Madame clerk, can you please do the roll call? >> Commissioner Shoff, >> here. >> Commissioner Florimmon, >> here. >> Commissioner Smith, >> Commissioner Smuckler, >> present. >> Please, everyone, please stay quiet as we're reading doing the roll call. Thank you.
>> Commissioner Sue >> here. >> Vice Mayor Jean's running late. Mayor Michael Joseph, >> I am here. >> You have quum, sir. >> All right. Next item is the invocation. Pastor Vasquez. >> Is the mic on? >> Check. One, two. Loud and clear.
>> Let us start this day in a prayer. Heavenly Father, we want to thank you for this is the day that you have made. We thank you for giving us another day of life. We pray for our mayor, our commissioners, and their staff and all those that are involved in the city. We
pray that every decision that they make is to improve each and one of the residents that are here and the business owners that this city will grow, will be prosper, will be blessed. And we thank you for your mighty hand upon the city. In your name we pray. Amen.
>> Amen. Thank you. Pledge of allegiance. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and
justice for all. >> All right. Next is request withdraws affirm and additions. Madam clerk. >> Okay. At the request of commissioner Sue item 9.21 21 which is resolution number
R2025181. That's the approving the extension of the manager. That item is requested be pulled from the consent agenda. >> M I had my my initial motion and
additions and prior. >> Yes, >> you can go first. Thank you. At the request of Mayor Michael Joseph, item 9.5 is to be deferred. Also, we will be adding um an item that will be passed around to you that's for
Washington Park. And also item 11.9 that's under legislation. That item is requested to be withdrawn >> from who? >> You want me to go repeat it? >> Okay. >> Yes, please repeat. >> Okay.
Item 11.9 is to be withdrawn. There will be an added item regarding Washington Park. Item 9.5 is being requested to be deferred. >> Okay. And um that's and I'm going to
make a before she reads off Commissioner Sue. I'm going to make a separate motion accept um my additions withdrawals as is and then and then move on to Commissioner 2 if it doesn't pass. All right, madam madam clerk go on with
her with commissioner Shu's u suggested items. >> So >> So hang on. Did you meaning you had just approved your your addition? >> No, no. I I wanted a I want to I added one item, remove another item. >> Okay. >> And walked on another item which is the Washington Park. But I want to accept it
the agenda as amended the way I I'm I'm proposing it. >> And you have you're going to have your opportunity as well. >> Okay. So don't we have to vote on that? >> Yes. Okay. >> But hang on. I wanted to know the the item that you wanted to add in Washington Park. Is that a consent agenda item or >> No legislation? >> Okay. So, there's nothing added to the
consent, correct? >> No. >> Okay. Got it. Thank you. >> It's just going to be a legislation. So, it's >> move to approve. >> Okay. >> Second. >> All in favor say I. >> I. Okay. So, we the agenda is accepted as I amended it, but I understand that Commissioner Sue, do you have any?
>> Yes. She I already >> And for the record, I'm showing no one has opposed. >> No. So, >> that's what the minutes will reflect. Yes, m Mr. Mayor, as a point of order, my understanding is Commissioner Sue simply wants to take the item from consent and put it under to a discussion item.
>> But I commissioner that one doesn't take a vote. Every commissioner can do that. >> I understand that. But we voted and we accepted the agenda as as I amended. >> Oh, wait. So, my my suggestions are not >> You can say you can say it into the record, but I >> they're automatically done. >> They're automatically. So, if you want
to read your um what you would wanted to do, but I motioned to accept my agenda as a >> Wait. So, um to the clerk, we just accepted um Mayor Joseph. Now, we're doing what are Commissioner Sue's? >> Whatever I propose is just what I
propose. It's not accepted or not included part of the agenda. Is it >> or I can motion. Is that >> Yes. >> I see. Okay. Got it. >> No, ma'am. It should not take a motion. >> All you do Okay, got it. from the items on the agenda are the items on the agenda to
have discussion on something. You simply any commissioner pulls that and puts it but it what she's asking now we have to vote to approve it right >> to accept my I could be wrong. >> No no the way we've done is that yes >> it's but I understood is simply remove
it from consent and have it be a discussion item. No, the way I the way No, wait. Well, the way I the way I proposed my um additions as well as uh my withdrawal was to accept the agenda as is the way I proposed it. A motion
for mo I got a a motion in a second and I asked for approval based on those parameters. >> And now we're going to move on to Commissioner Sue. So to the clerk, can you read Commissioner Sue's changes? >> And if she gets support, she gets support. >> Okay.
>> No, no, no, no. But if somebody wants to move, >> no, it has to be approved >> from the consent agenda to the regular commission item. You don't need a approval. >> Commissioners have the right >> to discuss things that are on consent
upon request. >> But we have to approve the the the agenda as amended as amended. Right. That's what we're doing. But and you did but that the items on the agenda you've just said what's there what's pulled
what's withdrawn etc. >> But that doesn't deprive a commissioner of the right to stay out. >> No no no I don't no we're not depriving that. >> Not depriving that. >> We're saying that we like I propose a set agenda the way I proposed it. We voted a motion a second to accept it as set. However, if Commissioner Sue wants
to present an agenda separate and a part of that, she can. I'm giving her that opportunity. That's what we're going to do. >> That's what we're going to decide. That's what we decide. Okay, Commissioner Sue, >> I already gave my list to the clerk. >> Okay, so I'm going to read these off. >> Thank you. >> Okay, >> I'm going to read off.
>> She's going to read the the things that Commissioner that she would like. >> She gets support. >> Yes. From the clerk. Go ahead, Madam Clerk. >> Okay. Per the request of Commissioner Sue, item 9.5, which is resolution number 2025-165,
that request is to be deferred. That item is requested to be deferred. Item 9.6 is also being requested to be deferred and it's listed as 2025-166. Item 9.7 is being requested to be
deferred and that's resolution 2025-167. Item 9.8 is being requested to be deferred and that is resolution 2025-168. Also being deferred is item 9.9 which is resolution number 2025-169.
And let's see here. Item 11.6 is requested being deferred and that is item 2025-183. Commissioner Sue, >> are you correct?
I think 183 was not mine. My request was to have to pull item 9.22, resolution 2025 188 for discussion. >> Okay. So, I'm reading off your email. It says here 11.6. I'm not looking at the agenda. >> Okay.
>> 11.6 and it says 2025-183 using coastal funds. >> Oh, yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. Sorry. My apologies. Those are just the items that Commissioner Sue has requested. >> That being said, does does anyone
support Commissioner Sue's changes to the agenda as seeing none, we move forward as agenda as I presented. Madame clerk, can you move forward? Thank you. >> Next is presentations. >> Yes.
Pre presentations, madam clerk. Thank you. >> So, presentations. Mr. Mayor, if you like, maybe we can call the communications department. >> Where's communications? >> Oh, that's announcements. Oh, so there's no presentations. Okay. Madam clerk, can you please open
up for public for public comment? Thank you, >> Mr. Mayor. Before we go to public comment, I have a question about the process of changing the agenda items. We're doing something special this month that I did not even understand. Like, how did how did this come about?
>> No. >> Is there was it an announcement or did you share this during the time that I wasn't around or was I not paying attention? >> I made a motion. I had a second. >> Well, usually what we all do is we all group together and make it make changes to the agenda and then we all vote on it
together. But all of a sudden now it's like there's a proposal that you made and then there's a proposal that you know that somebody else makes and then if I don't get a second then it doesn't get it doesn't get changed. Is that I mean that that that's not how we normally do it. >> No, that's basically how we've done it like you
>> No, we haven't done it this way. >> That being said, Madame Clerk, can you please open up the public comment, please? Thank you. >> Good evening everyone. The mayor and commissioner of the city of North Beach has opened the meeting for public comment at this time. There is a threeminut time limit. Speakers, when
you're called to the podium, please state your name or the name of the organization which you are representing. The mayor and commission of the city of North Beach request that all in attendance to exercise civility towards each other. And our first two signed
speakers are Josh and then Karen Harold. Good evening, commissioners and mayor. Um, gotta lighten it up a little bit somehow, you know, but okay. Um, all right. So, anyway, tonight I actually want to raise an issue that affects not just me, but anyone else speak. Sorry, my name. >> Yes, please.
>> Let me start over. >> Josh, um, 16750 Northeast 10th Avenue, North Miami Beach, Florida. >> Okay, let me start over. So, tonight I want to raise an issue that affects not just me, but anyone in our city who wants access to modern financial tools.
the fact that many decentralized finance products, legitimate, widely used, and globally accessible, are blocked here in Florida. Residents in other uh parts of the world can use these tools freely, but people in North Miami Beach can't simply because our regulatory framework hasn't kept up with innovation. And I
understand that US City Commission cannot change state or federal crypto laws. But there is something meaningful you can do. You can pass a resolution urging the Florida Blockchain Task Force to study this issue and bring forward clear, responsible guidance for DeFi
access in the 2026 legislative session. This would cost the city nothing, but it would send a strong message that North Miami Beach supports innovation while also protecting consumers. This is exactly how cities help drive state level attention. If we don't speak up,
nothing changes. At the same time, I believe North Miami Beach has an opportunity to position itself as a crypto friendly and innovationfriendly city in a way that is lowcost or even no cost. There are simple steps we can take from encouraging tech startups to open here to recognizing local businesses
that accept digital payments to hosting educational workshops and partnership with private organizations. These are small actions, but they send a big signal. North Miami Beach welcomes the future. And at a time when cities all across the country are competing for tech investment, taking even modest
steps now will help attract new businesses, new residents, and new economic opportunities without burdening the city's budget. We have a chance to put North Miami Beach on the map as a forward-thinking, innovation ready city. And it starts with acknowledging that
residents deserve access to the same financial tools the rest of the world already uses and with asking uh the state to create a pathway to get there. Thank you. Next speaker. >> Hi Karen Herald, resident of North Miami
Beach. Good evening mayor, commissioners, city attorney, and city manager. Thank you for your service. Um, I just wanted to mention something regarding the five to six hour for presentations and I don't remember past meetings always
having that all the time and I was wondering maybe since different commissioners have mentioned having an additional meeting or a workshop maybe the presentations can be every other commission meeting and then on the other one since everybody comes for presentations to have a workshop
anything that's needed to be able to move backlog things you know for you so they can be worked on. Um I know some things have been moved around but I'm going to speak on what I had before I heard that. So 9.6 about the sister cities. I don't believe it's time now to
put additional strain on our already depleted reserves to bring in this program. The additional cost it would cost to the city. I don't think it's the time for that. We need to get a productive, knowledgeable city manager in once we're up and running with accountability, transparency, reserves
built back up, then bring it back in for discussion. And I also have a little bit concern about the one of the cities, but I don't think it's time now for that. And it was changed anyway. 919 regarding Corona Delmare. I don't have much knowledge of this, but I was wondering
why we're paying for plumber Mike's contract increase. And then in another resolution about the septic dour, I know it was money that was put here, then moved here, then moved there, and now moved back. It just seems a little dysfunctional. That's what I'm talking about. Getting the city in order before
we bring on extra projects. Um, also, um, are we going to get the same help as residential homeowners when Miami date comes for us? Um, 11.6, Six, we already have food distributions in place. Since
CO times, we do not need to spend more city money towards this resolution. We do not have a good history with allocating any money for monetary food assistance. Public's gift cards ring a bell. We need our contingency fund to grow for any citywide disasters. Please
don't touch our money put aside for that. It's already tapped right and left. Since when did our contingency fund become an easy pool to siphon off money from? It seems our budget doesn't fit our needs very well. From the agenda, I keep seeing similar projects, same projects need more and more money.
Maybe when these projects come up for approval, you can see if they're going to be able to handle increased costs. Maybe instead of three sections, they can only do two to provide for uh have the money to provide for extra costs. Um, also 11.2 is a very vague, not
detailed increase dramatically. Is that 510% 10% 50%? no parameters to use um in a non-transparent way to by anybody who's implementing it. And it talks about reasonable reduction of development fees. What's reasonable?
What's reasonable to you might not be reasonable to me? >> Um and how can you consider an ordinance with such vague wording? Don't constructions firm firms have it in their uh plans for any rising costs and things like that? The city needs money.
We have rising costs. We're not getting breaks on things. So please, >> thank you. Next speaker. >> Good evening. My name is Maria Hawk. I live in this city for over 30 years. Um,
every day I am more and more concerned about living in this city. Today I had to pay plenty of money for taxes. Home taxes, taxes, this insurance here and there. We are hurting for money. And
then it pains me so that things are taken so lightly with the money, our tax money. So and because of that I have two question. And my first
point which is hiring a city manager. We need to hire someone we trust for the city manager position. Most of us believe that Mr.
Tariq is a trustworthy, honest and honorable person to fill this vacancy. However, we cannot hire people solidly based it on personal preference.
We need a candidate who can perform the job effectively and whom we can trust to lead our city. Okay, this is a question. The second point is benefits for the mayor's recent
trips. The measures recently traveled to Japan and Morocco. My question is what benefits of opportunities were brought back from these countries that can positively
impact our city. The third question is the benefit from the Salt Lake City Commission or convention. at this convention for the city league
in in l um salt city I'm sorry salt city uh lake city what advantage or insigns will be gained that will benefit our city
thank you thank you next here. >> Next speaker, Terrence TC. speakers are except for the first two. So that's why your name. >> Yes, it is. >> All right. Terrence, she is next.
>> Good evening, mayor, city commissioners. My name is Terrence Camuli. I'm a 32-year resident of the United of North Miami Beach as well as the United States. A lot longer than that. Um 30 years in my current uh house.
Um, something was already removed from the consent agenda. I was just going to mention about the consent agenda item 9.21. How can you authorize a city manager or his designate to do something that is affecting him? That's something that I think that needs to be changed
just to do his designate so that way the city manager does not have to be dealing with something that is affecting him. Um, I know we're coming up on our 100th anniversary. I'm wondering what we're going to do with our sidewalks. I have put numerous requests into fixit NMBB
about cracked and broken sidewalks in the Sunray West and city center areas. Mainly because the contractors that for FPNL have been parking their trucks and trailers on the sidewalks while installing the new concrete poles along the streets and alleys.
Some of these sidewalks are tripping hazards which can result in a lawsuit against the city and the homeowner as well if someone gets hurt. A few of these fixed NB issues have been closed with no work done. Also, one of them in the 172nd block of Northeast 17th Avenue
on the east side, they did do a repair and they were out the same day, which I would very appreciated, but they put asphalt in the area that was completely broken. They didn't fix the sidewalk, they put asphalt. The sidewalks are concrete. What does it say about the city when we do shoddy work like this? I
was told this is a temporary, but I was told the same thing about the sidewalk in front of 1710 and 1720 Northeast 172nd Street a few years ago when the water department had to fix the broken supply line under the sidewalk. It is still there as of today as asphalt.
Secondly, under section 17.2 of our codes, why do we have an open sidewalk on Northeast 171st Street for weeks as homeowner as the homeowner is replacing the driveway? This is a major city street that people are walking and a bus runs. Per code, they should not be
cutting our sidewalks to add the approach to the driveway unless it's been approved by the city engineer. Fortunately, the contract has put out yellow tape around the openings, but handicapped people are being forced to navigate the street around it on a major street. There is a second house on
Northeast 16th Avenue that has cut out a sidewalk to install driveway as well. Per code enforcement, he was doing it without a permit. The sidewalk is still open and I actually stepped down into it while walking my dogs at night and did not see the opening. This was a few
months ago and as of today, it's still open without any barriers to notify pedestrians of the danger. Finally, I need >> about hedges. >> Many homes are installed at a new type of hedge that grows quickly. Per our code section 24-80- C-4-C, hedges in the
front yard are not to exceed 4 feet. Rear interior side and corner side yards are supposed to be higher than 8 ft. >> Can I have 10 more seconds, please? >> Please go ahead, Mr. >> Appreciate that. Um, I remember years ago the chief of police had code officers go out and enforce this as it was a dangerous
situation for his officers. We have not enforced this for many years. Now there are many houses that are 12 feet and higher in the front yard. Are we going to remove the code or are we going to enforce it causing a hardship among our residents? Thank you very much. >> Next speaker,
>> Mr. Kan and then Bruce Lberto. Good evening everyone. My name is Mubar Kazan. Um uh first of all I'd like to mention about the task force. I sent each and every one of you an email about
the task force in which you're usurping the powers of the PUC and you all seem to go along with whatever the mayor says. Seems as though you don't have a backbone to stand up to the mayor. We'll change that by November
next year. I see it. I see the PUC is the body that overlooks the water plant. The mayor chooses not to come to any of the PUC meetings even though he's the leazison. What he did instead,
he got together with an individual whom I really don't want here anymore longer and came up with his task force to usurp the powers of the PUC to overlook the price charges or whatever you call it.
Tonight I come here just in time to see you guys, six five of you usurped your commissioner Linsu. You haven't even second. Why are you afraid of the mayor? Did you guys like plan something? Because I've been I did not miss a
meeting for this year, I think. And I've never came across what you guys did just now that you're going to individually let a commissioner, you know, um defer or an item or and
then you go vote on it. What is that, Mr. Mayor? That is not in North Miami Beach. That is why you will have to go just now, too. I'm telling you, this commissioner, I'm looking straight at you and you're not looking at me.
This is not Survivor Island where you're going to take your vote and either move it this side or this side. It's not going to work. It's going to come back into your face like egg. Commissioner Lindsu brought up two
meetings a month. All I heard is Commissioner Phyllis Smith say she wants to talk longer. Two meetings a month. We used to go home at 8:30. You know that. And then you start getting it at 2:30 in the morning. You think we have time to be sitting
here to listen to your talks? It's ridiculous. Thank you for having me. Next speaker. Bruce Lamberto, Eastern Shores. I was going to speak on this task force. Some of you got a letter on it today. Uh, Mr.
Mayor, I I just I'm just very disappointed that you created this task force. You didn't even talk to the PUC about it. That's your right to do that. But it's just like you've completely circumvented the PUC here and ever since
uh you became the Leosan for it. in these discussions with Miami Gardens, with the county on the water plant, you never show up at our meeting and say, "Hey, listen. How about some back, you know, some support? How about any let's brainstorm on this? What can we do?" You you go it alone. You're the lone ranger.
