All right. Well, thank you everyone. Um, today is the 24th of March and I'm calling to order the Open Space Committee. Um, so tonight, um, we have some guests, um, from Marramac Valley
Planning Commission. um and we're going to go over um their our plan and look at their feedback they have for us and then we're going to cover a bunch of other things specifically maybe the action plan and um we have some other items on
the agenda that'll help inform us write the plan. Um but before we begin um we have to call um we have to look ask for any assisted queries. See how there's none here. Um we'll move on to the uh open space
committee uh meeting minutes. Um has everybody had an opportunity to skim those meeting minutes and do they have any comments or improvements or changes? >> Okay. Hearing. >> No, I would move to um approve the
minutes as written. >> Second. Okay. >> All in favor? >> I >> I >> unanimous. Excellent. All right. So, um
so tonight, um Sophie, um thank you for joining us. Um maybe just quick go around the screen so you kind of know who we all are, um as members on the committee. Um, but I would definitely say thank you for um providing input and
the work that you've done already on our plan and agreeing to come and speak with us tonight. So, I'll start. Um, again, my name is Bill Hoffman, even though it says Christina on my screen. Um, and I live down near Oldtown, um, down
on the Parker River, and I'm the chair of the committee. We've been here about for 10 years and uh we've been on the committee now I think since it started. So so been almost two years now. So on
my screen next I see Sean. >> Oh hi uh Sean Mroy. Uh I'm a member of this committee and the borders to Boston Trail Committee as well. >> All right Christina.
>> Sure. Hi K. Hi Satie. I mean um Sophie, nice to see you all. Um yeah, I Bill and I are related. And so we've been on this committee for a couple of years. I think that the committee's been around for a really long time, but it got refreshed in the last couple of
years in order to um put this plan together. So uh yeah, happy to contribute as much as we can and um maybe I'll hand it over to Jim. >> Hello, Jim Dueling. I've been in town
for um over 25 years and like Sean, I am also on the border to Boston committee. >> Mike >> Mike Carboni. Uh I live over on Scotland Road. Uh I've been a part of the open space committee for a long time. I was
part of it when we did the last plan update in 2008 910. Excellent. And uh Kay, I just saw you on my screen, so I didn't mean to leave you out, but you are certainly a part of this. And again, thank you for for all your support and the comments you made
on the plan. Um I'm assuming you we don't need to introduce Satie because everybody knows me, >> right? >> Already. >> Yep. So I think um Satie, what do you think? How do you how do you want to jump in on this? Do you want to put up
the plan and just start going from the top down through these comments? Um we all can we get an introduction from Kay and Sophie just so that I don't think that I've had the chance to meet them. >> Yeah, absolutely. Um my name is K Ery
environmental planner at the Marramac Valley Planning Commission. I typically handle OSRP um reviews and planning for the environmental team. So been involved in a handful of these plan updates especially recently it feels like. Um,
so I, you know, I provide kind of like, um, overviews on the narrative and help guide the process based on feedback that we've received and reviews of OSRPs with communities in the past. Um, so I tend to lead a little more like narrative action plan side and then Sophie tends
to handle a lot of our data and maps. Sophie, do you want to introduce yourself? >> Yeah. Hi. Uh, I'm the GIS or one of the GIS analysts at MBPC and I've done the mapping for open a few open space plans now. So, it's it's nice to actually meet
with you guys because I've never met with the open space committee before. Um, and yeah, I work on a variety of different things like parcel updates and stuff like that. So, yeah. and Sophie created our um maps a while ago now, but
um the majority of the maps that we have already for the plan were were from Sophie. So >> yeah, >> thank you Sophie. >> Yeah, thank you. >> Yeah, thank you. >> Kind of to the note about maps, we in the draft that I sent back with
comments, we did make a couple updates to the map. We have those in kind of like presentation format if you guys would like to review those changes together. Some of them we made based on feedback we've received on maps in the past. And I know Sophie I think has a
couple questions for the group. So if that feels like a good place to start, maybe we can review the maps first and then go any go over the comments. Does that sound like a good plan? >> Sounds good to me. Thank you. >> Yeah, absolutely. All right, I'm going
to go ahead and share my screen then. All right, can everyone see that? >> Yes, I can. >> Awesome. All right. Technology is not really my forte, which is why we lean on Sophie here for maps and updates. Um, so I already kind of mentioned this, but I
just want to again reiterate I do kind of more of the narrative comment um, action plan development side of things. Sophie and our GIS time team really handle a lot of like data requests for us and mapping requests. Um, in your
kind of comments to us when you knew that we were going to review the plan, there were a couple direct asks. One of them was to make kind of a soil table breakdown of the different types of soil in Newberry. So Sophie did a really great job of kind of looking at that,
seeing where there were just like very minuscule amounts that could be kind of combined into a broader kind of um category. So this is the table that she created. Um this is in all these map updates and this table are all formatted
into the draft that we sent back to you all. But just wanted to let you guys know that that's in there. Put it up here for you to review quickly. Um, but this isn't really one that we have questions on, I believe, Sophie, unless you know anyone has any questions about
the table for us. >> Yeah, I asked for this table. So, um, yeah, it looks, you know, it looks good to me. Drainage type, soil classification, percent, soil description. I figured these aren't going to really change over time. So, I thought if we just memorialize it here
and kind of keep it at a higher level. The drainage type of mix was, I guess, kind of interesting to me. So, give me a little bit of description there, Sophie. Yeah. So, I was hoping that wouldn't happen, but when I um when I sorted out
the data, there were certain um certain areas that were poorly drained that were lomy sand, and then there were also certain ones that were lomy sand that were well drained, if that makes sense.
Sorry. Um, but so it's just that in you would think that all the different soil types would be one or the other, but there were certain parts that were both. So that's why I did the mixed category. So interesting. Okay. Okay. So, you're
saying that there's some lomy sand areas that if you go to like the soil survey, it says that the drainage type is poorly drained even though it's a lomy sand or something.
Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Um, I could, um, try to break down like I could add more column or more rows and then have it
like the percent that's poorly drained of lomi sand and then the percent that's well drained of lomi sand. Yeah, let me um I will soil table. Yeah, it's boy, we have a
complex mix, you know. I looked at some of the other I didn't just come up with this. I sort of looked at some of the other um OSRP uh documents that were available and they have obviously a less complicated geographically complicate less um or
less complicated geography going on here in soils I would say uh because it was relatively simple. So maybe we could refine it even more. Or you know what? Maybe this is completely fine because
I don't know that this is really driving a lot of our action items. Like it's not necessarily driving the open space conversation. It's more of existing conditions and so maybe we just leave it and if the state doesn't like it then
they'll ask us to do something. >> That would be my recommendation there. I think, you know, this is just kind of a general view of like what does the geography look like in Newberry and the reality is that some of your lomy sand drains well and some of it doesn't. And
like you said, I don't think it really informs much of the action plan, but it does just help capture like a broad image of the soils that provide in so much as they kind of can attribute themselves to being agricultural land.
