evening everybody tonight is Thursday September 19th is 6:33 p.m. welcome to the September citywi Council and special education the calendar and business meetings first i' like to call it to
order and Rose can we please have roll call Dr s l Clanton Carn C I'm here here was that
Carolyn and yes Rose I'm here I got you rup Hernandez shaine Keenan Sam Reed Mo s rosarios Magie Sanchez is Esther on she's going to be
joining us virtually all right thank you everyone we do not have a thank you Rose so as Rose said we are not Forum that being said we will continue with our presentations and our public we need to go through our
interpretation Mark I'm sorry to interrupt you I'm sorry Mark Miss hsein can you please mute yourself sorry y thank you um interpreters Spanish interpreters could you please introduce yourself and let everyone know about your
services good evening this announcement will be in Spanish assign um announcement completed thank you Spanish um bangala could you please introduce yourself in your service sh 966
4114 no R ID number hash thank you Bengal and Mandarin could we please have you introduce yourself and your service please thank you thank you m thank you interpreters so at this point since we
are not at Quorum we will continue with the two presentations we have and then public comment we have multiple members who are stuck on subways right now as soon as they are able to get here then then we will be at Quorum and then be able to continue with other parts of the calendar and business meeting so for the
public and doe staff I apologize for for that but unfortunately it does happen in the city at times um so with that we'd like to welcome the Department of Education special education and dial office um we have a VIP cast online and definitely in person and like to thank
them and let them take over thank you so much Mark um hello everybody I am Johanna Rodriguez I'm the central parent advocate um at our uh in our special education office so happy first two three weeks of school um I
have the honor and the privilege to work alongside our interum chief Suzanne chanchez who will introduce the team thank you so much Johanna and thank you so much uh ccsse for having us here tonight we are really excited to be with you as we jump right into the new school
year uh really happy to say that uh I'm joined this evening by colleagues here in person um shie Gibson Johanna Rodriguez who just introduced herself Andy corso and joining us remotely on Zoom are Georgia Gian cor
brandise and sha Powell Scott so thank you so much for being with us tonight and uh we hope that the presentation is informative and uh helpful for everyone this evening so Georgia and sha take it away I just wanted to share first of all
hi it's such a pleasure always is um and I'm very excited to um just say that I know we introduced style at a prior meeting and I want to confirm that you know we've spent the last you know since that
last Georg you're on mute thank you I said many things it's I'm done I'm teasing um it's such a pleasure to be here thank you so much for having us um uh I would would like to share my screen
um if you could please uh share capabilities I see that that's happened okay just one moment okay can you all see my screen I'm having a hard time seeing any of you Georgie you're good we can see you okay fabulous okay um I know that we uh
joined at a PR previous meeting and shared a little bit about dial um and since then we've continued to be working really hard to sort of develop what ultimately dial is and to focus our priorities and the school year started
and we started with some wonderful um updates that I'd like to share with all of you um I'm going to start by saying that um the New York City Public Schools organizational chart was updated online and it does now reflect under Deputy Chancellor of inclusive and accessib
learning Christina fod the special education office the office of M dealing with Learners the Committees on special education and the Committees on prechool special education the last two that are led by um our senior D um senior director um Jessica
wallenstein senior executive director forgive me so you've seen this leadership slide most likely most of you have seen it um we have John Hammer's chief of dial and W Chancellor Christina f you'll see that we have intern acting chief of special education Suzanne Sanchez interim acting chief of
multilingual Learners Dr Brenda Garcia senior executive director of operations Maya McDavid uh you have me as your strategic adviser for special education for dial senior executive director for school support and leadership development Andy Corso senior executive director of the
csc's and cpsc's Jessica wallenstein and the Strategic adviser for multile Learners Anna pans who is also leading the work on the multilingual advisory Council um which you I you should all have either received an email um asked
asking if you wanted to apply for it if you have not please make sure to reach out and we will make sure you receive that so some celebrations there's been wonderful things this year to kick off the year so obviously the first thing was establishing this division that puts
the priorities of um our students at the Forefront of the minds of all of New York City Public Schools um this division is a work of Love by all who are in it and we are partnering with all other divisions to ensure that our priorities and organizational
systems reflect these priorities to multilingual Learners and students with disabilities we've shared in the past and I will just share again just so that everybody feels that these we recognize that these are two different offices um they do different work um but at the
most important piece is that our D our Deputy Chancellor is going to be the fist advocate for both groups of students and for all students who have been historically marginalized so uh we are at the table for all of the conversations having to do with all of
learning uh in New York City Public Schools um and really bringing again the needs of our students at the Forefront of everyone's mind you know that we expanded the specialized programs close to home in three districts um where we opened three Nest nine Horizon and 24 as
programs for all kindergarteners and districts 5 12 and 14 any child entering kindergarten with an Autism diagnosis um the option to attend either a Ness horizon or as programs was discussed at the IEP meetings um and our children
received seats in those programs access to District 75 we added 292 seats across 34 new kindergarten classes in District 75 um schools including opening a new building for 75 q023
um at q503 and actually I just want to correct this I realize there's a slight error on this slide and I will fix it um uh the number 292 is connected to preschool seats which is the next Point um and I'll correct that when I finish this presentation Early Childhood pract
Partnerships with the division of Early Childhood we open 292 preschool special education program seats across 34 sites with another set of sites and seats to open in the coming weeks so all students needing a preschool special education seat on the first day of school had one
we were very proud of that new bilingual special education programs we opened 35 new bilingual special education programs across 16 districts we are really pleased with the way that the school year started in those areas you have seen this slide most
likely which is the five key findings from our boldly reimagining special education advisory Council engagement um these were our five areas of recommendation from the council to be intend i al designed to be fully inclusive and interdependent to take
steps to reimagine general education to strengthen trusts between schools and families particularly around iaps and the IAP process to prioritize investments in programs that promote inclusion and result in strong student outcomes and to ultimately shift mindsets build an anti- aiz culture and
incorporate the perspectives of those with lived experience I'm re re-upping these to say that a lot of the work that we've been doing in recent months falls under these five areas and I'm going to show you in what ways that is um and I'm really excited just to say that some of
the things that I said even before this slide fit into this area and we're hoping that over time you will see you will continually see that we're prioritizing what came from the council's recommendations in terms of being intentionally designed to be fully
inclusive and interdependent some of the things that we thought about and and made changes to well one of them was um that we implemented a digital assessment library for schools called Dallas and this is for clinicians who are evaluating students they have access now
to a library of Assessments that are tailored to individual student needs they're more fair they're unbiased and they have more thorough and accurate informations on student needs the impact of this is that we are trying to obviously raise Equity of access to testing materials for all students
Citywide we want to reduce bias in our testing we want to allow for all students who struggle with reading to have an opportunity to be assessed for dyslexia in their community school and so that seamless classroom interventions and IP creation at the students Local Schools happen as a
result um these assessments are for clinicians only we changed the age of eligibility for students with IEPs so the students who have not yet achieved a New York state recognized diploma are Avail are eligible for fape through the end of the school year in which they
turn 22 um and or the end of the school year for student turning 22 in July and August um that was a a great win for us uh improved um sesy participation there
was a 94% increase over the last two years of students with IPS that participated in extended school year programs um in grades K through 12 across our sites um including related service um and summer makeup sites there was four I'm sorry there were seven seed
sites running and summer assist of technology training to families so we had a successful time there we recognized and we received information from all of you about ways to continue to strengthen going forward in terms of reimagining general education we were able to provide more
assistant technology devices and services support student learning needs than ever before um we you'll see our chief uh in a photograph with a student and with our very own uh Josh Stern um I
got to attend the full day at Expo of last year that is an annual event it was huge it was exceptional there was so much new technology that I got to try and look at and uh I felt very encouraged at the way that we can incorporate aive technology into all of
our classrooms um where they are needed for students um in a way that gives them much more access we approved upon in-house at consideration processes to allow School professionals to conduct at assessments when appropriate we offered robust professional learning to all
schools in the use of assistant technology and supported assistant this is separate of assistant technology but supported assistant an assistant principal cohort focus on special education leadership and reimagining general education strengthening trust between schools and families in the iip process
you've heard this iip parent members went up from 61 to 155 um continuing to strengthen training continuing to work with include n we offered over 15,000 participants professional development on partnering with parents in the special education
process this year we raised Beyond access series for family registration from 88,200 to 29,000 we began the work of the IP meeting toolkit which is still in the draft stages but we're building on a toolkit for schools so that they better
conduct IEP meetings developed a process for document sharing between nycps and institutions of higher educ ation to assist the eligibility process for accommodations in higher education so that when students are going to college and applying to college um we we created
a system where colleges can receive their information to give them accommodations in a more streamlined way and we strengthened the manifestation determination review MDR process uh an element of long-term suspensions for students with disabilities to make it more supportive and responsive for
families and students um by increasing access to information about advocacy and legal support for families providing training oversight and accountability for school teams in terms of prioritizing investments in public schools you know about the autism
program expansion pilot we talked extensively about that and we open 262 seats across 35 new kindergarten classes across District 75 schools including opening up a new building as I shared earlier that is the correct detail by the way and I will correct it on my
other slide and lastly and this is one we're deeply excited about um in terms of Shifting mindsets and also making sure that we're always including those of lived experiences and sharing perspectives so that all students um are on the same page not just students with disabilities but all students understand um
disability and inclusive environments um we establish a disability Affinity pride and inclusion Club um initiative Citywide this has been the work of Victor Edward Wards who has shared widely about his own experiences it
aligns with Chancellor pillar one reimagine the student experience and our takeaway five to create an Institutional anti- aist culture in a partnership with um the chancellor student advisory Council what the task at hand was to
sort of initiate a city-wide plan ens short schools have these clubs where they're educating all students on disability of Pride and and how to make sure that their school environments are inclusive how to advocate for other
students and themselves um and how to shift policies in their school so again they're anti-a blist um it builds off of our existing existing initiatives you know about the disability Pride Arts contest which we have and the inclusion Summit and what
we're saying is we want to create an ecosystem that wraps holistically around the needs of all our students both those with and without disabilities we know that when they're together that they learn from each other um and we got city-wide attention for this type of work um Carson chodos one of our uh
members of our team has done remarkable work around this and as a result the MTA displayed the art from the disability Arts contest in stations across the city this year I'm not sure how many of you saw it the the um title was nothing about us without us and the art winners
as you see in that beautiful picture um were posted all throughout City train stations it was really wonderful to see we're very proud of that um I'm going to just briefly share because the expansion was such a big Initiative for the autism programs what's coming next what's coming next is
that we're giving ongoing support and training for our pilot districts where we are absolutely monitoring how it's going and supporting wherever we can we're incorporating feedback and all the lessons learned we've have focus groups um we we have been speaking with all of the people involved in the process to
see where we can do better um we're strengthening training for psychologists and the iip teams um we're ensuring School familiarity and information and information sharing for district and school-based parent and family coordinators because they are at the front lines um and they need to understand and know what these programs
are about um we're in a process of identifying preparing new districts for expansion um and uh we're in the evaluation and continuous Improvement stages of this work um as you know this this is a long-term expansion plan and
uh whatever we've learned from this year we're going to carry forward uh and continue to try to do better and uh that's where um my presentation ends and I'm going to pass it on to the wonderful shop pal Scott to share with us a little bit more about
family support whoops thank you so much Georgia um I will go ahead and I will start sharing my screen um and I will just go ahead and do a brief okay we are good to go so good evening
everyone I'm so happy to be in community with you all tonight um and I'm really excited to talk about one of my favorite things our special education Family Support inbox um and for those of you who don't know me my name is sh how Scott I'm our senior director of family
support here within our special education office um and we're going to talk about the Family Support inbox um and some of the work that happens there so our special education inbox is a Citywide inbox that's our Citywide special education Family Support inbox
so when family special education concerns have been unable to be resolved at the school or District level level they're able to share an email to our inbox which is special education at schools.nyc.gov um at any time and they're able to be
directly connected with a school district CSC or cpsc team can you all hear me I got a flag I was a little bit low we can hear you okay awesome thanks um they can receive appropriate resources and guidance that answers
their specific inquiry and they can also have their concern escalated to an appropriate central office District CSC or cpsc leadership team so let's talk a little bit about our numbers so uh for the 2324 school
year the inbox received a total of 2,074 emails out of that those 21,000 emails 8,352 required the next steps of our special education family support team I
aggregated that data so that you could get just a glance at some of the concerns that come in from our Advocates our families our elected um and as you can see some of those numbers are uh
thing so you'll have an idea of uh what what was pretty hot and heavy last year um and I'd like to really share with you what do we mean by escalation what exactly does that mean we we've used that word for several years and I want to talk a little a
little bit about what that actually means and some of the steps that are involved in what we call an escalation so an escalation pretty much means that these are concerns that are escalated that would typically have one or more of the following elements it requires the action steps to
be completed by an additional team it means that we've reviewed that email and there is an action step that needs to be required by someone that is not on our team we require that team member to complete that action St to resolve that
concern they may be of an urgent nature They may involve safety and or health concerns or they may involve atypical delays such as in the IEP replacement process or response from a school or District out of those
8,352 emails 98 of those emails to the inbox during the 2324 school year resulted in an escalation that was shared with the team to support resolution so you may be wondering what happens to all those other thousands of
