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special meeting of the uh new library board of trustees to discuss the um recent resignation of our director and how we proceed from here. That's the focus of today's meeting. So

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>> I'm Alexander Burke and >> I'm Terry L. Richard. Okay. All right. >> Chair. >> All right. So, her resignation

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is uh she leaves June 4th. So, we need to start the process for um you know getting people uh on board. I've got one, but that's okay. I'll >> That's okay then. Oh, it's nice printed

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small. >> Um, >> so I guess um in brief conversation we had last week I guess we have to post internally in the town for 5 days uh and then it can

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be posted worldwide. So I I is I guess the question I didn't ask that day was is there a format that the town uses for internal postings? >> Yeah. my experience when Terry and I

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worked as uh Jean stepped away and uh we were able to post in the bulletin board opposite >> the in the entryway to clerk's office

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>> a one-pager >> okay >> indicating that the position was open and we posted it uh Okay. Was it on any any kind of >> materialized? So, >> was it on any kind of formal letter head or structure or anything?

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>> No, it was pretty. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Although I think the letter had issues. >> Yeah, >> probably a good idea. >> Okay. Um maybe stop and talk to Diane on the way back to see if there's any format that they want to use. >> Sure. >> Okay.

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>> Um Okay. Other than that, I think the the process is we go through that as soon as we can get that posted internally and the fiveday count can start, right? >> We can then advertise in all of the the professional locations. I think that that are

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available to us. And >> and you thankful put together a nice document actually. >> This is this is what um is based upon what Dick wrote. >> Okay. two years ago prior to

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>> for hiring Haley's Haley's position. Okay. >> And uh I retained the concepts and just reworked >> Okay. >> the wording. >> Yeah. >> Um >> and uh the thing that grabbed my attention, the number you put at the end, >> I made it up.

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>> Okay. Well, since then, >> I got this from Tracy. These are the ranges. It's It's obviously dollars per hour >> and have the funding.

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>> Yeah. So, we're looking at a a range for the director's position is uh 31 and 11 cents to as high as 4822 with the mid being 3967. So I can I guess we can take a look at

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that and determine what we want to put in for uh I don't know what that translates into. So I guess are the positions based on I think they're 32 hours for to be considered fulltime.

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Um, you know, I I guess the question I have and I guess I didn't pay attention to it is do they work they work 40 hours fulltime? I believe >> I think so too. >> That's one question I'm going to go ask the director. I'll be right back.

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>> 35 hours. >> Is it 35? >> I don't know. >> I don't either. >> Okay. Now, this is part of the budget proposal which

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Haley gave us back in the fall when she was along with all the other department heads um creating a an FY27 budget. And you can see what the hourly is

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>> that she was reaching for in 27. on the one hand. Oh, I didn't bring it. It was here. It's here. Wake up. All

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right. what she's done with all of the various positions, projecting them out to FY27 and coming up with two numbers here. This

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297 was fully funded last night. >> Wow. However, this is the wages that will need to be paid according to this

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and this is the deficit 35 >> and >> it's 35. >> Thank you. >> Okay. >> Okay. Now, I was just being pedagogical here. >> Okay. Um I brought along

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last year's budget proposal >> Haley had worked up >> and um two things here the FY rate for the director and the FY27 weight rate for the director.

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>> Now down here has gathered all of the FY27 wages. Some of these are there said they're all union, >> right? >> With own exception. >> Yeah. The director was going when it's not >> exactly contracted benefiting.

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>> Um but this 287 number 297 whatever it is >> that was fully funded last night. >> Yes. >> But this is the projection of what lit wages which will need to be paid. >> Right. So we have to make up that difference.

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>> Exactly. with with state aid. And I think that was the intent. I think that was her intent. >> The difference between >> what was reality based on You're right. based on the uh union contract. >> Sure. >> And what the town appropriated,

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>> right? >> So, so if we change so that we have to make up that difference. So, we've got about 23,000 basically. Uses to 22,000 and change for to take out of state aid.

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>> Yeah. >> Right now, if we change the um depending what the director is going to make, that probably would have to come out of state aid also.

