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Good afternoon. I'd like to call the Wednesday, June 24th, 2026 meeting of the Norfolk County Commissioners to order. I'm now going to read the governor's proclamation on remote meetings. On March 28th, 2025,

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Governor Healey signed into law House Bill 62, an act relative to extending certain COVID-19 measures adopted during the state of emergency, which includes a 2-year extension of the option for public bodies to hold remote meetings by

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suspending certain provisions of the Mass. Open Meeting Law, Mass. Gen. Law Chapter 30A, Section 18 to 25. This action was effective immediately, extending the current option for remote meetings through June 30th, 2027.

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Thank you. Will all join me in saluting the flag? >> Pledge allegiance to the flag >> of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation >> [clears throat] >> under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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>> Thank you. Take the roll. Commissioner Stady. >> I'm here, sir. >> Commissioner Collins. >> Present. >> Commissioner Shea is present, but he's for some reason disorganized. I'm all good.

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>> I'm Gentlemen, I'm waiting >> No, I got everything. I just got it out of order here. I'm going to start I'm going to start by I took the roll. >> Yep. >> Call the roll. We did the roll call. We did. Number three, no executive session.

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Number four, minutes. >> Nope. >> No minutes. Do we have a motion? >> There's no minutes, 10. Keep right on going. >> There's no minutes to table. >> Excellent. >> Okay, we're not going to How's that? >> I fish. >> You did What Where's last week's minutes? >> Well, we didn't even put them on the agenda. >> Oh, okay. That's fine. That's fine.

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That's fine. >> [clears throat] >> Number five. Appointments. Cal Miner, outgoing superintendent of the Wolliston Recreation Facility. Cal, come on over and sit down. >> Thank you. >> I know you know where it is. >> Make a change.

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>> Have a seat. >> Hello Commissioner Stating. >> All right, Cal. >> I'm good, thank you. How How are you? >> just uh Cal just got to come up here and then I I had an emergency at home with a hot water >> We'll make that up. >> The water heater is in route, so that's why No

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worries. >> All right. >> Mhm. >> Scott, okay. >> I invited my um wife Leslie here today um to meet you all. And she put up my um weird uh work schedule for some of the um

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>> This is a happy occasion then. >> [laughter] >> Yeah, right. True. >> Yeah. Well, I I meant to tell you this last time you were here, Cal. You notice how everything's done. We did this in honor of your retirement.

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>> [laughter] >> It's beautiful. >> Don't feel bad if you don't see a picture on the wall because uh you know how these pictures get. >> Mhm. >> Cluttered, and after a while you say, "Well, where did all these pictures go?" So, [clears throat] we're going to try to keep it nice and pristine. You're all

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right, Cal. >> Okay, thank you. >> one in the golf course. >> Thank you. >> But, this is a happy occasion, and anytime we have a career employee leave uh the last one was John McGowan. Uh

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it John was it was a I don't think John wanted to go, but he wanted to go, and you know, you know, we we we we we I know John for a number of years. We're the same age, so I know how old he is and uh I know he is I know the career, long career as an

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iron worker before he even came here. >> Did he? >> And uh He's doing well. We hope to have him in, but he misses the good parts, but he doesn't miss the the the dreary part. I'm sure you don't either, but any anybody

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and we have a lot of non-department heads that stay here. 30 and 40 years. >> Mhm. >> We just promoted someone to number two man and uh 40 year >> 40 employee >> employee Janetti, Rick Janetti. >> Mhm. >> You probably bumped into him. You don't

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probably don't know his name. His father and grandfather worked here. >> Like 30 and 40 years each and he's in the year 28. >> How old is >> So, he's he's number two to the electrician who's now number one in the maintenance. We should check. >> Right. Check.

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>> So, there've been a lot of changes. I mean, you think when I've only been here 10 years, but Ann was here. >> Correct. >> Ann Brown was the tree. >> Mhm. >> Nancy was here. So, it takes You you will remember these people

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because >> I I do. I >> It all came together and, you know, What your specialty, which What are the license What are they called? >> You hold a Um >> I got here to the golf game, I guess. >> I'm I'm golf course superintendent on

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>> Right. >> I'm a >> Don't you have a license to You mix all that potions and >> Yes, you do. >> What is that called? >> A pesticide license. >> That's it. Okay. >> Yep. >> I guess there are a lot of people have them, but we're working with a new fellow who's going to be here today. Is

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he already here now? And uh he seems capable and >> He is. >> And we're all working and so does Sue, so >> Mhm. We're fortunate, but I never golfed. I went there for mostly parties, etc. and

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over the years, even before it was was even before '76 when Peter's father bought the golf course. I don't know whether I can curse or >> [laughter] >> But it seems to be a success. The last few years have been very successful.

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It's a cash cow, but it generates the cash, so it's pretty hard to give you a hard time, so we have to >> [laughter] >> we have to be left put to put the money back into this golf course and that we're committed to it and

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your first I don't know the first business thing you ever said to me, but you said the irrigation system really needs you know. And I >> It needs updating, yes. >> We'll have you there when it when it's in. I >> [laughter] >> I hope I'm alive.

