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Okay, I think everybody's here that's going to be here tonight. So, today is the 14th of July, 2026, and I'm Bill Hoffman, the chair of the open space committee um open space committee chair, and I'm calling to

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order um meeting tonight. Um so we have on the agenda today um after citizen queries which I see none uh we are going to approve the meeting minutes. Um then we're going to review K's scope of work for completing the plan. Um there's been

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some work on the schedule on how to complete this. Christina um put together a proposed schedule. I think there's been some um a second version that was put out um that we received this afternoon. So, we'll look at that and

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review that. Um, and then we're going to discuss the next steps. Um, assign tasks, how we're going to get there, and then updates and and adjourn. So, um, so, as I said, I don't see any

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citizens on on board or today attending the meeting. So, I'm just going to jump right to the meeting minutes. Um, those are distributed out, I think, a week or two ago. um by Satie is uh has everybody had an opportunity to review those? They're

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pretty short and sweet this time. >> Yes. >> And then if everybody has and there's no comments, I'd like to move to accept the meeting minutes. >> Seconded.

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>> Great. Okay. Um so do we want to jump right in with the scope of work for completing the plan or the schedule first? So I don't know what the is the better order of operation here. >> Um well

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we can maybe start by looking at the schedule cuz it's kind of um like K's work is kind of interwined with the schedule obviously. So maybe we can just kind of go through that.

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>> Okay. I agree. Um, so Christina did a great job in um, putting together a schedule um, and it looked good, but then I think Satie, you maybe and K, I'm not sure. Um, and Kristen kind of

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reviewed it and actually we received an email from Kristen just before the meeting with some insights on that schedule and how you guys kind of crafted that. Um, it was based on people's schedules, committee schedules and whatnot. Um, do you want to um go over the schedule so you know you're

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part of the some of these amendments? And I guess before we do that, everybody's okay with building off of Christina's version one and going right to version two. >> Yep. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Maybe do you want to share your screen,

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Satie? I couldn't share it because I'm not a host. So, but maybe you could. >> Yes, I can do that. Um, yes. And then I I couldn't figure out how to get the timeline that you had on the side cuz

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when I when we were making changes, it got messed up. But if you would like to add that back in, that would be great. I just don't know how to format that. >> No, this looks fine. >> Okay. >> Yeah, let's just use this. It's simple. >> Okay. Um, so

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we were reviewing the advice that Kay has sent us um over the last few months. Um, we reviewed our, um, advice from Melissa Cryan at DCS. Um, and we reviewed the

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workbook and um, Kay, um, just to kind of solidify that we're doing things the way that we're supposed to, um, she sent us some other plans, just to, um, to kind of hone in on like

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the fact that we're kind of, you know, this is the way that we're we're doing it the way that towns that have approved plans have done it. So um and um so the

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first thing is um K has graciously um accepted our request to um complete the plan and bring it to 100% completeness which is amazing. and um so

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that will entail um like finalizing the narrative. Um and Kristen and I will work closely with Kay to fill in any gaps um in Kay's in like the local knowledge gaps um that we can

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provide more information on. Um, and we're hoping to have that. I believe Kay said, um, early September will be, um, the soonest that that will be able to be completed, which is, which is

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amazing. Um, uh, and another task will be bringing the action plan to 100% completeness. So, um, that will be great as well. Around at the same time, I think you said K about the same time as the narrative will be complete. Okay. >> Yes.

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>> Okay. >> So, um Satie, can you just clarify that one? So, I see some notes that we would meet to discuss the final draft, but I also see an end date of August 20th for the final draft. So, which one which

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date do we are we operating under K um or Satie in terms of >> Yeah, we had Kristen and I were talking and we were like um we were just throwing dates at the wall kind of and we were like, "Oh, August 20th is when this will be done." But we clarified with Kay that it's

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going to take a little bit longer. So, um like around the beginning of September is when that will be finished. Um, so I think that's the date that we'll keep in the calendar until until

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you know we get a more specific date if that makes sense. Does that answer the question? >> Yeah. Yeah, it does. And so yeah, that sounds good. >> Okay. Um and

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so yeah, that's the first that's the first step is um Kay will complete everything except for the things that Kristen and I can help with. Um, and oh, also Kristen wanted me to

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put on here the um, Newbury Town Day where um, I think that'll be a good opportunity for the committee to get the word out about, you know, we're almost done with this plan. You know, we've been working super hard on it. We want the public's input soon. Um, so that

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would be a good time to do that. Um I don't know if I can't remember if people said they were around on August 15th, but um we can um figure that out soon. Um

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and um Kay said that after this review um and bringing the plan to its final stages um she can provide a letter from MVPC um a letter of approval.

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Um, and then we can bring the draft to a meeting and just make sure, you know, everything looks good on our end. Um and then um I discussed with Kay that um to kind

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of keep from having long monthlong periods of waiting for feedback that um we will combine the um public meeting stage and the um town

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boards and committees um stage. and the DCS uh rough review into a concurrent um time period which will allow us to get things done while we're waiting for

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feedback. Um so this I think you know with people's schedules and people going on vacation I'm going to be away last week of August, first week of September. So this I think is flexible. We don't like I want to make sure everyone feels

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good about you know when we have our public meeting. Um so this is probably the earliest that we could do it but it could be really you know any of the Tuesdays or you know Wednesdays whenever

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ends up working out for us um in September. Um, as long as we can have some more time, like leave a little bit of time at the end of this period before this before our next meeting to like incorporate the public comments that we receive.

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Um, and then yeah, we incorporate the comments from all of these groups and then we can have another meeting uh to make sure everything's looking good. Um and

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Kay will also be doing the formatting of the plans. So um that will be some point during this process. Um and then we'll incorporate the final letters of approval and then we can submit um

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hopefully before Thanksgiving um the final submission to DCS. Um, so yeah, that's that's the rough overview of the of the schedule. Um, I

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think yeah, Kristen had some some insight. Did Did everyone get a chance to read Kristen's email? I know she sent it, you know, just a couple hours ago, but um, so I'd understand if you haven't taken a look yet, but um, yeah.