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Okay. State aid we had what about 57? Uh >> yeah. Yeah, >> about 57 >> 574 >> still hanging in there. >> That's this >> that that's Yeah, that's this current fiscal year. >> That's April. >> Yeah, this is April. >> This is an April report. And

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>> so we still have >> what what she did is uh we had we started with um Oh, okay. We exceeded the budget. All right. >> Yeah. >> We had budgeted five and we w uph 10.2

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two out of um out of state aid >> till April >> till April. Um so we'll have to get clarification if there's any if we anticipate taking any more out of um out of state aid for this fiscal year so we

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have a better understanding of what we have available going into the next fiscal year. >> Okay. The other point I think you know Haley's identified the hourly for us here >> in her own job

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>> right >> and >> Yep. midpoint here 3967 >> right she's above that >> she is already >> yeah okay yeah >> so >> so yeah so that's that would be putting that position at 766

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for u for the next fiscal year right >> based on on this and if we choose to we can go higher um up to the what was the 48

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is that tracing 48. So we've got we've got about a $6 per hour leeway to work with from where Haley's at now to where we potentially could go with somebody in the future. So

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um what does that translate into? So it's 48 22 35. So that's 16 87

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per week. 52 weeks. >> We do pay for vacations. >> Yeah. >> Done some while ago. >> If I can figure this out. Okay. If I could figure out how to use this

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machine, we'd be all set. Okay. Okay. Oh, Jesus. Supposed to clear when they hit clear. >> God, don't say that. >> I know. >> No, I won't. evaporates immediately. >> Okay. Times 52.

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No, that can't be right. I got 87 877 for 52 weeks at 35 hours at 48. See if you get the same number, Alex. >> 87760.

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>> Yeah, I get 87760. Okay, so that that is okay. Um, that's good. I wanted to know based on where we're at, >> what we should set the higher number at.

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So, it's 87 763 is what at the highest range, the highest number uh for that position. Um, I don't think I'd want to go there because um, we can't afford that. >> Um, but I I would probably set the

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higher number at 80. She's at if she's going to be at 76 based on our projected budget for next year. I would start with that. I'd do 76. The range that you have, I would probably do 76 to to 80.

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see what we get. Oh, you want to put just 76 and a 78 and see what we get for a response. >> I would say that >> I would favor staying off a baby.

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>> Yeah. >> Okay. >> I would I mean, we're kind of sort of trolling anyway. >> Well, we did that. We had that comparison for the 10 communities >> and everybody was 80 and above. We were

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and we were the only ones below that. >> Correct. >> So again >> the mitigating factors are you know the care and maintenance of the building although requiring attention as you know >> is outsourced to James. >> Yep.

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>> And DPW. Okay. Right. >> Mitigating factor is only six FTEES full-time equivalent employees. >> Yep. >> I mean it's from that point of view also

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small. >> Okay. But still, even though the the the building issues are handled by James, they still fall on the director to that's why we're meeting with James next week >> and the trustees

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>> and the trustees. >> So, it still falls on them, but they still have to, >> you know, chase that. And I guess my my concern is that, you know, we don't get into this cycle of revolving door. I mean, we've been there. It's a it's a

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great jumping off point for people. >> Nothing but >> I know and you know >> if we can break that >> but I I'm not sure even if 80 is enough to in today's market >> you know to keep somebody here long term.

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>> What time is the meeting next week? >> The 20. We're not meeting next week. >> We're meeting the 20th. >> Well, that is something we probably ought to talk about. Um we need to reconstitute ourselves after the election. Yes. >> Not that there'll be changes,

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>> Alex, >> necessarily. Depends on the will of the trustee group. Um, but >> yeah. So, I guess if if we could have a goal to get this posted

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internally by next week, >> this is what Drake had posted for salary range. >> Whoa. >> Well, yeah. >> Whoa.

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>> Just so that the camera knows, we're looking at a range of $71,617 as the low end and the high end is $10214. >> So that's quite a range. >> Huge. >> Huge. Again, Drake, it's a much larger

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community. Um, I'm sure they're, you know, they're full-time employees, the hours of operation and all of that are, you know, >> somewhat comparable. >> Yeah. So >> somewhat >> you know I think going forward I think

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we we if we went with a higher higher range a higher salary our level of expectation in terms of what we would expect of the director would may be different >> and it's consent with what description Dick and I have put together here. >> Yeah.

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>> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, no, it's um I I think the last time we did this, there was no salary indicated at all in the posting, my recollection.

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>> I think that's true. >> Yeah. I don't think we posted a I think it was based on experience. >> Well, then why don't we use that for >> I believe that was Yeah. I may have a copy in the post.