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But congratulations and uh the everyday business, every you know, hiring all these young people, the processing of it, the kids come, the kids go, some stay, some go. I hear I hear some of them even had another call today, so it's a

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it's a tough business and managing all those people, let alone scheduling all this at all the golf course and it's not something that uh And I'm aware that we had other superintendents. Um

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even he even came back for a couple days a week. >> Oh, Jim Jim Fitzor, yes. >> He's the only other one that I really ever got to know because he came back. >> Mhm. >> And uh he was here a long time and did a good job, too, so I think there was one in between, but

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you were here as the manager of Turf Divinity. >> Yes, so you lived you lived through all those things. So, I think we're as as big as we ever ever were. The management of people that want to be

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members of the the club is always an issue, but you seem to straighten that out and I don't get anyone calling me in the last year trying to get in cuz it's maxed out and we're I can get used to it. >> Yep.

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>> I live in the city. I was hoping to see them all along us. >> Nope. >> I see the state cuz the mayor has poured all the money into it. >> Sure has. >> And they'll have money cuz they just call the mayor and say, "We're we're broke. Give us more money." >> [clears throat]

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>> I haven't even been up there to see the new golf the new >> The new club house up there? >> It's nice. It's very nice. Everyone says it's very nice. But again, I don't golf so I don't walk here. And uh John Gillis never golfed. We

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We weren't too good of guys. But O'Brien knew a little bit about the golf, so I'm sure you'd hear from him during the week, but I had to rely on you and it's been a good a good run for us. So really, congratulations. Enjoy your retirement.

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I hope you don't get bored. >> I don't think I will. >> I mean, you're ready to go and I would not have retired in the city of Quincy if I did not know that I was coming here cuz I'm a nervous nature. I still get up and do

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what I got to do and you know. >> Sure. >> Sometimes I have to do a couple of three jobs just to but when I got married, I had to give up a part-time job because it was a promise. And I found it to be This is 40 years ago and I did it. I

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kept my promise to Josephine. Who we all know and uh I miss it dearly for It's the greatest part-time job I ever had. I observed from cuz I worked in town, I started out in town with professional doctors, and I found

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out it's a worst part full-time job, but a great part-time job. It's what you see students doing it. And I felt that way about my little second job, so. But it taught me to Originally it was one of the The first guy married to Josephine, I was saying,

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"What am I going to do tonight?" You know, "We're going to go and hang out." I went to college nights, I was getting service at my I always had a night job, so. This switch from nights to days when I took care of that need to be doing something. Otherwise, I did that or

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throw me out. Cuz I loved my job as city clerk. I mean, there was some downsides. When you had to fire people, it was downside. When you had to take a liquor license away, it was a a downside. But I learned from the greatest guy that you were lucky to meet. I'm I'm not telling you that, but

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I mean, if you you I'll bet you agree. John I give a listen. He taught me everything. It was 19, I was hanging around with him, and you know, he taught me how to talk to people. Try to try to let them down gently or not, you know. >> Sure. >> And uh yeah, John was first class.

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He was old school. >> Mhm. >> Every [clears throat] way. You know, in the World War II, he was he was a combat marine, too. He went to school at night and everything. >> So, Carl, um are you going to stay local or you going to move down Cape? >> Um I'm just decided right now. We'll probably keep the house in Newton, and

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um visit the Cape. >> You should have What's been more time there. >> Both. Yes, we will. >> But I don't think you can give it up. >> [laughter] >> Well, you're in a great area. I love it down there, but but don't get We're starting to get there a little more. Okay, I'll stop, Peter.

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Richard, I know Richard's got a few words to say. >> Yeah, obviously, thank you, Mr. Chairman. Uh Carl, again, apologies for not being there, but I wanted to two things. One is on business side, you really the golf course has been terrific the last couple of years. Talk about finishing high and a high note. Like

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Larry Bird once said, you always finish on a high note. You don't want to finish on a low note. You're going out at a great time. Revenues are up. The course looks great. We've made some great improvements all of us together like the playground and the pickleball course and things like that. So the whole facility, you know, is looking terrific.

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My son got married a couple of weeks ago. I'm very proud of that, but what I want to point out to you is hopefully you're going to travel a little bit. His wedding took place at a place called Hominy Hot Springs, Virginia. If you've never been there, check it out. It was designed by Sammy Snead. I didn't

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realize it was a golf course. I should have known better, but it's an incredible incredible place. If you want to take your pretty wife on a little trip or something to get out of the Cape, go down there and it's just it's just a great place. Might cost a few dollars, but you're retired now, you can afford it. Have some fun, all right? But

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I wish you the best. It's been great working with you and a pleasure to work with you and I wish I wish you and your wife great happiness in your retirement. Thank you. >> Thank you, Commissioner. >> Thank you, Mr. Chair. Just briefly, I I've only had the pleasure to work with Carl for 6 years

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here now at the county. Um Carl started in the year 1994 with us, so 32 plus long years of county service. Just in the short time I was able to work with him, I think there's there's some great career highlights

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that he sort of led the golf course through. One being COVID, and I think we've put it so far in the rearview mirror now. Just as the season began and well, as you were thinking about how to open and now you know, there was lockdown and how

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do we how do we get people in? What what regulations? So Carl was able to navigate through all of that and ensure that people were not using golf carts at first. You developed a plan to have kids wiping down the carts and and things of that nature. And so you made sure that the the course still ran and ran very

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successfully that first a 2020 year of COVID and and obviously every year he comes before us and does a lot of due diligence about how the other public courses are doing, what their rates are, and we've always we've always

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we went to meet them or met them, so it's always been an affordable and accessible golf experience and you did things like when we decided we were going to build a playground up there, you wholeheartedly went went into that project, helped us increase the recreational offerings as

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as Commissioner said as well as pickleball courts which are sort of >> Something new. >> We're not a thing probably in 1994, but are now a very very big thing. So we we thank you. It's been a pleasure to work with this department head and we wish you all the best um as you go on to your

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next venture. Uh and because we don't want you leave empty-handed, the commissioners have uh do have this uh certificate of achievement for you recognizing your 32 plus years >> with us here at the county, so >> Congratulations. >> Thank you very much. Well, sure.

