To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all. >> Rolling on the cameras and all.
>> We should be on the air. I knew last week we weren't live. >> Can we mark live? >> Mhm. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. All it got was the pledge of allegiance >> and it wasn't live on TV.
And you said Jonathan had a long reason why. >> Yeah. I talked to him and he it was um Comcast. It we weren't the only ones. It was a real large geographical area that that went down. >> Oh, it was an issue. >> So they think it was a cyber attack.
>> So hopefully we're broadcasting tonight. >> Okay. >> Don't look at me. I'm not responsible for >> You're the cyber security man. >> Uh what if my thoughts? >> Wow. >> All right.
>> Tracy, would you lead us through this? >> Sure, >> please. Um, so tonight we'll go through the warrant and um take your votes. I'll record them and convin them to the finance committee who will be meeting.
>> They're meeting the first Tuesday. >> Seventh, I believe. >> In April. Okay. Uh meeting on the 7th and they'll take their votes. We'll start working on the uh finance committee appropriation booklet. get that ready for town meeting. And
um based on what you decide here tonight, if everything stays or things go or we change the order, we'll amend all that and then we'll um have you take a vote to to execute and we we'll make
the changes, Martha and Joy and I will make whatever changes you have and then you can come in and sign. >> When will it get posted? um technically can be posted after you sign it. Um
I believe there is potentially one more citizens petition coming in. Um we we think it may have been the one that was received today, but we're not sure. Uh so probably
wouldn't post it before April 2nd. >> Okay. To clarify, Tracy, tonight, are the votes roll call votes on each thing or is it a regular vote? >> It's just regular votes. >> Yeah. >> And the significance of a vote?
>> Yep. >> There's a debate once when Mike Doyle was here about what what the vote meant. And I thought it was twofold. It was yes, it should be on the warrant and yes, I support what it says. >> Yeah. If this if there's an article on here that you guys say, "Nope, we don't
want to take this up. we want to pull it off, we'll we'll take it off. Um, but the votes you're taking is you're support either in support or opposed to it. You as the individual members of the board and that's what we record in the >> rale from the rationale book.
>> Mr. Chair, may I ask a couple of quick questions just for clarification so I can take vote properly? I just um a better um definition of what the municipal waterway improvement means
and the other one is the UMTC what that acronym stands for. So municipal waterways is our harbor master account. Okay. >> So we we have mooring fees and motorboat excise tax that is established as a revolving fund. So those revenues that
come in, we have to appropriate those funds to operate the harbor master program in the summertime. >> Oh, year round, I guess. >> And UMTC was the unpaid bill. >> Yep. That is our unemployment carrier. >> But it's our unemployment expense.
>> That's the one that didn't come in until >> it didn't come. They had changed systems. the Commonwealth actually changed systems um software systems and they didn't generate the bill until after July 1st. So
>> after the fiscal year end >> and is that a 910 vote? >> It is 10 910 vote. Sorry, Tracy. If you felt that it should go on the warrant cuz people
should be able to, you know, vote for it. >> Mhm. >> But that you didn't particularly support it. What happens then? >> You would vote no. You would vote opposed. And and the numbers as they appear in the booklet, it's in favor,
opposed, abstensions. Yes. No. >> So if we vote to put on the war, we are supporting the article. >> Um so if you want to take anything off, let us know. But the votes you're taking
tonight, the votes are either in support or opposition or if you want to abstain to it. >> Can we go through these article by article? >> Yeah, absolutely. >> Yep. So, usually article one and article two,
you don't um don't take a position on those, right? >> Um I have a question about article two. Are we expecting any reports besides the the finance committee? >> As of right now, I have not received
notification from anyone that they're interested in making a report. um the um council on aging the directors of the council on aging will they be giving their report here or at the during the article? >> So most times and that will be a
conversation that they will have with the moderator but most times any kind of reports like that happen at >> the article um so it doesn't get lost. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, article three is just all of the the
salaries and compensation for anyone that is elected. >> And the only one that's changed in that list is is probably town clerk. >> Correct. >> Okay. So, I move that. Um Well, we don't >> Do you need a motion?
>> You usually make an affirmative motion. I move to approve. All right. So I move to approve article three. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Anyone opposed? Anyone abstaining?
>> So it's five yeses. >> Okay. Um, article four is the operating budget of the town and that we usually so you'll get your your books that will be printed. You'll have those soon shortly. Um, we're just
finishing that up now based on the votes at the last I mean the conversation we had at the last meeting. Um, but in our booklet, you'll recall it does outline every individual account that the town has. So anyone
that's interested in this is just you know the omnibus budget but all of the detail is in the booklet in the back. You can see it in the back >> in the finance committees appropriation booklet. Yep. >> All right. I move to approve article
four. >> Second. >> Okay. Anyone have discussion of article four? >> I'll take a vote. All in favor? >> I. Anyone opposed? Anyone abstaining? No. So, it's 500.
>> Medical 5 is our annual appropriation into the stabilization fund. We've tried to keep that at about $200,000 annually. Um, and that funding typically would pay for our capital plan like you've seen in
those meetings. Um, but what's happened is we haven't had the levy capacity to be able to put that amount of money. So over the last couple years, it's been reduced down to 50,000 and we're using a lot more free cash to fund our capital expenses, which is fine. It's perfectly
legal. I remember when we didn't have a stabilization fund. You did not. This will bring our balance if if this should be approved by town meeting, it'll bring our stabilization fund balance to about $22,000. >> How about a motion?
>> I move to approve article 5. >> Second. >> Any discussion of article five? All in favor? >> I. >> Anyone opposed? >> Abstaining hearing none. It's 500.
