September 3rd, 2025. It's a preliminary matter. This is Woody Knight, chair of the Newbury Planning Board. Permit me to commit that all members and persons participated on the agenda are present and can hear me. Planning board members, when I call your name, please respond the affirmative. Peter Pos. Yes, sir.
Larry Murphy, present. Scott Ker, yes. Steve Manian. Yes. And uh Kristen Grubs, planning director. Yes. And Satie Woodward. Yes. Hi Satie.
All right. Very good. Um good evening. September 3rd, 2025 open meeting of the new planning board is being conducted remotely consistent with the chapter 2 of the acts of 2025 which extends the governor's March 12th,
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All right, we'll turn to the first item on the agenda. Um, planning board meeting minutes for August 20th, 2025. Has everyone had a chance to uh read the meeting minutes? Do we have any um corrections or comments?
Hearing none, I'd entertain a motion to accept the meeting minutes for August 20th, 2025. So moved. Do I have a second? Thank you, Scott. Second. Thank you, Larry. Um roll call vote.
Peter, yes, sir. Larry, yes. Scott, yes. Steve. Yes. And I vote yes as well. It concludes uh meeting minutes. Um
then we have a next item on the agenda, new business. Um designation of authorized signatures, primary signatory and alternate for ANR
plans and invoices and payroll. Um we we do this every year. Um, usually it's the chair and vice chair. Correct. Correct me if I'm wrong, Kristen. Uh, is the vice chair as well? Yep. All right. So, if uh that's all right
with everyone, we'll I'd entertain a um motion to keep it as it is. Uh you have it. Yeah. Thank you, Larry. Second. You got it. Thank you. Uh that was Pete.
Yes. Yep. Very good. Uh, roll call vote. Peter, yes. Larry, yes. Um, Scott, yes. And Steve, yes. And I vote yes as well. That takes care of that.
I have 707. So, we have a few minutes before our first public hearing. [Music] Uh we could jump to uh liaison meeting reports if that's all right with everyone.
Sure. All right. Um we'll start with ZBA. Uh Larry. Uh yeah, the ZBA is meeting um next Monday night, the 8th. That's not their usual um uh meeting night, but they have some scheduling issues. And as far as I
know, the I haven't seen the agenda yet, but uh the only item is the uh two Plum Island Boulevard project that we've previously spoken about. That's the former Plum Island Grill property. And uh that's all I have.
Okay. Um next is Conservation Commission. Uh they met last night. Uh fairly lengthy agenda. Um the only things I recall on the agenda
were uh what Larry just spoke of two two um I forget the address sunset I believe uh for mile island boulevard the old former uh for mile girl they've I know that there was a discussion had that
they've thrown the project down quite a bit from whatever it was originally put in as and it's before ZBA and it most likely we will not see it. So as a on the planning board level and then uh we had a discussion which we'll touch on
later with um 34 central. So next I have uh MVPC everything else I don't think anything else pertain planning. Um next is MVPC Kristen. Um do you have
you guys had a meeting? Um, no. The commissioners, uh, MVPC commissioners will be meeting on the 18th and then the, um, regional planners group meets the following Thursday. So, we've had
the summer off for those two groups and both meetings are coming up. Um, I will, since we got a couple minutes, can I add a couple things, Woody? Go right ahead. Yep. Um, we did Satie
and Martha Taylor and I had a meeting with Ian Burns, who um, most of you recall is the um, housing and community economic planner planning program director at Marramac Valley Planning Commission. Um,
let's see last week about I think it was last Wednesday, so a week ago. Um and you all may recall that they had received some grant funding for technical assistance um on housing projects um h zoning related to housing
and other kinds of um affordable housing initiatives and we are still in quue to receive time from Ian and from the housing team at MVPC. So, what we were talking about with Ian was um working on
something that I know that this town and the board has been interested in for many years, which is inclusionary zoning. Um we talked about this a little bit in July. Um, but I think at our meeting in July, I had not remembered
that we actually um have Ian with us to really dive into working on a zoning amendment that focuses on inclusionary zoning, which um, as you all know, but if others are listening, is a way to uh,
do development that encourages, incentivizes, andor requires um, developers to include include units that are uh technically affordable and are um units that count on the subsidized housing inventory for the town of
Newbury. So, it's something I know this board has encouraged with developers, but we haven't actually had a section of our zoning bylaw that um sort of lays out how that process would work um for the board to work with developers to encourage
technically affordable units as part of development. Um we do have that in our multif family zoning bylaw as you all know that the um MBTA zoning that was passed last year that we have you know our project our hearing coming up that
has 10% affordable um units required as part of it but um anyway so Ian would like to come to a planning board meeting coming up so um you know Woody I'd love to talk with you about that and the
board and see if there's a good agenda where we could devote a little time to um talking with him a little more about, you know, more about what inclusionary zoning is and how it might work for Newbury. Um there's no obligation with this technical assistance to bring a
zoning amendment to our next town meeting, but if we can work with him this fall and, you know, sort of benefit from his sort of devoted time on that, I I do think it's something that uh at the
staff level anyway, we think would be worthwhile. Um and we'd love to, you know, have that conversation with all of you um at an upcoming meeting. Yes. So, that's a little bit of an MVPC update.
Okay, great. Um, we still have about two minutes here. Um, did you want to maybe start a plans report or do we want to just hang tight for a sec? Um,
let's see. I Sadie and I were gonna kind of split our report. Um, okay. So, we can wait. I guess why don't we wait and then she and I can coordinate who's gonna update you on which which piece coming up.
Sounds good. Oh, I will say one more thing um about the conservation commission meeting last night which is I think of interest to the board and others. um the Seagate
development 105 High Road which is a open space residential subdivision. Um you all recall that protecting the back part of the parcel with a permanent conservation restriction was a part of that um planning board decision. I'm
happy to report that that conservation restriction has been approved by the state and last night was signed by the conservation commission. Um so that deed is in the process of everybody getting
signed and it will be recorded and that um portion of the back property at 105 High Road will be permanently protected and that is open space that's open to the public. It has a really nice trail with boardwalks. um really lovely small
parcel of land but important um open space that was protected as part of that planning board decision. So, I just wanted to share that that has actually um been signed and finalized. It's taken a while to get through the state and all of the entities involved in that
project, but super exciting. Yes. Thank you, Kristen. I forgot to mention that. It was an accomplishment there. Thank you. Um I have 7:15. I have 7:15 now. So we'll start our first public hearing.
Um public hearing continuence with 2-8 Old Point Road, level two site plan review. Um the applicant has requested a continuence of the public hearing to September 17th, 2025.
Um, so I'd entertain a motion to continue the 2-8 Old Point Road public hearing to September 17th at 7:15 via Zoom. So move in a second.
All right. Thank you, Larry. Thank you, Pete. Uh, roll call vote. Pete, yes. Larry, yes. Scott, yes. Steve. Steve's on mute, but I think he said yes. And I vote yes as well.