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>> I had it someplace. I know. And I >> But I don't have it. >> I didn't print it, but I thought I thought that's what it said. But yeah, >> that's actually kind of shrewd. >> Yeah, >> cuz the

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description of the of our expectations based on what Haley has done is doing, >> right? um pretty clear as was mentioned our candidate may well be not a current

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director. >> Right. Right. >> In a similarly size >> Yeah. >> but the assistant director, >> right? >> And and when we post this internally, >> okay, we're going to have an internal

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candidate. >> Oh, I would think so. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And uh you know and then obviously we provide uh you know candidates that are qualified. We we establish a an interview process.

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>> Of course it show >> we'll interview anybody who shows. >> Yeah. And and I think your point is well taken. I think our candidates are not going to be people who are serving as directors someplace else unless they're

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in a community even smaller than ours. >> That's a western mass community. >> Yeah. >> So the expectation is it's going to be somebody who is you know looking to advance in the profession and is now

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currently serving in probably an assistant director's position. And they see this as a as everybody else has as a stepping stone which is which the is the nature of who we are. >> Exactly.

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>> And if we can be a uh um that creating a good uh training environment for these people that they go on and serve the communities they ultimately serve. >> Yeah. Good for us. >> What's the compensation range for our

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assistant director? 31 to 33. >> 31. >> So, >> no, she's at 59, you know. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Soft. >> Oh, no. Absolutely. Absolutely.

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>> Point being some ads and again back back to your observation. >> Yeah. Some of these in in libraries which are apt to discourage a a candidate to us probably are making a whole lot more than that. >> But no, absolutely. I think that's

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that's what makes not only the fact that they'd be here as a director, >> the salary comparison to what they're probably making as an assistant director someplace >> would be attractive. So I think >> we can doable. >> Yeah, I think we can do

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>> uh we can do either we can do put no no salary >> uh at all. I just say uh salary based on whatever the phrase was in the last doc and I thought it said based on uh

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experience um and go with that uh >> or just salary negotiable. Salar is negotiable based on experience >> you know and again benefits here are in this community are good >> yes

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>> town pays 70% yeah of the uh >> 70 75 >> yeah who knows and of course the other phenomena that sometimes surfaces a prospective employee is healthured >> elsewhere >> spousally >> right >> and so that

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>> yeah that's not an attraction >> well that offers Right. >> Um negotiations >> with the candidate. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Okay. >> So yeah, I think that is

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>> and you said so to >> leave it leave it >> some negotiable based on experience. >> Sure. >> Okay. >> Sure. >> Okay. >> Simple words. >> Yeah. No. Absolutely. Absolutely. >> And it's an exempt position. Am I correct? when I write that.

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>> Yeah. Meaning >> page two. >> Yeah. >> Non-union. >> No. Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. Yes, it is. >> It's actually the only one that's >> within this. >> Yeah. >> Department >> department that is >> So, it's exempt. >> Exempt. >> Benefited.

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>> Benefited. Absolutely. >> Contractual. >> Yes. >> Contracted. >> Contracted. Yes. Yes. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> And I wrote that and then I went to the salary range. It says change salary range. >> Mhm.

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>> Just sell. Yeah. Yeah. >> Now that's Yeah. >> Good. I like I like I like the way that goes. >> Okay. Take that. Just Yeah. say this is uh

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this position is exempt, benefited, contracted. >> This is the one you posted last time. >> Is it? >> Yeah. The hell I did with it, I don't know. >> Did it have a salary range in it?

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>> That's what you wrote. I can't find the front page though. Okay. Salary dependent on qualifications and experience. >> Yeah. >> Includes benefits. >> Oh, here it is. This is the front page.

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>> Oh, you Oh, duh. >> Okay. This Yeah. Did I send this out to you recently? >> Yes. >> I think I sent that out to everybody, but I'm You know, >> I printed it, of course. I'm old fashioned. >> Oh, no. No. I I wish I had cuz cuz to go

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find it again where it is on my machine will take me half a day now. >> Oh, it's it's terrible. I come across these things randomly. >> Yeah, that's that's what Dick wrote. >> Okay.

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>> You sure are not going to have a meeting next week just in case. >> Um, but we may meet again next week. uh there's another special meeting to continue this discussion if need be. Um >> okay

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>> and you know we're meeting with James on Wednesday at 10:00 to go over the status of various projects. One of them was the painting of the lines in the parking lot which they did last night. So that that's >> that'd be done.

