Okay. So, this is our uh capital planning committee meeting on the 25th of February, 2026. Um we'll open the meeting and we have a quorum. So, we've
established a quorum and um we have minutes from our last meeting. So, we had a chance to take a look at them. If are there any questions, comments, corrections?
If not, >> I move we accept the minutes as written. >> Second. >> Okay. All those in favor? I >> Okay. Okay. So last time we had um
we fire chief and the police chief and DPW with us and we didn't have the rating sheets. So we have all of the rating sheets. Um Tracy, does everyone have the the entire
package of requests or is that sent out to everyone? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Yes. Okay. So, we can we can write those one of the things we want to put on the record and let people know is um we sent
the fire chief uh the police chief, I'm sorry, representing the uh harbor master back with a request to redo some of the things. Uh, one was the
trailer because, uh, we're looking at trailers for a lot that we have and we're looking at trailers that were made out of shipping containers, considerably less expensive, very durable, >> and so she's going to look at that.
Also, um, they were going to replace three of the posts at the town dock. Mhm. >> Um we looked at the description of what they were the paperwork we had which
does not match the request we had. Um, and because all of the pilings are of the same age, we said, "Please go back and look at replacing all of them if we're going to come in
and do it once rather than doing it once and coming back and doing it again next year or the year after. We're going for that whole piece." >> Okay. So uh >> so you'd prefer to see it as a single project replacing all ponds?
>> We wanted to talk about that as it may be uh really cost effective to do it that way rather than to do it peacemail. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Um we went through the the requests by
the fire chief. Uh he has some very healthy requests. >> Always their apparatus is very expensive. Yes. And but but the thing that uh is what I'm concerned with not concerned
with but what we have to talk about I think in this group is the fact that COA is looking for a building. >> Fire department's looking for a building. Mhm. >> We need to settle on whether we are
going to have our own town hall or not. That's three buildings. >> Newbury ele not Newbury Elementary. New elementary is actually okay. Um but uh >> Triton >> well >> Newbury Elementary we did a study and
that has that's facing some significant repairs as well. >> Yeah. But it's repairs. >> But it's repairs. Yes. >> Right. Um, in fact, I I'm going to arrange go over there arranged with with also with uh >> James >> James to go over and review his
stuff. And then finally, we have Whittier. So, we have a lot of building projects that we have to bring forward to say, okay, where are these going to go? Are they going to be combined? Um we need to have a a group
probably request from the select people persons to to look at that. >> Okay. >> Going forward not we'll look at what's there but so
that being said just just to bring you up to date as to where we are. Um Jonathan, yes, we have some interesting things here from you. >> Yes, we have a number.
>> Yes, you do. >> What's the title of it? Just so I can search for or is there a request? >> Um yeah, >> it 2027-1. >> Okay. >> So, he's really good keeping. It's on
page six. >> Oh, okay. That makes it easy. >> Thank you. >> No problem. >> All right. Okay. So there is actually a minor paperwork um collision that I've noted that the
prior year capital um request has an IT 2027-1 and also one was submitted this year. Uh could you let me know which one you've got in your paperwork? >> I've got the one that is the ERP
financial software system. >> Yes. So, um, ERP is technical shorthand. It's an acronym standing for enterprise retail product. There's a couple other flavors of that acronym, but they all mean the same thing. A financial
software package, a form of a database that is used to track and perform all of the typical expectations of a retail account management or similar system. They're just very generically referred to this way because regardless of
whether you're actually performing a retail procedure or more of a municipal financial procedure, it's still the same underlying technology concept. >> So basically we're looking at a front end database and a report generator.
