Speaker 1: All the meeting of the Natick Planning Board to order at 7 0 6 and expect to have, we have three members present. I expect to have a fourth member along with us shortly. And Andy Meyer is present virtually. So with that, just to note, dive right into public speak. Any individual may raise an issue that's not included in the agenda and will be taken under advisement by the board. There'll be no opportunity for debate during this portion of the meeting.
This section of the agenda is limited to 15 minutes and any individual addressing the board during this section of the agenda shall be limited to five minutes. If anyone needs a, a quick refresher on how to participate virtually you can follow the browser that if you go online, look up the agenda and you will see it there on tonight's agenda, as are the opportunities to engage by phone. So we are here, we're starting with,
we have, do we have anybody? Nobody for public speak. Speaker 2: No one's raised their hands. Speaker 1: Alright. I take that as a note. So I will move right into the first item on the agenda. Approval not required, five Lake Lakeshore Road. Speaker 3: Great. Speaker 1: Hello. Speaker 4: Hello again. Nice Speaker 1: To see you. We have to stop meeting like this. Speaker 4: I know, exactly. So the a and r plan, we believe is a relatively simple request. It's the goal of the a and r is to complete a lock consolidation. And in addition to the lot consolidation component, we also
worked closely with Amanda and town council to clean up one of the lots that there was a little bit of title discrepancy that needed to be cleaned up. And so this a and r will also clean up that lot. It's sort of the appendage, I think you can see it on the plan if you've looked at it. And it's shown in red on the a and r plan that's been uploaded to the right there, the leg tail. We've been calling it a tail. Yeah. So that is essentially just cleaning it up in title form. It's been basically part of the town
of Natick for many years. And in our title hunt there was a little bit of discrepancy out there. So this is just cleaning that up and making it clear that it's tab native land. Okay, very good. But the rest, the, the area in blue takes and I, I, I, forgive me, I don't remember how many lots there are that were breaking up this whole sort of aggregate parcel, but it's a lot consolidation to obviously allow the development to occur that we're proposing as part of the special permit. Speaker 1: Terrific. Thank you. Yep. Any questions, comments? I will, I will start with you Alan, just
because you're the one who's here, but, but don't worry Andy, we're coming for you next. So do you have questions or comments on this A and r? Speaker 5: Not yet. I'm still, I taking a look through. So I guess that piece that's Natick the little tail. That kind of a tail. That little tail. It looks like it, it's a butting other town of Natick land as well. That's directly to the, I'd say above it. I guess that would be the West. Okay. Speaker 4: It's part of the Camp Mary Bunker property. Okay.
And it's always been part of Camp Mary Bunker. I think it's just one of those conf you know, sometimes you find little tweaks or issues in the title review. And so this is just cleaning that up and making it clear that this is part of Native Gland. Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah. And I know it's for your own benefit as well, but Speaker 4: It's Right. Speaker 1: It, to me it's just one less court case down the road. Right? Speaker 4: Just be, yeah, exactly. Speaker 5: So I'm, I'm sorry, just because I can't see it. So the road or driveway that goes to Camp Mary Bunker, is that the, the,
the line that is essentially to the right of the tail or is it kind of coming through somewhere else? Because I know that's also needed land below it. Speaker 4: You mean like at the far North Speaker 5: Edge? Yeah, yeah, that far north. Is that actually the driveway that goes near Mary Bunker or, Speaker 4: I actually, I don't, well I Speaker 5: Guess it, I guess maybe my question is, yeah, does the driveway for Mary Bunker cross this tail or not? Speaker 4: I actually don't know. Oh, okay. I'm not sure. 'cause these, you know, these survey plans don't always necessarily show the like actual background of the land. Okay. But I know
nothing we're doing is proposing any sort of like, it's just paper papering the Speaker 5: Mostly I was curious. Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, totally. Speaker 5: And either way I Speaker 4: Should know the answer, but I don't e Speaker 5: Either way. Having this firmly in the possession of town Yes. Is a good idea to have. So, I mean I'm good with that. But Speaker 1: Yeah. Andy, questions or comments and hello, Speaker 6: Hello for a comment. Thank you to Mr. McDowell, our town engineer for his memo dated February 9th, in which he has reviewed this and he has recommended that we endorse the plan.