Very good. Yes. Um Yep. Thank you, Steve. Yep. All right. On to our next item on the agenda. Next public hearing is um 434 Central Street, level two site plan
review. application for Newbury Port Heights, excuse me, for Newbury Heights, a 44 unit multif family development in the Newbury zoning bylaws section 97-4g MBTA Communities Multif Family Overlay
District at 34 Central Street. Assesses map R19-0-9 bonus Melody and Robert Pritchard. Applicant Massachusetts Housing Housing Opportunities Corporation LLC. I'd like to welcome applicants Mike
Graves and Jerry Welch, attorney Mike Growski, and Christian Smith, engineer associate. And I'd also like to welcome um town
council attorney Jay Tolerman. I believe we have everyone here. And thank you. Um so I'll ask uh the applicants um to update the board on their application, please. Good evening, Mr. Chairman. Mark Babrowski for the applicant. My office
is in conquered, Massachusetts. Um, as you'll as you know, last night u the applicants were at the conservation commission and uh we've taken to heart the suggestion of the planning board at the last meeting that we had with you
and we're proposing to submit an application or a modified application to the conservation commission to seek permission to cross the wetlands for the access road that the planning board favors uh at this time. So, um, I have
had conversations with attorney Talerman this past week about how we would do that with a condition. I'll I'll try to summarize it as simply as possible. There is a detailed draft of a condition that we can share. But the bottom line is that
uh if and when the board approves the site plan for the project, we would commit to filing an application or a modified application with the conservation commission seeking so-called option B. Option B is the wetlands crossing. Option A is the
current configuration of the project on the plans of record. And if the conservation commission approves option B, uh, Mhawk will will do it. They will build it. Um, if M if the conservation
commission rejects option B or subsequently D rejects option B, then we would revert to option A, which is the U access road as shown on the current plans of record. And there's a a good
faith in uh other provisions that have been added by town council that we do not find objectionable. The condition as drafted is something that we can uh embrace and and we're perfectly happy to do it. So I think you know a good
results sometimes come about with a little bit of grease on the wheel and that's I think what we've accomplished here. um if there's any questions, I'd be happy to answer them. And I know town council um may want to chime in here as
well. Okay. Uh thank you, Mark. Um do any of the board members have any questions so far? So, please speak up. Um, I'm just I guess interested in
if the conservation commission approves and D sometimes rejects but more than likely would appeal um the town decision and then
it would get uh it would go to the next level. So is this so if does the condition work whether it's a rejection or an appeal by the state? Mark,
I don't think that it would be an appeal by DP. They I think they have plenary power to reject a local conservation commission decision if they don't think it's consistent with the state regulations.
So I don't D wouldn't appeal the town. That's my understanding. Uh perhaps Jay has more experience with this than I do. But I did consult since the last meeting with Chip Nland who I consider to be the dean of wetlands attorneys in the Commonwealth and he that's the way he
pointed me. Um if I may, Mr. uh chairman and Scott. Um first of all, I think it's really if the conservation commission earnestly goes through its analysis and determines
that option B meets the requirements for the unique posture that this is in as a what we call a limited project where they have to do alternatives analysis. I I'd find it very unlikely that D would insert themselves into that. The DP does
reserve the right to comment on applications. They get notice of of them. I doubt it's possible that they would. I can't see them countermanding or trying to overrule or take regulatory
action against a well-reasoned decision by the Conservation Commission. It it's possible, but I I see it as unlikely. Regardless, I think that that's down the road. the the condition that I've been kind of working with Mark on subject of
course to the planning board's review does contemplate that if D upsets the apple cart with respect to this and uh puts in something that operates to frustrate option B then that too would
cause uh a reversion back to just option A rather than getting involved in a multi-tiered um uh appellet posture with D itself. I think that was the intent of Mark's original draft and I didn't really have
an issue with that. You know, again, subject to the what the planning board may think. I I just think that going through the process with the conservation commission, whatever they come up with, it's a careful conservation commission and they're quite thoughtful that if they come up with a reasonable decision,
it's likely to be um the decision without too much interference by the state. I just don't see the state as getting involved in this. Okay. Thank you, Mark. And thank you, Jay.
Woody, if I can. Yes, go right ahead. Anyone else chime in after? Thanks, Woody. Um, Mark, thanks very much for uh taking the step of uh uh option B. And I was hopeful uh that the your traffic consultant would be able to
come through with some preliminary kind of uh numbers in line of sight if in fact option B was elected because I think that information would be helpful for people uh to to understand the importance of where we're coming from. uh has that uh exercise been uh performed?
I'm going to defer uh if I might to uh Christian on this because he has been working on this issue. Okay. Yeah. Uh thank you uh Mark and and Peter to your question. I have not seen anything specific to and and what I
assume we're talking about is the site distance of the intersection of the relocation of Central Court. Is that what you're talking about? Right. Yeah. Kind of as part of the exercise because that would be helpful information. You know, if it if we, you know, we demonstrate that there's a significant improvement in the line of
sight, I think that's helpful uh in this discussion process as we proceed with option A, option B. So, yeah, I would I would uh I would welcome that information. Yeah, I don't disagree. Um, and all all I can tell you definitively is that I spoke with uh Vaness Associates today uh
and did not they did not bring that up or mention anything of it. Uh I I have to assume that that it is of a a safe sight distance or they you know would not have endorsed the uh the relocated entrance design that that we had
proposed to them. Um, you know, that that said, I don't have anything definitive on exactly what those numbers are at this time. Mr. POS, that'd be helpful to help have. Thanks very much, Christian. You're welcome. Mr. Chairman, would it be helpful if I shared screen and put the condition up
just so that everybody understands what we're talking about? Um, sure. Sure. I'm I'm blocked right now. So, right. Um, so unfortunately, for some reason, and
I'm trying to communicate with our Newberry TV hosting to allow an additional co-host, but at the moment, I think I'm the only one who can share screen. So, um, it's still disabled on my end. So,
yeah, if we get if we get word that it's cleared up, I'll be happy to do that. I think Kristen, you may have the condition I fored. you probably have to find it buried in the in the emails. But um so the the Mark
drafted a condition um I did tentatively kind of revised it and sent it back to Mark, sent it to Kristen um for review. Obviously all subject to the planning board's review, but that's kind of where we are right now.
Okay. So, I'm not uh I will share what I'm finding. I There's a chance it's not the most up to date. Uh I can send it to you right now, Kristen. Okay. Why don't you do that just so we're not I just have to find
while while we wait for the electronic things to go back and forth. Um do we have any other new Yeah. um updates on this project and then we'll come back to the condition if that's all right. Um, again, I'll defer to Chris Christian on this. So, yep. And I'm happy to go through those,
Mr. Chairman. Uh, Kristen, it appears that I can share screen, so I'm going to attempt to do that. Oh, at least my share button is green, which usually means go. So, let me give this a shot. Oh, nope. Host disabled. Never mind.