emails that didn't result in an escalation we'll talk a little bit about that what what happens in those steps it means that we actually responded to resolve that concern in some way but let's talk a little bit about what that looks like here are some of the steps that are
completed once an email is received and are escalated the very first thing is a very close review of that email what does that look like so that may entail reviewing a single email maybe a single sentence in an email making a request or sharing a concern it could be a very
comprehensive email thread involving multiple people multiple emails multiple email threads and also the close review of any attachments or images shared it requires investigation what does an escalation investigation entail
this is the review of student information across multiple New York City public school systems typically we start in CIS or student profile that's where we have an opportunity to look at a student special education history and student profile where we can get
information such as grades attendance Transportation depending on the needs of that escalation so we don't just arbitrarily look at all of these things if they are not relevant so um these are individualized and customized investig steps that we take depending on what we
need and what we need to review to to determine next steps this can be suspension history impartial um any anecdotal information we may have to pull things out of ATS reading notes and then also and then we're kind of cross referencing that with the email that
we've received then we are determining next steps what does that look like identifying and connecting a family directly with a team maybe a team's had difficulty connecting with their school or their District team you're looking for a specific team member maybe
resolving that question or concern involves connecting them directly with the team who can immediately support them preparing a response that appropriately answers the question or resolves the concern that may mean providing a family with next steps to request an evaluation
providing guidance about things such as parent members or learning more about Services sharing a family guide sharing a requested do document with appropriate permission sometimes a family is looking for information that we may be able to
provide if we have appropriate uh permission and consent or it may require us to escalate again to an appropriate leadership team that can support the action steps required to resolve and of note prior to any communication with any
sender we make a determination kind of do an assessment of the sender's right to actually receive information from New York City Public Schools so that may be cross referencing the information from that sender their email address going in and checking who is the guardian making sure that there's a consent on file if
it's from an advocate is this an advocate we have a partnership with are these Advocates who shared a consent with us and making a determination what is the information it can actually be shared with this sender oh and excuse me and also searching for any system flags that bars
that particular sender from receiving information so who are the teams involved so every single New York City public school office is a potential internal stakeholder who may be able to assist in the resolution of a special education concern so here are some of the teams
that we work really closely with to support escalations and this is by no means covering every single team but here are some of the teams and that may be our directors and administrators of special education who work in our district offices our csc's our CP psc's
um our Comm committees on special education committees on preschool special education our cbsts facilities and operations teams our supervisors of school psychologists excuse me our office of related services our own Central special
education office so identifying one of our many experts around the office who may be able to support the office of school health the Office of Pupil Transportation our office of safety and Youth Development the enrollment team the center for assisted technology The
Early Childhood team sorry duplicated on the bottom our committee on special education and I am going to uh end our discussion about escalations talking a little bit who actually sends escalations to the inbox so as you can see
2,668 families utilized our inbox elected official teams Advocates New York City public school teams and when we when I'm talking about New York City public school teams team members reach out so they can receive supports as well they're looking for policy guidance next
steps to support escalations that may be happening at their school providers we receive escalations from the New York State Department of escalations of Education excuse me our external school districts and we receive emails from
students as well current and former and thank you so much for your time I've ended my share I appreciate your time and learning more about our special education Family Support inbox and our escalation
process uh Georgia thank you Sean it's your last Mee with us like to thank you for all of your uh teamwork partnership and suppor of students and families in the doe and we're going to miss you but we know you're close by so thank you sha
thank you so much that is so very much appreciated and it has been my absolute pleasure um to be a part of this entire experience thank you for having me at these meetings thank you so much for advocating for your strong support of families I appreciate it and your
partnership has been very very well valued um and I I've been saying this to everyone it's not goodbye it's just see me later you will you will see me around these education parts so thank you so much your your community is very much valued thank you for that
thank you for that Mark and uh sha and everybody else I'm opening the mic here and tweet so that uh sha hoping you could hear the Applause that uh you've garnered there and uh you what you did not hear is the collective sigh in the room uh as Mark mentioned that this is
your me last meeting with the group so uh we all deeply thank you sha for everything you have brought to this work uh and how much we have all learned from you uh and the way that you engage support and advocate for famili so we'll give you
one more one more Applause here that hopefully you can hear don't make me cry guys I gotta say these tears for for for those who are not aware sha pal Scott who leads our really Dynamic family engagement team is
transitioning to another city agency so uh while we are sad for sure uh that that that we're losing Shaw's expertise we are thrilled that other children and families in New York City will continue to be supported by you shael Scott so
that's the good news here um I I do want to take uh a moment also to acknowledge the comments questions points feelings frustration that uh folks are expressing in the chat around uh students who are
not receiving or waiting for services who have an iesp for students not attending uh our public schools and who are waiting there um and I want to say that in in in the division of uh inclusive and accessible learning and
the special education office we very much feel this frustration uh and and understand that this is a complex and challenging time for families of IES students please know that this was a legal
decision put forth put down from our legal department uh for which we are obligated and required to follow and adhere to that being said we are dedicated to engaging families we are
doing our absolute best to provide supports that are needed we are deeply committed to providing supports that children with disabilities need nobody wants to see Services arranged more than children's families and the
staff and team from dial and the special education office we are doing everything we can to move through this process as quickly as humanly possible to provide services in the way that we are been directed to by our Legal Office I know
that that is what we uh cold comfort for many families who are waiting for these services please please know you are incredibly on our radar this is something the Special Education team Deputy Chancellor fod Chief John Hammer are working through on a daily basis in
partnership with our legal department for families who have a question about a specific child or a specific iesp situation we are going to drop an email box in the chat here that is managed and responded to
daily on a larger note I want to assure everybody more broadly Beyond IPS that with sha Powell Scott's departure the advocacy and their family engagement work will not decrease will
not lose its priority in any way we want and encourage families to continue to utilize and reach out to the special education inbox and we will put that inbox address in the chat again as Sho El ly messaged and shared that inbox is
a priority for the special education office it is manned by uh trained people and staff Johanna Rodriguez being uh uh someone who is uh has a hand in that work but we have trained staff who
manage the inbox daily uh those responses are sent out shared with family schools principes A's superintendents whomever is needed to resolve issues so while sha who has created just a wonderful culture of
parent engagement and responsiveness here is leaving our work in this topic will not suffer will not decrease and will continue to be prioritized and please use the special education inbox as has always been the process in the protocol and that should remain thank
you Mark thank you Suzanne so for the public we will have public comment um there is a link that Heather has dropped a couple of times with a Google form to if you'd like to um speak during public comment
we will have extended time for that obviously um because we understand there's a lot of issues going in Play We want to hear from each and every one of you tonight um we do have a presentation from our CCSC team regarding the IPS after that we will open it up for
comments um and questions so can I add something Mark excuse me I was wondering if we could yield some time in the calendar to make adjustments from our public comment so I would like to yield my member report to add for public comment section is that something that
we're able to do what's the motion you want to add time I cannot place a motion but if a council member could place a motion to adjust the agenda minutes to allow for more public commentary okay there's a motion to add public comment time what are we adding in a
half an hour what's the motion add I'm going to yield I'm yielding my time and Sha's presentation ended earlier so that added nine minutes so that takes it to 25 minutes all right so Maggie is your
motion to add 25 minutes to public comment oh yes that I I motion to um add uh for the for the public comment hi second hi yes
whoever you want to start I can do it it's fine well I'm GNA be very quick okay can everyone hear me can you all hear me okay good evening everybody uh I'm Caroline Castro I am
the co-president of the Citywide sorry hello so you don't have to hold the button good evening everybody I'm Carolyn caser I'm the co-president of the I got can you hear me now okay good
thank you okay third times a charm okay everybody so really quickly I don't want to take away from parent questions we ran an iesp family survey based on the amount of inquiry we started receiving about a week before
school started for the Academic Year 20242 and immediately sent Communications to dial Office they are obviously aware of acted and working towards solutions for that uh but we sent a General survey out
to understand how many families have been affected by this and how far this is reaching next slide Heather did you open it in Google you should be able to go to the next slide
okay that's fine okay on the IP family survey we sent it out probably a few days after we heard about it I don't have the date in front of me we it ran for 20 days but realistically within the first week
first nine days is when family sent out we received 91 responses and families who have been affected by having isps denied represent 87% of the survey the survey was very quick and easy it was about four minutes
on average and the goal as I said before was to assess how far and why families have been affected next slide please the first question asked does your child have an IP as part of their IP
79% representing 87% said yes next Slide the average number a student had in IP before being declined was 4.9 years so the Gambit ran anywhere from parents who had just received IP
services and were denied to over 10 years next Slide the next question asked did the Department of Education conduct an annual I ISP meeting in the last 12 months
80% of that responded Yes next slide go ahead their IEP is out of date did you I hope everybody heard her that means that almost 20% of
respondents um IEPs are out of date and out of compliance the next question which we didn't put a response to because a lot of families obviously couldn't remember the exact month but it said to the best of you can recall when
was your child's last IEP ISP meeting and I attributed the lack of responses to this is that families are so inundated with things going on that they just simply couldn't remember next slide did you provide the doe a letter
of intent in writing by June 1st 2024 deadline as per the state law 177% said yes 62% said no I'm s sorry I'm sorry I read that
wrong 22% said yes 78% said no next slide please the next question was did you receive Communications from the doe or committee on special education that your child is being denied services for the school year 2024 due to not complying
with the June 1st 2024 de deadline and 54% said yes and 46% said no can I make a comment about that 46% so we also heard um anecdotally from
quite a few parents that they found out that they were being denied Services when they contacted their csse to find out why their um related service um had not been arranged yet so they didn't receive any word nothing they're like
usually I have my child's providers in place by now what's going on contacted the csse and were told well you didn't send in the form so we're not going to give you your services and that's how they found out yeah I didn't highlight that because I thought we were leading
to that um but from what I remember hearing parents didn't receive Communications and were denied and then there were other sets of families who submitted before the July the June 1st
deadline and were still denied but there was a huge amount of families who were never aware of a June 1st deadline making it seem as if this June 1st deadline was written in the regulation but dormant up until this
year next slide oh here it is have you ever in previous years provided a letter of intent to the Doe by the June 1st deadline 34% said yes 66% said no so they have
never 66% of this sample size have never provided a letter of intent to the Department of Education for related services for ISP which represents children in private school and homeschool so is this a yearly
practice where you denied services for any other school year prior to the 2024 2025 school year after failing to submit a letter of intent by the June 1st deadline sorry can
I keeping Spanish interpreter that put in the chat um asking folks in the Spanish line to please silence your um your phones on the line because if not they can hear the sound in the
background so I don't know thank you okay so returning to this the data is showing a correlation that families never submitted letters of intent in years past many of them were acknowledgeable
that they had to submit a letter of intent and this in fact is the first year that they are receiving letters of decline for failure to submit a letter of intent next slide I also want to note that um
this this policy got handed down from I guess the legal folks but parents weren't ever informed that they were actually going to be held to this deadline this year they had never been held to it before there was no reason to believe they would be held to it this
year and and now they're all be and this is not just a service for it's like for the entire school year so I just want to put that out there for folks who don't know as much about what's happening we have two minutes Heather okay
okay if the doe upholds their denial of services what are you planning to do to support your child with disabilities this school year there is no there is no response to this slide because we received so many
varied responses we could not fit them all on the slide but it has run the Gambit where families have mentioned that this is a human rights civil rights violation that they are looking to attain legal attorneys that they will be
coming out of pocket to support their child that they will do what what is needed to do to provide their children the services that they need it is amazing to see all of the responses and where families are willing to go to
ensure that their children receive what they need and I I'm going to end this now because I would like to open this to the families who are on the calls and who are here to ask questions but there was one question that I think when we were looking at we were baffled by and
that is okay so the regulation is being enacted this year when it never has been before but I didn't see anywhere in the regulation that said you had to wait an entire Academic Year in order to receive services so but that is what some families have been told so I'm just
curious if maybe you can speak to your legal team and see what can be done within the year because an entire year without service can be catastrophic to certain students thank you everybody all right so we'll open it up
to public comment at this point public comment can be on any topic obviously we we've seen a lot in the chat box we have a Google form that was in process I will ask though anyone in the audience if there's anyone who would like to have
public comment ma'am if you can please come up hi good evening can you hear me uh my name is gusi celesten um I'm here with my husband Jeffrey Lumis we both are homeschooling parents we are in
um the CSC District 4 in Queens um we've been homeschooling our now 14-year-old since he was about 8 years old um and he had been receiving Services
otpt speech sets for all of those years that's what seven years in the seven years that um we've been homeschooling him um we have never been informed of having to uh send in a PPL by a by a
specific date we've always had um an IEP meeting with his IEP team and it's never been something that's discussed it's never been part of our routine and we have been in communication regularly with his I team
um with the school psychologists in the district as well as his service providers so um I did get an email from an outgoing IP member she's now in a uh
