's the way it should be it's well it should we should have like yeah 10 candidates and pick the best want or too right um again I'm not saying that she's not the perfect pick but I also but we don't know but I'm saying it'd be nicer to have a bigger pool right so my question was what do we want to do I mean at this C this is something that should be decided prior to asking her to come in Jesse you can weigh in in this does is this something we need to put in policy prior to us making a decision tonight because it's maybe too late for this particular candidate but going forward we should have a directive in place and that's that we shouldn't be interviewing candidates until I mean I think we should have at least twice as many as the candidate application is filing for but we need to talk about that in a policy meeting yeah I I believe that it's the working rules that uh Sarah was mentioning need to be adjusted if that's the desire for um going forward and this was actually supposed to have been in the December meeting but we reposted it because we had only had one um applicant who eventually dropped out but uh I mean do you think um is part of the challenge that now that the paper is only by paid subscription that maybe not as many people are aware that these positions are open we used all of our resources I mean I I think rough yeah I think sometimes it happens and it's kind of a poor excuse but personally I I would just if if you have a good candidate if the council feels strongly about a candidate I think it could send a message that you know sure if you don't fill the spot when you do have a good candidate what does that say to them I I guess my bigger concern is what would be the plan in the interm if the plan was to wait for more applicants then does that do we are we just basically putting Shar on the bench is she's still considered an applicant so that that's something that's just isn't hasn't been determined because like you said we've never had to deal with this before yeah I guess if you get a really good applicant you don't want to turn them away but you could have the president of the United States as the only applicant but that doesn't necessarily mean those qualifications work for this you know if if an architect were standing next to that candidate for a Planning Commission I would most likely choose the architect or a engineer you know so I'm just saying right now we have no choice we haven't been given a choice it doesn't matter how great of a candidate she is Al we have nothing to compare her to I think I think we did have a situation like this once before for some reason I'm thinking that we had only one candidate and we went back out and advertised again which is what they did here so there was a second attempt at advertising and letting it be known and so the the the Planning Commission I think when they voted they had the right to say there's only one candidate and we choose not to nominate anyone now and to go out again or they could say we're we're satisfied with this candidate we've done the Outreach to get more people to respond we didn't get them and they could vote her in and if they voted her in then that that's that's it um well that was the outcome but but I'm saying as a council is this something we have to address in the future because the same thing can happen to do well I think it happens I think it happens at that commission level first that the commission decides we we want to get more candidates and they reopen it and then if they still don't get more candidates at that point they can decide to either appoint or recommend appointment or they can make the recommendation not to recommend well I appreciate that I just wanted I'm not against that that and then and then like you said then it would come to our Council and we might say well we want to overturn what planning did and we want to do that I I think the process is there well we really we really there wasn't a process with with with in in terms of we have two open spots and one c one person was running for two spots well she couldn't run for two spot you can only but we have two openings you have two openings but you can only one we had two candidates and one backed out okay I'm just saying I think that this is something I would like to look at going forward because I'm not sure if it's it was awkward yeah meting yeah I agree I think we need to look at these working rules they can come as a commission and make a recommendation but we probably need to look at this for all of the commissions and make sure we have a standard process and practice across all so that it's even and fair you know and if it comes up that only one person which again has rarely ever happened so the good news for m is usually there are interested parties that want to serve on committee committees so but in this case um I don't I'm comfortable with moving forward with the candidate I just want to make get on the record that we should resolve this going forward for for future we could add it to for the 18th yeah you know yeah I had it on my list so we're doing a a joint planning and city council workshop on February 18th although she's talking about not just Planning Commission this would all of them because it's just set policy regarding candidate appointments so it really falls on the on us as City Council Members to resolve this not our commissions okay would you rather have us Workshop this or do you want the staff to come back I we should Workshop it get the right language and yeah bring it back in the meantime can staff can you guys look at what what do other cities do um there's got to be a precedence out there for what everybody else does well we should look at if uh what council member Pew said is right that we do have a process already you know maybe it was awkward but if there was a process like what do we already have there was no process because my issue had to do with one candidate throwing their name in the Hat yep well the interview process still went good and they determined that she was a candidate and they moved forward with it they could have said well we're just going to pause and table it right you table disc but it's correct to say we don't have anything right now correct no have in regards to a tiny situation you know there should be at least twice the amount of candidates so we have some so it's not an imaginary choice you know it's it's a real choice that we can you know make sure the best candidate is um on the right committees for a resident I mean like all we have so far that's like not maybe documented or written down is like Council RW said is if someone is the only person applying but the commission is still feeling that they weren't a good applicant you could still elect to not not know but that's that's that's sending a pretty strong message I mean I'd like to not put one candidate in that awkward position yeah of of of us having to say you're not right buy go home even though it's not the the case this time but we should look forward and make sure we don't find ourselves in this position again and have some process in place is all I'm suggesting so you're you're almost suggesting that we keep advertising until we have multiple candidates for all positions or or decrease the number does anything say say we have to have nine members on the Planning Commission I I'm not sure where any of this comes from I mean technically we can update that too if that's what we want to again I'm just throwing this out discussion yep uh the other thing that I've always been my pet peeve too is if you do a three-year term and you want to do it again you just crowned that you get to you just get to keep doing now we we appoint we we approve it right but and I and I don't have any problem with people that we've approved in the past but you know is that the best of M no that's not because I came up in that situation I applied