>> And most of these, you know, first truly nine articles, the people that are our regulars at town meeting are very familiar with. They're they're the same first nine we have every year. So, people are very aware of what they're
for. Like article six, we had talked about that. other post-employment benefits. This at one point in time we were appropriating from from the tax rate, but now we don't again don't have the levy capacity. So, we're moving funds.
We're asking to transfer funds from free cash into this account. If this article should be approved, we'll end up with a little bit over $2 million and our total liability is about $6.7 million. So, we'll be gaining on it before we're
fully funded. We're gaining on it. >> Gaining >> slowly ever so slowly. But it does keep it in people's minds. It reminds us that we have that unfunded liability out there. >> I move to ex approve or accept article
six. >> Any discussion on article six? Hearing none. Let's vote. All in favor? >> I. Anyone opposed or obstaining? Hearing none. and it's 500. >> As part of our um understanding our our
oped obligations, we conduct an actuarial valuation every two years as we're required to do so. So in 2027, we're up the cost of the um valuation is 7,400 and that would be funded from free
cash. I move to approve article 7. Second. >> Any discussion on article 7? Hearing none. Let's vote. All in favor? I. Anyone opposed or abstaining? Hearing none. It's 500.
>> And article eight is our revolving funds. Um we have two currently. We have the recreation revolving fund which is the revenues are generated from field rentals and the municipal waterways and
improvement fund also known as the harbor master account. Um the revenues generated from the mooring fees and motorboat excise taxes. >> I think this was answered last week but I'll ask again because I can't remember the answer. Did the rec committee ask
for any additional funding this year or is 50k been because it's been constant for a while. >> So the the way it works it's kind of restrictive because it's a revolving fund. So the only thing that those field rental fees can be spent for is anything
relative to the fields maintenance of the fields, the sprinklers, the um >> you know the the mowing, fertilizing, those types of things. what's uh happened in the last few years as we're expanding the area with playgrounds and
basketball courts and pickle ball and whatever. Um they have had additional expenses, you know, they need to replace nets, they need to get more basketballs, all sorts of things. And they haven't had access to any funding. So this year
on the line items, the individual line items, there's a $10,000 expense, which is the only really new funding that we have in this year's operating budget, um, to allow them to have a an operating annual budget in which they can do those
things. You know, put up coat coat hooks in the fieldhouse and, you know, just small expenses. So, I think I think through your hard work between you and Cindy, they got clear clarification of what they can spend that $50,000 for. Okay. For the
first time in a long time, which is good. Yes. >> Which is good. >> Yep. We made a lot of progress this year. Yeah. It's confusing. >> It is. >> So, I move to accept article 8. >> Second. >> Any further discussion?
>> Let's vote. All in favor? >> I. Anyone opposed or abstaining? Hearing none, it's also 500. >> So, art article 9 is our uh one and only enterprise fund. We run an ambulance
enterprise fund. What that means is all the costs are encompassed within that one system of accounting. So their revenues, the fees generated from the ambulance runs pay for this program in
its entirety. It pays for the manpower. It pays for the expenses. It pays to purchase or or at least in our case the ambulances. It um it pays for even the indirect costs. So the costs that um the town
incurs to pay their payroll and pay their expenses, we we calculate those those costs as well. So they are a full enterprise fund and that is the the um estimate of costs to run the program this year.
It's about I think it was about $4,000 more than last year. Can I see the old one? >> Oh, the old one right there. Yeah, >> it all right. I move to accept article 10. No, article nine.
>> Second. >> Any questions? Any discussion here? Hearing none. Let's vote. All All in favor of article 9. >> I. >> Anyone opposed or abstaining? Hearing none. It's 500.
Article 10. So again with you know thinking about the enterprise fund they have some expenses um that some equipment that needs to be replaced. So just like we as an individual municipality at the end of our fiscal
year look at what our our final operations are and certify a free cash. Same thing with Triton. Same thing with the enterprise fund. They certify their own free cash. Um, and these these items, uh, payment on the lease of the
ambulance. I think this is the third year, the seven-year lease if I'm not mistaken. Um, cardiac monitor defibrillator for 45,000 and a Lucas chest compression device for 25,000 would all be funded from the
enterprise fund, free cash, ambulance enterprise fund. to my note from last time said that uh the chest compression devices we have two and we need three one for each ambulance. So that's for one. >> Y >> um and and the lease payment for the
ambulance is year three of seven. Is that correct? >> Three of seven. >> Seven. Um sometime is it possible that the select board can ask bio protection company number one
for um $70,000 worth of a charitable donation to buy that >> those two items the last two items. >> You can always ask them. >> You can always ask them. Okay. Yeah, >> there's also later on there's two um
there's funding for two hydraulic extrication tools as well, >> right? >> Any of those I think would be within their charitable mission. >> Okay. >> So, if we appropriate at town meeting >> and then um the charitable contributions
come in, >> the money will just tie back >> just closes back out to free cash. I should have mentioned that um we try to make a point of saying that at town meeting sometimes we don't always remember but these are the needs of the
community. Just because it's voted at town meeting doesn't mean we're not going to um try to get grant funding. We always try to take advantage of all those opportunities whether they're state or federal opportunities. So it is not uncommon for exactly what you
described to happen. >> The the last number I heard for grants that everyone in town hall collectively got was like 1.3 million. >> Correct. >> Which avoided tax hardearned taxpayer money. >> Correct.
>> Thank you, >> Tracy. Does this leave their free cash with high, you know, look good high water marks? Um, if everything should be approved, it would leave them with about 122,000 in free cash, which is
decent for them. >> Okay. So, I think we need a motion for article 10. >> Move to accept article 10. >> Second. >> Any further discussion on article 10? Let's vote. All in favor? I. >> Anyone opposed? Abstaining.
