Today's um August 20th, 2025 confirming member all members are here. Um as a preliminary matter this 49th chair of the new planning board, permit me to confirm that all members and persons
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>> here. >> Mary Stone, >> yes. >> And town staff Kristen Grubs, >> director. >> Yes. >> Very good. >> Good evening. August 20th, 2025, open meeting of the new replanning board is
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uh appearances, submissions. We don't have any. So, we'll move on to liaison and meeting reports. >> First up is Larry, ZBA. >> Um, I really don't have much to report, Woody. They haven't met since our last
meeting. Uh the regular uh monthly meeting was scheduled for tomorrow night, but I understand that it's uh has to be continued. Uh the only uh significant item on the agenda was that two Plum Island Boulevard project that we've talked about in the past. So that's really all I have.
>> Okay. Thank you, Larry. Uh next is conservation commission. Um, we do not we had a meeting uh right before our last meeting and I did a report that we we didn't have a meeting last night. We have one a month in the
summer and our next meeting is in the first Tuesday in September. And then we have a MVPC Christmas. Um, we have not had a commissioner's meeting
because they take the summers off. Um, and the planners, the monthly planners group does as well. Um, however, I have a couple meetings with MVPC staff next week. Um, I guess I'll just mention them now. I could mention them later in my
report as well, but um one is I'll be meeting with the housing um staff, Ian Burns, who you recall helped the town with the um MBTA 3A multif family zoning. Um meeting with
him because they have some technical assistance funding to help the town look at inclusionary zoning. Um, we talked about this a little at the earlier meeting this summer about um potential zoning amendments for town meeting. So,
I'm meeting with Ian next week to um just kind of sketch out his technical um assistance for the town and the planning board. and I'll follow up with all of you about um you know if we have want to have a working group or have Ian come to
a future agenda um I'm going to start having those conversations with him about inclusionary zoning which as you know is a way to encourage more affordable units um in uh multiple unit
developments in Newbury through zoning bylaw amendments. Um, and then the other, um, meeting with MVPC next week is, um, uh, I'm just going to pull up the email. Um, MVPC is working on a
regional industrial zone profile. Um, they're evaluating existing industrial zoning and identifying strategies to expand capacity for new businesses and industry across the region. Um this is sort of an extension of the um
comprehensive economic development strategy, the Seds plan, which is a five-year plan um that was approved in 2023. So they're in the middle of those five-year goals um and you can go to
MVPC's website and search for SDS DEDs um to show those outline those economic development goals. So anyway, they're hoping to sort of have our preliminary conversation about Newber's industrial zoning, including any recent or future
changes or um strategies that the town is interested in terms of prioritizing um areas for economic growth in industrial ways, industrial zoning. So that's a little bit interesting to me. I
don't have a lot of um background in that. I haven't really seen new industrial projects come through the planning board recently. So, I've invited Martha Taylor, previous director, to join that. Um, she has
obviously more history working um all the zoning areas of the town. So, um so there's a little update planners report for you related to the continuing support that MVPC does for um for Newbury. Really, really helpful work.
I'll keep you posted. >> Thank you. >> Very good. Thank you, Kristen. >> Yep. >> That brings us to the next item on the agenda, meeting minutes. We have meeting minutes for um July 30th, I believe,
which is our workshop, and then um August 6th. So, we'll do one at a time here. July 30th, has everyone had a chance to review the meeting minutes? Seeing a few nods.
Um, anyone have any comments or corrections on the July 30th, 2025 meeting minutes? >> No. >> Hearing none, I'll I'll entertain a motion to approve the July 30th meeting
minutes, 2025 meeting minutes. >> I'll make that motion. >> Thank you, Larry. Do I have a second? Second. >> Thank you, Steve. Roll call vote. Uh, Peter, >> yes, sir. >> Larry,
>> yes. >> Scott, >> yes. >> Steve, >> yes. >> And Mary, how do you feel? >> Fine, thank you. >> Okay, thanks. So, that's and I vote yes as well. So, that's the July 30th. Now, move on to
the August 6 meeting, man. Um, everyone's had a chance to review them. Um, does anyone have any comments or corrections? >> Hearing none, I'd entertain a motion to approve the August 6, 2025 meeting
minutes. >> I'll move. >> Thank you, Larry. Do I have a second? >> Second. >> Thank you, Steve. Roll call vote. Peter, >> yes, sir. >> Larry,
>> yes. >> Scott, >> yes. >> Uh, Steve, >> yes. >> And Mary, how do you feel? >> Yes. >> Very good. And I vote yes as well. So, that gets our meeting minutes out of the way. It's good that we're keeping up on
those. Now, I have a few more minutes here. Uh 7-Eleven first public hearing thoughts at 7:15. Larry, you don't have your um dad jokes book handed. >> No, I do not. No, I've misplaced it,
Woody. >> Everyone's uh relief around here, but >> y So, in just a few minutes, we'll get started with the first public hearing. Has
anybody heard of the Air France joke? I shall try to recreate it. Um the executives at Air France decided that they wanted to educate um a a se section of Mississippi and set up
a a response team that would take phone calls and answer questions. And it was an area they hadn't ever gone into. So they were curious as to how it would go.
and they um gave everybody an education in in how to say things, accent to make it not so regional, to make it more understandable.
So they went to everybody in a group and said, "How do you say Air France?" and people mumbled out, you know, various dialects. And so the executive said, "All right,
here's what you do. You answer the phone." Air France, may I help you? And and everybody practice again. Air France, may I help you?
So everybody is asked to recreate it and they go through the whole list and everybody's fine. The last person says air bombs may I help you miss?