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>> That's done. But there are a number of other things like we got some bulbs out in here that we got to talk to them about. We've been >> asking for those for a while. And there's a few other things. Uh they're supposed to be putting some kind of um

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ultraviolet shielding on some of the windows upstairs because this if you're sitting at the circulation desk at a certain time of the day and the sun comes through this window, you can't see. And it's also starting to fade the books that it's hitting. So actually we

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have the material that has to be put on the windows and you know >> needs and we just need to qu you know coordinate with him to get it put up. >> Yes. >> There's another number of other things he had mentioned. So >> meeting at 10 >> meeting him at 10. Yes. Yeah.

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>> On the 13th. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, do you want to do a special meeting at 11:00 and we can post that and continue this conversation at that point? >> It's prudent. >> Okay.

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>> Okay. No, I I think No, >> I have availability here. So, >> no, I do too. So, >> all right. Um, >> and if Melissa's back, maybe she can join us, too. I'm not sure when she's coming back. Well, once we post a meeting, whether we call it a special or

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uncertain, >> y >> we can call it a regular meeting because again, we need to reconstitute ourselves. >> Um >> Oh, yeah. >> We know that anybody can sign the warrant on the 14th, >> right? >> But

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>> it would be good to confirm the chair. >> Okay. Yeah. I don't didn't realize I forgot that we were actually voting the day before probably >> on the 12th. >> On the 12th. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I'll be here in this room. >> Um

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>> and I'll come >> 6:30 to 11:30. Yes. Good. >> But I don't know if Melissa will be >> back by then. Okay. It sounds a little tight. >> And Patty's working. So >> yeah. >> Yeah. So then it' be the three of us

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again possibly to have the quorum. So Okay. Okay. I wouldn't really wouldn't want to reconstitute until we have the full board. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So we keep it special. >> So we keep this special and then everybody can >> Yeah. Everybody's indicated they can make the 20th. So we will make that our

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regular monthly meeting and that would be one of the items on the agenda. >> Other new business or not. >> Yeah. Another what time are we going to do it? >> Uh I believe we're meeting at 4:30. >> Okay.

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>> On the 20. >> Yeah. Um should we just look at these things and critique them? Sure. >> That's what we're we're here for. >> All right. So,

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>> do you need you need more copies of this? This is the >> That's sticks. >> That's Yeah, >> I don't really. >> Okay. >> I'll make a copy if I need. >> Okay. Um, so let's

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what I'm what I'm thinking, Dick. If we can come to agreement that this significant rework can be posted, >> we can emerge from this meeting A with a plan to post

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>> and B with directions to ourselves because even if we post it today or tomorrow, we got to go five, >> it's going to go five business days, >> which is >> tomorrow, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Thursday cuz Fridays they're

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closed. >> Exactly. >> Yeah. >> So, >> so the earliest that we could possibly post this on the MVLC or the MBL MBLC is >> the following week. >> Thursday. >> It's the day after our next special

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meeting. >> Yeah. Yeah. That week. >> Yeah. Okay. Let's take let's take a look at this. See if there's any other changes we want to make in it. And uh >> Yeah. Please. Do we have to reference new director?

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>> We don't. That's where we're eating it. >> Okay. >> Can we just say the director? >> Strike the word. >> Mhm. Okay, that what just looking at

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previous one to provide uh you know local businesses to provide a community and patron centered technologically innovative library Okay. Technologically the address

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that says it. >> Yeah, it does. Took concept. >> Yep. Yep. >> Worked them. I like this phrase >> from prek deeply. >> That's retired.

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>> Little little creativity there. >> PreK. probably ought to spell that out. And I was thinking too, it might be better to say nursery school age, something on that order. >> People would preschool.

