All right. So, team, we're it's it's 6:02. Why don't we I'll call this meeting to order. Okay. Why don't you let everybody in there? >> Okay. Good evening. My name is Bob Connors. It is now 6:02 p.m. and I'd
like to call the November 4th meeting of New Conservation to order. Mason, can you please read the preamble to the remote open meeting law and take a roll call? >> As a preliminary matter, this is Mason Farer, conservation agent, the Newbury Conservation Commission. Please permit permit me to confirm that all members
are present and can hear me. Members, when I call your name, please respond in the affirmative. Mary Rimmer, >> yes. >> Mick Brown, >> yes. >> Harry Trout, >> yes. >> Woody Knight, >> yes. >> Bob Connors, >> yes. >> Frank Wetenamp,
>> Nope. and David Clifford. Good evening. This open meeting of the Newbury Conservation Commission is being conducted remotely consistent with Governor Baker's executive order of March 12th, 2020. Due to the current state of emergency in the Commonwealth in order to mitigate the transmission of the CO 19 virus, we have been advised and directed by the Commonwealth to
suspend public gatherings and as such the governor's order suspends suspends the requirement of the open meeting law to have all meetings in a publicly accessible physical location. Further, all members of public bodies are allowed and encouraged to participate remotely. Ensuring public access does not ensure
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and committee members have spoken, the chair will afford public comment as follows. The chair will first seek questions through the chat function. When participants are using this function, please list your name, address, and then your question. The chair will then seek questions from the public who wish to speak. They'll be asked to identify their names, addresses, and question. Once the chair
has a list of all public com commentators, they'll call on each by name and afford three minutes for any comments. Finally, each vote taken in this meeting will be conducted by roll call vote. >> Okay. Thank you, Mason. Uh first, I'd like to welcome Dave Clifford to the commission. He was appointed by the
select board on October 28th. Dave is a Pllem Island resident. And uh welcome, Dave. >> Thank you, Bob. Sorry I was a little late. That was uh probably not a good first day at work, so I'm sorry I was a couple minutes late. >> No, you're you're you were fine, Dave.
Okay. Uh meeting minutes review. The uh 10:28 meeting was just last week. Uh those meeting minutes aren't available. We will be looking at those on our December 2nd meeting. Upcoming meeting dates, just a reminder, the commission will only be meeting once a month in
December and January. The December meeting is Janu is December 2nd. The January meeting is January 6th. Okay. We have no request for certificate of compliances tonight. So, first order
of business, a request for a determination of applicability. 280 High Road. Applicant is submitting an RDA for replacement of a rubble foundation in the buffet zone. Mason, can you give us an update on this one? I know we talked about this. >> Yep. So, a couple board members and I uh
were able to do a sitewalk here on Monday. Um, and where we left off with the applicant is he's going to be requesting a continuence to to the December 2nd meeting. Um, and he's going to be talking with his builder um to kind of see how feasible uh raising up the shed is. Um, so it's pretty old and
the foundation is, you know, crumbling and they're really close to the resource areas. Um, so they're going to determine whether or not raising it and pouring a foundation is feasible or if it's going to be, you know, a complete raise and rebuild of the structure. >> Okay. As this isn't a a public hearing
matter, uh there's no no requirement for a actual vote. So Mason, if you could just put this on the December 2nd meeting, unless anyone wants to discuss those that are at the site meeting, if you want to discuss. >> No, no, Bob. I think it's um you know we
we just discussed because we didn't we weren't able to determine he didn't know at the time whether there was going to be excavation needed to a new foundation or whether he could just elevate it uh so >> we suggested that until he had that information um
>> he wouldn't know what kind of filing to make so to table it for now. >> Okay. >> Yep. >> All right. So Mason, if you could just put that on the December 2nd check in with them beforehand that would be great. Okay. Next uh next order of business is a request for a
determination of applicability. 20 Jackson way. Applicant is submitting an RDA for the refreshing of a garble driveway and repairs to an existing shed. Mason, can you give us an overview on this and recommendation if you have? >> Uh so the applicant's looking to pretty
much just refresh and and top dress uh the existing gravel driveway and then make some uh repairs to the existing shed on site. Um, a couple of the board members may have gone here. We did a site visit at 18 Jackson Way um for the patio replacement. So, we may be uh, you
know, familiar with the site. Um, I know the applicant has a presentation um, that she is going to share. So, I will hand it off to her. >> Can't actually share my screen. Oh, wait. Did you just give me access? Okay. All right. >> Should be good. Angela, if you could
just give us your name and address and then make your presentation, that'd be great. >> Okay. Hi, Angela Anderson. My address is 20 Jackson Way. I'm gonna try to get this window shared.
Please tell me that you can see that. Perfect. >> Okay. Excellent. Okay. Um, this is my second time in front of the board. I came for an RDA a year or so ago um for some other like landscaping. Um, so here's just the same introduction I gave
last time. I hope you can see everything. Gosh, tell me if you need me to make it bigger. >> No, that's fine. They're doing great. >> Okay. Okay. We're homeowners um on Plum Island since 2021. Big fan of um the refuge here and nature in general. Just
say that as a preface. Obviously, we care about um maintaining the property in the dune. Um topics for today. I will show you our plot plan just for context of where the driveway and shed are. Um, and then I'll show you some pictures
along with that. Okay, so here's our plot plan. Um, just highlighting in green here where the existing shed and the existing gravel driveway are. Um, the rest of the driveway was is asphalt and was previously paved and it's not in scope
of my request. So the driveway itself um just a portion of it I just mentioned it's it's surfaced with rough gravel and over the years and especially through winter and
wind and water just stone gets compacted and washed away. So I would like to request permission to just top it off and um level it out in places where that um that runoff has happened. So there's a couple pictures there. Um the one on
the top left is from when we bought the place and you could just see there's um vegetation like weeds growing in. Um and then I would also like to just get permission to make repairs to the shed.
Um I the door won't close anymore. So I think I need to deal with that. Um and I think it's going to need some shoring up and straightening up just to make sure that it stays standing. Um, and I'll work with the building department on any
additional approvals or permits that we might need to do that. I think it might need a roof and a floor um that's just become rotted and critters are under there. So, that's pretty much the extent of my request. I do have additional photos if that's of interest of the same
area. >> So, Angela, a couple of quick questions and thank you for the presentation, you know, very well done. So, you want to you want to repair your shed, but you you're not seeking to expand it outward in any way. >> Correct. Yeah.
>> And it has a wood floor now that you want to either repair or replace depending on the extent of the rod. >> Yeah, that's it pretty much. >> Okay, >> got it. I may want to move the door to the backside just because I think that I
can't I can't get enough clearance to close it where it currently is. Yeah. And on the driveway, no, you're not looking to expand the driveway layout at all. You just want to refresh it with a similar material. And you What
are you thinking? Just a inch and a half stone or what are you what are you thinking for a material? >> Um I think it's currently 3/4. Okay. >> So I could double check that. Um yeah, I just want to top off whatever is there. Or if you recommend that I put an inch
and a half, I could do that. I'm really just looking to like level out the area. >> It just these are usually our usual questions and >> uh in inch 3/4 stone. >> Yeah, I think that's what it is.
>> I don't have a problem with it. There's another real like they call it sight pack, which is more stone dust and very fine stone and it and it packs like concrete. We don't have that. That's not what's there currently at least. >> Okay. All right. Well, why don't I stop
there and open this up for questions to the members. Mary, questions for Angela. >> Um, yeah, thank you, Angela, for the presentation. Very clear. I don't have any issues with the driveway that um shed repairs, I think, um, within the same footprint. I don't have a problem
with that at all. Normally with new sheds, we'd like to see them elevated one foot above grade. um where this is not a new shed, you know, that's not necessary. Although, if you're making significant repairs and you're doing redoing the floor and you're able
to elevate it, that would be great. Um but okay, >> only comments. >> Okay. >> Okay. Thanks. >> Thank Thank you, Mary Woody. Any questions for Angela on this particular uh request? >> Um thank you for your presentation. The
pictures were very helpful. Um, I don't have any specific questions actually, just uh, they've kind of already been covered with the refreshment of the driveway with no larger footprint in the shed as well. So, >> okay. Thank you, Whitty. >> Yep. Thanks,
>> Mick. Any questions for Angela on her proposed project? >> I think uh, between you, you know, you guys covered most of them uh, just with the you mentioned the flooring. Angela, by the way, great great presentation. Thank you. Um,
>> we very rarely get those, Angela. So that's right. So excited. >> Felt like I was at work, you know, engineering. >> Um, >> so you have an existing is it like a a a slatboard floor or what's in there for a
floor now you're going to replace? >> I think it's just a piece of plywood. So to Mary's point and maybe this is the question back to you all like if I am able to elevate it. I don't actually know what would be entailed in that and would I need to come back and talk to you about that?
