Do we need to do that Nicole or you got that? We have a quorum. We have a quorum. Okay. Next item is approval of the minutes. I move to approve the minutes dated March 11th, 2025.
Second. Made and seconded to approve the minutes. Any other discussion on that? All in favor of the motion signify by saying I. I. I. Oppose. Same sign. Motion carried. New business. First
item. Section two, wards and precincts. No, that's from the minute. That's from the Oh, sorry. Let me get back to the agenda. Okay. on to old business. Three one would be uh duties and powers of the
mayor. Commission President, commissioners. Um this one after doing some some some word smithing and working with the attorneys. Um it's what we decided to do was take
out um the motion for the mayor's power to veto and write in as fully set forth in section 71. So then those sections are um or the mayor's powers are explicitly
spelled out in that one section instead of conflicting um or not being complete in section 28. So, I didn't go to section 71. So, does the council have the authority to override a veto? Um, by four out of five or by a
unf. All right. Yep. As I read section 71 though, it does only pertain the the mayor's veto only pertains to expenditure of funds, licenses, and permits. So, right. Yep. Not all-encompassing. We want to leave it that way.
Robert, you got any advice for us on that one? Members of the commission, the language that you see in strikeout in section 28 is essentially duplicated in section 71. Um, so we're not making any substantive
changes to what was in the charter. uh we're just simply consolidating the section that addressed the mayor's veto authority in section 71 only and in section 28 just sending readers to that section instead of having the same
content in two places. Um that's the mechanics of this amendment. Obviously, if the commission thinks that the veto authority should be broader or narrower than stated in section 71, uh that's a valid question for the charter commission, but that was not what we
were attempting to accomplish with this amendment. So, what are the areas again? Um expenditure of funds, issuance of licenses, and issuance of permits. the the mayor can veto those motions but not others.
Well, this this this section 28 says that the mayor shall have the power to veto all ordinances and resolutions enacted or adopted by the city as fully set forth in 71. You're saying 71 is what restricts? Correct. Yeah. So, so 71 and
even 28 prior was just um all motions uh and resolutions um involving expenditure of public funds or granting of licenses or permits. So, we took all that out and section 71 says
the same thing. Did our mayor currently didn't look at this and was okay with it? because we're not shrinking their power or her power, the mayor's power in any way, shape, or form. It's status quo. Okay. Any other discussion?
I'll offer a motion to approve the draft charter amendment in section 28. Second. Motion made and seconded to approve the changes in section 28. Any further discussion? All in favor of the motion
signify by saying I. I. Post same sign. In motion carried on to section 60, special meetings. All right. Um section 60 was more language cleanup um than anything. So we're removing the word members and changing that to the word
counselors. So three counselors um can request a special meeting and then um counselors uh if the mayor doesn't or doesn't act then a member of the council can request or sign for the special meeting. I'll offer a motion to approve the draft
charter amendment to section 60. Second. Motion made seconded to approve changes to section 60 special meetings. Any other discussion? I do have a question. Um the the second time the strikeout is
is mentioned. Um it says the if the mayor refuses to act upon such request then upon a call of the counselors themselves. How many counselors? One, two, three. Three. It says three previous to that. But does is is three
clear. We can take Yeah. Or do we need to add another three down below on the count? I I read it to be the three. I mean, you need the three to start with to have the authority. So, if we're going to go on and say how we're going to schedule it,
it would seem like it would need I think we're good. Robert, do you have any concerns with that one? Should we change it to the three counselors or is the counselors implying the three from the beginning? Well, I believe that the certainly the intent with the language
was that the second reference to the counselors was in the same sentence intended to be limited to the three referenced before, but if anyone read this and was unclear about that, I think adding three the second time would be uh a worthy clarification. Okay. So I would
offer an amendment to the motion to add three just before counselors the second time in that paragraph. Second. Okay. Motion made and seconded to approve section 60 special meetings with the addition of stating the three
counselors in the uh second mention. Does that sound good? Sounds good to me. All right. Any other discussion? All in favor signify by saying I. I. Post same sign. Motion carried. Uh section 66, procedure on
ordinances. Yeah. So, this one um again was more language cleanup um and kind of clarifying um because we don't technically have a business license in the city, but businesses get licenses. Um and so, um talking with the attorney,
we're looking at just taking out um the word business. So, anyone that applies for a new license um from the city or renewal thereof and then instead of using email electronic notification? No. Okay. Any other I'd offer a motion
to approve the draft charter amendment to section 66. Second. Motion made and seconded to approve the changes to section 66. Any other discussion? All in favor of the motion signify by saying I. I. Both same sign.
