WEBVTT METADATA Video-Count: 1 Video-1: youtube.com/watch?v=5wL3Lmj9p6k NOTE MEETING SECTIONS: Part 1 (Video ID: 5wL3Lmj9p6k): - 00:00:07: Meeting Called to Order, Pledge of Allegiance - 00:00:43: Approval of April 9th and April 23rd Meeting Minutes - 00:05:44: Treasurer's Report: Porta-Potty, Donations, and Special Account - 00:08:26: Discussion on Period Mannequins and Clothing Display - 00:09:53: Website Report: Transition to Town Website - 00:14:09: Approaching Reverend Boland For Historical Audio Series - 00:16:40: Discussion and Scheduling Hearing for 25 High Street - 00:27:36: Timeline for Decision and Planning Public Hearing Protocol - 00:36:31: Advisory Role and Condition of 25 High Street Building - 00:43:56: Planning for 250th Celebration and Memorial Day Schoolhouse - 00:47:02: Purchasing New Mannequins and Kid Outfits for Display - 00:49:09: Remaining Budget, Printing and Possible Flowers - 00:50:14: Replacing Flags and Discussion on Stone Moving - 00:52:40: Handouts, 400th Celebration and First Landing Reenactment - 00:55:11: Leftover coins and motion to Adjourn Part: 1 1 00:00:07.759 --> 00:00:23.199 I call the meeting of the Newbury Historical Commission to order at 7:03 Thursday, May 14th. All rise for the pledge of allegiance. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the 2 00:00:23.199 --> 00:00:43.440 republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Everybody has two sets of minutes in the front of them. I hope >> we start out with April 9th first. 3 00:00:43.440 --> 00:03:20.000 >> Yeah, that's the biggest one. Nobody's already seen that one. any errors or omissions >> when you're ready. >> Yeah, it's a lot to go through. Sorry, but it was a very long meeting. >> It's a good one to hold on to. 4 00:03:20.000 --> 00:04:03.599 You see, I copied the DDB, the sections that we need that you were talking about in the meeting so that we could have them. Okay. Uh, I'll entertain a motion to accept them as written. >> Uh, I move that we accept the April 9th meeting minutes as written. 5 00:04:03.599 --> 00:05:20.240 >> Second. >> Second. >> All in favor? I. >> Wow. Thank goodness. >> Okay, let's go on to April 23 minutes. Any errors or omissions? >> Entertain a motion to accept the minutes 6 00:05:20.240 --> 00:05:44.479 as written. >> I move that we accept the April 23rd me meeting minutes as written. >> Second. >> Second. >> All in favor? I Okay, on to the treasures report one. >> Well, there's a change in the treasures report. 7 00:05:44.479 --> 00:06:00.479 >> Yay. >> Uh so the uh so the our general account, nothing has changed in there. We have put the restroom out, the portaotti is out of the site, so it'll be there for our cleanup day. Um and so on and just a 8 00:06:00.479 --> 00:06:17.039 note on that one. uh they were going to increase our the amount by $40 a month. I said if they did, I'd have to go back out for bid. >> That's true. >> And so they only increased it by five. And I said that's not worth the time to go out for bid cuz they were low before 9 00:06:17.039 --> 00:06:32.000 and I know everybody else has gone out more than $5 a month. >> Yeah. >> So we kept it and that's been installed. No, that's good. It's it's it's so clean and it's so not I mean people come in this this this thing you have is great. 10 00:06:32.000 --> 00:06:48.400 It's like you think it was the cleanest in the area. >> The old ones we used to have would blow over would catch them and blow them over. This is this is got a it's got a bigger footprint. >> Be excited about a porta body. >> Well, if you ever go across the street to where the boats are, that one is just 11 00:06:48.400 --> 00:07:05.840 disgusting. And so >> I will literally get off the boat when we're out on the boat and then drive over to the schoolhouse and pee over there because I won't use that one. >> So gifts and donations account, nothing has changed there. Special account. Um that's uh we've kept that in the uh in 12 00:07:05.840 --> 00:07:22.160 the uh treasurer's report every month. And I have an update uh that we were the reading the second paragraph in there or second uh sentence uh that we were unable to recover these funds in the 2025 town meeting but request was 13 00:07:22.160 --> 00:07:37.520 included in the May 26 town meeting warrant and passed oops passed. That's cute. I'll fix that. Uh but we will working with the town administration to have these funds restored to our special account at the beginning of fiscal year. 14 00:07:37.520 --> 00:07:54.720 My concern is that they don't get put into an annual account that has to be expended in one year. >> So, I want to back in a special account that that we can transfer the money over >> Yeah. >> Well, and now that they know how to contact you, that might be helpful. 15 00:07:54.720 --> 00:08:11.440 >> That's how that email resurfaced again. God. Uh anyway, because Tracy sent her her thing to to be to the 5-year-old email address. Now, >> I was like, whoa. So anyway, um >> I fixed mine this week. >> Yeah. So everything everything looks 16 00:08:11.440 --> 00:08:26.879 good here and then I'll keep and then I one thing that did come up for potential uses uh for the for that the special fund. I I mentioned last time that I looked into period mannequins that are not 59 17 00:08:26.879 --> 00:08:42.640 >> uh and period clothing and and reasonable prices >> really. And I' I've got something I'll I'll h pass around here, but uh uh that would be something we should consider, I think, because a lot of people have told me at least uh oh, you should have a few 18 00:08:42.640 --> 00:08:58.320 more kids in the thing or you should >> Yeah. more students. >> Yeah. More just make it a little more realistic. And having a a teacher 52 to 56 >> with with the right with the right clothing, I think, would really make a 19 00:08:58.320 --> 00:09:15.120 difference. So that's that's the treasur's report. >> Okay, we'll come back to that under new business. >> Yeah, I got it. >> So there's the one correction on the second to last. >> Write it off. Type up type that send you a digital version to that. >> Just add a P. 20 00:09:15.120 --> 00:09:30.240 >> Okay. Um do I hear a motion to accept the minutes as corrected? >> Uh minutes uh treasures. >> I move that we accept the uh treasures report as corrected. All second. >> All in favor? 