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Part 1 (Video ID: P879C2Wbtkc):
- 00:00:12: Pledge of Allegiance, Executive Session Motion and Roll-Call
- 00:01:42: Pre-Meeting Discussion, Coastal Trails Grant, Public Comment Timing
- 00:04:27: Approval of Executive Session Minutes; COA Donation Approvals
- 00:06:03: Planning Department Grant Approval and Select Board Reorganization
- 00:09:06: External Committee Assignments: Veterans, Beach, and Triton
- 00:11:57: Triton District Communications Committee Discussions and Appointments
- 00:15:13: Public Property Use Request: Benson/Penny Wedding Approval
- 00:19:05: Entertainment License Granted; Salis Wedding Request Discussion
- 00:23:54: Fram/Matthews Car Show Approved; Rogers/Fabiano Road Modification
- 00:32:35: DPW Concerns, Traffic Calming and Closing Church Street
- 00:40:15: Vote on Traffic Concept Number One; Planning and Safety Concerns
- 00:47:10: Start of Public Comment Period About Plum Island Easements
- 00:48:25: Public Comment: Bob Connor on Dormant Easements History
- 00:54:20: Public Comment: James Anteneelli Concerns on Financial Impact
- 00:56:23: Public Comment: Diane O'Brien Urges Vote Against Easements
- 00:57:14: Public Comment: Barbara Hopinson on Beach Access Restrictions
- 00:58:09: Public Comment: Durk Casa Grande on Forced Easement Signing
- 01:02:02: Public Comment: Nico Kas Grande and Pete Murphy Support Owners
- 01:03:38: Public Comment: Mark Brady - History of Erosion
- 01:13:03: Select Board Discussion on Easement History and Concerns
- 01:22:33: Discussion of Federal Regulation and Just Compensation
- 01:22:46: Public Comment: Mark Brady's Clarification and the $10 Million Lawsuit
- 01:28:15: Public Comment: Derek Casa Grande - Jetty Problems
- 01:33:43: Public Comment: David Williamson on the Ineffectiveness of Sand
- 01:40:16: Public Comment: Jim Mccclehey Supports Others' Positions
- 01:40:48: Public Comment: Dana Packet on Easements and Veterans Position
- 01:45:00: Next Steps; June 9th Meeting; and Further Discussion
- 01:47:58: Public Comment: US Veteran Statement Against Fear and Favoritism
- 01:48:28: Discussion Shifts to One-Day Liquor Licenses for Hale Brewery
- 01:52:55: Liquor License Approvals Complete, Begining Short-term Rentals
- 01:57:14: Rodenticide Policy Revision for Police Station
- 02:03:48: Amendment of Meramac Valley Public Health Excellence Agreement
- 02:06:17: Business License and Commercial Clam Permit Renewals
- 02:08:09: Review and Endorse Chapter 70 Report Card Letter
- 02:11:40: Evaluation of One Day Liquor License Fees; Alternatives
- 02:18:10: Entertainment License Fee Comparison: No Action Taken
- 02:20:09: Town Administrator Report: Budget, Verizon, Road Work
- 02:26:55: National Grid Notification to Basil Treatment
- 02:30:56: Approval of Meeting Minutes, Adjournment Motion


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I aliance to the flag of the United States of America to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. So, we're going to go into executive session, Alicia, do you want to read

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that, >> please? >> Pursuant to >> Excuse me. Pursuant to Mass General Laws chapter 38 section 21 A6, I move we enter into executive session to consider the purchase, exchange, lease, or value of interest in real

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property. the public discussion of which may have a detrimental impact on the negotiating position of the board and chapter 30A section 21A7 to review for release andor approve the draft May 8th

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2026 executive session meeting minutes in accordance with chapter 30A section 21 FMG and to reconvene in open session to vote to approve and or release said minutes if the publication shall not defeat the lawful person purpose

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says of the executive session. I need a second. >> Second. I roll call vote. >> Patrick, yes. >> Alicia Greco, yes. >> Bill Deo, yes. >> Lesley Matthews, yes. >> Started executive

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Yeah. >> Stop. Yeah. You can't see it. >> After that's we'll take the public comment and then you'll then you'll not >> you have to take public comment when those people are here. >> Oh, but you'll have your discussion. Just no vote.

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>> Yeah. >> It's 6:02. I thought I thought that they would be here by about 6:30. I guessed at about 6. >> I remember what my mother used to, you know, would be like compress warm compress. Also, you can take a Q-tip. >> There's no harm in moving public and you

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put it under your lid and starting the >> sound good. It's good by me. Okay. >> Oh, yeah. I mean, it looked like Rocky Balboa was just >> It was like You always thought, "Oh, no. It's picture day,

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>> right? >> Oh, Bill. Um, Kristen's going to come in. We've got that grant from Coastal Trails. She also prepared a thank you letter from the board. She wanted you to execute. She'll have it with her tonight when she comes

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in. >> Good. Good. So, we'll open up public comment when people hear from from uh Plum Island. >> You guys here for the select board meeting? >> Come on in. Joy, did you collect what you needed to?

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>> I did. Thank you. >> Read that again. Right. >> No, I think Lisa said we don't have to read it. Just say that Jeffrey Walker is not here with us tonight, but he is on the telephone. He was going to participate by Zoom, but it's having technical difficulties with Zoom. So, he

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is here. So, we have five people in the select board. We have to skip around on the agenda. I'm going to reschedu not reschedule. I'm going to take public comment a little bit later in the agenda. So,

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we'll start with I don't have any remarks from the chair tonight. And the old business will approve and release the 58 2026 executive session meeting minutes.

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So, I need a motion for that. >> So, moved. Second. >> And we need to do a roll call vote because Jeff is remote. >> Captain, yes. >> Alicia Greco, yes. >> Jayo, yes. >> Leslie Matthews, yes. >> Jeff, yes.

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>> Okay. Thank you. Grants, gifts, and and donations. Approval on behalf of the Council on Aging, a donation of $25 from Cheryl Ganji. >> Move to accept. >> Second. Any discussion? Hearing none. Roll call vote.

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>> Patrick Gford, yes. >> Felicia Graco, yes. >> Bill Deo, yes. >> Wesley Matthews, yes. >> Thank you. Approval on behalf of the Council of Aging, donation of $25 from Karen Barry.

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>> Motion to approve. >> Second. >> All those in favor? I'm sorry. Roll call vote. >> Patrick Efan. Yes. >> Greco. Yes. >> Gilo. Yes. Leslie Matthews. Yes. >> Jeff. >> Yes. >> Just for the late arrivals.

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I'm I'm holding public comment until Mark is here and the people he's bringing at Plum Island. He said I said to him about 6:30 might be the right time. Guessing when we come out of executive session. We came out of it early. So we're doing other business.

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And >> Mr. Chairman, that's why you run the meeting. >> Thank you, sir. Okay. Approval on behalf of the planning department of $10,000 grant from the coastal trails coalition to be used for the title search legal

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appra legal appraisal and other expenses related to the right of way for the new sections of the Georgetown Newbury border to Boston Trail. Motion >> to approve. Second. >> Roll call vote. >> Patrick Klin, yes. >> Alicia Greco, yes.

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>> Bill Deo, yes. >> Leslie Matthews, yes. Oh, >> and we're doing roll call votes because Jeff is remote via telephone. Um, new business.

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>> Um, after every election, we reorganize as a board and that's what's the next item on the agenda is. So, um, um, I I would like to nominate select

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mino to con still become be our chair. I think he's an excellent chair. Um doing a great job and he has all my support. So I move that Bill Deo remain chair of the select board.

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>> I'll second that. >> Jeff second. >> Jeff, did you second that? >> Second. >> Okay. So, we need a roll call vote or any other nominations. Let's do a roll call vote.

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>> Yes. >> Greco, yes. >> I'll vote yes. >> Wesley Matthews, yes. >> Thank you. And I'd like to nominate Alicia Greco to be vice chair. Alicia has a depth of

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knowledge. She's sat in this seat for probably close to six years, I think, as chair. >> Oh, chair. >> As chair. >> Yeah, maybe. >> And um it's um I I I need her help. >> Second.

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>> Um roll call vote. >> Patrick, yes. >> Alicia Greco, yes. >> Joel Deo, yes. >> Lesley Matthews, yes. >> Yes. >> Thanks, Jeff. >> And Mr. Uh, chairman, I would like to nominate Leslie Matthews to continue as

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a clerk. I think we make a good leadership team. >> Jeff second that. >> Second it. >> Roll call vote. >> Dr. Ken, yes. Greco, yes. >> Bill Deo, yes. >> Lesler Matthews, yes. >> Jeff Walker,

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>> check. >> Okay. I'd like a raise, though. >> I raise. Um, let's see. Mark is still not here. Um, next we need to reorganize the reorganization of external external committee assignments.

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Starting with the Eastern Essex District, >> the Veterans >> Eastern Essex Veterans District. Um, this is kind of unique. It's not really an assign an an appointment. uh according to the bylaws of the eastern

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Essex district, it is the mayor of a town or the chair of the select board who is on that district. >> It's also set in Massachusetts general law. It's not just the bylaws. It's Massachusetts general law that the chair and the or the mayor

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have that >> appointment. >> So, I am currently on that board and I would like to continue on that board as chair of the select board. I'll move that >> second call vote. >> Patrick Cffton, yes. >> Alicia Greco, yes.

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>> Phil Deo, yes. >> Yes. >> Matthews, yes. >> Marramac Valley Beach Alliance. I think Jeff Walker currently does that. And I would like to appoint Jeff Walker.

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I'd make a motion to appoint Jeff Walker to the Marmac River Beach Alliance. >> I'll second that. He has a a a depth and a breath and a wealth of knowledge when it comes to anything to do with the river, the marsh, the ocean. I I would

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hope you remain on that committee call that vote. >> Dr. Kefan, yes. >> Alicia Graco, yes. >> Bill Deo, yes. >> Leslie Matthews, yes. >> Jeff how important he is. >> Okay. Next is is the Triton Building

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Committee. >> So Patrick sits on this currently. >> Mhm. >> Um since he's doing such a swimming job, I would like to move that he continue to serve on the Triton Building Committee.

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>> I agree. You agree? >> Leslie seconds that. >> Okay. Anybody else have a burning desire to >> got meeting Thursday if anybody else wants to do >> I know that a roll call vote >> Patrick Cernin yes >> Alicia Groco yes >> yes

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>> Lesie Matthews yes >> Jeff >> okay I mean also you know we we didn't include it here but but uh Patrick also sits on the Whittier >> it's on here >> committee is it >> oh no they

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so we need to appoint Patrick to the Wyia building committee as well. >> Sure. Patrick. Yes. >> Yes. >> Bill Mayo. Yes. >> Wilson. Yes. >> Jeff. Yes.

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>> Okay. The Triton District Communications Committee. Um, this one is kind of going to start ratcheting up because there's going to be um more conversations about

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regional agreement >> and all that other stuff. Um, I I went back and I read the regional agreement. >> We only need one um it only require only the according to

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the agreement, it only requires one person. We've all we've had two. I think historically >> we had three at one time too. There was Jeff and I and I think finance committee. >> Yeah. Yeah. But for the board finance committee is something they they do their own person. But

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>> we have two because it's a redundancy in case one person can't make it. But it's only required to have one. >> I'm all for having two. Um I'm all for having you two. And I'll step back from PCC. the building committee is going to be enough to it's gonna it's also going

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to ramp up. Yeah. So that's true. That's true. >> I'm all for >> and you have a you have a huge background on on the school committee stuff and >> they're going to start talking about the regional agreement again in chapter 70 and I don't know I understand that. >> Well, there's going to be some um going

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to be a few different changes. Um we're going to try to have uh more of a smaller informal less informal less formal uh conversation with people during the summer months

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>> and to prepare going into the budgetary season. >> And I'll just add that now that the election is over and and Brett Alger is on the school committee. I I spoke to Brett, I'd like to have the three school committee people sit with us to have a

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nice better relationship, so to speak, select board and and school committee. It kind of makes sense. Y. >> So, the appointments for the Triton District Commission. >> I think you need a motion. >> We need a motion. I'll make the motion. >> Great. >> You should to be on it.

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>> We're going to go with one person or two. Two. >> I think we should have two. >> Leslie. >> Two. >> Okay. Nominate Leslie Matthews. >> Second. >> Roll call vote. >> Patrick Cuffing. Yes. >> Alicia Greco. Yes.

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>> Mayo. Yes. >> Leslie Matthews. Yes. >> Jeff. Yes. >> Okay. The Woody Techch Regional Agreement Amendment Committee. That's um >> Is that the one you sit on? >> That's the committee I sit on. >> Actually, Tracy and I sit on it. I'm the

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voting member and Tracy is the this backup. >> Um well, I I move that we can Phil continue in that role because there's a lot of history there. He understands it. He is a voting member. He's the chair of the select board. I move that we appoint Phil Deo as the Wittiotech regional

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agreement amendment committee. >> Second then. >> Okay. Roll call vote. >> Patrick Herman. Yes. >> Braco. Yes. >> Deo. Yes. >> Matthews. Yes. >> Jeff. Yes. >> Okay. Thanks. Okay. I still don't see Mark here yet.