for the Planning Commission with 30 years of work in Community Development I wasn't even given an interview because the day of the interview the board member who was supposedly stepping down said I'm I don't want to step down I want to stay on the board and the board said we're not going to interview because wanted yeah cuz he wanted to stay and so that's that's unfair too because it was advertised and I applied and I wasn't given my due you had to throw your speech in the trash can that's right and we need to look at those proc so so you you know you have to be careful about yeah I mean fortunately we've never really had too many problems with this so yeah let's just okay let's put this on a workshop and then again maybe there's precedent with other communities what they do and we can decide if we like those or not uh in a future Workshop um so going forward with uh Miss Wallace do we want to go ahead does someone want to do a motion to approve R I make a motion to approve the um appointment of Sherry Wallace to the Planning Commission as recommended by the planning commission right yep all right we got a motion can I get a second I'll second okay got a motion a second any any other discussion all those in favor please say I I those opposed all right that passes all right so now we are on to number five comments and suggestions from anybody that's present that their item is not on the agenda um if you want to come up up and give us your name and address welcome thank you give us your name and address K Kaiser 3043 tuxedo Boulevard I'm here to talk to you to inform you of my experience um when I was reporting a criminal sexual conduct case and several interactions even after with the Oro Police Department um so this all started in March of 2021 and is going through up to today um during the reporting of my case um I was treated very poorly my case was not handled appropriately the police department um seemed to focus on my mental health issues more than the actual crime itself and in doing that um they also dismissed anything that I was telling them they never viewed evidence that I had submitted to them which I mean it was found way later but um they failed to relay information that I reported um to the other investigative team team members um failed to include evidence to the prosecutor twice when they exhibited my case um which I found out speaking to the prosecutor she didn't receive that but um failed to document interactions in their case notes when after the case I asked for them and there was just like no mention of important interactions that we had um so after the whole thing was over with I did file my formal complaint which was October something October 27th or something like that but 24th um and I did receive a reply back and they are saying that they are going to handle the complaint internally I've been arguing and voicing my concerns with that asking for a third party because there was so many people involved in the police department from the uh chief of police a sergeant two investigators and a few Patrol officers to me that doesn't seem like that the appropriate way to handle it um due to conflict of interest clearly they are in favor of themselves to investigate their their own complaint doesn't make sense um so I was at the Orno um city council meeting yesterday um requesting again to have the complaints handled outside by a third party um to eliminate that conflict of interest and I'm hoping to get an answer from that but I just came here today to inform you of the experience that I've had and the lack of support and help that I received when calling them which is what the police are for right so that's it thank you okay I can understand your frustration is is your I can understand how you'd be feeling pretty frustrated here is your um reason to be here just to inform us or for us to do action or um well I don't think I don't know if if there's anything I guess but I didn't I assume there isn't I guess I don't know yeah I'd like a question to our attorney um because she's a resident of Mound but Oro provides us Police Service and her issues with them do we need to take a role or does the city of Oro take presidents in this if if we have a contract with with Orno for the police services um if there's an issue with Oro police it's Oro um we we any any concerns that we may have as a city we would bring it through the the um our normal channels we would as through the agreement yeah through the commission we'll bring it up at the commission but uh in the meantime I'll have uh Jesse reach out to Orno and the the chief and see if uh what kind of action that you know we can do on your behalf um so we we'll do that and then again we're going to both be at the police commission next quarter and we'll mention that too I'm sure they'll obviously know about it but okay thank you thank you for sharing your concern all right anybody else just give us your name and address sure J nard 1386 rest Point Road Orno uh many of you may know me um I've been talking to Kelly for a while and although I experienced different abuse in my life I can completely relate to what she's going through and I'm I'm not just talking about the Oro police department but in other aspects of our lives and unfortunately it's odd that I would be here tonight uh suggesting that you all think about the oral Police Department again because I know that's been an issue with this Council I definitely know it has and living in Orno I I've been subjected to what you wouldn't believe I mean we we've had 33 police reports on our property for never a crime committed I've got a police file this thick when I've never done anything wrong I've been criminally prosecuted four times by the oral Police Department my wife once exonerated in every single trial completely we're four times more likely to win the Power Ball than we are to get off five times in henen County it's crazy what we've had to deal with and I'm here to give you all a cautionary tale that the oral Police Department is what it is there are many things I happen to know that the community doesn't because I put in a data request that the Orno Police Department fought me getting and when it comes to the unfortunate circumstances a couple years ago with julus athor I'm appalled by how the or Police Department reacted and I'm going to be publishing that for everybody to know because it's important that our community understands who's protecting us is extremely important and it's not just me this is a member of the community that came to me looking for a little bit of gu Guidance with them and fortunately I helped I kind of understood how to help her and that's why she's here asking you and I think you're wrong to necessarily say we're contracted with them I think you need to say we are contracted with them we do need to demand what we need to for our residents at this point and if you all choose to move forward because there are other options for your community Min trista's next door hen County Sheriff you could find your own way to police yourselves in a manner that you feel better you can protect yourselves and I I don't feel good coming forward saying this but I feel confident coming forward saying this because of the information I've gathered over the years and I've personally experienced and I appreciate your time thank you thank you Jay you all right anybody else all right number six we gotal Police Department with December 2024 activity report even mayor city council uh going through our calls for uh December to the end of December December 31st 2024 we currently have 76 calls for service again they're ranging from your uh disorderlies your domestic related offenses your Medicals your thefts your welfare checks vehicle accidents damaged property DWI and mental health cost uh there's been no Spike as far as things around this time of year things are getting quiet because