21 00:09:30.240 --> 00:09:53.760 >> I I want to be correct. One >> I missed it. >> Instead of passed, it says as. >> Oh, sorry. >> So, >> oh, not appropriate. Okay. Um. 22 00:09:53.760 --> 00:10:10.320 >> All right. website report. >> Um, still ongoing on the new generation for it to be on the town website. Um, he mentioned again when I saw him, okay, was it last week? I didn't see him this 23 00:10:10.320 --> 00:10:26.320 week about dubbing all the old interviews and stuff. So, I'm going to try to get him. Every time I see him, he's always seems to be very, very overwhelmed and busy. But the goal is to I know the goal is to try to get those um tapes from the 24 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:41.760 library so we can get all those dubbed and so they can be put on the website. and that um we will be eventually shutting down the one that I built and it'll all be on the town website. Um 25 00:10:41.760 --> 00:10:57.200 which will be a little bit less exciting I think but still very functional cuz like that's kind of the goal is to make sure that you know some random person can find all the things. He's trying to make sure I don't think he's going to put our fun photos that we put up of 26 00:10:57.200 --> 00:11:12.560 like our grandparents again >> because he's telling me that basically it has a lot to do with like I he said ADA but it has to there's there's like um disability rules where if someone has 27 00:11:12.560 --> 00:11:28.160 you know like seeing or hearing issues that it has to have like I don't know why the photos matter cuz I was like oh if that means you can't have like the fun pictures that we picked of ourselves. But um there'll be a spot where it says like members and it'll just be like like so if you like hover 28 00:11:28.160 --> 00:11:44.560 over it there's a like audio or whatever. I don't know. I'm going to try to get them to reconsider that. But otherwise it'll be >> audio. >> Yeah. So like I guess it has something to do with like if so if you're >> accessibility like ADA so like if you can't see it has to be able to like describe it. I don't know 29 00:11:44.560 --> 00:12:00.560 >> because if you can't see how you hover over it. That's where I'm kind of like, why does it matter if the pictures aren't there? Like it says like Rebecca, but it's a picture. Like, what does it matter? But, um, but that was one thing that he said might not end up on the final page, which kind of bums me out a little bit. 30 00:12:00.560 --> 00:12:15.760 >> To be unkind, but if they can't see it, how will they know it's there? >> Or why does it matter? Right. I know. >> I mean, I know people who have sight and pit and >> I mean, I can't hear things most of the time. sort of what >> but otherwise um I think that's my my 31 00:12:15.760 --> 00:12:32.079 next goal with him is to try to make sure that all of the like audio tapes and and like interviews and stuff get dubbed. He's trying to do things inhouse and he says if anything is, you know, compromised, he can send it out, but he wants to be able to do most of it inhouse. So, um I'm just like waiting 32 00:12:32.079 --> 00:12:48.880 for him to have a moment of availability to like bring it over and start transferring them. Um, which I think will be good because I'm like that's we it's much better than being in a random drawer in the library. >> Um, but like I said the last meeting he said it was better that they were there 33 00:12:48.880 --> 00:13:04.079 then they they were still down the schoolhouse or something cuz this temperatures are fluctuating and things are really old. So >> well that's why we want to make sure that they're at least transferred soon so we don't lose the availability of them being on old tapes. Um, but yeah, 34 00:13:04.079 --> 00:13:19.519 that's going to be hopefully the next swing to have all those interviews up online and God willing that they're still actually, you know, listenable. >> Yeah, I wouldn't hold out. So, I know I put a lot of old tapes in and they're not good anymore. So, 35 00:13:19.519 --> 00:13:35.519 >> so we'll see. Knock on wood. >> What type of t tapes are >> I guess they're old interviews. There's some there's some cassette tapes and then there's some VHS's. Yeah. Um, and there I don't know exactly who's interviewed on each one, but there are apparently >> Yeah, there are places that'll restore those things because I 36 00:13:35.519 --> 00:13:52.000 >> I had some done from six 1960s and they're but >> yeah, little skinny tapes. He said that he's got a source but he wants to try to do as much as he can in house because obviously it's cheaper if he does it. Um, >> yeah, this was like a hundred bucks 10 years ago. >> Right. Right. Yeah, 37 00:13:52.000 --> 00:14:09.600 >> it's not cheap. I did my wedding tape recently and >> that's what mine was. It was a couple hundred >> mic from 69. >> Yeah, that's awesome. >> Yeah. >> But yeah, so that's my next kind of swing with him is to try to get all this stuff. >> I would write this down for your audio tapes is I would approach 38 00:14:09.600 --> 00:14:25.279 uh Reverend Boland, >> okay, >> about his audio history of Biffield audio series. I don't know how many tapes there are. Do you think there's a dozen? I have no idea. 39 00:14:25.279 --> 00:14:40.880 >> I listened to the Viking one. That was pretty interesting. >> He's such He's so good at telling stories, >> I think. And now before He's He's very old. >> Yeah. He's got to be in his 80s at this point. >> Um now's the time to if for somebody to 40 00:14:40.880 --> 00:14:55.920 say, "Sure, I'll just sign a thing releasing them to go on there because he would like to continue that." >> Okay. >> Because it was broadcasted on it was AM radio, right? It was on S. It was Saturday nights. >> Somebody gave me a cassette. That's all right. >> Really? 41 00:14:55.920 --> 00:15:12.240 >> Yeah. So, I've got like three of them. >> Okay. >> Um the rest of them are at the library. Uh obviously would have to get a release from him. Extremely good. >> Yeah. I mean, he's just he could just >> What was his name again? >> Put me to put me to bed. Reverend 42 00:15:12.240 --> 00:15:30.480 >> boy. Yeah. From Bfield Parish. He's um parish retired technically. >> Past Biffield Parish Church. >> I'm trying to think what they call him. him. >> Yeah, thank you. >> Um his him and his wife still live here in town. >> Yeah, >> I would. >> They're amazing. 43 00:15:30.480 --> 00:15:45.440 >> I would get >> stealing this for Go ahead. