Welcome to the Mountain City Council. It's uh Tuesday, May 12th, 6 o'clock. Uh can we rise for the pledge of allegiance? >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> All right, we have our agenda. Do we have any amendments? >> No amendments. All right. Uh, can I get a motion to approve our agenda? >> Make a motion to approve the agenda.
>> All right. We got a motion. Can I get a second? >> Second. Second. >> Two seconds. Any other discussion? >> All those in favor, please say I. >> I. >> I. Those opposed. All right, that passes. Uh, we got public comments. If you want to come up, we'll give you a couple minutes.
Give us your name and address. >> Hello, my name is Johan Schuma. I reside at 6039 Beachwood Road. Um I have some comments regarding the project for the water treatment plant. Um first of all, I'd like to know what is the plan budget
for or the plan cost of that plan because I heard 40 million first it started at 10 and 20 then 40. So what what is the where are we going towards? >> There was a 30 in there too. >> 3242. It's just been climbing. >> Yeah. So what's the latest?
>> The latest uh all in is what? 40 >> 42. It's that's right now that's still just an estimate until it's designed. >> So $42,000 and I think the CD you guys have worked to secure around $20 million, right? >> We we secured 10.3 from the state.
>> Okay. >> And just about 2 million, maybe a little over two million from the federal. >> That makes $30 million that that will need to be funded. >> Yeah. And we're looking at getting another potentially about three um from uh PFA, right? Yes. Okay. It's
>> from PFA we're hoping on. So the number is 27. If if you want if you look watch our last video. >> Okay. >> Um we went through the whole thing. >> Okay. So 27 $27 million divided by roughly 10,000 people in mound. It's we're round it up to 3,000. That's easier for me for my poor head. That
makes roughly uh $12,000 per family of four. That would be the cost for a family of four to pay back the city. I don't know where we're going to find that money. And that makes me worried. Uh especially >> and if you watch our previous video, we go in depth for what an hour,
>> hour and a half maybe on it. >> Especially seeing the size of that of that building. Um in the in the latest rendering there was a three vehicle garage and Ryan explained that was for storage of parts. But why do we need three car garage for storage of part?
That stuff is going to add up. I mean I think we don't want to spend more money than we have. Personally, I' I'd like to have like whatever on my house redo the siding. I don't have the money, so I'm not going to redo the siding. >> So, I think the city should hopefully go the same way.
>> Um, and then um I was thinking about the type of the roof because right now what what's being presented is a flat roof, >> but flat roof has a very limited lifespan. That means that within 10 years we'd have to re re-roof that stuff. It's going to be at least I don't know how much it cost, but I don't think
it's going to be $1,000 to re re-roof the re-roof that stuff. So, we're going to be yet again spending another whatever uh thousands of dollars re-roofing that that building when I think what could be done is having like a pitch roof, a metal roof. Metal roof lasts forever. So, there's no cost to
that. It's done. It's done forever. >> Um and then um so yeah, that those were my comments. I I hear that there's a there there's a video and I will watch it again. and I was on vacation. So, I I will watch the previous um city council meeting
>> and the website is completely up to date with all the financing and exactly what's happening >> going forward too. >> Thanks. Thanks for explaining. >> Thanks. >> Thanks. Appreciate it. Thanks, Joan. >> Thanks for your work. >> All right. See you. >> All right. Anybody else? >> All right. Hearing none. Uh we're going
to go to number five. Uh, we got the oath of of office for fire chief Andrew Drilling. >> Jesse Dixon, our city manager. >> Hi, >> Mr. Mayor, members of council. So, we are going to administer the oath of
office for Andy here. Um, I'm just going to give you the order of operations quick. So, I'm going to administer the oath and then at that point, Andy is going to have his pin put on by a person of his choosing, which I believe is his wife. >> Mhm. >> Um, and then we'll give you an opportunity to take a picture with the
mayor and Andy and then, uh, the council and Andy and then at that point, we will adjourn the crew here so they can take family photos or whatever they'd like to do while we move on with the meeting. So, >> I am going to actually put this up on the screen for Andy.
All right, raise your right hand. Repeat after me. >> I, Andrew Drilling, promise >> I, Andrew Drilling, promise >> that I will serve the citizens of the cities that the that the Mountain Fire Department protects with honor and integrity. I will serve the citizens of the cities that the Mountain Fire Department protects with honor and
integrity. >> That I will in all respects observe the provisions of each city's charter and ordinances. >> That I will in all respects observe the provisions of each city's charter and ordinances. >> And that I will faithfully discharge the duties of the office of fire chief to the best of my judgment and abilities.
>> And that I will faithfully discharge the duties of the office of fire chief to the best of my judgment and abilities. This work is dangerous. It's a complicated pen, isn't it? >> Yeah. Did you guys practice this?
>> It's official. CONGRATULATIONS. And one more. >> Yeah. Come on. >> Do it right in front of >> Oh, can't you just stand here? >> Yeah. Yeah. Scott always tries to hide
the shine off my head. usually just swivel around. We can just tuck in just a little bit here. There we go. One, two, three. Thanks guys. >> Thanks guys.
Exactly. Thanks for coming everybody. All right. Give me the Oh, there he is. All right. Uh, number 5B, we're going to go Orno Police Department with the April 2026 activity report. Officer Spencer. >> Good evening, Mayor City Council. Uh
going over the uh past month uh from a in April, we had about 154 calls service to the mound area. Nothing trending up. Uh mostly the same thing. The only thing I noticed in the last few weeks been more medical. I don't know what the cause of that is, but it happens once in a while. Uh other than that, there's
we've hadn't had any uh major complaints or anything coming through. So we can kind of keep in the status quo going. So um the months it's been picking up though. Um the summer you can tell is on its way. So we are seeing a little more foot traffic and people out and about.
Uh the month of April has been pretty busy for us um with training. We have to do all our postmandated training in this month. Um we do it twice a year. Once April, once October this month's been uh first responder and all our medical training's been done in service
refreshers for self-defense tactics, tasers, handcuffing, etc. It's a bunch of stuff that uh post requires from us. in our firearms quall and then monthly SWAT training. Um, Orno has hosted another one of our forensics days um for the high schoolers. Uh they take a
special class up there and they get to come out and see some of the uh aspects of law enforcement. Um our school resource officer in Orno puts that on. He uh Jay McCoy, he uh organized FBI tactics team came out. uh Lake Mananka
SWAT team came out, FBI team, uh forensics team, and then also the Secret Service agents have come out, and it's just basically to show the kids that just because you go into law enforcement doesn't mean you're going to be in a uniform and push and driving a squad car all day. There's many facets to our our
profession and we want to let them see that and get back. >> So the kids that come to see this, are they all interested in becoming law enforcement or is it just a high school course or >> There's like a a percentage of them. A lot of them are just curious and a lot of it has a lot to do like the the
teacher that actually puts it on is a biology teacher. >> Oh, okay. So she's taken upon her her brother's an ATF agent, so she kind of um spearheads this and likes to have the kids see that there's other things out there. >> Yeah. >> So, and then they ask questions and
there's a there's like a small percentage like we had at least three or four kids that were like we actually probably can recruit as to like cadets or something in the near future. So, but few show interest. It's always nice to see it. So, >> um,
currently have the speed trailers are out now. Uh, we have two of them, Bartlett and West Edge, and then we have one right in front of Arley the Lake on Commerce. Uh, I was told, and I don't I can't speak a lot to it, but the county is going to be doing a study at West
Edge and uh, Bartlett to kind of see what's going on and what the if there's something they can do to remedy that situation with the speeding and everything. So, um, I was just told about it. I didn't get a lot of information on it. So, I'm sure there's more to come in the following months
unless you guys have got more than I do on it. So, >> so we we got one, if we're talking about the stop sign >> Yeah. >> area, >> we got we got an email from a citizen that she was worried about people going through it. >> Yeah. >> Cuz back in the day, it wasn't there was
no stop sign there. >> If you ask me, it was a lot worse back then. >> Yes. >> It's a lot better now. The stop sign. I've never seen anybody run it in my >> my days, but >> back in the day there was only two stop signs there, >> right? So So some people just go right through according to some people. But
>> yeah. >> Um so that's why we requested the trailer. So that's where that's where that's out. And I don't know if you've had any contact with her since or let her know that that's out there. And I'm sure she's seen it, but >> not since the trailer's been out, but we've kept up to date a little bit. And
I'm I know I've gotten some updates from Bold and Ming just regarding that that the county was going to do something, >> right? >> You know, I don't think we know the timing of the study of it necessarily, but >> maybe shoot her an email back or something and >> I go through that four-way stop probably
10 times a day and I've never seen anybody not complying to it. Is this normal? >> Some you see one, right? Just like speeding on West Edge, you know, you see one or two and then you think it's like everybody doing it. >> Yeah. I thought it was kind of an odd sign. I'm like, who doesn't stop at a
four-way stop? But now I'm understanding that you had a complaint. So, >> well, there was a bad accident there. Yeah. >> And after that accident put up. >> Yeah. There hasn't been many accidents there. >> And since the Yeah. signs. >> I'm trying to think even when I was a
mound officer and there was only two stop signs there. I don't remember responding. I mean, m maybe a handful of them, but I don't remember it being the biggest problem in the world, but maybe there's something that we're not seeing that we're missing because >> when our squad cars around, we don't see anything. Everyone's compliant. So,
>> seen a squad car there watching so they kind of sit back so they can >> Yep. We had this, >> you know, the little uh Y thing over on the island. >> Mhm. >> Right. When you come from the other side, >> that's the goofiest goofy >> thing that is out there. And so when we
we looked at that how many years ago council and looked at that and I think a few other spots and the funny thing is there's like there's no accidents and so the county won't do anything unless there's accidents >> right >> and so when we were you know talking to this lady I'm like well we can throw up a trailer but I mean unless people get a
lot of accidents nothing's probably going to happen. So >> which is good news they're not >> which is good. Yeah. So again, I I had a a guy, he's actually my neighbor now that used to live downtown uh right across from Surfside Restaurant, and he would, you know, let
me know, hey, there's a lot of people speeding all the time. So then we put speed, >> uh deals up there, and same thing like the data surprisingly does not come back that bad. You always get a couple randos, but >> for the most part, it's pretty compliant across the board. >> Yeah. Well, maybe you should put one on
Commerce between uh Tonka Wood and and Balsam because there's someone with a motorcycle at 10 o'clock every night who revs it up >> and runs around. See, >> it's a noise complaint. >> It's a noise, but it's also speed >> because they're going pretty fast. You can tell. >> Yeah. >> Anyway,
>> the trailers are good. They just show us the statistics of thing. You know, the hard part is, and I think I've said it before, is, you know, we can sit there >> and if you have a good traffic officer does a lot of traffic, they can tell a speeder by watching them. >> Um, but it always looks faster than what
it is. And it's just like an optical illusion that just sometimes like you'll see, oh wow, that looks fast. You'll hit your radar to check it and it's not actually going that fast. So, >> but any plot cameras in mound? >> Yes. Well, >> yeah, >> we do.