she's now placed in a different uh uh I guess section right now with csse so she's no longer part of my son's IEP team but um she did send an email in May sometime which was rather cryptic it was basically a link that said thr this out
and CC me by June 1 said okay I clicked on the link and all it took me to was a general page of the doe um which had information that I already knew about the special education process
so um I reached out to her by mail uh no actually I called her and I said um I'm not seeing what it is that I need to fill out I don't see where this St is she replied Again by sending me the same link it's not much information it was
just very cryptic so all of this just to say it took time to for me and my husband to navigate on that web page to see what there was where this PPL letter of intent was and June 1st came and went
when I looked again um I realized that there is a box on that web page that has different languages on there and there's nothing that clearly says that if you click on these different languages that's going to open up a PDF for you to fill out your letter of intent to send
very very cryptic not clear at all no instruction um yet underneath that box there's one Link in uh in yish very clear that says letter of intent in this language if you want to click this is
what that is so I just don't understand why there's there was a discrepancy between how to implement this for parents one why is it that all of the other languages in English Bengali Spanish all clumped up in one box and you just have to Noodle around to find
it like that's not clear instruction especially for something that is new we we haven't had this habit of having to do this before and yet for one other language somehow it's very clear I don't understand the discrepancy between that
and I don't also understand why legal would if they're enforcing something that was a always in law why would they not in in communicating this with parents say these are the ramifications if you do not fill this out like my
email that I got from the CSC team M didn't say fill this out but first because if you don't fill this out this these are the things that will happen it's like a regular warning label that you would get right when you when you're taking medication there's warning there's something that lets you know how
important it is so even though I I did get this email in May and I did try to find it on the website I also was not made aware of what the ramifications were that this would mean that my son would have his Services stripped for a
full year which is deeply impact for him he is now entering high school he's 14 years old um and he needs his special services he he needs his his related services to be able to navigate the
rigor of what high school what ninth grade is like for him with his particular needs um and my husband and I I are now struggling trying to figure out how how to move forward um I don't think that do the DOE
um acted in good faith in this or I think this was underhanded in terms of the lack of clear communication from the way the email was sent also not understanding what the impact was to the way this was laid out on the Doe's
website for parents to be able to to comply um that's all I'll say for now because it's very emotional for me thank you for your time Heather who is on the who's on the list who had
registered can I ask a question for clarification there are individuals in the chat who are asking to uh ask questions do they have to fill out this Google form we're trying to do it in order and so if you could please fill out the Google form will make it easier for just
to track Marie Dustin you are up next please hi um I'm Marie Dustin I am a firsttime IP parent my daughter had um an IEP and back in April I requested to
transition it to an IP during that time um I was told that she needed to get updated evaluations which were scheduled for June 8th I asked if there were any documents that were needed to file for the process and at no point the they actually given guidance they just said
that I had to do the evaluation I was given a consent form for an evaluation eventually um I tried contacting csse all throughout the summer um and I was being told hey you don't have a parental intent form that was submitted by June
1st which I wouldn't have been able to give anyways because the evaluations happened on June 8th the um iesp was finalized and signed off on on June 27 and eventually school started I went
to csse to speak to someone and I gave them the documents I showed them that I had by the time I was notified of submitting the IES the parental intent form which was um in J July it was submitted multiple times um and they did
not have the documents in my child's file eventually I was given a p um a P4 form for sets and then yesterday I got a call and an email stating that they gave that to me aonly because again I did not
submit the form by the June 1st deadline so it's hard for me to understand how I can actually submit a form for services that one I was not notified about and second I wouldn't have been able to know
if I needed to submit that form until they were able to confirm canun ity of services and this is the issue that I'm having right now I've been emailing calling and they the only response I'm getting is that there's a June 1st
deadline which for me it doesn't sound fair especially since I've been in contact with them since April of 2023 and that's all I have to say thank you one housekeeping um item that we want to bring up is that we want to let
folks know per person we're going to have to limit the comments two minutes so everybody gets a chance to go uh Vanessa um adgar Jones is next hi everyone I'm Vanessa AAR Jones
thank you very much for being here this evening I also particularly want to thank the other parents who are here sharing their stories um has been really incredible for me to listen to what you have to say um I'd like to believe that this is about incompetence rather than deception I would like to believe that
um as the first Speaker said I would like to believe that this was about a Communications error rather than the DOA doe not acting in good faith um but I really wonder why this June 1st deadline was not communicated with families before said deadline rather than after I
too am fairly new to the iesp process my child's first IP went into effect in August 2023 we had our second IES meeting our annual review on June 18th at no time in the process like the previous speaker was I told that I was
not in compliance with a letter of intent for our June 18th meeting though the entire month beforehand I was sending documents into cse1 which is our csse um in preparation for said meeting
um the thank you very much for trying to offer us email address addes ccsse at schools IP inquiry at schools special education at schools has been receiving emails from me for over two weeks now daily and I have received no response save for canned responses automatic
responses from these email addresses we really need a different kind of communication strategy for students who are not in the public schools yet are part of the taxpaying tax base um upon which our Public Schools rely um those
of us who had annual reviews were not a priz that we would not be receiving Services if we had reviews over the summer um if we did not have a letter of intent um in effect I am just devastated by the lack of communication and the lack of coordinated response from the
city from the doe um and I'm glad to be here in the company of all these other parents but I'd really love for us to figure out some sort of way forward um that does not rely on legals invocation of a rule that was not communicated to the people upon on whom that rule would
be applied thanks thank you very much Heather who is next on the list aelia yeah hi folks it's iselia vulpi um
I'm gonna make this pretty quick actually but let me explain this to everyone as everyone knows I was part of this Citywide Council for special education for two years and someone said they would like to believe that this was done um without intent or purpose but I
disagree with that it's very plain and simple that New York City's in current violation of Gregory I'm sorry my bad I apologize Goldberg V Kelly which specifically says that if there's going to be a discontinuance of any kind a
notice of intent must be sent a notice of intent was not sent furthermore the New York City Department of Education is also in violation of New York State education department rules and
regulations there is no mistake here in my personal opinion this was done with Malin this was done to stop parents parently place their children where we want to oversee our
children's education and the reason I say that and then I will let it go but the reason I say that is because of this very important thing that I that I see here and it says I got this in an email if you would like New York's it's
specifically says New York City Public Schools will not provide Equitable special education services to your child during the 2024 2025 school year that was sent to me by Heather Geisler
interim acting chairperson committee on special education District 31 I want to read it one more time New York City public school will not provide Equitable special education services to your child
during the 2024 2025 school year that was done purposefully I was not informed of this I've had a 100 pages of exhibits 100 pages of
exhibits I've had numerous phone calls numerous emails I had an email on I had a phone conversation on June 3 with Heather Geisler and guess what she did not
inform me of the June 1st deadline my daughter has had three IEP meetings since January not once was I told about this at the end I'm just going to say this one more time so that way everyone
understands the complexity that we are facing as parents New York City public school will not provide Equitable special education services to your child during the 2024 2025 school
year so then where is my child's $39,000 going New York City Department of Education spends $39 billion on our children so I'm asking you where is my child's
$39,000 because it's not here thank you aelia thank you heather who is next on the list please Janet Marte hi good evening hi good evening can you
hear me yes we can Janet thank you hi um so I'm just gonna say that I am here in support of all the parents here tonight I'm not directly impacted by this I just want to say that instead of many of us uh reading to our children tonight and
putting them to bed we're sitting here and we're fighting for Education equity and at some point this needs to stop we're constantly fighting we're constantly demanding and asking and these are not for things that we are not
rightfully entitled to that our children are not rightfully entitled to and at some point it needs to stop we can't continue to live like this we have to have you know healthier approaches we need to live healthier lives and we
cannot if we're constantly having to fight a battle against New York City Public Schools I'm here tonight more so because of the inequities around the Omni Metro cards and I think I will step away and
wait for that presentation so we can discuss that even further it's just a shame what's going on with New York City public schools and these parents should not be going through this and you know these are parents that can advocate for their children what happens to lowincome
non-english speak families that are being pinned up against the wall and don't know their rights and don't know how to advocate for their students I think something needs to be done and needs to be done ASAP thank you Janet Heather who is next Nicole
deazi Nicole hi so um my story is basically the same as everybody else's so I'm not going to go on about the whole thing about how they're kids are taking away the services but similar to what aelia said like I received that same exact email that said that's it my kid is without services and then to sign
him up for a public school education instead so you guys want us to trust me to send my kid to public school when the public school system is now telling him he can have something that you guys have never ever told us about never been on a
meeting never told during any of my IES pings never a document was sent to me about it not included on my prior written notices for my IPS not included in the procedural safeguards that are sent to us which I don't even get during every meeting which is also a violation
so the doe violates my son's rights year after year but this one time you guys decide to follow a law it only affects us but when you guys do it it's not a big deal that's allowed to the law doesn't exist then but if we don't send
a letter then the law exist which really isn't fair um but many parents record these meetings so you guys are going to claim on press conferences that you adverti this letter that we all knew
about it but we've recorded meetings that show we were never told about it at all um and then you guys just keep sending us emails saying that we're waiting for guidelines to give back Services we need to wait to do it and that's it a candid response but you guys
took away all of our services in less than a week because they were still holding conversion meetings for I from IEPs to IPS in mid August and then all of a sudden people who had meetings scheduled were told oh wait we can't do it anymore because now it's no longer
allowed but you guys didn't pick up on that before June 1st or after June 1st or in June or in July it was until August that they picked up on it you also returned services to kids in kindgarten without a letter the law says what you give to one you need to give to
all so why do kindergarten students not need the letter but the rest of us do those are my real questions thank you Nicole hea who's next please I'm gonna butcher this name but
um Frank rap ruolo from council member Boreal barelli's office not too bad thank you very much my name is Frank rapo I'm Chief of Staff to councilman Joe here in Staten Island uh I want to just advocate here for all the parents I also want to just first apologize if my
computer cuts out my laptop charger isn't working and I'm been in the red for about 15 minutes now so if I die I apologize uh if you look in the comment section I just shared a flyer for a rally that we'll be having tomorrow uh for IES Equity here in Staten Island I I
invite all parents to come and join us uh if you live outside of stat Island I would encourage you to contact your rep local representative and ask them to hold a rally as well uh it seems the biggest question here is what triggered this decision this year uh for 20 plus years this rule has been in existence
and never been um held to its current standard all of a sudden now this is what's occurring and all these families have been knocked out of the box these families have it very hard day in day out and and they're happy to do it because it's their children and they love them they need these services to
help their children move ahead uh you know when when you deal with special needs students it's a totally different game as we all know one day for one student is is like a week for another now we're on week two we're going to be on week three very shortly I didn't anticipate that this would be a quick
fix but we hope that it will be quick uh coming forward now and we also again we ask why this was came to light this so thank you for your time I appreciate it thank you Amanda
pittz Amanda um so my question is about meeting times and meeting days I can definitely go at the end um I don't want I want to make sure parents with issues about this uh can talk I'm going to put a note in my
signin sheet that you can wait till the end thanks Heather who's next Claudine um serus St Victor good evening everyone um I have a son who has a IEP in public school and CS
E3 and I have a daughter who's in a parental Place independent school that falls under C se9 and when you're so deep into managing everything in relation to your
child's education when they need additional supports and accommod is kind of difficult to see the forest for the trees in the sense that the larger issue really Falls in how csse
manage their relationships with parents how they engage with parents how they communicate with parents the timeline they communicate from csse 3 to cc9 I feel like I'm in a different state cc9 feels like I'm in Mississippi and
csc3 is exceptional in terms of their attention to parental concerns and their attempts to resolve issues um there's not going to be any big changes
that occur with the doe quickly but for everyone that's on the front line interacting with parents onboarding students into the system my daughter is a first grader now she received no speech services last year even though so
um my name may sound familiar to some I am involved I'm connected I'm aware I know who to speak to and I failed to get her her services for an entire year
and and that is not a testimony to me or my family it's a testimony to how broken the system is and how overworked and overwhelmed the front line CSC members
are so systemically in terms of how parental engagement and approach and management of ips or IEPs in general um that is one of the first and major considerations that have to take
place thank you Claudine um we next we have um Patricia Pedra hi thank you so I have the same situation I've been homeschooling since kindergarten for the past six years no um documentation of this notice has ever
been asked of me until last year last year before April 1 I got the document of the intent and I actually emailed back because it had an email and I emailed back I don't understand this document what is this about I was very confused do you know that they they got
my email but they never called called me they never explained it to me so how was I supposed to know for the following year about this email so I have a documented email that no one replied back to my email or my inquiry to understand this how can that happen
something is planned I don't know what to do now so then there's a document of the doe handbook that was on every year before June 1st um in April the doe was supposed to give us a letter of intent so this is what I dug up to try to
figure out what is going on so this the doe failed to send it to me the following before June 1st so you're supposed to send me this letter intent I'm supposed to rep uh reply back by June 1st you're supposed to send to me by April they failed to do it this year
but they did it the following year for the first time in six years that I've been homeschooling so how is this possible then the second thing is my son's iesp annual meeting was done on June 25th his um I emailed for my annual
meeting to be on uh I sent an email on June 5th to tell to let them know I needed an annual meeting um and our review was not was not supposed to be till July but they got back to me they're like let's put you in for your review we did his review June uh June
