I call the meeting of the Newbury historical commission to order at 705 7:07 and February 13th 2025 all rise for the Pledge of [Music]
Allegiance PL aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible liberty and justice for all okay minutes from last month's
meeting get those we're all here yes January 9th you have all your stuff oh no I'd rather but it doesn't matter cuz I wasn't there so I wouldn't know whether they're right this
any errors emissions or Corrections no bit no wow sitting down for that one okay entertain a motion to accept the minutes as written I move that we accept the minutes of the January 9th
2025 meeting as written second all second all in favor I I uh treasurer's report yeah here's two for you guys [Applause]
so yes you tell if you look down in the middle you could see what happened so they just deleted it um it's gone so and and and this is my fault I mean I I got I got too comfortable with with
uh uh eileene when she was there we I we would just talk and she would transfer our money over and uh and we have a new right person now and they apparently sent out a an announcement to it which
went to my which everybody else has got my new email address and she had the one that I used three years ago so I never got an announcement okay but they never contacted the clerk or the president either yeah yeah like they didn't follow up at least okay yeah so is it gone
so okay so what happened was so I've got a all this is is the backup I remember I said I did the timeline um so uh so I met with uh with Eva for about I don't know 40 minutes or something the new the new uh uh what
what is she accountant I guess or something like that yeah Town accountant uh for um on this on this topic M okay so I don't quite understand what's going on on but okay they're always we you every
year you hear me say I I I don't I'm not getting my reports yet but I think my my records are okay going forward so in October I got my first report from uh them I think that's first first one was in
October okay what's this I just a second this is this is the end this is the end of the year so our numbers were okay at the end so on 30th of June 2024 we were okay so that's that's so I've got this here
1912 then on on September I got my first report in September and I only got one attachment which was our just one of our accounts and I I called and and and asked about
it and uh anyway I I I didn't I didn't get another one so then so on by October I said I've got to have my information in October she sent me my information and lo and behold account
one correct account two with the $3500 in it correct account three correct with you know the cash so everything was fine I was concerned about that money going over cuz we hadn't had a report on it so there it was in October October October
31st it was there and then January was gone and no not January okay and when the report came out and almost January December 12th okay uh
expenditure no through November 30th through November 30th we only got two right two reports and I didn't think too much of that because usually I they come in separately sometimes I get one sometimes I get two sometimes I get
three and so I called about that and and that and that was uh I don't know when that call I can't remember but what whatever what I did and had them go back and look triggered something because that's when we all got
that letter from that email from Eva which I believe everybody was on the email Jan Jan huh really I didn't I didn't print the thing out I just print the anyway looking forward it to her
later let's see if I let me see if I can find just a minute I got too much stuff so reading this so we're going to have to do a town meeting vote to get our money back so we have to have it so we so because it's been transferred yeah here it's right here let's see who who got this do we need to keep it a special
account afterwards can we just put it in our general gifts or something the whole point of it was because it was the money that was left from the 375th right right and so we wanted to keep it separate the 400s is going to be coming and we'd already have a foothold of money to
start off with gotcha gotcha all right so so so they sent us a war an email warning saying that if it's not turned in by uh July 25th uh that get R then it was too late so where is it now in like Jour funds
it's been transferred over to free cash and the only way to get it back is to go to town meeting and have them vote it back to us oh we're going to make the biggest stink of town meeting then and we have to make sure that they' give it that back well I'm just trying to figure out it seemed everything seemed to be okay until I called and and and asked
about because I was still getting reports on it right I got I had that report that said the money was there this one here that has see are three accounts one two three that's annoying and and that was that was as of the 31st of
October right October 31 did this they did this mid fiscal year they did it well they took it out it was was still here right on that date and then and then sometime after I I made it visible by saying where's the thing that's when
we lost it so they must have gone back and seen that the the the rollover request wasn't given in writing so I think shanning probably did this long ago when I first took it over I I wrote the thing to have him roll it
over and then e and I would just talk and she would just move it over I didn't have to do it officially right but I should have that's why I say it's my fault no understandable but it's just anyway it just seems like there'd be a precedent like that it's been rolled over a thousand times it's obvious it's
the end of the year everybody's accounts are empty at the end of the year clearly it's being saved it it's self-explanatory that's what I mean that's I don't want to say so silly but seems like a coincidence a special account for a reason and and it seems to
me that I'm in there every week right like double check just double check with another another person somebody else should have been contacted if they she sent you emails and didn't get a response then logic should say to you hey there must be something wrong with
this email account and bring it up to somebody else to get another one from that's why we have multiple members somebody in the office I mean it's not like they're in a vacuum right so it's frustrating anyway okay but and it's not like they're not nice people and they're
not working nice talk with you it's silly it's silly going forward uh this has to get so uh we have to vote we have to so we need to get on the agenda because they're finalizing the agenda for town meeting if we want
to try and get it back so I'm so we need to get on the warrant is what you're say I was going to say yeah how the steps to do that so whatever it's got to be voted on in the meeting and be to be voted mistake and we would like our money back please can you guys vote to have our I don't know how that stuff works but I wasn't going
to do it without I knew I had a meeting in a day right or two days you know why I'll just bring it up here Jan needs to send a letter to the we um yeah Town Administrator you was supposed to have talked to Tracy
about two months ago already it so it's been brought up several times what's that to Tracy all right what has requesting that the special archival
account of $3,456 67 needs to be replenished yeah at the town meeting and uh I don't know what else do we say pleasan thank
you pleas thank you so so on 63 they sent the first announcement to me uh at the old email address and and I it wasn't resent to me until November 14th so that's that's when I that's
first time I saw this so when did the first when was the first email 63 uh sorry June 3rd so in advance of the year end and there's a sentence at the back that says uh you should also review any special articles with balances in
your apartment please let us know if the article balance can be closed or carried forward so but I you know again I didn't have it and then on on the 25th they sent another one out apparently to the same
email address saying that uh hey you have filed your thing yet which I didn't get all right fun time and that was the I guess that was
the closing day 7:25 24 yeah so I am really sorry everybody we'll get it back the town has to agree this well I would like to think that you know probably just the majority yeah you know
so we pit it to them if we have to you know this is our money for the celebratory you know and remind everybody that that's coming right over around the corner and I did get a little lecture on it's been sitting there for 11 years do you have any plans for it no I know I just yes we so everybody say
yeah it's called the it just takes a while to get to 400 we're getting there and they're the ones that forced us to take it out of a private checking account the bank and put it and put it into to the Town Hall
figures accounting system it' be safe there and it is safe there it's just and it was it was fine until and we got new people in there and they just you know didn't didn't have my right email address right and because I didn't
know I didn't stop in and talk to him on some presedent should have been you know considered if you can't hear people come back people the the last time we had a little bit of an issue that you guys wouldn't be seeing anything of things were going to Channing from um
