Uh, I call the meeting in order of the Newbury Recreation Committee on Monday, September 8th at 6:37. Uh, we'll start up with members present. I don't know how to do this today. We'll start with Cindy. Which you think, Cindy? And then work our way around. >> Yeah.
>> Cindy Cer, leazison from COA. >> Uh, Daniel Jones, Mark S. Gabriel, >> Mike Crouch, >> John, >> Mary, Anastasia. >> Okay. Um, did we get a chance? Everyone get a chance to read the minutes for March.
>> Or am I on the wrong page here? >> Yeah, we had a meeting last June. >> It might be a typo. Can you just uh what I have for the minutes? I mean there was a meeting that I wasn't
we didn't have a meeting in August prior to that there was one in July I wasn't there so I wouldn't have been able to do the minutes and then prior to that was one in June the July one I think the conversation was
uh approving the man approving the field use for north um rush northeast >> was it a court fee >> I I wasn't there Um, >> I think it's like an hour and 22 minutes
up. I I should have done the minutes. >> So, your questions approve the minutes of last meeting. They're not ready yet. >> Yeah, you were taking notes. >> Okay. So, yeah, John's got notes. Um I
I'm trying to get together the the minutes going back to last year for um the town. >> So I just >> Why is that? They took them off or was they were all >> they were
they took them off. >> Okay. All of all of Janu All 25 put them on back in February. I added two more. >> Okay. Uh I think April and March and April. >> Yeah. All right. We'll we'll figure that
one out because I I talked to a guy from >> John. >> John and he said that you know just you know put them on a desk. >> He has Oh, he does have >> he has he has the last two and I did I think I CC is the um while we're on that topic. Is
the email situation solved? still checking me though. >> Not they >> I >> I've been getting them. >> But I think they're also CCing me.
So I'm getting like both >> That's right. Are they the same? >> Yeah, they are. >> I'm sure. >> Which is why like I keep like reply all. I think you're getting some of them too because or maybe I just replied to all and included everybody. Um, who would they
be coming from? >> Like, did every anybody get the Salsbury recreation committee? What? You know? No. >> All right. Um, >> so, um, our rec department, um, recent communications, >> uh, if whenever we want to get there.
>> Okay. >> Correspondence. Yeah. So, the way it just >> Yeah, correspondence. You're right. >> So, you're tableabling the approval of the minutes? >> We We're not going to approve the minutes. Um, and so we're going to uh table them until the next meeting.
>> Do we only owe July ones? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> We didn't have a we didn't have a August meeting. >> Awesome. >> All right. So, uh, Salsbury Rec Committee reached out to us. They're having problem with,
uh, an organized forprofit group playing on their fields. Just asked for feedback and like how how we handle it. I said we just generally call the police if we have an issue. Um we did have uh a non
uh we had some stuff with um non non for profit just like parents stuff and uh we haven't really had any problems with that. He uh the person also had questions on just general pricing and I gave them feedback on my research from
Rowley and West Newberry Port and I switch and the stuff that I did for our reperic stuff. >> Yep. >> Um good person to know. I can't remember the name off hand. See if I can find it. >> Um but general good back and forth a
couple emails. Um, good to have that sort of Rick department or Rick committee working for the town or was it >> the town of Is it the city in Abury or town of Abury? >> It's a city. >> I think they may, don't they?
>> Yeah, you're right. Um the skulls >> doesn't >> Did they mention her name or >> Salsbury? She She does have Salsbury. >> Yeah. >> Uh her name's Jen. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Roen
Roette. And do you want me to spell it? >> No. I Okay. Captain says, >> uh, she does have a Salsbury ma.gov email. >> Okay. >> Oh, Salsbury Parks Record Empowerment.
>> Yeah, solid title. >> It is a solid title. >> But did she mention what what the group was? >> Uh, for profit. >> She she just said local forprofit leagues. Yeah. They um it's been a thing
and it's all over again. They find the field where it's empty and they use it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Miley, if you communicate with her again, is what does their bylaws say in terms of use? Because if it's doesn't matter if you're profit or nonprofit, if
it's public space, it's public space. But if you have bylaws like we do saying regular use of requires a permit, >> Yeah. then they can they take more steps to um discourage the use of it or prevent that from but limit their use
for usually like cities have that built in um and if not I'm sure they will have that built in. >> Yeah. >> The only other correspondence was from Chrissy Bri about one of the meetings.
>> Oh, cool. Yeah, that's right. which went to recreation committee >> and we we told city and city was like absolutely we have snacks and the snacks. >> All right. So that was sent directly to the recreation committee which went to my email. So this stuff's getting forward >> as a recreation committee. We should
probably be on the second floor though. We have a little exercise going. >> You can do some meeting and I was on time today. >> We should do this meeting on on a walk. >> We can we can >> we only had a trail to walk on.
Hey, I'm not I'm not complaining. >> I have the fuel. >> I have no official MyRec requests. Uh I had a buddy reach out to me about ping pong. I've been playing ping pong just like a bunch of >> dudes.
>> Dudes playing ping pong. I said, "Let me know what you're thinking." Um, I had a member of the PTA reach out about using the fields. Wasn't sure on which one. It was very unorganized
stuff, but uh for a PTA um >> Thank you. cornhole competition to help create stuff. I think he's looking to do it in 3 weeks. I said it's probably short on time. So, especially since he has >> What day of the week are they looking
at? >> 28th, which we do have Rush planning, but we have >> we have a ton of space. Yeah. And it doesn't require much. >> Yeah. We have that little grassy null. >> Mhm.
>> So, I said, "Here's where you put the stuff in." And I said I'd re talk to you guys about whether or not this would need something uh since it's a one-off local father and PTA member if this would need official approval or if it's one of those things that like yes, we've
got the space. I could just say go. >> He has not put in anything yet. I don't know what he's going to do. >> Yeah, he did tell the guy. I mean, worst case scenario is we could do a um a Zoom meeting or something just to approve it.
I don't know if we have to, >> but there's no green space at the school. >> I assume PTA is the elementary school. >> Yeah. >> I don't know reasoning for banter. >> I mean, you get bathrooms, I guess, but yeah, I
>> Sunday. >> We do have two cornhole steps. They're in the garage. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Now, two cornhole sets. >> Mhm. >> Do we order two? >> We order two, >> but the the mystery ones never showed up, >> right? >> There might be two more in this building
or in some >> They're not in this building, I think. >> But they might be somewhere. >> Who knows where they are, but the company? >> Someone's in the backseat of someone's car. Joel at the storage facility. >> Someone's finding Cornwall
>> and the PTA has a couple, too. >> Those bills. The Cornwall bills. I didn't I don't think I saw them >> from Amazon. >> Yeah, >> they should have. >> You should just grab them up on that paper. >> Well, last year I made a suggestion that
those oneoffs one day use space >> could I think should be able to be approved by >> the person charging. So it doesn't we can have a quicker turnaround for the benefit of those groups particular when there's money not involved. There's
space in that soccer. >> There is soccer, but you can take two fields. >> They're taking two and 5B. So, >> we've got three. >> You got 1 3 4 and 5. >> There's running really far.
>> It's a big day. That's >> Yeah. >> Open up the back. Just >> all the parties know there's two things going on. We can go out the back. It's good. What time would they be doing? I think they said 10 to one >> was an option.
>> You should we just vote on this just to >> 10. Yeah, it's a it's a they requested it. I I I can see the bathrooms would be open. Uh there is a lock on the gate now and it's the right combo. >> Okay. I was going to ask >> and
um carry in carry out. I guess there's no trash barrels or I guess would be the only >> There's still a dumpster, correct? >> Still a dumpster. >> So, um I make a motion to approve the PTA cornhole
festivities on what date? >> 28th. >> 28th September. At one point in time they asked me about pickle ball they went to a tournament and I was like oh you know what do you think of oh you know bunch of people don't like pickle ball and I'm like it's not that easy you
got you only got three courts you know. >> Yeah. >> So it's like I know a lot of people sitting around watching you know unless you >> and that's why like I don't know if we're if this thing's going to go through or not but like they need to get organized. >> So let's we have a second on that
motion. Second. Um, any discussion? >> All in favor? Not. >> All right. >> Excellent. >> That is all I have. >> I feel good when we get back to you, you know.