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6:15. We're still plotting along here. Public property use request by Carly Benson and Ethan Penny to use the Newbury Beach U02-0-27 at the end of Plum Island Boulevard for a wedding ceremony on August 1st, 2026

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from 2:00 p.m. to 700 p.m. Are they here tonight? >> Oh, you are. >> Come up to the podium. Introduce yourselves, names, and your address, please. >> Um, I'm Carly Benson, One Garden Street,

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Newbury Report. >> Ethan Penny, same address. >> So, we need a motion for this. >> Um, um, if I may, so I believe they also have the entertainment license

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hereafter. In the last we spoke, Mr. Penny, you said you were familiar with the plvers. >> Yeah. >> Um, have you been out to the beach lately to see? >> We have. Yeah. And we also marked it up on a >> I measured from the front. I measured out the piping pow

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area. It's like 75 ft out from where the end of the parking lot goes. And then with the chairs that we have, it requires a 25x 30t rectangle. And there's still an extra um

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it's a little less than 50 ft up until bring that up to the chair. >> Were you keeping it at the center parking or were you moving down to temple? >> Oh, center parking. >> I just want to make sure cuz in case this was a non-issue. Sorry, chair.

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>> So, this is >> they want to still use center parking. >> Use this. >> Yep. >> And all the cars would be at PETA Hall where the reception is. So it wouldn't be any cars parking. >> Okay. Very good. Very good. So we can I have a motion.

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>> What what time is this happening? >> So the chair >> 2 to 7. >> So all right. So, I move that we grant the public property use request by Carly Benson and Ethan Penny to use Newbury Beach at the end of Plum Island

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Boulevard for a wedding ceremony on August 1st, 2026 from 2 to 7 p.m. >> Second. >> Any any discussion on this? >> Yeah. Are you going to be tying up the whole parking lot from 2:00 to 7:00 p.m.

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or are you moving? >> No, we have everyone parking at Peter Hall and there's also a bus that will just drop people off if they need to be dropped off or they'll just walk to the end. >> What day of the week is this? >> Saturday. >> So,

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do they need the whole do you need that space for the whole 2 to 7? >> No, I was just going to say that's not what it says, right? >> It's just for the ceremony. >> Yeah. Right. So, the chairs get dropped off within a window around 2:00 and they

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set those up. But the actual ceremony is from 4:30 to 5 and then they start breaking down the chairs right after the ceremony. >> Okay. >> The chairs. It's about the setup. >> It's about the chairs. Yeah. >> And it's only chairs. There's no pamphlets. There's no anything that would be like left on the beach. It's

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just chairs. And this is literally on the sand. It's not in the parking lot. >> Correct. Not just freak out a little bit about the parking lot at all. Okay. >> Okay. >> So, we had a motion >> and Jeff second. >> Jeff seconded. Roll call vote. >> Roll call vote.

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>> Uh, Patrick Cuffin. Yes. >> Elicia Graco. Yes. >> Phil Deo. Yes. >> Wesley Matthews. Yes. >> Jeff. >> You'll have a lot of extra guests though. >> That's fine. >> As long as they don't have green heads. >> Thank you. Next. Next. U. Carly Leon. looking for a 1-day

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entertainment license for August 1st, 2026 from 5:00 p.m. to 10 p.m. at Peter Hall for a wedding DJ, including dancing by patrons, use of amplification system, DJ, and microphone for speeches. >> I move to grant the one-day

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entertainment license for Carly and Benson and Ethan Penny on August 1st from 5 to 10 p.m. at Peter Hall. >> Second. >> Uh, roll call vote. Uh Patrick Kinan, yes. >> Alicia Greco, yes.

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>> Bill Deo, yes. >> Leslie Matthews, yes. >> Marshall, yes. >> Thanks, Jeff. >> All right. >> Congratulations. >> Good luck. Thank you. >> Sure. >> Appreciate it. Uh, next is a public property use request by Paloma Salis to

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use the Newry Beach at the end of Plum Island Boulevard for wedding ceremony on June 6th, 2026 from 1:00 p.m. to 2:00 p.m. >> Come up to the podium. Introduce yourself and your address. I move to

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grant the uh public property use request by Paloma Sales to use in Newbury Beach at the end of Plum Island on June 6, 2026 from 1 to 2 p.m. >> Second. >> So, my name is Paloma Sales. I live on 134 East Havil Street in Lawrence, Massachusetts.

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Um, so I was planning to have my wedding ceremony. I know I said 1 to 2, but I was thinking about doing 4 to 5 um just because of other family that's coming in. I only I'm not having any microphones or anything. Um, where I plan to do it is right right where the

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beachfront is like that entrance. I'm not going to like I went there yesterday and I saw that the left side was blocked off for the birds. For the birds. Yeah. So, it would just be straight ahead. Um, chairs if they're allowed that'd be nice. I think the chairs would be like

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this size but foldable chairs. Um, yeah. So, it'll be like a 30 minute ceremony of 30 people. >> Okay. And the time change is going to be >> um 400 p.m. to 5:00 p.m. >> 4 to 5. >> And this is coming up in two weeks. >> Next week, next Saturday. >> Saturday.

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>> I have a I took some pictures of where I was thinking if I if you guys want to see that. >> That would be great. >> So, similar to the la the last couple of here. Not using the parking lot at all though. Just >> So, there's a parking lot, but it looks like it's for permit only.

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But I noticed that there was some parking lots at like the paveing. >> So I would have people to get you can scroll through these pictures like that's like the when you walk right in. >> Yeah. So this is when we you walk right in. This is the parking lot and that's

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the What's your vision where? >> So my vision is just straight ahead like >> on the sand. >> Yeah. Or um I don't know if I'm going to look through like where those rocks are. >> You can't go AC. You can't go around the fencing. >> No. No. Around the end. Yes. >> And and then if you start going beyond

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these rocks, that's now you're >> only like right there. >> Um, how long are you planning on using it for? >> The whole hour. >> Yeah, just an hour. >> Um, I would just be mindful of if it's a busy day, they're going to have people

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walking back and forth. So, I would kind of >> push it down away from the entrance. >> It's just >> No, that's okay. I could see from there. Yeah. Yeah. >> Very good. >> Yeah. >> And I think the I'm going to make a suggestion to you and I don't know

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anything for the board to hear that the last couple that came up in their chairs out a little bit earlier >> so that that portion that you'd like to have the ceremony will still be available to you and not have beachgoers on. >> Yes. If people are sitting on the beach

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now, you got to move them. >> You got to get out there and stake your claim. show like 3:30. >> Um, >> I say early. >> Oh, yeah. People will be there all day. >> Yeah, >> people are going to, if it's a warm day, they're going to be there all day. >> 9:00,

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>> 8:00, 9:00. >> I would >> They're going to start arriving. >> I would just keep your your time on here is 1 to two, and you were saying change at 4 to 5. Just make it 1 to 5 and you can get there. >> Just make it 1 to 5. >> 1 to 5. You can set up your chairs and you'll be done by 5. >> Yeah. >> Okay, >> that's better. Good idea.

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>> Sound good? >> Sounds good. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Okay. So, I move I don't know, Joy, what's the motion? >> Um, you have a move to grant the public property use request. >> Do I have a time? >> I missed it. If you did, my apologies. >> So, let's say it's 1 to 5. >> From 1 to 5:00 p.m. on June Saturday,

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June 6th. >> June 6. >> A second that >> Patrick. Yes. >> Alicia Greco. Yes. >> Bill Deo. Yes. >> Wesley Matthews. Yes. >> Jeff. Yes. >> Congratulations. have a wonderful have a

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wonderful event. >> Thank you so much. >> Uh public property use request from Steve Fram and Tony Matthews to use the central green parking lot on August 14th, 2026 from 2:30 to dusk with an alternative rain date of August 21st,

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2026. I move to grant public property use requests by Steve Graham and Tony Matthews to use a central suite green from August 14th from 2:30 to dusk with a rain date of August 21st. >> Second

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Leslie, do you want to sit on this one? I think you should probably >> Oh, yeah. >> All right. Don't go too far. >> Not a shot. >> Um, let's do a roll call vote. Yes. >> Any questions? You want to advertise your

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>> sir a little bit. >> Just uh the car show like we had last year >> back back to back with Newbury Town. >> Newbie Town day. It's the 15th. We're This will be Friday afternoon at um on the 14th >> and um starting at 4:00, but we're

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asking to use the property from 2:30. So we the food pantry is going to set up their kitchen. You got to put the cones out and all that. So, >> how many cars are you expecting this year? >> We had around 100. Yeah.

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>> Oh, it's a great show. It's a great show. It's well attended. >> Yeah. >> Good stuff there. Thank you for doing it again. >> All right. >> Thank you. >> Did we second the motion? >> I think so. >> I think so. >> Did Jeff second it?

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>> I second it. No, we need a different one. >> I'll second that. Second it. >> So, do we have a second? >> Uh, also you do. >> Okay. Roll call vote. >> Patrick Huffin, yes. >> Alicia Greco, yes. >> Bill Deo, yes. Jeff.

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>> Okay. And Leslie recuses herself. Thanks a lot again. Okay. >> Thank you. >> Uh, we'll do the last one. Request of Thomas Thomas Rogers. Michael Fabiano, Michael Becker to modify layout for of

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>> two. War two >> dead end church street. >> Introduce yourselves please at best >> Tom Rogers 15 Church Street 17 Church Street. Hi Carissa Vidus, Mike Becker. We're developing 15 central next

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door neighbors. >> And what is your proposal? >> So the uh because of the development of Mike's property, they're having to put in a new curb cut uh on Church Street.

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And uh you've got three driveways within one car length of each other right at the intersection of Church and Central. So it's it's pretty dangerous situation. Uh I've been living on Church Street for over 40 years and uh the traffic does

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not go slow. This uh we put in a stop sign at the corner. Downfallen church. Thank you. >> We will blow right through it. So, um, it's somewhat of a deterrent, but still the the traffic comes off of 95 at 75

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miles an hour. They slow down to maybe 45 when they pass the prime gas station and now they want to do the cut through on Church Street and they're not slowing down. So, um, we what we propose is to close that Church

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Street at that point. And uh you know if people are using it as a cut through to get to West Newbury, they just go down central to Maine, make a right. It's actually easier. Um and you know the neighbors that are on that

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section of Church Street, we all are for closing it down. So that's the proposal. >> We're all in agreement. >> We uh we volunteer to pay for it. We have the developers Carissa and myself

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of 15 Central. Uh so it's a unique opportunity for the town to make an improvement and safety and improvement in the neighborhood at no expense to the citizens of the town or the people of the neighborhood. So if I'm not mistaken, we I mean the

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town has vetted this and the the planning committee >> planning board has come up with uh their proposals. I think the chief of police and the fire chief have weighed into it in terms of safety reasons. DPW was

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concerned about um I think if the street was deadended, where would they pile up snow or the snow plows and um you know there was a consensus of all of those people

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of uh one proposal to do it. I forget the number of it >> except proposal one or >> yeah to create this >> tea off intersection keep the oneway direction at green space to tighten this turn from central is that the one

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>> yeah this the one I see >> this one here >> uh that's one of them that's with the kind of added a chicane for Right. Slow is like a tracking timing measure. >> Yeah.

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>> So we just our proposal is to close it which I see is uh our law essentially ends >> uh like 15 ft I think from the front of it. >> So you're here. >> This is our house and our lot ends someplace back here. >> And this is the proposed roadway. You're

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going to put a road up there. >> Just one one house. >> One home. >> Two family. It's a two family, one one structure, but the this whole >> section from uh the edge of this fence, you see where the fence stops that it stops at the edge of the right away and

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that runs to about where the edge of the green is. So, as far as snow storage, there's probably more than 20 ft times 50 ft long. >> Yeah. But if that road's closed, blocked up, they can't plow through. >> They wouldn't plow through. They'd have to plow it onto there and they would

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stop. I think this would be a private road. So, they would just stop here and then >> go on their merry way >> back out. >> They could turn around in the driveway the same as well driveway street the same as the fire trucks would. And then also this what we're going to propose as a gate there with a notch box on it so

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that fire trucks can have >> access to leave after any kind of event. But the turning radius onto the street meets the fire department's requirements for emergency access already. It's not a uh maneuvering issue.