and me and I finally sent CC Tracy and said please CC the historical commission email what do we have the email for if no one's going to use it yeah for keeping track of things so that because what if he's not around what if something happened to his email then
nobody knows about it right and it's not right that's what they we didn't create the email account the to keep track of them so there's no reason it shouldn't be cced speaking of that now is the historical the new email the new email going to change of course
we already did that you think I haven't already done this yeah we already did that did you update your email no you send did anybody send out an email to tell you to change the email yeah yeah it went to the historical commission I know that but did anybody
send it to me I don't know I don't know if you ever read anything I I didn't get any on the change of the email address I got it and I immediately went in and changed Jan's email underneath her because she's got Jan's email and the
historical email in other words you're not looking at the emails that I send you I am trying to go through this I get a 100 emails a day he's very popular I'm sorry do you have the violin I get about 50 so I get a lot too
I get a lot too feel I have two different email accounts to look at besides I know you have I'm St several however we'll get the money back you have to look at the names and then go delete delete delete or put them
in that I can go into afterwards cuz I'm try to look at the stuff I need to look at now I'd love to use that money to fix another one or two of those Maps up in the attic if there the email change well I think but that special account was saving for the 300 they sent the town
thing out but I'm sorry it's um CU I had to go in it up permit link CU it wasn't working right takes a while and now that's working right again finally but I can't be the only one who can get into that email account either
so and I'm not done there's more we uh according to Eva we have not uh submitted our budget for the next year oh that's the biggest load what y was submitted like two
months ago oh was it really yeah okay I'll it's been submitted and refused really oh yes refused refused return to Ascender that's so we have no budget
next year the it's uh level funded from the year before oh okay so it was the year before it was January this year we have to have it in by November and we didn't get it in by November uh so they won't accept
it she didn't tell me this is when I said the email and said please CC the historical commission's email account when you're sending these dated things yeah so everybody gets an ey on so one person is not the only person that's getting the information we're not
getting it right yeah I and everybody's got every know about you every once in a while AOL says I think I'll put this email in spam you know in the in the spam folder right for no reason I mean it's you know it's an individual it's nothing weird
somebody that I get emails from all correspondents in business needs to be answered somebody sends you an email you answer it that's and if you they don't answer then it's didn't make it to its destination that's that's common
business practice yeah and now they've changed everything because we're in the.gov world now which I don't have a problem with the whole whole reason behind it and everything but it does take a lot of changing and adjustment time and and there was very there were
very many fullet of words going on in my house trying to get the historical commission site back up I mean the email up and finally I could get it on the the tablet but I couldn't get it on the
laptop yet and I'm like I follow all the instructions right to the letter the law and it just sat there like did you want something so it's finally they V up and everything's got to be dot d be goes to
the town now so the budget is level funded from last year okay uh no is they refused to help us great okay anything else in the treasur as long as it's not zero okay that that's it and again I
apologize CU it's G it's giving get grief for no reason I could have just filed a piece of paper it's typical you know it's not it's not like we're the United States government here well it's not like there's 800 people to worry about I'm sorry it's just some of the
stuff it's like if you're not getting an answer then maybe you could put a note in our e our mailbox downstairs right yeah respond that I look at every single week but no so I get annoyed with the excuses there's no excuse you either
contact people you don't get an answer right away on something that's very important then you have to find another way to contact them yeah maybe their phone is down maybe the email's broken maybe there's a reason so find another way around it so Jan I'm going to make a copy of this whole package okay and then
give it to you for for the record okay yeah there's no I this is too much I didn't want to make a copy for everybody so just you know they don't really want it either yeah that's right you just scan it email to her as like a file huh you just scan it maybe email it to the
email account and we have it as a file and then she doesn't need how do you just scan it my scanner takes one page at a time oh I don't know that's how I do it I just put everything in the printer and scan it okay oh can you do that yeah at at the
office Town H yeah you can do that too I think but I don't know right now everything is up in the air and Lop be over there yeah so do one page at time because it and it halfway through it just screwed up and then the PDF file
that is trying to create is screwed up gotcha yeah sorry give me a copy and I will scan it in and or whatever no problem what's that just make a copy for me and or whatever and I'll take care okay oh yeah I'll keep this so I'll make a I'll make a copy of that okay no
problem okay uh motion to accept the Treasure's report I make a motion to accept the treasur report as written second second all in favor I I right L you're up again oh what am I
up for on this side lower green update I didn't have a I didn't print out a thing all right you just update yeah uh okay uh the lower Green Local historic district okay let's see this goes so we're we're getting somewhere uh
we we got a we got a a surprise uh the other day the person that's going to accept the lower green study committee local historic district study committee's uh study report at um Mass
historical uh resigned and her last day is tomorrow and she promised us 7-Day turnaround on our document and so that's what's in our schedule and we don't know what we're going to get we we we did ask her
to go down and and assign this to somebody so that we know who to send it to and we've got all that going but uh because that's the only way we can make CU all this stuff has to be uh filed right for the for the town meeting in
advance so and and the select board uh has to approve it too so uh so everything's going everything's going as planned except that that 7 Days may not be realistic anymore and I'm not sure what happens then so uh but that's
that's that's the biggest thing everything else is pretty much uh done now everybody every did you send out a copy of the bylaw to everybody Jan that that uh Ellie sent you yes we got a copy in an email everybody got one okay yeah
okay I I know I got one I just I didn't look up to see so what's uh what's being proposed in there what did I do with that stuff that's here um what being proposed proposed uh is that the the Newbury
historic commission becomes the becomes the commission or the committee for reviewing the local historic district in other words like we're managing the the bylaw demolition delay bylaw this would be the same thing
that's it's otherwise there's got to be a separate committee yeah set up we need six more volunteers well so you're saying it's the historic overseas the the the lower lower Green
Local historic district correct so um has somebody done research with other towns that have already done this probably like ipswitch and
Hamilton um to so we get an idea of what the president setting is for what overseeing really is yeah like if you guys start making radical movements and start Banning different colors of paint
if you read the bws no no paint give people freedom to paint Freedom no I I I I was fighting for something on metal roofs because sure is somebody's going to put a metal roof on and it'll be bright red yeah I know but
it does say nothing on uh roofing material do say anything Oni no and what else the other no nothing on sidewalks uh nothing on sidewalks I wanted penes in there too and it's not not listed but it but but
the but the the committee that that manages this thing whoever it may be in the end um would be uh can can can go in through and and and rearrange things but has to it has to be approved so the way
I read the email was that they were talking about merging the local historical uh District commission or committee and the historical commission yes that's what I that's what I brought up that's
what it sounded like well it's not not merging it's just it's just at the end of this meeting we adjourn and then we then we uh convene the the next meeting and if there's no business then we
I'm so they want us to take over it it's this this group the only problem is that that the uh the committee for the local historic district has to have at least one member that lives in the district we