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We'll check the email. Um it's not Thank you very much. Thank you. >> Okay, well, I think we're going to further this next week or the week after, Carl. We'll see you again. But uh really sincerely um even today is a beautiful day, so >> It sure is.

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>> We're blessed to keep >> Thank you. Thank you. >> Thank you very much. >> Good luck. Bless you. >> Thank you, guys. >> Good luck. >> See you next week. Nice to see you. >> Okay, good luck. >> And we'll see you on the Cape at the >> Take care. >> Hello.

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>> Congratulations. >> Take care. >> I know I talked too much, but I mentioned John, but every time I had John was a founder, of course. I had to take him. Could I have a nap. >> We're going to go over this. >> It's yeah, so you can find we're going to fix the lawnmower.

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>> There you go. >> And then and then 9 6 hours later the phone would ring and it'd be like >> Okay, thank you. >> Thank you. Thanks. >> Great. Lucille. >> Yes, sir. >> Okay.

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Congratulations. 32 years is 32 years. Yeah, there's the invitation. Okay, number six. >> Public comment. >> Public comment. Each week we have public comment uh

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from uh Zoom customers as well as the public if they were to come in. So, if there's anyone out in uh Zoomland who's interested in public comment, now is the time to bring bring it up.

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And or We have nothing for me. >> We have nothing for you, Mr. >> public comment. Last call for public comment. Okay, thank you very much. Number Number eight, Richard. Personnel matters

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for consideration. Have you got your list? >> Any old business? >> I do indeed. >> Any old business? >> Mr. Chairman, give me 1 second. >> Sure. >> Answered out something here. >> Yeah. >> We'll take care of it. All right. So, personnel matters for consideration, we

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have several at the Norfolk County Agricultural High School. Uh a whole bunch of these are contingent appointments. So, I'm going to take this group first. Most of them are for student summer camp or student labor. So, I'll move the following for approval. Uh with your permission,

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Savannah Whiting, Alex Kim, Elena Nichols, Gabriel Morrow, What? Samantha Anderson, Maximilian Merlos, uh and Saros Daily. I move that those people be appointed as red for

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student labor student summer camp or garden at the rate stated with effective dates all being 7 6 26 so moved. >> Second. >> Motion made and seconded. All in favor? >> I. Yes. >> Roll call. >> Next >> Good. >> No roll call because we have a Okay.

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Commissioner Stady. >> I vote yes. >> Commissioner Collins. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Shay, votes yes. >> Yes. >> Next. >> Next group at the Aggie is notice of resignation. I'll take as a group. Resignation be approved for

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Matthew Keating, Lucas Churchy, and Kelly Quinlan. These are either as 183-day instructor or one Actually, Kelly is is the animal science four person. I move that we approve their resignations with effective date as of 6 13 26 for

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Kelly, 6 17 for the other two. So moved. >> Let's hear it. >> Second. >> Motion made and seconded. Roll call vote. Commissioner Stady. >> I vote yes. >> Commissioner Collins. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Shay votes yes. Motions passed.

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>> I get the last one at the Aggie is just a motion to approve the address change for Aaron Hayes as the animal science four person effective date 6 17 26 so moved. >> Second. >> Motion made and seconded. Commissioner Stady.

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>> Vote yes. >> Commissioner Collins. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Shay votes yes on name change. Three at the golf course. >> Yes, sir. We have three. I'll vote the following I think one at a time. First, we'll approval of the contingent employment of Christopher Madden as

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seasonal golf associate at the rate stated effective date 6 25 26 so moved. >> Second. Motion made and seconded. Roll call vote Commissioner Staley. >> I vote yes. >> Commissioner Collins.

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>> Yes. >> Commissioner Shave votes yes. Motion passed. Next. >> Next is to move I guess to just motion the notice of retirement as indicated earlier of Carl Minden Minor as superintendent and the effective date is

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7 6 26 for Carl. So moved. >> Second. Motion made and seconded. 32 years of service Commissioner Staley. >> Yes sir. I vote yes. >> Oh, Commissioner Collins. >> Yes.

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>> Commissioner Shave votes yes. Thank you. >> And the third one very important notice of interim filling of the vacancy with Todd Solomon as interim superintendent uh and that would be at the rate stated effective 7 6 26 so moved.

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>> Second. >> I think >> Motion seconded. Roll call vote Commissioner Staley. >> I vote yes. >> Commissioner Collins. >> Yes. >> And Commissioner Shave votes yes. We expect Todd here today, correct?

