##VIDEO ID:rNezeKuGjI4## all right everybody good evening uh let's see there uh so here we are at the Newbury Town Hall it's the only board of appeals it's uh Thursday October 17th uh 2024 at 7:30 uh we have Chrissy oi who is our excellent Administrative Assistant I'm Eric span I'm the chair of the zba Mario kavali who's a member mler who is an associate member and we have Jack Kelly who is a member uh so with that tonight we will open the meeting and we will please read the first public hearings uh the applicant is requesting a special two Northern Boulevard the applicant is requesting a special permit finding for the relief of section 97- 4 D4 a changing the use from commercial/residential to two family residentials 97- D5 c01 increase in footprint and 974 D5 C02 upward extension of the new Barry zoning bylaws and any other permanent relief as B required under the town of Newberry zoning bylaws to allow the proposed use project uh to renovate the existing structure on the property constructing a 2000 residential ding on pilings on the property located at two Northern Boulevard P new Mass C u02 lot 26 and this is a continued public hearing from September 19th 2024 uh meeting due to a non- quorum applicant has submitted a withdrawal of the application with no Prejudice so with that is there there's no discussion but is there a motion to uh accept the withdrawal without prejudice yeah I'll make a motion to accept the withdrawal without prejudice second all those in favor all right all right the motion to withraw is accepted okay yes the next one uh Susan and Thomas Conan 3 37th Street the applicants are requested a special permit finding for the relief of section 97 4 d5c 01 increase in footprint of the Newberry zoning bylaws and any other permanent relief as may be required in the count of blury zoning bylaws to allow the proposed youth project for renovations to the existing dwelling including decks on the property located at 337 Street pal Island Newberry Mass Z 1951 accessor sm4 165 continued from September 19 is the advant here yes Mr chairman members of the board good evening uh Douglas to Shan from finer and Nicholson representing the cagans um I have to apologize I did a PowerPoint presentation which I given you C but um I can't seem to get um we can't seem to log into that computer I apologize to allow it to be shown so I will do the best I can to explain things without big pictures in a laser a point but you always bring an excellent paper copy well I just figured in case but I didn't bring this time we large so is there anybody here that has interest in the hearing on 337 Street okay if for some reason you find yourself having an interest then there are hard copies look at somebody is interested so please don't be shy um Mr is talking and you'd like to see something so I'm going to run through my introduction went through this thing um so again um the owner of the property is 337 Plum is in LLC Thomas and Su and cosan of the managers um I represent them from F and Nicholson uh Tim mean is our um from Arc survey did the is the um uh professional licensed surveyor and Scott Brown from Scott and brown Architects is the architect um the project summary the clients are seeking to construct a multistory Edition and the deck to their existing home they're also going to change some windows and as you sure you've seen from the plans they're kind of you know changing the look all around but in terms of additions and increase in the size of the uh pro project um the proposed construction will not any add any new conformities but we'll be changing the foot pin of the structure um so as you know if it's over 500 ft of additional Foundation then I need a special permit and we're at about 812 ft so um that's one reason we're here for um the the permit special permit finding also we are um I guess I didn't use the right word we have an existing uh front setback which is non-conforming and we want to go upward extension of that portion of the building so while we're not moving any closer um Mr benette did determined that we were making an upward extension of a pre-existing non-conformity so again that triggered uh the need to be here but um we are not proposing any changes to the height of the proposed structure and as I said uh we're not creating any new non-conformities uh the existing conditions the lot is pre-existing non-conforming at 23880 Square ft so although it doesn't meet 40 it's one of the bigger Lots I've uh have worked on out on the island um we do have conforming Frontage of over 264 ft and we're not proposing any changes to the lot or the frontage again the only pre-existing non-conformance of the home is the 2.8 ft front setback where 10 ft is required the proposed structure as I know I've said no changes proposed to the existing nonconforming lot not creating any new conformities the new structure will however result in an increased foot print and extension of the pre-existing front yard non-conformance uh the new structure will meet all other directional uh dimensional requirements including setback the you know the other four setbacks lot coverage F and height although we're not changing the height um the next picture I just give you a picture of um of the property it's the Red Dot as you can see it is um beachfront property it's located off of 37th Street um which you know is a direct uh uh connection to Northern Boulevard um with and again I then I showed you a picture of the um uh the assessor map so again you can get a good uh you can get a good uh understanding of the lot uh what I'd like to point out to