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Are you okay? >> I'm trying to work it through. I'm working through it. Let us know if they're Want a water or something? >> No. No. >> Somebody hates you. Uh-huh. Hey, how are you?

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>> Good to see you. >> I'm glad to hear it. Yeah, it's been a minute. Everybody wants All right, we're about to start. Good, >> good afternoon everyone. The time is 6:40.

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Uh we are going to start our Tuesday, April 20 21st commission meeting. Madame clerk, can you please do the roll call? >> Commissioner Shernoff >> here. >> Commissioner Florimmon. >> Commissioner Jean. >> Commissioner Smith

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>> present. Comm Commissioner Sue >> here. >> Vice Mayor Smuckler >> present. >> Mayor Michael Joseph >> I am here. >> You have quorum sir. >> Next is the invocation. Um Commissioner Flormon.

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>> Moment of silence >> regarding um former vice. Yes. Yes. >> Good evening everyone and thank you Mr. mayor for um setting aside this moment um to recognize a public servant,

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a um scholar and an environmentalist, someone who dedicated her entire life to service and that is Vice Mayor Nancy Matea of Coral

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Springs. Um, you know, a couple of weeks ago, the entire nation um was hit hard and has since been mourning the loss of such a vibrant spirit

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um in the person of Nancy Mate. She really was a public servant. Truly was a public servant. And I think you know um it's very rare that you meet someone who is able to resonate with so many people and

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be personable with so many people and have an influence on so many and Nancy was that person. And so um we honor her today. We honor her legacy and I think that we all should emulate her

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example in what we do as public servants and everyone as well in their um role as a community leader and someone who is helping organize and lead a community. We should all emulate what Nancy stood for. And I I that those are my thoughts.

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Um I know that more of my colleagues may have something to say. So, it's truly a loss. Um, she was definitely what we call and look up to as being a public servant and she loved what she did and it's so sorry for all of us and her constituents.

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>> I wanted to take this time to extend deepest condolences to her family and it was just just a traumatic loss for our community as a whole and her example, her legacy will live on. I just want to say that may her children

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always remember her with all those fond memories they have and be grateful that she was their mother. And may I say to you that if you see anything, hear anything, say something. We in North

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Miami Beach have a violence every single year, a walk against violence. And the devastation is not just the person that's gone and the person that did it. It's to the whole family. And in this case, it's to the community and beyond.

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She was a service person every step of the way. And it's a huge loss. May be she may she be sitting on God's lap. >> Thank you. Um I had the opportunity to meet her back in

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2022. when Commissioner Flormont introduced me to her at an emo class in Cocoa Beach. >> Yes. >> And as she was coming our way

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and you know I forget many things and for some reason this I have never forgotten. You said to me, "Watch her. She's an upandcomer." and she was definitely that. However, I do want to give my sincere

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sympathies to her parents who have not just lost one child but have lost two children in in three months. No parent no parent should lose one much less two. So my deepest sympathies go to her

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parents. May she rest in peace. And all I can say and sometimes people don't like to hear that but at least the the siblings are together in heaven. >> Thank you. I'd like to extend my con my deepest and

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sincerest condolences to her family and um I know my friends have been wanting to introduce me to her since um I got elected and they said that what a what a great example she is for being a being a public servant and being always standing

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and doing what's right for the residents and being nonpartisan about her thinking and what's right for the residents. that is something that I also admire and um even though I didn't get a chance to really meet her but um I've heard so many great things and like Commissioner

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Fleman said, yes, I think we could use her as a good example to bring us all together. Thank you very much. >> And and Mr. um if I may, you know, her family really hearkened on the importance of um

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how she lived. And I think that, you know, in in our honoring her, there's a lot of things that she stood for. Um she stood for uh equality, she stood for diversity, um she was a a fighter for the environment. She she's she she was a

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scientist. So she fought for the environment to make sure that our ecosystem was one that was cared for. And so, you know, as elected officials and as I said, as public servants, um

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it's it's just super important that we, you know, lead with with that in mind. And um in in everything that we do that we make sure that we put the people first and that's something that uh you know, I will dedicate myself to um to to definitely uh lead as as she would lead

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and to take that as an example. >> And Mr. Mayor, before you take the mic to say what you'd like to say, I didn't have the privilege of knowing her personally, which is my loss, but her children were the children of the community, finding that she had I

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thought she had stepchildren, but she did not. She had all the children of the community and beyond. And I want to tell you what you see on television and the dedication she's had and the thousands of people that show up, you don't have to say a word about her. what you see

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speaks volumes. So, thank you again. Um uh Nancy was a uh the best of us. You know, we um going back almost 10 years. I've been set as you know, as many of you know, um um I'm I'm very

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private when it comes to people I care for. And I have not been as open as my as my fellow colleague has knows me quite well. Um I pray for her family. I I pray for the friends that knew her

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well and loved her. I pray that she remains to be a beacon for this community for generations to come. And to the people that are have suffered or have been impacted by domestic violence,

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don't suffer in silence. Please speak up and you know please speak up. That being said uh next action item on the agenda is pledge of allegiance. Thank you.

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>> Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the for one nation indivisibley and justice for all. Madame clerk, uh any requests,

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withdrawals, deferments, or additions? >> Mr. Mayor, I do not have any request. >> None. Um, next is present presentations. >> No presentations. >> Let's go to public comment. >> Oh, if you can open up for public comment.

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>> Good evening everyone. The mayor and commissions of the city of North Miami Beach has opened the meeting for public comment. At this time, there is a 3minut time limit for each speaker. Speaker, when you're called to the podium, please state your name for the record. The mayor and commissioner of the city of North Miami Beach recognizes the

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importance of civility. The city of North Miami Beach requests that all in attendance to exercise civility towards each other. And our first sign speaker is Star Breedlove. Good evening. My name is Star Bre.

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>> I want to hit something. >> Close. >> How about now? >> Okay. My name is Star Breedlove, a members a member of the voter council in North Miami Beach. We want to thank our mayor and all of our elected officials,

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our city manager for all of your support and making Heritage Day happen for us and keeping us close to your heart as I hope and as well as in the budget. So, we want to thank all of you guys for all of your support, continued support.

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Special >> special thanks to Miss Andre Bernard for everything that she does. Had a lovely meeting with her today. Thank you. Anyone else? We're good. >> That's it. >> That's it. >> Thank you,

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>> Mr. Mayor. I'd like a personal privilege here um from the Washington Park Heritage. Sorry I couldn't make it this year. This is my first day back from surgery. So I really, you know, I'm always there for you. So there. Thank you. >> You were there. >> Glad you had a great one.

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>> You were there. >> Yeah, you were there in spirit. >> We felt you. >> Thank you. >> Next sign speaker is Pat Sant Santangelo. >> Sorry about the misprononunciation. >> Sorry. name and address.

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>> Hi, how are you? Good evening. My name is Paisel. My address is 1463 Northeast um 182nd Street. I'm a resident here. I'm here trying to get the Warriors um

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program of soccer to our community. We travel all the way to North Miami so my son can play soccer and it'll be great because I've tried all the soccer teams in this area and weekly is about give or take $150 and for a single mom is really

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hard. Thank you. >> Okay, next next speaker. >> Yes. Um good evening everyone. My name is Katina. Oh, you hear me now? Okay. Um good evening everyone. My name is

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Catalina Damen. Um, I am a part of uh Oh, okay. I am a part of uh the little 80 FC. Little 80 FC. And I wanted to thank you uh for

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giving the Little ADFC FC soccer team the opportunity to be free, to be accessible for every kind of children, every type of children. Um, as a mother of one,

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that's my son and that's my nephew. Um, I have been um in a soccer atmosphere, soccer team for since my son is three and a half, four, today is 12 and I always paid every month like 450, 500.

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Uh, in 2023 I lost my husband. So since our finance has been difficult and we moved in North Miami and moving in North Miami, we went to a school I register my children to a school, a nice school on

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GFK JFK sorry and JFK uh saw the potential of my son and uh they put him in a soccer however they sent us to little ADFC and uh I was very shocked uh to see that

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um a team like little letter ADFC provide um the opportunity to every kids any any kids in Miami the possibility to play in a team because

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it's not everyone that have the chance that have the opportunity the grace the parents you know are involved for them to play in team and I met million moms and it was hard for them

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hard for a single parents that are single in different way um to have their children to play soccer. You may not see the impact now, but is when them them children go back home. It's a huge

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impact to wake up every day to be happy, to go to a team, to have the possibility to go to a team, even to walk there and to play. And it's not every children that has this opportunity. And have been around children that didn't had moms

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like me, moms like other mom that will pay a ton of money every month and every six, seven months to travel overseas. Uh I'm from France. In my country, the the

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soccer is free and uh they provide opportunity for children to go to a formation to play for free. And when I saw that here, I found it amazing. The first time I went to Little Ed,

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uh I saw the children the way they were. It really was so beautiful and I am in for a long time and I didn't see this kind of joy even though I am a mom. I'm invested in my children, invested in everything uh from A to Z. And I didn't

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see that that joy, that love, that patient. The way the children play there is very different. It's beautiful. They play like is the last day of living and is so

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beautiful and the first time I bring my my children I cry. I was like, "My god, that's so beautiful." And when GFK sent me there and I saw you his team and I tell them what you're doing is it's amazing. It's beautiful. And I thank you

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all of you for giving >> to all these kids the beautiful opportunity to go and to have fun to play what they love to do. I mean to play what they love to play and for them to have the opportunity to play soccer

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and maybe be pro, you know, I believe they can be pro because the way they play is just amazing. So thank you for everything and I'm grateful for for giving the opportunity for my children to play and because my finances has not

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been great right now because now I'm student really student full student and it's an opportunity for me as well. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Next speaker >> Paola Sido and then Karen Herald.

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Um, my name is Pat Santangelo, co-founder of Little Haiti FC. 12 years ago, we started. It's the only free youth soccer program in the state of Florida, one of the few in the United States. Recognized internationally as one of the best youth soccer programs in

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the country. um recognized by the Interamerican uh Interamerican Bank as one of the best anti-poverty programs, Interamerican Development Bank, which funds anti-poverty programs in South America and Caribbean. We're the only program they fund in North

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America because they said we're one of the best anti-poverty programs they've seen. It's the best gang alternative, stay in school, um you name it, to keep the kids out of trouble. They're 12 years. Every kid graduated high school in 12 years. We start at 5 years old to

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young adults. 80% of the kids went to college. We do social services, wraparound services, after school programs. It's more than just a soccer program. It's a huge opportunity for the

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children to be able to assimulate in their schools and in their community. Thank you very much. Thank Thank you. Next. Next speaker. >> Next speaker is Paola Sceto.

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>> Okay. Aaron Harold. >> Okay. Hi, my name is Karen Herold and hello mayor, commissioner, city manager, deputy city manager, city attorney, and city clerk. There are a couple of concerns that I would like to address. One, the petition being

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circulated in our communities of which the city manager sent out a letter saying it's not from the city of North Miami Beach. Thank you for that. Um, and I want to talk about in the folly it represents. Comparing the size and population of cities around us will explain why I say that. So, according to

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our website, the city of North Miami Beach is 5.2 square miles with a population of 41,253. Miami Gardens is 19 square miles, population 111,640,

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and they're divided into specific residential districts. City of Hyia 21.6 to 22.8 square miles. Population 221,000 to 235,000 population. And the city council is

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elected by all voters citywide. Remember, we're only 5.2 square miles with a population of almost 42,000 according to our website. All the districtricting would do is divide us and put one district against another. the commissioner for their

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district would be looking out only for that district and most likely try to get as much from the one budget we have for their district. Now imagine five other commissioners doing the same thing, divide and conquer. What would that new what were our new model be instead of where people care which I think means

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about each other. Okay. And I'm going to skip ahead to um I'd like to address what happened at the last city commission meeting when once again our commission chamber was disrespected with a lawyer basically trying to trying a case by finding fault

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with a resolution for censorship which our attorney prepared. So that didn't shed such a good light on him versus addressing the potential misdoings of the mayor. The only focus was on getting the video and any paperwork from the interviewers, the people that were

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interviewed. Nothing was addressed regarding the concern of possibly bypassing procurement to to um giving an expensive contract for the city we already have plus the peak card expense for the ex upgrade for the travel. Um, I

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felt like between the mayor's lawyer and the mayor was set up to be a court of law and this case argued with yelling and lecturing. No substance regarding the abovementioned items. Everything was met with the mayor's response. I didn't do it. When the mayor introduced his

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lawyer, he said it was because he was advised not to speak. So why did he speak throughout the whole discussion after his lawyer spoke? The mayor's lawyer started putting a negative light on our employees. He just did what lawyers do. Our commission chamber and our commissioners deserve all respect. They were not up there to try a case.

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They are not lawyers. Only one that's a lawyer is our mayor. When the mayor's attorney said to a reporter, "We won." To that, I say, "No, you didn't win. Our chambers is not a court of law. You presented the mayor's defense with yelling, use what sounded like scare

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tactics, intimidation. You lost my respect for your display. And I I think for the civility you need to add anybody who speaks because it says residents and that the civility pledge it should be anybody who speaks in the podium. >> Next speaker >> I don't think that microphone is working

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well. >> It's not >> you can't hear it's I don't hear. Can we try that microphone? >> All right. Next speaker Joas Castro and then Kley Join.

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Hi everyone. Uh I'm Joan Castro, also known as um Coach JP. I'm a physical educator. I run a soccer school in the city of North Miami Beach. Um since 2023

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22, I established the school here in the city. In the last two years, we have a program, a very affordable program uh running in Alen Park and Oleta Park. We've been going from one park to the

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other because uh six months of the season the football team uses Allen Park and we've been uh growing. we have here in this program around 50 uh kids.

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70 80% of the kids are from the city. Um and it costs way less than what was mentioned today. We are recreational program. We we are not a travel team although we also play leagues. We play Sunny Io Beach League and we also play a

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small league that I partner with two other teams including um um Little Haiti. We played against them in in leagues before. So I would just to uh mention that so the

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city now is aware that we have a program very affordable and we have kids that eventually when the parents cannot afford it we wave uh the fee and I think I have the feeling that the city doesn't

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know about that. Okay. Um the the school is called Miami School of Soccer. It was established in 2019. We have two different locations. One here in the city and another one uh that we run in

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Oakrove Park with more than 150 kids. Um so I'm available for more information. Don't hesitate to contact me. Thanks for your time. >> I can hear him much better there. Fellas, you can hear him better too

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there now. Okay. Good evening, mayor and commissioners, uh, city manager, staff. My name is Kyle J and I reside in your leader. On April 11, 2026,

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the city of North Miami Beach hosted a historic welcome reception and press conference at the Litman Theater in honor of professional footballer Dukens Nazone. The event was a resounding success

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evidenced by the attendance of hundreds of community members and significant international media coverage. Press representatives travel from across the globe including France, Italy, Haiti, Canada, and Jamaica, bringing

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unprecedented global attention to our city. I would like to extend a sincere thank you to the mayor and city commissioners for their support of this initiative. Special recognition is due to city manager Darwin Williams. It was his

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specific vision and leadership that brought this event to fruition in North Miami Beach. By recognizing athletes of Nazon caliber, the city manager has strengthened our cultural ties and highlighted our city's place on the

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international stage. As the FIFA World Cup approaches, the inclusion and celebration of players from the Haitian national team is deeply meaningful. As a native of Haiti, I am personally grateful for the city's commitment to

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inclusion. The event did more than just honor an athlete. It unified the local Haitian-American diaspora, showcased North Miami Beach as a hub for international sports culture, fostered community pride ahead of the world most

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prestigious prestigious football competition. Thank you again for your dedication to making North Miami Beach a vibrant worldclass city. I look forward to seeing the continue positive ripple effects of this successful reception

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and also today we had the honor at Taylor Park to do a beautiful event for friend Raika. I thank each and single one of you that showed up uh with the beautifification committee to make this

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happen. I would like to thank Sam Bernard who has worked tirelessly to make this happen. Um I would like to thank each and single person that had something to do with this parks and recreation. Right now if you go to

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Taylor Park you are able to sit and enjoy the view. So when you all stress after this, just go to Taylor Park and sit down and have a wonderful evening. >> I think it's sun up to sun down. >> Oh, come on. We'll make a Come on. Go

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and enjoy it. >> Could we end the meeting in the next 20 minutes? >> May next speaker. >> Um Bruce Lambertto and then Mara Hawk. Good

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evening, mayor and counsel, city manager, city attorney. Um, this this man that spoke just before me, >> state your name, please. >> Uh, Bruce Lamberto, Eastern Shores, U has had a soccer program for going on

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five years now. He started out over at Mishan Field and then Bokeh soccer came in there. He got kicked out. Um he found a field over at um Oak Grove Park, the the park over there. So he's uh built his program over there. He had enough

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interest from residents from North Miami Beach to do a second program at at uh Allen Park. He pays rent to our recreation department to to do this. Uh and by the way, I've heard all these high prices from the residents here or

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the people here about this $150 and 200. He charges $50 $50 a month for every Saturday program on one one hour, hour and 10 minute, hour and 15 minute uh program. So you get four or five of these classes every month for $50. And

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I've personally seen him have have sign up people and some of these single moms uh came up and said to him, you know, I'm going to have to pull my kid out because I don't really have the money to pay you this month. He says, don't worry about it. I'll cover you. So he's doing this. He's he's got probably a dozen

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kids or more that he's paying the freight for them. He's got to pay his coaches. He has about seven or eight coaches because these kids are all divided up into age groups. So, he's doing a fantastic job. Any if you want to see this, go there Saturday over at uh at Oakrove Park and you'll see the

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the program there. The kids all have uniforms just like these kids do over here. And they're all inclusive. there there's there's a broad cross-section of our city playing soccer over there and uh I really think that this issue here

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it shouldn't he never knew about it I never knew about it nobody this this is like the trolley all over again you know we we no bid nobody else gets to have the opportunity to to participate in this my suggestion is you play Solomon cut the cut the this uh this grant down

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the middle and award half of it to each of the groups here you're going to have you you have plenty. He's has almost 200 kids in his in his between the two programs. I don't know how many are here, but they they deserve the the kids

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my kid who's in the program deserves that help from the city just as much as anybody else. And uh and I'm hoping that you guys will at least uh consider the residents here like myself when you award this. And it should be. Again, if you split it down the middle, who can

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argue with that, right? You're going to equally take care of people. And Mr. City attorney, I'm hoping that uh Hello. Hello. Uh I'm hoping that you'll look at this contract and say, "Yeah, maybe you got a point there and advise the commissioners accordingly." Thank you

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very much. >> Thank you. Next speaker. >> Mara Hawk. And then Terrence. the other >> microphone. >> Oh, the this one is working. >> No, we don't. >> Hello.

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>> We don't hear it well, though. >> Good evening, distinguished uh servants of North Miami Beach. My name is Maria Hawk or Mara Hawk. I am resident of this city for a long time now. I want to

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speak clearly tonight about the pro the proposed sectic to sewer conversion because for many of us this is no progress is a bo burden we are being asked to carry without justification.

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Let's start with the most immediate reality cost. Right now, many residents rely on sectic system that are affordable and already paid for. This proposal will force

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homeowners to take on massive hookup cost on top of mostly monthly sewers bills that we pay today. Okay, sorry. more um more higher cost

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for what we are paying will be if this is a sect. >> Good evening, North Miami Beach. The >> go on. >> Okay, this this proposal give me more time.

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This proposer um let me see what it was. I couldn't do it three times high. Okay. This propostor um will be a is a financial chuck for

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working families, retirees and longtime resident. This is simple. No, not sustainable. And let's be honest about what's driving this. We are being told this is about infra infra infraure. But

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the reality many o of of us is different. Expanding sewers access make it easier for developers to build large uh denser projects, projects that will

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not be possible with septic system in place. So while residents are being asked to pay tens of thousands of dollars um developers are the one who stand to benefit the most that is not

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fair is and it is not right. There's also the issue of getting of the gentrification. When sewer system are in place, um land becomes more attractive for high density development. That means rising

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property values, raising taxes in and eventually displacement of the very resident who build this community. And there is accountability. Residents deserve to know who truly

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benefit benefits from this push because from where we stand it feels like certain boys on the days are pushing for the development interest over the needs of the community. Let me be clear this

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is not about opposing all change. It's about opposing unfair change. This about saying that residents should not be forced into a system that is significantly more expensive that than

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open door to uh underdevelopment and that risk pushing people out of their own neighborhood because our community should not have to pay the price so that other can profit.

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>> Thank you. >> Thank you. Next speaker. Good evening, Mayor Joseph, Vice Mayor Smuckler, and all the commissioners. >> Our condolences and prayers to you. >> Thank you. My name is Terrence Camuli. I'm a 35- year resident of the city of

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North Miami Beach, the last 33 years with my late wife here in Sunray West. First, I'd like to thank you, the mayor, and the commission for the uh recognition of the time I've spent here, especially with the proclamation that

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you guys provided with her funeral last Friday. Thank you again. I also like to thank the city for recognizing Fran Raa for her long-term um volunteerism to the city with the

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dedication today of the u the trees over at the park. Unfortunately, I was not able to make that because of uh prior commitments. One thing I'd like to bring up, um, speaking to many residents in the Sunray West area, especially those who live

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along Edna Mafett Boulevard here at 171st Street, we have people that like to use the sidewalks to walk their dogs, just take leisurely walks, especially in the morning time before it gets really hot,

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especially in the evening time before it gets really dark. However, there is a large number of people that are riding their electric bikes at high speeds, electric scooters

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at high speeds along the sidewalks. I've almost gotten hit three or four times just by them speeding by instead of them using the actual bike lanes that are there. I know the city of Miami Beach, the city of Keepiscane

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have created ordinances that prevent the use of these on sidewalks and or totally use of these vehicles in the city. It's something that I think we need to look at because it is an unsafe situation and it's something that I will

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ask the city commission and the mayor to look into doing over the next year of coming up with an ordinance to prevent this from happening and to prevent an injury or worse a death occurring because these residents are using the

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sidewalks uh very dangerously. Finally, uh, one other thing that's being brought up to me, um, in the area is the construction of the north of the former Nova Southeastern site. Uh, there are lots of trucks that are coming up

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17th Avenue that are actually crossing over into the actual Sunray West neighborhood versus the city central area. And they are full of trucks that are full of debris. >> 15 seconds. and something that needs to be done because I thought they were

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supposed to only be using 167th Street to 19th Avenue. A lot of complaints in the area. Thank you for your time and have a great night. >> Um if I may at TC um we actually did not have it ready for today's meeting, but I

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already um have legislation that I'm sponsoring for the scooters and it will be on the agenda next month. >> Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> Thank you. Next speaker. >> That was the last signed speaker. If anyone else

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>> go to the other microphone, please. >> The other microphone, please. Mr. Kazan, >> you hear me? All right. >> All right. Don't complain if we don't. >> That's okay. Nothing new. Makazan,

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North Miami Beach resident. I have to wear the shades mr city manager because the last time I was here the sun was shining in my eyes and again I have to wear it and I'm not a FBI. So, okay. So, I went into Home Depot the

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other day and I asked one of the assistants there in the electrical department to help me. He says, "He's not it from this section. You have to ask somebody who's from this section." And today why I mentioned that I came

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home and something was hanging on my doororknob. It says they're against districtricting. They're for districtricting. Meaning each and every one of you would be representing a district. So if I call I I know I have access to like five of

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you. I can pick up my phone right now and we can talk anytime. When you're with districting, you call, let's say I'm not in your neighborhood, Commissioner Chernoff, you

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would say, "Oh, you have to call your representative." Only one representative you get in. And I've been here for more than 20 years and I've complained almost about everything, but never have I complained that any of you've been

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refusing to take my calls. Um even the mayor when we were in talking terms he used to take it anytime but however um septic septic to sewer that also is a problem. Uh I know the

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mayor is pushing that heavily for his um developer friends claiming that Florida is sinking and we need to um get the septic sewer. Well, I'll tell you, if Florida is sinking, we all would have to move out from here. No septic to sewer

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is going to save you. Subject to sewer is just a developer's dream in North Miami Beach. And I'm not talking about other areas which I'm not going to mention because the developers are not attracted to there. We have the ocean. We have Grenels Park. We have a

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lot of nice sceneries around here where the developers would love for the taxpayers to foot that that sewer bill, put down the sewers and um the sewer lines and then they move in and as what

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the farm the previous speaker said gentrification is going to set in. uh we're not living at the side of a river or you know like by Highland Village or Eastern Shores where it was necessary for them to have it. A lot of

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us not living in the commercial area. So this gimmick that you have that this place is flooding and you had the pharmacy city manager saying that when the rain falls the sewer is going to be flowing down the the streets. It it's

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it's a gimmick >> and I have him on video saying that. Thank you very much for having me. Did you hear everything, Commissioner? >> Thank you. >> Any more any more speakers? >> No more speakers, Mr. Mayor.

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>> Okay. >> If I can >> Yeah, you you have a um some requests to because that was if you wanted to. >> Yes. So there are two items that um is being requested to be deferred. One is under consent and that item is 9.8

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which is resolution number R2026-54 and that's being requested by the city manager. Item 15.1 under the discussions that's being requested to be deferred by commissioner Sue which is her item entitled boards

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and commission appointments. So if >> okay >> have a motion. >> Um I make a motion. >> All in favor say I. >> I. >> As amended. So um >> thank you. >> Um city attorney, could you I get we're

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on consent. Oh no. Are we on consent or >> city announcement? >> City announcement. Sorry. I'm going to >> Hello. Good evening, mayor and commission, city staff and residents. My name is Jasmine Joseph, the interim

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communications manager. Go ahead and take it away, it good evening, North Miami Beach. The months ahead are filled with opportunities to connect, celebrate, and stay involved. From community events to key city updates, here's a look at what's upcoming as we continue our

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centennial year and strengthen engagement across our community. The city continues to prioritize senior engagement with an upcoming senior lunchon on Friday, April 24th from 11:00 a.m. to 2 p.m. at the Marjgery and

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Williams McDonald Center. In celebration of National Arbor Day, the city of North Miami Beach in partnership with the beautifification committee will host a tree giveaway on Saturday, April 25th from 9:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. at the Senator Gwen Margolus

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Amphitheater. Residents can receive trees while learning about sustainability and environmental stewardship. A farm share food drive will take place on Thursday, April 30th from 9:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m. at the Uita Park Community Center. Food will be distributed on a

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first come, first serve basis with walkups welcome. Join us for the NMB GMA and Kids Fest on Saturday, May 2nd from 11:00 a.m. to 3M at Grrenolds Park. This is a familyfriendly event which will feature live music, cultural entertainment, kids

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activities, and free food. The city of North Miami Beach invites entrepreneurs and small business owners to attend the Small Business Summit and Expo on Wednesday, May 6th from 10:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m. at City Hall. The event will feature workshops, networking

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opportunities, and business resources. Registration is encouraged through the provided QR code. Step into Elegance at the Bridgetton Senior Prom on Monday, May 11th from 1:00 p.m. to 400 p.m. at the Marjorie and Williams McDonald Center. Residents

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are invited to enjoy an afternoon of music, dancing, and a beautiful themed experience designed especially for our senior community. Experience culture and community at the NMBB Asian Night Market happening

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Saturday and Sunday, May 16th through 17th. Enjoy food, entertainment, shopping, and live performances in celebration of AhPI Heritage Month. The next regular city commission meeting

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is scheduled for Tuesday, May 19th at 6 p.m. located at City Hall. Residents are encouraged to attend and participate in shaping the future of the community. Free healthc care services will be available at the UMC Mobile Health

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Clinic on Sunday, May 24th from 2:30 p.m. to 3:30 p.m. at the Ulita Park Community Center. No insurance, no appointments are required. The city continues to prioritize senior engagement with an upcoming senior

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lunchon on Friday, May 29th from 11:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. at the Marjgery and William McDonald Center. Close out the month of May at the community tea party on Saturday, May 30th from 10:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. at the Ronald A. Silver Youth Enrichment

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Center. Residents are invited to enjoy a day of culture, connection, and community. Residents are encouraged to stay informed by signing up for the city of North Miami Beach text messaging system. Realtime updates, alerts, and community

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information are available by registering online or scanning the QR code provided. For a century, North Miami Beach has grown through vision, diversity, and a commitment to public service. My name is Darvin Williams and I'm the

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city manager for the city of North Miami Beach. So exciting to be a part of the city at this historic moment, 100 years. We invite everyone, residents, visitors, and stakeholders alike to be a part of this once in a generation celebration.

