Good evening. Uh here we are Wednesday, December 17th, the meeting of the finance committee of the North County Advisory Board 6:00 start. Read uh the executive order
participation on March 28, 2025. Governor Haley signed into law H62 an act relative to extending certain CO 19 measures adopted during the state of emergency which includes a two-year extension of the option of public bodies
to hold remote meetings by suspending certain provisions of the open meeting law general chapter 38A section 18-25. The action was effective immediately extending the current option for remote
meetings through June 30th, 2027. >> Thank you. >> Well, at this point in time, I'll call the meeting to order. >> Mr. R. >> Yes, Mr. Chair. Dr. Charles, >> yes.
>> Ch Mr. Becker. >> Yes. Mr. Fitzpatrick. Mr. Padulla, Mr. Murphy. Murphy. Okay. So, we have
a quorum of four. >> Okay. At this time, I call the meeting over to Mr. Coron. >> Thank you, Mr. Chair. Good evening, members of the finance committee. Very happy holidays to each of you. Um, this
evening we have a relatively brief second supplemental budget. um uh proposal for you inclusive of transfers and reallocation of funds. Um this evening I will ask for the finance committee consider two motions. Um the first to potentially approve the
submitted supplemental and transfer request and a separate vote for the um agricultural schools reallocation of capital funds. Um Phil, if you could uh pull up the spreadsheet known as the FY26 second supplemental budget summary.
show the finance community the highlights that'll come next standby folks. So, while Bill is pulling this up, um I want to bring the finance committee back to our meeting in September, um where we
spent $131,800, excuse me, $131,575. As the spreadsheet on the screen shows, um this evening, we are requesting um a total of $95,700 to be further supplemented to certain
line items. I will go through them now, but before I do, I just want to remind you when we begin fiscal year, we parked $300,000 for potential stabilization account deposit later in the fiscal year and another $100,000 perhaps towards our
OPED contribution. Um those actions will be put uh put to you uh likely in April um as we wind down facilia 26 and in the hopes that we don't need any of those uh uh resources between now and then. So this evening, uh, our supplemental I
request, as I said, are modest and they start with $50,000 to fund legal services. Um, as you know, the county has one line item. This particular amount would be to assist the county in defending itself against the third lawsuit that the registered deeds has taken out against the county. This u
particular lawsuit deals with his opposition to the hiring service, hiring um um protocols of the of the county. Um, this lawsuit was taken out, I believe, in late October. Uh, it is early on and it'll likely go well into
FY26 and possibly into FY27. Next, um, contractual services in our, um, regional services area. We need $15,000. We had a volunteer full-time employee who, uh, retired in September. And over the last several months, um, the new
federal administration has, um, uh, had a very close look at the RSVP program, the Americanore program, and has, um, at least sent us signals that continuation or new grants associated with that program are being reviewed and
scrutinized. Um, there is no expectation that it will be automatically funded uh, come time come sometime in the spring. So, we did not want to hire somebody into a program that possibly could be removed by federal resources. Instead,
we'll fund um a temporary um uh contract through the end of June to assist with um the volunteer services program. If and when we learn that the federal government is indeed going to open up the application for the next three-year
grant opportunity, we'll alert the advisory board and likely then move to um bring the FTE back in in place. But uh we certainly didn't want to bring on an FTE at a time of uncert uncertainty. Thus the temp the register deeds the
register as you can see in the call out asked for $120,000 in the various buckets you see in the right last week the commission has agreed to fund a portion of them including a $200 longevity payment shortage in their account um $20,000
towards printing and binding and also $6,000 towards stationary office supplies to support toner and heat cartridges. Um, in a minute I'll talk about transfers, but that printing and binding category is also being bolstered by about a $32,000 deposit um, which
I'll discuss in a minute. Engineering needed $4,500 to complete their work that was um, started in um, the summer of 2025 uh, at the Wall Recreational Facility to redo two tennis courts. So, this completes that project and their
obligations to it. in green. As you can see, we call out the color because we're funding two programs, two projects rather, of facility maintenance. One at Brookline District Court for carpet replacement totaling $16,800 and another $10,000 for the Retham
District Court rest bathroom restroom repair. These projects will be funded through the Quinsey District Court um fund, which will require a two-thirds vote this evening, Mr. Chair, if you are inclined to support it. Um, as a call out note, um, this particular account is
reimburseable account. So, we aim to only use it for court purposes and then once the the state reviews our expenditures, we'll get reimbursed in about 18 months and put the money back into this account. That totals the $95,700. Mr. Chair, if you don't mind, I'll just
briefly go through the transfers and wrap up for any questions if that's okay. Good. uh the transfers in a in a short um explanation $120,26 coming from our salary reserve or the remainder of the salary reserve into the
following departments for non union cola costs. As you may recall back in September, the county wrapped up its three contracts. We moved money from our seller reserve for the union personnel. The county commissioners then approved the non-union cost. This uh dollar transfer makes their accounts whole.
That includes the regional services department, Wallson Recreational Facility Commissioner's Office, the IT department, treasurer's office, register deeds, facility maintenance. Um, to wrap it up, that's 12206 going back to the line items. The registry of deeds in
September, as you know, underwent an FY26 budget modification as a result of lower than expected spending. Um, that 32,736 was taken out of the printing and binding account. Um the register in his request to us um asked that that reduction be placed against the salary
line, not printing and binding. The commissioners agreed. So we're looking to transfer the reduction from um uh printing and binding to the reduction in salary. So that's what that adjustment is for. uh the observations ahead uh are
probably at this point I would I would skip that because I have a PowerPoint that I'll show uh you in just a moment before I move into that space I wanted to at this point stop because that's the end of the financial presentation and ask if there's any questions Mr. chairman through you. >> Yes.
>> Um, so if I understand this right, the 32,000 going from salaries to printing and binding is being combined with the 20,000. So he's getting 52,736 of change out of the 80,000 he was asking for >> in effect. Yes. Okay. >> But his salary is being reduced by
>> Right. Okay. >> And yes, he can take that hit because he has not backfilled several positions. >> Yes. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Any other question? >> Another question, John. So, back in September, and I'm I'm looking at the
RSVP uh supplement to 15,000. It looks like back in September, there was an approval for $6,000 and that seemed to have a footnote RSVP. Was that 6,000 ball going don?