qualify now Okay so until I move or die we're or get off get thrown off this for screwing up the treasures things it's all your fault but uh until that happens um we fit the bill so they only need one
of our members only one Member One m one member of the to be qualified local historic district uh committee has to be has to live in the district you all live in the district no
the district is is just this little area around the green now because we have you have to have certain people on it so that's where architect and like this boy yeah although you don't those aren't those
aren't as firm as somebody has to that somebody that has to live there it sounds like that they're like Mass historical is going to want to see that so but the the other ones whether you got an architect or not that's that's not I I still I still don't get
operationally how does this merger work there's no merger but this is this is the this would be the commit this becomes the committee this becomes the committee for the local histor it's just that you have run separate and apart from the study course yes okay yes and
and and the reasoning is that a small town it doesn't make any sense for what little traffic is going to come through this thing uh it doesn't make any sense to find have to find five to six more volunteers to come in and meet uh uh
monthly uh to to basically convene and adjourn so it' be adding like a a second meeting at the end of our meeting yeah we would adjourn and then we would reconvene and then and it would be no business and and and then we would adjourn or unless there's something to
do yeah I'll look the quickness how many yeah how many properties did you figure oh God hang on rough just a rough it's it's what it's 65 acres hang on uh I didn't bring any of that with
me it's a dozen or so at least oh no it's more than a dozen yeah yeah it's we go all the way there nothing on 43 yeah but but but okay the trustees are one well they're not going to build on their property green belts other not going to build on their property the other one is
the green itself nothing's going to be happening there that we don't already get involved with so uh the cemeter cemeter to the river right it's going to the river goes to the river right and so the city property is one of them to the
The Landing down there is it so now this town has a byla you can't be on more than one board at a time but I am you I am to understand that uh when I just did my training this month I hope
some I have that you would have probably heard this in the uh conflict of interest training that um if it is not a paid board and it doesn't meet for more than 400 hours a year then you can be on
more than one oh okay so we will have to check that with Town Council okay write that down oh I see okay yeah because that's what I was thinking though immediately like how does it make sense to so basically the agenda item just
goes to the end of the meeting from from from from what Elizabeth is saying uh uh Ellie is saying uh this this is the way the smaller towns do it so but we don't know what they're their bylaws look like either so maybe they maybe they allow it
yeah so we better check that okay so um so we're an unpaid board and we're under the hourly thing so I think that would be okay but we should check it do we meet 4,000 what was it 4 400 hours 400 hours we we don't
meet 12 yeah well let's say I mean we basically might meet 48 because we might meet two hours that's right that seems like what about so other bigger towns like ipswitch they all have separate they have a much bigger district and
Hamilton it's probably different there well then they got a bigger population too yeah so what happens is theoretically the district just sits there quietly and nothing goes wrong but what if there is a giant increase in
workload um you know if this is just going to increase more to this board and doubling your work you're assuming or I'm going to still be on it you're assuming who's going to be on it I had to say it just to watch his face sorry
where you going look at he's purple like oh my god well the when I read that letter today it's like no we don't need any more to do yeah I mean I expected to hear that barely keep up to what we're
doing yeah so um so what only one so other than you I I make us work so you so it's a 5 to seven man board and um whatever the number they
need one in the district one person has to live there so can they have more oh from the can they have more from the district doesn't doesn't say anything to that and I don't know why that would be a problem unless you unless the whole
board have a quum I guess doesn't doesn't make any difference right um I mean like what type of things would even come up for this situation for their agenda items like what would point if somebody in the district is like there's a a war a war going on over a house yeah
or or or or windmill or somebody's house burns down and and they sell the property and and the developer comes in with chop up the prop three story duckco house with with palm trees yeah and then we would say nah
gotcha gotcha all right and then and that's I was well that's my point like it's kind of like that's what they're overlapping duties really I know so I mean if it's that kind of situation I have no problem taking on the work but if it's you know some sort of like weird extra extra we have to do all this
research see it depends on what it's going to be for the rules right now some of them like the one it who did we go to that time IP IP switch we went out switch and they have like one for the business district they have one for the
for for this side of town they have like six different districts so it's a whole different you know scenario responsibilities right now we're talking about we're already taking care of the low green to start with because it's the
schoolhouses on it and it's not going that much further north than it's only going up to where the cemeter a lot of the houses have covenants on them saying you can't do this anyway like the pumpkin house and the neighbors across
from me have one the the uh s Tav se s Tavern has one um does Robin have anything on his I don't think so but I see I see the upper green eventually doing it too
upper Green's already in a district it's not it's not a local historic Federal one it's not it's a National Historic registry District yeah totally all it is it's totally different so it's not like you're just doing but I think it should be encouraged yeah once we know how to
do it you can do a second one lawn well and and well and down the line if it if that starts getting too big there's no reason why you just don't set up a a standalone board yeah I don't see any
problem with that but if you get you or 80 properties you know you probably should have a separate group so when the writing will it say the historic commission is also the district commission or will it just say our
names good question it it has it it it says the Newbury historical commission it's it's in here the wording is in here somewhere hang on I printed the thing out oh somebody's gone in and edited it since I said this is this is why Google
Docs is no good right I expected a document to be there and it's full of edits let me let me find it though hang on just just take me a second because it's all out of order now what did what did you commission and
the historic district commission be the same five to seven people yeah the historic Comm commission would continue to oversee the demo delay bylaw the historic district commission would review proposals in the local historic district um if there was a demolition
application for a property in the local historic district both commissions would review separately it's the same seven people reviewing the same separately that makes no sense at all well I guess it depends on how you use the word separately so when words have to meet
sep you have to rejourn and Recon but we'd have to do that anyway the meetings could be uh combined but would have separate sections in the agenda Commissioners would need to be be very clear what hat they were wearing for each application and which bylaw they were working
by which makes sense I mean if you if you think about it well that makes sense it's logical you wouldn't bring up the bylaw you wouldn't well you wouldn't bring up the demolition delay bylaw in the in in the second half of the meeting you would bring that up in the uh
Newbury historic commission uh portion of the meeting and if it had to do with the local historic district you'd bring it up in the second and you bring it up and you'd say the commission has already ruled on that that's potentially it too yeah and and we concur by the way yeah exactly we
concur So my answer Lon is is I I guess it's doable but I want to I want to see how the Clock Works how how the the commission
is the see calling it it's it can't be just the Newbury historic commission is now the is it just the members that transfer over or is it literally the Newbury historical commission
oversees the district no that's not the way it reads why you have you have to people the same people on two different commissions yeah and they have to be very clear when they're having a public meeting or you know a meeting like this
which commission they're working for at the time but they're two separate commissions it's not the historical commission taking over the local historic district I want to that's what I want to I want to see that and what