>> Um, building. >> So, I was traveling this week and it was short week, so I haven't checked my emails, but um I would think Melo's in there. Uh last month we had three
checks. I put them down, but I don't have them. So, but we did receive payments. So, I'll update the Google Docs. We'll do what we did last year. I think that worked well for visibility and organization of what we're spending
and how we're trending. So, um >> question. Has anyone been down talking about the Melo bill? Um has that is is that been good recently? if people aren't throwing household trash in it. The reason I said it because the whole public >> um
>> I haven't seen any overflow. I'm not looking sticking my head. >> I opened it two weeks ago. >> Yeah, >> it doesn't appear to be. >> Okay, good. >> I usually peek in there once a week. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Anybody figure out what's in the suitcase? >> All right.
I'm not saying >> no one looked >> there was an after the new day there was an interesting collection of stuff in there I taken all the trash home from the kitchen. >> Okay. >> And because they actually use the
kitchen which was terrific and they're like oh this is beautiful. What did you guys uh I didn't do anything for? Oh, I have to take up my new birthday. I went by the car shop. >> Um how was your birthday? Amen.
>> Uh I was there in the morning for setup and then I went back in the afternoon for pickle ball. And they claimed they had 4 to 500 people. >> Excellent. Um it was the morning was interesting because they didn't quite have the you
know the tents up we put take tents down put tents somewhere else you know carry them across but they once they finally settled um it was great that they were vendors um actually it's something I want to talk
about I I'll I'll pigeon fold it in. It was a wall to paint on and the kids kind of went over and made designs and stuff and adults went over but it's probably two 4x8 pieces of plywood and we actually I had them shipped it to
the front of the building at the flag pole. >> Yep. >> So it's kind of facing the street and I've been in contact with the guy who kind of did that was his exhibit and he's like uh you know you know want to move it or take it down. He want to
store it for next year. I I said, "Can I put it at the library for a couple of weeks first?" So, it's going to go from the soccer field to the library, and then I want to talk to Tracy about putting it either in the hallway or in here. It's cute. It really is. It's kind
of a nice faxy. Um it's two 4x8 sheets ply and he's got he's got braces and stuff which which >> sandbags and hold it in place and >> but something like that cuz they were very I I was very they came at the last minute like Wednesday night they're like
we want to put steaks in not putting steaks out there and they were very good about that. Um so I thought it was great. Excellent. Why did that happen to be on
your desk? >> Oh, that's cool. That's how I envisioned it. I don't know. Maybe I saw under her desk. >> Yeah, I don't know what I was thinking, but I was very concerned about it being so high that it's going to be knocked over and I'm like that was kind of stupid, but there's actually a picture
floating around of uh Senator Tower painting on it. >> Yeah, >> the rain like no problem. I I haven't looked closely, but I don't think it's been a problem. No. >> Yeah. He never expressed that. >> That would be a problem.
>> That would be a problem. The uh the library, I think that >> Oh, so this was today. It's fine. >> Yeah. So, the library, I think, is going into the in front. Uh we've talked to them.
Um, but we'll see whether they want to do it again next year. But this was the council, the arts council, >> cultural council. >> Cultural council. Yeah, >> that's super cool. >> Hey, can I do it before you John? You you know you've seen just in case
anybody if this actually is watched by anybody, they might be able to see this, which a lot of times um I see these meetings and they pass stuff around, but people don't really see it. >> They don't see it. So they're like, "Oh, that sounds cool, but we can't see it." >> Yeah. Certainly.
>> No, I Sorry. Give the people what they >> Yeah. So, uh uh yeah, there there were fire trucks, there were uh the ecoin rescue was there, there were vendors, um there was little kids selling
lemonade, which was cute. Uh so, it was good. I beautiful day. Can't wait till next year. Awesome. >> Cuz you had a lot of people participating in pickle ball. >> Pickle ball. only had uh two nets set up
or three nets set up. I was at one net just in case people wanted to try it. Uh like eight or nine people showed up to I asked them to come and play. So there was always a game going on. There were people trying it on one court when people >> Good. Yeah. Yeah. So that that part
worked very well. Um I think they had problems with the music. The music didn't show up till late was the only thing I think >> because I think they weren't paying the bands until the band that was supposed to play at six o'clock or something like that.
>> I couldn't do karaoke. >> Do they do >> or wouldn't we should we should probably integrate that into our recreation committee meetings like every meeting we have one person has to sit up.
>> I quit. David, you start and then they'll never go. You could take this job and shove it. >> Get away with it because we're not paid. Um, all right. So, that's that. Uh, bills
and claims, application, uh, application fulfilled courts. I think we just talked about that. >> Uh, that's been settled. Update old business. >> Exit before you go too far. Yes. >> I got cornholes in the garage. I said that. >> Um they had asked about frisbee golf. >> Yes. >> And there are nine frisbee golf holes in
the garage. >> You counted them? >> Yes. >> Cuz we lost I thought we lost >> I don't think you lost. I I'm pretty sure I counted them. >> Okay. >> They're all broken. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Um the base rotted. >> Yep. >> And I just I if we're not going to use them, we should probably throw them out.
Well, I mean, it's just one of those things where if it's a, you know, steel based, it's circular. If we get something that was circular, little wider, bolt them in, and then reuse them because I think that >> I just, >> yeah, >> before I forget about it, it could be in the back of people's mind. I'm not sure
you want a frisbee golf on the sake area, but I'm thinking if you go down the hill, >> do you want the history or >> the fiveinut? It was a scout project. This is a nine-hole. Um, it was originally laid
out differently. Warren mentor as chairperson said, "Look, you you're taking up too much of the of the field space. >> Fields couldn't do it." So, he rep had them reposition. They were all supposed to be when I say temporary um to be
removed every uh fall and reestablished. Um that's the way they were designed. Um they were left in year round and at one point they couldn't it was too hard to take them out. They started falling apart. Three were up, two were up and
then they just took them home down. >> Yeah. >> Um we did bring in actually a per um I went up to Ames that has a 9-hole course and had one of their experts, you person who goes out to Devons to play regularly. He's in a couple of leagues.
Um he also plays over in Toppsfield. and I walked the courses there there and us we could do it wouldn't be a very good course because of um one we have to go around the fields and if the fields are in use it's just too cumbersome >> right
>> we could try to go through towards uh and one idea we had thrown out it was shut down was to bring it into and use some of the Triton property during the spring and sometimes during the fall the fizzed classes go for walks well here's
something that they could do uh again engaging in a different activity and do it up through the lower level. Springtime's tough because of the wetness between the properties, but come up the backside with the fence. Uh when we looked at it, the back road was still
open going down to the tarmac. But that was one of the problems. If you have a road going through, it's really hard to have a game going. But now that is closed off and parked up. We could look into um That's the word I'm looking for. Get get
it so they're movable and put new bases like a tripod on the bottom so that we could set it up and leave it. And again, this might be something um to work with the high school students with as an activity that
they can they can engage. It's it's a good sport. >> Yeah. the we I know that uh one of the things that we do one of the classes is uh lifetime sports. So it's you know cornhole, frisbee golf, things like that, archery. Uh and um I will say we
did do frisbee golf. We did have the frisbee golf like cages. >> Yep. >> Uh on tripods and we would set them up along the turf and we do that. So that is something that training already does. So, um, if there's anything you want me to ask,
uh, the athletic, uh, one of the athletic athletic teachers about >> Yeah. >> Uh, if there's anything specific, >> the question would be for us whether we want to hang on to it. But there's a course down there that >> I think it'd be a great extension of all right if particularly through mobile I
don't know if seniors again years ago before um your leadership there was a proposal of do we buy a set of discs and I don't know if anybody else plays but you can get an array just like golf clubs an array of this one does a a
slice to and this one does a a long distance so there's an array of weights of the discs But if it's something the seniors in particular as a way to get started and showing people, look, it's a Tuesday before soccer comes in, um, we
can set a bunch of them out and we can they can play because it's an opportune opportunity time. >> I haven't had anyone. >> Well, it's one of those things you if you don't know about it, you're not going to say, "Hey, can we do it?" Pickle ball has exploded, so everybody's seen that. >> But that was an ask.