>> I like thank you Mary. Yes, thank you. >> Very clean. I appreciate that. >> Yeah, I only know the dirty jokes, you know, like two, what is it? Three white horses ran through a mud puddle or something. I don't know.
We're almost there, folks. And Mary, you finished with a minute to spare. >> Yep. That's great. >> Excellent. Okay. I have 7:15. Uh public hearing tonight. It's a
continuence. 100 High Road definitive subdivision application for a two lot subdivision at 100 High Road. CES map R34 lot 21. Property owner 100 High LLC applicant
representative uh John Morren P and M Cameron Group Incorporated and Peter I'll let you take over from here. >> Thanks Woody. >> Um I'd like to ask the uh applicant uh if they'd like to update the board on their application including any new
materials or any responses from peer review. >> Yes. Good evening. For the record, John MREN from the MREN Cameron Group. We're here tonight representing 100 High Road LLC for a definitive subdivision application for the property at 100 High
Road. Uh Tom Navy from 100 High Road LLC is also on the the Zoom call as well. Uh since the first meeting, which was July 16th, we had a sitewalk with a couple several uh couple of the planning board members on July 23rd.
Uh we received a review from your peerreview consultant Joe Swakka dated July 20th. Uh your planning assistant as well as Mr. Swaka were kind enough to meet myself and Tom Nevie out
at the site last Monday so that we could uh not last Monday, a week ago Monday so that we could review his uh review comments more in detail. They weren't anything major. We just wanted to make sure before we started revising the the plans that we're all on the same page.
And again, Joe and your assistant planner were gracious enough to meet us out uh on the site. We subsequently submitted a revised plan with a narrative dated August 14th and we
received a letter back from your peerreview consultant, Mr. Sawaka dated August 18th where it appears we have satisfied all of his uh original comments. Um plan revisions are pretty minor. If the board would like I can
share my screen and I can go over the the changes. >> That'd be great, John. Thanks. >> I guess um you just need to enable that I can share screen. I think. Try try it now, John. >> Yep. Perfect.
>> Okay, thanks. I believe you should all be able to see that. >> Can you all see my screen? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Okay, perfect. So, I'll just go I'll probably just stay on the
Well, so one of the comments Mr. Sawaka had was he wanted some additional topographic detail to prove some of the uh flow directions we were showing in our hydro model. So, what you'll see is
there's a lot more spot grades on the plan. And there's additional spot grades along the property lines, the rear line, the subtly line. We actually met when we're on site with Joe and Satie, your assistant planner.
Uh we were able to show them uh by just walking the site that there's pretty much a burm along this subtly lot line so that runoff from the farm or runoff from us does not go onto that of butter. We also were able to show Joe uh using
some mass GIS data that there is an off-site subcatchment over in the northwesterly side of the site that kind of flows back onto us, but based on the existing topography that we have, it never gets into our drainage proposed
drainage basin here. So pre-imposed conditions exactly the same for that subcatchment and Joe agreed with that. With regards to the property lines, the major change, you may remember the original design, we're requesting relief
for a 40 foot wide rayway. Um, and you may remember at the first hearing we presented that Mr. Nei did meet with the fire lieutenant and they requested that the pavement with be increased to 20 ft. Uh, that was done.
Uh we had actually mentioned at that planning board meeting that we'd be making that change. Because of that, we actually increased the right ofway from our proposed right ofway from 40 to 43. We needed a little extra room uh to get that to work. And because of some
changes that I'll go over in a minute with regards to drainage, we needed some additional room. So again, uh since the last plan that you saw, we've increased the proposed rightofway width from 40 to 43 feet. uh we still need the relief
because your regulations require a 53 ft uh right ofway. So that still is shown on the plan. Minor revision to the lot line between what's shown is proposed lot 1A and lot 2. When we increased that right ofway,
uh lot 1A ended up smaller than 40,000 square ft, which is the minimum required size for this zoning district. So, we just had to modify the lot line between proposed lots 1A and lot two. And um a very minor change.
So, I'm going to zoom in a little bit. One of the things we did, so again, we increased the proposed roadway width from 16 ft, which is what we were originally pro proposing, to 22 feet. And
we originally tried to design a crown on the road. and we're having an issue trying to grade it without having to put retaining walls in and um deal with that. So, what we did is we actually super elevated the road. So, as you're driving into the site, the road pitches
from right to left. Um again, it's a minor road. It's only for two lots, 20 ft wide. We've designed a swale on the left side of the road as you drive in. The swale is designed in compliance with
the criteria that uh Mr. Saka recommended uh changes to on his initial review. So it's a 1 ft deep uh 1 foot wide grass swale.