Motion carried. Section 87 police department. Right. Um so this one was kind of a fun tricky one. um you know went to um lab far and hood's labor uh attorney and
upon coming back you know really looking at the police commission as being more of an advisory body um than you know having this final say um in in the hiring and firing still be part of that
process be that recommending body um but so that's why um they took out provided however the removal shall be subject to confirmation by a majority vote of the police commission, disciplinary action or other than removal. So, they'll just
be part of that process, hear those and advise um myself or whoever the future city manager is on what action should be taken and the city manager would um act accordingly. Uh and then part of that I know um Commissioner Margraph brought up
the state statute um and hold that up. It is in section uh 419 uh 0.01 under establishment. Um any such city may wish to avail itself of the provisions of the of establishing a police commission um
shall do so by ordinance expressly accepting all those provisions. And our ordinance doesn't accept these. So we're exempt for lack of a better term what the state statute lays out. It looks grammatically like if I
end the sentence with contractual and other legal requirements and I think the semicolon goes and then the next word would be shall be determined and implemented by the chief of police. When you read that whole sentence together, starting with the beginning, I'm not
sure that the second part makes sense. Yeah, Mr. Chair, I have an explanation for that. Yeah. Uh the words disciplinary action in your packet are shown in strikeout and the intent was not that those two words would be stricken out. Those would
remain. Makes sense. Okay. Okay. So this the disciplinary action words are not stried. They they should not be stricken out. They should have remained. And then that sentence would then read disciplinary action shall be determined and
implemented by the chief of police and or city manager. That makes sense. Yes, it does. Y good catch. Good catch. Yes. Okay. With that uh
change, is there a motion to approve? I move to approve the draft charter amendment to section 87 with including disciplinary action. Second. Motion made seconded to approve section 87
uh without striking disciplinary action. Any other discussion? All in favor say I. I post same sign. Motion carried. Uh section 88 police commission
again. All right, commissioners. This is kind of following that same suit um of them being again more of an advisory board. Um, so getting rid of any complaint made to the city manager or chief of police relative to misconduct of a police officer shall be filed with
the commission for its consideration uh before considering appointments um and promotions. Uh and so since again we're we're kind of for lack of a better term streamlining that process um and the commission will still be part
of the hiring and promotion process. Um, striking this out just makes it a little bit um falls in line with more of that advisory role. Didn't the mayor used to be part of the actual commission? Yeah, she is
part of the commission. Yes, that's not what it says. Says police commission shall consist of three members. One of them shall be elected chair. It doesn't say the because I thought when we rewarded this a few years ago, we said the mayor was was one of the three.
Wonder if that needs to be added or put back in. Is the mayor a fourth person or part of the three? I'm trying to remember. I can't remember either. Um I will see who's on the police
commission right now. Yeah. Where's the mayor? Call her up. He's at a police commission meeting. No, I think it is three three citizens because right now it's Adam Tols,
um John Gog and someone else in the mayor, but I I'll verify that. So, it used to be the mayor was the only one who could hire or fire police officers. That's why we dramatically changed that a number of years ago going, "Oo, I don't know if we like that because they don't have that
background." And um so do we want more clarity in this? So should it be four members, one of whom shall be the mayor? Not sure why. Why do we want Why does
the mayor have to be is there a reason? I maybe I'm just going back to the old thought of that the the mayor had a lot more authority over the police department and now they don't maybe Well, the mayor they Yeah, the mayor appoints the
commission, but they would not not necessarily ever have to attend a meeting. Are we okay with that? Nobody can remember, but I'm guessing that perhaps that was she the mayor was taken out like a decision had been made once to remove the mayor. If you're
saying we all have a recollection of a time when if it's not in there, it seems to me that we went from dictatorship with a police commission by the mayor to we got to back this off. Yeah, we all agreed that that was we agreed with that. couldn't could be a real
nightmare. So So in other words, the idea of sitting here today and amending and adding something in like that would probably be something we'd want to put some thought into because there's we should know the history and decide, you know, why do we have the mayor in or not? If it's not there and it had been discussed at length before, maybe it's
because that was decided and that was a I'm okay. I'm okay with it. I would just Well, what we could could do is approve what we've got presented and then I assume we could research that at a future meeting. I'm not standing strong