You go to these places and, you know, without any any any of us to help you. Um, what I'm going to speak about now is this new park that's being put in, the Centennial Park. Um,
bad location for a park, good location for maybe a a sign, you know, signage, you know, electronic sign if you were going to put one there. But we already have enough of those. Um, to put that structure in the middle of that island, very dangerous. The street, it's a
six-lane highway. Uh, and even the street on to the north side of it has a lot of traffic going to the high schools and to the mall. Uh, and additionally, whatever you build there, it's going to look dingy all the time. If you'll notice the buildings along there, they're very dingy looking. That's
because of the diesel fumes from the trucks, the buses that travel that highway continuously spewing the diesel, the soot goes all over everything. You're going to put that on this park structure that you're going to build and you're going to expect people to also cross the highway and the streets to get
to it. So, I would urge you to find an alternate location. I'm assuming it has to be in the CRA for that sign because the what I would have asked you to do is put it down by the Howard Henson Park. The the triangular park that's right ne
across the street from the Henson Park would be a suitable location for a centennial monument and fountain, but I'm not sure the parameters if it has to be in the that's not in the CRA that area there, I don't believe. So I I want you to at least reconsider that um issue
of placement of that structure and maybe not put it there. Thank you very much. Next speaker >> David Zapen I'm David Zapen. I run Zapen Capital
for real estate financing. Wow. Um, yes, we have uh sidewalk problems like the bus stop in front of the CVS uh pharmacy. That's what 6th Avenue, 165th Street. Screws are
sticking out probably right now, which is not good in the dark. And we we have a the bigger problem. I know you want to spread out um the various
marijuana dispensaries. Look, unfortunately, a lot of the retail we lost when about 2004, someone at North Miami Beach was doing ads for the mega store
that's well sucked up a lot of the retail into the donnut hole. So, I don't know um what the plan is on my side, the wrong side of the railroad tracks where those megas and the donut hole is
where they had three entrances, but they bricked up the ones I guess because they were too scared of the high schoolers. this. We had an ugly cold snap Tuesday and I'm hoping that the homeless trust was up to it because I'm the one that
sees and tries to help the the less fortunate. No resources, no name recognition. Um, and I'm
maybe my friends here could explain why uh why this meeting is happening tonight instead of the usual Tuesdays. But um you know please let's all be safe in the countdown to Thanksgiving Doctor
Who Day we have to be better to each other as we're counting down to our centennial. uh and that means due diligence and you know making generic information
easily available. We used to have get physical mail. Now, if I don't have my eye, you know, on the schedule full-time, you know, I can miss stuff. And if I miss stuff, someone who at least tried
to be on the ballot, you know, then we're just talking to to ourselves on either side. So please, I'm not pretending to be
smarter than you. I'm just smart different. So good night. Be safe. >> Thank you. Next speaker, >> Gabriel Selian. And after that is Trisha Harris.
>> Hi, good evening. My name is Gabriel Sultan and I live in the city of North Miami Beach in Skylake. The reason why I'm here tonight is to talk about crime. In Skylake in the past, I would say two months, we've been victims of
carjackings, of home breakings, and we even have videos of neighbors showing a car speeding down 22nd Avenue at 3 in the morning, firing gunshots at, as I said, 3 in the morning. Many of the crimes happen within Miami date
jurisdiction, others within North Miami Beach. As you know, our area is just in the border of both jurisdictions, but criminals really don't care about what jurisdictions they are. To them, Skylake is one neighborhood with no police presence. In fact, our biggest concern
is there's absolutely no police patrol units in Skylake. There's none in the day, none in the in during the night. I think we the only presence we see of the city of North Miami Beach is the code enforcement that they do drive by once a
week. As I said, residents are reporting zero patrolling and criminals know about this and we're located next to major highways. So that makes us an easy target and our families and our neighbors, we feel unprotected.
Um, all of this is happening. Why Skylake's tax role has increased significantly in recent years. We have neighbors paying $70,000 or more in property taxes every year and we're getting less protection. Eastern Shore,
which is a similar community with with a similar tax base, receives more police presence than we do. And for us, that's not fair or equitable. Uh we're here to ask you today to explore a possibility or of maybe getting a grant or financial
assistance so we can get um either a private company to patrol our area at night or maybe coordinate with the police so we can have a structure plan in which our streets are patrolled every night. Thank you. >> Thank you. I know the chief is here. I
know we're supposed to have a discussion coming up real soon on that issue. So looking forward to that discussion. Thank you. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Yes. >> If I may, I did speak to the police chief about this after I was aware and he is working diligently to make it
happen. So, please don't leave without speaking to >> Okay. May will speak right now. Thank you. >> Um, Gabe. Yeah. >> Gabe Gabriel Gab to just to clarify that Eastern Shores has a special taxing district where we pay extra for roving police officers.
>> Okay. And that's something that we could explore with the neighbors. As I say, we're really concerned. >> There's a lot of new families and with small children, so safety is a priority. >> And the other we have two guard houses. One guard house does not have a roving, but
in between a whole bunch of residents, they actually have paid for uh roving officers as well. >> Yeah. I mean, and we're willing to do something like that. I I came today with one neighbor, but we have a group chat of 90 plus neighbors. >> Okay, that's great. And that's something that we would like to coordinate
obviously with the city. >> All right. >> I think the main issue is just that we're in the middle of Miami date and North Miami Beach. So we're like in a gray area. >> All right. >> Good night. >> Next speaker. >> Also get in touch with Commissioner Steinberg's office. Be sure to get in touch with them.
>> Okay. Thank you. >> Next speaker. >> Are you rushing me? >> No. No. >> I'm joking. Laugh. Good evening. My name is Trisha Harris. I'm here for Highland Village. Um,
couple of days ago, we had a car speeding around our roundabout. It flipped over, broke a tree, and if it would have happened a second or two later, I mean, excuse me, earlier, it would have hit a child and we wouldn't
have that child here today. But I'm thanking the police department for coming out so quickly. rescue coming out quickly and public works for cleaning up the mess. The next day, first thing in the morning before 7 o'clock or 8 o'clock in the morning, it
was cleaned up. And um even with our roundabout and the signs, we still have speeders in there. And I don't want to see another child hit or killed. And this happened just
minutes after three buses dropped off our children. So, I just wanted to thank the police department and public works and you guys have a very nice evening. >> Thank you. Next speaker,
>> Kently Jolton. Is it working? It should type it one more time. >> Okay. Good evening, mayor and commissioners. My name is Kitley uh and I reside in Ulita. Um two things.
First of all, I would like to thank um the beautifification team led by Sam Bernard who was here on Saturday. Sam was on top of this bucket trimming our trees and with the other guys, but I
couldn't even recognize him because he had so much dust and things all over him. Uh, I think that um those guys need to be nominated for employee of the year because they they do a lot and especially Sam Bernard who's always here
in the city. Now, I'm about to begin. I'm here tonight because one of my neighbors, his name is John Alise. He couldn't be here tonight and he asked me, he sent me an email and he asked me to read it. Um this is proposal for EV
charging infrastructure in Ulita Park. Uh to these team mayor and city commissioners of North Miami Beach from John Alise uh subject urgent need and substantial benefits of expanding
electric vehicle charging infrastructure within North Miami Beach. Um it's very long so I'm going to take some of it. He said the urgent need in alignment with modern city planning. Uh dear Mayor
Michael Joseph and members of the city he put city council city commissioners I am writing to advocate for a crucial investment in our community's future. The narrow spread implementation of electric vehicle charging station across
key locations in NMBB. This initiative is not merely a modern uh amenity but a necessary step to ensure our city remain competitive, sustainable and attractive to resident and b residents and business
in the rapid rapid evolving 21st century. Um, you talk about the shifting of transportation landscape. Uh, addressing range anx um, oh, I'm sorry, don't have my glasses.
Anxiety. Many potential EV owners experience range anxiety. The fear of running out of battery. Charge before reaching a destination or charging point. Installing level two in public areas like municipal parking lots,
libraries, parks, and commercial zone will directly address this making EV a viable stress-free option for all community members. Uh there's also about supporting current resident environmental and public health uh
imperative reducing air pollution climate change mitigation uh economic competitiveness and tourism uh and also uh strategic benefits and a call to action. So I will email it to uh
you all and you can see what he would like to see done. So thank you very much. and he also has his phone number in case you all want to reach out to him. Thank you. >> Thank you. Next speaker, >> last sign speaker, former Councilman
David Templar. >> Good evening everybody. David Templar, 3260 Northeast 164th Street. I specifically asked to be last because I've always been told that the last word is the first one remembered. So having
said that, I'm here for myself, for my direct neighbors on behalf of the ESPOA organization as well. And I'm glad to have followed Trish and Ketley because I heard thank yous from them. And I wanted to thank each and every one of you,
every one of you, including Commissioner Jean, who's not here, because we in this neighborhood have felt ignored for some time, but through the efforts of Mr. Plotkin, our city manager, who we're very pleased with, and um Miss Mckenry
over at public works. We've managed to get quite a bit done, and the neighborhood is very appreciative of it. It's not only lowhanging lines or derelict lines. The landscaping that was destroyed has been replaced. The uplighting has been repaired. Uh some of
the hedges have been replaced. The collapsed drainage is being addressed. We've got speed control now on 164th Street. And I can tell you, I've been on that street for 30 years. Never has anything made such a dramatic
impact on that street alone than the speed control that we've now got. And again, thank you to Ken and to Andrew and to all of their staff members and to each of you. Thank you very much for really paying attention and trying to do the right thing. And I know it's not
always easy, particularly in the face of criticism, but we're here to thank you and I hope each of you as well as the staff and their families have a wonderful Thanksgiving. >> Thank Thank you. Next speaker, medical, >> that was the last sign. Speaker, mayor.
>> All right. Next item on the agenda is announcements. Take it away. This month, there is so much happening in the city of North Miami Beach. From community planning sessions and cleanup days to family events and fitness
events, it's a month full of connection, celebration, and engagement. Hurricane Melissa relief emergency supply drive. We're supporting those affected by Hurricane Melissa through an emergency supply drive. You can help by
donating personal care items, shelter, and comfort supplies and food and safety essentials. Donations will be accepted until December 1st. For more information, contact the city manager's office or the mayor and commission's
office. Celebrate storytelling within our community at Celebrate Local Voices happening Tuesday, November 18th from 6:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. Enjoy an evening with local authors as they share their
writing journeys and creative insights. For more information, contact NMBB Discovery Library. Be a part of the conversation at workshop number three of the North Miami Beach TOD plan. Learn about land use and
mobility options for the proposed 151st Street Station as we shape the future surrounding local transit. Join us Wednesday, November 19th from 6:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. at the Marjgery and Williams McDonald Center.
Discover your musical potential at the NMBB Jazz Academy orientation and clinic taking place Wednesday, November 19th at 5:00 p.m. Beginners and intermediates are welcome with lessons starting twice
a week beginning December 1st. Space is limited, so reach out to economic development at citynb.com for more information. Sessions will be held at Allen Park Youth Center. Hear
a powerful testimony at Broken Wings, a presentation by a survivor of child abuse, encouraging teens to speak up. This important session takes place Thursday, November 20th at 4:30 p.m. For
more information, contact the NMB Discovery Library. The tax collector mobile office will be at North Miami Beach City Hall on Friday, November 21st from 9:00 a.m. to 400 p.m. providing convenient access to
essential services. Space is limited. Register now to secure your appointment. For more information, please contact the city manager's office. Several Thanksgiving food distribution events will take place in and around North Miami Beach, offering support to
families ahead of the holiday. On Friday, November 21st, Commissioner Mickey Steinberg will host a driveth through food distribution from 9:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m. at Grrenolds Park. On Saturday, November 22nd, Commissioner
Marleene Bastine will host a turkey giveaway from 10:00 a.m. to 1 PM at Oak Grove Park. The city of North Miami Beach will be holding its annual turkey drive-thru distribution for NMBB residents only on
Saturday, November 22nd from 9:00 a.m. to 11 a.m. Enjoy an afternoon of food, friendship, and community at the Senior Lunchon sponsored by Mount Si Friday, November 21st from 11:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. at the
Marjgery and Williams McDonald Center. To register, contact NM Parks and Recreation. Stay active and energized with free community Zumba on Wednesday, December 3rd from 6:00 p.m. to 7:00 p.m. This fun
and engaging class takes place at the Ulita Community Center. For more information, contact NMBB Parks and Recreation. Get an early look at upcoming concepts during workshop number four of the North
Miami Beach TOD plan. Here are preliminary recommendations for the 151st Street Station as we shape the future surrounding local transit. Wednesday, December 3rd from 6:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. at the Marjorie and William McDonald Center.
Take the next step toward home ownership with firsttime home buying program. Session number three, choosing a lender and getting pre-qualified. Join us from 6:00 p.m. to 7:30 p.m. at the Marjorie and Williams McDonald Center. For more
information, reach out to Economic Development. Access free medical services at UMC Mobile Health Clinic on December 7th from 1:30 p.m. to 4:30 p.m. at NMBB City
Hall. Receive primary care, pediatrics, mental health support, screenings, and referrals at no cost with no insurance or appointment required. For more information, contact NMBB Mayor and Commission office.
Make a difference in your neighborhood at the Winward Community Cleanup Sunday, December 7th. Join our public works, code compliance, parks, and recreation and police department in partnership with the Cabala Center. For more
information, contact NMB Solid Waste. Save the date for Snow Fest and Holiday Parade on December 13th from 5:00 p.m. to 1000 p.m. at NMBB City Hall. Bring the whole family for a magical evening
of winter fun, music, activities, and holiday cheer. For more details, contact NMBB Parks and Recreation. Join us for the Manora lighting ceremony on December 18th at 700 p.m. at NMBB
City Hall. Celebrate the season with light, community, and tradition. For more information, contact NMBB Parks and Recreation. There's something for everyone this month in North Miami Beach. Stay involved, stay connected, and learn more
at citynm.com. Thank you. Next item is Commissioner reports. Madam clerk, >> Commissioner Sherno. >> Good evening everybody. First of all, um one of one correction on the slides. I don't know where
Jasmine is. Um you forgot Coastal. Coastal is one of the participants who's been supporting our um every time we do a cleanup. So, thank you, Coastal. All right, Mr. Mayor, I'd like to make a
motion that we make Ahmed Nickbin our new interim manager because our current interim manager wishes to not be the manager anymore. um in not so many words
um he wants to give up the reigns and I would believe that Hammed is a applicant who is put in an application to be one of our managers now and I think it's a great training ground or a position to
be in and actually learn the job and see if we like them and if he likes it. So I think it's a wonderful opportunity comments if you >> Yeah, I'm not my comments. >> Madame Clerk, next. >> Excuse me. I second. >> Oh, no. I'm not done with my whole
>> Oh, no. Go finish. >> But I made a motion. Do I want to Do you want to handle it now or >> No, we can we can we can uh possibly, you know, right now we're just doing commission reports, so I just want to follow protocol. So, Madame Clerk, I mean, if you can continue on,
Commissioner Turnoff. >> Just for the record, Mr. Attorney, I second um um Commissioner Chernov's u motion. >> All right. So, I'll bring it back somewhere. >> Go ahead, Commissioner Chernov. >> Okay. Um the Ketley's remarks about electric vehicles. I've had an electric
vehicle for the last month and the It's wonderful that we have it at city hall, but try to use it. >> It's crowded all the time. And I mean that. and I've had to leave the car there on Saturday night so that and pick
it up on Sunday. That's the only way I could get one of the chargers that were at city hall. So, there is a huge demand for those charging stations now in all of our communities, I'm sure. >> And, you know, it's a wonderful thing to
for the environment and for the community to have the ability to do that. All right. Um, hedge height. For those of you who don't know, we've been laxed on hedge height for the last couple of years. And I don't know if
it's in our code that it's lax or if we just totally don't do it anymore. But when you put an 18 ft hedge on the front of your building, your house, that's a detriment to the police department. The police department can't drive by and see
somebody at your door that's not supposed to be there or somebody lurking in your yard. The reason for the 4 foot in the front was exactly that, so that the police could drive by and see if everything's okay and possibly stop. And I know we all want the police there more
and more and more. Um, but the hedge height helps that. And I know security and I know that you build these mega monster houses and you want that, you know, seclusion, but it actually you're closing yourself
in and taking yourself away from harm's way possibly. All right. Um, there was also I wanted to congratulate Commissioner Jean, Vice Mayor Jean, who put on an excellent education seminar, state of the education year. She had the
superintendent of Miami Dade schools here and a lot of the principal, our three local principles came and it was an excellent excellent program that you put on. So congratulations, Vice Mayor. I want to wish everybody a happy
Thanksgiving. Oh, and one more thing, the um Veterans Day ceremony. That's why the red, white, and blue tie. Okay, cuz the Veterans Day was last week and we did a wonderful job as a city. So,
congratulations to everybody for the right >> the procedure that we put on. It was very much appreciated. And a special thanks to the police department who ran it and to our chief who has instated instigated a button to wear on the
uniform that signifies that they served in the military. That's a wonderful thing, chief. And thank you. And that you can see that on a police uniform. It's now part of their uniform because of that, chief. So, congratulations.
Thank you, Mr. Mayor. >> Next report. >> Commissioner Flormon. >> Thank you so much. Uh, first of all, thank you everyone who um is here this evening for taking the time out to participate in our commission meeting. Uh, also I wanted to highlight that
November 20th is Give Miami Day. So for those of um you who would like to participate, that is an opportunity for um for all of us really to contribute to nonprofit organizations in our community that are doing good work. So um I encourage you all to participate in Give
Miami Day on November the 20th. Um in addition to that, I would also like to send out our condolences. Um because you guys know as of the past couple of weeks we as a community have lost um two
officers. One in the city of Miami Beach um who uh lost his life in a terrible motorcycle accident. Mr. um David and I want to make sure I pronounce the last name right. Cahuso uh 33 years old. And
um in addition to that um Miami Dade police officer Mr. Devon Haramo, 27 years old, lost his life in the line of duty. So, um I ask that we all remember them and also um pray for their loved ones uh who are suffering and all of
their um all of their fellow officers as well. Also, um, the state of education. I know that Commissioner Chernoff brought that up, but we had the opportunity to welcome our superintendent of Miami Day County Public Schools here, as well as a
lot of administrators, school teachers from this feeder pattern, North Miami Beach High School, Fulfill Elementary, JFK Middle School, and tons of other schools in the area, parents, students, everyone participated, community organizations, and it was a very well attended event. Um, and there was a lot
of good information and our partnership with Miami Day County Public Schools is one that is strong and we look forward to continuing uh that partnership. In addition to that, um, happy holidays. Thanksgiving is uh, next week. So, um,
you know, we we wish everyone happy Thanksgiving and, uh, we, you know, pray that you guys have a safe and healthy, uh, Thanksgiving with your family. Uh in addition to that um you know we we talk about process and procedure and agenda
items. Uh we've at Nauseium we've been kind of asking staff to help us out with this and that's so so important that um when it comes to when it comes to a a refresher on how we do our process and
procedure that we're all on the same page. That would be helpful. If I'm missing something, let me know. Um but you know that would be helpful. Um, and as to how we get items on the agenda as well, that's super important. Um, because we need to streamline our meetings and we want to make sure that
we do things efficiently. So, aside from that, thank you so much and we look forward to an expedient meeting. >> Commissioner Smith, >> thank you. Good evening everybody. Uh first and foremost, let me congratulate
Commissioner Schmuckler who yesterday was named one of the 10 women of the year from the association and that was from a woman that had started it actually 10 years ago. The purpose is empowerment of women
not only for each other but for the community. So, it was an honor to be there even though there was no parking. Uh, >> oh yeah, there there is >> um I also had been told and I hope it's
going to happen. If not, I'll take my time to discuss the process of our hiring a manager. I need a commitment for my own peace of mind that when the deadline comes which is the
21st I believe >> that then we will two weeks later maybe December I don't know 5th 7th two weeks later everybody will give their three names >> because we had that process we had that commitment
>> and only three not even a majority gave their names >> so I'm here. Something's brought up tonight that if we have a commitment by January, nothing much happens in December anyway,
but by January, the mid of January, we're going to have a new manager. We're going to do our due diligence. We're going to give the names. We're going to have the rest of December to interview everybody, and we're going to come back in January and get a new manager.