As we pointed out in the presentation, our original presentation on July 16th, uh the fire cap, uh the lieutenant was okay with um a steeper road grade. And we had mentioned to the planning board at that time that we were going to
provide the 2% leveling area in the front, change to a 10% road grade, and then flatten out at the bottom. And that's exactly what you see here. And what that did as we presented at that meeting is, you
know, the original road was up up here, so it reduced the amount of fill that we're going to need down in this location. So, that was a good change. It'll help the road kind of sit in there a little better. based on the changes in
the drainage and go into this swale on one side. What we've done is we put a a drainage structure right at the base before the driveway heads over to lot two that will then take the runoff from this grass swale directed over to the
drainage basin first into the for bay and then into the proposed infiltration basin. uh because of the existing uh the grade changes and now that we're not trying to redirect runoff around the proposed dwelling for lot three, we've
incorporated a culvert under the roadway. We're not calling this a drainage basin. It's just a conveyance uh to get water from one side to the other. Uh one of the comments from Mr. Sawaka was he was looking for some soil data in
the infiltration basin in the forbay. Uh we had gone out conducted three soil test pits. That information has been added to the plan. Uh and all the design was updated to make sure that it was still in compliance with the soil data that we found in those test pits, which
it was. We didn't really need to modify anything with the design plans. Uh since we're talking about the basin, uh the only other minor change to the basin is we opened up the outlet a little bit uh per the recommendation by
uh Mr. Sawaka. And in our correspondence back to him, we showed him with all these additional spot grades that when the runoff actually leaves this pond, the grades at the property line are pretty much flat. You can see in here
328 328 329 329 329 331 334 you know this is all across about 120 ft. So this gives you that real shallow flow coming across and it comes across in the exact same location where current flow exits
the site. So you may recall at the hearing in July, the abuters at these two lots uh 10 and 12 Old Farmway were just commenting that they wanted to make sure that the existing drainage patterns were met and
we're maintaining those existing drainage patterns. Couple other things your consultant was looking for is he wanted verification that the wells in the area are all greater than 100 ft from the proposed infiltration basin. We
actually relocated the proposed well for lot three. So that meets the 100 foot setback. The proposed well on lot two already met it. And we actually showed offset distances from the wells on 10 old farm and 12 old farm. And the
distance from the drainage basin to the well at 10 old farm is about 219 feet and over to the well at 12 is 230 ft. And again you only need 100. So we far exceed that requirement. Earlier I was talking about these super
elevations. So, we actually added that as part of the waiver request to the title sheet under your roadway crosssection. So, some of the verbiage changed slightly in the waivers that
were requested originally, but all the same waivers are still there. Um, with the exception the right ofway width now changes from a waiver um instead of 40 feet, we're requesting 43. the pavement width instead of um 16 feet, we're now
requesting 20 where 22 is required. And all the other waiverss still remain. Uh but we also added the waiver to super elevate the road instead of a crown. And again, it was all based on drainage and
to minimize rating criteria. Uh other than that, everything's pretty much the same. The offset for the road is um still requested. Uh we got a lot closer. The road's actually about 2 and 1/2 ft. The center
line of the road is about 2 and 1/2 ft off the center line of the right of way. We are going to have to modify the plan slightly. I did notice tonight that there was a drafting error in the section detail for the road crosssection and it actually showed that it was 6
feet from center line of rightway to center line of pavement. It's actually two and a half. So we'll be changing that so that there'll be no u no concerns. Uh when the road changed we
actually as Mr. Navy discussed at the last hearing when he met with the lieutenant they had some changes in the configuration for the T turnaround. So we've made all those changes. They match the changes that Mr. Mr. Nevi had sent back to the
lieutenant and we've added those on the plan. The proposed emergency access easement that's required on lot two changed slightly. Uh so we've added that to the plan as well and those revisions have been made. Uh the only other thing that came up uh
the planning board members several of the planning board members talked about you know bringing water in potentially to this site. As we had discussed originally the house the existing dwelling on lot 1A is serviced by town water
and gas. uh lots proposed lots two and three were proposing wells and several planning board members were a little concerned about well what if the well dries up you know maybe it makes sense to bring water in um from the uh
existing main that's out on high road onto the site and at that time we informed the board that we would discuss that with the water department the potential of bringing two services across the street uh and just leaving them, you know, right inside the
property line in case we ever decide to tie into town water. It doesn't seem like that's going to be allowed. And I'll let Mr. Nei uh kind of give the board a summary of his discussion with the water department on that. Um, at
that point, I'm pretty much all set with going over the minor revisions that were made to the plan, and I'd be happy to answer any questions, but I'll ask Tom to just discuss with you a little bit uh what was uh discussed with the water department.
>> Thank you, John. Tom, >> yeah, I think I'm okay now. Um it would have been a pretty good idea to bring the water across High Road. Um probably would have had to do some underground drilling. It would have been it wouldn't have been a simple job. Um
but that's fine. We've done that before. Um the issue is and the issue is now is if we're bringing water across the road then they expect us to use it. um this kind of uh in case of emergencies, you
know, to have it available. Um it really didn't fly well, it you know, for if we're going to bring water across the road, then we're expected to use it. So, in this case, we know it's there. Um if we have to um
in all of my experience, I I really wasn't that concerned about it. I'm not concerned about any of the wells going dry. Um, I've probably developed in my 40 years of doing this, um, thousands of lots where wells were used, particularly
throughout the, you know, the towns of Toppsfield and Boxford and North Andover and other communities that I worked in, and I've never had one go dry yet. Um, probably because I'm a I'm a fierce advocate to just drill deeper and make
sure that we have sufficient supply in the stand pipe. Um, even though the state allows one gallon per minute as being an acceptable portable water supply, um, we usually don't um, we just keep drilling until we hit at least 10.
So, we're always having sufficient supply and at $8 a foot, it doesn't make any sense not to just drill deeper and have in the stand pipe. So, um we're we're quite um comfortable with the well
situation. >> Okay. Uh thank you, Tom. Let me just go around and ask board members if they have any questions. Uh Larry, do you have any questions, sir? >> Uh just a couple, Pete. Thank you. Um, unfortunately I missed the sidewalk, but I did get out there the other day. Um,
the uh the orange flag stakes that you have there, those represent the center of the way. >> They represented this the center of of the old way. Not not nothing materially different, Larry. You're just a couple feet off. You know, you you'd have to
move those stakes two feet to the left as you walk into the property and then you'd be in the center line of the way. >> Okay. Thanks. Um, as as far as the super elevation goes, um, uh, you've run that by Joe Satka, he's he's okay with it.