>> Spring Park. in Spring Park. >> Yes. >> I don't know. Do we have >> I don't think we have any here. I would I'd have to I don't I'm pretty sure we don't have any set up inside the >> inside the mound city limits. >> I I don't for sure it's right by the
Henipin County. >> There's a sheriff. >> Yeah, there's one over there. >> Control. >> We just talked about this police. >> There's one up in the bar, too. Right there where Culver's and that intersection. >> Well, the council got the flat camera up on
at Smithtown Road, >> you know, disbanded so they could do some research for a year. >> Yep. >> So that's why I've had a couple phone calls people asking if we have any in mounted. I'm like, I don't think so. But >> no, I don't recall any being up at this point. Um if we do, we have a portable
one that actually is trailered. So if there's a complaint, we move them just to >> see what why they, you know, what they need to know and that's about it and we remove it within a couple weeks. So, um, Memorial Day is coming up. After Memorial Day, the lot at Surfside will
be reconfigured so that we can, uh, mitigate the trailer parking that's going back in this year. Um, and then my guys are the officers have already been active in there. I know one of my officers on Saturday night or Sunday night wrote three tickets in there. So
he they are out there >> trying to to divert that stuff and keep people out. So >> when does the trailer park doesn't that start at Memorial Day though? >> No, it starts in April. >> Oh, it does start in April. >> It's already started. So >> Okay. >> So that was that was on a >> Saturday or Sunday then.
>> Mhm. >> Okay. >> And it just goes >> Saturday, Sunday holidays. >> Yeah. >> Through Labor Day. Through Labor Day. Yeah. >> Or no, what is it? I believe it wasn't it through um November. I'll have to double
in there. >> Made a new sign. >> Do we have a new sign yet down there, Ryan? >> Yeah, we have signs. >> No, but I mean, he's got a new machine. He's making pretty shiny. >> We just made it. >> We just made two years ago. >> So, okay. >> And and another one added last summer.
There's so many signs down there. I'm sure nobody reads any of them, but at least we have a, you know, recourse state. Well, there's a sign, right? >> But there is a sign. >> There is a sign. >> Yes. >> Yeah. So, um, and just the last thing, last night at the Orno City Council, we
got a new, um, police chief of police, um, has been hired officially now. So, we will have a new chief as of June 1st. >> Can we say his name yet? >> I'm assuming so. I >> Well, it was public last night, right? >> Yeah. As soon as I >> I've been trying to say the name, but I
can't say the name. So, >> yeah, it's His name is Chad Stenzout. >> Oh, really? >> So, um, I've worked with him before. So, >> um, he's been an officer here before. So, um, >> he was what, 16 years, >> I believe. So, yeah, >> Mound before. >> Oh, really? He was in the mound
department. >> He wasn't Well, or sorry, >> he was Orno. >> Okay. >> Prior. >> So, >> Oh, well, Mound still had theirs. He was working at the Orno department. Oh, that's cool. >> So, >> and then he left to >> uh Robbinsdale. >> Robbinsdale for four years. >> Yep. He's a captain.
>> As a captain. So he's got outside experience and then he came back >> or well he wants to come back. So we >> you know the interview group was >> like that. >> Oh that yeah that's exciting. And when is um Corey Vornniac's >> party?
>> Uh oh his party May 20th I believe. >> 28th. >> Okay. When is it? >> The 28th 28th. Sorry. >> No I was just looking at it. >> Yeah. Thank you. >> Cool. Any other questions for him? And oh, just I don't know if I'll make it back, but uh June 9th we have that
copying cops at >> Oh, that's right. >> at 8 a.m. >> So, I at this time I was told there it wasn't going to be an introduction to the new chief or anything cuz he's going to have a lot going, but he may be there. So, just so you know, it's just coffee and cops. >> So, just so people know how this came
about. Last time I requested, you know, to do copy and cop at Caribou and, you know, we had a lot of people show up uh that were part of, you know, the cops. >> Yeah. >> Uh we had, you know, a few onlookers,
but it wasn't very well attended because we didn't advertise it terribly well. Plus, it's 7:30 in the morning. But, um, anyway, the the caribou manager requested this one on his own. So, I'm not I won't be able to attend it, but if any of you guys could because I'll be
out of town, but if anybody else could show up, that'd be cool. And then, >> is it June 9th? >> Uh, it's June 9th at >> 8 a.m. >> 8 a.m. And then we're going to advertise a little bit better um on our social. >> It's already gone out and so yeah. >> So, hopefully we can get some more
people join. >> And we did get an invite to it, too. >> Yeah. Email us. So, >> okay. And then we'll probably do a more official one maybe with him or >> maybe he'll come out to our council meeting. We can get introduced that way or something. >> He may come out one night in my place or something or come out with me. So,
>> yep. Cool. >> Great. Thank you. >> All right. Anything else? >> No. Thanks. Appreciate you. >> Have a good night. >> Thank you. >> All right. Number 6C, we got Avon Park Survey. Ryan. >> Yay. Mayor, council members, sorry about my
absence last meeting. I was under the weather, but >> welcome back. >> That information. Um, so the surveys went out and what we got back was a strong demand of younger families and grandparents with toddlers,
preschooler age, overwhelming preference of swings, slides, climate structures, and repeatedly asked for shade and caregiving seating. Uh, 18 actually response. I got another one
this week. Uh 12 had ch uh had children or grandchildren. Five supporting improvements. Five would use several times a week. Uh mostly elementary or younger age
group. Uh frequently used several times a week. I think uh gets a lot of evening use. Uh the number one thing actually was surprising to me is uh shaded caregiver
seating. So uh similar to what we have at Safeside was something. So there's not a ton of trees. Um later in this you'll see they they don't want us putting more trees in. They want the green space. So I think they what
they're looking for is some kind of shade structure or some kind of shade over a bench or two. M >> uh swings came in as number two. Um some of the big things on here, swings, slides, climbing structures, uh monkey
bars, ground level play. Uh it's all typical stuff. There wasn't anything really unique that anybody was asking for. Uh the back stop. Uh not a lot of response on it, but I think uh there's
enough that we should keep it in place. I'd like to replace it with a new updated blackcoated fence, but same location and better in better condition. Um I actually drove by there last week and there's a couple kids in the evening
playing ball. Uh so I know it actually does get used. Great. Uh, a couple notable comments. Uh, somebody's looking for rubber surface. As we talked about that in one of the earlier meetings cost really is
prohibited to do that. We're all the neighborhood parks. We're doing the engineered wood fiber or it's not called mulch, but it looks like mulch. Um, sand no longer is going to be in play because it's not ADA accessible.
Um, basketball courts is another thing. People wanted a full-size one. We have a half a basketball court there. It was redone about 5 years ago. We're not really looking to do any improvements because other half of the people don't want the
green space taken up. So, >> uh, with how new it is and eating up more green space with the play structure, we don't want to eat up even more green space with a bigger basketball court. So key highlights uh there's strong family demand with younger children.