happens five of us are on one board only four of us want to be on the other board I you you can do that as long as we're still left with what was the minimum five to seven is what it says yeah so as long as we're left with five
what if the next year you lose a second person that doesn't want have the somebody's got a the select board has to appoint somebody else now they could just be on as far as I can see as far as I can see so let's just let's just say
it it happened yesterday okay we adjourn we reconvene and and then we do our business and and then and then aurn and it's and it's six of us okay I don't see any reason why when we reconvene another person can't walk in the door right and don't have I would
think I I don't I didn't see anything that said you had to be on the newb historic commission to be on the local historic uh commission okay well that letter says something the his the commission will oversee this is what I'm this is why I
said I want see how the Clock Works here because we want to do this before we send it to mass historical because it's going to this is going to be in what we send not that we can't change it before before but once it's voted on we can't change it not without a two-thirds
majority so okay essentially it works like yeah see that's the problem essentially it works like this the feeling I had was it's a separate committee with the same people yeah separate commission the same people
but I but it didn't say it had to only be those same people limited to those same people so let's let's say I leave okay and I'm gone you guys don't qualify anymore but when you after you adjourn if if somebody else walks in the door
that lives in the district and joins you in the second half of the meeting then you do gotcha it's just you're not going anywhere so relax yeah so it's it's a little juggling but the whole idea is this way you don't have to make a separate Commission if if we should
recruit someone from the district to occupy the currently empty seat on the historical then we'd have two much greater chance right right when the bus one more likely to have a quorum and and two U that takes care of that
contingency that's a great idea when when law is out skiing somewhere work your magic start talking I'm on the commission I don't have to be yeah talk talk to Robin or somebody who's out who's out there and see if anybody wants to come hang out if anybody wants to get on to the Rob is down there and he's very involved and he's on the low he's
on the historic the low I'll ask well if this is this has got to pass 2/3 first okay before this before the ISS pass two3 of town meeting yeah yeah yeah just like our just like our demolition delay by have you submitted it for town meeting not yet we're get we're getting
on the agenda this we just got we stumbled a little bit when we found out this person was uh okay cuz selectman was here last month and wanted to know submitted it yet and how soon are you going to have it in the warant the warant yeah I'm not involved in that but
supposed they know it has to be on there who's they there is Elizabeth Ellie and and uh the folks are currently on the yeah on the studies oh yeah right yeah I'm just not part of that so does somebody commuted
because it's a time thing he said this stuff has to be in now so are you sure they know they they do know they communicating well the reason I'm here telling you this is they didn't want to submit it uh they didn't
want to do that until we ran this by the historic commission to make sure there wasn't a major objection is this something that requ vote huh is this something requires a vote here I don't know um I guess that would be okay yeah why not well then you Channing must have do
some more research first I think okay well but if that that's all holding up getting the warrant item submitted yeah all all it's no all it's holding up is US sending it to mass historical for review so we could I mean we can always
fall off of the thing if if we don't get it done because at at this point I think the priority is to get it on the warrant for April well we have to get it on the on that's right yeah I agree okay all right well somebody's but we don't want to send this off to mass historical
until they didn't want to until we did this until we agreed actually I didn't want to until we did this Wonder uh but the bylaw that they sent us today is that a draft or is that that is
the that is the draft final going to mass historical they will make edits more than okay all right and then we'll get it back and change those make those edits and then it goes to the select board and they approve it and then we can present it but we need to get on the
on on the agenda first right well we need to be able to have time to study the whole thing and I mean I think I I don't know if we can make just a tentative this is okay with
us uh vote tonight uh so that's still a draft oh it's a draft so there's still I think I think what what we're voting on is not the bylaw what we're voting on is the um
the setup of the willingness to do that's our willingness to be also the commission what we're going to vote on tonight right we're not voting on The bylaw because we haven't had time to read it and it has not gone through Mass historically yet and they're going to
edit it right I still have a question of exactly how the Clock Works it's us with the exchange of members all the members transfer over what if one doesn't want to what if two go this way and another one goes this way how's that all work or is it just
all the members are automatically on both they're automatically on unless somebody doesn't want to be as long as there's five we're done I don't know we can you can always have more yeah but I I think it's saying here as long as we have I don't think there's going to be a phrase in there it says it unless you
don't want to be I think it it is no I think that could be put in I don't think that's there I I wouldn't think it's not a requirement that you be on both that would clear that problem right up it's not a requirement yeah so in
other words if four out of five people are fine with being on both and one person is not comfortable then we need to get another person to to fill that person's space for whichever commission or however you want
to put it it's committee it's if we if we if we have five it's still okay so yeah so my question was though can we can we when we adjourn can we for for this from this meeting can we can somebody walk in the door and sit down
and then and now and now we're in the other meeting and one of the people on that is is only on that not have historic commission yeah I would think so they have different names it's just not written that way that's all it's still going to have different names but
you're still going to I could see one having an additional person but the bylaw will be written that says the historic commission will also be the district commission so is it saying that it
is and that's all it is and you can't subract I think we need to see what other towns are already doing in their bylaws who wants to make a motion that this is a
conditional approval uh condition a conditional help me Rich yeah um well first try to say what you want to say and then we'll make it sound good seriously this is this is a uh the
board's willingness to participate in the lower District commission Opera plan operational of being the being the board for both for
both for both right so I move that uh we accept the proposed plan let J write this yeah we accept the proposed plan of the local historic district study
committee as stated in the bylaw I think because that the bylaw we're not going to mention the bylaw oh you're not okay okay um then in theil so instead we're going to respond to her email yes so I move that
we approve tentatively approve the plan submitted via email from the local Elizabeth who H but uh from the local historic district study committee regarding the
composition of the local historic district commission yeah and do we want to you want to put a comma with several questionss at least to get it going well
you want to stop there or do you want to leave the door open more I think that's all we need in the motion I guess they don't need it today we accept the proposed plan of the local historic district committee study committee regarding the composition of
the local historic district Commission okay Jan will be able to scribe that off the video the exact wording isn't important tonight and she'll have that that's the motion that's the motion uh we need a second and then we need to go to comments maybe I
W reply to what you just said I don't know what we're what we're seriously what are we approving because we've been around our will is that that the members of this commission will comprise the local historic district
willingness to have stop right there that's proposed or whatever yeah and then I'll get back to to her well tomorrow probably just so they know they can send that thing off we don't want to propose something that that that seven people
here said no to especially when there was only six of us sometimes I feel like and that's that's what that was by suggestion so that we didn't so we didn't uh okay to something so it's okay all right so we're going to vote on this I'll second
it now was a comment Rich did you have comment further comments no okay this is the comment session okay uh we're going to go to a vote all in favor I I I
okay okay I was tell thank you everybody sorry I didn't explain it that well no worries but it's complicated it's convoluted it is really and you really need you need to read a there's a whole section you need to read in the bylaw yeah laan when you you communicate