So that tho those, those reviews are really helpful. So I, in my mind, the expert has weighed in on this and is is recommending me endorse. So that's pretty much always good for me. So I'm, I'm ready to take a motion at, at the end of question time. Speaker 1: Alright, thank you. And I don't suppose we have heard anything from, from Peter or Nancy. Speaker 2: I, I've also emailed him the link just in case he was searching for it. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: And I haven't seen anything back Speaker 1: Then with, without any other ado.
I would entertain a motion to endorse the said a and r. Speaker 5: I'll make a motion to endorse the A and r plan. Speaker 1: And the second Speaker 6: I will second. Okay. Speaker 1: Motion made and seconded. Any questions, comments? All of those in favor by roll call vote and Andy Speaker 6: Meyer. Aye. Speaker 5: Including your aye Speaker 1: Evan's. Aye. Very good. Great. So that is endorsed and I, I think unfortunately we won't be able to take up some of the other elements of Sure. The development because there are not four of us. Would you
Speaker 2: Mind mind if you just tabled it for a few minutes and took the project and then Yeah, Speaker 1: I don't go go anywhere here. Speaker 2: I'm here. Don't leave like kind. I'm happy to, to be here and hopefully we can figure out where Mr. Sson is. Perfect. Speaker 1: I'll hang out. That would be good. And we can take care of other business until then. Speaker 2: No problem. Speaker 1: So, and that takes us all the way down to Strat 19 Strathmore Road. No, Speaker 2: And I just need to promote, Speaker 6: Do you want me to read that notice? Speaker 1: Yes, please. Speaker 6: Okay. Speaker 1: I'm stealing the copy here to read with you Speaker 6: And here we are.
So on Wednesday, February 11th, 2026 at 7:00 PM the planning board will hold a public hearing in the Diot meeting room to review the application of George Richards Esquire regarding the property's 19 Strathmore Road assessor map 24 lot 90 G, the application special permit adult daycare facility and site plan review. The project is reuse of an existing commercial structure for an adult daycare facility, project PB 26 1. A copy of the application can be reviewed in the Community
and Economic Development office and on Nix OpenGov website for order of the native planning board, Terry Evans chair. Speaker 1: Very good. So the public hearing is, is opened. And do we have someone online? Yep. Is that Mr? Yes. Speaker 7: Meeting Speaker 1: Everybody. Yep. Speaker 7: Yes. Can you hear me? Yes, we can. All set? Speaker 1: Yep. Speaker 7: Perfect. Good evening everyone. I'm here on behalf of George Richards who's out of town this evening to step in for him. He's gonna be coming back for the next meeting to go
through the, the plan in in general. And I believe our clients are here and on as well in case there's any further or any questions for them. They can jump in as well as necessary. But like you said, Andy, we are here to apply to change the use of a commercial facility Lo located at 19 Strathmore to from existing office space to a apply for the special department to make an adult daycare facility. And our main, one of our main points of being here today is that there are several requirements that
because we're not changing any of the existing exterior space or anything like that or building structures, we are hoping to get some waivers for some of the requirements of the application process. Speaker 1: Alright, thank you. Sh shall we start then with the requested waivers? Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely. So actually start, sorry, Speaker 1: Go ahead. Start with the quick prey on the project and then we'll move swiftly into the waivers. Speaker 7: Sure, absolutely. So my clients, Speaker 6: Hey Terry, just one thing. If it's a special permit, we need four votes, right?