None. 5 0 to 11. >> So, article 11 is the feasibility study that we discussed last time. The $250,000 number was an estimate, but it would include feasibility and conceptual
design of the location. they they could consider alternative locations, but primarily based on the outcomes of the senior center meeting at this location on Kentway, I think it's about a five
five acre parcel. Um the question have for you is we we kind of segueed into conversations about fire station on Morgan A as well where we're looking at significant repairs there. Um
the chairman of the finance committee had mentioned increasing that amount to 500,000 and doing both feasibility um and conceptual design studies simultaneously. But the only thing I would say to you is
if you're going to do that, you need to be pretty sure about where you want to put these things. Um >> I don't think we're ready for that to that leap. I have a concern of bringing something like that to town meeting and not being prepared to because I couldn't answer that question. So I don't I think
at this point Well let I move well can we change the lang I think we may need to change the language. >> Yeah. So I don't know how what's the feeling of the board. I I think that we need to have a little more meat on the bone for
>> combining >> to bring this to town meeting >> meaning senior center and town hall. >> Yeah. I mean we have a lot of work done for the senior center. Damon has done all that work. He's very wellversed and
he can speak at town meeting and explain what he wants and why he wants it and he has the the facts to back him. I'm not so sure we have those answers for the for the town hall. >> We have all the preliminary work done
for the town hall at 25 high, right? We have a whole project all of that work done. So in terms of space needs and all that kind of analysis, we're we're we're done with all that. it it hasn't changed. Um, but obviously a design,
preliminary conceptual design would likely look different if you're doing a combined facility here versus a a standalone facility there. Um, this board has never discussed it. This board has never taken a vote on it. >> Right. >> I don't see how we can bring that to
town meeting. >> So, you you would prefer to see the article removed. I would like to see just the conceptual design plan for the senior center and let Damon speak to it himself, I think. But what's the what's the tenor of the board?
Oh, I mean I I see this as as um engaging a professional engineer who is more skilled and versed to evaluate the plan that a group of volunteers and a senior
citizen put together. I think they had an understanding of the space needs. But in terms of will this will this fit here? Will this fit there? Can the ground support it? The engineering part of of a structure. I think that's what I see that study
But I think Alicia's right because we we aren't prepared for that personally. We would have to >> what's that when you say >> to bring it to town hall that would release that would release it to have the study done. >> I don't think that we're I don't think that we're ready on that either.
>> I need you to clarify that. Are you talking about the town hall project or the or the or Damon's work? >> Both. Damon's got his work done. >> We had we had an extensive meeting on Saturday to go over what they what they went through.
>> Damon is very well prepared to >> and I think Damon recognizes that that ad hoc committee didn't have the science to be able to evaluate it in terms of an engineering possibility.
>> Okay. And I think that's what that study does. Not only for um the concept of the plan itself, the space, but where to put it. Okay. I think they they made some assumptions. They made some rankings of sites
um different sites in town. And and I think this feasibility study should look at Damon's package. Say, did you I understand how you did it. Let's let's look at it from an engineering perspective, a professional perspective. because their recommendation was to add
on over at over here at the library. So they need to next step I think is to have an engineer look at it and say whether or not that's actual feasible to do their concept >> and on the reverse side they ruled out
some other locations which a professional engineer might say your reason for ruling out another spot was >> could be challenged or inaccurate. >> Yeah. I think it lends professional credibility to what Dana's group
proposed. >> And I think that if town meeting approves this, I think like what we have for the 25 high road proposal for town meeting, you'll have
something that we can move forward with if the town decides to do that. if a lot of that discussion though had to do with um both um Frank and Erica um discussed the fact that you could probably lose the entire article by vote because of
those two >> that's why it's separate a separate article broken out for that reason >> and the 250 number is >> in your estimation is enough for both senior center and
>> so we we contacted the um to get the estimate We contacted the architectural firm that had done the work for the town hall at 25 High Road because so much of it's already done. He said, "If you're
considering um" and he spoke to Damon, so this is secondhand, but if you're considering making that your civic center complex, most of the town hall work we've already done. So we could do both for the 250.
So that in all likelihood if you're just looking at a standalone senior center um then that that fee will >> it will cost less. >> But so town town would be agreeing to the town would be agreeing to spend up to
>> oh it's always up to >> because honestly I came in I came in thinking the way um the finance committee chair had sort of put it like let's put a bigger number out there and put everything in. But I take your point that we've not actually as a board discussed that. And so
um I mean I I very much lean towards saying let's make this just the senior center. Um but I but I also very much lean towards saying supporting it because we've got to to to um
uh Mr. Jpersonson whose first name >> Marshall's point last week >> every year that we don't do anything the costs go up. So at some point we're going to take a step and we're going to have a feasibility study and conceptual design for a town hall. >> We're going to have that at some point.
>> I think that's point has to be after after May 5th. >> But we already but we already have that right. >> So we have that work done >> and it has to be communicated. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And I think that when this article is brought forward at town meeting, I'm
more than comfortable standing up and speaking to the fact that there are significant capital needs that the town of New has. This is just one one of them. Once we get this feasibility study done, I think the board should convene
and discuss the capital needs overarching. >> And that's what Marshall proposed to to to >> Yeah. put together. Okay. And I >> but we already have the town hall work done. We don't have anything to do with the council on aging done.
>> We have the town hall work done at that location. Just right to Yeah. >> So it's look it's looking at another if you did it at another location isn't feasible. >> Correct. >> Period. And if I'm not mistaken, Damon and Cindy are trying to pursue grants
to eat into this 250. >> We got denied today on one of them. They she told me, >> but we haven't exhausted all our That's right. That's right. >> So that's what I think. >> So how do we modify the article
strikeout and town hall? >> Mhm. To see if the town will vote to transfer from free cash sum of $250,000 for a feasibility study/conceptual design plan for the senior center strike and town hall.