Three pieces of equipment that are uh that dominate the the surveys were swings, slides, and climbing structures. Uh the number one thing asked for was uh shade with a caregiver seating area and uh green space and open lawn areas
preserved. Those one another takeaway. So after tonight, my plan is to start reaching out to playground companies and giving them some time with a budget to do some design work, which from your direction, I think I would
take back to the parks commission, get some direction from them, and then come back to you guys for frontal approval on options, unless directed otherwise. So, how many uh surveys did you send out because 18 seems like a really small
amount of responses? >> I'll tell you that's actually a pretty strong response. >> I sent out 150 lead and copper responses and I got about 12 back. >> So, to make all these expensive changes for 18 responses, this
>> How many did you send out? >> Uh it was over 50 and we did the >> surrounding area. Yep. So 20 out of 50 is pretty good. >> That's really good. >> If you only sent out 50, that's not bad. >> You know, we should we should look at
devoting one whole park to just swings since it takes up so much green space and everybody loves swings. >> You know, it'd be cool to have one park and just go to it and just have a billion different cool swings. >> You know, down at Surfside,
90% of the time they're on swings. That's what's being used. >> Yeah. Well, that's definitely one of the things that everybody wanted to keep. I know the current swings at Avon Park are from the original playground. So, they're
>> well past Well, they're well past their life. >> The good old days swings >> and I think they're about this tall. >> Doesn't really fit a lot of people's needs. >> What's the budget for this park?
total we were at I can't remember if it was 100 or 110, but that also includes if we need to put in a pet ramp and a walking trail, the surround the mulch. Um, we haven't really broken down where
we need to be at for the play equipment yet. when they design is it kind of part of the what design it plus is like the design kind of built into the price of the the rest of the stuff that you'll buy from them.
>> So last year's project what I did was we reused the surround and then I had them bed out the play structure, the installation and the fiber. Okay. >> So when they were done we walked away with 99% of a park. We still are
finishing up the trail this spring that needs to go in for that park to make accessibility for ADA. >> So when when you send this out for to design, are you doing multiple places or just one? >> We're doing multiple places. >> Multiple places. They come back, >> we figure out which one we like the best
and then plus they include the costa to do all that. Correct. >> With their Yep. >> group. Okay. >> Last year what I did is I went to three different playground companies and I told them, "Bring me three of your best designs." >> Yeah. And here's your criteria that you need to meet. This is how much we're
going to we have to spend on the playground equipment. I have to have uh the install in installation and you know as part of it and I had to have the fiber as part of it. >> Cool. >> And then they came back with our
selections. I went to parks commission for suggestions and then I brought those guys to you. >> Awesome. >> And colors were there in a factor. we can they have every color under the sun. So, >> right, >> Brian, I know I've read this in a spreadsheet, but how much um is has
already been set aside for the budget for this park? >> That's what we were talking about is either 100 or 110. I don't have >> So, we already have that set aside, pardon me. >> Yes, that was budgeted this year for this park. So, but that will also be, like I said,
a ped ram, a walking path to the to the uh play structure, the fence that we would replace, uh the new surround for the play structure, the actual playground equipment, the installation, and the fiber.
>> So, >> you feeling pretty confident that they're going to get all that done for that? >> Yes. >> Oh, good. >> And do we have to have a hardcape going leading to the playground? They can't just walk through the grass anymore. >> Or is that an EVA? >> We should have some sort of accessibility into the park.
>> We should have a we should have a path that's there there's curb all the way around that park, >> right? >> And there there is a on the far end of the park, opposite of the play structure, there is a access road or walking path.
>> You could bring in a wheelchair and then go all the way across the grass. What we're envisioning is a pet ramp close parked or up against the curb line and have a short path up to the play structure >> and then that existing path that's
already there that'll stay. >> Yes. Yes. That's on the other side of the green space. >> So, is there a handicap parking space anywhere around that park? >> We don't have any parking spots called out, but the park side of the road
>> is parking. So, we could stripe the the curb line next to the path >> after we're done. >> That's what our open up a spot, but Yeah. >> Yeah. From the path from the parking spot to there. >> Whichever is the shortest distance to
help us keep our cost down. >> Do we want to uh talk about the colors? I mean, you know, we when we did Chester, we went to blue and white and a lot of our parks are green and yellow, I
think, with some oranges. Do we want to keep those colors or do we want to maybe systematically make all the parks blue and white? It's just a thought. >> Versus yellow and white. >> Well, they're yellow, orange, and green.
I like blue and white, but >> yeah, >> I know the blue and white was the direction because Jester overlooked the lake >> lake, right? >> Um, I would make the recommendation we wait until we see what kind of designs we have. >> Okay. >> Just because >> if they end up doing like a rock style
play structure, you might not want that blue or white, you know, >> it depends on what they come to the table with for what price range we're in, >> right? And there is enough room for us to have swings in this one. >> Correct. >> Yeah. Okay.
>> The shape of the surround will change because we'll have to have the fall areas. >> Yeah. >> But we have we have some room towards the >> towards the road. Not that we want the play structure to towards the road, but there's enough there that they can come
out a couple feet. And then we'll go back into the green space a couple feet just to make sure we have that fall area for any swings. All right. Any other questions? >> All right. Do you need any official thing or you're good?
>> Oh, we're good. I'll I'll start submitting stuff to companies and wait for some feedback. >> All right. Awesome. >> Thanks, Ryan. >> Thanks. >> All right. Number 5D. We're going Lost Lake Commons Amenities. Ryan.
>> All right. Lost Lake Commons. Um, I went to about 10 parks last week. I took a whole bunch of pictures of amenities and different ideas to show you guys uh to see what direction we want to go for final touches. Uh, some of this stuff
was pulled out of the plan phase one or in between phase two. I'm kind of lost memory wise on where things got pulled out, but uh this was the master plan. As you can see in the top
left, the the concrete didn't get poured and the uh with the I don't know the winding shape. It's more squared off. >> Yeah. and we moved the structure to a phase three
uh the lower seating area that changed because we went with uh concrete there instead of reusing the old uh bricks. >> Mhm. >> Um the >> Oh, there you go. >> This is
>> that's phase >> kind of where we are currently. >> That's phase >> this is uh phase two with some 2.0, know, I guess stuff done, too. >> Yeah. >> Um, this is more where we're at now. Uh, down below the deck, the deck got red
decked last week. >> That's almost complete. We still have, uh, >> we still have turf and punchless items to take care of. Let's see. I have a list here and I'm freestyling here. >> Did they find any structural issues underneath the decking?
>> No. Good. >> Couple boards that need to be replaced, but nothing major. It was in very good shape. I had I was down there when they had 90% of it ripped off. >> Yeah. >> Nice. >> Um, so phase two was uh electrical and
lights. Some of that went in. Uh, it's that's also getting finished up in the next two weeks here. >> Yeah. They were putting poles in today when I went through there. >> Yep. Yep. Some of the bigger the bigger lights, the taller ones for the trail are >> are here now. So, they're going to work
start working on install of that. Uh, we still have uh I said deck replace some great small grading areas for some drainage. Wayfinding signs are ordered. You guys >> worked on that.
>> Um, some punch list items. The mound harbor district sign will be changing over to Lost Lake Commons. Um, Bton M is getting that priced out >> currently. uh part of last year's irrigation went in um which was I'll say
a nightmare with the electrical that went in too cuz >> there was a a lot of uh unknowns in that area. Um, we did some of the planting, I'll say to the left of the concrete
walkway or the plaza. Uh, and there's some now on the right side of it. Everything to the far right, which would be the art block area or whatever we're calling it,
>> um, still yet to be done in the future. >> That would be a phase three addition. Uh that's kind of where we're at now. Uh some of the things we're going to look at. Go next slide.
Uh are I pulled together pictures of tables, swings, chairs, statues, and some other fun ideas. Things I'd like to talk about are what do we want to see in the park, colors and shapes of chairs and tables, how many, when do we want
them, where do we want them, and things we want to do in the park, and any other ideas you guys have. So, uh, before any questions, I'd like to work through all the pictures and we can go back to any slides you guys would like. >> Uh, a lot of these came >> turn off the light a little bit above
it so see the pictures. Yeah, >> uh these are kind of just some miscellaneous things that I saw when I was out. Uh the baseballs are some statues in uh Delano. Uh the statue to the right is another
statue along the river in Delano. And then up in Rockford, uh, their bike stands were actually these leaves. >> Um, in Carver, uh, they had permanent
concrete, uh, bag or, uh, whatever you call boards for bags. >> Uh, they have a concrete polished, uh, ping pong table with a, stainless steel >> net. Interesting. >> Uh, just some ideas. I thought maybe I
know we had talked about hammocks in the past and we do don't take up very much room to have a couple of frisbee. I know we couldn't have a whole course or anything but >> we talked about that one time in parks commission.
>> Okay. >> Uh one thing that was brought to the attention is maybe having a fun unique photo opportunity type thing in the park. Uh Plymouth has this in front of their city hall, the the round swinging bench.