>> I don't know, Mary or Bob, you >> No, not you wouldn't. >> Yeah, I think if you're if you're not increasing the, you know, the impervious area or adding impervious and >> there's still room to make it bigger, but I wouldn't anyway.
>> Yeah. And you're staying within the same footprint of the shed. No, I don't think that's um Okay. You know, that would >> Okay. And also with with the driveway um with the gravel edition, you're just going to you're going to plan to top dress basically. You're not adding any
like weed barrier or anything like that. >> No, I I just want to um go on top of where it already is. But in places where it's sort of starting to like curve and dip down, I I I want to just add a little bit in those places so that it's
more level. the guy that parks there. It just, you know, I don't want him to get out and then like wind up that he's like so far above his >> above the ground when he steps out of his car kind of thing. >> So, as you look at the garage or as you look at the shed, it looks like it slopes off a little bit to the left.
>> Yeah, exactly. >> Yeah. Did you have any plans to put in any like timbers or any anything to keep product from moving down that way? Um, I didn't, but if you recommend that I put some kind of like um edging there to try
to keep some of the gravel in, I can absolutely. I I don't I Yeah, if if that's like sort of in scope to like try to contain it. Um, I could definitely do that. >> Yeah, I think it would only be necessary if you already have an existing issue where it's you've got material moving
down the slope or something like that. It doesn't sound like that. >> I think it just happens naturally. I think it happens just naturally over time. Um, but I don't know. I don't I don't think it's really going that far. Uh, it's just >> Yeah, I don't know. >> I don't think it would it change the
RDA. I don't know, Bob or Mary committee thinks, but it might be might be helpful to not >> the kind of the the loose stone material from moving down that slope. >> Yeah. I mean, I I think Nick that Mick
Angela should reach out to to the agent if >> Okay. Like every project, sometimes you things go smoothly. Sometimes you discover new things. >> Yeah. >> I think if you reach out to Mason, Mason can then decide if it's minor in nature
and he can handle administratively or if it has to go back to us. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Yeah. That was kind of my intent. More thought like as you get into the project, if you find you need >> Yeah. Yeah. >> some type of retaining, you know, like a 4x4 timber or something. >> Yeah. Like just dig like basically like stake a 4x4 in just so it stays. Okay.
That's doable. >> Yeah, might help save on your having to add to it in the future, too. >> Thank you. Yeah, it would actually might actually help keep it flat, too. Thank you. Okay, >> thanks. That's all I have, Bob. >> Okay. Thank Thank you, Mick. Harry, any questions for Angela on her project?
>> Um, no specific questions. I I think Mick and and and Mary did a great job in in in asking uh more detail. Angela, thank you very much for your presentation. I thought it was well uh documented. the pictures. Like Bob says, we rarely get something very formal. Um,
so my understanding is you're not increasing the footprint. You're not increasing the the the footprint of the driveway. Correct. >> Correct. Yeah. 100%. >> And I'm I'm fine. I'm fine with it, Bob. >> Okay. Thank you, Harry. Hey, Dave, welcome. Uh, you you've heard the
presentation. Do you have any questions for for Angela on this project? >> I don't have any questions, but I'm I'm like really impressed. She's raised the bar. I wasn't expecting something like that as a uh as a presentation. So, that's great. And it gives me an idea of what the things that we're talking
about. So, thank you, Angela. I have some questions about the one foot uh raising one foot off the ground ideally on a on a shed. But I I'll maybe I'll talk to you about that, Bob, on a on a side. >> Yeah. Or or Mason Mason can give you
some updated. I I think Mary Mary's point is is we we have sheds all over the place and sometimes people want to add a shed or uh doesn't require a permit sometimes from the building department. What we like to do is have
it elevated up, you know, minimum on an 8 inch block, but but it's a case byase basis. >> Sure. >> We don't change we we don't change the paracity uh you know of the the soil. But again, every every every presentation is unique in it into
itself. >> Sure. No. So, thank you, Angela, and uh thank you, Bob. >> Okay. Thank you, Dave. I don't have any further questions. Mason, are there any raised hands from the public at this time? >> Uh, yep, one hand. >> Okay.
Yeah, please give us your name and address and then uh ask your question. You're you're >> Hello. Can you hear me? >> Yes, I can. >> Okay. Well, I definitely agree everyone. Um, the presentation was very well
organized and I have two questions. >> Could you do me a favor? Could you give us your name and address? >> Oh, I'm so sorry. Yes. Diana Mey. Yes. Okay. I've met most of you. I live at 18 Jackson Way. >> Um, and it's nice to see many of you
again. Thank you. Um I have two questions that I would like to propose uh to get more clarification on. Uh the pro presentation and the PowerPoint was well done. Uh the images are very zoomed in specifically to the shed. My concern
is that within less than a foot um is my property. Um and right where the shed is there's a big pine tree with shallow roots that kind of overarches onto my property. Um there's a beach fence that I had put in um while quite a while back
um and with the previous owner and um I actually went in a foot from their property just to give them a little bit more um wiggle room with their tenants parking. Um, so the question I would have is, and perhaps it belongs to the
building inspector, but with revisions to the shed or equipment that might be brought in to work on the shed andor any structural changes, I'm wondering how that would impact um the close proximity
to my property. >> One, and then two, what equipment, etc. um how would they work within that very tiny space that's not necessarily reflect is not reflected in the images that were drawn for the PowerPoint. So
that was one of the two questions and just quickly the other is um part of the images showed uh gravel that had been put on the property before um Angela had purchased the land and the property um
by the previous owner. um they spilled onto my land when they did that. And in doing that, thank you. Um if you continue going down to other images, um you'll see there's a marker where it's
which is the orange marker. That's when the property line ends and the rest is um my property. There's parking spaces that I do use at the top of the hill also. That's all my property. Um although there is an easement to the property behind which is 20 Jackson
which Angela um and Mike own. Um so I'm wondering how you would be discerning that and you know um just for clarification as well. Um I know that there's a lot of big vehicles that do go up to this
property. Um and the easement has been dug up by many multiple trucks and things like that. So I'm just curious to see how this process would unfold given the tight quarters for the space and those two concerns. Hopefully that makes sense.
>> Yeah. No, it it does Diana. So the the proposal before us, whatever decision we make is limited to the property of 20 Jackson >> Jackson Way. And it might be recommended
uh in a neighborly way that the property lines be clearly identified >> or or you reach out you you work together on >> it. If you have if you're parking up in that area, does the whole area need to be refreshed? And
>> if it does and it's not on 20 Jackson Way, then >> whatever property it's on would have to come back in as well. >> Sure. I do know that Angela chose to use older images. They are pretty clearly delineated. If um I had to hire um a
surveyor last year and some more pronounced visual boundaries have been added for the past year. They're not reflected in any of the images, but it's a pretty tight space that where their property ends. And then the rest of it
is um um land that I use and also you know u an easement of course to the property. So I'm just trying to understand how that might unfold um in terms of um those are older images I had to paint.
>> This one's from last week. This picture right here is from last week. >> Right. But it cuts off completely the my property. >> Yeah. I I Diana sure Diana the the scope of the work that we're considering is limited to the property at 20 Jackson Way.
>> Uh and right >> we we would certainly expect >> you know the parties to stay within their only allowed to do the work in the area that they have shown and is before us. So >> right so all this work would not
encroach in any way on my property. And how about >> we're not giving Yeah, we're not giving permission to do anything, >> right? >> Other than refresh the driveway on their property >> and to repair the shed floor, which sounds like an interior. >> Mhm. >> Interior.
