today's March 19th 2025 as a preliminary matter this is Woody Knight chair of the planning board please permit uh me to confirm that all members in person participated on the agenda are present and can hear me uh playing board
members when I call your name please respond on the affirmative Peter posos yes sir Larry Murphy present Mary Stone see Mary okay Scott kenter yes sir
and Steve manian I okay thank you everyone Tom St when I call your name please respond the affirmative Kristen grubs planning director yes and Dan Lao assistant planner yes hello
good evening March 19 2025 open meeting of the Newbury planning board is being conducted remotely consisting with chapter 2 of the acts of 2023 which extends Governor's March 12th 2020 order suspending certain provisions
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agenda after speakers conclude their remarks I'll go down the list of board members inviting each by name to provide any comment questions or motions the meeting tonight does not include any public hearings however the
board members have spoken excuse me however after the board members have spoken I will afford the public an opportunity to comment and or ask questions I will seek uh questions and comments through the zoom raised
hand F in the order in which the people click on the raised hand button finally each vote in this meeting will be conducted by roll call vote so there a preamble out of the way first item on the agenda this
evening we have um Massachusetts we have an application and subid um Massachusetts housing opportunities Corporation m h LLC submission of a definitive plan
level two site plan review using section 97- 4G mpta communities multif family overlay district for a proposed 44 unit multif
family development located on the 10 and a half acre pastel at 34 Central Street this this's map r19 Lot 19 Ona Melody and Robert Pritchard um I'd like to welcome uh
Michael lvas MH LLC Gerald Welch MH LLC and uh Kristen Smith the architect um if you are you guys all
present yes sir okay great if uh one of you would like to uh present your project to the planning board absolutely uh and just for clarification uh Mr chairman uh I'm actually the engineer not the architect
but that's perfectly fine okay great thank you and um Kristen I have to ask I was just going to use the site plan B and the architect site plan if that's something you can share as you indicated
earlier I'm not sure if if I'm going to be allowed to share a screen yes I will second one second I will get it down get it up okay tell me the name of them Christian sorry
uh so in the plan set the site plan B um would be I believe sheet six you see it there we go yep um yeah next I think two more sheets because I I wanted to show the board the the plan that had the the grading and drainage
shown on it one more perfect uh yes that's it okay good evening uh members of the board again Christian Smith I'm an engineer with be's Associates uh representing the applicants on this
project uh just to reiterate we're talking about the property at 34 Central Street uh you can see it it is very close to the intersection of Central Court um the project as previously mentioned proposes four plexes and five plexes um
and a couple of three plexes uh with entrance right at the well probably 150 ft from the uh intersection of Central Court and Central Street um thank you and as you come in we do have a couple of features uh we
are proposing uh driving in it would be on the left side of the road or the South side of the travel Lane a uh school bus stop structure and that was uh one thing we wanted to discuss with the board in particular because it does
not meet the parent parcel setback and that structure would have a roof it is three-sided uh but it does have a roof on it um so we wanted to know if that would be allowed if that requires a waiver of some sort um on the right hand
side com coming in uh there is a proposed mail kiosk as well as just beyond that the sediment 4 Bay Upstream of one of the two uh bio Retention Ponds proposed uh then we we drive in and as
you start to round the the initial Bend um close to where the intersection is uh we are proposing uh down behind that System of Units uh three areas is for a potential Community Garden area uh you
can see we propose a a walkway or a a walking path which will not actually be constructed uh in any way it is simply going to be a passive uh Recreation walking path um that would uh go through
the woods and there are existing roads out there and basically there will just either be placards hung on trees or something of that nature to delineate that um on the area you're seeing you see the proposed uh enviros septic leech Field
layout as well as a small dog park um and then if we can just uh pan down a little bit off to the right hand side you will see the other uh rather large uh bio retention area with the
sediment 4 Bay Upstream of that uh this pro project is proposed with a 24t wide paved way 5 foot sidewalks and uh Granite curbing um in addition to the larger drainage uh
treatment and infiltration features that I pointed out uh behind uh building five and six there are some uh drip edge trenches uh don't keep go go back down just a little bit uh so if you
go um and there's no stationing on this unfortunately but so just uh plan view left you'll see 51 2 and three and that's what the hatched uh rectangle is out behind that building and similarly out in uh behind unit
61 um and so the obviously based on uh the curbing there will be a closed drainage system uh there will be a sewer collection system one small Pump Station uh up just Street side of uh unit 3
-1 which will convey that up to the uh the septic tanks upstream and ahead of the uh the septic receiving area um and it the the entire roadway is approximately just over 1,50 linear
feet um and we do have uh two small uh just Parks but they will just be grass areas that will be considered you know relatively or graded relatively level so that people can uh take their their kids
out there and play in those grass areas so we think we've we've um you know taken a a a good deal if not everything in the uh suggestions that were given to us at our uh preliminary meeting with the department heads and implemented it
into this design I'm sorry was someone asking a question no I must be hearing things I apologize uh we have also provided uh obviously a full drainage evaluation uh which will be readed and obviously
submitted for uh MD permitting and uh we have submitted a fiscal analysis as well as uh a traffic analysis prepared by vaness and Associates uh the the architectural
plans which we have uh submitted with part of this application show basically the elevations of the buildings the floor plan and uh and a site plan as they lay it out so you can kind of see which type of unit is is in each
location um and I think beyond that we have a a an environmental impact assessment that is underway as we speak our environmental consultant Norse environmental is uh preparing that as
well as I believe they've submitted application to the Conservation Commission at this time excuse me for uh their initial hearing uh and and anrad for the uh small Wetland area which is on the easterly side north easterly side
of the property um and just to give everybody a a picture of of that Wetland uh it it is essentially just an area that was historically overd du in speaking with Moren at Norse
environmental uh she indicates that this uh is virtually devoid of function and value as far as as far as habitat goes um and you know largely what was in and around there prior to this or existing
uh were chicken coops when this was a uh a rather large scale uh chicken and egg facility or Farm um and I think by and large you know we've we've tried to accommodate all of the requests at that
pre-meeting as I mentioned I believe we've covered everything that uh that is required in the MPD uh MBTA zoning and uh met the underlying zoning as appropriate uh with this proposed development the max height on the houses
um are going to be you know will not exceed two and a half stories and uh beyond that as required 50% of the property will be placed into open space under easement we do do not have yet a
determination whether that will be solely controlled by the Condominium Association or whether that will be you know policed by the uh the Conservation Commission but in any event those are those are details that we will certainly iron out as we move forward I think with
that I will turn it over to uh the planner and the board for any questions okay um does anyone from the board have any [Music] questions oh Woody of course yes uh
first off Christian thanks very much for your presentation uh and appreciate this organization pulling something I like this together for our community as being the first MBTA project and uh also with some affordable housing which I'm a very strong
proponent of and you'll learn that as we continue our discussions going down the road um um you know I had an opportunity to today just to kind of look at the set plan the plan sets a couple times and I actually went down um on Central Street uh and Central Court and just kind of
stood around and looked at you know design and you know sort of things and I'll Express before we even start um I I I'll have a concern with the entrance of the roadway just because