>> Not really. The That's a good catch, Rick. It was a we hired a temp under the commissioner's office to help us with a um archiving projects. We were removing old documents and consolidating them with 614 High Street in our new central filing location. That temp uh completed
that work and it was around this time that we saw the um the effects of not having a full-time volunteer coordinator. So, we moved $6,000 to keep that attempt moving in that direction until his time with us ended. And then
we put the position out to bid. And when the, you know, interview cycle was coming to a close, the group had a huddle to kind of discuss really maybe we ought to pause, maybe we ought not take this step. So the 6,000 was the initial bridge that helped us finish up
the archiving project and begin a little bit of the effect of backfilling with volunteer coordinated services. Um, but he's gone. He left u I think in late September just nothing. Any other questions? >> Bill, if you could pull up the the deck
presentation. Um, this is um merely three pages of notes. Um, I'd like to keep you folks updated on hither and neither. Um, this was not in your packet. I put this together yesterday. So, sort of capturing the essence of
miscellaneous issues. Give you a more wholesome view of what we're doing here. Thanks, Bill. So, the county requests uh two transactions. When you combine the 100 um excuse me, the 95,700 with all the transfers, the value of that
transactional page is $275,443.70. In addition, I'm going to ask for your um approval to transfer $355,000. not sorry transfer reallocate $355,000 for capital projects that had been allocated previously for the Aggie and briefly
when the Aggie did its FY26 budget they had approximately half a million dollars that they were going to use for miscellaneous capital projects the new superintendent Jeremy Gray has looked at these projects and said you know I want to reconfigure some of them because he just got a $100,000 grant from the state
to help uh renovate upgrade and uh otherwise modernize green houses out back to complement that earmark. He's going to reallocate $355,000 from those projects into this. Um, and I have a motion for you. We're ready for that, Rick. Okay. >> Okay.
>> Um, the majority of the uh transactions, as I mentioned, are from the FY26 Colar expenses for non-UN staff. The county requested uh 26,800 from the Quinsey Capital to fund those two projects in green. I think you already reviewed those. And then, of course, 95,700
total. Page three, Bill. These are quick hit notes. Just want to keep you in the loop. Um, the treasur's office has begun their operational review. Uh, the contractor is expecting to be done um, sometime late January of 2026.
Uh, the register, as I mentioned, has initiated the third lawsuit against the county relative to the hiring process outlined in the 2024 employee handbook. Uh, some good news. Wson Recreational Facility has ended calendar year 25 with a projected $184,000
increase in revenue above calendar year 24. Um FY26 spending to date shows on target with small pockets of surplus developing and um some of them I trust. I see some surplus uh in the six figured
range for uh utilities. uh some of the other surpluses may start to tighten a little bit as we go on, but basically I'm quite happy with our spending position. I don't see any difficulties at all. FY26 revenue, as I mentioned, complementing the W recreational
facility um is also looking at some favorability from deeds excise. It's slightly above benchmark. Remember, we brought deeds excise up. I can't remember how much from FY24 uh FY25 to 26. So, we realized what the new floor
was for revenue and we're exceeding that right now by about 65 grand. It's not a ton of money, but it's favorable. And who knows with the recent reduction from the Fed, we could see some more activity from the exact size revenue, which would be welcome. Um, so overall, our revenue
is above benchmark by $275,000. Uh, and then the last slide, um, this is FY27 looking ahead. Um, we're looking at a potential $400,000 increase in retirement liability costs for FY27. Uh,
I'm looking around the room. Many of you are members of the North County retirement system and you know that that board has been trying to close its liability gap to adhere to the PAR guidelines of funding their liability by 2040. Um, they recently switched from an payroll based to an actuarial based
calculation which hit the county very hard I might add. Um, nevertheless, um, the increases have been, uh, to some extent tolerable, but the one for FY27 hits hard. It's, um, quite a lot of money. It's really related to factors that occurred years ago. Um, I've spoken
to Commissioner Collins, uh, but when the Brain Tree rehab was closed about 20 years ago, I believe in full, the county offered an early retirement incentive to some of those employees. Um, and E-IPS are good when you get them, but problem is people live longer on your pension.
So, we're holding a liability for a lot of those people. 40 of them actually still around from those um now closed brain injury rehab. That combined with um the county's actuarial based uh calculations are squeezing us. There is a little good news. The FY28 number
looks like it levels off. And as I said in the spring, as you look at a long-term view of where this liability is going, it starts to sunset in about five to six years. Um, and at that time the county is going to realize um about a $3 million windfall. So, we got to
kind of keep our our belt tighten before we get there. But 27 is going to be a challenge to u meet this large increase. Karge, the vendor the commissioners have contracted with to um build out solar um arrays here at the Agricultural High
School began have begun their what we call the 3A North Street phase. Um it's underway. The vendor expects the system to be online about this time next year, generating somewhere around $100,000 per year. Um, they are navigating the final steps for the second project known as
Fiser Street. Uh, they had a hearing between the town of Walpole with the town of Walpole planning board this past fall. Uh, the planning board voted unfavorably leading Gear Serge back to court. We don't expect they'll be in court long because we believe the case law is very strong that the town of Abal
pole will be um vanquished and eventually this project will come back online and uh I would expect if it does begin that we won't see any real financial benefit till the back end of fiscal year 27. Um and then finally um a lot of communities in this room I'm sure as
well we're going to be monitoring group insurance costs by 27th. There's a lot of chatter out there at the MMA and other areas about costs increases. Um the expected release of that percentage change from Mayflower Municipal Health Group will be sometime in March 2026. Before I go any further and before I
conclude, I just want to recognize Gerard Foy, the county's new human resources directors. Uh Gerard joined us about a little over a month ago and u he's going to be working a lot on the budget process and he's our point of contact with MLA. Final slide. On behalf of the county commissioners, I want to
thank each of you for your consideration of this request and I am very happy to answer any questions you might have. Thank you, >> John. If we could just go back for a second to uh >> to the transfer request. I guess my question would be uh being that this
money is being taken from the salary reserve and again in September there was a transfer I believe for some union settlements. So do you have any uh could you just give me some ideas what that salary reserve account has for balance?
>> It'll be zero. >> It'll be zero >> after this transfer. >> Okay. >> So this transfer brings it to that zero. >> Correct. >> Okay. Any idea how how many the number of employees that this would impact all these transfers these non-un
transfers? >> The non-union um about 50 give or take. I get you the actual number on the payroll would be >> okay great and the other question I I have would be are those
settlements to these non-UN go back to a retro period >> J uh July one >> they've already been distributed >> okay they were authorized back in September by the commissioners so these departments been consuming their FY26 salary appropriation with the 3% this
makes them I guess the other question only other question I have just to catch up I guess is what is the current balance in that Quinzy board? >> Uh it's approximately $10 million. >> 10 million.