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>> Preschool. >> Preschool is fine. >> Yeah. >> PreK. Yeah, preschool is fine. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, I think so, too. >> Okay. And what do you want to put for the

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salary wage? Um pretty much what tech >> I I will rewrite to read this position is exempt comma benefited comma and contracted period salary dependent on

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qualifications and experience. Yes that's that's the phrase he used yeah as I said I stole all his concept. >> Oh no no that's fine. Yeah reconfigured the verbiage around it. But I wanted to strike strongly your

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point always. >> Mhm. >> Community center. >> Yes. >> And that comes through here. >> Yep. >> And also based upon what we've seen Haley knew

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her creativity with the reports >> here. Yeah. where she basically taken it off of us, >> right? Absolutely. And that's Yeah. You know, the ideal ideal candidate will

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Yeah. The applicant will also possess expertise in budget supervision including preparation of annual budgets. There's also this whole putting together all of these documents. I mean, this is I find this very helpful

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in terms of understanding where we are on a month-to-month basis. >> Well, here's your annual. >> This is the annual, right? And there's your monthly >> monthly. Yeah. >> And those matrices. >> Yeah. >> Erin started. >> Yes. And she's refined them. >> Oh, she sure has. >> Yeah. And that's, you know,

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>> in response, frankly, to our observations. >> No, no, she's been responsive to that. Absolutely. Yeah. >> Yeah. So, and do we have to reference anything about her or the director being

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qualified to provide the reporting necessary to the Commonwealth? >> Uh, I kind of touch on that >> here with the MBLC. >> The MBLC, you're right. Time regression reports. Yeah. In the >> only wonder I had was whether I should

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spell that out >> and then it occurs to >> It's broad enough. It's whatever it is, that's what you got to do in terms of you're responsible for these reports. Whatever they whatever the reporting requirements are

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clearly states you're you're responsible for it. >> Should I spell out Massachusetts >> Board of Library Commissioners? >> Yeah. Or >> in Marramac Valley. Yeah. >> Yeah.

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>> Yeah. Yeah. >> Or >> if >> the ideal or any candidate is reading and doesn't understand, >> we don't want them. >> Yes. >> I'm sorry. >> No, >> no, no, no. But that's true. You're

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absolutely right. Because when I see MBLC and then I have to stop and think, what is that? What do they what does it translate to? Oh, okay. >> Where is it between Victor >> and uh Theta? Yeah. >> So, and I will tell you this, if I spell

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them out, it's going to push the uh posting to another page. >> So, >> yeah, >> part of the reason to cling with the >> Yeah. >> acronyms. >> Let's leave it with the acronyms. I'm good with that. >> Yeah, >> Terry.

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>> Okay, Terry. >> I have to think every time they come by. this. Yeah. Actually, interesting. Dick did he did put in Mass Board of Library Commissioners and then in parenthesis MBLC.

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Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Up up at the top. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> Yeah. As you have with the Newbury Town Library, NL. >> Okay. what he did there with, you know, Dick

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used a passive voice which I react against. >> Verbs are the strongest features of our language. >> So, active voice utilizing verbs. Additionally,

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um, one of his paragraphs ended ended in a preposition in and on the one hand, I don't like that stylist, which is me. But I'm also reminded of Winston Churchill's reaction

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to that sort. He said, "Some folks criticize closing a paragraph." He said, "With a preposition, and that is the kind of nonsense I will

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not put up with. Is that wonderful?" Anyway, so but I do anyway my peculiarities. >> All right. Now the question is if we could post this same posting in town hall that

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would make life so much easier if we go out and put it up today of tomorrow >> um you know and get it started. So I guess we need to get clarification on that. >> But other than that other than changing the the dollar amount I I like the what

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does she say experience? Okay. Trusted people. Other than that, you know, we're looking for a minimum of a bachelor's degree and that was I guess that's what we were looking at in the last uh >> correct and they just copied. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No,

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>> I guess range you're not going to get an >> right. Yeah. If you're looking at somebody that's got a masters, you know, but it's they need to have the certification for librarianship. So, you know. Yeah, that is required. Okay. Okay. Um,

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>> somewhere along the line, did I write that? >> Requesting a cover letter, resume, and contact information for references. >> Mhm. >> Is that too bold?