>> Yes. >> Because I I unless I missed it. I I I don't see that referenced in his latest communication, which was the uh, August 18th letter. >> Yeah. He didn't have a comment that related to it on his original review
because the original design actually showed um you know showed that the road had a pitch going each way. And when we met with Joe and Sadi out at the site, we discussed that we would design, you know, we're going to propose to design a
super elevated road. he didn't have an issue with it and that was the design that was submitted back to him uh with this all the other revisions. >> And the only other thing that I can add is that we're trying to work closely
with our neighbor to the north and um she's been great. we've kept her up to date with exactly what we're doing and she um from the very beginning was encouraging us to do the minimum amount of work a minimum amount of grading
against the property boundary if that's possible. So this this super elevation and allowing the swale to be on the left side of the road going in helped that out quite a bit and we'll have a 3 to one side slope to that road toward our
neighbor and easily maintainable and mowable. So that you know that was another one of the features of of getting this result. >> Okay. Um, and I just wanted to clarify one point uh on from Joe Sawka's August
18th correspondence, and this is at the bottom of page three. It looks like he was calling for 2 and 1/2 in of binder and one and a half inches of top, excuse me, for the roadway pavement. And it looks like you're proposing 2 in of
binder and an inch and a half. Is that on top? Is that an issue? Is you satisfied, Joe, on that? Yes, he didn't have a problem when we talked about it. We increased we actually increased it from the original design. I was comfortable with the
pavement thicknesses for the original design for a two lot um basically common driveway kind of situation. So, uh we did add an additional um half an inch of binder to it. Um the real uh issue is
the 12 inches of compacted gravel base in two six-inch lifts that obvious you know pavement's flexible as everybody knows especially when it's hot. So that creates a solid base. So that is more important much more important than than
the pavement thicknesses. But we're very comfortable with 2 in of binder and an inch and a half of top for this. >> Yeah. Just I was testing my math skills here and he was looking for four inches total. He says you got three and a half. Didn't seem to object to it, but I just wanted to clarify that point.
>> That that's fine. That's that's true. >> Um and um about water quality, what and educate me. What do you need to do to assure the quality of the wellwater? >> Basically, you drill drill a well and
you you test it. the well driller. Um he he drills through the soil until he hits ledge or bedrock and then he drills into the bedrock anywhere between 10 and 15
ft. Um, and then what he does is he he takes the well drill out and he puts in a six-inch casing, steel casing, and he actually rams that into the 15, 10 or 15t hole that he's already drilled in
the bedrock. and he grouts that in with uh bentonite clay and gets it sealed off completely so that there's no infiltration of the groundwater into the actual artisian well. So you'll be drinking from underground aquifers and
not any influence from the groundwater itself which is you know purifies that water supply and then he takes a sample of that water supply and brings it to a state approved laboratory who then certifies that it meets the state
drinking water standards. Once that's done, he submits that with the well um the you know the well information, the depth of well that the the quality the the yield and he submits all that information with the testing results to
the board of health for approval and then the board of health would approve the well for uh drinking water supply. >> Great. Thank you. That's all I had. Pete, >> thanks very much Larry. Um, Scott, sir, >> I don't have any questions, Pete.
>> Okay, beautiful. Steve, do you have anything? >> No, I'm all set. Thank you. >> Great. Mary, do you have any questions? Okay. I'm not sure if Mary's um has any questions. Um, I just wanted to uh a couple things. Uh first I was glad that we were able to do the sitewalk and I uh
was concerned with the slope um originally as it was described for the uh drive but uh appreciating that in fact the uh um I'm sorry I had a call coming in. Appreciating the fact that these houses are going to actually sit
down very low. I can I can I can um uh gather that that's a much more uh presentable uh view for the house to be, you know, kind of uh uh positioned. Um I did have concerns about the whether not whether or not the water line was going to be
brought across the road and I think you've you've answered that. And just to clarify, uh septic f five is all set with this right for our pest uh the test pits. Yeah, we performed um more than enough soil testing to prove that we had ample soil testing for the two new lots.
Yep. >> And one of the things that Mr. Saka brought up was he recommended that a title five inspection be submitted to the board of health for lot 1A. Uh a title five inspection was actually already performed uh before the property
was even sold. So, uh, we pro that information is on file with the board of health and the system on lot at 100 high for the existing house past the title five inspection. >> Okay, great. Thanks, Sean. And and I, you know, I will say that I always
appreciate Joe's uh Joe's comments because I think he's very thorough and very uh beneficial for applicants because it helps just kind of give clarity. Um, so at this point in time, we'd like to just turn to see if there's any public comment. Uh uh Kristen, are there any individuals that have their
hands raised um that would like to uh ask a question or make a public comment? >> Um I don't see any yet, but maybe we just give it a minute in case any of the folks on. >> Okay.
Um until then, uh Kristen, do we have any written uh public comments? No, there are I have not received anything new. >> All right. >> The only written comments were read in to the record the last time, Pete, when
we did have three abutters, right? Uh in favor of the project. >> Thanks, Tom. Um and Kristen, do you have any questions at at this point in time? >> No. And still no hands raised either. >> Okay. And there's no departmental comments?