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> And that's it on the website. >> Basically, that's like my my goals right now is to get those get tapes up. >> Yeah. And I mean, I'm in there every week. So, >> Okay. Town Hall, 44 00:15:45.440 --> 00:16:01.040 >> right? So, if you know, if you want me to >> bring him over, >> get some or whatever, when he's going to be ready, he'll probably tell me. I told him. We didn't want to overwhelm him with bringing everything in. So, >> he was happy about that. >> No, every time I go over there, he's 45 00:16:01.040 --> 00:16:18.959 like digging in the wires in the back of something. >> So, that's it. He has to redo all these wires. The whole thing looks like spaghetti hanging off the ceiling in different colors. >> So, because of the upgrade with the new >> We're getting another new system. And the sad thing is the connection is here. 46 00:16:18.959 --> 00:16:40.959 >> Really? >> Yeah. >> Interesting. >> Okay. Correspondence. >> Well, we got the, as we all know, we got the that email from the town administer. >> That's not correspondence. >> What is it? >> That's old business. 47 00:16:40.959 --> 00:16:58.480 >> Okay. And I guess we don't have >> nothing. >> Well, you might have, but I don't know anymore cuz everything isn't >> okay. Um, >> correspondence anymore. >> So, next thing we need to do is establish the hearing for the schedule 48 00:16:58.480 --> 00:17:27.439 on 25 high. So, they brought my calendar with me here. this um so the first letter from the so I've conveyed them both to everyone the first 49 00:17:27.439 --> 00:17:45.600 letter was from Peter saying that he was not accepting our um our response of incomplete for the application and he says the application holds. So on and so on and so on. Then 50 00:17:45.600 --> 00:18:03.280 we scheduled a meeting and then we were told we couldn't have the meeting to schedule the meeting. And then starting again on May 12th, which is Tuesday, we get a another letter from Tracy 51 00:18:03.280 --> 00:18:19.280 saying that we need to immediately schedule meeting and have hearing. So, um, I spoke to Chrissy at the town hall today in reference. So, you've done a flow 52 00:18:19.280 --> 00:18:36.480 line here. I'm looking at this now. >> Um, so we need to see what your your research on the the uh the bylaw >> see jives with her. So, um 53 00:18:36.480 --> 00:18:53.760 I called her about procedure as far as advertising and the hall and she says that she has um she is recommending that we advertise on um June 3rd and June 54 00:18:53.760 --> 00:19:09.679 10th for >> for meeting on >> meeting on June 17th. >> June 17th. Okay. >> Yep. So, should we review your >> It's got to um the advertising in the 55 00:19:09.679 --> 00:19:25.840 newspaper has to be okay. It has to be within seven days of the date of the meeting. So, if we go the 10th for the second meeting of the 17th, >> it's all Wednesday. >> Okay. All right. So, this the the 56 00:19:25.840 --> 00:19:41.280 spacing um so we have to have two postings. They have to be certain amount of u so many days before >> 14 days before >> we have to put it on the town website a notice that we're going to have the 57 00:19:41.280 --> 00:19:57.679 meeting and we have to post it conspicuously in the town offices. I don't there's a bullet board right in front of the town clerk's office >> and then uh in that same time frame the 14 days before a letter has to go to the applicant which happens in this case to 58 00:19:57.679 --> 00:20:15.120 be the the um the select board um has to go to the chairman of the select board which is kind of redundant. We don't need to do that because it's going to the select board. Has to go to the building inspector and has to go to the uh town planner 59 00:20:15.120 --> 00:20:30.960 a certified US mail saying we're having this meeting on this date for this reason. Then we have the two notifications in the newspaper, one 14 days before and then one within seven days of the meeting. And I I gave Jan instructions 60 00:20:30.960 --> 00:20:47.440 how to how to set that up. It's it's pretty simple. The daily news website is really easy to navigate. >> So it goes it actually goes internally. Um we have a whole system at the town hall. >> Okay. >> Um and uh I have that set up now. >> Oh, okay. Good. 61 00:20:47.440 --> 00:21:02.880 >> To do the posting. >> Y >> So I don't know how they do they count the 17th as one of the days. >> I don't know. >> But I mean it's seven days. Wait till the 11th. the uh 62 00:21:02.880 --> 00:21:18.159 >> that that make it make sure that it's within the seven days no matter how they count it. Right. >> She's she's the one who's given it to us. So I think we're just going with it. >> All right. >> And and we're sure this is all calendar days and not business days. >> Well, 63 00:21:18.159 --> 00:21:36.039 >> it doesn't say it doesn't specify. >> Yeah. Doesn't specify business days. >> Just says just says days >> days or days. Yeah. >> Just I just didn't get >> Yep. No question. So, here is what I have gotten from Miss Chrissy. 64 00:21:37.200 --> 00:21:53.840 Ah, >> she's done it by color. >> She's being very helpful. >> She is because I see her every week and we >> help each other out wherever we can. >> So, she's done the last day to have the meeting is the 65 00:21:53.840 --> 00:22:12.799 18th. That's the dead the drop dead date. >> So she scheduled it for the 17th of June. >> So she says we can have a meeting here, here, or here. And these follow the pink ones. This follows the green the turquoise ones. And these are the orange 66 00:22:12.799 --> 00:22:26.960 dates for all the things that have to get done. >> Yep. >> So it's due on the 28th of March. No, sorry, May. Um the 3rd of June, the 10th of June, the 17th of June would be the meeting. if we do it on. See, she did 67 00:22:26.960 --> 00:22:45.440 all this stuff for me the other day. So, um, >> and it's 7. >> It's us to decide where we're going to start it, but that's all the dates. So, >> 7 p.m. like 700 p.m. in the town hall hearing room. 68 00:22:45.440 --> 00:23:02.799 >> Just going to put it in my calendar. >> Okay. So, that's the >> So, it just depends on where you want to go. What date are we going to use? >> So, post the time place uh town website. So, I imagine she'd be able to do that 69 00:23:02.799 --> 00:23:18.080 for us, too. >> I can do the put her on the town website. That's how I do the meeting every month. >> Okay. So, you're going to do it >> now that I finally figured out this new system, which apparently I know a little bit better than she does. And thanks. As >> long as someone knows how to do it. I know. 70 00:23:18.080 --> 00:23:40.480 >> And then doing the tech the new workbook news or whatever. Yep. >> Daily news. >> Yep. So Crystal will handle that. >> And uh so that's the website posting a 71 00:23:40.480 --> 00:24:14.320 conspicuous place in town office. and certified mail means