you is that the lot directly across the street at 36 7th Street it's uh u4 0-1 169 um that is the property that is directly across from our Frontage uh my clients own that property as well so um where we are expanding an upward extension of that non-conforming setback um we have no concerns that that in any way is going to encroach on anyone else uh and um um my clients certainly don't have an issue uh with respect to the other surrounding properties um we have maintained all the required setbacks so we're hoping that that won't have a detrimental effect on our two other AB budding neighbors just to give you some pictures of the home and I know uh Mr Brown gave you four views and some of these may be similar but um this is the um actually the um side of the house it would be the western side of the house and uh off to the right where you see that little um small roof and and whatnot that's actually the front of the house um and here this could the next picture gives you a better view of that you can see where the front of the house fronts on 37th Street which is not the greatest Road in the world but it is a sufficient dirt based road to uh allow my client to get in and out and of course they park on the side of the house so no need to park anywhere near the street um the next picture is actually the left side of the house which would be the uh north side of the house and um I do want to point out that we have an existing deck and stairway on that side and that is one of the locations where my client that is the location where my clients are actually proposing to put uh a foundation under that deck and then do a two-story addition and then lastly is the easterly view of the house which is the end that faces the um the ocean and again to the left you can see um 37th uh Street there um just to give you an idea of the surrounding homes um this is the home that faces the West side of the house uh this house fronts on uh Northern Boulevard so you can see we've got quite a bit of room between us and that property and in fact we have um uh 24 uh 24 1/2 ft on that side and we're not proposing uh to change it um then the next picture is sort of looking at that house and now scan P panning to the to the right you can see that house through the trees it two fronts on Northern Boulevard um not really it doesn't really have a whole lot of uh you know view to our house or you know what we're doing is not going to impact them the addition we're talking about is going to be blocked by these trees and as you can see as I continue to swing around um this is the neighbor directly to our West um and you know there's a pretty good buffered um buffer there and again we're not proposing to move the structure any closer to them than it is now and it's um you know I think you know 25 ft where 20 or 24 and 1/2 ft where 10 ft is required the next picture is is now coming around the house and you can see the first corner of the deck and the uh side that faces the ocean and um uh now I'm coming around that left side of the house and again there's the first picture I showed you the house that uh ABS on our side yard and is on on Northern Boulevard now I these this next series of picture actually gives you an understanding you can see 37th Street with that uh red car park there um to the left that is the lot that U my clients own that a bus you know is directly across the street from the the house we're talking about uh improving uh there's a an old garage and uh a shack uh on that property so there's currently no residential uh structures there um and here is a picture of that garage and you can see that are our next neighbors to the to the South um are pretty set pretty far back and you know the white one's pretty tall um as is the one next to us I think they're both taller than us but again I just wanted to show you what the surrounding neighborhood was and and who's going to be seeing this and then this is a picture of the shed that's on that same side so um really don't believe and then I'm again sorry another picture of the shed and again a better view of the this is really the house that is directly across line of sight uh to to this house you know once you skip over the undeveloped lot that's our closest neighbor to the left and they're pretty far away and and pretty tall taller than us um I apologize I don't have the screening because um as we know uh these plans are difficult to see but I hope you guys have the at least a larger copy um this site plan which was done by uh o survey um I just want to for a minute just look at the zoning Matrix to give you an understanding of the impacts of this development um the height we're not provide proposed to change the height of the of the roof uh the height the mean height right now is 29.5 ft um the lot coverage will go from 7.87% to 9.23% still vastly below the 20% allowed uh no change to the front setback other than the fact that we're extending it vertically no change to the side yard setback that we discussed that was 25 ft and the side B setback which is actually our setback to the beach is uh uh 190 ft um we 10 ft is required and then last the rear set back which is to the north uh we're at 20 ft and we're going to go down to 16 but we are only required uh to be at 10 so again um you know with the exception exception of the extension of the front setback uh we're we're well uh meeting all requirements and then lastly the far um which is currently at uh 12.3% uh is going to go up to 15.7% um again well below the 25 and the reason for that increase is that the the area where I mentioned we're going to