Okay, I will I will just walk through it. Uh so in the uh time since we met last uh we have done additional test pits um at the request of your thirdparty engineering reviewer uh Joe
Satka and we have gotten three uh additional passing pits as well as two additional passing perk tests uh within the reserve area uh as was requested and um in addition to that uh a secondary
uh level of evergreen planting row has been placed closer to uh building five uh for the uh the butters uh that are to the west there, excuse me, to the east there. And
um those based on on where she's located those on the landscape plan and we depict them on the site plan, they're probably 6 plus feet above the elevation of the ones that were originally proposed to be planted. So, it truly
will provide a a secondary level and a higher uh screen for for those abutters uh that may have uh been impacted by the uh you know the the nec necess necessary trees, excuse me, that had to be taken
down to access the uh the test bit locations for the reserve area. Um, in addition to that, as as you might all imagine, um, obviously Norse Environmental did file the NOI, um, with both the Conservation Commission and,
uh, Massachusetts D. Uh, so that is underway as you all know. I won't reiterate much of that. Um, we did add to the plans the potential connection, which would be, as far as I'm aware, and in very, very brief conversation uh with
the fire department about that, uh, a 20 foot wide aisle uh, which would lead out to Central Court, um, through the wetland area. And uh you know obviously we've created the plan which you may have gotten before we met last time uh
that does depict the reconfiguration uh creating a a virtually perpendicular intersection of central court with center central street. Um, we've updated. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry to interrupt,
but would you like me to share the site plan, which I uh Yeah. Do you have the color presentation plan in front of you? Um, no. I have the most recent set of site plans submitted last Wednesday. That that's that's fine. I can I can
skim through those or we can skim through those together if you're willing to scroll with me. Yes. Thank you. It would be helpful for the visual. Yep. So, can you see that yet? Yes, we can see it. Or at least I can
see it. Yep. So, if we if we scroll down through to the site plans though, we're still on existing conditions. So, we can go down to I think it's page five,
the site plan start. Yes. Yeah. And that's actually a good Oh, no. That's that's the uh our demolition plan. There we go. That's actually a good plan to start with because on this while it's not showing up very clearly, you you can see the red lines which
would be the edge of pavement for the uh straightening of uh or straightening of the intersection of Central Court. Um and I think we'll have to go a bit further down now to now and bear in mind uh ladies and gentlemen we have not yet
reduced the entry road width. Uh that is still depicted at the standard 24 ft. Obviously that would be reduced by 2 feet either side uh should that become a one-way entrance. Um, and then I think Kristen, we can scroll down another
sheet or possibly two. That's our that that one actually depicts our our site triangle from Vanesse uh shaded there uh with with the clearing limits that would need uh be needed. Um,
and that's really all that's of very much interest there. I think we will get the trees either at the bottom of the sheet or on the on the next one. Yep. The the trees in the rear of the property. Yeah, you can see there there has been a
secondary uh row put in there. That was another uh fairly significant change. Um, and again, as I mentioned, those those root balls are going to be roughly 6 to 7 ft higher in elevation up that hill uh than where the lower ones are.
And I think we can keep going from that point down. Can I ask uh just a question on the just Yeah, it says um proposed 6 to 8 foot
height spruce trees 20 foot on center. Can you define this the the 20 foot on center? Uh yes, that is the center point of the root ball or the trunk of the tree to the next tree
to the next tree. But they are staggered. So the trees won't from from a view directly from the folks behind us. Uh they will not be 20 feet apart if initially planted because
of the staggering of those. Visually those will be closer than 20 ft. It's it's from the angled spot to the next or the angled distance from one tree to the next in one of those given rows. But the
staggering allows them to to not be that separated in a horizontal view, if you will. Is that making sense, Mr. Kitner? Ker, excuse me. Um, yeah, Ker, thanks. Um, no, it it it
does make sense. 20 ft or 20 foot on center is um in my opinion fairly significant. Um, you know, between Appreciate the staggering. I can only tell you that I I would think that it
would be um quite a few years before you get um some growth to the point where it just fills in um that it would be um you know really
um quality screening. Just my opinion. Yep. I mean I can have that conversation with our landscape architect for certain. Um, you know, I think the idea is she's she's intending to and I believe in order to to for those to come in in a healthy stand there there has
got to be a, you know, certain separation between the trunks as at the time of planting uh so that they don't essentially choke each other out as as they do grow. Um, I'm sensitive to that too, but uh just a comment. Thank you.
Yeah, absolutely. All right. And uh before we move on, Christian, does any other board members have any questions or comments on the screening? Yeah, what do you I do if if I could. Go ahead. And Christian, you know, I think you've heard from me from the onset of this
project. There were two areas that I was concerned with traffic and then the screening in the back. So if uh can we just go back to where you were um on Yes. Yeah. I I just wanted to make sure that um just to sorry Pete to interrupt but just to know that there there's new
screening on this front side. Okay, beautiful. Um so Christian, I think I' I've expressed I always had concerns with you know uh buildings five and what's going to happen. Now I just want to understand the topography because I know we asked for a topographical imagery of what this would
look like and what we received wasn't really kind of what I was hoping to see. Um, if I remember correctly, uh, the adjacent properties are at about elevation, the existing butter is at about elevation 64. Is that right?
Uh, very probably. Uh, Kristen, if you could scroll down, I think one more sheet. Uh, no, it's going to be two more sheets. And oh, excuse me. Something I'm sorry. I'm sure this is frustrating.
Christian, not a problem for you. Tell me where to get. I I think that's that's a good place. I just want to I need to uh scan in a little bit to see what these elevations are.
Yeah. And actually, Mr. POS the um as you move away from Central Court along the back sides of those properties uh the properties themselves as well as obviously our property are increasing in
elevation. I think the lowest side I believe you're you're going to be very close with your um your question of 64 ft. Right. Okay. So there so the existing homes are at at 64 and the found the uh
slabs are going to be starting at 702 or 75 uh garage 7 well the finished floor yeah the the garages are are roughly 765 75 okay
and the uh the finished floors on those would be at 77. Okay. So, I'll continue to thread the needle. And these buildings are going to be twotory buildings. I believe building five are are scheduled to be two stories. Okay. So, what would the roof height be
or the deck height be for those? Uh the deck height would would probably be right at the 77 on the back. And my suspicion is the roof height on those would be, you know, roughly 10 feet above that. So, 87.
Okay. And so, there'll be no decks off the second floor. Uh not not that I am aware of. That is not what the architect has proposed. Well, I mean uh sorry to interrupt, but if the deck height is um at 77,
you've got a second floor on top of that, right? Correct. Okay. So that blockouts. Yep. Right. So that would be potentially 87. Yeah, I think that's what I said. The the roof peak. No,
I think Pete was asking Well, maybe I'm wrong, Pete, but you were looking for really the roof height, the median um of the roof height, or even the ridge, right? Yeah. No, I was actually uh curious as to the well, the the roof height, yes, but where the second floor height would be. But what I've just heard from
Christian, if I understood correctly, there'll be no deck off the second floor. It'll only be a walkout deck at 70 77. Right now, these are walkouts. So, the the finished basement slab on these are
likely going to be 8 and 1/2 ft lower than the uh finished floor. Perfect. Okay, I got it. So when we did our last sitewalk, we had some conversation about the possibility of burming to create uh you know an
additional um level of uh visual protection. Do you remember that conversation? I do. Okay. Now, if we if we continue to thread that needle and we have that burm in place and if we were to put plantings actually on the top of that burm, um
wouldn't you would it create a larger visual barrier of the structures themselves from the adjacent abutters? I mean, I I have to suspect that's correct, Mr. Pos, in the immediate term. Absolutely.
Yeah. So, so where I'm going with this, Christian, is uh I would welcome visualization of what this would look at like uh from a a uh uh
uh a top a topographical um Scott, help me out with the terminology I'm looking for for I think you're looking for a topographical section from the neighbors. Yes. section so that we could see what
the appearance is going to be like of these structures in comparison to the house with a burm in place and then vegetation on top of the burm to create a very nice visual buffer because I think Scott's right those trees are going to take a number of years to fill
in. Uh and uh my concern is to try to recreate as quickly as possible a visual barrier for the already existing homeowners. We will absolutely take a look at that. Okay. Thanks very much. Yep. And what I'll have to do, Mr. POS,
just so we're, you know, all on the same page, I'll have to get with number one, the the landscape architect because I think we want to incorporate this burm into what's already going to be proposed to be cleared as opposed to take down more native vegetation to create it.