we're giving them back to the same people who just gave them to us. >> We are, but that's what the letter of the law says. So rather than have 72 00:24:14.320 --> 00:24:29.679 some activist come and say that we didn't uh follow the law. We might as well just do it. I don't know what it costs for a certified letter these days. I haven't sent one about 30 years. >> At least 10 bucks. I've done those. Yeah. >> Oh, the the minute the um 73 00:24:29.679 --> 00:24:44.720 legal ads. >> Yeah. >> Hundreds. >> Are they really? >> Yeah. >> So, does that is that something we need to have lawn do because for like or bring the receipts in situation? >> No. 74 00:24:44.720 --> 00:25:01.840 >> So, no. It's the the newspaper is all handled by the building inspector's office. >> Oh, all right. >> So, >> when did you hear that? I'm sorry. >> When I spoke to her on the phone this afternoon. >> This afternoon. She said she's going to do all that. >> Yep. >> Yeah. Sweet. News to me. 75 00:25:01.840 --> 00:25:21.919 >> Yeah. >> So, the letters I will talk to her about the letters. >> So, I want to What's the letter have to say? Is it just the legal It just has to say what uh that when we're having the meeting, where it's going to be and and >> so it's just a notice. 76 00:25:21.919 --> 00:25:42.000 >> Yeah. And what the purpose of the meeting is >> we're using the one that she uses for >> meeting. It's not she has one she gave me. >> Yeah. that she uses for one of the other 77 00:25:42.000 --> 00:25:59.760 groups because she said it was better than and they have to do a lot of them. I think it's the um damn I can't remember what she's got like three groups. No, not >> all right. >> I had it all. 78 00:25:59.760 --> 00:26:15.679 >> Is there anything else? >> So, do we have to schedule the C? We have to notify the camera. I think it's mounted on the wall in there. Um, >> this is the information if you want. >> Yeah, there's definitely always a camera there. >> Anybody wants to look at this, this is 79 00:26:15.679 --> 00:26:32.159 the info we have to provide. >> Um, you mean the IT guy? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> I can mention it when I bring the camera back. >> Yeah. >> So, will you make a note to speak to him? Y >> I don't know if he automatically knows 80 00:26:32.159 --> 00:26:47.840 it because he's the one who runs the calendar, but Right. Um, just to double check. And the joy wants it to be live. >> How fun. >> So ask him about that >> makeup. 81 00:26:47.840 --> 00:27:04.960 >> When Lana asked to be live, they said no. So I don't >> really. All right. >> So I don't know. Um so handle that with him. >> Gotcha. >> Rich, is there anything else that we're supposed to be doing? >> I I think that covers it. 82 00:27:04.960 --> 00:27:36.159 >> Okay. And we have then we have the hearing and uh we make a determination after the hearing. >> After not during >> not during the hearing. No, we have a we have a separate I think we have a separate meeting. Hang on. >> Is that the brain? Probably. 83 00:27:36.159 --> 00:27:52.480 Within within 14 days after the final public hearing, the commission shall decide whether uh the structure should be preferably preserved. If agreed to in writing by the applicant, the determination of the commission may be postponed. 84 00:27:52.480 --> 00:28:07.600 So >> we should we should schedule a meeting for us for the commission >> within 14 days of the 17th of June. >> Might as well do that. That's like the >> We could do that. >> The thing is, 85 00:28:07.600 --> 00:28:22.399 >> there's stuff that we can do >> right away. So, >> yeah, >> the sooner we get >> that brings us >> everything in motion, the better. >> Reserve reserve the town hall or we can hold it here, too. >> Yep. >> So, it doesn't have to be on the 14th 86 00:28:22.399 --> 00:28:38.480 day. It could just be within the 14th within 14 days after the final public hearing. >> So, like All right. Because the 14 days is basically like Fourth of July weekend almost. So >> cool. >> I know the summer. >> We've never done we never we've never 87 00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:55.120 actually gone through a hearing. Um we have to remember what our role is in this >> one is we have to listen to everybody. >> Yes, >> I went to my class on public hearings. We can't in we can't stop anybody from 88 00:28:55.120 --> 00:29:10.960 talking >> or shorten anybody's time. Uh we do have to make sure that they stay on subject. >> Um >> do is there a a time limit that can be so they can talk they can filibuster? >> They can filibuster. >> Oh boy. 89 00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:27.039 >> They can filibuster and they can do whatever they want. Um as long as it is on topic. Mhm. >> Um, so we we're going to be there's going to be a situation is everybody's going to be 90 00:29:27.039 --> 00:29:43.760 looking to us on this building and this needs to be mirrored back is to everybody >> and what you this is the facts lawn. You need to have that that information sheet 91 00:29:43.760 --> 00:29:58.000 you made. >> Mhm. So, we need to have 25 of those printed. >> Okay. >> To be able to pass out to people that are >> everybody in the crowd should be able to get. >> Yeah. I mean, do we think we're going to have 25 people? Should he make more than that just in case? 92 00:29:58.000 --> 00:30:14.320 >> It's 25 high road. >> No. No. But >> no, it's 25 high road. >> You think there'll be lots of people? Is that what you're saying? >> I'll be amazed if there's more than 25 people that show up. >> Well, maybe not 25, but >> How many people were at the thing at the library? 