25th and no one told me about this letter intent do you know when I found out about this letter ATT tent on August 30th when I kept calling and calling like where's my rsas where's my P4 where's my my stuff I need to transmit because every year this happens every
year you know like we are always we go for months and months without special education services and it's it's like I can't take this anymore but this year you guys have gone too far and taken everything away from him how how do you guys help us this is like horrible so
then on on August 30th they sent me a a parental intent for 2025 I don't understand like what what is going on so now I have one for 2025 but I didn't have one for this following year um and then on top of that there is
there was an impartial hearing from the IHM on 2000 September 20th 2017 that I put in the chat that if your I yes that your I meeting was done after
June 1st that the the um it's W your June 1st date is waved so there was a meeting and a partial hearing um held for that if you look at those records and you know go into that and let us know what what's going to be done for the people who did
it after June 1st their I thank you okay next we have Tracy Anon I apologize if I'm not pronouncing names right I'm doing my best can I just do a quick reminder that we
have a lot of families who want to talk and it can be time frame so that I'm sorry can can families stay within the TW minute time frame to allow as many families to speak as possible thank
you uh yes um I have the same exact um thank you all the other parents for speaking for for the speeches before me um pretty much the same um experience I've uh my son is homeschooled um he's
been homeschooled since uh kindergarten uh had an uh ISB since kindergarten and um it's only last year I apparently sent in a letter of intent uh because I think they sent me
something in the mail last year and I responded to it it didn't say it was an annual requirement it didn't say anything I just think I responded to to it and um yeah the same exact thing as everyone's been experiencing I've had an I've had an ISB I had four ISB meetings
over the summer for my son he didn't have his annual meeting until July 26th and then I had a mediation meeting um a resolution meeting and a reconvene meeting so I had four meetings between the end of July and August and then
never once did they tell me that what we were discussing was not going to be implemented um in and then a week later when I asked for my rsas and my paperwork they said no it's incredible because I had four
meetings and never once did anyone tell me that what I was talking about was not going to be implemented because they didn't send a letter by June 1st um so it's insane and um that yeah doesn't make any sense and
never once in seven years has anyone ever asked me about that um so same thing as everyone here has been dealing with so um I appreci I appreciate all of you um I feel for all of you and um
we're just trying to do the best for our K that's up thank you Tracy um next up is Kim calvo hi everybody I'm Tim calvo um I just wanted to say that um as everyone else that is um in the
situation um my daughter is um 15 years old so I have been in this system a very long time and at no point um from the very beginning of time
did anyone mentioned this letter of intent um letter of intent should have been something that um when you first go into the process of joining the IES world that should have
been a document that somebody said Hey listen this document is going to be something that you are going to receive at XYZ time and you need to make sure that you fill it out because this is what is going to happen if you do not
that convers ation never happened um so for them to now decide that they woke up in the morning and that today they were going to implement it um as somebody had said previously you can't
just decide that you you can't just decide that this is the day I work in a field where guidelines need to be followed and time structures need to be done and you I can't just say oh today that person gets a pass and tomorrow
maybe I'll make them do it and that's the same thing with this you cannot do that my daughter is visually impaired she uses Braille she needs her Braille to be transcribed so that she can do her
work so that she can take her tests so that she can function basically what has happened is that you have sent her to school with no book this is an extremely big thing that has happened
for her life and she is and she is a sophomore in high school so you have denied her access to what is something that is a federal right for her to have thank you
Kim so we have there's four more speakers signed up um um and we want to make sure we everybody gets a chance to speak so just just be mindful of the time um but I we do recognize that for parents who haven't felt listened to through all of this that this time is
really important um so we want to make as much time for you all to speak as possible um so I'm going to move on to the next person and that's um um I think it's Jeanie or Gian hilderbrand hi yes can you hear me it's
Jeanie hilderbrand hi we can hear you Janine okay great so yeah same thing I have a son who's almost 11 years old in 2021 in the fall off he was granted services and he got an ISP and I was told I needed to find a set provider I
looked for two years I couldn't find a set provider that was going to do it not on Zoom at that young age I felt like that was really important and that was my right as a parent um I finally found a set provider in February of this year in that entire time the two years that
he did not receive Services um no one contact I never had an annual meeting I had nothing I didn't understand and now I understand that that was a right of mine I didn't know so the due was not in compliance with that in March 27th I had a meeting they were wonderful they came on they said yes we're going to get you
Services you've now finded a provider yay things are moving forward and he started catching up and then I started getting an email on March on May 20th about a doc you serve like you need to sign this I didn't understand what it was I was never told about it last year I got a letter in the mail so was
waiting for that but this year I came in a different form I did fill it out in June 18th and signed it send it back and I got a record saying hey you signed this letter great and then of course this year in September they tell me oh by the way you don't have any services that whole meeting so the whole the
point is I just was like okay well let me look at schools and they said you know what your son's too far behind at this point he's almost 11 years old he's missed out on years he's severely dyslexic what happened this is what happened the same thing that all these other parents are going through I pay my
tax dollars I'm promised services and now they've been denied I know everybody feels this pain but there has to be a solution um I'm just I feel for everybody in this situation and I'm so sorry thank you just just a reminder 11
years old is definitely not too late with dyslexia um I know so many people who have learned late late into their lives and so you're definitely not too late with your child so please keep but I do thank you I mean and this is
part of it I need but we need help I have to like I I have to take out a loan to pay for this and I pay taxes I understand thank you so much I I think that's true but how do I do this without help I need help and my tutor's now taken away from me I don't know what to do now my contact information is in the
chat box please reach out to me thank you thank you thank you the next person is um analisi Andi Miss Rodriguez uhuh interpreters
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course I can take it uh Miss anal you can go ahead and I will translate for you in ESP [Music] okay okay [Music] pro pro okay no all good I was just listening
because you guys are speaking in English can she be asked if the if she knows that we have live interpreters on the phone line and also that she signed up to speak on the Google sign up yes I sign up the
sheet okay thank you gracias okay okay sah sah Malik hello everyone I just wanted to represent uh the group of parents who did submit their I uh letter of intent by the deadline and for example for us
we did receive Services during the summer which counts as the new school year uh and yet we were denied services in August like everybody else I was however lucky enough to get it resolved fast because I had proof because I sent
my letter through email but I know a lot of stories of parents who sent their letter by the deadline but through the post and the doe came back and said they never received it and couldn't deny it because or challenged that because they didn't have
proof that's all I wanted to say thank you um and then Elizabeth Kirk she's you're our last speaker signed up hello hello go ahead Elizabeth hi um sure
sorry I'm G to pull up the page um I run a Facebook group more than 1300 parents and providers our group initially focused on connecting parents with set providers but due to the overwhelming need for information we've expanded support um to parents of children with wide range of needs including those who
are blind deaf autistic have Down syndrome emotional disturbances and more who have all been adversely affected this is not Li to just set Services um there's been a significant change in doe policy that the doe needs to explain
according to the doe standard operating procedural manual it was required to the CSE to send parents the June one letter by April first of the preceding school year from the doe this year the C csse did not email the letter however this policy was removed from the sopm on
August 30th of this year um so we would like to know why the doe changed the policy but when it was still in effect on April 1st why they didn't follow it legally the New York State Educational Department State Review Office also
known as SRO has ruled that there are other ways for parents to to secure Services besides submitting the June one letter an example of that would be if the parent requested um a service an ISP meeting between April 1st and June 1st
via email the Sor has ruled that is sufficient written notice because there's nothing in 362c that states that um that the Doe's letter is the only way to provide written notice other issues that other ways that you can that the
June one letter can be waved is having an ISP meeting after June 1st so if New York State Educational Department is ruling this why is doe not following it so you know that's some of our questions thank you thank you
for anyone who did not sign up if you would like to speak please raise your virtual hand we give a moment otherwise we'll move to the next item on our agenda which is our oh Amanda go ahead please hi I just um thank you so much
for everyone here it was really um informative listening to all the parents and the problems we're having with the doe um my question is more specific to the CCSC um because apparently I think your meetings are the as the
d75 uh president Council meetings and so I'm on District 23 we have a d75 representative that just needs to get um approved by the d75 council uh but I can't go to the meetings if I'm here because I'm also the IEP representative
and need to be here at the meeting so I wanted to know if there's any discussion about changing the dates of your meetings or a discussion with the 75 president Council about changing those dates because I really would like to attend both we we will talk to d75 council I
mean we're based on our bylaws um we certainly would have to amend our bylaws um to change the dates of our meetings but we will certainly talk to d75 thank you for bringing that up Amanda thanks can you hear me now okay thank
you Amanda I just wanted to add and I'm sure you know uh as an advocate yourself that many times we are multiple time we're are multiple meetings simultaneously and I say that understanding the frustration but um I'm I'm I'm saying
I'm not sure that we can do that but we will definitely reach out to d75 and see how we can work together thank you thank you everybody for your public comment we hear you loud and clear we appreciate it Maria you have your hand up please if
you'd like to speak uh two minutes for public comment thank you yes I do uh basically the same I'm affected in ISP parent my daughter has special needs and special services she had sets PT uh I've been home schooling uh because of my
daughter's needs the public school setting wasn't appropriate so she needed more supports I've been doing that same as other parents letters that the this letter in 10 that it they're now speaking of the June 1 deadline previously the csse had mailed it this
year did not did not say anything uh however I did send it in on my own uh now the csse that I've reached out to CSE 7 District 20 is not responding they're claiming that they did not receive it I even sent in multiple emails thereafter showing proof of the
form only to still get the same generic email that we did not receive it by June 1st however as with many other parents my daughter went many months without Services sets PT a whole year last year of no PT I just kept again reaching out
and they were saying oh yeah I know it's really unfortunate we can't find providers my daughter recently from the aggression took a fall she's 15 she knocked out her front two teeth and uh because of her coordination and balance this is now
something that now we will have to navigate in terms of what to do for her as a little a girl now that she is now we have them reimplant planted we don't know what's going to be but this is the result this is the very life of children
that what if this is what is happening to these children this is what is happening and again homeschool privately place we don't have the means of the funds but we are willing to do whatever means are necessary not everybody is privately placed in a in in a public school where we have financial means to
do it all however we are Advocates and we are there and we will do whatever means necessary to get the rights that our children need and deserve thank you for your time and I hope persistence and we can get some answers instead of just email email when when are we getting these Services when will our voices be
heard thank you thank you Maria okay I do not see any more hands up so that is the end of public comment thank you the last item onor agenda is I apologize we have a a in
person um so please my apologies take the opportunity to introduce myself I'm Cynthia Alvarez I'm the Manhattan parent and Community lay on at U uh UFT but most
importantly I'm you a former um chair and was Point president of of this Council uh public Advocate appointee to District 75 uh treasur for c
cc2 um so I I've just finished saying oh not much has changed but what I will say a lot of this stuff that we work collectively in collaboration with twe are being implemented so it's a lot easier for you now from the work that we
did in the past we have done several collaborative work with the Department of with with the special ed division which is now di which is really great Christina FY when she was acting but I also want to just show my services
I am available you can email me at um C Alvarez one we have resources over at UFC to support you and Trust I I know what you're going through my daughter we didn't know what what what she had
until we didn't discover that she had disp until her junior year in high school she is now working on her second Masters conratulations it is as I said before it's not a death sentence but together we can Advocate
and support each other thank Youk you okay next item on our agenda is our resolution on the omn cards weit Need Just a moment then we'll get started on that resolution okay do we have a motion to discuss the
Omni card resolution I have a mo I put a motion on the table to discuss the student Omni card resolution I second okay all in favor of opening up the discussion on the Omni card
resolution say I I oppos obain all right so the the motion is on the on the cards um that the resolution was distributed on
Monday um Heather would you like to discuss the resolution just give an overview for the public I'm mic is funny okay so um just to give a little background
um the MTA and and New York City public schools have um collaborated to offer student um Omni cards to public school students this Omni card is different than the student metro card and the fact
that it allows students four rides a day where the old metro card was three rides a day including transfers and it doesn't have a cut off time of 8:00 pm like the Metro cards did and it's available for students to use 24 hours a day 365 days
a year including weekends holidays school breaks um and the chancellor regulation on busing clearly states that if a child is assigned a bus route then they are not eligible to receive a student metro
card and in this sense they're applying the same we've received word from the special education office that they're applying the same eligibility to the student Omni card it is our belief that this is a discriminatory practice that is against the civil rights of students
with disabilities under the um Americans with Disabilities Act um students with disabilities are a protected class under that ACT public schools are considered a government entity operating under um I forget the actual words it's in it's in
the um but under the Ada they they qu they're qualified as um public schools are qualified as doing um public um government um activities so so therefore they are um hold held accountable to not discriminating against a protected class
of students with disabilities so because the Omni card does not off offers more access that will be denied to students who have a bus route um specifically our students with disabilities we believe that the eligibility is
discriminatory um so we laid out how it how it um is discriminates we've lots of citations in the and the resolution um and can I just highlight the the um therefores at the end so what we would like to ask is that we demand that the
New York City Public Schools um cease their discrimination of disabled students and provide equital access to public transit as non-disabled students in receto student Omni card um we also be it resolved that the ccse demands that the panel for Education policy
review Chancellor's regulation a-81 and amend the regulation to remove discriminatory policy and provide relig revision that ensures equity and reflects the current state of transportations for all students just note that that regulation has not been updated since the year 2000 the opt
contact information isn't even current it refers to bus routes that existed in Queens before MTA Consolidated the buses um there are titles of staff that don't exist anymore it is so out ofd um and we also want to be it resolved that the