when you stand at that corner and you just watch the traffic and I I I looked at the track traffic survey you know we don't need to start the discussion now I would just have concerns about how that opens and I know there's a wetland that that goes over Central Court and I don't
know if you know one two and three buildings one one one two and one3 yeah can be pivoted or in some way you know altered as to where they're sitting to allow for you know maybe a different type of entrance in and out of this uh
this proposal um I know it's something weird to throw at you but I'll I'll be coming at you with it later so if it's on your if it's on your your uh your notepad now you'll you'll know where absolutely and I am certainly taking notes Mr posos yeah so you know and I
and I think you know traffic mitigation is gonna be a big thing here you know when we went when we went into helping design the concept of the of the the setbacks and everything we're really very attuned to the environment of the neighborhood and trying to protect uh
the interest of the abuts and um that that goes onto that roadway too so I think that might be something just to uh to to think about um and I love the idea of you know open space this community you know is a big proponent of that um and so we look forward to you know
talking down the road and uh seeing where things go but this looks like a very uh robust project yeah I appreciate that and we will certainly take those comments under advisement and we will review them with our traffic consultant and uh see what
recommendations they might be able to make thank you thanks Woody okay clar do you have any questions no I don't think so at this point Woody I'm looking forward to seeing how this progresses and uh thank you lar further at this point
okay thank you Scott do you have any questions um yeah just one question I may have M heard but is did um and thank you so much uh you know Christian for uh for the presentation um did you mention a sewer pump
station yeah it's a very small um sewer pump station and it just takes uh the effluent from the first three buildings as you drive in both left and right and the reason for that uh Mr kitten kter
excuse me I almost called you ker uh is that those are so much lower than the rest of the project and that that bit of effluent will have to be pumped up to the uh the septic uh settling tanks prior to going to the leech fields and
um Kristen I'm not sure if you can point it out but it is a collection tank and Pump Station between uh Unit 23 and 31 up near the road it uh yep keep going right there yep
that's the tank and the round is the is the pump station so there'll be a settling tank up slope of the pump station the pump station will then pump the gray water up to the next set of uh septic tanks and settling tanks which
are just off page uh on the bottom right there yep there are two in a row I think those are I can't recall if it's 3,000 or 4,000 gallon tanks okay and do you plan to have an
emergency generator for the um Pump Station almost definitely I don't know that that's been determined for certain uh but it would certainly come highly recommended from from myself okay all right uh I don't have any more
questions Woody thank you okay thank you Scott Steve do you have any questions uh thanks I had to unmute Woody um yeah I'm looking forward to this it seems prettyy exciting and I think uh it'll be good to be working with the other members of the board on this so thank
you okay thank you Steve and um as chair I'd like to say uh welcome and I appreciate your presentation um and one of my biggest concerns that I see in the
beginning this is the beginning uh is the where the road goes out to Central Street um the sensitive area there's traffic there and um anything through further discussions in the future and anything you can do to
maybe make that a safer exit and entrance would be great absolutely and Mr chairman there are you know certain things that can be done that that may be warranted um though though they weren't you know necessarily tripping the threshold as
far as the ashto design criteria but you know things such as uh deceleration Lanes um things of that nature that can get right turning Vehicles off the travelway prior to you know the entrance into the into the property but again you
know I I will take that under advisement uh just as the other member had mentioned and we will review that and discuss that with uh with our Traffic Engineers at VH uh Vaness in central courts tricky as it is now with the angle in which it meets Central
Street so I apprec I would appreciate uh that consideration and I also think it's a great idea to have the bus stop so if we can work together and figure out if that's uh a a good place
to put it and it's acceptable it would be great because I think a bus stop there would be great so well yeah I appreciate that sentiment because you know we were looking at it and uh was like well we do get rain we get snow
here I think it would be nice for the kids to have a roof over their head while they were waiting for those buses okay great so now the next step no one else has any questions from the board uh Kristen or Daniel do you have anything to add do you need to add
anything before I move on not at this time okay no I think I think the submission included all of the materials that um that we require and um you know they'll be they'll be processed at our
end um so we can move forward into setting a public hearing date okay so with that said Thank You Kristen um I would um entertain a a motion to accept the
application for 3 before Central Street and then after that motion in second I'll make that motion we'll set a set a date for uh public um wood do you've got a raised
hand um from Kathleen okay I was not going to uh have public comment this evening we're not in a public hearing um there'll be plenty of opportunity for the public participate in this as it goes on um so
if it's if Kathleen if you don't mind we won't take any public comment tonight and okay you had you you had previously said you were going to take some public comment that's why I raised my hand but I just have one thing as Mr P said if someone could go just go stand on
Central Court at the End by the scary property which is already flooding that would be great and then we'll come back with many questions at the public hearing so I appreciate that thank you okay thank you Kathleen I look forward to everybody's in in the future I think
uh Scott made a motion yes Scott yes Scott motion and we have a second absolutely okay motion and second uh to accept the application roll call vote
Peter yes Larry yes Scott yes and Steve yes yes and chair votes yes as well so um Kristen a good date for to start this public hearing we're going to need a little bit of time so it won't be
in two weeks it will be in four weeks yeah we need to run that we add for a couple weeks so it takes time yeah what is the date four weeks from now um it's
April 16th okay be the soonest um we could open it and if that's all right with the applicant I would entertain a motion to yes sir uh set a public hearing date for this matter 34 Central
Street would happy to make the motion and uh considering that we're in the land of Zoom I would hope that we would continue this meeting in that in that venue however the legislation does not allow that to take place and I think
we'd have to transition to an in-person thank you for that adding that P and that would be on April 16th yes so thank you for the motion do I have a second second okay roll call vote Peter yes
Larry yes Scott yes and Steve how do you feel I'm good about it okay and as chair I vote Yes as well so thank you Christian everyone thank you all the members as well as the planning staff and we're uh very much
looking forward to working with you on this okay thank you so much and have a great evening you as well you too okay moving on to the next thing on the agenda we have um new
business 100 100 high road assesses map R34 Lot 21 this is an informal discussion regarding a subdivision proposal um before I welcome Tom NE I would just uh like to say I'm going to
recuse myself from this matter Peter's GNA take over for this this discussion but welcome Tom uh Tom and I'll see you when this matter is over thank you so Tom why don't you just give us a
little overview of what your your concepts are here so that we can have an appreciation I'd be happy to uh members of the planning board Kristen Daniel for your record my name is Thomas Ney I am a civil environmental engineer and a
registered Lance surir and I've been operating as a uh private consultant since 1982 out of Topsfield for 35 years and I'm semi-retired at this point and my uh
company has assumed a new name in Danvers it's the more in Cameron group and they'll actually um if we move forward with this development they'll actually be our Engineers of of record um but I did have the opportunity to
meet with Christian and um Daniel and I appreciate that I did have an opportunity to review your zoning byw and subdivision regulations and I've come up with some ideas um I'm the owner of the property um and
it's a beautiful piece of land it's small I'm sure you all know where it is it's on 100 high road it's 3.82 Acres around 166,000 square feet and it's been used um primarily as a barn with a few
horses and two big hay Fields so our ideas were to come up with some schemes um and discuss them with you and in hopes to get some inut and to formulate a path that might be