>> The roof. >> The roof, too. I would like Yeah, I think it needs a new roof, but >> Okay. Okay. So, replacing say for example then the floor just for clarification where it's a budding um a tree, a pine tree with shallow roots. I'm just wondering what equipment might
be used for something like that. And um >> it sounds like this is this is you know just carpentry work and not heavy equipment work. They're not >> there won't be any shed or do anything like that. So >> okay so just a matter of boards and
putting jurisdictional for us. >> Okay. Yeah. No and I wondered you know when you mentioned the building inspector or that there might be a separate process for that. >> I will talk to them. I'm fairly certain that a shed under 200 square feet doesn't require a permit, but I will of
course call >> I don't think it does. Yeah. Okay. Well, again, just the concern for the proximity to the tree that's right there. Yeah. You know, sensitive to that. >> I would make a suggestion that prior to work starting the two years chat and
have an understanding of what what's expected from both parties. >> Yeah, absolutely. Um, and I will take all the recommendations here to um, potentially put some edging to keep the stone in and obviously the work will be entirely on our side and our lot. Yeah.
>> Okay. Yeah. The shed's not really like totally abuing the property line. So, we have enough room. >> Diana, anything else before we move on? >> No, but thank you, Bob. Appreciate it. Thank you. >> Good to see you. Yep. Thank you. >> Okay. Are there any any other raised hands from the public? Mason,
>> seeing none. Okay. Do any members have a request for a site visit or additional information? Okay. Hearing none, I will entertain a motion to issue a negative finding on 20 Jackson way. >> So moved. >> Second.
>> Who was that? Who was the second? Was that Woody? >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. >> It's Woody. It's always >> Yeah. Don't >> Don't screw me up, guys. I'm getting old. Uh, okay. Uh, roll call vote. All in favor? >> Uh, Mary?
>> Yes. And and just so you understand, Diana, negative means good for you, but that that means you don't need to do any further, >> right? >> Uh, filing. So, uh, yes, I vote in favor. >> Okay. Thank you, Mary. Uh, Woody, >> yes.
>> Mick, I >> Dave, >> yes. >> And Bob Konos, yes. Thank you, Angela. >> Thank you all so much. Really appreciate it. >> Thanks. >> Thanks, Mason. >> Good luck. >> Okay. Next matter is another uh RDA request for determination of
applicability for Basin Front Drive. Applicant is submitting an RDA for the construction of a new shed and associated mitigation planting. Mason, can you give us an overview on this one and a recommendation if you have one? >> Yep. Uh so this is a shed proposal in
the backyard where it's um existing uh grass right now. I have some pictures I can share after um but I'll pull up the um site plan first. Um so it's a 10 x 16 shed and then they're proposing um
two uh excuse me 193 square feet um of mitigation planting on either side of the house. >> Everyone see that? Yeah, it's loading in. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, if you can zoom in on that a little bit. And
the shed is in the the rear left corner. Is that the proposed location? >> Yep. Back left corner here. And then the mitigation planting areas are going to be on the back side of the driveway here and then along their walkway. >> Okay. What's the square footage of the shed? >> Uh 10 x 16.
>> Okay. So, 160. >> Yep. and then proposing uh 193 for their mitigation. >> Okay. So 160. So to Mary's point, uh what are they presenting as far as is this going to be elevated on blocks or what?
>> So yeah, so that that wasn't included in the plan, but I had talked with the applicant um and if he's here, I think he he can explain kind of their their plan for elevating the structure. >> Okay. Is the applicant present? >> Uh yes, I am. >> Yeah. Yeah, if you could give us your
your name and address and then uh make your presentation. Welcome. >> Uh Thomas Young for Basin Front Drive. And um right now the plan is to put the shed up on Diamond Pierce. Um I had talked to Mason and he seemed to he
thought it was two feet off the grade. If I can go one foot off the grade, I'd be thrilled. Um but yes, that's the plan is to take and lift that off the ground. >> Okay. Now, so there's no poured concrete. You're >> no poured concrete.
>> Are you >> Deon Pierce framed out and built on top of that? >> Okay. All right. Why don't I open this up to questions from the members? And and I'm sorry, what was your first name again? >> Thomas or Tom.
>> Okay. Thank you, Tom. Mary, questions for Tom on his submitt. >> Um, yeah. B, could you uh scroll out a little bit? Uh, zoom out. Is this What's the address on it? 42nd Street. >> Four basin. >> It's four basin front.
>> Four basin front. Okay. Is this Is this in flood zone? Do we know? Does it say on this plan anywhere? >> The shed is actually not in a flood zone. >> Okay. >> The majority of the house is, but the shed is not. >> Okay. And then is this is there grass, beach grass or something in the area
where the shed is proposed? >> I can. >> No, it's all it's a lawn. >> Oh, it's a lawn. Okay. Yeah, >> I can pull up the uh the page. I think that as long as it's um you know it's elevated a minimum of 12 inches and diamond peers are great. >> Yeah. >> The mitigation area is native coastal
plant plantings uh then I'm I'm fine with it. Um it could you also just describe like >> Okay. So it's all lawn there. All right. >> It's all lawn >> path if needed or anything. Okay. >> Yeah. So, so for mitigation plantings, you know, we h we have a list that you
can pick from um coastal planting, native coastal plantings. So, >> I can send that over to you, Tom, as well. >> Yep. >> Excellent. That'd be great. >> Otherwise, I don't have any questions. Thank you. >> Okay. Yep. Thank you, Mary Woody. Questions for Tom on his proposal.
>> Um they pretty much just covered between the peers and the um what what it was going to be sitting on and it's going to be long. So that I understand the mitigation now. So I'm good, Bob. Thank you. >> Okay. Thank you, Woody. Uh Mick,
questions for Tom on this project. >> Uh no, no. Uh pretty clear. Uh I'm all set. Thank you. >> Yeah, we've had one or two of these before. Harry, any questions for Tom on his submittal? >> Um ju just curious how how high is it
and what are you what are you using it for? Um, it's pretty much, as you see, there's a lawn, so I need to put a lawn mower in there. Um, all the summer furniture is going to go in there. The height is going to be
there 7 foot walls and then the pitch of the roof. So, I'm going to guess it's going to be, we'll call it 11 feet, >> 12 if you include the foot that it gets raised off the ground. And do you have any electric out there now or are you
going to be running any >> No electric at all? >> No. No electric out there. Okay. >> Nope. >> Um I I'm fine. No more questions, Bob, for me. >> Okay. Uh thank you, Harry. Dave, any any questions for Tom on his shed proposal?
>> Did you say me? I I have >> Yeah. Yes, Dave. >> Okay. >> All right. Thank you, Dave. And I Tom, I don't have any any questions. I think you've covered everything. Uh Mason, are there any raised hands in the public that may want to speak on this matter?
>> Seeing none. >> Okay. Do any members have a request for a site visit or additional information? Okay. Hearing none, I will entertain a motion to issue a negative finding on four basin front drive. So moved.
Second. >> Okay. Okay. Roll call. All in favor? Mary? >> Yes. >> Woody? >> Yes. >> Mick. >> Hi. >> Harry. >> Yes. >> Dave. >> Yes. >> And Bob Connor. So, cheers. Thank you,
Tom. Just check in with Mason before you start so that uh you know you're all on the same page. >> Hey. Well, just for the plantings, it probably won't be until the spring. >> Yeah. The other thing is on an RDA, I think there's still a 10-day waiting period once it's submitted to DP. So, is
it a 10-day appeal period, 10 business day appeal period on an RDA? Okay. So, wait till you get that in hand and it's, you know, and it's uh gone to 10 days, then you'll be good to go. >> Sounds good. Thank you very much for your time. >> Okay. Uh, next matter is a new public
hearing D file number 0501457 at 16 Low Street. The applicant is submitting a notice of intent to raise and rebuild the single family home in the buffer zone with associated site work, septic replacement, construction of vegetated buffer strip along the
wetland boundary. >> Uh Bob, we have one one more RDA. >> Yeah. >> Okay. What did >> uh two Yale way? >> Yep. No, my page is stuck together. >> No worries. >> This paperwork. Okay. Excuse me. Request
for determination of applicability to Yale Way. Applicants submitting an RDA for the installation of a groundmounted solar panels. Mason, can you give us an overview and a recommendation if you have one? >> So, I can pull up the picture to give
the board an idea of how these are anchored into the ground. Um, let me know when you guys can see that. >> Yeah, I can. So, this is the system that they're proposing to install. And then for the location, um we take a look at the site
plan here. It's going to be just off of the existing driveway um in what is pretty much a a garden area right now. That it looks like they had some, you know, planted some um some plants in this area and I have some photos to show
as well. Um, outside of that, I think as long as they propose uh mitigation planting for whatever the square footage impact would be of these, um, I don't see an issue with this. >> Okay. Is the applicant here, and would they like to make a presentation?