with Elizabeth we want to hear what other what exactly how the Clock Works from other towns yeah um I'm sure that they're duplicating that but we so we probably should have it for next meeting because
you'll probably maybe you'll be coming back at us again so I want to I want to see exactly how this works other places I mean they they should know I mean there Spa I mean they must have other sections like this that
with different cities and towns so they've got to have good examples of people that well they they must because that's why that's what she came in and said that the the smaller towns usually do it this way gotcha okay but without getting into the specifics of what what
this way is all right that's the end of that report uh website report nothing new on my end um starting to collect some more things like you sent me the more stuff I'm going to probably do a update like
add a bunch of things next month but otherwise don't ask him to do anything right now yeah well every time I go in there he kind of looks like he's you know the door's locked it well it was locked today when I went and knocked on it and I was like then I PE in the old office had to do the phones and I was
like is he in there and he goes who he is and it just took him a minute to walk to the door and when he opened the door he looked like kind of like a drowned cat for a second I was like I was like hi I'm just here to I'm not here to bug you about anything I promise okay um so that's website report
uh correspondence never correspondence I I believe I gave you I give I gave you all a bunch of stuff of them is being I can see Rebecca's got it that's the plot plan that Eva sent sent
me about the um P Stone okay so that's what that is so the way I I read this it looks like we're um we go 22t 48 in in in depth from the edge of pavement and
38 ft 35 in wide so that says to me that we go all the way back back to that all the way back to that second wall so moving that back to a more protected area is is a a doable thing in terms of the the land that we control there yeah
it's actually 20 22 22 from the right away it's not the edge of the pavement oh okay so you've got even more Yep so it certainly goes back to that wall now is that something that we could get Town guys to do for us like would they do that moving cuz I mean like I I'm sorry
the people who just put the stone back well that's what saying they would do it right like they would be okay with doing because I mean I would think you would need to like you know lift that up carefully move it so they did a good job with the milest James and Company have been very very
good to us I mean even stuff on the schoolhouse they usually come right down and take care of it for us they took care of that stone look at he split and and then he let me know that it was done which was even nicer because I didn't have to double check on it so so I can
reach out to to James I mean this makes it probably will have to wait till spring cuz that thing's probably Frozen in 24 in down so thought about it in the snow yeah uh but still even just to put the bug in his ear let him know that we're planning
that and he may have some reason why we can't I don't know but we'll ask him he's the expert so well we G we have the information um big the the legal documents do we ever want to put like a sign or anything near there maybe it's cultural you know what
I mean cuz I feel like people drive by and they're like what the heck is that it might be nice to have something like I don't really want people to stop there but like yeah the people who Liv there'd be really happy about that but it's still I feel like it needs to explanation I mean you know it's so
historic people should know what it is it really should have something you know the fact that it's the you know the matches that because the stor before was like right on the road and it was very visible and now it's like in this
little people don't barely notice it so yeah I think it would be nice if we had something to say oh see this lovely thing that's right in the back of the this field right here that's why this is here and protected and we're very proud well I wonder if the
cultural do we should the the salt The Next Step would be is to draw up a uh a plan mhm we weas on it yep that way we don't have two more steps of back and forth right walk in the door and go can you do this yeah do we and we want it
back in the wall right like we don't want it in the middle of the of the right plot right we want it to be we can incorporate it in the wall or just in front of the wall I put it yes then then you have the wall to protect it behind it yeah so it's kind that's what I'm saying like versus pulling the ball
apart put it in just put it like just lay it up against the street facing yeah Street facing face of the wall um so that some jamoke with a with a lawn mower doesn't or just
a big plow Drives By I'm not sure now cuz it's like four weeks seems like a long time some days and not long enough in others but I think I sent you all I don't know did I send you all the quick claims I think so yeah right this is for the stone that says yes we where it is
is going to stay there and that we're in charge of making sure that it's taken care of so and this is part of that responsibility I would say yeah this is we try to take care of it right I mean so that's good so we have all the information about the stone we have very
competent folks on the public works that can handle moving it when it's feasible yep I'll send I'll send an email uh with a a rough out of of what we want to do to uh James
tomorrow and and I'll I'll copy everybody so you copied on the reply and like I'd have no problem like meeting them out there too one day when they if they want to talk about it take a bunch of pictures and stuff because then there was the same thing with the
granite protection system post right I think that that we really reduce the need for the granite post if we move it back I mean we're talking 22 ft away from the street put one on both corners and have to where the stones in the middle of the back to be determined cuz personally I
feel like just two random Granite posts like oddly look just to me like and there's not a lot of land between the road and the stone wall was it 3 feet oh yeah it was yeah it was little little space but but once we move it back I
don't think we need the granite we probably don't need the granite post the ballards or whatever to you know to protect it because stone wall the stone wall and just like land and being set back is is more than I is there not a road behind that piece there is there is there
there's like a RightWay or a path or something there is something there but it's not a road okay cuz Fieldstone road goes up this way and then there's the the um there's a little path behind that wall but it's not certainly not drivable would we ever
want plants to go in there or anything like that what do you want the reason the reason I'm asking is that well this this volunteer group came came I run the on Asus I run the uh pollinator program they're they're a a Newberry gardening
group and they want a beautification of Newberry and they say do you have any places where you'd like flowers or plants or Gardens put in so they would put it in and maintain it I guess it would depend on what they were putting in yeah we' have to I'm just you know if it was like wild flowers that filled in
the whole plot I'd like know ET like a couple geraniums just to kind of just leave it alone and put a sign out there grass and subtle or put or put it behind it and then have it out in the in an open area tell them tell them to do all of the The Monuments around the green
because we always try and we well I I told him I said that's the first thing I said first thing I said bring some decent soil in then put one right here thing reques water okay what else we got correspondence uh gave you all I believe
I sent you all a copy of the email that Eva had sent when the inquiry about the yeah it wasn't the Morse family it was it was a cofin car enslaved
people's that's what yeah that one yeah did IED to put it wrong in the not yeah you put the mors that she was the one that sent the mors code information it wasn't any oh you respond respond to that yeah so what would she do that was
the last last month's sorry okay where is that I just had and you all got an you all got a copy of that everything is now town of Newbury um. org was changed to duck duck
yes most of us got that it's just it's Newber ma.gov total change so let's make sure we are in it's supposed to kick you back and say that it's going to it's been changed or something for a while but you know how
that works James sent um replied I sent him a follow-up question about the group cuz we had it the last meeting we had the two people bidding the same exact amount soice yeah so he said that um it's going to be
jss and that they have ordered the materials and looks like the first of May they will start and it should take a week or so to complete fantastic so that means that it should be all done before we open Schoolhouse which is even better
fantastic you know so how's the how's the how are the Windows coming they're still boarded up I I haven't spoken with James about yeah I was in there today actually yeah so I I don't have a promise date for when they'll be back they're in