acceptable to the planning board in moving forward so I've submitted five plans for you and hopefully have them in your packet I don't know if we'll be able to put them up but that's helpful but if not uh I'll direct you to the
packet that you have it should have five plans in it uh the first plan is a small schematic i title it conventional subdivision layout Tom I can uh I can bring it up
for you so just wonder just tell me where to go okay it's it's it's after my narrative and it should be the first plan that one right there and it's um titled plan number one and it's a
conventional subdivision layout uh the property is highlighted in yellow and the road a is been designed according to your schematic widthwise and color sack size and it shows three lots two 40,000
squ foot lots and one 51,000 square foot lot and the proper roundings at that high road that um is pretty simple and that would be a conventional
subdivision moving on if we could to the second plan um I I got the impression that town is very um sensitive to open space and tries to promote open space in as many
developments as you can um so what we've done in the second plan is we've used your osrd bylaw with lots one and two having 50 ft of Frontage on high road and lot
one having a conventional Frontage and that lot would be a 40,000 sqare foot lot um I totally recognize that your bylaw indicates that um the osid in the current form needs to have three lots or
more um it's under review now with the warrant article I believe at your town upcoming town meeting to possibly discuss that and and maybe move it down to two lots um of course you know if you just had it
available to all subdivisions that may simplifi matters but that's the business of the town and we certainly would default to that once that um situation is resolved but this plan shows open space
surrounding the property and what is not highlighted in green would be the developable developable portions of lots one two and three and the sizes of those lots you can see lot two and three exceed 60,000 square feet and lot one
would be a conventional 40,000 foot lot so and moving on to plan number three this is a plan that shows um the three lot subdivision if your bylaw stays the way it is uh we would have to
include include lot one in the osrd and in doing so we would have to provide additional open space because now that lot would be part of the total land area and it would still remain at 40,000
square feet lot two and three would still have the same amount of area but the open space would increase according to your bylaw so this plan would conform to the osid uh
requirements and moving on to plan number four this is a conventional subdivision plan and what was important for me to demonstrate to you tonight is um if we were asked not to consider the osrd but
to consider a conventional subdivision um this is a sketch which shows that we could conform in all respects to your conventional subdivision regulations not requiring any waivers from the planning board rules and
regulations and then we would be creating three lots uh two of them would be 40,000 square feet Lot number three would be 51,000 square feet there would be no open space um and I fail to uh indicate to you you probably know the
property um but there are no Wetlands on the land so none of uh no part of the entire Fel is is wet or considered Wetlands under the wetlands protection act so uh these Lots would all have um the square footage shown on the plan is
the Upland portion and the total Upland portion of the land the last plan I indicate as plan number five and Christen if you can move to plan
number five it's the next one up there we go U this is the conventional subdivision layout um and what I've done is I think it
makes a lot of sense to um not build a road of substantial size and and volume um but to consider building the layout and dedication of course because we'd
need that in in order to create Frontage and then uh request a special permit for the construction of a common driveway uh Lot number one would be would have Frontage on high road it would be a 40,000 foot lot it would
conform to zoning and that could be removed from the land with a an anr plan and lot number two and three could be serviced by a common driveway the roadway dedication would formulate
the frontage for those lots and we would then produce a lot of 40,000 square feet and 51,000 square feet respectively um this idea came to mind for a number of reasons my um specialty
is environmental engineering and I've been involved in a lot of projects within central Essex County and and um northern Essex County in particular uh literally thousands of subdivisions I've been involved in um affordable housing
projects mostly residential subdivisions and also worked quite handily with um green PE green um you know Green type projects projects that were actually
donated to Green Belt um as a matter of um large large pels that uh my clients would be interested in in De veloping a tax deductible substantial tax deductible contribution and so you know
I've been involved in so many different varieties of subdivisions that we always look at the land and try not to manufacture anything that would be unnatural to the terrain and unnatural to the properties
of the of the uh of the neighborhood so this plan to me Rises to that level and I would um appreciate your your comments on it because I think it would allow the subdivision to be built allow the land
to be divided um the Lots would be you know of substantial size but the impact on the property itself would be minimal the uh there is an existing driveway that comes
from high road which traverses along the northern boundary um of our neighbor and actually is used primarily for access to the barn and you might see that as a dashed line uh right
up against the boundary line so you know that's been the access to the farm for many years and this would be offset from that a bit but it would be consistent with the access that the farm had uh the
comma driveway could be built certainly have to be built in accordance with your uh criteria for common driveways and I think that would be our best effort moving forward but um I wanted to bring
the other options to you for your you know for your input and and advice um you might and there's one more plan that I had submitted I had referenced the kns court subdivision in my narrative but I
failed to produce the plan originally with my narrative so I subsequently have sent it to Kristen and you might notice on that plan that the U planning board did allow a roadway similar to the the
schematic that I have on plan number five and and did allow a common driveway to be accessed to to those two lots and it's right next door it usts us um and I think it would
be consistent with that it would be much less impacting this driveway is so much shorter and and I think the impact that the driveway would have on the road would be a bit more than the existing driveway
to the bond but not a whole lot more so Mr chair that that ends my my uh presentation I appreciate any feedback that I could get from the board and question thanks what I'll do is I'll I'll ask board members if they have any question and then staff and then I I'll I'll make a couple comments so first
Larry do you have any questions at this time yeah Ju Just on the osrd plans um I mean you're right we we do as a board I think tend to favor that I'm not sure with this particular project that there's much advantage to an osrd from
the point of view of the public interest of future owners um but it looks like one plan you've got 63,000 plus uh square feet of open space and the other looks like about 83,000 is that am
I reading this correctly yes you are yeah and they they I mean as a practical matter uh I don't think that that would be open space that would be available to the public um the other thing um is wouldn't you need a
frontage Vari for the for the back two lots from the zba not in the you mean in the osr no because you allow uh the reduction in Frontage to a a minimum lot Frontage of 50 feet oh okay so we would
have 50 feet along high road for both those lots yeah I mean I I I would keep an open mind certainly but I I kind of gravitate more to the conventional sub well I you know in in my discussions
with Daniel and Kristen um we all came to the same conclusion that you certainly try to create open space where the public can use it you create open space where you can link it with other Green Space that might exist um and something that might be an attribute to
the community or an attribute to the direct neighborhood um and and I didn't I agree with you I didn't see any real benefit to creating an OS s Rd on this parcel um simply because it didn't have those attributes and I I think
that's it it's obvious that that's a main concern of of the town and that's what you shoot for in most of these thank you all set Larry I yeah I think so beautiful thank you uh Scott any questions or comments at this time
um yeah and um great presentation Thomas I really appreciate you coming um and I I'm I'm with Larry I I don't see a um I guess um Christen Daniel and you um this just doesn't seem to be a lot of um you
know benefit to the town and the OSD sorry def front um but could you just speak a little bit more to I'm not sure if it was plan number five it was just the common