of the cold weather um but we still continue to have the same kind of activities usual um that being said too uh we've been concentrating on this we haven't had a lot of snow but we've been really watching the streets so that that one night that it does decide to come we have the streets cleared for the public works to be out there and working without issue uh nothing else more to report other than we have uh some events coming we have the Polar Plunge uh the 25th coming up um our trimester for our department has ended uh January 6th so that means we flipflop uh guys and gals change schedules uh we do have a new investigative sergeant and we have one new investigator in our department as of now U the others ones have come come back to the road to work so they will be uh transitioning in here over the month and learning the job as it goes uh other than that there is nothing more other than we have our new officer that you guys all met last month she's progressing well into phase two and doing very well so far will you still be we doing the summary reports yes I will yep I'll be here every night this year so great thanks does council have any other questions um go ahead I was going to say G given um what we've had a resident in our community just report to us could we get um an overview of how the department handles domestic goals you know what are the processes in the protocols for and Reporting domestic calls for domestic calls because you know we constantly that is a category that is every month we've got calls on that and so um if the her case was 21 I would hope that that it's better than what she experienced now uh but I'd like to know what that process is so domestics not that you have to answer it now it can come next time yeah what I can do is I can have our chief put something together for you guys that shows you our policies and procedures that will talk to that and fill you guys in as to how we handle um we're mandated by our by post and we're mandated by the state as how how to organize and and go through on these um cases you know they're all different they all have their own entities so um trying to tell you you know we pull out a book and we just go down the list it ain't how it happens we have to have experienced officers and experienced um investigators that are working to and is the social worker now involved in that the the one that's assigned to to the department we Again case- by case basis um if the social worker becomes involved typically we send things over to her to her a lot to view them and see her point of view on it as a kind of a separate entity or Department yeah domestic violence is an issue that hasn't gone away in 1970 I helped women's Advocates create the first shelter for that women in this in this state and we still have issues with handling those cases and I would hope that your process is one that is both reflective of sensitivity and justice for people who are experiencing that challenge and I would like to kind of have a little bit more reporting on it I just had a quick question so you're the newest officer completed training and then are you guys are you staffed or like still yeah she's in phase two she's got five phases um but she's moving along but we will be up up on all our staff by then nice provided no one else asides to leave were retired so anybody else have all right thanks appr thank you all right number seven we got receive final plans and authorized bidding for water treat infrastructure improvements Phase 1 city project PW 25-12 good evening mayor and members of the council Matt Balman city engineer I'm pleased to be with you tonight um so tonight we are here to present uh the kind of talk through the final plans of the phase one piece of the water treatment infrastructure improvements and so this is a project that uh will go from um Cypress Lane on the west there over to chatau lane and then up to the water tower on chatau Lane and so this this is just one piece of it we're going to upssize that water main um along this Corridor here and the reason we are here with this one first is um with pending County projects on counter on casassa 15 we want to get this done as quickly as possible um so our Engineers estimate is uh 1.19 $1.19 million and that's just a little bit under the original study estimate of $1.2 billion for this piece of it and that's again just a part of the 10.3 million that was awarded by the state uh in 2023 and then like updated in this summer of last year take give us final approval so um with that I'll take any other questions otherwise you have a resolution to to give us final authorization to put this project Del the bid can you just kind of explain a little bit maybe with the pointer up on that map uh cuz so that's all underground the infrastructure I just want to I'm trying to understand exactly what's happening it's it's all underground yeah yep so so right now there there's an existing water main that runs in all these locations and so we are going to pipe burst so underground we're just going to replace in in kind a little bit larger pipe in in that location there's a one block where we need to drill a new line off to the side because the other pipe is won't break up the way that we would need it to um and then this piece here that's actually a ductal iron pipe and so that one also won't break up that piece is going to get open cut for replacement um and then since we're talking about the two Crossings here at Cyprus and at Willshire there the existing pipes there are in casings and those we need to actually open cut um open trench replace and so we're we're going to have to close those two those two intersections for about 2 weeks that was my next question you have to disrupt the roads yes we are unfortunately with this one so we we looked at we didn't want to but that's the best solution for and you couldn't have done it while it was all ripped up uh there's too many other things um in the way and we didn't have approval to to do the work yet so we you know we had to get it approval we had to get the money and then get it designed and so that that's why we're here now and trying to get it done as quickly as we can this spring okay thank you any any other questions uh just to clarify so this is just a resolution for authorization for bid right correct so there will be there'll be another phase one project U mostly on um County Road 110 or phase two project that's in County Road 110 that's water main related and then we will have a a bid for well installation Pro probably early summer and then once those are all done then we will have a resolution to submit uh to the PFA to start getting reimbursement grants and this is for the new filtration system so water treatment improvements yeah so so it's a piece so right now there's a well at this Tower and in order for us to do the the treatment plant over on the other site this well is going to eventually be decommissioned and so we we need to UPS the main so that things flow smoothly back and forth between the towers whereas now it's it's pumped in right at that Tower eventually won't be able to do that so we got to provide a little more capacity in the mains to get it in there to keep everything blowing got it I'm sure you've explained that before but it's been a while so thanks for re explaining not a problem all right does council have any other questions all right so we got a resolution on page 136 someone wants to make a motion a motion for a resolution receiving plans and specifications and ordering advertisement for bids for the water treatment infrastructure improvements project phase one all right I got a motion can I get a second second all right any other discussion all those in favor please say I I I those oppos all right that pass thanks all right number eight we got receive engineering study and authorized final plans and bidding for County Road 15 sidewalk