93 00:30:14.320 --> 00:30:29.919 I don't remember way back. >> No, we we Jan and I went I'm sorry. Eva and I went to a meeting of the friends of 25. >> Yeah. And how there were probably 20 people there. >> Really? >> Yeah. >> Okay. 94 00:30:29.919 --> 00:30:45.679 >> I think there were really >> I don't even I don't >> You don't remember? I don't. Isn't that awful? When was that? >> We went to the meeting and the meeting was chaired by Leslie Matthews. >> Leslie. Was there 20 there? There probably 20 people there >> maybe. >> Yeah, 95 00:30:45.679 --> 00:31:01.120 >> counting us. >> Count us. >> Well, each of them will speak probably. >> So, whoever shows everybody they they need to come up with a plan fast and this needs to be redirected. >> It's not our board that is going to do 96 00:31:01.120 --> 00:31:14.960 this. >> We we are here for guidance and to make sure things are done correctly, >> but those people need to be redirected to the leaders of our town. Um, 97 00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:34.240 so we need to uh when when we we're here to feel we're here to feel procedural questions, >> what can be done um what you know what our thoughts are on it. Um, as far as the building, 98 00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:49.919 um, as far as its use and its age, it's really it's limited due to the due to the structure. Um, you can't you can't put you can't make the 99 00:31:49.919 --> 00:32:05.840 building bigger, heavier, taller, wider. That won't work without >> not on this foundation. >> Not on that foundation. Not. So, the question is, are you going to reconstruct it exactly the same is what I pretty much 100 00:32:05.840 --> 00:32:22.799 think our board would like to see. Um, unless it's going to be a another use, but of course, they've conveniently stopped using it. >> So, now the building's not up to code, >> right? So because the building has been taken 101 00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:38.799 out of use and is left dormant, everything that was grandfathered from HVAC codes, fire codes, sprinkler codes, foundation PSI ratings, all that was grandfathered, ADA, >> it's all void now, right? >> Parking numbers. 102 00:32:38.799 --> 00:32:54.000 >> Yep. >> Traffic flow numbers. >> Grandpa died. >> Everything from A to Z that was grandfathered is now gone. >> Yeah. So for um each one of those have to be examined on 103 00:32:54.000 --> 00:33:11.279 a one by one basis from A to Z to reuse it as a meeting building um or COA civic center um local building whatever. 104 00:33:11.279 --> 00:33:28.880 Um, so that that's that's the big elephant in the room is is you just we just can't move the furniture back in there. >> At the same time we're looking at this building, they seem to be doing just 105 00:33:28.880 --> 00:33:47.279 exactly opposite. But anyhow, um, >> so uh, >> yeah, >> can I make a comment on the meeting? >> Sure. I would think so we're going to be running the meeting, right? >> Yes. >> So we get I would suggest that we we we 106 00:33:47.279 --> 00:34:04.399 make a list what do we consider and preferably preserved. So the historical association, architectural importance, integrity of features, these things and then we invite the public then to make comments that will allow us to make a better 107 00:34:04.399 --> 00:34:20.480 determination of these five bullets or whatever whatever those bullets are. Just take those >> just even have them on the screen >> from the bylaw. >> Yeah. >> So everybody is on the same page >> then. >> Yeah. >> Go down through and say, you know, it's it's on the national. 108 00:34:20.480 --> 00:34:37.440 >> You could you could tell us you walked your dog past the place every day, but does it fit one of these criteria? >> Y. >> Yeah. And that's and that's so trying to get them to focus what information they feed us to make it useful in our determination. Again, just because you 109 00:34:37.440 --> 00:34:52.399 walk your dog past it every day is not going to >> that doesn't make it historic. >> It doesn't. Yeah. Give us give us some facts and Yeah. >> So anyway, that that would give a little guidance to >> I think I can safely say that our determination that is this is going to 110 00:34:52.399 --> 00:35:10.079 be uh preferably preserved. That's not going to be that'll that'll be the easy part. So then there'll be a demolition delay by demolition delay on that until >> unless we hear something extraordinary that convinces us otherwise which is the 111 00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:26.800 purpose of the public hearing. >> If somebody knows something that we don't know that changes what we've already expressed as our as our position on this then our position changes you know and that's the purpose of the hearing. >> Yes. >> Yeah. Yeah. If and if and if there's 112 00:35:26.800 --> 00:35:42.240 somebody that says something has drastically has to be done and also if we do vote it preferably preserved and at any any point um we can release it when we've deemed 113 00:35:42.240 --> 00:36:00.400 that there is no longer any effort >> to uh preserve the building. >> You don't have to wait the full nine months, right? >> You can you can intercept that. So, so at halfway through it, we can say, "Okay, um, whatever you guys are doing, 114 00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:16.079 u, nobody's doing anything, then there's there's no they I I don't think they I don't know if they have to write us a note or not, >> but that still can be changed." So, they um, we can do that. >> I just I just can't see the town voting 115 00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:31.599 to spend the money >> to to fix it, >> bring that up to the point where it could be used for anything. That's that's the that's the question. >> I hope that wasn't the goal. >> I hope that wasn't the goal to like let it get beyond repair. 116 00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:47.599 >> I don't I would not at all. I don't think so. >> I don't I don't personally think it was purposely done that way, but the space was no longer viable for the amount of people that are at town hall now. >> Right. >> Well, it was also the building was 117 00:36:47.599 --> 00:37:03.520 downright dangerous. He had toxic mold in there and he had all kinds of HVAC problems and leaking water and >> I'm not sure if you've been big enough if you fix it up, >> right? Well, that's the issue. It's like what's going to end up happening to it is going to be the, you know, is it just 118 00:37:03.520 --> 00:37:18.960 going to sit there and rot? That's not >> become the pink house, >> right? That's what I mean. >> That word I live in the pink house. >> That would be a big hole in the middle of downtown if you want to call it that. >> Yeah. So do we have any control over 119 00:37:18.960 --> 00:37:33.839 what goes there? >> No district. >> We're an advisory board. >> As far as >> um we can just write letters that we would like to see replaced with same I mean we see in all the towns especially 120 00:37:33.839 --> 00:37:50.160 out like the Birkshars and uh stuff. Now they're they're converting like a CVS Yeah. >> is now Cedar shingled. >> Yeah. They have a town where they have to put a Burger King downtown. They can fabricate a Burger King and it's all pre-made on their plans because they're 121 00:37:50.160 --> 00:38:05.839 having to do it everywhere now. >> They can make a Burger King out of wood. >> The McDonald's in Freeport, Maine