Absolutely. Are you in agreement with that? Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Less disturbance. So, we'll have to work with the landscape architect and then get that finished product to the uh to the architect so they can do their their sections. And just so I'm very clear on
this, are are you looking for Well, okay. If we're doing cross-sections, that's that's relatively close to what they gave us. Uh, I'm not sure how well they'll be able to depict the visual from somebody standing in
those backyards, but if if that's what you're you're looking for, I can I can certainly see what they're able to do with their, you know, 3D rendering software, right? So, there isn't a, you know, a shock and awe when this thing comes to fruition. I'd really like to have a good appreciation of what it's going to look
like before we get there, just so we can uh have a good handle on that. So, thank you very much, Christian. You're very, Christian. Maybe I maybe I could help. Um it would be, you know, really a section from um the elevation of first floor deck.
Yeah. The hill um really to the uh neighbors um that sit in the back that grade. Um and then with you know a burm appropriately placed um with the 6 to 8t
um you know plantings that uh I proposed um I I think that's very doable um and it would be very much appreciated and um appreciate all the uh the effort here. Yes, absolutely.
Thank you. Okay. Thank you Pete. Thank you Scott. Um, is there anyone else real quick on landscaping before I let Christian continue? Mr. Chairman, can I just uh put a a a final point on this? Sure. Go right ahead. Mark,
I I I think we're in agreement that um if a BM is something that the board wants, we're willing to do it. I think um depending upon what happens uh with the rest of the project and progress made towards closing the public hearing,
we would accept a condition that there is a going to be a burm installed between 3 and 7 ft in height with the final determination to be made by the planning board uh after we prepare a visual and they uh make that determination. But we don't we don't
want to slow things down while we try to draw pictures. We can we can accept that as a condition. Okay. Understandable. That's that's very good, Mark. Thank you. Thank you. And I did email um a blown up copy to
you, Kristen. Did you get of the uh condition? Did you get it? I did. Yeah. I didn't I wasn't sure if um Christian, do you have anything else with the site plan you want to uh those were the major changes to the site plan? uh finalizing the reserve
area design. Um we actually went as far as to you know not not uh vertically but horizontally design the reserve area leech fields. Um we have not seen uh an
additional uh memo from from Joe at this point. Uh, but I think we're very close um with his review and and I will leave it at that because I'm not going to obviously uh guess of what might come in
the next review. Okay. And um before we switch plan sets here, there was a screening on the front along Central Street. You just want to touch on that real quick? Oh, I uh yeah, two pages back.
Uh maybe I'm sorry three pages back. You're going the right direction. Okay. Y one more. Sorry for the inconvenience of this. Oh no, no problem at all. Um and this is uh yeah that is in the location uh Mr. Chairman where some initial test pitting
was done last November obviously requiring some tree removal. uh the property to our south there is actually um 36 uh Central Street and uh the um the landscape architect proposed the the
tree row that you see there um in response to that it's much less sloping. Um, I think the the board members that took the uh the initial sitewalk with us saw that uh there's there's not nearly as much
elevation differential between buildings seven and eight and uh those of Butters as there are on the other side. I do recall um earlier this summer a written request when this conversation
was happening about the visuals on the back on the Parker River Drive side. There was a written request from the abutters on the front here for a similar rendering of the topography. um if
that's possible when you're talking with your architect. I think yes and I think I think the um the architects did include that in their cross-sections but you know as as you all saw it is simply just a a
cross-section of a single line running east west essentially on the property and then another one running uh north south. Hey uh Chris Kristen while we're here on this image is right have we defined uh the property boundaries of 36
just so if if option one has to occur just so that's well defined do we actually know uh because I you know I was there over the weekend and I saw a a granite marker which I think is the property line for your for the applicant's property but do we know the
property boundaries uh has 36 36 been surveyed? Uh 36 has been surveyed by our surveyors only where it abuts our property. So basically three or two and a half lines
of it. Um they also found the markers on the right ofway uh the the exit Essex County um markers and the front uh property line on that through the uh fire department building
uh were all taken from record Essex County uh street layout plans. So I because there's there's confusion when I look at different uh descriptors of what the property boundary is and I don't know if it'd be helpful to actually know what that is if we have to
go with option one. Yeah. Well, I think I think the the corner uh to the north that abuts us on the right ofway. Yep. Right there, Kristen. Uh I believe that is actually a granite marker. And then if you look to
the south side, I believe it is the terminus of a stone wall. Uh nope. Uh there you go. Yep. Up at up at the rightway. It's either the terminus or very close to to the end of that stone wall that separates uh those
two properties. So uh Kristen, you do have a picture of that. What that mocker is, right? A picture. No, picture. You said Kristen, correct? Kristen. Yes. Yeah.
Oh, I'm I'm sorry, Mr. Sorry. I'm sorry. I wasn't sure either. Okay. Um uh we have a a photograph of that area. There's also, as Pete's saying, there's a candy cane septic vent, which I had a
conversation with the health agent and she explained it's actually the septic for um the fire station which runs along the right of way of Central Street. Um, I did have this conversation with
Christian about the county layout for Central Street and um have also, you know, reached out to our DPW director just so we are clear on where the town's public right of way is relative to the
private property for for that frontage. So, I I do appreciate that that is important to have that information accurately, right? I think you know currently as this line shows um I believe this shaded triangle
is the area that potentially needs to be you know modified vegetation to assist with better sight lines. Um so that currently doesn't show any impact on the private property but again just assuring
that we know where these property boundaries are on the ground is an important step. Um I agree with you on that Pete. Okay good. Um are you good for a minute Pete? I am. Thanks so much Woody.
Yep. No, just just checking. All right, so we've covered the front landscaping. Um uh if you'd like to move on, Christian, please do. Uh yeah, I I think that largely uh completes my presentation of uh of new information. Um the only other thing of
real note is that the uh the project developers uh were able to meet uh when we were out doing test pits with Mr. Sir Watka with the uh the tree warden. Um and and he didn't see any problems with, you know,
anything that uh that might have to be taken down there. I believe there was only one real significant tree and the tree warden's feeling on that uh that would have to be removed for the sighteline um expansion
was either diseased or dead or very close to dead. So that we we got no input from him that there were going to be any issues with what needed to be taken within the right of way. And it certainly appears that the bulk
of the rest of it, if not all of the rest of it, uh would have to be moved removed from the Pritchard property itself as opposed to the right of way. Okay. Very good. Um, and the only other thing that I recall
from last meeting was the the name. You you're still working on the changing the name to from Newbury to Bfield. Correct. Okay. Very good. So, we'll see that in the near future. Yeah. We we had a pretty short window, Mr. Chairman, between the time we uh
finished up our test pits and the time we had to submit the revised plan. So, Yep. No, understandable. It was it was just a time constraint. Yep. Very well. Very good. Um, any other questions from board members, Larry or Steve?
I don't have anything. Okay. Just just for the record, Mr. Chairman, can I uh remind the board that there is one other condition that we discussed maybe at two meetings ago regarding the reconfiguration of the uh intersection.
And I we uh are also willing to do that. And Christian showed you the new layout uh on the plan sheet just a second ago. Uh we would like however there to be a condition that uh the select board take
action to allow us to enter into the right of way to do the work within u I had suggested 90 days. I did speak with attorney about it. I think we can easily come up with a number, but that's the essence of the condition.
We we don't want to be waiting at meeting after meeting after meeting to get permission to go in and do the work. We'd uh we' we'd like to see that expeditiously. All right. Whatever whatever that means to the, you know, to the process. Yes. Very good. That's understandable.