If that process works, we're we're six weeks, two months away. >> So, I I don't know. Anyway, I want to get off the sandbox, but I want to get I want to get it to be a process that we go through because I too have spoken to
Mr. Platin. Maybe I yelled at Mr. Platin. I'm trying to remember, but I I discussed with him that we need some teeth in this city. We need to have management and he of of the
first one to say you're right. You're right. So we appreciate you. We know your capabilities are phenomenal. But management is people that are tough. People that know that they can say no
and it's all right. They have the shoulders to be able to handle it. When the people try to push them down, they're going to pop back up. So we need that. Um, you know, this is a holiday season where families get together. I am so blessed with my family. I keep
wondering, what did I do? Maybe I could write a book. What in the world did I do when those babies were born that I got such amazing children? It certainly wasn't me. And I'm not sure that I deserve it. But this is a time to be
with your family. This is a time to be safe. This is a time to make good memories. I want everybody to have a a happy, healthy, wonderful Thanksgiving. And remember, what you do at that table,
what you do that weekend, what you do with each other is a memory. It's up to you to make it a good memory and not leave them with a bad impression. With that, I have good memories for many, many years of a dear friend, Bob Robert Whitebrook, who
passed away this past month. And to him and his family, he had a beautiful life, fabulous family, but you know what? He knew how to live it. He knew how to enjoy it. And that's the whole key to a wonderful life is look at that cup. It's
half full. Stop looking at it as half empty. So that's my comments for tonight because I can't handle the dissension that you feel up here. If one of the commissioners wants to do something and speak about something, why
would any of us let us speak? Let him speak. I I I'm not understanding how that's doing that myself. But I just say, let's remember it's Thanksgiving. Let's be grateful for each other and let's be grateful for North Miami Beach. God bless you all.
>> Thank you, Commissioner Smuckler. >> Thank you. Um you know, I was unable to attend the um school program last week because I was speaking at a Hispanic affairs board. But um I do
have a question to the manager for that. So my aid was helping the whole week prior to the event was helping with that event. So um is the money that she's
getting paid for that week coming out of the funds of that event? I mean, is that who's who funded that event and how is how are who's getting paid from from that event and >> the >> commissioner? So, the state of education
event. >> Um, so that's funded uh through sponsorships and through what whatever contingency that the vice mayor is providing, but that's going to be fully paid by by her contingency or sponsorship that she she arrives. Um,
typically I only charge when it comes to overtime uh with staff costs. Um, but I can always relook at uh doing something different in the future, but but traditionally um I'm I'm usually charging when it uh when it's an overtime cost.
>> No, my aid the the the whole week prior to that event, my aid was used to to to organize and work on that event. And I was just wondering if if the funds of that event was paying for it. I see.
>> Okay. Thank you. Um also, um um Commissioner Turnoff, I'm not sure if you um read the what is it a resolution um that um manager Platkin said he would
stay till February 1st. >> So hopefully by then we >> No, we will. We will. >> No, we will. You're right. By then we should have So I'm not sure if we should have a another interim manager because that really doesn't look good to have an
interim interim manager. So um I I I'm okay. You know, it's just a a few more weeks and the holidays are coming anyways. So I'm not sure why we have to to do this now when in January we'll be having. We're in November. November's
almost over. So, that's my opinion as well. Uh, I want to wish everybody a happy Thanksgiving. I want to remind everybody the minora lighting is going to be December 18th at 700 p.m. And um
I'm I'm so sorry to our police department because when a police officer from another city or county or or within in any state when a police officer um dies especially in the line of duty um
it's it's their family as well. Our police officers have suffered because one of their own has passed. And my sympathies go out to not just Miami Beach and not just the county, but to our police department as well. Thank you
always for protecting all of us. Thank you so much. Um and lastly, I just want to give my sympathies to the um actually to the son and to the family of Magda Amiati. Yeah,
>> Magda um served on the PUC board and she served on some other boards as well in the past and she lived in um North Miami Beach for about 20 years I think it was now and um we >> her son still lives here. >> Yes, her son still lives here and um you
will be missed and thank you for Magda as well for your commitment to uh North Miami Beach. >> May she rest in peace. >> May she rest in peace. Commissioner Sue. >> Thank you. Good evening everyone and uh to my colleagues and staff, our
residents and all of those who are interested. Well, today is my mother's birthday and um she hasn't been well as you all know and I was I am her only child. I did ask her if she would like me to be by her side,
but she said that it's more important because um the 42,000 residents of North Miami Beach need you as well. So um I love you, Mom. Thank you for understanding that I need to be here. And that's the kind of selflessness that
she um sets an example for me to uh to keep me grounded. Um secondly, I want to recognize Vice Mayor Jean, even though she's not here. um very successful state of education event with um Superintendent Dotres.
It was a very uplifting to see families, educators, partners all come together for the future of our children. Congratulations again. It was a meaningful and impactful day and I'm glad that NMB was the ground zero of the state, the first ever state of education
in Florida or maybe in the world. Um so today I have a couple of things that I wanted to mention. I had requested for some referrals that have been denied or were not seconded by my colleagues. Uh we have a hurricane Melissa that had no
resolution in the backup documents. We have a deferred request for 9.7 which is emergency drainage. I don't have any problems with the drainage project. I have a problem with the way that the money is being moved around in our city.
We are now using general fund CIP to fund the storm water. This is actually a state statute violation. I will definitely be voting no on this consent agenda. Defer number 9.8 168. The yes center sliding doors. This is a public
uh public works facilities management fund. Uh we are restricted. We should be using money that is not allowed which we're trying to use CIP funds. CIP only goes to CIP. Um this is also violating
our own um resolution 2023 108. Uh I also deferred 9.9 which is um Eastern Shores Paving. Again, I'm not against the project itself. The memo is incorrect in the backup documents. They used the memo from 9.7. On top of that,
the drainage pipes quote unquote are at the end of their service life and it was not budgeted for and we just passed budget season September 30th. So I don't know how we are justifying all this move and where this money is coming from and
where this money is going. So that with that said um I'm also deferring 11.6 which is a fund from coastal I think that this is uh this is not the a good use of funds because if you read in the resolution it actually says something to
like we don't know where that money is going. We have we are allocating $100,000 to move money around so that we can use the coastal funds to help not to provide food for residents but to find sources of where that free food is
coming from and that is going to pay somebody and it's not specified and I think that we have to stop this kind of abuse in terms of reading doing our agendas and doing our resolutions and all this it's there's no financial or
fiscal responsibility ility involved. Now to the one that I prepared for us um staffing um as we all know in the mid in 20 thou a few years ago the staffing level in our city was in the mid 400s. Today we
have 515. So as of the budget time we had 505. We grew by 10 in the past two months. Um that's you know more positions than we I don't know what we're doing with it but um Mr. City Manager, I'd like to ask
that you direct the finance director or and the HR director to bring back a draft of like a a position personnel position policy that we should have like how many positions are there?
When does it stop growing? I'd like to see that. Um, then that I'd like to see that the policy includes no new positions midyear, no new part-time to full-time conversions without approval, reclassification and reorganization
without full like none of this. This is all nos uh without fi full fiscal impact. Public reporting tying staffing to visible service improvements. This is about discipline and transparency. You know, we get a lot
more employees, but we still see trash on the streets. We still see services that are unfulfilled. This is not fair to our residents. And we're spending when we hire more full-time employees, that means there's pension involved. We are going to pay for this throughout the
entire many generations to come. So, I'd like to make sure that when we do hire, we hire great people, which we already have. We don't need anymore at the moment. and we would like to see what work is being done since we are outsourcing a lot of the things that we
used to do in house. Um number two, my res the resolution 2025144. It's a problematic procedure gatekeeper that I find that um this is a task force that was walked on in September. I was
not at this meeting and um the city attorney had written it up and they both walked it on to the JS. I don't think it's about him, it's about him. Uh the resolution requires that any water related matter, legislation,
contracts, billing issues, capital improvements, rate items must first go through the task force on water charges. When I asked who the task force members are, I
was very surprised. I noticed that Miss Jasmine Joseph is on the task force, which I'm very surprised about that. I never knew that she had an expertise in water in deciding whether we should have a water contract or not. I'm not putting her on the spot. I think she's great at
doing PR, but when it comes to a water charge task force, this I think we must reconsider that. I'd like to know what's going on with that. So, as Mr. Lombberto said, it duplicates and um conflicts with the charter that we have on public
utilities commission. This is an you PUC is already an oversight authority. The task force is not in the charter. It overlaps boards and identical subject matters create structural conflicts. It restricts legislative authority of the
commission. No board, especially a non-charter task force, can be empowered to block or delay items from reaching elected officials. Part C, it opens sunshine law and ethics risk. Parallel
bodies reviewing the same water matters can create offrecord influence and lack of transparency. And finally, it is it can paralyze operations. A mandatory 30-day delay on urgent water matters is operationally dangerous. So, this resolution
concentrates control of information, not transparency. It is a procedural choke hold and it can does not withstand legal scrutiny. Um, my direction on this one, I'd like to kindly ask Mr. city attorney uh to write a legal opinion, whether
R2025144 improperly restricts commission authority, whether it conflicts with the charter established PU PU, the Sunshine Law and ethics implication, the legality of the 30-day mandatory delay. If this
opinion is not prepared, I will request the city manager to place a resolution on the December agenda to resin resolution 2025144 outright. Please make sure that that would be on the agenda in December should um the
attorney not provide any legal opinion. I don't want us to get into any more trouble than we are already in. Um number three is the ARPA funds. Um, this has been spoken about since last year. We're coming up to a full year
anniversary here. We can either cut a cake, celebrate, or, you know, find out what the truth is, what what's going on with it. I'm requesting that the ARPA compliance and performance review. So, it's it's not about an audit. I want to know if all the expenses were in
compliance and I want to know if that money had actually been spent because it turns out that we had that money in our possession. It had been spent in different ways. Some of the ways are not in compliance and in the ones that are in compliance were never actually spent.
So there's a there's a delay in that. So, I would like you um through the city manager, I'd like to request that the CFO do a breakdown, a comprehensive accounting, a performance evaluation, a compliance analysis, any findings from the ARPA task force, um a full breakdown
of expenditures, remaining balances, compliance status, performance metrics, did these investments improve measurable outcomes, a recommendation on whether a third-party audit is warranted? if an audit or a task force report already exists, it has not been presented to us
and I'd like to see it if we already have one. So, and um finally, I'm done. Okay. Um as we enter Thanksgiving season, on a lighter note, a time meant for reflection and gratitude, I want to
thank our staff, my colleagues on the deis, and our residents who continue to hold us accountable and engaged. This job requires difficult conversations and sometimes uncomfortable truths, but it's the only path to restoring trust and
strengthening our city. I'm grateful for the for the passion our community brings because it reminds me every day why this work matters. Serving North Miami Beach is one of the greatest honors of my life. And as we approach Thanksgiving, I just want to let you
know that I am grateful for this opportunity to serve you and I'm committed to doing this work with transparency, humility, and integrity. Thank you, >> Vice Mayor Jean. >> Good evening, everyone. Um, I'll yield
my time. >> Okay, ma'am. I will thank you everyone for being here. Thanksgiving is tomorrow. I mean, tomorrow. next week. Oh my god. >> It's every day. We should be thankful
every day. That being said, I'd like to echo the same sentiments for um the passing of Magdala who served the POC um for quite some time. Um my condolences to her and her family been here for for a very long time. Um I'd like to thank the staff for
all the great work. Um, I know that, um, you continue to, a lot of times you guys go out thank yous and, um, appreciation, but, we do know what you guys, you know, put in day in day out with little to no support. Um, but we all know that you guys are doing it for the right reasons
outside of a paycheck. And we appreciate every each and each and every one of you either here or watching at uh, where you are. And that being said, I would like to have an expedient meeting. Madame clerk, let's go to consent consent agenda. Thank you. Yes.
Mr. Mayor, I'd like to ask the attorney a question. Mr. Attorney, was that vote on the task force the last commission meeting? >> I believe it was two commission meetings. >> Two commission meeting though. Then I I
would like whatever it is to um whatever it takes to bring it back for discussion. I wasn't aware of who was on that task committee. It's been mentioned over and over that the it's the mayor's task committee. I read it three times. I never saw the mayor's name, but I do
want to know who's on it because if what I just heard is true, we may have to make some adjustments to that >> memo was going to clear that up. That was being requested. I'm fine with that to be quite frank, but that's something that >> and I'm happy to do that. Let me just say, Commissioner, just so it said, the
purpose of that task force is we're in the middle of commencing some litigation. There were public presentations being made at the county commission. And the purpose of that was simply to be sure that the city, as much as possible, had its ducks in a row,
that we were speaking with one voice when the scrutiny at the county was on us. And as we move into challenging this unfair ordinance in court, there was just it's an not to block or prevent. It
was the commission's own vote, but the purpose was to have the commission and and the the city speaking with a single voice in a line. I'm I'm certainly happy to prepare a memo, but I'll just say for the record, it does not have in my view
any sunshine implications. It does not have because it's not a a body that it's not that kind of corporate body. It is not in my view uh something that has ethics implications either. This is principally staff of the city trying to
help align our position so that the city speaks with one voice in so far as possible. I mean any individual can certainly give uh voice to their own point of view but speaking officially for the city that was the purpose of it.
I'm happy to explicate that in a memo >> and can there be a correction that it indicates that it's for a sole purpose rather than open-ended to >> I'll try to clarify what the purpose is. what's what is open-ended is is kind of
an open-ended question, but I will try to clarify that's why this was done >> and that the task force is limited to the purpose of having one speaker for for whatever >> one voice >> one voice but let's make sure it's
whatever and is announced. Just for the record, when people constantly say that the city needs to do a better job of communicating what its position is and responding to public attacks, that's the reason why
there is a representative of the communications department on the task force because we can think all the brilliant thoughts we want, but if we don't adequately communicate them to the public, not only in our city, But in the
county, it doesn't matter how brilliant our thoughts are. And so a specific >> effort was made to ensure that whatever the city had to say to combat this unfair ordinance that we were making
sure we were doing so in a way that would communicate our position adequately to the general public. So that's why there's a communication. >> Mr. M. Um, Commissioner Civ, I don't know if you mind if I interject real quick. I love the the statements that
you made um Mr. Attorney, but we haven't even gotten a report as commissioners from this task force. We haven't even been able to appoint our own representative from the task force. So to say it's one voice really kind of says it's the mayor's voice.
>> No, no, let me be very clear. Um because I want to make this very clear. I I want the memo to be presented because I before we go into discussion because like I said, we're in the middle of litigation. We are. And also I'd like to point out during the last county commission hearing that they had a video
was pulled out and statements were being utilized that was very detrimental to to our city's position. We were trying to limit that type of exposure because like I like I said we are in a very acrimonious um situation with the county. So, please present that memo as
soon as you can for clarification before the before the commission that it's not this um that is not uh not pro that it is proper that they can understand the the the specifics of it because I think that's needed. That being said, Madame Clerk, can you please go
>> I I just want to say to you the clarification on this is so imperative. The what goes on out in the world, the real world, and what goes on in our city, unfortunately, just makes it blow up further and
further. the fact that you just explained about having somebody with communications as long as they're brought up to speed what they're talking about that but you know without rhyme or reason what you hear makes a huge difference. I think the best line we
heard tonight was, and I don't remember, maybe it was from Terrence, but he said, "Either enforce your code or change the code." And I'm saying to you, if we're going to be presented with things to
vote, we need to understand, not you, the attorney, you the charter officers, we need to understand the more depth of it because it doesn't make sense to say no. So you say yes, but then you hear what the public says and you say, "Wait a minute. Maybe I should have said no."
>> Commissioner, I'll just say to you, as I have recently in our conversations, there is not a time when I'm not happy to answer questions. If if a member of this deis has a question, please reach out to me. I know every one of you has
my cell. You can text me. You can call me. >> The public needs to hear it, too. Well, I believe that I'm less of a publicfacing position. My job is to try to advise the administration and advise this deis. I'm
happy to give you the answers or any of you the answers to your questions so you know how to respond to public inquiries, but I'm not a policy setter. I can give you information. I'm happy always to do
that and you can use that information as you any of you see fit to respond to the public when you hear from them. I'm always happy to give you the info. >> I got it. >> Thank you. Madam clerk, can you ma commissioner Sue? With all due respect, Madam Clerk, can you please go to the
next item? Thank you. >> I just need to point out something. >> Madam clerk, please. Madam clerk, thank you. >> Civility. >> Madam clerk, please. >> The next item is consent. Please um can we attorney motion to introduce >> motion
>> and a second please >> second Mr. Attorney? >> Yes. Uh consent agenda item 9.1 is regular commission meetings m meeting minutes of June 17th 2025.
>> Mr. Attorney I'm sorry to interrupt. Um you're the parliamentarian in our meeting at the moment. I requested two items to be pulled from the consent agenda to be discussed in the legislation. You know, I I believe that um I checked with you just now. You
agreed with me that it is within my right to do so. So, I would >> I only heard one. What was What do you mean to sir? Ma'am, I'm sorry. What was >> Oh, I know. I I think you were had the item with um the clerk.
It's in Hang on. >> I'm unclear. I'm sorry. So, um I had >> also in her poll. >> Thank you. It was a poll for 9.6 and 9.22. Um, it's my understanding that
our rules that were adopted uh before I was here, it's my understanding that our rules permit items on consent to be discussed if if that's requested. That's my understanding, but I don't
presside at the meeting. >> There's a presiding. To be cleared though, I don't think the most tipped to be clear, I don't think there is a a mo given the fact that we're going through a consent item to have a motion presented during is not gerine. Can we continue on with the consent, please?