improvements project PW 2508 and PW 2509 all right thank you uh again Matt Balman city engineer and so tonight we're pres presenting the feasibility study for the sidewalk improvements on cassa 15 a similar area to the the watermain project we just talked about um and this has been a project that's been a few years in the making as well um so related to the other projects you henen County this year is planning to Mill and overlay Casa 15 um so once they Mill and overlay the road then there's a 5-year moratorium so no elective diding digging the only emergencies after that for the next 5 years um so the there's been several projects kind of trying to get out of the way um collaborative process here so the as you're all aware the Force main project in sanitary sewer last year that was the biggest disruption disruption of the roadway um then the trail Crossing upgrades is also piece of that um there's private utility Replacements so so I believe the gas company is still trying to get some of their repairs done as well and then we just talked about water main upgrades coming and then the last piece of it before they can do the mill and overlay of some sidewalk improvements in pedestrian U so here you can see the map so the yellow area is what they're is CA 15 Mill overlay that they're planning to do later in the summer um that goes from Black Lake Road and Spring Park all the way to the um West City Limits and so uh our just a little bit more background on it the city's been completing County Road sidewalk peace meal Improvement since 20 2021 so that's been kind of with the downtown paperwork um then we've been working up 110 and then a little bit on 15 so picking away at at some of the pieces of it but you know we alerted the county in 2023 that you know a big chunk of that roadway was um Beyond just what we feel is the city responsibility um and set so the sidewalks are kind of a a sh responsibility the city M the county administers them city does minor repairs and maintains them cleaning the sidewalk and then if there's cracks and stuff like that then we'll we go after those but once it reaches a certain certain threshold of kind of dilapidation then the county will participate in in repairs or if they lead a project they'll participate in the cost for the repairs um and so in 23 we submitted to them to get some coop cooperation on a project they agreed and pledged funds and for expense in 2025 and then with all the other projects they they weren't able to complete all the um pedestrian ramp improvements so I'll get to that in the next slide here but the they asked if we would manage getting those those final ones done and they're going to cover the full cost to get know full cost for design and construction of the The Pedestrian Rams um all right so that yeah so we have a three-part project so there's a city Only portion from Belmont Lane to Fairview Lane so that's less than 50 % of the walks need repair is approximately 30% in our estimation there then there's a joint cost portion from Fair viw Lane to the seat in channel on the East piece of town so that's greater greater than 50% of the area needs repairs we about 55 60% is what we're coming up with um and that's a cost share of the mainline walks and then there's the 88 improvements that's 100% County funded um work was unable to be done in the prior years all the other stuff going on so so the blue again is the city Only piece here about 30% of those walks the red is the shared Mainline walk that will will split the cost of those and then the black stars are all of The Pedestrian ramps that there's just too many other projects going on that they they didn't feel they could get them done efficiently um so then summary of the cost here the top table is the blue and the stars and so the the city of mountains portion of that is just under 300,000 estimated total project cost and if it County's portion is 525,000 roughly and then uh total project for that would be 825,000 then uh maybe I had my colors mixed up there but the the west side there the blue that comes in to just around $326,000 for City cost there um add all that up that's 1.15 million total City amount is 526,000 and then H County 625,000 and they pledged you um 500 for the mainline walks and 220 for the the ada8 improvements so we're within budget there um and then the city is going to um pay for them kind of with the revamped um long-term financial plan so using portions of bond proceeds and then use of the city's Municipal state aid fund dollars to kind of offset those costs that's how that'll be handled um so the project schedule again in 2023 we submitted for funding participation in October authorize a study tonight you're here we receive the study authorize final plans and bidding um March would be our goal to ad advertize the bids um April actually I my goal would be late March that we would have the bid and award it um so that we can again do const get into construction very early um uh we met with the county on Friday so after I completed this and they reiterated they would like us done by the end of June if possible so that they can get in shortly after that thanks yeah right so next steps so just request Council action for consideration to accept the study and authorize final design of these two projects all right does council have any questions for you're probably tired of Mound sidewalks stage game might be the last one for a while all right not hearing any can I get a uh motion on page3 uh I can make a motion for a resolution to receive report and authorizing prep of plans and specifications and ordering advertisement for bids for County Road 15 sidewalks replacement projects Belmont to Fairview and Fairview to seatan project 2508 and 2509 all right got a motion can I get a second second any other discussion all those in favor please say I I those oppose I that thanks thanks all right number nine we got uh the Nature Park all right mayor and Council um Magie rorf Deputy city manager I am gonna kick off this um item for review and discussion so in my memo um I explain that um the park commission has been um working or having a discussion with a resident um Tyler Piper on a um Native Garden Expansion Project at Edgewater Park so Tyler has been in front of the council in the past with similar requests there was um a smaller project at Ed Edgewater Park in the past and then two other uh projects uh including one last year at Belmont Park so these are Wildflower um Native Garden projects and so what they do they Tyler will explain kind of the benefits of these um plantings and the park especially like some of them being be friendly um environments and um also uh um was I going to say um also um an attractive part of addition to some of our Parks as well they've been um reported to me specifically that um people have enjoyed visiting these um locations uh specifically just to see the the plantings and kind of throughout the seasons the changing of the um different flowers that are there um so the request this evening is to expand um the Edgewater Park project it's a unique Park um as far as um it's a little hilly it's and so the park commission decided that it might be a good Park to do a kind of a unique project yet because um they decided it it is a little bit more difficult to kind of put a playground there or other Park features and so they thought this would be a good um good location to to discuss expanding um so the so Tyler did bring the proposal and he will um that was included in your packet um if you have any questions Tyler will kind of review um a little bit more in detail about that um we did the park did want to invite residents of Edgewater the Edgewater area to the meeting um we didn't receive anyone in person but we did receive a I did receive a phone call and an email about um just some concerns about um the way that the gardens can look at times they