>> Yes. >> Okay. >> Yep. that this would be uh a or rather is this is a proposal request for the upgrade of the current system which is called softright. The provider of this product um has been purchased and then
repurchased and over that time frame they have stated that they would be suns setting or retiring the technology and no longer supporting it with service agents. And since the second purchase,
they have rolled back that statement. Uh, as a result, the technology is in sort of a limbo position. The software package itself is almost 10 years old according to the notes that I have, probably longer. I have it down as 2013,
which coincides with the purchase date of the original version, but it's unclear if the town purchased a further upgrade later on or received an upgrade. Some vendors will do these upgrades without cost. Some will require a cost
package. Hence the mild confusion. Um ultimately the current generation of technology does not appear to be one that the vendor intends to produce a new version of to use current generation technologies and underlying hardware. So
there are expected to be limits of how far into the future we can carry this software. There will come a point where we can no longer run it on the latest and most secure versions of operating systems. We move those versions forward in time as
they become available to keep our servers secure. This is called a legacy software problem >> where our core software becomes so old that we can no longer move our cyber security in step with the best practices of
everyone else. And so this creates a vulnerability. Um, currently there's an annual fee of $30,000 that is the basis for the request. Assuming that that amount or based on um casual research, less would
be the cost of replacing the system. >> $30,000 a onetime charge or did you say annual? >> Yeah, >> currently that's paid annually. From the incidental research I've done so far, it may be as low as half that for the one-time purchase, but all of the
vendors I've seen have call us for more details when you ask start asking questions about the annual fees and their service contracts. That's also pretty typical for vendors of this category. Whenever you have a
database system that is supported by engineers from a third party, they will have almost menu like pricing for their support models where you can choose things like 247 support or
9 to5 in the business week support or pay as you require service models. They vary. So they usually have you mix. >> And are you proposing replacing soft with the new version of software from the same vendor or are you looking at
>> other options? >> We'll look through multiple options from multiple vendors, communicate with other towns to find their experiences and recommendations to try to find the best fit software and also the best priced software. So the $30,000 is sort of a placeholder
to I mean >> we don't have a price at this point, right? >> Not precisely. No, we need more quoting information for a precision price. >> Okay. So that's where the unknown price comes in. >> Yep. >> Yeah. We've been fortunate to have
softright as an option in the past because the annual fees have been significantly lower than the next product which seems to be a lot of larger municipalities use. It's called Munis. Um very very
sophisticated product but much more than we really need. Um and so this this product was perfect but now they're you know whether or not they are an ongoing endeavor we don't
>> it'll be significant research. Um in any case as uh Tracy is describing a lot of the current generation programs are built and targeted as a one-sizefits-all. The vendors are really trying to reduce the
complexity of their teams. They want to make one product that does all of the things for everyone and thus do not have to carry multiple teams with multiple dedicated support lines. But uh the
challenge is that because it's one sizefits-all, it is too sophisticated. It's a case of a sledgehammer when a screwdriver is called for. Mhm. >> So, we'll be in a position of needing a lot of finely tuned research to locate
the best fit product to the town of Newbury's needs rather than accepting a software package priced and equally complex as what say Boston or even Newport would use. >> So, who's doing the search? >> It as well as the IT support vendors.
And because this system touches on so many departments, I'll be needing to draw in on the experiences of all the department heads involved. I'll need all of their feedback to make sure we get something appropriate that does the job correctly.
>> It's primarily finance. So, it's um the town accountants's office, the treasur collector's office, the assessor's office. Okay. Any other questions? Um just um
I don't know what what action are we being asked for since we don't have a price. >> Um the proposal is marked at 30,000, but it sounds like the the committee's preference is for a more um
concrete pricing. Is that correct? Well, it it would help because whatever the price is um you know, we look at the need and the finance committee is going to look at the price more than we are. >> Okay. >> So, um
>> I think this might be best served if I take it back to the to the workbench and uh generate more precise quoting and pricing then. >> Is is that sound accurate? I that would be good if if that is feasible within within the constraints
of the time that you have and we have uh to get this ready for the annual time meeting. >> I can do that. I'll go ahead and do that. >> Okay. And staying with you, let's go to
uh 20272-2, which is uh the wiring infrastructure. And before we get going on this one, Jonathan, um, one of the things that
we saw when, uh, Chief Davis was here was that, uh, he was going to be looking for a new building. And so when I look at rewiring a building and then looking
at redoing a building in the not too distant future, I don't know how distant it would be. I wonder about is this a project that really requires uh immediiacy. So actually uh
um on that exact topic, I had spoken with the fire chief and with Tracy uh once I became aware that there were considerations about the building going on at 3 Morgan Avenue. And until those considerations are complete, I would ask
that this item be disregarded. It's uh uh not an efficient use of uh funding to modify the existing wiring when the building itself may undergo renovation.
>> If renovation is chosen, then when the walls are open, that would be the time to pursue rewiring rather than cutting them open, making a change, and spending time there only to do it again. >> Yep. Um, so I would I would absolutely say this could be cancelled, ignored,
etc. pending however the fire department decides. Did >> Did you say we're looking at 2027-2? >> Yeah, I have. >> Yes, cuz I'm looking at uh >> library printer. >> Yep. That's the the paper um conflict. I do have a second 2027-1 that we may also
see. I do apologize. This is a result of an error in my paperwork. um on that second 20 27-2 I guess you'd call it 2027-2-2 um for the library
uh is a printer library printer upgrade/repp replacements uh the town library has a collection of different printers and copers and the most aged of that is the
primary public printer copier. This is the unit that um residents can perform pay by print uh fax scan etc on. Um I believe actually fax is a different device. >> That machine is aging um significantly.