The only piece that I would maybe be a little bit interested in, and Sophie, maybe you have the data to do this, is that the poorly drained soils do impact where residential can happen in some places in Newberry because of the need
to have septic systems because we don't necessarily have town um sewer. And so as long as we have or maybe we could just don't even put the percent in that sentence, the previous sentence that's above this
table, which you can't see, but I have the document opened. Maybe I'll just pre-word that and I'll just say like there's quite a bit of poorly drained soils because I thought we could actually get a fine point on that and say there are this percent of the town by poorly drained soils. But I think
that if we put that number in, it will confuse the soil table because you won't be able to add that number up by the rows of the soil table because there'll be some poorly drained that are in the mixed and that's a pretty big some pretty big percentages in there. So maybe I'll just
rewrite that sentence. >> Yeah, and I will say too that you know this is reflected, correct me if I'm wrong Sophie, but this is also reflected in the soils map. So you can also kind of look to see where those types of
soils are on that map as well. Yeah, it has the poorly drained versus well drained, but it doesn't have the classification just because there's so much else um going on in the map. >> Okay. >> Yeah. So, let's just leave that for now.
I'll I'll kind of mul it over if I have any questions or thoughts. Great idea. Bright ideas. I'll let you know. >> Sounds great. All right, we're going to move then into a couple of the map updates or Oh, nope. I'm wrong. Sophie, this is all you too. Um, one of the
direct asks in the draft was also to kind of like look at land use change. Um, so Sophie kind of went through the data and found a couple options. Sophie, do you want to speak to that? >> Yeah, thank you. Um, this is probably my
biggest question for you all. just um looking at what kind of data we have to do a calculation of the land change over time. So the furthest back of of parcel data that we have that's like our local
parcel data that I could use was 2013. So we could do when that's like based off of the assessed val or not the assessed value the um assessed use codes. So, I just pulled all the codes starting with a seven and calculated it
that way between 2013 and 2026. And that's what you see in the upper right. And that was like about 105 acres difference. Um, but then the bottom one that is from the
state and I know a different community used this data set for their open space plan. Um, but unfortunately it only is from 1971 to 1999, but it does show like a a larger difference. So, I was just hoping to
kind of get your opinion on what you'd like to see or use for that. >> I think Oh, go ahead. >> I was going to say I think you know the past 10ish years is probably the most relevant. I think, you know,
most of the eastern side of Massachusetts underwent, you know, extreme rapid growth and development from the 70s to to 2000, you know, so I think that's probably known and expected and, you know, maybe this 10-year snapshot might be the most relevant.
Just my initial thought there. Yeah, I agree. I I kind of was leaning towards that as well, but I started to question like when I zoomed in, if you see like that large orange parcel that shows like a large area that was lost.
When I zoomed into it, it in our imagery, it kind of just looks like forest almost. And so I was like questioning, well, I don't know if the assessed >> codes are like very accurate compared to the other data set, but >> yeah. Yeah, that that to me I s I caught
that right away too because I >> I feel like that's part of Martin Burns, >> but it's hard to tell without you know like an aerial behind it or something. >> Um there is some a land over there. Um
I don't know if maybe it got calculated in the flip from well it would have been stateowned in 2013. you know, part of it was privately owned before the state bought or a lot of it was privately owned before the state bought it up. So, I don't know if that might have changed
>> co, you know, education codes or something like that for that that piece, but I without like IDing the parcel, I could I couldn't say. >> Okay, I could take a look at that. You know, I think the point of that
sentence in the narrative is to talk about how important the agricultural landscape in Newberry is to the community. And the note there was that development has displaced active farmland rapidly in the town. And so,
you know, that could be over the last 50 years, 20 years. And so if we have 20 if we have a 13-year period that we can capture that and it showed that we lost 105 acres that actually doesn't seem that bad to me in
my mind but um I can't remember how many acres we are total in the town but maybe we could it is interesting to show 1971 like if you were to combine the two data sources in 1971 we had 1,800 acres and in 2026
you know we we have 726, you know, we've lost over 1,000 acres, which feels much more impactful. Do you feel like it is um like scientifically okay to merge those two data sets and grab the 71 number and the tooth 2026
number or are you feeling like we need to keep them? We can't match mix and match. I was thinking something similar earlier and I mean I I think it would be all right
to combine it if for the purpose of this project like I know there's a lot of um talk about the land use change data sets in general because like you generally it's like very hard to compare
them over time because every time they're like the state or something comes out of a like a data set like the last one was in 2016. You can't compare it to any other one because of the way they do it and like the imagery available and everything. It's like a
different protocol. And so like if it were like an like a land use change analysis, I would say probably not. But I think for this it would be sufficient. >> Yeah, I like that idea. I um I I think as long as we site the sources where
that information came from, then I think that would cover it. And I do feel like it's more descriptive combining the two rather than separating them. Yeah, I would say I feel like in in the pursuit of kind of giving a a view of
how Newberry has changed over the years, I think it's appropriate to kind of reference both and come out with, you know, a better a better picture of what the community's experienced over a long period of time as well as a short period of time.
So if I phrased this sentence in the narrative and I um could you or maybe you could just like send us what is give us the source how we actually source the data from these two different data sets and then >> we'll just source it.
>> Yeah, I can do that. >> That would be helpful. Thanks. >> Okay, great. >> So uh question here Sean, it's Sean speaking. Um, so we're thinking about combining these two maps.
>> Um, we don't have a map in there. I was just showing the data. Um, so it would just be the >> Yeah. >> Oh, okay. Okay. Uh, and the only other thing I would uh just to point out is there is a 14-year gap between the two.
So, that's a pretty big gap for there to be missing data, but there's probably no way to uh fill it in. But just pointing it out. >> Yeah, I do think if we just use like
1971 and then 2026 that that's kind of a good a good way to capture it. >> Oh, I see. Uh >> yeah, because it's a cumulative loss. So even though we don't have that data point, you can see the end result.