City attorney, you're reading it out. >> Thank you. >> Are they reading consent? So, please, city attorney, can you please move forward? Thank you. >> Item 9.2 Two is special commission
meeting minutes of October 6, 2025. Item 9.3 is commission conference minute minutes of October 21st, 2025. Item 9.4 is regular commission meeting
minutes of October 21st, 2025. Item 9.5 has been deferred to a later date. Item 9.6, 6 resolution number R2025-166 reaffirming the city's participation in the sister city program sponsored by
Mayor Joseph, Commissioner Smith, Commissioner Smuckler, Commissioner Flurond, and Commissioner Chernoff. a resolution of the mayor and city commission in the city of North Miami Beach, Florida, reaffirming participation in the sister city program and authorizing the exploration of new
partnerships with cities in Israel, Morocco, Taiwan, and Haiti. Authorizing the city manager or designated do all things necessary to effectuate this resolution, providing for conflicts, providing for scriveners errors, providing for severability, and
providing for an effective date. Item 9.7, resolution number R2025-167, approving the reallocation of capital improvement program funds for emergency drainage repairs, Eastern Shores, 164th Street, Northeast 35th Avenue to
Northeast 29th Avenue. Sponsored by the interim public works director resolution of the mayor and city commission of the city of North Miami Beach, Florida. Approving a budget amendment to the fiscal year 20242 25 capital improvement
program CIP budget to reallocate funds for urgent drainage infrastructure repairs along Northeast 164th Street in the amount of $450,000. authorizing the city manager or designate to do all
things necessary to effectuate this resolution providing for scriveners errors providing for severability and providing for an effective date. Item 9.8 8 resolution number R2025-168 approving the reallocation of capital
improvement program funds for yes center door replacement sponsored by the interim public works director resolution of the mayor and city commission of the city of North Miami Beach Florida authorizing a budget amendment to the fiscal year 202526
capital improvement program budget um to reallocate funds for the replacement of the yes center doors in the amount of $22,974 authorizing the city manager or
designated to do all things necessary to effectuate this resolution providing for scriveners errors providing for severability and providing for an effective date item 9.9 resolution number R2025-169 approving the reallocation of capital
improvement program funds for Eastern Shores paving project sponsored by the interim public works director resolution of the mayor and city commission of the city of North Miami Beach, Florida, approving a budget amendment to the fiscal year 202526 capital improvement program budget to
reallocate funds for urgent repayment repavement along Northeast 168th Street and Northeast 171st Street in the amount of $253,000. authorizing the city manager or designated to do all things necessary to
effectuate this resolution, providing for scriveners errors, providing for severability, providing for an effective date. Item 9.10, 10 resolution number R2025-170 approving a task order with Craraven Thompson and Associates for the
preparation of an updated there's a typo there of an updated storm water master plan sponsored by the interim public works director resolution the mayor and city commission in the city of North Miami Beach Florida approving a task order for professional engineering services for the updated storm water
master plan in an amount not to exceed $115,944 4 with Craraven Thompson and Associates, Inc. under their continuing services agreement for professional consulting services and authorizing the city manager or designate to do all things
necessary to effectuate this resolution. Providing for conflicts, providing for and subject to, excuse me, and subject to the budget appropriations and availability of funds, providing for scriveners errors, providing for severability, and providing for an effective date. Item 9.11, resolution
number R2025-171, approving a task order with Des DeCar Consultants for grant services sponsored by the chief of police. A resolution of the mayor and city commission in the city of North Miami Beach, Florida, approving task order for
grant services in an amount budgeted an excuse me, an annual budgeted amount not to exceed $75,000 with the CAR Consulting LLC under the RFQ-24-017-SG grant services pre-qualification pool and authorizing the city manager
designated all things necessary to effectuate this resolution. providing for conflicts and subject to the budget appropriation and availability of funds providing for scriveners errors providing for severability and providing for an effective date. Item 9.12,
resolution number R2025-171, approving the ratification of emergency repair of gravity sewer line sponsored by the NMB water director. A resolution of the mayor and city commission in the city of North Miami Beach, Florida, ratifying a purchase order with Southern
Underground Industries, Inc. for emergency sewer line repairs for a budgeted amount not to exceed $74,500. authorizing the city manager or designate to do all things necessary to effectuate this resolution, providing
for conflicts, running for scriveners errors, providing for severability, and providing for an effective date. Item 9.13, resolution number R2025-173, approving a change order with Ref Telis Financial Consultants for storm water
and solid waste rate study sponsored by the interim public works director. Resolution the mayor and city commission in the city of North Miami Beach, Florida authorizing a change order in the contract with Rafelis Financial Consultants, Inc. increasing the
estimated expenditure by $161,080 for Financial Management Consulting Services, authorizing the city manager or designate to do all things necessary to effectuate this resolution. providing for conflicts, providing for scriveners errors, providing for severability, and
providing for an effective date. Item 9.14, resolution number R2025-174, approving an agreement with ACOM for a feasibility study brought by the NMB water director.
A resolution of the mayor and city commission of the city of North Miami Beach, Florida, approving a task order for professional engineering services for a feasibility study evaluating two city-owned sites for a new wastewater treatment plant, WWTP,
and public access reuse system in an amount not to exceed $499,465 with AOM Technical Services, Inc. under the continuing services agreement for architectural engineering, landscape architect and surveying services for
professional consulting services and authorizing the city manager or designate to do all things necessary to effectuate this resolution. for running for conflicts and subject to the budget appropriation and availability of funds providing for scriveners errors
providing for severability and providing for an effective date. Item 9.15 resolution number R2025-175 approving the soul source purchase of ammunition with Florida Bullet Inc. sponsored by the chief of police. A resolution of the mayor and city
commission of the city of North Miami Beach, Florida approving and authorizing purchase order with Florida Bullet Inc. for the sole source purchase of ammunition in a budgeted amount not to exceed $162,000 authorizing the city manager designated
all things necessary to effectuate this resolution subject to the budget appropriation availability of funds providing for conflicts providing for scriveners errors providing for severability and providing for an effective date item 9.16 resolution number R2025-176 approving the adoption of the Miami day
county Local Mitigation Strategy LMS 2025 brought by the community development director. A resolution the mayor and city commissioner city of North Miami Beach, Florida adopting the Miami date county local mitigation strategy for 2025 providing for
implementation conflicts providing for scriveners errors providing for severability and providing for effective date. Item 9.17, resolution number R2025-177, approving purchase orders to multiple vendors for the soul source purchase of
various specialized equipment, materials, and services brought by the NMBB water director. Resolution. The mayor and city commission of the city of North Miami Beach, Florida, approving and authorizing the issuance of purchase orders to multiple vendors for the sole source purchase of various specialized
equipment, materials, and services for the North Miami Beach Water Department, authorizing the city manager or designated to do all things necessary to effectuate this resolution subject to the budget appropriation and availability of funds, providing for
conflicts, providing for scriveners errors, providing for severability, and prov providing for an effective date. Item 9.18, resolution number R2025-178, approving a piggyback agreement for the purchase of maintenance and repair services brought by the NMBB water
director. A resolution the mayor and city commission of the city North Miami Beach, Florida, approving purchase orders between the city and AC Shulties of Florida, Inc. for maintenance and repair of water wells and water pumps for an annual budgeted amount not to
exceed $325,000. authorizing the city manager or designate to do all things necessary to effectuate this resolution providing for conflicts providing screwers errors providing for severability and providing for an effective date item 9.19 resolution number R2025-179
approving a contract amendment for Corona Delmare phase 2 brought by the NMB water director resolution the mayor and city commission of the city of North Miami Beach Florida authorizing approving and authorizing contract amendment to the contract with plumber
Summer Mike's Inc. increasing the contract by $164,267 for the Corona Delmare phase 2 lateral connections authorizing the city manager or designated to all things necessary to effectuate this resolution subject to budget appropriation availability of
funds providing for conflicts providing discriminability providing for an effective date item 9.20 20. Resolution number R2025-180 approving a budget transfer of the purchase of a watercraft vessel for the NMB Police Department bought by the
chief of police. Resolution of the mayor and city commission of the city of North Miami Beach, Florida, approving a budget amendment to the annual budget for fiscal year October 1st, 2025 to September 30th, 2026 for the general
fund to purchase a watercraft vessel 2025 Grady-White 326 Canyon Boat in the amount of $412,000 and providing for an effective date item
9.21, resolution number R2025-181, approving the extension of employment contract for interim city manager Andrew Platkin. Um, it's shown as being brought by the interim city manager, but it's it's the administration resolution of the mayor and city commission of the city of North Miami Beach, Florida,
approving the first amendment to employment agreement between the city of North Miami Beach and Andrew Platkin and authorizing city manager or designate to do all things necessary to effectuate this resolution. providing for conflicts, providing for scriveners errors, providing for severability, and providing for an effective date. Item
9.22, resolution number R2025-18, a uh authorizing an interlocal access agreement for local government publication of legal advertisements and public notices on county designated website brought by the community development director. A resolution of the mayor and city commission of the
city of North Miami Beach, Florida, authorizing the city manager to sign the interlocal access agreement for local government publication of legal advertisements and public notices on county designated website, providing for findings of fact, confirming expiration and limitation of approval, providing
for conflict, and providing for an effective date. And that is your consent. >> I rise to a question of privilege. Mr. Attorney, I need your support. I've never done this before, but I believe I need to stand up for the rights that I was given as a commissioner that I can
pull items without anybody seconding and the reason why it was not allowed to begin with that I don't understand that. I think we need to clarify this and we have to get it done because I believe that I am duly elected and I deserve to get items that I want to get pulled
pulled. >> I check on that. of the rules previously adopted before I was here in this chair is that when the consent agenda was adopted um it provided that individual commissioners had the right to ask that
items be pulled for discussion purposes. >> You're correct and I did ask for it and then for for some reason the mayor requested that that needed to be second and voted on by the commission because he chose to put his items in there
first. anybody could actually pull an item off the agenda without anybody seconding or or having a problem with it. So, I wanted to find out what why I'm turning back the time to when actually before we all voted on that and
I need that to be done as it was designed according to Robert's rules >> com consent agenda about consent agenda in Robert's rules. It's only >> No, it says according to Robert's rules, any member can pull a consent agenda
item for discussion. This is done by simply requesting its removal or a second or vote is needed for the item to be pulled. The pulled item can then is then removed from the consent agenda and moved to the regular order of business
where it is discussed and acted upon as a separate item. >> It wasn't seconded. Also, there were items that you were >> It doesn't need to be a second. >> Mr. Mayor, could I just ask why why why somebody wants to pull it and
>> No, no, that the the items initially, to be clear, were being some of the items that she was proposing were to be deferred, meaning that they were not even to be discussed. >> Oh, that's a different No, deferred is but pulled. >> No, >> it said deferred and that's how was
listed out. Madame clerk, can you please show us a print out of that document, the email that I sent you of what was said to be pulled? >> No, no, it's but it's not even gerine to the to the actual because we're in a process. >> You know what is gerine is that I am an elected official and I deserve to pull
items I want to get them pulled. >> Pull go over the items you want to be pulled. Um, Commissioner McKenzie doesn't >> Yeah. I I just want to get clarity. You you're you're saying there's a difference between deferred and pulled, correct? So what you're saying at this point is that you're not talking about the items that you want deferred. You
specifically are talking about the items you want pulled. >> Correct. >> For discussion. >> Yes. >> All right. So that's Can we address that so we can move forward? >> Yes. Let's address it. >> Which items are they again? >> It's item 9, >> Madam Clerk. >> Madam Clerk, do you
>> Which ones are pulled? >> You requested to have item um to be pulled 9.6 and 9.22. Yes, thank you for your email. Okay. So, what I'll do just so we can because
just an abundance of Wait, Madam Clerk, can you do you have an you have an additional thoughts, please? >> Uh, no. It says 9.22, but the description is different. >> Is it that what's 9.22 22 on the agenda. It's
>> Oh, okay. Okay. My apologies. It's 9.21. >> So, >> because it's about the city manager. >> So, the requested items to be pulled were 9.6 and now stating 9.21. Correct.
>> Correction for the record. >> Okay. Now, just an abundance of time because like I said, we were in a process of voting. I have no issue with having a discussion on I guess the those items
at a later date or even uh during our discussion item, but we have consent that was approved by the that was approved initially. I want to just vote on that and if they if if I'll say I'll put I but I'll also admit to add a dis an item for dis issues that um
Commissioner Sue wants to present or discuss an open discussion in regards to what she wants to talk to talk about in the open discussion because there's really nothing there's nothing there. So I'll I'll say that but I also want to you know we we're in a process of voting. So
to the city attorney you have the consent. I want what I want to add is add a discussion specifically to to to any issues that Commissioner Sue might have because she's had a process she has issues in regards to the process >> a personal privilege. >> Okay, >> Mr. Chair, so if if a commissioner sends
an email to the clerk and asks for an item to be pulled >> when was that email sent? >> What it has precedent over what happens in the current meeting? Because if any of us have asked for item to be pulled in the past, it's usually pulled and that's usually made reference to. So,
Vice Mayor, earlier um this email was sent about 2006 during um the mayor asked were there any items to be pulled. I read off the list to what was provided to me. Um we didn't get um supported
based on the request >> and this is where we're at now, but I did read the item. >> But in the past when we've asked for items to be pulled, they've been ma made reference on the record and then pulled. I made um >> even before a vote if it's been if it's h if it h it was if the request happens
prior to the meeting starting >> it was mentioned during the meeting. >> So yes I follow the same procedure and what would happen is that we would vote on the agenda being approved as amended. >> Yeah >> that was not done. So now that we're
>> it was skipped over. >> That being >> basically I had made that request and you needed that somebody had to second and approve it. >> That being said, we are in a process of accepting the consent agenda as amended
and initially voted upon favorably. I want to add uh an additional uh discussion item specifically to any issues that Commissioner Sue wants to bring during the discussion section to to flesh out all her thoughts. Do I have
a motion based on amend amendment to move forward? >> So it's it's it's to >> except the consent cons >> pulling 9.6 >> minus our two items >> 9.6 and 9.22 22 >> and those two are going to be moved to
the discussion in the legislative items and >> 9.2. Sorry. >> Yeah, I got it. >> I can't hear you. >> She wants to We're going to approve it. Pulling the the uh the one about the um sister cities, I think it is. >> There were two things
>> and the managers and the managers. >> Okay, we're going to have them in discussion. We're gonna I Well, if that's the case, I think that we should Well, I'll just give direction to the manager when it's my turn. >> All right. That being said, can we vote
on on the amended um my my my motion to move those two particular items that she wants to pull? Put them under discussion. Do I have a motion? Do I have a move? >> I have a second. >> Second. All in favor say I. I. >> Okay. Now, we're going >> No, >> I'm a No.
>> No. Okay. Um, >> I don't think we need to discuss the matter. >> No, no, I I understand that, but we're going to go into discussion. We're going to go into a discussion. >> We're wasting our time. >> I understand. We're going to go into discussion and we're and moving forward. That being said, can we go it? Say it again, Madam Clerk. >> Say it again, please.
>> Okay. So, we we are we are passing the >> motion. Um, Commissioner >> Chernov um Flormont second. >> Thank you. >> Now, we're going into legislation, I believe. and Commissioner Smuckler. >> You adopted the consent and the west
those two. >> Yes. >> So I think our normal procedure then would be the items that are pulled for discussion come before you do legis. >> No. Well, there's a couple items I I want to get to which is um the Washington Park. >> Um and I know we have >> certainly have the privilege of moving some
>> but that but we're we have no discussion items listed here. So I I motion my initial um motion was to have it as the as the items going into the discussion. That's fine. So, can we go into legislation and I think it's the first one should be the Washington Park um
>> so we voted just now on um accepting the >> the consent except for the two items that were moving into discussion. >> So, the items that were read off from >> Except for those two items which is 9.6 and 9.21. >> Understood. >> And 9.5 you deferred them. >> No. >> No, we did not. You just said two. >> No, no, no. You
>> Item 9.5 was deferred. >> It was when I read the agenda agenda. Item 9.5 was deferred to a later meeting, not pulled for discussion. So, it was not >> part of what was voted on. I did not read it and there was not a motion to bring that to the floor.
>> Okay. Thank you. >> So, Madam Cler, can you >> So, Mr. Mayor, just to make it clear what I want now that you're doing a little bit of adjustment, which I appreciate, by the way, >> um the $100,000 that the heading was
wrong. It said due to the fact that we have the shutdown, which we no longer have the shutdown, I want to make sure that that 100,000 strictly goes for food or for needs. So, do I do that now? Do I give direction? Tell me what I
>> Okay, it's already it's a it's already in legislation. Yes. >> No, but I heard tonight >> legislation. It's not in consent. >> Oh, it's in the legislation. Thank you. >> It's it's in there. >> Thank you. >> So, now we're going into legislation. Madame clerk, the first item I I I asked to be put on is the Washington Park
Center which was walked on. >> Correct. >> Thank you, >> Mr. Attorney. >> Yes. >> Can you please read it in title? >> Yes. Thank you. >> Resolution number R 2024-189. Resolution of the mayor and city commission of the city of North Miami
Beach, Florida, approving and authorizing the award of initiate of invitation of to bid number ITB number 2025-05-WP, Washington Park Community Center redevelopment project
to Shift Construction and Development, Inc. in an amount not to exceed 19,73,943 authorizing the city manager or designate to execute an agreement and to do all things necessary to effectuate this resolution and subject to the budget
appropriation and availability of funds and providing for an effective date um by vote of the commission when the agenda was set. This item was added to the agenda as the first legislation item. And do we have a a number for
that, Madam Clerk? What it is? >> Well, I know the resolution number. I guess it would be item. >> I'm sorry. >> 23 >> 2020 2025-189. And I think that for agenda purposes,
this would be 11. We could call it 11.0. zero. Okay, >> because it precedes 11.1. So, we'll identify this as item 11.0 for the agenda and uh it's sponsored by the purchasing
director, Mrs. um procurement director. Sorry. >> Good evening, mayor, commission. Um this item is uh an award of the Washington Park Community Redevel Center redevelopment project where we uh went
out to advertise for pre-qualified firms. Um those firms were pre-qualified based on their experience um similar projects um their ability to bond so on and so forth. Um, those pre-qualified firms were narrowed down
to five firms that were uh able to submit a bid for the construction of the Washington Park uh community center. Um those bids came back and um we are requesting to award to shift
construction and development and we are uh asking to execute an agreement after we um take some further review with our uh other departments in terms of um IT and u
public works to um fine-tune the numbers to make sure that we are in line with the project scope. So, we would like to initiate a an award to shift and do some um additional leg work before we execute
that and get started. Um >> to approve, Mr. Mayor. >> I second. >> I second it. >> I appreci This is Wait, before we move on because I know this is important matter to a lot of us up here. Um, I'm glad that we're finally moving forward.
A lot of people are wondering where we're going to de, you know, demolish the building. Parks is trying to move forward. Everybody's trying to move forward. I'm glad that, you know, I know there are some issues getting to this point. But, um, I second. Uh, well, no, who second? >> Commissioner um, Commissioner Turnoff. Um, motion. Commissioner Smith second.
Um, seeing no discussion. No. >> See no discussion. All in favor say I. >> I. I. >> Passes un. Thank you. >> Any opposed? kind of exciting that we had five people respond. That was good. >> It was like a bundle.