ccse demands that the special education office Chancellor's office and opt collaborate with the Mt MTA to provide equable Equitable access to student Omni cards for all New York City students including any student with an IEP service by New York City public schools
and regardless of residential distance from their school um and you know their their specialized busing is a mandate under the Ida law um and on their IEP um and and get it because they're disabled and therefore they shouldn't they
shouldn't they should also be allowed the same access to the public transit as the students that are receiving this amazing card that gives them rides 20 24 hours a day 365 days a year um and and school busing is also not an
equitable um it's not as Equitable to the student Oni card the buses are late there's kids even today that don't have a bus route um they miss services they don't get bus from after school there's just so many issues with busing you can't even begin to describe it as
an equitable service so that's just the the quick and dirty I just want to clarify that we know Omni cards are actually do impact our students that are not in our public schools that are receiving IEP services
so that was available to parochial schools I believe charter school students got them so just to clarify um and then just want to add and I think we talk about this in the resolution how it was introduced by the MTA and the mayor
as access for our students all New York City public school students to have access to learning outside of the classroom that means having access to go to our public libraries and our museums and all of these um amazing
opportunities to learn in a different way that many of our students that are new are Divergent really really benefit from and so that just to uplift that and thank you thank you Heather thank
you Lupe thank you um any other discussion on this resolution on Omni cards I do have one of the we houses that I need to amend um it's the one that says
where the a bus delay of is considered valid after 30 minutes I don't have any evidence that that is written anywhere however I did find um on the Doe's um infoweb um so I I tweaked that to read
whereas a bus delay is only required to be reported if it is a delay if it's delayed 15 minutes for heavy traffic or a bus breakdown and 30 minutes for an accident Heather where do you have that language is that language you can put in
the chat box please just so we have it officially listed okay if you could type the the Revis language in there that would be helpful so the current language says whereas even a 30 minute delay can impact a disabled students access to
their mandated special education program related Services that's not whereas a bus delay may be considered valid only if a bus arrives later than 30 minutes after the first go okay and then we're going to strike that out and put in the language you're putting in the chat
box Tam um thank you to the drafters of this resolution and I've seen some outside of citywides I've seen some CC's taking up this issue as well um not particularly focusing on students with disabilities
but focusing on the inequities the socio economic um inequities that exist when you give access to some students and not others but what I was going to say is I'm thinking back to the transit training and the guests that we had um
come talk to us about that that awesome program and I'm thinking that while we're fighting for more Subway access for our students um that we also look to expand and fund that program so that it can serve more students at a younger age
um and maybe we write something or do something around that just to complement those if they get these Omni cards be really fabulous to to teach them how to you know take the train take the bus with confidence um
yeah yeah and thank you and I think the only thing that I will add is I'd like to dispel the rumors because I'm seeing in social media in in some writings that the MTA is getting bulked in this conversation as a decision maker when in
fact the MTA is not a part of this we reached out to the MTA and it's also written in the resolution who have confirmed with us that doe and solely doe is responsible for placing um decisions on who will receive Omni
cards and this is a personal uh pet peeve for me but the DOE cited to us language of a rule for Metro cards and we are not speaking about Metro cards we are speaking about a completely different service so you know to bulk
the two together I think is slightly discriminatory in itself and I think there are some there's whereases in there that address it that reference the the communication and quote that we got from the disability access office at MTA um and
also the fact that Omni is not a card it's very different it's vastly different um and also to speak to the economic um things too um in the press conference that the mayor gave they spoke a lot about how this will help um lower income and Working Families um to
uh reduce their costs and and benefit them economically and just to put it out there we have families waiting two years to get reimbursed for for taking their kids to school because their school busing um was not in place um some of these families it's thousands of dollars
so when we want to talk about economic equity let's talk about the families that are out all that money and still waiting and I think it's to our understanding that MTA assumed that every New York City student was going to get one of these Omni cards so I just
want to name that so A couple of things um the first therefore um there is in Brackets some information we need to strike out so that's on the last page third paragraph from the end the first therefore in Brackets we just
need to strike that formatting out it was just a Clarity but that's got to be out of there for the final um vote the other thing I'll say is at our last Town Hall the chancellor had with us back in February of 23 he had this direct quote
your education simply doesn't exist within the four walls of your building and there's no better place to learn than New York City there are so many things that happen the whole world lives here we should be taking advantage of that and all of our kids should be
should be provided with opportunities that's what the chancellor said so for the chancellor to deny our students those opportunities is flat outrun we will talk to the chancellor in less than the month about that I will remind him of what he told our Council and all the
parents and families at that meeting and obviously he's if he doesn't even believe in his own words then what's going on um but we will we will hold him accountable at our town hall with the chancellor again October 10th 6:30 p.m.
at the Clinton School on 15th Street Mark I would if it's okay with the council I would like to include that as awas that you just spoke so if you could because I wanted to but I couldn't find
where he said that so if you could drop it in the chat um we can in put in there it was during our town hall from last year um so it's cited and I would I think it's important for that to be in there I don't mean to be a stickler but
I need to highlight the time it's 8:23 and we still have a full schedule all right so is there a motion to vote on this resolution we would have to place a motion to
accept the written version with amending the uh the three Corrections or edits after for whoever's going to set the motion I make a motion to accept the resolution with the three amendments one
being the definition of the late bus delays um one being to strike out the brackets on the therefore be resolved and to add the additional whereas quoting the Chancellor from our town hall I
second all in favor opposed we heard you the third time any abstentions thank you it passes Rose we got the roll call this
was just to accept the Amendments now we have roll call okay we are moving or voting I'm sorry voting on The Omni card resolution with the amendments to the U resolution Carolyn
Castro yes Heather daily yes Mark Gonzalez yes Lupe Hernandez yes is Shain still online yes and I vote
Yes Tam Reed Moes Rosario yes Maggie Sanchez yes Essa rasis she's said yes in the language
line okay thank you we have nine yeses the resolution pass thank you everybody all right let's take a very short break because we have a very long business meeting coming up so three minutes five
minutes great all right 3 minutes it's now 8:26 8:29 please let's we'll start her up I'd like to talk to the bangala and Mandarin interpreters your excus we don't have anyone using the service Spanish can you
please remain we do have three people on the line thank you thank you so much thank you so much thank you good night good night e okay thank you everybody it is 8:31 p.m.
on Thursday September 19th it is the CC's business Mee calling the Mee to order Rose can we please have roll call Carolyn Castro here Heather daily Mark Gonzalez present Lupe
Hernandez presid sham here samario Maggie Sanchez estasis yeah so Heather would you you have a motion please I would like to make a motion to open up
public comment on the Omni card U and make apologies that we forgot sir a second sir a second Tim thank you all in favor of opening a public comment during the business meeting to discuss omnic
card all in favor opposed abstain all right ice have it thank you I apologize to to all those um out there I I was totally my fault I I my deepest apologies if there is anyone would like to speak on the Omni
card situation or or anything else at this time please just raise your virtual hand or physical hand so we can see you and call on you get my deepest apologies okay I do not see
anybody oh Esther please go ahead Esther hi good evening everybody in regards to the Omni card I'm in agreement with everybody saying and there's a lot of benefits to them children with with disabled are being
discriminated interpreter we cannot hear you can you hear me on the zoom now yes okay parent was um um parent was saying that I am in favor of what everybody's saying in regards to the Omni um card situation um I feel
that it is um discriminating against children with um for um special needs and then I'm in favor of um having this be expanded to them thank you thank you Esther my apologies okay um for the business
meeting the approval of minutes interpreter can you please go on mute or do you have anything else from Esther okay thank you all right so the meeting minutes were distributed last week by Rose everybody
are there any amendments adjustments or changes to the meeting minutes yes the the line means that they were they missed the initial roll call but they were there during the actual meeting so they are present but present
but late to the calendar meeting but still were at the calendar meeting we can change it to just say present because at the end they were present for the calendar meeting we want to make that revision all right so okay so Rose will change that to late
are there any other amendments other than changing the dotted lines too late oh you were absent Moises was absent okay so August 8 you were here okay good all right so yeah yes so
we will change the to late for for both Tam and MOA roll call on the calendar and on for uh Tam and invoices for the business meeting okay if there are no other
changes then the meeting minutes are accepted as adjusted thank you next L you have a question comment oh no okay next next is the co-president
report I would like to defer to later we have a lot of stuff on the agenda Carolyn yeah I yielded my time earlier and my my members report has been submitted to Maggie and Rose thank you um anyone with a member
report CHS how do I I classes just see the microphone um there's a dyslexia SL discala or disgrafia um ni said info session or hearing on I believe it's like the Upper
East Side we all got an email from Rose about it but I know we get a lot of emails thank you Rose so I just wanted to call everybody's attention to it um so I put it in the chat earlier but it's October 1st um I'm not sure totally what it's about but it seems like it might have been relevant to some of the
parents who are here tonight speaking about um stuff so thank you Tam any other member reports okay committee reports does anyone want to report on committees or do we want to go to the Chancellor's
Town Hall sorry um I I just wanted a quick update on the annual report and the IEP conference because I would like to start thinking about the next next ones I think it's just been tough our
Focus has been getting our kids back to school in the IP stuff Omni stuff that it you know on the list of priorities for annual report anyway it has kind of been pushed down um I can't speak on the IEP conference I had a conflict that came up
where I was not going to be able to that day and then we had two speakers that um it became an issue we need to have another meeting to figure out a new date and make sure we have the speakers on time and then set that my guess is we probably talk in
January um but we need to get speakers confirm for that type of time frame but we can certainly discuss um either offline or at our next council meeting or set Tam we should actually set up a a meeting so we need to give Rose at least
10 days ahead of time so you can get interpretation set up Rose is that enough time for interpretation meeting notice what's that Rose there was talk about having two this year at one point I think um we can still stick with one and have it in
Spring later than January when you when you were talking about having it and that's it just have the one one this year and then work on the next one for the 2025 2026 right I promise I won't be long um along
those lines yes I agree with you Rose I was thinking that not to interrupt your flow of your IEP conference we can pivot what this year's IP meeting would be and have like an open house for
certain of doe and have our families come in and directly meet with those divisions and we could use that for our IP conference space without it being an actual I AP conference like a fair
right we will get a date together um so we can discuss that it's an interesting idea but we'll we'll work on a date to discuss that as a committee meeting I just wanted to say we have had similar events fairs and we can go back to having something like that as well it
usually happens in September the beginning of school year but we can have it in Spring as an IP conference I think after the town hall we should have our um subcommittee or committee meeting for the IEP
conference I think everything until then is just a little intense um I know that would be helpful um for lot of people Mark but yeah maybe we can chat and set that up for right after the town hall does that
sound good to people okay next topic is the town hall oh tther um so just to give an update on what's going on with the busing stuff you know the years off to a stellar start like every other year um I'm
getting lots of emails and reports and they we're busing is just a total disaster and we can all like Fain our shock and all um but um the busing committee we have the OCR complaint we've been in touch with the legal team um the OCR has not opened an official
investigation um are the legal teams that put the complaint together have met with them a couple of times they're a little concerned that they're being kind of Blas about it um and so what they think will help is if they have more stories from parents for from the summer
in this year um to keep sending these things to OCR so that they can see that these issues persist they they happen every year there has been no resolution um and so I wanted to put a motion on the table I created a basically a form
that I can post and we can just continue to leave it open and collect um responses but it's really for parents to fill out and um but their email their name their email and the the story and then I I have it where they can click off the different complaints that were
included in the OCR complaint like where their story fits in and then they can give their their story and it explicitly says it gives a little background explicitly says in the form that by submitting the form they're giving consent for us to send their contact information and their story to the
lawyers that put the complaint together and we also have a question about if they're willing to be put on a list that we can contact if we get contacted by press um and we wouldn't just give their name to press we would it says there we would reach out to them first but it's nice to have a list of go-tos right of
parents um so I just wanted to put the motion out there to um to have the counselor's permission to start posting that form okay so is there a second so what exactly is the motion Heather to be allowed to distribute the
form okay is there a second I second all in favor of the motion to distribute a form using the CCS mailing list and I one
exension shamine I'm sorry sorry I said I so thank you Heather and thank you for working on that to send it out on behalf of the ccsse okay so we are on to unfinished business now with the Chancellor's Town Hall as a reminder it will be in person
at Clinton School on was it 10 East 15th Street um October 10 6:30 p.m. the chancellor arrives 7:30 p.m. exactly the meeting will end and so there
is I have a question for face Anthony we requested 90 minutes with the chancellor do we have an update I will be happy to call out the chancellor on the day of the time can we get on the record what we have
not received a response to our requests for the 90 minutes and we were being told to ask on the day of while we are there live in front of the public so what happened during the cc3
meeting that t had the town hall there they were running late with a lot of questions still to ask they did ask for more time the chancellor did Grant more time so there's precedence for that happening but he could easily say no as well or have something double booked you
know for after so you know it's not as simple as a yes know and he'll do it but Tam um Anthony sorry to put you on the spot well not really I'm just kidding have you I couldn't I couldn't hear you that's just why I'm asking you to to say
this again so did you put the request in for 90 minutes on our behalf and he he personally told you to ask him at the meeting or you just never got a response you've never heard sorry can you hear me yes uh so I don't
directly go to the chancellor my supervisors do so I just put it in our I guess chat or discussion for whatever my Council wants and then they escalate it from there essentially so I haven't heard back yet
doesn't mean that they haven't asked it just means I haven't heard back yet once I hear back from them you'll know should we bother them I can follow up um and I can tell you by next week to see what they say or just like even just a paper
tril like just CCS on the correspondence so that we can have that in our record because we need to you know have that but and when I don't I don't feel comfortable asking him on the spot to adjust to 90 minutes because we need to plan and we need to time block and so