Uh a lot of cities do the the huge chair. Uh one idea that I thought was uh the sailboat could be made into uh a larger chair with maybe an emblem on it and a great photo opportunity somewhere
in the in the park. Uh Delano and Fireman's Park in Chaza both have different types of swings overlooking water. Um next
uh the top orang-ish chairs are Carver Park that they have uh are in Carver at their new park that they have in a couple different spots. And the more lay down ones were what Delano did
overlooking the the river. Uh there's obviously tons of different types of tables out there. We would like to stay away from wood just for maintenance. We have a lot of wood picnic tables in town. Uh whether we
want to go with metal or we want to go with recycled. Uh, I think the original master plan called out for the seating area down by the lake to be more of octagon style or round table >> like six of them. Uh, I don't know what
you guys are going to want to do in the plaza area or the big open area, but you know, six to eight tables in there would not eat that up at all cuz that's a huge space, >> right? Um,
and I know we've talked about fire pits multiple times and I came across this up in Maple Grove. Uh, they actually have a city gas fire pit with signage emergency shut off. It's only used when when they
have events and there's a city staff on site when they do it. >> So, just some options and some things for you guys to think about. And >> when do you want to have concrete plants. I mean, is this a workshop we need to do?
>> So, th this member last meeting, I was like, you know, now that we got this beautiful park, let's fill it with something to do because you can't do anything. >> Well, you have to sit down, >> right? Yeah. >> So, we punted last year, you know, exactly what we wanted to have in there.
In other words, like chairs and stuff. So, >> uh the three of us met last week and we said, "Okay, well, what exactly do we want to have it look like?" Um, so like the Plymouth one when I did that mayor deal over at the Plymouth the debate thing, whatever. >> Um, it's actually kind of cool. It's not
a great picture, but it's uh >> No, no, it's a good picture. You can't see the detail, I guess. Sorry, Ryan. We were trying to find one online and it was not easy to find one. So, he's like, I'm going to drive up there. Um, but
it's actually really cool. That would be obviously a different type of expense to have it custom done, but I'm thinking like >> kind of like what you were thinking before too, like the whole Tonka thing, like let's do something with Mound, right? Mound related. And so someone
could sit in that little chair somewhere in that park and take a picture or do a big chair like that but have the city of M logo on there. You know why is that or I don't know where that is but you know to actually um you know brand us a little bit right. So if people want to
take a picture they have >> I actually have a full presentation I've had since literally November of last year. >> Okay. for that area for a huge destination photo op >> completely different from what >> we I just put together really roughly.
So maybe I could present that at the next meeting >> so we can discuss >> it. It would be a huge destination attraction and homage to Tonka too. So the whole Tonka thing though
with the rights of the name and then some people in the town don't want Tonka. >> Some people are not happy with the Tonka name. So I think having a >> I I'd say personally going smaller on the Tonka theme would be better. >> Why don't I just present it? We'll we'll
we'll get a feeling for how people >> I'd like to see your presentation. I've been asking you for a long time about it. But um also, you know, we know that that from the signage that we're having done, this area was a transportation hub.
>> Mhm. >> And so what about something with um the the boat taxis or with the train or, you know, something like that too could be another
um attraction that could be done. Um or I've even thought about, you know, what if you have um Weisetta has that big frame, which it's it's okay, but it's not a good idea, >> but but what about if we had something a
little bit more like, you know, where you put your head in the picture and you're part of a a scene like maybe a taxi, the boat taxi, >> and you get the family places where their heads can go and be on the boat taxi. So, something like that. um which
would bring some art into the park as well, >> right? >> But right now the park is really I mean I've been there the last week three times >> and it's it's wonderful space. It's huge space but it's it's a blank pallet, >> right?
>> And we need some trees. We need something vertical in it. >> Um >> we also need something to do there. And that's the whole point. >> Swings. That swing thing sounded kind of interesting. >> Uh oh, that one. >> Well, I can't.
>> Well, I think we need to focus on just getting some seating in place. >> People can go on a picnic and go, you know, that's what they used to love to do. >> That's what people did before. >> People to went and had lunch there and they would sit there for hour or two.
So, I I think we need to concentrate on some seating. Can you go back to the picnic table part? >> I was going to make a couple comments on that too after you're done there. >> Th this the green one, the green or the one on the bottom, you know, as long as it's, you know, plastic or >> recycled. >> It's coated metal, isn't it?
>> So, we don't have to worry about it. But >> that drains, so that will help with >> rusting and water retention and things. >> This idea was in our original plan, >> right? >> So, my whole thing is like I I don't want to wait. I don't by the
time we workshop this again and four more times and then it's like next year and then so like let's get some seating at least >> we can do big picture items later >> and like workshop and then maybe >> do those at towards the end of this year because it's going to take forever. I mean you can get these ordered in a couple weeks, right?
>> We can have them at downtown. And I know we're it's a mess down there right now because >> this summer. >> Yeah. >> And they're where are you where are you thinking of where were the original plants? down by the >> down by the >> and the big >> the stage area
>> and the big part up by the Dakota Trail too. >> Here's where we call out for about six of those tables. >> And then there's plenty of room there and we could do eight tables. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, it makes sense to do that right
next to each other. >> Long and too wide and it at least feel like we have something there, >> right? I actually uh went down there today and somebody had just pulled down and parked in that area. So, I'm going to look at getting some kind of we can't block it off with
anything permanently cuz it's >> technically the fire act entrance in case there's a fire at our Tessa. >> But they have like ballers. I'm looking at like tan or black ones with some reflective on it. And they have a rubber base and they could just move them out of the way
>> if there was an emergency. But we got to do something to get people to stay off of. >> Right. Right. >> Like that's not a parking lot. >> Once you put picnic tables or something then >> hopefully that Yeah, that helps. >> Are you thinking picnic tables up in that area? You know, one point we talked about chairs.
>> The original up there was supposed to be the aderond. And then a couple non, you know, more friendly chairs. >> Um, and then you can see a little circle. There's we didn't do the gas and we didn't do the the fire uh pit, right,
because of a lot of different reasons. So, we're we could bring one in and out on certain events, but we wouldn't have one permanently there as as we get eight tables to put on there >> and you guys decide to do something else in that area. >> The table, >> we can disperse those eight tables easily throughout that park
>> and there's going to be people that will use them everywhere. Yeah, >> exactly. >> So, the big thing is, >> I mean, I personally would like to If we can figure out, can we approve one of those designs roughly and a color? What kind of color do we like? And can we
just get some some stuff? >> Yeah, >> maybe get a couple aderand, you know, six of them or something. And then >> the anorandic. >> No, we're going to do both. We're going to do both because there's other people that do want those. And there's other I said aderandic and nonor. So, you can sit in one, too. It's because, you know,
I got I got seniors who wrote me specifically. >> There's going to be both. There's going to be both. >> They make those chairs that are more upright, too, so you don't have to sit down into them. >> Yeah. >> So, Jesse, I think I said >> it's the same idea, but just doesn't have that low
>> drop. Sorry. >> Like envisioning like by the 4th of July, like do we give ourselves a goal of like we want Okay. >> Like I want to get them done. >> Tables and chairs. >> I get that delivered in two weeks. >> No, I know. I get there's construction. >> Yeah. But yeah, I mean now >> middle of May. So I'd want them by the
middle of June if we could. That'd be great. >> Sure. >> Um, >> nobody's going to go down there if they don't even >> No, there's nothing to do down there. >> No, there's nothing to do. You can at least >> again I I don't know if we can agree right now on a color or scheme for at least aderond the non-Aderic and the
picnic tables. Well, I' I'd make a motion that we go ahead and order the tables for the pavilion area and for the the other area >> as you stated. Um, >> do you like what you see in the pictures?
>> Yeah. >> Recycled with a metal base. >> I kind of feel strongly on the the the no mesh. I think they look cheap. >> I do. And I know you don't want wood, but there's like that. Um, >> this is the recycled, >> you know, that brand where it looks like
wood. It's compressed. >> It will never rot. >> That's what these are. >> Actually, that the straight tables. >> Uh, that's all composits. >> Those look great >> with a metal black base. >> And then this was just one that I picked out online that was similar to it. That
was the octagon style, but I think you can get those with the metal base and then the the recycled or composite on top. I can be happy with all the other ones except for the mesh. >> Yeah, I I like the neutral. >> And the mesh only comes in like green, red, black,
and blue. So, there was nothing that really went with the color theme of the park. >> Yeah. Only thing about that is when people spill their ice cream from >> Right. >> Yeah. >> So, that lower table >> cleans it up easier. >> Uh doesn't come in just an engineered natural wood.