driveway uh for the two lots sure I'd be glad to um the the outlying description would be the dedication of the roadway so we would have to create what some might refer to as a
paper street but create a roadway that is consistent with the subdivision rules and regulations um it would create the dedication of the road it would have roundings it would be of proper width it would have this the proper colis saac
and in that sub division submitt we would then ask for waivers from the planning board on the construction of the road in L of building a common driveway in accordance with the
requirements of a common driveway and if it's well received by the board then we would simply leave the dedication where it is it would be a private road it would not be maintained by the town and it would be serviced it would service
only those two lots and it would be serviced by a common driveway all right Larry um Pete I I don't have any more questions okay thank you Scott uh Steve do you have any questions or comments at this time yeah I would just say that U at this time I
share the uh discussion about open space and whether it would really uh do much for the community given the layout that's being proposed but I don't see open space as a high priority at this time for this proposal but it'll be interesting to
work with it again thank you thank thanks Steve I'm gonna turn to uh staff uh uh Christian do you wantan to go first any comments questions um no I don't I I I guess my comment
well I have one comment my comment regarding open space that we did talk about um when Tom and Daniel and I met was that the property of buts um tender crop farm and you know has a
agricultural history as does a lot of high road and and these parts of town um you know not too many generations back I believe uh this property is not
currently in agricultural use but um that I guess just when you read the osrd bylaw and you think about what the natural resources are on this parcel those are the values you know if
you look at habitat or or forest or you know other natural resource values the values that this parcel has is the agricultural um use as a potential it's not currently active it doesn't necess necessarily
translate to Future um development in any way but I would just say in terms of using the osrd bylaw to think about the intent the purposes of that bylaw are to preserve the natural resource values
that are most pertinent to this particular site so that would be the question that would be asked if one I think were to look at osrd it's not necessarily to buffer the neighborhood or you know provide Scenic value it could
potentially be to enhance the agricultural use that um you know if they're Prime soils I haven't looked at any of that but those would be the questions I would have um but again I think it may not be appropriate for the
intended um you know subdivision plans in this case well Pete uh if I may I have a followup uh Tom um how would the um the osrd um uh affect the uh the
structure placement on Lots two and three well in each case the open space is shown in green and the structures would be put on what's not
green so you could see the Lots the way they're set up there would be structures that would be you know reasonably close together and then the open space would surround them and yeah I I I didn't ask the question very well maybe a better way to put it would be if
you just go with the conventional subdivision is that going to cause you to place the the homes somewhere else in the lot like within the the area highlighted in green you know not not really because if you look at the common
driveway layout I I pretty much put on there the location of where it would be and of course this is in a preliminary way at this point but at the fork we show a turnout and you know I used the same dimensional criteria as was used on
nights court for a a turnout for emergency vehicles and whatnot and then from the end of the turnout in both directions we go to the house site so you know the the house site would sit you know
relatively close to the dedication simply because the dedication isn't it isn't a road it's not built so it would still provide space between the driveway and the and the front of the house so there'd be no reason to put the
house any further back than than the ends of those driveways um okay I think my question and lot one already has a house on it right and there that's lot one already has a house you could see it if you look closely there's house there's there's a
pool area and there's the barn so um we we do have uh somebody interested their horse folks uh we could easily see that being being used with a small Paddock Outback um beyond the barn and you know
maybe to house one or two horses for for their own personal use but that would um that's the way I'm encouraging that that lot to be used and would that lot have direct access onto high road or would it come off the no it would have direct access from high road the if you look
close to to it uh looking at High Road looking at the front of the house the driveway is is on the right side of it it's and you could see there's it's it access actually a tw- stall garage which is on the right side of the house and it
goes directly out on TI road so it would not it wouldn't be in conflict with with either the road or or the driveway okay thank you thanks uh Dan you do you have any questions or comments at this time no
thank you Pete I appreciate it cool um so uh Tom thank you very much for uh coming together with some Concepts and I think you've heard kind of most the majority of the board's feeling on the osr and you know that did with whether it's two or three will kind of be
directed by what takes place at our town meeting which will be the end of April um have have you done any perking yet uh no we have perk test scheduled for uh the be first week in April and um we've looked at the USDA soil maps and the
land is um quite uh deeply drained so we don't anticipate any problems doing perk tests for for well only two lots in this case okay we'll we'll see what that looks like um hey are fire hydrants nearby on this the fire hydr I'm glad
you mentioned that I'm not sure exactly L where the where the hydrant is um on the road but there is Town water on high road it's on the opposite side of the street um we we would I I don't think that we would bring Town water into the project um I
think the lots of of sufficient size um that we would drill Wells and have on-site septic disposal and you know just try to minimize the uh you know those those types of construction
requirements because because the next place I'll go with this Tom is uh safety you know Public Safety uh because I'm a big Public Safety guy and uh I always have concerns about fire apparatus uh okay multiple Vehicles having to show up especially uh if there's limited hydrant
pressure for whatever reason and you get two trucks in a tanker if that was the case um a common driveway would be a concern for me well that's why we have that turnout and we certainly can make it of sufficient size and width to accommodate
whatever the fire department might might recommend but you know we're in such a preliminary way I think the I think the width of the common driveway in y regulations is 15 feet wide um I would actually propose something wider I think
I I did a small development here where I live in West Newbury um and we have a common driveway with I built I actually built the road and built the common driveway and it's it's 20 feet wide and you know I'm not I'm not looking to
minimi in one respect I'm looking to minimize the impact of the land by not having to build a full blown subdivision roadway with you know 30 foot paved Circle um but it it also I think the
common driveway width uh could be wider and probably would serve the Lots in this area a lot better so um I might if it goes down that route actually ask you to make that a wider Road maybe 20 feet
paved um allow for two vehicles to pass and give a substantial um effort down below where the where the turnout is as well um I talked to the fire department and come up with the proper type of te
down below for emergency vehicles and staging and whatnot um and again it's fully it's it's a hay field there's no trees it's not a wooded site by any means so these kinds of things can easily be built into the
infrastructure to provide as much safety as to fight a PO would deem necessary sure I understand and what what is that length back to that uh to where the homes would be is that about 350 ft or is that a little bit more you know you're probably about right I didn't I
didn't really measure it but it's not I would think that's about that's fair okay because if you hit the 500 foot you know you're gonna be yeah no we're we're way short of that yeah yeah it looks shorter okay cool you know if I
haven't you know I I've been doing this for a long time and and I think the best laid plan is that plan that common driveway plan um I don't see where the open space provides as much of a public
benefit or even a benefit to the to the neighborhood um directly and and I'm really looking to minimize the impact that this development would have on the land by not building a large color saac you know it's it does doesn't make any
sense to do a conventional subdivision one of my sketches do does suggest that we could do a conventional subdivision without any waivers but I really believe that's not the appropriate thing to do for such a small effort like this so I I