>> We haven't spent anything out of that yet. This >> you have not spent anything. you authorized uh funding for the Denim Superior Court ventilation uh project, but we withheld it last year um and put it back in. Um so technically no.
>> Okay. >> Well, Mr. Chairman, um I would ask when you consider a motion that you may want to call out um the fact that a twothirds majority is required on the motion because if it is going to be inclusive, >> okay,
>> the items in green, uh if it does not meet two/3s, you'll need to call them out separate. >> Thank you. >> Or we can take it as two separate motions. >> You could right >> and I do want to make a point for the record that Mr. Ruby has joined us.
Traffic lights were not friendly to me. Mr. >> Just a little bit of background too. Um John Mass rehab. So that was a Massachusetts respiratory hospital back and then uh the non-union money is the
exact same percentage that that the unions got. Once we had to wait for the union contract to go through and once they went through all the non-unions got the same deal retroactive to July 1st just like the unions have done. >> Thank you. >> Sure. >> Mr. Chair, may I will you ask a question
of the director? >> Absolutely. >> Um John, the $50,000 for legal services, is that strictly under the commissioners or and what do the legal fees out of the registry look like?
Uh yes, it would strictly be for the commissioners. That's the intention. Um currently, as you know, the um the FY26 budget includes earmarked not more than $7,000 with the registry of deeds. He has uh sent in two separate requisitions
or two separate lawyers. Um I believe he has suspended half of that amount. The other half is encumbered for an attorney, but not expended. >> Okay. There's been a history of spending before any appropriations. So, I just wanted to double check that.
>> Understood. >> Well, one point to make also is last year in April, I believe, um, was when it was brought to us about the bills that hadn't been paid yet on the registry. >> Um, and we gave we we did the transfer
and gave a directive that they should be paid before August. And as far as I know, they have not been paid to date. >> So, that is correct. Um during the recent um legal um relationship with Denim Superior
Court, the register, uh Attorney Lopez uh informed the court that that payment to attorney Ken had not been made. Um the judge responded with a judgment, I believe about a week ago, uh directing the register to make that payment by uh
December 15th and um that that has been achieved. So the register complied ultimately as a result of judicial court order >> fiat. That's correct. >> So just in terms of process I do have a
question here's uh in terms of how what the presentation would be here. John, if we look at this document on the screen, Bill, could you just bring that down to a total? Okay. So, we're looking at a total there
at 275 440 370. And the only difference between that and the 95700, John, would be what? The transfers. >> Okay. >> It's the It's the 957. >> Yep. >> Plus the 120,
>> right? 206. Plus the 32. >> Plus the 32,000. Yeah. >> Mr. Chairman, I'll make a motion to approve the second supplemental budget summary separate from the um Quincy court items which require a two-thirds
vote. We'll do that separate. Yep. Second. Second. Second on the record. You want to give me a You want me to give you a value excluding the uy core pieces, Eric? So, it's 268, right?
>> That's correct. 248 633.7 >> 24 >> 6337 >> and then you have the 26D that'll be a 2/3
and then don't forget the school 355 and that's a reallocation. I have a motion. So, I'll do I have to amend the motion at the end. >> Make the motion now if you want to approve each one. >> So, I'll make a motion to approve the
second supplemental budget summary for a total of $248,633.70. >> Is there a second? >> Mr. R. Call. Mr. Murvy. I >> Mr. Hi, >> Dr. Charles.
>> I step back. >> Hi. >> And now, Mr. >> Mr. Chairman, I make a motion to approve the um district court monies from the Quincy District Court account. The
amount of $26,800. >> Second. Second, Mr. >> R. Roll call. Mr. Murphy. >> Hi. >> Mr. R. >> Hi. >> Dr. Childs. >> I. >> Mr. Beckham. >> I car.
>> And M. Mr. Chairman, I make a motion to deauthorize the expenditure of 355,000 from the following previously approved fiscal year 2026 Northfor County agricultural high school capital projects, 105,000 from electric
passenger van, 150,000 from admin building replacement, 100,000 from campus lighting, and authorized the expenditure of $455,000 inclusive of $100,000 state earmark for the purpose of renovation and replacement of the green houses located
in the plant science building. Second, Mr. Ren call Mr. Murvy. >> Hi. >> Mr. R. >> Hi, >> Dr. Charles. >> Hi, >> Mr. Beckerman. >> Hi. >> Okay. Y
Mr. Chairman, I make a motion to approve the minutes of executive session meeting of September 17th. >> Oh, be sorry. Divided, sorry, you have a second. >> Second proposal, Mr. Murphy. Or if there's two
minutes, you're moving for the executive session. Yes, the executive session >> child. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> Mr. Chair. >> Hi.
>> I'm easy to forget. Mr. here. So in the executive session, Matt, what we usually do is uh not to be released until the chair circles. Hey, I just didn't matter here. >> And I will make a motion. >> Sorry. Go ahead. >> Make a motion to approve the minutes of
open session meeting on of September 17th of the finance committee. >> Second. I have comments on the minutes. before we vote. >> Yep. Editorial on the editorial budget.
Um on page three, uh the second full paragraph or to Mr. Trump has stated he objects to Mr. Pledo's opinion. I would I would probably use the word speculation as opposed to opinion. He didn't actually express an opinion. He asked the question that reflected speculation
over accuracy. I think that would be and then uh two paragraphs down is just a typo. If chairman Beckerman stated the advisory board, I would have made that if I had opened up the conversation and on the fourth page at the top
this although this might be true too he stated the committee met and reviewed the proposal. Mr. Fitzpatrick stated the finance committee unanimously recommended approval as opposed to the finance committee recommending it. They probably do want to be a recommended.
>> Okay. >> So, do you want to make a motion on the amended minutes? >> I move that we approve the amended minutes as described. >> Second, Mr.
Roll call. Hi, Mr. R. Hi, Dr. Charles. Hi, >> Mr. Becker. Hi. We have any other topics that the chair did not reason to begin to speak. >> Anybody have anything else? >> Motion to adjurnn.