Speaker 1: Yes, we will. Speaker 6: If if we don't have Doug or Peter, we might have to end up backtracking to get them 'cause I don't think three votes would carry, would it? Speaker 1: Sorry, we can proceed. So they would just need to file the Mullen rule? Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 6: Okay. Speaker 1: Even though they're not here now, they can wa it will be, it will have to be. They have, have, have reviewed it. Speaker 6: Okay. So we can review here it, see
what the waivers are, see what the project is. But if there was an expectation, Speaker 1: Can't, can't vote on anything. Speaker 6: Expectation on voting. Not tonight. I don't think we can vote without our fourth member. Speaker 1: Yeah, we won't, we won't vote tonight. And that was the, the same reason that we had for not going into the, the special permit for two 14 North Main Street. Speaker 6: Got it. This, Speaker 1: This is the, okay. The night where we're talking about lots of different business, none of which we can actually conclude. Speaker 6: Got it. It's productive. Speaker 1: So, alright. Yes. So Sure. Speaker 7: Absolutely. So a little bit
of the details on the project is my clients Max and, and Anna, they're here, they can step in if they'd like as well, but they run an adult daycare already located at 17 Strathmore and they're looking to expand and use 19 Strathmore as, as the same use category for that. They can jump in and explain the business if you'd like a little bit here at Max Andana if you want to. But it's, like I said, it's an adult daycare facility where, Speaker 1: Sorry, you're, you're breaking up, you're, you're whatever, whatever is going on at at your end is completely
breaking up anything you're trying to say. So I apologize but you will need to Speaker 7: Oh geez. Okay. Speaker 1: You just need to re re repeat it and if you see me waving my hands frantically it means that it's not working. So would you repeat what you have? Just Speaker 7: Okay. Not with sometimes. Sure. Speaker 5: The last we heard was that they already operate 17 Strat more. Speaker 7: Yep. And, and that's, that's the basic part. Part of it is that they already own, own and operate the adult daycare located at 17 Strathmore and they're just looking to expand
and use 19th Strathmore for the same purpose. Speaker 1: All right. And why then could you please and Amanda, I don't know how much back and forth you have had with the applicants in terms of understanding the wait waivers that are being proposed Speaker 8: In terms of the waivers that are being proposed. It is, they are requested because they were not gonna be doing any outside external amendments to the property. So it was gonna be basic, maybe some internal renovations, but no site circulation renovations, no real increases to the traffic.
It's just to expand. They're used from 17 to 19 and my understanding is that all of their clients do arrive to the site via passenger van or bus. And so not many of them, if any, arrive in a personal automobile employees do arrive vehicle. Vehicle. It is not today, but maybe in the far future they may look to better connect the two sites together. But as of right now there are no proposed amendments, which is the reason for all those waivers. Speaker 1: Okay. And then it has no additional parking requirements?
Speaker 8: No additional parking requirements 'cause they already have the parking lot for what would be an office use, which I believe the higher use category for off street parking, then the adult daycare and then also it does meet, it's a first floor so there are not access issues with that being, you know, ramps or anything of that nature that probably would need. I think that was it. So really you're focusing more on the use and not as much the site plan because they're not amending the site plan at this time. Okay. Speaker 1: Very good. Thank you.
Members of the board questions or comments? Speaker 5: I'll take a look through some of the stuff right now, but quick question is, how long have you operated the facility at 17 Strathmore? I think you're still muted. I believe Speaker 7: They've had that first 16 years. Speaker 5: Okay. Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember when they first came in. Speaker 5: So my kids all went to next generation, so I think I was kind of familiar with, you know, doing all the drop off pickups right next door to you. And I never really noticed any issues or, you know, problems or backups or a lot of traffic generated by the, by the use
of 17 Strat more occasionally I see a van or whatever, but, so it definitely doesn't seem like a, an intense use at least by my own experience. Although I was dropping off in the morning in the afternoon, not necessarily in the middle of the day, so, Speaker 1: And Okay. And Andy, Speaker 5: Andy you're muted. Speaker 1: Oh, Speaker 6: Thank you. I remember when you guys came in, but I didn't think it was 17 years ago. Speaker 9: It was 2000, yeah, 2010 we started operating. We, I think we worked on the proposals and stuff in 2009 when we purchased the building.
Yeah, it's been a while. Speaker 6: Okay, well congratulations. It sounds like business is good. Thank you. And I agree we certainly haven't heard anything about it, which is generally the sign of a, you know, successful business. And I, I think it's a, I think it is a, a very good use and I think your model of using your own vans is very good. What I was just curious about is it looks like the waivers are for a traffic assessment and then there's a waiver about something about the building, like a building elevation waiver.