hope that um you're getting the impression from me that I I would prefer to build a common driveway and and maybe at this point you're not ready to uh you know comment on it um but I'd be happy to come back at your next meeting with
more uh you know more appropriate plans with some grading plans and something that I could visit with the fire department and maybe come up with something that might work a little bit better for the town and and then present that to you at your next meeting if
that so I think maybe at this point Tom I'd have you work with staff uh to okay to talk about things you know it's not our we don't tell you what to do you bring a plan to us and we say yes it makes sense or it doesn't make sense and so I appreciate the conversation we're having now but I think you know the next
steps you know you're going to per you're going to find out what works what doesn't work um you'll have more information you have an opportunity to kind of feel where we've been at and you can work with this through staff so we look forward to when you come back after that well does anybody I really don't know where the consensus is at the board
do you have any par particular consensus at this point so you want to you want to push the question of a straw hole of a of a Dr well I kind of brought some schematics and if there's any one that you're leaning to it then I can
elaborate a little bit more on it if there's any that you would not be the least bit interested and we can set those aside lry what would you like to do my friend well I you know I mean we haven't had any input
um I wouldn't want to commit to anything let's put it that way uh as as I previously expressed I I don't really see the OS Rd is having any particular public or private benefit um I
mean even if you go the osrd route that that open space is just going to become the backyard for the you know for the structures on Lots two and three um I as far as the common driveway goes
it may make perfect sense I my initial reaction to that suggestion was um it's maybe not a precedent we want to set but apparently that's already been set on nights kns Court um and and you make you
make a good case um for why that might be preferable over uh definitive subdivision uh standard uh subdivision road construction but we haven't heard from Public Safety we haven't heard from our peerreview engineer you know that's that's about as
much direction as I can give you at this point okay that's wonderful thank you Scott anything uh additional from you um I think Larry said it um very nicely um
but um it's it's great real estate Tom and appreciate you coming in I think uh uh you'll be back and we'll get it figured out well what I was suggesting to do at this point and I might just throw this out but um I didn't want to be
presumptuous by any means but I I like to try to get the neighbors involved as early as possible to give me their comments and and hear their concerns they certainly know the area better than I do so at this point I would probably have some sort of an informal uh meeting
at the house with some of the neighbors if they want to swing by before your next meeting and then I can give you some input on well that or they can certainly give you input but I thought that might be um a good a good way to go
you know for for us as as the next step um and then maybe a submission of a preliminary subdivision plan um would be helpful this way we could get into the public
hearing Arena and get a lot more information from your peer review engineer as well um I just don't know I mean I certainly don't want to take a route that requires a whole lot of time and effort by the town but
um I'm certainly not you know adverse to getting something started so we can get some good I think you just um sorry Pete Sor no Thomas if I
may I think um I'm a huge proponent of of of you know getting with the neighbors you know um whether it's at this stage the next next stage but at some stage um because it's uh it's extremely important um it's
it's uh it's good relations and it uh it helps the process but I think at this stage I think you've heard the feedback from the board um and I do think that you could I'm hoping you would follow up with h with Kristen and Daniel and kind
of walk through um maybe um what's what's the best Next Step wonderful I'll certainly do that thank you you're welcome all right uh any other comments or questions at this point in time on this discussion folks
I'll say one thing that I um you know share the discussion about the open space being you know a formal part of the subdivision versus it just being big backyards uh I think big backyards are actually a nice addition because I can imagine those two lots being places
where uh you know friends would come and play and enjoy the community just by having the big backyards to play in I suppose I'm romanticizing how I grew up with h big yards and places to play uh half
ball so I think the common driveway has a lot to say for it but again I'm romanticizing that's okay thank you all right thanks very much everyone thanks thanks Tom thank you appreciate it enjoy the rest t night
all right we move the gabble back over to Woody s all right everyone can hear me and see me very good um next item on the agenda old business Doug to shanes pinin and
Nicholson PC in Adam true manager of Gatson Lane LLC um at the request of the applicant um they've asked to be moved to the next meeting which is on April 2nd so we will
not be discussing this old business this evening we'll see that in two weeks uh moving on from there we have uh seate 105 high road request to release
lot nine and a request for a bond reduction the applicant is seeking to have last slot release Building Commissioner has done final inspection and staff will update the board on whether he has granted been granted an
occupy um this time I I guess I would ask the board I mean excuse me I guess I would ask the applicant to give us an update on where we're at here sure thank you uh good evening Mr chair my name is Matt Gaines I'm an attorney uh with the law fir Marcus Oro
Emer and Brooks and I represent the 105 seate LLC the applicant under this permit um so yes as you stated and I I had submitted a letter last week um we are seeking the uh the board to direct the Building Commissioner to issue the
certificate of occupancy for the last unit Unit Nine in this development um obviously assuming all that the Standard Building Commissioner requirements are met which I believe we have um that we just don't see any reason for this to be um held up at this point particularly
under the permit I know there are some questions maybe about some some unfinished work particularly with regarding to some plantings um I can give you a quick update on that um and that with respect to the plant
installation uh in the Reclamation area uh the plants have been purchased uh the applicant has you know has an agreement or a contract with their landscaper to install those plants um obviously we're kind of in a you know weather
dependent situation right now and seasonal dependent situation but the landscaper believes that he may be able you know obviously if the weather holds out may be able to plant those as soon as the the next week or two um so that's good news on that
front um the other item I believe has to deal with receding uh the open space after planting in the Reclamation area um and again they we have you know an agreement with the landscaper to do this work obviously this is you know again
very seasonal type of work likely won't be done until sometime in the middle or late April or maybe even early May depending on the uh the weather conditions and the um soil temperature um so I think those are sort of the big items out that still need to be done and
I would hardly consider those big at this point um I believe the town's still holding a little over $26,000 as part of the performance security uh you know more than enough money to cover those items the quotes for those two items were
$2,400 and $3600 respectively so we're not talking about uh Big Ticket items um on the bond release issue um the items that have been completed since the last release which was in November
2024 the uh the seashell driveway and gravel base are done and if the board wants by the way I have some photos of these things I'm happy to share my screen but um the sea shell driveway and gravel base are completed uh the concrete pad with the Ada pandel panels
and entry striping has been completed and the Wetland Reclamation area work is stabilized was completed by Riverfront landscape and was overseen by um Tom Hughes so those are the the sort of the bond release items that we are
seeking but really the the priority at this point is the um certificate of occupancy for the the final unit that that's the the main ask for tonight because we have a buyer who's ready willing and enable to close and we're we're ready willing enable to
close I'll except for the issuance of the certificate of occupancy so that is really what we we are seeking tonight okay thank you um before I turn it over the board for questions Kristen and Daniel do you have anything to add
no I I know that um The Building Commissioner has been talking with Gail and and been out you know in touch with you guys this week I didn't see Peter today so I I don't know exactly where his final
