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Call the meeting of the Newbury Historical Commission to order June 25th, 7:00 p.m. All rise for the Pledge of Allegiance. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation

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under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Because these these are my favorite minutes. Thank you. Those are my favorites. If you have If you have a correction, this this is a serious problem.

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Now what am I going to say? Now I'm glued. >> So this is the one we called it order then we adjourned. >> Yeah. But I still had to do it because we had a meeting >> Don't we have We had a meeting after that, didn't we? >> Yes, we did. >> Okay, get another You're on that. All right. One at a time.

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>> And this is why I send this stuff to you guys. So in other words, it's a complete waste of my time. >> Well, I usually print it out and bring it, but then you give me another copy when I get here. Today my printer won't talk to me. >> State 14? No, it's 30

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>> Switched all my communication to the Wi-Fi too. Well, you can >> Google >> This meeting, the next meeting of the Historical Commission >> Should be in >> on May 7th. >> We have a website for the Historical Commission meeting. >> Um so this was the >> are May 7th. >> Yeah.

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He was still learning how to do this. Probably will be May 7th. >> That can't be right. >> I have more than one email. >> Trove of five. >> Sync them. >> Mark them off, yeah. >> Google Workspace now. So, now I have to open each one. >> Yep, yep, yep.

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See, that's how I would do something. That's today. >> From this? >> Yeah. >> Um >> Cuz that's a a commission a commission meeting in a public >> Yeah, but it can't be a public >> at a >> Yeah, at this time in on May 7th. >> what? >> May 7th. We need to vote on May 7th.

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Is everybody waiting on me? >> I think so. >> Oh, okay. I entertain a motion to >> No, we got to fix the 5/7. >> So, we adjourn next meeting in the historical commission should be on Thursday, May 7th. And that we we're saying that on May 7th. So, that can't be right.

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>> was a mistake. >> Attitude problem. >> That's poor Keith. All right. So, May 7th. >> Okay. >> The next meeting was the 14th, right? >> The 14th. >> Make that the 14th. >> 5 14. >> Good catch. >> Okay. Good catch.

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All right. Motion to accept Thursday, May 7th. >> I move that we accept the meetings of the May 7th meeting as amended. >> Second. >> Lawn on the second. All in favor. >> Aye. >> Okay, everybody pick up May 14th.

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>> Excuse me. >> What was that? >> And this is picture someone to do that. >> Yeah, I'm just saying though. >> Two whole pages. >> Yeah. >> What was that part where I said it should be reading for three days? >> Yeah. What was that cute little thing?

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What was that thing? >> Okay. Any errors or omissions in the minutes? >> Um website report first end of the first paragraph there will no longer be used. And the last sentence is in this

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sentence. This sentence doesn't make sense. >> There are apparently can have potential problems. >> I I still don't know what it's going to say, so I can't correct it. >> Me either. >> Um Let's think about what was I saying? >> You were probably saying because the

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photos some of the photos the pixelation because I took them from the original website. And so they were saved. He was saying like can I try to find crisper like better pictures written of some things not like some of these I have no idea where they came from. It was like >> Well, it could be because it says it could be potential problems.

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>> there it should just say comma >> Yeah, instead of there are there >> Yeah, apparently take the arrow out. Yeah. >> Okay, I just I didn't know what to how to edit that anymore. It was >> Yeah, so that makes that makes much more sense. >> Yeah. >> And and the word not should be no.

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>> Yeah. >> No longer used. That's all I had. That's all I had. >> Okay, there it is. >> Okay. >> You did ask me for 25 copies at the meeting. I'm sorry. >> All right, with

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corrections made, do I hear a motion to accept with corrections? >> I move that we accept the May 14th minutes as corrected. >> Second. >> Second. >> All on the second, all in favor? >> Aye. >> Aye.

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>> Uh treasurer's report. >> The treasurer's report, running into some difficulty, my computer stopped working this afternoon, but I have the numbers cuz I've got the old report and and I know what I did this week. So uh

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So what Well, I made a deposit of uh $55 and uh on this week in the cash fund and that brings the >> [snorts] >> total there up to $2,967.65. Um the final billing I'm I'm closing the

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books out this week and next week. Uh final billing from the porta potty from Restop was was $1,102.39. Our estimated cost was $1,000. I was $2.39 off. >> You're good.

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>> Well, when you consider I I I see when the kids are coming in and I put it in and I see when the kids leave and then I put I pull it out at the end of the year and we're $2.39 away and it went up $5 on top of it. Anyway, so the

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So basically the we So we have not counting the things I've been buying this week, we we still had 900 basically available for the mannequins and the braces and stuff. I'm having a problem with the mannequin, the one that I was going to buy. Once I Once I actually tried to

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place the order, came back as out of stock. >> So now I've got to scramble because it's not easy finding a 5 5 female mannequin. And then I did find out. So. >> Okay. >> And I mean that looks it's, you know, doesn't look like it's you know this

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that from this doesn't look like it's from the 70s, right? For my tabletops and stuff, right? Anyway. >> So you're up against the clock. >> The 7th. >> All right. Oh yeah. I'll I'll I'll I'll be able to get it. >> Make sure there's no holidays or broken

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water pipes in the town hall preventing you from getting in there. >> Well, it doesn't matter as long as I spend the money. I just have to get my computer working so well I can use my wife's. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. >> But don't you have to have the invoices in? >> No. Oh no. No, I just have to have the money spent.

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They usually give you a week 10 days something like that. I have I have received that in the mail. >> that always happens in accounting. 30th is the end of the month and that's when stuff is all supposed to be in, but nobody can tell the vendors they have to go backwards and make sure you

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But they're dated for the order of the previous fiscal. So it's all right. >> That's what I did. I I called up Fresh Start and I said, "Close Close our account out as of the 30th of June. Send me the bill." I paid it. And then it'll start it'll

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It's not going to move. It's going to stay there. But and then it'll start up on the 1st of July and go until we kill it in the fall. >> Got you. >> But I do that every year. >> All right. Lower Green Historic District. >> Not much going on there right now.

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We haven't We haven't met since the the meeting. The process that's going on in the background is just through the town and it's getting all these documents registered and stuff. And I haven't heard anything on them setting up a committee. >> So

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this I This is my question about that. Um when we met like four three or four months ago, we discussed on how it would flow the potential that the board members of this board would be the board members of the other

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board at least core members. >> Yeah. >> And the meeting would as follow. Um now the way the town voted on it, it's going to be a mixture of historic commission members and other

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outside members. Therefore, the meeting will be completely separate. >> And that was always a potential that they did do that. All we said was if you want to get this thing going, we'll fill the we'll fill the

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the the vacant the empty empty spaces out of the historic commission. But they they still they didn't have to accept that. >> Okay. >> Yeah. So, I I I I don't cuz the line for me the door. >> Did you get on the agenda?