is, you know, it looks like a a fishing machine. >> Well, that's what like I guess that's my concern like cuz it's a town building. So other than us trying to fix it, would we would they ever want to try to sell 122 00:38:05.839 --> 00:38:23.119 it to something like that outrageous so it becomes like a Starbucks but it's done so it looks like it's a building. You know what I mean? question. Now you got Now there's another question. Now we're taking a historic district and we are taking a a municipal piece of 123 00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:40.400 property and that we're that housed the town. Uh >> yeah. Well, cuz my only thought is now we're selling it to >> Yeah. to a corporation or something. >> Well, or whatever. >> Well, if they did it with the bank. >> Well, that's my point. So like if somebody was some big pocket the bank is 124 00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:55.920 something to point to saying >> then I'd be all for it. >> You know this is this is consistent with >> you didn't see the sign for the bank. You would not know >> unless you really looked high. I mean but your average person driving by would go, "Oh yeah, that red house is still 125 00:38:55.920 --> 00:39:11.119 there." >> Right. Right. >> It looks exactly They did an awesome job when they did that. >> I guess I guess my concern is that we don't have the we don't have the, you know, deep pockets to do it right. So then what happens? Do we find somebody with deep pockets to fix it 126 00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:29.520 >> or does it just sit there and rot away? >> It's still a town. It's still a town propert town property, right? >> I mean, it's just so much of this has to be directed back to the leaders of our town, >> right? >> And say, whoa, wait a minute. >> You are here to listen to us and we want 127 00:39:29.520 --> 00:39:44.000 we we want you to stop what you're doing because we don't like what you're doing. Mhm. >> And so that that's what has to be done >> now. That that became town property uh when when in 37 when they when they 128 00:39:44.000 --> 00:40:00.800 bought the the new new Graange Hall. >> So before that it belonged to >> the >> whatever the Graange was. Yeah. >> Okay. So that so they so the property has no longer history than the building 129 00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:16.000 as far as being >> well that we know we don't know >> as far as being municipal. Yeah. >> But I mean we we have no record what it was prior to Graange Hall was >> so before 19 anything else historically significant. 130 00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:31.520 >> Was a field that wasn't even a road there. >> Wasn't wasn't a cemetery or anything. >> Just a field. This an empty spot. >> Yeah. Before they put the um >> the original Graange. >> Yeah. >> The big big >> before they put the um housing 131 00:40:31.520 --> 00:40:46.880 development in there. What do they call it? Montgomery Park. That's when they put that road through there. >> Gotcha. >> Prior to that, it was just part of that house. It was just pasture. >> Gotcha. >> There's a picture around here somewhere. >> Yeah. Where it's There's like nothing behind it, 132 00:40:46.880 --> 00:41:01.119 >> right? this. >> It's all it's the little things that change that if you haven't been here, you don't notice like that you can't drive >> from the go like right out from the gas station and go on that side of >> the training green the green cuz it's 133 00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:16.800 not there. You it's blocked off anymore. >> Yeah. >> But it's those little things like that. But I mean >> the you looked at the foundation, did you not say that you had looked at that prior? >> No, I looked I looked I didn't look at it personally. I I read about it. It's 134 00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:33.599 got there's a part of it stone, >> part of it cinder block, and part of it poured concrete. >> And I would imagine the junctions are interesting >> in timbers that show sign of >> of fire. >> Fire. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, some of the apparently some of the 135 00:41:33.599 --> 00:41:48.960 the sills or the plates >> uh look like they may have been original to the building. >> Oh. Oh, they reused them. >> Do you think there's any reason for us to do a walk through? >> It wouldn't hurt. I I kind of think >> it would be nice to be say we did 136 00:41:48.960 --> 00:42:05.200 >> wear your mask, wear your N95 >> because I you know I've talked to a few people that have been through and they're like you walk in there and it smells smells good and there's no mold there's no you know you got to see it. >> Yeah. I we've got all kinds of >> I'm sure you can walk through and it's you don't notice it, but if you sit in 137 00:42:05.200 --> 00:42:20.640 there and you work there for two weeks or whatever. >> And I had a girlfriend that worked at a veterinarian clinic and she was getting sick for months and she realized that the HVAC was blowing mold on her and she had to quit because she was getting sick from the mold. >> I don't know if you remember the police dispatcher 138 00:42:20.640 --> 00:42:36.960 >> had time off of work because she got sick from being bitten by the flies coming up out of the drains. >> Oh, really? >> Yeah. >> It was awful and awful. So, we should wear our armor when we go. But I I I would not be the want to be the one that in the hearing uh had to answer the 139 00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:53.680 question and somebody said, "Have you taken a tour of the building?" And I I would not be want to be the one that said no prior to the meeting. >> So, who do we have? >> Who can you get who we have? >> Who has access to the building? >> I guess who has access to the building? You know what I mean? 140 00:42:53.680 --> 00:43:11.760 >> TPW. You should really do it >> at least a majority. Third, you know, third, what do you call it? >> I have information and there's six of us. >> Chief Fine, Senator, I thought I saw it today. >> Interesting. >> I thought I saw it today, too. 141 00:43:11.760 --> 00:43:27.440 >> We don't have an odd number. >> So much. >> It's on one of the two emails I printed. >> So, majority is four. >> Have a dissenting vote, so >> Well, I'm saying at least at least four of us should tour it is what I was getting. Yeah. I never realized that. Never thought 142 00:43:27.440 --> 00:43:43.119 about it. >> We still have another chair. >> We'd love another person. >> Did you guys go over a change to the what you were going to say for the public hearing thing that's going in the paper? >> No, it's uh Chrissy, you already wrote 143 00:43:43.119 --> 00:43:56.800 it all. >> Yeah, it's right here. >> Yes. >> Okay, >> I've got it. >> Um >> All right. So, you don't have the motion on any of what we just did? >> No. No, there's nothing. >> It's all discussion. 