there's a huge difference between planning out and time blocking for a 60 Minute session versus a 90 minute session so I would like to know like yesterday so I'm just wondering how we can escalate this not that it's
Anthony's fault at all but like how do we get an answer I defintive yes or no I just got a text from senior senior member of face um the question is will the council be interested in starting
your Town Hall at 6 p.m. and then at 7 p.m. 30 minutes earlier and 30 minutes earlier I responded I will ask them any chance he will do 90 minutes as we had requested so we will so so he is the CH
appears the chancellor is willing to start at 6: pm. so I'm find starting at 6: p.m. if we can go to our regly scheduled 7:30 time end time um it with the council be okay with that if he is willing to negotiate that
way or would you rather go with this this current 63730 if you won't go for the additional time or do you want to just do the 6 to 7 I'm opening up I would like 6: to 7:30 and if he can come at 6:30 then 6:30 to
8:00 thank you thank you any other comments on that any guidance you want me to respond with that much understand I I think it would be also I don't like these microphones I think it would be
beneficial for this to be in email form we will get an email together tonight yes so it's good we can't all talk at the same time no no no that's not it it's because you know they have the button there so I want to follow up on the on
that proposal from the from you know about the chancellor if he comes in at 6 does that mean that he's thinking of leaving at at at s wait the proposal I received was a chance for like to start a half hour
early at 6 o'clock and end at 700 p.m. same hour block that's not what I I want and I've heard no one like that yeah he he wants in an hour still just hour shifted earlier we we would like an hour
and a half yes that would be the represent more I'm so sorry I'm so sorry it it it it annoys me to no degree we are a Citywide Council we are a policy Council and we represent not only the children in districts one through
32 homeschooled non-public school students charter school students through high school this is not a small Council we have a huge representation with a multitude of issues that date back to
before any of us were on this Council and then I'm going to end by saying I was reviewing our last town hall and I said in the meeting that my son's at device was not fully being supported and this was two years ago and he is in the sixth grade and he still doesn't have
the supports for his at device I just wanted to add on okay so if he's requesting to start the meeting a half hour earlier and still end so and he wants a hard end time of seven that to
me that's saying that he has something else he needs to do that evening so I would say stick to 6:30 7:30 and then get that half hour that we know he's available because he's offering it to us right but do not concede to a 6 to7
knowing that he has something else going on cuz that's what it sounds like to me does that make sense I might be just a total paranoid person you're reading the rumors I would read it I hads has one hour with him tonight
we will see the video shortly to see if there was any extension of time the video should be up midday tomorrow on the Vimeo site that learning times um uses I was going to say that I
misunderstood before so I don't agree to making it earlier unless he is accommodating that extra half hour loud and clear okay so I I just want to point out um
sometimes it's just better to take take what they give then then try to fight and and get more and it maybe here or no this is his first visit no was and how long did he stay that
time it was strictly an hour but here's the problem we had introductions and the first you know the opening by the chancellor and the opening by CCSC Co president at that time and by the time he asked started answering the
first question it was 14 minutes end and so that's one of the things I want to talk about is we got to get all that stuff done in in seconds the interpretations got to be done fast the openings got to be done fast so we maximize that either hour and a half or
hour of question time so we can get the most questions in during that time if we're going to and I think we mentioned this the last meeting or at least at the committee where we discussed we would take care of all the those legistics
introductions before he even walks in the building no yeah um I'm GNA cut in Mark sorry I want to remind everybody we are we have a lot to go through and we're on time so I'm going to be very short with a lot of you
moving forward so I'm apologizing now um but we did talk about what we did previous ly I think what we need to be focusing now on is selecting who's going to do what at the Town Hall I think we've already made consensus about the
90 minutes so we should follow up accordingly we need to check for the MC who's going to be managing the questions there's Logistics we need to start talking about let me run through how the town
hall on February of 23 three went um we had one person um who was the MC from CCC BB from face was did her initial and that took almost four minutes for face
to do their initial introduction and welcome and and interpretation after that there was a ccsse intro and then the chancellor then there was ground rules it took almost two minutes then the chancellor spoke for about five minutes
then first question happened about the 14-minute mark and right at the hour mark it ended and so you know we we've got to consolidate all that down we had we had a working group which many of you
were were in um and we did talk about a lot of that Logistics that Caroline's talking about um I think it's important so the layout was we had one CCSC person that did the initial intro and then Carolyn and Heather at that
time alternated asking questions of the chancellor um and those were questions that ccsse had questions that the public had submitted as roses printed up from Anthony's emails to us and then other questions from the comment cards that
happen during the meeting so there'll always be comment cards um that face Representatives will hand out and certainly we can hand out as well if we want um but at that meeting they vowed to answer any and all questions from
comment cards we got back I believe a few months later responses from doe Central but it took a little bit of time for it to happen but it did happen the expectation would be that again but we will certainly we I believe we need to in that meeting make
sure that any comments or questions go on are answered if for questions that were similar um to ones already asked we also um if ones were like oh this is really important we made sure and ones that weren't as
specific to special education we we left to have them answer after so are we still talk yes I I wanted to I was okay that this is how we're proposing
because La last Town Hall I think was very successful um well we can talk about it again but the point being that last Town Hall was very successful because everyone knew what they were doing before showing up
to Clinton High School so what I would like is for right now to talk about who's going to do what I sorry M go ahead before that so how it did work is we limited questions to three minutes and responses to two Chancellor did not
like how his responses limited to two minutes I'm okay with that his comment was Bas and I'm going to paraphrase it was basically I can't give you this good and in-depth answer um in two minutes but the follow-up response from CSC was the any more complex ones you can give
us in rating your responses or give the family a response in writing or further communication with that individual that way we're not drawing on and on and on I also want to point out that he um
kicked some of the questions off to his staff um me personally it's my personal opinion it doesn't have to be anybody else's um I'm I'm not interested in hearing um we have a good relationship with John Hammer I'm not interested in
him answering questions that we're asking of the chancellor I not interested necessarily in Mark reran talking about school safety when really this is about the town hall with the chancellor and holding the chancellor accountable that's just my personal opinion thank you we need to limit all
of that I love you but we need to limit all that I'm holding it and it goes off um I would like to recommend that Mark be the MC because he manages all of our meetings anyway I will be your
second because I feel like I may lose my patience that night and I feel more confident in asking very direct questions and if Heather is okay with it managing the questions like we did last time but I would also like to open it up for new
members to have the opportunity to ask questions um before I forget so I understand that we're stressed for time but there have been requests made to share a Google document with all of the information from the organizing meeting
that we had in August the planning committee for the town hall those notes who was doing what and I think in the future I just want to say now we really need to do that we have a shared Google Drive for a reason and if we share these things like the
logistics we already started talking then that was what the whole purpose of that meeting was about who was going to do what and we were going to do it just one second so I just I can do that but I don't have access to the drive when I opened it nothing happened so I think it would help us in these planning meet or
in these business meetings when we actually have those drives shared amongst us but also what I was going to just say is I like the idea of other members also getting to speak and ask a question of the chancellor I've been dying to ask that man a question for a very long time and so I think that we
can divide it up that way and that would be a nice thing to do if we can um and then there was something else and I forgot what it was oh limit please limit Chancellor Banks opening remarks because it's our meeting and we
can give them a hard time limit like you've got three minutes and we're going to cut you off um I would like to respond to you Tam everything that we're saying is in support of what you're saying so the reason why we're giving him two minutes is because we don't want him to fill a
buster waste our time I'm saying that plainly um and we're allowing longer time for the explanation to the question um what else was I going to say we could not give you a Playbook and I I hear you on the access to the Google we
need to talk to you after but in terms of having things provided to you before this meeting as the committee we couldn't have done that we had to have that conversation here the committee brings the conversation to the council and the council votes on it and I'm just reiterating that for the newer members
so they're aware of it um so now that we're talking about it yes we will get some documents out and together and send the prior town hall for you all to view it um I would like to go back to ass signing because then I would like to talk about how we're going to gather
questions so I don't can somebody do we have to make a motion for this no to oh we're just discussing okay I so I'm going to reiterate I would like Mark to be moderator I would like all of us
to ask questions to the the chancellor and I would like for Heather and I to be responsible for collecting those questions is everybody okay with that so can I can we just put it in the chat or something you know I'm going to
take notes so so so the so um Mark is going to be moderator no MC you're going to be his second okay and now we and and Heather is going to
be in charge of the questions I need to know that Mark is going to be okay telling the chancellor thank you thank you and move on would you like me to instead of being his second co- preses co-reside with him on that night I can do that because I
can tell him to back off no problem no problem Lupe no problem okay we need sorry so since it's also going to be on
Zoom I'm is is the chat is there is the chat disabled or on and is we need a moderator for the chat and it there's no moderator for the chat yeah there's no chat there's a Q&A function
yeah learning times run runs the webinar we we are not in charge of the live stream or the digital access that Folks at home will be turn turning into so it's learning times they have
captioning they have uh and typically it's the chat is usually disabled in in my experience the chat is disabled but sometimes they would have the Q&A web are
optional Anthony you want to speak please so yes learning times does take questions uh they will write it on a comment card and then we give it to whoever is in charge of collecting the questions and if it's in a different
language they interpret it as well so as I'm understanding I just want to make sure I apologize Carolyn and I will MC Heather's doing the Gathering of the questions with whom and then the so Heather and Lupe
will do the Gathering the questions in the sorting and then who from the council is going to be asking the questions on behalf okay is there an order we want to do now or we want to figure out the order later because it's going to be a looping around right multiple times each
person will ask over time it will usually be based on seating so we can't really I first second third until we get there and people are in their seats so we us we went what left to right right it was like we will have a
timekeeper she wants to be the timekeeper want it's a very important job Loretta did fantastic okay ahead no I think he was motioning to Rose yeah yeah let me know if you want that
my question is who is going to be on the DAT is the entire Council okay yes so and Anthony that's part of the reasons to have the the walk through with with learning time just to make sure we we know how long the table needs to be I.E how many people from Doe
are going to be on the dis as wellage and then everybody on the counc plus whoever coming from the Department of special education so they have a to the transfer as well um
so that is pretty much going to be the same Arrangement as last year because nothing has changed um essentially for the last Town Hall we had we had four council members only four on the table there is
potential to have double that amount this time around and then Rose what was I gonna ask you you were just saying something and I was GNA ask you oh the council can we confirm with the council members who I guess closer to the date
who will be in person yep thank you we had Lupe I raised her hand earlier first and then Heather Lupe he I don't know if you guys have seen But the diversity
access cultural committee that they actually shared earlier in their presentation they have been doing um little shorts and I've seen on on the subway uplifting some of the students artwork from the disability art um
Awards and so I'm thinking is it okay if maybe we reach out to them and see if they have any reels that we can have sharing like prior like the hour yes in the background on the screen prior to the meeting starting or even a post yeah if they can
bring some to decorate even the for yay I just think that we can really it's an opportunity for us to uplift our students that are doing some amazing things okay let's move forward so last year I know my son did because that's who was there and
volunteered but um we had one like kid like students ask a question um so I think we can procure those students from the the families here on the council so we might want to consider if some of our children want to ask one of the
questions who or ask a question that they feel strongly about so I just want to put that on the table because I think that's really powerful um and then Loop and I just in a little slide chatter we're saying what if we um ask families if they're comfortable sharing a picture of them with their kids and we can make
a slideshow that just gets played while people are coming in and sitting down and they can have that that gives a face to to the people we represent I I want to respect all of our time we need to move forward I don't want to be rude because I'm I'm not trying especially to you I'm not trying
to be rude but what you have wonderful ideas but we need to be able to manage all of the ask all of the asks and all of the things we have to we have other items that we have to discuss so if we can get through all of that and then we want to
work on a collage fine but we got to do the surveys we got to do the question there's a lot of other items I'm having a panic attack because I don't know what's what we're going to cover right now on the to-do list of the logistics so I just want to make sure that this gets on there we talked about
food and drinks I offered to have our PA pay for it now we've missed that deadline because they are met so I would like to know if the doe is going to provide or if you could provide coffee Donuts like something you know to have to our guests okay so our school probably won't be able to do
it now because they just had their meeting um but they offered okay um the other thing was we talked about having um like goodies we talked about having swag we talked about having pencils with like ccsse on it or
and we talked about this at the meeting I just want to make sure it's on the list for tonight that's all I'm saying people okay guys I'm G to have to I'm going to have to bring us all back we cannot talk about anything until we talk about the
meat and potatoes which are the questions I would like to put it to the council that it be okay with the council that we send out a survey for the public to ask questions I would like to ask if the
council is okay with us collecting questions of our own for the town hall that we can share in between meetings and that we can I don't want to say discuss because I know that there is a conflict with that but a live document
for us to collect questions to be presented at the town hall because work has to happen in between our meetings do we need to vote on that no okay okay I'm
okay yeah so Heather Carolyn you'll both work on us either one of you work on a survey to send out to gain additional questions from the community I just want to make sure that um Esther if she has any questions or
she wants to say anything on the Spanish line and also uh shamine I'm fine so the questions I don't know because there was already one created um I don't know if you just want to advertise the registration page that we have and then they can ask the
questions there and like I have been doing sending it to Rose so that you don't have to do extra work it's already created that's up to you um I would like to ask the council how we feel about that I'm going to be honest with you Anthony I'm not in favor