>> Okay. Okay. >> Yeah. >> All right. Yeah, it actually makes more sense that way than if you than if you're trying to combine the maps. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Great. >> All right. Any other thoughts on this one? Should we move on to the next up
map update? >> That big parcel might be a conservation restriction. on the edge of Martin Burns if I I'm like trying I got like mass mapper open and I'm trying to line them up. >> So >> Oh yeah. >> So it might have just been a change of use that that took it out of an A
designation, you know, and flipped it into either just CR or, you know, a different classification. Yeah, we could probably look at the parcel data for that one, Sophie, and just note if it swapped to
a conservation status rather than a land. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And we could put that qualifier in there because it is such a big partial, it is such a big change. I feel like the sentence could read something like back in 1971 the state blah blah blah
whatever the source is had classified the town as having approximately 879 acres of agricultural land and then the most recent 2026 data using the parcel data from XYZ shows there are 832 reflecting a loss of approximately this
many acres whatever that math is I haven't done it um you know it should be noted that one large parcel XYZ actually hasn't been developed but just changed classifications. Um, and that's related to the Martin Burns. So, anyway, we could at least put a qualified in to
cover that one data point that I think is worth >> definitely. Yeah, that's a good idea. I'll um I'll send along the acreage of that parcel with the other data sources. >> Thank you.
>> Yeah. >> All right. I'm going to move us along to a couple map updates, which Sophie, you're also going to walk us through these, I think. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Um, these I didn't really have any questions, but I just wanted to show you
that I I added the farmlands of local importance because that was a separate data set um that you have to request. And I I added the farmlands to the soils map because I believe that's the requirement. Um, it's kind of hard to
tell from from the screenshot, but when you zoom in, I have them all like in different patterns overlaid on the soil so that you can still see the soil type underneath. And Kay and I thought that it would be good to still keep a farmlands map
separately even though it's not required just because you can break it down more and it's like a big part of the community. I think >> also just to have for your reference as you're kind of like thinking through aspects of the plan that might kind of
refer to like maintaining the kind of like cultural feel of the town as well. You can refer back to kind of like that farmland soils map if you need to. >> I like the addition of it in section five in your up in your comments and
updates to our draft. >> Nice. So, I had noticed and thank you for doing that. I know that that was one of my requests also to add in the farmland of local importance. Um, but it's interesting. It just says likely
farmland of local importance and possible. So, anyway, I got to get my head around who is making that designation and like what the qualifiers are around that because we might need to add a sentence or two about that. So, where did it come from? >> Um, okay. Yeah. So, I can send that along too with the other data sources.
Maybe K, she might be um better at pointing this out, but it's like it's a data set from the what is it? The Department of Agriculture. >> Yeah, this is like a USDA kind of um
it's a national data set that's typically used and like verified at the state level. So, I think we did actually grab it from a mass GIS layer for just Massachusetts. Basically, it looks at kind of the makeup of the soils and whether or not
they're conducive to like productive farming. And then it uses that soil breakdown to say like this is likely farmland of local importance based on the composition of the soil um like water availability and whether or not it
could produce like crop. Um, and then using that kind of soil breakdown, you get like likely soils that they're pretty certain would be of local importance and you get possible soils which may or may not be poss but are included so that you can verify
at a local level. So it's really just kind of like how productive is the soil to agriculture and above a c certain threshold it's likely and below a certain threshold it's possible and then below that next threshold down it's just
not included in the data set at all. >> All right. >> Yeah. I found that wording to be interesting as well, but that's just how they had it. And so I didn't include the um the possible farmlands on the other map just
since it's it's more like um it's less confident. So I just put that on the farmlands only map. Yeah. So maybe the legend item on the lefth hand map, it says farmland of local importance. And I think I think we
should be more specific because if it's likely, it doesn't mean that it is. And that legend item title just kind of makes it seems like it is. But it's really just likely. So maybe we could just call it the likely >> farmland of local importance. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, I can do that.
>> And then on the right hand side, the farmland soils, that legend, it says all areas are prime farmland. Um, is that wording very specific or um could we say that >> that is the wording that that it the
data came in but I can't change that is kind of funny. Yeah. >> Yeah. Okay. Just >> I'll take I'll do some little research on that. So, thanks for that. Interesting interesting words. >> Yeah, I will I'll um I'll send the link
over with the other the other data. >> Thanks. >> Yeah. And thank you. These look great. >> I'm glad. >> This is also just an >> Oh, sorry. Go ahead, Toby. No, I was just just queuing you up.
>> Oh, thanks. Um, yeah, this is also just an update. um we we broke down the municipal data into these four categories because that is what is um required now in the open space plans. So
um and then all the chapter lands are updated to this year because we just did the parcel updates. So we have all the new use codes and everything. And for any of those chapter lands that weren't included in the state's open
space layer, I added them in as privately owned cuz there's no there's no other way really to know unless we go through every single one. Um I just put them all in as privately owned with limited protection since chapter lands are considered
limited generally. But I did notice there are like a few parcels that were in the data set already that were protected in perpetuity. Um, but I just think it's like um it's kind of specific to each property. So if you if you
notice anything when you're looking at the map, please just reach out um if you see any errors with that sort of classification. And that's pretty much all I had on there. Any
questions, thoughts on this one? Does that all sound good to you all? And you, again, these maps are in the draft, so definitely feel free to take a closer look and reach out if you have more questions. All righty. Okay. Yeah. And this is the last uh map
update that we had and it's just because I noticed there was a comment in there about adding boat like I think it was about adding some dialogue about the boat ramps but um we thought that it would be good to actually add that to one of the maps as well. And our data
for the boat access points in Newbury is pretty old. And so I wanted to just see if you guys could help verify the locations or if we're like missing any of them. And so that's what these stars are. So I just have three of them right
now. >> So the one to the north on Pine Pine Island or Plum Island River rather just before it goes up on Java Flats. I'm not I have not personally seen or used that one. Although I do drive over that bridge all the time. I don't know if anybody else on the committee is
familiar with that. Must be a canoe or kayak launch site. >> Is it that spot under the bridge kind of? Is that what that data is referring to? Do people launch boats there? I don't I've never launched. >> I I mean, Mike, I I have used that for
kayaking a long time ago. It's spar I would say it's sparsely used uh and it's a you know it's a tricky put in. So you know I I don't I don't know if people would for the most part know that that is a
place you could do it if you wanted to and didn't want to go to the Plum Island to the uh refuge. >> Yeah. >> Um spot there just just below. Um, we did also we did talk I think briefly in the last meeting or two
meetings ago about like off Route One there's a um a canoe put in but you have to sort of carry carry your uh your watercraft down to uh a fairway to even I think put
it in. I don't know if you guys remember talking about that. Um kind of just just north of the old Newbury >> Country Club. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. And as we said, there's a sign there, but it's not >> right. >> It's not great. So, do we want to put a
star there at that route one where it crosses is that Parker River or do we >> Yeah, we could do that. And then there's also the one on Middle Road, you know, as you keep going up the river. So, you know, those might be two that we um also
put in here as part of a broader discussion. >> Yeah. The one on Middle Road, the parking is Oh, not it's not a busy road, so it's okay, but it's not great. >> Yeah. So, it might be an example of we can mark it, but as you know, maybe I don't know if it's a different color,
but something. >> Yeah. or or just even in the narrative call it out as a possible area to do more with in the future. >> Sophie, are you going to need kind of like coordinates for any points that you
don't already note on this map? >> I don't think so. If if you said Middle Road, that's the only one I'm just I don't know where Middle Road is, but if I zoom in and I It will just cross. Where is that? Yep.