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>> Oh, as long as you have plenty of people, I we we were under the impression that it would be the opposite. >> Right. Me, too. Yeah. >> Good. It's nice to know that. >> just saying don't let this stop the process. >> Yeah. >> Because because we'll just step over in mass and fill all the slots and and you

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could just then then you can run it forward. Cuz they're they're going to have to have names and all that other stuff really to establish. But it's right now at least I I'm not handling them. Now that Robert's working with the town. But uh

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they have to all these the bylaws to be registered, whatever that means. So, that's what they're working on. >> Okay. And that was per Tracy who just said? >> Whoever's doing it at the town hall. I would I would guess that these through her under the direction.

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>> Okay. Um website report. >> We're still kind of on the same path. I'm We reading this and remembering that I forgot to reach out to the reverend and I need to do that. >> I would get on that. >> Yeah. I think I started to look for his website or his email and I didn't find

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it and then I I haven't got back to it. But so I need to I think reach out to the people that I know cuz I know a couple of them who would probably have his direct con- contact information. >> Yeah. So far as I know they still are living here. >> Oh yeah, absolutely. Every now and then

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he does a service so it's it's just I'm sure the the the current pastor would have the contact. Well, yeah, that and one of the dads from my son's baseball team is heavily involved in the church. I just keep forgetting to ask. Getting to ask Jay. >> Cuz I bet he would love to have it on

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continuing his legacy. So. Um. >> But yes, other than that. >> Okay. 25 High Road review so we'll be doing that under old business. Um.

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Witch Stone uh old business. And then correspondence. Correspondence. What do we have for correspondence? >> New correspondence? >> Nothing in the mail? >> No, everything you tell me everything

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that I thought was correspondence isn't correspondence so >> Okay. So nothing from anybody on the outside. >> I don't think there was anything. >> Okay. Uh old business. Um. 25 High Road is on the first of the

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list. So now is the point where we look at our documents for 25 High Road. We had our public hearing.

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Uh we had I counted 30 people in total. Um we had good communication at the meeting. Uh lots of uh speakers and good questions. And

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um I see no reason to hear uh have a second hearing. That was optional. >> Mhm. >> Um Do you think we need to vote on that? >> Yeah. Won't hurt. >> Yeah. >> Safe side.

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>> Yeah. >> Just go ahead and vote on that. >> Okay, that'll open the discussion. Um all right, somebody please make an uh motion. >> Um I move that we forego any further public hearing on 25 High Road.

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>> I'll second that. >> Second, Rebecca. All in favor. >> Aye. >> Okay. >> I have a question on that. Uh what what if we get emails? On that topic. >> Wondering if we're going to have one.

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>> We will we haven't had a we'll have have a meeting. Can we throw those new emails in the file? >> So after we vote in a minute >> we just voted not to have a hearing. That's >> Right. So after we vote in a minute on

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uh preferably preserved um that >> that right now? >> Yes. >> Oh, I can do that. >> Yeah. >> Okay, so we're going to have a special meeting. >> So um after we do that in 1 minute, then that pretty much seals I go to the building inspector, send him

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a letter that says the building has been deemed preferably preserved and the demolition permit needs to be held for uh 9 months. And >> During this time, they're supposed to be doing stuff. >> Right. >> Yes.

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>> Put the sign down. >> So uh Yeah, we can talk about now what we have on top of our tongues here. >> So, the things that need to be done is the building needs to be secured and maintained in this 9-month period.

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Fairly obvious that town DPW is already doing it. Um and if the board I don't know if the it's at any point the board can talk to the clerk at the DPW

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and see about touring the building. Um we also once we finish tonight um we'll see what else happens with the town administrator as far as is there any more discussion of what they're

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going to do with the building. She sent me a small email saying congratulations on the meeting and we're looking forward to working with the historical commission about the future building. I don't know what that means. >> There's supposed to be

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things going on that they do and but but it's not clear to me who is tracking the things that the applicant is doing. Is this a town track that or does the historic commission track that? >> Like for example what? >> Um

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looking for alternatives to uh carrying it down, finding a different use for it, moving it somewhere else. >> Well, it is still it's not I don't think it's it's not now. It's the person that's concerned with the building. Uh

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I'm still here making a path, so we're going over it together. Th- th- if this was a the house across the street um it's being delayed for 9 months. >> And it was one of us that the town >> And and the

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so this gives them whoever is interested in the preservation of the building, be it the house across the street or the house over there, needs to work with the owner

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to find an alternative to tearing the building down. So, No. So, the owner of the building is the town of Newbury. Now, this is a little different circumstances now that it is

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the town that actually owns the building and there are 30 people or more that came to the meeting and more about the town that don't want to see this building torn torn down. Now,

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I fairly confident that the correct movement of action is is to contact your selectmen. Because it is still the selectmen that ultimately control this building.

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Discussion over the town administrator law and all this stuff, still the selectmen have say. So, people that want to see this building preserved, 25 High Road, need to contact

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the selectmen. They maybe they want to go as a group or to the get on the agenda for the selectmen's meeting. But, our role basically, as I said at the last meeting, is the referee.

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Now, if nobody steps forward and does anything in 9 months, then the permit will be granted. In this 9 months, the people that want to see this building saved, reused, repurposed, or duplicated need to

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uh, with the selectmen and make clear um, what they want done with the building. So, um, there's no time to waste cuz this is going to be time-consuming. Do they still do half hours in the summer?

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The selectmen's meetings? Jan, do you remember? >> Half hours. >> They every other week? >> Oh. >> If they used to do that. >> They did. >> Yeah. >> That should be the answer for whether I know. >> Yeah. >> All right. So, >> Everybody wasn't here as long as you've

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been here. >> Well, it's wasn't that far along. >> No, but I mean that they might be >> So, another reason that time is of the essence in 9 months. Um, so, the so, the the

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whoever is interested needs to form and pull together and come up with an idea of what to do. Myself, I >> I mean, I would think that they need an architect to draw up plans and then they would need funds to pay said architect

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and they would those funds would need to be voted on at a town meeting, right? >> Yes, but you you really it's they don't there's no mission yet. They said, uh, uh, uh, a function hall, a meeting hall, Council on the Aging. Well,

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>> Like if it was just given it to us like that, it doesn't have to be like full on drawings. You know what I mean? Just I guess I'm I'm just trying to think of like what were >> There there's >> expected to see. >> So, the the people that have approached me don't they only have a a basic idea.

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Somebody wants the Council on Aging there. Somebody wants a meeting hall there. Uh, somebody I don't know what else. A lot of people just don't want to see it torn down because it's part of the architectural and historical value of the upper green in the town of Newbury.

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All this needs to go to the selectmen. And the ability to approach the selectmen is not as easy as it used to be. This is why you're the selectmen's email addresses are all on the town website. So, you can ask

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for you can contact them independently at any point. There's no rules broken. Because you can't really speak at the meeting unless you get on the agenda. And getting on the agenda is a whole process. So,

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yes, but somebody has to come up with a plan what they want to do. And even and if and if there is no plan what they want to do, then that the plan is is not to tear the building down until we come up with a plan. And like I repeated myself at the

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meeting saying reproducing the building may be the plan. I think it's and and something from there. >> Or at least reproducing the part which is the green. >> Three uh three sides. >> Yeah.