So I move that. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> Any discussion? >> Any further discussion? >> Any further discussion? We've had discussion hearing. None. Let's vote. All in favor of article 11 as we just changed it.
>> I >> I. >> Anyone opposed? >> Opposed. 410. >> Article 12. Article 12 is what is our capital? Um, >> one sec. Let me let me just understand
this a little bit. I mean 25 high road is not on the agenda but um if this failed I mean this this if if you didn't do this you couldn't even evaluate if in Dana's if in Damon's
study they talked about 25 high road so if you denied this you wouldn't even be evaluating whether their space needs could be done at 25 high road. There's a lot of churn in town that people think it could be. But but on the on the negative side, if this
didn't fly, then someone stands up and says, "Let's put the council in a 25 road." Is it feasible to do that? We don't know. We didn't do a feasibility study. >> Right. So by saying no to by voting no to this, I believe what Leslie is saying is she does not support doing voting any
money from free cash to support a feasibility study done by Damon. >> Correct. Yeah. Okay. >> That's her that's her vote. >> I just want to clarify in my own mind as well. >> Thank you. >> Article 12. >> Just before we get to article 12, the 40,000 will stay under article um well
that's article 12. Will the $40,000 stay in there or is that going to be broken out or >> No, that stay. So article 12 is our capital plan. Okay. that is our um capital expenditures as evaluated by um the capital planning committee the
meetings that you were at. So this this would in effect be approving our the town of Newbury's capital plan which includes the peg equipment purchase, the emergency management response vehicle, town piling replacements, Morgan a fire
station reps, the extrication tools, um the record software, senior center. Oh no, I'm sorry that should have come out. It didn't. Okay, about that one should have been that um
and the COA transport vehicle. >> So I >> So that number will change the 1.236 will change. >> Can I make a motion um to approve article 12 with discussion?
>> Uh yeah, second. You got discussion. >> Okay, discussion. I have a genuine concern that if we I know we like to lump these all together. It's our capital plan, but I have a concern and it's a real concern that if one person doesn't like one thing on
this, they're going to vote the whole thing down. >> Town meeting doesn't vote like the whole thing. I know we we've broken we have not broken them out in the past, but I think that there's certain expenditures in here. in town. Um, the Morgan AB fire
station repair is one one of them. Um, I I think we should break these out and have more articles. I know Tracy doesn't want to do that, but that's what I want to do. >> I'll do whatever you want to do. You want every one of >> I know we're working towards a consent budget. Yeah.
>> I know what we're working towards, but I just think the town of New is not ready for that. >> We've done it the last two years. >> I know. and we get robot but we get we get a lot of debate on town meeting floor and >> I'm really worried about >> so you want each one separate
>> um >> I don't know what's how does the board feel do you think we could lump the fire department >> the three fire department the most significant >> in one um four so I >> I can't put that in with the fire
department because Oh do you mean the other article lump it in with the other article >> No I mean take take like >> um perhaps take the PEG I think we need to break them all out >> the PEG the PEG equipment purchase what
is that and who's going to speak to these capital expenditures at town meeting >> so the IT director okay so the management director the harbor master >> so let's this this 10 this is important this $10,000 >> for the peg equipment is that to move
>> it is to 20 to 20 to move it from 500. >> All right. And that should fix our problems with >> as far as I know. >> Yeah. Until we have more problems. >> Why would they >> the article on the fourth if they didn't
want to pass one part of it? >> Um, >> I don't know that answer. No, I don't know either. >> I guess you have to rank Well, you have to rank them. >> But if I mean I know I know you're thinking of separating them, but if someone were to explain that
and if you looked at >> what capital planning put out, it said by doing that you'd save an estimated $11,000 a year in perpetuity. So by spending$10,000 to move it from 25 high road, you'd be saving $11,000
for years to come. I mean to me that's sounds like it's a good deal. >> Well, if we let's just >> if it's explained. Okay. >> Well, that's the thing. So, if we move article we move article 12 at town meeting, >> then we're going to have to have a
conversation about each one of these. >> So, we may as well just break out the articles and vote them as a stand a standalone. >> Okay. So just just so I'm clear, you want them all separate with the exception of the fire station repairs,
the extrication tools, and the record software. You want those in one article. >> How about the emergency management response vehicles are >> That's PD. >> Okay, >> that's PD. >> So I mean, we can >> they're all public safety, >> but it's all public safety. I mean, I would say lump those four together.
>> Say public safety. >> Yeah. Into a public safety one. And then >> I think you could put the peg equipment with the town dock piling. It's call that the common sense uh we're just got to pay for stuff >> article because I recognize that it's
completely different justifications. One is moving equipment, the other is literally replacing it. >> Can I bring your attention to article 13? Okay. because those are also um so those are also articles common sense articles like you said that are going to
come from free cash but they don't rise to the crit to meet the criteria of our capital plan they're not over 10,000 they don't necessarily have a useful life of over five years but if we're not doing it as a capital
plan and you just want to move them do you want to keep those together or are you saying move the $10,000 for the peg equipment in the town dock, 22k for the town dock down to the article 13. >> I I don't know. Can you do that? >> I can do whatever you want.
>> Well, I mean 12 talk 12 talks about capital purchases and 13,000 is special. >> Yeah. I think it's I think what you just said a second ago about the the it's over 10,000 last more than 5 years. It should be its own it own thing. But but Peg and town doc filings get they don't
go together in any way other than the fact that they're two things that we're spending more than $10,000 on. >> Okay. Okay. >> All right. So separate except for the >> and then the fire department. The fire department 1 2 3 4. So the PD is going
to is the emergency vehicle response. How old is that vehicle again? I know we already had this conversation. >> I forget what you said. Do you remember? >> I can't remember. Let me see. All right. >> 07 >> 07 >> 2007. Yeah. >> I was going to say 17, but I think
you're right. >> Are getting more expensive every year and Russ is taking its toll. >> Okay. So, that was an 07. Um, the hydraulic tools, >> the jaws of life. >> Is that something that we could >> ask? They're pretty old.