>> I'm here, but I I this is my first time ever doing something like this, so I'm a little confused. >> Well, why don't we do this stat? Give us your name and address. >> Okay. So, my name is Trisha Mercedes. address 12 Hampton Street.
>> Okay. So, you don't you that's where you're are you the owner of the property or are you proposing the work? >> No. So, I'm the one proposing the work. I'm doing the we're the solar company that's doing the work for the customer. >> Oh, okay. >> I joined the meeting to see if I can ask
questions and see where what this was about >> and I'm kind of getting a feel for it now. >> Well, well, that's we're glad to hear that. Yeah. Okay. So, I guess Mason, you have you been out to this site? >> Yep. Uh let me I can pull up the
pictures where it is uh proposed. >> I mean, I think the big thing is what's the elevation of the panels above grade? I'm more curious just for So, if I had I can just ask uh quick question, Bob.
>> Certainly, ma'am. >> Yeah. So, just based on the pictures uh uh Tristan, are they proposing the removal of that white pine and the the alder that's in there? >> Yes, I believe so.
>> Okay. So, Okay. Mason, go back to the proposed plan. Does that show any of the trees? >> I don't think it does. >> It doesn't. >> Okay. >> Is the applicant here? >> Okay. Yeah.
Go back one one uh Yeah. I mean, I'm actually kind of confused looking at at this drawing. Can you zoom out on that a little bit, Mason, please? >> So, what So, the panels are going in that kind of elliptical shape on three
sides. >> No, the panels are just that little triangle, that rectangle right there where it says ground mounted array in the back, the bottom left corner of the plot. No. >> Oh. Oh, okay. What? Oh, what are those? The meets and bounds that I'm saying. >> Yeah.
>> Okay. >> Yeah. I can't even read any of the uh can't even read the the notations on it. Okay. Yeah. I I mean, what's the area it's covering, Mason? >> Um I am not
>> that other plan that showed the what's it? Project notes. Go to the satellite view on that because you know what? That'll give us an idea where that it if we could zoom in on that satellite view there. may give you an idea, Mick, where that
tree is in relation to the >> uh it may be better if I pull it up on maps instead. >> Okay. Yeah, why don't you do that just to >> Yeah, I was just looking at the aerial and it's a pretty wood. It's pretty well vegetated area behind the house.
Yeah, I mean I I I think one Mason that be remiss if I didn't repeat that having the owner here, you know, for these RDAs just expedites the process for them. >> Okay.
>> And uh and so my two questions are going to be what what's the square footage of the solar panels? >> Let me see. What's the flood zone that they're in? And they were proposing, you said,
mitigation plantings. >> Uh, that was just my recommendation for whatever the the offset of the solar panels would be. >> Okay. Well, so for me, I think we need to know the area of the the square footage of solar panels if they're going to remove
a tree, the square footage, the square footage of the proposed mitigation, where it's going to go. I mean, I think they can they can mark this up pretty easily. Uh, and if that tree is coming out, are they going to replant another,
you know, replant another tree or replant associated bushes something to replace that tree if it's in fact in in play? But all right, why don't I So, Mary, do you do you have any other questions in this? And I think we need more
information. >> Yeah, it looks like it was a little bit more information. So, I would like to know the height of the panels above grade >> because it's possible to vegetate underneath them. There's some clearing >> to install um that they might may or may not need mitigation plantings if they
can get enough >> clearance above the existing vegetation. Um I'm assuming the tree is going to go if you're going to have solar panels that right there the trees probably going to go. Um, but that the question is whether or not they're high enough,
you know, if they're 4 feet above grade, that's probably enough sunlight to allow at least grass to grow underneath it >> and then maybe they don't need mitigation. So, that would be my question. >> Okay. So, we need to know the flood zone, Mason, the elevation, the square
footage, and if the tree is going, whether or not we're going to ask that they replant some other bushes somewhere else just to >> mitigation. But, and please uh let the
owner know too that we we really urge them to be present on these things to answer questions. So, all right. Why don't we uh again, this isn't a public hearing, so we don't have to formally vote to continue the
public hearing. Mason, why don't you kick this to the December meeting? >> Bob, it looks like Dave has his hand up. >> Oh, Dave, do you have a question on this? >> I just an observation, not a question. Um the the aerial view looks pretty
sparse. Um I want to share my screen very quickly. Um, and I don't know if you can see this. >> Uh, you should be able to screen share now, >> but it's very it's very very green around here. So, I'd be curious about
>> how many tre I mean, it looks like it's kind of put over in here in the corner. So, I think some of the questions are um are good. What's the uh square footage of the panels and how many trees they're going to have to take down? It looks like uh you know, a broccoli farm over here as opposed to the other
presentation. Yeah. So, that would be my only question. I think it would be probably a good for a site visit as well. >> Yeah. No, I think that uh well, I think one, let's let's do this. Let's get the additional information that we need. Uh it we can't really schedule a site visit
without that information because then we're still kind of speculating like we are now, >> right? >> So, I think uh Mason, why don't you reach out to them? >> Yep. Yeah, I can get that information. And in the meantime, I can get some better pictures of that area.
>> And and if they could even stake out where the panels are going in relationship. Um if if you walk it with the owner and you're comfortable with it and take some pictures, that may suffice me for a site visit, but I think that uh we need some
more information. So, >> all righty. >> Does anyone else in the commission have a question? We're just going to kick this to the December meeting. >> Yeah. What are So, what are some of the some of the things that you need like what questions specifically do you have
so that we're ready for the next >> um >> I got all I have all those written down so I can coordinate with Tristan on on what the board's looking for. >> Oh, okay. Perfect. Thank you. >> Okay. All right, Tristan. Thank you. >> Thank you, sir. >> Okay. All right. Now to the next order
of business. Making sure my pages don't stick together here. Okay. at new public hearing. D file number 0501457, excuse me, 16 Low Street. Applicant is submitting a notice of intent to raise and rebuild a single family home in the
buffer zone with associated site work, septic replacement, and construction of a vegetated buffer strip along the wetland boundary. Mason, can you give us an overview on this one? >> Yeah. Uh, so this house had actually burnt down. I think it was about five or
six years ago now. Um so now they're proposing the raise and rebuild. Um it's roughly in the same location. It's going to be a different footprint of the existing house. Um and the other thing I would mention is that the lot itself is kind of a a shell shape. So once we get
uh towards the back of the house, it all kind of pitches down into the the wetland area that's in the back. Um and then that being said, they they are proposing um a vegetative buffer um in addition to to what's existing there. Um and yeah, that's all I have and I will
pass it to Mike. >> Okay, Mike, are you presenting on this one? >> Yes. Uh Mike D. Rosa, D. Rosa Environmental. Um I'll share my screen. Um, so we do have a file number as you guys
know. Uh, no comments. Can you see my screen? Okay. >> Yeah, it's loading mine. >> Yes. >> And then, um, we're on Low Street off of Hay Street. Um 1A is is over here. I'll
use my disappearing pen. So here's the site. Um Hay Street and and 1A. Um I also have
um I had the Oops. architect do a rendering of of what the house is going to look like. So, it's it's it's a very lowprofile house. Um, and uh, you know, it'll fit right into the neighborhood. So, so nothing
ostentatious or more than is needed. Um, the wetland line is in green and then the buffer zone includes most of the site. Um, the flood plane is is offsite here.
Um, and as um I'll zoom in here so you can see better. We are proposing a drip edge around the house which will be
basically 24 in wide by 18 in deep. Um, gravel, coarse gravel. um which will be over there's an overhang over the uh over the roof instead of uh gutters. Architects, as you know, don't like gutters. So, we're
doing a drip edge, which would be fine. And then um and then we are proposing I also have a uh a small planting plan here. We're going to convert some of the lawn to native
plantings um which will be a buffer strip which which will be perennial um wild flowers while bergamont white yrow red fescue and little blue stem here. Um and then we'll keep the
10-ft wide buffer strip so that any runoff from the lawn is going to get filtered and u facilitate infiltration before it goes into the wetland. Uh we have the um drip edge which I explained earlier around
the entire perimeter of the house. Um and then we have two rain gardens out front. Uh we are proposing a paved driveway. Um but we have two the patios are going
to be porous. Um and those are um detailed here where we have 16 in of gravel uh 1 in and then 3/4 in and then uh 2 in of rice stone and then the
pavers will be set in the rice stone so that it's it's porous all the way through. Um the rain garden will have a separate planting plan. We got soft rush, wool grass, path rush, red fescue,
uh obedience plant, and white yrow. We'll probably put the obedience plant and white yrow along the edges. Um and then the facultative things will be uh in the bottom. Um there is
um we've got sort of I forget if they put the number of inches. I think 3 or 4 in of um aged uh wood chips on top of the surface and then uh 12 in of a mix
of 40% sand, 30% top soil, 30% compost, and then uh 6 in of crush stone underneath. So, this is all from the mass DP uh rain garden design. Um but essentially that's it.