>> Second. Roll call. Mr. Murphy. Hi. Mr. R. Hi. Dr. Charles. I >> Mr. Becker. Hi. Sure. >> Okay. It looks like we have a quorum, so we will call the meeting to order. Um,
I'll read the executive order on remote participation. On March 28, 2025, Governor Haley signed into law House 62, an act relative to extending certain CO 19 measures adopted during the state of emergency, which includes a two-year extension of the option for public
bodies to hold remote meetings by suspending certain provisions of the open meeting law, general law, chapter 38, subsections 18 through 25. That action was effective immediately extending the current options for remote meetings through June 30th, 2027.
So, we'll start by taking a roll call vote. >> Avon, >> hold on, please. Are you ready? I'm not ready. So, give me a second here. Okay, now I'm ready. >> Hey, here. Uh, Bellingham.
Uh, Brainberry. >> Brooklyn here. >> Candon. Yes. Goass it denim do that thing doesn't begin with an uh let's see
Foxboro is present in the spirit of the season. Merrily present. >> Uh, Milis >> Milton >> here. >> Need >> here.
>> Norwood >> here. >> Planeville. >> He's here in the hallway. Isl good timing. No, we just hit your name. >> You're good. Uh Quinzy
>> here. >> Randall. >> Karen. >> Yeah. >> Stoden. Walpole. Welssley Westwood
>> here. >> Waywood. >> No, >> Westwood's here. >> Westwood is here. >> Yeah. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> And Wayimoth and Retham >> 51.98.
>> 51.98. So, we do have a core. Not >> We just have a What? >> How do we lose people? People lose >> jobs. Yeah, we had 52 when we started, Phil, didn't we? >> We gained two. >> Uh, well, let me What do I have? I have
Avon. I have Brooklyn. I have Denim. >> I have Bedfield. I have Milton Needm. >> Uh, so can I go? >> So, 55.61. Then I have Medfield, Milton,
Needam, Norwood, Planeville, Quinsey, uh, Sharon, and >> Medway. >> Medway was gloriously here. >> I have Medway. >> I have Medway. >> Oh, no. I 5721. That's >> 5721.
>> Keep on talking. We keep on going. >> Yeah. >> All right. So, we have a quorum of 57.21. All right. So we will start with the fiscal 26 second supplemental budget and transfer requests. Mr. Cron and director. >> Thank you Mr. Chair. Good evening
members of the advisory board. It's my pleasure to be with what I think was a modest uh supplemental request. In addition to that we have uh some transfer requests and finally a reallocation of capital requests from the agricultural school. Bill, if you'd be so kind as to bring up the
supplemental budget summary, please. Uh as he's doing that, commissioners, excuse me, advisor board members, remember back in September, um we spent approximately $131,575. Um this evening, we asked from that balance to expand $95,700.
You just scroll down a little bit. Uh Bill, to the supplemental needs this evening, we ask for the following supplemental needs. the first $50,000 uh in the commissioner's legal account um to fund additional legal services required as a result of the third
lawsuit filed by the register of deeds against the county government. Uh regional services, we're looking at $15,000 to fund contractual services. Registry of deeds. Uh we're looking to fund $200 for a longevity payment, $20,000 for printing and binding, and
$6,000 for stationery and office supplies for toner and ink. Our engineering department is looking for professional and technical services to complete the Wallis recreational facility tennis court uh uh project totaling $4,500. Our facility maintenance department,
you'll note, is in green. These two projects I'm requesting you fund from the so-called Quinsey account. It would require twothirds vote of this committee. The first is replace carpets of Brooklyn District Court totaling $16,800, excuse me, and $10,000 uh to complete
the Rentham District Court restroom repair. In total, these supplemental needs are $95,700. And I note of that $26,800 is coming from the Quincy District Court Fund. Moving on to transfer requests. Um,
you'll note that on this uh sheet, scroll down a little bit, quite a few are lined up against that 120,26.74. The county, as you may remember from September, had completed its negotiation with the uh recollective bargaining units. The union members were given a
draw back in September. Subsequent to that, the commission is approved 3% for non-UN. These funds will move the remaining balance of salary reserve from that account to the respective line items. Make them whole through June 30th, 2026. I won't read each one. You
can see how they line up against the salary reserve. And then finally, in the request for supplemental needs, the register of deeds has asked for a bit of a change. In September, this body, excuse me, reduced um his printing and
binding account by $32,736.96. He has requested that that amount come from his salary line group one instead. He does have a surplus this year as he has not backfilled at least two positions for two months. So there's a growing surplus there that can cover this. The commissioners agreed. So this
reduction or this reallocation of where things are going effectively puts $32,736.96 back into printing and binding expensive salaries. Um, I have a brief PowerPoint presentation which I will be happy to uh
bring up. But before I move on, are there any questions on the numbers before I get into this brief two-page PowerPoint? >> Mr. Pluto and uh on the uh on the uh money from the uh the rich deeds, what
what did he requested 8,000 you took 3200 salaries because they're not paying funding by now that that we basically said. So there's a couple questions in M Pledo. The first is he requested $120,000. That's in the callout box to the right. Of that 120, you're correct. He asked for $80,000
uh for printing and binding. Effectively, what we're providing him is 20,000 plus the 32,000. >> So 52,000 80. >> That's correct. And we base that on his historical spending and met. >> What happens if printing cost goes up
later in the year? >> Go back and ask for more money in April. Yeah, >> the uh >> or he can transfer other available groups where there are surpluses and we've noted that. >> Can you do that or who can do that? >> He can do it from certain groups. I think we talked about this in September.