checking all his boxes are um yeah if I may Ben or Maggie I think do you have an update on that did the commissioner come out today uh the commissioner came came out yesterday and um said we had passed okay
yep but didn't actually issue the certificate of occupancy no he hasn't issued it yet I think he's sort of waiting for direction from this board yeah thanks Maggie y um regarding you know the other things
left on the bond estimate list um you know uh we haven't we haven't seen those yet we haven't seing the um concrete paths at the sidewalk or the final um
seashell area sure the parking I think our last site visit was July um but there's certainly some review of these final things that I think it would be appropriate for staff and and board members to do um before you know before these particular
items are checked off the list um and then I would just say you know as I think we all know the conservation restriction is not finalized yet it is finally submitted to the state and I think we're all hoping that the state will at this time of year have you know
have time to get it back to us um somewhat soon although it's been a couple weeks um so we're waiting on that um there are I mean there are I'd love to have some time to really
talk through each of the open space issues like the parking area the signage um I know there are a lot of different documents that outline who's responsible
for what in terms of um you know 105 High versus the homeowners association versus the town after the CR I just feel like there may be some specific questions that haven't been completely ironed out yet at least I've been trying
to get up to speed with all the documents related to this project but I I still have a few questions and I think it might be helpful to have you know another walkth through where we just go over all that with with you guys I think it was very helpful to be on the
property with you all last summer um so I think that would be helpful and you've offered that so you know we can we'll take you up on it yeah and if I may respond to those I think all those things that that the planning director mention you know with regarding to doing
the walkthr and some of those all relate to the bond release issue and I you know Maggie can obviously speak for herself if she disagrees with me but I I think we're okay on sort of maybe putting pause on on the bond release request until you guys get out there and get a
chance to look at those things um but none of those items that that the plan director mentioned in the CR the conservation restriction being held up at the state as well none of those are reasons to withhold the the issuance of the certificate of occupany that there's
not really any legal grounds for the town to and I kind of laid that out in the letter I submitted uh for this hearing that there are no real legal grounds for the town to withhold the issuance of the certificate of occupancy but certainly on the bond you know Fair comments on those and and yes we can
talk to you know Maggie can coordinate that or Ben and get you guys out there to do that so we can get the bond release but um not on the certificate of occupancy okay um Peter do you have any questions yeah or a couple comments as well uh you know thinking about this uh and thanks
uh Matt for your input tonight um I don't know how we structured uh who's going to be responsible for maintaining the pathways and the
walkways and hold on and and and in the process because as uh Steve so knows um that vegetation grows rapidly and quickly and it's stuff that when you walk through it it's really pretty painful um so I I
don't know or if you could help refresh for me who's going to be responsible for it who's going to be paying for it and how's that going to be funded going in the future absolutely so that is all detailed quite clearly in the conservation rest rtion um which has
been approved by the town meaning the the town planner Conservation Commission and and your Town Council as well have all blessed it um in its current form which is currently sitting in someplace at eoea uh and the answer to your question it's the condo association um is
responsible for that and and funded basically through the the condo fees there'll be a line item in the condo association budget uh for that and they will be you know done by the condo associ okay and so who's going to over don't please don't take this the wrong way
Matt who's going to oversee that the condo I mean the condo association will have a governing board right they'll what they'll like right now as in every condominium that's created the developer sort of the the sole condo board member um but soon probably in the next few
months the developer will release her control uh and the the owners will elect a board of three members who will serve on a condo board just is the case in all condo associations and they will be responsible for it that was the you know the agreement and that's what the town
directed us to do beautiful and that is spelled out as to what the what the funding what the funding amount will be is that spelled out well I think it's I there not an exact dollar amount right because budgets change as time goes on but yes so I'm gonna turn to Steve so Steve
how often is this going to need to be groomed um as far as for the the trail I yeah yeah the trail I well the open space I believe they're mowing the open space there's an area that they mow once a month and then in other area they
mow once a year you there a perimeter the trail itself my feeling is probably once a month they got to run through there with the weed whacker and once you knock it back um it may you know it's really just the open Woods is fine it's just that area around the the bog
Bridges that's that's the area that they get to hit so they really don't have to go too far to hit that hit that area and the second bog bog Bridge isn't isn't as bad as that first the first is where you have that heavy growth um so they don't have to go far from that the open space field to cross that first bridge and
then once you get into the open once you in the wooded area it's not bad it's probably just once or twice probably twice a year they got to go out there and that's it I I haven't been there since we did that uh yeah courageous cut through it's it's a whole Kristen was out there after
the trail was cut um this past uh this past summer and I actually went out um I don't know probably about three weeks ago two two or three weeks ago and it looked great it was fine okay great thanks Steve thanks for
now okay Larry do you have any questions I I just want to um yeah so if I understand that there's two issues here one is the is the uh release of lot n so the certificate of occupancy can be issued and the other is the
amount of the bond what we should be holding is that has Town Council been part of this discussion yes and what's what's Town council's advice Kristen I for which question either
either um I believe Town Council feels that uh there is not a legal reason to hold the occupancy permit um that's not that was not a condition in the special permit um she also feels like the um
funds are um uh that the board could consider asking for an increase in the remaining funds in the bond to assure that all the
things are completed and I think that is you know obviously when the board released the funds you a few months ago late fall um you know we went through line by line but I think at that point in time and in retrospect there may be
things that we all know need to be completed that don't actually have a line item on the bond um so I think the town council's uh Council was that the board could consider asking the applicant to you know a responding yes
the lot could be released assuming the Building Commissioner has signed off on everything um and B if the applicant would consider increasing what's in the bond to assure that the remaining things actually do get completed um and I just
would comment that part of where we're coming from for the sake of Maggie and Matt and and Ben is uh situ similar projects where the developer has completed their work and
the trail was not sufficiently done the CR was not sufficiently approved and it's exceedingly harder to work with a homeowners association I think that's you know can be said reasonably I'm not anticipating that's the case here I think we're all working together well at
this point with this project but that's a a comment from the perspective still still waiting for approval from the state though right correct and I I do want to add the other thing we haven't um mentioned that's on the list is there's a baseline report that needs to
uh be completed and signed by the grantor and the grantee of the conservation restriction at the time that the CR is conveyed and that is also not finalized um so that's a component of work related to the conservation
restriction um Town council's opinion on that work is that the Baseline report cannot be completed until the replication is completed because it's documenting the conditions of the property at the time the CR is being conveyed so there are some buckets of
work related to open space that um don't have a line item in the bond estimate but we still need to assure they get done okay do we have a figure in mind for the bond amount um I think council's advice was