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I don't think so. >> No. I mean, we're going to ask him for that anyway, >> right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Simplify the process. Tell us who we can talk to and >> Well, exactly what you went through with them was with

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>> Right. Right. Exactly. They reached out and >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Okay. All right. I think those changes to it, I think, you know, >> get them done. >> Okay. I mean that's just a matter of sitting with the word processor finishing it then what? >> Yeah. And then

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>> printing it >> print it uh you know and um in terms of where where it should be posted eventually for the worldwide search. Uh we can make that deter MVLC is one. >> Uh MBLC is the other and I think Haley

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mentioned they may be two or three other professional sites. Um the only question is is the format for town hall. Uh well again we'll start if you want to we can start >> maybe this needs to be on as you said earlier

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letterhead >> a letterhead of some kind. I don't know if they have a format that they use. So that that's what we're >> Do we hall? >> Do we have stationer here? >> I believe so. >> The new retail library. Why not use that? >> I I again I don't know what they what

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they do down there. >> Okay. So we need to find >> clarify that. Yeah. >> Let us we need let's grab a couple of sheets. >> Yeah. No, absolutely. >> Just in case you can print and post >> post. Okay, that sounds good. >> Okay. Um I guess the other outstanding

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issue would be the um the process once we've posted this and we start getting responses. Uh what we have done traditionally is we've created a search committee usually consisting of u two members of the uh the board to do the

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initial screening and winnowing down the process. And once we come down to however many we determine we we feel we should interview uh we can do that as the full board or we can do as we've done in the past take the recommendation

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of the search committee >> uh and go from there. >> I'm I'm partisan to full board interviews >> and partisan to interviews involving staff. Mhm.

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>> I'm partisan to interviews with town hall personnel with with Tracy. >> Mhm. >> And u Diane. >> Yep. >> Both have offered >> Yep. >> You know, and >> I like that. >> Yeah. >> I'm glad you do.

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>> Yeah. I mean, I think >> I think it'll take time to get everybody together, but that's all right. >> And that's okay. Yeah. Yeah. It may take a little longer, but uh that's fine. I have no problem doing that. Um,

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I guess I'm a little less in favor of public meetings for interviewing people, but uh, yeah. >> Well, they don't need to be. >> Yeah. Well, if it's more than if it's more than three members, it's a public meeting. Yeah. That's and that's okay.

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>> On the third hand, >> Yeah. >> public is the taxpayers of the town. >> Oh, no. Absolutely understood. >> You know, I understand that >> and frankly given public response to most things. I

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mean, you heard Woody last night >> on the whole zoning thing. One person showed up. >> Yeah. >> The most critical. >> No, I think the engagement is I know I understand. Yeah. that and and fine if if that's what we want to do that's and

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we may have I think in this last instance I think the search committee came down to one candidate basically >> and therefore >> negated the need really for us to interview multiple >> express to me informally >> that uh

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>> Beth and Dick >> had only one candidate they would recommend >> and it was Haley Yeah. >> Winner. >> Yeah. No, that's so I think what has one of the focuses going forward is

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a relationship has been established between the library and town government that did not exist before. >> Right. >> And that is going to be essential going

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forward. It has worked. It has worked so smoothly and respectfully that >> personality >> personality absolutely >> you know really and truly u I mean Don and Tracy are not hard to work with >> they're not

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>> they aren't I mean you >> they're you work there >> yeah truly truly so >> so but if you know if you perceive somebody as the enemy it makes it uh >> harder to go forward >> more challenging and that that has been

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overcome and yeah and I think your your your comment about >> them being part of an interview step I have no problem with that all it makes good sense >> of course >> then the relationship is the relationship has begun at that point

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>> sure >> other department heads you know Chief Davis >> and uh >> Chief Fischer >> were interviewed >> Mhm. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.

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>> So, >> and it's important because >> Yeah. >> All right. So, we'll have to determine who is going to constitute or become the the search committee that um >> Yeah. >> Well, I guess when we have a full board, then we'll make that decision. >> Okay.

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>> And that's >> the 20th. Yes. >> Well, good. I don't know. We got anything else to discuss about this at this point? I don't think so. I think the next uh >> the next step is >> we'll meet again. We going to stop

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>> consult with Diane. >> Yep. >> Find out how >> format >> three pages of three sheets of library. >> We can grab that on the way out. >> Okay. And that's going to run the post into two pages, too. >> Right. >> Um >> that's that's good. >> It'll work. >> Yeah, it'll work.

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>> And um >> and I'll look for Melissa when she comes. >> Yes. She only told us twice. >> Yeah. >> Remember when did she leave? >> Last week sometime.

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>> Yes. >> And she was going to be gone for a couple of weeks, I thought she said. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. The thing that registers here is 11 days. >> Yeah. Okay. >> But that may be a mistake. >> Yeah. Yeah. Oh, good. So, a motion to adjurnn. Motion to adjourn.

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>> Meeting over.