So what you're really saying is you'd prefer not to submit an elevation of the building since the building isn't changing and the, the the traffic assessment isn't necessary. 'cause it's essentially the same model. Exactly. And I, I can basically buy that. Are there other waivers that I'm, I I'm just looking at the package. Are there other waivers that I'm missing? Speaker 1: I don't, Speaker 7: There was a, a drainage assessment waiver, at least what I, I have here and then a building commission or determination waiver. Speaker 6: And what do we need the building commissioner to determine? Speaker 8: Oops, sorry. This is Amanda. So the building commissioner determination,
we just did not get the written formal one, but the building commissioner was away when they were filing. So the senior building official made the determination that this was site plan review, special permit. Okay. And I will get Dave to give the a writing written one. So that's on me. Speaker 6: Alright, so we we don't really have to waive that then. Speaker 8: Nope. It was just, since it's part of the submittal, people usually request the waiver Speaker 1: And Speaker 6: I think Okay. And then, Speaker 1: Oh yes, sorry, go ahead. Speaker 6: On the, on on the drainage, what, what kind of waiver are you looking for there? Speaker 1: Oh, the assessment? Speaker 7: Yeah.
The essentially, yes, the drainage assessment for that, since there's gonna be no changes to the, the grading or topography or any exterior changes. Speaker 6: Well the only thing about that is sometimes, and I'm not saying this is a case, but sometimes there are existing problems and this is our chance to address them and have our town engineer review it and correct it. It, that would be a hard one for me to say yes to tonight. 'cause I, I think, I think it's responsible to have our engineer just review it assuming
that there are no problems. It's a quick review, but I think we would miss an opportunity if we didn't just, you know, double check what the, what the current functionality is and make sure that the town engineer's happy with it. Speaker 1: I think that makes a lot of sense. And we have kinda the luxury of, of waiting only in that we, we don't have the four votes necessary to do that, to do that this evening. Speaker 6: So I, I'd like to see if we can make that happen. And my other question is, are there landscaping requirements
when I I, when we have a change of use and it triggers site plan, this is a good time to look at things like, are there parking lot light parking lot lights dangling? Is there a requirement for landscaping that has been ignored for years and years? We're not, we're not fooling ourselves that we're turning this into like a park, but I, this is our one chance that comes up from time to time to make sure that things are looking good, that things are addressed, particularly if there have been any like, historic problems.
So I, I would always like to just double check that any landscaping requirements are being met that there aren't any changes to the lights. But at the same time we don't have lights like shining straight up into the sky. So I, I would just like to have a quick check of those things. It's a little bit like a site checkup and I, I think, I think it's our, it's our, it's our responsibility just to make sure that everything there is in good order. Speaker 1: No, I think that that makes a lot of sense. I, as I'm assuming that we would have heard had there been serious issues, but it is, it's worth because we have the luxury of ironically, of having
until the next meeting to have that kind of validated. I think that Speaker 6: You can't, you can't really tell from the site plan. We don't really have any photos. But you know, this, this is an industrial park, so again, I'm not, I'm not turning this into like, you know, a a park park, but if there are opportunities for landscaping and those things and softening the facade and things like that, I just wanna make sure that it's, it's compliant in that regard as well. Speaker 1: Oh no, of course. And I, I seem to remember, and I may be mixing it with another project in that vicinity
that there were questions about where dumpsters were located, how traffic, we, we always check on how trash removal goes because that's usually, if there's a problem, odds are good that it's somewhere in, in trash disposal. So it may be worth having a quick look just for the same reason that we were looking at other sites site elements to see that the, the trash storage and removal is operating as proposed.