It will soon become a cyber security problem due to its age. Printing equipment of this size contains a small server in it to operate all of the systems and printer vendor companies only release firmware upgrades for a number of years. Y
>> once those firmware upgrades cease, you can no longer assume the security of the system at all. Um there have also been function problems with the device related to age parts wearing out. Uh
while this does list multiple where it says printer upgrades replacements, I was able to replace uh one of the printers there with the set used for the town's new contract for printers last
year. So they really only need the main printer copier rather. I apologize. The vendors do make a difference. Printers are >> fit to a small team. Copers are the full size, half your height >> mini pages units.
>> Yep. >> Okay. So, we're looking main copier only. >> Yep. Uh and that $7,200 is the price of the equivalent unit that was purchased last year for the town uh being used in
I believe the Council on Aging currently. And did you say that this printer is a paid that users pay for their use? >> If residents choose to have um papers printed there, they do pay the staff. I
believe they pay uh 5 cents a sheet. Currently, the library performs this transaction on a cash only basis. Okay. All right. So, now we're going to 7-3
and that is >> this one may also be two documents. >> Security system. Uh I have security system and fire department mobile PC replaced the fire department mobile PC. Which way how do you want to go through this?
>> Let's start with the the mobile PCs and then move on to security system. >> Okay. >> In the case of the fire department mobile PCs um that is canceled on analysis. It was determined that those mobile PCs actually fall under the opice of the fire department directly rather
than the typical general computing responsibility of it. It's specialty hardware to their space. So replacement and acquisition will have to come from the fire department for that equipment. >> So not from you. >> That's correct. Yes. I caught up with the fire chief about that so that he is
aware. >> Okay. Very good. and then 2027-3-3. >> Sure. Um, so the security systems life cycle replacement. This is uh more of two causes than one. The description
here is because the form was filled before we expanded into the additional suite office. Mhm. >> Um the internet I should say not internet, the camera security system, the closed circuit TV system and related
components of the security system used here at town hall is aging. It's nearing its end of life date. Um it has already had some adjustments made to it to ensure that it remains secure because of
those uh end of life issues. And as a result, as a result, we have some reduced functions, though they were not functions we used. Um, this is typical for CCTV systems. They fail or age out in stages.
>> You slowly reduce the number of functions you have for usually firmware or related security problems until eventually equipment begins to fail. Um, the system is original to when Town Hall came here. Uh
in addition to those age of service concerns, we have the new town hall suite opened right next door and this has changed the layout of desks and added an additional office suite that needs to be secured. So, the town, the
IT department is seeking $9,000 based on vendor quoting uh that we've done a little price research with to replace the system and upgrade it into um a modern one with complete coverage.
>> When you say that you added on the new space, what from this security system is missing in that new space? In the new space, we would need some door sensors as well as cameras. >> And this is a vendor price.
>> Yeah, this is based on vendor pricing from, I believe, two sources. I have to pull my notes to be sure. >> Okay. >> John, I had a question that I forgot to ask you when we had gone over this earlier. Um, will that be connected in
with dispatch? At one point it was, but then it was not the system. >> That's part of the build profile I have for replacing the system. >> Okay. >> In that and or or expanding or repairing whatever direction we choose to go in,
we will repair that disconnection. >> Okay. >> That is driven partly by the security alterations made to the network in the last few years due to new cyber security threats. >> Okay. Thank you. camera and access control for three
Morgan Avenue. That's the IT 2027-4. Um, that one will also have a duplicate kit. Um, the uh other 2027-4 is marked as moving peg specialty equipment. Um, starting with the fire
department camera access system marked for three Morgan A. As with modifying the wiring there, I'd also like to call this one um canceled or deferred depending on the fire department's decision for their building. Just like the wiring, it would be frivolous
expenditure. >> Okay. And then it 2022 27-4-4 second four. >> Uh yes, moving peg specialty equipment to the municipal offices. Um
now in in this document it is marked as source of funding PEG proceeds. That marking predates the change of the PEG accounts as of the last town meeting um which is a paper error on my part. In
this case it would be free cash or similar funding source. Um, the PEG system relies on a suite of specialty equipment. The majority of that equipment doesn't really care where it's placed. It is relying on one device
with a cable that has to be provided from the service provider, in this case Comcast. Uh, it's called a fiber engineering line. And in order to place a new fiber engineering line, the uh service provider will have to dedicate a
new line here at 12 Kentway and run the line into the building. The number requested is based on their quoting um for what it would cost to install it. because the fiber can only be provided
from Comcast being that it's engineering line, we are locked into that purchase from that vendor. >> Uh the purpose in this is to remove the peg equipment which is very specialized
um from the 25 high road basement which has moisture, mold, air contaminant and so forth. concerns that ultimately is not good for electronics of this category to live with over here into the
IT office at 12 count. Um, this is a maintenance and equipment lifespan preservation move. >> Okay. >> What's the price of that? >> Uh, on the request we have $10,000.