144 00:43:56.800 --> 00:44:15.760 >> Okay. Um, next subject, uh, June meeting. That's just up in the air. >> Um, anything with 250th celebration. >> I was thinking, >> yeah. >> Um, >> you know, for the the um 145 00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:31.359 the Liberty Pole is is definitely a a possibility. Um I don't know if they're planning on doing anything on the the upper green in terms of you know the McDonald stuff or anything like that. >> I think we are they >> we are they 146 00:44:31.359 --> 00:44:47.440 >> I think we are they >> because there are you know there are >> um troops they could muster there, you know, reenactors who we could contact and see. >> I wonder if there's anybody available short. >> I know it's it's short notice and these people have been planning this stuff for a long time. 147 00:44:47.440 --> 00:45:04.319 >> Look at that and see. I know that the um Essex County uh Essex Heritage Area is planning um some another big battle scene at um stage 4 in >> Foster. Um so that that'll eat up a 148 00:45:04.319 --> 00:45:20.800 bunch. Last time when they did the reenactment at at stage four of the um uh of the Battle of Bunker Hill, um they had a thousand reenactors. >> Oh wow. I haven't been to one of those in a while. Last one. It was on the thing that 149 00:45:20.800 --> 00:45:40.319 Lauren did. >> Previous it. >> I do. You do. >> I don't know. I was thinking like having t-shirts or something. I think >> 400 more exciting. You know what I mean? 150 00:45:40.319 --> 00:45:57.680 And no offense to 250, but if we're going to like do a new berry one, I'd rather it be extra old 400. Kind of like those Bfield shirts where it says where's Bfield. >> There's a couple there are a couple of 151 00:45:57.680 --> 00:46:13.520 little things. Um we're opening schoolhouse. >> Yep. >> For the Memorial Day. I mean, was that the right word? Memorial Day weekend. >> Yes. >> Losing track of what day it is. And we're gonna go um that Tuesday >> the time. >> 10. 152 00:46:13.520 --> 00:46:29.520 >> Um >> what do we have here? We might as well go the 19th. >> And I have a 10 my >> put down 10. >> I have Sunday. >> I have Sunday on Tuesdays. >> See if I can dump them. >> That's the info. >> Just bring him. We'll just hang him hang 153 00:46:29.520 --> 00:46:46.079 out with him. >> Don't. >> He ran away from me. I had to call the police. >> Really? Oh, what is that? >> Hey, I'm on 43 disappeared. Two kids. Yeah, it's gone. >> You don't want this, right? Camera quarter mile. >> You got to get one of those like dog trackers. Just like put a dog tracker 154 00:46:46.079 --> 00:47:02.079 on, you know. >> Worst part is I watched him on the security camera after. >> All right. So, every time I yelled, I turned around and looked >> on 250th. Did we already move past that? You said >> you have any other ideas? So, another thing a lot of towns are doing is >> I was wondering if we could 155 00:47:02.079 --> 00:47:18.560 >> get her make a decision and go ahead get some mannequins. >> I I say go for it. >> Mannequins a 5'5 in female. Uh there's one here that looked pretty good. It was 300 and one was 287. >> What do we do with the the girl we have? Should we try to resell her on 156 00:47:18.560 --> 00:47:35.599 Craigslist or something? Try to make >> better. We could take her off at the knees and stick her in the boots. >> Do you want to You want to I don't know. Can I get my boots back? >> I want >> You want it for the store? >> Um, this is the one I liked. 157 00:47:35.599 --> 00:47:50.560 >> That's perfect. >> the best. >> It's gray. >> Uh, >> so the clothing would all fit. >> Yeah. >> Well, that's the thing, right? >> Yeah. See, that's the problem. I I could always get old clothing, but our mannequins were always too big. >> Right. Right. 158 00:47:50.560 --> 00:48:06.480 >> But you can buy >> the right >> short female. It says, >> "Yeah, >> short female 55 55 and there, you know, they appear to be about 300." >> So the >> And we actually have money left from the budget that's not allocated for our 159 00:48:06.480 --> 00:48:21.440 general fun. >> Do they make a cover? We're always looking for a bag big enough to go over the mannequin's head. How about it? >> You know, some kind of like a slip cover that goes over >> Oh, >> that protects them. We just want it for the winter. So, well, we can figure that 160 00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:37.760 out. I could always make some, but I mean we can we can uh All right. >> Well, let I'll look into the whole thing. I'll I and and I want to get out outfits for the kids, too. >> Sure. And how many kids you going to get? Like two more kids? >> What do you think? Four. Have four kids. >> Four kids. >> Four kids probably. 161 00:48:37.760 --> 00:48:54.240 >> That's what that's what that's what somebody and I would. >> We can always just like keep adding kids over the years. We don't need to do like a whole classroom. >> You got to have room for kids though, too. >> Five, I think. But four that are full. >> Yeah. We just like, you know, >> just try to count by blend them in. fundamental. >> I'll put together a recommended complete 162 00:48:54.240 --> 00:49:09.520 package and just email it to people >> and then we could we can't decide. >> I think we've already voted. >> Yeah, we're good. >> You have full authority to go. >> Okay. Well, I'll let everybody know what I'm spending so you could stop me. It's all 163 00:49:09.520 --> 00:49:26.240 >> You want to get That's fine. But >> right, >> so you've got the end of this budget to use up, >> right? And then when you start in the next fiscal year, you're going to use it out of special, >> right? >> Because we want to we want to use that >> because that'll be part of 250th 164 00:49:26.240 --> 00:49:41.200 celebration, >> right? >> So that'll be coming out of there. >> Yeah. >> Um so you follow me there. >> Yep. >> Okay. >> And then I'll know when I usually when we do the cleanup, I usually go through and take an inventory of what needs to be printed. >> Yeah. >> And I'll do that. So, the really only 165 00:49:41.200 --> 00:49:57.520 expense that we have left on the list is is printing materials for this for the end of the summer. Yep. >> And I think I went nuts last year. I was going to say I feel like you have a lot. >> I think we have enough for the whole year. I won't have to >> nothing. >> I feel I had a lot of money. 