Everything's in the buffer zone. Um, and uh, we think we've addressed everything. If there's any questions, we can take those, but we'd ask the commission to issue an order of conditions to to do the work. >> Uh, Mike, couple of quick questions
before I open it up to the the rest of the members. There's an existing structure here now that's going to be raised. >> Yep. >> What's the what's the footprint of that? And is the do you have an overlay showing existing?
>> Shown in red. >> Yeah, it's shown in red here. >> Oh, okay. Yeah. Geez, I can barely see that. Okay. What's the square footage of existing versus proposed is where >> that I don't have that. >> Okay,
>> I could easily get that. >> Yeah. And what's the status of your board of health submitt on the septic? >> I believe he's gone to border health, Steve. Um, Steven Sawyer's doing the the septic.
Um, but I believe he's gone to them um and applied. It's a uh I think it's a threebedroom um system. >> Okay. Is there >> I can get more information on that if you need.
>> Yeah. Where is the existing system? >> Right here. >> Okay. And so where is the proposed system going? >> It's uh >> are they just reusing? >> Yeah, we got the proposed sewer, proposed septic tank, new tank, I guess. >> Yeah. >> Um
>> Okay. Connect to existing. Okay. So, they're reusing the leech field. Did you? >> Yeah, they're reusing leech field. >> Okay. All right. Uh Mary, questions uh for Mike on this? >> Um not really. Mike gets a, you know, obviously a very comprehensive um
filing. We have all it looks like most of the information that we need. Looks like there's going to be some clearing on the well, I don't know if this the north edge of the site, but as we're looking at the plan of the top edge where that
um brush line is being pushed back. So, there are some clearing proposed. Um it might be a site that's worth doing a site inspection for just because it is new construction. And we typically do that for a a new construction in which case we just would need the building
corners closest to the wetland. Um off it looks like there's a little bit of grading in the backyard but not but not very >> just to here. Yeah. >> Yep. Um so it seems like a fair fairly straightforward. We don't have the we
have the 100 foot buffers shown but typically we like to see the 50 foot as well even though we don't have a bylaw just to give >> Okay. remember some context. So, it's gonna which is going to include much much of the house as well. >> Um, but it's within, you know, it's
basically encompassing the original >> building area and it's really it encroaching further back towards the wetland than the existing buildings because there's a shed out back as well. Um, so it it looks pretty straightforward to me, but my only
comment would be just um maybe get eyes on it, check the wetland line and and um and the the any mitigation beyond what is proposed. >> Okay. So Mary, would you you would like to see the the rear prop the rear
boundaries of the house staked out? Is that what you Okay. And Mike, what do you have for flagging in the field now or what's out there for >> It should be flagged, but I can refresh it if it needs to be. I'll check it before you guys go out there.
>> It It was still uh It was still good. We could still read the flag numbers and stuff. >> Okay. >> Looks like there's a pretty um pretty good change in slope right at the wetland line there. >> Okay. Okay. I think site visits
more likely than not on all of these NOIs anyway. So, okay, Mary, anything else? I can circle back. Have anything else? >> Thank you. >> All right. Thank you, Mary. What do any any questions for Mike on this? >> I agree that
a site visit would be very helpful. Um, I do have one question though for Mike. On the northern side where the shed towards the shed on the property line, there's some fairly large pine trees. Are those going to stay or are those proposed to go?
>> I will. Well, let's look at those at the sidewalk. I can't remember to be honest. >> Okay. >> Um, we'll look at that. Yeah, I think it's very important to do sidewalks, especially on these NOIs, the bigger projects.
And so I I encourage that. >> I think those pine trees are where the proposed uh new driveway is >> in here. >> Okay. >> Yeah, we'll look at that. Maybe we'll have to put some trees into the restoration plan.
>> Okay. Uh no, no further questions. I I look forward to the sidewalk. Thank you. >> Thank you, Woody. Mick, any any questions for Mike on this project? >> Uh not particularly. Just uh Mike, I know like Woody brought up a good point. Have any trees flagged for removal for
the sitewalk. Uh one of the things we also like to see too is, you know, what's the plan? You know, what's your lay down area? What's your demo plan? >> Yeah. >> You going to live load? Are you going to have dumpsters, you know, um rolloffs or whatever you're going to have. And it's good to be able to define that like in
your demob or your demo phase, >> you know, where material is going to be staged, >> what's your lay down area, those those types of things. >> So, uh, yeah, just >> yeah, we can do that >> as we as we move towards the sitewalk and and updating the plan. But no, great plan. Thank you.
>> Okay. Thank you, Mick. Harry, questions for Mike on this. Mike, I don't know if you had said this, but is it um the the existing well the old house was it uh a foundation or was it on on p not pilings
but on something right raising it up off the ground since it was uh near the wetlands? >> I cannot remember if it's if it was on a slab or if it was a foundation.
Mason, did you when you were out there, do you remember? >> I don't. I'm trying to look at the pictures now. >> Yeah, >> I believe. >> I'm I'm just curious. Are you going to Well, obviously the house is a lot bigger than what what is um
>> was there existing u what what was what was the idea of, >> you know, if it's a slab, are you going to make the slab the same size as the house or what are the ideas on that? Here's a pretty good shot.
You can see the fire there. Um, these are the trees. I think those are off site, guys. Maybe. We'll check that though. We'll check that at the sitewalk. And we'll look at the um we'll look at the foundation. I
think this is going to have a foundation though. >> Yeah, it's seven or eight feet higher than the wetland elevation. So, it's It's got enough depth. >> Yeah. >> Hence the value of a sitewalk. >> Absolutely.
>> I believe it's a slab. I don't I don't recall a cell of that. >> Um Bob, I have no no further questions. >> Okay. Uh thank you, Harry. Dave, any questions on this one? >> Um I had a couple. Um yeah, it looks
like it's substantially larger than the original house um that it's replacing. I can get those numbers for you. >> Is it the same number of bedrooms as the previous house? >> It would have to be. Yeah. To meet the uh septic system requirements. >> This is more a question to the board, I
guess. When something like this is done, do they do like a reperk of the of the septic system to make sure that it's functioning properly or no? Is that not required? >> Usually, they go before the board of health and the board of health uh makes a determination. It has to be approved
by the board of health. >> Okay. >> And >> very good. >> Okay. >> Then I have no other questions. No. >> Okay. Thank you. So, Mike, just going over I I think just going over what I've heard is it would be good if we had the
existing square footage versus proposed uh locate a staging area. What's your proposed limitation of work there just within your filtration? it would be within the erosion control which is this
orange line here. So price, you know, staging is going to be here, but we can mark up the plan for the next meeting. >> Okay. Okay. Uh I don't have any other questions at this time. Mason, let's see if there we have any raised hands from the public.
>> Seeing none, but if I could just add one more thing. I noticed that an an old I don't know if you saw this, Mike, but I think it showed in the aerials too. an old piece of maybe boardwalk or something like that that was in the wetland area. Uh I would just recommend that we condition that to be removed as well.
>> Okay. Yeah. >> Okay. So, >> and no no raised hands from the public at this time. >> Okay. >> Well, do any members have a request for a site visit or additional information? Mike, I think we gave you the primary
round of additional information and a site visit is in order. When So, Mike, you're going to have to come back on the December 2nd meeting anyway. If we could get when would you be able to get your plan updated and get that staked and see
if we can coordinate a site visit prior to that so we could consider final action on the December meeting. Why don't I uh talk to um the engineer, see when they can get that done, and then I'll um I'll get back in touch with with
Mason and we can schedule a date. Would that work? >> Yeah, I think that'll be fine. >> Okay. >> All right. And Mason, you can circulate that to the members. >> Yep. >> And and again, no problems on scheduling meetings. So, okay. Uh, I will So, Mike,
you're requesting continuence of the public hearing to the December 2nd meeting. Is that the correct date? >> Yep, that would be perfect. >> Okay. I will entertain a motion to continue the public hearing to the December 2nd meeting at the applicant's
request. >> So, moved. Second. >> All right. Uh, roll call. All in favor? Mary? >> Yes. >> Woody? >> Yes. Mick. >> Hi, >> Harry. >> Yes, >> Dave.