It wasn't something that we >> Well, because I know we've been asked about horseshoes, >> but not about people. So, >> I think it' be great inquire if if additional uh baskets would be
advantageous to the school. >> Yeah. >> Or we can integrate. >> How many years ago would this have been done? Because I mean the technology I thought I think they're met. Yeah, those baskets are still actual chain. That's what you guys had. >> Yeah, that we had
>> Yeah, it would just be actual chain like full on you know the cages and so I don't think like I' I'd have to talk with them. Yeah, but you know if >> I'm want to work with them
>> have maybe set up maybe talk about setting up a course that's easy for you know the high school to access >> set probably work together on setting up a course for you know the general public to use as well as you know >> training athletic
stuff. >> That would be the only other thing is if it's not school land then we probably can't >> Yeah. >> It would what? It would not be available for the public, you know, have to >> during certain hours, but now that's why we use it up at at our place because they walk. >> Have you you have your classes ever gone
up to the field? >> We have not, but there's like three or four different trails from the training property to the field that I have walked. >> I don't think they can legally leave. >> I don't think >> unless there's like whole field trip and
everything signed. So that would be >> they do a walking class. I forget uh who does it every details can be >> okay. >> Um feel free to investigate.
>> I will investigate. And again, I wonder how much we can use if our property, you know, like those big empty areas that we never we talked maybe one post and work around the backside and then go down and then up and then towards it and that's
>> another thought might just call it. You just put a couple >> Exactly. It doesn't need to be a full 9. Most of them are 18. >> So Oh, I've seen Yeah. Like in you go up and down. It's really kind of cool. Yeah, it's a good way to get walking in
and safely >> and they might be junk, but to me the pedestals are rotted and in fact there's massive >> rust uh locks on. So that must have been a fact at one point. >> So you you' lock it underneath in place. They stay there >> and then they supposed to unlock and be
remote like grandma's attic. I was like whoa. >> All right. Um, anything else to see about business? Pickle ball. Ping pong. >> Ping pong's interesting.
>> Ping pong's a big hit at every town day. We actually put ping pong tables outside. Excellent. And they there was always someone on I was there probably 7 hours that day and there was always someone on the on the paintball.
>> Where? Outside. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. And then the funny thing was at the end of the day I wanted to leave and the band was still playing. So I I had to drag the people on tables across in front of the stage.
>> Are they like will someone come out and push? >> Yeah. Anybody want to give you a hand? No. No. >> So I kind of made it a little obvious but uh and they were fine. In fact, um we put him up when Sanjay was there for his his uh season ending party and he
wound up playing ping pong with us. >> Instructor >> with the ping pong is do they I know it's just infancy right now of the conversation but would they want to do it on a particular evening? >> No idea. You should find out from time
>> because I think it'd be great if we had a Thursday night adult pickle ball. >> Ping pong. >> Ping pong. Yeah. >> Pong and >> town property. >> No idea that you brought with you.
>> I bet I take with us. I did post a day at one point in time to open it and uh have you utes >> to it. >> The two utes >> it didn't that didn't go over
>> too well. I mean all you need is coverage. It's they're easy to set up put down and it's not going to break anything. >> No. >> Um they survived cross country transportation. >> Did they wheel something? Good
>> cuz I have a set. We do the same thing. We pull it out >> and they just go they go right in the kitchen. Yeah. So the only thing that would limit you I think is there's two tables. You can have eight people playing. If you get 12 people in there it gets noisy but
>> good problem to have. >> It is a good problem to have. So I would encourage Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Awesome. >> And that's you guys. >> Yeah. Yeah, it'd be nice to actually have people there in the place and stuff like that. I hate driving by the ceiling, but they all lit
up. >> Perfect. >> It is dark there though. >> Yep. >> At night. >> Yeah. I mean, what about the parking lot? >> Up and running. >> Yeah. Well, it's on the agenda. >> What is the landing?
>> Oh, okay. Um >> water bottle update. Uh essentially they're like they probably twice the cost. So you know six and then another six to go inside outside. But if you guys just wanted I got lost in the in the maze of why
people wanted it outside versus just going inside and using the uh water bottle filler. Um if anyone wants to keep that to a short discussion >> just convenience and not dragging money. Yeah.
>> Also, I think it's the fact that it's significantly more visible >> and will get used more than >> the only problem with that again and what they said was they would not throw up about the fact of having it run pipes underground. >> It initially came up at a meeting where
uh uh one of the members of the whiteboard asked if it'd be great to have for dogs. >> Really? Um, I personally I think it would be great indoors in inside partly because of cost, partly because of the the problems
we're going to run into in this in in the uh colder months that doesn't they're everywhere. >> They're great everywhere. >> Yeah. >> Someone's figured this out. >> Yeah. And whether it's a $10,000 solution, you
know, this is just one of these frustrations that >> So, are we saying no to outside or we saying what's >> the cost? Why would I be >> they roughed 5,000 for carpentry inside and be double for outside?
>> Yeah, I assume probably I thought they I think they think was so $12,000. But again, I'm thinking, again, this is just my opinion. I don't mind being overruled on it. I'm thinking if you're worried about dogs outside, there's probably the
cheaper method would be to put an outside spot from the basement going outside where they just shut it off in the inside and have water run outside. >> Okay. >> Which we use. So that's not the issue.
>> That's why one person wanted it. >> Okay. Um again >> there's this but at least for this >> this is not for you've been chitchatting we've been chitchatting on this for two years that I know of probably three. So
whatever happened happened but what do we want to do as a committee? Do we want to take it forward? Do we want to drop it? Do we want this? What do we want to do? >> Sorry. >> No I I like just go forward with with with something that we can replace um
>> water and this the particularly even the adults water bottles. >> So we're saying outside or inside? >> It it doesn't matter. >> Well, that's that's the question. >> So I'd like to get something so that there is a way to replace the water in your water bottle. >> So if it's outside, I don't care.
>> So you're more water bottleentric. >> Yeah. >> Are we more outside inside centric? cuz I can make the outside, but that's just me. >> Yeah. >> How dirty will that get? Like, are you going to fill your water bottle on something that's been >> If it's inside, then the kids have got
their cleats, walk on the porch, open the door. I >> mean, you can put a sign on one side. Water bottle filler inside to let people know that it's in there. >> I mean, there's coaches. I'm sorry. >> Well, I mean, as long as there's a way to, you know, weatherproof it in the winter, I don't see any reason why it
can't be outside. And it's not like it's, you know, it's not it's not like there's a bunch of trees blowing leaves into it and is going to come >> like covered. >> I don't I don't know. I >> I would assume.
>> No, it's be our discussion with you know what. So I will try. I don't I hate keep pushing this off, but I guess they can do it because they probably have less work if there's not. I will see if I can have a meeting with James and discuss two things. One is
because I >> So I think our collective vision, let's get a vision so at least Dave can >> Yeah. Present it. >> Present it. Is our vision outside under the porch. >> Outside under the porch water bottle >> fill. >> Fill up. Yep.
>> So I guess that's the question. Well, here's the thing. >> Like what? >> You can have you can have an outdoor bottle filled with drinking fountains and a dog water bowl. Like this is not three grand. >> I mean, there's work involved, right, to get it done.
>> Yeah. >> But it's no but it's no more work than setting up any drinking fountain in public anywhere. >> So, yeah. >> Right. Like any any any water, including our sprinklers, have to be drained before the wind. So we should but
sometimes I forget. >> Yeah, but like this is not a >> this is not a hard solution. >> Show that today. >> No, I saw that. I think it So >> so it just collectively we can go on. >> I would be totally >> is this what our vision is kind of I'm good with that.
>> I'm full with that. >> So I guess this is I'd like to see either one or the other. So, if we took and and I don't want to cuz I know that you don't want to get drinking water outside, but if we if we could possibly put something like that on the deck and
they would be good with being able to empty it. And I just, you know, I think it's an ask for us to to do the uh water bottler. So, I want to make sure that we get it right. >> And maybe maybe just maybe we leave
what's in there as is instead of doing two. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> If we do this outside, we can leave what's in there. >> Yeah. >> Drink out of that. >> And I I'm with you. >> But won't people be able to Can't you fill it or not? >> I can use it, but that's me.