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Together we honor the past, celebrate the present, and move forward united for the next 100 years. As a city looks ahead, it's all a part of our centennial celebration and continued investment in keeping our

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community connected and informed. For more information on these events and other city initiatives, visit the city of North Miami Beach website or follow us at citynm on social media. Stay connected, stay informed, and continue celebrating 100red years of North Miami

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Beach. >> And okay, I'll be sure to make that adjustment. Yes. um through the city clerk's office. We would also like to announce that the city of North Miami Beach inperson clean

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campaign class is taking place on Tuesday, May 5th from 6:30 to 8:30 here in the chamber. We hope to see you there, >> Vice Mayor. Okay. >> Well, now can you hear me? Okay. So, we

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don't have a quorum. >> We don't have the attorney. Okay. We have the >> Okay. So, now we have one, two, three. We have quum. No problem. >> You were the first one that walked out. It was the others who left. >> City commission reports.

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>> City commission reports. Madam Clerk, >> Commissioner Shoff, >> good evening everybody. Condolences to your wife, you know, your family losing your wife and I know that's a terrible thing. You were married for how many years? >> 33. >> 33 years.

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All right. Um, again, my apologies to any of the events that I've missed um from uh starting April 15th when I had my surgery. Um, today is the first day back and I did miss the Esposa uh, Eastern Shores Communities one on on the

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15th, my day of surgery. So, I do apologize for that. And the other big one was the heritage day. Besides the heritage day at Washington Park, Washington Park was privileged to have the first centennial block party. So

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hopefully the rest of our communities are going to get that. But, you know, again, it was I'm sure it was great to have and the community appreciated it and thank you all. I want to thank the um Phyllis and Lynn for going today for Fran. Fran Ricka for those of you who

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don't know passed away and Fran was on our beautifification for many many years and was an intricral part and we redid the Taylor Park which was thank the community thank our uh city staff thank the police department thank everybody

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our manager for allowing it and it was a great dedication this morning. Um, we thought she was there with the winds blowing through us all because it was so windy this morning and and again she was a lovely woman that we we miss her dearly already. All right. Um,

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congratulations to Donnie Reynolds. As I said, Donnie has been an institution in this community as started out as a motorman and traveled, you know, all training all the motormen and again did a great job for our community and still

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here as a reserve officer. and we really do appreciate that. Arbor Day is this Saturday. Okay, what is Arbor Day? Arbor Day is tree giveaway day. Each resident of North Miami Beach will get two trees,

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one fruit tree and one regular tree. And all of our trees are Florida native and you know, better for droughts and so on and so forth and hurricanes. So talk to us before you purchase. It's you don't purchase, you get them for free. Before

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you get your tree, really look at the chart that we're going to have that will tell you how big that tree is going to get. And you know, trees don't grow like super fast. They take a while. So, you know, be in your house for 5 years and then it finally is 5t tall, but you

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know, so on and so forth. But that's is this Saturday 9:00 and it's free to all residents. And actually this year it's uh free to our non-residents also because the county is giving us 200 trees. So we have a total of 400 trees

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this year and we want to give them all away. So everybody please come on Saturday. Uh what else? Oh the most important thing. There's a group going doortodoor in our

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community right now and trying to get you to sign a petition. If they get on go on your door and won't go away, call the police. Okay? They're representing themselves as being the city of North Miami Beach. They are in no way, shape, or form attached to the

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city of North Miami Beach. And what they're asking you to sign is to go to districtricing. You've heard you heard two or three people talk about it. districtricting was brought up as this commission when I was there many years ago and we heard from our citizens who

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didn't want it. They wanted all of us to represent them, not one. And that's what districtricing will do. So again, we had a pastor of our community pro, you know, talking about it, how good it is. It's not good and the pastor should stay away

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from that. This is a political hot potato right now. and they came to my door on Sunday and my wife told them to leave not signing that you have that right to do that. And I don't know why they didn't come to our city. We have a

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committee meeting right now to come up with things that we want to do and bring forward and they just are disrespecting that. So stick up for your community. Don't sign the petition. Thank you.

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Commissioner, you want I got a point for regarding the arbit the trees. Are we going to put some aside for the because I know it's Saturday the orthodox meeting? >> Yes. Yes. >> The Orthodox have to go to the library. the library will have the trees and I have made a request and the manager will

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said he'll follow through to make sure they don't just get the they that the Orthodox don't just get the trees that are not fruitbearing that they will also have the pick of some fruit bearing trees. They're not just going to get the leftovers. >> Yes. >> Do we know what type of trees it is?

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>> What >> I mean other than fruit like >> do we know what type of trees are going away? >> I don't remember. Does anybody here know what type of >> No. >> Oh, all right.

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>> I'll have Maria the our arborist send it to all of you. What the >> email sent out again? >> Yes. >> I know it's we do it every year. >> Yeah, we we've always advertised what type of trees are being given out and we didn't this year. >> Yeah, we'll send it to them. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Sorry. Sorry about that,

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>> Mr. Mayor. >> Yeah, >> I think I have some information. We have starf fruit, jackf fruit, sour sap, and mulberry. Whatever. >> Okay. >> All right. >> So, >> those are the fruit trees.

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>> That's all I got. I got something. Commissioner Flormon, your commissioner report, please. >> Thank you, uh, Madame Clerk. Uh, first of all, I wanted to, uh, extend our deepest condolences to you and your family, uh, Mr. Camuli.

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>> Yes. Um, our thoughts and praise are with you. On uh last week, we had the uh great pleasure of welcoming uh an international soccer superstar uh Dukens Nazone uh to the city of North Miami Beach. And um you know, let me tell you,

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the amount of energy that was in that room was uh was remarkable was remarkable. I think that, you know, when it comes to um the FIFA World Cup and all that it brings to the United States, really having a focal point on North

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Miami Beach for that purpose was a good thing. And so I want to thank all of our team, our staff members uh who work so hard to put that together. Thank you so much. Haitian Heritage Month is in May, so we have a lot of uh things in store uh for our community. Um the KA and

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KidsFest uh is is is is coming up. Um in addition to that, I know that there's other events that are happening such as the kickoff for um District 2 with uh Commissioner Marlon Bastier. Uh but throughout the county, there's a calendar that's actually available for

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people who want to participate in various events throughout Miami Day County. So, please be on the lookout for that. Uh Heritage Day, Heritage Day is always amazing. Um, and I really look forward to it every single year. I was excited to participate this year. And so

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I want to thank the voters council for welcoming the entire community uh to Heritage Day. What I will say is though I I feel um as if we can work a little bit uh more in concert with uh the voters council. Not that we're not already doing that, but I think that we

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need to do that with a particular objective. Um, which they can agree with perhaps is that when when I look at certain communities, um, there are certain festivals and things that happen in those communities that really draw a crowd from all over South Florida. And I

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think that what the voters council is offering in North Miami Beach is historical in nature that people from all over South Florida uh should know that it's happening, right? Um and that it could be a really big attraction for the city of North Miami Beach just like

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in Cy Trunk if we everybody knows about you know what what goes over what goes on over there every year. Um, and so I think that, you know, uh, Washington Park is that place, right, that we can have people from all over the county and all over South Florida come and enjoy

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um, the Heritage Day uh, festivity. So, Mr. Manager, if you can look into that with the voters council, like this this event is already on the map, but it I I know it could be even bigger uh, than what it is now. Uh, aside from that, the voting site for Washington Park, it's

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super super important that we make sure that that issue is addressed. I understand that um the county is leads that effort, but they've always used the facility provided to them by our city. And so I think that we need to also be

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be be very much in the driver's seat um as to uh what we're offering them to solve that issue uh related to the voting site. Um and whether or not they've approved of something already, I don't know. I I'm understanding that they've taken a tour of certain sites,

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but if those sites don't work, if we have to get trailers and put them out there uh at the same location where people have been used to voting, we need to really take that assignment on to make sure that the Washington Park residents um are not trying to figure it

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out um during uh election day. Okay? And so there's those people who may come to vote at 12:00 in the afternoon and you tell them to go to another location, but then what about the person who gets off of work at 6:30 and shows up to the poll at 6:50 and then they don't know where

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to go? Or what about the person that needs to vote before they go to work and they don't know where to go or it gets confusing for them. So I I really want to make sure that we have something in that area specific to uh Washington Park. So Mr. Manager and Madam City Clerk, >> thank you.

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>> We're on it. All righty. EspoA, thank you so much uh Eastern Shores Property Owners Association for welcoming us to your annual uh meeting. Uh in addition to that, I just want to say I I I did hear the conversation about Little HDFC and its

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importance. Um, and so I am ready to support that initiative, but I also want to hear a little bit more about making sure that all of the kids in our community have a way of um of playing

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soccer. I I I don't think it has to be something that is adverse or uh something that is divisive in nature. I think that it's something where we can look at making sure that all of the kids in the area are are supported. So, thank you so much Commissioner Jean. >> Thank you. Good evening, everyone. I

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just wanted to thank all of our city staff, city manager for all the amazing events that we've had in the past couple of weeks. It's been really exciting to see our community come together. Um, as Commissioner Flemont mentioned, EspoA

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and all the other communities that have really engaged us. Uh, I had the pleasure of also witnessing to the force. I think it was his 30th anniversary and it was amazing to see all the officers come out um for a great cause. Um I want to use the rest of my

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time to get an update on Washington Park um for through the attorney. I know the last week had a meeting about um the current contract and the new contractor. Um can you give us a quick update? We had an internal meeting to discuss uh

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with um one of my partners and with procurement some um concerns about our sta standard contract that came from the proposed uh new contractor, the low bid, which again let

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me point out is some $3.7 million less than what the one that had previously been presented. substantial savings to the city due to rebidding it, which is we believe is our our right to do. Uh we still have some litigation we're moving

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forward to on that, but that hopefully is nearing a conclusion. But regardless of that, um we went over the concerns that the proposed new contractor has. Keep in mind that though they're at 15.3, we

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have another proposal that came in at 16.1. if we need to go that route. Um, we're setting a meeting with the new contractor to talk about the objections that they had, which we've discussed internally in the last few days and uh

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hopefully we'll be able to come to agreement on contract terms with them, but if not, we have somebody lined up right behind them. >> All right. So I know the last the last meeting we were made assure that through the city manager and your team you guys would be able to to move forward and and

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and getting that that done. Uh the last I spoke to you I remember it was you were mentioning oh it's a fiveweek delay which turned into a six-mon delay. So I'm hoping that we can expedite this process and hopefully the next commission meeting I'll start my my my

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comments with the same question. I I don't know. I mean, the item had previously been in front of you in November, but that was before we we were still talking contract. That was into January side. It is a little bit of a

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delay. U I don't think it's 6 months, Commissioner, but >> we're headed there. I hopefully not, but we uh it's an urgent project, but on the other hand, we're talking I mean millions of dollars that were saved in we know it's a very

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tight budget environment. So, we're trying to balance getting it done as quickly as we can, but the millions of dollars in savings just was something that in consultation with the administration we just didn't think could be ignored. >> Absolutely. Well, looking forward to

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hearing from you and seeing how we can get an update weekly. Thank you, >> Commissioner Smith. Thank you so much. Good evening, everybody. Terrence, our hearts go out for you. You've been a loyal resident

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that cares about us and we care about you. Um, so I have a few things to say that are just standard. What are we doing? What kind of meetings? One of them is the senior lunchon which is always packed.

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It's always full. You must sign up. You must call. You must register. You must come to the city and sign up. The senior prom night. So, everybody saw it was Bridgetton. Um, I don't think I I don't think there'll be anything illicit

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because I have seen that show once. I think it's just going to be a lot of fun. And if you know my if you know my board, they are ordering dresses online so they can look of that era. It is going to be a lot of fun and it's going

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to be a full house again. You must sign up. Okay. Um Saturday we have a lot of things going on at the library. the tree, the free trees, and of course the Orthodox family

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can come and get their trees at the library during the week. And there will be some fruit trees for sure, as well as the other trees. They're not going to get the end of the pickings, but Saturday also 9:00 in the morning, I

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think, till 1, you can get your driver's license renewed or get a driver's license if you lost one. So, that's a once a month service and it's coming Saturday. Um, I want to say that Eastern Shores had its annual meeting

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and we try our best to do this in every neighborhood. The thing that I want to mention about it is people came with their concerns, their complaints, and you know what, the manager was there, the police department was there,

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code enforcement was there. They listened. They listen. So, please don't sit at home and stay silent and stew over things that you see are not taken care of. Broken sidewalks, potholes,

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horrible traffic, a neighbor that is encroaching on your property. Whatever you see, call us. We can't be on every street and we don't know. But when you call, we're going to do our best to remedy it. We want you to

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be happy where you live and we want you to be happy in North Miami Beach. I also want to tell you my safety program is going to start safety safety first initiative. We're going to come to every neighborhood with the police department

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with the manager and we're going to give you more insight to help to keep your family safe. These are crazy times. These are crazy times, but we are on top of it. Uh the first one will be in Washington Park. Next week we'll work

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out start to work out the dates and the times and where to meet and that'll be published. I also want to say that I did I too missed a few things last week. Some of you know my husband had emergency surgery and it felt funny. It

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absolutely felt funny when I got the call that he needed to go to the hospital. They thought they were going to take him. I was on my way to present a proclamation for the city for Enchanted Lake down in North Miami. I was on 135th Street because half of

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it's in North Miami Beach and half in North Miami. And my family can't get over I can't either that I went to him in an emergency before I did the proclamation. It felt funny not to be there and not to make sure that your

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money when you have an event is well spent, well attended, and well performed, well done. So that's the reason I go. And I tell you, lately it's been amazing the turnout.

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Uh we just had Saturday for autism. The room was packed the packed and the only thing I can say to you what I say to them if you don't show up we're not going to spend the money next year. So thank all of you that come thank all of

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you that take advantage of what we're offering. I just want to tell everybody to have a good week to stay safe. Um I will say one more thing and thank you to the manager Hazel Crawford. I believe

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that's going to be if I've got the got it right because um she is going to have an award because the first woman to ever integrate and I was going to tell you it's going to be at the Miami Dade um

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junior college on Northwest 27th Avenue. I was going to give you the date if you wanted to attend and watch her get her award. That would be fabulous because we do want to support everybody that is recognized from North Miami Beach. Well, come and see me after call Smith and

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here it is. It's going to be recognition ceremony community partners award on April 28th from 10 to 11:30 in the morning and that's at Miami Day College North Campus

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in the um William Leman Theater. All of you have a safe, wonderful uh month. We look forward to seeing you in June. And don't forget, we have swimming lessons for your children that don't know how to swim that are free.

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Our favorite four-letter f word, free. If your child doesn't swim, that's on you. We live in an area that has water and when you don't see the water, go around the block and you'll see more water. We

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have water everywhere. You must take advantage and make sure everybody in your household swims. Thank you. Have a great month. I look forward to seeing you soon. >> Commissioner Sue, thank you. Good evening, Mayor, colleagues, staff, and residents. Um, of

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course, uh, I just want to give a shout out to all the past events that we just had in the past this past month, whether it be Heritage Day or the FIFA activation with Dukens Nison. Um, all of that. I have to tell you that without our wonderful staff, it would not have

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been successful. Um, so I'd like to begin by recognizing autism awareness month. I think we've like mentioned this several times. So uh just so that um just to keep an open mind like it's just for us to promote and understand accept

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and include uh individuals and families in our community. Um I think our city is like really I mean our commissioners here have done a wonderful job in that. So we must continue and uh ensure our programs and public spaces and services are accessible and welcoming to

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everyone. As we move into April into May, I want to highlight several important recognitions. Um, we will continue to observe National Volunteer Month and I want to sincerely thank all of our volunteers, especially those serving on our boards and committees. As

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you've seen today, we recognize Fran Ra and that is all because of our boards and our volunteers. So, thank you so much. You strengthen North Miami Beach every day. Um, May also brings us many heritage months. So, uh, as Commissioner

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Fleurmont mentioned, we have the Haitian Heritage Month, we have the Jewish American Heritage Month, and we have the Asian-American Pacific Islander and Native Hawaiian Heritage Month. So, there's a lot of that. Um, each and every one reflects the diversity that is

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very at the core of North Miami Beach. So um let's sh you know we have a shared humanity here in our city. Um for our workforce we recognize and thank public service recognition week. I want to thank all of you public service uh

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people out there. Um teacher appreciation week. I think it's May 4th to May 8th. Uh national national nurses week and police week. Um these are the people who keep our city safe and keep us uh taken care of all the time. Um,

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Earth Day is tomorrow. So, a reminder that our environment needs to deserves to be protected not just tomorrow, but every day. Um, administrative professionals day is also tomorrow. So, honoring those who keep everything operating behind the scenes. Thank you

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so much. And Memorial Day is coming up. So, you know, be sure to participate in that. That comes towards the end of the month of May. Um, of course that is the most important because those people made the ultimate sac ultimate sacrifice. Um, our next UMC

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free clinic will be at Ulita May 24th. So if you know anyone who doesn't have insurance, who is not very healthy or who had recently lost their benefits or anything like that, be sure to keep an eye out for the you for the for the clinic. Um, I want to remind our

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employees as well. We have part-time employees who don't have health care, you are welcome to come to that um facility. So I see Coach JP, if you have families that do not have health care, please remember that um we offer free

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health care. U that's also free prescription medication as well. Um all right, so I'm excited to share by popular demand, North Miami Beach Asian Night Market is back. Um, everybody has

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been asking me about this. We're h it's happening May 16th and 17th from 3 to 10 pm at the Jeffrey and Patricia Mishon parking lot. Uh, this is a vibrant celebration of culture, food, small businesses, bring the community, bring

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your family. A meaningful way for us to celebrate AsianAmerican Native Hawaiian Pacific Islander Heritage Month right here in North Miami Beach. Um, so we have incredible energy this year and we are expecting a bigger

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turnout. So last time we hosted almost 2,000 people and this time we're hoping to get to 3,000 and um I encourage everyone to come out. We've worked out it worked it out with the vendors. They are not charging anyone whether you're a resident or not a resident. So invite

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all the whole entire family to come enjoy you know try out something new. We have um I also was able to get uh a local celebrity. So she's a half Vietnamese Chinese. Her name is Lena. If you were to go to one of her concerts,

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it would the tickets would be in the hundreds. She has agreed to make an appearance and perform at in North Miami Beach, just North Miami Beach for free. So she's doing this pro bono. So if you want to see if you you're not sure whether you want to go to our concert,

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you can come take a take a listen uh at the Asian Night Market. So um other than that, I want us to be adventurous, check out each other's culture, learn about what we eat and what we do and uh there's a lot of merchandise going on, you know, selling there. So I would love

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to invite you all to come join the fun and enjoy the evening together in the Asian Night Market. And last but not least, Is the foodission >> is the food free? >> No, >> Commissioner Jean has really good ears.

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Uh, >> no. You said something about >> You said something about you guys worked it out with the vendors. I just didn't know what that meant. >> Yeah. >> So, what happened is uh last time, you know, we we we charged the vendors, right, to be there. Um, this time we are

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we're having a different pay structure in a way that we can allow for all the pe all like the entrance entrance tickets. Last time the tickets for non-residents were $7. >> Oh, okay. Okay. >> Right. That's the what's free. So, um, so I mean like if you had friends and

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family who really like something like this and you want to invite them to come over and you're the NMBB host, you know, it's all free. >> Okay. Are we clear on that? And that we're good. >> Yes. >> Okay. No free food though. So, um, listen, patronize our vendors. It's very important. If you want them to

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come back, if you like them, you know, so, um, if you co go there and, uh, window shop, most likely they won't be coming back to us again. So, um, and we have a lot of locals this time, too. All right, this is very important to me. So, as we approach Mother's Day, Mother's

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Day is May 10th. Um, I know you know that for me, my mother is very important. Um, I want to close with a reflection. There was a time in all of our lives when we couldn't take care of ourselves. When we depended entirely on someone

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else. For many of us, that was our mother who carried us, protected us, and sacrificed in ways we may not have fully understood. Even now, I have to remind myself that beyond flowers and gifts,

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the greatest thing we can give is honor. Honor is how we speak to our mothers, how we care for them, and how we carry forward the values they gave us. To all the mothers in the community and all those who listen, happy Mother's Day,

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and thank you for everything you've done and continue to do. Thank you, >> Vice Mayor Fortuna Smuckler. Good evening. Um I hope to see you all May 2nd, Saturday, May 2nd when um the

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multicultural committee and the city of North Miami Beach mayor and commission bring you the North Miami Beach Ka and KidsFest from 11:00 a.m. to 300 p.m. and it's going to be held at Grenald's Park.

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And please register in advance. Very important. And the following Saturday, May 9th, the Commission of Status of Woman is bringing back the Jacqueline Smith Mother's Day breakfast. And as soon as

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that is open to the public, um, it's for mothers only. So, dads, you can go shop at Walmart or you can go to the library. Well, what >> together? Yeah. Or go to ace. There's a lot of places you can shop in North

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Miami Beach. Happy Earth. Happy Arbor Day. Happy administrative professional day. Happy Cinco de Mayo. Happy Mother's Day. >> Cinco de Mayo. >> Yes. >> We should celebrate Cinco de Mayo in our city.

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Um, no. That's May the 4th be with you the day before. Yeah. Didn't get it. May the fourth be with you. Get it? >> Yes. >> Okay. Okay. Um TC, again, my condolences

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um for the loss of your wife and to Hamid Nakvine, our water plant director. Um our condolences for the loss of his brother. Um, this past Sunday at the library, we hosted an autism fair. And

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as always, everything the library does, everything the li like there's nothing the library can do wrong. It was such a an a wonderful affair and uh brought so much into education into the lives of

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families with children of autism. Sorry I couldn't be there for our friend Ra this um earlier this morning that I had to go to work and I just couldn't get out of going. Thank you to the PD for always always always taking care of

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all of us, our families, our visitors, our residents, our our um employees, everybody. So I'm going to be talking a lot today. Um there was a

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there is sorry uh recently there was a mailer some of you have already mentioned it and some in the audience has as well. Recently there was a mailer mailer sent out about a petition going around. I believe that I have not seen a mailer

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in its entirely and conveniently I suppose it was not sent to my household. I just want to clarify some misinformation. Eastern Shores or the east side does not

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have four commissioners. We currently have two commissioners in Eastern Shores and one in Western eastern Shores. 2 + 1 equals three. Okay. I am termed out. I live in

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Eastern Shores. Commissioner Smith, who is from Eastern Shores, is up for reelection. When I am turned out, that leaves 3 - 1

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equals two from the east side. Ironically, there are four on the west side. Yet, that is not what is being told. People say that the west side is not being taken care of, but four equals

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majority vote. I live in Eastern Shores and we do not or I don't have underground electricity. >> Okay. Thank you, Commissioner Smith. We

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have cables, cable lines falling within reach of short people like me. We do not have a community center or a community pool or I'm getting into it. Not everybody has a pool in their

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backyard. >> I do not. >> Okay. Commissioner Smith does not. We have a park that is probably, you know, I wrote down that um it's probably the same size as this room, but I think it's smaller.

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Then what do you think, Commissioner Smith? I think it's smaller than this room. >> This room? >> Yeah. >> Half the size? >> Okay. So, we have a part the half the size of this room. I have gone there with my grandkids and I will tell you that if there are three

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or four different kids there with their prospective parents or grandparents, it gets crowded and the kids have to wait to get on the few rides that are there to the point of removing the term limits.

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Ironically, they wanted to start in 2028 when three commissioners are termed out allowing them to stay. coincidence. I don't know. To the point of districtricting, I'm not going to get into that very long

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opinion of mine and back and forth. So, you can call me to discuss. Lastly, this petition is not endorsed or sponsored by the city and the employees are not city employees.

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And to the person supposedly in charge of it, you are supposed to be a man of God, a man that should not lie or encourage misinformation, someone who should be trusted.

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Please tell the employees you have hired to stop giving misinformation and correct your flyers. Obviously, you have big money behind you because those flyers and those employees cost a lot of

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money. So, you should do it, re fix those flyers, resend them correctly without lies or misinformation because big money, the people behind you, they

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have no problem spending money and they should be truthful. You know, for the last year and a half that this commission has been here a little bit less than maybe year and a

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half, I have been saying that we are the city that is probably the most diverse commission. And I say it proudly. I love it. I love the diversity here. I was on the radio this past Sunday and once again bragged

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about our commission diversity. I was happy to hear that Duke Naison was coming to our city. Although I had not known who he was prior to his visit, after looking him up, I was certainly thrilled to meet him. And he was so

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nice. He's I saw him the day after also as well. And super nice guy, really down to earth. After his visit, I was informed by Creole speakers that Commissioner Jean made some inappropriate remarks during the press

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conference. And I was also told that while she was saying them, that Dukan's face changed and it was not from happiness, but more from disbelief. >> What remarks were those? >> I'm going to talk. I'm not finished. I need not >> You're saying my name, I need to know

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what those >> Well, let me finish and you'll find out. Okay. >> And I'm actually wrote down asking you to to talk about it. If you come right here, it'll say Commissioner Jean. I was not happy to hear what I was being

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told. I asked for a translation because I did not want to go by chatter here and there. And I did get a translation. Commissioner Jean starts off by saying that the most important thing at this

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moment is a moment for of unity for our community. I agree. After all, having Dukans there and having someone from Haiti in such a historic sports event is amazing. He is a role model and I think I even

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touched him that when I spoke hoping that children learn and do as him. He actually turned to me and thanked me. A little later on, Commissioner Jean states now to I would like to ask you

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for something very special. We see that the Haitian electorates need the support of the community. I say this in Creole so that we can understand the community needs it. We need a serious backup at

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this time, especially in the coming time in the time of this upcoming election in 2026. If Haitians do not stand together, we will definitely lose the city. I ask you with all sincerity to stand together

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behind your leaders and all your future leaders coming to us so that the city can stand up and everyone in the community can receive what they deserve. First of all, I am both shocked and

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upset. Mostly upset because I myself have done a lot for the Haitian community for all communities equally. equally being the key word. Shocked because this is campaigning. In my opinion, you're encouraging residents to

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organize politically in a public setting, in a public meeting, in a public building. Imagine me saying something to the effect, "Oh, vote Jewish, vote Cuban,

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vote women." No, that is not acceptable. We are all equal. No race, religion, ethnicity, education, or background makes any of one of us any better or worse than the

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other. And every community deserves to be heard and receive everything equally. Our residents, employees, and vendors expect us to be fair. While I brag about how diverse we are, I

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now seeing that people are trying to cause diversion. And like I said, Commissioner Jean, through the mayor, I would like to give you an opportunity to either clarify or apologize for your message.

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>> Thank you so much. Through the mayor, I want to be very clear. I grew up in this community. I came here at the age of six years old. North Henry Beach is my city just like it is all of our cities here.