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>> Not re get it or Everyone got it? Okay, awesome. >> I got it. Yeah. >> Yep. >> Amazing. Um, so Satie on this one, NK, maybe. So, how do we get the letters

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of approval from the town? Like, at what point do we send them the final version with all the comments incorporated to get their letters of approval? Where does that fall into here? >> That's a great question, Satie. Do you want me to field that one?

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Uh, sure. Yeah. >> Okay. So, typically what we've seen as kind of the standard approach from our municipalities is that when you send them to your boards and committees for that that kind of like rough final

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review, um, you can ask for a letter of support at that point so that you have them ready because your final submission to DCS, you'll need to have those letters incorporated. So typically we see folks submit that rough final review or sorry that rough first review to DCS

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simultaneously sending it to their boards and committees asking them to review and provide any comments they might have and then at that point also providing a letter of support which is what we as an RPA do for any um any OSRPs that are coming to us for review

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come in that kind of like first draft first final draft form I should say and we'll provide one document with any comments for consideration and we'll also provide a letter of support so that they are ready to submit their final packet once those comments are incorporated.

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>> Okay. And the town departments are good on giving a letter of support before they see the final version. in general you they don't >> yeah typically >> typically because you know it's at such a final stage at that point the comments

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are incorporated as to the best of the ability of the plan if they are going to like significantly change the plan obviously that creates a larger issue but if that were the case then I feel that any town board or committee would probably bring that up to you directly and then that would be a larger

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discussion Okay, thanks. >> Yeah, well, I think the schedule looks really good to me. Um, I was just looking at the dates and kind of looking at the calendar prior to the meeting. um the

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um the 15th of August, which is Newberry Town Day. Um I've never attended. I went and looked it up and read a little bit more about it. It seems very appropriate. I don't know if there's other committees or clubs or, you know, there as well. I imagine there's maybe a

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couple tables that they'll set up or we set up our own table maybe. I'm guessing. Yeah, it's they um they loop in just lot any you know as many organizations I think as they can get to attend they they have you there.

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They have I think businesses um the organizer has been asking me for land uh contacts for land trusts. I think um Mike is working to get some uh some materials there for them to distribute and then um those organizations that can

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provide like a representative will will be doing so. So, um yeah, I don't know are if we can if since we're talking about it if um are people available to go to Newbury Town Day and speak about

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the plan or um I know I'm I think Mike you said you're away that week or or you have a work commitment. >> Yeah, I'm I'm gone. I'm gone during that time. >> Okay. Um >> I'm gone also. Um, I will quickly add

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that which Kristen wrote in the letter in her email and we I think briefly mentioned last time that the the border to Boston and Coastal Trails are kind of teaming up because they're so tightly linked um with the work happening there.

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So, they're going to set up a table and have a a a graphic, you know, something to show and uh some other miscellaneous materials. So, it might make sense to have our setup. I don't want to say

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necessarily adjacent to them, but they do, you know, it's a natural fit. So, >> yeah, >> I don't know what's I don't know what the recck committee is doing, but that's separate from who's going to show up on August 15th. I am going to be out of out

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of out of the region. So, unfortunately, >> I will also be away unfortunately. I was really hoping I could get there this year, but unfortunately I can't. But, um, yeah, I don't know. Bill and Christine, are you around that weekend or >> I think I am. I don't know.

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>> I actually haven't I don't even have that schedule in front of me right now. So, but I will check once this meeting is over. Um, yeah, we got I know >> that we're not around the weekend before, so >> yeah, but >> yeah, >> it could be team Hoffman. We could might

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be able to pull it off at least for part of it. It's 1 to seven. Maybe not until the bitter end. Um, unless there's really good music or something, I guess. I don't know. >> No, I think I don't know. We'll talk about it. I think but if we were to do that um I don't know if we

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>> maybe we jump in with them and share a table and just have an easel with the poster and some handout stuff or something like that. >> I can definitely Yeah, I can definitely like prepare I still have poster board in my office from like the time like our last public meeting. So, I can

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definitely assemble something and then maybe I can give it to like uh either John or um someone from the rec committee >> and just have them, you know, stand near it and if anyone has a question, they can talk about it. And I'm sure, you know, if we're following this

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uh this schedule, then we'll have the draft on the website by then, so we can kind of direct people to review it if they want to and then come to the public meeting. So, >> yeah, I think if we had something >> Wait, so sorry. No, we won't have it up

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there by then. I just mean like Yeah, we can we can make up some materials to give to people. Yeah, I could see like a board with the map and then maybe either a separate board or some way maybe just we fit it onto one big board, maybe just a couple

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bullets about open space, why it's important to the community to draw people in and be like, you know, we want to hear from you or something something like that just to draw people in and then we can engage them. >> That would be help. Yeah, that's awesome. >> Try to get them to give an email address

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so we can communicate >> more like a signup sheet. Yeah. >> Right. Okay. >> Definitely. I can definitely work on some uh materials. >> Okay. Um

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All right. Does anyone have questions about this schedule or um Kay's uh work coming up or are we feeling I I guess my only question is you know

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how many did I see that it was like the scope of work is it 20 hours of work is that the anticipated time frame or >> yes I believe so >> yeah 20 hours of work is the like

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you know best guess that we have for that. I will say the way that this time works is that if any of that goes unused um it will be returned to the town to use for a future LTA request. But just being cognizant of the fact that um I'll

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be working through the entire narrative and then also formatting both the document and all the relevant appendices. um that's you know the amount of time that we felt was appropriate for all of that and then also to be available to you all following the final draft or

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sorry following your review of the final draft that I create um to incorporate any comments that you all have about that and then to also help incorporate any public comments that come back. >> Yeah. No, that sounds it sounds like it makes sense. Um, I was just trying to

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like reconcile in my head at 6 weeks out and so if it was 20 hours of work, I was like, that's only 3 hours a week. And that's what I was wondering like is there any way that we could accelerate that schedule? >> Oh, yeah. >> Totally understand that question. Uh, Satie and I were actually chatting about this a bit earlier today. Unfortunately,