can look dried up and and they they wanted to make make sure that the city would be maintaining those areas and making sure that they looked nice and if they weren't then they were not in favor of the project the park commission did talk about that and um so I think there's going to be some ongoing discussion with that but some options were um putting malra on the edging to kind of let make the carb appeal look a little more clean they are one thing to take into consideration is there are I think and Tyler wi hope better than me but over the season I think different flowers are maturing at different times so some flowers will look drier and um I think it's the first year that they need to be watered continuously but then the maintenance goes down after a year one as far as watering but we do need to maintain the the weeding and the making sure the mulch still looks nice and everything so I did um so that is something we're we're in the process of addressing if that that is a concern but the park commission did recommend moving forward with the project again Tyler is going to talk more about it the request um this evening is related to a grant submittal so Tyler is hoping to submit for grant funding for this project through henpen County um good steart Grant um their good steart Grant um and that would cover most of the cost of the project if we did receive the grant the city would have would be responsible for about ,750 of the cost but I need to look into that a little bit more because some of it might be in kinds which could include um Park staff time um and and which we've done in the past and is being requested again so that it would be clearing the site with a with a machine and um helping with some of the watering and the mulching so that's something we'll um um continue to look at but so this evening um the the part commission is asking or is making a recommendation to the city council to allow Tyler to apply for the grant to see if we can get that funding to then if we do get the funding move forward and to approve up to $1,750 towards the project so that's my explanation but Tyler is here to explain the project a little bit more and to answer any questions that the council may have okay all right welcome Tyler nice to see you again thank you and thanks for having me back and thank you megie for that uh um introduction almost of a little biology lesson that you've uh adopted so thank you um she covered most of it but Tyler Piper uh 5504 Church Road um this is my I believe third uh third time in front of the city council for a project and this time I was hoping to get more banging out of our buck I guess Collective Buck um so with this submitt um as Maggie noted what I'm hoping is um to get your commitment that should I be awarded that I would uh be able to secure that funding and they do have um in kind funding um I'll send you the link to the good Steward Grant but um something we can look into but with that commitment that's one of the final pieces on my application um that I was hoping to submit it's um deadline is January 23rd so uh it's coming up pretty quick um but that's why it was a great great for you all and I appreciate it to get me on the docket today and thank you Magie and team for for doing that um to summarize why I'm doing this um it was part of the grant um and I don't expect you have to run it all but um being where we are in terms of Harrison's Bay and I know actually the Harrison Bay uh Lake organization I can't remember the exact name they had been awarded uh this Grand funding uh prior so they they have some experience but probably similar to their application um there are benefits to native plants in terms of reduction of uh minerals and nutrients that are going into our Lake Harrison Bay has been designated as an impaired Body Source so that was a big aspect of my application uh being in henpen County we are um blessed to have a really strong population of the endangered Rusty patch bumblebee I've documented a couple in my native uh plantings here and so that's another aspect where um you know very similar to the feeling you would get when you'd see a bald eagle and and you're like here or you know those start to come back I'm sure some are old enough to remember um we have a chance to do something like that and it's it is unique cuz they're insects and so you don't have to save an entire Lake you can save small portions and give them little places to thrive um as Maggie noted there's also just the park beautification um I love the parks vocation it has this kind of beautiful overlay of the lake that you can catch through a few of the taller houses and um it it it's used more at least when I was using it as a place to to run and then run through and hopefully with the gardens it's a little more of a place where people can relax enjoy the natural beauty that we have surrounding us and um enjoy the native plants as well um I can talk to my experience this is a larger project obviously than the previous installations and my hope is that the success with those um the most recent one being this year would demonstrate my commitment um on the very first Bellman on installation I had committed to three years I think it's been four years on that aspect of it and I don't want to stop weeding so if you want me to can but I I enjoy it that's kind of my my go-to happy spot and um it would be the same commitment with this it's a larger aspect um but I've also been doing this um not really professionally but on a volunteer and a part-time basis while while I was unemployed during the summer um so I have experience with projects this this large and so again the is I can have your commitment if if I can get that Grant and I'm happy to answer any questions at this point regarding uh layout or what your thoughts are on the the current Edgewater Park situation open for anything does council have any questions for Tyler can I just have a comment I I think your um layout looks really nice but I'm in agreement that maybe there have been a few people that have called in and said at certain times of year the sustainable flower plots can look pretty bad have you given any thought to how you could um address that yeah actually I used uh this is a theme in my life but when you could look at things as either a problem or an opportunity and so what I saw there was an opportunity um for interpretive signs and part of it is can I meet that comment in the middle so natural space a natural garden it incorporates in the Dead flowers there's an average of5 like 15 different organisms bees that will overwinter and that kind of thing so there's an imperative to keep some of that but also I I grew up in that Landscaping routine where if it doesn't look good from the road it's looked at as bad and then you've kind of failed you know it's not we have a city for people not for bees so I think that's a very important aspect and so having signs that could educate about the different seasons and then there can be Beauty in Winter uh remains of flowers but then also keeping kind of a more strict uh maintenance level especially that mulch layer was a big aspect that Maggie mentioned but also then trimming some of the things during the season there's also opportunities um with the amount of seeds produced that we can again compromise and get the best out of the situation where if we cut off at some years and left only stubble it's a lot more of a uniform appearance and then we could Harvest those seeds and use them proactively in the city um I collected in the pounds worth of seeds from my own Gardens and the plots I've installed at the community garden and and by weight it's in in the thousands of dollars and so I mean if the city is ever you know buying seeds or redoing the Natural Area we will have the resource it's not mentioned in this grant but it's kind of a self- sustaining way if you know how to do it