process so somebody asked me and I said I don't I didn't know I'm writing that down I wouldn't want to be installing Windows right now noed yeah in process in proc uh so yeah God love me gets right back
to me I mean it's awesome I sent him a I sent him a message at 11 in the morning and at one I have't answer it's just is really nice I don't have to go chasing around after it um we we got this thing about
there there's a not project notification form the old Hay Street barrier removal project like okay on behalf of the Department of I think I sent this I I I don't I sent this one or
not to you guys but Ty and B respectfully submits this project notification form and Associated materials to the old Hay Street barrier removal project I'm like okay so they're mostly just telling us I
don't um mass mass Wildlife will obtain local state and federal authorizations for the project and is notifying the geographically pertinent tribal historic
preservation offices say that three times in the town of Newbury historical commission during the stages of project planning and design and I have a whole big huge fat thing somewhere here if
anybody wants to look at it because Chrissy nicely printed this all out because yeah where are I'm so confused oh hey pretty well project is late located on the
Little River approximately 120 ft Upstream west of the existing Hay Street bridge in Newberry oh that's that's where the hous is on the side of the hill at the end of new little river is tit is a
tidally say that three times fast cuz it's tile old msite influenced tributary to the Paca River they're going to remove the barrier caused by the former old Hay Street
Causeway that crosses the great Marsh at the Little River I know exactly what the why are they REM Newman road now that you know that strip you still see see the the trees along it right at the end of Newman Road there's a strip of in where
the old road used to run in front of you or yeah right in front right at the end and it goes you know towards the mill where the mill was the house you can see it PL as day right there I don't where why they the title restriction is contributing to the
degradation and loss where upgrade that was a pool up gradient habitat okay so what that means there probably some barrier yeah it's right in here where the old road went so like that probably
and that's and that would be that would be west west of the bridge there that that was the pond so when the when the tide was out they could release the water and still keep the mill running the tide on Mill which is fairly unusual
well that's why that that was there to hold the water so when at low tide they could let it out slowly and still operate so do you really want to remove that it's part of the old I mean I can forward this to anybody who would like to take a look at it imagine I look at
it it wood I only have the one stone it's it's a road it used to be a road oh it's like like an earth and Dam kind of thing yeah yeah yeah oh okay and there's places you can better see it there are photos where you can see the roundness
of what they built to hold the water back yeah distribute the for this letting us know that's interesting at this point I totally intrigued them but I'll bet the gate that actually does the blocking is wood yeah if they have to open and close
it yeah yeah there wasn't there isn't it it open it goes right to where the river is yeah cuz it used to go over that used to be the bridge was was where that burm or whatever it is you're calling it now ends the bridge isn't there anymore but
you have you have you have you have to be able to open it at low tide fills it was it was round it was Earth I don't remember the able to get out well it went into the mill it went into the mill system and
was let out so they drain so so it flowed over the top toilet tank there and then they let it out okay oh that's so there's photos here from the images of America Newbury
Historical Society old Newbury which some of us have yeah and I think we have it at the schoolhouse too that was right so it shows pictures of what you're talking about if yeah if once you see it once you're down there look you going to see it no problem okay I've seen that
picture before yeah that was my great-grandfather's it's still there is what you're saying the BM is still there how have I never noticed this drive look at that I'll be daring once you once you go look at it now now see you yeah you can't miss it it's got a bunch of trees
Abes or no they kind some kind of Cedars okay that are prominent right along in a row okay and there was a couple of flags out there I noticed orange flags at one point that must be part of this project maybe or they were at least yeah looking
marking things M so that's what that was that was part of that Mill site interesting what and what's the reason for wanting to get rid of it to let the it doesn't doesn't flow like the river the river doesn't do this anymore
ID it comes in and then somehow escapes I how it gets out of there prot draining basically all right interesting I can forward this to anybody who wants to read it I'd like to read it so you're not getting this is the only one I got
just going forward the digital version send it to me too I would I'd be interested in reading that cool I didn't even print it I asked to because a poor man's damn removal I'm spending too much money on ink cre the
way that floods out there though see that water goes right over the road there a lot yeah look see cirle right there is what they're talking about that little dinky piece of thing that's all they're talking about that little spot
there right Welling yeah so water doesn't go into there unless it's high enough to get over the bird to you and la and then when it does it's kind of trapped in there y you can look it doesn't come out the back anymore because there's no there's no Mill there's no Mill no Mill
so so they want to take this out so that that it opens that all up to the tide to tital flow yeah so everything above it doesn't have it either everything up uphill from there interesting I'm not sure
upill is that much uphill theread four Rock Bridge it's real flat in there clever of them take advantage of the high tide drop the water question out the back rill and and and a couple of
Sawmills on that property the project is for Mass division of fisheries and wildlife for those that you are curious hey Street barrier removal project will obtain local state and
federal authorization for the project notifying the tribal and the historic during these early stages it's not asking us to do anything I think it's just notifying in I suppose
if we had a Nutty fit about something that we' have to contact our s yeah all right all right notion reir interesting I like that face thanks I couldn't figure out how they
got the water out but then somebody they fill it from this end and then they empty it around going through the only problem is must have raised H with any kind of Machinery that was running through cuz it's salt water okay yeah well it's also right we got this
request is also go ahead we're moving on I got this request I have no idea why we getting this so as a homeschooling mom to a child out
on aut autism spectrum I'm reaching out to see if you accept accept guest submissions for your website okay what's the submission she wants to write something that might be valuable to our audience I'm not sure if she realizes
that I mean we're a town committee yeah I mean or I don't we don't our website is I mean 1635 website is the only website we have otherwise it's just the town so I mean no we don't
usually answer is no we do not accept I appreciate it maybe if we ever have a Facebook page we can have a a a post which you know I we don't have a blog or we don't have a Facebook page like an Instagram or something this is
fan little fan submission we have a small database and that's about it yeah Crow sour and Bill Deo who was at our last meeting he spoke to um Tracy and and I and he's the uh
he's on the um board and spoke to them about the stone the witch Stone right so okay um he was also going to check on the date
stone right Central feels this is mostly all talking about the um witches Stone okay all right somebody gentleman Kevin Neville he's
looking to buy excuse me fourth Central Street which is right after the road to the um library before you get to the post office so next to the um gas station no across the it's on the other side of the road is that the old the old
parsonage from the church is it that white house with the long ramp I don't know oh okay the road goes to this library is here and on the corner of the house that that house right there number four yeah
he want he wants to know about um he's talking to quoting building materials and style and I'm like I don't know what he's asking about so I asked him if he was talking about the town's demolition delay bylaw but he never got back to me
so oh wait I think four is even further down they want 500 for that my goodness it the little one it's across from like Bill's across from the church no it's like literally across from his um Main
Street uh Plumbing oh okay so like right there oh sy's house it's the one with the ramp yeah the big ramp s's house that house is anybody supposed to take conflict of interest training yes and
ethics online stuff yeah you've got an email on it it's not that bad you just have to click through it keep clicking it's not like it's new no I know it's it's just a matter of sitting I know [Laughter]