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I'm pretty committed to wrapping up another municipal planning document for another town this month. So, that's been eating and will continue to eat a lot of my time in July. Um, I will still work on this through here. Satie and I have also talked about some things that I can

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kind of pass over to, you know, have her and Kristen provide some of that local knowledge while I'm wrapping up that other municipal document. And then, candidly, I'm also away the 21st of July through the 29th. So, I'll be gone most of those two weeks. So, that is kind of,

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you know, what's pushing that timeline out a little bit more. But also just recognizing that some of these things I probably will have to kind of wait for answers from Satie Kristen or any of you on um

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just you know aspects of the plan that I don't have great local knowledge around and then also just that there is a little bit of back and forth built into the scope of work where I will give like comments to you all to review and then um you know hoping for quick turnaround

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sounds, but just I'll have to wait to hear back from you all. And I'll say too, you know, this timeline, September 1st is really like the latest I would get this to you, but I understand and can like truly appreciate that everyone is really looking to get this through the finish line sooner rather than

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later. So, I will do my best to get it done as fast as I can, but just recognizing that there's some other work on my plate. >> Yes. >> Yeah, that makes a ton of sense. I think, you know, we're just kind of hoping that we can get this finalized in 2026. There's like a little psychological

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goal there where we want to come back and give us like the stamp of approval so that this thing is dated 2026. So, I get a little nervous when we're submitting it >> like right before. So, let's see. Let's see. But really appreciate your willingness to jump in and I would love to talk at some point as to whether

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there are any like comments right now that we could be working on, you know, so that when you jump in, it's even a little bit further along cuz I saw that there's a June 29th document dated in there and it maybe has some comments from you and I was just looking at them and I like just responded to one of

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them, but I didn't do it in the version on Google because that it it's really hard for me to work on that version. I just need it in Word. So anyway, I just was wondering if there's anything that we could do to help advance the ball um in the meantime. >> Thanks. I appreciate that. Yeah, I know

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Satie, I did kind of like a secondary review of some work that had been done. Um I'm not I'm a little outside the Google Drive system because I cannot get my like work teams oriented, you know, systems to play nice with the Google

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Drive that you all are using. So Satie and I have been doing a little bit of back and forth on um like standalone documents. So I don't know if there are any comments that might have been, you know, still waiting for answers on that second review that I did. Um I think mostly I was just looking to see what

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work had been done and that any comments from before that are likely um from the earlier review that I did. Not entirely sure the date on that one. Um, but I, you know, Satie and I have been chatting a little bit about ways to kind of streamline the process, especially

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knowing that I will be gone for a little bit later this month. And I'm hoping to have any information that I need from you all or any comments that I'd like you to look at regarding the action plan over to you guys um early next week so that you guys can do that while I'm kind

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of out of pocket for a little bit. >> Yeah. And um I know Kristen has said that she is um very willing and eager to you know turn around anything related to you know her her breadth of knowledge about this

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like zoning anything you know anything in that field. She's she's able to turn around information pretty quickly. So that'll definitely help uh on our end. But yeah, I can make sure that we have, you know, the most up-to-date document

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um for K. Um and I'll definitely communicate with you all about any comments that need answers. But I think um Kristen and I can definitely, you know, take a little bit of the weight of that because I know you guys have done,

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you know, like 90% of the work on this so far. So on the writing portion. So um yeah. Um, >> one thing that I need to do, and I was waiting for the municipal calendar to flip, is I need to get an updated

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chapter lands list from the assess from the assessor because I believe that's from 2024 in the current plan at this point. Um, do you want me to fish that into the document or do you want me to just get that from the assessor and and

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and pass it along? Um, I can I can like paste it into a document if that's what you mean. If you want to send it to me, I can I can paste it in if that works for you. >> Every time.

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Uh, >> oh, >> what' you say? Oh. I believe a child has spoken. >> I'll say too, Satie, if you do paste that in, um I can also like look and see if there have been any changes that

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warrant like any changes to the to the narrative of that section. >> Okay. Yeah, that's great. That would be that would be perfect. >> Yeah. I so I do see some comments in that June 29th version from K. And so I

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guess I'm wondering I'm asking Satie, do you want us to go in and address those comments on the Google Drive version? Um there's like under the residential growth section and then like a little residential or little recreational shared resources with other community

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section. Um do you want us to go in? It looks like they've been kind of hanging out there though. Um >> yeah. >> Um yeah, sure. If if you're able to do that this week and then I can send Kay

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the like a document with those comments incorporated by the end of this week, then I can do that. Christina talking about in like the section three the community setting and

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some of the K's comments there. I was going to make a comment about the comments. So, >> okay, good. Yeah. No, go go go ahead and make your um >> I don't I don't know if I thought you based on the things you said it sounded like they were from that section, but maybe I'm mistaken.

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>> Um let's see. Yes. Yep. And so, right, like just before we got on the phone, I like added in one sentence about some shared resources, but that's that's all I did because then I thought I better just check to see if we even should be >> adding responding to these or not because I wasn't sure of the status of >> Totally. Um because Satie, I wanted to

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point out and K, thank you. you know, you had done, but your comments are still there in that section in the 629 draft that I wanted to mention that, you know, Kristen and I sat down and >> in a short period of time went through

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some of those. Syd, you're probably in the loop on that. and K I think like probably the three of you have her there to speak to some of it because um I think the there was more uh you know

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whether you call it the local knowledge or um just some other she had some thoughts about you know some stuff is in our master plan and some other areas so how to what's what's the right balance of what to bring in there

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>> in our section three um you know to what what level of detail do we need to go so I would just you know if you need to come back to me that's fine but I would assume you the three of you are going to meet about those pending those comments that are still sitting there from K

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if >> yeah I appreciate that I know that Christian or sorry I know that Kristen had offered to really jump in with some comments on like how zoning impacts open space in the community so I'll definitely be looking to her for that and you know I'm sure we'll have a