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>> That's right. >> You told me he was going to be. Okay, we'll get to Todd next week. >> It says he'll be here. >> Okay, June milestones. >> Yeah. >> You want to do those Richard or do you want me to do? >> It's that to do as you wish. It's just Michael Shagrue of maintenance is

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celebrating 20 years of service for the county. We I guess we all join in congratulating Michael and wish him well. >> Yeah, congratulations to Michael. I >> Right. >> I think we all got to know him most recently cuz he was assigned to this building for a while >> Yeah. >> after a couple of you know many years of

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service in other buildings and June and Bill got to know him and I had met him before, and Peter had met him before, so 20 years. Congratulations to Mike Schlegel. Thank you. Number nine, payroll and expense warrants. >> Peter, are you going to take the lead on

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this? >> them, Richard. Do you want me to read them? >> Peter has them, yeah. >> Please do. >> Yeah. >> Okay, I'll make a motion that we approve warrant 26-51, payroll of the county, in the amount of $151,908.04. So moved. 908 and 4 cents. So moved. >> Second. >> Motion made and seconded. Roll call

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vote. Commissioner Stady. >> I vote yes. >> Commissioner Collins. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Shay votes yes. And second item >> is 26-51, subsection 26, payroll of the school, in the amount of $457,047.46.

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So moved. >> Second. >> Motion made and seconded. Roll call vote. Commissioner Stady. >> I vote yes. >> Commissioner Collins. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Shay votes yes. It is a vote. >> The third item is uh 06-04-26,

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expense of the county, in the amount of $255,000. Wait, $255,972.23. So moved. >> Second. >> Motion made and seconded. Roll call vote. Commissioner Stady. >> I vote yes. >> Commissioner Collins. >> Yes.

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>> Commissioner Shay votes yes. There is a vote. Thank you. >> And the last item on the warrant list is 26-12 uh A, expense of the school, in the amount of $209,397.41. So moved. >> Second. >> Motion made and seconded.

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Payroll on uh excuse me. Payroll and expense warrant. Commissioner Stady. >> Yes, I vote yes. >> Commissioner Collins. Yes. Commissioner Shay votes yes. Thank you. That completes payroll expense warrants

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for today. Number 10. Update from the RSVP program. Lucile, please. Good afternoon. >> Good afternoon, Chairman Shay and commissioners. Thank you for your time. >> Lucile, what's going on, Lucile? >> What's cooking in RSVP?

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>> Oh, lots. Lots. So, I am I'm here primarily today to talk about the AmeriCorps federal grant. And I wanted to, because it's the end of the fiscal, start off by giving you a couple of highlights of how we ended up

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this year with the program. We have 238 active volunteers in the community. About 48 of those are rides for vets drivers. Uh 28 of those are wrapping up in the elementary schools. And had a had a great experience, uh

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according to um their reports to me. And we did uh 916 completed trips this year, uh tracking to be about 925 toward the end of this month.

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And uh we fielded 745 total requests uh for this year. And um can't say enough about our drivers in the community. They They do an unbelievable job. They They did 20,919 miles, which averages out to be about an

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hour and 45 minutes each trip, round trip, to take folks to their medical appointments and to do uh errands in the community. And of course, they're all veterans and seniors uh being taken on these rides. So, we're very pleased with

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how the program is running. And uh unfortunately, we uh received word from the AmeriCorps uh federal grant, AmeriCorps seniors, that we were not funded for the next 3-year round. Which, of course, is

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disappointing news, because we've had the grant for many years. However, um I want to talk a little bit about I think why that happened and also where we go from here, which I think is probably the most important thing.

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So, the universe closes one door, opens another. So, after careful review, I wanted to uh hand this out, which is and I'll I'll get one to you, Commissioner Stady, uh via email.

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This is a review of the RSVPs in Massachusetts uh over the last 5 years or so. So, I think there are three main reasons why uh we find ourselves in the situation we're in. And one of them has to do

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with the regional landscape. So, there were 13 RSVPs in Massachusetts um for many years. And over the last 5 years, since COVID, we've seen a a drop-off

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of RSVP programs for a variety of reasons. So, we're down to four active RSVPs in Massachusetts. And there are several that were not funded in the last couple of years

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by uh AmeriCorps Seniors and also several that chose not to reapply or disbanded completely. So, we we've been seeing a bit of a drop-off anyway uh in the state of Massachusetts for RSVP programs. Um

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as you know, this is a national competition, so we're competing with every other state in the union for this grant. And during the calls that we had over the last year, they were indicating that it was going to be very competitive and because of funding constraints, they

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were going to have to consolidate uh funding. So, that was a little bit ominous, but we kind of we applied we were invited to apply and we applied and they said that our application was viable and was evaluated

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like everyone else's and what they pointed out was that we could have done a little bit better job with the data correlating to outcomes. So, in the past when Robert and um

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and Chris were preparing applications for RSVP, they used proxy data. They used US Census data, AARP data that was already available. So, secondary data. And we did the same thing. And now

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they're looking for primary data that is very regionally focused to Norfolk County. >> [clears throat and cough] >> What I found interesting about this in the outcomes regionally was that the place the three RSVPs that were awarded this year were Boston, Lowell, and what

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we call Pioneer Valley, which encompasses Franklin, Hampden, and Hampshire counties, which are considered middle-to-low income counties. As you know, Norfolk County is considered higher income, affluent.