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>> Three sides. That's what That's what they did with the Hamilton time. >> We read 7.4B in the in the bylaw. It's talking about whose responsibility is to take actions during the 9-month period. Says "For at least 6 months or this is during the 9-month delay period of the

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commission's termination that the structure is perfectly preserved. Commission can advise building commissioner in writing to issue demolition person without waiting. Okay. But for at least the first 6 months the owner and if if he can show that the owner has made the owner being the town

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now owner has made continuing bona fide and reasonable efforts to locate a purchaser to preserve, rehabilitate, restore, or relocate the subject structure. So, those are the things that are supposed to be going on. >> Right. >> And and and >> Within the first 6 months

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>> that's between the people that want to save it and the town. It's I don't think that's the historical commission. knows. It's In in case, it's the town in two ways because it's the town is doing the negotiations and they're the owner. >> Right. Well, they definitely need to come up with a

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new name. >> Yeah, if you go if you go to 5-1 and then 7-1 through 7-4, it's all that's what we should send I think after this after this meeting after the vote is is send this to the town saying here's your responsibility. >> the town.

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>> Huh? >> It's on the town website. >> I know. >> Just saying. It is on the town website. >> He just wants to reiterate. >> I think we should go on record and say, "Here it is and it's on the town trip site." Then cuz then because then we can say

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we've got it done our part. >> So, are we ready to vote? >> Well, it goes to if it has to go to town meeting, it's in 9 months. >> What does that mean? That's So, does that mean like if I wrote to this selectman starting with 1635 and and this being a

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cattle rearing company to start that this is how important the agricultural >> The Grange was. >> was the Grange was and and and like you pointed out at the at the public hearing, the people that come to

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Newbury for the history >> Yes. >> I mean we we don't have anything. You come into town, we got the schoolhouse. But there's no place for anybody to access that history or see a piece of that history. We've got the the books, I mean the the old books. I think they've

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already been sold away. Right? When they allowed somebody to to copy them, we don't no longer have the rights to those I don't think. But it doesn't matter. People still would want to pick them up in there. >> Yeah. >> And I don't know how much the clerk does

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for that kind of work. >> Yeah. Well, we're constantly approached with people trying to donate our artifacts and we always have to say, "This is the schoolhouse. We can't accept anymore. That's already here. We don't want anymore." Um so, maybe that is when

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people uh donate stuff, or maybe a big painting. >> Yeah, it's already full. >> Or even as big the Maybe that's where some of the maps should go. >> Right. Or even some place that you have a display that changes out. I know people have things in their homes that they'd love to display for a couple

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of months and then just take them away. Or just For people that come in from out of town, I think it's important for visitors to see the old stuff. >> Yep. >> Our books are just so precious. They really are. They're so old and so well preserved. >> to have somebody guard them, though.

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>> Well, you you'd you'd duplicate them. You The The originals wouldn't be in there. >> Right. The >> have them duplicated or electronic and duplicated. But in the And the other thing is the other pitching point is is we don't we don't have enough places to have meetings in this town. And Jan can attest to how difficult it is to get a

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meeting room uh on a regular basis in this town because we've only got you got the one room in the town hall and you've got one room in the library and this. And this is about to be under construction, so this is off the list. So, where are we all Where are all these boards going to

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>> Like an animal shelter or something. >> senior center and a community center in one in one structure. It and you can't get a room in there anymore. >> Yeah. >> It's It is There's always something going day and night. And and and and and they can make money

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off of it. They charge people at night. >> Right, right. >> Yeah, they don't charge the seniors to go in, but Yeah, but see uh >> Lon, back to your original question about the last of the by- demolition bylaw. Uh I I would like you to craft that

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>> Oh, okay. >> in a letter >> Excuse me, give me my computer back. >> Let's see if he's a computer going. Um to be sent to the Board of address it to the board of selectmen. And next meeting >> You want me to bring it okay.

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>> No, you can bring it to the meeting. >> Oh, >> Next meeting >> Okay, good. >> Next meeting the board will vote on it. >> Yeah. >> Either modify it or send it as is. Jan will transcribe it on the uh stationary and send it to the board of selectmen.

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>> And another comment before we vote. I think I I would like to read this and we all nod our heads on it. Because right now we're all getting ready to vote on something that we could have discussed. So, and this is the core criteria for a

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preferably preserved designation. Number one, historical association. The building is importantly linked to historic persons, events, or broad architectural, cultural, economic, social history of the town, state, or nation. I would say that's probably

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>> Definitely got that covered. >> Architectural importance. That's 1.8. Architectural importance. The structure embodies distinctive characteristics of a specific architectural type, period, style, method of construction that includes work by a noted architect. I

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would say that's probably not true, but it's structure, style, and blah blah blah is what people are expecting to see on that site. So, it's kind of a it's probably a yes on that. Integrity of the features. Commission evaluates how much of the original

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historic fabric remains including the general design, arrangement, texture, and materials. I don't know how we would vote on >> What are you reading from? >> I'm from the 1.8. It's the the stuff for for preferably preserved. And then context and setting of the

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building contributes to the familiar visual feature of a neighborhood or it's contextually similar to nearby buildings in federal or local historic district. That's certainly true. Public interest. The commission finds that it is in the public interest to preserve,

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rehabilitate, or restore rather than demolish it. That's the public interest. So, those are those are the core criteria. And and I think the majority of them probably apply to this structure. So, so we've got some criteria to when

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we before we do this or this. So, so now it's in the record. >> Where did you get that? >> I don't know. >> I don't need it. >> That doesn't match what I've what I've got in the bylaw here. >> It's not part of the thing that's on the computer.

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When I say on the computer, I'm talking about it's on the computer. >> [cough] >> This is the final version of the bylaw. >> Okay. >> And 1.8 site guidelines. >> Um actually goes >> What's 1.8? >> Preferably preserve. >> Preferably preserve any structure that's been determined by the commission to be in public interest to preserve.

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>> Okay. Oh, this So, I just went in and Okay, so these aren't written there cuz this is the stuff you're supposed I probably wouldn't have stated it that way. >> What's written here, just to make sure that we we got it. Okay. Uh is that significant any structure or portion there of which meets one of the following criteria.

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Uh one, it's it is identified in the assessor's records as having been constructed prior to 1820. >> We're on 1.9 now. >> Yeah. 1.9 B, it is listed or on or is within an area listed on the National Register of Historic Places. Yes, that one is true.