For example, >> group two >> and also he can transfer from group three to group two with commissioner's approval. >> Both of both of commission approval. >> Yeah. the uh the long-term mission here of all the raises, are they all the same as
everybody? They make the same 3% raise. >> That's right. Union and on all the same%. >> Yes, sir. >> Thank you. Uh just, you know, I'm just concerned about the uh the loyalty bill, the $50,000. I know you talked last meeting about it. You know, I know it's
needed because the Austin's going on, but you know, I was in court last few times with him just sitting in the audience and and you know, I just seen you know, better head should prevail. I I mean, both sides are stubborn. Both sides don't want to move. Uh Billy
stubborn and I think the county director stubborn too. You know, you have your opinion and his opinion and the courts both times ruled against the county. Uh the last one on this blue paper issue uh supposedly three people went over you pro but not the other two. The judges
said the only time you come in front of us is you get a fall and when Lopez was Lopez was talking one of the times the judge rolled his rolled her eyes right right at him saying basically a couple of notches and get and get a decision while coming back to the court again. So
you know I think she I think they're tired of him on both sides. We lost twice Supreme Court and and uh just Supreme Court and and the major court Supreme Court. That's what I'm saying. So, you know, why don't we, you know, kind of lost I mean, you said it's
paying tax money. Maybe the county should sit back and say, "Listen, the courts are right and we're wrong. >> You what? >> Court cases are not finalized." >> Yeah, but because you want to appeal. I mean, I think the county is being very stubborn, completely stubborn about the issue. You're costing taxpayers money
and and you know I know what Billy wants. I know you guys want you want all the money. He wants some money. I'm not tell about all that issue. Okay. I don't know how the percent works. Okay. But he's had it for years and now you people don't want to give it to him. And you're stubborn about moving. And and so all you got to
do is he's not giving up. We all know that he'll keep on going another $50,000 a few months from now when he had to go to court two weeks a month ago on the blue papers. You put three people over there and they you appoint to one but not the other two. That's why his money
in real the same people got over in all three. So I don't know why he didn't appoint all three. They're both 3D investments of the of the Richard Gates. Okay. He's got off the street. He posted a job legally and advertised it legally and he wanted to interview people. He want those people in the drive. They're
both 30 years old. Okay. And another job I heard was wasn't even posted. The assistant job. you hire somebody internally. I I heard that wasn't posted and wasn't interviewed any but you put him through very fast without doing the proper leaks. So I I mean there's two different hands here going on.
>> Okay. Well, let me let me stop you for a second, Mr. Leo. First of all, this is not a personnel board. >> So we don't we don't rule on the personnel that goes to the commissioner's office and it's there. It >> cost us money. It cost us money to pay money. >> The money that you're talking about is not part of what we're talking about
today. >> Right. You're out of order for that part of it. >> Okay. Right. >> I I don't disagree with with your aspation, but it's not as simple as one side needs to meet the other side. It's not that simple. There's a lot more here than you think there is. And we all know that there's a lot more to this than
just as simple. There's a lot of procedures that that need to be followed that are not being followed. >> All right. Plain and simple. >> All right. Plain and simple. I agree and I did say that before that that we're spending taxpayers money to defend. We're the the county is spending
taxpayers money to defend against one of their own, >> right? >> Why? We we look at it and say you're saying it's our fault. He's saying it's our fault. We're saying it's his fault. >> Until somebody actually comes up with a definitive answer,
>> all right, it's not done yet. >> The problem is, >> but you're not but you're not hearing what I'm saying. the monies that he's asking for. All right. It's a matter of clarifying what the law actually says. All right. >> And and I think at this board has all
been in agreement as far as the expenditures versus the allocation. That was the main issue going. >> Well, in any case, the the 64D specifically says that you get 102.5% of prior year expenditures. It's very
clear. All right. Bill is fighting this board now, saying no, that's not the way it should be. That's why we have that $4 million sitting there that nobody can do anything with, right? >> He also has access to other funds that he's not using, all right, that he has the ability to ask for, but he's not
playing nice in the sandbox. I want to stop right there and hard stop and just say this conversation needs to end. We still have there's still a legal battle going on. There's nothing we can do about that until it's it's finalized. So, I'm going to I'm going to ask that
we that we stop this conversation as far as as far as >> Yeah, I I don't want to stop it. So, >> as far as hiring practices and those that's beyond this board. >> Well, no, I'm not talking to people but now because they didn't follow
they go to court and spend more money to hire new people who are already employed, >> right? >> And what about the other one? The the plumber who's now assistant THING THAT WASN'T POSTED EITHER I HEAR. OKAY. AND NOW HE get right in the job. >> Again, that's not that's not our that's not our >> decision spending. It's taxpay money and
we're the advisor board. We approve expendences. Okay. >> And we did we approved that position that the we funded that position. How it gets approved and how it gets filled is up to the commission. It's not up to the building. Okay. >> So, we have it in the balance.
>> We have it in the budget that that position is funded. >> It is. It is funded. Yes, it That's the only question for the sport as far as how they how they build the position. That's not our concern. >> Maybe a letter to the state, >> right? That's not our concern. >> State secretary looking more because I
>> No, that's fine. Playing games. The commission playing games and they got corner right behind him doing the work. Okay. >> We're not we're not talking about this. >> We're stopping this conversation right here. >> In your opinion, you want to stop it. I >> I am the chair of this board and I'm saying that this conversation is over,
Mr. Plato. It's out of order. It is out of order for this board tonight. If you want to extend this the next meeting, you get on the agenda. >> You talk to the to the commissioner and you get on agenda. >> I want to be on agenda next month. That may be
>> not on our agenda. This is the point the points that you're bringing up, Mr. Pledo, are not for this board. >> If you want to talk about these things as part of the budget next year when we when we review the budget, that's your prerogative. But as of right now, these
positions are funded. All right? How they get filled is up to those gentlemen, not this board. So I'm going to stop I'm going to stop the conversation right here. >> And the commission of the plane game, I'm going to ask you to stop >> on the record. I said on the record, I want that to in the record that the commission of the playing game with two
appointments. I don't know who they are. They were on court that day. Give their names. I have no idea who they are. >> That is your opinion and that's on the record. I want the my opinion on the record. >> That's fine. So get the conversation is over. conversation is over >> and we'll bring it forward.