of that because I don't know what the intake looks like and I don't know what happens when it's intake and then provided to us um but that's just me I would like to know what the council feels about that I am also 100% in favor that was
the way that from what I understand how it was done last last year and it worked that was the system if it's not broken then why why mend it so I am in full agreement with that my feeling is we encourage families
to register for the event and certainly we should note in the survey to please register and remind them there is a spot to ask questions there as well but definitely I think us putting out the survey for us to gauge the call even the
percentage or you know hot and cold certain topics are because that's also going to guide us for the rest of this school year or rest of our term on future topics for meetings um I would like to still send out our own because um um just because
we all exist in this community and outside of the our relationship with the public school offices and I I find that for our surveys leveraging the connections I have in other spaces to be
highly effective and getting um responses so that's why I would like to send our own um and not everybody trusts filling out a form that's sent out IDE and we don't know if it's a free form or if it's pre- select a
question another question damn it it just left my head another question was goad Mar yeah so it is a free form when you register it is a free form it's you know I i' I've tried it out and done it before so that it is coming here that
being said I still think it's important for us to do it um with the with the time limits I would rather just my opinion you here one question one minute not not a multi-part question from individuals
it's one question for one minute and then give the chancellor and team 3 minutes to respond that would be my recommendation based on watching about eight different videos um over over the last three weeks um of eight other Town
Halls it just looked like when there's a multi-part question it doesn't get answered or certainly parts of them don't get answered so I'd rather limit it to one question per and then keep it tight that way it's very clear what you got to answer and then I think Carol if
we're MCN if we hear a non-answer answer we need to follow up quickly and go you know what's the answer rather than limiting the time for the question to be asked and answered maybe the entire
thing be within five minutes meaning what I'm saying is because I I remember you said that you gave the question three minutes one minute additional because of the explanation of
many of the problems but I think that might be even to the multi-part questions that get asked but if you're saying you have five minutes and that's it's to ask the question and for them to answer whether that you it took you 30
seconds to answer the question that gives the chancellor a little bit more to to answer can we can we table that one question I feel like I need I need to think about it and I need to look at some of the footage to see because what we were trying to do what the goal was
was to stop the filibustering which happens in town halls um we were very intentional to ask the question and to get an answer um yeah give me a few minutes to think about that okay just give me a few minutes to think
about it I would like to ask the council how they feel about providing the questions to the chancellor before the town hall I'm still asking because we're a council no was that done
previously for just for full transparency Anthony and Fa have asked on behalf of the chancellor for question ahead of time the rationale correct me if I'm wrong there's more so they can make sure they have the right people in the room to answer questions because the
chancellor is honest he doesn't know everything and so Heather your comment about I'd rather have the chancellor answer honestly I'd rather Chancellor not I'd rather I'd rather have the person who knows the answer answer um and that means we need more people from doe to be at the meeting so we can have
the competent person answer um that being said we can certainly work with Anthony on these are the general topics that we believe need to be there and we've certainly talked about them so I think we're in pretty good shape on that I would like to answer moyes's
question so the answer is no we did not provide questions last time because we did not want we wanted to avoid having canned answers um and we we asked which I think we probably will ask again that anyone I know I've said this to you
anyone who interacts with a student with a disability should should be at that meeting because we know he's not going to be able to answer that we know he's not going to be able to answer all the questions we know he's going to insult our community so we would like I mean he I'm sorry he did it at the last uh
Friday there was a meeting and he had a presser and the first thing he said was you know knocking a parent whose child wasn't picked up by the bus it's like oh well why don't we have good commentary I don't want to hear about a mother whose kid wasn't picked up and it's like I'm
going to take now but that's what we want to avoid we want to hold him accountable for what's happening in this community what's not happening in this community as you saw this evening and we don't want rehearsed answers are there certain questions we
can provide that you know would benefit from the rehearse answer and then the ones where we really want to get uh an actual response for him that day they keep those separate to the
committee the chancellor and his cabinet and all those from special education will get copies of every single question we ask and we are going to ask as they did last time for a response and more
detailed response that um we expect in writing and we will follow up with all of the questions even the questions that get submitted that we don't ask live on stream so I was just going to reference
like the questions that we have here I'm already reading some of these and I can see the answer is going to be well we've expanded The Nest program D D D D D and we already know that because they've said it at our meeting three times now and we don't want to waste our time with them just pardon the crude expression
vomiting they've already told us over and over and over again in their presentations some of these we already have answers to you know um we want we want genuine on in the moment responses to some tough questions I have a question for Anthony
the questions that you submitted us have those been provided to the Chancellor's office will they be so the way we did it last year cuz I did have your questions from last year cuz I remember cuz I made the copy for you and I gave it to everybody on the
day so you did provide questions to me last year um no because I came with the questions at the Town Hall and I put it in everybody's folder that was there it could have been it could have been we specifically said to said no to
face last time so the questions you're referring to were probably what was submitted to you already it could have been I can't recall I just remember the questions that I gave um I forgot what was the other question sorry oh no I did not pro
I don't provide any questions as the only questions I provide is anything that I get from the council um so the way it works is once they get uh register they ask that question um learning time then has a document I get
that document and I just send it to you so that was the only so you're reiterating what we said which is we had our own questions that were not shared then what was publicly provided to learning times is what you shared and and gave us on the day of but
we had a separate set of questions with ourselves so to answer your question yes he will have some questions beforehand because the those who register and provide questions to learning times will go to him I just want to also remind the
council that like I saw the shamine wanted to to talk I want to follow up with if Esther wants to talk you know because we have them online so J mean do you are you online do you have any questions or comments Esther do
you have any questions or comments just want to make sure you're we're waiting I'd like Tam has been waiting so I'd like to give her the moment go ahead shimi yes I was just gonna say no I don't have any um questions at this time
I'm just following along while we're waiting let's Sam ask the question it was it was a similar question to to Anthony to the face team just for confidentiality um if we don't want any questions shared with the chancellor just to have um that Clarity right that
questions if we decide not to have questions shared with him they won't be they won't be shared um that's a concern definitely I I I feel like we discussed this a second ago I didn't get to necessarily chime in on it I don't think that he should receive the questions
beforehand I don't agree that it's like well they should have the questions so they can have all these people there to answer all the questions sorry um it's the chancellor it's a town hall with a Chancellor I want to know what he knows and I don't want him passing it off to everybody that's
there I think that's really important and I definitely don't want you know I don't think any of us want like the can Dan ERS um so that that's my opinion on that topic just so it's it's on the record but also I know that we talked about the planning committee at the planning committee meeting for the town
hall about the followup questions we discussed that in quite you know deep detail for for a long time about how that was going to work and we came to the consensus I believe correct me if I'm wrong because I could be totally wrong on this that there would be a a standard statement if we got a
non-answer right like we want we putting it into record that we want to follow up on this question because it was not answered right you did not and then move on but that it was verbally on record during the recording right yeah so that
would be Mark in par yeah okay thanks okay um so I think just to reiterate we are are we all on the same page with not providing the questions
yes it seems so yes okay Anthony we're not we're not providing questions um I don't know that to answer your question I don't know that we can control the questions that are coming into learning time just I want to make
that clear learning time is going to get them through the through the uh registration if people don't want to give a question they don't have to but they certainly need to register if they want to have the web link that being said you can
always go on the day of so what are you talking about then the questions that when people register for the meeting and they have a question I didn't know if those questions were going to the chancellor Anthony's statement was that
he does not share the learn the questions at registration with the Chancellor's office initially that being said they become doe property and doe can do whatever the heck they want with them so just be clear it's public records at that point once it's registered There's No
Limit okay so to get back to things we're saying no for our for questions that are sent to ccsse directly we're saying no for uh getting and Gathering questions we are going to start a document for our internal questions we
are going to send a survey out for public questions and we will be collecting the questions that are provided on the day of so we would need I can probably do this since I'm co- moderator um indiv
individuals uh to walk the audience and collect those questions Anthony I think last time we had help from people at face collecting those questions right and and then once they were collected we held on to the questions
right we held on to the questions and we submitted them and we submitted them to you for response yeah all right I I wrote that down and I will follow up with the whole Council on
the discussion points for this evening I'll say one thing I heard we want all the people to have direct um impact with students I think it's more than that it's also like I want SCA there school construction Authority because we're talking a five plus billion dollar
Budget on new schools and we need to make sure the schools are built properly to the law and we're actually make them accessible to students and accessible doesn't just mean the physical space um uh it's also you know what type of
materials being used and that's something that's gets missed a lot of time with new buildings so Anthony can we get confirmation from who on the Chancellor's cabinet will be at the meeting I anticipate the dial team will be there but aside from that
because students with disabilities touch various offices so for example his child is in charter school will his child have representation at the Town Hall Maggie's child is in a
non-public school will her child have representation at the Town Hall anybody else any any other division that anybody else can think of yeah no that's the IP group yeah so you're you're talking to isps you're talking to non the 853 4410
people you're you're talking you know it's it's a lot of different things it's obviously it's Kevin with busing and probably John with busing would we' expect to be there ramper s for school safety and the bullying and all
that at the cat team we would expect to be their um related Services because we saw how many complaints it was over 800 complaints um that they've received in the special education inbox
can we have a um a UFT rep present to to talk to some of these Pol policies that are already there or state guidance right New York State education department guidance that the UFT is now publishing on their website that's what happened with sets
and I'm well I just wanted to ask if it would be appropriate since that's a something that's being pushed not by necessarily the doe but by the UFT um and where that overlap happens and we're talking about minimum and maximum service hour requirements that
involves UFT members right and the UFT rep it is in this case do you think that's a conversation where it would be worth having someone from the UFT there or or not no oh that here that's Cynthia
who was here from UFT or one of the other special education people we can certainly invite no we is not a UFT meeting this is a meeting with the community with the chancellor but well what I can interject and say
is we can do that with the conversation that I brought up earlier for the quote unquote IEP conference we can have UFT come in and field questions then so I'm not saying no I'm saying table it
um Tam one of the speakers we were going to have for the IP conference was from UFT um with compliance and so that's part of what you're talking about that's their job is to compliance with exactly what you're describing I mean that's what we had on the agenda for the
conference time keeping it's almost it's 9:30 it's almost 10 o'cl so I don't know if we get going with the rest of the stuff and just exchange my email do we have any other open items for the town hall I think we've covered all the town
hall we'll have that shared document we'll have the survey that goes out um we'll write down on the shared document the assignments that we discussed Rose we will need tent cards that have the individuals names I'm not sure if that's done by by you Rose or it's face but we
tent cards for names and uh I think you know we're ready for the next topic if that if we could move on which is the co-sponsor Pupil Transportation town hall with pist NYC and d75 president
Council thank you Mark okay so we got contacted by the uh d75 president's Council they are having a Pupil Transportation Town Hall tomorrow and they asked if ccsse would
co-sponsor um as a formality I we offered support with the contingency that the council agrees to it so I'm asking the council if we agree to co-sponsor the um the piss town hall and
I I believe Heather would be the person right it's you would be it means that we would she's whoever is going to go on behalf of us would speak on behalf of the busing issues and advocacy and um what like what we do
here I think probably what I will what what I'll talk about has highlight um the reso that we passed on the student Omni cards and then also field the form um so that families can share their experiences that will get put that'll
get um sent to the legal team um for OCR but it's really just to to show support um UNS Silo the advocacy that's going on um so we're all kind of need together his will cover a lot of things that aren't
necessarily um child specific kind of issues in busing they also talk about contracts they also talk about they they do it's their very they cover all of it electric bus busing Bill of Rights that kind of stuff will also be presented which is not really specific to what we necessarily do but I think it's
important that we're there what time is it I don't know it's virtual though so I think it's at 6 maybe or S maybe at seven yeah Rose I'm sorry we have to go back to the town hall we had this walkthrough scheduled
for next week we need to talk about which day you want to go it was suggested you go before your face it was suggested that we go before fa's checkin with you which would have been Tuesday we can we can do Thursday I I
can't unfortunately I've got an all day meeting like I cannot do Tuesday but I can certainly do Thursday the face checkin is on Wednesday that's what that's fine we can do the check-in without having done the walkth through and if we need to do a second check-in before the meeting we can certainly
schedule another checkin well the purpose of the walkthrough is to make sure we know what learning times is doing and and it's all set up properly we walk through it so Anthony looks like he wants to talk about it uh so learning times is not going to
be at the walkth through uh they already have all the information they need from the last Town Hall cuz nothing has changed uh regarding wifi or any of that thing of that nature so who's going to be at the walk through then just you and
I principal and Rose just us that you were having this meeting at this school right like really active parents of students with disabilities who are begging to be involved I
don't the PA there the the parents group of kids with IEPs the PA everyone wants to help facilitate this and make sure it goes off smoothly and so the reason I volunteered to be at the walkthrough is because my son's at Clinton and I'm the the chair of the parents of you know IEP
students with IEPs group so we're on board to check the sound to check the tech that's why we want to do it so that things are are good because these parents are going to these families are going to show up in person and be there that night and I just don't trust like
the tech we've had major Tech issues in that building but also just like a walkthr just seems like a courtesy for like a Citywide Council representing this many families um and we can have other members of that community at the school that rck for the PA meetings for