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I made comments at our last commission meeting that I stand behind as we celebrate every culture, every community, and even during times where we go out and campaign and do different things. There are communities that are left

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behind. This is a hard statement to make, but it's it is a statement that I have to make. Um, when we look at outreach in our community, it should be done in Spanish. It should be done in all languages. It should be done for all the community to benefit.

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And I stand behind that statement. All of our communities should be reached. All of our communities should be reached in the way they need to be reached. That is a fair statement and I stand behind this statement that I'm making right now. All communities should be reached.

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When I knock on doors, a lot of a lot of community a lot of people who are cre speaking in this community say they don't know what's going on in our community. Every community needs something different and the city needs to provide it to every community.

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>> Mr. mayor through the mayor. If I may, let me just say something. I'm a lot older. I've been around the block more than most of you. Especially I've been around blocks 46 years selling houses. You know, you don't sell a house. You

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sell the people. Let me just tell you something. This is a different statement than you're making. We don't sit up here for one group, for one ethnic group. I we have voted on many things. I have said so

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many times the Haitian community went to Haiti, honorary Haitian. I have said the needs we're we're voting on something tonight that's called a Haitian soccer team even though

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it is welcoming to everyone. If you're a Jewish kid from Sky Lake, if you're a Puerto Rican kid from Eastern Shores, everyone's inclusive. To sit up here and say that we're not reaching every

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community is an insult to all of us. >> Commissioner Smith, I have to be This is This is a delicate conversation. Little Haiti FC is not going to create a Little Haiti FC here. They're creating a North Miami Beach team. the the program

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itself is called Little Haiti FC in Little Haiti, but what they're creating is North Miami Beach, >> which is what I just said. You don't have to be Haitian, right? >> But you're stating that the Haitian community is not being reached. And by the way, Haitian community, be sure to vote vote for the Haitians so we can be

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that's what I just heard. >> This is this is what I just heard. And >> and it's a fair statement. Um it's a fair like I said, it's a hard statement, but it's a fair statement. Every community that needs to be reached needs something different

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>> and we're we're I hope at the commission we're giving it to you. I hope we're addressing everybody and I just said in my speech call us >> mayor. >> Okay. Um I hate to interrupt. It pains me, but I I would ask that we have one

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speaker at a time because it's difficult for no >> minutes and transcripts to reflect who's speaking when two people speak at the same time. I apologize for speaking up. >> All right, I heard all the comments. Can

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I have it on? I'm I'm I'm I'm just going to say that it was said if Haitians do not stand together, we will definitely lose the city. I again I >> I

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I've been invited to Haiti and I would have gone if it was not because security reasons. I would love to go to Haiti and I would love to one day go to a free Haiti. However, you know,

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we especially, you know, and when you go door todoor, if you want to speak like that, you're going door todoor. But we are in a This was said in a in a public building, in a city building. This was said at a moment where, you know, we're

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coming together. We're bringing Duke in here to our city. you know, he he shouldn't even be like like his I was told because I was, you know, I can't see his face, the the audience. I was told that his face was in disbelief. You

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know, we should be showing unity. I am I am so again, and I'm still going to continue bragging about how we're the the most diverse commission probably. I like to say, you know, Florida, then I'll sometimes I'll say United States, you know, whatever I'm in

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the mood to say because I really believe that this is true, but definitely in Miami date county. And um, you know, we should not be campaigning. We should not be telling people how to vote and we should always, you know, stand. We

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should stand together. All of us should stand together. It's not about a group of people because a group of people standing together to vote is actually you're you're creating um you know you're you're creating diversity. I have voted for Haitians. I

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have not voted for Jews. I have not voted for Cubans. I will always vote for the right person. I will vote for the right I will not vote for my party. I will vote first for the right candidate. So,

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you know, I I guess you know, I was I was hoping you were going to apologize, but you're not. And um Okay, I'm going to finish this. Thank you. And let's continue. >> Thank you, >> Mayor Michael Joseph.

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>> Um I'm not feeling too well. I want to move this along. So, can we go to the consent agenda, please? >> Mr. Mayor, >> yes. >> I'd like to make a statement, please. I'll be very quick. >> Okay. So, um, we discussed or stated

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everything that we're celebrating for during the month of May. >> Uhhuh. >> I would be remiss if I didn't state that May 3rd through May um 9th um is the 57th Professional Municipal Clerk's Week and just kudos to all the

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clerk and whoever is listening out there. >> City attorney. Yes, >> Mr. Mayor, could I just make a one statement? I have two things. Sorry, mayor. One, I want to just say one thing. >> Commissioner, since the mayor addressed me, I just want to be sure I didn't miss. >> No, I wanted to congratulate uh Vice

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Mayor Fortunism for the home rule award. And I want to just make one statement. When I knock on a Haitian door, they invite me to dinner. They invite me to lunch. So, I'm very blessed that I'm part of that community. Thank you so

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much. But I move. I'm okay. Consent agenda, please. >> I'm Mayor, you had nothing in it. >> Move to introduce. >> I was asking mayor, you there was no report from you. >> No. >> Okay. I just asking. I wanted to be sure. I was had been expecting that.

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There you >> Okay. >> Reading. >> Yes, he's reading. Well, the the the first items are 9.1 commission conference minutes of March 20 uh 26, 2026. Uh item 9.2 regular commission

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meeting minutes of March 26, 2026. And item 9.3, the special taxing districts, there's nothing available. Um so now, Commissioner Chernoff, you're up. >> Move to introduce the consent.

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>> Is there Oh, I'm sorry. I'm I keep on forgetting that I'm supposed to be doing this. >> Is there a second? >> Okay. Uh, second. Sorry. >> Okay. Item 9.4, resolution number R20. I'm sorry. Item

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9.4, resolution number R2026-50, adoption of the FIU North Campus 151st Street Station area master plan, sponsored by the city manager. Resolution. from the mayor and city commission of the city of North Miami Beach, Florida. Adopting the North Miami

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Beach FIU North Campus 151st Street Station area master plan, a transit oriented development plan providing for findings of fact, implementation, scriveners error, severability, and providing for an effective date. Item 9.5, resolution number R2026-51,

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approving a purchase order for laboratory analytical instruments through piggyback contracts with Hatch Company sponsored by the city manager. Resolution of the mayor and city commission of the city in North Miami Beach, Florida, approving purchase orders for laboratory

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analytical instruments through piggyback contracts with Hatch Company in an annual amount not to exceed $200,000 authorizing the city manager or designate to do all things necessary to effectuate this resolution providing for conflicts, providing for scriveners errors, providing for severability, and providing for an effective date. Item

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9.6, Six, resolution number R2026-52, approving a purchase order for fire protection services through a piggyback contract with Johnson Controls Fire Protection, sponsored by the city manager. A resolution the mayor and city commission of the city of North Miami Beach, Florida, approving a purchase order for fire protection services

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through a piggyback contract with Johnson Controls Fire Protection LP in an annual amount not to exceed 100,000 authorizing the city manager designated all things necessary to effectuate this resolution providing for conflicts for scriven errors providing for severability and providing for an

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effective date item 9.7 resolution number R2026-53 approving and authorizing a purchase order with OMBS Security System LLC for fire alarm maintenance services sponsored by the city manager. Resolution mayor and city commission city of North Miami Beach, Florida

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approving and authorizing a purchase order with OMS security system LLC in a budgeted amount not to exceed $125,000 for fire alarm maintenance services. Authorizing the city manager designated all things necessary to effectuate this resolution providing for conflicts

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proving for scrutinous service providing for severability subject to the budget appropriations and availability of funds and providing for an effective date. Item 9.8 was deferred. Item 9.9 resolution number R2026-55 authoring and change order to the contract with Trihedral Inc. for the

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purchase of Scattera software configuration and integration services sponsored by the city manager. Resolution the mayor and city commission in the city of North Miami Beach, Florida authorizing a change order to the contract with Trihedro Inc. uh increasing the estimated expenditure by

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$24,850 for the purchase of Scattera software configuration and integration services authorizing city manager designated all things necessary to effectuate this resolution providing for conflicts scriven error serverability and providing for an effective date item

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9.10 10 resolution number R2026-56 authorizing the city manager to accept the grant assistance under Miami date county rescue plan act sponsored by city manager resolution the mayor and city commission is city of North Miami Beach Florida authorizing the city manager to accept a $500,000 grant assistance award

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under the Miami Day County Rescue Plan Act for the Washington Park Community Recreation Center project providing for incorporation of recital and providing for an effective date item 9.11 Resolution number R2026-57 authorizing the city manager to accept

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the grant assistance under the environmental protection agency clean water state revolving fund sponsored by the city manager resolution of mayor and city commission city North Miami Beach Florida accepting a federal grant in the amount of 1,141,38 from the US Environmental Protection

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Agency through the fiscal year 2022 community project funding program is secured by congressional Representative Fedria Wilson for the city of North Miami Beach drainage improvement project authorizing the city manager designate to execute all necessary agreements and documents providing for implementation

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and providing for an effective date item 9.12 resolution number R2026-58 authorizing the city manager to accept a grant assistance under Miami date county community development block grant sponsored by the city manager resolution mayor and city commission city of North Miami Beach Florida accepting community

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development block grant reallocation from uh funding for Miami date county in the amount of $460,000 for the Washington Park swimming pool Improvement Project authorizing city manager designated to execute all necessary agreements documents and providing for an effective date item

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9.13 resolution number R 2026-59 authorizing the city manager to accept the grant assistance under the United States Department of Housing and Urban Development sponsored by city manager resolution the mayor and city commission city in North Miami Beach Florida authorizing the city manager to accept

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grant assistance from the United States Department of Housing and Urban Development, providing for corporation of recital and providing for an effective date. That is the consent agenda. >> Two, three to approve. >> A motion. Do I have a second? >> All in favor say I.

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>> I legislation second reading. >> We'll move to move to introduce ordinance number 2026-04. >> A second. >> Okay. And um there I'm sorry.

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Okay. Um there is nothing under quasi judicial. We're on item 11 legislation. And as just moved 11.1 ordinance number R, I'm sorry. Ordinance number 2026-04 second reading the noise ordinance sponsored by commissioner Sue and

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ordinance of the mayor and city commission of the city of North Miami Beach Florida amending chapter nine of the city of North Miami Beach code of ordinances offenses and miscellaneous provisions section 9-4 noise control to establish specific noise regulations for

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outdoor power tools and landscaping equipment at residences and for outdoor events. and to clarify enforcement providing for conflict severability codification and for an effective date. Um this is second reading and uh mayor

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it's an order for the uh uh at your direction for the sponsor to speak on the item >> and it's community development right? Well, certainly. Yes, sir. And uh um it's >> my item, >> you know. >> Yeah. I mean, it's second reading, so it's it's between us. So, go ahead.

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>> So, I actually So, we're waiting for the county to pass theirs and actually their meeting was today, I believe. I haven't followed up on it, but I asked the attorney. So, you have the latest version in front of you. It's a paper version. I was expecting to get this

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before, but I think the attorney got a little busy, so we didn't get a chance to do that. Um, for just as a as a reference, all the penalties that we had we had amended while we were on the day together um are all in there as from

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what I see. >> Um, >> no, it says 500 off. >> No, no, the new one in front of you. I the one I have that I read this morning or yesterday. >> Right. That's the that's the that's the wrong one. So, um the attorney had just

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completed this today. Is that correct, Mr. Attorney? >> Yes, ma'am. Um, you had indicated when we discussed it several days ago that you were going to end up deferring it anyway because the county was not acting on their >> No, I I mentioned to you in the agenda

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review >> that I said I would like you to make it was wrong. >> Oh, >> well, so go ahead, Commissioner. >> Allow me to finish. Thank you. >> I said that I'd like you to amend it according to our meeting. You said the clerk is looking at the minutes and that

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we'll correct it and send it to me. So now it's being sent to us all of us at this time. So as we are sitting on the deis. So um my point is that I want us to like review this and if there are any corrections to to anything that

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you'd like to amend and I'd like to hear your opinion on it. Uh just as a result I went to the committee hearing with Mr. bank and it passed the committee the infrastructure committee that uh m to commissioner Steinberg is chair that she

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chaired. So in that meeting it passed I believe it was uh 5 to one 4 to one. >> Mhm. So if there are any changes or anything like that we will bring the second reading back at the next meeting. So if there are any changes that you would like

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>> So we're we are deferring the vote for the second reading. >> However, you want to add you want to make sure whatever concern. Okay. >> Correct. I want to make sure that any concerns that the commissioners have that we all work together on this one and pass it unanimously. Yes, sir. >> All right. My concern is on

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>> the chair. >> I'm sorry >> commissioner turnoff. Sorry. >> Uh under G outdoor power tools and landscaping equipment. It says at a residence between hours of 8:00 p.m. and 7 a.m. So that means that it's being

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allowed at 7 a.m. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But I thought we wanted to amend that and not do it so early >> in the summertime when it's so hot for them to starve. >> That was what we agreed. >> No, I don't remember that.

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>> In the summertime when it was so hot, that's what we said. Comm Commissioner Chernoff, whatever the point of that was made by Commissioner Sue when we had agenda review since it was going to be deferred anyway, but the reason that it wasn't

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just deferred before the meeting started was that the commissioner wanted to be sure there was discussion. So, I want to stress to you that regardless of what was done on first reading,

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it's a live item for you to weigh in on if you have thoughts other than what happened at first reading. And since it will be deferred still for a second reading, basically to be sure that we align with the county, you could even

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bring something up. There are such things as second reading amendments as long as they don't as long as they're not drastic and change the nature in such a way that the public has no fair opportunity to know that they might expect that. So your comment regardless

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of whether it was previously discussed, it's open for discussion like yours now, you're not limited by what was done at the previous reading. you can talk about it now or even when the second reading

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is rescheduled. So your your comment is certainly well within bounds. >> All right. So my my concern is that 7 a.m. is too early, especially on the weekend. >> So let's make it 7:30. That's what they do in Sunny Isles.

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>> Anybody else? I'd say 8:00 >> on the weekends. >> But it's on the weekends and seven on the weekdays when the people getting Well, that what you could do. >> I make that amendment. >> All right. >> I'll second that. >> Um before we continue, Commissioner Smith, can you have your point of personal

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>> I have a point of personal privilege. I apologize. I had um voters council on m my mind and I said um Crawford >> who Hazel Crawford who started voters council but Barbara Pearson's the one

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that's going to be honored. Barbara Pearson is the first woman that integrated the North Miami Beach High School and she's going to be honored at um Date County. I apologize for that. Thank you for the letting me correct it. and we all love Barbara

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and uh I appreciate you very much for allowing me to make the correction and bring it bring it where it should be that everybody goes to honor >> mayor did you take a voice vote on this amendment >> I I had a motion and a second so

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all in favor >> so to clarify the motion yeah >> yeah to clarify the motion can you >> clarify the motion >> the there was a a motion to amend the existing hours uh mot by Commissioner Chernoff, seconded by Commissioner Smith

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from 7 a.m. >> to um well, it goes from 8:00 p.m. to 7 a.m. currently. And the motion is to change that to uh 8 a.m. on weekends, but leave it at 7 a.m. on weekdays. That

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correct? >> Correct. >> Correct. >> All in favor say I as amended. I >> I >> pass this now we're >> it's in >> you're back in discussion >> discussion as the for the >> on the noise >> for the for the proposal >> readings before it's deferred >> okay are there any

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>> anybody have any any suggestions >> I mean it's going to if if anybody has any additional concerns I'll have time to bring it up at the next commission meeting >> they certainly can be brought up on second reading unless it's a drastic change in the ordinance

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>> the principle just so everyone understands is it's a matter of the public having notice. If the public knows that this item is going to be discussed and the basic parameters of it, you don't have to have notice that there won't be some tweaking of it. It's

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only if it's a radical >> rewriting or restructuring or adding something that was not contemplated that you have to have a new first reading. >> Okay. >> I just have a question through the mayor for the attorney. If you get an if you

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get something right now to vote on something new or something, do we have do we have the right not to vote till we get the chance to read it? Till we get the chance to know what it says? >> Well, again, the changes >> not on this anything. I'm ask

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>> I'm discussing in general. >> Okay. If the changes are minimal, such as could be brought on the floor, as Commissioner Chernoff just did,

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anything that could be done by a proper amendment, giving it to you in writing in advance of the meeting, even if it's just before the meeting, is no worse than having something that comes up on the floor. If

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it is a substantial rewrite, even if it doesn't mandate a new first reading, then you have the privilege of saying, you know, there's not a this isn't like just the amounts of the fine, which I think was the only thing that changed

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substantially. Maybe the distance was a little, but I think that was in there before. It's just it was like whether it was 153 and five or 250 and something that small you have the ability yes to consider but you also always have the

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right as a commissioner to say you know I haven't really thought about this this is a little different than the way I had analyzed it. I would like this to be deferred to a time certain to the next meeting. You have that privilege if it's a substantial enough change. But if it's

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a minor change, if it could be brought on the floor, then certainly it can be brought presented in writing to you if it's if it's minimal. >> Now, even new legislation, even new legislation is handed to us before we start the meeting. >> If it's brand new and was not previously

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noticed, so that the the issue is frankly is noticed to the public. the public is entitled to advanced notice of what you're going to be talking about. That doesn't mean every tiny little detail, whether the f the fine is 150 or

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250. It means if you're going to start imposing a fine on something that wasn't even mentioned previously, then the public doesn't know that they if they haven't something to say, they have to come. You have the right to vote

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on things that have been noticed, the topics of which have been noticed to the public. But if it's something that's a departure from what the public notices in some substantial way, then no, you

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should not be voting on it. Unless I mean again it could be maybe on a first reading but for second reading you can't have something that's brand new because the public didn't have notice that that idea would come in front of them. So in

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that circumstance no you should not vote on something that's a whole brand new thing. And who would stop the vote? Because >> I would. >> No, you Well, then the trolley vote, the trolley vote, which was supposed to be an extension of a rental for 3 months,

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became a $9 million vote. >> That's why I brought it back, Commissioner. I ruled that it had to come back for a sec a new consideration because it was a departure and it had not that was not made known. And know some people didn't like it, but that's

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why it had to come back for a vote. Exactly. for that reason. You can't bring up something that's brand new without notice. Now, some cities do it, but I don't think it's proper. City in

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Miami, they call them pocket items, and they do it all the time. I think it's not proper. >> It is >> well, and I would rule that way. If if it's something that was not previously introduced and not discussed, then it

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needs to come back. That's why I insisted that item come back for another vote. Okay. >> You're exactly right. >> One more thing about the uh this this particular um resol uh ordinance. I asked the city staff >> to verify with the county because the

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25% is about waterfront. >> It's only about waterfront. The rest of 25 ft is only about waterfront where it says here in yellow that we want to we want the North Rine Beach Commission

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wants to maintain consistency with Miami Dade County. Then we have to know exactly what Miami Dade County is because in the ordinance you changed it to 100 ft and it's only 25. It's only

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you change it from 100 ft to 25 ft and it's only 25 ft in waterfront. >> Commissioner, that's why we in discussion and an agenda review with the sponsor said even though Miami Day County was meeting today, actually

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earlier in the day until they're done, I've seen that commission reverse itself 6 hours after they vote on something on reconsideration. So, we wanted to to be sure we aligned. Wait until they were >> I understand all that, but what I'm

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reading is exact. I understand we're waiting because they haven't voted, but what we're reading, that's all I can do to study is what I can study. I can only I'm I'm given three new things tonight. Right now, three new ones. When do I

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listen to you or do I read what I have to vote on? >> Read what you have to vote on. >> It's not you. I'm just saying directed to the sponsor with all deference. Commissioner I'll defer to the sponsor on on staff to review it. >> Commissioner Sue, sorry.

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>> Thank you. Thank you. Um so so remember that the 25 ft only only asserts 11:00 p.m. to 7:00 a.m. >> Waterfront >> waterfront house to house it is. It's just one house away. So, if you can hear

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the music too loud while you're next door, that still doesn't count until you pass to the next house. >> The staff will review it. Thank you. >> Okay. >> So, so now we're it's we we have a we have the ordinance as amended. We're going to defer it. >> Yes. >> Uh,

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>> and I wanted to check with the manager real quick because I remember that we had talked about a grace period for contractors and service personnel to be 30 days. Was it 30 or 60? Did you confirm as 60 instead? I believe it was 30, Commissioner. >> Yeah. So, Mr. Attorney, I'd like to have

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that corrected because that's what we agreed on. >> Okay. As long as we're correcting it, when you say grace period, what exactly was implied by that? Because >> like the education and um informing the the the contractors and the personnel,

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then the service personnel. >> This is uh item 9.46D. >> I understand. I I I saw the item and I understand it. I did not know. But what I what I'm asking is what is intended by

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quote grace period whether it's 30 or 60. That was a little unclear to me as to what that grace period meant. >> It meant that if these >> it's the penalty aspect of it all. >> Yes. So it's an education period before we actually

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>> before you start finding or any written >> they have a one-time grace >> anybody has a one time >> no or it's just now that every there will be if if it's intended to say that the ordinance

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the better course would be to say if it's just for contractors that's one thing but if you're going to perhaps you want to defer the effective date >> for 30 days to allow for that time of

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education. I'm unclear whether it's your >> I guess what I I think she's mentioning uh and correct me if I'm wrong, Commissioner Sue, that let's say you you've you someone's uh sent the police or someone to complain, right? >> So that first instance, right, they have

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I guess what 30 days to correct. Is that what you're trying to say? >> There's a warning says arrest. Tell me if I can let him first >> because he's going to be the one executing it. So anyway, >> okay. >> I'll let him share how he's going to do that. >> Okay. >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. So, uh generally our process is uh when allowed to is we

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provide a uh 30 days of instructional period andformational period to the residents particularly if an ordinance has a penalty to it. So we'll pro we'll have a workshop an educational workshop invite the residents out make sure that particularly for if a particular

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community is impacted uh we will target that community with flyers and doortodoor and uh doortodoor knockers. Uh after that um uh generally speaking the first citation is a so you is a warning and you have 30 days to uh

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ensure that that um that it doesn't you don't have a similar occurrence or if it's a a type of physical violation that you have to correct it after that first citation after that 30 days. If another one occurs within 30 days or or 30 days passes and the correction has not been

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implemented, the next citation is is is a monetary fine. So, I'm clear on the 30-day warning. But as to the grace period, which is separate, if I am understanding uh the city manager Williams correctly, what it's going to

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be is once the ordinance is adopted on second reading, there will be a one-time 30-day grace period during which the city will conduct some education, but that's not available to individual

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contractors thereafter. After that one-time grace period after adoption, what we have is something that says the first violation is a warning, but if there's a repeat, then they're responsible. That's that's what's intended >> through the mayor to the city attorney.

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That's correct. >> Thank you. >> I think we're on track. This is great. So, um yes, I think the grace >> the grace period that you mentioned is correct. there is a period of time that we need to send out information and and

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notify and educate everybody on this new ordinance. Um, but each occurrence, so if somebody blasts the music, let's say at midnight, you know, heard five doors down and there's a report.

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The we go in and we do a written warning, right? 15 minutes later they after they turn it down, they do it again. That is when the first fine kicks in because it's not a 30-day period that they're not committing to the same thing

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because sometimes like you have to have it stop. So that occurrence must stop immediately. It's not a 30-day to you know cure bringing down the volume. So that's what my concern is. >> Mayor through through the mayor. Um that's exactly what my understanding I

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think that's what it says about providing the warning. Mhm. >> Um and then if there's, you know, you get a warning for the first violation, you don't get extra time, you get a warning. If there's a second violation, it's a second violation. And I think

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that's clear. But the grace period, which is the education period, based on the level of what city manager Williams described and going out to communities and and making sure that affected

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communities received notice and and education as to it. That's why we thought the 60-day grace period made more sense because getting all of that education done and scheduling if necessary workshops in different

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communities might be difficult to complete citywide within 30 days. >> Mr. Manager, what's your Would you like to opine on that? 60 days, 30 days or you have you

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think 30 days is sufficient. >> Um it's be the will of the commission. Um we can do 30 days, we can do 60 days. >> Well, we have time to decide between now and then. Okay. >> So, do we have a a motion to defer? >> Yes. Bring back at the next May I have a

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a direction for Mr. Attorney. Could you please uh make sure you check with the county ordinance on what the vote pass is and then propose any changes by the 30th of April >> if it gets >> which is nine days from now. Is it going

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to be on the agenda for them to like I would would you want to do that by the 30th because something might happen they might defer or something it doesn't get on there like >> right I mean like we'll we'll touch we have to touch base and have to to see if whatever passed by the county I'd like to see it by the 30th so when we do have

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the agenda published May 5th I would have you know all everybody gets a copy of whatever we need to get >> presuming that the county actually has it available correct to us they're sometimes >> a little slow so if we end up with a one or two day window there. That may be

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difficult, but we will absolutely check with them and and make sure that we get what they have. >> Procedural question. What happens to what I proposed as an amendment? >> It's already it's already included. >> Sorry. >> Yeah. Yeah. We're incorporated. >> We're dealing with the amended.

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>> It is. Yes. But it is it is tabled after that amendment has been accepted. >> So, do I have a motion in a second to table? Defer >> to defer >> defer >> to to next to next meeting. >> Yes. >> Motion. I >> have a motion, a second. All in favor

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say I. I. >> Next item on the agenda, >> Mr. Mayor. >> Yes. >> I'd like to be recorded as a yes vote for the consent agenda items. >> I I wasn't uh here when they were voted on. >> Thank you. >> I was Yes, >> madam clerk, if you would so record Commissioner Flor.

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>> No, yes, sir. Pet sales >> the dog. >> Yep. >> I introduced the dog. >> Item 11.2, Two. Ordinance number 2026-06.

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Second reading uh amending pet sales sponsored by Commissioner Smith. An ordinance of the mayor and city commission of the city of North Miami Beach, Florida. Amending chapter six of the city of North Miami Beach code of ordinances animals and fowl. section six 6-9 restrictions on retail pet sales and

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pet mills to clarify exemptions enhance regulations and enforcement providing for conflict severability codification and for an effective date and let me note commissioner that the only change in what's handed out was the amendment

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that you made to delete uh I think it was number five under part B that was the amendment that you did last time and uh that's the Only difference is to reflect that in what's in front of you. There is no other change.

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>> Okay. >> And mayor, I think that the commissioner, I guess, gets to speak first as the sponsor. >> Well, this is the second reading. Commissioner Smith, do you have any issues? >> You have the floor, Commissioner. >> Pardon me. >> You have any issues regarding your

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second read? >> You have the floor to speak in favor of your item. No, I I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Thank you all for bringing me back. I'm trying to see because I got two 112s and you just explained what it was because I

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didn't understand why we were having a second one. >> It was just that one item. >> All right. So, um the only thing I want to say is today at the hospital, they brought a they brought a therapy dog and everybody on the floor went crazy. We

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have to protect these animals because they protect us. So, I appreciate all of your support on this. Thank you very much. >> Motion to approve. >> Do I have >> I make the motion to approve? >> Second. >> Madam Clerk, can you do a roll call? >> Commissioner Shernoff?