>> There were five respond. >> Can we still have the backup for it? >> Yeah, I I wanted to have a little discussion and it's it is, you know, not to exceed 19 million. So, >> can we just vote? >> Are there any backup documents? >> Yes, they're presented like if you can bring it up to the vice mayor
>> for her. Next item. Madame clerk. >> Can we get it? >> Yeah, >> we got it. And also this was budgeted, right, Mr. Mayor? >> Yes. >> Thank you, >> Madam Clerk. Next, >> the next the next item is 11.1. That'll be ordinance number >> should Didn't we say we were going to
circle back to the No, it's No, we're going through legislation, then we're going to discussion. Madam clerk, >> Mr. Attorney, can you please read ordinance number 2025-10? >> Thank you. >> Move to introduce. >> Thank you. >> Go ahead, Commissioner Turnoff. You're going to say move to introduce. Move to
introduce number ordinance number 2025-10 second and final reading. Second >> item 11.1, ordinance number R2025-10, second reading, shopping cart nuisance
ordinance, uh, sponsored by Commissioner Smuckler and the interim public works director, an ordinance of the mayor and city commission of the city of North Miami Beach, Florida, amending chapter 9 entitled offenses and miscellaneous provisions of the city code of ordinances, specifically amending
section 9-39.7 entitled mandatory shopping cart plan and section 9-39.11 entitled penalties for failing to submit or implement a prevention plan providing for conflict severability codification
and providing for an effective date and again mayor this is second reading >> okay >> move to approve >> second okay it's a it is orange but like if you have any additional thoughts the second reading no >> second reading second >> madam madam clerk this is roll call so
the second reading I do have a I do have ahead. Excuse me. >> Um, >> Commissioner. >> Yes, thank you. We did receive an email from the I think all of us did from the Florida Retail Federation. Can somebody tell me I don't know about
them but what they proposed was a pretty for me I think it was a pretty good a pretty good thing that we should consider when we're thinking about you know we want to facilitate economic development and bring in all this business right but then like when businesses do something or when when
something happens to uh between regular consumers who may have been pushing a cart out to get somewhere outside but you did say say that there's, you know, there's um we we spoke about this during the agenda briefing. >> We we did. Um >> yeah, so I mean stated for the record
also. >> Yeah. Attorney and um city manager's office. Yes. >> Um during the first reading we had we we discussed that that the state statute indicates that I'm sorry I've lost my voice. Um that we are not able to find uh businesses when we find cards in our
rightway. >> Right. However, um the state statute does not prohibit us from finding where there's a violation in the ordinance in terms of businesses providing to us um shopping cart retention plans and also meeting the um requirements of the
retention plans that are approved by the Department of Public Works. The city of Miami finds $500. The city of North Miami finds $250. Pretty much every municipality finds. So the symptoms of what you're seeing are the shopping carts and what we're just asking is for a retention plan and we hold them
accountable to the retention plan. That's pretty much it. >> Okay. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Madam Cler, can you um call the vote? Can we do a roll call, please? >> Did we get a motion to approve? >> I didn't. Or to introduce?
>> To introduce. >> Motion to approve. >> I second. Second. I put commission commissioner Flormon seconded. Motion by Commissioner uh >> Smuckler. >> Smuckler. Uh it's a roll call vote. Thank you. >> Commissioner Shernoff. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Flory. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Smith.
>> Yes. >> Commissioner Smuckler. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Sue. >> Yes. >> Vice Mayor Jean. >> Yes. >> Mayor Michael Joseph. It passes 70. All right. >> Introduce excuse me. Ordinance number 2025-11.
Second and final reading. 11.2 the city attorney. Is >> there a second? >> Second >> item 11.2 ordinance number R2025-11. This is second reading. Reduction of development costs for previously approved projects uh impacted by economic conditions. Sponsored by
Commissioner Chernoff. An ordinance of the mayor and city commission of the city of North Miami Beach, Florida. Amending this the code of ordinances to create a new section entitled waiver of development costs for previously approved projects impacted by economic conditions providing criteria
and procedures uh for reasonable reduction of development fees where construction costs have increased dramatically. providing an administrative review consistency with impact fee and permit fee uh studies and
developer education to leverage funding programs writing for severability codification and an effective date. As I said, this is second reading and it has had some amendments since first reading including changing uh reduction to waiver of fees when fees have already
been paid. >> Mr. director. >> So, uh at the last uh hearing uh we were directed uh by the mayor and the commission that uh we come back with projects uh that would qualify for such assistance. So, we've uh provided two
exhibits today. One is the regular projects uh which were approved as a regular commission items that we have been uh bringing to the commission as agenda items and site plans were approved but none of them have been able
there are some of them that have not been able to uh uh move towards uh building construction and have not yet pulled uh building permits. So exhibit A identifies those projects that have not uh been able to for one reason or the
other uh move towards construction phase. Then there's an exhibit B which is uh a much larger uh list of projects where there are hundreds in fact more into thousand uh units uh thousands of
units that are in the basket of rights and they take up space of the development portfolio against um you know uh mitigation and as well as uh you know concurrency requirements and they
are sitting there and they are not moving and they have been there for many years. So it's just something that is may not be an issue at this time but we want to bring it to your attention that there are hundreds of units that have been approved but are sitting there and not moving and that is also uh something
that staff would like to bring to your attention >> but that's not what we're concerned with. >> Yes, I know it's not but I >> the first the first page of your exhibit A is who we're concerned with. Yes, >> we're concerned with the developers who
have paid their auntie already and wants to downsize their project because of economic reasons. And if I might, Commissioner, just to further explicate that, >> the resolution particularly with the
clarifying amendments basically says if you've already paid your fees, >> if you paid the city, >> right, >> and the city has collected on your large development, but now you're unable to proceed with that large development, you're coming back with a smaller
footprint, less density, a less intense project. This just says that the city, if upon technical review and determination that it's correct, does not have to charge you again when you've already paid fees on a larger project.
That's all that this says. >> Move to approve. >> I have a I have some comments. Okay. >> Sorry, Mr. Mayor. >> Um the last time I had asked about the different types of fees I think you mentioned too, Mr. attorney impact and what else did you mention? There was
something else. >> Yes, there was um >> it was impact but I had asked >> permit fees I think >> permit. Yeah, permanent impact. I had asked the last time what were other fees that we also consider would be
considered in this were the impact and the permit the only two? Well, those are the only two fees that we charge other than the uh you know processing fee that is part of the administrative costs, >> right? Because I was looking it up and I
think last time I mentioned a few fees. Would all the other fees also be considered if they would like like storm water fees, other fees? Would that also be part of it or would we not um would we not consider those? regulatory fees
are not subject to reduction but uh uh fees that are based on the building footprint will automatically be adjusted and reduced. So if the if the developer were to come before us and say okay well now that I have a new a different footprint these other fees would not be
part of this discussion >> or the waving process that's >> I'll answer you this way we're not authorized to eliminate those fees when you phrase it would it be part of the discussion we can certainly in deciding whether to reduce the two fees to wave
the two fees that we've already charged we can discuss that they're paying all these other processing charges. It can be part of the discussion, but as the director said, we're just not authorized to wave those other fees, but we can say, you know, they are going to be
paying another $400,000 for these other processing fees just to be able to move forward. So yes, as you phrase it, we can talk about it, but that doesn't change what the director said, which is that we can only wave
those two code fees, impact and and and permit fees. >> So in the in the case that there are other fees that they they would be asking for consideration for would that be administrative decision or would that be something that also comes before us? >> We're not authorized either way. We when
we're paying a plans reviewer to review those plans, we're going to have they're different plans. We're going to have to pay the plans reviewer either way. So, we're not authorized to wave those fees period, either
administratively or from the commission. We can't. The only ones we can actually wave is as my understanding is are the impact and the permit fees themselves. You can talk about the fact that the developer still has to pay a bunch of other fees, but neither the
administration nor the commission can wave fees when we're paying somebody. This is just to basically say that the city can't have a windfall of collecting twice on those two fees that we've already collected on once for a bigger
project with larger fees. And the last question is even with the time frame. So you mentioned some of them have been have been long time past past years ago, right? Are have our feeds changed? Is that something that's going to be just the
same equivalent? That was with reference to the basket of rights projects that that have been sitting there and the the city needs to come up with a strategy. The staff doesn't have any uh strategy in our mind but I just wanted to bring to your attention that there are
thousands of units approved under the basket of rights strategy that were thought to be uh you know creative way of bringing forward those projects but they haven't moved. They sit there as just holding >> and what's the time frame usually for
the basket of rights? >> There is no uh time frame that's that needs to be legislated. >> Thank you. Commissioner. >> Oh. Uh, I have a motion and a second. Um, Madam Clerk, do a roll call.
>> Commissioner Floren Warner. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Smith, >> Commissioner Smuckler, >> yes. >> Commissioner Sue, >> yes. >> Commissioner Shor, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Jean, >> yes. >> Mayor Michael Joseph, >> yes. >> It passes. >> All right. Next item. Thank you.
>> Move to introduce ordinance number 2025-12, first reading. Second. >> Thank you. Item 11.3, ordinance number R, uh, 2025, I'm sorry, not R, ordinance
number 2025-12. This is first reading. Suspension of delinquent accounts for commercial accounts. uh brought by the interim public works director and ordinance of the mayor and city commission of the city of North Miami Beach, Florida amending chapter tw uh 17 18 entitled solid waste
management section 18-3 entitled garbage and trash collection fees schedule of the city code of ordinances to create section 18-3.1 entitled suspension of commercial dumpster account service for unpaid bills requiring mandatory commercial
solid waste service authorizing the suspension or removal of commercial dumpster service for delinquent accounts, providing for enforcement, leans, fines, and reinstatement requirements, providing for notice procedures, providing for conflict, severability, codification, and for an
effective date. And again, mayor, it's first reading. >> All right, that being first reading, I'm going to open up the floor for public comment. Madam clerk, >> good evening. The floor is now open for public comment. Please speak only on this subject matter that is being presented to the mayor and commission.
There is a threeminut time limit. Any speakers, Mr. Kazan? >> Good evening everyone. First, I want to thank the commission body for >> bringing back Mabar Kazan. I said Mabar
Kazan. >> Sorry. >> I want to thank the commission for bringing back commissioners Linsu. uh issues that they she had with the consent agenda. I want to thank each and every one of you that took part in that.
Um, in terms of this suspension, this is Coastal and Coastal collects about $9 million on their own
for these um these bills from the high uh the apartment buildings and the commercials. And um those people are complaining a
lot that they pay too much. They're paying like double what other cities paying like Miami and and and so forth. And I remembered um Commissioner Flurman and Commissioner
Michael Joseph when you were running the last time you now you become mayor, you promised that you would have brought back sanitation in house. You said there is no doubt we should not have outsourced it in the first place. I have you on video
and I remembered in January of 2022 when Coastal made their first proposal it was 12 million. That was double what the previous vendor had charged. And when they came back three weeks after
they said $13.4 million, $1.4 $4 million raised in in three weeks and they just kept raising the rates. Today we have over a lot of delinquent billings from the side that we collect, not them.
They they collect over $9 million a year and they're here. They want to pass this ordinance for 300,000 less than 300,000. We have over $6 million in delinquent billing. I have not seen anybody made a move, made anything. You say you would
have brought lawyers 500 $500 an hour lawyer to collect $25 and $100 and um there's no move on that. Here you have a private company hustling
to get a $300,000 and we have $6.5 million in the linguin billings and there is no foot from the city to collect our share. What happened to our share and when are we going to bring back the
sanitation in house? That was a promise you >> that was a promise you made and if you're not going to keep that promise then we'll have to remove you. Thank you very much for having me.
Next speaker, >> David Zapen. >> Again, David Zapen of Zapen Capital Real Estate Financing. Um, among the problems we're having is all
the packages that are will be delivered over the holidays. That's going to add up to more stuff ideally being in the recycling bins, but more likely being in the the trash bins where they don't belong. Corrugated
uh cardboard, the worst offensive. Also, the stickers of what to recycle and not They're in perfect English, which is not helping a lot of our residents and as creating a a stealth tax as
again stuff gets in recycle bins like plastic bags that doesn't belong. And this creates a back-end headache that doesn't have to happen. I'm still waiting for stickers that are more triilingual in Spanish and Creole
because not everyone here has English as a primary or even a fluent language. So, please let's uh be more strategic as we get into the holidays >> as well as the you know all the bulk
pickups especially of Christmas trees and the like after you know Christmas and well Boxing Day. So yeah, the exact funds. No, I get it.
I uh no one's going to mistake me for an accountant. But all these backend headaches that were avoidable should have been avoided with proper documentation last year. Never mind as we get into the holiday
season. Don't get me started on all the all the glass broken glassware that'll be in the wrong bins. So, look, I I know there's a lot of effort, but um by coastal waste, but please
let's have some useful stickers so that everyone knows the rules. Otherwise, we might as well recycle them like recycling magazine from January 91 back in the days of Juel Litman.
So, okay, let's uh let's Let's deal with the back end of the expenses, not just the front end. Thank you. >> Next speaker. >> Hi, Karen Herald, North Miami Beach resident. Um, I just wanted to clarify
when it said um authorizing the suspension or removal of the commercial dumpster service for delinquent accounts. So, what's going to be done to the dumpsters that are left? Are they going to be locked or are they going to be overfilling with garbage until an
account is paid? And what's going to be the enforcement of making sure the garbage is not just piled if a dumpster is removed in that area um and or if a dumpers dumpster is left there unlocked that the garbages won't be piled on top
of it. So, we can't have an eyes sore. So there has to be two things. Locking, removing, and observing what's happening with the garbage and what's going to happen, you know, are they going to is it going to be removed and then they're going to be fined extra money for the
removal? How you going to deal with that? Thank you. >> May May I answer that? May >> uh ma'am, the uh just to answer your question, we have to presume as I do that our city can walk and chew gum at the same time. And my conversations with
administration have been that when there is a list of those businesses who've whose accounts have been either suspended or terminated because they refused to pay their fees. Those every one of those is going to be reviewed by
staff to make sure that the business is no longer operating generating waste when it no longer has a license to do so. and it will be subject to code enforce to enforcement by code enforcement because that list will be
circulated. So your point is is well taken but it it is anticipated that the we will both walk and chew gum. We will both suspend and know who's being suspended and then immediately look at
each of those to see have they remedied the situation? Are they keeping it clean? Are they continuing to generate waste? If they're generating any waste and they're not taking care of it, they can be shut down. If that that's that's a last resort. We certainly hope it
doesn't come to that, but there's a list of them. They'll go out. They'll go directly to code and and the eye will be on them. I hope that answers. >> Okay. Yes. You mentioned about businesses that have gone out, but then you also have businesses that are still existing. And remember, unfortunately,
there are other people that see a dumpster and don't. Once you get people used to dumping, I just want to make sure code might have to have a special section to go around to these people to make sure it doesn't happen. >> That's what's contemplated. Yes, ma'am. >> Thank you. Next speaker.
>> No other speakers have come for >> none. Director. >> Good evening, Mayor Commissioner, the attorney. Um so this item is as we talked about it's for the commercial accounts for the solid waste um not the
residential. Um as we know um per contract we um we receive a percentage a franchise uh percentage of the um the revenue from the commercial side. Um as as of uh October 10th 2025 we've uh calculated that we're we have somewhere
around 145 delinquent account a little bit above a quarter of a million dollars. um it's impacting our ability to um really service the city um as we as we need to. Um the um that's how we balance our budget. So, we're asking for
some assistance here um to really assist Coastal and most cities do this. It's at 30 days we give a notice, at 60 days we suspend, at 90 days we pull and we've had some conversations with our um community development department to make sure that we look at the process full turnkey.
you director, I'm gonna go. Commissioner Sue, >> thank you. Um, so I just wanted to put this on I think we we discussed this last year when we were talking about the budget. I wasn't here
on in office yet, but I think that um we should consider having solid waste fees goes go on the tax bill >> for residential. Um that might be a possibility. These are commercial. This is commercial. This is commercial. >> And the other thing I while I was
campaigning with a lot of business owners here, they were saying that um our garbage fees are three times more than everybody else in other cities where if they owned like little multiple strip malls around, you know, South Florida, um we are an average of three
times higher. Is there is that because of the franchise fee and the um service charge or I mean where are we going with that? Um I I can take a look and see how that was tabulated years ago. Um I I would assume it's the cost of business,
right? Um in terms of you moving from a different contract um and also supplementing residential, there's different models for different cities. I would have to take a look and see how that was established. Yeah. >> Maybe we could compare that because I mean like you know we are investing or so-called you know um speaking of which
Mr. Attorney, I need to uh bring back the economic development ordinance because I need to revote on it. So, I don't know your guidance. I would like to do that today. >> Sorry, ma'am. Uh I I'm not following. >> There's an ordinance on economic development that was uh passed on the
first reading in the last meeting. >> Well, it's coming back in >> sign. No, I wanted to change my vote, >> but that's not gerine to the discussion. >> I know. I'm asking him to please find a slot for me to put that in. Now, with that said, >> I'm sorry, but once the vote is taken,
you can't come back at a later meeting and change your vote. That was already done. >> Well, Commissioner Smith actually overturned her head hunter vote. You have to >> you have to be commission. >> When you're on the winning side of a
vote, >> the next meeting the next meeting you have to bring it back. >> You didn't. >> So this is the next meeting. >> You have to tell the clerk which you did not which I did in the email. >> You sent it um you requested in the um
email. It was after two when you called me. I was not in the office. I don't believe there's a cut off time. Is there no but >> we already voted on the agenda? >> We >> just to be clear. All right. Look, >> we voted on the agenda.
>> This we're talking about a specific ordance right now. >> We have to be gerine to that. I understand we're this jumping up around is not conducive to having a proper >> ask the attorney to please find a slot for me to be able to do that. That's all I'm asking. I'm not aware of a mechanism
that allows you to simply change your vote. There are rules pertaining to >> That's why I had to ask you. >> Wait till you're done. >> Excuse me. >> Are I said I'll wait till you're finished. >> Oh, okay. Yeah. No, I that's why I'm consulting you.
>> Okay. Um, >> there are rules pertaining to a motion for reconsideration and one was not brought and it's not on the agenda. You cannot simply >> undo how you voted. How you voted at the
last meeting is a matter of public record as it is for all of your colleagues. That was your vote at that time and that can't be changed. That's what happened. That's historical. It's called fact. So there are ways under
which in some circumstances one can bring a motion for reconsideration, but I'm not aware of anything that requested reconsideration and it's not on the agenda for tonight. And if it's not brought at the succeeding meeting,
you can't move to reconsider. Now, if there's further action necessary when the item comes back because it was voted and deferred for a certain period of time, you certainly can address it when the item comes back
in front of us as to how you think it should be dealt with. And that's your privilege to address what you think is the right way for the resolution to be passed or not passed when it comes back. But it doesn't change your vote from
last meeting which was cast publicly and that was what your vote was. >> Thank you for that explanation. I think I wasn't clear. So what I'm trying to say is I had requested in my email to madame city clerk that I would like to bring back that ordinance for a revote
because I would like to put it straight on the record of how I would like to vote. Now, with that said, she said that I had submitted it after 2:00 p.m. today, and I'm not privy to a certain time cutoff that we're not allowed to
propose any withdrawals or any requests for bringing anything on the agenda. Now, with that said, like I said, I mean, these this is all new to me. So, you know, all the seniors here who have who have experience and if you know how
to do this, I would like to do that. Um, I understood that madame clerk already knew what was supposed to be done, but I apparently I missed some kind of cut off time. >> No, there is no Mr. Mayor. Clair, there I I'm not telling you that there is I
wasn't saying that there is a cut off time or anything. I'm saying you sent it after two when you called me. I was out at that time. I answer I responded back to your email and I said confirm receipt. As for that ordinance, it was
passed on first reading in October and is being brought back in December >> for a second reading. >> So, I'm sorry. >> Um, I didn't get a reply. So, if it was anything a miscommunication on my part,
then I but I did answer your email back. >> Okay. So, >> when I just >> when when when you vote on we're talking about bringing back. No, no, no. It is bringing be coming back on its own. That's the time to correct it. >> No, not the next meeting.