>> Yeah. I mean, we don't we don't necessarily have to market even. I mean, depends similar uh you know, based on what Bill just said about it's it's got very limited uh access. >> I mean, I guess it it begs the question
of do we want to note it because we want to include it in our action plan for the next 10 years >> that we want to actually do something there to make it more accessible to folks. >> Yeah. And it's so it's all salt marsh there. So I feel like that's a really tall ask
>> to like create a parking area where there's just like the roadway and then salt marsh. I think that that's going to be a steep climb um >> to get anything approved. But I >> So I'm kind of torn about whether we show it or we don't show it. Even though it is boat access, is it like legitimate
boat access? So maybe we only include what is maybe legitimate boat access. And I'm not sure which way this one that one goes, but it does seem a little I mean, we've used it, but it doesn't mean it was right.
>> Right. Same here. >> What do you guys think? I think we can skip it and just include it in any narrative, but or or not include it at all if we feel like it's a uh it's an an unlikely
candidate in the future. >> Yeah, I think >> do you want >> Oh, sorry. Go ahead, Bill. >> I was just going to say I I agree. I think that we just don't do it because it's um it's kind of an ad hoc type of boat ramp at this point. But if we ever did want to improve boat ramps, we could point to that is like we have all this
water and but we only have, you know, three access points and then here's an example where people are trying to get to the water, but it's it's a poor site because of that or something. We could use that as almost like leverage. So, I'd say leave it off, but if we need to
make a point, we could use that as an example, I guess. >> Does it feel appropriate here maybe to just have on the map marked locations for boat ramps that have kind of like available parking can handle kind of
like more accessible boat launch rather than kind of having to carry in a craft to get it in the water? I'm seeing some nods. >> I'm just thinking initially, you know, like somebody picks this up and they look at it and they go out to a site
that hasn't been improved, you know. Um, I I like Christina's thought about you, you know, using it somehow, you know, in an action item or or a goal uh for the committee in the town because there isn't a lot of good water access points.
Yeah, I feel like we could, you know, we could note use this map as a place where there currently are um accessible locations with parking where you're not having to go to great lengths to get your boat in the water. And then we we obviously know as a committee like where the other, you
know, sort of, you know, under the radar places are that we could potentially put into an action item. So, um, just because it's not marked on here doesn't mean we can't, you know, use it or improve it later,
if that makes sense. >> With that in mind, do these look like these three that we have on here, are those points that have parking that are accessible, or do you want to take Do you want us to take that northernmost one off that's just kind of like by the bridge?
>> There's actually parking there. >> There is. Yeah. Okay. >> There's quite a bit actually. >> Yeah. >> So, these three sites look good. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Great. >> All right. I think that is it for
updates on maps. Okay. I think I stopped sharing my screen, but let me know if if I didn't. >> You're good. >> Awesome. Sweet. Well, I think then yeah, whatever you guys want to do, if you
want to walk through the comments that I made, I'm certainly happy to speak to those. >> I think that's a great idea. Um, we could even share the document. Um, I don't know if if Satie if you have it hand if you want to share it or I I
could probably dig it up. I got it right here. Um, >> okay. Do you want to go ahead and share Bill or do you I'll make you co-host so you can do Go. >> Okay.
You guys got that right? >> Yep. >> Yeah. Okay. Um, so, okay, these are I I saw mostly your comments on here. Um,
and then there's some stuff in here and I'm not exactly sure who maybe Satie, you added the acknowledgements because I didn't see this prior. >> Yes, I added just some of the like the title page acknowledgements. Um, and
then my sections that I've, you know, worked to date, not, you know, complete, but >> Okay, great. Okay. And then I saw this highlight, but I didn't know if this was a comment. Um, this just a highlight
saying we need to add more data. >> I don't know who put that in. Yeah, I mean that I think was pulled into the index uh to the table of contents here because I had it in line um as a note that
we had, you know, under demographics and age income. There are other dem key demographics that could be included and have been included in previous years, but that data was I found challenging to get to. And um so I did I was just
highlighting it in the sense that if we feel strongly that it should be included, then coming up with a way to get it that data is something that would be needed. But we may feel okay with what we have.
>> Gotcha. Sounds good. >> Yeah, we can. >> All right. >> So then I'm going to kind of just come down to Kay's comments here. Um, okay. So Christine asked um to automate the list of tables. So that's just once
it's all done. And so I guess um that could that could be done by us too I assume. But Kay said that she could happily do that which is great. >> Yeah. Happy to take care of that. I just wanted to be cognizant of the fact that we're going back and forth with drafts.
I didn't want to like format something and then have, you know, as you guys are doing edits have it um mess up in the system. So happy to do that when we're feeling like sections aren't, you know, changing too much anymore. >> Yeah. So I know um I don't want to jump
ahead too much, but um for you guys, what would the be the best workflow then if um so we put a bunch of work into it. Um in my mind, we're going to get comments or we're going through these comments now. you, you know, you pointed out some sections that we can work on
and um there are sections that still aren't done and then do we kick that back to you guys or like as we get stuff done, should we send it to you or what do you think would work best? >> Yeah, I guess kind of a question to that
question. How are you all working on this right now? Do you have it in kind of like a shared um space where you can all access it and your changes are reflected immediately to one another? >> Well, first we split it all up. We just got
assigned sections. We volunteered to write sections and then we sent um word documents that we wrote to Sadi and they were all kept separate. um we put them into a PDF format so people can review
them and comment but not necessarily go in and edit other people's work and then people took those comments went back rewrote those sections and then sent them back to Satie and that's when she really compiled it into one working document but now we have a document that where we can go in and it's more like a
shared document that now we can all work on together. >> Okay. Yeah. I would say, you know, if you have the ability to share that document with me, um I can I'll like review it every now and then to see if
there's questions to any of my comments. Um happy to do that. Um, or you know, if you guys kind of want to all look through the comments and feel like you reach a point where you've answered, you know, questions that I've left and kind of developed areas that I've made
suggestions and are ready for me to review. I'm happy to do it that way, too. It's whatever works for you guys. >> I mean, that works for me. Does everybody else agree? >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think that what we would love is for you to actually even
just say if you can even write some of like if you're like you're missing this, but you know roughly what it needs to say, like feel free to write it and then we can refine it. I feel like I don't know which direction we're going in and what the direction was, but um we also want
to glean the insights that you have from doing other plans and from knowing what the state is looking for. like if there are gaps and also just to make it flow at the very end from beginning to end. Um would love some support on that too.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I think you know I'm happy to spend some time doing that. I think for this first round, I've kind of dropped suggestions for spaces where um you know, I think the narrative could be developed a little bit more and kind of
like dropped in areas where I know that other communities have spoken to kind of particulars. So, I think kind of if you consider this my first round of comments, if you want to go through those and then once you feel like you've kind of addressed all of them, I can
certainly like look at that point and if there's any gaps I noticed, I can type in kind of some holder language or if I if I know the information off off the cuff, I can certainly like add some things in there, too. If I do end up
doing that, like likely what I'll do is just track my changes in your document so you can see like what specifically I'm adding in so you can like go through and either accept or reject those changes. >> Yes. Yep, that makes sense.