>> Yeah. No, >> I mean if you guys want I because that you're you leave the building open. >> What? Like 7 to 7 or something like that. >> Yeah. >> Or that earlier as it gets winter and people aren't really there in the dark.
So they'd be able to go inside and access it instead of the And then you have to shut it off outside. >> Yeah. For 4 months of the year, correct? >> Whereas if you had it inside, it's 12 months of the year that it's available. >> It's that I don't think it's an either
or. >> What's Is it What's there water? Okay, the problem problem is do people know that they can go into the fieldhouse? It's not as not
as many people go know that it's open as we think they are. >> Put a sign. >> You can put signs outside, >> but you have to go >> duck bowl on the deck. >> There's always a duck bowl on the deck. um >> I I think having both is an option
uh is good and I think we need to do more things in there so people have understand that the building's open. Um there was a group that um was going cycling and I'm like you guys go and use the restroom but it's locked. It's like no it's not not
locked. So >> well that word travel fast. There's a group that rides on Friday and they they all go to the Tuesday turtle group. >> Yeah. >> He said, "You'll go in there, you take advantage of it." It's another thing about the cyclist. >> It's actually interesting. You sit and
watch the people to go in and use it. >> Yeah. >> And it was good for the bus drivers in the morning and you know, so it's a it's a nice asset. But going back to the water bubbler, I would like to see something that would refill water bottles and whether the
kids go in there to fill the water bottle. They're already going in to go to the bathroom. >> Yep. >> So that that shouldn't be the the sticking point. >> Um one would be less money. The other one is more money but more access and more visibility for people
particularly young kids to take advantage of it. All right. I'll I'll see if I can have a discussion. I just I I go up there and I talk to the
secretary and she's wonderful. But I always feel like I'm pushing it to say, "Hey, but if I could if I could talk to Tracy first, I would start with her." >> Okay. >> Just because sort of >> Yeah. >> the hierarchy, right, is to go to the town administrator and then she go to
department heads. I would suggest that you call email her. >> All right. >> Um and see if she can >> I've actually got a Tracy list that I I kind of unloaded in my mind today. >> Well, she's also willing to come to a meeting. I can ask her to come to the next meeting. I think then she could
answer all your questions. >> We could we could we could certainly give her an agenda, but I then I I went down a rabbit hole of do we report to the select board or do we report to Tracy? Tracy,
>> I would start with her. >> Yeah, >> I would. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> And not that we want to go around public works, but maybe we should pitch all our ideas to Tracy. >> I think you should because >> public works answers to Tracy, >> right? We should be talking to any
>> department, >> right? Well, they are hers. I think we should go right to her. >> Yeah. But when it comes to that >> when it comes to operational questions, it's easy enough to go and talk to the the office and they and they give you
because it would be like, hey, why are they putting stop signs on this? Hey, we want to put a no dog sign on uh one of the polls out at the fieldhouse. It's easy. Or why did that come down? It's easier for me to say, can you find
out why that came down? instead of going to Tracy and Tracy going to them. I mean, I have no problem doing it, but >> my understanding was that we should always be going directly to Tracy, >> right? >> And then she will talk to her employees. >> Yeah. I just don't want to like encumber
her with stuff that maybe But yeah, that's her role. So, okay. >> I would start with her. >> Okay. But I can certainly ask her to attend this October meeting because then you'd have her here and answer ask her a bunch of questions and she'll >> Yeah, that's kind of a sneak attack. I
mean, >> she's got plenty of time. If she can't make it, she, you know, there's other things going on. I mean, certain times of year, clearly she's got high priorities. So, right now, >> think, but right now, this might be a good time for her. >> It's not a sneak attack when we ask her to come, >> right? >> Yeah.
When we say we're having the meeting in her office when she's there. Yeah. The cameras are rolling. Yeah. >> We've got some questions. Will you show up? >> I I I like I in fact I like I I want don't want to commit to her to anything, but I'd like for us to meet with her
every 6 months or something. I think that >> and she probably >> Yeah. Yeah. And and I mean on her time we we met with uh Kristen in planning at like 8 in the morning and it just it's fine. Yeah. >> Stay up and get out of it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah.
>> Um >> Tracy's also up here at all hours. So >> yeah. >> Yeah. >> Wouldn't be a big deal for her to attend the meeting. >> All right. >> We could also make our meeting half an hour earlier or something like that. Make it
>> to Tuesday night. I mean that's another thing. >> Yeah. >> Put her first in the agenda and just ask the questions and move on instead of having to listen to us on the go. I love you. All right. All right. Um, okay. Uh, I'll bring it up to Jason. Uh,
book exchange little library. >> Well, I've I haven't heard anything from the uh what's it called? The uh community service club. So, I I they haven't I haven't heard anything about any uh
damages, any issues with it, any vandalism. Uh I don't know if >> there's usually books in there. >> Yeah, there's usually usually seems to be books in there. I've gone by and checked a couple times and every single time I've been there, I've I find books
have gone and new books have come. It seems to be getting used at the very least by the families who are bringing their kids to the playground. I think it was I think it was actually very good timing that both those were put in around the same time. Uh cuz whenever it
was ever go there, it would be like, "Oh, Mo Wellm's book is in there and uh Dr. Se's book is gone." You know, it probably it's like the I find that the family books, the young kid books tend to be swapping out a bit more. And every once in a while, I'll go and pick up
like a cookbook or a fantasy book or something like that. Bit more of my kind of reading. But I I find that the family books tend to come and go very quickly. The more adult books will come and go, but not as quickly. So, my guess is it's
probably the the kids at the playground. should have uh the instructors tell people to bring book to share >> cuz that would get the seniors thinking they walk by. It's perfect spot. It
really is a perfect spot. All right, DVDW made it schedule. That was me. I I felt bad about asking, so I'll move on to the shaving for the courts. >> Can Can I just throw out one thing? I know we throw it out every year around
now to cut the trees cuz the clovers are gone so it can sled again. >> Oh, yeah. I think we had that conversation. Did you have that conversation? There's It's been in in the works. >> Which which >> the know how you sled down that hill?
>> Yeah. >> Okay. Well, you can't cuz the streets. >> I know. And going down to the septic hill. I'm sorry. >> That's right. >> There's not much there. It's too long a walk to do the one down to Trident. And I've seen people go all the way to the rear to where we have I want to call
them sunglasses. They're not uh drew some chokes. >> No, I think that right by the street so it's visible. >> Yeah. Could you ask them to? >> Yes. >> Thank you. >> Sorry. But you can't ask them. You have to ask.
>> Yeah. It came up in a weird >> slot. Yeah. No, exactly. And I think that they said Yeah. I said I think there was a story that they did cut because like something growing there, but now they can't cut. >> No. No, they couldn't cut because there was birds there. The birds have moved
on. So now they can't cut. >> No. Bal links or whatever. The other fields are the bal links. >> Yeah. and spring and then they're >> but you can cup that area by by the road. >> Okay. >> Supposedly >> nice and wide. >> Yes,
>> they can dump some dirt here. We get a ram. >> But don't ask DPWS trees. >> I like >> the community has been asking for it. >> Yes. >> Uh many people who grew up >> or have lived here years ago, that's the place to go.
>> 100%. >> Yeah. >> Okay. I'm done. Um, I've got a request about the um um uh council on aging about and I think
probably the uh the guys that do the the uh pickle about Japort that they really needed. >> Yeah, I think we had already talked about getting that So that that change a little bit. Cindy
has a tarp >> like a real tar. >> Oh, like a >> a heavy duty tarp that >> like a canopy >> could potentially go up at the beginning of the season and stay, >> but it will the wind there will ruin it eventually.
I mean, I' I've paid for a couple of different things. >> I've already ruined one umbrella, maybe two >> with two umbrellas down and two pop-up tents. Yeah. >> Yeah. All right. In fact, someone just donated one. >> We're also >> it's it's almost too late now. I mean,
it's No, it is. Yeah. But so clearly for next year, I mean, if we could come up with >> the real solution, then that's wonderful. >> Again, >> this Cindy and I had talked about it offline. Um,
we should vote to ask the town to put up her talk next spring maybe and just vote on it so it's it's out there for >> long last and harsh weather. >> I mean, it's a big one and it's heavy duty. It's better than a pop-up tent.