put a foundation and build up two stories um that's going to end up and that in a little addition on on the other side is going to add an additional 812 Square ft of of living space so that's where we get the the increase in f um if if you have this plan and again I I apologize that we don't have a screen but um this is a uh proposed site plan uh ao. or 0.0 and as you can see um SC has prepared for us an understanding of you know these various additions and changes so let's start with the right front corner which is actually the side facing the street this is where we are proposing to vertically extend and what the way we're doing that and again I I guess the best the best view of this would be the um um the uh proposed self elevation plan which is A3 if you look at the top you can see that the existing to the right of the building where that person is standing we currently have a deck and as you can see from the proposed elevation on the bottom we want to add that it says new addition in existing deck footprint so it's this you know they want to add this little piece here okay and then they're going to reconfigure this deck here so that's that's that's that little piece of it and that is a piece that's adding some livable square footage now if we could Now sort of come around over here where it says a new stair entry to second floor and again I think the Southern Southern Plan um will help to show that you can see in the existing Southern elevation there's a stairway over there and there's a a twostory deck two decks what what my client's proposing to do is to put a a a foundation under a portion of that deck as we showed um you know here this is the portion that they actually want to put a foundation there and then go up two stories so you can see from the southern elevation that this is what we've got today and what we'll have when we're done is uh stairway here and then a deck and then on the back side there'll be two stories of living space uh and then as I mentioned before they are changing out most if not all of the windows and doors you can you can see from any of the proposed elevations they for the most part are keeping them in the same place in some instances adding some extra windows I mean you can never have too much light um so those are more athetic changes and then um if you take a quick look at the proposed e elevation um which is the side facing uh the neighbor um where they park right off the parking is here you can see that they've what they've done here is to um um reconfigure the deck to the right right now you come down the stairs to the parking area uh they want to eliminate that widen that deck a little and and put a second story deck above it um and again I think that results in a very minor change to the setback but it's still well within the um you know the requirement that's that setback with the with the neighbors that have all the trees so we're at 24 ft I believe there in any event so or or 16 but well over the 10 so it really is a a quite a few little deck here a little addition here go up second here put a little addition but as I said at the end of the day they're really only talking about adding about 800 squ ft of livable space and they're still going to be right around 15% on their fi and under 10 for their lot coverage um so if I can jump back to the presentation here um um I um you I I've given you good understanding as I can about the um proposed work and certainly we'll be able to answer any questions you have but I guess I'd just like to jump to the the end of the presentation and and and explain that um okay why does my presentation not have the last page does does yours do your presentations have a a a couple of pages at the end with written yes great glad you have them now Chrissy I'm going to borrow I'm I'm going to borrow one right there one right there that's amazing I pulled it from random and I pulled the one that didn't have all righty so uh with respect to our justification um for the special permit um the addition of what I would consider a modest amount of living space um and new outdoor decks to the existing dwelling will not be substantially more detrimental to the neighborhood and May in fact provide some benefits to the neighborhood uh the pr construction will res I said in a modest extension of that pre-existing front setback however um it's a setback to my clients property so they're comfortable with it and um as you saw from those pictures the the houses behind that other the lot the white one and the brown one they're huge structures and they're you know they're literally 100 ft away so while they'll see the changes and hopefully find them attractive um it's not going to have any impact on their views they're light they're they're anything uh they're just too far away um the resulting structure creates no new conformities and will meet all other dimensional requirements so even with the addition of the foundation the addition of the little Second Story uh add-on and then the two-story add-on and then all this deck reconfiguration we meet all of dimensional requirements so I think the improved Aesthetics of the property will certainly increase the property value of that our property and surrounding properties there'll be an increase in tax revenue for the town but at the end of the day I really think this is just all you know pretty much an aesthetic exercise make the house more livable uh um give them some more outdoor space and sort of fill in some uh some Living Spaces too just to uh update the home um the last page then guys um again my client is proposing a