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>> So this is what this this proposal three is the one that you're suggesting. >> That's what we're suggesting. So basically this is kind of superfluous would be storage or maneuvering area there in addition to the areas. Okay. >> There's no sidewalk on this side. New

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sidewalk on this side. >> Can I look at that? Thank you. We had a sitewalk with the planning board >> and Mike and I. >> The public can't hear this. >> And as we understand it, the people who

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live here, some of them have kids. >> This is Frank's house. This is Dawn's house. You can see how close are the street. >> Also noteworthy. >> Yeah, you guys got to go back there. Yeah, there's a trailer that uh went flying down the street last week and

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ripped the uh transformer and wires off telephone pole. It's like >> Oh, yeah. >> Speaking of which, uh I don't know. >> Probably the DPW needs to be alerted, but the oil there's oil all over Central Street. It's getting on your cars. Got

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it on my car today. Driving through it. >> Was that cleaned up, Tracy? The oil? >> Not properly. They they came twice with speedy dry, but it's it's all gooey now. Like you can go down here and see it. It's it's a mess. >> The DPW. >> Thank you for bringing that to our

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attention. >> Thanks. >> Um so we've had the planning board had this look at uh Marramck Valley Planning. Have you do you know about that group? Marramac

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Valley Planning Commission. They That's what they are. They're the Marramac Valley Planning Commission. All of the communities in the Marramac Valley, us being one of them. Um, use them as a resource. They help us lay out

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subdivisions and lay out look at roads, look at closing roads, look at changing speed limits on roads. They do all of that stuff. um their re recommendation to the to the planning board was this

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using this traffic counting measure rather than close close the road and the police department and the and the DPW I'm not sure about the fire department >> fire department as well >> they um the fire department included >> yes >> they're not in favor of closing that

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vote >> it will affect public safety it will affect response time affect But I hear you about the problem with traffic um the speed of the traffic. So I think we can do things to combat

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traffic down if needed. I think this chicane so to speak whatever this is added green space I think that's that's a stop and we'll see how that goes. >> So we could try that out and then if some kid gets hit by a car then go to

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the next level. Is that what you're saying? I'd hate to stipulate that if some kid gets hit by a car. I mean, I live on Orchard Street. It's also a speedway of people going from Route One to Route 95. >> I live on street. >> I can sympathize with you about traffic,

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but but uh >> you've lived next to Church Street or on Church Street for a lot of years, so you have a lot of experience with what happens there. I appreciate that. But >> how many children have been hit on main on that Church Street to date? Do I don't I'm not aware of any.

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I don't know either. >> My actually my daughter got hit in her car. She was coming out of our driveway and she got hit. So I think it's more of a matter of I mean we're not against building where trying to voice that with new developments come new traffic

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patterns. And I mean we saw with the tractor trailer we know about Amazon deliveries. There's going to be three units that use that driveway. That's at least six cars that are going to be coming in and out of there. And you know, when you come right down there,

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it's turn, bam, driveway. So, I mean, I'm all for building. I'm not saying no to the building, but I think there should be some more leniency when it comes to traffic patterns. >> If I'm not mistaken, I think this green area was put in here to have to improve line of sight. >> Mhm.

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>> Leslie, you were on the planning board. Do you have any comments? Um, well, I know I travel the road. >> Yeah, me too. >> And um, and I know I have seen people speed, but I also see them speed right in front of my driveway. I understand

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that. So far, fingers crossed, knock on wood, all the good stuff. I haven't seen any major casualties, just stupidness. I think that could even happen even if you were to change the road because it will take a long time if they're not paying attention to the stop sign. It's going

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to take them a long time to figure out the change of direction of the road or that they can't travel the road that the way they that like you have for the past 40 years. It's just second nature. >> This the chicane thing is it like is one traffic calming measure. Are there other

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have you guys thought of other than closing off the road? Thought of other ways to >> There's been four designs that were presented by uh I'm not familiar with the abbreviation. They they presented that dead end option. So this was a an idea that they

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came up with. So there's four ideas that >> this organization came up with that they seem are valuable. But the first thing that came to the uh the plan board's uh mind was cost effectiveness. Um, it's cost effect is an issue. >> It's my dime. So, you know,

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I appreciate >> they're looking out for our dime. However, we are delighted to spend the dime. There's only uh four buildings, four properties on that street right now. And it seems as though the neighborhood is spoken. Uh, I don't I

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don't see what the resistance is other than, you know, people that are in the area using that as a cut through, but I don't know that that's, you know, >> um, I don't think that's resistance. I think there's comments from the municipality, the DPW,

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the, um, police department, and the fire department, and we take their comments seriously. >> Well, so I've been through this several times because we it used to be a two-way street, no post stop signs, and then We went to the stop signs, the four-way stops where people don't stop. So,

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they're more dangerous than no stop, I think. But, uh there is precedent for this at Green Street across on the upper green, right across from the old town hall that was closed down uh from Parker

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Street. So, people couldn't use it as a cut through from Parker to get over to uh H handover. So there is a precedent in town for closing off a street like that. >> Well, >> that's a really short.

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>> I think it's a different configuration though as far as um down off of, you know, green. It's a completely different configuration because that comes into a a very um large area of roads all >> there was like five connecting at the

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same time. >> The gas station, the town hall. Yeah. So, it >> made sense and it's on a it's on a highway. >> Yeah. Made sense to do it. >> Do we have a motion, Leslie? I mean, not Leslie. >> Joy.

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>> No. >> Joyy's job now, too. I don't know. Um, so >> so, uh, I have a question. If not voting for closing the street, would you still be voting for one of the proposed

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measures? >> Yeah. >> Do you have a favorite? >> I I think the favorite from the planning department, the fire chief, the police department, and DPW was proposal number one that that

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Marramac Valley scoped out. >> That was their Yeah. and and um honestly they're more um they have more weight than I think we do and more intelligence about what to do and how to do it than we do as a board.

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>> Well, they're they're that's their >> that's their field >> area of expertise. Certainly not in mine. So, >> yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> This one. >> You want to make you want to make the motion? Yeah. Concept number one.

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>> Make a motion to >> Oh, Jeff, do you have anything to add into this? Okay, >> I'm listening intently, but you guys have a lot more experience with that.

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>> Yeah. Yeah. I'll make the motion that that um we adopt concept number one that was provided by by Marramac Valley. the tea off intersection. Keep oneway direction. Add green space to tighten turn from Central Street.

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>> I'll second that. >> Okay. Any discussion? >> We'll start there. We'll start there. >> Yeah. >> See how that goes. >> That would be my only point on this. I think um like you know if we if we move to whatever um except this concept one I

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think that's just the starting place cuz I I think it would be I fully understand what you're saying about the desire to to block that off because I've been down that road too. I get it. Um and I understand what you're saying about more people being there means more traffic. I

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totally understand that as well. This based on all the feedback that we've gotten from planning board, the PDW police, this seems like the best starting place, but doesn't mean that that's the end of it. If that makes sense. >> Is that a fair way to do it? To say exactly what Patrick said. Okay. It's a

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start. >> Yeah. I mean, it's like the last couple times we went through this, you know, town gets their way and we have to agree to it. That's the way it goes. It just seems like a band-aid though for just

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having a little shoulder put there when how many streets does the DBW plow snow and then back out of I mean they do it all over town. It's not like it's a thing that's uncommon. Fire truck can totally turn around there. It's just a preference I think is being put ahead of

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safety in the residences. Um, >> I given the feedback we've gotten from police, from DPW, and from the planning board, I'm not tonight going to say I would go against those recommendations. I mean, I I'd be happy to table it and

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have this discussion with them with with DPW and with the planning board and with the police to understand the way that you just voiced your concerns to be able to bounce that off of them and get their feedback. And I mean, I' >> Why don't we do that then? >> Yeah, I I'd prefer why don't we table it and have that discussion. I'd rather not

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table it because you our situation is that we won't get planning board approval for the road and get our project started until one option is picked. So if we start with option one and we're able to move forward and there's more discussion, you know, over the next few months and it comes as a

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separate petition. Okay. >> Then >> yeah, I'm good with that, too. >> That's good. >> Yeah, >> that's good. >> I think Yeah, I think we need to start here, get the project in there, see how it see how it goes, and then you can always modify. >> Yeah. And to your point, we'll follow up exactly with what you proposed.

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>> Yeah. And I'll I'll I'll do my due diligence of going and talking to the police chief and DPW and planning board to find out to to bounce your idea, your your band-aid assessment off of them to see what they say. >> I do kind of wonder why the traffic goes

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down the street coming from the highway where people are going fast versus coming from the neighborhoods where people are generally traveling slower. Well, as soon as they come off the highway, there is a speed limit sign that says 25 miles an hour. >> No, I understand that. But, you know, you're on the highway doing 75 and

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that's just kind of what you get used to and you get off and as they said, you go from 75 down to 40 or 45 on Central and then you take an immediate right 200 ft up and you just non acclimated. Like 25 seems really slow when you've been doing 75 for however long it is as opposed to

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coming from the neighborhoods where you're already doing 25 before you accelerate up to it. But that's just my kind of common sense sort of looking at. I'm not a traffic engineer. I don't profess to know more than the professionals. Just my, you know, two cents out there.

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>> Okay. >> I don't know if this is a possibility at all, but perhaps for a short period of time, you request from the police department to put one of the flashing lights. Um, >> well, the signs >> the Yeah,

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>> they put a there's something there, I think, now. section. >> Oh, hi Patty. >> Hi. >> Uh, it's if it's not there already, I put it on the schedule when I learned about all of this. >> Okay, >> great. Good. >> It and I have to say that I noticed when

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those signs go up to alert you to what your speed is that people do abide by them. >> They seem pretty effective to me. >> Yeah. So see what you know Patty's got it on her schedule. >> That's our chief of police. >> Patty, I think those signs also do

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recording of traffic. >> Yes, I will have data as well. >> It does account. >> Yes. >> Uh it Yeah, it does speed speed counts. >> Y we have a motion and a second. So we have need to do a roll call vote for this motion.

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>> Somebody >> I'm sorry. Um, sounds like this has been presented before, long before me. What if one thing differently we could do is during construction, maybe have a temporary jersey barrier set up at the top of the street while they're developing?

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>> Uh, you'll have to work with the with the work with the DPW or the police department and fire department to place that. It just it could be an extra step instead of getting I mean it seems like it's kind of been back burned in the past and it could be something in a different step that would help everybody

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see what's going on and how it can be instead of just saying oh let's talk about it later. Not that it's saying we won't but I think while developing it's going to be a nightmare when they're having trucks coming in and out machines dropping this dropping that taking out all the ledge doing what they got to do. So >> water manes

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>> yeah water street's going to be closed when we put water manes in anyway. So, so is that something they take out? >> But it's not permanent. >> No, I I agree. But from a trial basis kind of thing like a trial a way of seeing what it would like to get >> worked this out with the planning board

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about the temporary jersey barrier. >> Yes, we would make sure the construction was proceeded safely for sure. >> Okay. Even if it's during like the work week and then on the weekends they remove the barriers. They got machines there. They can move them. No problem. >> Okay. Okay. >> We'll make sure you're safe. >> That makes sense. >> Yeah. Yeah.

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>> All right. So, we need a roll call vote on what the motion was. >> Yeah. >> Yes. >> Patrick. >> Patrick Huffman. Yes. >> Alicia Graco. Yes. >> Bill. Yes. >> Lesley Matthews. Yes. >> Jeff. >> Jeff. Yes. >> All right. Thanks. >> Thank you. >> We appreciate your ideas and concerns.

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Okay. >> All right. Um, now we're going to stop. We're going to we're going to go back to public comment. >> Mark, I'm sorry. I said I guessed at 6:30. It's 6:47. I missed by 17 minutes. Okay, Bill. Public comment to receive

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all communications from members of the public. Members of the public may address the select board for up to three minutes. The select board shall not engage in discussion on topics raised during public comment, but may choose to add the com the topic to a future agenda. This agenda segment will be

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limited to 15 minutes unless extended at the discretion of the chairperson. >> Yeah. So I we expected a lot of public comment specifically about the easements. So

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>> who's first? >> Well, what a nice start. >> Yeah. Mr. Chairman, members of >> You need to introduce yourself. >> You want my name and >> Please, please. Bob Connor is 39 Annapolis Way. This is my first time doing public speaking here. So

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either that or I'm getting CN. That's how I usually do this. >> I had to do that, Bob. >> So Mr. Chairman, select board, uh, thank you for the opportunity to speak tonight. >> Are you guys tired of talking about this and hearing about this? Because I can

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tell you on this side of the aisle, the 17year-old easements are to have them reappear. has just consumed a lot of time and a lot of energy in everyone's party. So, let me start my my comments. 17 years ago, the Commonwealth failed

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coastal policies and its refusal to allow coastal communities and property owners to protect their homes, roadways, or water and sewer infra infrastructure created a crisis on Plum Island. beach erosion, beach erosion, threatened

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homes, public infrastructure, and the stability of the island itself. As I look around the table, I drafted this thinking Mr. Walker was going to be here on the >> phone. He's on the phone. >> As I look around the table, I hear Mr. Walker on the phone was the only person

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that went through this 17 years ago. to ask this current board now to decipher exactly what occurred or the intent of those of us who live through it. It's unfair on all of you. Reconstructing a chain of events nearly two decades

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later, it's almost impossible. I'm told that there was confusion regarding the dormant easements and the belief that property owners voluntarily rented them. That is simply wrong. I know this because I personally reached

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out uh to each affected property owner. My message was crystal clear. You need to sign the easements or you run the risk of losing your home. Joe Napoli was in Thailand at the time, living in Thailand, and if there was one

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missing easement, this would not have happened. The state made it equally clear that D would not permit any measures necessary to protect the lateral excuse me to protect the lateral support of homes, the roadway or critical sewer and water infrastructure

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without those easements. This effort took months. The town itself, excuse me, property owners raised every objection imaginable. Many asked, "We already allow the public to use the beach. Why are these easements necessary? Many

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people called it extortion at the time and they were right. Now 17 years later, the town itself is being threatened. Accept these easements or face fines or litigation. One has to ask why now and who's making

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these threats? The answer is simple. Mass fish and wildlife. And the public deserves honesty about the real purpose behind this effort. This was never about keeping the beach open to public access because the public has always used it.