And when DPW has put it up, they really secure it. But, you know, it's not going to take much. >> Yeah. >> It's not I mean, it won't be like you put that pop-up tent up within 30 minutes. >> Well, and one of the problems with the
pop-up tent is you're putting it up, you're popping up every day and popping down every day. And that's not so much the umbrella. They're made for that, but >> we need a permanent structure. >> Pseudo permanent. I I I think the danger's gone of losing someone u
to heat stroke. >> All right. >> But that's for this year. 26 is >> But I I I think if we if we wanted a work order to get processed, we should vote that the town has to do something while we're trying to figure out maybe
in the Tracy meeting, >> can we spend 20 grand and get like a real cover? And there's also it' be nice to have a bench at the playground or a picnic >> area. I think focusing on the uh um cup. >> Yeah, the shade structure is is a
priority for a lot of different reasons and particular you put the stions in and then they put the u the material up in the beginning of the spring. because >> I only had 19
left over at the end of >> That's actually a question I had for Tracy because you have a revolving fund, right? Yes. >> So the money that comes in is from soccer and lacrosse. So the money that goes out should be for soccer and lacrosse
>> field. more picky. >> Our stuff is my understanding is for the stuff at the field. >> Yeah. >> So, this is another great reason to have her come cuz maybe my understanding is wrong, >> but >> I still don't understand
>> this. The the soccer and lacrosse people are giving the money, but >> they should see the benefit of >> well the money that's being spent. >> So, right. So the maintenance of the fields, the receding, the >> But that's that's not exactly how those accounts work.
>> It's more the 50 grand that comes out the 50 grand that comes out of town meeting. >> Correct. We get 50 grand each from the revolving fund >> and then what we don't spend goes into another account. >> Yeah. >> And it keeps them rough. I so it's my understanding that your
$50,000 should be used for to maintain those fields for soccer >> not for a shade structure for >> no pickle ball >> basketball I don't think so I think it's we have >> perview of the entire field that money >> but again I think that's another
>> question go over with her >> I will feel a lot better >> same thing like >> the purchasing the cornhole sets Yeah. >> Using the revolving fund money. So that's the is a no. So is a no.
>> Did you ask her about that? >> I did. >> And she said it's a no. >> She said you shouldn't have used those funds for cornhole sets. That's not related to soccer in the props. You see? >> Uh so all of our funds had to go towards
>> so like towards maintaining the fields, right? or like the field test stuff because the the people that are using the >> that was a different >> and I could be misunderstanding it. >> Okay, there was a different bond. >> Okay, dependency wasn't but >> but it was under our purview to to >> but like you could go to her and say we
would like a shade structure. Is there a way to find funding to pay for a shade structure and she will assist you with that but using the money from the revolving fund I don't think is is allowed. >> All right. So let's again
>> what does it cost to do maintenance on the fields the fields alone >> we we do it's like 14 if you go to the Google sheet >> from last year >> I think 16
>> I think was not >> but it will it will tell you >> but we also >> fall allocation >> yes >> and spring allocation those allocations. >> Okay. So, you're looking at 13 14 somewhere around there.
>> 14. >> So, I think you can probably get away with like the water bottle filler because that's going to benefit the people that are using those fields, right? >> But cornhole sets or pickle ball equipment is not benefiting the people
who've paid the money into using those fields. >> Yeah. But I don't I >> All right. Well, I think it's wise to >> Let's clarify. >> Yes. because perhaps I'm misunderstanding it. >> But we haven't been doing that for the last 3 years. Just saying. >> Which is a problem. >> Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. I don't
know. >> To me, it's let's make this mant or central central street fields >> as wonderful as they can be for the entire new year. >> I think you guys can probably during budget season, you can ask her for a an
expense budget. Well, that's that's what we've been we've been asking for at least 5 years now. >> So, you submitted budget? >> No, because we don't have our line item is limited. >> We need a new line item for us to do anything. >> That's not related to the
>> conversation for Tracy. I think it's wise to have her come and she can explain that because perhaps I'm misunderstanding. >> No, it's not. >> You're from what I understand you're you're very close. Yes. But the the problem has always been is they changed
what we could use the revolving funds for >> to field um field and fieldhouse stuff. >> Right. >> Right. >> Would you consider pickle ball equipment field? >> I'm not going to go into the minutia. Yes. I
>> Right. >> And I've asked repeatedly how do we do this? and she said, "You need to start the process in the fall for us to get >> so she can create a line item." >> Guess what? It's fall.
>> Well, the budget is this coming like November >> packages. Yes. >> And I don't need to take that on you. It's just what we need to do. We go back to our minutes. >> Can I have an ID, please? >> Every year for the past four years, we need to do this. We need to do this. By
the time she sets up the January, we should have our budget. budget until we know what our expenditure is. >> So I think I but I think maybe you add that to the agenda with her is talking about like an expense budget for this
committee outside of the revolving maintaining >> so that you can say things like oh we want to have basketball or you know whatever. We were told years ago that that the money and
everything that we did, we were talking about putting a ice skating and we were told that we can't we were going to put the ice skating link at the library and we were told we couldn't do it if it was for the field out there. Yes. But if it's up there,
no. Okay. >> Well, I say everybody's right. Yeah. Yeah. >> Everyone's right or no one's right. I'll ask I'll demand. >> I just have a little question. When we go through our expenditure report, we
have an $850,000 credit and debit. >> Am I reading that number right? Doesn't hit 850,000. >> $850,000 I over 100. Yeah.
>> I would need to see your crunch. Let's print we have $850,000 >> this group. >> No, >> I don't. >> So that's the spendability. >> Yeah.
>> That's some kind of liability. My understanding is every year that we don't use our funds and we basically only spend say half >> the money goes back into this fund and >> the money goes off to the side
>> and and the only way that we can get use of that is to go to town. >> Correct. >> Okay. >> So whatever we don't spend however we spend it whatever and we don't spend it. We we haven't spent really anything in my opinion. We've spent little things,
>> trinkets. I mean, we we have >> But that's okay. That's okay. Just >> we have spent to the limit before. We have >> Well, that's nice. But the last three years, we have >> No, but we were doing projects that And that's okay. But we we haven't we haven't spent half of it in the last 3
years. So that's roughly 70, right? 2020. Yeah. 50 >> 850 75,000. I don't know if that's >> I think it's like I thought it was like $149,000. >> I don't know if that's fully true
>> because a start date and an end date. >> What's the start? What's the start date and end date? >> Yeah, it's like 149,000. I could be wrong. That could be that could be joint. Um what's the recreation and something or other? >> It's open.
>> Who did you get that from? >> Recreations 500. Did she have the debit >> in the ching? Is not >> I don't think it was cons. >> What's the do we have an understanding
of general costs? I know that we've done a I mean this is something that be sheld but I know we there are plans for Kentway. Do we know what that costs so that we I mean if we have $850,000 maybe that is a
start to clearing that stuff and getting us let that land open so that we could potentially start building something on it so we could put B excuse me put baseball field like not an insignificant amount of money and if >> that is true >> right like
>> that's if that's true yeah absolutely >> and if that is what the >> No last year we spent 36 I think Yeah, >> we spent more last year. >> I want to say 75% 80%. We did better because we did buy a number of of things along the way >> for the
>> in general it's it's we're not 90% which in in most places uh you you want your budget to be close your budget because we don't have a budget. >> We have a pot of money that we just and you know
we're going to get on that straight now. >> All right. Who's Who's in charge of figuring out where that is? How much do we have? >> What's that? >> I think as Tracy all that, >> of course. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> And invite to the meeting, we'll get an
updated report from Ann. >> We'll I'll make copies. I'll socialize it. And then I'll also bring what we did last year and the year before so that we have >> comparison >> comparison year over year of what we
spent. Now um the monies that we take in actually go into a different fund. >> So we don't that that plus and minus doesn't count. We just have 50. >> So I kind of don't care what we take in if that makes sense. Well, and we we
>> we should maybe, but >> no, actually we we shouldn't we should be looking at >> No, because we we our our job one of our jobs is to determine whether what what we want our cost recovery to be and that
and that's it. Our job is is do our costs what we charge people to use our facilities does it cover the cost for us to maintain them? We're we're not we're not in a business to profit necessarily from our fields.