Dave, you may be on mute. >> Oops. Sorry. Yes, Bob. >> Okay. And Bob Khan is both sh Okay. Thank you, Mike. >> Thank you everyone. I appreciate it. Good to see everybody. So, typically we try to do these on Monday or Tuesday around 8 o'clock just to kind of throw
out um you know a time frame, but >> sure. >> I'm pretty flexible in my end. All right. Thank you. >> All right. Thank you everyone. Good night. >> Okay. Now, we have continued public hearings. So, Dave, on continued public hearings where you weren't here when the
meeting was open, you you actually can't vote on continued public hearings. But this previous one where this was the initial meeting um you know you're good to go from there forward. So >> doesn't mean you can't ask questions. It
just means when we take a vote um we I won't be calling on you. >> That's fine. No problem. >> Okay. Continue public hearing. D file number 0501455. Old Newbury Golf Club. Applicant is submitting an RDA for golf.
>> Well, they're not submitting an RDA. NOI for golf course maintenance work including T- box relocation, tree removal within the buffer zone areas. Mason, can you give us an update? Was this continued? >> Yep. So, at our last meeting, they had requested a continuence to the December
2nd meeting um to get some plan amendments and also uh get some flagging out in the field so that we can schedule a sitewalk. >> Okay. All right. Well, so there's no one here from the applicant then? >> Nope. >> Okay. Uh, I will entertain a motion to
continue the public hearing to December 2nd at the applicant's request. >> Didn't they already request that at the last meeting? >> Did they request it December? >> Yeah, I think they did. >> Okay. So, okay. >> Yeah, we should be good.
>> Yep. No action taken. Okay, great. Okay, next matter. Uh, continue public hearing DP file number 0501456 58 58 River. I'm actually want to play those on a in a lottery ticket. The way those numbers lined up on there.
>> 58 River Front East applicant is submitting a notice of intent to replace an existing septic system within a 200 within 200 feet of the riverfront area. Mason, can you give us a a refresh on this? And I see Bob Graasso waiting patiently.
>> Yep. So, we had reviewed this at the last meeting. Um, and I think where we had ended up um is that um with the relocation of the septic, this was um practically the only place that it could have been moved and redone. Um so, that's where we left off and I believe
Bob was here to present if he has any more. >> Okay. So, as I recall, Bob, we just had a glitch on the posting to the agenda. Uh you made your presentation. Um, so Bob, why don't you do this? Let me let me just see if we have any additional questions or you can
certainly redo your presentation. >> Well, just to make it public, um, my name is Bob Gracel from Engineering Land Services representing 58 Riverfront East and this is for a septic system repair replacement. And if the board has any uh further
questions from the last hearing, ready to answer those. >> I think Bob's frozen. >> Yeah, I think Bob's question. >> No, I have it now. I lost you for a while. >> Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I know. All right, Mary. It looked like everything froze up there. I think it was the Mason. What
the heck you doing over there in California? >> Getting frozen out here. >> Yeah, I know. Well, Mary, I'm I skipped over you. I thought that was local to you, but >> don't be throwing Mason under the bus now. >> I don't have any questions, Bob.
>> Okay. Thank you, Mary. Woody, any questions on this one? >> No, I'm good. Thank you, Bob. >> Mick, any questions on this one? >> No. Uh Bob uh gave us a great, you know, very detailed presentation last time, so I'm all set. >> Yep. Thank you, Mick. Harry, any questions? >> No questions at this time, Bob.
>> Okay, I do not have any questions. Uh, are there any raised hands from the public at this time? >> Seeing none. >> Okay. Any members have a request for a site visit or additional information. >> Okay. Hearing none. I will entertain a
motion to close the public hearing. >> So moved. >> Second. >> Second. >> Okay. Okay. A roll call. All in favor? Mary? >> Yes. >> Woody? >> Yes. >> Mick. I >> Harry.
>> Yes. >> And Bob Connor's vote. Yes. All right, team. So, this is usually the time we discuss uh conditions. I mean, this seems pretty pretty clearcut. Any particular concerns or conditions
that we should entertain? I nothing comes to mind from my standpoint, but Mary, what are your thoughts? Any >> No, I didn't have any special conditions on this one. Thank Thank you. >> Okay. Woody, any anything you wanted to add? >> No, I'm good, Bob. Thanks. >> Okay, Mick, how about you?
>> No, I think we're doing like for like here, so uh Yeah. >> Yeah, we should be all set. >> Yeah, Harry. >> Standard. >> Nope, I'm all set, Bob. >> Okay. Hey, Bob, one question. Are you all set? You're all set at the board of health on this anyway, right? >> Yes, that was approved um Okay.
>> previously that before that hearing. >> Okay. I will entertain a motion to issue an order conditions for 58 Riverfront East. >> So moved. >> Second. >> Okay. Roll call. All in favor? Mary? >> Yes. >> Woody?
>> Yes. >> Mick? >> Yes. >> Harry? >> Yes. >> And Bob Connor's vote here. Thank you, Bob. >> Thank you for your time. Thank you. >> Okay, we have a continued public hearing. D file number 050.
uh 1454 31 Downfall Road. The applicant is submitting a notice of intent for the construction of a single family home van garage conventional septic system. The proposed project disturbance in Del.
The project proposes disturbance and development within a 100 foot buffer zone. Mason, what's the status on this one? >> Uh so we had done a sitewalk here on Monday. Um, we reviewed the wetland line. Um, we had talked about, uh,
excuse me, I'm just going to pull up the plan. Um, and I don't think after we left we had any additional questions. Um, we were talking about a slight increase in their um, their limit of work um, just to address some some debris and some
things that they were going to clean up on the site. Um, but after that I I think the board was all set with uh with questions when when we were on site. >> Okay. Who's uh who's presenting for the applicant? Just give us your name and your title. >> Lawrence and I'm at 33 Downfall Road and
I apologize for some reason my camera is not working. >> So hopefully you can hear me. >> Yeah. Thank you. We And you go by Jay as I recall. >> I do. Yep. >> Okay. Why don't I do this? Why don't you just be ready for questions if we have any?
>> Sure. >> Okay, Mary, any questions on this one? >> Um, so I um the wetland boundary that was delineated for the site was very um conservative towards the upland. So um I had no with no changes or or questions
about that. The work is all in the buffer zone. Um it's a hard plan to read. Um there's a lot going on in but so as a result D had comments on this project and I don't know if you uh
had a chance to see those Mason but >> uh I so we had the original comments and then uh Jay had sent back the um narrative and then the updated plan to D >> and they said that they were good from there.
>> Okay, great. All right, then that was my only that was going to be my only comment. Um there's some special conditions I think that you know when we get to that point, but otherwise um the the site is for those of you who didn't see it, you know, it's it's um pretty
disturbed from um past, you know, development activities and things. So, there's an area of the house is proposed, you know, in near an area where there's an old riding ring and there's an old barn that's eventually going to be taken down and some um
you know, just bare ground where there's been trucks and equipment driving around. So, it's not a it's not like it's a pristine site, I guess, is my point. >> Okay. All right. Mary, any anything else? >> Nope. >> Okay. Thank you, Mary. Woody, any
questions for Jay on this one? >> I don't have any questions for Jay. The sitewalk was very helpful. Thank you both. >> All right. Thank you, Woody. Mick, any any questions for Jay? >> I do not. Thank you. >> Okay, Harry, how about yourself? Any questions? >> No questions.
>> Okay, I don't have any questions on this. Are there any raised hand? Do any members have any additional questions before I open this up to the public? Okay. Are there any raised hands in the public at this time?
>> Seeing none. >> Okay. Do any members have a request for a site vis or additional information? >> One I had one thing, Bob. I think that that in the D comments they talked about
previous outstanding u orders of conditions on the site. Is that right? Yeah, that was one of the preliminary comments. Yeah, I did I hadn't seen anything on the EA data portal >> for this address, >> correct? Yeah. >> Okay.
So, you don't think there is any outstanding order for this site? >> No. >> Okay. >> Okay. All right. Any anything else, Mary? >> No. >> Okay. Uh,
I will entertain a motion to close the public hearing. >> So moved. >> Second. >> Okay. Roll call. All in favor? Mary? >> Yes. >> Woody? >> Yes. >> Mick? >> I. >> Harry? >> Yes.