and so um I am serious about the the concerns about the weeding and the um the natural look part of it is it is not going to be a petunia grass petunia grass garden and that's by Design and um there is nothing wrong with those Gardens but I think it's it's part of the fun challenge to me is how can we continue to make the neighbors proud of that area and so I don't have the exact answer I wanted to give you right now but I it's important to me to make sure that standard is met for them thank you right so is there some kind of action on this or yes um so I think do you want to pull up my memo yeah I am so there's three recommendations and I believe you can tie it all in so it's um approval of the design of the project just a garden project um itself um collaboration and approval to submit the grant to henan County and then if the grant has received approve up to 1,750 in financial report um and keeping in mind the in kind uh allocation towards that and then City support for similar to the past that Public Works can assist in clearing and prepping the site with watering mulching and then other minor tasks okay so this is one action I mean you can do separate it's it's kind of yeah I I guess I would ask that um can we do that one these are those three the three recommendations that are up there yeah there not a resolution itself right no I mean it's written resolution but no I mean you can you can do a you know motion to you know a motion to pass the recommendations that are in the staff report okay yeah okay com yes um I believe me you have done a beautiful job and you've put a lot of work into this I can tell um I've got a couple questions so first of all Edgewater according to our list is considered an open Playfield obviously this is going to change that correct can we put up the graphic Google Maps do you have a good what you're showing this no he's ask this thing oh yeah this is just what the city has at on public website that list the different map the different location locations don't worry about about that I'm just asking the question how does that fall out do we I mean is everybody okay with that I know we've asked some of the neighbors um I also have a question about the grant if we are awarded the Grant and let's say we deem that this property needs to be sold or assigned or offered to the two adjoining properties can we move those plants to another location or are we going to have to give the money back or how does that work so I think he's working on them I would say say that it would need to align with whatever gr the grant says as far as as um commitment M and so it would not be something that you would be easily able to do un until the contract is complete I believe there was a fiveyear commitment on this one so be 2028 and in terms of the play area I can reinforce this was a concern that came up with the original planting in that um a the resident on the the house I'm trying to get my directions here which would be the that's North North is that would be on the East they had used that in the past when they had rented for summer guest for volleyball and that had been a concern um with the garden installed I now believe it's been 3 years I don't I had been checking I don't believe that had been raised in the past and I had been making efforts to try to you know reach out to the neighbors get to know them a little bit I'm over there pretty often um but again I'm not raising that as a pro or con but just to reinforce that that had been brought up in the past and um it was something we had looked at and the had gone through with the plan right and I know the Parks Commission has reviewed this but do we have any idea of cost for maintenance that's going to be required on behalf of the city um I mean I think so I think similar to the other parks there is um you know we've committed to helping uh prep the site and the mulching so there would be ongoing mulching which we do at our Parks already right um and then there Tyler is going has stated that he's going to be volunteering as well um the first year there is a commitment to watering M um but as my understanding is after the year and everything's established there's no watering needed and all planting all weeding all kind of just general maintenance if a plant dies or we start to get too much seaing in one location I've been handling that and so that's that's part of the cost hopefully deferred from the city and that my time spent there and then it like Maggie said it's watering which last year actually the city didn't water once for me in Belmont which was great we had that wonderful spring and so sure you know there's possibility that zero and expense there and then it was the extra mulch from the pile and then the the time it took to clear and that was about the city extent that I had you guys out to the the park so the idea would be to stick with what's worked before so clear the land and water if necessary I do the rest and hopefully down the road who knows we could look into you know burning Solutions or fun stuff like that I think there was something burn mentioned in here um which obviously is a concern given California right now um but I guess the question I have is I know that like this Carlson Park that's over on Sean Channel I've heard from some of the community over there that they're very unhappy with the way that looks um I don't think it's necessarily our Department's problem because or fault because I've got a garden like this in my front yard that's kind of gone crazy and it is a problem to deal with and once these plants get to be two and three feet tall and they die off it looks like a weeded mess so how do we address that and how do we handle that moving forward I appreciate the fact that you're volunteering but you know lives change people move you know I mean we've got a commitment from you for maybe a year but then our you know our internal departments are going to have to deal with it moving forward and that's what I'm concerned about you know what's the cost to the city to maintain that 5 years down the road 10 years down the road um this is a lot of mulch and believe me Jason you can attest to the fact I lay a lot of mulch every season to the tune of about a hundred bags and it's labor intensive you know so and the mulch would be just for year one uh usually by that time enough of it kind of decays into that border okay um and then after after that in terms of clearing the hope is obviously with this one I'm on there for 5 years but um after that my hope is to continue working with the city and part of the followup here especially with Belmont I mean these are very close to my heart and sounds like with your garden as well you know you wouldn't sell it for the world um in that um should anything happen should I have to leave for a new job or family circumstance or whatever would be it would it would pain me dearly to to leave it unattended and so um maybe some followup if you if you would like um you know just off off the Record but on some of the uh you know Turf versus native grass I think there's trade-offs on both I think there's an appeal with turf grass but in terms of watering uh fertilizing receding and especially in that area that had that Emerald Ash dieback in terms of what can grow there it's it's a challenging site and so that's where these native plants were selected to kind of thrive in that mostly Sun but kind of partitioned by those dying trees and then we've got that shade area at the bottom so hopefully with uh the maintenance I could do has always been enough but I think also some of those expectations will there always be people who see a Native Garden and think it looks unruly yes I mean that's that is part of it and is is that a concern that should be addressed yes but I it's always been my experience that you can you can win over people with um meeting them like I said in the middle trying