>> Okay. And it says here the impact on operating expenses is $11,000 a year savings. >> Yes. Currently, >> where's the savings come from? >> So currently, in order to make the combined systems work, allowing live
broadcast for the 12way location, for example, select board meetings over to the 12 or the 25, apologies, high road station where we can then upload material via the engineering fiber. We have to maintain a pair of internet
connections, one here and one on the other end at 25 Hy Road. The combined cost of those is $800 a month. So in the space of one year approximately, we will save the cost of making this change and
for each year thereafter we will have eliminated the cost of that internet connection entirely. >> Excellent. Okay. Okay. And finally, I think
it 2027-5, which is the fire department's physical security system. And is this one? Oh, 44 central. Okay. >> Yes. >> Um, that one is also a one that we can
call cancelled. the uh landlord of the 44 central location. >> Yep. >> Um to my knowledge, unrequested, upgraded and installed their own security system that meets the needs of the town's security needs in that
location and has kindly um provided access to it in the space. So, no expenditures needed there. >> All right. Is there anything else? Just double check here. >> That appears to be all items. Yes. All
set. Jonathan, >> thank you so much. Thank you for your time. >> Okay. I guess I guess it's you, Cindy. It's me. >> How is everybody? Good. >> Okay. Thank you.
So, I believe the two requests that I have are for a new building. >> Yes. >> And a new car. >> Okay. So, let's let's talk just a uh few minutes about the new building because
um we are beset with requests for new buildings. Yes. And and I I actually went through your package which was a nicely done piece. >> Thank you, Damon. >> Not too surprised. Um,
and it looks like this might be something that we would go to the town and to the select board and say we have a lot of building projects that are coming in. We
need to look at the best way of doing them that is going to work for the people who need the space and the town. Mhm. >> And so I will write to the select board to request
being on the agenda for an upcoming meeting to explore that with all of the things that we have coming up. You the fire department, town hall, schools, on and on and on.
>> Yes. So um we will we will do that and and I know that you don't have any details for me as far as as where uh it might go was a a very nice piece and thank you very much for that.
>> Sure. We spent quite a bit of time as a group. We had an ad hoc committee comprised of um Damon is Damon Jesperson is the chair of the council on aging. John Ferrara is a member of the Council on Aging and then two staff members, myself and assistant director Kathy
Seremba. So, we discussed many town-owned properties um whether it's land or an actual building and came up with a final idea of there is property next to the library that we feel would be an appropriate setting for our
population. So, that's how we came up with that location. We had scored many different items, building size, what we felt we Kathy and I and um another co-orker of ours at the Council on Aging had come up with space needs that we felt we would
need. Um not just for what we have now, but to grow the program. Uh that's always our goal is to keep growing. Um but we came up with um a matrix and Damon helped us with the scoring of that matrix and parking and building size um
access to sewer or septic or you know whatever all those utilities things like that. So that's how we came up with that and then Damon put that report together. We did present it to the select board. We also held an open meeting the end of January to open it up to the public. um
had many people come of questions. Uh Damon and the members of the select board were there to answer some questions. I think it was fruitful for us to do that. >> Well attended. >> It was um we had both people in person
and uh come in on Zoom. So it was good. Uh, next steps I I think too for for our part would be to hopefully have the select board put on the uh town meeting warrant an article for
funding a what I call a feasibility study. >> So that's what we're we're hoping would be the next >> conceptual design. >> Yep. getting through to that. And you know, it wasn't mentioned, but that report, the work that was done on that report by this ad hoc committee, they're
they're very humble, but that saved the town about 50,000 between 30 and $50,000 to to hire someone to come in and do that for us. So, it was it was very well done. >> So, that's where we are. >> Okay. Okay.