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9 C, it has been found eligible >> [cough] >> in the National Register of Historic Places, which is kind of redundant. Um D, it is identified by the commission as having association with one or more historic persons, events, or the broad architectural, cultural, political, economic, agricultural, or social

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history of the town. Um so, political and agricultural both ring the bell on that one. >> But Okay, we'll finish with you. >> Okay. E, it is identified by the commission as historically or architecturally important in terms of period style, method of construction, or

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association with a recognized architect or builder, either by itself or in contra in context of group structures. So, >> Those are Those are the criteria for significant structure. >> That's the Those are the criteria for a significant structure. Um I think it's in the National Register

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of Historic Places, uh which means that it's eligible for the National Register of Historic Places, and it also um is um identified >> [laughter] >> as having um um architectural or having cultural,

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political, economic, agricultural, and social history of the town or the Commonwealth. So, I mean, right there. I mean, that's all we need. In in my view. >> that's for significant structure, but I but but since we >> What we're voting on tonight is whether

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or >> went into significant structure, we should look at the criteria that that would have normally gotten it there. >> Well, those are the criteria. >> Right. I don't know. >> Okay. And um >> But we're voting on preferably preserved. >> We're voting That's right. We're voting

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on preferably preserved. >> Did I I I thought that I got this out of here. I bet I got this off of the state. >> Okay. >> It could be. >> So, are we ready? >> So, that's the They're saying that's the kind of thing you should consider. >> Right. >> So, the motion should include 1.8.

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Uh is there anything else other than 1.8 that should be read as part of the motion? >> Uh the stuff after that is is more on what Once we vote, what the next steps are. >> Okay. >> And remind me we have to do um

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com- discussion. >> Okay. >> Once the motion stop, I'm going to make the motion. >> So, is the motion simply to to um to vote on whether or not it's preferably preserved. >> Yeah. >> Oh.

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Yes. >> Okay. >> So, I would think the motion should include uh 1.8 when the motion is made by the first volunteer. >> You want to do You want to do it the other way? >> A few things.

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I move that we um we designate 25 High Road >> as preferably preserved in that it is a significant structure that has been determined by the commission to be in the public interest to preserve.

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>> Is there a second? >> Second. >> Is there a second? We've got the second. Now we go into discussion. Um is there any questions, comments, or discussion about this motion?

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>> Preferably preferably preserved but that would include duplicated. >> All right. >> Pre- as pre- preferably preserved um we have to follow the town bylaw. So, this

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the definition of preferably preserved >> [cough] >> um I I think we should >> reference 1.8 and 1.9. >> We did. >> Oh. >> Did Did you I believe you in in the motion.

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>> Cuz preserved could mean a lot of things. >> Well, you know, the building itself is >> Well, for for our purposes, if you look at um at 7.4b, um it says um the owner has made continuing bonafide and reasonable efforts to

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locate a purchaser to preserve, rehabilitate, restore, or relocate the subject structure. So >> Okay. >> Rehabilitate can mean all kinds of things. >> Yeah, I don't want them to re- re- move it. >> So >> I don't think it could be moved. >> So to answer your question,

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we are working within the boundaries of the town bylaw. So uh Rich just pointed out uh >> What does it say? >> It says the owner should make continuing bonafide >> preserve, rehabilitate, restore >> Right. or relocate.

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>> So So it doesn't say duplicate. That was >> No. >> Um >> Yeah, that was my question. >> So it says rehabilitate, preserve

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7.4 is what I'm reading from. >> Okay. During the 9-month delay. >> Well, we can't can't we can't mod- we have to follow the town bylaw. So we can't modify that. Um

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Anything in the 9 months can be done. It's not it's not limited to So um We are basically like I said the referee that are going to officiate 9 months starting this week. Um

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We by following the town bylaw. Uh replicate is not in there. I think it This is something that was going to be done with the selectmen. It's rehabilitate, restore, um There's To answer your direct question,

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there's no way I can put replicate in there as much as it should be if we ever updated this bylaw. Um but I think it's the whole general direction. >> Right. And then I mean with rehabilitate get into the finer points of you know,

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if there's one stick from the original structure, is that really >> 10% rule. >> 10% >> 10% rule. 10% rule. So, all right, we have a motion on the floor. All right, we have a second. Is there any other discussion?

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>> Are we adding 1.9 to the motion? >> No, I think we've already covered that. >> You said I didn't hear it. >> We covered it in previous meetings. We said it was significant. >> So, we've we've already All right, yeah. >> We've already jumped that up. >> already voted it is significant.

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>> Right. Now we're >> I know. >> Yeah. I and now >> I'm only referencing that because you because the building didn't have to go through any evaluation. It just automatically is significant. >> Well, right, but we're we've already voted that it's significant in the previous meeting.

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All we're voting on now is whether or not this significant structure is preferably preserved under the terms of the bylaw. >> Okay. >> All right, so 1.9 doesn't get into >> So, there's some more additions we need to do on the bylaw. We got to put some criteria in for for preserve.

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>> You write those notes down, okay? Cuz um I'll forget doing this. >> Okay. >> So, Ann, you've read 1.9 in the meeting and it's recorded on the camera. Um >> Okay, that's good. >> Okay, I'm going to call a vote. All in favor? >> I.

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>> I. Any against? Silence. It's unanimous. Chair, please record that. I mean clerk. >> I don't think anybody in the room would disagree with that vote. >> So, Lon, you're going to write the

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letter to the selectmen for next month. I will send an email to the building commissioner tonight. And get that out of the way. Um >> To the select board? Yeah. We're sending a letter to the select board. >> bring it to the meeting. >> Come to the meeting to be

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>> with the letter. >> approved and then sent from the meeting. >> And you'll send it. >> So, July meeting, you'll review it and send it. >> Okay, I had a question then. We're supposed to have a meeting on the 1st of July.

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I said Thursday the 1st of July. >> It's supposed to be 2 weeks after the last meeting. It's the 14th after the public >> Within 14 days. This is that meeting. >> So, our our meeting is that meeting? >> No. >> Our meeting would be >> We don't need a special meeting to do the vote that we just did.

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>> I'm asking. >> Right. >> So >> So, we don't need a July 1st meeting. >> Okay. >> The next meeting will be the second >> Thursday. >> Yeah, which is the 9th. >> okay. >> I remember we were we were talking about that on Thursday. I was confused. I'm like, "When are we going to have it? Are we going to have it on the 1st?" >> Yeah.

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>> It's within It's not 14 >> days. >> We voted that already that we don't need a second public meeting. >> Right. Public hearing. >> hearing. >> Public hearing. So, there's nothing else we have to do. >> Nope. >> All right, then send the letter >> Yeah. >> Communicate.

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>> Reminding them what they're doing. >> is addressed to the selectmen. Um Now, we need a The stir commission is now a coach to anybody that wants information or direction

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on 25 High Road is is for their efforts. So, if people come, there's correspondence, if somebody's speaking to a board member about it, then they need to get on our agenda.

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But, it's really not We're not We're not doing There's not a lot that we can do. >> We're not going to do a design. We're going to look at a design and decide if it's appropriate, right? >> That's what I'm hoping. >> Did Lawn's thing get on the website?