>> Yeah, I I agree. I think um yeah, I just don't want everybody to just go clicking through and accept everything until everybody has a chance to review it. Um, but typically, honestly, I think if you write when you're making comments, it's on our sections. We're the ones that are going
to go and review and accept them most likely, right? So, um, yeah, we'll just have to be careful when we accept them, I guess. But I think that's, you know, I think it's helpful. Hopefully, it's and it's, you know, hopefully it's not too much. I feel like this, we're getting there,
right? So, hopefully there's not too many comments. >> Okay. All right. So, this is in the deduction. You had a comment here. I think it was pretty self-explanatory. Um, I believe um Sadi wrote this.
So, unless there's nothing else to say about it, I'm move forward. >> Yeah. Okay. So again, I think in these comments like Satie, you wrote this. So >> you would take charge in updating this
stuff. >> Yes. >> And do. >> Yeah. And if you see if you see anything, K, that I'm skimming through, just speak up cuz I don't know if you wanted to go over any section any of these comments other
>> Yeah, I mean I Oh, go ahead. If you >> No, sorry. No, go ahead, Jim. >> No, no. I mean, I appreciated this comment. I had written this section and um you know the uh what you're calling out there are the neighbor neighboring
communities and so on. Uh the inter municipal efforts uh there could certainly be more there. Um I think um I think some of this can just be reworked because there are mentions of the neighborhood neighboring communities in
one of the paragraphs right below here below the map. And uh so um you know I think in general I think the challenge I faced with this section is that the previous version was you know 20 or so pages and if you look at some other
towns and how much is you know new reports or 2000 well there one from 10 plus years ago is 35 pages this section the state you know is saying it should be two to three pages long the whole section there's a really a lot to cover
there So if anything, we kind of talked about that and the fact of go a little more minimal and uh you know add on as comments come in. Um I think what you're saying makes a lot of sense with that first comment highlighted as well as uh
the the next one about zoning bylaws uh ordinances and overlays. You know, we have the So we have the map here. Oh, the next map. Sorry, I'm kind of jumping ahead to the next comment. >> I think SC
>> Yeah. Oh, sorry, not that comment, but anyway. Um, >> are there particulars in town where the demand is higher? >> Yeah, I think Jim, I'm looking along on like my version of this and you're talking about for >> subsection C growth and development
patterns. I noted that in this section you should also speak to zoning ordinances and overlays and how they either like protect or fail to protect open space areas. Uh I I commonly see missed in this section too. Um, I feel
like one of the easy things to do with an OSRP is kind of like get lost in the weeds of the technicalities of how your municipality functions and, you know, maybe lose sight of the fact that you're speaking to open space. Um, but yeah, I
think, you know, the approach of writing less and filling in with comments is a good approach. the OSRP handbook this round is like really cognizant of like trying to keep the push for municipalities short and making sure that these documents aren't, you know,
like an ordeal to get through. So yeah, I think if you're, you know, to as much extent as you feel that it's useful to talk about those things, I think like for the intermunicipal um efforts and kind of larger regional efforts that um
in SE subsection A there is a good spot to speak to that because there's really no other spots in the OSRP that are talking about your regional context. Um, so that that's why that comment's there. And yeah, you know, a lot of these comments are just kind of pointing you guys towards things that I see
commonly missed that kind of come up towards the end of an OSRP review just so you can catch them early on. >> Yeah. No, that makes sense. >> Perfect. Yeah, that's great. All right, I'm going to skim ahead here then, but if I go by something, anybody, Jim or
anybody, just let me know. Yes. So I mean we can just stop briefly here at the zoning map. You know this is the one where there is the zoning map and it's not it there is data in here but there's no
reference to you know what in the key of the zoning map. there's very little reference to uh you know the the diff if you go scroll down a little bit more to show the key there in the bottom right >> just microscopic but um you know there's
there could be a little more language I think that just ties it together because it's sort of like well why have then of a visual and not really mention it at all. So, um, >> I can't get I can't really blow it up, but yeah, >> it's real. Yeah. Yeah, totally. And we
may want to >> we may want to uh maybe enlarge that key a little bit somehow. So, um because it is really hard to read even in regular um size. But >> so um anyway, I think I think there is a
little bit that can be done here without turning it into sort of this technical overview of you know going through each kind of uh zoning type and so on. Um >> yeah. Yeah, I definitely don't think you need to kind of like walk through every type of zoning. I think just kind of
like broadly think about how they support kind of like either the preservation of open space or kind of like recreation in your area and just speak to those. >> Yep. And then, you know, beyond what's like the actual um they're statewide,
you know, with the OSRD and then the multif family overlay district. Um you know, there's a little bit sprinkled in there already. So, um I think just adding a a tad more um might be a good
idea. So, thank you for that comment. >> Definitely. >> All right. So, yeah. >> Oh, this is the B the boat ramp. So, we looked at that map.
All right. Got that covered. All right. Section four, so um environmental inventory now. I think um Christine and I wrote a lot of that. So we covered this table already. >> Shade trees in heavily populated areas.
I think Christine and I both worked on this a little bit. Um there really aren't I mean unless I don't know maybe the committee has another thought on this. I think I purposely didn't include it because we don't have heavily populated areas
that need shade trees. >> Yeah, I was mostly curious. Um, and again, this was kind of like the whole if it says if applicable, it's really cuz I'm I'm not like super informed about Newberry's efforts around like these specific things. Um, I know you guys are kind of a more rural area and
that your your population is more spread out, so I wasn't sure if you had any kind of shade tree endeavors, but um, this one particularly, I was just curious because oftent times we kind of like look at OSRPs from a planning standpoint. Um, kind of like in tandem
with things like hazard mitigation plans and municipal vulnerability plans and high heat or extreme heat is something that is touched on often across these documents. So just curious, but if you feel like there's nothing applicable to Newberry, feel free to ignore the
comment. >> Yeah, I know that's helpful. I think they've specifically called that out too in the guidance document. So um >> are you aware of anything that the town has for public shade trees, living public shade trees that we have any efforts that are going on that we need to reference in here?