>> So for for our part then I will write get on the agenda for the select board and and present to them. >> Great. >> Okay. And so you need a car. >> How can I help you?
>> Let me let me sort of state my case for the car. So we do have a beautiful new van. >> Um >> I'm familiar with >> Yes. And we are very pleased with that. Um as you are probably aware, Newbury is not uh a fixed bus route for MEVA. Uh
they do offer um a a mini mea option which is like a handicap accessible van that is available to people. Obviously we have our van. I have a limited budget for my van hours. We are also part of the Northern Essex Elder Transport program. I don't know if you're familiar
with that is a um volunteer driving program which will have volunteer drivers take seniors. I think there's 11 communities in the Northern Essex Elder Transport program. The volunteers take people to medical appointments
when either we can't we don't have the van available, we don't have a neat driver, there's always some kind of day or time that something doesn't mix or whatnot. We are looking to have another vehicle available that either our
current van driver or any three of the staff members that are there full-time could be able to take a senior say to a medical appointment or if someone needs to just go pick up their prescriptions or whatever whatever their you know we've had people even take neat to uh we
had when I started there was a woman who was visiting her husband at a nursing home. he was on hospice and neat now there's such a it's so tight that they really can't even afford to do that they're really focused on medical appointments so even doing something as
simple as that getting someone to visit a loved one if it's during the time that we're here we would love to be able to have another option I can't put someone in my car we don't do that um just for liability sake I would do it but if we could have another vehicle option even
if it's also the van is out shopping and someone calls and says, "My my ride to my medical appointment canceled. Can you help help me get there?" I do have some funding to get people a taxi. Doesn't work for everybody. Not everyone feels comfortable getting in a taxi. That is funding I have through donations.
>> Um, which will it's dwindling, so it will go away at some point. But, um, >> that is my main purpose is to be able to offer just one more form of transportation. Transportation is one of the biggest things that we do downstairs at the COA. So just give us one more option.
>> Sorry interrupt you. I was curious how often this scenario happens. >> So right now not that often because we're pretty clear with people that we, you know, we're limited with what we can offer. But um it's just like with the van, if you have it available, more
people tend to take advantage of it. So um I'm not looking for the flashiest vehicle. I'm just looking for something small that I could take one maybe two people at a time. Even if we had if our van driver is on vacation, that is um it's a pretty big vehicle. None of the
staff are comfortable driving that vehicle. So, if our van driver is unavailable and I have someone who wants to go grocery shopping, one of us could just jump in a car and take someone grocery shopping and we'd be fine with that. Anyone who goes on the van has to be able to independently get in and off out of the vehicle. So, it would be the
same situation here. We would not be physically transferring anybody. It's not, you know, it's not under the perview of the COA to do something like that. So, >> and would you be fine with a used option? Like, it doesn't have to be a new. >> Yeah. >> So, any exploration? >> I will take Well, I will take whatever
what you know just to get us another transportation option. Yeah, it it sounds like for one or two people that a minivan because they're easier to get in and out of than a sedan. >> I hadn't thought of a minivan, but yeah,
I I think a sedan would be too low, an SUV would be too high. I We need that like thing right in the middle. >> Yep. >> You know, that would be easy for people to get in and out of. >> The Honda CRV, the HRV, the the Ram. >> So, the HRV was on my list. I had I I picked like kind of I don't I don't I'm
not a car person. So, um you know, like a crossover type thing that that in between. >> Yep. >> You know, is what I'm is what I was looking for. >> It'd be the perfect vehicle, >> right? >> And certified use would be the way to go because that way you still have warranty
on it and you get it. you know, it's it's the least cost per hour you run >> is is certified used. >> My other thought is if we had one person going grocery shopping, it would be more
economical to take a smaller vehicle. I would I would, you know, want to have the vehicle wrapped so it says Newbury Council on Aging, you know, kind of similar to what we have on the van. It's a it's a billboard for us. >> Yep. Um, but even if I had one person go grocery shopping, instead of the van
driver taking the whole big van out, >> she could just take the smaller car. >> Well, the fuel is >> would be cheaper as well. >> Another question. >> How far do you go with these trips? >> So, the van I believe in our policy we
had a I think it's a 50 mile radius. I believe it's 50 miles. But I will tell you uh with the neat program um so they are going into Boston regularly. We have there's many seniors in this
town who have medical appointments in Boston. Um and we have many neat drivers who are willing to do it. Um but we would we would certainly go into Boston too. It would be great, you know, just to go to Market Basket or to Anna Jake or whatnot, but
>> some people are going to Burlington, some people are going to >> we have a couple people going to Beverly and again Boston. So, we would certainly two of us are comfortable driving into Boston, so that wouldn't be a problem. >> I was just looking at whether electric
or hybrid would be >> a a good solution. I was going to ask ask if there was access to solar panels anywhere like on town property because that could make >> that's a that's a different long-term plan that >> I won't I won't poke the bear. I was
just curious >> for electric car. >> Yep. I mean I've been I've been running an electric car for now I've got about 40,000 miles on it. It is a delight. >> I love my electric car. >> So
>> can you drive into Boston and back? No problem. >> Yeah, >> I can drive to Conway and back. No problem. >> Then I'm in. >> You play like 250. >> But you can't do it twice in one day. >> So that would be my only And I'm not saying that's a regular occurrence. >> Yeah.