166 00:49:57.520 --> 00:50:14.559 >> Maybe some flowers this year for the >> jazz jazz up the building a little. >> Oh, in front. Well, we the the poor tree is is only a foot high now. >> Well, that's what I mean. Like to add a little bit more color. Yeah, I know. So then you get water. That's the problem. That's always the problem with the 167 00:50:14.559 --> 00:50:30.960 watering cuz there's no water there. >> How's the flag pole and flag pole light and flag? >> Uh do we need the flag? The flags are unhappy. I should probably >> get a new flag for this year. >> Yeah, especially since it's 250. >> Now, is there a special 250 flag? I see. 168 00:50:30.960 --> 00:50:46.960 I see. >> I see a lot of them. Yeah, >> it's a C. It's a >> Oh, 26. >> It's not a flag. 13 star circle. >> What do they call it when it's on the back of a boat? It has the name >> So, it looks like the So, let's get the 169 00:50:46.960 --> 00:51:03.440 26 appropriate flag. >> Oh, you can actually buy the buy a flag with that emblem on it. >> Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah, I've seen the emblem >> cuz I was going to I was going to use it and and and there's this big warning, you know, use it at your own risk because of lawsuits. 170 00:51:03.440 --> 00:51:20.480 >> Oh, really? >> Yeah. Yeah. Well, somebody's put it together and but if you buy it on a flag, somebody's got permission. >> Yeah. Well, surf the internet, see what you come up with. >> Yeah, sure. I'm sure the the flag piece that I go to, >> you should the new flag, a 250 flag, and 171 00:51:20.480 --> 00:51:35.920 the American flag. >> Wow. Okay. >> Three flags. >> Yeah. >> Because at the end of the year, we'll be going back again, >> right? >> So, we should have a new flag then. >> Okay. >> Spend our money. >> The only place to get the other flag is >> at the library. >> Spend the money. They braid. Yeah. 172 00:51:35.920 --> 00:51:51.200 >> Write it down. >> I got I won't forget. I won't forget. >> I new flag >> town. >> Okay. >> Plural. Next subject. Uh, which stone moving? >> You ask. >> Yeah. What's up with James? 173 00:51:51.200 --> 00:52:07.920 >> I don't know. >> We have to go to Tracy. We went to Tracy. Now we got to go back to James. But we James has already been given the information that I gave to Tracy, right? >> Which he was given this last part. >> So I think so too. There's another stone care company. >> I can do any kind of alteration as you 174 00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:24.200 will need. We got a little portable machine. >> You can bring it right down there. >> So, anything like that I if you if there's a need, just let me know. >> Some of them are too >> fluffy and 175 00:52:24.720 --> 00:52:40.720 that looks lovely. >> Sounds good. >> Good. Wow. I was going to say, does she need an apron that you're mentioning? >> No. No. What >> would a school mom wear? Are they No, >> I need >> Look at the pictures. >> Do they have >> pictures we've got now 176 00:52:40.720 --> 00:52:56.800 >> for >> with all the chalk dust. I don't think she won. >> I would just think like they only had they only had so many outfits. So like you had your your >> a 17th, >> right? Toth your fake sleeves. So you just off, >> right? 177 00:52:56.800 --> 00:53:13.760 >> I've got I may I may work on this. >> You're doing the website. I'm doing the conspicuous place, three letters and the newspaper. >> See, I have I have three handouts. >> Yeah. >> So maybe I should combine. 178 00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:30.880 >> Totally up to you. >> 400. >> I know we have time. >> I am too. But >> this one this one talks about and the importance and this one talks about >> that's what we did on 375th and they were from 179 00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:49.760 >> this is more about rowing club or whatever called >> there's a rowing club that gives us all the boats. >> Okay. >> It's uh >> I wasn't involved in that. I was actually at the museum that time. >> Yes. There's a there's a rowing club 180 00:53:49.760 --> 00:54:06.000 that that that did it with us because I was I was rowing one of the boats. >> What? >> It's a whole club. >> And what was that for? >> The 375th. >> No, I'm talking about what was the rowing of the boats for? >> Oh, for the reenactment of the first landing. Yes. >> Ah, okay. I figured after we we got this 181 00:54:06.000 --> 00:54:22.640 all taken care of. I'll bring in what I I was thinking for the 400. Yeah. >> Just so you guys can look at it. >> I'm not worried about the 400. >> No. Well, I we get a star. You don't think you're going to be around? Come on. >> You want to be 89. 182 00:54:22.640 --> 00:54:37.440 >> Or is it that close? >> It's not that far away. >> We did a tremendous amount of stuff. We had concerts. We had orchestras. We had a very large house tours. We had the pilgrimage landing 183 00:54:37.440 --> 00:54:54.720 um and the lower green festival where we had all sorts of stuff. the chicken barbecue. Um, just it went on. That should be the vibe. You know, kids kids playing the old games that kids used to play in those days with the hoops 184 00:54:54.720 --> 00:55:11.200 cup and ball and all that stuff. >> Yeah, the hay stacks was part of it. >> Yeah. >> So, that was another thing. >> Yeah. And the coins. >> Oh, so I was here then already cuz I remember the hay stack. >> I don't think we want to do coins again, we leftover coins. >> Well, people bought the coins and the money from the buying of the coins. We 185 00:55:11.200 --> 00:55:27.280 have coins thing, didn't it? Wasn't that with the >> coins left? I've never seen >> in the file cabinet. >> Silver, gold, >> I thought they were in the silver bought. >> I thought they were in the town office. 186 00:55:27.280 --> 00:55:42.319 There were some coins left and they were in the town. Some of the things, >> do you remember which ones they at the 350th 375th? They really didn't do anything. They gave some of the cheap ones out. So it was the 350th. >> So they still 187 00:55:42.319 --> 00:55:59.760 >> that had they still buy I I think just >> 30 I think I'm trying to remember but I stop that confusion. >> Whatever I entertain a motion to adjurnn. I move that we adjourn. 188 00:55:59.760 --> 00:56:06.880 >> I'll see if I can second. I'll second it. Okay. >> All in favor? I me.