m increase here in living space plus these additional outdoor deck areas uh can be constructed to meet all dimensional requirements except the front setback which is being extended which however will impact none of our neighbors um at all um we have had um uh discussions my clients who discussed this project with their neighbors and you know the neighbors are supportive that it's going to going to update it make it look nice and not imp pinge or in interfere with any of their properties again not creating any new height or massing or scaling that is going to have any impact on the neighbors so that is our proposal I'm happy to answer any questions you might have but I do need to say this has been a heck of a a a meeting for me I you know I've had two cases withdrawn and I got a call this morning from my client who said that they've been working with um Mr Hughes to do the um conservation work and the conservation plans and they may have to modify one of the decks a little so I don't have that modification obviously I didn't provide it to you um and I again I'm just getting it myself so rather than continue are you know try and say hey could you consider this I thought it would be best to come in explain the project try and answer any questions you might have and then respectfully ask that you continue us to give me an opportunity to get those that minor modification to the deck into you well in advance of the next meeting but I will tell you from what I've been told by Mr Brown it is not um it's only deck changes no living space no roofs nothing it's just the shape of the decks are being modified a little um but again I wasn't about to continue this meeting after you know two two withdrawals and you know the last minute I really thought it would be best to come in here uh see what questions and concerns you have with what's here today and knowing that I'll get you a a plan with some minor modifications on the decks with that I'm I'm happy to answer any questions you might have questions comments I got a few I just have a it might even be a typ of on the lot coverage checklist I just I just can't read square footage of the proposed footprint is it 1152 um well I'll sorry let me see if I can read it and it's on the the checklist the application don't have that can I just take a quick look and are you on F oh yeah it's handwritten it's handwritten yeah it might be I just couldn't make the numbers that up yeah primary dwelling is 1022 proposed dwelling those are my notes they're trying to decipher uh 857 in deck we're adding 200 ft in deck um so the overall existing footage yeah is$ 18879 right so that verifies that this is 1022 because when I add those up I get 18879 right and what about this one well this I can read right 2204 and we know that the decks are now going to be 1052 two 5 1 one so yes this is 115 okay very good that's what I thought it was just want to make sure right cool thank you thank you very much and again you know it's pretty good size lot at 23,000 so our coverage in our f is staying pretty low so this this is an existing four bedroom home yes and it's going to stay a four-bedroom home I believe so yeah none of the additions add any bedroom no no okay um in fact the sure Mr yeah well I was looking at that actually too actually it looks like there's one less bedroom there's three bedrooms upstairs and a sitting room and a new plan right y there's three bedrooms upstairs but there's one bedroom on the proposed ground Lev there's no bedrooms on the first floor the blue is the new and and the orange left is the ex well this sorry get to my [Applause] footprints assisting ground floor so then there's a fourth bedroom downstairs yeah there's there's on detail four you at dra yeah there's well there's another kitchen down there on the ground floor right that's why you think were you thinking didn't it say was a two family it it shows two kitchen two family am I confusing yeah I thought I I I know I provided the assessors our card so that's kind of where it's was going and that's kind of what it looked like the pl just making sure we weren't there one disadvantage of not having my architect with me's the card yeah it's four bedrooms again four bedrooms with us sitting room that would make a nice bedroom too well let me look at that proposed a conforming two family home non-conforming two home nonconforming pre-existing non-conforming use okay it just stay proposed plan kitchen dining living area storage two okay sou to LS four bedrooms until that yeah but um I I I do agree with your comment um about the sitting room uh but I don't believe I see is it actually doed off it's not no it's it's just extending it but there not the two additions don't add they add to the living room and they add to theing room okay so that's question one so the these two large Decks that are being added that one deck is covering the other deck yep um and and you said that there was cave surface underneath it or no I I don't believe there is okay I know and and again uh as you can see from the existing East Elevation there's a deck there today a first FL deck they they don't want to expand it out and um it is the space under under the deck which is covered by the second floor deck counted in the F if the deck is covering the other deck and and the deck up above is waterproof and not letting water through then it it should be counted as covered space what if it's flow through what if this you know kind of a miserable deck to be on but yeah no good point no I I I I I don't I'm I'm sorry I don't have that answer not like you're up against the