>> No, I have not received. >> Okay. Uh let me ask the uh uh planning board members, do you have any other additional uh questions or comments? >> Is is there a desire to continue this public hearing? If we could drop the screen at this
point in time and just get to the uh back to the meeting. Thanks. Thanks very much uh John. Um okay. Uh do we have a desire to continue this public hearing? We could continue this uh to the 3rd of September or the 17th of September. I
don't know if there's any additional components that need to be addressed. >> Well, Pete, I mean, frankly, I'm I'm satisfied and I think that what's proposed makes sense for this uh for this property. I'm wondering if maybe we shouldn't I wouldn't close the public
hearing today, but I wonder if we shouldn't be thinking about drafting a decision. >> All right. I like that uh I like that direction, Larry. Um, uh, Scott, you in the same ballpark with that? >> I'm in Lar's camp. Yes. >> Beautiful. And Steve? >> Yes.
>> Okay. So, uh, uh, Kristen, I would ask that you, uh, start a draft for this. I will continue the public hearing. We'll leave it open. I'll give an opportunity for a few weeks to, uh, put this draft together. With that guidance and direction, thank you very much, Liberty. I'd entertain a motion, uh, to, uh,
continue our public hearing. Uh Kristen, would you be comfortable to have that done by the 3 or do you think the 17th would be more comfortable in your schedule? >> Um, thank you for asking the question. Um,
I am certainly willing to work to have a draft for the third. I'm not sure I would be able to have the draft available to the board um the week in advance. So, um I guess a little bit of
guidance from the board if you want to, you know, on the third have a chance to review things kind of during the hearing. I think that could work and then maybe we'd finalize for the following meeting. >> Uh well, if you think you'll have the draft uh to the board a week beforehand,
I would say great. If if the time won't allow for that and you need an additional week or so, then I would say, you know, give yourself that and you can have the draft uh you know, reviewed uh for the the meeting which might be on
the 17th then. >> Yeah, I'm trying to I'm sorry. I'm just back. So, I'm I am not clear on what else is on the September 3rd agenda yet. Um, >> so we're gonna have um Central Street.
>> So, >> yeah, that's what I was thinking. >> A lengthy conversation. So, I think the 17th might actually make more sense uh just for uh management of time. >> I think that would certainly be assured that we'd have a really good
draft by then. I could, you know, share it in advance and if there are comments and then maybe the 17th would be a good shot to get through it in one meeting. >> All right. With that said, I'd entertain a motion to continue this public hearing till the 17th of September.
>> I so move for 7:30 p.m. >> Uh 7:15. >> 7:15. >> Yes. Very good. Thank you very much, Larry. Appreciate that motion. Do I have a second? >> Second. >> Thank you very much, Scott. On the motion, how would you vote? Uh, Larry. >> Yes. >> Thank you. Uh, Scott, >> yes.
>> Thank you. And Steve, >> yes. >> And I would vote in the affirmative as well. Uh, thanks very much. We'll continue this for the 17th. Um, and I'll turn this back over to Woody. >> Thank you very much. Have a good night. Thank you. Appreciate it. >> Thanks, Tom.
>> Thank you, Pete. >> All right, moving on to the next item on the agenda. We have uh new business. 15 Central Street. Owner Alice P St. Hela Michael Becker. Applicant um presentation of preliminary
subdivision application 15 Central Street. Assess map U1-0-53 for a one lot subdivision. Um do we have Mike Becker here? Hello Mike. >> I do. >> Very good. Thank you. Um
would you like to present your application please? >> Uh I'm here this evening with Paul Finochio my surveyor who is going to make the presentation. >> Uh good evening Paul Finochio PJF and Associates in Wakefield Mass.
Um here present to you the preliminary um subdivision plan for 15 Central Street. Uh the first plan up will be uh the byite plan. if I could share the screen. >> Should be able to see if it works. >> Okay, hold on. I'm just getting there.
>> Okay, so this is our buy right plan. The property is located at the intersection of um Central Street and Church Street. Um there's an existing single family dwelling on the property on the right hand side.
what on the by right plan bringing in a roadway with the culdeac which meets Dtown's requirements for the size and width of the of the sub of the road and also the um lot area. Um this is the second sheet is our
existing addition site plan uh which shows the topography sorry and the um the trees so forth on the site. There is a easement Okay, sorry I keep hitting the wrong
buttons. Stand there. >> Oh, sorry. There is an easement over here on the right hand side which is a parking space for the gas station which is the abiding property. It's a 25 by 15 ft easement in
this spot right here. Uh what we're proposing to do is to build a roadway along the left property line coming in and then branching off to service the rear lot which will be the
new house we located up in the back area. And we'll have a a turnaround type for the fire truck access coming in and out of the site. Um, there'll be access for the existing house will come in off of this roadway
and access for the proposed house will be coming in off of off of the T. And this would be the layout of the um of the two lots, the existing roadway which will be
As we can see, it's a um 36 foot wide layout with a 22 foot wide pavement width and then branching off and then reducing down to a um 32 foot wide layout with a
22 ft of pavement. The entrance way at this point right now is 16 feet and the reason being is we have an existing utility pole but we may do some relocation at the entrance way depending on how the um turnaround truck is for the um fire department.
So that's our um plans at the moment. the I go back to the prior layout. We do have a grading plan that comes in here. This is roughly a a level area going into a 10% grade and then pitching down 7% uh which basically meets the existing
grade at that point on the U property. And again, it also the same thing as up in the rear that we come in pretty close to what's existing out here. It might be about a foot and a half higher than what's existing now. There will be some removal of ledge in
this area of the proposed road. Um, do you have any questions? >> Is that Are you good for now, Paul? >> Yes. Okay, very good. I'll turn to the board. Um, does Peter, do you have any
questions? >> I don't have any questions at this time. Thanks, Woody. >> All right, Larry. >> And just a couple of quick ones. What do you The existing house, where does it get its access now? Is it off church or central? >> It's off of Central Street. So there would be some
>> that basically uses that that's a driveway that comes in on the right hand side along the property where that easement is and they just pull into the back um and park in there. >> Okay. And and the buy right plan would that require any waiverss?