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Reality is these easements will be used to close the beach, justifying expanded state control, including the posting of signs, fencing, closures for potential bird habitat or nesting birds, ultimately restricting the very public

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access originally cited as the justification by these easements. Why now? Because over the last several years, the board has been inundated with complaints regarding the conduct of the sole source vendor authorized by Mass

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Fish and Wildlife. Mass audible, excuse me. Residents and property owners watched as entire sections of the beach were closed off. They watched signs, fencing expand across the shoreline. They watched as representatives of

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Ottabon repeatedly entered private property without the owner's permission despite repeated warnings from the town that their authority and their services were strictly limited to town owned land. That conduct ultimately led to

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formal no trespass notices being issued to both the town and the Ottabon and to their recording with the police department. The result was growing public opposition, increasing scrutiny, and complete breakdown of trust between

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property owners, residents, and those in charge of managing the beach. That is not meant to be the select mode. You guys have been, you know, collaborative on this thing, and I know the number of meetings we've all sat in. So

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we can no longer clean our own beaches, whether that's by the town or residents under the knots program, regardless of what washes ashore. Medical waste, hypodermic needles, fishing gear, plastics, other dangerous debris are

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regularly deposited along the shoreline. Yet both the town and residents are increasingly restricted from maintaining cleaning the very beaches in front of our homes. It's no secret that I'm involved with Pacific Legal Foundation. At this time,

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PLF does not represent any Plum Island Property owners in this matter. However, we are monitoring the situation closely, giving the serious constitutional property rights, and public access issues that continue to emerge.

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You've heard this all before. You've got all the documents before. I mean, it's feeding a dead horse at at this point. So, I'm going to stop there and let other people speak, but I truly thank you for the opportunity to speak and for all the time you put into this. Alicia,

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Bill, Tracy, we've met with US Fish and Wildlife, Mass Fish and Wildlife, the Ottabon, and everything is great until they actually start introducing untrained summer help to manage the beach.

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>> Thanks, Bob. >> Thank you, Paul. Thank you, brother Connors. >> Good evening. James Anteneelli, uh 125 Northern Boulevard, Plum Island. Um my questions tonight are how is this going to impact um the homeowners and what are

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the next steps of the board in regards to these easements? Um, and is there any fiscal um, responsibility that we have in regards to the people that own these properties and how it's going to impact them overall? And will it impact our town in regards to any financial

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uh, uh, p push back in regards to uh, funding uh, that's taken away from taxpayers. >> So, I think this is a public comment period right now for the board and they're going to discuss it later. So your chance now is to make your public comments and then the it's not a back

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and forth. >> All right. Okay. I'm sorry for that. So my concern is that you know twothirds of the island right now is is a is a sanctuary, right? Um and to from my my point of view to close down I've been here since 2008. Um own two different

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pieces of property and uh have contributed I think positively to the uh to this to the community of Plum Island. And so I' I've got great concerns in regards to how this is going to impact uh the homeowners, what it's going to do to their property value, how it's going to impact people who want to come to uh

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uh visit beautiful Plum Island and have access to the beaches. So, I'm just uh curious as to how this is going to impact uh myself uh others around our neighborhoods and how it's going to impact the homeowners of of Plum Island. If if I can get some of those answers tonight, that may lead me to future

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questions. But I I just need to understand how this really is going to impact um uh people of Plum Island and the visitors to Plum Island. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Hi Diane O'Brien, 642nd Street, Plum Island.

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I'm just requesting that you vote against the easements and for the property rights for the homeowners on Plum Island. Um, Department of Fish and Games was in control of the Pink House and we all know what happened there. Despite many alternatives and requests

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from the people of Plum Island to keep the Pink House, once given control, it was gone. My fear is that if they are given control of the beachfront through use of these easements, who knows where that will end, what they'll do with it,

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and once the easements are granted, the town will have absolutely no control over what is done. So, I'd rather you exercise that control now before granting the easement than be stuck with nothing to do afterwards.

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>> Thank you. Simple. This I'm Barbara Hopinson. I'm at um 64 Northern Boulevard. And I'd mentioned this before. I moved into Plum Island on my third birthday. And I've been here most of my life. Since then, I now I bought my current house um in 1997. I

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love this island. And before we did the no trespassing notices, um the Ottabon came and they blocked me from my own beach. So, you know, they corrected it when I complained, but uh I'm really worried about this. I'm worried about uh what could happen to the beach, and I

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see lots of uh potential if we just keep it the way it is, but I see lots of potential detriment if we allow them too much control because I don't think our interests are necessarily in their best interest. Thank you.

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>> Thanks, Robert. I'm Durk Casa Grande. Uh I own 42 Northern Boulevard, one of the 26 properties. And we were

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the property owners were effectively forced to sign the easement as Bob Connelly mentioned uh by a threat. If we don't if any properties if any buildings get washed

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away due to the erosion, it'll be our fault. So we we had to sign or or suffer the consequences. But

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now that the easements are in place, we receive no compensation. We've had to pay tax on the entire property the full time, 17 years.

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And it just doesn't seem reasonable that uh the town can't give the easements back to the property owners. Uh because the property owners did not uh

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uh prevent public access along the beach. And it uh it must be um

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my memories. >> No, no worries. Take take your time. >> 17 years ago. I had to keep track. >> Yeah. Um, I was also going to say uh

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uh that I forgot. Sorry. 80 85 years old and uh memory's going down so I apologize. But uh perhaps the easements could be negated.

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The property owners would certainly be happy to uh let the public access the beach as before. And uh it it just

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seems the most reasonable uh approach uh given that the beach is now larger than it's ever been since we bought our property in 1977. Uh it ever since the jetties were were

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corrected or fixed at the mouth of the Marramac, the beach has been getting larger rather than smaller. So that needs to be taken into consideration. I mean the the main purpose of the easements was to allow

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replenishment of the beach so people wouldn't lose their homes. Well, that isn't the case at present. >> Well, thank you anyway. >> Thank you. >> Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us.

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>> Hi, Nico Kas Grande, son of Derek Kasa Grande, 42 Northern Boulevard. Um, real quick, I' I'd just like to say that, you know, nobody understands the beach better or cares for the beach more or appreciates the wildlife and the public

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access more than the beachfront owners. And these easements were extorted. It's just not right. So, I'd encourage you all to vote against those easements. Thank you. Good evening. I'm Pete Murphy from 10

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Northern Boulevard and um the old suits us cottage that my great-grandfather built back in the late 30s. I think I said that the last time I was up here, but I like to repeat it. Uh I just wanted to say that I'm in uh

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agreement with everyone that's spoken in front of me. I think they all have great uh arguments. They've all expressed it very eloquently and and and very thoughtfully and I just would like to uh urge you also to put the easements on

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hold whether that's option two and uh just try to put them off as long as we can so we can continue the way um uh we've all enjoyed the island. So, thank you very much. >> Thank you. >> Thank you.

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There you go. Thanks, folks. Okay. >> Hey there, folks. We got to stop talking about this at some point, you know. >> Sure. >> Thank you very kindly. Thank you.

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>> And Joy, I'm going to ask you in a second to show those things. So, folks, you know, I got ready for our talk this evening and I thought about, you know, the fact that America is going through its 250th birthday.

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And to me, that's all about living democracy. That's what it's about. And that's what I appreciate about this meeting here. So, first I want to thank you, Bill, as our chairperson. Thank you, Jeff, by the way, on the phone. And thanks all of you

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around the table for doing your job as our town government. It's a job. I know it's a job and it's often not thanked. Thank you very much. I mean it sincerely. Even if we disagree, I still appreciate it. And thank you to all of you, my community and towns people. I am

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so proud of you all coming out to speak. So proud. So just as already has been stated to you by many people here this evening, this for us is not about a political opinion. This is about our lives. It's about where we live. It's

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about the fact that we, most of us, I think probably all of us worked our lives to be able to go live on Plum Island and live on the beachfront. And we just want to live. That's all we want to do is live on our property. I want to remind you though where we

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were in 2008 and 2009. Joey, would you please show the first photograph? So, this this here I'm going to step over here. This is a picture starting at Center Island Growing looking northward

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up the beach. This is the area where the sand was going to be placed. This cliff, which by the way ran all the way north south along the beach, was between 8 and 12 ft high. It was a sheer

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cliff. As you can see, people couldn't use the beach. People fell off the cliff. This deck here fell into the ocean subsequent to this photograph. This fence, you can sort of see it runs up right along the property all the way

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up to the north end of the island. So that's what we were facing. And this was in December of 2008 when we were placing Jeff will remember this what we called core bags to try to prevent the massive erosion that was going on at the time.

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And those core bags were like long columns of sand in burlap bags that we hoped and prayed were going to stop the force of the ocean, but they didn't quite honestly. Now, this was a year before the special town meeting that I

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was cited at speaking at. Let me be clear that when this was going on, we said to the town, we said to people in the Army Corps, we said to our federal legislators, this is abnormal. This level of erosion

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is not what is considered normal. It took us a few years to get the attention of the Army Corps. We got their attention. A study was done which is called the 204 study which measures the level of erosion compared

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against the homes that are behind the erosion and the public infrastructure water and sewer by the way that we all paid almost $30 million for and those were endangered according to the study and the study recommended the dredge that put the sand in front of those

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homes there. That's what happened. But it's been said that I said in this for paid piece that I circulated in 2009 that I said we freely offered these easements signatures. Well, let me tell you when I'm standing

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on that ledge and by the way, my home is right on that ledge there and I'm looking out at the ocean and I'm thinking about life. There's a gun to my head here and I'm being told, "Hey, you want that sand out there? You want your

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home not to fall in the ocean? Sign the easements. And by the way, the message was we have to get everybody to sign the easements. And you all know me. You know who I am. You know what I do. You give me a message like that, I'm going to organize my community, which is what I

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did. Bob and I and a few other people organized people up and down the beach and we got the job done. But look, when someone's holding a gun to your head, you don't say, "Well, gee, I really disagree with you. I'm not sure I agree with you, but please take the gun from

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my head." You say, "Look, what do I have to say to get the one gun away from my head?" And then let me figure out what I have to do to deal with it afterwards. That's the first thing you say. Imagine if it was your home up on that ledge. Now, how do we get into this precarious

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situation? Some people like to attribute this to normal accrete accretion and erosion. In actuality, normal accretion and erosion on our beach was 1 to 2 feet a year upper depth. This was abnormal erosion caused by the erosion of the

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jetties which were placed by the Army Corps of Engineers in the early 70s. Those jetties degraded and the Army Corps came out and studied it. Nick Krauss, God rest his soul, he's passed

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and Bob and I walked the jetties and looked at what had happened and he talked about the degradation. He came in, he flew in from Louisiana. So, this problem was caused by a lack of care for the navigation channel and the

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care of the jetties. The Army Corps admitted this to us. >> They said that was true. That's why they were doing this project. But they said at the last moment, the 11th hour, we got this notification that

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Mass Fish and Wildlife was requiring us to sign these easements. What were we going to do? It was the fall of 2009. You see what it looks like? It would already gone another year. It was worse than that.

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Of course, we signed these things. Of course, we were going to save our homes. and we were going to figure out how to deal with it. Well, now we face a situation where those easements not properly recorded as our chairperson

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knows because he looked at the lack of signatures on the forms. But that aside, they were the wrong thing to do. We were bullied, as you heard from everybody here, into signing these easements. And so when I said we were freely signing them, I said, "Of course we're freely

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signing them. We need the sand. Who's going to quibble with a gun at their head? But in reality, this was the fault of the core and we were pushed to take something that wasn't fair and wasn't right. And you hear that reflected in your own

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community members here tonight. So, I would say to you, this isn't really your fight. As you heard from our attorney last time we met in January, you weren't involved in this in the beginning. >> I don't see why you want to get involved

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with it now. By me, the best thing is no action or vote no and do the right thing. You know, Bob spoke to this, but I'll speak to it, too. Look, I love my town.

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I I love what it's like to live here and I love you all being my government even though I disagree with you sometimes. Don't put yourselves on the other side of us on this issue. Please, it's not your fight. Don't make us fight you.

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We're going to hold our land. There is nothing that's going to stop us from holding our land. I'll guarantee you that with every fiber in my being. But please don't get on the other side of it. Work together with us. Oh, one last thing. By the way, some of you may not know this. I reach out to Mass Fish

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and Wildlife to collaborate with them even though they're a pain in the butt. And I'm committed to working out a solution that takes care of the clovers and figures out what's right and balanced on the beach. And I'm going to do that regardless. Please make the right decision. Thank

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you very much. Thank you. >> Well, this is this I think Mark realistically this is the second time that a lot of people come here and express their viewpoints of what's going on. I mean we have we have a lot to

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think of here and it's not just uh 24 26 easement holders on on Plum Island. It's it's we advocate for the entire town of Newbury. Okay. So, >> um, Mr. Chairman, can we can we, um,

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discuss as a board or just kind of reiterate some facts as we know them so that the public can understand um, >> the things that we were exposed to and listen to, >> things that we listen to so that everybody's all on the same page. >> First,

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>> um, I think well, I think what I'd like to do is first of all clarify these easements. um the easements and I do not disagree with the fact that you were staring down at a storm ready

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to eat up your homes. I I I don't disagree with that. I agree with that 100%. Um but the e these easements were all signed. So these ease mails are all these easements are all recorded. They're all they're already there.