>> Lower left or lower right? >> But the lower right That one does. >> You want it to have the same top as the one on the lower left. >> I think that would look nice to have everything neutral. >> And I think that's probably a little more >> that's probably the closest to natural you're going to get. There might be a
deeper brown, but it all depends on I just looked at a couple different companies. I can reach out to Carver and see where who they bought those from, the the straight tables and >> but I didn't research all the different places we could we could find. I just
trying to get you guys some examples. >> If each area just matched, >> they have all kind of matching. >> Yeah. Each area matched. >> Yep. >> Like if all the octagon tables are the same and then all the rectangles are the same, that'd be fine. >> Mhm. So, are we doing for sure the one on the right? Right. Bottom right. >> The bottom right
>> in a darker color. >> Yeah. >> Mhm. >> So, we're going to do >> look alike. >> And then are we doing the ones on the left >> for the picnic tables? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And where are we going to put those? >> Up at the upper >> top part. That would probably help have people not drive on a couple there and then a couple around it.
>> He said he could put like six of them up there and with plenty of room to >> try to find there's tables out there. Should the turb like a combination of both? >> Okay. >> I think I mean once they get there we can do them anywhere. But you said up on
top you could fit at least six right now. >> Six or eight. >> Six with room to spare. >> Yeah. >> But we still want just regular chairs to sit in too. I think you are going to be fine with even if we went with eight. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, how many how many on the bottom right are we
>> for the >> and that's down by the pavilion area. >> I will say we we >> the original called out for six. >> Yep. We do have a we did a motion in the floor too. So, I I'd like to clarify whether we're going to pull that back or or um vote on that.
>> What was your motion again? >> My motion was to to do the tables. it. I didn't specify what types of tables. I didn't >> just to make a decision >> that to make a decision to do the six tables on the lower part and eight >> uh on the upper
>> picnic tables. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But then do you want to add We want chairs too up there. >> Chairs. Well, >> you want me to make the motion? >> I I think we should do some adotic and some not. So people can
>> we can do some chairs >> or benches. >> We can do all of it. >> Really? >> Well, I'm just saying like for now just to get some stuff down there. >> Well, okay. >> We can we can fine-tune the benches and like the nicer >> and the chairs >> stuff on the side of the trail. >> Yeah.
>> But are I mean are you comfortable with what four to six and then maybe two non aderonic? >> Maybe >> or half and half. for a lot of chairs. >> Ryan, >> how many when you get to buying the tables, are you going to be able to
bring the other thing is that you have to realize when you start >> people will bring their own chairs. >> Yeah. >> Depends on the company though. It >> might just be pictures hanging out. But it'd be nice to be able to see, you know, if you have three color to decide on tables.
>> Well, she's got even if you send them out via email. >> Okay. >> Okay. I'll say the the tables plus >> up to eight chairs half and half. Okay. Eight eight eight chairs half aderon half non. >> So we could do two two fours or you know
or split them however you want. >> Can we see an example of an anorandic that's not hard to get in and out of? I mean the new go to the chairs. It'd be more. That one's not as deep down left and the top right is more of
an upright, too. >> I mean, I know there's some in Excelsier right there on the corner >> that have they're I think they're black, maybe, which might be too dark. But >> what about the ones on the patio? Cuz those have a It's not upright. Some that
>> one on the up. Is that wood or wood? >> We want these to match the tables kind of or Yeah. Yeah, I like >> we're going to be close. I can't promise you that I'm going to find a company that's going to have everything you guys are looking for and I'll have the
matching color. >> Well, I mean there and everything will will be far enough apart like the tables. If they're not exactly matching, they're far enough apart they won't notice. >> We'll try to get the table the straight tables and the chairs as close as
possible. Or >> we could go a darker brown on one and a lighter brown on the other. So they contrast. >> Yeah. >> Because if we're not if we can't match it, it's better to contrast than to try to have something that just a little bit off.
>> So with all this since we technically had a plan last year. >> Yeah. >> I mean, are you are we good with just an motion to staff that? >> I think we're fine. >> So what is the motion? >> All right. So finish. >> So my motion is
>> Thank you, Kevin. >> All right. I'll do it. six chairs on the lower um >> six tables >> tables. Eight tables um the rectangular ones up above and um a mix of of chairs
preferably like the one in the upper right. >> You want to say how many chairs comfortable? >> Oh, eight. >> Eight chairs top right. >> That one does not look comfortable. >> No, it doesn't look comfortable at all. Personally, I like that more than the
the ones you sit down in. >> Okay. >> They're easier to get in and out of. Is that um engineered wood, too? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Okay. So, we have a motion. >> Pick a good looking one. >> That's my motion. >> If you're comfortable getting in and maybe share, you see if you like getting in and out of it and just go for it.
>> Just get eight chairs. If if you mix and random, go for it. If if you feel like it's better just to not then do that. >> And we want them to be natural with color. Is that part of the motion? >> All right. So, we got our motion. Yeah, we have a motion. Yeah, >> need a second. >> Second. All right, got a second. Any
other discussion? >> I would I would only say if you have three color choices, I would love for him to have Jesse at least email us so we can say, "Yeah, we like one, two, or three." >> Sure. >> You know, choice >> and then try to match the picnic tables
with the oct octagon tables. >> Scott, does that need to be brought? >> I think there's enough direction by two staff to do that. I think the motion is just to go ahead and >> order them. >> Order them. >> Um but with understand I think it's beyond that I think from discussion
um I don't think you have to have that in the motion. >> Yeah. >> The idea though is black on the bottom and a natural tone brown or tan on top. >> Darker if possible. >> Yes. >> Awesome. And like I said, if I can't match a table and the chairs that are
going to be next to each other, do something that's a contrast that would look nice. >> Yes. >> Got it. That's easy. I can do that. >> Thank you. I got a motion and a second. Any other discussion on top of that? >> Thank you for pulling that together. Thank you. >> All right. Hearing none, can I get a motion?
>> Uh motion to >> add a second. Right. >> All those in favor, please say I. >> I. Those opposed. All right. That passes. Thank you, Ryan. >> Ryan, when do you think? >> Let's go right to motion to adjurnn. I mean a month or two. >> No, >> no, it will not take a month or two. Um,
>> it it depends on what company I >> hopefully within within a couple weeks. Two, three, two, three, four. >> It all depends on what's in stock. >> Cool. >> Um, and what colors we pick. I >> June 15th. >> It's spring, so they should have stuff.
>> They should have stuff on hand and we just have to slap together as quick as possible. >> Yeah. >> So, >> cool. Then let's schedule a test. >> Uh or do you want to just do it at the next meeting? >> Your presentation for the next >> I can either present or we can just do
it at a workshop. I don't care. >> Would you do a workshop? >> I I No, I'm happy to present here too. >> Well, we could do our next meeting. We could do a workshop before and we could brainstorm in there a little bit. >> Yeah. >> You want to do that? >> Yeah.
>> Everybody okay with that? Five o'clock. >> I might not be at our next meeting. I like the idea of the bags tournaments down there too. >> I do too. And I really like that >> it or just >> is that a ping pong table? That's >> it'd be if you guys want to look at any of this grandson
>> or fleet farm vis come across the bridge presentation. >> The first street is the quick trip. The next street is the elementary school. The parks are elementary school. could have like fundraising back. I don't remember the name that would be really fun,
>> but they just built that park last year and it's it's beautiful. >> Which one? >> I haven't been to it, but I've seen one car. >> Oh, carver. Yeah, I've heard the carver is really nice. I haven't been there. >> You know that um ping pong table. Is that made out of cement? >> Yeah, you could.
>> Yeah, >> possibly like a >> Give people something to do with it. >> It almost looks marble, but I think it's a concrete that's like polished. >> Well, it's really cool. So they did like they exposed it and then like >> and then polished it. So >> really fun.
>> I can get a lot of those details from the Carver public works and figure out where they purchase a lot of >> I mean that would be really fun to talk about our workshop placement of those because that would really bring people down. >> We have plenty of space up by that in that area where we're going to put those
straight tables. Yes. >> That would be really cool. The other thing we didn't talk about is whether people like this or not, but you know those little bars where there's like a run of like, you know, push-up bar or pull-up bar. >> Oh, yeah. >> Um I was thinking up by the trail, you
know, you can stop stop your bike for a minute, right? And you can go do your little push-up bar, pull bar >> workout. >> It's a workout thing, but it's just a little run. >> It's like four to six. >> Yeah, I've seen >> individual things. >> I was thinking throwing those would be not a bad idea, too. They're everywhere
down in Florida. You know, you know, on the beach, you can go and swing your whole way down the beach on those things. >> Not to extend this, but I just thought of something. >> Uh the line in between the parking lot and that walking area. What would we think about just two bike racks down
there >> cuz they can easily slide those out of the way? That's a good idea. >> I wouldn't have anything mounted down, but >> you're talking about the parking lot and the and the path and the >> Let me go back to the map. So they'd be temporarily
>> temporarily until we get all the stuff. >> Well, permanent leave it there useful. It's just something light enough that if they have to pull a truck in, they're going to shove that out of the way and they can drive right by. >> Okay. >> I can't do anything permanent like a boulder or anything because >> there's a fire access.
>> But the I think that's a really good solution. And we need bike racks down there. Yeah, because there's only there's only like four a couple of them by the >> by the bus terminal and then there's like eight >> on the other end.