>> Oh, ask. Yes, we could absolutely ask the fire company. And we also um the fire chief will be applying for grants for that. Um but they absolutely need to be replaced. >> What you say? One is 22 years old and one is like 19.
>> So they they may not be able to be reertified by >> correct. >> Okay. That answers that that question. >> Okay. And this Morgan A fire station repairs the report that the town has that was done. I believe we took there
was $711,000 I believe was the total >> estimate to have all that work done. We've done 10,000 of it last year$100,000. >> I mean $100,000. Sorry. 100,000. I left off a zero last year and then this year
we're going to try and get the rest of it done. It's the more significant cost is the plumbing, the electrical, the >> Who's going to speak to that? Um, the fire chief, I would assume. Yep. >> Okay. Because somebody needs to make I
We need We need a show and tell for this. >> Some graphics. >> We need the pictures that are in that thing up on a >> um >> on a screen. >> It can't just be we need $611,000. >> Yes or no? graphs and
>> it's got to be >> no actually photographs there and yeah and that too >> why do I need to vote yes for this >> um and the record software it's because theirs has gone defunct right they don't
it's unsupported >> we we currently use IMC um and that's through both public safety agencies but there was conversation that they were no longer going to support the fire side They're saying now that they think they
might be able to, but there's nothing definitive and that the time has come. We can't keep waiting. So, um it it we need to make the appropriation, but whether or not we need to make the expenditure is is questionable. >> Remains to be.
>> Yeah. Um I know Chief Evans has gone to a meeting and they said they're they're considering continuing to support it, but they won't give a commitment. they won't sign a contract. So, we're a little concerned about that.
>> I mean, one thing about the 611, >> a lot of that is plumbing, >> right? >> And safety and showers and washes, >> electrical >> and electrical. Okay. And believe it or not, that makes that
building probably something that'll stand there for 20 years. >> Right. >> Right. and could even have a small addition if they got a different kind of truck. >> Well, this >> this isn't probably stupid. It would
have been stupid if people said, "Oh, we're going to rip the building down in two years and build a new building." >> Correct. >> Right. >> Correct. >> We're not going to There's nothing wrong with that. It needs a little 611. >> No. needs a little TLC, which we're
going to give it, and then it'll last a long time. >> And if you if you walked through there and saw the conditions that those people operate in and and live in, uh there's there's a lot of space there. There's there's a spot where the TV is and the couch. It's about 50 ft square. That
should say this is bigger than my living room, but I mean, it could be laid out differently. The bunk area could be much better shape if they had proper lockers like they have at the the police station. They could stow their gear there. If they took a shower, they don't
have to worry about fecal matter coming up from the drains as they do today. >> Okay? So, it's, you know, it's like if you're going to buy a car, if you wanted to buy a new car and you were saving your money for three years, you'd still put tires on your old car and oil
changes in your old car for three years. you'd still maintain that because you needed it and and u that it needs that that kind of attention. I think >> well plumbing is expensive anyway, but I mean you start to look in your mind, you can't help but feel over your shoulder
that you could have a police and fire and town hall there and you'd be halfway done paying for it. >> It's in the rearview mirror. >> It's not in the rearview mirror. If you're in the rearview mirror and you're forgetting something like that and we're
the only town >> in the state, >> I don't know. Not good. >> It's going to come back to bite us intensely. >> It already has. It already has. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, are we comfortable with that? Putting the public safety in one.
>> So, it adds up to 914,000. So the article would read to see if the town will vote to transfer from fee cash the sum of $914,000 for the following specific capital purchases outlined below. Emergency management response vehicle 69,000. Morgan app fire station
report 611,000. Hydraulic extrication tools two sets 134,000. Fire department records sell for 100,000. >> For public safety >> for public safety >> specific public safety capital purchases. So right sorry for following
specific public safety capital purchases. >> Um and then the next one along that same vi vein would say for the following specific >> capital purchases >> capital purchases and it would be the remainder
>> yeah 32,000 for peg equipment purchase and 22,000 for town dock piling replacements. Can we talk about the COA transport vehicle? >> Can we talk about that? >> Do they have >> Do they have um do they use the NEATE
program? Do they need this or is this a nice to have or is this a must have? >> What's this? >> Huh? >> What's this? >> The Council on Aging Transport Vehicle for $40,000. Remember the conversation with the with NE was that they won't
accept people that have um wheelchairs. >> Wheelchairs or walkers >> and walkers. >> Okay. So, NEAt won't accept but but we have the van for that. >> Mhm. >> So, wheelchairs and walkers to dispatch the van to send someone in a wheelchair
to Boston, they're obligated to have uh someone in the back of the van in addition to the driver. So the driver, they have a driver, but that would take someone one of the three people in the office to go in the van to go to Boston for an appointment. Um, if you had I think the thought process is
if you had a vehicle, someone in the staff would drive that vehicle. Um, is it nice to have or have to have? I'm not sure. I I really I really I really can't answer that. >> Going to save a lot of dents on the van.