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>> Yes. >> Commissioner Flormon? >> Yes. >> Commissioner Jean? >> Yes. >> Commissioner Smith? >> Yes. >> Commissioner Sue? >> Yes. >> Vice Mayor Smuckler? >> Yes. >> Mayor Michael Joseph? >> Yes. >> It passes. >> All right. Next item is uh first uh 11.3

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first reading sign order. Do I have a motion to introduce? >> Motion to introduce. >> Second. >> All right. Item 11.3 ordinance number 2026-05. First reading sign code ordinance sponsored by Commissioner Sue. An

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ordinance of the mayor and city commission of the city of North Miami Beach, Florida. Amending North Miami Beach sign code as to political signs. shortening the time to remove signs post election and increasing the amount of the signed bond providing conflict severability codification and for an effective date. I do want to note that

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there is a uh memo uh from our our office that went out on this. Um there is some troubling case law uh that deals with the regulation of non-commercial signs and the essence of that case law

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uh as put together by one of my partners Skip Miller is that the Supreme Court has said that non-commercial signs that is not you know buy a mattress or or shop at my restaurant should all be

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treated the same. That means if it's a sign relating to a religious institution, if it's a sign relating to some kind of a nonprofit organization, or political signs which are non-commercial, they should all be

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treated the same. Now, frankly, in this South Florida community, that's not the general practice. Um, what we were asked to do, we have a sign code. We were asked to make a couple of changes to conform it in a couple of

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regards to what Aventura does. They have seven days to remove them and it's a slightly higher signed bond. Aventur does it frankly most local cities do it the same way. They regulate political

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signs. They do regulate political signs differently than other non-commercial signs. Um, and we're only talking about political science in the context of

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an election, something that's on the ballot, whether it be a candidate or whether it be a um a referendum item of some kind. Uh, you cannot regulate other kinds of political

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signs at all. I mean, if somebody wants to have a sign that says bring home the hostages or or legalize marijuana or something like that, that's free speech and they have a right to do that unless it impacts public health and safety. We

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really have no right to reg to regulate those. But what is being proposed here and what we have in the books and what most of the neighboring communities have uh may not represent strict compliance with Supreme

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Court guidance on it. Uh, frankly, I don't know that anybody is going to challenge that because it's what most communities do and I consider it relatively low risk because if somebody actually did challenge it and we had to

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amend the ordinance to tr you know not be able to regulate political signs separately but regulate them the same way that other non-commercial signs u were regulated. We could do that pretty quickly and pretty effectively and not

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incur much of a substantial penalty. I just have to note for the record though that there is at least at least what appears to be a technical non-compliance because if it were to come up I wouldn't want you to think, gee, I thought we

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were bulletproof on this. That's not quite the case. But I do consider it to be an acceptable level of risk because so many communities around us do exactly the same thing. So I just wanted to note that for the record. >> Madam clerk, since it's first reading,

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can you open up the floor for public com? >> If you'd like to speak on this item, please come forward. Uh that would be law of the jungle that have lived. >> Okay. I just wanted to say also to include something when people put their

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campaign sign >> Karen Herald NMBB resident if people put their campaign sign on your property without permission. >> Mayor if I might. >> Uh okay. No one can put something on

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your property without your permission. If they do, now again, we may not know who did it, but it doesn't matter who placed it there. If it's on your property without your permission, um, you can report it, but you can also just

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pick it up and throw it in the trash. Something that's on your property without your permission does not have a right to be on your property without your permission and you may remove it. >> Okay. We have also some homes that are vacational homes like people only come

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down certain months of the year. So they have a sign stuck there that they didn't put there. There's nobody to see it, no one to remove it. If there's anything that can be added in there about discouraging or not putting it on, I don't there's nothing to stop them. No one to stop them. So people think they're voting for this person when they

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were illegally put there. So >> mayor, if I might, >> anyone who believes that, you know, somebody who's renting out a vacation home indicates that that's their preference is is foolish, but people are allowed to be foolish. Um, again, the

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right belongs to the owner. And unless it's a violation in some other way of our sign code, too big, too garish, you know, something like that that's not within the regulations that we have, the it we can't remove things that are on

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private property except at the direction of their owner. Now the there should be records as to you know through the property appraiser and otherwise of ownership and if certainly if somebody you know contacts the owner wherever

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they are there's supposed to be contact information and if the owner says I want it removed then they can have it removed if it's their choice but we cannot presume to act for an absent owner

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because the absent owner may have authorized Okay. I mean, I just know this last year, the last election down 10th Avenue, you see somebody, the same person, put a sign, sign, sign, sign, sign. Somebody went around. I have video of them doing my yard and they did it on many other yards. So, okay. Thank you.

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>> If Well, if you find somebody who's trespassing on your property and you can identify who did it, you can report that to the police. Trespassing is >> they have more important things to do. Okay. Thank you. >> Next speaker.

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Kazan. Um, as a resident who've been taking part in elections for many years, I have problems with people putting the signs on their swailes. Unswell. I think it's illegal.

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It's also um illegal for when you put down your signs, other people come in ripping it up. I think the police should the North Miami Beach Police Department should be investing in remote cameras because we

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need to catch some of these culprits and and the fines should be really heavy that so heavy that they would never do it again. um where you can like listen to the candidates speak

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as to where they're losing their signs and you put up some of those cameras about there to catch the culprits because we can't be doing this thing here over and over. And there's um then they leave the signs up after the

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elections. I I I know the um the mayor is guilty of that. He had his sign up on on the school fence even though we spoke to him, sent mails to him. He refused to remove it.

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I mean, if you're going to be creating record um laws and you don't want to abide with it, there's a problem. It's lawlessness that needs to be taken care of. Um,

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people shouldn't be threatening you to abide with the law. The law is for everyone. It's not for some, not, you know, skip and and these sort of things. Create the law

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and follow the law yourself and make the city a better place. You know, it's not a king we elected. A king wouldn't have to remove their signs. You're an elected official and you

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should abide by the laws that you make. Thank you very much for having me. Good evening, Terrence Camuli, Sunray West. I think the $500 is way too low.

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Being on the code board and speaking to all these code enforcement officers over the past 15 years, 10 to 15 years, their time is money. There are many, many signs. Last

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election there was over 15,000 signs is what I was told by code enforcement officers that they keep taking down, being put back up, taking down because they're illegal. Putting back up.

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They're not getting fined. They all they can do is take them down. I think a higher um than $500 should be out there for these candidates that uh don't want to follow the law

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in swelles on uh private property multiple signs on the same property on commercial properties. This is something that I've been a person who's spoken out against this

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over the last 1015 years myself being in on a corner house and I usually don't put up signs. I've never really okayed signs because of my wife's uh beliefs. So, it's something that I think should be more than $500 for a uh for amount.

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Thank you. >> Any more speakers? Any other speakers? >> Public comment is closed. >> All right. Um, we go. >> Sorry.

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>> Yes. Um, there are some people also that they're running against your name, please. >> Oh, again. Um, Maria Maria Hawk. So

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like um if Miss uh Daniela Jean put her sign in my house, somebody that is running against her go and take it and throw it

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throw it away. I have seen that I am not saying yours. I'm just making example uh taking you as an example. But um I really don't like that. You see there's when I vote for that person

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and that is for it it that work for almost everybody when they see that somebody want out so hard there's when people alinate to both for

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that person. So if any of you want to keep doing that, you are welcome, but just keep in mind that. Thank you. Anyone else, >> Mr. Mayor? >> All right, seeing public comments close. Um, Commissioners

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Sue, right? >> Okay. Um, so I I think like in the last election cycle when I was running, um, I'm, you know, I was everybody made sure that I

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picked up my signs from all the homes and everywhere else. I mean, we're hearing a lot of things that I I know a lot of people are dealing with, whether it be like, you know, uh, a ghost planter into a home that has no one there. Sometimes they just put it there and like you know hope that the other

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person would take it out or the owner would take it out and um some a lot of times like the owners feel like you know they don't want to do that because they don't want to offend the candidate. So you know but they're like unhappy and then of course like let's say they're supporting me and there's another candidate running for the same seat. So

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they just kind of feel awkward about it sometimes like you know some people would just take it out if they didn't allow or give permission to a candidate. So there's a lot of things around that and I think like there's there's bordering between like campaign signs, the length of time that it's on. This is

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strictly to address the time that it's on the time that the signs are up in our city property. I mean in our city boundaries. So, and if it's not, then you know, I mean, like if what TC said just now about 15,000 signs, if you can

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imagine our code enforcement personnel going to pick up 15,000 signs, this is a problem. So, and I agree if that is the case, 500 is definitely too low. Now, um there were Okay, so there's no

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permission. There's um in the public right away there is uh also removing other people's signs. I think removing comes into the category of trespassing. Is that correct, Mr. Attorney? >> It depends. If it's on someone's private

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property, it's trespassing. >> Um >> my understanding of our laws is you're not permitted to place them on swailes, >> right? Um although in some places like in Aventura there is some limited ability to place some signs on public

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property. They do allow it. For instance um at the library there were signs that were allowed to be placed there although there are some regulations about whether they're unaccompanied signs. Right. >> But swelles right of way in this city I

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believe are not allowed. But it's not trespassing. It's a different violation. Trespassing is only if you're going on private property. >> Got it. Okay. Thank you. So, I I'm I want to open up this discussion because we've all ran for office before and uh I

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just want to hear what your thoughts are, >> Mr. Mayor. This is a slippery slope we're trying to go down. And I want to say that because sitting on the council for as long as I have, in the past, there was a mayor in

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a wheelchair, and not the last mayor, the one before it, who totally blew our sign ordinance out of the water and called it his right and because of federal was allowed to do that and then our sign ordinance was

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put. So no matter what we put together, it can be challenged and I mean like to your point, Commissioner Cherno, sorry, I'm a little bit cho

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because how do you deal with the the presidential stuff or the federal stuff? Like we're going to like take down some of them. Hey, give us the money. Is I don't know how we're going to deal with that. But like I I understand there's a >> with what? there's there's a there might be a need for it. I just want to know

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how you're gonna deal with like federal campaigns, state campaigns. >> Um, mayor and also, let me say again, county, >> I talked about the free speech aspects that >> are not as strict when you're talking

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about signs related to a campaign, right? But when you start talking about if you increase the I mean we're kind of in with other cities with our amount but if you were to start to have drastically higher fines

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>> you would draw complaints that you were violating political free speech which is core speech if it was done if the fines became so high that it was actually prohibiting people from getting their message out. That's the kind of thing that can take us being in the middle of

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the pack with all the other cities and having a little bit of safety. We start sticking out then that's going to d that's going to likely to draw a lawsuit. >> I'm not done. >> The the problem is that for many many

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years we had the regulation of a four 4 by8 signs allowed in the city of North Miami Beach. And you put up a $500 fine for all those years. Bond. >> Bond. Bond. >> Bond. Bond. I'm sorry. Bond. A bond.

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Right now, we have zero bond, >> right? >> And no limit on the number of signs you want to put up. And >> large signs, there's a limit. >> Oh, 25 now. >> Right. >> Okay. But if somebody wants to put up 50, they can challenge us.

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>> And and again, we can put it regulations for as long as we want. And most 99% of the people will adhere to it. >> Yeah. >> But you're going to get that one person who's not going to adhere to it and doesn't care what your regulation is because they call it free speech and

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they hang their banner on that and the city attorney agrees with them and we can't do anything. That's what my concern. >> I want to mention something at the at the North Miami Beach Library

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when I ran four years ago. I remember we were not allowed to leave the signs out overnight. We had to collect them and >> North Miami Library. >> Aventur said North Miami Beach, right? Evanur, sorry. At the Aventur Library,

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which was a polling pl site as well, >> we were not allowed to leave the signs out overnight. And I believe during the day, we were not allowed to have more than two. I think it was >> planted. >> Planted. Yeah. I mean, they're doing it. >> Well, they have the regul I'm not saying

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they don't have the regulation and they're not enforcing it. But if somebody wants to fight it, they're not going to win, >> right? And they were actually enforcing it. Like if >> if they they were like when I would see them coming, I would like, you know, take for the other candidates that I was

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with like if there was more than two signs, I'd like put one down. So they were definitely enforcing it. but to com um to what the city attorney said that >> we would have to be somewhere in the middle of the pack to make it as enforceable as we can.

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>> Right. >> So, I just keep that he wants you to keep that in mind. I don't know if >> No, thank you. Um so, I I just want to address like when you were mentioning like the presidential campaigns. >> I'm sorry. So, I wanted to address the the concern that we have with other

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campaigns that are not North Miami Beach candidates. I remember that I was um I was pointing out that uh a state representative candidate had like 50 signs there um or I mean like whatever he had and then um the code enforcement

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came in and told me that no he paid the bond. You cannot plant your signs in here until you put a bond up and in early voting for Aventura. So I ended up holding all of my signs and then we had people there who were also holding signs. So that's how it happened. And I

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think that like they're very strict. They drive I mean we've seen code enforcement from Aventura come over to that library like multiple times and they every time they come they pull out a sign and they put it in their you know in their truck bed. So um I think that

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um I think it kind of that's that's just the enforcement side of it. We're we're now looking into what is the what is the way that we could keep our city in order before election, during election, and after election. That's my concern

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because I feel like, you know, code enforcement, we we have very few personnel already, right? There's a lot of things to do. There's a lot of uh things that they could be focusing on versus like, you know, trying to get a bond back or would collect signs from people. I mean like during that time I

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remember the wind was really strong so some of the big signs flew out of their you know their stakes in the ground and they had to go retrieve it and put it back and you know there's a lot of things. So I just wanted to make sure that like our city is in order. We're not having the election signs like

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bother you know residents and be a be a nuisance. Okay. >> City attorney >> mayor. Let me just point out this resolution does two things. Excuse me. Proposed ordinance does two things. It shortens

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the time in our code to remove signs after an election. It's currently 10 and we were asked to conform it to Aventura which only gives seven. That's one of the two things this does shorten the

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time. The other is to increase the bond which although Commissioner Turnoff is correct that it was blown up completely our our code says 250. This raises it I believe to 500. Those are the only two things in front of you. Increasing the

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bond and reducing the time to remove them. So, if there's some other thoughts that people think they might want to do, which you know, again, your point, Mayor, what are we going to do if it's a presidential or senatorial campaign?

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It's a very good point, but we'll do another analysis if somebody has other um amendments, but the the two that the sponsor is seeking here are both to make

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things stricter and neither is to allow any wild west anything. They're just to tighten up the code and that's what's in front of you. So, you know, you could talk about it and maybe somebody will come back and want to do something

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differently, but for now, this is all that's being done and they're both to make things stricter. >> All right. This is it's first reading. So, Commissioner Smith, >> if I'm wrong, there's some there's another issuers, too. Madame Clerk,

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currently, what is the date that you could put up a yard sign if you're running for the November election? Not not before March 1st. >> So in March 1st you could put up a sign in the yard. >> That's what it says. Yes.

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>> Okay. >> That's correct. >> I I think that's too long. >> Way too long. Um people steal them. The wind blows them away. I think they become blight in the neighborhood. Uh it's more people run the more signs you

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see. Some people put four candidates in their in their front yard. And so I think that needs to be changed. Also, I'm trying to look for where it is that you can have um

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you can have 25 signs any side exceeding any size exceeding 616 square inches per sign. So

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we those signs can be made two different ways. The thing that's interesting is a lot of candidates put their signs in the county and I don't know if they got permission or they didn't get permission but the 25

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signs regulation is only for North Miami Beach and part of North Miami Beach happens to be in the county. So I think we should keep that in mind. I understand what Commissioner Turnoff is saying, but I think regulations are important. I think people that break the

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regulations, the public sees, and I think that they'll recognize that they're not adhering to what what the regulations are to be a good candidate. Commissioner Smith, I have to say to you, if somebody has lawfully

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opened a campaign account and they have wide latitude about when they can do that, even March 1st, if somebody opens their campaign account January because they want to start raising money

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and they want to start spending it by putting up signs, um, I'm not I I don't admit commit error from the deis. But I can tell you that we would have substantial

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issues defending a prohibition certainly if we wanted to just make it later for a short period of time. And I'll tell you right now, in a city the size of this, with close to 50,000 people saying that you can only have 25 signs

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for your campaign, >> 25 commercial, >> the big signs, big signs, >> you know, if you have contacted private property owners

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and they have given you permission to put a sign on their property and And the sign is not a danger to public health and safety. It's not loosely attached and could fly off in a storm or it's not blocking the triangle or sightelines or

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something in a city as big as this with as much commercial property as we have. >> With all respect, you're opening a Pandora's box. Yes, you're right. It could be sued. I understand what you're saying, but you didn't sit on this council when we went over and over the

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blight and the disfigurement of North Miami Beach with all those signs. That's why the regulation for 25 ft was started and 25 signs was started. The first year I ran, I knocked on a man's door.

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And it's very interesting because I didn't know him and he went and got me a check for $200. He liked the way I talked. He thanked me for running. He'd been there a long time. And about a week and a half later, I get a

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phone call from code enforcement. You're not allowed to have a banner sign, and you're certainly not to have it on a two-story commercial building by the railroad track. I said, I don't have a banner sign. He said, "You definitely do." I said,

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"Give me the address." The man went out and bought a banner sign and put it on his building. >> How embarrassing was it for me to tell the man he had to take down the sign he just paid for? >> Shouldn't have been enforcable against you. You didn't do it.

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>> I'm just telling you that the blight and and you know it's also code enforcements again who has the authority. And I'm going to tell you a story that's true. We put up our signs, our big signs, my

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husband's men, who had been with him for 50 years, and I get a phone call that they're one foot too too tall. They're only allowed to be six feet and they're seven. I made those men go back and change eight signs and dig that hole in

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the hot sun deeper. And they quit my husband 50 years because code enforcement called me. The code enforcement did not call when other people were on the fence of city property

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within the 100 ft of voting. And when I said to code enforcement, "When are you going to have those signs removed?" They said, "Above my pay grade." I said, "Get me your supervisor." I got a supervisor. When are you going to have the signs removed? He said, "Get me." He said, "Above my pay grade." So, you know,

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there's a lot of games that go I think a regulation is important so the public can see who follows a regulation and who doesn't. I really do. Commissioner Smith and and it was the then city manager

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that was allowing that to happen because um it was making your sign shorter because to go against you and allowing the other people's sign because that's who he wanted to win. So it was it was

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not so much the fault of the code. They were doing what the then city manager wanted to do because it was convenient for him to have certain people win and certain people lose. >> That's scary. >> Um

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>> but then look who it was. >> Gary, >> it's uh it's it's first reading. So um I'm willing to move move it forward because it is first reading and it does put us in conformity with other cities. Um so um

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>> Mr. Mayor, >> I was going to >> I was going to ask um would Commissioner Smith like to make any amendments to the ordinance? >> I the attorney and I disagree. He he knows law and I know the blight March for

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people to put up signs in March. I think the regulation should be the summer. That's my opinion. >> Okay. So, but like I said, it's first reading. Um I I'm Does somebody want to call in or

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>> Well, I mean, >> it's it's first reading. So, like uh >> All right. I I motion to approve. >> Okay. I have a motion and do I have a second? Second. >> Oh, did did you want to do amendment? >> I wanted to do an amendment. >> Okay. Make the sign requirement not before July 1st, July, August,

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September, October, November. Actually, what about qualifying? Like at at qualifying because that's when they can put the bond up. When is qualifying? When is qualifying? I think it's mid mid August or something like that. Like this. >> But I thought the bond you put the bond once you start putting signs. >> That's true.

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>> So it wouldn't be like when you qualify. It be like whenever you put the sign up. That would make it the most effective. >> What does everybody think? What do you want? June, July? >> I just want I just want a a constitutional challenge. Well, they

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have a constitutional challenge for any of it. I mean, we constitutional attorney look into those dates. Maybe what's more appropriate >> and then him come back like this is a first reading. So, can we just can we pass it as is for >> Wait, can we can we ask just real quick? You saw the Aventura. Did they have a

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start date or no? whenever the signs >> recall. >> I don't recall that they had a star date, but I will look because commissioner, you you had two specifics and I checked the two specifics. So, >> okay. Good. Can Why don't we explore the July ask the attorney to explore the

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July date and give us a pine on that and then um for now we're going to pass it as is. >> Okay. >> So, motion to approve. >> I have a motion and a second. Madam Clerk, can you do a roll call, please? >> Commissioner Florimmon, >> yes. Commissioner Jean, >> yes. >> Commissioner Smith, >> yes.

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>> Commissioner Sue, >> yes. >> Commissioner Shernoff, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Smarkler, >> yes. >> Mayor Michael Joseph, >> yes. >> It passes. >> 11.4. >> First reading. Yes. >> Motion. >> Do I have a Do I have someone to

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introduce, please? >> Introduce second. >> Okay. >> Item 11.4, 4 ordinance number 2026-07 first reading establishing community association registry uh sponsored by commissioner Sue ordinance the mayor and city commission of the city of North

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Miami Beach Florida GA-2-2026 community association registry amending chapter 14 entitled building and housing adding section section 14-13 community association registry establishing local requirements for registration for

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community associations with the city including enforcement provisions for enhanced transparency in alignment with Miami date county community association registry providing for codification conflict scriveners error severability and providing for an effective date this is first reading sponsored by

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commissioner s for public comment madam cler >> yes >> if you'd like to speak on this item please come forward >> no one has come forward >> all right comes back commissioner s >> thank you Mr. Mayor. So, um, this ordinance is is the condo ordinance. I

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mean, basically the state had passed a whole condo statute about reporting and transparency and whatnot. And, um, from I mean, I'm a condo dweller, so I live in a condo. I know the issues and the problems that we have. the fact that I

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had to invest an additional on top of whatever I purchased on my condo over $100,000 in assessments and repairs and you know getting the building reertified and all that. All of this is would not have been a problem for me had all the

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budgets and everything be searchable or be transparent. So, um with that said, uh I I I'm 100% behind this whole transparency. I think what it's going to do to north for North Miami Beach is it's going to make our properties more

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valuable because people will start to fall in line about all the reserves that they need to put in and make sure that their budget is tight, everything is spent and sourced and procured correctly and the transparency is definitely going to help our property values because

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currently the I'd say condos in in in Florida is rock bottom. We're the only state in the nation that is not allowed anything less than 10% down payment for a condo. So, it's

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either 10% or 25% down payment. And that is a big burden because people cannot afford that kind of down payment when they want to purchase a first home. So, with that said, like I I look forward to your approval to this. This is not going it's going to very minorly cost the city

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um in terms of um in terms of code enforcement meaning because they will have to check to see if the condo association has or has not registered. We have expanded the condo to HOAs. We have expan expanded this to co-ops and

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any any association related um uh entity in our city. So everything is searchable. It's going to be they only register once. They don't have to do things twice. We can search them from North M I mean from our city's website. Everything has been collaborated with

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the county. So that's 100% like we don't have to we don't have to add any more burden to our staff just for transparency sake. Now that um with that said, I just wanted to hear what everybody else had any input on that.

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>> Mr. Smith, >> thank you. So, I assume this is retroactive. Everybody had to sign up. The question is, how do we know? Because they already signed with the county. It's just the county collaborating their information with Miami with North Miami

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Beach. But if they don't sign up, if they're not transparent, what's the penalties, Mr. Attorney? Don't we want to put the penalties in this ordinance? Um, >> I think that the penalties are already

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established, not in New York. I read them. >> The county really preempts this area and the original contemplation of this ordinance has changed substantially based on the fact that the county adopted something

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and they really preempt the area. So it would be a problem for us to do something that is really different than what their scheme of enforcement they have asked us to cooperate with them. What's left of this

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ordinance since they've preempted is basically we're asking people in this city to do it and we're kind of like a a reporting mechanism to the county. They're policing the um

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unincorporated areas and we're >> providing that information for within our city limits for them to then proceed with enforcement. >> So if they do not if they do not register,

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the county gets the fine. That's the scheme that the county has enacted and we're basically kind of eyes and ears for the county here. >> So if it's a county regulation, why are we having an ordinance which becomes law

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which doesn't state what the counties finds would be >> I mean I'm trying sponsor as to >> I'm trying to understand. No, I was I I understood that we are enforcing it. That's the reason why we're passing this ordinance.

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>> It's not my understanding, Commissioner. I'll go back through with you and and sit. But I thought that when you look at the way the ordinance was revised, that's my understanding. We are in we can inspect, we can report, but basically my understanding is that we

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are reporting it to the county so that they can take action based on it. We're kind of being eyes and ears because there is concern that they might not look carefully enough at what's going on

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inside municipal limits. Um they may be looking to us to do that, but we can break that down. Again, it's first read. >> Well, let could we defer this until we find out what we're doing? I mean, if it's a county regulation and the county collects a fine and the county has a

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requirement, but we're making an ordinance to change our code. I'd like the ordinance to state what all the what it's what it's all about. We're we're change. Let's just I would make a motion to defer until we know. >> I'd second that, too. Yeah. Because I

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mean, I was under the impression 100% that we're enforcing it and that's the reason why the urgency of the having this done. Before you do, well, you can defer it. I mean, you might want to hear from community development. >> No. >> Oh, yeah. We should. >> But let's defer. Let's defer. Let's defer it. >> Okay. Yes, sir.

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>> We have a motion in a second. All in favor say I. >> I. >> All right. And community development will come back. >> Next item. >> We'll come back and I'll get with Mr. Ahmed and the department and we'll >> review that further and with the sponsor as well.

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>> Um 11:5. We need a motion there. Motion to introduce. Well, I can't you do it so well. >> Move to introduce resolution number R 2026-60

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authorizing a facility use agreement with Little Haiti FC Inc. >> Second. >> Yeah. >> Number 115, resolution number R2026-60, authorizing a facility use agreement with Little Haiti FC, Inc. sponsored by

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Commissioner Jean. Resolution the mayor and city commission of the city of North Miami Beach, Florida, approving and authorizing a facility use agreement with Little Haiti FC, Inc. authorizing the city manager designate to execute the agreement and utilize funds in an amount not to exceed $52,240

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from the community benefit youth sports account to support the first year of the program. Authorizing the city manager designated to do all things necessary to re to effectuate this resolution providing scriven service there's severability and providing for an effective date sponsored by commissioner

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Jean >> thank you so much um I I wanted to hear from the coach again what was your name >> JP >> JP call me JP >> coach JP um can you tell us a little bit I know you gave us in a nutshell what the program was the school so this is

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the school itself um the monthly charge for families is how much? >> $100 for twice a week. >> $100 for twice a week. So for a month roughly, this would be how much if they were to do twice? >> 100 $100 per month.

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>> $100 per month for twice a week. >> Twice a week. >> Okay. And and this is what you do full-time, correct? I mean, as it relates to the school, the the whole purpose is it's an academy, right? >> It's not an academy. That's why it's called School of Soccer. Uh it's a

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recreational program. Um right now we have at in Oakrove Park all the ages are playing recreational leagues. In Allen Park we have only under eight under 12 that we had the numbers to play this

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small league that we do with other clubs. We are trying to build a girls team but we didn't have enough girls to add to the league and the under 10. So we have classes from six to 12 years old. The

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girls we have older. Yeah. >> Thank you. >> And and one limitation of the program is that um I've been what happened. We started at Washington Park all before Yeah. all before the renovation

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>> and then um we had the opportunity to move to Allen Park when the football season was over. But the problem is when we go to Allen Park, which is a a better facility, a better field, big field, uh we were able to grow the program. But then when the

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when the football season starts, which is probably now in June, we have to move to. And then when we move to small and we've been trying to use uh Michon Park 2, but it's been very busy. Um and I was

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after Do do you have any more questions for me? >> That's all I have. So, currently the um Mr. Manager, theou is for which use which park usage >> or part? >> Um I'll call up the uh director of parks to answer that for you, Commissioner

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John. >> Uh good evening, Mr. Mayor, Vice Mayor, Commissioners, um everybody else on Adis. Uh good evening. Uh Andrew Plin, your parks and recreation director. Um the uh current site that the uh team is looking for that's uh in the facility

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agreement is Allen Park. >> Okay. And for example, for existing clubs like this one, how would you guys work through the schedule? >> So, uh it's very tight scheduling. Uh Mr. JP and his school is one of six

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other organizations that rent our fields throughout the throughout the city. So um as he says he has a program um it's a it's a rental agreement um along with other uh rental agreements that we have throughout and um providing space and working around our um our

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wellestablished Sunundevil football team and also our NMBB um baseball op well the also the baseball we have the Optimus club the Sunundevils and then we also have our NMBB baseball uh little league um so it's it's a obviously

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scheduling is a challenge for for um for all organizations. Everybody's fighting for the same time. Everybody wants the the peak 6 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. window. So um obviously scheduling um for for everyone is a challenge.