>> Um, all right. So, we're talking about the supplemental. We've had the explanation. Any qu any further questions on the supplemental budget summary as presented? >> I'm assuming that the uh Brookline
carpet and the restroom repairs are out of the uh so to speak Quincy fund because they're capital items. >> Correct. And they are also reimburseable, 100% reimburseable. Once they're completed, we send them an in I don't know where >> we uh we submit it to the state. The
state then reimburse us for that amount. So we're spending money that we're going to eventually get back. >> Um okay. So I think if we're all set with this, we are ready for motions on >> Oh, I'm sorry, Miss Dear. Quick. >> Yes, >> Bill, if you could just pull up the
slide deck. This is um normally I write observations at the back of the uh spreadsheet. I added a couple but there are some things I wanted to uh inform the finance committee and advisory board about very brief. Some of them we've already talked about. Uh but again in an effort to keep the advisory board
informed of big deal issues. Um so in summary this evening we're looking for 275,44370 for supplemental transfers and an additional 355,000 for capital project reallocations for the agricultural school. Briefly, the superintendent has
asked for um some projects that have been approved in his FY26 surplus that they were going to apply to its projects. They're looking to redefine those projects under one single project to uh couple it with a $100,000
earmark they got from the state and effectively taking three projects moving them into one uh to rehabilitate the green houses here at the agricultural. um the total cost of that project will be with the air mark 155,000. So those are the actions we're we're asking them
to take tonight to reallocate the the funds for the school as well as the supplemental transfer needs. The majority as I said of the transfers were COLA based um as Carl pointed out 26,800 would come from the CA the Quinsey Capital account and in total the 95,700
are our supplemental needs. Page two I've got two uh pages here. ones for the 26 fiscal year 26 updates in the next seven. The treasur's office has begun its operational review that you funded. Uh the anticipated completion date is January of 26. A report will be given to
the county treasur on the operations and recommendations for changes to him. The reg, as I mentioned, the register has initiated a third. >> Give me a second. We don't have a copy of that, do we? I don't copy. >> No, don't. Okay. What I have a copy that I just put together. Okay. Okay. I'll
give you a copy. >> No, that's okay. Just read. >> Um, the register is initiated in the third lawsuit against the county relative to the hiring process outlined in the 2024 handbook. Um, Walson Recreational Facility is closed 20 uh calendar year 25 with projected $184,000
surplus uh increase above our 24 revenue bench. FY26 spending to date uh is showing on target. We have small pockets of surplus developing mainly in the utility areas. Nothing I'm uh looking to modify at this point. We're going to keep an eye on things. Uh revenue is
looking favorable as I mentioned. Uh have receipts coming in a little bit above benchmark for our Quinsey District Court Rental. As we continue to pump money into that building on behalf of the Commonwealth, we get reimbursed. Uh and deeds money is slightly above benchmark by about $65,000. So the
overall favorability of our revenue compared to our bench when we started 26. We're we're trending above right now at about 275, which is not bad this early in the year. Now, uh, the last slide, Bill, uh, FY27. So, now we're looking a little ahead. Um, the county
is looking at a $400,000 increase our retirement liability costs. I mentioned this, the U finance committee. Um, this cost hits hard. We obviously don't have the ability to conduct an override or or seek revenue increases. We'll we'll have to probably uh pull from some reserves
to afford this increase. Um, after much discussion with Paul, Michael, and other members of the retirement board, I've reconciled the account and I understand where the increases are coming from. I offered some insight um during the finance committee discussion, but basically this increase will flatten out
a little bit, a little bit in 28, but then we have about three or four more years before we reach our full liability payment. And at that point, the comm the county will be, you know, as I mentioned in the I think it was in the spring or perhaps September, we'll be looking at about a3 million $3.5 million portion of
our budget that will drop because we will have reached our liability payment and we'll have a windfall around 2032. So, we've got to suck it up um and kind of keep our powder dry until then, but this increase for 27 is going to hit a little hard. Uh it'll be offset a little
bit by Kirars, which is the vendor the commissioners hired uh to put in a ground array solar system here at the agricultural school after many years. They've begun phase one, which is the North Street array. Uh it's expected to be online about a year from now and it'll generate about $100,000 a year in
new revenue. The second project um is right behind it, but is filed right now. the town of Walpole Planning Board voted unfavorably uh in this past I think it was o September October um putting KSARG back at court they won't be there long we
believe very strongly as Karge does and Walpole probably just threw down a bit of a speed bump because we do have a case law behind us eventually we're going to get permission to do this that phase will start immediately after that permit is given uh so until then the phase two will wait but when it does
we'll have a similar revenue windfall of $100,000 annually. I don't right now I'm not planning to book any of the 3B in our revenue balance for FY27, but I probably will put a portion of the uh 3A in my revenue blend for FY27.
Um, and I'm also along with many of you at the table going to be monitoring our group insurance cost projection for FY27. Uh, we're expecting to see a release of the percentage increase of the Bay Municipal Health Group in March of 2026. Uh before I um close, I just wanted to
introduce Gerard Foy. He's sitting at the back of the room. He's our new human resources director. He he replaces Michelle Abadini who moved on to the great town of Branktree. And um so welcome Gerard who's going to be working a lot with Mayflower as well. So thank you.
>> That concludes my presentation. Thank go heels. Sorry. Big high heel. Big high heels. Um okay. Um, can we have a report of finance committee on the supplemental? >> Mr. Chairman, the finance committee
committee met uh prior to this meeting. Uh, we went over all of the items in the second supplemental. Mr. Croner was kind enough to answer questions uh from the committee. Uh, at
this time we uh I guess I would take take a position where the finance committee is recommending passage of supplemental second supplemental in the amount of $248,633.70 which is exclusive of the 28,800
>> 26,8 >> 26,000 I'm sorry 800 uh for the out of the Quincy court which needs to be handled with a twoth3 vote. So we at this point we have approve is recommending approval of that and again
approval of the $46,800. And the third item that we have uh that we discussed is the 350 355,000 representing capital plan.
>> Okay. Thank you very much. So, I will um call for a motion on the first part of the second supplemental. >> I just want to take the chance. >> Oh, I'm sorry. >> Uh members of the advisory board, I Bill alerted me. We do have a brief
explanation as to your upcoming consideration of the vote on the agricultural school. The superintendent offered this detail. Um you can see the three projects that were approved in his FY26 uh budget that he's looking to reallocate $355,000
from. And as he indicates, that money plus the $100,000 a year mark from the state will go towards u the architectural work, greenhouse procurement, mechanical system tie-ins, removal of existing units, concrete work, and equipment purchases. So again, he's reallocating funds to a new
project, one project uh at the expense of three. That's the detail behind that request. That's the third item that uh chair uh Fitzpatrick just mentioned. Thank you. Thank you. >> All right. So, we'll start with the Thank you. So, we'll start with the
motion for the second supplemental um separate from Quincy uh the Quincy uh court monies which is the 248,63370. So, I'll take a motion. Anybody move the recommendation?
I move the recommendation. >> Okay. >> Second. >> Motion in a second. Any further discussion? >> Question. >> Yes, Mr. Pledo. >> Yeah. The in November I asked for uh public record request for the uh bills for the for the
attorney for the uh sol for the uh measure D. I got a letter back from from uh Bill Gon off the bills saying that it would cost me three grand more to get the documents. >> Okay, >> but just to be I am a client. We all get sued. So I am a client of the of the lawsuit.