>> No, hang on. Before we No, wait. Hang on. Commissioner Smith, I I'll let you finish. I'll I I'll let you um say your thought. >> Okay. Thank you. >> But we're going to go back to the discussion. >> Well, that's what I want to say. Commissioner Sue, you want to learn how to do it. We're in the middle of a We're in the middle of voting on something.
That's not the time to bring it up time. Now we now we cut off the thought for the audience, the thought for the our the department head and the thought that we're voting on a something that needs our vote right now. If you have an issue
that hasn't been brought up in between you can say moment of personal privilege, the mayor has to recognize you and then you could bring it up. But we're in the middle of >> Well, there was a lot of time and to your point, Commissioner Smith, that happened a lot. I'm glad that you stated
that for the record meaning that like the jumping I understand a lot of us are passionate up here but Commissioner Sue with all due respect can we just follow the decorum of the commission please I understand you have a lot of points you're jumping off left and right or whatever but let's stay the process please okay for the record mayor I just
need to say to the commissioner um >> I speak to you anytime you try to reach me uh maybe not at the instant if you have questions on procedures I'm happy to answer them whenever you have them. Uh preferably not when we're
on the days. >> Okay. Thank you. All right. So, I'm going to get back to u the topic at hand. So, I was asking about we were talking about having that the bill go into go to the tax bill, right? Having
solid waste and storm water. So, whichever whether it's resident or commercial, do can we do that for commercial? That's a question. >> That would be more so residential. Um, >> so we cannot do that for commercial. >> Well,
most of the commercial you have you have tenants that are leasing commercial units. Um, so the tax billing account is not theirs. Um, the commercial building owner owns the tax bill. Um and so in
those instances it creates um a little bit of a dynamic situation where how do you take their their payments and put it on the tax right and in most cases that's that's the cases that you're dealing with with commercial. >> We have Miss Damaso here. I mean do you
have any experience about that? >> If I may interject Miami Shores does charge commercial onto the tax bill. >> Thank you. So would you like to share something with us Eileen?
>> The only the only issue or that I'm thinking of is the fact that some uh establishments do change their service and they might go for a two yard going in three times a week and all of a sudden they want a two yard or five times a week. So you're missing on that that that portion. So things change that
the the service levels change throughout the year. So trying to catch all that you know for the for the years I I I personally haven't seen the commercial. >> And if I may interject on that >> unless you're 96 gallon cart. So for example like if you're if you're a 96 gallon cart everybody has a 96 gallon
cart you know it's twice a month uh twice a week then you know that's established but I have not really commercial changes a lot and just so you know the the in in the franchise fees and I'll just interject real quickly. There is 25% franchise fees for commercial 10% solid waste. So that's
35% of the rate is for franchise fees and solid waste fees. So that's why the price looks higher >> higher >> and and to interject with that as well I sometimes I call monthly or every two or three months to change
>> add more days change container >> do less days bigger smaller container. So um it it I do see that problem. Yeah, >> it is a little I mean I do highly recommend that you do put your your residential solid waste in the tax bill. That's an easy thing for especially
because I've seen that it's been very success obviously with other municipalities but commercial almost >> we get the city manager to put the residential in motion. Okay. Now the other um I guess like I think we need to we >> we have to vote on >> No, no, no. We that's a whole separate
>> we would have to >> that's a whole different piece of legislation >> more on on the conversation about what needs to be done and then we can vote on it. >> No, right now we're discussing one particular Can we just >> We're talking about commercial. Yes, sir. Thank you.
>> Okay. Um so, so I was looking at the list that you you generated. That's the 60-day delinquency. >> Uh yes. So Eileen can speak to that. Yes. that that is the 100 semi uh over a quarter of a million dollar um accounts
that are delinquent right now. >> So we have one of the customers is city of NMB meaning like us we are delinquent on our own garbage fees. We have the post office. We have
protransportation LLC Biscane Commons city of NMBB. >> Yeah. So that is of accounts that are approaching 30 days going into 60 days as well. So delinquency is considered approaching 30 days going into 60 days. Correct. So a check could be in the mail
for that one, right? But you wouldn't see it because it's in motion. Correct. >> It's finance. >> Correct. >> So I I mean >> that's a finance department. >> Well, we don't collect our own fees for for commercial. It's not finance.
>> We're the ones that we're the ones. No, no, I understand that. But we're the ones that pay it. >> Oh, yeah. I understand. So that's >> No, I mean like there's there's some very familiar faces we have here, right? Like post office protest, >> but that's us paying paying our >> Yeah, I got it. I'm just saying that these are the ones that are delinquent.
So um so what I guess what I'm trying to get to is the next stop is >> how did it come about that Coastal was the one who's collecting these fees and why is it that we're not collecting the bulk of the fees? >> Yeah, that's that's contractual. I that's when the contract was initiated a couple of years ago and that's what you
guys vote. It's by contract. Yeah, >> we we entered into a contract giving them the right. >> No, we also gave them a right and also got rid of a termination a separation clause. >> Huh. >> Yeah, that's in there. >> Yeah. No, it's not in there anymore
>> when >> So, I mean, just because it's in the contract doesn't mean it's uh it's correct, right? It's just an agreement that was had. >> If it's in a contract, we're bound by it. Yeah. >> Yes. Exactly. Oh, any other comments, Commissioner Sue?
>> Well, I think we have to really revise this agreement. I would be happy to for this ordinance that you're asking for us to do. I would be happy to prov code so that um Coastal can enforce the payments. I'm happy to do that. But I'd like to also re explore why is it that
we're not collecting the bulk of the fees. The residential is about six and change and then the I think it's almost nine million that is commercial but we're not collecting that ourselves. So I'm not and also the the other question that I have is has there been an audit
or any oversight on your part or finance the finance department doing an oversight on any of the collections that we have been doing with uh the commercial. >> So we recently worked with uh Coastal. started seeing um um all of the charge accounts as of a few months ago. Um but
we are in the process of actually working with them to do an audit. I don't know if an audit has been done uh prior to this conversation, but we have been in discussion about having an audit. >> No, I mean no offense to Coastal. I think like you know, we all have to work transparently for everybody to see what's going on. That's
>> the city needs an internal audit department, but that's a whole another conversation. >> All right. Thank you. >> Call the question. M vice mayor. >> Thank you. So, um, director, before you leave,
in a nutshell, can you explain again this ordinance just in a nutshell? >> In a nutshell, can you explain this ordinance, this particular >> Oh, okay. Um, so, um, KO does our, um, Kosu does our commercial buildings. Um, we get paid a percentage, um, of what
they collect, basically a franchise fee. Um, so it it it serves in our benefit to really assist and work with our uh contractors and our vendors to really collect. Um, it serves in our benefit because we use the money to service the city in return. Um, and so what we're asking is to um assist us with an
escalation process um that holds the uh commercial account holders to to pay their accounts. At 30 days, we give them a notice um of late and then at 60 days um we suspend their account and then at 90 days um we would in turn uh pull the
dumpsters and it's common. This is not something that's uncommon. Most cities do it. Um and then we also work with closely with our community development um department. I've already met with Zafar and his team um because it ties back to their business licenses. So, it it only makes sense um for them to pay their accounts in full
>> and we would work with them if that >> the 60-day list, we have that in the backup. >> Um folks, >> that was back in early October, but you have a list that's 30 going to 60 going to 90. You'll see different columns on there. >> Approximately how many on the 60?
>> Um I can't give you that number. I I just took a full list of 30 going into 60 going into 90. And I think that list was 145. >> Um I can probably pull up that. Here's my the reason I wanted to echo what the what um the resident mentioned about >> when you get to the 60 and the 90.
>> Yeah. >> And >> what happens to the trash? You know, whose responsibility is it going to be for that um eco environmental piece of hey, who cares? >> What what's the what's the what's the
hope for that? >> That's a that's a very good question. So the ordinance today has that the public works director has the right to enforce what tri what size dumpster a business should have. We have not been acting on that and we are acting on that. So we've
already created a letter and what that means is you see a lot of overfilled dumpsters. Um obviously people are going to choose the cheapest billable account, right? Um and so we've already started the letter process where we're putting them on notice that this is the frequency you should have or this is the size that you should have. So that should address that. At 60 days, even if
we suspend the capacity of their dumpster should still be able to support that. So when we pull the dumpster, we're pulling a capacity dumpster that can hold what we're giving them. And that's why we're saying we have to react at 30 days because they're not going to have enough capacity to hold the generation for 60 days milestone. They'll be able to hold it for 30, but
they they're not going to be able to hold it for 60. >> So again, in the in the case of that overflow, whose responsibility is it to clean? Is it going to be on us? It is it going to be on coastal? Do we care? That's what I'm trying to get to because I'm not really hearing. I heard what you
said >> on the property. >> It's on the property. >> So, so that's what I'm saying is you're not going to have an overfill. You you'll have an overfill after at that 90 days, you're going to start seeing over because the capacity of the dumpster is designed to hold that generation rate.
So, if we if we don't pull the dumpster and we don't get serious in enforcement, then that's what happens. But then at that point we now start talking about their license um additional fees stuff of that nature and they know that because their business license is writing on it and they signed up for that. So if the if the dumpster can
basically hold a capacity, that person's going to be riding that line. Isn't it fair to say? Meaning the capacity of the dumpster, you're you're saying that 90day more than likely, I don't know if somebody else can sees my point and can explain
what I'm saying, but if you're saying that the capacity of the dumpster holds for this 90day, why should they have to adhere to what you're putting forth? They can ride that line. I'm maybe the attorney. But the
dumpster is not for a 90-day capacity. The dumpster is to be changed and picked up at minimum every 30. Somebody that's not paying us and not getting the dumpster uh cleaned and replaced is going to get in trouble with code
enforcement and may lose their license. Now, that's a >> at what point? That's what I'm saying. once they are if their ability to have a dumpster is terminated, even if they're cleaning it regularly, we're not presuming it's overflowing. Coastal
comes out and picks up and and empties it out. But if they go 90 days where they're not paying, they're going to get shut. And this is a cost of doing business, whether it's the owner, whether he puts it on the tenant or whatever it is. If we're not getting
paid, we're not requiring our contractor to go out there and keep dumping it every week or whatever it is that it needs to be cleaned, we'll we hate to, but if they're clouding us, we'll shut them down. >> That's what I'm saying at the I
understand that. I I I understand your frustration as well, but what I'm saying is >> Can I just try to >> Yes. Yes, please. >> What she's saying is because you're not stopping it at 30 days. They didn't pay in 30 days. They can continue to put dumping in it for 60 days, but they
didn't pay their 30-day bill. So now the dumpster starting to overflow. >> No, ma'am. The dumpster is emptied on a I don't it's emptied regularly. They don't pay for it. But they didn't pay for it, but it's still being even though they didn't pay, they're still being
it's still being >> they're still being charged. They're still being charged. So they're she's saying they're what they're saying vice mayor what they're saying is that it's going to never going to overflow because they're still picking it up. >> So for up to 60 days they're
>> 60 days if they do not pay yet. It was picked up in 30 days. It was picked up in 60 days. >> Picked up weekly. >> You didn't pay. >> But at 60 it's suspended. And at 90 it's terminated. >> So So when it's suspended are they removing the container? No, only when
it's terminated. >> Suspended. Um, when it's suspended, it's basically we're not doing any additional services. So, sometimes they'll call and say, "I need an extra. I need you to come back and pick me up or any any type of service." It's it's suspended. Okay. But containing the trash that they that
they generate for that month, but at 90, we pull. >> At 90, you're removing the container. >> Correct. >> Okay. All right. >> So, this first reading, I say we vote. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Yes. >> I have a motion. Do I have a second? >> Second. >> Second.
>> Commissioner Smler second. It's a roll call vote, madam clerk. >> Commissioner Smith, >> yes. >> Commissioner Smuckler, >> yes. >> Commissioner Sue, >> yes. >> Commissioner Shern, >> yes. >> Commissioner Flormon, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Jean, >> yes.
>> Mayor Michael Joseph, it passes 70. >> Thank you. >> Motion introduce 11.4 4 resolution number R 2025-141. >> Second >> item 11.4 for resolution number R
2025-141 establishing a comprehensive policy for budget control uh sponsored by Vice Mayor Jean and Commissioner Sue resolution the mayor and city commission the city of North Miami Beach Florida establishing comprehensive policy governing internal budget transfers continuing appropriations reporting
requirements and financial transparency setting formal approval thresholds providing for conflicts providing for scriveners errors providing for severability providing for an effective date that's the item second. >> Uh, this item is um,
Mr. Is this the budget controls? >> Um, is Daniellea John? >> I've been trying for two months to get my name on this because this should have been priority. I see though that they clarified something. They added something that makes it very
clear and I appreciate that and I say let's take a vote. >> Okay. >> I had I had pulled it so that we would get it fixed a little and it has been done. >> All right. We have a do motion
to the public. >> Do I have a motion? >> I made the motion. >> Do I have a second? >> Second. >> All right. All in favor say I. >> I. Any oppose? >> No opposed. No opposed. I mean, >> so it passes unanimously. >> I I yours.
>> I'm not gonna I know. >> Minister Suka, with all due respect, I know you have certain people up there in the day on in the audience that that is very favorable to you. I'm running this meeting. Please be respectful of that. Madame Clerk, next next item.
>> Move to introduce resolution number R2025-182. Item 11.5 resolution number R 2025-182 approving work order for construction administration services with KCI technologies inc sponsored by the interim public works director resolution
the mayor and city commission of the city of North Miami Beach Florida approving and authorizing a purchase order for construction administration services for the Washington Park community center redevelopment project with KCI Technologies, Inc. in a budget amount not to exceed $862,420
authorizing the city manager or designated to do all things necessary to effectuate this resolution. Providing for conflicts, providing for scriveners errors, providing for severability, and providing for an effective date, Mrs. Mrs. Director, sorry.
>> Good evening, mayor, commission. This item is for uh construction administration services with KCI who is the ER for the Washington Park design uh project. Um we are requesting these services for the ongoing inspection and
administration during the construction process. You have questions are advised during the construction process any changes during permitting or um just to inspect the work as it goes along. We're asking the EO to provide that administrative those administrative
services. >> So they're the manager more or less. >> Uh just for the record, EO is the engineer of record. >> Just as she uses the term EO. I just want everybody to be aware that's the engineer of record. >> My apologies. >> Move to approve.
>> I second it. >> Oh, Commissioner. >> Nope. Commissioner um >> Smuckler seconds it. Um, >> I just have >> Commissioner Smith, >> I just want to know, I read that they were the initial ones that helped with the plans and all that, but did we get
other bids, >> did we look at anybody else to oversee it? >> No, we did not. Um, typically when the engineer that does the plans and helps with the the bidding and all of that, they continue on with that process because they have the expertise with
this project. And this um the award for KCI that was about in 2019 2018 2019 um this went out with them. They're on our CCNA list as well. So that was public that was bid. >> Okay. So, the bid is like $900 and something dollars a year, but it says
so it says annually. Is um is it going to be more than one year? >> No, it should not say annually. Right here, I'm seeing budgeted amount not to exceed. If it does say annual, that is a that's a scrivener's error. It should not say that. It is through the project life cycle >> for annual budgeted amount not to exceed
862. >> Okay. I'm not sure. >> Budgeted amount not >> Oh, it doesn't say that here. budget. Okay, not a problem. We'll correct that. How >> many is it going to be every year? >> It is not annual. It is for the project duration, which is um an 18month project
or less. We're offering less, but it is through the project's end date, the close out. >> Okay. >> Um Mr. Mayor, I have a quick question. Vice Mayor, >> uh, the I think Commissioner Chernoff was about to ask, are they managing the
how will it work with the firm that got awarded tonight? How will they those two work together? >> So, the firm that was awarded this evening, they're for the actual construction, the vertical construction. They're the field um vendor. Uh, KCI works with um the city, continues to
work with the city in conjunction with the construction vendor to ensure that the plans are being carried out as such. there are any questions, if there are any issues with permitting, um, inspections along the way, they work with, um, the vendor and the subs to, uh, achieve success.
>> Who's going to do do the project management? Is it this firm, KCI? >> They're doing a portion of the project management along with our our CPI, our CCIP team. >> Okay. Mr. Manager, you were going to say something. >> She said it.
>> So, the internal team and KCI are going to do the project management. Yes, they will work with with uh the firm. >> Thank you. >> All right. Uh do I have a >> made the motion or >> we have a motion and a second. All in favor say I. I.
>> Any oppose? Passes uns item. Madam clerk, >> move to introduce resolution number R2025-183. >> Second. Resolution number R2025-183 approving the declaration of a local food security emergency sponsored by
Vice Mayor Danielle Ojan. Their attorney is coming >> and Mayor Michael >> and Mayor Michael. >> He's just getting this all night. >> Hey man, I'm getting this all night. But like at the end of the day, there's a lot of >> He's a co-sponsor. That's why. >> Well, no. Well, yeah. Well, it's
>> it says it here. >> It's a lot of uh emotion. So, I'm like I'm trying to I'm trying to be very cool because at the end of the day like nobody nobody remembers >> who who starts it. They always remember who finishes it and I don't want to I this is memorialized. People can re you
know rewind it see who how people acted. But that being said, please continue on. Let me read the title for the record. Mayor, >> a resolution the mayor and city commission in the city of North Miami Beach, Florida declaring local food security emergency in the city of North Miami Beach. >> Am I on the right one?
Okay. Um, in the city of North Miami Beach authorizing and directing the staff human services uh economic uh human services em what is EM? I'm not sure the
communications uh to coordinate with food banks, schools, and faith community or uh partners for emergency food distribution authorizing up to $100,000 from a contingency or available funds for
emergency food assistance and outreach. Authorizing the launch of a public information campaign listing local resources and assistance options. providing for conflicts, providing for scriveners errors, providing for severability, providing for an effective date. Again, that is item 11.6
resolution number R2025-183. Um, approving the declaration of a local food service emergency was sponsored by I believe it was by Vice Mayor Jean. I thought the mayor was co-sponsor and let me say I believe this is there's an amendment that may not be showing here
that directed that the funds be taken specifically from >> it's on there. It's on the >> um Okay. It's It's in the body of the resolution itself, just not in the title. I I thought we'd change the title to reflect that, but Okay.
Um, initially I reached out to the city uh manager um back when the shutdowns prior before it happening. We're like a lot of emails are going out um from certain groups NAACP um these um social services groups that
reach out to myself because they they since I'm the head they they tend to send that. So I I initially reached out to um the manager saying we have to do something in preparation. other cities were taking a lot a more proactive approach but um now that the government
shutdown is now lifted there is another timeline that's that likely could happen in January 30th and I just wanted us to have at least this mechanism ready so the manager in case something were to happen that he's ready to pull the trigger that being said I subsequently found out that commissioner John was
actually was also working on the same initiative and that's how that co-sponsorship came to fruition so unless commission uh the vice mayor has any additional thoughts? That's >> and mayor, let me interject. It is my understanding, somebody who monitors it, that though the shutdown technically has
been ended, >> um the SNAP benefits I've heard have not yet resumed and there is a delay >> for some inexplicable reason. >> There is a delay in actually getting those SNAP benefits to people who were
relying on them. And there's not a date certain when SNAP will be back in place. There are people today who have not gotten SNAP since the termination November 1st and we're approaching, you know, Thanksgiving in December 1st. So to say that it's just perspective.
