--------- Okay. Okay. Good afternoon, everybody. Um, we will officially call to order our city council emergency special meeting on Tuesday, June 17th at like 5:02 p.m. Um,
per the privileged memo that the council received from our labor attorney today. We will not be discussing or taking action on item B on the agenda. So, we will skip to the next item, item C. I have two different
We have two different agendas. Was this amended? All right. Are you looking at the Nope. I got it. I got it. Never mind. Never mind. I was just looking. Got it. I didn't see the other one. Okay. Um and I just I just printed the memo for Bruce, but Okay, perfect. Just wanted to make
sure. I thought it was something different. Okay, no worries. All right. So, item C on the agenda is to appoint someone to fulfill some or all of the duties of the administrator position while a
search is commenced um for a replacement administrator. And so just to give a little color commentary on this, um, we've had Oh, I was just going to say before we go down that path,
I'd like to know is the council is our end goal to hire a full-time city administrator. So, here's where it's a little clunky with the emergency
special agenda and then the workshop. So, the council workshop we also have at 5, but I was going to take this up first and then go to the workshop second. Um, in that council workshop, we have a review of the government city structure. And when Tim was here, he had um put
together several items that he wanted the council to give direction on. And one was, you know, to continue with like is the council interested in continuing on with an administrator structure, which our ordinances currently have in place, or look at a different governing
structure and then based on the output from that, right? Let's just say that was stay with the current structure. then would be council discussion of okay do we want to look at you know going down the path of just
going to a full-time you know looking for a full-time so that I know it's a little out of sorts but so that we have to discuss in the workshop and then this one it's just kind of like that stop gap so that's why I was saying the color commentary what we had done before in I
think it was April where we assign as a council some of the duties and responsibilities to a staff member, right? And it wasn't the staff and I think this is where there might have been some confusion previously whether it was amongst us or out in the
community is that it wasn't assigning some of the duties and responsibilities of a staff member wasn't putting them into like they weren't the administrator. they still in this case Kiki she was still city clerk um assigned some of the duties and responsibilities of the administrator
role as directed by the personnel liaison um Joe and myself and so I just wanted to clarify that right so that was the stop gap to get us to the point where we came forward with you know we went through the interview process and as personnel liaison we interviewed
folks and made our recommendation for the two finalists that came forward before the full council um which we all conducted that interview and then passed the motion to extend that interim position to Tim. Um and Tim
unfortunately his last day with us was Friday and so we need to have this meeting to again you know we need to have a stop gap until we have the longer term plan. Does that make sense?
Angel, is there anything that was missed on that? I think you adequately informed him of everything. Okay, so that's where we are. Um, any other
questions with council or thoughts or input? Okay. Well, does anyone have any perspective otherwise? So, you have any ideas of who we should
go into the position role? Um, oh, did someone say something? Did I heard someone say something? Okay. So, there's not a lot of a conversation at this point from anyone. All right. Well, I guess I would like to
make a motion then. I would move that effective June 17th, 2025, um, our parks and recreation director Amber Moon Peterson is assigned to perform some of the duties and responsibilities of city administrator on this interim basis and only to the
extent necessary and only after they meet and discuss with uh, city council design. Um the way we did it last time in the motion was the personnel leaison prior to performing each necessary duty and responsibility.
Is there a second? Where is Amber right now? She was not able to be here for this. Um, I did briefly speak with Amber today and said if if the motion was brought forward, would she be opposed to the motion being brought forward? And she said no. If
council so desires, um, she would she would fulfill the responsibilities at council direction. Are there any other technically per Robert's rules we need a second before we have discussion and there's no right then that it can be
voted up or down but technically that's how it should work well to move forward I'll second okay so now we can have open discussion about it but our discussion is do we have anybody else that can fulfill this role that would be a separate motion I I know but That's a
discussion on this though. Sure. Do we have anybody else that can fulfill this role? Your question is the I think the answer is yes. I think it's the same individual that we had in this position prior to having the interim city administrator
come in. Um I think it would behoove us to not consider that individual Kiki Lindbury for that uh interim position as well with his motion on the table.
That's that's my remark for Kiki. Correct. Okay. I agree with Jesse. So we should take a vote on this on this motion then. Motion in second. Yeah. Yep. So all those in favor signify by
saying I. I. All those opposed? Nay. Nay. Okay. So motion fails. Does someone want to make a separate motion? I'd like to make a motion uh that effective June 17, 2025, uh, city clerk Kiki Lindbury is assigned
to perform duties and responsibilities of city administrator on an interim basis and only to the extent necessary and only after they meet and discuss with city council uh representative as of this time I'm not sure who prior to performing each necessary duty and the
responsibility. Thank you councel. I respectfully decline. Okay. Technically, we have a Well, we didn't have a second. Do we have a second? If not, it Kiki declines.