>> Plus, match the rest of the equipment. >> We can we can look at that after we get the tables and figure out. One one last thing on a different part. >> Uh, Surfside Side, there's always that orange cone there
>> with Phil's backup. Remember Phil? Remember Phil? >> Oh, yeah. >> He wanted to do that little backup. >> Are we talking down by the ramp that passed? >> No, I'm It's in the parking lot. And he wanted a back a backup uh thing so you could back up and park.
>> I know what you're talking about. >> Yeah. And then now we have now we put a cone there and every time I go to work I'm like it looks like it's under construction. So, Can we get rid of that cone here >> or get something more >> something different? Yeah, it's >> it's an considered an ADA path to from
>> but like I talked to you guys the the movable like ballard I could get something that's black and looks nicer that or brown and it looks nicer or something >> that is still 88 because >> there's enough room for it to get by but we have people driving into the park. >> I like the bike rack idea. >> That was why we put something there. Yeah.
>> Well, I think we shouldn't have even done that in the first place, but anyway. >> Well, I you know, >> that curb is actually so high >> that they had to have some kind of entrance from that driveway. >> But that's just goes on the grass, isn't it? >> Yeah. Technically, they can go on that.
>> Yeah. Anyway, take the cone out and put something else there that's not orange. >> Okay, sounds good. >> Thanks. >> Thank you. Thanks for the nice work put together. >> Yeah, good job. All right, number uh six. We got consent agenda. Does someone want to go through those?
>> I can. >> Okay. >> Consent agenda. A. Minutes of the April 20, 2026 city council regular meeting. B. Approve resolution 2633 approving public gathering permit
for the bass bass clash on Friday, August 7th. Um for use of Surfside Park and Beach as weigh-in station for fishing contest. Uh C. Approve resolution number 2634 approving public gathering permit for the 2026
Min OC summer adventure race on Saturday, July 11th, 2026 that includes only a few roads um in mound for that event. D approved resolution number 2635 approving sign variation modification for building murals
>> at the bright spot on Wilshshire Boulevard and e pay request number three for the water treatment infrastructure improvements phase two for $85,786 um for Matt Bman. >> All right, got our consent agenda. Does
anybody want to talk about those? I hear none. Can I get a motion to approve the consent agenda? >> Motion to approve. >> And can I get a second? >> Second. >> Okay. Roll call, please. >> Council member Heric. >> I. >> Council member Mcani. >> I.
>> Council member Pew. >> I. >> Council member Castellano. >> Hi. >> Mayor Holt. >> Hi. >> All right. Well, that's approved. >> You know what? We're still not doing a roll call until we get to here. >> I know. Well,
>> in the consent agenda that >> shouldn't we do it right um >> after the pledge of allegiance. >> Let's let's talk about that in a minute. >> Yeah. Okay. >> I I'll write that down to talk about >> before motions. >> Seven public hearing. We're not don't have any. Eight old business none. Nine
new business. A a award bid for 2026 street and utility improvements to GMH asphalt map. >> Thanks. Good evening, mayor, members of the council. Last Wednesday, we held the bids for the um street 2026 street and utility improvements project, which
consists of some reconstruction and some overlay. Watermade improvements. GH asphalt was the low bidder. Um and we had a couple pieces to each bid. So, we got base bid and alternate and a total GH was the low. I'll just go through the base bid piece and I'll get to that in a
second. um at 1,998,445.90. Um they were 20% lower than the engineers estimate which was right around 2.5 million. Uh was very competitive bidding. We had seven bidders. Um and then uh our recommendation is not to award the
alternate that was uh to reroute some storm sewer at Dutch Lake by the boat landing there. Um we're actually going to recommend the uh city complete that separately. got a different estimate for that to be completed. Um,
and so with that, GH did last year's 2025 project and that went well. They're responsible and responsive biders, so we'd recommend awarding to them. >> Okay. Does council have any questions? >> All right. We got a resolution here. Someone wanted to make a motion.
A motion to approve resolution number 2636 accepting bids for the 2026 street utility improvement project uh city project PW2601 and PW2602. >> Okay. Got a motion.
>> Second or >> um no you can as long as it's Yeah. As long as it's three. >> Okay. >> Oh, there he is. >> Oh, there he is. We're in the middle of a motion. I don't know if we had to illegally wait for you.
>> Come sit down, please. >> I could have waited. Sorry. >> Right. That's what I thought, but just in case >> as a courtesy. >> I'm glad you came here. >> We have a motion for this resolution. >> Um, and do we got a second? >> Second. >> Okay, we got a second. Uh, any other
discussion? All those in favor, please say I. I. >> I. Those opposed. All right, that passes. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> All right. Number 9A, we got uh B Lost Lake Channel Fishing Ordinance. And I'll just quickly
say this was in our last meeting. >> Um there's a no fishing sign down there and we were all kind of wondering why there's no fishing sign and it doesn't matter. Do we care? >> That's the gist of it. Uh, I found everything I could and I I asked the
people that were that happened to still be here from when the original ordinance was adopted and the minutes only reflect that a couple council members felt like it was dangerous to fish off of the peers and the greenway. So ultimately
I there's nothing stopping the council from changing it other than I just need to post for 10 days in order to change the ordinance. So, um, essentially, I think if the council wanted to allow it, we would just redact
the the fishing portion from the prohibited activities and allow for fishing in uh, Lost Lake Comments if that's what you want. >> Those signs only only say no fishing. There's nothing else. It's just the little ones right by the docks. >> Yeah. Okay.
>> I don't think there should be fishing down there. I mean, you know, with all the boats down there and the docks, the kids getting their >> uh lures stuck and everything, you know, I I I I'm not in favor of fishing down there. >> Okay.
>> We have enough open areas that for fishing that are set up for kids and adults fishing. I don't think the park down there is a good I think a lot of things could get ruined down there. I will kind of go with that. And we could
even adopt the um that's not the right word, you know, keep the no fishing down there, but change the sign to like go go to center view. >> We're going to have wayfinding signage. You turn around and be like just direct people there cuz >> that's one of many other spots where
people can go fish. >> Well, and also the the new fishing dock, you know, off Grand View, you know, that's just a beautiful fishing dock. I mean, it's not Dutch, but >> Yeah. I mean, honestly, I think we can all agree >> to be fished. >> We can all agree. I don't think it's really getting enforced.
>> So, that's my problem. And this this is when I first started >> encourage it. >> This is when I first started on council. And we had rules for snowmoiling, which we still have in our town >> to this day. And I said, "Why the hell do we have a rule and we don't enforce it?" >> Right. >> Yeah.
>> And we filled this whole deal with people that say, "Don't take my rights away." And um we ended up just saying, "Well, we won't enforce it." So I'm like, "Well, it's stupid. Why don't we just make it legal?" >> I agree. >> Um so my whole point of the whole
fishing thing is we put a sign on there and you know, there's nothing specifically in our code that says you can't do it. So if you really don't want to have fishing, I'd say we have to make that more official. Um I personally think that I don't care if people fish down there. I don't know if we need to
advertise it, but I would recommend just removing the sign. And if people want to fish there, great. If they don't want to fish there, >> but I think that's too arbitrary, >> you know. >> Well, we don't have to promote it. But we if if we're going to have a sign that says don't fish there,
all the again, all my f my kids friends and stuff, I mean, they don't go to fish there anyway. They're still going to do it no matter what if we have a sign or not. I mean, I've just never seen anybody fishing down there all the time once in a while. So, I didn't know that. >> Oh, they all fish down there and it's a great it's a great place to fish. I just
don't see why. Who cares? Let Let them fish a lake. I I don't care. >> And so, are they all on all those docks where all the boats? >> No, no, no. They're just right on the main >> the new deck part. >> Oh, the gazebo. >> We We would We would say that they can't
go down on the public docks. Yes. Get talking. >> That's what I thought we were talking about. I think we said no, you can't fish down in this part, but we take the sign off of the gazebo part and if you want to fish there, fish away. I don't who cares? >> Well, I didn't know people fish there.
>> I thought you were talking the main docks. So, thanks for clarifing to my docks, all the kids in the neighborhood. And I love them all. Go for it. Fish. I've let them for years. But you know, oftentimes I'll come down there and there's hooks stuck in the
canopies or stuck in the >> Yeah. >> And so and and they're too scared to tell you. So they just run off and you just discover these things. And I just don't want to damage other people's property >> with that kind of stuff. But >> if it's just off the little area, if
they do it now, I didn't know they did it. So >> they they do it and they'll still do it. Well, can't we put little signs down there that say no fishing beyond this point, no fishing down the path and no fish, you know, and leave the gazebo? >> That's what I'm saying. >> Yeah. >> So, Ryan has a comment. >> You want to talk?