>> No. >> Okay. That's all I had. >> Okay. Thank you, Larry. Uh Scott, do you have any questions? >> Uh yeah, just just a quick one. Um Paul is the um ledge removal is that a drill
and blast um or is it a rip? Um is it a >> I don't know. I don't know yet. Um we really haven't looked into what the type of ledge material is. If we have to drill or we can hammer it. I'm just not sure. >> Okay.
I have removed ledge before using feather and wedge uh andor uh expanding grout where this is not an enormous amount of it. It's probably more financially conducive, economically viable to do it in that method versus
survey and blast. >> Agreed. >> Thank you. >> Okay, you're good, Scott. Steve, do you have any questions? I'm all set at this time. >> Okay. Thank you. Um and Mary Mary, do
you have any questions? >> Um the ledge, uh how does that does that have to be removed? >> Yes. >> I don't believe it'll be removed from the site. So, we have some other areas that are kind of in a bowl
uh around the existing house. Would like to raise that grade, flatten that a little bit. So, you don't do any blasting or anything? >> No, I don't believe that would be necessary nor
conducive uh to this situation. >> Okay. Just curious. >> All right. Thank you, Mary. And um I my questions were about the ledge as well,
and I'm satisfied with the answers. Um the pole out front. You're saying the pole's in the way of your exposed driveway? >> Yes, it's um it's just to the left of the entrance way that we're showing on the um proposed site plan. And I'm not
sure who owns the pole yet. If it would take some time, it's a if it's a Verizon pole, it may take forever. I just don't know who owns the pole. And we may have to adjust um the entrance way slightly with the lighting lot layout um to bring the road in a little bit more towards
the um southeast so we can get around that pole and it also depending on the um the fire truck access. >> All right. So you're you're going to work on that and work on with the fire department for them. >> Yes, I've already have a um an engineer
working on showing the um turnaround. I do have a plan that wasn't submitted in that I just received today if we wanted to share that and just show you what he preliminary sent me. I haven't even had a chance to even look at it since I just received it about 20 minutes ago. But we do have he says it does work within the
site. It just may be the access we may have to change a bit because of that poll. >> Okay. >> So, uh one more question, Woody. Uh yeah, go ahead. I ideally you'll want a poor relocation, right? Um
and then contingency plan. If it just takes too long with Verizon, you're going to want to just tweak the driveway. >> Correct. We'll re we'll re redo the entrance way coming into the site. So, we'll just change the um the street layout coming into the site, move it
more towards the southeast of the property. So, head it more down towards Central Street a little bit so we can get a little bit more room um away from the utility pole. >> So, the whole road will shift or >> No, no, just the entrance way. We'll change the entrance way a bit, but I
won't shift the road over. We'll we'll slide it over. Bring it on like a swing curve or something. Okay. >> Verizon can be tough. >> Yeah. I have another project that has been four years to move a pole. So, the road's already in the pole still in the
street. >> Easier to move the road now than it is to get Verizon to move the pole. >> Um, board members, would it would it be helpful if we had a sidewalk walks are always good. But Woody,
>> okay, very good. I'd like to see see it. I'm familiar with where it is and everything, but feet on the ground helps. So, um, we'll work Kristen, we'll work with the board via email, schedule a sidewalk
within the next week or so. So, depending on people's schedules. >> Yep. just pick a day when we all need to get some gas and then we can just >> walk over. Yeah, that'll be fine. >> I'm happy to schedule that. Um and then
just another update would be the um all the materials have been sent per the regulation to the other departments. Um and they have 30 days to review and get any comments back. I know um Mike and
Paul have been proactive and you know talking with folks so that's great. I haven't received anything uh in writing or otherwise yet from any of the other um staff. Um but there that date is um
let's see 30 days. So 30 days from August 4th so early September. Um the other staff have to send comments back. Okay, >> we do have a response from the fire department. I uh submitted the plan to
them as a preliminary >> if I may >> to get their feedback. >> Was that you, Larry? >> Uh yeah, I just had a question for Christian. Kristen, uh what about peer review? Have we referred this to Joe
Sarda? I don't remember if that's the practice with u a preliminary plan. >> Yeah, I it um I don't think it has to be the practice. That's my understanding is that you know a thorough peer review
happens with a definitive subdivision, but I'm not sure if the board has requested that in in previous preliminary subdivisions. It's I have not begun that process yet for this project.
>> Okay. >> Okay. Thanks, Christie. >> So, >> very good. So, we we'll have a sitewalk in the next week or so and Crystal will coordinate that with the board. So, everyone check your emails and respond,
please. >> Would that be during the week? Uh yeah, I'm just asking is like next week's Labor Day weekend, so I'm not sure if anyone's around or not or is it during the week? >> Um that usually during the week and Kristen, you UCC
the board uh the applicants, excuse me, along with the board so that coordinate so they'll be there, right? >> Yeah, I know. Um, I I guess while we're while we're on it, Paul and Mike, do you have do you know of times that would be
appropriate? I know. I'm not sure. Is someone living in the house now? >> There's no one moving in the house and I will make myself available whenever you guys want to do the sitewalk. >> Yeah, Paul, I think um Woody's been pushing us all very very hard all summer
with uh we haven't missed a meeting. We've had workshops, lots of sitewalks. So, um I'm sure we can get it done. >> Yeah. >> Yep. So, Kristen, you'll you'll be in contact with them. So, >> yes. So, usually it's sometime between 8
and 4 on a work day >> just to help Paul if that if that works. We we tend to not go into the weekends. >> Thank you, buddy. >> All right. >> Great. >> So, we'll put this project on on either
our next agenda or the one after depending on how things all the information comes in and when we have a sitewalk. So, thank you, Mike, and thank you, Paul. >> Um, we'll see you soon. >> Okay. Thank you.