Well, Kiki just declined. Correct. Correct. Correct. That'd be Do we need a second to even talk about it though or what? What's the next step? Angel, if do we need a second to talk about it? Yes. Yeah. So, we need someone
to I'll second it. Okay. Now, we can open it up for discussion. I I would just like to say I feel that if an employee declines or is not interested, I don't know. I personally feel we as a council shouldn't force something on them. But that's just my opinion.
Any other comments? We have a quiet group tonight. We have a motion and second. All right. All those in favor of Kiki uh as a motion Jesse just made, please signify by saying I. All those opposed?
Okay. Motion fails. So there's obviously not interest in this interim position based off of what's transpired. So that leaves us to discuss not only who we best deem fit, but also
who's willing to take the duties for the interim basis. Right. Well, Amber was willing in my conversation with her today. She asked me if she needed to be here for this. I said if she had other things going on, she didn't need to because she asked to be back for seven, the regular
council meeting. thoughts from the group. Are we just free to discuss stuff now? Kind of. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean from my point of view on it, you know, it'll be coming up in this, but that this uh
interimm thing um needs to be just as short as possible, you know, from my from just my perspective moving ahead, you know, um visiting with Tim on stuff and the information that we're going to
get into. I believe that um the interm should just be as quick as possible and move ahead on whichever decision that we take going forward. You know, just publicly saying that to staff that there'd be no um
no intention on dragging anything out any further longer than than needs to be, you know, just publicly saying that. So, I guess I guess that's what I'll start with. Um, well, if the course is to go down in in
in my preference to start looking for a full-time city administrator, you're looking at 6 to9 months. Yeah. And we and we should I don't want to get too far off track, right? Because that's for a workshop discussion, but to Mark's point, yes.
Like the city of Breezy Point, they had their administrator resign I think last fall and their new one is not starting until July 1st. And so that was like a I don't remember exactly when their last Nancy might know maybe October,
September, October, somewhere around there the last one resigned. So it took them an extensive amount of time to find a full-time. they have had an interim administrator in there um a gentleman by the name of Jerry Bonsack who also was an interim at Cross Lake um and is up in
the area. So yes, but again we should discuss that more in the workshop when we discuss our governance structure. So our option right now is just to basically just keep going through staff
if I understand it correctly. Right. Well, if if if you have a motion for another staff member. Um, I guess what I was asking is, you know,
versus, you know, bringing in somebody from the outside like what we had right at this point tonight, it'd be only staff. I think because I think because like bringing someone from the outside, we haven't done any interviews. We haven't had res right like right when we
brought Tim and Keith last time for the final round we had gone through a process where we did first round interviews um and then information was sent to the full council before the final round and then that was done. So, I think we'd, you know, we'd have to go
through a process and I don't know that we can kick the can down the road too far here because there are responsibilities in our ordinances are as an administrative form of government. And again, I just I want to reiterate
what I said at the beginning is the way the motion reads and read last time is it's assigning some of the duties and responsibilities. So basically the things that need to be done, right? Uh signing the bills, right? If we have to
pay bills within 30 days or what whatever those things are or if some very emergent situation came up. uh maybe just keeping us on track as a council because we are we do have to go through the budget process just making sure that you know different department heads are you know continuing on with their budgets. So it it does it's not
necessarily the full-fledged take on a 100% of the role of city administrator if that makes sense. So my thought is if we have a staff member that said sure I'm willing to do it understanding it's short time it's
narrow in scope um understanding what they have on their plate already with their full-time responsibilities versus trying to force someone that is not interested in taking it on. Well, I don't think we could force anybody to take it. Technically could,
but I don't think that's the right thing to do. Technically, we could, but that's I'm not going to go down that path. I will not be against forcing someone to take the position. Um, I my personal belief is, and this is just
my lens, I think it makes sense to have a department head in that role for the short term, right? to assign those duties and some of the duties and responsibilities. Just to be clear on the language, are you trying to pick somebody up, Mark? I'm looking, but they won't make
eye contact. So, well, I'm just gonna say that. So, so if we look at it, you've got you you've we've got a few choices here. Okay. If we want to stick with a a department head, we've got Tom Blommer,
we've got Brian, we've got Terry, and I know Todd isn't the chief yet, but soon we'll be. So, we have Am I missing anybody? Oh, Stephen. So that's where you're looking. If we want to stick with a department head,
um, I'm pretty sure two of them will say no. Does anybody here have opposition for being a non-EP department head? Depends. Who have you got mind? Maggie. Maggie Hamlet.