>> I was just going to add people been fishing down there for years because we had two signs down there >> and I don't think we're going to see a lot more >> no >> damage or anything to boats or anything else. I can't guarantee that, but I'll
>> worend it down and they go down there >> and usually I see kids down there. It's youth that are looking for crappies or sunnies. >> It's it's a great place for crappies. >> Little thing for families and true
fishermen are probably going to go to other places in the city or be on. >> And so you're talking it's the gazebo they're fishing from. Oh, well I'm glad you guys clarified that because I assumed it was all those there is every now and then you'll see someone down >> most of those docks.
>> So there are locks on most of the docks ones. Yeah, >> I know. But but to the left of the deck absolutely no fishing to the right. >> What are we calling that? A >> transient. Transient docks. >> Yeah.
>> 90% of the time that's empty. >> I know. Nobody really >> nobody has ever boat in there. So if somebody's fishing there, >> we've never approached anybody. We don't even be >> randomly >> and they're just minding their own business. >> They're catching sunnies. >> Yeah.
>> To that point, can we not pass an ordinance that at least gives us the right to restrict that fishing on the boat docks, but not over >> I think that's only where the signs are now, >> right? >> Because I remember being on the left when they used to be like >> the signs had to change because of
Oh, >> name of the park and other stuff. They're not even up right now. >> Oh, >> so we were before we made signs again, we were going to see what direction you guys went with this. >> We could put QR tags on there leading to the website where the parks are listed.
You to find additional fishing spots, go here. >> I would just say >> remember in the signage in the the signage where it has all the parks listed >> on the way on the way finding there will be a code and the code will tell them. Well, I stand corrected. I sound like no
wet blanket. So, >> yeah, if they're just cute little kids fishing and stuff and they're not transients and things, you know, trying to fish for food, I'm cool. >> So, I I would say personally
>> on the the dock rentals, right? The ones to if you're looking at the left, >> I would say put a sign there. No fishing on these docks. These are mountain dock program. >> Yep. That's all I do. And we can always add a sign later to the other dock. Again, that other dock, nobody even goes
down there. Randomly, I'll see one or two down there, but barely ever. And it's it's all right on the thing. >> Mhm. >> Right where the decking is. >> And that's where you catch the fish. >> And it's a good spot. Oh, is it? >> Yeah. Well, it's it's little kids. It's 15 and under and they're catching and
they're throwing them back. And >> a cute little sign down there. >> If it turns out to be a problem, we can always change. >> Yeah. >> Put another sign. Sounds like >> I was mostly concerned with that area to the left. >> Yeah. Yeah. And I don't think we need to be partly can't
go if you go down towards >> gates. >> Yeah. They didn't motion to stop. >> So I'll just >> Oh, you have to do an ordinance. >> Well, yes. I'll just I so I think my the clarification is that um we'll come up with some a draft language
to say something essentially that it's allowed where posted or something like that. So it's not a free-for-all and so something straightforward. >> Okay. >> And you get what we're saying on the left side. That's the main thing. No. >> And then we can always add the right
side later. >> Well, doesn't our Tesla have docks on the right? Didn't we lease them, doc? >> They have private um that's they have some of the ones on the left like I forget how many the ones on the right are >> are the public ones. All public ones.
Okay. >> Okay. Are we roughly in agreement? Enough of us. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, come back to whenever >> 10 days. >> Yes. >> Okay. Thanks. >> All right. Number
10, we got announcements, comments, and reports from council members. And I know you wanted to talk about the roll call. >> Roll call. Oh, okay. Well, yeah. I just realized that when we went to the new agenda, which is really efficient, but
there's no roll call until we get down to um new business basically or consent consent calendar. And so shouldn't we at least maybe after the call to order or after the pledge of allegiance do at
least a roll call? >> So I preferred it that way. >> There was some recommendations from staff to change it because other cities do it this way. >> I will say after tonight and her sitting here for >> an hour I felt bad >> because she's waiting on one thing. Now
I know the staff says hey here's a deal. You're number seven. You're not number one. At the same point, then we're also paying our staff >> and we're also paying uh contractors, right? So, that was the other thought is like >> let's get them and get them out of here and
>> so we're not sitt letting them sitting around and paying them more. >> Taking the roll call is just >> No, but that the problem is it doesn't always turn out to be that way and then it could be a big debate and >> are we referring to literally doing a roll call of attendance? >> Sorry, of attendance. Well, I think the
consent agenda I don't for >> that hasn't moved. At least since I've been here, we >> No, we're I think >> what I was under impression was the consent agenda has moved. >> That has moved. >> That has moved. >> Do we want to move it back? Right. >> No, no, no. I don't want to move it back. >> I'm just saying that
>> that, you know, we're we're kind of we're taking public comments without an attendance acknowledgement. We're doing um pre presentations without you know there there are four things
>> that happen before we even well we don't even >> I have a recommendation I guess I I agree with you but um I don't want to move it back either because this does >> make things way more efficient >> I don't want I just want to insert it >> insert roll call when we adopt the
agenda and then roll call is done before any other motions or just insert >> that's what I'm talking about >> okay so when we adopt the agenda. We'll do a roll call instead of adopt instead of a motion a second. We'll do a motion roll call. >> Uh motion to adopt the agenda call and then we don't need to do roll call
again. >> Then we would not do roll call for consent, right? >> No. >> So I don't know at what point the city of mound moved to doing roll call votes for the consent agenda, but I mean technically you could do it on any vote. Um or I think what would be the economy
would be >> mine's way louder. I think the uh I think what other cities or what you might normally see is that when the mayor calls to order, you may then just do a roll call or even
>> if somebody's absent, that's when you that's when you would note it. You know, all members are present or >> right >> board members are present. So I I it's really up to the council if you want to add that, but I would I would recommend doing it at the call to order. >> Um >> so call to order roll call.
>> Yeah. Something >> just to see who's here. >> We're all here. Great. Then we go to the next and then when we do consent later on, >> it's just going to be a motion second. >> Yeah. And the the only requirement on a consent agenda is that it has to be unanimous with no discussion. >> Oh, it does.
>> Yeah. That's why you pull that's why if you want that's why you pull items out. In fact, I wanted to talk about item 6D >> then. Okay. So, then basically we'll motion to approve all the consent agenda except for item 6D. >> Then you um
>> and then you would vote on it, >> right? >> And unanimous and without a discussion and then if you want to talk about it, then let's talk about 6D and then you have a separate motion on that. >> Yeah. >> Which we do. >> Yeah, we know that. But what about So you just said ask unanimous on a roll call. >> Oh, no.
on the consent agenda, >> right? >> So, so if one person votes against it, it kills and you had to redo each one. >> No, you have to do each one individually. >> I don't know. Maybe that's never happened once, but >> I not since I've been here, it hasn't happened. >> I didn't even know that that was a thing. >> That that but that's why you that's why you
want to talk about it, right? >> Right. Okay. >> Or I mean, usually it's you talk about it or if it's something that maybe they'd want to vote against it, they know that they're going to vote against that one, so they pull that one out. >> So, we should still do a roll call twice then. No, you don't need to do roll call. It just has to be unanimous.
>> So agreeing agreeing to the consent agenda. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Right. >> So we got to do motion second. It's got to be all unanimous. If it's not, then we got to vote on each one separately. >> Yeah. I would suggest that if you are going to vote against it, pull it, >> which we do. We do that anyways. >> We do it.
>> Nothing would change for the way that we approve. >> It's all the same ways. It's all the same. Just no roll call. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> I'm a little confused. Was roll So roll call had to do with the consent agenda? Yeah, >> we just got >> just that's the way we did it. >> You just you just got into the habit of doing it. There's no I don't believe there's a requirement for that.
>> No, I mean you could do a roll call vote on every motion if you wanted. >> Um >> so your recommendation is to do it after the call to order. >> Well, this is where I recall my my first meeting when got to the consent agenda and then everybody looked at me and I went whoops. What do I do here?
>> I didn't know. And so, um, if it if the purpose of it is really to, you know, make sure everybody's paying attention or that everybody's here, we just do it right off the rip and everything from there on out can be um motion second. >> Yeah. And >> that's and adopt the agenda is the first
motion. >> So, I make a motion that we uh in future agendas along with the call to order, we take the roll call. >> Okay. Got a motion? >> That's a motion. >> All right. Second.
>> Second. Any other discussion? >> All those in favor, please say I. >> I. >> I. >> I. >> Think we got them all. >> Uh, those opposed. All right. >> Well, yeah, see it passes. >> That passes. All right. >> Okay. So, I I just want to clarify. So,
are we saying that you're just going to do a I'm here in number one, or do you actually want to do the first motion, which is adopt the agenda, and do a roll call at that point? We're going to do roll call at the call to order. So, >> so I say >> that's what we just made a motion for
was to do the roll >> call city council and then I'll say roll call please. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> And then I do pledge of allegiance right away. >> So I would like to discuss moving this consent agenda up because if we have a controversial item here then all these people that are coming to this public comments becomes long and drawn out and
then we've got these presentation people sitting here waiting to your point. Um or maybe we move public comments down with the consent agenda. >> Public comments are only for items not on the agenda though, too. >> So, there's usually not more than a couple. >> Yeah. >> You know,
>> well, if there's a controversial >> and they should only be three minutes, >> if there's 100 people out here, it's still a long time. >> I I personally don't think changing it made any sense. It didn't speed anything up. You have more paperwork, but you
know, you get used to whatever's in front of you. So, we're used to it now. >> Well, do we want to move >> consent back up or not? >> I don't. >> No. >> Hearing two nos. >> I do. >> Two yeses. I guess it's >> a deciding vote.