to find ways that can I clearcut the garden after you know right after every time probably not but can I start doing a trim that's a little more even or getting some Machinery or working with the city you know on maintenance PL so that's done I I think that's a great suggestion right yeah because I know we have an issue with met counsil at the water treatment plant and this is the same type thing you know I think it's a lovely commendable idea to help the bees I mean I like I said I've got a garden full of be bomb and blocks and everything else it's going crazy so um I just want to make sure that the city understands that this is is a long-term commitment and I mean we're spending money taxpayers dollars are we going to get the benefit out of it and are we going to be able to maintain it in the future because that grant money I don't know if there's anywhere else we might want to use that I have no idea what's going on with that that's the parks open spaces but I mean we're at a we're at a timeline here where he's got to have an answer so I get that it's a little late to discuss it but sorry I'm new no you're gone thank you great questions um this we had a workshop right before this and we we actually I don't know if we specifically talked about this property but we mentioned you know basically Parks or grass or whatever you want to call this thing that you know yeah there's no playground there's you know but there's a picnic table and a parking spot and you know someone can come and look out over the lake or whatever um is that something that we were going to look into that we're going to put on our list of you know can the neighbor purchased you know that lot and then the other neighbor purchased you know so that I mean that's in the back of my head talking about this whole thing um I know we're a problem we're on a deadline here but um basically we we think it's time to assess and re-evaluate all the parks in Mount all 37 do we have 37 Parks I think we do and and so it's just interesting timing is is what I think council member herck was referring to at mayor H that that that was ding ding ding right away it's like gez what if we decide you know we we look at with uh our you know city manager and with the staff and determine you know this maybe is up for another opportunity um where where would you land with that if you got it you know approved for the grant I think is it specific to location or could we use it elsewhere in Mound I guess maybe is the question because this isn't going to we're not going to get money tomorrow right I mean it process be it would be for the planting of 2025 so everything is designed for the park and so spring yeah I mean I can go on the I go on the record that I personally really enjoy this park and and so hopefully you know as the city is looking into uses and you know Brens out to the residents and how they would view view the decision but in terms of what might happen I can look into the Grant and try to follow up but I believe it'll be a 2028 commitment so a way of looking at that is another positive you know if these native plants go and we have to put up a tower here in in 5 years it was 5 years worth of native plants and benefit in five years that that extra runoff that is going into our storm water system didn't go into like manona and Harrison Bay is that is that a negative no and I don't think it would necessarily have to be a reason to stop the project why would I be just disappointed if if that happened and you know the things got sold or plowed under of course but I think in the meantime why not go for it why not try so you're saying again if we' said yes then and you planted I mean we're committed on that property to at least 5 years that specific property yes and also I mean I'm sure there's there could be I'm not a lawyer but legal ways to get out of it it's a pretty small commitment you know $5,000 or you know $1,000 actually on your guys paron then whatever we would have to pay back in terms of the commitment but you know again the hope is too that maybe this uh could be a chance to demonstrate the Park's worth and and create a place where people would want to gather and have that Den Community up there where it's you know it's a unique area it's a tough road it's a place where I believe the PC has looked in terms of can we build infrastructure not necessarily but in terms of you know bu the lake locations it's it's a unique one so I think there's also the reality that while I am not in favor of selling off Parklands for those of you who are we're not going to do it in 2025 it's going to take a process so even if it were the the fact that the city was going to sell out Parklands we're really talking 2026 or 2027 before that happens my concern would be all hard work too I mean we if we could move the plants I think that would be an ex excellent solution yeah they could be and that actually you know I have time I think that's a good idea in terms of should the park be moved I put a an addend an added item in there should vocation be disturbed or should something happen we will move as many plants as possible now I I I want to be honest you can move a lot some plants say you know with natives there and this was the benefit their tap Roots can go I'm not exaggerating 10 ft down and so when you have that you're you basically have to clear cut it and then start over from scratch which again if someone owns the property that's their decision but again yeah it's the risk with all Native plantings is you never know and I've done projects for people who may sell the next year but um you know that's it's a interesting conversation still forward though where do the trees go that you're purchasing shrubs are they I just trying to figure out real quick yeah so in the map I kind of have them arranged at the kind of tips of each Garden um so keeping it in a way that and all these Gardens the native plantings I've done you can kind of see there in the tops there uh so those are actually locations of the okay yep just kind of in that general area I didn't want to nail it down too much but uh alternating between Plum surface Berry um and there was some interest from the PC about um and these are edible things too so drawing people and something fun to do is uh the plum trees I have in my in my house are six or seven years old and they produce in the pounds now and it's a really fun experience um a lot of wildlife you know gets there and it's a beautiful thing all right well thank you thank you we're going to discuss it appreciate it thanks um I know this is our last topic and I know there's a few people here does anybody want to talk about this or is anybody here for this okay just wanted to double check about theard subdivision thing that was a oh on the consent agenda yeah and you right over it mention it okay yeah I know I've been waiting for something to okay well we approved it we did approve it already um what let's finish this and then if you want to stick around we can chat about that quick um so okay so nobody's here for that um I don't know I mean this is exactly this is the part that I have in my brain when I go you know the neighbor could buy half of it the other neighbor could buy the other half you know I think you have to quit speculating about what could be and what is well we have to have a workshop and figure out is this something that we want to do timing wise we're committed to the deadline here so I mean as long as we have the ability to either move the plants or do you know it's going to take us more than like Sher said more than a year or two to if we decide we do want to look at selling it that's not going to happen tomorrow so I would I mean I look I'm I'm in favor of it I mean I look at it as like there's a net gain to having someone that engaged in your parks and right literally looking at it at the map you know at a bird's eyee view I