>> And Bob Connor's vote? Yes. All right. So, Mary, special this is when we would discuss special conditions. What were you thinking on that? Do we can you pull the plan up too, Mason? Just to >> I think the main thing was to get rid of
all the non-organic material that's on the site within the buffer zone. So any um some of the um riding ring material had uh you know um rubber crushed rubber within mixed in with the sand that's
being exported from the site um to a different farm. So that should be removed. Um but there's other there's other debris on site and there's some clearing of um you know of material in the buffer zone. Just that those areas
that are disturbed as part of that clearing be restored to uh vegetated cover. >> Okay. Okay. So, not non-organics to be removed and disturbed areas to be
planted. >> Yeah. >> Okay. All right. Any any other special conditions team? Um Woody, anything you you can think of? >> No. Um but just to clarify with what Mary said, you're referring to the like the that pad area where the bricks were,
correct? There was that there was that there was the rhining ring in the uh in the back and then there was um to the left of the house that's proposed there there was a just a pile of stuff in a big in a brush pile essentially and
>> that all had to come out as well. Yeah. >> Yep. No, those are the three things I remember as well. Okay. >> Thank you. >> No, I'm good. >> All right. Thank you, Woody. Mick, any anything any conditions you want to consider? >> No, I'm good. Thank you. >> Okay. Thank you, McCary. How about you? Any
>> I'm all set, Bob. >> Okay. And I am all set. Um All right. I will entertain a motion to issue an order of conditions for 31 Downfall Road, uh subject to the special conditions previously
mentioned, which was non-organics to be removed, disturbed. Mason, you can be more specific on the non-organics if it's wood, bricks, or what have you to >> Yep. >> where I wasn't on the site visit, which I apologize.
Okay, so that's the motion. Do we have a >> So moved. >> Okay, Harry, do we have a second? >> Second. >> Okay, roll call. All in favor? Mary? >> Yes. >> Woody? >> Yes. >> Mick, >> I. >> Harry,
>> yes. >> And Bob Connor's votes yes. Thank you, Jay. >> Okay. >> Okay. Next matter. Uh, continue public hearing. D file number 0501453, 34 Central Street. Applicant is
submitting a notice of intent for the construction of an MBTA residential housing development at 34 Central Street. Uh, Mason, they've requested a continuation. And Heidi is not here tonight, correct? >> Yep. Yeah. They had requested a
continuence at our last meeting to the December 2nd meeting. >> Okay. So, this is just an update. We don't have to we don't have to mo we've already made the motion. Okay. >> All right. Team, this is continued to December 2nd.
Okay. Next matter. Extension request. Uh we have a number of extension requests. Uh and and they're all tied into 108 Main Street, the Colin Tony crossing. The applicant's requesting a permit extension for a subdivision that
consists of five lots and the order of conditions for the roadway and drainage. It's D file numbers 050136 1351 134 13 23 1. Looks like actually lot three has the
same file number as lot four. That might just be a typo >> on on the let me just see on the agenda. >> Yeah, lot three must be one three 2 three not two four because
it's listed twice. Can we just double check that Mason? So that >> Yeah, I have >> Well, Maren, you can Marin is lot three. What's the What's the file number in lot three? We have a typo, I think. >> Um, one minute there, too.
>> I have it as 0501323. >> Okay. Yeah, we No, we just have a typo one, but Okay. All right, Mason, why don't you give us an update? I know you did a site visit there today. As I recall, the last time
this was before us, uh the applicant had some refreshing of uh wetland controls, wetland erosion and flagging. >> Yep. So, I was able to go out there today. Um lots of raspberry multifllora
rose, so a lot of thorns if anyone dares to visit the site. Um that being said, uh yeah, I would recommend that uh all the flagging be updated. um and erosion controls as well. There's definitely still some older flags out there. Um but I think they're worn to this point where where we can't, you know, read what the
what the flag numbers are. Um and then the erosion controls have uh you know, pretty much broken apart completely at this point. So, um before we start any more ground disturbance, I'd recommend that we have both of those and then a pre-construction sidewalk as well. >> Okay. All right. Well, for for the the
matter of the extension, u Okay. So Moren, good evening. Give give us your name and your position. Not that we don't know it already, but >> Sure. Moren Herald, Norris Environmental Services. I'm here on behalf of uh Mr.
Colon Tony. Um so we'd like to request a three-year extension. Uh Mr. Coen Tony, I spoke to him today. Um he does have a buyer interested in one of the lots. He's planning on u moving forward with
the project in a relatively short time in the next few months. Um and would like a continuence to keep the permit active. >> Okay. As as I recall, Moren, the last time you guys were in that was which was
a half a dozen months ago as I recall, >> uh Mr. Colin, Tony had mentioned that he was going to refresh the erosion controls and the flagging at that time be before he would request the continuence. But
>> right, so that hasn't been done as Mason has stated. Um, I completely agree. The erosion controls, the flaggings need to be refreshed and we're more than happy to do a pre-construction sitewalk to verify that. >> Okay. Well, I think the good thing is you made
your request 30 days prior to expiration. >> Yes. >> So, you're you're covered from there. What's the likelihood of getting your erosion controls in and your flagging done uh in the next 30 days?
>> Um if it's required, we'll get it done. It it needs to be done. We can get it done. >> Okay. >> Um >> that was kind of the promise that Mr. to call and Tony and May. We had discussed that back in when were you here? In April or May, I forget now. >> I think it was February. >> Okay.
>> I have February in my notes. >> Okay. >> Well, what what I would like to see is the the flagging redone and the and the erosion controls refreshed. >> We'll put this on the December 2nd meeting. You you're covered anyway because you've made the application
request. So even if it took you know 45 days you're you're still good. So >> okay. >> Okay. So questions uh from the members Mary questions. >> Yes. So is this the first request for extension?
>> So um I guess technically it is. So um the permit was issued in 2020. um we fell under the permit extension act which gave us two years. >> Yeah. >> Additional two years. So this is the
first formal request uh for an extension. >> So what is the expiration date? >> Um so the expiration date was uh 128 of 2025.
>> 128. Okay. So my concern, Bob, is that we can't extend an expired order. So we have to extend it before it expires. We could extend it at our next meeting in December, but we can't go beyond that. So >> yeah, I I I thought the the rule of the
law was Mary as long as they requested 30 days prior to >> No, you have to make the request 30 days prior, but you can't uh you still have to it still has to be the decision still has to be for an active permit. >> Okay?
>> So you can't backdate your permit, your your uh extension. >> Okay? >> Um so so in any event, if if If you wanted to wait until erosion controls were in place and and do it at the next meeting at on 1210,
I'm fine with that. But um I I think it's irrelevant to the extension. It's more relevant to the order of conditions. So if you're >> No, I I just was recapping Yeah. the recollection. And I mean, I'll be honest
with you, I'm fine addressing the extension and having Maren nudge, >> you know, the applicant to get the erosion controls done, but if you're >> I think they're two separate issues because we can't extension or anything. So, yeah. >> Yeah, that's a good point.
>> So, I'm in favor of issuing the extension if that's what's needed for this project. >> All right. So, let me just go through this. So, Mary, you're in favor. Woody, any questions? Do you have a problem doing the extension? Okay, Woody, Mick, what what are your thoughts?
>> Yeah. Well, kind of in between where you and Mary are, I think if we approve the extension, we can always uh approach the lack of erosion controls and mark in and delineation under, you know, a violation of the order of conditions. Correct.
>> Well, yeah, you're right. May Mason could actually do an enforcement order requiring that. >> If they haven't done any work, then they're not in violation. So it's only until they start doing work. >> Right. Right. Okay. So as soon as like what you're saying Mary is as soon as
ground disturbance occurs. >> Yeah. >> The erosion control and wetland >> has to be in place then. Yeah. >> If they're not if they if their erosion controls have failed but there isn't any ground disturbance that's occurred. I don't know. Maybe they've already cleared if if they've already cleared
land then the erosion control should be functional and in place. >> Yeah. I think they did. They did tree cutting, didn't they, Maren? Hasn't there been tree clearing? >> Yes. So, so they did clear the site, but as Mason mentioned, it's pretty much
overgrown. So, I'm not too concerned about any erosion or sedimentation to the resource areas. But, um, again, if if the commission wants the flagging reestablished in the erosion control zen as part of the condition of the extension, we can do that.