I respectfully decline. Is there a reason we wouldn't reconsider Amber at this point? because I think we're going to get the same response. Well, I don't want to have the department has better here say yes or no.
That wouldn't be right. Any other ideas? Okay. Well, doing nothing isn't really an option. So, I mean, otherwise, we have to continue this and pick a specific date and time, but it can't be too far in the future. But I think we're going to end up in the same place. I mean, yeah. I don't know. We don't want
to force anybody in to do it. I I agree with that, you know. So, you know, I guess I don't know. Um, yeah. I mean, we can pick somebody that's not in the room, too, but if they decline, that doesn't help. So, I would
say that, you know, we'd want to go to Amber. I don't know what else is Amber able to come here because here's where I'm at with it. We've had two individuals already decline. one being nominated and the other one on the precipice of being nominated.
Does Amber truly want to do it? Take your word for it. Absolutely. But uh based off the two saying no, I would feel more reassured knowing that Amber actually wants to take it. Is Is she able to be called in? She she won't
be here until I think she has family things right now, but I she'll be here for the for the uh regular council meeting. Well, then my recommendation would be, unless other council members have other ideas,
is we continue this meeting at 7 when Amber's here. Otherwise, we're just going to sit here and swirl around here. Yeah. I mean, I don't Tom, we can do that, right? Yeah. You'd have to make a motion, too. Yeah.
Go ahead. I mean, if everybody wants to talk to Amber and she's in the room, I think that's fair. But otherwise, yeah, I wouldn't have any problem moving ahead with Amber. But whatever whatever people think the right choice to do is,
and then we just end this meeting, pick it up again at seven and move on. We need to make a motion to continue this meeting to 7:00. We need a second and then we need to vote. Um and then we would adjourn this and move to the workshop. So I'll make a
motion to continue this meeting at 7 o'clock tonight. Second it. All right. Any additional discussion? All those in favor signify by saying I. I. I. Okay. Motion carries. Um I will make a motion to adjurnn. Do we have a second? Second.
All right. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. Okay. Our special meeting is adjourned. Okay. Do we need to pause Kiki to do a Part: 2
I'd like to do this. So what if Amber gets here and she's like no then what are our options? We don't we we take continuance we pick a date and time so we can we out it's probably night. So
we have to specify it continue next Monday. Yeah. Or 5 p.m. And then we got five days.
Um but I mean the other thing What I'd like to see is if we can get it, you know, just have it in. So let's see this for Oh. by the motion take
kind of their name and then you get no this what do you should I just handle or should we pause or something right like it didn't really come up before honestly stating that or making that clear. My
what the action Oh yeah. Um, right. Right. That needs to be put out, right? You know what I'm saying? Yep. I think talking now will help. I think the next conversation will help
everything he's going now. I think I assume it also is it okay? I'd like to call to order the city of Nisa city council workshop for Tuesday, June 17th. originally scheduled for 5:00 p.m. but now starting at 5:35.
Um, with that, I'd also like to make a motion that item B on the agenda, the future planning discussion for the potential development of new city property on Highway 371 south of County Road 77, uh, be continued to a future
date. because we are in the absence um and in this gap space of not having an administrator or interim city administrator. I think it would be hard to have a a very deep dive detailed discussion and give direction because we don't necessarily have uh the person to
lead staff to take council input and to be able to drive things forward. I would like to clarify some things on the property. We won't go into how to develop and stuff like that, but to I mean
most of the citizens residents in this I don't know that that that talks about this have been going on for almost 26 years and that um so this has been looked at for many many years and
the irony is is the land that we ended up purchasing is pretty much what they were looking at in 2007. But that's all I wanted to say. Do we need a motion or anything? I made the motion. Do we have a second? Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't know it was a motion. I'll second it. Is there any additional
discussion about the land? Okay. All those in favor of continuing to a future date signify by saying I. I. I. All right. Motion carries. Um the next item on here is the review of the government city structure. Um now this
one in the packets for everybody. Um our our previous interim administrator Tim had prepared um a presentation that he was intending to go over with us as a council to walk through the different structures of uh
local government in Minnesota. And I trust everyone had a chance to look through that. Um he also then provided um there was a city of Nisa clerk administrator study that was done in 2017
um as well. So that report was also in our packet as well as um a memo from the previous administrator Jenny Max. And then also Tim had a proposed city of
Nisa action plan. So, like a 30, 45 um 90-day action plan. And he had communicated to me that he went over this action plan when he met in his meet and greets with each council member um to brief everybody on this, but there
were things that he was hoping to get guidance and direction from the council on tonight. And some of it again, maybe we may kind of be in that limbo phase until we get uh we'll figure out the governing structure and then drive forward there. But that was the first
thing he wanted to get um affirmation on from the council is to get affirmation on our current structure of an administrator or if there were direction from the council on a change in the governing structure. And so I guess I'd
like to just start there and open it up to council for feedback, thoughts, perspective on the governing structure. Uh Mark, do you want to start? Well, if we go and look at the study, I
mean, even their their recommendations from that study was that we have a uh that we move forward with creating an administrator clerk position. Um the list of the reasons why
I mean I mean do I go through it all? Um, but that was the recommendation after the whole thing. So, I think that's where we need to go with the city administrator full-time. That's my thought. That's where I stand.