50 or 60 ,000 could be appropriate um and I did not get detail from her on that but I could certainly follow up if okay thank you help all right thank you Kristen thank
you Larry uh Scott do you have any questions or comments um yeah I've got a few um first um when's the outside closing date um and by the way I mean the board um I
think I'm speaking for the board we we we wouldn't want you to lose you know a sale um you you worked very very hard uh Ben's done a a nice job and Maggie to uh finish up the project at least to this point uh so we we we don't want that to
happen but I'd be interested to know how much time we actually have um March 27th I believe let me just double check that yeah March 2 week from tomorrow um I guess I also heard from
Kristen and I'm sure she's speaking you know for Dan as well that um she's a bit uncomfortable um with really what's left out there um you know just
um maybe uh a meeting in short notice um within the next um you know maybe we can have that meeting early next week uh Monday or Tuesday walk through a list so we all understand exactly you know what needs to be completed who's doing what
um that would be um I think that would be a benefit to uh you Matt your um uh your clients and uh I think uh it' be a benefit to the town um would that be possible yeah I don't Maggie and Ben
correct me if I'm wrong but I don't I think they're open to certainly having folks come out there for meeting so you guys can see you know a the work that's been done since November um and B see what's left to be done and that fact that's really not that much left to be
done okay my my third question would be um question I just it's 26,000 is what we have left in the 26 like 30 26374 to be exact yeah
um and you have an estimate um or Ben has an estimate of5 or $6,000 for you know material and labor to um complete the work yeah the plantings that I mentioned yep
um yeah I mean I I I would say that um you know these replication areas I've done a 100 of them I mean it's it's it's um it's uh you know on the surface at the beginning it might see easy or seem easy um you do the planting and then you
know you know more often than not you're continually coming back and replacing um you know plants that didn't take it's it's over a course of you know a season or two um I think um probably Chris and her team have a little bit of
concern over that um you know would um I guess would um Maggie and Ben be willing to um you know increase the shy bond is that an option for you guys well I I
think that's what was mentioned a few minutes ago I guess it it all depends on how much I I would note just quickly looking at the the bond um as I said there's 26,000 in change left um you know so that that money for example if
you go by line by line and what's left one of it is you know the concrete pads with Ada panels at High Roads $4,000 that's been completed so there's an argument that we should actually get that four back um there's I think someone says an entry wall in the open
Spa I'm sorry the seashell driveway with gravel base that's another $3,000 that's been done so we are we'd be entitled to that back um the asilt plans is $55,000 those are actually done they were just submitted today but they're done so
there's another 5,000 um so between those three things alone there's actually $112,000 of specific line items has actually been completed and in theory we could request that money back and get a release of it so that would take down
the 26,000 now down to um you know uh $14,000 um I'm not suggesting that I just you know again we're not asking for that to happen but I I think there's a good argument that it could happen my point is is that if we just keep it at
26 you're pretty well covered for I think what's left to be done I I guess I'm not sure I need to I guess I need to understand what the basis would be to increase the security well you know let's you know what's the what what
what's the the the concern that could raise that could rise above $26,000 I guess is I think that's I think that's a fair comment um excuse me um actually could I Steve Sawyer could I interject us for a second
yeah so number one Matt hit it there the really the only thing the only thing that's remained to be done out there everything's 100% complete except for the replication which has been prepped the organic soil has been prepped it's just a matter of seeding it so we're down to that point um and also as far as
the concerns um Kristen had me mentioned the Baseline report there was a draft Baseline report already completed and submitted um and so we have that document has been created and submitted uh I believe it submitted with with the
CR back a few months ago a month or so ago um so as far as any kind of paperwork or something to support the transition from um the developer from magy to the homeowners association the Bas Li report that's basically n it's
it's been submitted and needs to be reviewed and finalized so we're we're 90 90% there on the Baseline report so I I'll just respond to that we gave you comments back but you haven't you haven't given us comments I haven't seen the comments on the B I have not seen
the comments on most those were resolved already Kristen by apolog I I'll double check on that that's on me then that's on me if if we're missing something in that but I'll I I'll I'll Circle back and again I just I just want to um explain for the benefit of everybody
including the board members that report is a documentation of the conditions of the conservation restriction area at the time that the CR gets conveyed so it's really it really can only be finalized with photographs
narrative description documentation there's an affidavit that both the grantour and the grantees sign at the time of the conveyance of the CR and the council we've received therefore is that can't be completed until the Wetland
replication area is completed so it's just it's just phasing it in I have no doubt we'll get there we just want to get there with you and I will O say we want to make sure that the homeowners association is is fully ready to partner
on the open space once Maggie makes that transition which it sounds like might be in the next month or two no probably probably a little more than that but you know we're not you know obviously she wants to hang on because you know it'll be easier for her to get the bond money
back if she's in still in control right and there's incentive for her to get that Bond money back so um so yes some of it the turnover somewhat might relate to that frankly um Matt is this a is this a cash
um Bond or is this a insurance believe I believe it's a cash Bond cash Bond yeah okay um so I guess in theory um you how this all works you know you and you know the
um it looks like like just about everything is done with the exception of the replication area and maybe a couple of other things um but in reality um there's always more right to uh what the requirements of the
subdivision uh and the conditions um you know are and um like for example you know the um the asilt you say it's done right yep well it really can't be done until the replication area is done
right um that that really the the as built didn't you know picked up the trail location picked up you know it I don't know if that's a requirement of the asilt it's just landscaped area uh the the specific portions of the as belt
related to the driveway grading drainage uh uh the drainage system sewer systems Water Systems most of the infrastructures that supported the building the septic locations uh then and then in the open space it showed the bog you know basically the route of the
bog Bridges and the in the trail Network um as far as to Steve's point the permit the special permit when it references you know what the ad bill is to include it's really more I guess Improvement structures not not plantings it talks about you know the buildings the stor or
management facilities the roadway edges locations and inverts of the required utilities and drainage and location of underground utilities um so I not going to that granular of detail showing where each tree and plantings are that that's
not required on the as builts it's maybe I guess my last comment would be in closing um it would be um we uh at least I am um
very confident that you know Steve Maggie and Ben will um complete everything that they need to complete um and um I uh I think we're going to need a season
um or so so um you know you may not get your um you know charity Bond um or Bond back until after the wetlands um is accepted I think by conservation um but you know if you were
willing to meet you know with um with Kristen and Daniel you know staff um you know prior to closing hopefully Monday or Tuesday the 27th is coming fast um and if you are willing to um consider and offering
to um maybe you know uh you know increase um your bond um you know maybe not to 50 or $60,000 uh but to some place you know in the middle um you know it would uh it
would go a long way with the to yeah so what I would suggest perhaps is that the town uh the board rather vote to approve tonight the issuance of the last certificate of occupancy and to direct the Building Commissioner to
issue that as as Kristen explained you know Town Council is Appy that there is no legal leg for the town to stand on to withhold that and that that can't be tied to increasing the security or anything else that the so that that really really needs to be issued and and