>> I I I will say I've been doing this. This is my sixth year. >> You've done it both ways >> sitting here. And I will say it um again with her tonight. I felt bad and I have seen a lot of people when they do the roll call >> Mhm. >> or the consent and they came literally
>> confused >> and then they leave 15 minutes later and then they're gone and I'm like well you can stay and watch our fun show. >> But I would say I'd rather move back to >> I I die either way more efficient >> whatever. >> So you're saying flip six and five
>> move consent back >> back after public comments or I don't care before after. >> So flip five and six. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Whatever. >> Yeah, that's >> it's the way it used to be. >> Yeah. All right. We're good with that.
>> But I still want the consent agenda read. >> That's important. >> Yeah, we are doing that. Okay. So, make a motion to change this. >> Okay. I make a motion to move item six six. Let's just call it the consent agenda. >> Yeah. >> After public comments and the presentations below that.
>> Okay. Got a motion. very eloquently word and >> a second. >> All right, got a second. Any other discussion? >> All those in favor, please say I. >> I. >> Those opposed. >> All right. Did you guys both? >> I said I Okay. All right. All right. That that that's approved.
>> Okay. So, another question. >> Um >> Okay. I'm going to take care. >> What What is happening with um Festival of the Lakes? Is it going to happen? >> Spirit of legs. >> Spring. Yeah. >> Yep. >> It is. Yes. >> Okay. And they're going to use Surfside
or the new park. >> Surite. >> Okay. >> Um I don't think the new park's not quite ready cuz we got a lot of the construction and stuff. So maybe next year we'll work with the board and try to get that going. >> Okay. >> Um we did talk actually the three of us
talked about that the other day. >> Um and you work good with Jess. >> Okay. >> Yeah. And and I want to once again raise the fact that we have not had any sort of check-in with um the group that's
restoring the old city hall on Island Park in since since we gave them a 99 lease >> on the property. And I know they've done some improvements, but I do think that we should
um have them report to this council as to the progress they're making or if I suspect they're stuck on some fundraising. >> They've made a lot of improvements and I go with them a lot >> and you know, they'd probably love to come to council to get the word out that
they're still actively looking. you know, they have so many volunteers there that use their trade, you know, like electricians and new roofers. And so, they have made a lot of progress inside and out. >> And it would be great to have that finished. And they'd probably love to
>> be present. >> Yeah. Because one of the things I thought about is if they got that finished, we should lease it back for elections. >> Yeah. >> Because the island has such a large voting >> Yeah. >> group, you know. >> Okay. But
>> Jesse said he'll look into it and Okay. Try to get someone out here. >> So that's it for me. >> That's it. All right. >> That's enough. >> Uh planning commission from our joint meeting when we plan on what we're going
to fix throughout the year. Um we did we have done a lot of work with the uh changing the codes 129 zoning and the code updates for the corner lot requirements. the aa parking stall size requirements which they've discovered
ours aren't right. Um and then we are they everybody did agree with the language for the humane pet store regulations and I thought that was all going to be here tonight but I guess it'll be here at the next meeting >> next. >> And then we also discussed the outlets and the language.
We did approve of the language that was written and it came up because Rita and Sarah discovered um because of the new water plant >> um without regarding outlots
um this sorry it's regarding the outlot uh that we needed to pro propose um a change in language so people understood that we're only doing that with that outlot because it has to with the city
water uh filtration system. We generally don't rent out or give cups to outs. Am I making sense? >> If I may. So >> outlets >> out the change we need to make is to be
clear that an outlot is unbuildable. If you if you if you have a platted out lot >> and that's how you get one is from a plat. It would have to be replplatted as a buildable lot. like instead of outlot A, it would be lot one, block one, whatever the new addition is.
>> Um the the difference, but what we do allow is what we would allow is like water is considered to be an essential service. So governmental essential services or quasi governmental essential services are allowed to be in and out lot. That's if you want a structure um
like a like a residence or some commercial building would have to be platted. Well, and and you were probably part it sounds like you were part of this because when they were examining the cup agreement that they were having to do for the building, that's when they realized they needed to kind of modify
the language. Um, so people understand that out lots aren't buildable. It's just specifically for this. And again, I thought we'd see that tonight, but we'll probably see that next meeting, too, Jesse. >> Yeah, it had to be posted for 10 days public hearing. So, and I'm not saying
Sarah definitely wanted to be here for it, but she's out in the country now. So, she Right. >> We'll have it at the next meeting. >> Okay. And then, um, just to note that farmers market is opening next weekend for the season, >> Saturday, May 23rd. There's going to be
plenty of returning vendors along with several new vendors that lots of um, organic meat. And so, which is really exciting. And uh again, the farmers market is Saturdays May through October 8 a.m. to 12:30.
>> And that's it. >> All right. >> You got nothing. All right. >> Got nothing. >> Um our last This is the Super Bowl right now. The Super Bowl bonding bill. >> Yes.
>> This week. Next week. >> So you say it's going to really happen. Sunday is the deadline, right, for the >> You were right >> for the regular session. >> Uh I don't know what's going to happen, but I I can't force you guys to call these people, but please text, call,
email >> our two people, our senator and our rep. Uh tell them it's important. Um, yeah, >> I don't know if we're I don't know if we'll do another poster or not this week, but um I've been, you know, texting and I had a conversation with uh
um Andrew the other day and you know, he's getting a lot of pressure from a lot of cities. So, if we show up and say, "Hey, this is important for our city. >> This is this is it. I mean, this is the, you know, the next week or two here." It's it's, you know, go time. So, the
next time we probably talk, we we might know something. Mhm. >> Uh the next time we're sitting here. So if you can call, text, email >> a couple times this week, if you could just I was thinking, you know, I'm sleeping and waking up and I'm like, okay, what am I going to say? Hey, Mount
doesn't have clean, drinkable water. Please help us, >> you know, let's vote yes for us and worry about all the other cities later. We need water. >> Does Andrew have is he getting any kind of good feeling? I know he he's really fluctuated because I've run into him a
couple times, too, and he wasn't feeling great. But maybe now that we're in the end game, maybe he's got a different feeling. >> Yeah. I mean, you know, he's like, "Well, you remember I had to get you 10 million." >> Well, you know, that's an old >> We're very appreciative. >> I know. And I said, "Well, there's also
election this year." And I mean, >> yeah, >> just saying for both of you. >> In the year you got us 10 million, we passed up the other 10 out of the bounding bill. >> Well, I mean, I I'm very very appreciative of that. We did get the 10 100%. >> Yeah, >> that was a couple years ago. So, but again,
>> what did you do for me lately? You know, and I told him that he he he gets it. He knows he knows how it works. And there's 11 other cities that are going, you know, give me some, you know, and I'm making our case for our city because, >> right, >> sorry other cities if you're listening to this, but we need clean drinkable
water. >> The other cities have a ban. Can they drink their water? >> That's my point. So, >> yeah, they can drink their water. I'm like, if I'm I'm sorry, but if I'm one of them, I'm like, I'm not vote for any of this until I get some >> more funding for us because we we really need help. So, we'll see what happens.
Again, please call, email, tax, whatever we can do. If you're hearing this, uh please do that, too. Um beyond that, uh I think that's it. Our next meeting is uh Tuesday, May 26. And then are we we are doing the workshop at 5?
>> I I wrote down we'll post it and >> Okay. Send it up. And then you're you're gonna bring yourself, right? >> Yeah. I can And again, if you don't want a workshop, I'm happy to get up and just do a presentation. >> We can work. There's nothing scheduled. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Workshop. >> Perfect.
>> Workshop before next meeting. >> Huh? >> Workshop before next meeting. >> Before next meeting. Yep. Okay. >> All right. Uh, anything else from you guys? >> No. Okay. I' I'd like to say again though, thank you so much to Mayor and Jesse and I
know Sher you probably you too council member um for all the work you've done on the water with everybody because I know you guys have been really persistent and for all the people that complain I give so many kudos to the hard work you guys
have done and you've never stopped. So thank you for that and Ryan you're probably involved in it too. So, we have had so many people on our staff and on the council who work so hard >> to get this, you know, funding for us. So, thank you. >> Uh, last comment, both uh Brian from
Bolton, Inc., he he texted me the other day and he's like, "Hey, I just talked to our senator. She came to speak to our group and I advocated for my own." And >> so, I mean, we're we're trying, man. >> And so hard. >> Um, all right. Well, good. I'm going to take a motion to adjurnn. >> Motion to adjurnn.
>> All right. And can I get a second? All right. Any other discussion? >> All those in favor, please say I. >> I. Those opposed? All right. We're journ. Thanks.