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little bit of back and forth on how we see similar um especially zoning bylaws or overlays impact open space. So I think we should be good there. But I would say if there are any new comments or old comments that haven't had, you

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know, a chance to respond to um and you do have the time to just look those over um on your sections and provide any any additional thoughts. You don't even really need to get into the narrative. feel free to just like leave a thread on that comment. Um I, you know, I'm happy to have more information than less

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information. So, anything you can throw at me is good. Um and in the meantime, I'll you know, like I said, continue to assemble um any questions or areas where I I need a little more additional knowledge. And then once I have that

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ready, even though I won't have probably seen these comments yet, I'll send those over and then Satie and Kristen could just disregard any that have been addressed. So more information is always good in my mind. >> So Satie, you and Kristen would kind of

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work on incorporating those comments that are still pending in that 629 version. >> Um yeah, if there are um I think you guys have gone through

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your sections already pretty like a a good amount of times. Um, I don't know if uh I don't know if these comments are are things that you guys can address, but if it's easier for Kristen and I to just

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sit down and and go through them, um, that works, too. Yeah, I think that I am I mean it might depending on how fast this meeting goes like it I just wonder if it's worth

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just clipping through each one and saying like Christian and Satie will tackle these or whoever the author was of this section will tackle them just so that we really know like who's going to take those on so that we can you know get the narrative in before Kay does her

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review. >> Okay. >> What do you think about that? >> That works. Um, I want to give everyone a chance to ask any questions about the schedule and Kay's

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work so that maybe we can release her. Um, >> yeah. >> If we don't have any more questions. >> Yeah. And I propose to do that at the end of our meeting. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. Um I think yeah, all of our agenda items

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were just, you know, schedule related. So, um if we feel good about that and we feel good about K's role and everything, um then we can start what Christina suggested going through the comments.

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But yeah, any questions for for K? No. No, but >> thanks a lot for >> Yeah. >> helping us out in all aspects. >> Yeah. No, happy to do it. I'm excited, you know, to get this through the finish line with you all. So, just happy to be

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here and really, you know, if you have any questions, I know I've been communicating mostly through kind of Satie and Kristen on the back end, but please do feel free to like email me if you do have questions about anything. Um, I would say too as you go through these comments, um, you know, whoever

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gets tagged on them, really don't feel the need to incorporate it into the narrative. Unless you have like a strong vision for how that looks, I'm happy to do that. That's scoped into my time is to kind of like incorporate any of those updates where things are kind of missing that I still need information on. So

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truly, if you just want to like dump all that information into a response on the comment, I can incorporate that into the narrative. So, just keep that in mind as you go through. But otherwise, you know, super excited to be on this project. I love doing these documents and making sure that folks have some good open

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space resources and recreation in town. And, you know, Newberry has some great ones. So, I'm happy to be here. >> Well, thank you. >> All right. >> Thank you so much, K. >> Meeting. >> Thank you. Bye, everyone. Good night. Bye.

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Awesome. Can I >> ask a quick question? Um is so Kay's reviewing the narrative and the action plan or just >> and tied to that I think when we are

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seeking knowing it's a second public meeting and the committees are seeing this are are we going to really steer them towards the like the action plan more than the narrative leading into it? Yeah. And other towns that I've

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>> Yeah. >> um like reviewing other plans and things like that, it seems like the focus is the action plan in the public meeting. Um and the rest is kind of it's it's, you know, important, but it's um really

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the action items that people are >> Yep. >> um interested in. So, >> great. And I this you may have said it more recently said the same thing in a recent meeting and it either wasn't there or but I yeah that way we're

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keeping the focus on moving forward right and not going back. Yeah. So it's really around priority and setting expectations right that the direction we're headed in. Good. >> Yes.

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>> Awesome. All righty. Well, I can if we want to go through the document, I can share my screen. Does that work for everyone? >> Awesome. All righty. Everyone see that? Okay.

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>> Yes. >> Awesome. All right. So, K is going to be doing all this formatting. Amazing. that's been done. So, I'll check that off.

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>> Ah, okay. So, the ones that I had that that when I read that comment, I wrote a little sentence that said like the Plum Island Beach and the Clipper City Rail Trail are recreational resources that are shared with the city of Newport, I'm sorry, Newberry Port requiring partnership and collaboration to establish, expand, and maintain for

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enjoyment. So, I if you think that we don't need that, that's totally fine. But those were the ones that I could think of that we actually share with other municipalities. >> Okay. Wait, where where is this? Sorry. >> I didn't add it in to this version

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because I can't the Google M bananas. So, I had my own version. So, >> I know. I'm sorry. I wish I I wish there was like a smoother operation. But um yeah, if you So you have a version where

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you have this information added in. >> Yeah. But here, you know what what I'll do is we go through here. I'll make little notes in my version that says like who's going to tackle this and maybe some whatever we say on this call and then I'll send you my like comments

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addressing comments version and you can just look at that. >> Okay, that sounds good. >> Okay. >> Okay. Um once from King uh spot to highlight recreational

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resources that new version Oh, this is what you were just talking about. This >> it is. Yes. So, >> okay. So, >> I think at this point, I mean, I think Kristen, she didn't really feel like we needed to

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expand too much, but I don't want to misstate exactly what her thoughts were on it, but I think it would be better to start with her, >> you know, either um adding her own comment because we just had a

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conversation about it, you know, as opposed Yeah. >> So, >> yeah, if if Christina has if you have things you've written, I I don't see the harm in adding that in. Um because I mean it's

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>> I think K's K's advice is is good. Um >> Okay. I just I just put like how I'm going to reply to these is I'm just going to put a reply comment on it. So then you'll see what we all just talked about here. >> Okay. >> Realize that there and I'll send it

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back. So, you'll put you'll put your your writing like Kay said, you'll just put it like in in here. >> Yeah. You know what? I'll do that. I'm putting it in my version right now and then after this call, I'll put it in there. >> Amazing. That is perfect. Um,

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okay. Um, did Kristen say anything about this comment? I that one I wasn't quite clear on. So, um I can add a comment that I'm just not >> okay. I think Kristen, you know, would know >> exactly

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>> the answer to this. Okay. >> I'll I'll just write Kristen. >> Okay. >> Okay. I think this you've made edits since K made this comment, Jim.