that should be issued as far as you know all the other issues the bond amount whether it frankly a good argument could be made that it should decrease based upon the work or obviously maybe you're thinking it should increase I suggest that we we punt on that that question for the evening and and kick that can
down the road a little bit to allow the town to meet maybe as soon as next week but you know obviously very soon I don't know what everybody's schedule is but certainly as soon as possible for the town to come out there to meet for the parties to talk get a better sense of okay what's left to do and what are
those costs and then we can kind of reconvene once the there's been a little bit more you know meeting of the minds at the actual site so we know you know what what is a reasonable dollar amount um because I don't think we can pin that on pin that number right now Matt I
think that is an excellent suggestion um and it might take a couple weeks to get that number but I think uh your your recommendation and if Woody if you are of the mindset uh to have the uh uh phase one if you will the certificate of occupancy released um I think that would
make good sense uh then I think you know just work through these other issues as they need to be addressed uh and I'll just say you know we unfortunately Matt we we we we went through one of these and it was very difficult and it was very timec
consuming and so we want to make sure that we just don't step into another situation where the issues and concerns aren't addressed and I think they're all going to be be addressed Scott has said it and we've seen it so U there you have it I think that would be acceptable I
think that a meeting is very important in getting getting the squid away because uh we don't want this drag out for years no absolutely not so I mean yeah I think Maggie and Ben can reach out to should they coordinate the meeting through you Kristen [Music]
or yeah I okay with the board me I mean generally when an as build is submitted which it just was a couple hours ago um the board likes to do another site visit and you know our peer review will look at and all that but for this particular
meeting you know I asking the board members would you like to do a walk sooner than later on the property set that up I think that would help a few weeks I think that would help with with what's what our discussion is
so yes okay I feel the same you saying have a a s sidewalk prior to the issuance of um or proving uh Peter to issue the issue the for no I wasn't suggesting that okay no
I would entertain a motion to to approve the Ary to allow the Ary to appr you would like that you can have that sir there's your motion and a second second
all right roll call vote Pete sure Larry yep Scott yes and Steve how do you feel I think it's good as long as the Building Commissioner gets the word and I vote Yes as well so I
encourage you to reach out to Kristen tomorrow and we'll set up a time and date for site walk um and I encourage everyone on the board if especially min ation but people on the board to attend as well so we can
all come to a census here as to where we're at what needs to be done and we can move on Perfect all right thank you thank you thank you thanks Steve
thank you have a good night everyone all right moving on the agenda um leaon reports I'm last you have CBA uh yeah the CBA is meeting tomorrow
night their regular monthly meeting uh got two continued public hearings um um on the agenda I think both of which have reported on in the past um that variance applications for 11 and 15 Sunset Drive
and then a u a special permit uh finding for 80 Northern Boulevard uh to raise an an existing dwelling and to build a new one new single family home and that is it okay uh Conservation Commission that
would be myself conservation met last night I'm trying to pull my notes up here bear with me uh two things that pertain to us were um that have been we've seen before one was the Newbury landfill
um the applicant was there to submit a moving of the shooting range if anyone does recall so we had a discussion on that and um they're there's going to be further a further meeting to Hash that
out as to location and um we I'll have an update on that in the future the second was a Sunset Club they U submitted an amendment to the uh current
o for for a pavilion and there was some discussion and there were were dimensions on the Pavilion other than the footprint and there was some conversation about water runoff and things of that nature and they are going
to get some more information to the Conservation Commission and we're going to see them at the next meeting so we we're also going to see if Kristen can add to this as well but we're also gonna be seeing the Sunset Club for an extension maybe next meeting or the
meeting after so um yeah actually both those projects um it's you know should really be coming to the board any day if not have come already um the towns project at the
landfill on um Boston Road is a modification to the site plan that was already approved by the board um but yeah the primary question with moving the shooting range on is to um
allow the placement of the solar panels to work on that site so it really is the town's project it's all related to sort of finally getting that effort to move forward in terms of getting those solar panels up and running so that is
something that would assuming or if it is approved by the Conservation Commission I think it would likely be seen as a minor modification for the planning board so we'll keep you posted on that um Sunset Club we Daniel and I
had a short meeting with um the applicant and suggested those uh modifications go hand inand in terms of their proposal to add the Pavilion um they have never closed out
their uh project with the planning board so um but it does expire soon so um that request for an extension um does need to come back to the planning board soon so
that um we haven't we don't I'm not sure when that is but probably the next meeting if not the following meeting and that concludes my Conservation Commission report and we'll move on to mvpc
CHR um yeah we haven't uh well we had one there was one meeting of the sort of active Transportation um that uh Dan was able to sit in on today I don't know if that's a quick want to give that quick interesting
tidbit so we met with the me mar Valley planning and they discussed Transportation there's a little group that meets basically every month to discuss Transportation projects and so what was discussed is we're still trying to move forward on the Route 110
Corridor and where it meets route one that's on their um it's on their list basically of projects to to work on for Newberry another one that's really quite fascinating and I hope takes some ground is they're putting together an RFP to
basically get a ferry on the Marram River to go between several communities hail Asberry and Newberry Port are going to be the nodes in the beginning so that was very cool hopefully that comes off um also as another plug um separate from
mvpc is the affordable housing board trust fund board informational meets again tomorrow through Chapa it's uh 12: to 1:30 just making that plug I know Christen had sent an email out to you guys so if you can make it it'd be great and uh Kristen if I've forgotten
anything please no I would just say aren't the fairies GNA be e EV they're going to so they're yep so that was one of the things they're going to be electric electric fairies one of the biggest issues is also getting conduits on the docks so that's all part of
it so we were imagining how cool it would be if there could be a ferry coming down the marac from ansbury into Newburyport and all the way out to Steve mansion's house on Plum Island because I would ride that fairy
seat i g to withhold comment well I mean uh St need a fairy one day hopefully You' be romanticizing about the barbecue that you're gonna need to have in your backyard Steve I want being on Plum Island my
backyard is small but uh the ferry will be docking in Newport I think at that's the Northern end of the island yep that's that was one of the nodes discussed well have a little electric bike to get on
down to um that's all I have Woody okay thank you and that leads us to the planers report oh no that was my planers report yeah that was it we canile it all into one thank you Chris yeah thank you the
only other thing I see on the agenda is meeting minutes has everyone had an opportunity to review the March 5th 2025 meeting news hearing nothing I'll assume that a yes does anyone have any edits or comments on the March fth meeting
minutes no comments okay and entertain a motion to approve the March fith meeting minutes 2025 make that motion second do I have a second well I'm abstaining because I
wasn't at the meeting so okay oh all right Larry so that's a second for Pete yes roll call vote Pete yes Scott yes uh Steve how do you feel well I
don't vote so I'll just say present and I I vote Yes as well so meeting minutes approved and seeing nothing else on the agenda I'd entertain a motion to adjourn if no one else has any on the comments
I'll move to adjourn second very good roll call V Pete Barry Scott yes Steve I don't want to talk about EVS anymore so present very good have a good night
everyone and all thanks thanks everyone thanks everybody appreciate it thank you thank you