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>> Yeah, right after right after meeting. >> So they can be directed to the website. >> It's the town website, not our website. It's like underneath all the base, the link. >> Town website, okay. So it's on the town website. The all the historical and

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architectural information about 25 High Road is on the town website. So now everybody has access to it. >> You're saying not our website, you mean not the 1635 website. >> It's our section our section of the

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town website. That's important, I think, to differentiate. >> When you keep saying our, you mean 1635. >> Well, yeah. >> Which is a separate entity completely. >> people would be going to the town website. >> Right. If they're looking for No, there wasn't 1635.

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>> I didn't want them to try to like dig around in there. It was just easier or direct. >> So So Lawn did all the research on that, all the timeline, all the information, what I was reading from at the last at the hearing is all there.

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Um and yes, so this is going to be uh It needs to be a fast moving shakedown of exactly what they're going to do. Um and and but the selectmen need to be front and center in this. This is This is their >> They are the owners. >> Yes, they are the owners.

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They can't just keep >> So what if they can't find anybody to invest in it? That's going to be my question. >> It's different than It's different than a house [snorts] where it's a It's a owner. This is a municipality.

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So it basically it doesn't Uh the the people of the town are the the townspeople are the owner. And the townspeople elect the selectman and give them directions. And it in order to give them directions, they need to be heard. So, the the selectman need to be

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contacted and said, "We want to have the Council on Aging there. We want to have a meeting hall there. We want this." Or we want this done. And then it needs to be addressed. And there's there's ways of with so many signatures, you can be on a

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schedule on a into a meeting with so many schedules, you can you can have them have a town meeting about it. So, it depends on what you want to do and how many people you get to do it. Um it can be done.

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So, that that's but >> very intrigued to see what ends up happening. >> But it's going to require people with energy. >> Yeah. >> And they're and they're going to have to they're going to have to have meetings and they're going to have to pull together fast. Um and and they're and they're going to

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have and everybody that talks to you, you're going to say to them, "Have you sent How many emails have you sent to your selectman?" And said, "Send this here. I want to see this. I want this here. Um we're having a meeting at the library the sixth is on this day. We want the

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select We want to select you to come there. We want to address you." But uh the problem is is they've got there's like three or four different ideas and the fifth idea is we just don't want it torn down. All right. Well, >> Yeah. >> This is the next step. I I don't have

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all those answers. We've got it stopped for 9 months. And now we are uh a board of a board that will help anybody who wants help um the best we can.

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>> All right. Now, how do we get the word out there? For people to to to write to the selectman. >> Um >> Letter to the editor? >> Newspaper letter to the editor or just get a hold of one of the reporters and say, "We had our meeting the other

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night. Here's what we voted on." And >> And now it's up to the selectmen or the public. >> It's up to the public to persuade >> Ronaldi was the reporter. Uh she came to the hearing. The girl with the laptop. Um I'm sure she'll be glad to

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um speak to anybody and I'm sure that uh there'll be an article about this in the Advocate tonight. Uh tied in. So obviously we need to watch our P's and Q's when you speak in public that you're not representing the board. You're really you're a resident.

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Um I should hope that they had one meeting at the library. They need to get direction. They need to pick a direction. >> Yeah. >> So apparently the um Council on Aging thing is being pulled off into a different direction. Um they need to decide what direction

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they're going to go. They need to pick an approach. >> Yeah. >> And then they need to start working on it. >> But I wonder if this would be the next target for the cuz the um the the off Kent Way area that they asked for $250,000 to do a feasibility

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study. They didn't get that money. So >> Right. Well, that's where I'm thinking of like >> So if they're if if they're thinking of alternatives for Council on Aging, this one kind of jumps out at you. >> Mhm. >> Well, they need the They still need the money. And and it would definitely be cheaper

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just to send a bulldozer in and and then put the building back if you like the way it looked than it than it would to jack it up, pour a new foundation, refurbish all the stuff, get rid of all the rotten wood, get rid of all the lead paint. >> You went through all the the things that

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are no longer in when we went with the wife at the meeting. Did you >> Yeah, they had asbestos mediation and mold remediation and >> Yeah, I mean there's too many remediations. >> So the Yeah. >> Cuz that's the total of the building cost. >> But now you're back into the budgetary

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place and I mean it took 14 years to build the police station as building inspector says, so uh and we need to >> And we still don't have a town hall. >> We don't have a town hall. We don't have a fire station yet, either. So >> And and constantly playing with this one is just a sin. >> I know you know >> That's just my personal opinion. Has

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nothing >> to do with the historic commission. >> I I was surprised, too, this was said to me the fact that we're the only town that doesn't own their town hall. >> That was kind of a kick in the teeth. >> to >> I was like, "Oh >> Yeah, I I'd like to fact check that. >> I didn't know that. >> So the the uh there Now that you bring

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that up, uh that last uh chapter in the bylaw along this board actually does have a mission to make sure that it is uh the town hall is uh sealed and maintained uh for at least the 9 months. >> Yeah. >> Um

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I mean this this 9-month stay is not just 9 months. It's the beginning. But if the Board of Selectmen withdraw their application and say, "Okay, we're going to table this." Obviously, there's plenty of people who don't want this building to run down.

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>> Yeah, and then it can go on forever. >> um then it can wait. >> Yeah. >> And wait >> they apply for another permit and the whole process starts again. >> starts again. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> So >> That's the only control we have is the demolition permit. >> So in the in the meantime, whether it's

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9 months or not, this board should make sure that the building's being taken care of, not as it is written in the bylaw, demolition by neglect. >> Yeah. >> So yeah. >> their mind and like try to sell the property We probably wouldn't want to do that,

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right? If they wanted to do >> No, cuz you want it to look >> Right. Well, that's what I'm nervous about. That's what I'm nervous about. That's what I'm nervous about. >> Yeah. >> It's like you mean sell the town hall to an outside? >> Yeah. >> Oh, I'm not sure if I'm selling the property. >> The attorney of the town said that they have no intention of selling. >> Well, that doesn't mean nothing.

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>> Right, that those that can change in my mind. >> Yeah, and that was the select board that said >> They can make anything look good. >> All right. So, all right, so we've done all that. Um What other things are under old

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business? We have nothing from the the five things with the DPW, any movement at all? >> You saw the I sent an email to James about the proposed the painting proposal asking him if if could we save a little money if we didn't have him paint the doors cuz those really got to just be

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restored or replaced. I mean they're so far gone at this point. And not do the the six big window frames cuz I did those last year. And I haven't heard peep out of them since then. >> Our stones look a little shabby, shabby too. Have you Did you try contacting the

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admin? It just looks like it needs to be weed whacked and >> Yeah. >> What is it? >> Yeah, I I got I tried to I contacted No, my attempts to contact James have been through the uh email that's on the town's website. >> I would assume that's what you use.