on the fact that the mayor has to be a member. Okay. So, I'm I'm I'm okay with leaving it. All right. So, I'd offer the motion to approve the draft charter amendment to section 88. I'll second. Motion made and seconded to
approve section 88 police commission. Uh any other discussion? All in favor say I. I. Oppos. Same sign. Motion carried. Section 101 library board. All
right. This is this is a very simple change. Um looking at moving the library board from 9 to seven members. Um both the library director and the mayor are okay with um pairing that down to seven. Um, no library board member will be kicked off as they term out. We'll just
slim that number down to seven. Perfect. We had discussion I know in the past about 975. Um, so the P um not you see the um park and wise how many dropped how
many do they have now? Seven. Seven. I know there was a talk about not getting enough volunteers and Um, so could it be five? I think five with the library board. I would like seven on this one. I think that's a good number
because they are kind of their own entity on an island. And I think having seven members gives a little more perspective on a lot of the stuff cuz none of their stuff really comes to city council, you know, and so I think having seven members from the public be part of
that board. Uh, and speaking with the library director, um, April, she was fine with going down. Um, she thinks that's a good number, uh, as well. And then, so we're not having problem recruiting. And no, I'm fine with it. I'll offer a motion to um, approve this
one and section 101. Second. Motion made and seconded to approve the change from 9 to 7 in section 101 library board. Any other discussion? All in favor of the motion signify by saying I. I. Post same sign.
Motion carried. Section 180 public nuisances. This one was a very simple one. Just adding the title public nuisance. Can't we add more teeth? Trying out some stuff this year. We'll
see. I know. I know. Okay. So, all the only thing we changed is add public. Yeah. public because it didn't have it didn't have a title. Oh, okay. Very good. No, just section 180. Yep. Oh, really?
Okay. I'll offer a motion to uh approve the draft uh change to section 180. Second. Motion being seconded to approve the change to section 180. Any other discussion? All in favor of the motion
signify by saying I. I. Same sign. Motion carried. Section 221, duties of the city manager. All right. Um, so this one, we're looking at removing department head positions um and then just only
having the utility director um as the only um approval or position that the public utilities commission uh would have approval of. And kind of the reasoning behind this um when you look at the utilities um you
know again the commissioners don't necessarily have the expertise um in the different departments and looking at the utility director. a lot of them. How we hire uh in in the city is primarily people that have worked there um get
promoted through the ranks. Uh and then allowing the department head to really or the utility director to really get the team that they want in there. Um whether through internal promotions or external. Uh and then it really falls on the utility director and the public
utility commission has the ability to fire that director um at any point if stuff that's the kind of check and balance. You get to choose your team but you're at the the women mercy of of the utility commission. Heads then selected by the utility
director or is it in concert with you or how does that work? Yeah, so they do go through um an interview an interview process. Um, so it' be myself, the HR director, um, utility director. Um, we
did for a while have um, uh, a utility commission, um, why am I blinking? Um, personnel committee. Um, and so we everyone kind of chime in on that. Uh, but I think moving forward it'll be kind of the same
three, myself, HR director and um and the utility director and maybe the assistant or someone in there from that department to kind of see what that that fit would be. Wasn't there something in the minutes too about what needing to clarify who
the department heads are at? Um, since we're getting rid of department heads and it's only the utility director that are there, um, there wouldn't need there wouldn't need to be clarification. Um kind of the same thing we had at the city. Who are the real department heads and who who considered the real
department heads? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yep. Okay. Anything else on that? I'll offer a motion to approve the draft charter amendment to section two 221. Second. Motion made and seconded to
approve the section 221 changes duty of city manager. Any other discussion? All in favor of the motion signify by saying I. I. Same sign. Motion carried. Uh item four, new
business. Schedule next meeting. Um do we need one? Yeah. Yeah, it would be sometime in January. So next year I if nothing else, you know, if no one has anything else, any items that need to be brought up now, um you know, next meeting will be sometime
in in January. Um Lisa will send out the the doodle poll again and we can convene again in January. So these will go um changes will go in front of the council then um probably on the 20th, but I'll work with Robert. So either the last meeting
in May or first meeting in June. Okay. Any other new business? Any announcements? And motion to adjurnn. So moved. Second. Motion made and seconded
to adjurnn. All in favor say I. I. Sign. Motion carried. We're adjourned. Yes. Be on that mic by six o'clock.