It's going to save a lot of dents on the van driving. >> Well, that that too mileage. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, I don't know if this is a nice to have or a need to have. What's the request from Council on
Aging, Tracy? What was this? A nice to have or a need? They're they're right up said the council requests funding for a used vehicle to take clients to various meeting and appointments without having to utilize the large van. The smaller vehicle would be driven by volunteers. Staff, it's not volunteers. It's staff
only. That volunteers was not correct. It's staff only who are not authorized nor in some cases able to drive the large van. It would cost less to operate than the van and it would provide a new level of flexibility to the council on aging to provide needed transportation
to our seniors. So that that's u what capital planning reported. >> Can I read that? >> Thank you. So, have they got any of the um money that gets donated to them saved
that they can put towards this? Do they have a fund for that? >> Cindy has no fund. The friends of the new council on aging has money. >> They do, but but uh they did not contribute to the large van even.
>> So, they appropriate to Cindy about 12 $20,000 a year or last year it was 12,000 I believe. Um, >> she could certainly ask. >> She could ask. She could ask them. Yeah. >> Tracy, the council, the uh planning
committee scores these requests. This one was scored at 20 out of 55. What does that mean? It's a lower priority. >> Okay. Um, I don't know. What's the tenor of the board? Do we want to keep it on the warrant and bring it to town to town
meeting and have town meeting decide >> or do we want to take it off? >> I would leave it on. Let let the the voters decide >> a little bit more clarification in what
kind of vehicle it's going to be because the suggestion was a small sport utility >> used >> certified >> certified pre-owned. >> Yep. a little different than just use
comes with warranty. >> Might get a dealership to help there too. >> I I think the chairman of their board notice some people who deal with car dealerships >> of the um leaving in this. So it would
be peg town docks COA transport vehicle. >> Okay. for a $72,000 capital outlay. >> So you want that in one article, those three. >> Yeah. >> Okay.
So then I would ask for a board vote on the public safety capital purchases and then the separate capital purchases. I'd need two >> the modified 12. >> Do you have a motion now, Joy? >> Um I have a motion to approve article 12
with discussion. That's all I have. >> Okay. So, >> it was with a mod modification to insert public safety after specific >> the value is 914K according to Patrick's math >> which we should check
math is hard >> which includes the public safety response vehicle the fire Morgan fire station the jaws of life and the fire department record software. Great. >> I'll second that.
>> Is there any more discussion on that as we broke it out just now? >> Let's vote on that. All in favor of that modified article 12. >> I >> I >> I >> Anyone opposed?
Anyone abstaining? 5 0 0 and then we have broken out the filings separate >> in the in the transport >> and the transport. >> So that is that would then become
>> and peg >> right peg. So peg do peg pilings and transport >> 32 and 40 is 72,000. I move >> that we put PEG doc piling and council
on aging transport vehicle in a separate article number to be voted on as a second part of a capital purchase at town meeting. >> Second. >> Any further discussion of that motion? >> Let's vote on that. All in favor of
that? I >> I >> I >> Anyone opposed for abstaining? >> Hearing none. It's 500. And article, what's currently numbered as number 13, um, is the balance of the free cash
articles, including the municipal offices security system for 9,000, public safety website design updates, 6,000, library purchase of a printer for 7,200, and the historic committee
requested 3,500 for celebrations and restorations. It is the 250th. Yes. Yeah. >> I move to um approve article 13. >> Okay. >> A discussion
um celebrations. Is that the money that they've always been asking you for every year? 3500 or was that 350? I forget. So we had previously I don't know what's your last celebration I don't know which one
>> the 350th or 375th or 375th because it's going to be the 400th >> um they had sold commemorative coins >> something >> celebratory coins and um they had an
account I'm not sure how it came about it was here before I got here that had about about that amount of money in. What happens with special articles is you're required whoever the department
head or um committee um chair if there is money unexpended in that at the end of June 30th you have to report to the town accountant what your intended plans are to use those funds or if the
project's complete. the project's complete, it gets closed out if you say, you know, please leave these funds open. Last year, they didn't send a report. The funds got closed out, but they didn't really have an intended purpose for it because it's been sitting there
for more than 15 years. So, that's usually that's kind of a long time anyway. You would typically want to see things. >> If people need the money for something, we generally spend it pretty soon after the town meeting. So lawn had asked that
um they approp we appropriate another amount from free cash and that they would use it for these celebrations and they have some old maps and things that they'd like to restore as well. Um so that money that got
closed up to free cash last year they'd like to see reappropriated for a different purpose. >> Okay. I mean, I I asked because it wasn't a specific request with the intent of 250th year celebration. It was just something that they wanted that money back to where it used to be. So,
it's probably safe to assume that that historic commission does not committee does not have 250th anniversary plan, celebration plan. We got an email from >> Dana >> Dana as requesting a parade, etc., etc. So,
>> we'll talk about that on an agenda item. >> Sure. some other meeting. Okay. Thank you. >> Um, so if they don't expend that whole 350 $3,500, it will tie back to free cash, right? >> And then they can get another appropriation next year if they intended
purpose, >> right? >> Okay. >> As long as they understand that >> to keep it to keep it, they have to apply to if they weren't to spend if they were willing to spend like 500 or probably 3500, >> they could apply to
have that still keep that money at the end of >> only if their celebrations are not complete and their restorations are not complete. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So I think they need to be understand that it's not like your personal
checkbook that you can just build money. It's public money and it it has to be spent or it has to come back. >> Yeah. For its intended purpose. >> Okay. So if I'm correct, we had a motion and there was second. I I started discussion. And is there any more discussion of what used to be article
13? Hearing none. All in favor? >> I >> I. Anyone opposed or abstaining? Hearing none. It's 500 >> and article 14 is an unpaid bill. $5,600 for an unemployment expense.
I move to approve article 14. >> Second. >> Any discussion? >> This is seven. This is 9/10. >> 9/10. Yeah. >> Yeah. And we'll make that clear in the um motion. >> Okay. Let's vote. All in favor?