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>> Thank you. That's all questions I have. >> Mr. Manager through the mayor. Could I just ask Mr. Platkin a couple questions? >> Yes, please. >> So Mr. Platkin. >> Yes. When you add another, how much revenue do we get when they

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rent? >> Um, off the top of my head, I believe um JP would know this more than me, but he's probably around $896 to us a month. >> Okay. So, >> average. >> And you have six places that pay that?

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um depending on how often they rent and um the time frame that they rent. Uh it varies obviously, but uh he's uh he's consistent. Um like you said, twice a month uh it's been and and I think that averages close to around $800 $900 a

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month. >> And um the football starts the football season. So now you're going to add somebody else. How will they have an opportunity to use Allen Park? >> Commissioner, to be honest, they might not.

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>> Okay, >> that's why I believe he said that um uh sometimes we'll say hey, not hey, but uh this field is no longer available. However, we could move you over to let's say Ulita or somewhere else if you're

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interested. But um everybody knows going in that our priority has been always the Sunundevil football program and NMBB Little League. Uh they've been with us for >> So even if this is tonight and signed upon, they understand that it's not written in stone that there there'll be

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availability for >> I believe the agreements are monthly. >> Is that correct? >> Yeah. So when we rent it out, it's it's on a monthly basis. It's not guaranteed, but we try to go monthtomonth and try to accommodate as as best we can to all we can. >> No, but I'm talking in reference to this

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resolution. >> That resolution right there before you is um is year round. Um it's twice a week um for six months uh during the week and then it's twice a week uh during the week and one weekend

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day for the other six months. And I think that's working trying to work around the football program. >> But is there if there's not availability, are they going to get there twice a week or we're going to push somebody that's paying out? >> Uh if this somebody somebody will have

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to go because they'll they'll become the priority. >> So somebody that pay >> well somebody will have to relocate or or adjust I should say. I don't ever want to push somebody out, but u space is a premium and time frame is a premium. Um so they would have to adjust

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or or we'd have to look at other locations potentially. >> So this money would be coming from this money comes from a fund that has $70,000 that must be spent for sports. >> Youth sports. Yes, ma'am.

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>> Youth sports. So, is there other areas that we have a need that we as a commission would not be aware that there's a need for funds? I'm thinking the free swimming. I want every child to

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be able to swim. So, are we short on funds? In other words, does this money need to be spread a little different? >> Uh, that's uh for you all uh to decide. Um my team obviously this came a few

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months ago uh I went through Commissioner Jean when she when she was doing her um public arts um um resolution. Um and then we were looking for the the funds that the the the community developers um had uh uh

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agreed to and paid. And so a few months ago, I think it was three months ago, the resolution came and the money was moved to the proper place. So to be honest, my team um we haven't done the evaluation. It's only been a few months. Uh they've been f uh laser focused on uh

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on summer camp and usually about now or in a month is when we start focusing on uh next year's uh our youth sports uh programs um after school. Um but I'm sure you know I'm sure there's need. Um

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free swimming as you said is one. We've partnered with uh the zero drowning in Miami date county and the children's trust. So now we bring um our local elementary schools to during during um the school year to Victory Pool and we teach them how to swim for free. Uh it's

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a great program that you all um that you all passed. Um but during the summer uh when we do our swim lessons uh there is a fee to that. >> So I think this is very important to bring to our city.

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and the I made sure that it's for everyone. It's not just for the Haitian community, although the Haitian community are extreme, as they say, football, soccer, um, you know,

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advocates. But um the boy across the street for me uh a Jewish young gentleman goes to a private high school in Orlando somewhere because he wants to be a soccer player. >> Five hours a day

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>> playing soccer. So, >> um I just want to I want to make sure before $52,000 is put in a direction and believe in the project a th000%. But if we're going to turn down revenue for the

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city, then it's not a $52,000 grant. It becomes whatever we turn down also the grant becomes bigger. >> So, we really have to concentrate the the the central question here is

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what the city wants. if the city wants a a soccer program that will be entirely free or not >> to the community. Um, if the answer is yes, for example, how does the this $52,000

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will be used for the program and if other um schools would have the opportunity to show their program too because with this amount of money depending on the number of days you can you can do it can be lower than that.

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it's going to be free from for the residents and paid for uh non-residents. That's a different picture. So, if the city wants to have their own soccer team, that's what you have to decide.

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That's my my opinion. >> Uh how how is this money being distributed, Mr. Manager? The community benefit account is money that we receive from the developers for um use of different programs. We have two separate accounts. Art and public

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places which has $70,000 utilized to put art in public places. And we have $70,000 for the uh youth sports program which can be at the will of the city manager or the will of the city commission. >> No. But how is it being distributed? We

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write a check or they give us the bills. How how does it work? >> Um that um >> sent >> there was a discussion um in parks. Uh there was a discussion in parks about a reimbursement program and there was also a discussion about uh paying the money

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upfront in in full. >> I think Mr. Pat Santangelo is here. He can speak to that if you like. >> Yes, for sure. We would love to hear from you. >> Do you have questions for him? >> No. She asked would he like to say

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anything? Would you like this? >> Yes, commissioners. Uh, we originally started in Little Haiti. Last year, we started in the city of North Miami with identical program that we're asking to do here. Right now in North Miami, we

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have 250 kids registered playing uh their field. Uh, we use Ben Franklin Park there and they're able to give us that park basically six days a week because they believe in the program. Uh we um again it's it's not just

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recreational, it's it's a it's a whole lifestyle for these children and we take them um we have we put them we're part of what's called Florida Youth Soccer Association which is the highest level of soccer. All our coaches have um

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workman's compensation. They have d, you know, background checks. You know, it's we've been doing this for 12 years now. And again, the children don't just come on Saturdays and then you don't see them anymore. We have these kids, you know, even if they're not there every day,

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they're calling us every day. So, we're handling issues with immigration, um, with school problems. We monitor their schoolwork every day. Um, it's it's a whole it's a whole lifestyle for these kids. So, North Miami Beach or Franklin Park, if you went by there, you

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know, 5:00 Monday to Thursday or Saturday morning and watched them play, you'll see us is a it's a worldclass organization. The president of FIFA, Giani Infantino, heard about our program. He talks about

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little Haiti FC on his stump speech around the United States when he's trying to encourage local cities like this to provide the children in their community with free youth soccer because he believes the United States is missing out on a lot of talent. So this is the

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only program where any kid can come by and play soccer if they're good. We had a girl play in the World Cup in 223 2023 for the Haitian national team. Naomi Ambros was a part of Little Haiti FC. So if the kids in North Miami Beach have

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the talent, they can go all the way to the World Cup. And >> let me ask you, you play now in Washington Park. >> Excuse me, ma'am. >> Do you play in Washington Park? >> Do we play Washington Park? >> No. >> We have um I don't remember them

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specifically. He's saying that you haven't. But why why can't they >> haven't >> you haven't >> Oh, no. No. We've never played in uh the city of North Miami Beach. >> And and my biggest question is twofold. One is how does the money work? Would

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you turn in your receipts and then they would pay whatever you whatever you paid or whatever you owe, we would pay the bills. Now, the way we work at in Miami and North Miami in North Miami is basically we give we we show you the budget, okay, which the city manager

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has. Um, and basically that money is just for coaching uniforms. The board of directors, Little Haiti FC, which is made up of educators. In fact, the dean of students at JFK Middle School is a president of Little Haiti FC. That's how how we keep track of all the grades and

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everything. The kids can't get away from us. Okay. Um the the uh dean of students at Miami Edison High School is on our board. Um I have a degree in secondary education from UMass. So we watched education. The most the thing we're proudest of is that every kid in this

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program graduated high school and most of them went to college. Taking this high-risk population and having a track record like this is what gets us attention almost worldwide because nobody's doing this. And so my last question is if you couldn't have Allen

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Park, would you for one or two of the sessions, let's say in the busiest time of the year, go to another park so that they don't lose the revenue for the city. >> Our agreement is whatever the the parks director and the city manager allows us

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to play wherever it is, we're grateful for that. >> So is that the way it's written, Mr. Plankin? so that you understand it. What? >> Yes, ma'am. That's the way it's written. >> That's the way Yes, ma'am. >> Okay.

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I I have some questions. >> Well, can you ask that? Sorry. Can can you repeat what uh the >> what they're saying is because everybody wants Allen Park and let's say they have a tournament that they're in the middle they're the end of their tournament and they won Allen Park because it's a

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bigger regulation field rather than lose the revenue of $900 to the city that I asked him would he move to a smaller field for that time so that one of the paying

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>> soccer teams and he said he would. >> Yes. What we do in the city of North Miami and Miami, we we do that. We when when um Ben Franklin Park is busy, we play in Little Haiti. And and Little Haiti is called Little Haiti Warriors

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FC. North Miami is North Miami Warriors FC. North Miami Beach will be North Miami Beach Warriors FC. The kids who are good will play on the competitive team and go to tournaments and travel and all that. the kids that want to want want to learn the game, we take

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everybody who comes and we teach them the game. We want to start in North Miami Beach with U8 and U10 right off. Okay? Because most people will tell you, and I think the other soccer people will agree, you need to get these kids when they're five, six, seven years old in

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order to get them if they are going to have the potential of becoming uh you know, college scholarships and professional players. >> Okay. I want >> Oh, yeah. >> All right. So, um

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why can't we give money to let's say the PAL program that has a sports program or to the summer camp sports programs? >> Which one? >> The summer camps have I think have sport

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or at least they may not have a sport program but they have sports. Um, why can't we give money to the baseball little league? >> Yeah, but I'm saying so what I'm trying to say is that I' I

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since we're such a diverse community, I'd like to spread the wealth. I would like Mr. um Santangelo to have some I would like m uh Mr. Castro, is that your JP? I would like to him to have some.

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I'd love to give to PAL. They have a sports program. I'd love to um put some into the summer camp so they can do some sports. I'd love to give some more if we if we give a ready to the the uh NMBB

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little league. We there's a swimming at the schools. I don't know if we're allowed to give at the school to the schools, but or is it to it's us that have the this the sharks, the barracudas or something? Is that us or is that >> That's us. >> That's us. I would love to give um you

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know there there's so many different um groups of people that could benefit from all the different programs from every um

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every religion, every ethnicity, every um everything that I that that I actually um said before that we should include Um, so I personally I would like to spread the wealth. I would like to see

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this money given to several organizations. >> That's it. Oh, wait. And one more thing. Why can't we use Mishan Park? >> Um, we currently have a management agreement with Mishon Park and um

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they've invested uh the soccer development group. They've invested millions of dollars in um at Mishon Park. We can do other sports there, but I would um I have a hard time um unless directed by the city manager, I have a hard time bringing in competition to uh

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an organization that's been uh very good to the city and a partner with the city and has has invested um in the city uh with a soccer uh with a uh uh La Liga soccer program. >> Okay. So, um, and they they have, uh,

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management agreement rights for, uh, >> which company again that has management? >> It's a soccer development group. The ones that have the, um, the artificial turfs on the south side, uh, it's called La Liga, but the the group's name is the soccer development group.

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>> And, and to the clerk for item 11.4, I had stepped out, but um, my vote is yes to table it. Thank you. And um okay, I have >> I mean vice mayor mayor >> um commissioner Sue. >> Thank you so much. Okay. Um we were

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talking about Mishkon. So yes, I I through the manager I'd like to ask uh the director a question about Bokeh soccer. >> That's La Liga. >> Okay. So all those six fields and the artificial turf, they're all under >> No, the the six fields are under their

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umbrella. The main one is is ours. Um, and we do charge them when they they're one of the ones that we do charge as well when they use our our big field. >> Okay. And and the six fields are are accessible to us or no? Are they rented like permanent?

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>> The six fields they they control um we could have access we can request but they they control those fields. >> Oh, okay. And if we we wanted to rent that out like that we can't do that because it would be a subleting. Is that >> Yeah, it's it's Yeah, it's it's their

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management right to Yeah, they would allow us if we had a program or we wanted to uh use it for for a particular reason um they would be more than accommodating to uh to work with us. Um but um it's their management right to

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run and operate those six fields. So, the one with the astro turf, that's the one that we can't touch. >> Or I mean, we we cannot >> Yeah, the Well, they're they're all they're all synthetic uh turfs, but you're talking about the the one big football/ baseball field. That is ours

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to manage. >> Ours to manage. >> Ours to manage. Yes. >> Okay. So, we could rent it out. We could use it if we need to. >> That would be at uh the city manager's direction. Like I said, I I have a hard time bringing competition

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in front of uh in the same park that uh uh they've provided us millions of dollars, built those fields, and have the the exclusive right to run those six uh fields. Um and then, you know, but now we do rentals like uh

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the the the soccer team from the high school will rent it out like one time like rentals we'll do, but not like a consistent program. Sorry, just to to add, >> madame vice mayor, may can he >> Yes, please. No, >> just to add an information about this.

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Yeah. Uh >> can you hear me? The competition uh on that field uh I was there for the whole 2022 >> using I was renting Wednesdays and Fridays one of the small turf fields before the renovation of Mission Park.

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And then the guy that runs the place called me one night and say, "JP, you have to leave." And I say, "What? You have overnight? I have a practice tomorrow." And yeah, you have to leave. But why? Because the owner of Atletico

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de Madrid doesn't want competition here. And according to him, he had a contract with the city and I had to leave. So that's I I understand this um hard or to bring competition there. So, um, but

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they do they don't use every day. They they were using Mondays, Tuesdays, and Thursdays. I was renting Wednesdays and Fridays. And nobody wants Fridays because the parents don't want to go Friday nights to bring the kids. And I

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took it I took the space. Uh actually he was uh doing a better price because of that time of the the week but I had to leave overnight and then just as a funny story I told him I'm tomorrow I'm going to do the class anyways. So I went there, we

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transpassed, I have to say we went to Mission Park and I gave the class there because I wouldn't tell my parents that I would not give the it was the end of the month but overnight it was very very

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disrespectful and fortunately from there after we were kicked out we went to Oak Grove Park which has a excellent facility. The program grew so much there that the parents of North Miami Beach asked, "Why don't you open a a program

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in North Miami Beach, too?" And we did that because and and at the beginning, the pro program was successful because the kids I couldn't uh accommodate in Oakrove Park came to um North to Washington Park. We started in

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Washington Park. Uh so yeah, I I just wanted to add that I I understand there was this contract with Atléico. >> Okay. Thank you. So I'm going to continue. I I agree with uh Commissioner Smuckler, I mean sorry, Vice Mayor Smuckler um about spreading the love

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around for different sports, uh different groups. I think that um I mean I know it's a FIFA year, you know, we're all excited about soccer this year because of the World Cup, but um all in all I think like then I hear there's like more than two. Like first it's like

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oh there's one okay great now there's two and then no there's actually eight. I don't know so many different ones. So like we would love to encourage and I think the center of it all is I want to share that um I this is what I spoke to

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the manager the manager said oh you sound like the director. So the point is that I think that residents who have children they bring their ID they register how many kids they have what are their kids' names register get vouchers they can go

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play wherever they want and then like we can reimburse that. I don't know if we have the manpower to do that. But I mean, I'm just saying that I think if it's if we're focusing on our residents, then we focus on the residents and have the residents come in, they could be

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apply online, and then they could say, you know what, we're going to go to this program, that program, and at the end of the month, we clear the bill, you know, the um the vendors bring in their vouchers and and get reimbursed. I I I'm just making that up like on the spot. So

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that's that's what I'm thinking is like we financially NMBBI is not like you know we're not thrown around money. So what we want really want to do is we want to spend it wisely and we want to support

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like I've heard you know the single moms that came up raising one two three kids I don't know um you know I I could imagine how hard it is during this time. So, if there's anything that that we can encourage them to do, something healthy, not sit in front of a TV screen or a an

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iPad or an iPhone and they could go out and play sports and learn sportsmanship and, you know, make friends. I mean, I'm all for it. So, however they learn it, whether it's through soccer, whether it's through baseball, basketball, I don't know, whatever, you know, American

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football, like just have fun. Like, I I'm I'm all for that. So that's that's my take on it and thank you very much >> Commissioner Florand. >> Thank you. >> Um to Mr. Santangelo, the the question I

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have for you is as far as two sets for 60 players, is there a particular reason why you have a certain number of players um in your budget? Is is there a particular reason behind that or >> Yes. Yeah. Because

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again, this is a free program. This is this will be you will be one of two cities in the state of Florida that are offering every child in your city the chance to play a game that's considered paytoplay. So there's hundreds of kids

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in this city right now waiting for us to start the registration which will be on the city of North Miami Beach website and the city of North Miami Beach can see the addresses of everybody who they're registering and you will be

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restricting well it's up to you but I believe you will be restricting this to children who live in the city of North Miami Beach. So right now there's hundreds of kids watching the kids in these other programs playing from the sidelines because their

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families cannot afford to let them play. >> So what okay so I guess the question and and I appreciate the response. Um so you're saying basically the demand is is really high period and so this number here is to try to address as much of the

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demand as possible. It's not necessarily that there has to be a certain number of players per team, etc., etc., or this is your model in the other cities. The other cities may have more more children that are part of those programs, right? >> Yes. We any kid that any child that registers, we take.

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>> Okay. >> All right. So, right now, this budget is for 60 children total. >> Right now, we're trying to do U8, U10. We're modeling this after North Miami because we just did this in the last year. We're in our 12th month now. So,

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we actually made the mistake of of going all the way up to U16 and we got through we got by. But to do it right, we want to start with you >> um eight and U10. But now probably the

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the 52,000 is not even going to be enough for them. But we do outside fundraising right now. In about a week, you're going to hear a big announcement from FIFA in the the Miami World Cup host committee. Little Haiti FC is one

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of two organizations in Miami that got money from the World Remediation Fund. So, FIFA recognizes this program as one of the best in the world. And that money is for women's program to specialize. There's a a lack of um opportunities for

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women to play this sport. So, we're going to spe have a specialized women's program and we're going to have afterchool programs paid for by FIFA and we're going to have conquer calf train coaches in this program. Uh, it's it's

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it's a it's a nod from the soccer world that this is a model program for the United States of America. >> Got it. Okay. So aside from that, I see in the uh agreement we we've been referencing only Allen Park, but I see in the agreement it also says Ulita. Can

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can you provide some insight uh into that? Um Andy, >> uh Allen Park is the preferred location uh that the organization has requested. um if we need to, we have to do what we have to do, but Allen Park has been uh

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their preferred um location for the program. >> So, what what what are you saying in the agreement? Are you saying that because right now based on what it what it reads, it almost seems as if that non-exclusive right is for both parks. I

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we we want to put that in the agreement in case obviously we have uh situations where it's just not possible with all the demand that we have that uh that it is in the agreement that we can uh you know shift you over here for a short term or however it is until uh we can get you back to the the preferred

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location. >> Okay. Thank you for the response. The reason I'm asking this is because even if and I know this not this item is not about another team, right? But even let's say for instance as a result of this team being given priority at Allen Park, this other team has to then start

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to figure out what they're going to do, right? Ulita to me would have been that option that they can utilize >> outside of Allen Park. But now if we have both Allen Park and Ulita, it's really putting them in a position where

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they don't know where they're going to be able to play in at all. Period. they they really don't have that that ability to say, "Okay, well, we're moving this program to Allen Park." And then whatever those kids are that whoever those kids are in the North Miami Beach program that he currently runs, all of a

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sudden they have no place to play. Is that what is that what I'm understanding to be the case? >> Yes. >> Again, we go back to the question. I don't know what the city wants with the >> So, specifically, >> I don't I don't know. First, I don't

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know the project. >> Well, here's what I'm saying. Okay, so the conversation I'm having is not about the city putting out an RFP for a soccer program. That's not the conversation I'm having. >> Right. But the conversation asking me if I'm going to have to leave or if it's going to be harder for me to to have a space. I don't know. I don't know what

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the city will decide. So, I I don't have >> Well, that's that's the reason why we're having this conversation. >> But also depends on frequency. That depends on frequency and scheduling as well. on this >> but the but the point I'm trying to make is ve very simply if there's an agreement right you don't have an

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agreement right now you you basically pay as you go right is that my understanding >> yes because >> I asked for the agreement but the city never did a long-term agreement >> okay right now you're paying as you go >> now now there is this option I didn't know there was this option my

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>> my point being here is that you now you guys are now considering have a soccer program with a contract with a long-term contract at least one year and I would like to have the opportunity to present my program too. You guys are going with

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one way without hearing other options without hearing a program that has been here in the in the area for four years. That's my my point. That's why I came here. So for you, for you,

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your resolve is to have your plan be heard in comparison to the plan that we have in front of us. >> You you guys didn't have the opportunity to hear from some someone else. >> Okay. I don't want to I don't want to I'm I'm I'm I'm not certain that there

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we we're not do this is not an RFP process. We we this is something that's within my understanding. if the attorneys can speak to it. There's nothing necessarily requiring us to go out to bid for something like this. Um where's the sorry

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>> assistant city manager? >> Uh to the mayor, I can take a note for the manager and then respond uh when when he comes in. >> You can what? >> I take a note on on the question. >> No, by the time he comes here, he'll be able to respond himself. Oh, okay. >> So, we just need somebody to come here and make, you know, like

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>> Yes. >> Manager. >> Thank you. >> So, the question, Mr. Manager, is >> Yes, sir. >> Um, we're we're hearing um JP, >> we're hearing his point of view. >> My question was more along the lines of if we do uh an agreement with Little

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Haiti FC that they won't have a place to play, right? Yes. So my concern was, okay, well, in this agreement, let's just put Allen Park so that way this team can have the opportunity to use Ulita. Yes. And not be competing for those sites with Little Haiti FC. His

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point is he wants to have a comparison between the two programs to see what the city wants to do. I I don't think that this is a city initiative, per se. This is an organization that came with a plan that would like some city funding for the program to be specifically within

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the city of North Miami Beach. Is that correct? >> No, sir. >> Or is this a city program that would >> This would be a 100% city funded program. We are covering the cost of the field. We're covering the cost of the uniforms. We're covering the cost of the staff. Um, this would be

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a city initiative. >> Okay. That's >> But but What like how was it that he was chosen and not someone else? >> This is a sponsored item which all of

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you have the options to do >> to bring a to bring an item and um have majority votes make a selection. >> Can I make a comment, Mr. Mayor? So, this was a process that for three years we've been trying different city

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managers have heard about it. So this is not something that came together this year. This was 3 years ago um through what little Haiti FC is doing in city of Miami and what they were doing. I spoke about this to the previous managers,

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right? And so we brought the proposal forward because they've been doing the work in the community. Um to your point as it relates to free programming versus subsidized programming, that's a different conversation, right? because currently your program is still very

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affordable but not necessarily free. So your model isn't free per se, right? their model is totally free with subsidized support but also to your point like you said hey if there's an opportunity for us to be considered I

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know some of my colleagues mentioned um sharing the wealth and I know that we can always make an earmark for different programs be it the pool I know we we provide PAL maybe $100,000 a year for

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their entire fleet of of services as well as the after school program through the children's trust. So even if there is a desire for there to be an earmark for pool, an earmark for whatever have you, there is funds within that any commissioner can say, "Hey, I would like

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a $5,000 earmark for for pool um swimming lessons or whatever the case may be. But I did want to highlight that this particular um initiative was something that was brought forth about three years ago for consideration to the city manager because it was a facility

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use use agreement for for a free program. So it's still a facility agreement for for a program. However, they're asking for a subsidy. That's the difference there. >> So So um so I'm I'm supportive of this

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program. So I want that to be clear. My my main concern was where are your kids going to play if they have an agreement for both Julita and uh that was my main >> But you do realize that >> I have an answer. We're going to we're going to be out JP. If if you you do

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realize that if we were to subsidize him or anybody else in this room that the kids would be for free. It's not that it's exclusively for free because of him. It's it's for free because of the subsidy we're giving. No, of course I understand. I completely understand that

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and I'm not saying that. >> I wanted to add to Vice Mayor's point. Like for example, we supply funds to uh the baseball. I can't speak for the baseball for the but for um the football program. They still charge their their kids to participate in Sunundevils.

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Sunundevils is not free just because we subsidize it. >> We they still charge. >> So maybe if we gave them money then it would be for free. So who >> but what I'm saying is that they still have a registration fee and so forth because their program is not a free program like this that like this program

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>> but if we gave money then it could be a free program. >> So here so here's here's so no what she's saying is we do give money and they still charge >> because they may not have enough to cover it but if we gave more then you know everybody if they have any

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organization if they had enough money they could be able to do it for free. Could I if they were May I remind you guys that the total fund for youth sports is 70 grand. This is 52, >> right? That's >> Well, I mean that that'll be up to the commission to make that determination,

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right? >> No, what I'm saying is absolutely it's going to be free. You see what I mean? Like if we were subsidizing by kid, so he said he charges $100 a month. How many kids can we sponsor in a year? Like that would be a lot more. So,

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let me just focus on the the the agreement. I I think that it should just state Allen Park and not Ulita. Uh because I just want to make sure that if there is an issue with, you know, their ability to play at Allen Park that

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they're not also, you know, in limbo when it comes to using >> No, I I hear what you're saying, Commissioner. >> Saying that >> that's the exact opposite. saying that he's saying that he's putting a field that they're allotted to and he may have to move them. >> Yeah, that's

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>> No, no. What I'm saying is Little Haiti FC right now has in their agreement both parks. >> Perfect. >> Why is that perfect when these these people may not have a place to play? >> They want to play in Allen Park, too. So, if they want to play their tournament in Allen Park, then this

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group will move over to Ul if you take it out. >> Is that what you're saying? >> Yes. Seems like to me that they're always in limbo based on what >> I'm saying. We wanted we wanted to make sure there were there were options. And as far as limbo uh commissioner, when NMBB Little League uh ramps up, they're

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going to be at Ulita playing their uh baseball games um um there as well as you know they play at Mishkan as well um and sometimes at Allen. So >> I wanted to give some flexibility that I need to shuffle them around with our

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current like uh NB little league and uh and the football. Um adding additional that are you know you want to make mainstream and all the time that is extremely tough and challenging to schedule when everybody wants the same

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time frame. You only have so much field space um to give. Um, so I cannot stand here and promise that, okay, they're at Allen, you can have Ulita. I I can't >> I can't do that. I can say there'll be

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times >> um but I can't say you can have Ulita for a, you know, for a a a full-time commitment um for this program that's that's been brought up that's been been working on. It's still challenging for us to get them two nights a week at Allen Park, but we're gonna, you know,

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have to find a way or have that flexibility to shift them when we need to uh to Ulita. >> So, I don't know if that answers your question, but >> No, I appreciate the answer. >> The um scheduling is is challenging. >> Got it. Thank you. >> I have I have a question, please. One

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more question. What What are you going to do the second year? Because we're in we're there's a lot of things coming down our pike. a lot. If we give you the money for the first year or the majority of the first year where you'll raise some other funds,

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we're coming down some real financial challenges, not only with our water plant, but also with the taxes, with the revenue coming in and the costs going up. So, what do you if we can't give anything? I remember when you first came, if I was correct, Commissioner uh

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Jean, is that you wanted $10,000 for this program. So, I remember asking before for$10,000. Now, we found the 70,000 that has to be spent on sports. And like they pointed out, the majority of the money will go to one program when

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there's so many in need. >> But let's say it's done because I learned a lot of new things tonight that I wasn't aware of. for instance, this that there are plenty of programs and they pay and we're going to lose them because we won't have the field. So all

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this has to be taken into consideration. So if there's no funds the second year, what's going to happen to the program? Well, every year we have these challenges in the city of Miami. We've been there 12 years and we have these challenges every year. So we just

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overcome it. So whatever way we have to do it, we get it done. So right now in North Miami, we have recurring revenue because we work with Redwood Development that's doing the 28 acre Claude Pepper Park. So they give us 50,000 a year for 10 years. They just gave us a second

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50,000 this afternoon actually. Okay. City of Miami, uh the mayor's office gave us a h 100,000. Mayor Suarez left us that gift as he was leaving office. Um and uh like FIFA has given us 250,000

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to do different programs. But so when your kids are in the soccer program here, we're also going to be putting together after school programs, tutoring programs, we do programs for the families, we help them with the immigration, we help them with

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everything because we have access to the parents. Sometimes the social workers really would like to offer services but the people who need the services may not know about it. Like for instance, your city might give free income tax preparation but the people who need the

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free income tax preparation never even find out about it. So the unique pro part of our program over the years is that we're able to it's a holistic program. You saw our parents our parents are totally involved in this program. This is not you kick the ball around on

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Saturdays. And I I applaud the program, these pe this program, too, because the children in his program, he's reducing their chance of being involved in things that are not good for children. So, I think there's there's um there's room

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for everybody. I don't I'm not going to say my program is better than his. I don't really understand his I don't know his program. It might it might be better than ours. I don't know. All I can tell you is our program probably every kid that you see on that pitch when we start this in a few weeks or whenever the city

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lets us start it if we get approved here. You can put a bet right now that all those kids are going to grad graduate high school. What other even your PAL program you can't say that. Okay, we're not just talking. Well done

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is better than well said. That's what Ben Franklin said many years ago. So we have a track record. So you can look at all the kids that were in this program in the last 12 years. Most of them went to either Edison High School or North Miami High School. We have 20 kids in the program right now that take city

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buses to Miami to train with us because there's no program here. Um but the difference that's the difference in our program really. these kids, you know, like they do the FCAT and they predict how many kids are going to how many prisons are going to build by how many

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kids failed the third grade FCAT reading. Okay, it's a good indication. Take our kids on the field and probably his kids too. Chances are they're going to graduate high school and chances are they're going to at least maybe make make it to middle class. Without him,

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without us, the children don't really have too much of a shot if their parents can't afford to pay for them to play this sport. >> No, I understand exactly. I understand exactly what you said and I think your program is well worth the money, probably worth double and triple what

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the money is. So, it has nothing to do with the validation of your program or what you do for the children or what the value will be for the city. It's a question of you have $70,000. What percentage do you give to one entity and the other entities that may

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need it won't be able to get any? So that's the question we're trying to figure out. And the bigger thing, the bigger picture is I do like what he said that it'll be North Miami Beach residents. I think that that should be a key issue being it's their revenue that

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we're spending for the program. I think that's a very key issue that we should call the questions. >> Yeah. I I I just want to say I'm going to share the the wealth and and the love and um I want to share with all of you.