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They've been there for 17 years. There's There's Nothing's going to take these easements off. There's I didn't hear What address were you from, sir? Street address. Yeah. What? >> 125 Northern Boulevard. >> Yeah. I don't believe that has an easement on it. I don't That's not

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included in these these easements. Um but it's not like whether we can accept the easements or we can deny the easements or we can't the easements are there. The easements exist. Um so that's the first

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the first thing. Anybody else want to clarify anything else about those easements? >> Um >> didn't this go in front of the town and they voted on it? Yeah. >> Yeah. This came before a town meeting in two 2009 and two 2009 the town meeting

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um voted in the majority. I don't know what the vote was but it was a majority >> to two >> it was a twothirds majority. So that's a a higher bar to authorize the select board the then select board to accept

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these easements. That was the vote. And for some reason that nobody can figure out, 17 years later, these easements were never accepted. There's no vote. Fish and

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Wildlife is in contact with our um attorney's office asking for the vote that these easements were accepted. They're they're looking for that. And I I asked what the importance was because in my mind, these easements are there.

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They already exist. We can't take them off. Why does the town have to get in the middle of it? I don't understand that. Lisa, if I misspeak, please correct me. And my understanding is that

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in order for the easements to become valid, for lack of a better word, effective, it the vote of town meeting isn't enough. It also needs a vote of the select board. So town meeting authorizes

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the vote and the select board needs to take that vote. Until that happens, the easements are not effective for lack of a better word. So that's what's happening right now. These easements are on these 29

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properties or such or >> 26 26 >> 26 properties. >> They're there. They're recorded on your deeds. These easements are there. There's no removing them. The town isn't going to remove them. There's no We don't have a mechanism or the authority

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to remove them. Um, so is any questions on the easements? I'd >> like to do a Q&A, but I think we kind of have to. Mark, >> this is just a statement of fact. Okay. The easements were not properly

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recorded. They are lacking signatures. I just want people everybody here to know that >> they were not properly filed. They are in the record. Yes. >> However, they are lacking signatures. So, their effectiveness is questionable. I just want people to know >> right now they're not effective at all

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because the select board has never accepted. >> I'm just making it clear though. >> Thank you sir. >> I just have James Anthony 125 Boulevard. Just a question. You've mentioned Mr. Chairman that how does it impact um all of Newbury in regards to the these easements?

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>> Well I mean that was catastrophic what I saw on the scene. If that happens again and that affects the sewer system and water system on Plum Island, it's not just 26 property owners, it's the rest of Plum

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Island suffers. How does that get paid for? If if we if if the government thinks that we are not in good faith that we accepted the sand, the beach nourishment based on the fact that we

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participate in the management of of the endangered species. If we don't do that and if we don't accept these easements, do you think the government will compensate us for additional sand in the future years? What are you going to do

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if this happens again? What what do you expect the town of Newbury to do if this happens again and we can't get money to fund it? What if the government stops issuing grants to us? We went through MBA housing issues in in the state. Some

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towns rejected it and the state essentially said if you don't do this, if you don't adopt it, you you you could lose grants. They pulled a grant that was already issued to Mil from Milton for the town of Milton. Okay, we don't

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really want to one of the things we're thinking about is we don't want to go through the risk of losing grants from the federal government or the state government. Okay. It's it's um so and you know the the town meeting Uganda

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support not just of Plum Island people to accept the easements to get the sand. Twothirds of the total population there said it's okay because I guess they kind of felt there's no other recourse to get

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the sand. I think that's what the literature said. Okay, we need to do this to get the sand. If we don't, we're at risk. I understand you felt threatened. Okay. And the other reality is for 15 years, you weren't talking.

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>> Well, we weren't Well, they said two the past couple years. I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt. For 15 years, >> no one talked about this. >> I don't think anyone out there called up DCR and said, "Hey, guess what? They never accepted the easements." You know that? I don't think anybody in the town

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did that. Okay. So, what happened? No trespassing signs. Audabon met no trespassing signs. DCS found out about it. A letter comes to the town that said, "Ah, what about the easement? We had an

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easement to get on the property to be able to monitor the birds." Okay, that's not happening. You never accept the That's how it That's how That's how the bear got poked. So I think >> so somebody mentioned uh I think it was

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Diane it was um it was a taking it was uh taking your land without just compensation um at the time and I know you guys are under duress. I know you were. I can can't even imagine if that was was me.

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But the compensation for granting those easements was the sand on the beach to protect your homes. >> Land, excuse land wasn't taken. Your deed says you own that land. It just

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happens to be an easement on it. >> No land was taken away from you. And the easement only requires I my understanding it only requires shore bird monitoring which is a whole another issue but it's not like I mean people are

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allowed to pass on the property anyways. Um, this is only the this Commonwealth's argument, for lack of a better word, is that is that they don't that they would

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like to come on private property, which I know is a is a rub. It's a rub would be rub me wrong, to monitor shorebirds. And the reason why they are allowed to do that on these particular private

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properties is because of the just compensation of the dredged sand that was put there. That's their argument. That's the law. Lisa, am I misspeaking? Well, it's actually a provision in both the Code of Federal Regulations and the

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state regulations that if you take dredged sand onto private property, you must grant an easement to allow wildlife monitoring. >> You must. It is only for wildlife monitoring. And that's the Okay, Mark, did you want

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to come up there? >> I'll let Bob go first and then I'll go. So again, I don't have an affected property, but certainly I was involved in this from the get-go. Going back to town meeting,

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you've all heard me say this before that there were two warrant articles. One gave the authority to the board and then the authority, the uh the commission you the select board used their authority to take two properties by imminent domain.

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There was no mention of the other 26 addresses. Now, we can argue this, but these opponents of contention that can be challenged. So, you take that. You've heard about that all of the easements that were signed did not have

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attachments. That's what the cover letter said. And they were supposed to be returned to the grantor or the property owner. the state added uh plans into the doc into the documents and recorded them. Again, both of those,

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you just create such a mess. And here's what happens. You guys become the bad guys because it's now the town of Newbury's easement. It's not the mess that DCR created that you had no role in. You didn't craft these documents. You didn't circulate

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these documents. You didn't record these documents. You did everything you were asked. You're 100% right. The easements are part of the record chain of title, but they're uninforceable because they've not been accepted. And then the challenge of whether they were defective

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or not because they've been altered, you know, altered. You add something to a document that wasn't there when it was signed, that's an alteration. Is it nefarious or is it is it an honest mistake? It it's something that a court of law will decide, not not the select

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board. And the the reality is is that there is no benefit for the town to do clean up someone else's mess. DCR

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uh or fish and wildlife at the very worst, you can resolve this matter at any stage. Okay? But if DCR or the the state came after the town of Newbury, what that does is you can settle anything. You can

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settle it a week later. But what it does provide is everyone in this room that would have standing on this to become interveners on the case. Then they're going after the state, not after the town. And that's

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where you want to be. So it's a mess. There was a lot of good effort going on but there are a number of challenges and like minds can think you know we can look through different lenses. Uh but I I would suggest that you take no vote

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let them clean up their own mess. >> Thank you. >> May I? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Sure. >> So a few quick things. One is I believe you all know this. I know

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Tracy that you know this at least relative to the commissioner, but the commissioner of fish and wildlife called Tracy and said there would be no fines and penalties issued from mass fish and wildlife. That occurred because I talked to the

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commissioner, by the way. He didn't just call up on his own. He called because I spoke to him and said what you all what we all are feeling is the threat of some action from him. He affirmed there's going to be no penalties and fines. Correct.

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>> He um asked me who had threatened us with penalties and fines and I confirmed that I had not received anything noting that we would receive penalties and fines. >> Well, he stated to me as did Jesse Jesse Letic again many of you know whom who

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was horrified that he was associated with having threatened you all and us all that there would be no penalties in fine. So I just submit that to you all. There is no threat out there. No one's coming after the town right now. That's number one. It is a specious claim.

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Number two, I've consulted with the Army Corps of Engineers. You don't No offense, Bill, but you don't have direct knowledge. You're just repeating that. I do have direct knowledge. I have a relationship with the Army Corps. They said their

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main interest is public access. That's what they're interested in. Yes. Okay. To the birds. That's the way they say it by the way. Yes. Okay. To the birds to the side. But our main thing is public access. That's why we spent the money and that's why we did it. Okay.

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By the way, the fencing and posting which all of you know that went on in 19 2023 and 2022 essentially blocked the entire beach from public access. So, if we're thinking about public access relative to

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the exercise of the easements, please remember that the reason it got rolled back was because all of us said enough. Forget about it. You're not doing that to us. Lastly, to my friend, sorry I don't know you, sir, 125 Northern Boulevard. Nice to see you, Tony. Just

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for your information, if the town votes accept the easements and we go forward with what my esteemed colleague, Mr. Connor said, "We'll be suing the town for $10 million." That's going to have an impact on you, my friend. Something to think about and something for all of

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you to think about relative to the overall good for the town. I'm sorry to be so strong in my comments, but I'm fighting for our lives. >> So, there is other um besides

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potential fines that Mr. I can speak of which he is correct. Um >> I didn't hear you actually. >> No, I said besides the fines that you just spoke of, um what else can the state do to us is they can withhold

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grants. Um any state grant that the town receives? It's not only affecting Plum Island. We received a grant, a couple million dollar grant to remove uh Lenin Road Dam. Um, we received grants for

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culverts on urch on orchard street. We received grants from the state on culverts on there's one pending right now on culvert for central street. We receive a tremendous amount of money in

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grants from them and um those could potentially be at at risk too. >> Joe, do you mind speak? We have this job. >> He has his hand up first. Yeah. Come on back up, sir. >> Just know. >> Well, why don't you just do it from there?

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>> If it's easier from there, do it from there. >> Um I I just want to uh emphasize that the cause of the erosion was due to the jetty's malfunctioning

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at the mouth of the Marramac. It wasn't, the erosion wasn't caused by the property owners, the 26 property owners, yet they're being punished due to improper

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uh repair and uh uh construction of the jetties. Now, let me just ask, wouldn't it be possible to have an agreement between the town and

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those property owners to negate the easements? >> I'm not sure if there's a legal way to do that because they're recorded >> on the deeds. We take an agreement with the time. It would take an order of the court and

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you can be assured >> that the Commonwealth and the federal government would intervene in that action because again >> under the Clean Water Act the there is a code of federal regulations that requires those easements and so they're

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not going to sit back and not take any action. the town just can't a first of all the town hasn't accepted them but secondly if the town accepted them and then said they were willing to get rid of them you can be assured that there

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would be action by the federal court the feds and the state and it would have we would have to go to the land court to do it >> sounds like there's going to be action anyway >> regardless you I guess you should pick your poison right

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>> thank you >> thank you >> want to say Sure. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you for your explanation earlier about how it impacts the greater community. Appreciate your your wisdom on that. But I I also heard from Mark tonight. I don't know Mark personally, but I also heard from him,

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and I don't want to misspeak, but I thought you said something about collaboration, you know, and conversations with with uh the fish and wildlife to to work this out, you know, as a as a team effort instead of trying to have people go on property without permissions and so forth, putting up fences. And when people own property,

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that that would disturb you. Somebody walked onto your property and put up a fence without you knowing about it, right? So, I mean, I see an a great opportunity here for some some cross-pollination here, some some projects, some problem solving together as a as a community and maybe not get ourselves into deeper waters. So, thank

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you. I I think I think you you make a a valid point and and I mean one of the things that we've been talking about is these people that come onto property to monitor the birds. Okay. I mean

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according to the easement that's on record they're only to go in the easement property that part of the property only where the easement is. Have they violated that in the past? Yeah, they have. I'm sure they have. Correct. Okay. Yes. Um,

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>> so we're looking for some collaboration with them with DCR and Ottabon. So we have some guidelines in terms of what they can do to do their jobs and what they can't do, where they can go and where they can't go. So we're willing to work on that as part of this as a follow

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on to all of this. But the the the bear in the room is the easement. >> Is there any is there anything anybody else that would like to speak that hasn't spoken yet? Come on up, Dave. Hi, David Williamson, One Southern Boulevard. Uh, granted I'm on the

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southern side of the center, so this doesn't didn't really impact me. And I remember at the time hearing about a few holdouts from signing these agreements. And I thought at the time, selfless bastards, they're not going to help out the greater good and save homes, right?

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Um, but now, you know, many years later, those holdouts were actually the the smart ones and they should have held their grounds because the core came and they dumped all that sand. The next storm took half of it away.

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Many of us paid with our own money for choir bags. >> Mhm. What was the result? Quo bags got washed away. I can show you pictures of the last major storm. Um the you know

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there was about a foot of a quar bag left in front of my house and the rest washed away along with some houses at the time. >> I remember. >> Right. So, and and when I was talking to the Army Corps that was actually dumping all that sand, they said if this was

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Florida, the whole beach would be lined with rock. They do things right in Florida, right? So, because we were not forced to sign this these agreements because they weren't going to dump sand

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past the center south, we didn't have to sign. So, what happened? that allowed us to pay with our own money to arm the front with our stone seaw walls. And all these poor people north of us

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can't do it because they signed these agreements. And you say if we you don't recognize these agreements that'll prevent them from getting money from the government to put more sand. Well, sand is not the answer.