exactly so we all have to get it done so janning already did his La when you do yours you can look the com the that training yeah it talks about two boards okay so that'll be the
state rules and and the documentation is in the system right we don't have to send a certificate correct you just have to complete it and hit the button at the end that says like I did it okay it's um all new n yep and I believe I gave you
all this that has the picture of the house on it so it's um they're having romantic newort historic homes happy hour tour with no alcohol um sounds thrilling where is
this is this a house in town why do I not recognize it those I don't like those it's Greek Revival it's the mid 1800s somewhere there so now you have something to do now yeah well now I'm like where's this house it's hidden in the trees somewhere
where is it allegedly it's a new report I just don't recognize it I don't either Newbury Court apparently what does that got to do with us nothing they're they're having a tour oh and and um stuff that's been coming through the um Mass his press which I
don't probably none of you look at sometimes I do oh I um somebody was asking they asked some very interesting questions like how much does it cost for to get a cons to like do your um ddb stuff like to get
stuff on macis or things like to that effect and um they said they have they know someone that it's between $150 and $300 range I can see that per house per house for per house yeah isn't bad
because for here for this it's anyone here assess a fe is part of a ddb bylaw so they're answering with the interest of money and things but that's for doing the macis listings to to do stuff with demolition delay
bylaws so if you have the house on oh so you've got a so you need a professional research done on a proposed demolition house they're considering adding a fee to cover they're working on a revision for their ddb okay all right
so this is um Holliston that's what research so re Arch fee yeah so just so we know that things are out there so I try to get keep the stuff and save it in an a different email section I have one
called Mascus press just so if I ever have to look these things up I won't have to go through 10,000 emails so that's takes care of that part um there's just been a lot of interesting information coming through
lately about ddbs from different cities and towns Winchester is doing is changing something um so they they put the information out so I I try to read through this because you know we haven't
we haven't finished revising us yet so it's good info to have see what the other cities and towns are doing so it doesn't seem like it's a great big oh you want to what but everybody else is doing it so there you go and then in case anybody cares I I just wanted to
let you know the tree wood is having a public hearing on the 27th at 7:00 and the second floor hearing room uh cuz the trees that they're taking down and one of them is right near the father
Stone what is is it hman Road opposite one long Brook Road two trees they're pruning not taken down though just pruning one 19 Coleman Road corner of Fieldstone that's there three different
is different but this or is that the on The Farmhouse with the farmhous is yeah there so this Coleman Road at the corner of Fieldstone there a 48 in Oak they're pruning there's 19 Coleman Road there's one Oak that they're pruning the Coleman Road opposite one long Brook Road
there's two trees they're Pro pruning um so it's only there's a Central Street ash tree being removed Graham Avenue they're removing a tree um they're removing a tree between um 181
and 131 Middle Road 114 and 116 Elm Street and Corsa Brook Drive at the culde they're removing a damag tree so just so in case anybody's has a Nutty fit of just cuz
sometimes we do not want some of these trees to be going down if we can out it so um all for pruning and maintenance okay that was your agreed and we got a request we got a notification asking how do we get permission to have something
on the upper green I had no answer for that s what SEL so it's actually there's a form like an event is that what they're asking have event there's a form to fill out and then it gets presented to insigned by the select board because they are going to have or they're hoping
to have a two the 250th celebration of the anniversary of the send off of the Quebec Expedition from Newbury and Newbury Port Jack this will take place in the weekend
of September 19th and um we we need permission to do it to have people reenact the Revolutionary War encampment on the upper green I think that's so cuz um I remember last people don't
see it that there's that Big Stone there and it's Benedict Donald and they go Benedict Donald I go well he was good then he was a good General then we liked him then that's why but then he started listening to his wife yeah so so that's that's what that was about and now I found out that there's a form so I got
the for to the to this Jack and um Jack so they want to do that when this may um did you say when September 19th September okay so I told him to keep us that you know to keep us at um appraised of how things we
remember that see if we can get like I don't know some involvement or yeah that's I said we' be very know what's going on and um to let us know as things progressing on so it should be interesting that would be fun something fun yeah no I'm all
about like you know next year's the 250th of the country too we should do something I mean I know that's not our town but still dear calling this is from National Museum survey reminder I'm like survey
reminder when did we get a survey thing on January 27 The Institute of Museum and Library Services launched the national museum survey the First Federal data collection specifically designed
for the museum field hence they want us to do this form take a survey about the lower green schoolhouse so it's out there okay so are they going to send it to us so we have to go online
and do it it's on it's CLI there take the Sur please click here I wonder information you can go to wwwi ms.gov
nms so I don't know I think we should I think we should get it listed in there our school is not listed I've looked at looked it up and it's not on any of the uh inventories National or state or anything one of one of the things one of
the things got submitted and it didn't ever make it into the macis and we don't know why it got submitted I have a copy of it nothing happened we don't know why cuz all those people are it was a long time ago I think it was when they were
getting ready to redo the building well there were like 140,000 one room School houses and and TW and in 1919 and and about 100 years later there's 400 left amazing and even fewer on their original site a lot of them
been picked up and moved over here yep we're not only on the original site but we're on the original site where the last school H was was to so do it's amazing double dut really rare and we're not on any register El do takes less
than an hour okay they said yeah i' like to look at least looking at what it I I will I can certainly send the email to anybody else want to see it or I'm
good yeah I'd like to see it I will send that along to other folk um this is like this was like just whipped it and as Lana already spoke we got an email from um Jen D saying saying that she is
leaving and um Friday the 14th she until a new local government programs coordinator is hired you can contact the main Mass historical Commission phone and email address with local government questions and she gives
the information in case people don't because they were just so used to to go to her so that'll be interesting I hope hope she did a good job in handing off the review of our document well she's you know she was very
competent we've got the name if we know who's who's doing it and then um I asked Chrissy if they had if they have any kind of a map for the solar thing that we talked about last month on Scotland Road and she said she asked
Peter and he stated it's in the planning board project and it's still in the planning phase and it's going through planning with the state nothing with building yet um next time he she says next time she sees
Daniel Kristen she'll check with them and um let us know what's going on or if we need to know anything with it so all right well keep that somewhere we we think of it in three months we'll call my contact her again and ask her
again so she's pretty good with keeping me up to date on Stephan me we've been we bonded so um I think I please I think the the mail I mean I was like my phone's sping but I don't
see what about this uh Dam thing and Road Dam dam removal oh yeah I think everybody's got it in their packets the locken road Dam [Music]
letter Consulting update oh is that it I think so no that's the bylaw says they want to identify historical architectural properties while they tore them all down so nothing
left just a rock wall Noah yeah yeah that's that thing lock and Road D removal project that's what this open is yeah that is like way too much
information somebody really wants to see it Al rer restoration project lock and Road Dam and as far as I know that that's been in the works for quite some time really right paragraph three it says no historic properties are
identified in the AP uh River up land recommended yeah yeah I don't see anything that involves us no but just letting this I don't like