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And I think that was personally a factor in how things kind of shook out this year. And but that doesn't mean there aren't needs still. Um the needs are I think more hidden. So,

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we still have incredible demand for rides for vets, for for people to get to their medical appointments and helping people age in place is still a huge factor in in Norfolk County. So, while this funding decision is

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disappointing, I think it doesn't change the needs that we're seeing on the ground level when we're answering the phone every day. Um and we are committed to meeting those needs. And I want to thank uh, the commissioners and John Cronin,

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our director, and Bill, our assistant director, Bill Buckley, for the support of me and and the ability to transition from what we have had before to something new and hopefully exciting, which is based on

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real primary data. So, what we're hoping to do is sort of a listening tour and and more of a focus group with the towns to to create value uh, for each town in Norfolk County and ask them what they really need. And I

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hear things anecdotally, well, we need companions to take people on the buses to their appointments. We need We need all kinds of support um, for Meals on Wheels. Uh, unfortunately, South Shore Elder Services disbanded and now they've been

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taken over by Old Colony Elder Services. So, there's going to be some needs there. And uh, I'm looking forward to hopefully going out with some of you into the community and going on this listening tour in the next couple of months to really see what the needs are in Norfolk

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County specifically. Um, the good news is we can apply next year if we decide to, but we'll have that data in our pocket in terms of how we would apply. You know, many I think uh, what my observation has been in the year and a half or so that I've

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been here is that we've sort of just done whatever the grant told us to do. And while that was all great, there may be other needs that we might be missing and there might be gaps that we could fill as county.

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So, that's uh, what's happening and uh, I'm happy to field any questions from the commissioners uh, about the grant and how we plan to move forward. >> Through Mr. Chair, just to kind of add color to that, I think uh, it's a great opportunity for you as commissioners to

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really um, I think I articulated um much like in the the ancient Egyptian period when there was a pharaoh who fell out of favor and they >> [clears throat] >> chiseled his his name off of obelisk in

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a similar way by moving away this year from America or unchiseled in their name off the program. It is fully a commissioner's program. So you guys will you have the you have the funding currently through the the budget to move forward with our

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rides for veterans program. Really unchanged. Um as well as continue to do some of the the stuff we do with school volunteers. So in the this opportunity to reshape the the program also really unfetters us because there were so many things with

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what was sealed day-to-day which she didn't really necessarily mention that was reporting based and hopping on a zoom with Washington that may or may not have been really um relevant to the lives of the volunteers of people in Norfolk County. [clears throat] When you're in these national spaces so it's a great um

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opportunity to really make this program your own. Uh and really tailor it to the needs of the folks in Norfolk County. We do the positions are funded in next year's budget as well as the normal amount of office funding we have. We can look at the needs in the future in the

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fall as well but I think it's an exciting opportunity to keep doing what we're doing and maybe expand while working especially with the senior center directors and then understanding what additional needs are. So I know we've talked for a long time. We're in the rides for vets space. We're looking

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at returning to the veteran service space even though rides for vets is is part of that umbrella. So I think there's there's some exciting work to be done in the next few months. >> And it's not also thank you Bill to say that we couldn't apply for other grants >> as well.

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>> Mhm. Commissioner >> Commissioner Slater. If I could, I I want to jump in for a minute. So, great job with feel as always. You're doing a great job. Uh and good comments by Bill. I I just missed something. Something was cut out in the audio. Did you say we reapply? So, are we going back to

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AmeriCorps or is another agency? I missed that. You said we could reapply again next year. I thought AmeriCorps was done with us. Maybe I missed >> Uh they They're telling us we're not funded for the next 3-year cycle. >> Okay. >> Right now, but we if we decided to, we

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could apply next year, which would be the deadline would be March 30th of 2027. >> Okay. >> So, we could if we wanted to try again. But, I think it just depends on

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what we would like to do at that point. If we revamp the program and we don't quite meet the criteria, it may may may or may not make sense to reapply. >> Okay. That that That was clear. Okay. So, specifically in your tour of

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different agencies or whatever it might call there, I'd be very willing to accommodate you in a in and go with you if possible, schedule permitting, to to delve into it deeper and see what That's fine. So, I'm putting my my name there if you want, as always.

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>> Thank you. I I had you in mind when I said that. So, [laughter] absolutely, I'd love to have >> borrow, and you know, I I'm very gracious and I'm very honored representing the board on RSVP. Thanks. It's always my my pleasure to represent the board, but I'll work with you on that. Third thing,

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I think we all care about our veterans. Is there any way that we can maybe Maybe we're getting ahead of the horse here, but look at maybe in terms of funding for veteran services that we provide through a different agency at the federal level. Like, for example, speaking to Congressman Lynch or

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somebody, say, "Okay, we're going to emphasize more of the veteran approach. Not exclusively veterans, but we do this program right for vets. We want to maybe expand it." Is that something you might want to look at? It's just getting you know, you know, consider. >> Uh as to Bill's point, uh we're

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untethered now. We can >> Okay. >> um go to different sources and they won't compete with one another. Often times when you have a a large grant, sometimes the guidelines compete with other grant guidelines. So, I think it you know, it is it is an opportunity to

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look at other possibilities of things that we really want to do and you know, we want to keep all the balls in the air right now, but I think after the listening tour, we're going to maybe uncover some really interesting ideas around where we could apply and for for the specific reasons and

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needs of the county. >> All right. I won't take any more time, but I'll see you tomorrow. Thank you and I appreciate all your support you do for all of us in the county. So, thank you. >> Thank you. Thank you, Commissioner. >> Mr. Collins? >> I'm set. >> Okay.