>> So according to town council as a client as most lawyers know the client asked for itemized bill, she get an itemized bill. >> Okay. >> As a client, I didn't get it but I'm not pushing that right now because what Bill sent me was a step out out of the computer which which was good enough to start. But I'm saying when you're a
client as a lawyer know you you do client a bill you can give a detail bill which I asked for and they want to charge me $3,000. >> It's a public record public records request. >> Yes. >> I'm also a client uh ju just uh to your
point uh in the in the umbrella of budgeting uh I said that it would cost the county $3,000 redact >> because you're a member of the advisor board. should know your question was about >> uh financial >> so not he paid $3,000 >> no it would cost it would cost us and
you want while you are >> no I got to I got to stop you again this is not on the agenda this is out of order >> okay I'll bring up the end of the meeting that you don't see that >> okay so um we have a motion and a second um so we'll call a roll call vote for
the approval of the second supplemental in the amount of 248 63370 wait for Phil Okay. Make up time for being here late. >> All right. Good. Avon. >> Hi. >> Uh the uh Brooklyn
>> I >> Hton. >> Yes. >> Denim. >> Ifield. I >> Medway. I >> Bill I
>> did I skip somebody came in >> Franklin is >> okay so Franklin is an I >> yes >> Franklin yes Franklin yes >> uh Medway is an Iway festive holiday Medway
>> festive holiday >> technology Yes, Bedway is Yes. >> Milton. >> Yes. >> Need. >> Yes. >> Norwood. >> Yes. >> Plainville. >> Yes. >> Quinzy. >> Yes. >> Sharon.
>> Yes. >> And Westwood. >> I should be it. >> That's unanimous. >> Okay. So, I will take another motion now on the facilities maintenance request for
28,800. I'm sorry, 26,800. This requires a twothird vote. >> Move to approve. >> Got a motion. Second and a second. >> Okay. >> So, that was >> Well, this >> is the 26,800 for the um the facilities
management amount for Brooklyn District Court District Court. >> Thank you. >> Okay. So, we got a motion and a second. No further discussion. Bill, you let us know when you're ready. >> Have to rename this. >> Okay.
>> A hi. >> Yes. >> Yes. Okay. I >> Yes. >> Dam. >> Hi. >> Franklin. >> Yes. >> Benfield is an I. Michael. Hi. Yes. Medway. >> Yeah. Yes.
>> Milton. >> Yes. >> Need. >> Hi. >> Norwood. >> Yes. >> Planeville. >> Yes. >> Quenz. >> Yes. >> Sharon. >> Yes. >> And Westwood. >> I. >> Is that an I?
>> That's you. >> Okay. >> So, we passed a two-third vote on that. The third motion. Do you want to make the motion on this one? Is this >> I think we did, didn't we? >> No, this is the uh this is the >> third. Yeah. Yeah,
>> this is the third uh motion. Do you want to just make the motion? >> Yeah. Make a motion that uh is recommended by again by the finance committee to pass the 355,000 calls and we approve the 26 North County High
School capital projects. $105,000 from electric passenger van $150,000 from the cabinet building replacement, $100,000 from the campus lighting and authorized the $455,000
inclusive of $100,000 stadium mark for the purpose of renovation and replacement of green houses located in the plant science building. You >> have a motion. >> Second and a second. Further discussion. >> Yes, >> Mr. Cleo. these three items you you
bypass. What's going to happen? Those are they going to come back next year because we I mean you put them in they need to come back because we need them. I that's just a general question. >> I'll ask the superintendent to address that >> through the chair if I may. >> Yes. Uh those projects are indeed but um
the fact that we received unexpected earmark from the state uh by the work of Senator Rini and our board of trustees uh if we don't utilize that $100,000 air mark by June 30th 2026 we lose it and although $100,000 is is a significant
amount of money it will not do that it's here for by itself. So therefore we're just postponing those region. >> Okay. Thank you. Great. All right. So, we are ready for a vote and I just was informed Norfolk's just
joined the meeting. So, get one more vote. >> Oh, okay. Just let me update that please. >> Nor. >> Okay. All set. >> All set. Okay. Avon. Hi >> Brun. >> Hi >> Henon.
>> Yes. >> Denim. >> Yes. >> Franklin. >> Yes. >> Medfield is an I. Med. >> Yes. >> Milton. >> Yes. >> Need. >> Hi. >> Norfolk. >> Yes. >> Norwood. >> Yes. >> Planeville.
>> Yes. >> Quinsey. >> Yes. >> Sharon. >> Yes. >> Westwood. >> Westwood. Yes. >> Unanimous. >> Yes. >> Thank you. >> That's all right. Well, thank you everybody. >> You want to just make a note that on the
first one we voted on the I voted yes to vote no. You want the record to show that I vote at the time. I want to be in the record is probably no on. >> Don't take the vote. Just make it not that I saw >> you should vote again. >> You you keep that way. Just put note that I miss voted. I want to
>> No, we can't do that. It has to be on the record. You have a record over yesterday. You want us then we have to revote the first first motion. >> Hey, bear with me please because I need to make some changes. >> Which one are we revoting? >> The first motion second supplemental for
248 63370. >> Uh if we're revoting Norfolk, if you were not here for the first vote, I'll ask you to abstain. >> We'll do. Thank you. >> All right. You ready?
I'm not I'm not sure if this is proper. >> I don't I don't think it's proper to go back and revote. >> That's okay. I just want I just want to know for the record that I voted wrong which I voted you know I voted wrong on the >> We can enter that into the minutes. >> That's all I want. >> But I don't I'm not going to I don't
think it's worth you. >> Yeah. I don't think we required this wasn't a twothirds. This was a regular flat vote anyway. >> That's okay for me. I just want to make >> Yeah. I think once once we have the vote on record, we can't >> a member of the party can ask for reconsideration. Yes. Two3 vote for
reconsideration. >> However, board declines, he can be entered in on the record as saying he wanted to be noted by the Senate. That's all >> that's not the can't have another vote. The body has to
vote. >> Yeah. have to be recon about that. >> Okay. >> Um so we got that. So the next um next order of business is minutes. I'll take a motion on the executive session minutes of September 17th. >> Move to second.
These were minutes that we revised and >> uh and again on executive session minutes usually the chair holds the the minutes from being released until the chair so clears. >> Yes. So we will we will hold the executive session minutes
>> until what matter was resolved. >> Yeah. Until the matter was resolved. >> The third session. You got Okay. So we have a motion in a second. Any other further comments? >> All right. Roll call vote. Bill, you let us know. >> All right.