people go did you know they were tearing that down you didn't tell us that you know what would happen the one thing I guess we should probably at least have a file folder with this oh shocking I should have another file folder in my house we love it right along the whole back wall of my dining room there boxes
of historical [Music] information J we're just going to bury her with I'm going to just say that as far as I know I think we got through all the me I've got one piece of incoming
correspondence here that you don't know about uh a donation for the uh historic commission and as uh it is uh I am pleased to send this came to my mailbox via the post office send you the enclosed ashtray com
commemorating protection number one of old Newbury firefighting days the svanir uh comes to you from the collection of my late husband Nelson L Dion JR who is an average student collector an Enthusiast of fire history I have no idea about its Providence well Nelson
was best known for his award-winning Salem history collection now at Salem State universary archives you will always kept an eye out for historic firefighting items with uh really I was with Nelson one more
than one more occasion when we dropped by the fire station Morgan have to see some of the collective items there uh um want to please to know he would be pleased to know that this modest object is in your
hands so we'll find a shelf for it at the make sense should we put it out there cuz that's where all the historical firefighter stuff is well it's across the street in the museum that's what I'm saying I would think it would make more sense to be in
these locations verus our school house personally and I think she might it sounds like she might appreciate that too like I have no problem that that she gave it to us in general but I think it should be sure historically taken care
of so what do you so what are the suggestions all I'm concerned with tonight is sending a gift card U not GI thank you correspondence to her that we accepted it thank you y I mean cuz like what else is out there it has plenty of space there's not much out there in
those little cabinets and I'm not I never even been across the street it's awful I should I should want we should do a field trip someday I know you love it yeah I've never just you know I've gone to The Butchery thousand times but I've never I will s thank okay
just I me an ashtray is a relic nowadays you never seen ashtray I'm actually selling in the store now I'm don't want displayed in our school they're so vintage they're so you know so I will send hurry thank
you that's nice I mean it's nice that people I I think a toss and stuff or whatever that they give it to thinking if somebody might want it you know which is nice um the only other thing I see on the agenda here is ferry house high road
work stoppage yeah they stop st again yeah they they we talked about that last month yeah yeah okay but it's continu they've got the preservation restriction on
it has and they were going to take the piece and move it back no they said no they were refused so that's their pervie they have the Restriction rest know so and I get I believe nothing to do with elevations now not allow to take apart
at all nothing W done hey'll better them than us there'll be there'll be a house for sale that's yeah that's unfortunate it is but they knew they had a restriction on that house and they bought it so people can't act all surprise or they'll just come up
with another it just bothers me that they tried to do it right and they they us got us involved early on and everything yeah they did try to do the right thing they us and asked I'm sure they spend a fortune with that architect and same with the folks that at the end
of the um the green yeah they came to us they talked to us they tried to you know so everything street view is what's really the most important to me I mean I even with the bond they did the sliding things when they're closed you don't even know there's anything there it's a
garage you know that's all we ask is a little cooperation and a little caring about people want to come here cuz it's so historic and then they can't wait to destroy it I don't understand the concept it confuses me so yeah anything else on this list will that help us all
no did the very Stone we did that school house the roof I told you about the roof right that's all done yep okay so I know we're running into overtime so I won't be labor this I brought something for show and tell and I want to encourage
other people to maybe we the last five minutes of our meeting should try once when people I to do show and tell it's pertaining to something that we've dealt with and sometimes things in life come
and find you at the damnedest Times um so we're cleaning up my father's house and this we've been talking about the Bay Road Old Bay Road stones that we just fixed so as
um so my great-grandfather Channing Howard of Easton [Music] um was uh an engineer that built a lot of the highways and things all over
Massachusetts but he also specialized he was the head of the historic Commission in winthrip Mass uh and sort of makes me smirk that now I'm I'm the head here he was the head in winr Mass um and he did lots of research work and one of his
projects was the Bay State Road this one that I found cleaning my father's attic this is the Bay State road that goes south from Boston Mass to Plymouth mass and identifying every single one of the stones he did this work in
1958 so this just landed in my hands and3 seriously 13 so it shows pictures just2 read about that so he also did something like this about so there was
another Bay State road that goes out through Wellsley and Route 9 and then course the one coming up here to us he's um he was I don't know how much he was involved in the Northerly one but it's
really strange that the man that bought originally settled my three houses in Byfield a hundred years later Sam judge Samuel Su comes back and wants to preserve the stones and record them on
the Bay State Road coming north M all tying this thing all together in a strange way that's pretty neat that is co it's pretty neat nice I love this stuff which is why we're on this
commission yeah we didn't like this Stu the what's the blueprint they did it on the back did you really look at that know what the blueprint is it's probably of some building in Boston my grandfather and my my last three generations did engineering
the uh Damas water tower all the water lines and Sewer lines through Metro Boston part and parcel of the uh elevated what is now what the elevated Highway through Boston
Seaport um Channing Howard designed the Narrow Gauge Railway in Plymouth and Sagamore kidding that goes right up uh near the the the Cape Cod Canal and that hold area around there so it's quite
interesting I'm still my sister gave me a tub that's this big yeah piles and piles how's it going to the house uh we haven't haven't cracked that yet steady we're just we're just doing research at
this point Sunset Road cour is a Str Pleasant Street it's got all the chimneys contract line contract limits do you give her a Picasso she's really interested in the frame
well my eye like back so I didn't realize it was anything on the back so I'm looking now yeah well CU like it's a real blueprint like you don't even see those anymore you know blueprint and I remember that when they were blueprints yeah my D and built
houses so that's show and tell very nice are you going to have that frame see yeah uh yeah I'm got to figure out what to do with them it's all just landed on my lap and that's when 1921 families were
migratory in the summertime CU we didn't have air conditioning so the Howard family which settled East in Massachusetts they all went to summer time you went to the cape the men went to Boston every day and and the rest of the family went to the cape and if you
and or and or the White Mountains or wiip and those areas up there that's what the railroad was for that's how you moved about the state it was hot there was no air conditioning in the city everybody had to get out of the city and that's how they everybody spent
their Summers y Happ in Mel ironically people came to Melrose from Boston to get away from the heat the summer I'm like hello like there's much more green there though that's all it need the cuz the BB families were big there BB estate
was up the street from my house another great big one in Wake field next town over which at least has Lake quow there but we only had like little ponding thing I don't but yeah just to get things you don't think abouty Farms is all like summer houses you know think
like that there used to be a huge Hotel Farms very Som so so I should I've got my show in tell I think M you know the 1635 map that was put together that we that we have a 11 by 17 of I think I
have the pencil sketch of that that they that were put in together uh I bought it at the Barton sale fabulous I haven't I haven't opened it because I because it it's like it's like
tissue paper yeah just waiting to die and I I had to figure out how to get it open and get it scanned mhm fabulous uh because just so we've got it and then and then maybe maybe figure out how to mount it on something yeah but but
that's what it looks like fabulous yeah good score yeah and I got a hand I got a handwritten uh uh mathematics book made on on homemade paper no kidding nice love it very nice it goes through linear
algebra all right I'll let's a motion to adjourn I move that we adjourn second I'll second that all in favor I I let do it