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>> Yeah, uh and so if he's not responding I you know >> down there with some coffee and try to get him to do some work. >> Well, I guess call he's he has an administrative secretary that's out there. Okay, 40 hours a week. Yeah. Call

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her up and go. >> And Fred says to me Fred Thurlough stopped by last weekend and told me that those hedges, the bushes, the lilacs need to be cut away from the building. It they look good, but somebody needs to

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cut them so they're not >> touching the building, yeah. >> I have them I do that pretty regularly. >> And he thought, yeah, but he made he wanted to make sure we knew that. >> All right. >> Yeah, I could I could do that. This is easy. >> Come back down to the ground. If they're going to paint the building, they didn't want them out of the way. Frankly.

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>> They actually look nice though. >> Oh, it'll be great when they finally get it. >> they're almost impossible to kill. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Hedged out. Maybe it doesn't get so tall and lanky next time. Keep them at a like a nice >> Yeah, go go go before is where we cut them off. They were that stem is where pieces were this big around. Right. So

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that looked pretty pretty ugly sitting there. So if we keep these trimmed and and the height, you know, they'll just be branches. Yeah, so it won't look so >> Which I'm fine with. >> Yeah, I like it. Hasn't had a haircut in >> Do we have anything else under old business? Anything else we're working on?

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>> Um yeah, I haven't made any progress on moving the stone. So I got to I'll get on that. >> Okay, so you've got the You've got the two the name of the two people in my field. >> Um >> And also the um the contractor who did

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the subdivision who did the the last move of the stone to where it is now. So I'm going to contact those three. >> Yep. >> But for I know preferably I would go with the contractor who >> Are you >> who moved it first cuz he already moved it once successfully. >> Yeah, I know.

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>> Yeah, and maybe he's just just like, oh yeah, yeah, we'll send somebody down there on a Friday or something to do it or something. >> Uh the fact that now that we know they've already moved it once then that that relieves a lot of stress about that. >> Right. >> Um >> And and then they're on the thing for real for you pay vendor list.

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>> Okay. >> Yep. >> That helps. >> So >> they're on the vendor list. >> Well, if they moved it before >> No, they they >> Oh, but somebody for somebody else. >> They they moved it >> For the property >> for as part of the the development >> I got it. >> of um

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>> So they're not on >> Or is that Fieldstone Drive, Fieldstone Way? Like that. >> Uh different subject. I spoke to Bill Bill the Selectman uh chairman uh Bill Demeo about the uh Dave Mountain Park at the dam,

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the fact that it's not being maintained. They dedicated that stone bench to him, and all the the all the shrubbery has grown over. It's taken over. There's poison ivy everywhere. >> This is the one on Central Street? >> Central Street at the dam. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. The grass is this tall. Poison ivy

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everywhere. You can't get in there at all. >> You can't even see the bench. >> I was just saying I didn't even know there was a bench there. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's all the sidewalk. They dedicated it I don't know about 6 years ago. They dedicated the bench. His name's in it. Um and it's just an overgrown mess in

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there now. Um so put a bug in his ear about that. >> Where is it? I didn't >> Central Street at the dam. >> Okay. Thanks. So on your side or the other side? >> Other side. >> Other side. I have to go look then.

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>> So Do we have uh so the painting we've covered. The alarm system's on an uh existing list. >> Somebody asked me when I was at school the other day if we could do Venmo cuz they wanted to give us a donation, but they wanted to Venmo and I was like I

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doubt we can do that. But do you know if there's any way for us to connect a Venmo account to our like checking account or something? >> Well, we can that would be that would be easier I would think. We don't have a >> The Venmo thing Helen asked about. >> the town.

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>> Yeah, but well that's my question because she like wanted to Venmo and I was like I don't want to like do it through me and >> do it. I'm I'm the treasurer. I could have it in my name. When the money comes in, I just deposit it. Because we don't have a town account. >> it could say like historic historic commission Newbury or something as like

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as the handle or whatever it is. >> Yeah, and then because I think everybody nobody has cash anymore. >> Yeah. Friends of the library do Venmo, they do PayPal, and they do Apple Pay. >> Cuz you know, that might be an easier a for us to >> they asking this person?

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>> They wanted to do a donation. You could tell that they were you know I don't know how much she didn't tell me how much she wanted to do, but she was wanted to get she didn't have cash on her. So, she asked me if you guys have a Venmo account to do a donation and I said honestly we don't. I said I I have

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my own personal one, but you know, I don't want you I didn't want I didn't want to feel comfortable being like send it to me, you know, like Well, that's what I'm saying. I had no idea. I told her I'd bring it up at the meeting. >> It's a can of worms. I mean if it was meant a lot of money, I would say okay

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send a letter to the uh assistant administrator and ask uh if this is okay, but I it can't go to somebody's just would have to go to an escrow account. >> Well, that's I guess that's my question. It's like how >> I mean the money goes in the box. And I take it out.

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The money would go into Venmo and I take it out. >> Right. >> But it all has to be hand hand delivered to the to the window at at at at town hall. >> Right. >> So so so so what I'll ask is is it kosher for me to have a Venmo account, take the money and then physically

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deposit the actual cash? >> Right. Either way or ask if there's a way for us to have one for the commission. >> It'd be nice to have a little little button. Or just have >> A donate button on >> Or a QR code. >> Or a QR code. Just have a little QR code. >> Well, now that you talk about it, I'm

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sure Triton has it. >> Well, that's what I'm saying. There there's got to be. There's got to be. >> All right. So, let's go and do the research. >> Yeah. Can you check into it? Cuz then I think that's a great way for us to like >> Just just have a little QR code sitting there next to it. You you got the money

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in the box. >> Yeah. >> And then have a QR code sitting there and you just go And then we got five bucks. Whatever they put in. >> They looked They looked all off. And I was like I wish I had one. I don't. >> Or somebody goes somebody who through that 1635 website says, "This is really cool. This is something my mom would

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support." >> I sent them 100 Or exactly. Monthly donations. >> A lot of people >> [laughter] >> feel that way. Tourism this year is up huge. Huge right now. And they don't know what it is. >> [laughter] >> So On the same electronic discussion group

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uh you had talked about a Facebook page before. >> Yes, I know. >> So but I wanted to add a comment that I went to another historical commission town of South Shore um about uh

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my great uncle was the Norwood Diner and uh trying to get information from that town's historical commission's contact through the Facebook page. And I sent them a very nice letter on their contact thing on the the Facebook page. It's been 9 months now. >> No, they

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>> Nothing. So it's important that if you're ever going to set it up, you have to have a system where you're somebody's checking >> notifications and >> Notification. It has to be nothing more embarrassing. So the electronic world now uh I was talking to our website guy this

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week talking about AI. So now our antique shop is being People are being directed to our antique shop by AI. >> Yeah. >> And giving them tours and telling them what to buy for their house. This is like wow, I can't even figure this all out. And this and he I talked to my