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And now, you know, and if you recognize these agreements, they won't even have a hope of ever putting stone in front, which is the only way to really protect it. And that's my comment. >> Well, thank you for the comment. >> Let me just ask a question. I mean, I

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heard >> I heard Mark say that. >> Yeah. >> Water and sewer that was put in was at a cost of $30 million. Is that what you said? >> I thought so. I >> I mean, I heard you at the podium. Yeah, I think that's what it was.

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>> So, so if this catastrophe happens again >> and that system is affected, are we going to ask the government for $30 million? Are they going to say, "Hey, we had a deal with you 17 years ago. This was the deal." >> Yeah. FEMA, Bill.

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>> There's other sources. >> FEMA is the one who restores roadways after they've been >> damaged. Yeah. But also, I do not believe the core would be inaccessible despite what you're saying. >> Okay. That's not the information I have from talking to the core. >> It is well documented that the shoreline

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damage was caused by a federal navigation project. >> Okay. >> According to Dr. Nicholas Krauss, >> okay, >> who was the foremost authority >> and a member of the core >> a timely approach that the core suggested because of the urgency was

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something beneficial use of sand. had it been determined or gone through the process of what they call a section 111 fixing damage caused by a federal navigation project. >> Okay, >> it would have been free. >> There is a study underway and there's an

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effort I'm not sure I think Jeff Walker may know from the MRBA meetings that they're initiating a section 111 in this area. >> Okay. So, at the end of the day, no one should have had to pay anything. They should have fixed the property, but this

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was the expedient way to get it done >> 17 years ago. >> 17 years ago. And >> yeah, >> we've all learned a lot about sand and litigation and coastal process and all that stuff in the meantime. So, the

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reality is, Bill, they were supposed to put sand in front of our places. We lost six homes. Did squad. The secret for us was Governor Patrick declared an emergency and allowed us to protect our properties and this town didn't get in the way and

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try to stop it although D wanted them to. And you now have uh you know a hundred homes that very valuable pay a lot of taxes uh that half of them are protected you know our lateral support

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is protected and and things are changing. Yeah, I can't discuss things that I'm working on. Uh, but we're working directly with natural heritage, which is the endangered species section going over.

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>> Yeah, this is with Mr. Jesse Lock. Okay, we're making progress. There's a number of things that you've heard at meetings that you shall do this and you're responsible for that. Absolutely unsupportable. They're relying on a handbook in 1997,

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never been codified. You know, they're asking you to do stuff, but they tell you you must do it. That's changing. Uh, and again, because of the sensitivity of where it's at within the foundation that I chair.

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Uh, but there's going to be changes coming is what I'm saying. Doing nothing causes nothing to you. If you think the state is going to give you a grant because of this, then we have the wrong select, not the wrong select board,

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wrong senators and the wrong congress people representing us. And the whole thing is you put 200 people in a room, you get what you want. And I'm talking at the state level, uh, you know, in a campaign. You're looking at the Plum

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Island Foundation, 500 members, highly organized, been pretty much dormant the last few years because we haven't had there was nothing to do. Uh but it's you have a decision to make. I will

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respect the decision that you make, but it doesn't end there either way. That's that's the trouble. That's right. >> Is there anybody else that hasn't been heard that would like to speak? Yes, Jim Mccclehey 72 Northern

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Boulevard. I actually made my feelings known. I sent in a letter previously to the board, but I just want to say that uh I'm told agreement with Bob and Mark and um back their position 100%. >> Thank you.

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>> Thank you, sir. Um, any comments? Any further comments about this this the easements in Plum Island? Did you want to talk about that, Dana? >> I I have two subjects and I'd like to address this one first if I >> come up and address that first and then when we're done with that, you can

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address the second one. We'll still >> Well, it's easy. >> Um, data packet 227 Middle Road. I feel for all of you, believe me. Uh, I'm a firm believer that you ought to be able to

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have and control your own property, you know, whatever that may be. Uh I also and you can correct me if I'm wrong but uh I'm I'm kind of involved with the Jetty issue and through Ronnie Barrett and some other folks and the Army Corps

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of Engineers and and and my understanding is is that the Army Corps of Engineers is only responsible for the navigation of the river. They're not responsible at all for the erosion.

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However, my recommendation would be would be a no vote on on this issue from from the select board. I think that would be the right thing to do. Uh so that being said, uh the reason why I'm here tonight uh is because I wrote a

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email to Joy and the select board and I know later on you guys are going to reorganize and >> Oh, you already have. All right. Well, I uh I didn't know I was out of turn, I guess, but I just wanted to request to be appointed to the Eastern Aztecs

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Veterans Board of Directors, and that's why I'm here tonight. >> No, I'm I'm sure. And and tr trust me, I respect you a lot for what you do with veterans and what you try to do with veterans. You were on the Eastern Essex district for three years, and I'm sure

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you're very familiar with their bylaws. Article three, District Board. The district board shall be comprised of the chairman of the board of selectmen or his designate in each town. When you were on the board for three years,

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Alicia was the chair of the board. She was not a veteran. And I think the the the mindset was a veteran should be on that board. You got appointed to that board. And the reason I took that position last year is I was the chair of

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the board. So that's the that's the don't take it personally. Okay. >> I don't >> Okay. >> And I just I just I just want you to know that, you know, I know when I was on the board and people sent in an email requesting a position and they didn't show up. Uh it wasn't looked on very

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very well. And that's why I'm here is because I did request a position. So therefore, I'm going to show up. >> Okay. >> And I I I I totally appreciate your explanation. I think that's fine. >> Okay. and and I was sincere about what you've been doing with veterans, the

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Council on Aging lunchon, the Memorial Day parade, what you've been doing that for a few years and reach across America you took hold of and you're probably getting into the flags as well. So >> yeah, I hung them. >> I know, I know, I know, I know. So,

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>> but thank you. Thank >> you. Appreciate it. Okay. >> I appreciate it and best of luck to all of you. Um I'm I'm my parents owned homes on Palm Island. My grandparents own homes on Palm Island. And uh and I I

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just think that I would recommend no action. That's all I would recommend. >> Thank you very much. >> Thanks very much. >> Is there anyone else that wants to speak that hasn't spoken yet? >> I think Go ahead,

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>> Chair. I I recommend we don't do anything on this. I I >> And we've heard a lot once again, we've heard a lot from from the people that are here. We we've heard a lot from you. >> We we discussed a lot of things ourselves, not only in executive session, but

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>> and town council heard all of this, too. I'm glad she's here. Thank you, Lisa. Jeff, did you have anything to say? >> Was that his vote? We're not We're not going to vote. Please try.

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>> You can have it. >> I, for one, I'm I'd rather not vote tonight. I took five and a half pages of notes. We got these things that I still want to read through. I want to absorb everything we heard. >> I don't want to make a decision until I've had a chance to reflect on this. I agree. And I understand

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>> we went through this once already before. I understand we're back here again, but I'm I'm I don't want to operate where we just make a decision like that. I have a request. >> Sure. >> That we get two weeks advanced notice of when you're going to do this because we're getting a little June >> 9th. Yeah.

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>> Two weeks. >> June 9th is the date. >> June 9th is when you're going to do this meeting. >> That's the select committee >> meeting. Okay. >> Not okay. But I'll figure something out. I'm in New York June 9th. But I'll I'll I'll get my butt here if I have to rent

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an airplane. But I'll be coming for bear. So you better watch out if I fly myself a private airplane to get here because really I just want you to understand for us, okay, we have to

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mount it up again. For you, you're no offense, but you're doing your job. Us, we got to mount it up again every time this happens. I'm not saying you should decide tonight. I'm expressing to you as your community member a frustration with the process. >> I understand. And Mr. Chairman, I I

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recommend that we don't take any more anymore in information and I think we have enough information here from everyone and we use what we have to make a decision. >> Well, yeah, but we're still going to be

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here June 9th. You can count on that. That doesn't mean we don't have to show up just cuz you're not taking us our input. >> And it's it's a the whole thing is a mess and it's been dumped in your lap and that doesn't doesn't get lost with me.

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>> Appreciate that and I appreciate you, you know, wanting to be here on June 9th. I totally completely understand that. I hope you understand why I don't want to make a decision tonight. I wanted to hear everybody and I still want to think about everything I've heard. >> I actually do understand, Patrick. I do.

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And I hope you understand. >> Oh, understand. Yes. Yes. >> And I think I told you, Mark, I'd like to bring closure to this because it's dragged out for a long time and there's been a lot of time invested in this on both sides to try to make try to make a

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decision. Okay? And I respect what Patrick said immensely. We don't want to we want to be informed. We want to do it justice. We know what's important to you. What's important to you is important to us. Has your Has your

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landlord shut off the air conditioning in this room? It seems like it's 90° keeps calling. It's shorter, >> right? This is like a hot yoga studio. >> That was That was a deliberate tactic. >> Someone pay the bill. >> Well, I got I got

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>> Oh, so Mr. Chairman, this issue is disposed of for now. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, everyone. Again, thank you for your patience.

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>> This is important. This is an important issue. >> You guys are the ones up listening to us liquor licenses. Anything else exciting? Is this the rest of the night or you got >> liquor license? >> Liquor licenses. I thought it was all that >> I know who you are. You Thank you for uh

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clearing up the whole issue on the uh shortterm rental application. >> I'm sorry about that. I mean legal legal was supposed to communicate back to you what was going on. But I legally I couldn't. >> Are you on here for a shortterm rental?

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>> I blew out one. >> If you want to stay, you can. You're the first one. It's up to you. You don't have to. >> We haven't had other people stay to see if it's okay. I can call tomorrow.

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>> No, you'll get a food for a long night. >> I am a US format or anything like that. I don't know when this is based on my own to do right without fear without you

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know it's almost like we're all fearing the storm or something we cannot fear because they're not going to give us because when when is somebody going to stand up and say this is I am doing this because this is

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>> almost almost That's all I would like to say. >> And I'm sorry that I format. I just don't know how. >> How you doing? I was just like you doing over there. >> Hi Lisa. >> How you doing?

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>> Good to see you. Good to see you. >> How are you? >> We're down to the licenses. >> Um if if you would like to spare the poor IPS brewery who's been here all evening. I didn't know what I was getting into with this. >> I know. >> It's crazy.

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>> Some nights they're faster. >> Is that like a normal amount of >> No, no, it's my first time. So, >> we started at 5:00 close to a second. >> All right. >> People are just >> Thank you for doing that. So, I didn't have to

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>> come ask questions. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Lisa, thank you. >> Was that a threat? Was that Was that a threat or was that a threat? >> Well, no doubt about it. >> I'm just trying to figure out where the numbers come from. >> You're threatening us.

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>> You want to be walked out. >> Um, >> sorry about that. >> So, one day look a license. Is that what you're here for? >> Okay. >> Yep. >> All right. So, >> sorry. Go ahead.

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>> Mr. Chair, I'm I um We have some one day liquor licenses >> from May 31st. >> How about if we go through the list and just go by dates? >> Yeah. >> And approve them as a lump. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Okay. We're going to do one day liquor

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license applications for Hale Brewery for the Essex baseball event. Spenc Little Farm. May 31st from 11:00 to 5:00 p.m. June 7th from 11:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m.

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June 14th from 11:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. June 21st from 11 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. >> Motion to approve. >> Second. >> Any discussion? >> Hearing none. Roll call vote. >> Dr. Griffin. Yes. >> Alicia Greco. Yes.

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>> Bill Deo. Yes. >> Wesley Matthews. Yes. >> Jeff Walker. >> Jeff Walker. Yes. >> Thank you, Jeff. >> Cool. >> I have one question. Um, if I need to submit for more dates, are you guys down to >> one? Like, is there going to be a select board meeting?

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>> June 9th. June 9th. June 9th. >> Okay. >> So, if you could get it in before June 9th, that'd be awesome. >> Tuesday before is the day I need it. >> Okay. Perfect. >> All right. Thank you very much. >> All right. Thanks for sticking there. >> Yeah. Next time we'll move you right up to the top of the agenda, too.

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>> That's for the baseball, right? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> You want to do go back to what you >> um >> Governor's Academy. >> Yep. >> Still in liquor licenses. >> Yeah. >> Okay. One day liquor license applications for

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Governor Dmer's Governor's Academy, excuse me, for 2026 reunion at 3 Elm Street on June 5th. One Elm Street. >> One Elm Street on June 5th from 6 p.m. to 10 p.m. >> Motion to approve. Second. >> Um, roll call vote.

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>> Patrick Covenant. Yes. >> Alicia Greco, yes. >> Bill Deo, yes. >> Leslie Matthews, yes. >> Yes. >> Okay. One day liqu license application for the Governor's Academy 2026 reunion at 1 Elm Street on June 6th from 6 p.m.

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to 10 p.m. >> Motion to approve. Second >> roll call vote. >> Patrick Hernan, yes. >> Alicia Greco, yes. >> Bill Deo, yes. >> Wesley Matthews, yes. >> Jeff Walker, yes. >> Okay, we're all done with Gibson jail.