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>> Okay. Well, thank you. We'll see you. We are committed to you and to the program but first and to you and we really appreciate and the upgraded changes that we have experienced since you've been the director and we're committed. >> Thank you. Like everything, it's

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>> funding. >> Right. >> And we'll uh do the very best we can. >> I appreciate that and thank you so much. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, Lucille. >> Thank you. Good morning. >> Thank you, Lucille. >> 11

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>> Number 11 is fiscal year end transfers. I have two paperwork is here. >> if you'd like me to >> Why don't you review them and then we'll discuss >> review them, so Commissioner Collins can make a motion and then that'll probably be the most efficient way to do this. As you know, this is just part of the great

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uh year end process. So, we have two, uh, transfer requests. First, from, uh, Chip Cushing in our facilities department, a, uh, request to move from miscellaneous building supply supplies, $38,601.93,

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and from hazardous materials, $145 [clears throat] to snow removal in the amount of 407 $4,789.84, education employees $12,333.65, roofing $21,478.44, and pest control for $445.

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>> I'll make that motion. >> I'll second it. >> Okay. Any questions? These are standard end-of-year transfers. Phil got them in. We have these two before us today. It would be helpful to get them in the

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in the works in a timely manner. Roll call vote. Commissioner Stady. >> I vote yes. >> Commissioner Collins. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Shavell votes yes. It is a vote. >> Through, Mr. Chairman. The second transfer request is from the IT

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department. There was a letter accompanying it in your packet, but that's expository. On a motion to take $25,000 from IT reg computer supplies, $5,000 from IT reg computer supplies, $4,000 from IT reg computer software,

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uh, and $6,000 from IT county computer supplies, and credit $25,000 to IT reg repair service of computer software, $5,000 to IT reg repair of

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computer hardware, $4,000 to IT reg repair service of computer software, and $6,000 to IT county repair of new computer hardware. >> I'll make that motion. >> I'll second that. >> Second transfer here and transfer

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is uh within the IT department. We're looking at these four transfers. Motion made and seconded. Roll call vote. Commissioner Stady. >> Oh, yes, sir. Yes. >> Commissioner Lecompt? >> Yes. >> Chairman Shay? Vote yes.

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It is a vote. Thank you. That completes them. Those two transfers, correct? >> Correct. >> Um this might be a good time to mention before the end of the meeting that this is the last week of the fiscal year. Um this meeting will

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not be >> What? >> It'll be recess, not adjourned. >> It won't be adjourned. It'll be it'll be a motion to continue and if needed and uh I'm going to call Mr. Shay to get this other paperwork done. And we won't

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be regularly meeting next Wednesday. >> We are. >> And we'll go from there. >> You are. >> And I'll remind us again at the huh? >> You are regularly meeting next Wednesday. >> We are? >> Yes. Yes. >> All right. >> We are not. >> So, Richard, uh next week

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next week you can you can join us remote. And uh and then the week after that >> We were taking Wednesday off? >> We have a couple of things we have to do. >> Yeah, so that the following week is the week that we're going to have officially off, okay, Richard? >> Okay, that was news to me. All right. >> Well, it's news to me, too, Richard. All

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right. >> [laughter] >> Things change, man. All right, that's fine. So, we are meeting next week, but I'll join you by Zoom, you know that. >> That that's fine. >> Yeah. All right. And then the following week we're not meeting. >> Correct. >> Okay, fine. >> Did you say the following week we're not meeting?

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>> Correct. >> So, wait, we don't have to We don't need to read We can just adjourn the meeting, right? So, he was saying When the meeting is over, we just adjourn it. >> My notes say

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that we were going to >> There's a couple things we must do. >> Move to continue, but >> Yes, you will still continue. You must There's a couple things that need your attention next week. So, >> Right. >> You can take the following week off. >> Yeah, and Richard, I'll I'll um I'll make sure that I'm available also.

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>> Okay. All right. But just you know, I plan to be, you know, whatever. All right. >> Yeah, you're going to be remote. That's fine. >> Okay, thank you. It's all good. >> Um item 12, Joe. Report from the procurement department.

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Uh and video openings contract awards. So, I got >> Here we go. >> Report from the procurement procurement department video openings. We have a contract today. >> Yes, sir. >> Maureen, what is it? >> We have a contract

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uh for Joe DeOrio once again, who is our former assistant treasurer and has been very helpful in your end procedures and feel that we need his assistance a bit longer. So, we're looking to issue a new contract through um 9/11/26 for his

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services at a reduced rate because there will probably be fewer questions as we go. >> I'll make that motion. >> Thank you. >> Check that. Now, hold on. Uh she just said through 9/11, but my notes say 9/30. What is it? >> 9/30. >> Um >> I thought you said

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>> it's 10 weeks. >> I think yeah, but I think we put it out there 10 weeks. >> I can amend that with your permission. Sure. Or shall I do that and come back in at the end? >> So, we're voting through 9/30 or through 9/11?

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>> I spoke to Robert, the new assistant, and he had said 10 / 11, which equals 10 weeks at $400 per week, and we have not to exceed $4,000. >> All right. When I When I amend my motion to 9 11 2026, is that okay?