the SLT meetings for all of those meetings they can be there we I just have to invite them and know the Day and The Time Mark but because if learning whatever it's called isn't going to be there then we need to have somebody that actually knows Teka Clinton be there so
that would be helpful because so we're not using any of the tech at the school we have a third party company who brings all their own so they do their own technical checks and things of that nature um they never had a hitch with
any technical issues at a town hall let's move on for now what else what else what else do we have on the agenda we need to talk about so Mark um I can be there for the
run through if do we all have to be there or yeah I mean so Maggie you're you're able to do it Tuesday and Rose you're able to go same meeting as Mark on Tuesday all day that it's the rights law conference
I said I could go the following Thursday at I just can't be there till 1:00 I can go on a Monday or Wednesday if it's at 1:00 just not 12:30 I can go any Friday I can I can I sett all this and October 1st I can be there
on all day that day too so yeah I did respond R sha about October 1 we could do it's the Tuesday an Anthony when is learning times going to be available for us to consult with them because we need to have a discussion with learning times learning times is coming on the 25th on your
check-in it's 12: noon on Wednesday the 25th and we had already we had already in our discussion we we had already agreed to that like we discussed it and we discussed the dates so you
know hold on we're we're getting all over the place now I need to ask some very specific questions what exactly is learning time's going to tell us on the 25th that is going to be reflective of the day of the town hall because I don't understand why we're meeting with
learning times on a on a virtual meeting and we're not the purpose of meeting with learning time is to ensure that the hardware is working right and I know you're saying that learning times they've done it in other town halls and what have you okay I hear you but then I don't understand why we're meeting with learning times so learning time even the
day of they don't come with equipment right they come checking the Wii making sure it's strong enough um that's what they do at walkthroughs usually um because they haven't been in the school in this case we have been in the school the Wi-Fi hasn't been updated since the
last Town Hall um so they already know what the Wi-Fi strength is okay she's she is reporting as a parent whose child attends Clinton High School that there are technical issues
is there any way you can place a request with learning times to just double check because you have a parent reporting yeah they already did with the it um that's why it got it took me so long to respond to the first initial email asking about like dates and times uh because I was
waiting for learning times to correspond or talk to theit and then get back to me and just for clarification it may be that I've had audio tech issues at Clinton that I am aware of
but it wasn't when learning times was producing the tech and so there may be audio issues with Clinton's Tech but in this case learning times is coming as a third party providing separate and being
it may work better well we had a good when we did it in February of 23 the Wi-Fi was fine I know they've had other meetings there in the past since then that have been good if I mean if Anthony is saying in learning time has already reviewed it with diit we're gonna have to assume
they know what they're doing I mean I know it's doe so that's a sketchy assumption but we're going to have to go with that and you know if Maggie if you're available and Rose you're available on that Tuesday to do a walk through I mean if if it's just to walk the building I don't know what the value
is to be honest but Rose Maggie you think that's valuable and please by all means do it and and you have my thanks for doing that and Anthony you as well so I think when we just from what I remember when we discussed it at first is it was to do a walkthr because to
make sure that everything was up and running and that everything was going to be okay that was my understanding of it but if that's no longer the purpose then then I don't know then we don't need to do it then and it's the at that meeting then
Anthony we may need longer than a half hour to talk to learning time so is it possible extend that to an hour meeting on on that Wednesday um so I think we're we may need some more time I think we should move on um we need to move on to uh
translation services Rose what what do we need to talk out with translation services help me please I thought Rose was just going to remind or we could do it in email when translation
needs to be in no okay we can move forward what do you want to review ola well let me just recap really quickly because the reason that I remember this being on the agenda is because we wanted to discuss purchasing headphones for for
Council so now they've updated so we don't need it anymore okay all right well we'll follow up with with if someone could follow up with Esther Maggie is is offering to follow up with Esther on on that thank you Maggie all
right um people Transportation y y joint joint me with Cel um so I was in a C cell meeting three weeks ago um the president um came
up and asked if we want to do some joint meeting at some point it's probably more of a special meeting just from timing standpoint of both councils but something to think about is something we need to get back to them now I don't think we should tonight but I just want to put that on our radar and then
hopefully we can talk about that at the October meeting and and interface with them as well all right um next point is meeting with d k r go I raised my hand because I know you're gonna fight with me on this
people Danica I'm sorry Christina team oversees the CSE to my understanding Mark clarified that for me correct me if I'm wrong because my understanding was that super superintendant oversaw the csse offices that's wrong
okay the person in charge of csse is Jessica walstein she is senior executive director of cs's and she works directly I don't know if she works directly but she works for fodi and Hammer okay so I will remove my desire to push
to have Danica join this meeting although I do think at some point she should come to a meeting because if she oversees leadership she oversees People Who oversee Who oversee items that have to
do with our community so I will pivot my ask of what I would like her to talk about but I still want her to come Rose can you talk about the last item on new business or do you want to push that to next time and table it no last rast can you talk about the
last item um on new business please at the last meeting we talked about um the website that you know it expired and we had to have it updated and um Mark volunteered to pay for it and he did but when I went to our
sgo they said that it really should be in writing so they he wanted to know if the council voted on it it wasn't an official vote I'm want to have an official vote tonight I motion to vote to reimburse Mark for the payment to renew our
website I second the motion quick carollyn Castro agree Heather daily agree Mark gavz abstained Lupe Hernandez yes shamine
Keenan yes Sam Reed oh my God Moises rosarios Maggie Sanchez yeah yes and Esther vasis is she
she's think she her line her interpretation line came came down came down it's is not she's not on it yet I think it dropped she can hear us but she there's no interpretation for
her I don't know she said it dropped at her interpreters yes Spanish interpreters are you able to connect to Esther I don't know who's Esther no is the woman you've been interpreting for
all evening yeah but she hasn't speak more I don't know she's she's connect to line can can the Spanish line be shared again uh I'll try to find it but can it be shared again so she can call back
maybe try yeah share in the chat okay all right we've got we've got enough to to vote I have one more item please please don't leave people Rose needs a new
computer can we please do we need to vote on them can we have a vote placed I cannot place the motion people to buy her a new computer I motion that we use our budget
to get our a a new computer I second can I ask that we modify that ask and not to say digital Hardware or whatever to may need more than just a
laptop but before we move on next month's meeting we have to talk about moving funds from some other account to a equipment account right yes okay I would like to amend my initial
motion my motion is to be able to fund and put in our budget for digital devices and items as needed I second all in favor opposed
abstain passes okay and Heather you had one thing I have one more thing so um there's a city council meeting I believe on the 27th or the 28th it's with the education committee and contracts
committee and they're going to talk about busing and transportation um I would like to put a motion um on the table that um me or other council members be um allowed to prepare a testimony uh to give either written or
to show up and give testimony in person at that city council meeting I second that motion all in favor sorry I thought Mark was all in favor all in favor say I any extensions any
oppose any other business Maggie and then Anthony quick comment so um I mentioned it to the council but I wanted to see if we could put it on on the agenda sometime it doesn't have to
be in the next meeting um regarding um the of AI and what the chancellor talked about it's really concerning for me but you know I want to hear what the council has to say about that um again we don't have to do it now but just to put it forward for for the top maybe a topic it
could be a topic or just part of the agenda for business can I can I get a clarifying Point Maggie are you asking that we have a council meeting on AI since doe is now looking toate it more and
more yeah yes absolutely we can we should have somebody that can talk about how AI works and how that would be implemented in an education system um because I I you know it's just like the
chancellor mentioned that there's no policies in place already there's no you know we we don't have anything we don't have anything and writing but but he's making the advisory um so we we would like more information on that and what is it going to look like and and and
because it's looking to the future but we need to know we we need to prepare now and Advocate you know in my opinion against it but one second Heather one second Heather I'm sorry um that is something that we can
put into the calendar meeting but I'm sorry guys I'm tired Anthony had his hand raised so is your questions in relation to that okay I just wanted to make a comment that I think we should ask if we can
nominate somebody to be on that advisory panel with the chancellor he's making an advisory panel and I think somebody should represent our students on that panel and I would recommend pie but you know anyway and to pigy back off that just so
folks know there is um comment and testimony that the state is taking on the safe act bill as well as the child data protection act and those comments
are due by September 30th and just because I have the mic and the time stamp September 30th to October 9th NYC will be holding the burrow wide uh forums regarding the Blue Ribbon
commission recommendations um on Regents so if we can ALS o share I'm asking the council if it's okay if I send that information to Rose and that we disseminate that to our community both about how to submit comments for the saf
act child data protection act as well as the locations and how to register for the zoom forums regarding the Blue Ribbon commissions and Regent exam requirements please do thank you for Lupe and Mark do we need to
do we need to put a vote no I keep asking that for Maggie to be the representative for the advisory Council or can we just appoint her we would have I mean I think we have to vote on that but I think we have to vote first do we want to have representation before we before we
before we move on with that I'm I've already applied and I've already emailed and followed up emailed on the dial uh multilanguage Learners advisory Council and I haven't I haven't received
any response from that so I don't know how okay all right well they are still accepting applications I would just I just want to add advisory advisory committees usually have more
than one council member so you can actually both we can put both of you forward to do it but I do want to get Anthony's question because he's been waiting for a really long time um somebody in the language line saying that she will join the council
with Maggie thank you it's on the record that he didn't give r that the chance didn't get ration out so Anthony just said that there was no rationale given for the no to 90 minutes
but we can ourselves follow up and still you know try to get the 90 minutes so I would encourage us to either organize some sort of email that goes out to ask for that or to just do it if you're a council member if Mark and Carolyn want
some organization around that though I would take that like I would appreciate the the advice but I have a question that doesn't have to do with that so I'll just wait thank you how does everybody feel about the C is that another vote how does the ccsse feel about issuing a
formal letter to the Chancellor's office asking for extended time absolutely let's do it probably heard us and said oh those nagging so in context just so you understand the reason the Chancellor's office asked to
go to six is because he's got a another meeting on his agenda after so it sounds then you should be able to if you were committed from 7 to 8 to us and you're extending an extra half hour then that
is the 90 minutes that you could equate to our I make a motion to send an official letter from this Council to whoever is in charge of of 90 minutes the chancellor of New York City thanks on
letterhead ASAP does anyone second second I second all in favor I I want to be really clear with the language so there's no jump over things
we want to send a letter to the chancellor asking him to extend what is it 6 6:30 to 8:00 pm or 6:00 to 7:30 but we have to be really
works on this in between the meeting and I'm not putting the motion because I can't do that just just again though we H we've already publicized the meeting at 6:30 p.m. start so I hate to move it up when
people are already expecting to start at 6:30 6:30 to 8 makes the most sense logically because we don't want people show up late but we do need a motion so again do we have a motion to send a formal letter to Chancellor and
his office requesting 90 minutes from 6:30 to 8:00 p.m. for the town hall have we have a a motion do we have a second second okay we have a motion we have a second all in favor I
opposed abstain okay the eyes have it thank you everybody all right is there any any other new new business um I would like to request um I know that everyone needs to get out of here um request that we have someone here at
our next meeting that can speak to the um I don't know how you explain it like the school specific enforcement of the UFT and the um New York State education
departments um regulations from the I think it's the chair person regulations from whatever um so the law that is making it a mandatory minimum for sets instruction so we can get some clarity on this so
the the law is clear that you need to have three hours which breaks down to four periods or four sessions a week for most New York City public schools so if you are not currently getting four sessions of sets or don't need four
sessions of sets but need two in math or two in ela you have to do four or the three hours or you don't get it um and so waivers are going out to families to
let go of their the sets on their I so I would love someone to come in here and talk to this and that's why I mentioned the UFT rep I think it's important since it's the UFT that's has this on their website and seems to be enforcing it at some schools where
other schools aren't enforcing it it seems very similar to what we heard tonight about the deadline right um and it not being enforced until this year so I'm seeing some correlation and some odd similarities so can we please reach out
to whoever is the appropriate person I'm not going to even pretend to know who that is to have them come in and maybe speak directly to us about this at the next next meeting if you guys think that's okay sorry I did a bad job of
explaining tamam I think that's a very school specific issue I think that's something we can deal with offline if we think we need a survey to find out there's more issues than just that single school that's fine we can look at a survey but I'm yours is the only
School I've heard of that's got this issue I I haven't heard now if you've heard from other schools that's one thing I think this is something we can deal with on an individual basis I think that it I think that it sets a precedent though so if we're not paying attention
to this happening a selective enforcement of these existing laws it's going to happen at other schools like this is not you know like this has already been discussed at two different C's just within the two last two days cc3 and cc2 it's already in the
superintendent's office it's already you know been asked widely I just think it to think that it's specific to one's School even if it was specific to one's school it sets a precedent that this is what you enforce and it's not okay to enforce it at one school and not all of
them but that's why we need to figure out are they reading the rule correctly and so before we get a whole flow blown meeting we need to figure out if they're enforcing the rule correctly or they're misinterpreting the rule I think they're misinterpreting the law and I think the school's not reading it correctly which
is why we're not hearing it happen all over the place and why the superintendent was questioning that logic I think there's an issue with how they're reading it but we do need to find out to your point we could have somebody interpret it for us but I've read the law and it's
it's very clear and I actually saw that it was updated September 18th 2024 all right well we'll we'll need your help with with getting details cuz I I I don't know where to go but we'll we'll certainly make some calls but we need to get specifics from you again on
that because we need to weed what weed through it to figure out who's responsible anything else or we ready to adjourn we so we got member reimbursements after this please see Rose do we have a motion to adjourn if
there's nothing else I make a motion to adjourn the meeting okay all in favor of adjourning I oppos abstain all right it's unanimous we are adjourned 10:09 thanks everybody have a
great night oh