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website I said, "Are you up to date on this AI stuff?" He says, "It It's It'll work on its own and it's all about participation." >> Yeah. >> It's your your existence on the internet and your movement and you how much you

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post and how much you interact with the internet is how AI will find you and how it will rate you. The more traffic you have, the more AI you're going to get. So AI is now in the tourism. So, another

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reason to have a continued presence on there to grow it. The reason The reason to have more scans on there and have more data information on there. So, apparently, as much as I AI is looking at all the

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social platforms, including your your website. >> build your website. >> Yeah, it gathers data. That's the best way to describe it. >> Absolutely. >> And and analyze it. >> Yeah, but it's the analyzing that is not always 100% even close to being >> The problem with AI is it always wants

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to give an answer. >> Yeah. >> And sometimes it speculates. >> I I want to listen to to what they have to >> Yeah. I don't trust anything I've seen so far on AI because I have to look it up and say that has nothing to do with us. >> So, continuous same subject, customer went

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to Spencer Peirce this week. And I said, "Did you go to the schoolhouse down the street?" Said, "No, we didn't know anything about it." What's at Spencer Peirce? Do we have anything there? Should we have >> I did have a couple that were at the schoolhouse and they were on their way to Spencer Peirce. This place

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>> Are they selling like is there any sort of like flyers >> Is there a card rack at Spencer Peirce? >> know. Is Is Spencer Peirce part of the the mall or no? >> No, that's It's a >> Is it a separate entity? >> Yeah. >> Do Do they have like tri-folds? >> Isn't that new person?

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>> Or Or we have a bi-fold. >> That's right. There's There's that new person that we met who was in charge of Spencer Peirce Little Farm and Coffin House, which I'm >> I finally got to get to the Coffin House. >> We can just give them a stack of our of our of our uh >> Isn't there an informa- Isn't there a place downtown Newburyport, too? >> Yes.

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>> can put them down on the boardwalk. >> Right Right down by the parking lot. >> Yeah, it's really cool. It's a hut or something. >> Yeah. Even though it's electronic era, card racks are still all over the highways of America. >> Definitely. And people like to sit down at the end of the day and look through their stuff.

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>> Yeah, their collectibles. >> So, maybe it's time we make a card. >> Yeah. >> Laminated card. I'm sure this You know what we're talking Everybody saw a card. It's What is it? 11 and 1/2 by 4 or something like

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that. Okay. So, every information booth in America has got giant So, there's the one in Virginia I stopped at the Civil War thing. The card rack room was bigger than this room. Yeah. Um and it and the hotels now have them. So, you see a little change back from electronic gear.

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>> We have a visitor center on 95 when you come into Massachusetts from New Hampshire. >> The New Hampshire one or the Massachusetts one? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> We've got the We've got the postcard that shows the schoolhouse. It's in in the in the monotone and in the colored version.

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>> we could yeah, we could bring a bunch of them. >> You just need to You need to make it into the card size. >> [laughter] >> Well, we can put those at like Spencer Pierce and things like that. Like, you know, maybe >> you mean by What card in what way? >> So, all these information places, they they have to be universal size. >> Uh what is it?

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>> Like the generic >> I think it's 8 and 1/2 by 4. I think it's 8 and 1/2 by 4. >> 8 and 1/2 uh >> Oh, that's longer than ours. Okay. >> 8 and 1/2 >> So, so this is 8 and 1/2. So, 8 and 1/2 by 4 would be like that. >> All right. So, somebody should check on it before you order them.

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>> Ours are about like this, our cards. It's a postcard. And that's a standard postcard. >> But the information is on there uh not landscape. >> Uh >> portrait. >> Portrait. Yeah. >> Front and back. >> Yeah. >> Sons and Daughters has a good one that

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we have at the schoolhouse. >> I mean, it's pretty easy to make. >> Yeah. >> They fit. >> I'm sure there's plenty of companies that'll make them. I think you I think we ought to get on that. >> I do I do these all the time for for the other groups for other groups. >> I think you should pitch it national

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company, one that makes 1 million a day. But uh because they can do it a lot cheaper and you're going to find >> Oh, free cost. Okay. >> Um, so yeah, you're going to find companies all around America >> Yeah, I think it's I have to get a bid anyway, but >> Uh, yes, if you want to broker it through Minuteman because of the

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billing, then that's fine, but Uh, I would have three prices or something. >> Yeah, so uh, so we're we're not going to call it a postcard, we're going to call it like an information card. >> Yeah. Card rack card. >> And then uh, check on check on the size.

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>> Yeah, look at the one in the school those with the Something dollars of Jackson Hole in the House. They have one. >> The long skinny one. >> Yeah, the long skinny one. Is that picture horizontal? >> is horizontal. >> Yeah, it's not vertical. >> So >> Maybe you should push a picture pop into

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the Coffin and Spencer and whatever >> going to be in the Coffin House on >> Yeah, they don't have a >> Tuesday, I think. >> They don't have a rack. >> No, nothing in there. >> No, I mean, they don't. >> And we can buy a rack and we can have a rack. >> And also Moon >> Yes. >> I believe has a rack.

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>> Do they? >> I think so. I think I know they have a place where they sell books and I think there's a rack right next to that. >> In the hallway? >> Yeah. >> All right. >> They might be. Well, they got a rack. >> Disperse our little

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>> Yes, connect electronic and paper. Paper is still prevailing. So, I I I would work on that. I would grab it just if if you could pull it together, you still got a season left. We're just getting started. >> Yeah.

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I like the idea of bringing some of the postcards. Cuz those are easy. >> You got those now. They're easy to distribute. >> Which one? Well, we get good deals. >> You can do use both the the horizontal >> Yeah, just grab a little bit of each. Doesn't matter. >> and the color.

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They they go just about as fast. >> Yeah. Okay. >> And the new >> And I'll look into the making a vertical card. >> And was that for I'll find find a real one and see what what they look like. >> The new headquarters building in Haverhill is now open. >> What's that?

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>> Yeah, for Historic New England. >> Oh. In Haverhill? >> Yeah. We went >> saw that somewhere. Was it in the paper? >> It was in the Historic New England magazine. I don't remember that. >> No. >> Um oh, it actually I think it was in the paper. >> Was it on their website?

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>> been on their website. >> But they uh They have two like five-story buildings that used to be shoe shops. And what they did with and they're they're across the narrow street from each other and they covered over the top and they

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made like a museum space in the middle. >> Nice. >> Yeah. >> Where is it? >> It's it's in Haverhill. It's right off of you know where um uh Lafayette Square is? >> Lafayette Square. >> Yeah. Um it's it's right down >> Right down >> Right down there.

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>> Yeah, it's it's really cool. Uh actually it's it's off of Lafayette Square. It's Railroad Square. >> Okay. Okay. >> Um and we did a tour last summer and uh their collection is phenomenal. There's 600,000 pieces in their collection.