>> We had this discussion a couple years ago. I agree with that, but I also agree that there are private groups that are using our fields to make money for themsel. So, we have a private
organization that says, "Hey, Newbury doesn't charge any money for their fields compared to and we don't compared to other places. We're going to lock in those fields so other people can't use them and we're going to make money on it." That's my feeling. how a business
runs their operation, profit or nonprofit because I think you get hung up on that tax to tax um status because that's all it is. How they run their business is how they run their business. And I don't believe anybody at this
table should would want the government to say here's how you need to run your business. If you look at the pro the uh business model of for example C coast uh flag football, anybody want to guess how much their
executive director makes? >> Hopefully zero. >> No, keep going. >> No, I should make 80 $80,000 a year at the last filing. That was a couple years ago. How much does Triton Youth Soccer make? She makes zero. The prior person
made zero. So profit nonprofit is just a tax status. How they raise their money, spend their money, that's between them and their board of directors or their corporation. Our job is we set a price that we think is fair. If we if we want to raise the price for for nonprofits,
great. You can do that. If they don't come back to use us, then we don't get that revenue. And and >> well, I still think we should increase prices because I don't exactly know what is. I know we've we've gone circ our
cost recovered which is what >> but I know what that percentages. So >> how much cost >> but we're not even spending the $50,000 that were allocated. >> Yeah. Like I said that money goes into a different bucket which you said was the right thing to do. It goes into a
different bucket. So our char we can't we shouldn't be charging $50,000 for somebody to use our fields when it's only costing us $37 or $37,000 to maintain and take care of the fields the insurance we had a bond we could be
paying off the bond whatever it takes >> and those elements are not we don't have that visibility so we might be in the hole we might not be I don't know >> we we're not in the hole because we have our spreadsheets from Ann every every quarter saying here's how much we spent
here's Here's how much we are allocated. We're allocated every year $50,000. We've never in the last five or seven years, we haven't even come close to that. >> Well, we have we've used it all at certain times to fiddle to finish projects, but I also I strongly look at
some of these groups and this is our history. We say we're bringing up prices and there are certain profitable groups that come in and say we're not going to be able to do it. We have uh we're not going to we won't be able to do
scholarships for kids. It's going to be a horrible thing. And we raise the price. We said the reason we're raising the price is because we want you guys to just use the fields for these certain hours and so that we have fields available for people in town during
certain times during the year. And they came back and they just booked the complete fields from morning to night so that no one else could use them. And they told us that they said, "Well, the reason we did this is that we want to make sure that no one else another group
doesn't go in there fields on us." Um, and you know that's that's fine, but don't come to us and say that >> you're we're going to lose a scholarship. >> That's a business decision on their but that's you can't make a business
decision on their their part. >> We don't want >> we're in fiscally at 26, right? >> And we have not increased prices at least in the last four weeks. Yeah. >> I don't even know when was the last price increased when we changed over. I think we did.
We've done it twice. >> Yeah. >> My question is have our costs gone up and by how much? >> Exactly. >> Probably double and I don't think that is we've lost a couple of the bills that we're not paying anymore.
>> But okay. >> So that we're not paying those things. Who is >> the town? another department is >> so okay >> but our budget is our strategy >> but we don't have a budget you just said >> I exactly
>> and if there's costs associated that may not be passed on to us so yeah we have extra but there's still costs associated with maintaining those fields and the fact that we have not increased prices is crazy period I don't care what you
say it's crazy it's been four years that I know of and I just think it's crazy. So maybe I'm the only one who thinks it's crazy, but >> I say I told you. >> Thank you. >> I did a price comparison. >> You You did a lot of research on that.
>> I I've I proposed months ago. >> Yeah. >> Certain price increases to certain groups uh and like rearrange the groups. I got zero feedback. >> So I sent you stuff. So So >> I didn't see any feedback on. So tell tell me
>> I I I did get you you did send me the um the proposed guidelines to the two different guidelines >> and I merged those and sent those back for feedback >> and I got nothing back from anybody else. >> Check your Google doc. >> All right doc which is
>> so question you >> merge it too. We'll talk about it. What what is the in general let's say >> Raleigh charges 50 an hour for field. Yep. >> That is the only group that charges that much. >> West Newberry is a little cheaper than
us, but they have one field and it is not in great shape and they don't keep it up. >> Could they have bathrooms? >> Huh? >> They have bathrooms available. >> They do not. >> What What field increase your >> They It's next to a bunch of stables.
>> No. So you're talking about Pipes, Dave, >> the the field. >> Yeah, >> it's been a long time since I've looked at this. I don't know. >> Um Salsbury is roughly right around the same where we are. Gabe Switch is right around the same where we are. They all have a different structure for um
you can find >> local 501c's versus for for profit as well. >> How many kids from each town uh in Salsbury? They also do uh you can in le of payment do volunteer work to maintain the fields. Um they uh Hamilton wenham I
don't mean to cut you off but it's Hamilton wenham if you have uh >> well we don't have to increase but you should >> but but we can we I'm not talking about a huge increase. It is a little bit of an increase to put us at a the fact that
we have six high quality fields all next to all on on site >> with basketball with playground with fieldhouse with bathrooms >> with nice parking >> parking >> and parking >> and we allow lights and leave their equipment out there all year round. They
there's no fields in the general area which are in nearly as nice an order as we are. >> And there are you can go across the governor governor I'm sorry I shouldn't say that you go across the governor's academy and the price to rent that deal for an hour
>> you know they they whole water effect the spring thing they were well we had to go for a place somewhere else and they go that's a lot of money like yeah it is we got a a great deal. Yeah. >> Um I I >> and my suggested price increase is not for >> it's not for Newberries people. It's not
for local local groups. It is only for um essentially >> like one or two of our local one or two of our groups. Russia is already paying 25 an hour. It would just be for the lax group which is charging an astronomical
amount of money for their participants. Like, yeah, they have a scholarship, but they also charge for a ridiculous amount of money to participate. >> I don't cross. >> I I don't like when they try to guilt us
into >> Yeah. >> um scholarships. That's their business model. They don't have to do that. That does not reflect fields. >> Field like field times like we can't help the weather. Like I get that. >> Yeah, I understand. But that's just
bumping them up to the status of a rush. That was pretty much the only change. And also in there is significant more detail about like the basketball courts times because our previous one was very sketchy and very confusing. >> Y
>> and so like understanding the difference between fieldhouse use and basketball courts and parking lot usage and that so like it's all like it's different pricing based on different usage. Y >> um so I'd love to get some feedback on
this like and then I'd love to put it to a >> No, ask let's vote on it in the next meeting and just >> So if we do vote on it, we have to bring this to the select. >> Yeah. So let me do this. Let me talk. It's on my list for Tracy.
>> Select for like actually I think >> I don't know changes to our policy. >> Yeah. And if it's okay for us to >> we had we had two policies that >> overlapping. >> Yeah. So I mer merged them in one.