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So yes, I was going to say call the question. So let's do this. >> All in favor say I. I. >> I oppose. >> Any oppose? >> I oppose. >> Okay. >> Wait, did we add I want to make sure we add that it's North Beach resident. >> Yes, it is. It is. It's in the

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agreement. So, it's um um >> Oh, so it is North Miami. >> Why are you shaking? Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Why are you shaking your head? No, >> I'm sorry. I don't I don't recall it. It's in front of you. I don't recall that it specifically says North Miami residents only. >> Okay. I I make an amendment that'll be

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>> Whoa, whoa, whoa. Okay, wait. We voted on something that I believe pass um maybe 52. Now we have a consideration. >> I was on the winning side. I'd like to make amendment. How would because they want to add an additional caveat to that

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particular um approval. How would you advise to to go about the the proper way? City attorney. >> Okay. So, um I second her motion. What was the vote? >> Who? >> I think it was 52. There was um Commissioner Sue and Vice Mayor that voted against it.

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>> Okay. >> Yes. >> Commissioner. >> Yes. >> So now now the So >> I'm recalling >> and I'm and I second it. Now we vote to bring it back. Is that >> just to bring it back?

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>> All in favor say I. >> I. I. Any oppose? Okay. >> I oppose. >> Okay. >> Oh, bring it back. Oh, that's fine. >> And now I'd like to make an amendment to that the the requirement be North Miami Beach res. >> Do I have a second on the for North Miami Beach resident?

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>> And Mr. Platin, it's a one-year contract. It's a one year. >> The the contract is uh is multiple years, but the funding is only one time. >> That's fine. >> One year. That's fine. >> Okay. So, um Commissioner um Smith said um to her amendment. >> Wait, so hold on. So then if it's

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multiple years then um I think somebody said there were six other six teams in total. All the other six teams will not have access to these parks now. >> So there are six other organizations.

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I'm not saying they're specific to soccer the uh other sports. Um but there are six other uh organizations that rent from us. Um, I'm not going to say they won't have access, but we we we shuffle, we challenge, we we find space when we

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find space. I, um, some of them might not be soccer and they're they're at Mishcon. Um, some might be soccer and we move them over to Allen or or um, Ulita. Uh, it just depends. I don't have that off the top of my head, but uh, we will do every thing we can to accommodate as

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much as we can with the space that we have. >> Okay. Okay. As a so as a >> mayor, excuse me. I'm sorry to interrupt, but it just notified the clerk. My previous uh answer to your question. My mic was not on. I apologize. Okay. The answer was that uh

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it was a 5 to2 vote with um uh Vice Mayor and Commissioner Sue dissenting. Therefore, Commissioner Smith was on the prevailing side and she was privileged to move for reconsideration. And then just for the record to complete it, that motion was made by Commissioner Smith.

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It was second and voted on. passed. So the item is now back in front of you and now >> and and just so we can get the u the amendment out of the way so we can vote all so we have a motion and a second on the amendment to say to for for North Miami Beach residents exclusively,

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right? >> All in favor I apologize, Mr. Mayor. I didn't I don't want you to vote and come back cuz I don't know if we ever got direction or if we wanted to give direction on how that money is spent, whether it's a um give them the check or uh have it be reimburseable. I know that

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was brought up and I wanted to make sure that uh that was either considered or not. Can >> pass this amendment first and then we'll work on that. >> Yes, sir. >> So, all in favor on the amendment for exclus for exclusivity for our res for enemy residents. All in favor say I. I. Okay. Now is to your point the um to the

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parks director's point. Does anybody want to add any additional amendments based on what he said? >> I just want to be very clear as to the term of the agreement >> um those the the term of the agreement starts April 1st until September 30th. So what you're saying is the first

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assessive two years um is going to be approved by city staff. It doesn't have to come up come come before us for that two-year period. >> Correct. >> Because it says the city That's That's correct. >> Wait. So 6 months for 52,000. Is that what we're talking about?

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>> The first term is one year. >> No. No. Okay. So what? No. What I'm saying is the term of the agreement, the usage of the facility >> is all I'm talking about right now. >> It says April 1 to September 30th. >> Yes. What? I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Mr. Manager. Um that's just to get them to

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the fiscal uh to the fiscal year because we like to do all our contracts uh starting October 1 through September 30th. So that was just getting them to the first year, but yes, it's a city city manager um extends the contract. >> So then there's four years subsequent to

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that. There's four years, two two-year terms followed by another two-year term. What I'm asking is when you use the word the city, are you saying that staff is going to approve this and doesn't have to come back to the commission? >> Correct. >> Okay, that's I just wanted to be clear on that. >> You're going to have to come back. Did

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you say or you said correct the vote? It doesn't come back to us for approval of that next two-year term is what I'm >> But does it come >> but does it come back to us for the funds of the money from the >> Yes, the funds will

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>> No, it doesn't have to because it's under $50,000. >> It's 52. >> No, but it could be un under 50,000 to keep the program going to 49 and it could be just a manager's call. >> All I was focused on was the facility use agreement. I just wanted to make

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sure this is not something that's coming back to the commission that the next two years followed by the following subsequent two years is totally up to management not the commission. >> Correct. >> Thank you. >> And and just like we've given exclusivity to the soccer bokeh people

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now we're giving exclusivity to another group and little by little we're going to be giving exclusivities to all these groups and the little groups will not be able to do anything. Just saying. >> All right. So, regarding the payment issue, parks director,

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>> I I'd like to speak a little bit about this. >> Oh, okay. No, I just Does anybody So, he No. Um, >> about the payment. I understand >> you want to talk about that issue. >> I want to talk about that and yes, >> Commissioner Sue. >> Okay. Thank you. So, um,

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>> okay. Um, I like I said, I wanted to remind everyone that we have $70,000 and we're spending 52 on this one sport, one group. And we have a coach here. We don't know whose program is better, but we're not

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even taking that into consideration. And whatever his students are, they pay their $100 or $50 for one time a week or $100 for two times a week. And then we just let it go. But this this one we're going to have it cannibalize every other

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program that maybe the parents like. And I'm saying that I'm not saying that one is better than the other, but obviously like you know I choose this blue, she chose another blue. Like we have different likings and we're not giving our residents a choice. We are now

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pigeonholding them saying, you know what, here's a program $52,000. The city's going to pay for it out of 70 grand. And we give the parents zero choice. Are we here for the residents or are we here for

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special interest? >> We're giving them free >> soccer. >> Right. What if the parents don't want to go to the program and they want to go to the program? >> Exactly. But then they have to pay. But we're giving free to people who want to go. >> Commissioner Sue. >> Right. And then there are people who may

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not want to go. Commissioner Sue, if you listen to what we just went through for the last half hour, 45 minutes, >> it's not just a soccer program. That's the difference. It's a free program with education,

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with help wherever you may need it in your home, whatever help you need, seven days a week. Whereas the other soccer pro program that we heard, he absolutely may deserve some of the 18,000 we have

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left. Why not? But this is a full program, the way I understood it, that includes these children to make sure they graduate from high school, to make sure that their home life is secure, and to make sure that they develop as a

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upstanding person, as an adult. And it's all free, and it's a one-year program that the money happened to be found. If not, we were going to probably give them $10,000.

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So, they're getting an extra $32,000 or $42,000. And let's let's see what the one program does for a year. It obviously is going to be very minority, financial minority people that are in a

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certain group that can't afford to send their children to anything. They can't afford the hundred. Now, one man said he pays $50 and it's $100. So, I don't know how he gets a discount, but it's a $100 that he charges. The thing I don't want

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him punished, the thing that I want to make sure that staff understands, and I hope if we have to vote on it, staff, because we don't vote on things and it doesn't come through, but I want to make sure people that pay to use Allen Park are not thrown aside for a program that

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we're giving for free. So, so you know what? Then we should give the money to Pal because PAL makes sure the kids stay off the street. Pal gives the money. It won't be it'll be for free. Everything that you said, Commissioner Smith, Pal can do as well.

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>> We asked the man I asked the manager earlier. This is not new. I asked the manager to a make sure they're prepared to tell me who else needs the money. >> I asked to make sure they tell me tonight who else needs the money. I'm suggesting PAL PA Pal also receive kids

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from all across. So PAL doesn't turn away any any child. So they take kids from different neighboring cities. Each city has their own PAL, but every PAL doesn't turn away kids per se. Meaning this program would be um Germaine to North Miami Beach. Mr. manager. I also

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wanted to ask about um the developers that had access that had offered profer profered for other projects and making sure that we can recover some of the other um I I know there was 85,000 earmark for the library. There was different things that we have yet to get

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back from from the promised the promises made. So if the community development department can make an effort to recover so that if other commissioners and when other commissioners bring forth earmarks that we have because there is there are funds available

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>> m and I want to ask Mr. Manager while you're answering her question do we give PAL 100,000 >> I'd have to u through the mayor to commissioner Smith I'd have to look into uh the budget item for the fiscal year 2526 to see if that's

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Oh, I'll call up the police chief. >> Good evening. So, the uh the PAL budget uh for this fiscal year is 77,200. >> How many are in that? How many kids are in your PAL program? You know, >> I don't have it off hand, but we have several programs throughout the year. We have basketball,

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um, football, cheerleading, a dance. So, it's several programs. We charge the parents $50 for each program. And sometimes, some cases the parents can't afford it. We pay for them. >> Can Can we allow exclusivity there to

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say we have so much money that we can give only to NMBB residents? >> It's on a case- by case basis, >> right? But I'm saying we we could do that, right? Like >> we could do that. Yes. Yes.

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>> All right. Well, I would like to give to PAL because PAL is um a a wonderful organization that um I know helps kids and keeps kids out of trouble. Um I don't sorry Pat I don't know

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anything about your organization. Nobody has reached out to me and um I and I don't know anything about Mr. I don't know anything about I don't even know much about soccer period, but um I know about PAL and um I I like to put my

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money where I know is safe and that I know is a good cause. So I'm I'm again I'm not going to vote for it because I think we need to share the wealth and the love. >> All right. So because of >> I understand. I mean I I I'm proposing

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an amendment. How about we do 30 grand for this uh this contract? >> All right. So, you Okay. >> Yeah. I'm proposing like we we we get >> That's your motion. Do you

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>> There's a motion on the table, too. >> Well, there is but like we have a current motion, but she wants to add add an additional motion. Let's see. We we'll be able to do that. So, uh Commissioner Sue has a motion. Do we have a second? So wait before you >> she wants she wants she wants to reduce the and and the rest go to goes where?

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>> No, she just wants just reduce it. >> Just reduce and we can decide on >> Okay. So is there a motion and a second? >> I'll second it. >> All right. >> No, don't vote. >> Discussion, >> Mr. Sant Pat.

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>> How how well could you operate the program on 30,000? The question is, can we drop the amount of >> to reduce? There's a motion on the floor and a second to reduce the amount distributed to 30,000. >> No, we couldn't do that. That would 52

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would be the bare minimum and we're probably going to have to raise a lot more money to add on top of that to make this a wonderful program that everybody in the whole city can be proud of and it'll be a model for everybody. >> Okay, so that's the standard. So, that being said, let's vote on the amendment

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as presented. All in favor say I. >> I. >> Okay. >> Wait, wait, wait. As as a wait for the red >> for reducing reducing the >> No, you have to vote on the amendment. >> Oh, on the amend on on the amendment meaning that the reduction that's being um profered by commission.

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>> The amendment was to add the the resident. >> No, no, no, no, no, no, no. We're going we're going to resolve this issue. We're going to Yeah. No. We're going to resolve this issue. You're >> saying, >> okay, you get what I'm saying? So, we have an we have a motion by Commissioner Sue, seconded by Vice Mayor to reduce the amount of money for the um that's

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going to be offered to this particular program. All right. All in favor say I. >> I. >> To reduce the money. >> I to 30,000. >> Oh my. >> Okay. I'm going to restate it, please. There is currently a motion pending that says costs for 52,000 and and some odd

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dollars >> and it is by it has been amended. It's been it's been limited to North Miami Beach >> residents only. There is now an amendmented >> to change a new amendment to change the

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allocation from the 52 and and change I think to $30,000. That is the amendment before you. >> Okay. That's what we're voting on just to be clear. Okay. >> All right. So, we got a motion by

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Commissioner Sue. All in favor of reducing the amount say yes. All in fa I'm sorry >> mic is all in favor of reducing the amount vote yes. All opposed to reducing the amount and leaving it at 52 vote no.

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>> Okay. All in favor as pres as as pointed out to the as pointed by city attorney say yes. >> Yes. >> Any oppose? >> Opposed. >> Now we go back to the to the amended. I have a motion as well if you if you can consider that Mr. >> Okay. What is that motion?

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>> The on the term of the agreement. >> Okay. >> Um I I believe that the um the subsequent two-year term after 2028 should come back before the commission. Um

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so I'm making a motion that that subsequent term comes back before the commission. >> Uh the term that's supposed to start October 1, 2028. Meaning that we're going from 20 is it it's like on the second are you saying on the second year the second successive

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two-year term should come back before the commission. >> I'll second that. >> Okay. So we have just on the on the on for >> it's the usage and not funding, right? >> Yeah. The use like the term itself. >> Okay. >> Because we're only taking care of one year, >> right? So this would be for the >> it's the it's the contract. It's the

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agreement itself coming back. >> All right. >> Wait a minute. Wait a minute. the facility use agreement is what I'm saying. >> You want to you want to go through all this? >> No, because it's only about the facility use. >> It's about the facility use. >> The funding is only for >> I understand what he's saying. He just wants to like he doesn't want to leave it in the ether. He wants to be able to

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for it to come back. Okay, >> that's the positive vote is just to give it a try for one year and see what happens to >> one two-year period. One two-year period. One two-year period. >> It's one year of funding. That's it. >> Yes. Yes, >> ma'am. because if we don't have any

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money, we don't have any money or if the system doesn't look good, it doesn't look good. It's a I I'm voting yes to give it a one-year try. Now, >> let's be very clear. Let's be very clear, Mr. Mr. Attorney. The the funding is only for one year. >> Yes, sir. >> The funding and the usage of the facility are two different items.

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>> Yes, that's what I'm focused on now is the fun is the usage of the facility. >> That's what he's saying. So all I'm saying is in 2028 this comes back before the commission to decide whether or not they want to renew the facility use agreement with this organization.

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>> All right. So we have a motion and a second on that particular amendment. All in favor say yay. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Any oppose? >> Yes. >> One oppose. All right. Now, we're going

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to vote on the amended mot on the amended uh motion for this resolution. >> Can we can we do that voice again? >> You said yes. >> Yes. No, she said no. >> I said yes, but I was supposed to say

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no. Right. >> Oh, okay. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Okay. So, we're fine. You're fine. All right. All right. So, now we're going to vote on the resolution as amended. Right. So, let's go over the let's let's go over the amendments. Let's go over the amendments real quick. City attorney.

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>> I also need to talk about how >> if it's >> Sorry, I we also still need to pay about how we're going to pay this. Are we going to pay one lump sum or we going to have, you know, residents come in and get a voucher or whatever? >> Can we leave it up to the manager's

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discretion to figure that out? That's that would make more sense. The the motion currently, mayor, is to approve the facility use agreement uh to uh Little Haiti FC for a 2-year period, and

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as amended, there is a second two-year period that was agreed to. However, the amendment says that that now comes back to the commission for further consideration in in effect giving the

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commission the option to renew for the second two year period. In addition, the funding, I think, is for one year, but the facility agreement is for two-year, and that is what's sometimes called,

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it's a two-year agreement, but only the first year funding, and the rest is subject to budget and availability of funds. So, that's what's before you >> and the fact that it's inclusive to NB.

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So, as only North Miami Beach residents, you're correct, mate. >> So, so we'll leave it to the manager's discretion to figure the payment model, right? Do do we have to add that on there or it's already >> it's it unless there's a motion that

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dictates how that be done. >> I I it's a program that's just getting started. I would I would assume um Mr. Mr. Manager, if you have any other opinion um that we have agreed on the funding amount that we should provide that to the organization. >> Yeah. So, we'll leave it up to the

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manager's discretion. >> All right. >> Meaning the full amount. That's what I'm saying. >> Yes. >> Whatever that may be like. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Is that fine? So, but as amended, all in favor say I. I. Any oppose? >> Opposed.

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>> One opposed. Two opposed. Passes 52. Next item. >> All right. The next item is 11.6, resolution number R 2026-61, expressing disagreement and disapproval

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of resolution number R 2022-33 centuring commissioner Barbara Kramer. >> Second. >> Motion to introduce. >> Second. Please note that there is a revised

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slightly revised version of that that should be on your on your desks. Resolution number R2026-61 expressing disagreement and disapproval of resolution number R 2022-33 centuring commissioner Barbara Kramer uh

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sponsored by Vice Mayor Smuckler. Resolution of the mayor and city commission of the city of North Miami Beach, Florida, expressing disagreement and disapproval of resolution number R2022-33 providing for conflicts, providing for scriveners errors, providing for severability, and providing for an

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effective date. >> Motion to approve. >> Second. >> All right. Do we do public comment for this? >> Uh, no. Not an ordinance on first reading. >> All right. Um, >> I mean, anyone, just for the record,

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anyone with a comment that's been on the agenda, notwithstanding some very slight adjustments in the language, uh, anyone that wanted to be heard about it could have certainly done so during public comment. >> Oh, okay. All right. Does anybody on the deis wants to speak about it?

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>> Okay. So, do I >> Sorry, what' you say? >> I said, does anybody on the deis want to speak about it? >> Isn't So, there's no public comment on this? >> No. Again, for the record, there was an opportunity for public comment during the public comment section of the

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agenda. It doesn't this isn't first reading of an ordinance or a public hearing, but anybody who wanted to be heard had that opportunity. >> No, I I um I have a comment on this. you know, um so in pre in a couple years

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ago, I was one of the people who voted to um to uh censure Commissioner Kramer. And um you know, one of the reasons that I'm going to support this item is because I I feel like our community really needs to head in a different

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direction. Um, I believe that in hearing Commissioner Kramer's comments over the past couple of years, one of the things that um, she's made clear is that if she offended anyone, she has apologized. Uh, she's done that several times. Even

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a couple of weeks ago, she made that clear. Um, so you know, I believe that that is a good faith statement that she's made um that did not dismiss the feelings of those who may have felt offended at that time and I could

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appreciate that. So I think an effort to really move our community forward, uh, it's something that I'm willing to support today. And also as far as the process and procedure that we spoke about in our previous commission meeting, um, that's another reason why I'm willing to support this. Thank you.

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All right. Thank you. Anyone else would like to speak? No. Okay. Do um we can place a vote. >> Yes. It's a voice vote. >> Okay. So, all in favor? >> I >> I Any oppose?

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Passes 6. All right. The next item is 11.7. Resolution number R2026-62 expressing the desire of the city commission to recommend Mayor Michael Joseph for not reimbursing the city of

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North May Beach for the sum of $3,01.90 related to the travel upgrade. Motion to introduce. >> Second. >> Item 11.7, resolution number R2026-62,

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expressing the desire of the city commission to reprimand Mayor Michael Joseph for not reimbursing the city of North Miami Beach for the sum of $3,1.90 related to a travel upgrade sponsored by Vice Mayor Smuckler. A resolution of the

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mayor and city commission of the city of North Miami Beach, Florida, expressing the desire of the city commission to reprimand Mayor Michael Joseph for not reimbursing the city of North Miami Beach for the sum of $3,1.90

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related to a travel upgrade for Mayor Michael Joseph's travel for his September 14th through 19th, 2025 trip to Japan for a sister city's international programing for conflict. providing for scriveners errors, providing for severability, and

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providing for an effective date sponsored by Vice Mayor Smuggler. >> All right. So, I brought this forward because the city has been asking the mayor for, and I'm going to round it up by 10 cents, for

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$3,02 um for a travel upgrade. that that was never approved when the trip to Japan was approved or it is not something that the city has ever done, at least to my knowledge, has ever done in the past.

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So, um, Mayor Joseph, are you going to pay this back or is this >> Well, the the request was made on the 1st of April and then

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you made this um resolution for today. It was for 30 business days. This is relating to that OGO investigation. And I gave that initial request to my attorney who then says this can have further implications. I my

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attorney was responded with saying we can put the money in escrow because of my due process rights. And I said hey no problem. I have no problem putting money in escrow because I have no issues with that. But what I don't want is to make it seem like I'm admitting to something or that I I know I didn't do. And that's

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my only issue because the letter went out on the first and now and it said 30 days and now it's saying that this resolution is saying I refuse to pay but it I have that that hasn't even happened. >> Madame Vice Mayor, um is the gabble with you right now because this issue is

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concerning the mayor, right? >> Okay. So I think I think it's better that I keep the gabble. >> Yes. I I'm not I'm It's >> I'm not gonna handle Gaval. >> Please be in order. >> Excuse me. Please be in order. >> Well, I mean because because the mayor

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is the subject of this um this this >> But no, I'm I'm just I I need to explain because at the end of the day like the letter said 30 business days. It was issued on the first, >> right? But you were also asked prior. >> No, I was not. >> You were never asked by an employee to

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to >> No. No, I was not. No. >> Okay. >> I was not. >> Okay. >> Ask what? >> Ask what? >> Well, she asked the question. >> What was your question? >> She asked to repeat her question. >> My question is, was he ever asked

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verbally by an employee by anyone at at in city of North Miami Beach to pay it back? >> No, I was not. >> All right. The the point is that we we shouldn't have to ask you. You should just pay it back. And I don't

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think it needs to go into escrow. And I don't think it matters that this is um an issue of the investigation or not. Regardless, doesn't matter the outcome. >> It doesn't. But you're >> the money still needs to come back to

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us. Doesn't matter if the outcome says you're amazing. It doesn't matter if the outcome says you're awful. Either way, the money belongs to the city of North Miami Beach. And um I I don't I don't not sure why should we put an escro. Should just be

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paid to us. Either way, the money is ours. That's it. >> Commissioner Smith. Sorry. And I'll go to the Commission Turner. >> Commissioner Smith. >> Okay. Well, Mr. Mayor, I read it the same way. You

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haven't 30 days and 30 days are enough. However, Mr. Mayor, Mr. Attorney, I've been told by many people that it is a state law, maybe federal even, that you and it's in our charter

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that you have to when you travel, you have to travel the least expensive way. Is that a truth? That's oversimplified there. It's not as I don't find it as clear as that, but that's

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not really for me to decide. >> Okay. Well, the people that are attorneys that I've >> I'm authorized to make. >> I I I recognize you are city attorney, but the people I've spoken to have told me that is quite clear and it is the

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law. What I find to be unsettling, even though you have 30 days, what I find to be unsettling is you hear the rumble. You're not deaf. You have been out in the public. You hear the rumble

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of the disdain of spending $3,000, not 30, not 300, 3,000 on quite a luxury. If that's the case, what are we waiting for? >> I understand what your attorney wrote. I

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know how to read. And I understand that he said, "We'll put it in escrow. You still have to go through uh your right to investigation. At the same time, whatever the investigation says, if it's the law,

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which you're an attorney, you can check and see if it's the law that you cannot spend more than the least expensive way on a government trip, and you did, whether it was approved, you can't make somebody, which we'll never know, I'm

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not accusing you, will never know if somebody that put a stamp on their name, not signed it, felt their job was in jeopardy if they didn't put that stamp. We'll never know that. But now you'll know the law cuz you're an attorney and

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you'll recognize that that was something that maybe you shouldn't have done and the public definitely thinks you shouldn't have done. Pay it. Just pay it and let's be done with this conversation. Yeah. And I I just want to add that a

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few years ago I I I went on a I was the city paid for a flight for me and um coming back I I wasn't feeling well and turned out that I had COVID and unknowingly I got in a plane with CO but

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I wasn't feeling well and I upgraded it and it was like7 I think it was $75 $50 or $75 and because um because it was like on the app it wasn't letting me change the credit card. It was the city's credit card. So, I I paid it with

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the city's credit card to $75 without anyone asking me. I gave a check and and I'm saying 75, maybe it was 50. I don't want to be accused of lying. It was something around that much money. Um, without anyone asking me, I gave that

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check to the city. I I'm ass sure that I probably would have gotten away with it. I don't even think anybody would have ever asked me for it, but still it's not the right thing. It was only $75, but I paid that money back without being asked. So, there's a big difference

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between 75 and 3,000. >> To clarify, and I want I want to give you a historical background of how this happened. The trip was paid up in July for the the standard uh for the standard. It was paid um initially with

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the um they made the they made the arrangements through finance and they made that arrangement through finance. I myself used my AMX card to pay for the upgrade because of the long of the long haul 14 plus hours or whatever between

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soul between Atlanta and Soul. >> Yeah. >> Let me let me I just need to tell I'm just telling I pay that up front. So, it goes to um the end of the like end of the fiscal year around November, October. They said, "Mr. Mayor, we still haven't gotten your receipts from Japan. Can you provide that?" I'm like, "I have

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these receipts." Mind you, I've already paid for everything and what have you. And then they said, "Well, these are receipts." Then finance tells my aid basically saying like, "Because this is a 14-hour plus flight, you can possibly get this reimbured." I'm like, "Whatever you guys, here's the receipts and what

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have you." I get reimbursed. is not to say that I w I I I charged a city card or I charged it back I I I um back in um July on a city card. That never happened. I paid something. I found out that apparently there were rumblings that people were pissed off about it after the fact. And then saying that it

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was a criminal or could be considered ethically um could be considered a ethical breach. I get a letter on the 1st of April saying, "Hey, we want this." I before then I never got any type of demand from staff saying give us this give us give this money back.