>> No, no, no. It's there today. >> No, no. At the very least, this could be we have another timeline that's already been set coming up in in um January 30th. That that money could be utilized at the very least at that point if nothing were. but it's here now and I and I support this item. I I'll let the
vice mayor chime in as well. >> Thank you so much, Mr. Mayor. I No, I do think the item is necessary. As um the attorney mentioned, people still have not gotten their um their benefits and even if you look at Joshua's Heart had a recent um food drive here and we served
over 600 families there. So I do think that this is something that all of us can champion and u I'm not sure if you mentioned that it it would start in January or is this is active now. >> I would hope that moment you leave it up to staff to start as as soon as possible
because as you pointed out there's still people not receiving SNAP benefits >> right >> know because agree with that >> but um I'm going to go down the roles. Okay. So Commissioner Sue >> Oh I thought you were >> No, no, you you you were first. >> Okay. Got it. Thank you. Um I just want
to point this out. I I think I agree if we take this $100,000 and you know we either sponsor Farm Share or some kind of food bank to come and support our residents would be wonderful. It's this section two that actually like kind of irks me a
little bit. It says, "The mayor and city commission hereby authorize and direct the staff in parentheses human services emunications to coordinate with food banks, schools, and faith or community partners for
emergency food distribution. authorize up to 100,000 from contingency or available funds, specifically from donated funds received from Coastal Waste and Recycling Incorporated as part of the current agreement for emergency
food assistance and outreach and authorized the launch of public information campaign listing local resources and assistant option op assistance options. So my understanding when I'm listening to this, it's providing the 100,000 to the human
services, economic development, and communications to coordinate and find these resources for our residents and advertise it to them. Now, that's what I'm interpreting from this. Um what I'm seeing is it's
not clear where this money is going to and who is authorized to spend it. In the initial port portion where it says whereas it says the city manager or designate to relocate right a 100,000. So who has the
authority over this is something that is is unclear to me. If it's the city manager where is that money going to? Meaning, is it going to like let's say we need to sponsor Farm Share for them to come over? Like, is that SP is this $100,000
sponsoring that? or is it just a PR mechanism for people to find for the PR people to say, "Hey, you know, there's a farm share over here, there's a farm share over there, and there's a food, you know, like >> I wanted to chime in because I think that was one of the things we spoke
about, but you have uh so many different agencies that serve out of North Miami Beach like the Jewish Comm Community Ser Food Bank. You have individuals like Dovy Cats. You have individuals like Joshua's Heart, Farm Share, Feeding
Feeding South Florida. I think compiling that list as as was mentioned of especially um companies or organizations that serve North Miami Beach, but I also partner with the city to either host them here or on sites that are in North
Miami Beach. I think that was the gist of what we discussed as well. >> And vice mayor, that's the way it was drafted. It was intended to give authority to the manager basically to do triage to find where people are hungry
right today to find the quickest, most efficient, fastest way to take some of this money and put it on the street to multiply it by partnering with whoever's available and ready to move quickly. It is an a a broader grant of authority to
the manager than you might usually do, but it's triaged to help people who are hungry today. That's what you instructed and that's what was the intent of the way we drafted it. >> You also have a bill build it better tomorrow as well. I know that that's a local one, >> right? Yeah. Um if if I may, I just want
to the only thing I have a problem with this is where we're going to um launch a public information campaign. I don't want to pay for this. I want it to be free. I don't if a radio station wants
to do it for free. Yes. But I don't want to be paying um anyone. This is something that's a service to the community and this is something that the the different >> Yeah. You want the money to go to the >> We can clarify commi commissioner. The intent was that's why it says using
among other departments our communications team. The intent was for our communications team. But what you can do is you could simply bring a small >> discrete amendment that would state in in the action list uh with the funds uh
to be directed towards providing food and communication services to be those provided by the city communications department. If you want to bring that amendment that would clarify that the
communications effort is using our own in-house communications. >> What he what he said >> I make an a motion to amend what to what he said. >> Thank you. >> You do a voice vote on that one. May >> No, what I'm saying is doesn't our
communications team isn't that their job to do it anyway? >> Well, I just don't want it to go out to >> go out to other authorities. I don't want the money to be spent. I want it to be spent on food. >> Okay, thank you. Yeah, I want it to be spent on food. >> All right. All in favor say on
amendment. >> I oppose. >> Okay, now we're back on the amended resolution. Do I have a motion? >> No, wait. >> I was going to get to talk. You remember you're going to >> Sorry, Commissioner Smith. You're Yes. >> But it's okay because what I want to say, Commissioner Schmucker said, I just
want to make sure it went into the food. So, I third I thirded. I thirded. I heard it. >> Yeah, I heard it. I heard it. >> So, I have a motion and a second >> and a third. >> Um, all in favor say I. >> I. Any oppose? All right. Pass unanimously. Next item. Yes,
>> sir. >> I think I think if we don't use all this, I know it already passed. I think if it's not used now, if we use 56,000 and there's 44,000 left, we keep that in reserve for the next >> emergency. >> Yes, ma'am. Item 11.7, resolution number
R 2025. Resolution number R 2025-184. >> You are correct, sir. >> Second. >> Thank you. Item 11.7, resolution number R2025-184 approving a piggyback agreement for the purchase of sodium hypocchlorite
brought by the NMBB water director. Resolution. The mayor and city commission of the city in North Miami Beach, Florida, approving purchase orders between the city and Allied Universal Corporation and Odyssey Manufacturing Company for the supply and delivery of sodium hypocchlorite
for an annual budget amount not to exceed $910,000. Authorizing the city manager designated to do all things necessary to effectuate this resolution, providing for conflict scriven reserves, praying for severability, and providing for an effective date sponsored by the water drip.
Director. >> Good evening, Mayor Commission. This is the disinfection chemical in water treatment plant to maintain the operation for post treatment disinfection. We're utilizing the co-op contract from uh city of Fort Lauardo.
It's multi- vendor. So, we have the ability to continue and maintain the business continuity as adopted and appropriated in the budget. >> All right. Do I have a motion? >> Motion. Second. >> I have a motion to second. All in favor say I. >> I. >> I. >> Next item.
>> Move to introduce 11.8 resolution number R 2025-18. >> Let the record show Commissioner Smith was an iOS pass unanimous. Next item. Oh, sorry. Um, Commissioner Turnoff. >> You move to introduce. >> Okay. Item 11.8, resolution number R2025-185,
approving a piggyback agreement for the purchase of storm water and sewer main cleaning and repair services sponsored by the interim public works director. resolution the mayor and city commission city of North Miami Beach, Florida, approving a piggyback contract for drainage, pipe cleaning, repair, and maintenance services in an estimated
annual budgeted amount of $500,000 with Shannondoa General Construction LLC and authorizing the city manager or designator to do all things necessary to effectuate this resolution. Ping for conflicts and subject to the budget appropriation availability of funds providing scriven errors providing for
severability and providing for an effective date. sponsored by the water director. Go wait a minute. No, it's uh >> by the public works director. >> Good evening. Um mayor, commissioners um attorney. Um
this is an annual contract that we have with Shannondoa to service our storm water drain systems. As you know, um our French drains u require inspections uh in order to keep our NPS permits. Our catch basins uh should be inspected and maintained um with a a five-year
cyclical. There's budget standards. Yeah, it is budgeted. Um, this is just simply continuity of of business. >> Move to approve. >> Second. >> Sec. >> All in favor say I. >> I. >> I.
>> All right. Thank you so very much. >> Thank you. >> Um, the item 9.9 was pulled. We're going to item 11.10. Move to introduce resolution number R2025-187. Second item 11.10 resolution number R2025-187
approving a budget amendment for Coronad Delmore phase 2 phase three. Oh, introduced by the uh interim deputy city manager. A resolution to the mayor and city commission in the city of North Miami Beach, Florida, approving a budget amendment to the annual budget for
fiscal year October uh October 1st, 2025 to September 30th, 2026 to fund the community redevelopment agency CRA portion of the Corona Delmare phase 3 septic to sewer project for $1.45 million providing for scriveners errors,
providing for severability, and providing for an effective date. sponsored by the interim deputy city man >> commission. This item is just a correction of an accounting error that took place in 2023. The CRA uh allocated $1.4 million to subject to sewer
projects uh phase three. The money was deposited into the water fund. This resolution corrects it and makes the money into the wastewater fund where it should be to make the money available for the projects. Move to approve. Second. >> Thank you.
>> Got a motion and a second. All in favor say I. >> I. >> Passes unanimously. Next item. Madame clerk. Um I want to go to the city manager of the interim contract. >> Wait, >> we have to go to >> Those are those are the two discussions. >> Yeah, let's finish the small the easy one.
>> Yeah. No, I'm doing that one first. Um because that's how I set it up. The uh city manager. Thank you. >> 11.6. >> Move to 11.2. 11.21 >> 9.2 >> 9.21 >> Move to >> move to introduce
>> second >> item 9.21 is a discussion item resolution number from the pulled from the consent agenda for discussion item 9.21 21 resolution number R2025-181 approving the extension of the employment contract for interim city
manager Andrew Potkin sponsored by the manager's office a resolution the mayor and city commission and the city of North Miami Beach Florida approving the first amendment to employment agreement between the city of North Miami Beach and Andrew Potkin authorizing the city manager designated do all things necessary to effectuate this resolution
providing for conflicts providing for scrimmers errors providing for severability and providing for an effective date >> motion to approve Second, >> uh, discussion. >> Discussion. Yeah, >> I don't have a problem with this. Okay. But
>> if things are the way they are, which Mr. Platkin would gladly do it. >> Yes, that's No, I No, no, let me speak. >> No, >> Mr. Platkin would gladly do it, but it's not his preference to He would rather be
the recreation director again and not be in this position. He would help train whoever we appoint if we appoint somebody. And so why would we make him do this till that time if he doesn't really want it?
>> Can you >> to the mayor and commission? Uh I put an extension out. I'm committed to you all till February 1st if you all should have me. Um what the what the commissioner you all know my intent to go back to parks and recreation director. I believe
some of this has to do with the timing. Uh there's a question about whether this is going to be taken, you know, finished by the February 1st deadline, which I'm hearing, you know, we've heard is happening. >> Um but um I I I have committed um with
this agreement to February 1st. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, >> Mr. McNut chime in. I don't know if you were done, Commissioners. >> I'm I'm done. Go ahead. I think that um you know leading a city is not an easy task and you know you're in that hot
seat but I do think that you know let's be honest there are areas of improvement that we've all discussed with you individually and I do believe that especially with all that we have happening we have to increase the communication between the commission and the city manager's office. So, you know,
I shouldn't be hearing about things in passing or on the street or at another city. Um, all the commissioners up here deserve the same respect that each person deserves. And that's something that has to be worked on from your team and yourself. And that's that's
something that I just have to put on the record because there's been too many things happening that I'm hearing about them through fourth party, fifth party. I'm like, "Oh, that's happening in North Miami Beach." Okay. Uh, I thought I was a commissioner here. So, you know, I'm
taking the I'm taking the respectful light road, but I've had those tough conversations with you, and I'm hoping that your team can reflect the respect to each and every person up here. Not um
not specific only to the mayor. I know the mayor, he's the head, but like I said to someone else, we're the neck. We're the supportive of of the team. Not not taking anything from your position. I'm just saying that, Mr. Manager, we all need to get the same respect and
your team needs to echo that as well. So, I I would be remiss if I didn't say that. >> Please. Um, Commissioner Sue, your thoughts, please. >> Thank you. So, um, I I also want to say the same thing. There were there were
emails that I had sent to to to you like twice a month and a half later to ask for the same thing that wasn't responded to. Uh >> Commissioner, you you sent an email asking for something for the um for the
budget hearing that uh I did have ready and and whatever, but you were not here for the >> But doesn't mean that you shouldn't email. >> You're right. I apologize for that. I should regardless >> and and there have been like many asked that I have asked you for some things and it just keeps getting pushed back
and delayed and delayed and I get that you have seven bosses now. I feel that like right now we are we are having some serious issues going on with you know the county the water plant and all that. I mean we we now have you know more
issues along the lines of like other structural things in our city like other like basic activities whether it be cleanliness right whether it be like the business development portion of it I mean the the speed in which things need
to move is not really quite there and I feel like we need to if you do continue to stay which I actually think that like I don't know how you feel about all the pressure that you're dealing with mean including from me. Um, you know, there's
like all of that included. So, I'm thinking that we need somebody who really knows and is connected to everyone, meaning and I mean everyone. I know that there are certain people that you're very close to that you work well with, right? And then there's that it's
a it's kind of a comfort zone and I feel like they should extend out of the comfort zone to continue to work with other teams that like especially now I'm not I I think you have a great relationship with um director Nick von
but I'm saying that like right now water needs to be like at the forefront right >> I think finance should be at the forefront to be quite frank >> what is >> finance how many checks have been going out late there's a lot of issues with finance I don't know why we don't have a finance director to be quite frank. But no, continue on. Continue on. I'm sorry.
>> Oh, okay. Thank you. Yeah. And you know, I actually kind of want to address finance because I feel like we have been spending ourselves blind in the city. >> Aren't we talking about the managers? Can we can we just
>> Well, that's that's the here's the thing. Like as the manager, I would love to see the manager curb some of that spending. >> Like instead of approving every single expenditure, I'm telling you that 9, what is it? 9.7, 9.8, and 9.9 today, I
mentioned in my commission report, all of these funds that are transferred are illegal. >> What? >> This is not supposed to be the way it should be done. where they're below the different different storm water water funds are not supposed to be the
same. I'm I don't know why Mr. Mayor you or >> Well, no. I have Well, here's my conversation. I I I haven't finished speaking yet. So, >> Well, you you directed me. You called my name. >> I know. No. I Let me finish what I'm trying to get to and I would >> because I know you're saying things.
>> I would be happy to hear what you're saying after I'm done speaking. >> You're saying the key things that are illegal. Do you have any legal like documentation or background to to to >> I'm speaking to an attorney. Let me say that this is not transparent or best
practice. How's that? >> But how is that illegal? What you're saying? You're saying that >> it is you're not supposed to be using storm water money for CIP stuff, CIP money for other other things that are not supposed to be. >> They're directed to communities. They're direct directed to a specific comm each.
There were what three items for Eastern Shores. >> This has been going on for I don't know how long. We had someone from Aspoa speak to seeing action. >> Absolutely. The way every every job that is executed is executed correctly. It's
just the money that is being spent on it is not entirely correct. And that is myick on this. We don't make this a habit. We just want to spend whatever we could get. you're there. If you've read that, I don't know if you did, but you know, it's like, oh, we're gonna spend
this much here, we're going to spend that much here, we're gonna have this much left, and then we just have to add another, you know, 11,000 $1,100 or I don't know, a,000 and change. That's not how this this whole finance and budgeting works. And yet here it is.
Like I'm asking the CFO who's sitting right there and he said that he was completely bypassed and he did not know about this bending even though he disagreed with it. >> Well, he didn't say that to me. >> Who did he say that to? >> Did you say that to me, Mr. Romani?
>> Let me interject here. >> No, I want to know. >> Mr. No, no, no, >> no, no, no. Before we go forward, Mr. manager, this is your shop. Outside of the commission, you make the final call. So, he needs to take helm of this so we can keep this germaine to this
conversation. Mr. Mayor, >> I I want to know. You know what? She's right because he's ultimately responsible no matter who the CFO or the deputy city manager is. Well, maybe when you start being nice to the employees,
maybe they'll start listening and maybe they'll start responding to you. >> Mr. Placket, have I not been nice to you? >> Um, >> yes. >> Okay. >> Well, look, wait, wait, hang on, hang on before, Excuse me. >> But you don't, right? Okay,
>> commission. I'm sorry and I try not to interject like this but I have to say there is one presiding officer at this meeting who holds the gavl and the vice chairs the meeting to the >> not everybody speaks willy-nilly. There
is a you go through the chair. >> Yes. >> Okay. Can I >> just like I'm just saying like I I know I'm just a regular I'm a little >> I like I said I have to take whatever is given to me no matter who's thrown at
me. >> Commissioner go. >> Okay. So when when Mr. Romani comes back I would like him to answer that question that was asked. But, you know, it's it's really nice that, you know, finally um you know, Eastern Shores always feels
like we never get anything and now we're finally getting something and then there's someone who has to come and spoil it for us. Um you know, and and also like um Commissioner Chernoff, you said you wanted Hamid. So, who's going to take who's going to be in charge of the water plant? Did you think of that?
>> Who's going to take care of the water plant if he's the manager? No, I'm just saying that I want to know who was going to be who your plan was to be head of the of the water plant. And you know, we're this is just for a few more weeks. It's 10 more weeks. He said
yes. He's a mench. He said yes. He's going to do it. And Andy, I don't think you've done anything illegal. I really don't. >> I I just I just want to clarify. So there's a resolution passed for CIP dollars that once they're allocated to a project, they stay with that project. I
don't have the authority um to move it to another project. >> So we did we >> So what so what you have before you is uh CIP projects, right, that um that are allocated to specific funds and we're uh reallocating some of those funds to a
new project that we deem is uh an emergency and needs to be taken care of. Um general fund. >> Yes. And they're they're from the general fund. Um those projects. So >> that's
>> Yes. Can you please >> So I'm just >> So you cannot use storm water funds to fund general p general fund. You can use general fund to fund any capital improvement pro um project or purchase in the city.
So in this particular case, what we did is we requested the reallocation for projects that were general funded to go to a general fund allocation. That's what we asked. We did not use storm water money to fund general fund. >> Thank you for the clarification. >> So we did nothing illegal here.
>> Wait, hold on. Uh just to address something. So >> do the mayor, please. No, this is you cannot let this I I need to clarify what the director is saying. >> Yes. And um so what I'm saying is the Eastern Shores paving
drainage pipe. Okay, this is it's not specified where the CIP money is coming from. >> It was specified in the memo. We asked for a reallocation from Eastern in
2025's budget year. you adopted half a million dollars for Eastern Shore's 35th Street uh traffic calming, which was raised intersections, speed humps, and stuff of that nature. All general funded. What we asked it is to is to reallocate that fund to handle emergency
situation on 164th. Just general fund to general fund reallocation. I would never come up here and ask for storm water to fund general fund. >> Okay. And then you have emergency drainage, which you're using general CIP fund to fund the storm water. >> Correct. There are three projects that were funded out of general fund which
the actual cost came in which means we had a reserve for each one of those accounts and we're asking to reallocate those reserves to 167th and 17 168th and 171st. >> Mayor you general fund and general fund. >> You said you would next we're next recognizing commissioner Smith and thank
you commissioner Smith >> and we'll move forward on the vote. Thank you. So I first and foremost um I would ask my fellow commissioners what was asking me for many years. Please discuss this prior to the
commission meeting. >> To use words illegal >> up here >> illegal. Illegal. If you read the menu, the reason we had to vote was because it was allocated for funds for something
else and the only way it could be moved moved legally correctly was a vote from the commission. So those kind of words are causing us such heartache because how do you get a good manager?