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>> Sure. That sounds great. I'll second that amended motion. Mr. Chairman, I'll second that. >> Motion made and second. For contract on on-call support services in the Treasurer's office.

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Former deputy treasurer returns but he's retired. But we'll catch up for a couple of weeks, not to exceed $4,000. How's that sound? >> Motion made and seconded. Commissioner Stady.

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>> I vote yes. >> Commissioner Conley. >> Yes. >> And Chairman Polce yes. >> Oh, Richard, I forgot to ask you. Do you Do we Do we have your permission to use your stamp today? >> Permission is granted, sir. >> Maureen, anything else? >> That is all for this week.

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>> Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you, Maureen. >> Pleasure. >> Number 13, proclamation. >> Commemorating the semi- >> Semi-quincentennial. >> Thank you. >> And that's the word for the day. >> centennial anniversary of the United States independence. Let

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me read this proclamation. >> Go to read yours, come on. Your your call. >> Why don't you read that, Peter? Thank you. I can't see. >> I got it. All right. So, um This is a resolution commemorating the 250th anniversary, semi-quincentennial

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of the founding of the United States of America in Norfolk County. Whereas July [clears throat] 4th, 2026 marks the 250th 50th anniversary or semi-quincentennial of the adoption of the Declaration of Independence by the Second Continental Congress in Philadelphia in 1776

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signifying the founding of the United States of America and whereas the Declaration of Independence proclaimed timeless principles of profound significance to the national heritage of the United States including that all are created equal and endowed with certain inalienable rights

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including life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness and that governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed and whereas the founding of the United States initiated a journey towards forming a more perfect union marked by historic achievements, struggles and progress in realizing the

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nation's founding ideals for all its citizens and whereas the County of Norfolk in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts has played a significant role throughout the history of the United States being the site of the signing of the Suffolk Resolves in Milton

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uh siring four of our nation's presidents and contributing to the nation's development, culture, economy and defense through the efforts and sacrifices of its citizens and whereas the semi quincentennial offers a unique a unique opportunity for the people of Norfolk County to reflect on our shared

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history honor the diverse contributions of all Americans, celebrate our heritage of liberty and look forward to the future we strive to create for subsequent generations and whereas commemorative activities across Norfolk County will provide educational opportunities

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foster civic engagement, encourage community participation and strengthen appreciation for the history and foundational ideals upon which the nation call upon the county were built now therefore be it resolved that the Commissioners of Norfolk County do hereby recognize

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and commemorate the upcoming 250th anniversary of the founding of the United States of America on July 4th, 2026 and be it further resolved that we encourage all citizens, communities, educational institutions, civic organizations and businesses within Norfolk County to participate in

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commemorative events and event events and activities that reflect on our history, celebrate our achievements, and reaffirm our commitment to the ideals of liberty, equality, self-government, and freedom. >> Um, great job.

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>> So, is is that a second move? >> Yes. >> So, so moved, Gretchen. >> I second that. Great great job. Thank you, Peter. I'll second that. Yes. Wonderful. >> Motion made and seconded. We'll call vote. Commissioner Eaton.

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>> I vote yes. >> Commissioner Kohls. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Shaybull. She has some Thank you, Bill, for bringing that to our attention. >> This is all from the National League of Cities. >> It's pretty It's pretty historical of the right here

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where we sit in Dedham and so many other locations. Uh Wednesday and and all around the county. The first railroad was in Norfolk County. The first glass furnace in Norfolk County. Uh just there's so many many things that

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are first. And that's for the whole country. So, it's you know, we're fortunate to grow up where we're growing up and uh we're sitting right here in a very historic area. Thank you. >> Number 14. >> Number 14.

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Continue discussion of Registry of Deeds I B M Master Server issue. >> Commissioner Chairman, we have uh before you a uh letter. We had a very productive conversation here last week uh relative to this matter. And I think as a follow-up, uh we produced a letter

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for you to send to the Secretary of the Commonwealth uh in support of using the tech fund for the IBM power upgrade. So, what is required is just a simple um request to send. And I can put that on letterhead for you and send it out today.

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>> I I I saw the the letter, Richard. I liked it. Um I'd make a motion to send it along to the Secretary of State. >> Okay, now was that um >> Is it in your packet? >> Yeah, I know. I I didn't see that type of thing. But was that is that what we

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left uh our discussion at meeting last week or was that >> Yeah, I think >> Yeah, they were going to be supportive of this. Yes. >> Yes, so it's just a letter of support to the secretary. >> Okay, good. All right. Well, good. Let's get Let's get going on that. Great. >> You know how we're back and forth and you're going to Well, we're officially asking and and

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bringing the secretary uh up to speed on this. >> So, we'd like to get it out of the >> I'll make a motion. >> Yes, I do. >> I'll make a motion that we move forward with the the letter as written. >> We need to do it, too. That's important. So, that's important. Uh yes, I will second I'll second it. Yeah. >> I'll second that.

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>> What do you mean second it? >> Roll call vote. Commissioner Stady. >> I. >> Commissioner Nicole. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Shay. Vote I. >> That's all. >> Motion passes and will be sent out of here today or tomorrow morning.