>> Thanks. >> All right. Uh, next item on the agenda, Whipple Tree Works, one Marshmallow Lane. Uh, Marshmallow Lane. Damon Jesperson, owner, request to close out the project approved under the site plan
review. Um, Damon, you're here, right? Hi, Damon. >> And Woody, I'm just going to be stepping out here. >> Yep. We'll see you in a minute, people. Um, Damon, would you like to present your closeout materials
as they've been submitted? Um, I believe or I tried to send them all to Kristen. Uh, I may have made a mistake in what I requested from the civil engineer. So, you have pictures.
They went out and um surveyed to make sure everything was in the right location. Um, I don't know what else I You may need a new set of plans with asbuilt stamped on them. So, I'm not entire I've
not done the closeout process, so I'm not sure exactly what you guys need, and I may have done it wrong. Yeah. >> So, >> okay. Thanks, David. And, uh, Kristen, uh, uh, what's the status with Damon? Is he does he need some things? Does he
have everything in? Um, so I've I've forwarded everything to you and the you guys in the packet so we can um we you can if you have questions about what you've received or we can I can put stuff up on the screen tonight if we want. I think the only thing you have
the certified letter from the engineer which is what Damon and I had talked about being required. Um, in addition, it's usually accompanied by a plan that shows as built and the label and identifies um exactly the condition of
the property. Right now, um, in this case, as you all know, this was a slightly different project. There was no construction on the project. Um, the main modifications were related to the parking. Um, and Damon has identified
that as well as the engineers letter. Um just stating uh that there's one area that was proposed to be gravel which is still grass. Um I think that was the only minor change that could show up on
on an asbuilt um on the plan but essentially the plan you have already received shows the condition of the property. Um I will add as you know Damon chime in but um Peter Bennett the building inspector
>> did visit the site and submit a letter to the board as well. Um he inspected for the accessible um handicapped parking spots um as laid out as one of the conditions of the plan um and he was
satisfied with those. Yeah, I mean I think the board if you have questions for Damon now um I think my recommendation would be um if Damon you can ask your uh surveyor to essentially submit a plan that's called
the asbuilt plan that goes with that certifi certification letter >> then I think what you've submitted is in good shape. >> Okay, understood. So that with that said and um does anyone have any qu
additional questions Larry Scott or Steve Mary? >> I have nothing for me. >> I have >> no sir. >> Do we want a sitewalk to do we want to schedule a sidewalk to take a look at um
the completions Damon's plan? There are photos of the only thing that got built, which was the handicap spots. Um, but I'm happy to have you guys out to the barn again. I live real close, so
it's not not much of a problem for me. >> All right. Well, it's up to the board. Are the pictures satisfactory or would you like to >> I just my opinion I I would think the pictures are satisfactory and uh along with Peter Benadette um you
know his visit um and him being satisfied. >> Yeah, I agree with Scott. >> Very good. >> Me too. >> All right, then there's no need to have two sidewalks in one day. We'll just do one unless I mean damn it. Unless you want
to wait >> load them on. >> Unless Damon you want to wait until the leaves change. It is beautiful out there. Um that's a couple months away, but uh I don't think so. >> I would rather not. You're welcome to come back at that point. You can uh we
can do a personal tour for the for the planning board just to see how beautiful it is. And uh you guys can meet some of the farm animals further down on the property. Say hi to the emus and the cows if you'd like. Thanks for the invitation, David.
>> Well, I'll if I could get some of the animals that are showing up in my yard down your W way, I'd be uh I had a bobcat last week. >> Wow. >> That's pretty exciting. >> Albino coyote, too. >> Oh, man.
>> Wow. >> Um very rare, but um lots of foxes. >> We have foxes here, too. It's entertaining to have a Bobcat in this area. >> Um so that leaves us Kristen with um and
Damon basically um you get the ASB bill plan submitted. Uh I don't know what kind of time that will take. So we'll try and get you on the next agenda or the agenda after that. Right Kristen for the final close out that where we're at
here. I understand. >> Yeah. I mean, Damon, you think those changes to the plan can >> I don't think they'll be I think they'll change the labeling since it was built as they wanted it. So,
um you could do the close out conditional on the plan being submitted or we can meet again, whatever is more comfortable for you guys. >> Are we holding any money? Uh
>> no. that. Okay. So, >> I I mean I agree. I think you could you could either vote tonight tonight that as soon as the sort of clerical changes are made to the plan and you know they can be reviewed
at my end. Um, you could take a vote contingent on those changes or we can bring it back in a couple weeks and it'll be a very quick final vote. >> Well, I I'd entertain a motion. Does
anyone have a motion? >> Uh, so just a question. Um, so it is it's so we're it's the only thing um Damon needs to do is resubmit um just a new
plan with u um as built in the block. >> That's what I understand is requested and I I had misunderstood that and I just resubmitted the plans because everyone said it was built the way it was supposed to be built and I didn't ask them to re label it.