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>> Yeah, I did make some edits, but um I'm just rereading it because I actually haven't looked at it in a while. Um but um you know some like so let me I don't want to obviously dissect this right now too much but we talked about some of the

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zoning and um other bylaws and that they are mentioned they're just not right at the top there so in the section. So that was one thing. In terms of you know in a broader sense um the growth and

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development like I I I I got my my takeaway from talking to Kristen was you know doing a a deeper dive into that wasn't necessary. So, um, >> okay.

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>> I didn't, she wasn't like looking at it saying there are gaps here that we really should be talking about. Um, >> but, um, if it needs to be re, you know, presented in a a different way that,

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you know, has emphasis on zoning and bylaws, it's, you know, obviously it should that should happen. So, >> okay. I'll I think this is something that I can go over with with Kristen just to make sure that we've addressed it. >> Yeah, I think that's, you know, just

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repeating what I said when Kay was still on the line that if it goes from the two of you outward, you know, I'm happy to come back in, but um >> Awesome. >> Good. Yep. >> Okay. Um, yes. Is this has this been

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addressed? >> Uh, sorry. Um, >> I can I can also since I know you and Kristen were working together, if there are comments in this section, I can just make sure >> with her that like Yep. can ask her to to re readress

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anything that needs that is out outstanding. >> Yeah, I don't think I mean I don't think I made a major update to address that, but again I don't think we talked about really needing to do more. >> Awesome.

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Um, same thing here. >> Yeah. Okay. This has been addressed looks like by Bill. >> Uh yeah, that was actually me. Yeah, I don't know. We sometimes so it comes up

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as you know. So, it's one of us. But, um, so yeah, I mean, I kind of felt similar that there was some language about the loss of farmland, but it is lower down in the text. It's like not right here.

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So, it might be that it's already covered. >> Okay. Awesome. Um, what else? Um, I can review this with Kristen also or is this addressed later? How water

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resources are used for wreck transportation? >> I mean, I'll just note like there's a paragraph on that also in the community setting. So, >> okay. you know, it's okay to repeat, but um

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that may get into, you know, deciding if we want to just contain it to one section and not multiple places. >> Okay. >> Yeah. And I'll take a look at this to see if there's anything else. I mean, I can think about at least the habitat

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protection like water resources, the salt marsh being an ACE, but we talk about the salt marsh being an ACC a few different times and a few different ways in the document. So, I kind of feel like it's already covered, but I can at least take a quick look. And and I'll just note like what's addressed in section

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three is really about just like infrastructure as opposed to um you know resiliency and >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So I'll see Christina to confirm if more language

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regarding habitat protection and resil or I don't know. I probably wouldn't do resiliency in this section. Sean has his, right? >> But it's probably in the resiliency section. >> It is exactly. Yeah. Yeah. >> All right. So, I'll just see if more

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language regarding habitat protection is required in this section and confirm that resiliency is addressed below in Sean's section.

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Okay. Oh yeah. I mean the low flow periods they would definitely stress lots of species. So if it would be helpful, you know, I feel like this is

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this is some of the comments that I like because if we want to like focus on something specific and then we have an opportunity to like get funding to focus on focus on that something specific that we talk about, it would be good to kind of lay the groundwork here. >> Um,

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>> so I will look into this one a little bit more with some help from Bill Hoffman. There's um that's kind of redundant too. In the wildlife quarter section, there was um a comment by K. I don't want to jump ahead, but um this isn't section

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four about aquatic connectivity specific to low and no flow season. So, we might be able to cover it in one section or the other depending where it fits best. >> Okay. >> All right. So, we'll confirm if enough language is already in there that we can

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close out that comment. Okay, awesome. Um, >> yeah, I often will just use section XXX until the plan's finalized because I hate to refer to a section and then have it be wrong later. So, I'd rather do But anyway, maybe we're getting so close to the end.

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>> I'll add in section number. I feel like in the formatting too in the end though it's like I think it's good until you do everything's good until and then you go back and that's like one of the last things you do is fill all those XX in. So make sure everything's perfect.

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>> Yeah. >> Okay. Describe how vegetation supports recreation. >> Yep. So actually that text was addressed. I put that in there. >> Okay, >> I think that one was It did that.

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>> Is it in this section? >> I better double check because I remember I added hunting. She mentioned hunting. I was like, "Yeah, that's a good point." And so I added that in. It was in that section. So it might have been in that. I did that a while ago like as soon as

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we got >> I can double check my version because again like Christine I I like to work in Word. I'll double check that. Mhm. >> Okay. >> I'm sure we've mentioned Dune. >> Oh, yeah. In that sentence, I don't know if like we already changed it or not. If

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we did, we should just close out that comment, but the very first bullet that's there >> Yeah. talks about doom being a critical aspect of resiliency. So we could just say resolved. Yes. >> Okay. >> One less. >> Okay.

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>> Okay. Yeah. So we'll have to come up. We'll leave that in your hands. >> If you want any help, by all means. >> Okay. >> Oh, yeah. that one. Um, that's Concom and I meant to reach out to Mary Rammer to make sure that um I don't as far as

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I'm aware not a lot work has been done to manage invasive species. I know um Ottabon and trustees and mass wildlife they're all tackling it head on but um no one within the town there's been no town activity especially on u

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municipally owned lands. So, unless I'm unless somebody else in the committee is aware of it. I was just going to double check with um with the concom to see if they're aware of any other activities. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Do you know? >> Oh, sorry. >> I was say I'm not aware of any town

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entity doing any invasive work. >> Yeah. I mean, do we feel good just putting that in there? I I guess I it's just an email I'll send out to Mary just to put the final mail in it, but I don't think anything's being done.