F no so no look at it we'll verify that the construction is and if it is just include it so it's it's in there please um I'm you know I'm I'm very confident you know Mr Brown does an excellent job of understanding what f is and which is why I have him do those but um I will follow thank you is this the side entry with the steps that has a roof over it counted as that they are [Music] okay um I'm sorry Mr chairman which one was that the front the uh North South the south side the southeast Corner Edition is uh on posts it extends the first floor plan it does not extend the second floor plan but there is a roof over it so that counted is that they are okay because it has a roof over it and then I'm I'm sorry Mr I just want to make sure I get this correct so we're talking about the south side we're talking the southeast the section where that green where they're going to put a new habitable space at second floor level over existing deck location under that is it's the entry piece where the stair goes up and you have a new entry landing and it has a roof over all right so you've got a deck deck has a roof and you know just real simple anything that's covered yep is counted are there any um are there any eaves that are over 202 in doesn't look like it I do not believe so cuz I know I have talked with Mr Brown about that in the past and again he's always pretty good at um okay um um and in fact as you could see on the proposed East Elevation they are proposing this uh roof liet yeah I don't think they're over 10 in but I will check all right I think that's just to allow for those um you know those windows the storm windows that roll up all right I'm changeing height the is there anything else on the application that's not in mind anybody found I noticed on one of these applications somebody put the existing and the new or the they put the same number in the two locations they put the lot size and the total lot coverage is the same squared footage number it's just a a typo it's not this application um are there any other yeah so you you're going to I'm going to go back get the answers to these questions we'll be submitting next this week or first to next week uh a new set of drawings that will show a minor as I'm told minor change to the shape of the decks only um and then that way we can come back and um explain that change and also make sure that our F calculations are fulfilled and F and if anything else changes please call it out oh yeah of course yeah yeah I mean again depending on whether they're changing the shape making it smaller that may reduce our lock coverage if it's a little bigger lock coverage go up a little but um oh in fact Scott it is a minor change uh Scott said that our loot coverage was going to go from uh approximately it's 9.23 as now proposed and he said it was going to go up to like 99.4 or five so a minor that's still going to be below 10% loot coverage but thank you I appreciate your time and I'm sorry about this last minute change but we certainly like to get exactly what we're going to vote on as opposed to something that's heavily conditioned Andor um and they're not complete that we're we're asking for a continuation anyway y so with that is there a motion for continuation I'll make a motion to continue the decision uh based on the uh new far calculations minor changes in the deck and change in the out second second all those in favor so that passes and we are November 21st would that be it third Thursday great thank you very much y uh Mr chairman if I might um I know these folks are waiting to do their presentation but as you'll see I've also filed withdrawal for your last hearing yep and so if you have any questions I can tell you that um um my clients is it turned out some of their neighbors were concerned about what they were doing um and had some questions uh that in combination with the fact that my uh uh my client is um uh uh is is uh currently undergoing medical uh care and is going to be hospitalized soon um Mrs luchino um asked that at this time we withdraw so that they can um deal with their current situation and and go talk to the neighbors and make sure the neighbors are happy so I did ask for a withdrawal so I again I'm not going to be here when you vote on that but I did want to give you a understanding of why great we appreciate that we can move with move for the request for motion to withdraw when once we read it in thank you all right well thank you have a great evening thank you so much all right um Earl tan 10 6 Street applicate applicant is requesting special permit finding for relief of section 974 D5 c01 increase in square footage and 02 upward extension of the Newberry zoning bylaws and any other permanent relief as may be required on the town of Newberry Z byw please sorry so just back up a second we made a motion to to continue to the 21st here at 7:30 so just to be accurate it's here at 7:30 time place and um chy CH will get it in there but I want to just make sure that we super clear yep so start sorry about that no no uh Earl T Evon 10 six Street Dr cases requesting a special permit finding for releas of section 974 D5 c01 increase in square footage and 02 upper extension of the new only bylaws and any other perit with has required under the town ofing by wall to allow the proposed use project in order to raise the existing dwelling on the lot and the construction of a new single family dwelling on pilings on a property located at 10 6 Street Plum Island Newberry m 01951 s 302 lot 222 continuing from September 19th all right the appli good evening uh Matt steinel from