Well, uh, I won't speak for anybody else, but I think Moren, if the existing order of conditions requires that and there's been disturbance, tree removal or whatever, then that erosion control and marking should be in place. >> That's correct.
>> Now, so I mean, we can, but >> if it isn't corrected within a reasonable time, say 30 to 45 days, then we would have to, you know, pursue it. >> Yeah. a verbal enforcement order might be the nudge of marine to get
>> but I think to to Mary's point they are two separate and distinct issues before us. One is an existing condition but the extension is just timesensible. Mick any anything else on on that? >> Nope. Nope. Nothing else.
>> Okay. Harry, any any questions? >> Nope. Not at this time, Bob. >> Okay. Uh, so I don't have any any any issues on this. What I'm going to suggest, Maren, is uh we'll entertain any mo we'll open this up to the public
if there's any feedback certainly, but I think we can go forward with the request on the extensions tonight, but just give Mr. Colanton a heads up that the board would like to see this done sooner rather than later. And if it drags on that, Mason may issue an
enforcement order to get that refreshed. Understood. >> But we'll keep it we'll keep them separate and distinct. >> Okay. >> Okay. Mason, are there any uh any me any raised to answer from the public? >> Seeing none.
>> Okay. Uh do any members have a request for a site visit additional information? As it's an extension, there's no need. >> I will entertain a motion to issue a certificate of compliance for lots 1 through five. call
>> extension. >> You know, my day starts at 4:30 in the morning and it gets dark at 4:30. I feel like it's midnight. >> Might as well be 10 o'clock at night, Bob. >> Oh my god. Yeah. I will entertain a a motion to issue a certificate of extension
>> extension. >> An extension for lots one through five Colin Tony Crossing. >> So move to move. >> Okay. Harry. Woody. Okay. Roll call. All in favor? Mary? >> Yes. >> Woody?
>> Yes. >> Mick. >> Hi. >> Harry. >> Yes. >> And Bob Connor's vote. Yes. So, Mason, just double check on lot three. That's 1323, not 1324. >> Excuse me, Mr. Chairman. We also have um
an order of conditions for the roadway and the drainage as well. >> Um >> Okay. So that's for is that Okay, that's 1326. >> Yes. >> Okay. All right. Let me just let Why don't we just do this? I'll I'll
entertain a motion to uh the extension request for D file number 0501326, roadway and drainage. >> So moved. >> Okay. Do we have a second? >> Okay. All in favor? Mary? >> Yes. >> Woody? Yes,
>> Mick. >> Hi, >> Harry. >> Yes. >> And Bob Connor is voters. Thank you, Marin. >> Thank you. Have a good night. >> Okay. All right. General project discussions. Uh Mason, what's going on at the Larkin Dam?
>> Yeah. Uh so, the dam has been completely breached. They just did uh most of the final regrading at the Larkin site and started pulling up the access road there. Um we just got DOT approval on Monday um for the work that's happening under the I95 bridge um which is you
know one of the big elements of the project for scour protection on the bridge. Um so that's starting this week and in the past week they've been stockpile stockpiling the materials needed um to get under the bridge and start doing that uh that work under um
the I9 I95 overpass. Um, so that's going to be going on for a couple weeks, um, you know, into the winter and then once they finish up from there, uh, they'll be coming back in the spring, um, and be doing some, uh, planting, some receding, some hydro seeding and stuff like that.
Um, and then I, it sounds like we also, um, are going to be scheduling a volunteer, uh, planting opportunity, um, with some volunteers from some other organizations. >> Great. >> Okay. What's the What's the completion date? >> Do they have any issues? What was that?
>> Did they have any problems? >> Uh, not really. Uh, as they breached the dam, um, there was a pretty large wood timber in there. Um, which just kind of made it a little bit more difficult to break apart and things like that. Um,
the retaining wall that uh, abudded the dam itself, um, there's a little bit more than expected there. So, just some more material to kind of break up and haul off and things like that. Um, outside of that, I don't think they we we really ran into any any big issues.
>> Great. >> What What's the anticipated completion date, Mason? >> Uh, I I want to say it's it's end of January or February for the actual instream work and and the bridge work and things like that. Um, but then like I said, depending on, you know, the site
cleanup, receding and things like that, they're they're going to be coming back in the spring. >> Okay. So they could be there till July one. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Do they have any restrictions just on fish runs and stuff like that? Is uh
>> um what do you mean time? >> Well just yeah the time of year on the work that will be remaining. >> Yeah. So I think all the instream work has to be done by April 1, I believe. Um so springtime when when they start to see the fish move up and down the the river.
>> Okay. All right. Any anything else, Mason? >> Um, I think that's all. I I briefly mentioned to a couple board members that we may be getting a request um for a special meeting um since our next meeting is in December. Um the applicant
is trying to close out three old orders of conditions. Um two look like they were pretty simple projects um that we had the approved plans for. So that should be easy to tell whether the work was done in substantial completion or not. Um, and then there's one for the construction of a driveway, um, which we
don't have any record of. So, I think we have the order of conditions that was recorded on the registry of deeds, but no approved plan to go by. Um, so I think they're going to be um, you know, filing the the AA forms and getting those into me, uh, paying the fees and
then, like I said, possibly requesting a special meeting to try and get things closed out. Um, because I know that, um, you know, it's it's pending on the sale of the house. um and they they really want to get the the current homeowner um out and and into their new house.
>> My only suggestion is they need to have someone present that has the working knowledge of and can answer questions of, you know, the the open orders. >> Yeah, I can um I can see who's able to represent. I know the current homeowner
is an elderly woman um who I I don't know if she'd be able to explain in detail the the process and the process. There's going to be a closing attorney that's pushing to to get this. >> Yeah, definitely. I can I can make sure that they're present and able to speak on her behalf. >> Okay. Yeah.
>> You can confirm whether asbuilt plans are needed for this as part of the order of conditions. Sometimes we require asbuilts. >> Yep. >> How how old are the how what how far back do these uh orders go? Um, so
believe it's 07 and 09 or 07 and08. And then the newest one that we had just found out about today, which was the driveway. I think that's 1995 or 1996. So pretty old. I think the final number was like
something in the 300s. >> Okay. >> All right. Bob, >> what? What? That's older than you and me. >> I I know. Well, 90. >> Yeah, I wish 95 was my date of birth.
Okay. Anything else, Mason? >> Uh, no, that's all for me. >> Okay, let's go around to the members. Mary, any any comments or >> No question. >> Okay. Dave Clifford, welcome. Your first You get your feet wet tonight, brother. And uh Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
>> I think you had some real lucid questions. Yeah. No, it's a I'm thank you for uh glad to be part of the team. That's all I can say. >> Okay. >> Be a learning experience for me. So, be patient with me. So, >> thank you, David. Harry, how about
yourself? Any any words of wisdom? >> No. No, not tonight. Bob. >> Okay. Woody, what's going on with you? >> We don't have a special meeting. I wish everyone a safe and happy uh Thanksgiving holiday. >> Oh, yeah. >> All right. and Mick, we saved the best
for last. >> I'm just I'm just in the middle of duck season, Bob. So, that's all I'm thinking about. >> How do we And nice job, Bob, moving expediently through a very busy agenda. So, >> well, you know, again, I'm more about
the process. I really depend on you guys for, you know, to get into the nuts and bolts. I just want to, you know, keep it moving until all my pages stick together and I forget whether we're doing a certificate of compliance or Jesus >> tension or an RDA or
>> Oh god. All right. Well, I will uh it is now 7:34. >> Bob, is the next meeting uh December 2nd or is there are they every other week? Typically, >> typically they're every other week, David. But because of uh the holiday
season and concerns with travel and quorums, we're only meeting uh the first Monday, excuse me, first Tuesday of December and the first Tuesday of January. >> Will there be other meetings this month? >> Uh yeah, we have a No, no, this is it.
>> Yeah. No. >> Yeah. Normally >> we meet the first and third Tuesdays. >> Yeah. >> Right. Of each month. >> Yeah. Excuse me. It's November and December. Forget about January. I'm sorry. >> This is the only meeting. Our next meeting is December 2nd and and then
following is in January 6th. >> Very good. Thank you. >> Okay. Okay. I will entertain a motion to adjourn >> to move. >> Okay. Harry, Woody. All in favor? Mary, Woody, Frank. Harry
>> Dave Bob Connors Mason. >> Good night. Thank you everybody.