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>> Oh, sorry. Go ahead, Christina. >> No, I want to hear your thoughts, too. I just had a thought. >> Um I I don't know of any efforts by the town. I think we could uh talk about, you know, like entities in Newbury like

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land trusts. Um I don't know. Um >> I mean >> I don't personally know which what efforts there are being taken by land trust but Mike do you have >> well yeah I was going to say I mean there there's there's plenty of whether it be private organizations or private

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individuals that have you know filed with the concom for various invasive projects or you know outside ofcom jurisdiction but they're they're they're working on stuff. Um, I don't know if there's really

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any single way to like categorize it. Like we're not focused on one specific invasive in any municipality. It just happens to be more on a property bypropy basis and what species might exist. and if we can tackle it at that moment. Um,

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you know, I I can't speak for Ottabon or the trustees, but I know that there's a group of residents that are trying to do frag removal work, you know, that's private, but stuff like that's happening. >> Okay. >> But but nobody's treating the mass

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influx of notweed that keeps popping up on every street in town, you know. >> Yeah. I think that she's really just asking about whether the town departments have so I feel like this is a DPW question like who at the town Satie would actually be implementing a

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program like this in my mind it would either be the conservation commission or the DPW. >> Okay. >> And if we're not doing it then I actually like this comment. I think we should just state like the, you know, the town of Newberry has not yet implemented a comprehensive program, but

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it is like a really driving need to kind of lay the foundation in case we find an opportunity to work on that and we can get funding to do it. Like, let's say it here. So, I I like this prompt here. >> Yeah. Okay.

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>> All right. So, we'll say Christina and Bale will work on this one. Do you have anybody that you would recommend at DPW, Satie, that we should add? >> Um, I can ask tomorrow. Um, uh, Annette is one office over from me,

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so I can ask her um if there are any town departments that would be addressing this. Um, and if not, then who would if there was an effort to um, combat invasives? >> Okay, good.

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>> Um, and I can let you know what I find. I have a feeling it will be not much, but I'll let you know anyway. Um, okay. Awesome. Social fish that

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um looks like this has been addressed. >> Yeah, but let me double check that because I remember I was using that map and it's really not great for for Newberry um the mapper. But yeah, I'll make sure it's good by the end of the week for sure. Okay, awesome.

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>> Yeah, I think I started. It should be noted that. Yeah, so I was I had a thought there. I got to go back and finish it. >> Okay. Um connectivity >> and that's the redundancy to the section

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before um with a low low and no flow seasons. >> Okay. >> So we'll either we address it here or before. >> Okay. I think this will be that something that she can address in the formatting

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stage. >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. This should be the outline for the radicals. Is this section six? Okay, this is definitely something that myself

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or Kristen can work on since this is the section we were working on together. Same for this Okay. Yeah. Um I think that's everything. And then this is all just

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indices. Yeah. Okay. That's everything. Um, anything in the document that people want to discuss or everyone knows what they're doing, Anna? >> Yep. And any final touch-ups on our

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sections done by the end of the week? >> Yes, that would be awesome. Yeah, the only thing is that boy and I had it open before we got on the call, but for some reason I don't see it now. Um,

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I had just noticed some things that were in the scorp that I thought would be helpful to add in. And so I like went section by section like section two we could add these words. Section four we could add these words somewhere just to

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show them that we read the scorp and we appreciate it and we know that that's the focus of where they're going to be giving money is the price in the scorp. And so I literally don't know where that document went because I just had it open. So, I will look that up and if I

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feel like, you know, I can just quickly add those words into the section like find a place, I will do it before. >> Okay. Yeah, that would be great. I know that's something Kristen's mentioned to me in the past that we should definitely talk about the scorp somewhere in there. So,

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>> if you want >> if there's an area where the scorp applies, Christine, you could put in a comment, too. She said comment. >> Yeah, exactly. to write a paragraph, send it, whatever. Put it and let her incorporate into the text. >> Oh, yeah. >> For you.

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>> Yeah. Okay. I just found the document. >> Oh, okay. >> That I drafted it. I was like, add this to section four, add this to section five, whatever. So, okay,

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>> perfect. That's awesome. Thank you. Um, okay. So, I think the only thing that the only things that we'll be doing for this

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period of time are um thinking about getting the comments, you know, commented. doesn't don't doesn't have to be incorporated necessarily, but um just anything left on your sections

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done by the end of this week if possible. And then um um I don't I think other than that, Kay will just be working on the narrative and working

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with me and Kristen um to fill in any gaps. So, um I think the only other thing we have to worry about is um Newbury Town Day and figuring out when we're meeting next. Um

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so, >> yeah, I mean on our calendar, next meeting is 8th of September, so we probably want to meet once in between anyways. Um, >> yeah. And then so as Marramac Valley as

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K has questions and stuff while she's working on it, if we haven't met yet or whatever, so you're just going to funnel those either as a group email to the committee or to the individual who wrote the section. Either way is fine. >> Okay. Yeah.

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>> Yeah. Just questions. Yeah. So cuz she I guess during this process if she has questions and it seems like the end of this month she's not around anyway. So there won't be too many right away. But um we should just be alert like we'll just keep an eye on our email so if

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something comes up or you can you have our numbers you can call me and whoever. Um >> so we'll just be ready at because we don't want to slow her down. So if she needs something we want to be right at it on top of it as quick as quick as possible.

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Yeah. >> Yes. Awesome. >> Yeah. Yeah. And if she needs something from like our sections, feel free to if you if you if you send us an email, I don't know. You could also send a text which will get our attention after. >> Sounds good.

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>> Um yeah. Do we want to meet maybe before Newbury Town Day so that we can >> we have to >> get that figured out? And that's pretty far away. So yeah, we can meet um early August. Um I don't know what

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people's vacation schedules are like coming up, but um >> how about >> the 4th of August on a Tuesday? Would that work for anybody? >> Um >> give us like a week to get ready for Newberry Town Day. Anything?