Yeah. I mean, if that's um all that we're waiting for, I would say, you know, I would support that. Um, you know, support that motion. Woody. >> Okay. Um I guess the motion would be
um approving the close out on condition of the um Damon or Damon's consultant providing you know the um the proper asbelt plan which would be um the simple editing of
what exists today with as in the block. >> I'd second that. Thank you, Scott. And thank you, Larry. For the second uh roll call vote, Larry, >> yes. >> Scott, >> yes. >> Steve,
>> yes. >> Mary, >> yes. >> And I vote yes as well. All right. Well, thank you for your time, Damon. >> Thank you guys. I know it's been a little bit of a bizarre project and I appreciate all the time and consideration. >> Congratulations. >> Thank you.
>> Thank you. All right, I'm not seeing anything else on the agenda other than um planners report. And welcome back, Pete. >> Um so
we do have a couple site visits. We also need to schedule out at self storage. Um Bill Danchescas, I'm sorry I have not um gotten you guys out there yet. Um, so just quickly while we got you, what do
people's are people around next week being sort of the week before Labor Day? Does anyone have any really bad days or better days? >> What do you What do you want you want us around? I'm not leaving town personally and I'll
make whatever anyone else's however however anyone else's schedules seem to work I'll make make it work. So you guys when you're available I'll be available. >> No, Wednesday of next week is out for me. Any other days?
>> Yeah, Tuesday and Wednesday are out for me next week. Okay. is um is early morning work like 8ish >> on maybe Thursday. >> Sure.
>> Yep. >> Thursday the 28th week from tomorrow. >> Do you want to do both in one visit? Like can you how much time do you got in the morning? Scott, you want to do self
storage at 8 and then come on over here to Bfield at 8:30 and uh yeah, I mean self storage will be quick. I'm I'm I'm assuming I'm in there um enough. Um,
so, uh, yeah, I mean, we could do 8 then 8:30. Um, or 8 for as long as it takes and then just head over. >> Okay. I'll I'll uh I'll work on that with, you know, check with the applicants. Um, that works for me. If
that sounds pretty good to everybody, we'll confirm by email. >> Okay. >> Sounds good to me. So, we'll do self storage and then we'll go over to 15 central if it works out for everyone else the
applicant. All right. We'll look forward to seeing the email Kristen with that. >> Good. Um, >> let's see there. I'm completely still catching up. Um, but thank you again for
everybody, you know, communicating with Satie and helped out while I was away for a few days. Um, just a couple quick things. We, um, we are in the middle of working with the board of Boston Trail Committee to
select a consultant for the trail project for the Biffield and New Breart segment. So, they are currently reviewing the seven proposals that were received and um we're trying to schedule a meeting next week to um evaluate and
and review those. Um so, that's that's great. I really appreciate the your fellow residents who are serving on that committee right now. It's it's a it's actually a really you know these proposals are
you know 60 to 80 pages um and it's it's a good time inensive phase of this project. So um just wanted to share and uh those proposals are available in my office if anyone's interested. Um
the other thing I'd mention is I noted on the select board agenda next week there's an item related to two Plum Island um Boulevard um which is as you all know the property that used to be the um Plum Island Grill
restaurant on the corner on the right as you get on the island. Um those applicants have been before the zoning board with a proposal, but they are meeting with the select board on Tuesday night uh next week to discuss
a part of their project that includes some town-owned land on on that corner. The lot line is very different than the sort of right angles of the road currently. There's a chunk of town land on the corner of that property. So, I haven't seen any
materials submitted to the select board yet, but I just wanted to flag that if anyone's um interested and available. That's on the agenda for next Tuesday. Um >> Kristen, >> I think that's it. >> Yeah, >> Kristen, I'm sorry. Do you know if um
two Plum Island has gone before the zoning board or maybe Larry knows? >> It's pending now, Steve. the it the continued public hearing was scheduled for tomorrow night, but as I said earlier, that's going to be continued. >> Okay.
>> So, many wheels are turning. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Thank you. >> That's comp complicated history to the property and uh uh they've really paired down the request to um now for two town houses. They they started four before the ZBA and I think I'm told that there
was even something uh larger proposed informally prior to that, but they're down to two two town homes now as I understand it. >> Okay. Thank you. >> And it's Yeah, it's also on the agenda
with the cons conservation commission currently. Um, let's see something else. I am uh so Martha and I were meeting with town council on Tuesday morning
next week to have the next discussion about um the zoning amendments. So just so you know the work and discussion we had um at the um when was that meeting? Late July the late July meeting with
bagels and coffee. thanks to Scott. Um, that information, you know, I've I'll be talking more with Martha about it and then we're going to have another meeting and then I think I think Martha and I are hoping that um we can at a future
agenda with you all have Martha attend and more thoroughly discuss um sort of the priority of zoning amendment work that we'll be really diving into before we know it this fall. So, um, thanks again for, you know, the time spent on
those discussions in July and, um, really super excited to have Martha at our at our hand to help with that work for this year as well. >> That's what I got for you tonight, unless there are any other questions
about anything planning related. Everyone's good. I'm good. I don't have any questions. Thank you, Kristen. >> Yeah. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> We're saying we've got some words of wisdom. I will entertain a motion to
adjurnn. >> I'll move to adjourn. >> Thank you, Larry. Do I have a second? >> Sure thing. >> All right. Thank you, Pete. We have a roll call vote. Pete. Larry >> Scott. >> Yes. >> Yes. Yes.
>> Mary, >> can I help you? >> I I say yes as well. And we'll see you all on a sitewalk. Date to be determined. Hopefully next Thursday, the 28th. >> Have a good night, everyone. >> Thank you.
>> Thanks, buddy. Thank you.