>> But I mean >> I I hate to say no to someone is my is my >> You probably have about 250 miles >> a day before you would need a charge on it. >> Yeah. What about a hybrid? >> A hybrid is unlimited. >> Yeah. gas and electric.
>> So I personally I'd feel more comfortable with >> the hybrid >> that >> Yep. Okay. >> They are a little bit more expensive to repair. That's what I keep in mind. >> More expensive, cheaper to run. >> It's awesome.
>> That kind of thing. But anyway, that that's a decision that's down the road from Yep. from this. >> Other questions, thoughts? um any that uh
might be available for other funding whether they're grants or >> I can always look into that. Um I know that there's grant funding for uh buses, vans like what we have but I can look and see if an actual you know other vehicle I will work on that.
>> Okay. We did submit um I I submitted to um Senator Tara's office. They requested a listing of of items that you know we may >> they seek funding on our behalf in an outside section of the governor's budget
and I did put that in there. >> Okay. Thanks. So you're welcome. >> Other questions? Not from me. >> Yeah. Yeah. We have we have solar on our roof and I have 40,000 miles. The cost of running that
fueling the vehicle so far is $2.38. >> Can't beat that. I can't buy a gallon of gas for that. So, >> so it's uh yeah, it's performed >> really nicely. So, okay. And um as I
say, I'll I'll be talking to the select board and >> we appreciate it. We are we are certainly happy where we are, but we would love to have a little bit more space. >> Well, it's you're coming to the end of u a lease, right? >> Uh coming to the end of grant funding and then to the end of the lease. So,
yeah, it's been nice to have the ARPA money. But >> when is your lease up? >> May I think it's May 17th, 16th, something like that, of next year. Got >> okay. >> Thank you very much. Thank you.
>> You have anything for us today? >> No. Was very informative. I >> was great. I'm glad I came. >> Well, good. Good. Well, always happy to have it. Anybody wants to wander in?
>> It's so rare that we have right people other than the >> Marshall. Believe me, I understand that it's so rare that we have people at select meetings as well. >> Yep. >> So, okay. You know, it's it's um one of the things that I've been just um trying
to work on is to create more enthusiasm for people to come in and not re not only rely on the people that represent them, but to rely on their own ears and eyes themselves. >> Yep. Well, thank you so much for coming. >> Oh, thank you.
>> All right. Is there anything else that we need to cover today? filling out. >> Well, we've got forms. >> We've got forms to fill out, which what I'm going to suggest is that we could take those forms with us, fill them out
at home and and let's schedule another meeting and um >> and we'll see if um Chief Fischer can join us for that meeting with any updates. >> I'd like to get Chief Fischer to join
us. I'd like to have uh fire chief join us. Um I think we're all done with James. >> Okay. >> Did he need to get an update on the um the soft rate system? Like didn't he
need to shore up that 30k? Is he going to give us something more concrete? Perhaps some quotes that can you want him to come back? We can certainly have him come back. I think that that would be really beneficial >> if he could just give us like a few and honestly,
>> not that he has to, but if if we know how much like mutest pricing is, so we have some sort of baseline. Yeah, >> that would be helpful. So, >> okay. >> But not required. Yeah, because we've got we've got a bunch of things that are um God only knows when we're going to need
them that would have been mentioned certainly by James um and the information system. Okay. All right. So, um, two weeks seems to be a pretty good
pro. Does that work? >> Um, yes. Wednesday the 11th. >> Yes. >> Three. I'm put it in my calendar. It makes me work for me. Okay. 3:00.
>> 3:00 is wonderful. If that's okay for >> Should we shut off the >> Oh, sure. >> Well, we we have to make a motion to adjurnn first. >> So move. Second. >> All those in favor? What? I