Now, I want to say one thing because we're really only up here discussing whether or not the current manager stays or whether or not we get a interim interim. And that's what we're talking about. When Mr. Platkin first was
appointed as the manager, I know him through recreation and I talked to him about what this position requires with his personality. So, you know, I I get personal sometimes
and it's not conducive of what professional government should be. I have two children. Their personalities are so different. Mr. Pluskin's honorability and his ethics are unreachable,
>> but his personality is he was handed this. He was selected this. We ended up in a process and he ended here and that's the reason he himself didn't put in his papers. He knows his personality. He doesn't want
to become that person that has to handle 500 employees. So now the suggestion comes up, change him. We need somebody tough. Well, wait a minute. When is that somebody tough going to learn? During Christmas.
They can't just come into the seat and not know. Mr. Plton would have to stay there, pay two two um whatever your position is, two managers, >> two. >> We'd have to pay two managers for at least a month. And then before you know
it, the thing I want under this umbrella of whether or not to extend his contract is a commitment. We had a commitment. Nobody nobody did the commitment. I was here. I saw it. I was here. Three people answered that commitment. Now I would
like a commitment that all seven of us by December what is it? >> Third or fourth. >> Third or fourth. December 3rd or fourth. Over Thanksgiving, while you're stuffing yourself with turkey, you have to lay down. You're so full. Pick up those
applications, review them, and pick your three names. Let's bring them in. >> Commissioner, I'm sorry to interrupt. I just want to place on the record, the manager and I have talked about this. He will present something to you. If we can get to the manager's report, he has a
revised timeline for you to consider and adopt and and we've gone through it and give us a few minutes. >> None of that means a thing. I appreciate it. None of it means a thing. If I can't get from everybody a commitment that they're going to follow what he says
because I want to tell you by this January 10th, he could be replaced and the week from January 10th to February 1st would be the double manager. We're gonna have to pay a double manager. So that could be January 1st to January
31st. >> Yes. So So through the mayor and through the manager because I want this I really want this answered. Um can Mr. Romani please answer the question? >> What's the question? Commissioner >> I don't know whatever it was that she said that you
>> question is is from my understanding. >> Yeah. Commissioner Sue, I think you called me and you asked me about these three items because I think you had attended the meeting. I had to leave early. I I mentioned to you that there was a meeting. The budget administrator was at the meeting uh with public works
and with the city manager. I was not in that meeting to discuss the details. So, the agenda was drafted. The memo was drafted. I looked at it. I I had a conversation with with the city manager in his office. I shared with him some comment and that's what it is. I did not
say it's illegal, but I shared my comments with the with the city manager. >> I don't know how this works, but can I get a word in? I don't know. >> Go ahead. Uh go ahead, director, so we can finish up, please. >> Um, so I had a meeting with my direct um with with the city managers and the budget manager whom I report to. And it
was a meeting of the mine to look at our CIP portfolio. And at that meeting, the city manager actually didn't even know what we were presenting to him. It was a proposal as to how we can use the CIP dollars to meet this emergency situation. During our our our department's agenda review, which is we
have with all the directors, including the deputy city manager, I did go through the memo and talked about exactly what the proposal was. So, um, so you did you were aware, sir. >> All right, we have a motion and a second. All in favor say I.
>> I. Passes. Next item is the >> 9.6. Mayor, it's up for it was from pull from consent up for discussion. Item 9.6. >> Move to introduce resolution number R2025-166. >> Second. Can >> I just interject something? I want to
make sure Commissioner Sue knows. You didn't answer. Do you know what your vote was? Because you didn't answer yes or no. >> What? What do you mean? >> She didn't answer. It's the last vote. your mic. >> Oh my god. >> I think she Did you Did you not vote?
>> Do you know what your vote was? Cuz you question. So >> you did not vote. So you know what your vote is? >> Yes, I do. Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. But all right. >> This Moren the ordinance. May I bring that up?
>> Um what? No. It's she she she mentioned that the ordinance where the I guess the um economic development it was not put into the agenda. We already voted on it. It's going to come up for second reading. You'll have your thoughts there. So So
>> item 9.6 resolution number R2025-166 reaffirming the city's participation in the sister city program sponsored by Mayor Joseph, Commissioner Smith, Commissioner Smuckler, Commissioner Furomand, and Commissioner Chernoff. resolution of the mayor and city commission of the city of North Miami
Beach, Florida, reaffirming participation in the sister city program and authorizing the exploration yes of new partnerships with cities in Israel, Morocco, Taiwan, and Haiti. Authorizing the city manager designated to do all things necessary to effectuate this
resolution, providing for conflicts and running for scrimmage errors, providing for severability and providing for an effective date. >> Motion to approve. >> Second. >> Discussion. say your thoughts, please. >> Thank you. Okay. So, um
first of all, I when I first became a commissioner, Mr. Mayor said that we already have a sister city in Israel. Do we? >> That's what's a question. I really >> We've had sister city for years. >> Years. No, I'm trying to add possibly. Yes. >> Have we have Israel?
>> Is what? >> What other cities? >> Always had Israel. >> Not the country. >> Not the country. That's not how it operates. >> No, I understand. I mean like so we have one from Israel and we have one from Haiti. That's that's the question that I have. >> No, >> what do what is the current present
thing that we have? That's what I wanted to know. >> No, this is explore and add additional. So like um one one example is h adding Tel Aviv. We have another um city that we currently have. I can't remember the name but it's like not too far from it but this would be a re um engagement in that. Another city that I think
commissioner Flormont I think was OKAP which is a city of city in Haiti or a province I don't know I don't >> Haiti >> in Haiti >> it's in Haiti um so it's about the re-engagement we've had sister cities in this city going on 40 something years we have if you Google the website it has it
it shows when McDonald was went to Italy and opened up a sister cities there through a relationship this is just a re-engagement nothing more so my >> so what my question is actually it was from I'm just mandated from the residents to ask that that we are not
going to invest a load of money in travel expenses going to these countries sister cities where it's not actually benefiting our residents. That's that's what I'm here to say about this. >> Thank you. All in favor say I. >> I. >> I. >> Okay. Mr. Mayor, I want pass.
>> I see that most people through the through the chair I would have love an opportunity to add a country to the list. How how does that work? Does that have to go through official res? >> No, you can you may I answer the question for you?
>> Yes. >> Thank you. Um there's a couple ways it could work. It could work, but the simplest and fastest would be if you move to add a country right now just to amend the motion and just do that. >> It passed. >> No, it was the a raggedy vote.
>> Okay. Just if you want to just take >> I will also just Okay. She she didn't >> be less discussion. >> No no no no but yes you can add other s cities. This is a re-engagement. Yes. Send the request to the city manager. Now manager. >> No no no no no. >> That works. No. You can send a request
>> if the request is sent. The question was what's the process? So does it have to be brought forth again or will it be considered in this particular? >> It'll be considered. That's that's the process of cities. You re-engage them. You start the process. So you don't necessarily have you don't have to come back. That's >> okay. That's what I wanted to make sure. >> Thank you.
>> Cuz that's not what he said. You said I could amend it right now. >> Economic development of my program >> either. But I'm saying that's what it is. If you have a request, submit it including >> You got that, Madam Clerk? >> Yes. >> Because I have some cities in mind. >> You mention the country. >> No, I don't want to speed her through that that wait. That being
>> Please, please, please, please let me >> let me let me >> let me chair chair. Let the chair chair. >> Mr. Manager, we are we are Madame Clerk, we're we we passed discussion. Now we're going to manager report. Do we have any NB water updates?
>> Can Can I have a point? A little point. I'm so sorry. I'm I'm a little bit confused with um Commissioner Smith asked Commissioner Sue if she voted or not at the manager. I just don't know what the >> I'm confused saying too. >> She didn't say anything last,
>> but she's >> But I didn't object. >> No, you have to vote. >> We have to vote. So, are you voting no on the on the not the sister city one be or >> talking about the city manager? >> City manager. Do you vote no on that? >> Vote. We're supposed We have to vote. >> Yes. >> So, did you vote no? >> Everyone must vote unless there's a
legal contest >> because we don't want to have a situation where you say, you know, there's a minute issue. >> But I thought a silent vote is >> No. No. No. We're not going back to that. >> No, no, no. We're not I read it last month. I read that whole thing that we have to vote.
>> Yes. >> So, what's your Did you Did you not vote or do you want to make clear make clear your vote? >> I can make clear my vote. I vote yes. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> All right. Now, could I say something? >> Yes. >> The sister city is just a piece of
paper. We've been a member of sister city for years. We pay a year we pay a yearly dues. It has nothing to do with any money out of city funds. The trip that I went on, every single dollar was
paid by that country. And what wasn't was paid by Phyllis Smith's personal pocket. >> Yes. >> The sister cities is strictly to make relationships with cities that come before us and share their vision, including North
Miami Beach and cities where we have a a heartstring tied to. That's what it is. >> Can Can I close Can I say close this one because I know we have a time span. Here's a great example. Aventuroured through um they're sponsored for Hudzala
the the ambulance vans. You know what I'm talking about, right? >> Yeah. They bought >> they bought they just bought one. The mayor went over there because of that sister city relationship. Yes. When it comes to like those relationships have to be fostered and I don't think there's anybody on on this deis that would object to something like that. Let's be
very clear, >> right? The community knows that. The people that are watching out know out there knows that how we're unresolved. So when we building as we're building those relationship I don't want to have any question where there it's like being questioned in a sense of that type of
like familiarity and this is not something new cities do this all the time. >> Yes. >> And there's never a time you can't say when you go on a trip that wasn't one dime out of this city. I learned three
things that I hope our city will implement. And I especially learned all the conversation about speed bumps, speed bumps, speed bumps. When you go to Casablanca, that's all there are. There two or three in every street and nobody says a word. Guess what? I got a phone
call today from somebody that really from my heart touched me. He he worked on a speed bump on 174th Street and he didn't get it. I'm working on a speed bump on 175th that somebody came that the children are going to be. People are
fighting not to get speed bumps when speed bumps work. And how do you know it? You see it with your own eyes. >> But Commissioner in Casablanca, those things are called camels. >> But Commissioner Smith through the the mayor, Commissioner Smith, my concern is
like the Japan trip cost the city about five grand. So that's why and we don't see a report from that, you know. >> Whoa, whoa, whoa. There was a report. I saw I looked at the report that was in the manager's report last month. >> There was a report. Yeah. >> Yes, there's a video. I don't see.
>> No, no, there was a No, no, no. There was not just a video. There was a report. There was >> Can we Can we go to the updates, please? Mr. Manag Mr. Chair. >> No, no, no, no, no, no. What I'll do, >> Email me the report, please. >> Please email the report.
>> The quorum. Madam Mr. City Manager, continue on. Thank you. >> Why weren't we all invited to Morocco then? >> Oh, no. I can explain that. No, no, no, no, no, no. You want to explain? Yeah, I'd like to know that. >> I'm sorry to say it again, but to speak at a meeting, you must be recognized by
the presiding officer. You do not have the floor because you have a loud voice. You have the floor because you are recognized by the presiding officer. Whoever is presiding in the chair must
recognize you and then you have the floor. >> Mr. Badger, you have a process. I know that you you're going to email that process to us. Um explain that. I understand it's in the updates we have. Uh outside of that, um when it comes to
the enemy water highlights, do we have anything else? >> Enemy water. >> He has another thing. No, no, we're No, we're I'm going No, I'm I'm I'm going I'm No, he's going to email us the process. But my thing is this. In regards to the NB NBPD monthly report,
is the chief here? Please, Chief, I haven't No, Mr. City attorney, please. Um, Mr. Chief, can you come up, please? Please, >> Chief. >> It's okay, Chief. You can you can come up, chief. It's okay. >> I I I don't think the chief was uh ready
to present. I think it's just in uh in your packet. >> No, no. I I'm I'm pulling up like like I said I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to go from there to the Washington >> Park update capital improvements and then we're going to try to wrap this up. So chief because it's been a while >> if you can speak to your update please. >> Yeah. So good afternoon good evening
>> and because you had a cold case that recently closed out. So please that's what I wanted to mention next month. >> Okay. So I I like the manager said I don't have the report in front of me. It's all submitted to the manager's office monthly. Um, but I would like to update uh over the weekend our cold case unit did make a significant arrest. Uh,
10-year-old homicide. Uh, we're able to make an arrest on that. We'll be having a press conference on Thursday. Thank you. That's a testament to our cold case unit that has proven to be extremely effective. This is our second cold case homicide arrest that we've
made this year. Uh, so uh we hope to have many more. >> When's the press conference? It's going to be scheduled for this Thursday at 10 a.m. I'm sorry I I just got that information now. So, uh the family of the victim was notified today. Uh they're ecstatic as you can imagine. Um state attorney's office played a big
role in that. Uh the Broward Sheriff's Office as well helped us out with that. But kudos to our team. Uh magnificent job by all of them and um the manager has the the rest of reports. Our team has done a phenomenal job um this whole year entirely. Um several arrests have been made. We have made a proactive
effort to address all the quality of issue uh quality of life issues in the city. We get those complaints from our residents. We acknowledge them. Please, if you see something, say something, please. Um and you know, that's pretty much all I have for right now. I don't have a report in front of me, so I apologize.
>> It's amazing, Chief. Congratulations. >> Thank you, Mr. Farmer. Um uh Chief, um Chief, I I just wanted to to reaffirm, and I think everybody here would would would um say the same thing. reaffirm our support and our our trust in the
work that you and deputy chief and the entire NMBBPD is doing. So, just wanted to um make that um statement publicly. We appreciate all of you guys. Thank you. >> And we appreciate all your support. And I could just add as far as the recruiting front, uh we're on on pace right now to send 15 cadetses to the
academy in February. Aside from that, we have about I would say four to eight laterals that are interested leaving the agencies that they're currenting in to come join our team. So, it's >> we can get the FRS into um into our city, they'll definitely
>> that's a big bonus. Correct. >> Thank you. >> Thank you very Thank you, Chief. Um city attorney, you had one last item, please. >> Done. I have a city attorney. No, we're we're going to go to C we're we're with you right now. So, please go ahead. >> Thank you.
>> Two items very quickly. The first one is um based on uh recent conversations and recent occurrences and some discussions here on the deis. I'd like to announce a new policy. Um it's obviously voluntary because I work for
you and I'm clear it's not vice versa. But because we have a lot of questions that seem to come up uh on the deis about the legality, uh I think that Commissioner Smith alluded correctly to the fact that that work principally
should take place in advance. I'd like to have the opportunity at your discretion, Commissioners. Um, I know that there's typically historically been an agenda review that takes place with the manager's office, and I'm certainly
glad to see that we're going to at least have some stability there, at least till you can get to your permanent manager, assuming you do it promptly. But I'd like to institute a policy of having agenda review with the city attorney's office for every commissioner who has
the opportunity and the inclination after the agenda is published. That's a week in advance. And there's plenty of time that I can find. I will accommodate your schedules, but I'd like to offer the opportunity to have agenda review
prior to each agenda. I coordinate that on a regular basis with the manager and his staff, the deputy, the assistant, the executive assistant. We talk about all this. There may be a question you have that I have to defer to them, but
certainly as to the legalities and the method and how what's going on, I'd like to have the opportunity to brief each of you in an agenda review in that week between publication by the clerk and when we have the meeting. So that's
number one. Item two, uh I'll be very brief, but once again, I've received an email relating to eminent domain. I would like to point out that in the email from the resident, Mr. Templar, who was uncharacteristically
highly complimentary to this commission tonight. >> Very clear. >> It does. >> It's been It's a rare thing to get a a clap from Miss Boa. Probably won't last, but I appreciate >> from Mr. Templar, who I've known for many years, and we have certainly a long
relationship, Mr. Templar and I, but thank thanks to him. But he notes in his email inquiring that I appined months ago. And let me just say quickly so it's on the record again.
People own property. We do not have the right to simply take someone's property because we feel like it. They can sell it to us if they want to. We can make an agreement if we can. But as Commissioner
Smith and I again, sorry to keep invoking your name, Commissioner, but as we discussed, you can't just say, "Hey, nice piece of property you got there. I'll take it." There must be a specific, not just public purpose. There has to be
a public necessity. We cannot institute eminent domain proceedings and say, "We'd like to own that. Once we get it, we'll figure out what we want to do with it because people can contest eminent
domain and if there is not a public necessity, not public whim or inclination, we will lose. So at the point when someone effectively defines a not just public need but a
public necessity for taking someone's private property against their will if that stands muster then we can proceed with eminent domain until that happens an expression of will from the
commission that we'd like to own it which apparently did happen. That is insufficient basis for us to institute eminent domain proceedings. And it would take a specific vote that is litigation.
It would also take a specific vote to sue this gentleman and take his property away against his will. And that can only happen when you have no other method and no other choice and you need it. I want the record to be
clear on that. There should be no further inquiries about it until something happens that demonstrates the public necessity. Thank you. I'll certainly take >> No. Thank Thank you for the Thank you for the update.
>> Okay. Now we're going down the list. Next commission meeting is Tuesday, December 16, 2025. Do I have a motion to adjurnn? >> I have a pro point of personal privilege. >> The update. Yeah, he's gonna send us timeline. >> He's going to send us the update. >> All right. >> Wait, I also want a point of personal
privilege. >> I am. >> Please give the one update regarding the tennis center. >> Well, we need Yes, we need to um have a special meeting to go over the presentations of the tennis for the tennis center uh RFP that came through.
We're waiting we're waiting uh to to to get a set a date. The clerk is will be reaching out. Please, please, please. This is important for us to move forward with that project that we set a special meeting so you guys can review and vote on the presentations. >> Could we Could we have >> Wasn't he supposed to tell us?
>> Wait, could we have his date? >> Mr. Mayor, >> Mr. Mayor, >> wasn't he also supposed to say the procedure that we're >> He's going to send us He was supposed to send us the up. Yeah, he has he has a procedure, but he's going to send us. >> Oh, he's going to send it to us. >> He's going to send it to us. That's what I'm saying. He said so. >> He's going to send it. >> It's It's in the update. He's going to
supposed to send it to us. No, but if he gives us that date, why can't we have a special meeting that date? That will be the great thing day. >> It wouldn't be the same date, Commissioner. That's what I'm saying. >> You have to have it. Listen, with all difference, first you have to date when it's when the resumes are due. Then you
need a date when your votes are due. And then you have to allow HR to do preliminary background checks. And you need a meeting to whittle down semi- finalists to finalists. I know what what date what kind of date is he talking about for that >> for about what?
>> So what the special meeting I'm talking about is for the uh tennis the the redevelopment >> uh >> is it December 5th or December 15th? >> No, no, we're going to try to set it up. I'll set up I'll talk I'll follow up with the manager. I know it's it's priority for commissioner turnoff. We're going to make that happen because we
have the RFPs already set up. That being said, do I have a >> Wait, come on now. like you please >> when December about >> I'm around the second week of December hopefully.
>> Can I have a motion? Can I have a motion to adjurnn? >> Make the motion. >> All in favor say I. I >> All right. Thank you so very much. See you. >> I need to overturn. I need to resend my vote.