mean that cost is a very small amount of equipment or a bench or you know I mean having Public Works cares a lot about how the parks work too and like knowing that they were supportive of the Belmont project I don't know what the other one was or the previous Edge like you know they're supportive of someone being that engaged making the Parks look as good as they can so I don't really see a big downside that might come later with you know I mean I don't think we should speculate on what might happen later for yeah a project of this size I don't know hey I'd move that we U pass the recommendations for the Edgewater Park project okay so I got a motion to approve what's on the screen here can I get a second so there's a motion to approve the three recommendations okay second okay so I got a motion a second any other discussion okay all those in favor please say I I I those oppos I would' you V I oppose no I I means yes doesn't it well I said then I said oppose then you I said I for oppose no sorry okay I'm confused okay so I voted against in favor of it all I voted against everybody else voted for it so congrats thank you very much thank you all right thank you yep um okay I think he's talking to her but Mr Mayor um could we um open up for to let the residents who had a issue with um a consent agenda item to speak yeah can we reopen that can I make a motion to I don't know think we can reopen it but we can talk talk to her but no the the yeah the item's done but but but the mayor council can ask people to come up and provide information on anything he want ma'am did you want to come up and talk at all or did you get your explanation me yeah oh yeah he explain everything you're good okay all right thank you thank you your letter was not at all enlightening okay so the letter that went out you go ahead come on up and give us your name um this is one of my neighbors on my street on on Lakewood my name is Magic kuic I'm at 2561 Lakewood Lane I'm one of the mentioned parties in the letter that kind of went out from Sarah yeah mentioning so the property is within 350 ft the last time she had seen it it would had come a fourth and we had not had the opportunity to come up with the agreement that was put on the con agenda right so she didn't know so once I explained it to her which her goal was for the woods to stay the woods yeah so yeah it's all good so she just wasn't insured so she just needed some clarification on the letter that she had gotten okay and you got to enjoy a full council meeting that you didn't plan on and she's still awake right so thank thank you right all right so number nine we got comments and reports from council member council member um well glasby Center is doing quite well um they've got a lot of activities going on and and it seems that they're um they're they're dealing with some long-term maintenance issues on their building but they're they're doing well um the other thing I did this week because I was very upset with what is going on at State Capital especially because I think it can have negative impact on our ability to get funding for water so I did put in a call to both uh representative ERS and Senator um Johnson Stewart I always want to mix her names wrong um about my concern that this is not a time for gamesmanship between the parties if people get elected they get elected you know if you have a divided government you have a divided government but let's get the work done in the state and I'd encourage any from M to call them and tell them we need them to work to get our water system right done even my medical doctor when I went to see my doctor this month she was saying oh you can't drink your water can you in Mound you know my medical doctor my internist right so let's let's get them serious about doing the work that needs to be done did they call you back or I didn't get a call back I talked to Myers's um Aid okay and um and I have not gotten a call back from Johnson okay but I know I and I don't know what happened today did they did they actually get the quorum to I don't think they did so okay if you need anybody cell phone number let me know yeah um and that's it you got anything else no that's a okay Council mayor mckany I I don't have anything being it's the first meeting of the year but I will remind any hearty Souls out there that the Polar Plunge um raising money for Special Olympics this Saturday the 2 Fifth and it's a really funny event um even to come watch so good luck to our Deputy city manager did the plunge last year so I'm committed again and it's a lot colder this year last year was a beautiful day yes it was Jess you doing it no I'm not I'll not do it with you solidarity that's it thank you okay uh Council costano I I don't have anything no okay council member her I don't have anything either thank you all right um I met with uh the new mayor of Orno uh mayor tonim I think you said Bob Robert um had a good uh good meeting uh you know he's brand new obviously uh as you know we have oral police so want to make sure you know he he mentioned you know that we had some discussions last year so chatted about that and um he also talked about fire coverage and stuff and I told him kind of what our plans were already but um maybe down the road there might be something there but um but yeah good meeting um coming up here I think really for the council members uh City on the hill um if you want to go down to the capital and I think there it's a one of the hotels downtown St Paul uh the three of us went last year um Governor spoke uh you you the leadership from both leadership from both parties were there they spoke you get to meet some of the people so it's kind of you know if you want to sign up to go um March 6 is it March 6 you went last year too right mhm yeah um and then we go over to the capital and then um we we got a meeting with uh our two Senator and representative so that's a good time to I mean if you guys have time and you can take the day off or whatever uh you know I hope you go again I think we should try and meet with the chair of the committee that the bill goes before too yeah Express to them yeah and then I guess do we know if that's going to change this year um Senator papus was last year you know I don't know I suspect it might have changed on the Senate side anyway yeah we I'm planning on going but yeah so if anybody else wants to join with and then there's a training in February too for um for all of us all the league yeah huh the league mhm yeah so can you can you just send that out to us again so we all know the training as well as the city day on the hill yeah yep I can yep I have two signed up right now if you are interested I'll send a reminder yeah for the training okay um and then uh talked to the uh Lake minetonka Flats group and you know I wrote down my notes and I left them somewhere else I don't know where they are but big big story short is as you guys walk or drive by right they're cooking um I didn't know you could do Concrete in winter it's crazy they have special mix and they said they've been doing it do that for a long time so they're just hustling they're trying to they said sticks by the end of February so we'll see some Framing and stuff so that'll be pretty cool um again this is on memory but uh I think August would be the first unit would be done um or at least shown and I think whoever signed up for the first deposits am I wrong on any of this pretty close right okay they already hadit deposits I'm just no I'm saying if they have deposits on the first four units um you know they would they would be moving in in the summer um so pretty pretty interesting pretty good um yeah that's all I got anything else from anybody else staff have anything okay uh I'll take a motion to adjourn so moved okay got a motion can I get second second any other discussion all those in favor please say I I those oppos all right we're journ