>> Anyone opposed? Uh abstaining? Not it's 500. Article 15. Article 15 is the reserve compensation fund that the members of the HR board reported out to you on last
meeting. Um, this would be funded from free cash. It would be the same type of thing like we just discussed at the end of the year. If it wasn't utilized, it would be closed out. If it was utilized at the next subsequent town meeting, we'd ask
for additional funds and a report would be made to town meeting on what the the funds were spent on. >> I move to approve article 15. >> Second. Second. >> Any discussion? I'm sure Mark Lechman would be able to
uh talk about this as you spoke to us. >> Okay. >> Any any further discussion? Let's vote. All in favor? >> I. Anyone opposed or abstaining? >> None. Hearing none. 5 0. >> Citizens petitions.
>> Okay. Those are going to come after the that part of the we have four citizens petitions. Um, three, four, four, four, four. Um, so
right now I've included them. We've we've moved them around uh over the years. Sometimes we take them up first. Sometimes we put them after the financial articles. Um I don't know if you've ever had them at the end. Um so I
we just kind of put them in here. I figured you could discuss where you wanted them. It's we we've had situations at town meetings when it gets to the end of the evening when we have very few people there and things kind of
fly by. But other articles have been moved to the end when you want to keep your audience there. You've had all sorts of um rationes for where you put the articles and it's entirely up to you how you want them
to appear on the warrant. Well, there's value in that point about everybody leaves at the end of the night and things will just I think what happens is
there's some things here that affect everyone in town. Our meeting is only a certain number of people anyway at its best. You've got a lot of time involved in some of the meat of the meeting and the
people that stay to the end are going to really be very weighted towards an agenda, I think, on voting. So, >> all right. >> Just kind of remember that. What's your feel, Alicia? They're going to take too long. I just have a feeling
that there's going to be a robust dialogue and I feel like town meeting is we have to do business before the town first and then the bylaws
are very important business for the town and >> so you prefer to see the bylaws first and then the >> Well, I'm not sure now because I'm afraid that that Well, it's funny. I mean, some of these things
you kind of wish people would bring them into the board and go through the process, but >> right, >> you seem to want to and it's fine. It makes sense, but you know, the pilot's
kind of important. I mean, Jack maybe a little less because we kind of figured the budget out, but that would have been important. Um certainly the um pesticides would affect a lot of
people. So you know you tell me tell the people what they can do. >> All right. I'm I'm fine leaving them. >> Just leave them where they are. >> Yeah. >> Just leave them where they are. >> Okay. >> So let's take a look at them then. >> No, we don't have to do it. We just go
right to the bylaws. >> We don't have any say on it. Article 20. Just a quick question though from I remember this in years past. Does the person who put in the petition come up and make an appeal on Okay. >> They make the motion. >> They make a motion. Okay.
>> And if nobody speaks to it, we can move to >> If nobody makes a motion, nobody stands. >> Yeah. >> Okay. That's how >> I'm asking again because looking at current article 17 >> once again if if article four I think it
is the operating if the operating budget passes in article 17 as it stands is >> makes no sense. >> It makes no sense. >> That'll be defined at town meeting. I think um to your point the finance
committee will probably mention that in their report you know they report awesome >> delight. >> So there's going to be four citizen petitions. >> So article 20 who's going to speak to
the by the bylaws article 20 and article 21 of the excise taxes. My understanding was we passed these last year and now this year we just have to this is like the the meet the
twostep you passed. >> We voted last year. >> But we put this on town meeting last year, didn't we? Didn't we vote bylaw last year? >> We voted I think you voted the bylaw but not the I don't think you voted the amount. >> Yeah, that's what it that's what was
missing. >> Oh, really? Yeah, I think so. >> Yeah, it was like it's it was a piece missing. >> So, this is the mechanics. Yeah. >> Yeah. To allow us to collect the additional tax >> even though we've been doing it anyway. >> Okay. We need to change that to 70.75%.
>> For what? >> It's point. >> Yeah. Not 75 cents. >> 7.75%. >> 0.75. And you need to add the word percent in here. >> Yeah. Yep. >> Okay. I move that we approve article 20
>> with that second typo fix. Yep. >> Any any further discussion? I What did we get? $65,000 last year. >> 60,000 63 I think. >> Which which which helps. Okay. Any any
more discussion? >> Let's vote. All in favor? I. Anyone opposed? Anyone abstaining? It's 500. >> I move that we approve article 21 >> as written. >> Second.
>> Any discussion about this? We issue joy six um >> the last meeting, right? >> You issued six and then you I believe have 11 more coming on the 14th. They're starting >> another possible stream of of money that can help us with u
>> offsetting expenses. >> Exactly. Any other discussion? Hearing none. Let's vote. All in favor? >> I. >> Anyone opposed or abstaining? >> Hearing none. It's also 500.
>> 22. I move that we accept article 22 which is to accept chapter 83 of the town of Newbury general bylaws by adding the new bylaw >> as presented to us by the planning board. >> I believe this is the police. Oh, sorry.
The police chief, sorry. Sorry. >> This is the solicitor one. >> Yeah. Second the motion and then discussion. Is he gonna >> present this? >> Who's gonna Chad gonna present this? Sorry. She >> police chief.
>> Police chief, not fire chief. >> Not fire chief. >> Well, what what happens generally? So each of you there's no science to it. It's kind of chair, vice chair, clerk, alphabetical. We kind of assign you each
and you would make the motion, but whoever the petitioner is um would would speak to respond to any questions. Yeah. >> Yep. So you make the actual motion, but >> Chief Fisher would come up and and
respond if there was an inquiry. >> All right. Did we have a second? >> We did. >> We did. >> Any discussion about this article? Hearing none. Let's see. Vote. All in favor? I >> I. >> Anyone opposed or abstaining?