Millennium engineering I'm here tonight uh with yvon Ali from dropa designs and the applicants Earl vvon and Christina Tiani uh for their application before the board tonight for a special permit finding um I have a a copy of the plan up here on a board I know you probably copies a little Clos to you so if you don't mind I'm going to use this as mine but if you need it I can bring it closer too um the site that's before you tonight is a an existing single family home constructed on a full Foundation um this is gone conservation already and has already received approval so we through that permit process already the applicants are proposing to tear down the existing single family home and to construct a new single family home on a pile supported Foundation uh up in the air the existing lot is currently nonconforming for Frontage in area uh in the in the required zone of 40,000 ft they have 11,500 currently and 125 ft of Frontage is required and they have 60 ft of Frontage uh in addition to that they also have a side yard setback nonconformity where the structure it's kind of deceiving you know the roads here this would appear to be a front lot line but your front Frontage is down here so this is kind of a side and another side that's a rear to the neighbor because of the odd shape of the lot um so we've identified that as a side yard setback 4.6 currently where 10 is required and then what we have proposed before you again is a a larger structure on a pile of supporter Foundation and it is set back a little further on the lot and so the proposed project is in full conformance with all of your uh zoning requirements with the exception that we're again we're not changing the size of the lot or the area or the frontage of the lot so uh those remain nonconform these and suppos you can see here before you the shape of the house is a little non-traditional it was specifically designed so that way it wasn't just a traditional Square home but it was also designed the intent of avoiding putting any of the structure within the mapped Fe of flood plane so um that is not just a coincidental shape to it it is intentional to avoid doing that having said that the flood zone here is elevation 13 and the vast majority of the site where it is located is actually at or above 13 we do have a 13 Contour that runs kind of over here on the side but we're on kind of the high point of the property here so even though the map flood zone comes up this way we are actually setting oursel above it um in addition to that we well above it for the purposes of of uh compliance with conservation to get it at least 2 ft off the ground you see in the corner of the plan we have a profile set up here with the existing ground you can see here is 13 for the flood the mean grade is 13.9 so the average is slightly above flood already and then the bottom of the structure the post steel is at 17.4 so we're we're about four almost 4 and 1/2 ft above the flood elevation um the new structure is going to have a small ENT entryway with a uh a front landing and a set of stairs coming into the front and a deck on the on the right hand side as you're looking at it from the road um we provided the board with all of the uh the about notification green slips and a copy of the uh legal ads from the newspaper so the the proper notification has occurred um I feel like I I always feel like I don't I should never follow Doug do always has a really great presentation and I don't quite go to the extreme with him um but it's it's a pretty single it's pretty simple straightforward single home single family tear down on a on a very small house that's going to a more modest um we have the again um Al yavon is here uh and can you answer questions related to the floor plans and the actual structure the floor area ratio calculations that she's provided um all the calculations I provided are on the zoning table in the top leand corner and so you can see that we are on the proposed column in full compliance all of the zoning requirements with the exception again of the lot arean Frontage and with that I'll be happy to answer any questions excellent um are there any questions comments I have a quick one procedurally I didn't see the denial letter was that do we have that so the denial letter was a work in progress at the time of the submission we've been asking for it and working with Peter for quite some timing and we were able to get it at the time that I was bringing the application in and dropping it off I was exchanging one application and I was getting the letter and so that was part of the the uh the packet that you should have but I do have it here uh copy of it here and it should be part of the file I email that to you right after the meeting okay what just just so I'm clear what was the the grounds for denial what do we so the the wording is receive the application for the new home I denying your application at this time based on the new boning code 97- 4D 5c 01 and 02 an upward extension and an increase in the building footprint you may now apply to the new resoning board for Relief thank you I think it was right around the time that Peter was away on vacation coming back for a week going away for another week vacation and it was a struggle to get the letter in time for the submission so we ran it in and luckily it was kind of like right under the deadlines and the only other thing I think you said it but I missed it how many bedrooms in the existing so there's an existing three-bedroom home it's being replaced with a new three-bedroom home so there's no increase in bedrooms correct yes