So I, you know, I I hesitate to go more Speaker 5: Question, how are these gonna operate together? I guess since you guys already operate 17 and this will be 19, are people gonna be coming from one building to the other or is it gonna kind of be separate entities under the same name? Just Speaker 9: So we planning it to be kind of, you know, expand to the building, but it has to be because the buildings are not connected, it has to be a separate entity. The clients, the participants wise, you know, we wanna have like a more room, you know, to kind
of move some clients to that new building because, so we won't be too congested, you know, when, you know a certain amount of people come to the center, we want it to be like, you know, more spacious. So obviously there will be some other participants coming in maybe. But I think the way we planning to do it, as you know, it's just basically the same, the same scheme as in 17 and nothing really that would I think change for what we do now. It just, because, you know, there's more need of the service in as you know, even look
with the, with the, with the people that we currently have, we would prefer to have less people in the building so they would kind of go into the 19th Strathmore. Right. And regard regarding, actually I wanna go back to the landscaping. I didn't know whether there's something specifically that you need to check, but if you've seen the 17, we've done, you know, a lot of work, we planted some grass, like trees we did like irrigation. So we want the place to look nice and you know, pretty and flowers, we have flowers around the buildings and we trim the trees
because we don't want any branches falling. So we try to maintain places pretty, pretty well maintained. So I think it's, it's gonna be the same thing. I don't know if there's specific answer you want from, from us, but if you guys, I don't know if you know how this operated, it's gonna be the same thing. Hmm. Speaker 5: It's actually improvement Speaker 9: For, yeah, the building best basically gonna be like, it's gonna be improvement to the building and it's gonna make it easier for us to service, you know, certain amount of clients. Speaker 1: Is that, that's interior improvements.
Speaker 9: We are probably gonna do some co cosmetic for now, but we'll see how things go if we, we decide eventually we'll apply obviously for permitting and stuff, but we don't see anything that we need to do now. 'cause the building is pretty inside. Maybe we'll do like a painting and new floors, stuff like that. Okay. Speaker 1: Because if it is, and I, and I say that o only because to, to get kind of the, the waivers that fall, if nothing is changing on the exterior, then we need to, to do that. And I don't say that painting
or repainting rises to that, to that level, but if it, if it becomes more complex or more extensive, then we do want to check that. I think if what we can do between now and our next meeting, which is on the 25th, we can try to take a look, talk with folks and see what, you know, professional staff here has have observed. If there's anything that causes alarm and I'm not saying there is then we'll,
we'll you'll be hearing from us ahead of the, the meeting on the 25th. Speaker 9: Okay. Speaker 1: So does that sound reasonable? Speaker 9: Yep. Speaker 1: Yeah. And and then ly I apologize we're, we're a little shorthand. Speaker 9: That's all right. We're still halftime on the 25th. Speaker 1: Yep. So Speaker 5: I do you guys, or I, I would say, do you have exter? Will there be any changes I guess as to the exterior lighting? I don't, I don't know. I mean I imagine you guys aren't open particularly late, but I don't know if the lot is lit or anything like that at night.
Speaker 9: I think there's a lighting outside like a nightlights. They, they always, you know, normally in the building, it's not that I went and checked in at night, but we can do that. I think there's a required lighting for night and in our buildings the same. So if there's an issue, it's not a problem we can install. That's not a, you know, big deal. Speaker 5: No, I mean I think a lot of times for a lot of these plants we wanna make sure that we are not having light spilling over to neighbors Oh, property and have you been out there at night to to know if that's happening? And I, no reason why.
I think it'd be kept worse, but I just figured I'd ask you while I have you here. Yeah, Speaker 9: I know. If you look on 17th Strat more, I don't know if you guys remember with the first meetings, we had neighbors complaining that the late shoots right into the yard or something. So we had to, we changed the lighting so it hasn't been an issue ever since. So whatever needs to be done, obviously we'll do, but we can just double check on how the light's set up at night and if it's not bothering anyone. Speaker 1: Okay. That's, yeah, I think that, that you all put up a, or had somebody put up a baffle that acts as a,
a screen from from neighboring properties. Yeah. And then though that tends to be, if there's ever a problem, it tends to be a problem involving light trespass. So I I seem to remember that being taken care of. Yeah. But we'll just double check that and if there's any Yeah, we Speaker 9: Definitely Speaker 1: Want, yeah. Speaker 9: Yeah, we definitely want the neighbors, everybody to be happy 'cause it's the same place we're all gonna be working, operating, and they living and of course we will do whatever it needs, you know, it takes to make them not complain or be happy and not to intervene with they lives.