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>> Yeah, >> actually my calendar to be honest. Well, I I mean I think New Ray Town Day is more just talking and just having a couple posters unless and a clipboard for email. >> Yeah, but if we haven't made the posters

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yet, we all need to on what we need to do. So, we need to like map it out. Yeah, I can I can work on that like you know before our next meeting and then I can send them to you before the meeting and you guys can like you know

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see what you think and then we can talk about them at the meeting like our our our committee meeting before Newbury Town. Um so that's that >> you guys can um you guys can like print them like on a

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big platter so we have color like a foam board or something to hold it up. >> Yes. Yeah, I have I have tons of I have easels. I have um poster board. I have the giant printer. So, it can provide anything that's needed.

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>> It's You probably don't know this. I'm wondering if there's like a tent or something cuz if it's raining that day. >> Um I can ask. >> Yeah. >> Um I'll ask Robin. I >> mean, yeah.

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And if there's anything that we can reuse from the original public meeting or you know what you had put together for the town meeting where we were handing out like take our survey. >> Don't have to start from scratch. Hopefully maybe they'll be fine.

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>> I can I can honestly just take the poster that we had before and just like make new text. >> Yeah. >> Um so I don't have to like design the whole thing again. But yeah, I'll definitely do that. I like the open space updated map that MVPC made for the

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plan. It's a good one. >> Yeah, definitely. >> Gives people a sense of scale. Doesn't get into the detail of what's necessarily what, but gives them this gives them an idea of privately protected, federally protected, state protected, all that.

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>> Exactly. Yeah. And maybe, you know, if there are so many bullets that one of them is just what I said before about um, you know, that this fall the action plan or at the

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the September 15th meeting, you know, the action plan where you're will be uh, you know, presented or summarized and >> just so they have a a date in mind, you

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know, upcoming milestones or dates. >> Definitely. >> And then we want to get it in by the end of the year. >> Yes. Awesome. Yeah, we'll definitely talk about the the public meeting. Um, >> right.

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>> Uh, I did want to just get PE a sense of how people are feeling. because um I have the public meeting as being uh September 15th um after we you know this

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within a month, um then we can have our public meeting on September 15th or that will be a pretty quick turnaround. Um so, do we want to maybe think about it and talk about it at our

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next meeting when exactly we want to set the public meeting? so that we can start like, you know, planning for it and, you know, sending out public notices and things like that. >> Yeah. I guess um I haven't really put any thought into it yet, but that public

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meeting, that last one, >> how is it going to be different than what we did? I mean, we're gonna Well, I guess there's going to be a presentation of the plan and then >> Yeah. Yeah. I figure yeah I figure the I

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figure what will happen is we'll we'll have a we'll start with a presentation and um I figure you know each of you can talk about your section to give you know more of a background

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and then um I can explain the action plan and then um and then I can also look into what other towns have done like the nitty-gritty details of like how the room is set up

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and like what activities there are, but I think like they have like big posters with the action plan like sections printed out and then they did a sort of sticker uh activity like we did with the map at our first meeting with like color

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coding like this, you know, objective needs work or this objective looks good. the subjective could be rewarded like um something to that effect. But I can definitely you know iron out the kinks there and and see what would work best

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for us. Um but honestly I think it'll be pretty similar to our last one. Lots of you know discussion with like little discussion groups how we had it set up last time. Um >> how much lead time do you need to on the public notice side of that before like

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is it like a two week before the meeting or is it longer? Uh, I mean, I don't remember how long we had before or the first time. I think it was like a month or something I think we spent like getting the word out. I feel like I was,

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you know, postering for so long. Um, but I feel like I feel like at least two or 3 weeks is probably the minimum I would say if we want, you know, a lot of people to show.

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Um, >> yeah. The only problem we're going to have is so we're going to go to Newberry Town Day on the 15th and then we're going to want to advertise come to the public hearing on >> and we're not sure if it's maybe and

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then we'll know. >> I think we can say like we're planning a public meeting. um you know check here for like we'll we'll plan to post it on on like the open space page of the town website. So we can say like you know

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check check here um give us your email we'll send you information directly once we have it you know finalized the date finalized um >> you can just >> mid to late September or >> Yeah. Yeah. You know

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>> this coming month like it'll be happening and then we'll let you know the exact date. I think it's good to just set it and then we just then we all things we just have to make it happen so that >> so if we just say it's going to be the

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15th I don't know I mean we can talk about the dates and that works for different people but I'm good with just like setting it here in the next few weeks confirming it so then we know we have our our marching orders and we just we got to make it happen. >> Yeah. Yeah. And we can like I think what

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other towns have done is they've been like kind of where we are right now with like a draft action plan and shown it to the public. And I know like it's you know our draft is pretty rough draft still like we're we're getting there but

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we I I definitely would like to have K's eyes on it first before giving it to the public and by by the 15th we she will have reviewed it. So, I think, you know, we'll be in a good position even if it hasn't been fully reviewed by towns and

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by um DCS yet. So, um yeah. So, do we want to like decide on it on the date next at our next meeting so that when we go to Newbury Town Day, we will have a date?

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>> Yeah, I think so. Let's put that on the agenda for the next meeting. Awesome. And I know that like if we don't do it on the 15th, the following week I'm away for work. And not that I have to be there, but I just know that the next week doesn't work for me because I'm on

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the road unless it was Monday night. I guess I could do it the following Monday night, but I couldn't do it Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, or Friday. >> Okay. >> Yeah, >> good to know. I do want you there. >> Similar for me. I think the week of the 21st of September is not the best.

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>> Okay. Why don't we say like tentative tentatively uh 9:15 and then we can start developing I'll start

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developing some materials before our next meeting and then we can you know finalize it. Does that work? Okay. >> Yeah, that sounds good. >> Awesome. >> So our next meeting is August 4th.

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I won't be able to make that, but you should go ahead and if you send out a draft of like the poster or the town day, um >> I can give you feedback ahead of time by email. >> Okay.

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>> Do we know if the fourth does the fourth work for you, Bill or Mike? >> Fourth works for me. Yeah, I can make it work, I guess. Yeah. >> Okay. Does is Zoom easier for people?