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How about these are all Bfield Community >> Art Center. I'll read them as a group if that's okay. One day liquor license application for the Bfield Community Art Center, 7 Central Street for a private party on June 6th, 6:00 p.m. to 10:30.

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>> You take them off. >> July 10th from 700 p.m. to 10:30 p.m. and July 19th from 4:30 p.m. to 10:30 p.m. >> Motion to approve. Second. Roll >> call vote.

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>> Ginan, yes. >> Alicia Greco, yes. Phil De Matthews. Yes. >> Jeff Walker. >> Amendment of Marramac Valley Public Health Alliance Intermunic. >> No, no, no. Let's do the Let's do Barbara first. Yeah, let's do the >> I don't have any here.

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>> The short-term rentals. >> Okay. >> Short-term rentals. Would it be okay if I read the list and if I had exception with one, you can flag it? >> Please do. >> Okay. Barbara Hopinson 64 Northern Boulevard permit str26-027

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Joel Olette 293 High Road permit number STR-26-035 Joel Olette 295 High Road permit number STR26-36 Josh and Rachel Moore 124 Northern Boulevard permit number STR 26-37

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Lyn and Dave Williamson one Southern Boulevard permit STR-26-38 Paul Vieiraa at 21 Forom Way permit number STR-26-39 Michael Fischer at 37 Southern Boulevard permit str26-040

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Aaron Anderson at 128 Northern Boulevard. Shiaos Shu 110 Middle Road permit under STR 26 042 Jeremy Mlan at 68 Southern Boulevard

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permit STR-26-43 Derek Saba at 30 Annapolis Way permit number STR-26-044 Joyce Miros 5 Sunset Drive permit STR-26-045 Michael Bactiieri at 20R Old Point Road, second floor, permit STR-26-046.

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Michael Bactiieri, 20R Old Point Road, first floor, permit STR-26-047. Linda Stuts, 18 Old Point Road, permanent STR-26-048. Al Ward, 80 Northern Boulevard, permanent SDR-26-49. >> Motion to approve.

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>> Second. Is there any discussion on any of these? Hearing none. Roll call vote. >> Patrick Griffin. Yes. Alicia Greco. Yes. >> Bill Deo. Yes. >> Wesley Matthews. Yes. >> Jeff. >> Thank you, Jeff.

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>> Thank you. >> Call in the morning. >> Policy here. >> Did I miss it? >> Oh, man. >> No, we can go back to that. That's for it all.

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Yeah, Deb's got two things. Two things. >> Sorry about that. Revision of the town of Newbury rodenticide policy. >> Deb, would you like to come up tell us what's happening? >> Okay. >> Please. >> Um, so yeah, I submitted your re revised

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policy, proposed uh policy to the board. The board decisions on more of a permanent type of waiver for the police station which has absolutely been a problem area in that area. We actually today I actually went out to

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some of the surrounding properties and have a video of um the rodent infestation problem like that every year. So um So, what's our motion to accept the um

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>> I'm trying to get there. Hold on. >> This one. >> So, you want us to modify? >> No, we want to modify. >> We want your This is your policy. >> So, we we need to modify. >> Yes.

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>> Not you want us. Um, we need to modify it. Um, okay. >> Things that, uh, council advised we clarify that you see in red as well as,

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um, adding a few of the the paragraphs. this you feel will help you with the infestations that you have? >> Um it's more to grant the waiver a longer period because of the fact that it's something that we want the at least

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the health department our job is for public health and public safety and that's our number one concern at this time. >> I can speak if it's a station that has a has an active issue. Um the things that

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we've tried aren't keeping the rodents out of the cruisers. So to have to re request an extension every six month six months is what I'm on right now. Um for a problem that I feel confident we know

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is going to maintain and continue to be a problem. Um we have feedback from some you know companies saying this is a problem. we are are we don't have a solution for it otherwise. So from my

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lens at least and by no means am I a expert on anything rodent or pest management but my fear is if we remove the escars or I have to keep going back for a waiver and I run the risk of not

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getting the waiver. Um we're putting public safety at risk. So until we can establish kind of use someplace else is the guinea pig of what type of pest management is going to work to keep it away from the cruisers. Um the the the rats come to the station at night, drive

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your headlights in, you're going to see glowing lights, glowing eyes come back at you like it's it's not a secret problem. You can see it if you pull into the driveway um on on the overnight shifts. Um, and there's been suggestions, a number of different

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suggestions, some that seem good, some that seem out there, but even one of the most recent ones was relocating the cruisers to the front of the station. Well, then that's putting my staff cars back where the rodent problem is. And we've already had staff cars that are

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parked where they want me to park the cruisers who have transported rats home. So, it's not just those back seven spots that I have that are the issue. It's it's my whole parking lot. Um I'm not going to put visitors to the park to the

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police station out back where the rat issue is. I it just um so I'm looking to kind of put this in the rearview mirror with keeping it on a mindset that if something better and alternative comes up, I will reconsider my stance on

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public safety. right now unfortunately I have to think of humans my officers and town liability and I think um trying alternatives right now in this setting I'm not the setting for alternatives

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until they're founded so that's kind of my take for the police station lens right now and I know there's groups that don't you know support my lens but that's my lens that's my priority and my commitment to the town >> the public safety priority is our priority as well.

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>> Yeah. Thank you. >> So, Mr. Chairman, I move that we amend the rodenticide policy as presented in our packets. >> Second. >> Okay. Are there any questions? Any discussion? So, a roll call vote.

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>> Uh Patrick Griffin, yes. >> Greco, yes. >> Bill, yes. >> Matthews, yes. >> Jeff, yes. >> Thank you, Jeff. On behalf of everyone who works at the station, you guys, thank you so much. I really I really appreciate this. Thank you. >> Thank you for what you

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>> Thank you for what you're putting up with. >> Never Never on my chief bingo card did I have learning about pest management. I just want to be clear about that. >> Can you share the craziest idea you've heard? I'm just curious. >> The craziest idea you've heard for getting rid of them. I

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>> I don't want to put any agency or individual on the spot, but privately I would love to share some of the ideas. that have been put that have been put on the agenda. And and honestly, some of them I've we've tried the dryer sheets,

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we've tried the peppermint spray, things that seem within reason, >> we're giving a shot to. Um, and we haven't seen success with it, but we have some that I'm like, >> all right. >> Yeah. >> Thank you.

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>> Thanks, Patty. Sorry you had to have waited out so long. No. No. Okay. >> And that's why they've been around so long. >> All right. Next is the amendment of the Merac Valley Public Health Alliance Intermunicipal Agreement for the Public Health Excellence or shared services

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grant to add the city of Newport. >> Okay. So this uh regional grant has been amazing for our town and the surrounding towns where we have a uh regional um health inspector uh for food

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inspections. We have soil evaluator to do our soils, public health nurse and this is all for if there's ever an emergency or if I'm out sick or if it's a conflict of interest or any reason um we can request one of these inspectors to go out and do some work for the town

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of Newbury. Um it it's been amazing. We also have an administrator, regional administrator who's created some um excellent uh spreadsheets for us, things like that. Um it's been a a win-win for us and same with the other communities surrounding. So new report wasn't in the

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MOU at the beginning. Um and so what happened was a new health director came forward from a new health director got hired last year and um being from the city he would belong to a regional group down south where he was from came up forward and said hey why aren't we this

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is an o brander why aren't we? So the border selectman chair and the border uh the I'm sorry the border health chair and the board of selectman chair have to sign off on it. They originally signed it off in 2023 when we originally did it, but now that new report's jumping

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board with us, which the more the marrier, um, we just had to redo the wholeou. So, nothing has changed except for adding the city of Newport onto this. >> Thanks. >> Okay. >> So, Mr. Chairman, I move that we um amend the Marramac Valley Public Health

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Alliance intermunicipal agreement for the public health excellence for the shared services grant to add the city of new report as requested. >> Second. >> Okay. I don't think there's any discussion on this. Roll call vote. >> Fouch. Yes. >> Alicia Greco, yes.

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>> Bill Deo, yes. >> Justin Matthews, yes. >> Jeff Walker, >> Walker, yes. >> Okay. >> Thank you everybody. >> Thanks. Review and approve 2026 business license renewals. General Business Auto/Marine Automotive Repair Anthony

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Mendes doing business as Zeus Performance LLC at 86 Newport Turnpike. >> Move to approve. >> Second. >> Roll call vote. >> Patrick Greffin, yes. >> Alicia Greco, yes. >> Bill Deo, yes.

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>> Matthews, yes. >> Jeff Walker, >> thank you. General business, Edward Lynch, Jr. doing business as Deetsson and Lynch Capital at 2628 Green Street. >> Motion to approve.

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Second. >> Roll call vote. >> Dr. Griffin, yes. >> Greco, yes. >> Bill Deo, yes. >> Russell Matthews, yes. >> Jeff, yes. >> Thank you. Review and approve 2026 commercial clam permit renewal

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application. Douglas Foley at 9 Bittersweet Lane. >> Motion to accept. >> Second. >> Roll call vote. Yes. >> The um fish commission is this all came

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through them and everything. >> Correct. They had to have a special meeting for these three, the one renewal and the two, but yes, they they did meet all. >> Alicia Greco, yes. Gil, yes. >> Leslie Matthews, yes. Jeff, >> yes.

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Okay. Review and approve 2026 new commercial plan permit applications. I'll do both. Justin Brown of 167 High Road. Josh Sava of 90 Middle Road. >> Motion to approve.

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>> Second. >> I roll call vote. >> Patrick, yes. >> Greco, yes. >> Bill Deo, yes. >> Matthews, yes. >> Jeff, >> yes. >> Okay. Next is review and endorse the chapter 70 report card letter. This is a

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letter that I crafted. It's buried in here someplace. >> Yeah, I've got the copy here. Here. Here's the >> You want this? >> Yeah, I saw that. It's addressed to to Governor Mara Healey and Lieutenant

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Governor and it's regarding analysis of Trighton regional state aid and local assessments comparing fiscal year 22 should No, that should have been 2002 >> 202. >> Yeah, it should have been 2022. >> It is 2000. >> No, up in the uh regarding

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>> Oh, that's a two two I get the I get the notation. It should be O2, I think. Right. Fiscal year 02 versus fiscal year 2027. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. In the very first

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typo. That's all. >> All right. >> Oh, yeah. I see the FYI part at the very Yeah. Yep. >> So maybe we can if we have to sign that, we can do it another time. >> I can type it while you sign in all your other stuff. So it simply says the

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following summary outlines the Triton regional local assessments in chapter 78 for fiscal years 2002 2027. It should that's another typo joy. I'm sorry. >> That's okay. >> The data used for this comparison was provided by Superintendent Brian Foer

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Trighton Regional District. The attachment A which is from the back was an attachment to this and all it does is say operating expenses in 2002 like 26 million. 2027 was 56 million. The difference between

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those two years was $30 million. That's an increase in that 24 year time period of 118%. Chapter 70 state aid 8.8 million grew to 9.8 million. It's an increase of

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almost a million. It's only a 10.4% increase in 24 years. Local assessments 156 versus 459, an increase of 30 million. Local assessments, the tax payer went up by

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194%. Regional transportation, the same kind of numbers. It went up by 80 $51,000, 5.9%. So I just said that these figures highlight a critical need for external support. The challenge requires a collaborative approach and our

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municipality is one of many currently navigating these circumstances. I think it's like a new statement of we need some help and we're not alone. >> I love it. >> Yeah. Okay. And I thought if we had signatures of the board and on the back

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send it to the local reps, Bruce, uh Brian, so on and so forth. And I'm glad you're including Adam. >> Yeah. Yeah, that was Tracy's idea to make sure we added MMA people on there. >> What? Jack, >> I said good.

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>> Yeah. >> All right. So, I move that we sign this letter and send it off. >> Thanks. >> To the governor. >> Second. >> Okay. Roll call vote. Muffin. Yes. >> Lisa Greco, yes. >> Bill, yes. Should

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we wait for the amendment? >> This is the date. So, >> yeah, this is just voting to sign it. >> We'll have it. We'll have it ready to sign. >> Okay, >> Leslie. Yes, >> Leslie. Yes. >> Thank you, Jeff. You said yes already. >> Okay. Thanks.

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>> Okay. Next is an evaluation of one day liquor license fees. There's a sheet in here in a telephone book. It is telephone but yeah >> okay that's Joy has researched currently we charge $50 per day for one day liquor

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license regardless of alcoh all alcohol or wine/malt newport charges $100 okay West Newbury is $100 all alcohol 50 for just wine and malt is 125 all alcohol 100 just wine

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and malt Salsbury is zero nonprofit $100 $100 for business. IPS switch is $50 for all alcohol, $30 for wine and malt. Hopsfield is 50. Oxford is 50. Hamilton

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is 100. We charge 50. So I >> think I just lost Jeff. >> Jeff. >> Hey Siri, call Jeff Walker. Call Jeff Walker. >> Calling Jeff. Calling Jeff Walker. Siri's voice got deep.