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I gave that letter to my attorney because I don't want to I don't want to admit or infringe on my my due process rights. At the same time >> at the same time I have no issues let me be very clear. I have no issues paying. But what this says is that I'm being

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reprimanded for something that I didn't I I didn't I didn't uh intently do to defraud or do anything wrong. That's the issue for me. It's not saying, "Hey, Mr. Mayor, can you we would like you to pay this money back. Could you do that?" It doesn't say that. It says I'm being

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reprimanded making see like I did something wrong. >> Okay. So, excuse me. I'm sorry. Um I also want to wait. I just need to ask the manager before we continue. Mr. manager h has he was he in asked prior to April 1st? Was he asked to give back

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the money? >> Um not to my knowledge. >> Not to know. >> Um the procurement office stated that someone but she's not sure. >> Nobody told me >> who. >> Say that. I'm sorry. Say that again. >> Uh the procurement office said that um

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she's not sure who reached out. >> Nobody reached out. >> Yes. But we don't know. >> Correct. >> I'm I'm saying nobody reached out to me. >> Well, you would know if somebody reached out to you. >> Nobody reached out to me. Mr. Mayor, >> yes.

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>> Wait, I I'm sorry. >> No, I was I did. I reached out to you. >> You already had your first bite. >> I have not. >> No, Jay hasn't spoken. >> My apologies. I want to be >> we as commissioners and mayor know the policy of travel and the policy of

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travel is to travel the middle the what coach whatever it's called not in first class not th those kind of upgrades you paid it out of your pocket understand but then you let them ask for it to be

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reimbured you should have said No, >> that's you know it was wrong. >> But to be clear, they gave me I never even this I never even knew this existed. This is what they told me. They showed me the CFR saying it's 14 plus 14 plus hours on a flight.

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>> Can we have order from the audience, please? That the commission is debating this. There's not public comment here. Please be in order. I was told that because of the 14 hour plus and you can look and you can pretty much Google this because the county does

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this people that use GSA does this say if it's 14 plus hours then yes you can do that particular you can get that particular um upgrade reimburseed and that's why it happened because like they've there's there's been I I've submitted invoices that that are going back six months I haven't gotten paid

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back because I don't use the city card for anything I I pay upfront and I get reimbursed However, if you're if if the city were to say, "Hey, you know what? It's the will of commission, Mr. Mayor. Just pay it back without reprimand." I have no issue with that. But this is reprimanding. It's saying that I did

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something wrong. That's my only issue. >> But technically, you have >> But how? I didn't >> not paying it back. >> I wasn't. >> No, no, no. >> Okay. >> You did it in July and now we're

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>> April. They they paid it in um December 1st. >> I don't care when they paid it >> and they asked me for >> No, no, >> it's wrong no matter what. >> So, you should have not let them pay it and pay you back. >> That's That's what I'm saying.

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>> But they made >> because you knew that it was an upgrade to first class, which we don't pay for first class. >> It wasn't we don't get reimbured for that. >> But it's not it wasn't first. >> It was business. It was business class, >> but still I went on business. Business

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is amazing. Okay. Like you like you have a bed. All right. Like you have all the food you want. So it it's definitely you notice that it's an upgrade. >> My like I can I say one thing, please. If the issue is for me to write a check

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to to reimburse the city, I have no problem doing that. that I don't want because you cannot hold me in saying I did something wrong after the fact cuz I did I didn't app it it went through five levels of approvals and then I got a letter I got the letter on the 1st of

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April and we're on the 21st it said 30 business days >> but what's wrong is you still haven't paid it back what you're putting in escrow that's still not paying >> no I'm not saying that I said that if if the if the will of the commission is say hey pay pay the pay the money without the without without the um the reprimand

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as it I have no issue doing that. >> I make a motion that I can I speak, please? I'm on I'm on the microphone. I make a motion that we let Let Commissioner speak. >> Thank you so much. I've been raising my hand over and over. Thank you. Listen, I

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I I checked all the classes the cl the fair classes of your flight that was originally purchased through Delta. All of that was premium economy already. That means it is it leans farther, there's more leg room, it tilts, you

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know, back further. There's economy, there's comfort plus, and there's premium economy. So, your class purchased originally was already there. So, when you talk about the distance and the time that it takes to go to Japan, I

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have been traveling back and forth from Asia since I was the age of three years old. So, I'm over 54. So that's, you know, that's a long time traveling back and forth from Asia. So I understand the distance and the time. I understand your

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height, your, you know, the the demand for leg room, whatnot. Premium economy is plenty. And I think that that is what we would be willing to pay for. Meaning as as a city, I'm not the one who's only the only one who approved it.

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Originally, I didn't even want to approve this trip, period. Because what I found was we don't have a new sister city. We don't know what the mayor did when he was in Japan that the taxpayers are paying for a total of like over $9,000. And I'd like to know what that

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money has done and what had it had produced for the residents. But you know what the topic is not that I think that premium economy was plenty comfortable for a trip to Japan. And I think that this $3,000 should have not been put in

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for reimbursement from the in the first place. Whether it be business or first, I don't care. It's it's excessive luxury in traveling under the taxpayer dime. And that's what I'm requesting that we I I agree with this. I I also agree with

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reprimand, but I don't know if we don't reprimand whether we would get the same response. That would be my question. >> But that's uh that's my comment. Thank you. Commission Michael Michael when the agenda came out which was

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Thursday you should have put this thing behind you and paid it right then and there and that's where I see the problem is >> the state attorney has this I >> it doesn't matter >> no it it does >> not matter

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>> oh my god >> on the contrary you know if you paid you would look like a mench you would look good >> I have no >> I don't get it >> I have no as I pointed out I have no issue paying for it. I paid for it initially.

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What I don't want is for me to be considered to be admitting to a crime because basically what that what the what that report says is that I committed some type of fraud or I put some in undue influence to somebody and in approving it. >> It's not a crime.

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>> No, that's that's not that's not how it was explained by my council. I have no issue doing that. When I first got it on the actually when I first got when I first got the the letter on the second technically because it was issued on the first I got it on the second. I gave it a counsel or whatever. He said let me

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issue a response gave that option. Right. It's it's only been le it's only been what like um >> one day >> and today the day. >> So >> So are you paying before the end of the month? >> Yeah, I have no issue doing that. >> Okay. So are the question is are you

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going to pay before the end of the month? in escrow. >> No, I'm not I'm not saying that. >> No, that's what I'm asking. >> I'm asking you I would pay it. >> Okay. >> Escrow, but I don't want to be reprimanded. >> We understand what you want. Now, the question is the $3,000 being paid back to the city.

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>> Yes. >> Are you going to pay it? You were asked on April 1st with the 30-day window. Are you going to pay it by the 30th day? >> I'll pay by I'll I'll pay by the 30 on 30 days listed on on agreement. I have no issue with that. and without without escort >> without escro >> and and and

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if you don't pay it >> you you guys can rep because I'm that would mean that that's me lying any >> said he's paying it that's it thank you now >> the public and the rest of us we know that within nine days the money is going

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to be back to the city >> so we move on >> okay next item someone to >> Well, don't we have to like >> someone close this or vote?

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>> It we if I don't pay >> Okay. Motion motion to take >> motion to take. >> Okay. Wait. Just wait. Just can we clarify? All right. I'm based on the terms based on the based on the request of the letter, right? Based on the request of the letter, I'll pay it with before the expiration of the date.

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>> You get what I'm saying? >> Don't you pay it tomorrow? And so because of that, um, Commissioner Turnoff, you made a motion. >> No table. Second. >> All in favor say I. >> I. I. >> All right. >> What table is deferring it till next? >> Okay. If to to to be clear,

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>> if intent is to put it off one meeting, that is a motion to defer to a time certain >> table. I'm paying I'm I'm paying by the I'm paying to the term. >> Technically, it's a motion to defer to a time certain. As I said earlier in the meeting, >> he already said he's paying it. Why are you beating him over the head?

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>> No, we're not. And then if it if he does when he when when the mayor >> Commissioner Smith >> a motion to table though can be taken off the table at any time by a vote. >> There you go. >> So you don't it could be a motion to table.

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>> The point is if if the mayor happens to not pay then it will bring be brought up. If he does, then Commissioner I mean Vice Mayor Smuggler could just pull it. >> Well, I do have a I do that. Okay. >> Something could be on the table, Mr.

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Mayor, but with with all due respect, >> something could be on the table. If you table something, it doesn't mean it has to come back. >> It doesn't have to come back. That's what we just did. We taken off the table at any time. >> It's a motion. There's a right called a motion to lay on the table and then the

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reverse is a motion to take from the table >> and you can do that at any time. So that's what we we just tabled this item. That's what we say something. >> No, I was just trying to Well, one thing I would ask is that um I've been outside

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of this issue that now that we moving on because I want to add have another issue. Okay. And that the commission has real power in allowing this. I've been having real problems with getting the documents attached to this report. Algo

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Group is refusing to re release those documents, not not just to me, but to the state attorney. I'm asking, can we allow them to get those documents? >> No, because it it's it's it's >> No, it's a it's it's it's being

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investigated by the state attorney's office. No, no, but I have what I'm saying is that there's there's email correspondence that the state attorney, right? And and I and I don't know if you guys have have received a copy of that that they've you have not received the

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the the the cache the supporting documents attached to the report. They have not. when my attorney said, "Hey, we have a copy of this from the city uh from the state attorney," this correspondent saying that we never received this or what have you, and there's no um there's no state statute

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or anything that precludes you from releasing this. When he when that was pointed out to a group, they said, "No, it's it's our it's it's it's up to the city commission, and it's my advice that it doesn't get released." uh to the mayor. I'm on correspondence

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where they're confirming they're asking the uh state attorney's office to confirm receipt of the materials. >> I'm telling you, I've never I've never seen that. All I've seen is that the email correspondents from Tim Vandereson, the person in charge of public corruption. >> Yes.

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>> Saying that we've never received the supporting documentation attached to the to the >> I'm not on that correspondence. >> I I I can I can forward that on to you. I can forward that on to you tomorrow. >> Okay. >> And you'll see for yourself that the that they're refusing to release it. And if you if you're telling me that

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>> and furthermore, I'm on correspondence where they're saying that not only >> uh do they well they don't not confirm it. They haven't. But they're saying that they're also forwarding it to the sheriff sheriff's office. But they but but that hasn't that hasn't been done

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because the to to be clear if you look at the the transmitt of the report the initial report >> I was the one that gave the report it was never submitted by AGLO group or ALGO group >> at all report >> that's not my understanding based on the

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correspondence that I've been >> but what I'm saying is I guess you can get clarification >> yes sir >> because if that's the case then the material should be released right correct me or wrong >> um my understanding that explained to me, well, it wasn't explained to me the correspondence that I'm on between the state attorney's office and algo is that

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this is a criminal case and so the materials are not subject to public records request >> and and the state attorney saying state attorney has correspondence to that to that responded to that saying that's not the case. They're saying that it's not. >> So you have correspondence contrary >> from Tim Van Geson himself.

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>> Okay. >> Um saying that is not the case and I'll forward it to I hate to stick my nose into this frankly, but um there is a way to harmonize those two viewpoints without regard to the

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specific facts. There simply could be without regard to whether it's public record. There could be based on correspondence a decision where the commission votes to authorize

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the release of those documents to the state attorney's office. That's already been done through the mayor to the to the city attorney that's in the resolution. It actually directs them to do so, >> but they never to release the It directs

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them to submit all documents, all of their investigative materials, not only to the uh state attorney's office, but the Florida Commission on Ethics. >> If that's what it says, and I don't recall that language, but if it says all documents, then you're correct. Then it

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does not need anything further. >> So, if they haven't submitted, they're actually in violation of the resolution. >> They haven't they they without regard to factual without regard to a factual issue that

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cannot be resolved sitting here. If I I don't recall it as clearly, but if the city manager is correct and if it says that they are to release all documents to the state attorney's office, nothing further needs to be done. That's

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correct, Mr. Man. So if that clarification if that clarification gun is is is sufficient enough I guess you guys will let al to to do that like tomorrow. That's all I'm asking. >> Yes. If that's cor if based on what the mayor is saying uh through the mayor to the city attorney is it is then

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incumbent upon my office to reach out to all law firm to see if they're in compliance with the commission's resolution. >> That's all that's all I'm asking. >> That's what the resolution said originally. They should have complied with it and and yes sir I agree with what you said. >> Yes. You see, he doesn't bite.

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>> And that's regard without regard to any email correspondence from anybody to anybody if it's in the original resolution, the city manager is correct. >> Yeah. All so just so my own because like just for my own uh for for my own

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clarification moving forward, right? So all the supporting documents, everything that's attached to this report because they said they had stuff sealed somewhere will be transmitted uh or be will be told to Algo Group to release forth with. Right. Is that what we're is that is that to your um clarification,

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city attorney? The manager apparently has more clear recollection than me of what the reszo said, presuming that he is correct, and I always presume he is. Um then yes, as he said, he can follow up

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and make sure that what you already voted has been complied with by your contract. >> Okay. Can can we move forward because we can't even vote on this as commissioners. So um you can you can speak to him. He doesn't bite. No,

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>> you see how he he's even on your side. So no vice, I'm not saying I'm not saying I'm just saying >> I'm just glad that I got that clarification and that it's clear and everybody and that they're going to release it. You should also be able to talk to him in person about it. It's there's nothing. He doesn't bite and he

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doesn't um he's he's a good person and you >> I never said he I >> No, I know. But you you still haven't met with him and you should. That's all I'm going to say. Can we move forward to the next resolution, please? >> Um it's not a resol. >> Motion to introduce >> 11.8.

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>> What is 11.8? >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> Second. >> Second. >> Item 11.8. 8 resolution number R2026-63 approving a purchase order for Trenchless Rehabilitation Services through a piggyback contract with Insitu

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Form Technologies LLC sponsored by the city manager resolution the mayor and city commission of the city of North Miami Beach Florida approving purchase order for Trenchless Rehabilitation Services through a piggyback contract with Insitu form Technologies LLC and a

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budgeted amount not to exceed 1,498,300 $135. Authorizing the city manager designated all things necessary to effectuate this resolution. Providing for cons conflicts, providing for scrimage errors, providing for severability, and providing for an effective date

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sponsored by the city medic. >> Any discussion on this item? >> Move to approve. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I just wanted one question. the manager and I went over it, but on one page it says that it's for inspection, whereas the North Miami Beach Water Department

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desires to have CCTV inspection services performed to assess the condition of the sewer lines. And then on the next page, it says to purchase for 1.498 335,000.

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My question is, how did they know it was going to be $1.5 million if they haven't inspected it yet? So, the manager is saying, and maybe I misinterpreted it, that it's up to 1.5 million. I just don't I don't know if I'm understanding

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it, but >> it says not to exceed. >> Pardon me. >> It says not to exceed. >> No, I know. But why didn't they go to 3 million? They haven't inspected it yet. How did they know to stop it at 1.4 million? 1.5 million. That was my question. How does it work?

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>> Uh through the mayor to Commissioner Smith. It's actually that's the service. Um this is an inspection service. That's what CCTV is. >> So it's so I just want to understand what I'm voting for. So it's only for the service. The 1.49 million is only

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>> That's my understanding. Correct. >> Kame can answer it. >> So it's not not for repairs. believe the interim uh public works director is uh taken ill. >> Oh, this is public. Okay. So, we can invite the public utilities up to >> I just want to make a clear what we're

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voting on. >> Yeah. >> Good evening, mayor and commission through the manager and uh this is not only service just for the clarification. It's itemized proposal. Uh there on the attachment on the backup there is a

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proposal from the vendor that we're going to do the sewer lining about 13,000 linear feet of lining work and over 100,000 uh linear feet of inspection and cleaning on the pipe. So

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we identify up to 13,000 uh linear feet now to do the SW lining with trenchless technology and then the rest will be allocated to CCTV and inspect and clean the rest of the SW pipeline and if they identify further deficiency due to the

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age of the infrastructure as we propose to you all in the budget cycle in upcoming budget we will present that for the next year to continue this program to inspect and repair our sewer pipeline. >> So, they've already done some inspection. They know that they have to

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have certain >> the the 13,000 that's been identified is through a staff uh by uh condition assessment that we have and the data that we have. We identify the critical needs for repair. The rest we're going through the inspection to do cleaning.

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If we identify further issue, then we will allocate money for the lining. >> I got it. Thank you for clarifying that >> through the mayor. This is a technology called CIP cured in place. The reason it is trenchuous is that when these lines

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become broken or or leak or something like that, they can detect that there is a leak because water is being lost uh when it flows through. And what they do is they put a liner inside the pipe and

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heat it. And then instead of having to dig up the pipe and have the streets all torn up and and have the tremendous delay and expense, you just heat this inside and it provides a new safer clean

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way for the technology for the the water and other things to run through these pipes. That's what this is. and they identify the deficiencies through a number of ways but it has to be confirmed by the closed circuit TV

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because till then you're really mostly s I wouldn't say guessing but surmising is a better word. All right. So, all in favor say I. I. >> I. >> All right. Next item is um

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>> that concludes legislative. You >> move to item 13. Mayor, >> can we do um >> get the yes from >> motion to appoint? >> Can we can we do the appointments as collectives? >> Sure. >> Move to do all the appointments together >> through acclamation. Right. >> Second.

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>> All in favor say I. >> I. >> Uh 15.1 was deferred. Uh 15.2 vice mayor welcome. >> Okay. Thank you so much. Um so I have so many questions about what happened

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with this contract and u Mr. Manager you're the one going to be answering my questions or Okay. So um I have basically it's who, what, when, where, why, and how. Okay. But um I didn't make notes. So I'm going

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to start. Um, was there a circumvention of the city's purchasing authority and procurement process? >> Give me just a moment. Let me review the notes I have. >> Okay. All right. >> Yes. >> Okay.

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>> Do we know like why? Like >> I have a note here >> that in April 2025, the chief of staff Marley Monstein presented a proposal from Figures Communications uh to city manager Mario Diaz and city attorney Greenspoon Martyr with a request to place the item on the April

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2025 commission agenda at the direction of the mayor. At that time, no formal procurement process have been completed. Okay. Do you well you I don't think you were here but at least from feedback were

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were we happy with code red? >> I mean >> um code red is very common and utilized in um um many many cities um it's utilized in in the former city. So we had you know it does have some challenges but I think the reality is is

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that texting um for those that are in this space has come like a commodity. It's like salt. Uh whether you're gonna whatever brand salt you're purchasing is going to be about the same price because of the commonality of it which >> but do you know if we as a city were

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were happy with I mean just because they're a commonly used >> I have received no I did ask the um the chief um the uh the IT director did we have any challenges with code red and he said no.

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>> Okay. So, um, we were happy and paying $12,000 a year. And then we went to another company for four times the amount, actually more cuz we were told

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it was 48,000, but it was actually um more than that. It was um Oh, where did I write that down? Let me find it. But >> 52,000 >> 52,000 um Okay. So the effective date was upon

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execution which was July 25th, 2025 and will remain in effect through September 30, 2026, which is 14 months and 6 days. And um that comes out to

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a little over $4,000. Yeah, cuz it's 56,800. I did the math and that comes out to a little over $4,000 a month. So, um, wow. So, a no bid contract of more than

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$50,000 is a violation of section of chapter 3, section 3.3.14 of the city's code of ordinances. Right. >> That's correct. However, I do need to make a clarification. That payment was over two fiscal years. So, I'd have to

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bring procurement up, but that might have been permissible if a portion was paid in one fiscal year and another portion was paid in another fiscal year. So, I'll ask the procurement officer to come up because that might have been a permissible payout. >> Okay. >> Uh good evening. Uh yes, manager, that

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is correct. So, this started um at the end of fiscal year uh 25 and that was for the $4,000 per month uh totaling $8,000 total for that fiscal year. We went into the next fiscal year um that we're currently in for the year uh

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$4,000 a month including the 14 months. >> Okay. And we paid this check or a PE card? >> This is paid check. >> A check. >> Okay. Was not a pec card. It was never a pec card. >> Okay. Um

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Okay. So, why did we switch? >> Why did we go from paying 12,000 a year to 48,000 a year? >> I'll I'll answer. >> Uh in July 2025, interim assistant city

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manager Marley Monstein submitted a request to procurement for the implementation of a pilot text messaging program. Um that was the initiation of the switch. >> Okay. So I I just want to clarify just

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because we spended in two fiscal years but when we voted for it no we actually we never voted for it but the So when you got the contract it was for $50,000 for over $50,000 but it was divided into

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two fiscal years the payment. Is that what you're saying? >> I Yes. So, there was an initial period for the for >> Mhm. >> for four months that covered um

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>> one fiscal year. >> Correct. Um calendar year, I believe. >> Yes. >> calendar year. And at the new at the initiation of a new calendar year in January, um and this is a interpretation of our of our procurement code. it was

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permissible to start uh paying this this contractor can now get another up to $50,000 under the manager's threshold. >> Right. Because the first the first four months were like 16,000 and >> first two months >> two months was 8,000

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>> correct >> and then the next year was >> 48 48 >> which we're still in which we have not paid out completely. >> Okay. All right. Does anybody have any questions in the meantime? Because I

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have more but I want to >> to the mayor. I just have one question. Sorry. >> Have they been performing? >> Have we got the >> So that's uh uh off that's a response for my office and also for uh the IT department uh and also for

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communications. Uh communications is not uh satisfied with the engagement that they have received uh from this vendor. uh my office once I came on board I reached out to the vendor uh because I was um uh told that it had not had any

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engagement uh communications was not happy with the engagement they had. So I reached out to the vendor to try to uh activate the service or bring the service forward. Um I did not get a I did not get a response from them until

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they responded until the in to the entire commission and after and I was copied on it. Uh once they responded to the entire commission then they said that they would meet with me um because I requested a meeting with them. Um subsequently my executive assistants has

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tried to schedule a meeting to no avail. >> So when did we reach out to find out about their service? How many months went past that it wasn't satisfied with the service? We didn't and then we reached

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out. How many months? So, according to a review of the email exchanges, and that doesn't take any phone calls, there's been no communication with the firm since um October of last year. >> And we're paying and we're paying them >> correct

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>> for doing nothing. um according to the email response that they provided to the commission and the email response that was provided uh to me subsequently uh they've been doing the background work to set the system up and it should be ready to go.

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>> And is that typical how long a company takes for background work? >> No. >> Right. I have some more questions but if somebody else >> Okay. Um, so

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why did we switch from code red to this other company? This is is a company called figures. What is it called? >> Figures communication. >> Figures communication. Why did we switch from code red to figures communication? >> The only notes that I have is a

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direction from the interim assistancy manager, uh, Marlene Monestine. And do we were we I mean were we I mean you said we were happy with code red but like were we unhappy were we looking or I mean I know I just

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>> no uh IT department said they did not initiate any conversation regarding a switch. >> So who who brought them like how did they come here like how did it happen? Um, so as noted, uh, the chief of staff,

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then chief of staff Marley Monstein presented a proposal from Figures Communication to the city manager to then city manager Mario Diaz and the city attorney uh, with the request to place the item on the April 2025 commission agenda according to

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procurement that was at the direction of the mayor. >> It didn't go to the agenda. according to procurement whether or not it went to the agenda. This was the statement that was >> I didn't bring it >> has been made. >> I I want to clarify. I didn't bring it before commission. Let me make that

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clear. >> That's correct. >> I did not. >> Okay. I have a question. >> In fact, it it bypassed all procurement. >> I don't know if I missed this, but was was there a procurement process in choosing figures? >> Uh no,

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>> there was not a formal process. Um the initial approval was through a software exemption. Um this was uh posed as a pilot and that was approved by the manager's office at the time. >> I don't understand how that's related to

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figures. >> Can you explain that again? figures communications and this text u messaging is software and so the initial pilot program that was posed and in the proposal was for um the initial months

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and it turned into 14 months um but it was approved through a software exemption that is permissible through our code >> but that extended 14 months into a different a new fiscal year. >> Got it. Okay.

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Okay. So, if I may through the mayor, um I was writing some notes when you were talking to Commissioner Smith. Did you say that they they're not communicating with you or did I did I miss >> I requested a meeting? Um and I've never received that meeting. That's correct.

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>> When do you know more or less when you requested it? >> Um I believe I first requested in February March time frame. >> Okay. U within the last 45 days. >> And they haven't. Um so are are we going to continue with them

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or >> no the um I I have directed procurement to terminate the contract due to lack of response. >> Okay. And um do you know well obviously because of lack of response but do you know um I'm

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not sure if you if you are you familiar prior to to coming here were you familiar with figures communication have they done any municipal work before or >> to my understand I am familiar with figures communications but to my understanding they've never done any to

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my knowledge they've never done any municipal work. So, we were the guinea pigs. Okay. Um All right. So, are we going back to Code Red or >> We will likely do a procurement to bring Code Red or another uh messaging

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service, text messaging services on board. >> So, did Code Red do anything for us? Like I don't remember receiving I'm sorry not code red uh figures communication because I don't remember getting any I mean did did what did code

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red even send us texts has anybody ever send us texts like what's >> something smells >> code red I think you somebody needs to break down what code red does and what I guess this program was supposed to do because code red from My understanding

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is like strictly towards police, law enforcement, like Amber, like that type of alert. It doesn't do anything where it it goes outside of that realm. >> It just sticks. >> That's correct. Uh code red is is limited. >> You only get so many times.

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>> Emergency like, hey, there's a road broken down. >> So, what is figures supposed to been doing? Um, that was where I requested the meeting. >> But that was the email that was sent. I guess that email correspondence that went out to everybody >> basically broke I guess broke down what

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they were supposed to do. And the manager says that they have not been communicative towards him. But that's what that was supposed to do. >> So they didn't do anything. >> So So we paid them for what for a year now? It appears that they were setting up

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their process and their service based on the documents >> the the the back the the the >> yes >> the background that you have the the technology that they set up right um is that where is that located because I would assume it's somewhere >> it's not within our systems um it was

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this process was first uh according to the documents I have and the notes that I have based on the review uh once it was Once figures was engaged, they were turned over to IT department which is the appropriate place for the software program to be. However, uh it had

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challenges also engaging figures um and they had challenges with their billing. Uh so once um the IT department um had requested additional information regarding to the service and billing um um figures contacted uh then assistant

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city manager Marley Monestine. She moved the program uh from IT department to the city manager's office and then continued the billing. Uh so we never actually had any uh uh product in house. >> But the product I mean you paid for the

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you paid for the product, right? Like have you >> we paid for a service? >> You paid for the service but the the the the backend um setup as as >> has never been with inside the city. And you have and the last request that you made to say can we get get that technology hasn't has that been say hey has that been made yet or no?