>> So So why don't why don't we do this? >> Why why don't we do this? We'll put them in like a PDF and we'll email it to everyone that may not have Google Docs to know how to use it. >> I can PDF. And we'll also um do both of
those in a PDF so that people I I I trust you Mick but it's like yeah I guess I want to >> Yeah. Let's let me ask let me ask Tracy about about the thought of how she feels
about giving those those groups a bump and find out you know cuz that's ultimately where you know she'll have a recommendation come back to us >> and we could do is what's everybody else
doing and Mick already did that so we're we're anticipating the first >> and it's sort of our responsibility to go to her saying here we've done research here's what here's what our budget is. Here's what we think it should be. And I think a lot of the numbers did make sense. My biggest concern was um if
somebody wanted to run a tournament, we at originally we had it at $5,000 for the weekend. And that was nice when we didn't have police or fire. And the last time a tournament was held, police and fire came in each at about 4,000 or whatever. So we're talking close to 15
grand just to try to hold a tournament. then people aren't using the field. And we used to have a very successful lacrosse tournament uh actually was run by Pucket >> um that brought in money to the recreation committee but also raised
money for uh the lacrosse program at Pucket. The prices we have it now I've reached out to different groups. It's not worth it now. Now, when you have fire has has to have uh um an ambulance on call on site with two people, please
anywhere between uh two and five officers in 4-hour shifts. So, it's a full day, one day event, you're still talking 10 grand and you're not going to get up with u the fees by the time you pay your officials and all that. So, yeah, I had a problem with that just
because there are other events that go on in town that don't have that presence. They they're not paying the that they're they don't have that amount of officers. They don't get What drives me crazy is the fire station is within
a/4 mile of the field. So, there was an issue that and we don't have a we don't have a you know the uh defibrillator because we were talking about doing that. Um, I don't know. We'll we'll uh Let me let me run this by this and uh
we'll figure out what we're going to do. All right. Um, do business. >> Dave almost makes the what scene. >> Yeah. We lead with that and then we say, "Oh, by the way, can we get this?" Oh, sure. >> No, no, no. I I agree. I just
>> We have It's the elephant in the room. the elephant of uh L Street um being thrown about as the site for the council building
>> street the property behind the library that's is oneway >> well there's two different sets of properties there there's a Kent way property but that's property >> county now if it's different I
Yeah, >> they're going to they want to take one proposal out there is take some of the land that the uh back in what 2000 >> Kent way >> Kent way >> okay but the plan is to take our way >> well I I don't know that the I don't
know what the current plan is when >> but we're talking about our campway right >> right now I'm I'm talking about property that's next to the library that the town owns >> okay >> there is property might there's property on this side of the library which has
access to walkway. Uh and there is property behind the library behind the baseball fields that has access via northly constructed way just right there. Yeah. Yeah. Back there. >> No, I know it's there but I I've never 5
something acres. >> I've never heard one way so I'm confused. >> Yeah. I think L Street is is where the library >> is the library. >> Yeah, it's Lent Street. >> Okay. >> The acreage that is under the
jurisdiction of the recreation committee uh was bond was raised with the warrant from the town saying explicitly that it was to be used only for fields. And that's what the town paid for that property with the caveat that it only be
used uh in in the warrant for fields. >> Does it specify the kind of fields? >> Uh ball fields. >> Oh yeah. >> Yeah. >> So I don't have to baseball whatever. >> I think they were looking at baseball fields. There was the idea back then at one point
>> softball fields to be fair. We should build softball. >> Well the softball fields are behind the Berry Elementary. That's what we put in back there. There two fields. >> But it's not in our program. >> But it's not exactly. >> We should have been in our program. What's that? >> So if you want to play baseball, you have to go through different entities to
for softball. >> Yeah. You have to go through the school. You have to go through select >> select board for upper grade. >> Yeah. >> Then us. >> It really is silly. >> But no, the thing is uh for Pearson >> right now Pearson is a select board. if
we were to put fields back in there. I had a call with Tracy years ago and Alicia and said, "Wouldn't that be kind of silly if this field is under this jurisdiction, this one?" And they said, "No, no, they would all combine." So, the whole idea is consolidating what is
appropriate for us to have jurisdiction over for all of our activities because somebody want to use a golf ball field. I mean, it's not even on Nobody knows when that ball field's being used except for selecting when they come to us asking about it.
>> What the the one at the lower grade or >> right here pierced the pierc someone had a lock on the door the other on the gate and I'm like does it seem like >> they had a lock on the gate because >> people like they know >> Yeah. And they all over the
baseball field. >> I know who it is. everyone else knows who it is. And it's just one of those things where they just say, "Well, we can do it." And so just requires someone saying, "No, you can't do it."
But yeah, I I I know the players and um yeah. >> So So the story is I'm not sure what the current plans were or are for a potential um building back there and
access. I know people have complained that there's no way we could put ball fields back there because of Kent way, but there's actually other ways in which we can get access off of uh Lunch Street, both the back side of the library and the front side by simply if they didn't put the um uh chargers
there, which isn't the best spot for them, but there could have been a way which we move the fields about 10 ft. You have access to the back of the fields without having to interrupt the environmental. Also the environmental stuff that was under the old environmental right
regulations. The new ones have changed whether we like it or not. And uh water um uh nationally at the federal level wetlands are not connected to a larger
bottom of the water are going to be can be filled in and that's not connected to a larger body of water. >> Does that land right behind you? >> Yeah. But there's there's ways to if you were to at one point you could if you to fill
in that area you'd have to create more. You can actually create more behind uh Newberry Elementary which town owns a big parcel back there that is already uh freshwater wetlands. Sorry I brought it up, but
>> my ears to work when I see one. >> Good >> Yeah. >> No, I think it's a great idea cuz if they put a COA there and it's big building, I won't have a very far walk from my house. So, I'm all for it. >> And you yourself too.
>> I'd be there to open the door. All right. Good. It's true. in while while we're at it. >> Sorry, the um for Tracy, I'd like to update this
membership. >> Yeah. What's What's a quorum that is%? >> Yeah, but there's >> I was chatting with Bill before there's different numbers. I'd like to know what that
>> I think we can. >> What that means >> what what that means is >> No, no, no. I I >> I don't want it to be that. I want it to be the standard. What is >> typically it's you have six people and
three is a square, >> but it's not 50. So, it's going to be four people. It's going to do >> right. But we seem to always see I just can't seem to find it. I just blank that seems very
>> the problem is >> he picks not at the beginning very >> if you go through the open meeting laws regulations >> that once a person has been assign once the board has been filled any absences not absences any people resigning from
that board or or terminated from that board still counts as a member of that board until it is filled or to the next session. So you can have any number you want. So let's say six. A quorum would be four. If somebody um
uh resigns, it's still considered six people and you still need to have four. That's the new Massachusetts open meeting laws. >> Okay. >> So if we have six, but two people
resign, it's still four. >> And to Yeah. So you got to fill the seats, but going to nine people on the committee doesn't help you because you no >> cor's going to be six. >> You just can't have that many options. >> The reason that one half was put in is
at one point in time town politics was quite um uh what's what's the word I'm looking for? Divisive. And think of it this way. Considering you've had seven people, four would be the quorum. And the idea of putting a
half in there is to prevent the minority to become the majority. So if there's seven people on the board, four is a majority. Two people uh and there's an issue that's split four to three. Two of the people who are for something aren't
there. The three and there's five people at the meeting. That would mean the minority, the three could outvote the majority that you know these four people want something. We know that they've already taken up internal vote count. These two people are against it. We know
that two people don't show up. Now, if it was um a simple majority, >> the minority takes over and that that would defeat the purpose of of >> I got it. We're good.
>> But that verbage is strange. I have four. Four. Four. >> That's because we have six. >> We need four. >> No, we needed five. >> Five times.
>> Yeah, we we've always needed five >> right now. Um, right now. >> Yeah. >> No, here's what happened. >> Because we're missing two more people. >> No. No. Let's back up. We had seven last time. One person left
>> that seat count. So it was seven. Half of seven is three and a half. Correct. You can't have half. So it goes up to >> plus one. >> Okay. >> Got it. >> Four and a half. So that makes plus one. >> Plus one. And that way it's always
funny. That doesn't Yeah, >> that's not what you just said. >> That's that verbal is not the exact >> Oh, can I get this back to you? Cuz I just turned over. >> Um, all right. I will discuss all this stuff. >> This verdage is supposed to be that, but it's it's not that sense
>> at that point. >> Talk to town council. I could I could at that point >> for my resation. >> No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
>> Well, yeah. Just make do with it. >> But now you can't resign cuz we need you for a whole year. You that form? >> Yes. >> It's almost like ball and chain around. >> Uh, anybody else want to talk about
anything business? >> I I I do. I I've got a Tracy list. >> Okay. We should get >> together. I I >> Yeah, >> we don't have to talk about >> No, but I'm saying we should we should go together. >> Yeah. Um, and one of the other things I missed the meeting last year where we
talked about uh the pickle ball people renting gubs >> and I I'd like to leave the pickle ball people leaving renting gubs out of the discussion, but let's let's have an agreement on if
Cindy wanted to rent Peter Hall um recreation wanted to rent Peter Hall or some other or something goss uh we got as far we got the u liability w you know the
waiver and just it it kind of fell apart in a bunch of things and I I think for the good of all we should walk that one through one more time like what is it that we would need? How would you collect money? How would you how would
you disperse money? Um, how do we collect money and call it income? All that stuff. I should be on the Tracy list. Okay. Tracy list should be defulated. Shade trees along the parking lot side of the basketball
court. >> I I disagree with that. >> What? Um, I don't think it solves the problem. >> What solve the problem >> for shade trees? if we're putting up the um tarp that's going to provide the
shade. >> Yeah, there's trees up there. It's also it's a natural wood look. >> Yeah, I mean our varieties going across that area. I don't know if that's a possibility or whatever, but if you did something like that, then it would be natural.