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>> I'm back. I'm back for >> Okay, we have you now. Um, so Jeff, we were looking at the one day liquor license speed comparisons. >> I heard that. >> Okay, so we do $50 per one day

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regardless of al all alcohol or wine and malt. It seems like everybody else is pretty much 100. >> Most everybody. Boxford and Toppsville still 50, >> but Newport, West Newbury, U

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Sal >> and Hamilton are all 100. How come Rally's not on here? >> Oh, is that >> What do you think they do? >> Is that two licenses or one license? Just one license.

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>> One day liquor license. One of them. >> Yeah. I don't know. Sometimes I think give people a break. It's expensive enough, but I don't know.

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I'll do what anyone wants. >> Joey, what are you looking that looking a Raleigh? Yeah, I I had tried to find it when I put this together for you and I'm just trying to see if I can find it quickly, but for some reason it's citing to a >> do we want to wait to get Raleigh or do we want to talk about this tonight? We

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can talk about it tonight. >> It's just one community. >> Should we do it for matched 100? >> Do you want to up it to 100? >> What was West Newbury had two different prices? 100 for all alcohol,

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>> 50 just for wine and malt. >> So the only ones who are eligible for an al all alcohol license is a nonprofit, >> just so you know. >> In new >> No, that's the the state >> the state >> to get a one-day liquor license, you have to prove that you're a nonprofit to

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be to be eligible. So like um Ipsswitch A when he was here before you, they only had were getting wine malt one day. So Just remember our revenue projections. We have lack of levy capacity. >> What do you think?

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>> Well, if we go up $100, we won't be the lowest at the bottom. We won't be the highest either. We'll be in the happy middle. >> Happy middle. Yeah. >> $100 in Hamilton. $100 in Salsbury, $100 in Haveril,

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$100 in West Newbury, and $100 in New York. >> So, Mr. Chairman, I make a motion that we increase our one day liquor license fee to $100. >> Any any discussion? I second for that. I'll second it.

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>> Any discussion? How how many liquor licenses do we issue a year roughly? >> Um I I'd say off the top of my head maybe 27 to 30 to 30. >> Um they are restricted under the law

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that each individual applicant can only get up to 30 a year. So um that's why we do have to actually track it. So someone like the BCAC can only get so many. >> Yeah. I believe it's just like for weddings

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and BCAC and >> usually um they have like the beer trucks at Spencer Pierce Little Farms. I'm just thinking of other ones that I've signed off on. Um and then you know nonprofit fundraiser type things, but

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it's it's usually those are usually the events. >> I made a motion and there's a second. I mean I'll do whatever Any discussion? Any more discussion? >> What are you thinking, Patrick? >> I'm just um I think maybe Jeff sort of I'm not super inclined to raise it

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because it's not it's not I take your point, Tracy, but it's not going to be huge new flow of money. And I mean, in a way, I look at that and I think >> we're not Hil and we're not Newberry Port, not Salsbury. So, we can stay just be Newberry. >> What did you say in in a year, Joy? How

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many one day liquor licenses? >> I think it's high 20s, maybe maybe low 30s. I don't have the number 20. Let's just Let's leave it. >> But to the person who's getting the liquor license, it may mean a lot more. >> So So you're saying leave it at 50.

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>> Leave it. >> Yeah. I I'm inclined to say leave it at 50. >> All right. So the motion is to increase it to 100. >> Are we voting? >> Yeah, we have. >> So magic effort in no. >> Alicia Greco. No. >> No.

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>> Matthews. No. Jeff. >> Okay. The next one is U entertainment license fee comparison. We charge $30 per one day entertainment license, $115 per annual entertainment license.

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Hamilton is 100 yearly, 50 for one day. Um, Andover is 85. Uh, Rowley is $100 annual, $25 one day, $20 one day on Sunday. Georgetown is

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$50, $75 on Sunday, $75 on weekly. HIPS, which is 100 on weekdays, and 400 annual. >> Wow. All over the map. >> Yeah. >> 30 one day or Sunday. >> We're at 115 annual.

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So, we are higher than Hamilton yearly, higher than Andover, we're higher than Raleigh. another size. >> How many entertainment licenses do we grant? >> We only um do approximately five or six

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annuals. Um that's why we had them come with their liquor licenses and then entertainment licenses are not that high. I think the number is under 10. >> Yeah. >> For one day. >> Mr. Chairman, I move no action on that

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one. Second. >> Yeah. If you get an entertainment license, do you have to get a liquor license, too? >> You're going to sell booze. >> Yeah. >> What the hell? >> All right. So, the motion is take no

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action. >> That's what I moved. >> Second. >> Second. I think second. Yeah. >> Roll call vote. >> Uh Patrick Everton. Yes. To take no action. Right. I'm confused on Greco is a yes. Dino. Yes.

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>> Matthews. Yes. >> Jeff Martin. Yes. >> Okay. Thank you, Jeff. >> Thank you for looking at that. Looking at that. >> Yeah, it's good to know actually. >> We did both of those, right? One day town administrator report.

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>> Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Um so we as you know we've just wrapped up the annual town meeting and the adjournment of the annual town meeting is the first step in working towards um completing our tax recap sheet and setting our tax rate. So now our focus is going to be on closing

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out 2026 and setting up 2027. Um, with the completion of the the annual town meeting and the budget, we have zero levy capacity in our operating budget and our revenue picture, as you know, is very bleak. Um, we have a

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current snow and ice deficit of almost 135,000. Our finance committee will be taking action on a reserve fund transfer request at their next meeting. We appropriate $150,000

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annually. Um we haven't had a deficit of this magnitude in quite some time, but we haven't increased our our reserve fund transfer line item in a long time either. So that's something that probably as time goes on, you want to

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think about um evaluating it and look. >> It's only 75,000, isn't it? >> I'm sorry. >> What's the reserve fund? >> 150,000. >> I thought it was 75. Okay. >> No, 150,000. >> Um, I just wanted to let you know too

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that uh Verizon has approached the town. I've been meeting with them. They're interested in providing cable television services in Newbury. Um, very excited at the possibility of bringing some competition into town. Maybe that'll

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help keep other rates lower. Um, but I do need a vote of this board to allow me to initiate um the cable television process, the the licensing process. So, >> with Verizon, >> yep, >> I move.

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>> Well, not with Verizon. We'll we'll invite >> invite >> anyone to to come in, but um >> who else is there? So, the motion is to >> to allow me to initiate the um cable television licensing process.

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>> Um I move that we empower the town administrator to initiate the cable licensing renewal process. >> Second. Any discussion hearing? None. Roll call vote. Patrick Griffin, yes. >> Alisa Greco, yes.

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>> Demo, yes. >> Wesley Matthews, yes. Chair for absolutely yes. >> Thank you. Absolutely. >> Uh Orchard Street and Middle Street uh Middle Road to Thorless Bridge Milling and Paving was set to begin today.

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>> Oh, it did. >> Yep. Okay. Uh Newberry, >> I'm sorry. Middle Road to Thrillow's Bridge. >> What did you say about Orchard Street? Orchard Street and Middle Road to Third Rose

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>> Bridge Milling and Paving. >> All Oh, wow. >> All of Orchard, I believe. So, >> okay. >> Yeah. >> Uh, >> so we're starting that season. >> Yes, we are well into that season. >> Well, they mil already today. Don't worry about already.

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>> Yep. >> The detour sign the out sign >> is super confusing. Um cuz when I took it and followed the sign, it was blocked off to get on the Boston road. So I had to whip around the other way. By the time Moren left the house, she went the

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other way and she had to whip around because she could go past anyway. Yes, they have definitely started the work. So >> I'll mention that to them. >> No, I'm happy for it. I'm happy. I'm super happy for it. Needs it. It's great. I'm glad they're doing it. It just was kind of funny way to start the day. Yeah. Okay. Um you may have noticed

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Newbury Town docks have been installed. The DPW assisted the harbor master in making some necessary repairs to the docks. Um, flotation elements, navigational aids are in the water, so that season's up and running, too. MVPC

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has notified us of a new initiative called Going With the Flow aimed at gathering regional data um to advance floods and and storm water mitigation. So, they're going to look through the

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throughout the community for flooding hotspots, identify those, and hopefully work with us to develop strategies in the future for applying for grant funding to remedy the situations. Um,

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what else have I got here? Uh, thank you to Governor's Academy for inviting Chief Fischer to attend the Anti-Defamation League 2026 Essex County Law and Education Day as a guest. I don't know, do you want to talk about that at all or

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um, Sure. It was um, an amazing breakfast, very educational. is um many of you know I was awarded was that last year was awarded um the Lapen Foundation um scholarship to go to DC um to visit

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the Holocaust Museum and and have the um the educational day specifically designed for law enforcement on law enforcement's role in the Holocaust and that was amazing. So this was just a very kind generous followup to that. um one of the Essex County Chiefs um

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Latcher um Chief Latcher received one of the awards um for them and then one of the teachers from Gov Academy received the education award. So it was an honor to be there uh not just with them but while they're one of their staff members received an award so it was a it was a

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great day. >> I think it was the dean of community and belonging Michelle Deaguani. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yeah. Nice. Um, and then just an update on the short-term rentals. Uh, 49

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permits issued to date. Collected over 12,250. So, um, the inspectional services department is moving forward. Joyy's keeping great track of it. >> That's That was just a total of >> That's just the permits. That's just the

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permit piece. Yep. >> Yep. >> What other piece is there? the piece that we just voted at town meeting once once the ag's office approves that >> and do we'll start collecting the tax fee as well.

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>> That's it. >> Thank you. >> Yes. >> Correspondence. Uh cable license expiration notice from the department of telecommunications and c I guess we don't need to do this cable advisory committee anymore, right? >> Nope. >> So this is something we can just

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>> Yeah. that we just voted to empower her. >> Yeah, that's it. Uh national grid notification to carry out late winter spring mechanical control cut surface for basil treatment on rights of it. Sounds like a surgical

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procedure. Basil treatment on rights of way that pass through the municipality. >> That document is in packaged someplace. I think meeting updates. See anything, Patrick? No, >> I don't have any meeting updates.

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>> Uh Jeff, did you have any meeting updates? >> No. >> Okay. Did I went to the Memorial Day parade Saturday? Is that was a meeting? But it was a very good thing to attend. >> Considering pouring rain, everybody was there. Yeah.

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>> Actually quite a few people there. >> Sir, if if I may, um apologies. The police department, we've always been represented. Um we send our officers over. We're very short staffed right now, but the officers were tied up with an arrest um on the other side of town.

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Is that what happened? >> So, that's the reason that we weren't represented there this year, and I I just wanted to share that with you, and I I deeply apologize for the lack of representation for that. >> Yeah, that's fine. >> Sorry. >> I got wind of the fact there was something big going on, so I

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>> Oh, hope you shared that with Tony. >> Yeah, I you know, we we're always we are we're always there. We always have a presence and it was unannounced um that we weren't going to be there because who would have thought we were going to have what we had it

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>> fully expect the fire department to get a call sometime. >> I wonder did that myself if they get a call while they're all sitting on the side of the road. >> We'll jump in >> because the uh across America >> a call came in for the fire department and they had to do >> Yeah. >> So that I just wanted to explain

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>> to everyone who was there the reason that we didn't have a presence this year. >> Very much missed. I'm very sad we weren't there. >> I think that's it for me, Leslie. Oh, I'm sorry. >> You went to DCC? >> I went to DCC last Thursday night. >> Um and it was interesting. It was

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scheduled for 5:30 and um >> Oh, because it was a sports sports event or something, I think. And um Linda was there from the school committee. Um, and hardly any people there. At the next

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meeting, he'll be interested. They're going to try to review the regional agreement, the Triton to for the third or fourth time, and they're looking for ways to, uh, do something to help decrease the budget that Triton has.

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>> Good luck to them. But but uh and that's why I wanted to have the meeting with this with this with the uh our new school committee people and ourselves CR people whatever the whole select board just to uh have some cohesiveness there. Leslie, did you have anything?

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>> I don't I don't have anything. Um I just just a an announcement that on the 27th of June 28th of June there'll be the

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veterans uh lunchon down at the >> Y annual afternoon lunchon. >> Oh good. I think I I I published on Facebook the veterans eastern Essex district fishing trip for veterans and I

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did go I'm sorry I did go to the veterans lunch last Wednesday and um >> at the council on aging. >> The council on aging. Thank you. >> Good turnout. >> Yeah, really good turnout. and and the U there's a representative for the outfit

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that flies people veterans to Washington DC for a day trip and he was having encouraging people to fill out applications to do that. >> That was nice. >> Yeah. All right. Review and approve minute meeting minutes the draft meeting

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minutes of 55 2026. >> Motion to approve minutes. >> Second. >> Roll call vote. >> Creon. Yes. >> Lisa Greco. Yes. Bill Deo. Yes. >> Lesley Matthews. Yes. >> Jeff. >> Yes.

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>> Motion to sign warrants. >> Um, did did we approve the minutes from the executive session in open meeting? >> Yeah, I checked. >> We did it already. Did >> Very good. Uh, motion to approve warrants. >> Uh, second. >> Roll call vote. >> Patrick Gin. Yes.

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>> Greco, yes. >> Yes. >> Leslie Matthews, yes. >> Motion to adjurnn. Second Dr. >> Captain. Yes. >> Greco. Yes. >> Deo. Yes.

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>> Okay.