And uh the clearing up that intersection to Central Street is important. So, thank you. All right. So, if I have no other questions from board members, please speak up if if you do. And if Jay has nothing else, um we'll move on to see if
there's any raised hands for public comment. Do you I'm sorry, Woody. Shall I just share that one condition before we um Sure. Do you want Sorry, I forgot. Yes, you have it available now. Email.
Okay, great. This was originally in an email to me from Attorney Terman. I I just took it out of the email and blew it up so we didn't strain our eyes. Yep. Yep. Any any comments on the condition?
Just just one. It refers to uh where is it? Um shows a wetlands crossing for an access road into the project. Um Oh, yep. I mean that that's intended to be a an
egress, correct? We're on the same that that is correct, Mr. Murphy. And and frankly, I think option B is also tied into into the re uh um the changes to the central court intersection. I don't know if option B
would work without that. Well, regardless of option A or B, central Klet, it's going to be reconfigured to be squared up to Central Street. Correct. Right. Right. But I think they go hand in glove. Option B and the reconfiguration of Central Street,
Central Court, excuse me. But I, you know, perhaps have to defer to the traffic people on that. I think the reconfiguration of Central Street is a separate condition though, right? Because it's tying in the select board is if I I
understand they're related in some respects, but I think we would address that different in a separate um condition. J J just for clarification you're you're saying this regarding
squaring up central court to central street was going to happen whether it's option A or option B correct that was my understanding because I think they proposed it under option A anyway before the board asked them to consider the option B. My my
understanding is that they would that they would be happy to do the reconfiguration so long as the select board approves it. I know the select board hasn't weighed in too much yet based on some correspondence I saw, but I think that's on the table regardless. That's my understanding.
That that's our understanding as well. Thank you, Jay. Yeah, that that is correct. And and uh Attorney Talon, um I'm sorry, actually it was it was not you. I think it was Mr. Murphy who made the comment but um I just wanted to point out that um that
that reorganization of central court intersection really doesn't affect the option B because where the option B would tie in is beyond any change to the central court uh travel way
to I get that it's just it's just such a as it's currently configured such an awkward intersection adding traffic to it is Oh, I understand what you're saying now, Mr. Murphy. I apologize. I was misunderstanding what you were asking.
I wasn't very clear in my comments. So, very good. Anything else on this for now? All right, we'll go to public comment. Uh, do you have see any raised hands, Kristen? Um, yes, there is. Nino Scary.
Okay. Um, please state your name and address for the record and your question or comment, please. Yes, it's Nino Scaderi at 3 Central Court. Um, so you guys have been talking a lot about buffering from the housing
to the backside behind building four property is like I mean be behind building five. um my property, my backyard, um would be pretty much right where the leech fields are and what I see is it's like um I don't know what the guidelines are
if it's 10 feet from a property line, but um you know, I know a lot of vegetation can't be put near leech fields. Um, so I was just wondering what was going to be done to buffer us from this project. Um,
response from Christian or your team? Yeah, currently there are no plantings proposed. uh there there is very little vegetation there now in that location where those uh where those leech fields are
proposed. Um you know, but I could I could work with the landscape architect and determine if anything would be wise to to plant there. I mean, as I think most of you know, you don't want to plant trees right next to a a leech
field because the roots are going to uh you know, completely grow in that direction with um or that would be the expectation and and you know, historic. I can I can discuss that with our landscape architects certainly and find out if um if anything would be suitable
uh to plant in that area. Okay, that would be great. Um y Any any other comments or questions, sir? No, that's it at the moment. All right. Well, thank you. Thank you. And um
that'll that'll be addressed by the applicant. Um any other raised hands, Kristen? No, I don't see any at the moment. Yeah. Do we have any written public comments? Any new written public comments, Kristen?
Um, the board did receive a letter from U. Jacob Murray at 15 Parker River Drive. Um it was shared with the board um and is posted on the website. Um I did share that with the applicants as
well as um uh the peerreview engineer Joe Swaka. Um, so I know that Christian and team provided some responses um the to some of the questions raised and I
expect if the planning board's interested, it'll be important to get um our peer review responses to all those questions in addition to um his comments on this version of the site plan.
So, we are still waiting uh the the most updated review by um our peer review engineer who also um oversaw the uh uh test pits and the septic design work. All right. So, those will be
Mr. Chairman, can I comment on that? Yes. Go right ahead, Mark. Thank you. Um I don't know if you've had a chance to look at the letter. It's very comprehensive. Most of what is addressed in the letter is storm water. Uh there's a series of
six or seven points on the D storm water management regulations. And then there's lesser concerns at least in terms of the number of words used and they seem to be really about title five. Um the storm
water bylaw that you've adopted puts the jurisdiction in the hands of the conservation commission and obviously uh title 5 is a board of health matter. So I reviewed the site plan regulations, the MBTA bylaw and um
the only thing I was unable to find is site plan I'm sorry storm water regulations. your website seems to suggest that they were being drafted and it didn't I I couldn't figure out whether you'd finished the job yet or not. Um but we
think that those are matters that were raised in the letter that really uh the planning board has peripheral interests in that but the other boards have jurisdiction. So I I I I know Mr. Mr. Watka also serves in as an adviser to uh the board
of health and I believe uh he has played a role with the conservation commission. Um if he's if he's going to respond to the letter, I think you know it's really a matter for the other two boards to figure out what to do. Okay. Thank you, Mark.
Are there any other departmental comments? Preston. Um, no, I have not received any. Okay. Um, planning board members, do you have any other any other questions or comments at this time?
Hearing none. Um, Jay, do Tolman, do you have any questions or comments? No. Um, it seems like we're we're getting close. Um, obviously the the next step that you may want to take is
whether or not you need some additional information. You want to keep the hearing open. Sometimes a board likes to discuss a draft decision during the public hearing. Sometimes an applicant likes it when that happens because they can comment on
specific conditions of approval while they're being chewed on by the board. But that's really um a question of preference for the board. Um it appears that a most of the peer review is done. Obviously there's still some lingering in information in and around the option
B. Some of that can be conditioned we and some of the other things we discussed tonight that could be postpermit conditions. So, um, ultimately, if you feel you have the information you need to deliberate, then you could be at
a point to close the hearing. But if you're uncertain about some uh information or want some additional refinements or want to discuss the decision during the or in the midst of the public hearing itself, then you might want to continue. So, that's up to
you as a board. Okay. What are the board's wishes? Uh, would you like to continue the hearing to the 17th or would you like to close the public hearing up? What do you think? What do you think? Could Yeah. You know, I really do want
to hear uh what that what the option be line of sight data would be so that that's part of our record. So, I would for that reason alone uh continue the hearing until that information is submitted. Okay. Um, was that a motion? Uh, that's a that's an opinion.