>> So, >> well, sort of because it depends on how small our bodies are and if one dies, it doesn't it breaks it. It's If you ever done wind blocks out west in Texas, um you know, you have three or four rows
of trees. So there's it's a block, not just a one lane lane. >> I I mean, I talked to James at one point in time, east and west. I guess the with the where the the main basketball hoops are for the big court, those two ends,
that's where the wind comes from. It's one or the other. And that would be great for our divide. And I said, "If we put little ones in now, you know, like 10 years from now, so problem solved." Oh, get some big ones. >> All right. Speaking of that, did you say
anything about the flowers at the field? >> I did. >> Did you? And the recreation >> pickle ball people had a little garden this year. >> Oh, yeah. I think I saw a >> well taken care of and it's going to expand. >> Looks nice.
>> I like gardens. >> Yes. Someone sabotaged the sunflower, though we had a awesome sunflower >> and the head was I I didn't know if he had dead or whatever. >> The head actually was cleanly cut up and it might probably took it. It wasn't ready. The seeds weren't ready. I mean, it was still, you know, kind of in that
>> it was just it was such a >> I thought he did it because I was like, "Oh, he must have deadheaded it or something." >> Yeah. The principal guard. What do you mean? >> Yeah. But I didn't know if there's something wrong with it and that's why it was >> No, no, no. It was fine. It was fine. It really was cut. I mean, it's a clean cut. >> That's too bad. But it everything
everybody feared like it's not going to get water and it was well taken care of. And I what I think what we're kind of scheming is like every other fence grouping. So there' be like a 10 foot in this zen. We're going to put annuals in.
>> Oh. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, >> I always whichever way it's supposed to be, I would say the same thing cuz they always mess it up. >> I mean, we've had fun with it, but we never really asked permission cuz I
mean, you can always >> Yeah, let's put a bubbler in while no one's watching >> or or a walking trail. >> Good luck. Yeah. >> Um, since we're still we're still live on this and we're talking about Tracy's stuff, I'm going to
>> if you're come there talk about what she thinks the feasibility of actually doing a basic walking trail around the place with stone dust and just an idea, you know, I'm not saying we do it or not. >> No, that I again when the three of us
all talked about this >> Yeah. when we talked about it, it's just like this. I I took pictures. I was in Medway or something and it was like a next to the Council on Aging. There was a tap that looked like it was worn as
opposed to constructed and it had some stone dust in it and it was like it looked like the Olympics. There was just people walking around and I'm like this is all we need. >> And you know, sure it had some weeds but it was it was safe. it was level, you know,
>> and there's an issue with irrigation where you have a wet spring and it it makes a little cut through it. You just >> Well, so I came back and again, this is something three of us are very interested. When I came back, I'm like, "Well, maybe we don't go all the way around the fields cuz like if it's
soccer, you know, they're going to go right behind the goal or something, >> but maybe we just go out, go around and, you know, get down the hill and come up, which kind of defeats your >> they should be sight minus sight to the street. >> Yeah, I think it would be nice to to do that loop >> cuz I I walked it off. It's a half mile.
We go around the soccer field. It's a half a mile. If we kind of went down the hill, you know, it could be 3/4 of a mile, but maybe we just go like if there's always a space between the two fields, like is it okay to put a walking path between the two fields? maybe the I
asked before there was an issue with cutting grass, but now I look at it if we did it along the walls and along that fence and they don't have to worry about cutting that section of grass, you know, so I their main concern was this a
couple years ago or whatever that it was uh their operations cutting. But I'll I'll I will talk to Tracy and then they can feed down that and we'll we'll see what happens. >> Um, anyone else want to say anything?
Everyone had a good summer so far or I guess it's >> make you Oh, that's right. >> I think I this one. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, actually, so
this is a half mile like within >> 20 20 ft on a half mile. >> So, but you know, could you get down there? Could you go around here? City's got would like people to be seen from the road. Like if if if I fall down over here,
>> can you see? Yeah. >> Oh, that's actually not a bad idea. >> Um >> I cannot make a six. Now that we can help or November 3rd, I signed up for a base class.
>> Oh, cool. How fun. >> Um, so we need to build a wall. Can we build a wall? >> I've never done it, so I >> It took a while. >> That was great. That was solid. >> Yeah. Indoor or outdoor? >> Uh, outdoor. >> Really?
>> Yeah. >> So, we're repointing stuff. The seventh >> uh retaining wall like patio. >> Oh no. >> I can do basic basic but they're on the 14th. >> You're talking about
>> so non students can [Music] >> so the 7th has the conservation commission meeting. >> You guys are checking. We have a lot of good welding. Yeah. Are you checking availability? >> So this is the town calendar.
>> That's what I was wondering. >> This is October. So this is a Zoom meeting. >> 7th to Tuesday. >> I can do my last part of your >> It's only week if you're here. >> Yeah. Those two I can't do. >> Don't I don't want to
do we can do other >> Tuesday the 7th. >> Tuesday the 7th Tuesday works. No, that's the 14th >> and there's a Zoom meeting from the other. >> Is there a finance committee meeting? >> It's not on here, but we can always have the meeting >> here. >> Okay. Well, kind of.
>> Let me just double check my >> wife. So, >> oh, we've got Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Full disclosure here. >> 850,000. >> Here we go. Actually, you want I've got solid loss that we that contain it. So,
the two is fine. You can find out if it's finance for that night. >> Don't worry about it. I'm sure I can work on my >> Wednesday. And people that works for people or >> I don't know. >> Did you find out there's a finance?
>> Eth is also gone. >> I I don't know. >> I'm out next week. So I I if we can f focus on that week, that's good. >> So the seventh, the eth, the 9th, or the 9th. So the finance committee meeting in September was
the 2nd. So the first Tuesday. >> Okay. >> So that would probably be the 7th. >> First Tuesday. >> It's going to be the seventh. >> Do you want to do the eth? >> Uh is anyone problem with the eth? >> What day is it? >> No, >> that's a Wednesday.
>> We do that. >> A quick update on that. Uh, everyone good with the ETH right now? >> Yep. 6:30. >> Yep. Yep. Excellent. >> And let us know if uh that needs to change >> or we can do it early though, right? Because Tracy might need >> Yeah. Let us know if that needs to
change because of Tracy. >> Yeah. I need to know till I can post. >> Okay. >> So, we got to talk to Tracy to find out first. But yeah, like >> is there any other meetings on that for showing anything? Oh, okay.
>> Yep. >> Let us >> And what about >> we'll update that >> planning board meetings or Zoom. >> So, she normally doesn't go to them. It's finance and select board. There's Tuesdays. So, we should be good.
Can anybody make six o'clock? >> I can. >> I can. >> On on Wednesday >> and we'll reserve that for Tracy. >> Okay. >> I don't know if we can call it an executive session.
>> So, Wednesday, October 8th at 6. >> 6 if that's okay. Does that work for you? >> And the first half hour uh after we do the check-in of members present will go directly to uh conversations with the uh town administrator,
>> right? But that's if she can do it. >> Yeah. But we can still keep it at 6 and if not, she's not available. >> Yeah, we'll still have it >> at six. It'll be done. >> Yeah. >> All right. >> Um you want to call this meeting? >> Yes. >> Yes.
Uh, I'll second. >> Um, >> oh, Ch. Uh, call the meeting at, uh, >> 8:13. >> 8:13. >> I 8:13. All in favor? I
>> done. What you have