Speaker 1: Very good. Andy, anything you want to add? Or should we, if not, no, Speaker 6: This, this, this is, I mean, just to an answer your question, like the plan that I have in front of me says that in front of the building there's lawn. Yeah. And it seems like it's a fairly generous amount, you know, so to that's probably appropriate. We just wanna double check like, is it, is it really grass? Is it, is it, you know, just been, you know, tumbleweeds for years and years. So this is our one shot, like I said earlier, just to review it and to see
what it looks like from the exterior. And I think we're both on the same, same page in terms of wanting to have an attractive building that complies with, you know, it's good for your business. Yeah. And it's good for us as a review body. So we, just to double check those few elements would be helpful. Thank you. Okay. Speaker 9: Okay. Skipping company. So we're obviously gonna be getting, getting a contract with them for the same building and as I said, like, like with the putting in greens or flowers or some, some plants that makes it look prettier. So that's a plan. Speaker 1: So. Well, very good and glad, glad to see you're successful and thank you.
You're, you're kind of growing, growing where you started, so that's, Speaker 9: Yeah, after pandemic it's been like very slow, but now it's picking up and there's more, you know, need for the service because I think of pandemic we've seen Yeah. You know, Speaker 1: Yeah. The demand. So. Alright then I will entertain a motion to continue to the 25th. Speaker 5: I'll make a motion to continue this till February 25th. Alright. Speaker 1: And second, thank you a second from Mr. Meyer. All those in favor, roll call vote Speaker 5: Including your aye Meyer. Aye
Speaker 1: Evans. Aye. So that's continued to the 25th and that, thank you. Okay, thank you very much. Speaker 5: Okay, thank you. Thank you have good night. Aye, Speaker 1: Thanks. So that, the only thing we have, we have kind of a few kind of planning board business I wanted to ask and I'm, this is directed to the two other members who are here. I sent something around that C, the CED, that the community economic development team is working on a working group on kind
of re-envisioning the kind of traffic and life on Main Street in Natick. They were asking for volunteers who might want to be a participant in, in this working group. They were particularly interested if any member of the planning board was interested. I know you already have a school in your hands, but I will, I'll just put that out there. Andy, I'm not looking at you, but I'm looking at you. If you're interested, let me know. It, it's something that, it's kind of one of the more productive or positive things trying to,
to kind of see how we want our downtown to operate, to grow and to circulate. So I, I won't hound anybody, but I, I may strong arm someone if you get too close. So anything further before it just seems so strange to be looking to adjourn. Is there anything else, Amanda, that you can, Speaker 8: Well, I guess I'm a little concerned 'cause I've texted Peter and emailed Peter and we haven't gotten any and you've texted him. Speaker 1: Yeah. And it, it, I will, I'll follow up
and see if I can, if I can raise Nancy, Speaker 8: But we have to, either way it's, you could either continue the public hearing or Speaker 1: I Oh, for this? Yes, I would continue. Sorry. Oh, ajour. Speaker 8: I just didn't wanna miss my Speaker 1: Moment. No, no, no, we will. And we would, would urge them to make sure that they watch the, the video so that they can include that as the fourth member. So I'll entertain a motion to, Speaker 8: I guess actually, I guess do, is there anything you wanna do?
Quick updates? Just No, I just thought Speaker 1: If Oh, that's true. 'cause they'll watch it. Speaker 8: Yeah, they Speaker 5: Watch it. We just can't, we still can't vote though. Speaker 1: Yeah. Until they, until they watched it, they camp up. But the watching it will fulfill that Speaker 4: Just because we did make a couple of updates, we've, okay. So I just figured we could share that and I think just might be helpful. Maybe our next meeting could be more efficient, Speaker 1: So Speaker 4: Potentially so nice to see you all again back at it. So I know we have, and do we need to formally open this?