Okay. I'd entertain a motion to continue the public hearing to September 17th. Then, uh, Woody, I I have a question, but, uh, do we want to, it's been the long-standing practice of this board to
keep the, um, public hearing open, uh, until the, uh, uh, draft decision is reviewed. Uh, are we ready to start thinking about a draft decision at this point? Yes, I I am. I know we have additional
information coming in. Um, we Yes, we could start reviewing it if it's if it's ready. All right, then. Yeah. Sorry. Are you asking is it ready right now tonight? No, no, no. Do we do we want to request
staff to start preparing a draft decision? Yeah. No. Um, yes, that would be great if we could get that ball rolling so on the 17th we could review that and review the new information that's been
requested this evening. Now, I've already informed um uh Kristen, too, that we're we're happy to work closely with her, either myself or Lisa or both of us, to make sure that some of the more legally significant
conditions um are pretty fine-tuned. Okay, Woody, this is Steve. Uh, it seems to me that given the concerns that Peter's pointed out about the line of sight, it seems a little bit premature. I also
found myself looking at a diagram that came in today uh showing a couple sections. And I don't think they're totally the scale given that the trees are uh in these sections are much taller than the uh
homes. So, in my opinion, we need to see a little bit more before we start drafting conditions. Um, Larry, um, if if they could I guess
I'm at a I'm confused here now. Do we need to have a motion to start drafting a decision, Larry? Uh, I don't think so. I mean, we've done it more or less by consensus in the past, I think. So, it is something that they could start working on and we'll have the
other information come in and Yeah. I I wouldn't anticipate a final decision for the next meeting or anything like that. Yep. But, um, so we'll get to work on start a draft decision and we'll have new information
coming in that has been requested and discussed tonight. And I'd entertain a motion. Mr. Jim, before you do that, can I I I want to be really clear about what information you're expecting so that we don't disappoint you. Can I I I got cut
off there by Zoom. I've just rejoined in time to hear the gentleman say line of sight. Was there anything else that you're expecting us to give you? I think the other thing Mark if I could uh is a really good um section uh
describing the location of the current properties that are in place uh the projected building the height of the building the projected uh burm the height of the vegetation that'll be on the burm. So, if we looked at a cross-section, we could say, okay, this is what it's going to look like, and
this is digestible. Uh, and this is something that we're comfortable with, uh, uh, giving the seal, you know, going forward with. So, those are the two things, you know, the kind of the the back protect, the protection of the buffer that was altered, and then the
other is just concluding what option B, the line of sight numbers would look like so we could have those for discussion. Thank you. Thank you so much. All right. Thank you, Pete. And I I just ask the applicant and staff given, you know, what we've discussed,
is September se is the 17th too aggressive a date? You need more time? I don't It's I I'll defer to Christian, but I don't I hope he says that it's not too aggressive. Yeah. No, I I don't believe so. I I don't believe it's going to be a
herculean endeavor to get uh these uh these things together. Okay. and Kristen and Jay, are you comfortable with the 17th? Uh, yeah. We'll we'll we'll we'll figure it out between myself and and Lisa, but we can certainly work
on on structure with Kristen um during that time. Okay. So, that being said, and thank you everyone, um I'd entertain a motion to continue the public hearing to September 17th
at 7:15 via Zoom. moved. Second. Thank you, Scott. Thank you, Pete. Uh, roll call vote. Pete, yes. Larry, yes. Scott, yes. Yes. Steve, yes.
And I vote yes as well. And thank you everyone. Thank you, Jay. Thank you, Mark. Thank you, Christian. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, members of the board. Have a good evening. Thank you. Good night to all. Have a good night. You too. All right. That concludes our public
hearings for this evening. Um, next item on the agenda. I have uh full business Gadston Lane subdivision request to for final approval of close out and release
of escrow funds for subdivision assesses map R27-0-53A applicant Doug Dades and Fineran and Nicholson PC and Adam TR manager of Gatston Lane LLC. Do we have um
Yeah. here now. I'm just trying to uh start my video. Okay. What is going on here? And this is Adam speaking. Yeah. Can you hear me, guys?
Yes, we can hear you. Yep. All right. It looks like Well, maybe my video is missing, but I can hear you guys. and I'll keep moving along. Yep. Sounds good. We can hear you loud.
Clear. Um would you present the closeout request? Update the board on the We got you now. Oh, there you are. Okay, great. Update the board on the HOA document and
we'll go from there. Sorry. Yep. you've you've got it all figured out now. So, yeah, we basically have got the signed HOA agreement, which is restated
uh per town council and everything's signed and I believe we're at the final point for the board to make a decision to close out Gazdon Lane. Very good. Any questions from board members?
hearing none. Um Kristen, this everything's in order with this. It is. Um yeah, if you recall, we had the final uh peer review of the asbelt plan back in February and March. Um and
we uh you know clarified the tripartite agreement closing out with the bank. Um so that work was done late winter and we're just waiting for this final getting the signatures and getting the HOA. um trust document recorded and it's
all it's all done. Everything's in order. Very good. Yeah. So, with that confirmed and everything in order, um I'd entertain a motion to close out the Gats and Lane
subdivision project and to release any remaining funds in the project's escrow account. So, move. Excellent. Thank you, Larry. Do I have a second? Second.
Thank you, Steve. Uh, roll call vote. Peter, yes. Larry, yes. Scott, yes. Steve, yes. And I vote yes as well. Thank you, Adam. And uh you should be all set.
Thank you. We'll see you in the future. Figure out the rest. Yep. See you. See you again. Bye. there for five zones. All right. Um, next item on the agenda,
uh, 15 Central Street Preliminary Subdivision application for two lot subdivision at 15 Central Street, the census map U1-0-53 Mona Lisb St. Hel applicant, um, Michael Becker. Welcome
Mike. Good evening. Good evening. Would you like to give us I believe I am here myself this evening just without my survey as it's a kind of preliminary plan. Okay, great. Uh would you like to update
the planning board on the site visit and to present uh the propo proposed modifications to the plan, please? Uh sure. I can share screen or Christian if you want to bring it up. Yeah, probably easier for me to Yeah, I think we haven't
we haven't solved the the co-hosting question yet. So, um I'll bring up uh I'll just premise this by saying after our initial site visit, walking around looking at some of the ledge, I know we had to make an adjustment to the
plan based on the location of the telephone pole and some concerns with that. And once we pushed to the right of the pole, it seemed like it was going to be a massive effort to get back to the left of the boulder, the ledge, but not be right on the edge of the neighbor's
property. And I thought it would just be a better all-around project. We stayed further away from the neighbor. So, we redesigned the road to skirt the topography, but still uh keep the existing house compliant. And uh this
actually I think works out better for the driveway on the existing house anyways. It's not not super long. Um I have run this by the fire department and based on the length of the road uh we do not require a hammerhead or a culde-sac
which is going to save rounding about a million square feet of asphalt and impervious which I think is much more in the rural character of the area. Um the house does have to be within the front door of the house does have to be within 50 ft of the end of
the road where you see it says 36 there. Uh based on my discussion uh with the lieutenant um which I don't think will be a problem. Um so I uh he did uh state that he wanted
the 30 foot uh 34t radius at the mouth of the the street where it says Church Street there. Uh so you'll note that the opening is quite wide uh for the maneuvering of the truck and uh that that solution did seem to be uh
acceptable. Uh overall, I think this is a greatly improved plan just based on not having to do nearly as much site work, staying away from the neighbors property, the increased functionality of the new driveway for the existing home uh and uh
where it locates the street uh where the street ends. Very good. You good for a minute, Mike? What's that? That's it for updates for uh that's that's pretty much the rundown. All right. Very good. Uh planning board
members, do you have any questions or comments? I don't hear any questions or comments. Oh, I I Well, just uh you know, let me say first of all, Mike, that the sitewalk was very helpful. Um, and uh I
I I have no um issues with what you're trying to do here. I do have a concern about the uh the status of the existing home and in the maintaining a grandfathered status uh if if you
subdivide this property and I strongly urge you to have a long conversation with the building commissioner on that. Okay. I have reached out to my attorney. I've had similar scenarios uh in other towns and I understand that the lot is
currently conforming. The lot will continue to be conforming. The structure is non-conforming. We're not creating any new nonconformities uh relative to the structure. So in previous cities, I understand if you alter the structure or the conformities
or nonconformities of that, then you open that that door. Uh but where we're only modifying the lot, I I don't believe that we're going to have a problem there. Um waiting for my attorney to get back to me on that, but
uh I will certainly uh pursue that as needed. Yeah, that that would be my suggestion. I mean, I I I mean, I'm I'm fine with what you're trying to do. Okay. Just that would be my suggestion that that you follow up on
that on that zoning issue. We've had cases in the past where you might conclude differently. Okay. Mr. and that uh that's you're good, Larry. Yeah, I'm good. All right. Anyone else have any
questions or comments? No. All right. That'd be hearing none. Um Kristen Sadi, can you update the planning board on departmental comments received? Do we have any?