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>> Thank you. >> Number 15, discussion of Commissioner's summer meetings calendar. >> Through you, Mr. Chair. Uh as we discussed last week, uh you had me dialogue with our friends downstairs. As we continue to do fiscal close, there are a couple of things that uh we need

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to do. They can be effectuated remotely, but we will be adjourning this uh meeting not adjourning, but recessing it to allow for the close of the fiscal year. We do have a number of minutes uh as well as some other matters that you will need to do on Wednesday

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next. So, you It is very achievable for you to take the following Wednesday off. Um and we did look at any Wednesday in August if you would like to take off as well. That's perfectly fine, but if we could do a quick Zoom meeting on

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Wednesday the 1st to do some year-end activity. That would be very helpful for us, but uh you don't have to come in. We can do it all remotely, but we promise to >> man. I mean >> Yeah, we promise to keep it under 30 minutes, we hope. >> Oh.

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>> Great. >> So, we're good for you, right? >> All right, we're going to >> Uh I'm just confused why it's not adjourned, but recessed, but I'm going to just go with the flow. >> So, you you you can't adjourn it because uh that would be adjourning for the year. >> Okay. >> Yeah, if we recess, at the next meeting

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we close out the um this this fis- this last fiscal year next next week. >> Oh, and next Wednesday, what, July 1st? Is that what it is? >> Yeah, we're into July next week, yeah. >> My calendar wasn't front of me. Okay, that makes sense. Okay, great. Okay. I'm all good. I'm all good.

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>> Okay, and then on the adoption of the summit pool, all in favor. >> Um actually >> Uh any motions? >> Well, I guess >> Yeah, I believe we do. We're going to stick to one of the two of you. I get I got misinformation. And I gave all sorts of >> Yeah. >> misinformation to Dr. Glass and Indian

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Jews. >> You can take next week off. And then before >> next next week we're here. >> Oh, so all right, well, we're the second week of the second week of July. And you this is an opportunity for the three of you to discuss if you'd like to take a month in August off. We could do them all right now.

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>> No, we can figure out August >> No, we can figure out August. >> Okay, yeah. >> Yeah. >> All right. >> All right. >> Okay. >> So, we don't need a second week of July. I I I believe that's the end of our business. >> Second week of July, I guess. >> Who do you want to chair as far as uh county director's report?

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>> We're very as we said, very sad to to lose Kyle. We begin the search for his replacement. Now, um as you saw, Maureen McCune, Alex Alec McCauley, and um and Phil are working diligently with our

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counterparts on sales to do the fiscal close. So, that's been really consuming a lot of our activity in the last few weeks. We're doing the reserve lists for department heads who do today. So people are working on those. So those That's really the the activity

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we have here in the commissioner's office. We will be decorating some of our buildings for the week of the 4th of July. Trick Cushing, I think I mentioned last week, is spearheading that, helping us. And with that, it's exciting to see the

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a lot of young students are being hired for the March Madness period at Aggie summer camps. They'll be going on for the month of the month of July. There's a lot of people are very excited for that activity. And with that, that's all I have. >> Any questions of the county director?

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>> The acting temporary county >> Acting temporary >> Acting temporary >> Let's get it right now. Let's get that >> [laughter] >> Um >> Okay, well, happy New Year. Happy 4th >> Happy fiscal New Year, yeah. >> Actually, we're meeting once more. >> Do we have any any emergency items?

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>> Yes, well, I have no emergency items. I was just looking for them. >> All right. So I'll make a motion that >> We have to meet again to go over >> we not adjourn, but we recess this meeting to allow it for the close of the fiscal year at the next meeting next week. >> All right, just just before, if I second it, very quickly, I I just wanted to

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give a a nice shout out to Quincy State Rep Bruce Ayers uh for coordinating a terrific event last night. >> Right. >> Happy to attend at the Elks. Um oh god, is that Tilly um Is that the right name of it? Tilly >> Tilly Hall of >> Tilly Well, whatever. It was it was at

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the Elks Lodge. And congratulations to all the recipients. They gave out over 20 scholarship awards. Uh Senator Keenan was there. Uh our clerk of the court uh Walter Timilty was there and did an excellent job speaking. Did a really fine job addressing the kids and the

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students and parents. And also, it was great to see his father, who was also there. So, nice job, a very nice affair. And anytime people give back to our young people, they always should be noted. So, congratulations to them and the Elks for a great job. >> For you, Mr. Chairman, one one other

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thing I I would be remiss if I didn't mention that uh we did talk about the firefighter of the um police department and then who lost their life recently. Uh this office did after >> decisions. Yeah. >> How long did he work there?

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>> Yep, with your help this office did make a $200 donation to the fundraising for his family today. So, I know you all contributed to that, so thank you as well. That's the only other >> We donated 200 because I didn't remember the club was doing that.

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Okay. Well, that's that was a terri- that was very tragic. >> Very tragic indeed. >> You know, a lot of people that knew knew Jim Quigley, yeah. He was a man about town. >> Mhm. So, with that uh there's no other business but to recess. >> Yeah, I I make the motion to recess, Richard. >> I'll second it.

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>> And I'll I'm for also I'm going to call vote. >> Richard, yes? >> I vote yes, yes. >> Commissioner Stady, Commissioner Collins. >> Yes. >> And Commissioner Shay, votes yes. This meeting is adjourned.

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Thank you.