>> Um no. Um, but we do have I I know next to nothing about this, but we do have a tree fund that um uh planning uh applicants submitting permits to the
planning board. if they're cutting down a bunch of trees on their property, they um are required to uh submit money to the town tree fund. So, that could be something we could
mention, but I would like to maybe look into it a little bit more before we put it in there. But, um >> it seems like the only area that maybe could use she shade trees is the island. Um, and the only place I could think of
that's really that that the town has much to do with would be the parking areas. Maybe we could think about that. >> Yeah, I don't I don't know any projects around planting trees in Newbury. Um >> yeah, >> but but
>> yeah, >> the rest of the town has has seems to have plenty of trees, >> but uh >> yeah, you know, and Jim, it might be that as part of your in the zoning section that we actually do, this feels like a regulatory piece that maybe you can weave in a sentence that says as you
know, in accordance with XYZ, whatever the regulation is. Um, you could weave in that there's a tree fund with a little description. >> Yep, that's that. >> Okay, >> good idea. Okay, moving forward.
Um, we just covered that. Yep. And, uh, yeah, longired bat is noted. There's I think the the guidance document says to whatever list your the main primary primary species. So I might have missed
one or two in there, but I can double check that. And that's a thanks for the source. I'll go to that for sure. >> Yeah, definitely. This is one too where it's like um the state or the handbook gives you kind of like the state
database for endangered um species and it often kind of like doesn't really touch to federally protected or endangered or threatened species. But kind of as like best practice, it's nice to include those so that when you refer back to this document, um you have like
the full list of species that might as you're implementing actions might have like time of year restrictions or things considerations like that as you move through the action plan. So this is one that like I almost always kind of like catch on an OSRP review. So really like
just kind of like run that little um the source that I provided will give you like a whole report for the entire town. You can just plop those in if they're missing. >> Okay. Yeah. Well, thanks. That's >> tip. All right. >> Good.
Um, we'll need a required map number seven, climate. Yeah. So, this is a climate page, uh, climate change impact section. There's been a couple hands in on this. Um, map. >> Yeah.
Satie did send me I know you guys are working with the um Essex County Green Belt on some kind of like climate impact maps. Sadi sent me some of those and it it looks like those will cover this um requirement but just wanted to like make I didn't see a map in there for climate
change so just wanted to make note of that. >> Gotcha. Good. Okay. Let's see. So, this is our committee. Um, com Mike decided. Yeah. So, I think
that's just us. We got that covered. It's more between Christina and Mike. Okay. Okay. There's not a lot of comments. I guess we're doing really good, huh? >> You guys are You guys are doing a great job.
>> Thanks. All right. Uh of the town plans to accessing these lands easier than learning sidewalks. Yep. And this could be informed of the action plan. Yeah. And I think we will be commenting on this in the action plan
once we get to it. There's been a lot of talk about improving trails and access. So >> Mhm. I think that. >> Yeah, definitely. I was just kind of thinking here, you know, if the town is already doing things like expanding
sidewalks or improving sidewalks um or any has any plans around expanding kind of like biking lanes, you know, regardless of whether they're kind of separated or protected or just integrated into the road. Um you can always mention like ongoing pro projects
here. Things like that do make like accessing public open space easier. So, good place to touch on that if you can think of anything that's happening. >> Great. Okay. >> So, um in this section here, if you could stay on this one for a minute.
This is something that I've been struggling with because, um I feel like we're writing this plan and we're giving existing conditions, but really we want to protect more of the land. I feel like Newberry is, you know,
a bit of a gem where it has some protected open spaces and it just has open spaces in general, but a lot of the open spaces are also at risk of being developed. And so in order to continue along a good path, we
in some ways I feel like we're um hurting ourselves by touting how much open space we have because they'll be like, "Well, we're not going to give you any grants because you've already got a ton of open space." And so I don't necessarily want to talk about all the great open spaces that are here. I want
to talk more about the spaces that are at risk. And so I just wonder if you have any guidance for us on how we can balance that and like where that fine line is and if we should maybe not be so um generous in our descriptions of our
open space areas because we're actually looking for ways and support to help protecting the ones that are not protected. Yeah, I I think that's a great question. I think that so much of the Commonwealth is kind of
like at risk for development in terms of kind of open space in general, but also more specifically like climate resilience as you know our our flooding is becoming worse, our temperatures are getting hotter in the summer and like hot days are getting longer and things
like that. So I think you know especially um the the departments that do look at this kind of document generally see the value in having a lot of open space and they won't be looking at those as kind of prime areas for
development. They you know because it's like the EA and the DP and the DCR that are looking at these kinds of documents. These are folks that are aware that having like large swats of land that are continuous that provide
kind of green corridors is a good thing. I think that if you're concerned about it just kind of at a local level, you can always kind of speak broadly to the re the types of resources and open space you have um kind of like on the up the first half of a section and then follow
that with like areas that you're concerned about protecting and maybe frame it more as like these are the areas we'd really like to focus on in our action plan and speak to those um their vulnerabilities, the need to
protect them more in depth. >> Yeah, I like that. We we did have a conversation that like like described the reality, you know, which is kind of good, but then make sure you follow right up with the, you know, the issue. And so just this one section,
park and open space equity kind of jumped out at me because I feel like where we landed, you know, the lack of public transportation was like the issue to getting to that land. Um, and so that's how we wo it into this
paragraph. And anyway, I feel like we might want to like make the what we're concerned about conversation a little more emphasized throughout the whole document and all the sections maybe just so that
we really are keying into why we're writing this open space plan, which is to try and protect more open space or make it more accessible. Yeah, definitely. And I think there are a lot of ways to kind of speak to that too in terms of other concerns that
certainly the state has like climate resilience. We know that there's a big push for things like the Mass Ready Act that are supporting climate resilience in terms of flooding especially. So there is a lot of value to be had in land that is undeveloped and I would definitely encourage you to play that up
if you're concerned about that value being missed by anyone reading this. Great. Yeah, those are good points. And uh I know myself when I was writing my section, I found it challenging because it's pretty easy to key in all the good stuff. So
yeah, we do need to describe the full picture. All right. So then um this is section six. So, I just want to skip ahead because that's a bigger Yeah, that's a I think that's kind of actually that's
almost another agenda item, but you did have a comment in here. Um, right. And so, this will fill as we go. Um, yep. If they call in the narrative, right? So, that's kind of the plan. Um,
and so yeah, let me Okay, so I think that that's pretty much it for the document. The the section six analyst analysis and needs still needs to be worked on. There's a bunch of um some stuff in here, but I think
uh that's kind of where we left off last meeting actually is how we were going to get that done. Um, so does the committee have any other questions or input um on on this and on the comments?