Okay, Bruce. Not sure at this point. Okay, Jesse, your thoughts? I would like to see a city administrator uh position be fulfilled here with longer term perspective of merging it with the clerk position. Um evaluating looking at the
material from appear to be David Donna Associates. It's in the packet um page. It's actually the second to last page in a report from uh DDA which was from 2017
I believe. Mhm. Um it is a city administrator/clerk position on here and the structure below is there's a deputy clerk that reports to the city administrator clerk then the rest of the department heads underneath
and above the city administrator clerk of course as a city council then above that citizens. I think the structure makes sense. Seems to me that we've slightly frayed from it. Maybe just on the form of titles or uh duties and responsibilities since
we've got since we uh went out and sourced our first city administrator in I believe it was 2017. So I like this format. Um, merging the two I don't think needs to be an immediate priority because we have
to of course find our replacement full-time city administrator if that's the direction the council wants to go. Merging the two uh positions I think is wise and perhaps even targeted by the end of this year first
quarter of 26. Yeah, I guess I don't have a lot to comment on. Um I I also think, you know, that that's a good direction to start looking based upon everything that I've learned the last few weeks and months
from the attorneys and and even um from Tim the other resources. Um, as we would build that structure, I guess I'd have specific questions kind of like maybe what you have Jesse with the deputy clerk, stuff like that. What the
timeline looks like, but I guess I'm not opposed to exploring that. And I mean, additionally on this, it's missing the position of financial specialist, unless I'm missing it somewhere. No, it's so it's missing that position that would need to be added, of course. Um, but this is from 2017. I don't have
ingrained in my memory what the org chart for the city looks like today, but I would imagine it reflects Kiki or Maggie's position since she's been here. I think it's her 12 year anniversary today if I'm not mistaken. Sorry. Happy belated anniversary.
Um and then yeah, that's all I have actually. Okay. Um I tend I tend to be in agreement with well an administrator clerk is still
sticking with an administrator structure right so I am in agreement with that as well and the way that Tim had explained like the deputy clerk to me is he said it's also kind of like an admin position right um it'd be someone that
could do some of the administrative responsibilities um perhaps be like the conduit at the front um also help with the elections and whatnot. So that's that's how he had explained it to me. Um his explanation seemed to make sense. Um
and again I agree I think the more immediate pressing need is finding the long-term individual for that role and then looking at you know a structural a structural change within an administrator structure can happen at any time. From my takeaway from my first
and subsequent last meeting with Tim last Wednesday was that structure from what he is used to. obviously larger cities and I understand and respect that, but the liaison positions and the subcommittees that we
have also are not necessary based off of proper structure and it being abided to such as personnel committee or liquor committee um possibly public works committee. The planning and zoning uh committee is essential but on the basis
of having the city administrator clerk position being the effective quarterback of the city staff as the CEO general manager you name it running the show. The council reports or excuse me the
city administrator clerk reports to the council. The council does not bypass that clerk and go to the other department's heads is how he related to me as it fitting from his existing uh structures from his
positions in the past. Correct. So I spent extensive time with Tim probably every single day that he was here multiple times on the phone. So yes, he did articulate that. But also one difference and it is a key difference and it should be noted is if you look at
the cities where he came from he came from like Golden Valley was his most recent position and that's a statutory B city where the voters voted on that type of structure and that is a structure where the council literally they for the most part they can hire and and or fire
the city manager not a city administrator and then they pass a budget for the most part, but the city manager runs a show. The city manager is in charge of everything else. Everything runs through that city manager. Correct. Um you you wouldn't necessarily have
liaison. Council wouldn't be reaching out to staff. Everything would flow through the city administr or through the city manager in that instance. Um and an NOA was largely the same way from my understanding. Um I think we're a little bit different of a city. um we're
not as large, we're a bit smaller. Um so I just I think it's kind of an apple and an orange in some senses. Well, the thing I don't like about a management structure is the fact that they have the power to hire and fire anybody they want to. Not coming through the council. I don't like that. Yeah. And our
administrator, it has to come through the council. Yeah. Our our our ordinance are we're we're set up different. We're a statutory a and we're our city is driven by our ordinances. council hires and fires everyone, right? Um, so in our
case, like for example, just say a department head, like yes, the administrator as it stands now is going through that process. Um, but there are other cities that are set up like us where, you know, and I heard I heard this from different council members when I was running for mayor of like, oh,