>> None. Hearing none. What page was on? >> Article 23 is on page 13. This is the historic commission. >> Historic district, rather. >> Do we know who's going to speak to this one?
>> I assume Robin Ethridge. Okay. On. >> All right. I move to accept article to recommend article three. >> 23. >> 23. >> Okay. Second. Any discussion of of article 23.
>> It's my understanding what they said last when they were here last time is there's nobody in this district that doesn't want to be there. They're not anybody into this system. >> Is this 2/3 or simple majority?
>> I believe it's 2/3. >> That's right. That's what I wrote down. >> Is is the previous bylaw 2/3, too? >> All bylaw changes are 2/3, right? All zoning bylaw changes are 2/3. Correct. Some, I think, dealing with
affordable housing. Oh, that's right. Except for those that's new last year, >> right? So, we'll have to check with town council. >> Okay. Okay. >> How much for affordable housing? >> I'm sorry. >> Simple majority, right, Martha? >> Just majority. >> Majority. Yeah. >> Wow.
>> That was a directive from the governor's office, I state. Yep. >> All right. We had a motion. It was second. >> Any discussion of this article? >> Vote. All in favor? >> I. Anyone opposed or abstaining?
>> There's none. >> 500 Zut >> do the report with your motions will identify >> and the moderator has that information as well. >> I I saw your scheduled meeting for that.
Yep. >> This is appeals. Article 24 page 20. >> Article 24 page. >> Yeah. This increases our zoning board of appeals. Do >> you want to move it? No. Go ahead. You're on a roll. Uh
>> I move to accept article 24. >> Second. Any discussion? >> This is important. They need to have B5. >> Okay. All those in favor? >> I.
>> Anyone opposed or abstaining? >> None. Hearing none. It's 5 Z. >> Article 25 to see if the These are the planning. These are the uh this is the housing one. The inclusionary zoning zoning.
>> Yeah. I move to accept article 25 as presented by the planning board in in the warrant. >> Second. >> Any discussion of article 25? Hearing none. Let's vote. All those in favor? I >> I.
>> Anyone opposed or abstaining? None. 500 >> article 26. This is the um recottification of our chapter 97 zoning. I move that we
approve article 26 as presented by the planning board and in our warrant. >> Second. >> Any discussion? >> Let's vote. All those in favor I. Anyone opposed or abstaining? None.
Article 26. Article 27. This is a table of use. I move that we um recommend the article 27 as written and presented by the planning board. >> Any discussion? Well, let's vote. All those in favor?
>> I. >> Anyone opposed or abstaining? Hearing none. It's 500 Z. >> And article 28 is the clean energy chapter 97 zoning presented by the planning board. A new zoning bylaw.
Move to accept. >> Okay. >> Any discussion on article 28? >> God bless you. Yes. >> Hearing none. Let's uh let's vote. All those in favor? >> I >> I >> Anyone opposed to abstaining?
Um did I did I miss a change to the zoning board of appeals? >> No, that wasn't here. >> No, it was in there. I just didn't look at it. I guess >> that was article 23, I think. >> Was it page 20? Maybe
>> page 25. >> Page 25. 20. >> Yes, I see it. I see it. Okay. >> Okay. Good. >> Okay. So, Mata, how does this and Kristen, how does this um after we bring
these and Woody, I guess, since you're here, um we bring these changes to town meeting, let's say they all get approved. What does that do for us for our zoning bylaws? Are we all cleaned up or we have more?
>> There's always more. >> We have one other step. It has to go through the AG's office, right? Yeah, they have they'll all have to be approved by the AG's office, >> but the recodification, you know, most of those changes will be done, but you know there there are always sections that one can look at and say, well, you
know, >> is this still relevant? >> Right. Right. But but this was the big this is the big >> this was a big job. >> This was an amazing undertaking for the planning directors, the planning board. It it was a >> labor of love.
>> Good job. Yeah, very well done. >> Thank you. >> Did we clean up all the conflicting bylaws, too? Not quite yet. >> Got a lot of them done, but there are I'm sure there's still a few there. >> We plan to meet next Tuesday. That would
be the second Tuesday of of the month. Or is it No, it's 14th. >> 14th. >> 14th is it's at 5:30. >> 5:30. >> And they'll be done. >> I think I do. >> I think I'm good. 14th I think is good. 14th. >> That's when we have um we talk about
easements. >> Yeah, 14th is good for me. >> Okay, good. >> It's on my calendar. >> No, it's um >> just a regular meeting. It's just a regular meeting. >> Regular meeting. >> Okay. >> Well, I think Lisa's going to be there,
so I think it's it's uh >> So, do we have a meeting on the 28th as well? The week meeting the week before town meeting? I have one scheduled um right now. I think there's only one item on it and that's the cultural council
wants to come before you for a public property use request for Newbury Town Day, but also to tell you what they're planning to do and advertise the event. Right now, that's all I have on it. >> Oh, they may want to present at town meeting under boards and committees if
they have >> move that to the 14th. We should move that to the 14th. >> I will ask if Rob willing to move to the 14th. >> Come before going from the 14th of April then to >> town meeting May 5th.
>> Then you won't have a meeting on >> Yeah. Because we're going to need if she has slides and if she's going to present something, we're going to need time. Can't be just the week before. >> They presented last year, didn't they? I feel like they did. So, yeah. Yeah. >> Mr. Mr. Chairman, can I ask the board to
take a vote to approve the warrant as discussed tonight and then we'll make the changes and we'll have it available in your office to sign. >> Motion to do that. >> I move that we approve the warrant as discussed. >> Second.
>> Any discussion? All in favor? I. Anyone opposed or abstaining? No. >> Great. >> Thank you. >> How about a motion to adjurnn? Motion to adjourn. >> Second. >> Those in favor?
>> I