Yeah. So, we just tonight got um a note from Tom Cusk, who's director of Biffield Water District. Um he uh you know understanding this is a preliminary subdivision he in concept
doesn't have any concerns about supplying water to the site. However it is important Mike as this moves ahead that you schedule a time to meet with the Biffield Water District board which
is a entity outside of the municipality. um that board has to review the project and you know approve providing the water supply. So I I'll I'll share his letter with you Mike tomorrow. It just came in
tonight and you can follow up on on the water. Um Okay. Yeah. There's Were there other comments Satie? There's uh one from Conscom which I you can also send to Mike. Um
he uh conservation agent said um that um it will be required to go through consum to confirm the delineation and confirm that there won't be any disturbance of the wetland areas um and if there is any work proposed in
the resource areas or buffer zones they would request um an NOI submission to the conservation commission. So um but I don't think I don't know if you had planned to do any work in the buffer zones at all.
We do not and uh we are aware that we have to uh confirm those uh wetlands delineation marks. Okay. Amazing. Sounds good.
Then I I think we just heard from the health agent that um you know you haven't brought anything for septic design yet but obviously that'll be important as you move ahead. Um very good. Um, also Kristen or Satie,
uh, can you remind the planning board that an approval or any approval with modifications must be given within 45 days of application submission, which is 91825. Correct. Yep.
So that's that's there. And um if no one else has any questions or comments um I guess I ask the applicant to return at the we put you on the agenda for
planning boards 91725 meeting and uh or provide an extension if you cannot make the 9:17 meeting. Is that correct? 917 works for me. All right. Thank you. I look forward to seeing you then. Thank you.
Yep. Sounds good. We'll see you then. Thank you, Mike. Yep. Have a good night. Yep. You too. All right, moving on. Um, we have self uh, excuse me, Stowway Storage LLC, DBA, Newbury self storage
site plan turnpike 23 sled road assesses map R 360- 23 William D. Francesco Mona
um Eric Bman Millennium Engineering request to close out the site plan including review and approval of asbuilt plan and other conditions. So uh we have Bill with us. I don't think we have him on but um I
know some of you were able to speak with him during the site visit. So Okay. Yep. We weren't on the site visit. Does the board have any questions on this after following that site visit we were on? Any questions at all or
comments? Hearing none. Um, is there any other outstanding items in the city that you know that we need to address? So, um, yeah, we, as you, as we always
do, sent the ASPEL plan out for peer review and Joe Saka attended the sitewalk. Um, and we just had a couple, uh, real housekeeping edits to the asbill plan to update the
address um, and make sure it's clear that this property is referred to both as 23 Sled Road and 131 New Breport Turnpike. So those minor edits were updated on the asbel plan. Um and Joe Surwaka reviewed it and and signed off.
So I think everything's in good shape to close out. Um we're not we'll have to come back to ask for the vote to uh return the remaining escrow funds to bill because we haven't paid our last um
peer review invoice yet. So that'll come at a future meeting. But um I think things are in good shape to approve the close out. Okay, great. That was my next question because uh escrow isn't um in this current motion. So uh if there's no
other questions or comments from uh board members of staff, I'd entertain a motion. Well, um just one question. What do you Sure. I know on the sidewalk we talked about, you know, the rear gate and um
you know access from the um the road the dumps on is that um Boston Road. What? Yep, Boston Road. Yeah, Boston Road. Um so what is um I'm just not quite sure
two things. Is it in our peerreview or and number two would be were we asking um Bill to um install the gate um
giving fire department access from Boston Road. I mean where did that where did we end up on that? I honestly don't know. Kristen, could you touch on that? Is that is that KN&R's gate or is that U self storage
gate that I do not know or was it e was it a condition on the of the approval or I mean where do we stand on that? Yeah, I know he has an easement as he stated on the sidewalk but I don't have any information about the gate myself.
Um it's a good it's a good comment and question Scott. I appreciate that. Um there's not a condition in the self storage decision that refers to this question. Um there is
as mentioned an easement that he holds between KN&R and him and then um KN&R Construction has not closed out their project yet. Um and there is a mention of the access
to the self storage in that decision. So technically um there's nothing in the decision for the self storage that we're reviewing here that references that but
it's certainly uh it's the boundary line between the properties and I think it is important to um clarify. So guess that's what I can say. Yeah. I guess my only concern would be
it's not a condition of bill. It's a condition of the other um who was the other applicant was that Karen. Yep. Yeah. So, it's a condition on KN&NR's approval, but they KN&R has an excavator
um you know, sitting in the easement that would block any type of emergency uh egress um um or entrance, you know, into Bill's property. Ultimately, if there was something going on, um could
be a fire, uh whatever whatever it is, it would be um fire trucks not getting past, you know, an excavator unless they have the keys. So, I guess um I'd love to see more protection, you
know, um you know, for for Bill who seems to have done everything and maybe even a little beyond, especially, you know, with the wetlands and or the um the ponds. Um I mean, what what's the
what are our options, Kristen? Do we have any? Um I know Bill wants to close it out. Um, can we put any pressure on KN&R? Um, you know, could we delay the approval on bill uh for bill 2? Um,
you know, K&R isn't a butter, but probably doesn't have any influence over K&R anymore. I mean, what just what are the options? Um, I would say you just described the options pretty well. Um, I think it would be okay to
if the board's interested, we could hold on this decision. Um, and reach out, you know, again, with Kevin and KN&R and explain that this is a concern related to the self- storage property as well as
Kevin closing out. Okay. I I think that might be appropriate. I mean, Bill seemed I think we all spoke to Bill. He wasn't really in any rush. There wasn't anything, you know, um monetarily driving, you know, his
necessity to get this thing closed out. Um so maybe and I'm happy to work with you uh personally working with K&R um um to talk with them. I think it would be um really best for Bill, best for the
town to get that, you know, easement open. Maybe not necessarily a gate today, but just move the excavator. Yep. I agree with the Scott actually. And u not if we don't uh close out on
Bill today, that bill that'll give Bill maybe a little uh foul pre and pressure to get K&R to get the excavator out of the way first of all for fire reasons and
for easement reasons and then uh departmentally between Sadi and Kristen they can uh contact GR and Bill and get this all figured out so that we can move on with GNR and we can move on with Bill too
because Bill's ready to go. So, we'll we'll put put this uh mo I I won't entertain a motion tonight and we'll put this off to uh little business on our next agenda if that's all right with everyone else. If that sounds good to everyone else,
leave it at that. Thank you, Scott. Um All right. So, that concludes our old business. Uh next thing on the agenda we've already done which was the
leazison and meeting report. So the last thing I see on the agenda before we adjourn is planners report from Kristen and Satie. So you got you two have the floor. Thank you. A swan song.