thank you do we have an existing plan existing floor plans for the home I actually have um it's not part of this submission existing three bedrooms yes didn't PR I that you guys love looking at people cell phones for photos but that's U looks like today I have a lot more photos that were part of the consultation commission package and I think they were up wanted to the link that I sent account for this as well but I didn't make it part of the paper copy unfortunately I didn't think I had I can get a copy from Mason and add it to the zda file and it's in the link I sent you as well okay thank you you one I do for I appreciate that thank you very much you're welcome would you like yeah keep package together so the Assessor's card does have it at 760 Square ft and three [Applause] bedrooms so on your site plan you have an architectural profile view yes and it shows that the proposed lowest level of the horizontal support is at 17.4 FT that's correct elevation 17.4 Y and then I go over to the right and it says Bas Squad elevation BF is elevation 13 correct and then I go below that it says existing mean grade elevation is 13.9 correct so shouldn't the line for 13.9 be higher than the 13 you're absolutely correct um it more of there for informational purposes than it is to depict which one's above the other it's just to show that the structure itself is well above flood uh and you are probably the first person to pick up on that conservation you didn't even see that okay so that that's that's one and then as I I go from there to like A3 elevation I'm looking at or put 84 I'm looking at the the the grade and you said that the average existing me gr across the site is 13.9 right so 13.9 minus first floor elevation 18.9 is 5 ft um and so what I'm looking for is a dimension to the mean height of the roof to to the mean grade it it's Dimension to the bottom of the lowest structure but it's not from grade up to meain roof height so I propos meain roof at 42.4 yep and then I have the mean grade at 13 13.9 and when we subtract the 42.4 from the 13.9 that's where we get the 282 in our zoning Matrix table okay um somewhere we need to show the the [Music] 282 right but when I look at this elevation that you have on the lower right and I look at A4 I'm looking at a am I looking at the roof this way I guess and so this is the bridge line This is 47 okay and that's the mean height then of that roof which is this roof I apologize the actually there's an error in the zoning Matrix table it says 282 but the dimension on the profile is actually accurate this is the actual from the mean grade to the to the roof here is okay so so it's a difference of of the way it's interpreted most towns will ask us to give it to the peak which is where the 31.1 and the 282 is the distance to the mean so I guess it's not an error in in the zoning MRI table but it is a little bit confusing because we're giving you both it's just taking a minute to get I'm also looking at proposed solar panels I don't see solar panels here and so I'm just trying to size it up that's all um yeah not so much there I guess just confusing it could have been probably a little clearer so you I said 42.4 minus 13.9 equals the 28 so that's the that's the uh yes 42.4 is the mean not the peak so 42.4 minus the 13.9 equals 282 and it says proposed height here is 282 okay all right so we went through bedrooms right we went through height um which number on the plan did you say need to be corrected actually neither I I thought it was an error but it's not it's just a difference again most hwns ask us to give the dimension to the peak and I was reading that first so the 28 half is accurate from the mean roof yep so that's it's actually accurate 28 and half okay yeah coverage is 16.6 rear set back9 10.7 [Music] 704 is the front I guess Chrissy to note with the odd shape lot that the front set back at 78.4 is also 12.6 to the front uh adjacent lot right you got two sort of fronts here um just to you know it's fine you're within you're over 10 more than over 10 ft it would be an interpretation of what a front line would be because technically the front step back to be 20 well it just becomes a side yard it's you got usually side a side B this this becomes a side C Q you got the 18.9 listed you do you don't have the 36.7 listed [Music] the side set back minimum of 10.7 and the the 10.7 being the closest one is here right so the East Side setback is 36.7 you note that okay so we're good all good we just we just noted 12.6 and the 36.7 gotcha so we got the yards set back you talk about the frontage um is it a shared driveway at all uh not officially uh unofficially the neighbors get along real good with the neighbors and so they do allow them to park some cars there but officially it's not a shared driveway they have their own Frontage with their own access okay thank you there's no basement is there not on the new structure this is entirely in the air on a pile Supply the only thing going to the ground is a utility Chase I note about a basement I don't know where I the existing house does have a basement right that's where I read it okay so I had a note to check yeah on the application I think under existing it says two plus basement thank you that's what I saw and then um just make a side comment to Chrissy not for you guys but chy if we're going to get 11 by 17 then the the drawings should be think drawings we received should be a scale okay so maybe not your Forte to to check but to ask the applicant when you know you spent a lot of time Drafting and putting dimensions and I can't put a scale on it and 