>> Okay. >> Avon. Hi. >> Brooklyn. >> Hi. Canon, yes. Denim, >> yes. >> Franklin, >> yes. >> Medfields, an >> yes. >> Milton, >> yes. >> Needam, >> yes.
>> Uh, Norvick, >> abstain. >> Norwood, >> Planeville, >> yes. >> Quinzy, >> yes. >> Sharon, >> yes. >> And Westwood, >> yes. Just let me add the abstensions.
So that was >> Sorry, Helen, you weren't here for the exact session meeting because it it's in the minutes. It says that no is present. >> Oh, just just want to make sure that we did miss something. >> So there was no stating. Okay, so we have 57.34.
Yes. and 4.91 stating. >> So the motion passes. Take a motion on the minutes of the open session for meeting of September 17th. >> Second motion and second. Any further discussion? We have some members.
I think the amendments to the regular board meeting. >> We're voting on the regular open session minutes of the advisory board. >> I need to listen better. So there are some amendments that help. >> Um yeah, if you wanted to just um just
state them >> there editorial correct. >> Excuse me. Who made the motion prior? >> I had made the motion I second. >> Thank you. >> Okay.
>> Correct. >> Uh there was a on the third page of the the board's meeting minutes. Uh the discussion was uh there was there was a discussion between Mr. PTO. Mr. Cronin last sentence there said Mr. Cronin stated he objects to Mr. Pledo's
opinion. I because it was a question that that Mr. Pledo asked. I suggested it's actually objected to Mr. Pledo's speculation as opposed to he didn't express an opinion. He just asked a question that maybe had an opinion behind it. Uh so we finished in the
finance committee meeting. We we took that uh there was a typo in the two paragraphs down the chairman Beck stated the advisory board. So I added the Y and on the fourth page uh it stated that the
uh Mr. Fitzpatrick stated the finance committee the way it read was the finance committee recommended unanimous approval and I changed it to the finance committee unanimously recommended approval. probably want to unanimously
recommend >> move to approve the minutes as amended. >> Oh, this is >> all right. So, >> we had a new recording secretary come on motion on the amended minutes. >> So, moved. >> Second. >> Second. Move
>> a second. Okay. Roll call vote. Bill, when you're ready, >> will I please >> Hey, >> ready? >> Yes. >> Avon. >> Hi. >> Brooklyn. >> Hi. >> Canon. >> Yes. >> Damn. >> Hi. >> Frank. >> Yes.
>> Benfield. I Medway. >> Yes. >> Milton. >> Yes. >> Need >> I >> Norfick. >> Abstain. Norwood >> abstain. >> Playville, yes. Quinsey, yes. Sharon, >> yes. >> Westwood, >> yes.
>> Thank you. >> All right. Motion passes. >> It passes. Yes. >> Thank you. >> Sorry, I jumped the gun there, Phil. >> No, that's >> um two two other things I just want to acknowledge. I want to acknowledge our new uh our new HR director who has a I know we already said it once but uh Jer
nice to have you with us and you have big big shoes, heels, whatever way you want to put it. Um so we we look forward to working with you. Um superintendent, do you want to talk about the gifts that are here? >> Yeah, thank you, Mr. Chairman. Uh as a small token of the thanks to the Aggie
uh we're offering you these small gifts this evening to take to uh to home you to take home and enjoy the holidays with very thankful that we advisory board and hopefully you grab some cookies and some hot chocolate as well. So this thing thank you
>> thank you very much. All right. >> Being that there's no other business to sorry >> let's go back but Bill gave me my my question so I don't need any more information bill okay but I over the
time let's start what Paul reservations that >> yes yes >> and I heard every meeting we're not paying the bill and every all these things I get from Bill Buck they said we paid Wall preservation
three grand, two grand, five grand. It's in the ledger. I thought we weren't paying for the preservation. It's all done by them. We're paying bills. Sometimes the bills come >> half less than half the gas. >> Who's them? >> It's one of preservation. >> No, when you said it's being paid by them. Who's them?
>> No. You told pay for by the solo people. I guess it was they hired Scott supposedly. That's I was told all the time. We're not paying for the solo talk. >> Okay. >> The attorneys. Uh, somebody's paying out attorney. >> Okay. >> Lopez, but I see bills that he has every
month for the wall preservation act for money. >> So, I'm just, >> Mr. Chairman, point of order. >> Yes. >> In keeping with the open meeting law, if the topic's not on the agenda, my suggestion is is that it be tabled to a future meeting where you put it on the agenda. >> I totally agree with you,
>> but it says it not. It says number item number seven, emergency traffic not presented by the chair. I just asked you a question. It's always a big are we are we paying the bill or not paying the bill? >> I can't answer that question because that wasn't on the agenda for me to look at. >> Commissioners, we will table this until
the next meeting. >> Commissioner can't answer that now. >> No, county director can't answer >> should they know what they're spending money on. So you know start putting me up. Okay. The county director knows money is being spent up. >> I'd like the body to know that the North County Commissioners meet every
Wednesday at 1:00 in Denim. They have a public comment period where we would welcome questions and thoughts and ideas and any other put this is a communication. Thank you. >> Well, you want to put me off again. All you're trying to do is put me off the side of me and I'm not going away. >> Well, put it on the agenda in the proper
way, Tom, and you'll >> be heard. Simple as that. >> But it's simple. >> I'll take what the payment says. >> Don't move. >> I got a motion to adjourn. Second motion in a second. Any further discussion? Seeing none, roll call. I'll vote the
board of journey. They'll let us know when it's ready to >> nowhere to go. So, I'm going to go. >> You just want to stay here all night. >> Cookies over there. >> I don't know. Jeremy, did do we have any that we can bring in here or be
there in a minute? >> Getting there. Done that. >> All right. We have >> Brooklyn. >> Hi. >> Canton. Yes. Denim. >> No. >> Franklin. >> Yes. >> Benfield. I Medway.
>> Oh. Yes. >> Milton. >> Yes. >> Need. >> Yes. >> Nor. >> Yes. >> Norwood. >> Yes. >> Planeville. >> Yes. >> Quinsey. >> Yes. >> Sharon. >> Yes. >> Westerwood. >> Yes. >> 58.7.
Yes. in a is 3.5. >> Okay, we are adjourned. Thank you all. Um I hope everybody has a wonderful holiday and a nice new year. Um our next meeting isn't until April as of right now. Yep. >> So, everybody, please enjoy your your
holidays and uh drive