Yes. Um, Satie, do you wanna do you want to chime in and I'll add a few things? Sure. Um, I'll kick it off. So, we had a meeting with Kayla Renie um from MVPC I
believe. Um, and she uh was uh wanted to talk to us about industrial zoning in Newbury. So, they are working on um implementing the SDS program which stands for comprehensive
economic development strategy. Um and she was kind of talking to us about you know the different um industrial uses we could employ in uh Newberry. And um
some of the things that she was saying that I thought were interesting were um you know thinking about what is the best use of um our land in the town and making sure that you know we're considering the use versus you know the
employment that it would bring. Um and um yeah I thought that was all pretty interesting. There's a variety of grants available for this um for this sort of program. Um
yeah, that sums up I think it's um just to like add add one comment, Satie. Um I think they're actually going they're writing up an industrial zone profile of the whole
region. So they're like having interviews with every town. Um which is interesting. So I did we did invite Martha to join this conversation since she has you know 16 years of history on um any changes that Newbury has made to
our industrial and commercial zoning. Um and the intention of this work is really to encourage to identify and encourage expanding capacity for new businesses. So it's part of their sort of economic development growth as Satie said the SS
plan. Um but really looking at like like how work is changing and what kinds of you know green energy technology or different kinds of businesses and and um industries that are growing now and how to help towns that probably like
Newberry haven't really you know we haven't done a lot of in-depth probably thinking about our table of uses and different kind of industry growth. So, it's just I think it's going to be an interesting document to review when they finalize it and think about um whether
there ways to really encourage or incentivize different kinds of business growth. Okay. So, that was kind of interesting different meeting. Yeah, we'll certainly share um documents as
they as they develop them. Hey, that's something to look forward to. And uh it's interesting that there's grants for this too as well. So, we'll see how that all pans out. Um anything else from your planners report, ladies?
Um there's some other projects uh that we're hearing about. Um just briefly want to mention um 96 Handover Street is for sale as a commercial property. It's um the corner of Hanover
and Route One intersection where the um Newbury Animal Hospital currently is. um it's listed in the commercial MLS and it has a conceptual um
plan related to the fact that it's in the MBTA zoning overlay district. So kind of interesting to look at what the preliminary conceptualizing they have done about what kind of multif family um is
currently allowed by that zoning. Um, it's also a parcel that is potentially of interest to the town for other uses, um, such as a fire station. Um, so I've just heard some people talking about
that. I've reached out to the town administrator and you know, I believe there's conversations about that. Um, but I just want to mention that is likely something planning may be a part of.
Um there's also uh been an applicant reach out about an Agra Voltaics um development um on Scotland Road and they have um applied to the building
inspector for an a permit and he has um issued a response that says they need to um come forward with both a special permit and site plan review. Um, but that is a question that's currently
being reviewed by attorneys because it is a new kind of um large scale ground mounted solar project that allows for um agricultural uses to continue. So, um we will see where that goes and I will keep
you posted. Okay, there's a lot going on. I think we now have three decisions coming to the next planning board meeting, unless I'm wrong. So, um, thank you again for everybody's work on all these projects
and, um, yeah, we'll keep moving forward on everything. Kristen, my question on handover is that is there any opportunity for sewer
from new report on that? Um, I talked to my information on this comes from someone who is who inquired for information with me and is
potentially interested in putting in a bid for uh the housing development. And he said that New Wayport has said to potential purchasers that they would be able to
connect. Um it will be an infrastructure uh uh like a large project to get it um hooked up. It currently Newport's water and sewer stop on the other side of the
railroad tracks. Um but it is possible and my understanding is Newport is open to it. Okay. Yeah, I seem to recall that when um the
property across Route One was being looked at for a development, new report was saying no at that time to water and sewer, but times have changed.
Yeah, I remember that too. Um you know, I know the area well. I know the um the corner. Um there would be, in my opinion, I think um you don't necessarily need to go
underground, you know, with sewer. Um they hang it off of bridges, but it would certainly need a u um kind of a gravity type of lift station to get you to uh the other side. Um,
but that's um that's an interesting um interesting piece. Yeah. And I and I current I know there's a railroad crossing and a river crossing there. So, it'll be interesting to hear more about that in the future. And also,
I don't know if sewer goes all the way down Hanover Street. I believe it's just water, but I might be wrong about that, too. So, Stay stay tuned. I know there septic systems on all the houses on Hano, so I don't know that
they have sewer on the street, but I might be wrong and it might just go to the school. So I I think currently you you're right, Woody. It but Newberry Elementary School is hooked into Newberry Port Sewer.
Okay, that's I believe. But yeah, not 100% sure. Not 100% on that either, but I believe that's my understanding of that the house is septic, but the houses have
septics, but the school is on. So, all right. The u if John Gillow is indeed selling the Newbury Animal Hospital, that's going to be a big loss to the community. He he's been a veterary's vet,
including my vet when I've had animals. He's been there for a while. I think u it's maybe part of his retirement plan. Steve, I wouldn't be surprising. Certainly, he's entitled to retire,
but it's a marvelous location for u the town as a veterary place. Um, well, just one really quick thing. I know it's getting late for everybody. Um, the select board did at their last
meeting approve that the town um sign onto the application for the two Plum Island Boulevard project which um Larry mentioned is still in front of the ZBA and it's also um has an NOI with the
KNCOM but the select board uh was presented the project last week and did approve because the application is now including the town owned land on that corner as part of the project. um and
using some of the land area for reveating and um just making the whole site work um from a site plan perspective um as well as uh permitting
as the well and resource um requirements with the consum. So again, just the planning part of it I just want to, you know, call all your attention to is they've, you know, they've designed that
corner with a sidewalk. And I my understanding is there's discussion of whether the sidewalk is paved with asphalt or has a wooden um kind of more beachy
um boardwalk raised so the sand can fall through. Um the applicant is proposing to complete all the improvements, but they will then be on town owned land and the town will be, you know, responsible for maintaining the sidewalk and the
vegetation and the rain garden. And I I I have not actually um seen the most recent plans, but again, just sort of mentioning it's town-owned property that's decisions are being made um as
this project if if and as this project moves forward. So, it's what I've seen it's very attractive. Um pretty exciting to think of those improvements, but again, it's still in the middle of permitting. So, um stay tuned.
Yep. I I would have touched on that, but I got kicked out of the meeting three times. Uh and while Steve Sawyer was speaking on that, so I didn't have any reliable information. So, thank you, Chris.
Yeah. And you can keep us posted. They were discussing uh sidewalks at one point, the rain garden at one point, but I kept having I kept getting kicked out having to log in. I was having some real technical difficulties last night. has been much better. Thank God. So,
thanks again. Yep. All right. Um, is there any other questions, comments, uh, before I entertain a motion to adjurnn? Hearing none, I'd entertain a motion to
adjurnn. I'll move to adjourn. Thank you, Larry. Yeah, I'll take that as a second, Pete. So, all those in favor, roll call vote. Pete. Yes. Larry, yes. Scott, yes. Steve, yes. And I say yes as well. And thank you,
Kristen. And thank you, Sadie. And everyone else, have a good night. Nice job, Sie and Kristen. Thanks. See you in two weeks. Yep.