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>> It is for me. >> Okay. Awesome. Uh, anything else that we need to discuss? >> Any agenda items? What are the other agenda items? We we touched them all. Um

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it would be member committee member updates if anybody has anything outside of the plan they would like to bring up. >> I have two. One is um I went to the Plum Island Beach management meeting. Actually saw K

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there. Um I was going to report this out on our last meeting but I think we ran out of time so I figured I'd do it this time. So, I guess it was a while ago now if I didn't report it on the 17th. Um, cuz I was curious because Plum Island and Plum or I guess Plum Island Beach is

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one of the resource areas that kind of comes up in the open space recreation plan. And the people who responded to the survey, it was one of the top votes that people said that this is where I go. Like that's how I, you know, recreate in Newberry. And so I wanted to know kind of what the plan was. And so

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somehow I managed to sneak over there during the workday for the meeting for I didn't say for the whole thing but you know and it was a whole study that was done about it was mostly focused on erosion and you know the plan to do it

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to fix it and what it looks like in terms of hard engineering or bringing sand in and like that was really like the main focus of it was to try to prevent erosion and maybe even take out some hard structures that have been installed to like stop what had

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been accumulating, but then also to bring in sand. I've like I really only wanted to ask them about what the ecological impacts are of wherever you're taking the sand from, but I didn't get a chance to ask that question. So it wasn't too much that was

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related to us, you know, other than they're trying to preserve the beach and there is like a big effort going on, you know, kind of statewide CCM being a big funer of it and it's in combination with Salisbury as well. So it's a Salsbury

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Newberry thing. Salisbury Newbury report Newberry thing. So, um, and I don't think we really touched on that. I can't remember in the resiliency section. Maybe there is something about it, but that was the only place where I thought if we needed to mention it, we could mention it in

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the resiliency section since that was the main focus. Um, and it might be that it's not even necessary to go into into that section, but that was when I was trying to link it to what we do. The second thing is that there is a group out of Bill is it

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Northeastern University? There's a group that's doing a water quality in the Parker River watershed study. And so I don't know if anybody is out in I can't remember if the whole town is in the Parker River wershed,

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but if you're out and about, they are actually looking for people to pick up wildlife scat or farm animal scat, like poop, and give it to them. You like freeze it, and then you give it to them. There's a drop

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off spot right on Route 1 on Mondays from 3 to 6 or something because they are trying to really figure out if the bacteria levels are like where they're coming from. And I think that using genetics now, you know, you can pull water quality samples, you can do sort of like the Edna to figure out what the

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genetics are and figure out if the pollution coming into our waterways that we kayak and swim in are from like livestock, wildlife, pets even. >> So anybody, if anybody wanted was interested in participating in the

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study, please let us know. Bill has like easy access to getting the materials that we could drop off for you. >> The next door You can actually drop your scat samples with me and I can bring your poop in to work and drop it off for him. >> That's not through Marine Biological

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Labs or is that through them as well, too? >> Um, it's out on No, I'll pull it. I thought it was Northeastern. >> Well, well, yeah, I know that they've had a lot of Northeastern folks as well doing stuff in the marsh. Um, kind of on

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the New Rally line because they they've been collecting samples on marsh land that that we own as well. And you know, I just didn't know if that was in conjunction with MBL or if it was separate. >> Yeah, I think it Well, I actually I

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don't know. I can We have the sheet right there, Christine, if you want to look it up. >> I was just curious. >> Yeah, >> that's super interesting. >> Yeah, I'd be I would definitely love to. So, if I want want to participate, >> we will drive the bags over to you. like

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just let us know and we'll bring a little package that you just drop off and it has the instructions and what you do with it and um like if you're out walking or kayaking or whatever or you're walking by farms. Be so curious if anyone can get farm livestock samples

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um you just take it home and you freeze it until you're ready to drop it off and we would actually come and pick it up too. Like we could at some point when we have a meeting or something you could bring them and then we could drop them off. So >> that's great. Or you can do it drop it off yourself on Mondays I think from 3 to 6 on route one in Newberry.

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>> Okay. Is it best like to go to a certain website or just wait? Do you have >> Hold on. Let me go run downstairs and go. >> I got it. It's Northeastern uh Crant Palm Island Ecosystems Long-Term Ecological Research in Bowen

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Lab. And they're collecting fecal source uh sources from Plum Island Watershed and sample exchange is uh 297 New Turnpike or Route One

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and then but you can drop them off with me too because we were doing it here. So it's it's it doesn't say anything about MBL specifically, Mike. But >> that that 297 is that that's the old Marsh View farm that they own. I can look it up. >> I'm just thinking I'm just thinking that

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that's maybe the drop off site. >> Not a lot of fun options. You know what I mean? >> I'm seeing something online for Ipsswitch uh River Watershed Association doing the same thing. >> So cool. >> I think they're they're working together. >> Yes,

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>> that's a collaboration. Yeah, they're just so it's Maya Darson is this probably a PA student, but the student that's doing the study and so they're trying to get out there and get as many people collecting as possible. >> Nice.

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>> That's pretty cool. >> Yeah, it's very cool. >> I have I can I'll just I'll just send the link to everybody right now. >> All right. >> Oh, good. Yeah. And I guess I don't know how they get the um the collection packages to

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anybody else, like if they'll mail it to you. But again, if you want Bill to just grab one and bring it to you, we'd be happy to do that in the next few days. >> Yeah, I think the the big the main question is to help identify sources of

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micro um microbial contamination in on the clam plats. So, it's it is fisheries related. Cool. All right. I'll send that out in a second. >> Right. >> Awesome. Thank you. >> All right. Any other updates?

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All right. We got our next meeting date determined. So, uh if anybody else doesn't have anything else to add, then um I'd like to move to adjourn. >> I'll second it. >> Excellent. Hi. >> Cool. All right. Thanks everybody.

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>> We all voted unanimously. I >> I >> Oh, yeah. I >> I haven't had dinner. I'm still I'm ready to go. >> Yeah. >> Thank you everyone. I appreciate you all taking the time as always. >> Good night everyone. Thank you for all

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