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>> So, awesome. >> Okay, this came in the mail. Um this is the thing that it comes like every other year. >> Yeah. >> So, I know we've had more than one copy of it here. I don't know if anybody wants to

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shepherd this. I thought that maybe the maybe the library would want a copy of it. Um I have no idea what to do with it. It's not staying at my house. >> I'll take it. At least throw it in the binder and >> Put it in the schoolhouse. We could we

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could put it in the schoolhouse. >> We probably have to keep it in the schoolhouse or something. >> And I forgot my guitar. I'll check it when I'm going through it. Oh, I couldn't I was going to show you this stuff, but I couldn't print it out to bring it.

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>> All right, do your calendar for the schoolhouse now. >> We do that off offline, right? Calendar for the schoolhouse offline? >> off the camera? >> Okay. >> Yeah, it's just that we just want to make sure we don't have >> with the old business. Do we have any

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new business other than the All right, I'll start off. Um break the news to you softly, I am not reappointing this year for my position um because of the distress that dealing

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with town has caused me. >> Okay. >> Um this is something that I want this board to know about in full transparency that this this job's becoming very

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difficult. Um as all of you know, this is becoming a a it's turning into a job being chair and clerk uh and members, too. Um

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this is a lot of work. The DDB brought on a lot more work to this board than the board was ready to do. Um I still have reservations about the future of it.

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This town is now 20-something years older since the DDB was brought in. Um it's um not functioning What? >> I'm just thinking now, it could be. >> 20? >> 20 >> I like

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>> No question. No question. >> 18? >> 15? >> Well, I mean, I moved here in 2010, so it was after that, so >> It was finalized in 2024. Yeah. >> Oh. >> So >> So it's like 12 years then. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Anyway, yeah. That's That's not That's not your main job.

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>> still true, wasn't >> Yes, that's true. It's still >> So, um this this board just has a tremendous amount of work constantly. And um this and the final straw was this last demolition processing

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um made me all too aware of the work that this board has to do. I will make myself constantly available at phone's length. You guys all know my um phone number.

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Give you the info whatever you have questions about procedures, who to call, what to call, where to look. I'll turn my books over in another month once I've made sure my personal stuff is out of them. Um and so um

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it is no So, procedure um the next month you'll meet you per you the board uh you can do it any which way you want. It's all a friendly board, so you're

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probably all going to say, "Okay, you do this this Whatever system you want to use for picking a chair, an assistant chair, and a clerk. Then you vote on it at the beginning of the meeting and then you proceed. Um

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and that's how this board will operate. >> So, tonight is your last night? >> Tonight is my last night. Um this is when I'm up. Somebody else is up. Who else is up? There's two of us. Just me? Um >> Cuz otherwise I would have been nagging

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them, too. >> Yeah. >> Make sure you sign back on. >> So, >> You You're the face of the board. So, I mean, that's you know, you're the when when the phone rings, it's your phone. >> Yes. Yes. >> The rest of us can go hide. >> You

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>> guys have done a good job supporting me, but it's This is more than what this board was intended to do. And there's a there's a there's a flow problem with the permits that uh can't be thrown on a volunteer.

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This permitting process cannot be thrown on a volunteer. And um my request for funding for hours has been refused three years in a row. Um so that's it. Um

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so that's the that is it. But um the phone is always on. Call me, email me. Whoever is uh voted in as chair needs to sit down with me for a little bit and go over the

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book. Um and I Whoever Whoever chair is too official. E- Everybody should have Like the selectmen, the chair rotates. It's strange the uh how they do it, but

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you're chair for so many years, uh then the next person's chair, and it moves around the room. Um uh I don't >> And that's good because everybody gets a taste of it. So when when the guy that's been the chair for 10 years leaves, none of us know what the hell he was doing.

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>> Yeah. So everybody gets to know uh you you can try it. And so if you have a chair and assistant chair, the chair and the assistant chair should be able to both run the meeting with no problem at all. Should have duplicate, not this notebook, my other notebook.

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But Jan gives you the document, the agenda. You've all seen it enough times how we do it. Um any and and uh as long as you have the you have the quorum, um that's all you need. Uh if the chair

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doesn't want to do it all the time, I don't I don't think there's any problem with the assistant chair doing half the meetings. I don't I don't and everything follows Robert's Rules of Order. I bought the book 15 years ago. I don't know that maybe perused it. It's live on

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it's on the web, too. Um but that's that's it. So, um We got through 25 High Road. And that's going forward. The ball's

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kicked forward. And that's it. >> You going to be in the next meeting? >> Unless you call me >> Oh. >> um for something. Um I'm available. Pop in, talk, call,

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email, whatever. Um but this that's it. >> Time to say to the new director >> Oh, it's printed out. Okay. >> I'm next year.

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And then there's our You asked if you were the only one this year. >> How did I end up singular? It was always somebody with me. >> Yeah, but maybe it was Chris. >> Okay. >> So. And they didn't always leave because their term was up. They

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might have just said >> expiration resignation chair seat expired June 10th election >> You don't have your dates on here, Missy. >> What time do you need to know, babe? >> Yeah, that's what I said. You guys You guys can never leave. >> [laughter] >> Oh, it didn't put it in there. That's

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funny. Well, it's on the town website. I think if you just our town website, and look at our thing, and it tells you when everybody's there. >> Okay, Jen. >> Yeah. >> Um number two, that needs to be on the agenda for the July meeting. >> The picking? >> Uh

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the commission uh leadership vote. You can You can copy that. >> We vote on that every year, but >> Yes. And just to be >> Well, I've never had this piece of followed >> But I mean, we voted every year. We vote. >> Sure. I have never voted for chair. >> No. I I I don't remember ever doing

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this. >> Nope. >> I remember you guys I remember when you guys sort of voted me for assistant chair. >> Yeah, but that's because you were We had When new people come on, we have to give them an a purpose, so to speak. And >> Well, no. I thought it was like after like Nancy and Carolyn left.

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>> Yeah, so then there's somebody new, and it was like, if they did that, will you still do that? Kind of thing, you know? Got you. >> We're probably breaking the rules. I think. >> I believe it. >> You've got to have >> vote in every year of all the others. Well, see, I'm not I'm working for

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nonprofits. >> Right. >> And And we do it every year. So, usually it's the same person. >> That Well, I do remember last year I did because I did offer Does Does anybody else want to do chair? Um because I know I can't I don't have

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enough time to do it. And so, I offered it up. Did anybody else want to do it? Um so, um and then uh the clerk Yeah. So, that's the system going. And so, now you've got it in

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print, that's good. You have to send a letter to the selectmen once you do it. Uh So, that needs to be on your agenda for next month when you post it. Uh That's it. >> All right.

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>> Anything Any other new business before the board. I entertain a motion to adjourn. >> I move that we adjourn. >> Second. >> There we go. >> Is that it? >> All in favor. >> I. >> I. >> It's 8:25. >> Got to remember to do that.