we're not as involved. We want to we want to be leading more. We want to have more involvement in the city and know what's going on. is that if you have a very communicative uh individual in that role, no council should ever council member should ever
feel that way, right? And there's also cities that do things where like the administrator, again using the example of hiring, let's say a department head, they would go through and go, you know, post the position, source the resumes, do the first round, but they might include a council member or two perhaps
to be a part of that. Um, and for the final round, right? So that there is some council involvement in that. So there are carveouts in that sense. So again that's more getting into the minutia um which can be determined doesn't have to be determined today. But those are just some of the things that
were explained to me. But that's I guess that's a broader question for this council. Does this council want to have more involvement or not have more involve right in that sense? Right. Well, Jesse's correct in the fact that
when you have an administrator, that's generally they take on the liaison position. However, and I agree with Jesse on that, that's why you have an administrator. They are the liaison between the department heads and the council. Um, with that said,
I think some of our department heads would find comfort in having a council liaison. I'm just saying that, you know, I I haven't taken a survey, but I think if you feel more comfortable in, you know, that's how it's been done forever. But so maybe we stick with that at first
and then phase it out, you know, um because if I were in that situation and and somebody was in here that I'm just saying if someone came in, they didn't have the best interest of that department head, they may not be dis
bringing stuff forward to us. And then you have a this and that. So I think at first we just keep it and then look at phasing it out. That's where I stand. You know, I like the idea of the full-time city administrator. I
think something like that. Okay. I think we should uh work on something like that. Okay. Okay. Well, it sounds like there's agreement by this council to stick with the administrator structure. Um, so then the
next item that was on that Tim wanted to get our perspective on or to get guidance on was okay. If we're at a city administrator, he he wanted to look for direction on whether the council would be interested in having a council committee that would lead the process or
hire a search firm. And if a search firm, the idea would be to start collecting proposals. Do we have a cost of a search firm? I mean, I I think they used a firm the last time, didn't they? I think it was this DDA. Yeah. Yeah, it was. The
number he gave to me that he said to me just loosely is he said anywhere between 15 and 30,000. 15 to 30,000. 15 to or 15 to 35 is maybe what he said. That might not be precise, but that's again he was giving a range and I thought that's a range because I I said,
"Wow, that's kind of expensive, right?" But um but again in here, he said if the council were interested in hiring a search firm, then you know, he was going to begin collecting proposals to then come back to council with.
So it might not be 15 to 30, it could be less, right? So just my question back to kind of Mark's point too, you know, and some stuff that's been brought up here in the past, you know, I don't know if involvement's the right word, but um for
instance, this building project, you know, us having the ability to give Tom more authority as the department head for like change orders, stuff like that. when it comes up. Our current structure
is not set up that way, you know, and so also to doing that dive in ahead of time so that we're we're all on the same page because it is a broad range of the way it can be set up versus the way that you
explained it, Jennifer, and the way that Tim was explaining it kind of made big city, little city. I think that's a important thing. I'm not sure when the correct time to kind of dive into some of those issues are, but that'd be important thing to all talk about too
and get on the same page with on on how we want it to look. Just using that as a a current example in our city. I think those things should be discussed before we get a full-time administrator if we do. I mean that that there so I yeah because I you know because some of that may have to be
you know do we have to change tweak the job descriptions and so forth but yes because it kind of ties their hands if they have something come up and they can't do it and then they got to come to us at the next meeting and we have so it pushes the time out so yes I think that's one of the things we need to look
at I think that's also goes to the third item that Tim wanted to come to the council with is on hiring a consultant but I I don't want to jump to that yet. Um, getting past this, what what council's thoughts are on having a
council committee lead the process for searching for an administrator or hiring a search firm. I I'll share my perspective out of the gate. I mean, I am very fiscally right. Everyone knows where I stand on that. like finding ways to keep taxes flat um
for next year or even find a cut if we can. But to me, I think a search firm would make sense just in terms of people that have a pool of folks to go to or have that those networks because
having a council committee lead it, you know, would only be able to be two of us is I can just say I don't have time right now, right? I mean, I've been struggling to keep my head above water at this point.