116 turns out to 69 it's it just takes a lot of extra time to figure out so we'll we'll figure something out there if we need to get you scale drawings for the record just so the records complete we can get those to you as well are drawings physically attached are they scan these days is everything scan so everything scan send you the problem is that most often printers will print to fit and it messes with everything right okay the the larger size drawing are you typically always the scale but it's when we get a smaller pack we try to figure it out um and if it's well di mention that makes it a lot easier but um sorry Sor you comment there okay so any other comments is there anybody in the audience that's in favor you can all stand up state your name and say that you're in favor for the record earon in favor CHR in favor Javon Alli in favor great you're here you made it you're the presentation so duly recorded um okay is there anybody in the audience that's proposed Iain no we won't count that um is there anything on the application anybody saw that needed question or anything and um Chrissy you will slide us a digital copy and an email with the refusal letter so that we have application yes sir okay so there any other discussion I'm good I'll say here okay so we'll close the public meeting and I'll request a motion uh I'll make a motion to accept the application to raise the existing dwelling and the construction of a new single family dwelling uh on pilings uh with an increase in far from 12% to 21% and a height increase from 20.4 to and I would like to add second on that I'll second it okay um I would like to add that we will we will draft the motion we will get the the full motion we'll read through it make sure there no edits and we will vote on the complete motions on November 21st yep and I would say for what we're doing this looks pretty straight forward okay just to give you the confidence that that's where we're going um so with the draft of the motion added Mario's motion is there a second I add I will second the agenda great excellent is there a vote all in favor I so three three unanimous votes passes thank you so we voted on the motion we're going to draft the motion we'll have one more vote as I said it seems just a matter of just making sure it's said it's and it's in English which chy always does an excellent job and so we will get to that thank you great because there was hopefully nothing I'm going to not hopefully put any words in the board's mouth but I don't think you need to pay to have me there so at the next meeting if you even want to attend you don't need me and if you could move it to the front we could will we could move through it quickly yep I'll do that that I mind coming out all right great everybody's agreement thank you thank you okay do do you have this no I did not have that I okay so don't you just scan that as well [Music] [Applause] um one yeah um public hearing da new uh David and Carrie Beck lanao one will and curly way the applicat are request a special permanent finding for relief of section 9710 d2c the taach accessory requirments of the Newber Zing bylaws and any other per Rel as may be required under the town of newbury's Zing bylaws to allow the propos project in order to construct a detach pool house of the accessory unit on the second floor to be used as an accessory apartment on the property located at 1 will early way Newbery Mass 0951 assessors m r 27 lot 6 for D and the applicant has submitted a withdrawal of the application new Prejudice right any questions none is there a motion to withdraw without prejudice make a motion to accept the withdraw the application with no prees seconded second all those in favor I I done all right is there a motion is there anything Elsey we will there's been a fair amount of communication on Cricket Lane um it's not that it's negative it's just there's been good communication and so we asked Walter Ericson to come in could make it tonight he should be on the meeting next meeting um that couple can go first Walter could go second then we can do the others uh we don't need a whole full blowby blow we just need Walter to report the what we're doing and if you're getting emails you're reading what's going on uh Martha's very much in tune of what's going on so we just need to stay in touch of what's what's up there was an incident I think we all got the emails about the truck's driving over someone's grass and the next day they were out there and they fixed the grass and seated the grass and the lady that called the complaint was very happy um she was thrilled the telephone po that was put there at the driveway just barely the water line they dug up the water line the water line looks like it was patched at some point with some kind of sleeve so they're looking to make some adjustments of a waterline connection so they're not connecting into a patch but connecting into the line and Walter will tell us that and everything else and if you haven't been out there I haven't been out there lately but I was planing this weekend to do a driveby I'm sure it looks very different than it did before with no treat I've added all the math LW information into the permit link system for the building permits and I've entered uh the building permits for units one through four so far so Walter's been supplying us all the information we need and he's he's following everything that everybody's asked them about and all the prerequisites that we had are being checked out all right a motion to adjourn motion to adjourn all those in favor I I excellent we are to close