Okay, I can stop sharing here for a second. Right. Right. And so yeah, so section six and action plan is kind of the next agenda item. So, um I mean if I don't think you guys need to stay for the rest of the meeting. I
think we got what we needed. Um we kind of have a a plan to move forward. I think that we can go back and refine what we've done and then we have some other sections that we need to complete. Um, is there a should we uh maybe a
question to the committee is how would you like to approach and best utilize Marramac Valley's resources? We can come up and we can work on our sections and then when we feel like it's time to push them forward if we need more support or help or more review from
Marramac Valley, then that would be the time. I mean, I feel like the the maps are to me look really good. Like I think we're getting there. I think we're missing Well, we just need to get the one from um Green Belt that on the climate change
um stuff. So, um but how does everybody else feel about this and what do you think would be the next best approach? Um, I just wanted to say, um, I think once, uh, once we're done, um, discussing the
draft, um, I had asked Kay to discuss some ideas for approaching or continuing to work on the action plan. Um, and talking about next steps there for for us to for
us to work on. Um, so I just wanted to note that that will be the next phase here. Um, but yeah, any any other final questions on the the draft so far? >> I'm good. I'm just trying. Am I still sharing? I
can't tell. >> Yes, you are. >> I would stop that. Stop sharing. How's that? Nice. >> You got it. >> Okay. >> Yeah. I think if any if you guys don't
have any other questions on comments, um I like I said, I'm happy to do what works best for you guys if you as you're working through my comments if you have any questions for me. I'm happy to be accessible. Um and then I'm happy to re-review as things come along. Um, like
Sadi said, I'm kind of working with her on the back end to help kind of like move a couple other things along. So, we're talking through some options for that right now. Um, but yeah, I'm really just happy to support you guys in whatever way works best for you. So,
just let me know and I'm around. >> Okay. And then, Satie, I know that you've had some thoughts um and discussions then again about the action plan um and how the next steps to get that done. Um, did you want to go over that?
>> Sure. Yeah. So, um, uh, in talking with Kay and with, um, Martha Taylor, who had a pretty big hint in the last plan, um, we were, I mean,
we've discussed this long ago, but, um, I know there's been some, you know, some, you know, differing opinions on how we should approach the action plan. Um but um we have our
um current you know brain dump sort of style list of things um that we have taken from you know the survey um comments at the public meeting um from
last year. Um, and I think also what we should do is just look at the last plan and um, just kind of, you know, go down the list and check things off. Have we has this been
completed? Has this not been completed? All right, let's take it over. Um and you know once we have that list of things um that need to be that are being brought over, we can still you know
refine it from that point on um and you know reorganize it, prioritize it how we want for the new update. Um and um K uh I know made a great um tool
that we can use going forward um just to keep us organized. Um I think a brain dump is good but at some point we do want to make it you know a sort of hierarchy. Um, and
I think Martha had mentioned, you know, a good way to go about completing that evaluation of the old plan um would be um maybe um her she offered to help um since she
you know helped with the last plan. Um she proposed that um Mike since you were also on the um committee when you were making the last plan as you said um that you and Martha and either myself or um
maybe Bill um could just go through and it would take you know an hour or two to just you know figure out what needs to be brought over this the you know detailed like on the ground level things that need to be brought over
um and then we can you know organize it and then bring it to the committee and we can discuss. It might just be easier to do it that way than you know going through each thing in detail on a meeting. I think that would last for a very long time. So um I think maybe
subcommittee bringing it to the whole whole committee um might be an easier approach. Um but yeah, let me know what you all think about that. Ad, do you want me to talk really really briefly about kind of the module that I
sent you that we we have folks use to kind of guide action plans? >> Yeah, that would be great. >> Yeah. So, I sent SD over kind of we do this kind of like two-step or rather I guess three-step module approach to developing an action plan where the
first step would be to review your prior action plan. um not necessarily to dictate the update plan, but rather just to note anything that's been completed to speak to in the narrative and then to see if there were any action items that weren't completed that you still feel
are a priority to your community. Um literally just like highlighting those um noting the ones that have been completed. We would have typically we would have like you send that back to me. I would pre-populate that into a
module that then kind of like divides those into your five broad goals. Um I saw in this draft that you guys are still working on developing those, but you can even just carry over if you feel it's appropriate the goals from the last OSRP. Those are just going to grab kind
of like the broad categories of the actions that you might take and then do um so I would pre-populate those into this module that we have and I would give it back to you guys to brainstorm kind of more actions that fall into
those broad objectives. Um not getting too detailed just so that you know your OSRP should be a guidance document rather than kind of like a step by step for the next 10 years. That would be pretty intense. Um, but then I would have you guys kind of brainstorm areas on that, ask for a little more
information about um, kind of like what municipal departments might be involved in those things. You all could work through that together. You send that back to me when you feel like you have like a good amount of of kind of like broad goals on there. I would put kind
of pre-popular that into a next module that would help you prioritize which actions to actually include in the action plan. based on things like um feasibility and timeline and crossover
with other municipal um goals or other departmental goals and things like that. And then I would like score those based on your results and give you kind of a ranked priority list to consider for your action plan. So that's kind of the steps that we would have you all do if
that sounds like a good approach to you all. Happy to guide you through that process. and Satie and I are kind of like reviewing this on the back end and trying to see if it's a good fit for you guys. So, that's kind of a quick lowdown on what that would look like. >> Yeah, I mean that seems like a really
great approach step by step. Um, and you'll give us structure, something to follow that will help us kind of bang it out, get through it. So, um I mean I I'd like to hear from the rest of the committee if people want to if they think that's the right approach. I think
it would sounds like it makes sense to me. >> Yeah, I agree. >> Yeah, I think I do too. Ultimately ultimately arriving at a having using scoring to prioritize I think would
make a lot of sense. >> Yeah. And I'm I'm happy to go through the 2010 action plan and pull that apart a little bit. >> I was just looking there were over a hundred or around a hundred actions in
there. Um so I think we Yeah. >> We were ambitious. >> You were? Yeah. No, no, it's it's very ambitious. It's great. >> We need to see how many we got done. >> Yeah. >> So yeah, Mike, I can work with you on that, too. I've got a couple things come
up in the short term, but we can we can work it out. >> Okay. All right. >> Do you want us to reach out to Martha Sadi about that effort or >> um I can she's been in the office every day recently cuz since Kristen's out,
she's been helping me with stuff. So, um I can just um like send out an email to all of you to maybe find a time to work on that. I'm so I'm so glad that you're interested in that effort.