No item or anything. Okay. We're good. All right, roll. It Speaker 1: Rolls off from Speaker 4: The last, all good. Okay, so we did, over the course of the last couple weeks, we've worked through the decision closely with Amanda. I think that's been uploaded and available on the portal included in the most recent update of materials. Can you hear okay? Yep. Speaker 1: No, I'm just sitting there going trash. Speaker 4: Yes. We've included an updated site plan that incorporates a adjustment to the trash and this comes with feedback that thanks to Amanda and thank you for reaching out to the board of health
with feedback from the board of health, which has moved the trash from the bill from that alcove space that was outside but but below the building and sort of tucked away. The comments we heard from the board of health were twofold. One, they, they mentioned that their preferred method for waste management would be to keep the trash outside. And then they also expressed concern about the location we had suggested both for odors emanating from the outdoor trash, just being that they're so close to some of the,
our building's residents. And then they were concerned about the, you know, trucks that would be approaching the enclosure, you know, potentially having an accident and hitting our building. So with that feedback, we, we have, and it's, I dunno if we can zoom in a little bit, it's kind of hard to point from here, but you can see we've now kind of gone back to a more classic trash enclosure footprint and that's a location shown where Amanda's pointing and then we've kind of reoriented the transformer just slightly plan north
to make way for that location. What's not reflected well on this particular plan is the landscaping that will, that is part of our plan around it. So there's screening, you know, the fence adjacent reminder, we have the fence along the property line as well as the fence that will create the enclosure. So we did try to kind of keep it as close to the building as possible, but also tried to work to accommodate the feedback from, from the board of health and make it make it all safe in between. Speaker 1: Thank you. And I have to say a public thank you to
Peter Sson. Yeah. Because his questions and concerns and expression of interest is, is what got us here. I was of course I was surprised and almost relieved hearing the Board of health comments and others and I was thinking that it would've been a shame to, to have missed that opportunity not having gotten their, their take. Yeah, for sure. I did not anticipate it. So,
Speaker 4: No, it's good feedback and I think, you know, it makes sense to us that there's concerns about, you know, having it too close to the building for our resident. You know, it's just kind of one of those, it's a tight location over there. It's a tight site. So I think we've, I think we've come up with a good and reasonable location and we'll adequately screen it. And then I know we're conditioned to ensure that we do other things that we've talked about in prior meetings with pickup and encouraging best practices and new technologies when we can to just sort
of help mitigate for sound and things like that that we've talked about at prior meetings. So that's all included in the decision that's been circulated and I think is available in your packet. Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think I have, I had just a few, I was working on some this afternoon, just a few very minor Sure. Markups. Oh great. So I have to, I have to get those through, but there's nothing substantial. Sure. Speaker 5: So the nearest house to the new dumpster location is all the way over at the corner of Lake Shore and That's Speaker 4: Right. Speaker 5: Okay. So that's really guess immediately I think of dumpster, you get close to somebody's Sure.
Property. Yep. It looks like their house is pretty far away from that. Speaker 4: That's right. We tried to be thoughtful about, you know, just positioning it such that it had the least amount of impact. But again, I think the positive is that it's well screened and there's a fence next to a fence. So I think there's a lot of screening happening in between, so I don't think there'll be much visibility to it. Speaker 1: Good. I think that's great to hear. Speaker 4: And the other thing we included is the views. So I think upon reflection and thinking through the last discussion as it relates
to the mechanical rooftop units, we, I worked closely with our architect to just, you know, think about technology that we have at our fingertips and use some 3D views to kind of explain this a little better. So what is included now is this page that Amanda has pulled up thank you for that is just showing the, the, the orange circles is showing the view sheds that we've studied. So you kind of have to refer back to this key plan as you page through the views. But what we did here is we said, okay, we know today
we have a really good sense of what we think the mechanical rooftop plan will look like, but we haven't finished our design. So we don't know for sure. We won't know for sure until we submit for a building permit, but we do know what the units will be and generally where we think they will be. So this is our conceptual layout plan and we dropped them into our, you know, fancy 3D models and then we've shown what the views are from the various locations. So you have closer views. This is one of the closer ones we've stepped it back to, you know, our adjacent some of the closest neighbors.