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>> Yes. In fact okay >> in fact u to her credit the procurement officer had already uh sent out a letter of termination to figures. I reversed that to give them an opportunity to meet with my office to determine um because yes $4,000 is $3,000 more than the

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market rate for text messaging. But how do we know or how do I know as city manager that this is not you know something additional that we the city might have been receiving. So I reversed uh the procurement officer's decision on termination and I reached out to them to

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say hey meet with my office to determine you know where we are with this service what it provides >> and they never responded. >> They responded that they would follow up and never followed up. >> But you but that's a for that was like 45 as you point out. Yes, that was been some time >> like 45 days, you said. So, that being

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said, that's why you it's canled. >> Correct. >> Uh they have a 30-day window and they're in that 30-day window. >> Mayor, could I just ask what what's the termination clause say? Do we have any penalties? >> No, we have no penalties. >> It's a convenience. It's always all cities.

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>> I just want to make >> and there's a 30-day window. >> Commissioner, sir, >> just want to put it on record. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um question. So the $4,000 that they do, is that a retainer fee or is that like all inclusive of any text messages being sent?

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>> It's a service charge. So I imagine we never got to have that conversation, but I imagine it would be a flat fee for all the services that they were going to provide the city. >> Madame procurement director, did you did you see the contract? Were they saying like per text message it was going to cost X, Y, and Z or No,

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>> the manager is correct. It is an inclusive monthly rate. was there's not even a limit on how many messages we could send. >> Well, for $4,000, it shouldn't be. >> Okay. So, while she's looking for that,

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are so they never provided a service then we >> From my perspective, the answer to that is >> so are we and through the through the attorney are we entitled to request money back? >> The fact that there's not

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a particular penalty upon termination does not mean that we can't sue them. If they're def in default of what they were supposed to provide under their contract, we can sue them.

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>> I I mean, I'm in favor of that. I'm not sure how that works. >> But we didn't pay all that we owe them. How many months haven't we paid? >> We don't pay all that we owe them. How many months have we been paying >> for this fiscal year?

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>> Oh, um total we've paid uh including last year we've paid 34. Wait, 24 + 8 takes 32 32,000. >> That's it.

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>> Undoubtedly they will defend that says that they were as they apparently said to the manager that they were quote setting up their software. >> Yeah. But you know what? That's not her fault if they're setting up their They're supposed to come to us with their software set.

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>> Like, oh my god. Like, imagine you buy a computer and it's just going to sit here for three years because the software is not set up. >> That depends on what that contract says. But nonetheless, if they

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have defaulted in what they were supposed to be giving to us, then presumably they they can be held liable for that. Now, they've been paid $34,000 and we could sue them for that money if

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they're in default, but you know, whether they'll be at any point in touch with the manager or we have certain rights to demand evidence of what they have done with the money. If they stonewall us again, we can sue them. But

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as I'm understanding this and I was not involved with that procurement at that time, this is not just it's not purchasing the emergency texts. It seems to be that

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they this was a I've heard it described here as a pilot program for the purchase of certain software to I g I gather to enable the city to do certain things. Now, if they had some period of time to

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set that up, that's one thing. But I can't imagine that they're >> have a a a satisfactory defense >> to ignoring requests for communication. Just they can't they can't just not

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respond to us and not be in default. But what it is that they were supposed to provide was not just the bridges out. It was apparently the development of a pilot program for software I gather that

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would have enabled the city to do certain. >> So So let me ask the procurement director. Were we supposed does it say anywhere that you recall that we should pay them for just sitting

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back and letting them develop a software and we just going to watch and does it say that anywhere? >> Not that I recall. That that isn't in the contract. >> Okay. Why don't we have the attorney look over the contract? >> Yeah, why don't we have the attorney look into

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Actually, I'll be happy to do that. Let me just say to this point my understanding is there was some attempt that recently concluded to see if they would respond. Um I haven't really frankly until this was put on the agenda

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been aware that there was even a contract there. I mean I guess it was sent to me originally but there was a request to put it on the agenda that never happened. So there wasn't an agenda to review but however after hearing what I'm hearing >> I mean absolutely since they have

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refused to be even in touch to reply with the manager we will certainly review that >> listen even if they but even if they respond tomorrow even they're watching they're going to call the manager first thing in the morning they still never provided anything to us so just based on

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that I don't even care if they respond or don't respond the point is They provided nothing to us and we've paid them and and now we need that money back. >> I understand your surmise on that vice mayor and if those are the facts then we

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probably have a cause of action against them and can bring that but I would need to review not only the contract but the correspondence and I'm happy to do that. >> Right. >> It's not come >> to me previously. Um, so

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>> through the mayor to I'm sorry. >> Thank you. All right. Um, I I really want to clarify. So, you said that a resolution and a contract was signed, but it wasn't put on the agenda. Is that what happened? >> No, >> you didn't say that. >> No. >> No. He or

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>> it wasn't placed on the agenda? No. >> He said that he never put it on. >> I never put it on the agenda. >> Okay. It wasn't you who sponsored it is what you're saying. >> It was never It was never It was never not on the agenda. >> It was never never on the agenda. It was like never on the agenda at all. So >> we never voted for it. You never No, I

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know. We never saw anything on the agenda, right? I mean, obviously I guess like when it came in at 48 grand, it wasn't going to be it was under. So I guess like maybe we could ask the interim city manager about this issue because would that be in his period or

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would it be in Mario's period? This was initiated under uh city manager Mario Diaz. >> Oh, >> but he left like the the >> he left in June, right? >> He left >> in June. This was you said April of 2025 and then

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>> he he resigned in May and he left in June. >> Yes. So you but >> but as as the manager has stated several times that u Marlene Monestine the assistant city manager took charge of

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that. >> So it took it out of it and then brought it into the city manager's office to continue paying for it. >> That's correct. >> Okay. >> All right. Next item is 15.3. >> I'm sorry. What? >> It was it was a discussion. This is now we're moving.

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>> Are we going to take action on anything? >> I mean the So the attorney is going to look at the contract, right? >> Yes. >> And and can you get with the manager's office? >> Okay. And please sorry my >> I keep turning this off. I said I Yes. I've reviewed the contract, get with

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procurement and get with the manager's office. Look at the correspondence and see what our remedies are. >> Mr. Mayor. >> All right. 15 >> time is now 11:45. >> Yeah, but we're going to 15.3. There's only two items left. 15.3. So my the next item is um the

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>> what what what the manager is saying is that he's familiar with how long we take on each item and it might last longer than 15 minutes. >> Did Commissioner Jean leave? >> Um >> no 153 is reactivation of the advisory committee for disabled individuals.

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>> All right. So we I >> we're we have one of our boards is the dis disability board. Did you >> I'm the leazison. >> Okay. you're the liaison. It has been inactive for many years >> and um I'd like to see it become active

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again. >> Okay. >> All right. >> Can I can I wait? I know that we I don't want to drag the discussion on long, but I I can I propose something. I think that um we we do have we do have a lot of board like economic

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development didn't get a quorum again. So I don't know if you're aware but >> a as a chair I'm aware. >> Yes. As a liaison. >> I'm just saying. >> Yes. No. And what I'm saying is like we're burdening a lot of people with a lot of meetings. If you look at our

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calendar, we have so many different >> Oh, good. Let's bring up how many events we're having too. >> Exactly. >> Right. And we still need one for the tennis center. So my my my point is is there a is is there a way or another similar

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group that can accommodate this like I'm just throwing it out there like maybe >> accommodate what >> accommodate have about disabled individuals. >> So you know sometimes just people may

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not want to be on one board but be on another. So >> I know. Yeah. >> You know, maybe and maybe nobody want to be in the disability board and maybe everybody wants to be on it. Um but you know, Commissioner, >> we did we did do an effort through the clerk

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>> for this board. I don't >> get some members and we've gotten no response. Right. >> So is this something we each commissioner picks one person or is it anybody can come and and >> beautifification of the board? >> It's so anybody can come. >> We need to open it up. Um sorry. Mhm.

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>> Vice Mayor, >> maybe what we need to do is open it up to um non-residents as well and so that we can probably get people who are um active in that in that >> just say stakeholders

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>> stakeholders. And I actually had the the the the my former aid that works at the library now. >> Well, all of the boards are open to non-resident. >> She would love to be on it. She would love to be on it. She has two children with autism and she would love to bring

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um so much awareness into our city about disability. So if >> yeah she does not live in in North May Beach but she is dying for this board to come back. >> This may be the conduit that we need to get started. >> All right. I I'll have her reach out.

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>> You can fifth um >> on my senior board just to mention there's quite a few seniors that are not living in North Miami Beach. They live in the county, >> they just can't vote. >> All right, before we go to the 15.4, um, city attorney, can you do your

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>> just a very brief report, mayor, the city clerk and I have been operating as staff for the charter review board. That board um has, I think, one more meeting scheduled where it's met every single week. Uh, this next week there's not a

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meeting, but there is one at the beginning of the following week. I think it's the seventh. next I'm not the beginning but the following week I believe it's the 7th that's anticipated to be the last meeting although if another one's needed they'll have one um

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we have as the clerk could report a window to get things on the ballot for November the city uh clerk's office is in touch with elections and we have really until July but the report of the

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charter review board is a a list of recommendations and I should advise the commission that at least at present it is a very lengthy list. Um I anticipate that the commission will have difficulty

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dealing with every one of those items at a regular city commission meeting with all of the other things that we do. And I'd like to bring before you that with the assistance of the clerk, as soon as we are reasonably confident that it will

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conclude on May 7th, like I said, there could be one more meeting, we would like to work with you to schedule a special meeting of the city commission, not a workshop, but a special meeting where you can hear at length in detail the

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presentation of the charter. review committee. We would propose to invite the entire charter review committee through its chair to come before you and basically move item by item on their recommendations. Uh the commission is

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not required to decide whether to put them on the ballot or not the first time you hear them. You could say we want to think about this one or that one and and come back, but at least on the other items as much as possible, you should

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move through them and by being a special commission meeting uh instead of a workshop, you can vote on which items you want to put on the ballot, which ones you reject from putting on the ballot, how you want to group them,

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which is extremely important. Do you I mean you can't do you know 40 referendum votes because the elections office just won't allow you to add 40 items to their thing. But you can have all as one or

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you can have five here and six or whatever. But you need to just have in your heads that unless there's some objection that there will need to be a special commission meeting to move through them. And if it ends up that on

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half a dozen particularly controversial items that you want to defer those at your special meeting and come back and take them up at a second special meeting or at a regular meeting because you've narrowed them. That'll be up to you to

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do. We just wanted to brief you on where that process is and let you know what how we're going to try to bring it in for a landing. >> All right. Thank you. portfol and 10 years ago we had 10 items I believe

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>> and only I think two of them >> two two did >> no two >> two >> pass >> no no no it was like a bunch of them were on there a lot of like >> right the civil board >> and the change of the the election right >> everything else failed

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>> so like you put you can put as many you want it can just fail fail fail like it is what it is but >> but you can't do 40 you can't do 40 but That's a I think and I think Commissioner Smith said like you it's better you put one or two that you know >> than to put like a bunch that it's just going to be like

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>> No, you said it wrong. Two did not pass and the other eight passed. No, >> they they wanted to get rid of the civil service board and it didn't pass. We kept the civil service. >> Commissioners, your history on it. I mean, I know you've got one more item. It is what it is. I'm just trying to

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tell you >> prepare. It's already >> I'm just trying to tell you be prepared because whenever you get it, it's going to be a long night. >> Okay. Uh 15 15.4. Commissioner Jean. >> Oh, thank you, Mr. Mayor. I wanted to propose an idea for a Centennial event.

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Um this would be an event that's fully sponsored. um but for a centennial um symphony a 50piece orchestra which is the Miami Dade Pixel um orchestra that's willing to do a concert for us and wanted to kind of put that as one of the

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official events for the centennial celebration. >> Okay. >> Okay. Well, see, I I just want to say one thing and and and we have a lot of events. We have a lot of events um that

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are happening and and I know Commissioner Smith is not here. Um what I want um cuz I'm not I'm not objecting to people celebrating especially in our 100 year. I've never been that person or

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what have you. Um, but I just want to be mindful, right, that we do have a a policy >> in the house. >> We do have a policy, >> but if that policy is is being, let's say, um,

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relaxed as a result of our 100 year, I have no issue with that. What I don't what I what I want everybody to be I want everybody to be treated the same. That's all I'm asking for. Everybody be treated the same. whatever that event may be cuz I've seen a lot of things happen and like I'm not knocking I'm not knocking

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anybody celebrating our community from different aspects but I want everybody to be treated the same that's all >> the for instance of what you've seen I'm sorry I have >> no no I'm saying like you remember we have a policy right we went through this policy it was you know it was very

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detailed and if if you have this amount of people or if you you remember it was something that I I think you you were >> did it pass >> it passed oh it passed it passed commission, >> three of them per commissioner. It had to be budgeted. It had to do X, Y, and Z. It was a lot of things tied to it. A

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lot of things tied to it. And and like to the point that certain PE like dur during the first year, we're really testing this out. Like I held out from using any of mine because I really wanted to there's only certain things I I was really I cared about in certain events, right? I said, "Hey, I'm not going to use that for that or what have

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you." Now, I've seen a ramp up of a lot of things, which I'm not I'm I'm saying, "Hey, that's fine." But I I you know I don't understand everything is important. Don't misinterpret this. But these we we voted on limiting the

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events. Mother's Day is coming back. >> Then we have to have Father's Day that was introduced one year. >> Father it it was done Commissioner Smith. It was done one year but it was completely sponsored.

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>> Just have the manager review that. >> But is it being sponsored now? being done. I'm not saying we shouldn't do it. I think they're all important. >> No, we we've always been doing Mother's Day, but in the last few years, instead of doing the actual breakfast, we were doing deliveries of of gifts.

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>> Okay. But you're taking it personal. I'm talking about >> No, I'm not taking it personal. I'm just clarifying that we've we Mother's Day, we just switched it around. The money has always been in the budget for Mother's Day, but we just switched it around from the delivery of love is what we called it. I make a motion that the

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manager review the what we voted on and follow the poll. I want to know how much Commissioner Hang on. Hang on, hang on, wait, hang on, hang on. No, no, wait. This is that my Let me be very clear. >> See what happens when you >> We We have I'm not saying that we've

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opened Pandora's box, but I understand why we've gotten to where we are and why certain things had to happen or whatever because this is a very fluid year. what I've been saying and I want to make very clear. I want everybody to be treated the same. >> What does that mean?

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>> Yeah, let's go over the policy. >> No, no, but but the the and allowing the manager to have that discretion and making sure that everybody is treated the same. >> I think he's doing that now. >> But but >> what I'm saying is that I I have no but I just want to just allow him to have

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that discretion. That's all. >> Okay. So I I Commissioner Jean, how much is the the symph symphony? >> No, it's going to come at a cost, but it's going to be fully funded. So from we're going to do a line item of police, staff, venue, the orchestra. It's not

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free. It's not it's on a cost, but what I'm saying is I'm committing to making this a fully funded. So I'm going to raise the funds to cover the cost. >> All right. Now, let's >> second. All in favor say I. I um

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>> three. >> Yeah. >> Well, no. Well, we're >> I I have Okay. >> I I So, no, no, no. We can make a motion to unadjourn. >> Who winning? >> Who was >> I never I actually never voted to to

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adjurnn. So, it doesn't even count. >> I never voted. >> Second her vote. You were on the winning side. >> I never voted. So, it was never count. So, so it was an illegal vote. >> Go manager. manager. >> Okay. So, yeah, these are very serious

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issues. This is my Nobody wants to go home more than me, but this is the only time I have you all together and >> Okay. So, I make a motion to extend the meeting to 12:05. >> Perfect. >> Do I make Do we need to make a motion that we extend? I just said it. I need a second. Okay. All in favor?

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>> I >> can you do this? >> I'm going to >> Okay. So, till 12:05. >> All right. So, and I'm going to I'm gonna speed rap it for you. Um, so there was a and I'm again, nobody wants to be out of here more than I do. I I I

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support that. Uh, but I have to give you a report. This will be my first manager's report. Um, I got direction uh at the last commission meeting to look into uh the report from uh former CFO Tariq Romani. There was a lot in there.

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We started with the ARPA uh reviewed uh emails uh regarding ARPA. On February 2026, former CFO Tariq Romani informed the US Treasury Department that appro that two $3.2 million was not timely

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appropriated. Uh in March 2026, the US Treasury responded to Mr. Romani um demanding the return of $3.2 million and ARPA funding. I have met with the city attorney uh and we're coming up with a

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strategy to respond uh to the US Treasury that will not make this uh uh make it immediate that we respond uh that we return those funds. Uh in the meantime, we are meeting with uh uh my department is meeting with the finance

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department and all the department heads to uh utilize as much of those funds that have were allocated so that we can make the statement that we received the funds and that we're utilizing the funds and and we've also engaged a ORPER consultant to assist us with our

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response uh and um to assist us with uh the expenditures and assist us with uh responding to the US Treasury. the department. Um, as many of you, that's item one. Uh, item two, I only have a few items. Item two, as many of you all

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know, since Mr. Romani left, I've been serving as the interim CFO, uh, vacancies has been a problem in the finance department, but it allowed me to do a deep dive. Uh, we have put some safeguards there. I have put some safeguards there. I only have a viewing authority. I do not have the authority

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to direct any payments or direct any checks, but I do have viewing authority in cashro system. For example, in the viewing authority cash pro system, I was working with one of our full-time employees and one of our consultants as we're preparing for both our audits which was uh which is due uh at the end

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of June and it's been late for two more years. So, if we if it's late again, we could be uh subject to financial oversight and also we're now going into budget season. So there were a lot of numbers that we've been crunching. Um some what we call exemptions in the cash pro system have were identified. Uh

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which appears that um um there have been some salary payments that have been paid erroneously um over the course of years. So that is that is about the maximum I can give in that information that is now being

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directed that is a criminal investigation through our police department. But you do need to be made aware that that is that is occurring. Um there are also some structural operational deficiencies uh in the finance department. Uh we have not been

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doing bank reconciliations on a monthly basis. Uh that's a for those that you are familiar with finance that's a huge error. That's not like checking your bank account and reconciling it every 30 days to know how much money you have. So that handicaps the commission that

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handicaps department heads uh with making financial decisions. So uh we do have a I've hired a consultant. Um we've utilized our contract with Cabriero, our in-house auditing team. We have an interim finance director. Uh we've utilized um uh we've also utilized uh

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Anthony Brunson who I've had a previous relationship with uh and brought in uh interim budget administrator since both those positions are are vacant. Uh they are assisting us with reviewing some of our uh some of these processes. We're looking to get a bank reconciliations

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done on a monthly basis. Additionally, uh accounts receivable, accounts payable seem to have some structural deficiencies as well. There's no uh identified personnel. There's no identified timeline. There's no identified process. So, pretty much for

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accounts receivable. Uh when a when a payment comes in, whoever is available books it. Same thing with accounts payables. When an alarm goes off that somebody is supposed to be paid, uh whoever's available pays it. So, um a lot of things do fall through the cracks

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and can fall through the cracks when that is the case. So we're also working on creating uh a process for accounts receivable, a process for accounts payable and also uh identifying personnel. These personnel, these accountants will be dedicated to AR.

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These accountants will be dedicated to um AP. Uh another challenge is uh payroll. Um unlike most cities, and I have to say I was totally against this before I came, but now that I'm here, I really like getting a check every week.

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Uh but running um running payroll every single week um is a is a incredible challenge. Every single week we have staff that get overpaid and every single week. Every single week we have staff

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that get underpaid. So it's constantly the staff is constantly trying to catch up. Um and for some of our union employees this is particular problematic. uh and we if we do not address this soon, we could run the risk of having a union file a complaint

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against us, particularly our police union. So, that's something we're looking to correct. But we only have two um payroll staff uh payroll what we call payroll specialists and and that's the normal staff that you would have when you're when you're doing it uh every two

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weeks. So, we're trying to hire there. We're trying to get additional training there and but that's a that's a challenge that the commission needs to be needs to be uh aware of >> and it's going and impacting the workflow. So I'm now going to uh switch

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to >> well >> okay >> I make a motion to extend to 12 >> second 1210 >> second all in favor >> I should be doing this >> I >> keep going >> Jay this is important

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>> as I've so as I've submitted to you all by email I hope you've had a chance to review it HB1451 um we're on precarious grounds there. And so we need to have an understanding of what that could mean for us financially, which would mean about a $10 million loss, $9 to $10 million loss

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in our search charge. We're still working that veto plan, but now we've also switched to mitigation losses. Um, I'm going to give you a lot of bad news, but I'm going to end it on a on a high note that we're entering to budget seasons. Actually, we're a little bit behind on budget season due to the fact

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that we do not have a budget analyst and our and our interim uh budget administrator just started last Monday and is still in training on our system, the immunity system. So, here are the budget concerns. We have $5 million in reserve this year. Fiscal year 2526

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26 comes at a $12 million cost. That means that we're spending $12 million more than we're bringing in. So, as most cities do, if we enter this budget season, just looking at doing the next year what we did this year with $5

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million in reserve and a $12 million uh budget expense, we'd be looking at a $7 million loss. That's one. Two, if HB1441 does not move the way that we want, that would be a $10 million loss. So, we'll be looking at that would bring our

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losses to $17 million for the next fiscal year. In addition, if if the city attorney's office and I are successful, which I believe that we have a strong strategy, but if if we were not successful, that would be an additional $3 million loss, which would bring us

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entering our budget season for 25, excuse me, 2627 at a $20 million loss. >> And that's not counting >> that's not counting the if the if we lose the homestead exemption taxes, right? >> If we lose the homestead exemptions

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taxes, then we're looking Yes. Yes. Um we're looking at insolveny now. >> Um no 14 14.1 would perhaps. >> Yes. Yes. Mayor nothing. >> No say can you.

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>> Yeah. Let conclude. Let me conclude. Okay. Okay. So Okay. So there is a there is a >> there is a light at the end of the tunnel. I believe what I can tell you is that I'm going to submit to you a

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balanced budget. Uh if I still have a job after that, it'll be up to you. I'm not certain that you will like it, but I promise you I will submit to you a balanced budget. What I am working on is bringing you some options for additional revenue. And this is something I've been working on from the day I was hired. uh

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meeting with other cities to uh potentially, for example, become our water customers. So, we have a Yes. So, we have a potential we have contracts that we're discussing with multiple cities that could bring in an additional $10 million in revenue. Uh perhaps $6

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million within the next 30 30 days. That would put a deep hole, well, a deep punch into our losses. Uh next >> Oh, we have to keep it with the water department. >> Yes. Yes. But as I shared with you in my interview, we can take loans, we can

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take new interest loans from that from that and utilize it in our general fund and pay it back over 30 years. >> I would uh caution a little bit on that because of how our WIFA there's there's other nuances tied to our financing besides

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that. And um I think uh there needs to be a breakdown on how WIFIA is going to be impacted the way you I think you might want to reorganize our way of doing business. Agreed. >> I'm saying what I think there's a lot of I I'm agree. >> The water director wasn't here. I think

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we were here. Uh Wy is a very very interesting type of mechanism and you and like I I without saying too much I think you guys have to have a a stronger tutorial on how we do our financing. >> Absolutely. >> Before you start making changes.

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>> There's a lot of issues there. Um, also, um, one thing I want to make a request because I know we have a few minutes. >> Yeah, but you you need No, no, no. You need to be more explicit to him. >> No, this is the first this is the first time I've I've heard him. >> But what I'm what I'm saying is that we

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we do have B we do have bond counsel that was tied to this. They should follow up with Schuman and Bass because they in regards to our prior litigation, people need to understand our legacy. >> Mr. Mayor, >> yes. No, no, no. I'm just No, wait, wait,

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wait. No, no. I What I There is There is background already available. There is Schuman and Bass. We paid a lot of money in regards to our past litigation and resolving um and getting our settlement taken care of. That discussion needs to happen with counsel and vote. Yes,

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there's a lot of things tied to how we do our financing, not just this like uh glaze approach. I just don't want us to mess something up and us at the wheel when that happens because we weren't forthcoming on how our history to to I

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guess people that are now taking the reigns. That's all I'm saying. And I don't and but my thing is this. I don't want to be in a situation where I'm circumventing my colleagues authority like it's been put out in the past. This is everybody's responsibility.

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>> Mr. Mayor, you're the mayor. I might be the mayor, but at the end of the day, there's a price that comes with it, and you guys have increased that price substantially, but I'm not willing to pay for it. >> As the mayor and the head of the city, you should be reaching out to the manager's office and explain whatever it is that you're trying to say. I make a

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motion to extend at 12:15. >> I second it. >> Thank you. All in favor? >> I. >> But that's it. >> Okay. That's it. Not more than 12. Not more than 12:15. >> Okay. All right. Go on. Okay. Um, so,

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um, I'll get with the city attorney. Um, not sure that there was a reorganization of the finance department here. >> No, no. What I'm saying the the the the what I'm not saying you reorg the the way that it's being propounded to me is that you have uh there's there's ways

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that you want to create revenue. What I don't want is to infringe on any past agreements that we have that might create a situation. >> Okay. >> That's all. All right. That's and and like I said like uh it it is this is not like a a little ship. This is a like a

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massive you know cruise liner in regards to our water plant and you might think moving one one lever here won't make a difference but I've like I've seen some weird stuff and I just don't want us to to to you know mess up the gears too

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much. One thing I would ask because you since you're like um you mentioned the fact that you are the CFO, do you know when you might be hiring a CFO? >> Oh, we have uh we actually are engaging uh a head hunter firm uh to get us uh um a CFO as soon as possible.

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>> And the other question I have is that when will the check registry be up and running? We haven't had that up and running in a long time. >> I'll have to look into that and get an answer for you. Mr. >> Was that is that is that finance? >> Yes. I'm just saying like the last time I saw the check registry open was like maybe a

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year and a half and they used to show all the checks going in and out. >> Okay. >> And I think that's we should reactivate. >> Yes. >> Sooner rather than later. >> I'll work on that, Mr. Mayor. >> Other than that, that's fine. But like I don't want to take any more. Like I said, um the the 14 1451 like one it has

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like I saw your initial letter. A lot of it doesn't come online until 2020 I think 2028. Mhm. >> And there's some there's some wonky wonkiness in regards to the statute itself, >> but I I like I said, you got you guys do have um lobbyists and you do have

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counsel, a lot lot of people working on it. I'm leave that to the professional, >> but I just don't want us to to to I just want us to be very careful on how um and how you you you know, you open up different aspects of revenue and making sure that it doesn't impact other aspects. >> Well, well, I can say to give you some

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assurance, Mr. mayor is all I can do as city manager is provide you all with opportunities. Everything every opportunity that is created has to come before this commission for a vote. So, >> okay. And do you have any more good news or >> Yes. Okay. >> Um um and last but not least, as you all

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might have heard multiple times from because now the city is uh the city staff is repeating it. Uh we have a one city, one team initiative and what that does is um centralized services. So, so for example, we're spending $967

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u,000 a year uh on on communication salary because there's five communications uh personnel in parks department. There's five communications personnel in uh utilities, there's communications in police. And what we're looking at doing is consolidating that

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service, consolidate department to find out where we're having uh excess expenditures. maybe we can still keep that same staff, but they can fill a different role that that's that's not uh currently being provided as a service to the city. Whereas, instead of having uh five different people that are doing

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flyers for individual departments, we have a person doing flyers for library, a person doing flyers for parks, a person's doing flyers for my office >> and the mayor >> and the mayor and the mayor and commissions. So, um, so we're going to be combining line items where, um, and

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closing in on cost and centralizing services. And along with doing that with just 60 days, we have, uh, realized over a million dollars in savings and shavings and expenses. So, >> all right. And are you going to uh do anything about making some profit out of

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our theater? >> Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. >> Because we definitely can make a lot of money. >> We'll certainly look into that for sure. >> Thank you. Thank you. money out of our theater. Yeah, but you have to