>> Yeah, we can work out logistics, Mike, on if we wanted if it's easier to do Zoom or if we meet someplace >> um after work or something like that or on the weekend. I don't know what Martha's schedule's like, but it can be
available some weekends, too. >> Sounds good. >> Okay. Well, then that's a good good approach. Um so uh so we do have these maps from um
Essex Green Belt and these are the prioritization maps and uh we took a look at them um a little bit I think before and we you know Satie and I when we were creating the agenda we thought that it would be good to look at those
again. It could help us u develop our action plan. Um, so rather than tacking it on to the end of this meeting, which would have been really long, um, we were thinking of doing another meeting, maybe a little bit more abbreviated one, a little bit shorter, just to meet with
Bessie's Green Belt and go over those maps. Um, they're kind of waiting. They said they're ready to do it. Um, and so rather than putting them off a month, um, until the next meeting, we considered an intern meeting. Um, I
don't know how people feel about that. It could be another remote meeting. Actually, I think they work pretty well, especially when we're all pouring over a map together. Um, how's that? How do people feel about that? >> Works for me.
Yeah, me too. >> Same. >> Good. So, I'm going to be the limiting factor unfortunately because I am going to be gone. Um, I'm not going to tell you what I'm doing, but I'm gonna be gone for 10 days someplace warm. And um,
and I'll be >> What's the date, though? In two weeks. It's April 7th. >> Uh, I'll be gone the 10th to the Well, >> yeah, I'll be gone the 10th to the 18th. >> So, what about the 7th?
>> That works >> for me. Um, do >> you all not Oh, sorry. Not say do we are we finished with our action plan OSRP draft discussion? I I want to let these
guys go if they're if we are done with them. >> I feel good. I feel good about it. Definitely. >> Thank you. >> All right. Yeah. Thanks for Thank you all. Yeah. Yeah, if you haven't,
>> we're around. >> All right. >> Yeah. Be in touch. >> Nice to meet you. >> Thank you guys so much. >> Bye. >> All right. Good night. >> Bye. Thank you. >> Um, >> Tuesday the 7th works fine for me in the
evening, same time. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Seventh is the uh it's the Parker Riverbank. Uh, tree planting. I don't if that matters any, but that's in the morning. >> Oh, really? Oh, nice. I forgot about
that. >> Um, I have a question. If we're doing Zoom, can people do earlier in the evening, like six, or is seven still the easiest time for people? >> Six is fine.
is okay with me. Y >> yeah, I could probably do the seventh and six if I might be able to make it work. Yep. >> Okay, Mike, does that work for you? I know sometimes you're coming from somewhere. >> Yeah, I'm just going to my work calendar
here real quickly. >> If it's if it's not going to work, then don't worry. It's just >> No, no, no. It should. I just want to make sure there's not a conflicting thing on the 6th or on the 7th rather. Sorry.
No, I'm good. I can do whatever time on the 7th. >> Awesome. Do I want to say six o'clock on Zoom? I I I do have to make sure that Green Belt can make that. Yeah. So, I will let you guys know if that'll
work, but at the moment, seven, April 7th at 6 works for everyone. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Aby's calendar right now is open at that time. >> Oh, so she can't say no. Okay, sounds good.
>> Barring any personal uh life thing, you know. Uh >> yeah, >> work-wise, she's good. >> All right, cool. Glad we know. I don't have Becca's calendar or on mine right now. >> The inside scoop. We're getting the inside scoop,
>> right? >> That's true. >> That's right. >> Well, that sounds good. >> Bill and Mike, I'll be in touch about um an action plan subcommittee meeting time. >> There's really a hundred things on that
action plan. >> Uh like, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if that was the that was the number. So, just one minute on each one and there's an hour and a half. So, >> hopefully you'll get it will go quick. >> You like Riverwalk, Bill?
>> Yeah, sounds perfect. >> Grab a picnic table and you go. >> All right. >> 100 action items. My god. >> Back up. >> I don't know what I signed myself up for. >> I know. I was thinking like it's
probably like a dozen, right? Let's Let's not pay attention to how many there are. >> Doesn't have to be one go either. >> Can break it up. >> Um All right. Well, that'll be fun. So, yeah. Any other um committee member
updates? Um yeah, the Riverways thing got essentially rained out. Um I know Sean, you you signed up for it. Um because I work for DMF, I knew that they were still going to go and check it out. So
Christy and I brought our waiters and went and we we actually got a bunch done that day. It wasn't as bad as I think forecasted, but when I talked to the organizers, there were like I can't imagine having 50 people here right now cuz it was the river was high, running hard, and it was muddy. So, I'm kind of
glad they pushed it off um for the bigger group, but it was really enjoyable and I was the river is really pretty and I couldn't believe it was right behind the the office, the uh town offices there. I didn't I didn't realize that's how far back up it went. So, um I
think it was a great activity. Um it was really cool. Um met a lot of people from around the town and and people from outside Newberry showed up. So, it was good. So, I'd say Sean, if you're still planning on going, enjoy it. It was a good activity.
>> And if you have waiters, there might be a different access point for that day, but the day that we went, you had to like walk underneath a bridge through the river. And so knee boots were kind of sketchy. Although now that the river's come down, I bet you can get through it with knee boots. But um if you had waiters,
>> even hip waiters, that would have been better. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> They can come up from >> We'll see. >> Larkin Street, too. So you don't have to go on the bridge, but I don't know what that access is like because we didn't walk it. Right. Okay. Um hearing nothing else. No
more updates. Um so the next meeting then would be what? The 21st. >> Is that right? >> That's what it looks like. Yeah. >> Yep. Does that work for everybody? Yeah. And um
I I mean I say seven, but if I don't know I guess >> yeah we can stick to seven for regular meetings. >> Okay, >> if that works >> that is better for me for sure. >> Um especially if um if we're going to do
in person. How do people do people want to do in person or do you want to do and in person or do you want to do another Zoom? I can go either way. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Me, too. >> May three. >> What was the date? >> 21.
>> 21. >> Okay. Yep. Yep. All right. Great. >> All right. We'll we'll do an in person. Um and then uh Yep. And then if if something comes up or if it's easier for people to switch it to Zoom, I know I'm flexible, so just just shout out to
Sadie. She could update the group. >> Do you have a board meeting that night? now that I'm looking at that. >> Yeah, >> but I don't necessarily always have to be at those. So, I can keep you posted on that.
>> Um, yeah. I mean, we could move it either push it a week or we can move it to a different day if you want to if you don't want to miss your your board meeting. Well, >> I mean, I'd say keep it for now.
Okay, >> excellent. All right, then I think that's a wrap. So, good work. Um, and seems like we've done everything on the agenda. So, I will move to ajourn.
>> Uh, second or Sean second, right? >> Okay. >> All in favor? >> I >> I >> All right. Thanks everybody.