So you can see what it looks and feels like as you're standing close to the building. And then also from the property line and, and even beyond the property line into some of the abutting neighbors. And what we're suggesting in our condition is that, you know, when we reach our building permit moment, we will come back with these views updated with the final layout and submit them to Amanda and just seek her review and approval to be in com in conformance with the, the goal of this plan that's gonna be part of the record. So that was our thought was just a, a clean way
and make sort of helps simplify some of the language and the condition if that felt acceptable to the board. Speaker 1: So that's so that the condition is the receipt of the building permit. Speaker 4: Exactly. So before we're issued a building permit, we would be required to go through this step, bring back the con you know, updated these views with the updated plan that includes the updated mechanical plan and make sure that we are conforming with the goal and the objective, which is to adequately screen and, and keep those units kind of out
of view from these vantage points. Speaker 1: And is that in, I know we have now the, the, the draft decision, is that language now in there? Speaker 4: It is now in there. Okay. So it matches up to this proposal. I think we just felt that the views, you know, pictures a thousand words. Right. It just kind of helps tell the story. I think, you know, I, as we were discussing how do we tell, how do we write this out? We're like, let's just see if we can look at it in the model in the 3D view and just describe it better. So that was the goal for the last two weeks, so.
Speaker 1: Excellent. That's, that's terrific. It's Speaker 4: Few updates Yes. Speaker 1: Aesthetic health wise. Speaker 4: Yep. Speaker 1: It's kind of really coming together very nicely. That's Speaker 4: Good. So I think those are the main updates other than just like a few other wordsmithing and cleanup items in the decision. So Yeah. Speaker 8: And those documents are in your packets? Yes. So we would just need to, on the decision update the site plan to reflect the new date. Those new sheets have a, a February 11th date. Yep. Not the February 10th date. So we would just make sure that, that Speaker 4: We made one last adjustment to the trash today.
Speaker 1: Okay, good. And then so we can wrap it up on the, on the 25th. Not today, but I'm very confident that we will, that we can take Speaker 4: Him. No problem. I personally may have a conflict, but we will figure that out later. So just in case it's a different face here from our team. Just as a heads up, Speaker 8: You gonna say, Jack, Speaker 4: I, I wish Speaker 1: What? Charming, charming his way through. Speaker 8: What's that? Speaker 1: I said charming his way. Yeah, Speaker 4: Exactly. Speaker 5: I know you've been in contact with a lot of the neighbors. I think quite a bit. I would like it if that neighbor
right at the corner of Lakeshore Sure. 27 Sure. If they have a copy of the new dumpster location. Sure. I just don't want them to Speaker 1: Understood, you Speaker 5: Know, later on during construction feel like they were blindsided because they had Speaker 4: Seen Right. 'cause of a change. No surprise. Right. 'cause it was a different way before. Yep. Perfectly. Makes sense to me. So we can, we can do that between now and our next Speaker 1: Weeks discussion hopefully. Speaker 5: And thank you very much for the screening for these planes. I think these are very helpful. Speaker 4: Oh good. Great. I'm glad. That's a Speaker 1: Better story. There are times where you, you say, oh technology's overrated.
It's wonderful when it comes to 3D modeling. Yes, it really is. Speaker 4: Yes. No, and they and TAT does a nice job so might as well show it. Speaker 1: Very good. So I'll seek a motion to continue, Speaker 5: We'll make a motion to continue till the 25th February 25th. Second. Speaker 1: Alright, motion made and seconded. All of those in favor Speaker 5: Who? Aye. Meyer. Speaker 1: Aye. Evans. Aye. So we will, great. I was gonna say pick this up, but I think we can, I'm hopefully hopeful Speaker 4: We can wrap. We'll be really close. Thank you so much. I appreciate all the feedback and the process and everything in between
Speaker 1: And it is good to work with Speaker 4: You again. Oh, always. Same to you. Thank you. Okay, Speaker 1: Thank you. And and now we have, we haven't really, we tremendously forward because we have too much. Well we did get the a and r Speaker 8: Done. You got the a and r done so and then they can bring it for you to endorse at the next meeting. Oh, okay. Which is, yeah, we don't want you to bring Mylar the night of in case there's any like minor tweaks. So Yeah. We'll just Speaker 4: Because that Kathy tonight, so Speaker 8: Yeah, no, she knows not to bring it tonight. Okay. Yeah, you never bring it the night of because tweaks.
Speaker 1: Alright, thank you. Thank you. I will entertain a motion to adjourn. Speaker 5: Oh, make a motion to adjourn the meeting. Second. Speaker 1: Motion made and seconded. All those in favor Speaker 5: Include your aye. My aye Speaker 1: Evans. Aye. Good night and we'll see everybody on the 25th. Speaker 8: What time do you have Speaker 1: At.