Um, yeah, you should engage the services of a of a search form. The sort of candidates that you're looking for are going to expect to go through a process like that rather than something else and and may discard the notion of getting involved in a search if it sources
somehow else. I think I recall, we can fact check this, but I think I recall when this happened eight years ago, um that source well was involved from the standpoint of some matching funds for a search would take the edge off of
that sticker shock, but you're going to have that kind of expense, but I want to say they matched it. That's worth looking into. Good, Joe.
Yeah, I agree. I'll search for Jesse Bruce. Yes, Mark. Okay. Um, the next thing Tim had was, and this is under the 45 days, if council stays with the current form of government, analyze
administrative staff structure to be sure duties and responsibilities align well to best deliver services. Um, this could be changing positions, job duties, right? And this I think comes up under that you know like if it were to shift to the administrator clerk and deputy
clerk and how that looks. Um so he had reached out to a uh consultant who um focuses on kind of this structure, personnel management, all of that. and
had gotten a scope um of services and so he wanted to come to the council and ask um if there would be direction to hire the consultant not to exceed 5,000 to do the analysis. Yes, I also agree that you know to have a consultant come in and help us with
that and define this stuff would be a good idea. Was the consultant firm? Um, we actually interviewed him as a second finalist. Uh, Keith, he talked a lot in that interview about
how he has his own consulting firm. He is farmed out all over the state to different governing bodies to do exactly this. And what exactly will his firm be providing for scope? So, it's my understanding that Tim and
Keith had had some meetings and conversations and then this is the scope that he was waiting on from Keith which came shortly after he was not here. Yeah. So it looks like meet with staff, meet with O,
kind of sit down and figure out the structure and what would work the best moving ahead is my understanding. Mark, any input? Bruce, um,
regarding this, uh, Keith? U, I think he'd be useful, Jesse. So essentially the organizational assessment that he'd be performing is going to provide us a report to some extent
he's going to offer an opinion outlining an action plan a road map for the city of NWA okay is that to help us provide clarity on to our structure I think so and to clear have clear Yep like clear
on the job descriptions clear on the roles roles and respons responsibilities that or chart some of the stuff that Joe just mentioned like hey can we give department head a higher spent right some of these things all these things could factor into this when when the
council's involved when the council's not involved ys Yeah. I mean, okay, move ahead with it. All right. And then the last one he had was for council to determine
if amendments are needed to the city's comprehensive plan. The process was last done starting in 2017, adopted in 2019. But then the specific one that was highlighted is the planning and zoning ordinance. Um he he want he was looking for council to give direction to proceed
with working with Chris Pence for as it relates to planning and zoning ordinances. I believe that came up at our last council meeting, but it was a loose discussion. Um and in Tim's time here, we did have a meeting and sit down with Chris Pence so they could meet and he could hear, you
know, from him, right, the the consulting services he would provide in the planning and zoning area. Um, and so that was the last one on this item or under this workshop of government structure. Aren't they working together right now?
Some of the ordinances. Yeah, this is to keep moving in that direction, correct? Yeah. So Chris came up here, met with um um Stephen and and Tim, myself and Jennifer and stuff, and Chris kind of laid out some stuff, talked about some different stuff to
kind of keep moving. It's just still going down the same um path or foundation that Bethany had started, right? Just carrying on with that as you're familiar with. So sounds good to me.
Bruce, Bessie, then Joe. Okay. Um, that was basically what he had. Does anyone have any else that they want to speak about related to it? I don't.
I guess my question, you know, to move ahead with finding a consultant, is that something, you know, that we're going to assign to the new interim city administrator right away as first duties to do? Yes. Yes. Yep. And then also the
the scope of services from Keith, right, and Chris, right? Yes. And Chris. Okay. Um, if there's nothing else, I guess a motion to adjourn the workshop would be in order. I so move. Second. Okay. All those in
favor signify by saying I. I. Okay. We are journed. You can't start,