Thank you all for being here on time. We appreciate it. But I don't know where my colleagues are. We're checking on that. What was that? Oh. Good to see you. Yes, >> sounds good. >> We don't want them to waste our time.
>> Yeah. Be careful having already happened. Well, the Americans play now or an hour. An hour >> at 8, right? >> Yeah. >> Who knows if the football game for you
today at 8 >> so nervous. I want them to win. When do you come back? >> 10th at night. >> 10th at Friday night. >> The the meeting ends at on the 10th and then I come back.
>> Hello. How are you? >> Very nice. How about you? >> I know. No, no. I have my >> and I watched on TV too. >> So I know it's ridiculous. No, the committes the federal advocacy
committees are meeting. >> So you can tell me where to go. >> We didn't hear you. This is >> I don't think I have time to go to >> the national. >> All right, guys. I'm gonna start.
>> Fortuna, I'm gonna start. >> Tell Phyllis Yes. >> Yeah. >> Good. Good evening everybody. >> We're going to call the July 6th meeting to order, but it's not going to be a commission meeting. It's going to be a
workshop due to the lack of quorum. We need one more. So, I apologize. That's not our fault obviously, but my colleagues aren't here, the rest of them. So, what we're going to do is the presentations tonight and then we'll
follow up with the what we think of the presentations after. So, that way you're not wasting your time for being here. Comm >> Commissioner, let me just say for the record um that there's certainly no issue with hearing the presentations. If
uh in the course of proceedings, if someone comes in and gives you quorum and you still have quorum, you can then proceed. So, we're not absolutely waving that. But at the moment, yes, it's proper to listen to the presentations and if you have questions, you can ask
those too. But I would caution the >> Does Lynn does uh Danielle count as quorum coming in? >> Uh you have to have a physical quorum. >> So even though five commissioners are present, including one by Zoom, you must have a physical quorum present, which
you do not. That said, you may get that. I just would ask that if you have any questions that's perfectly fine but please don't make evaluative well that solves that problem. >> All right Mr. Vice Mayor take over the meeting.
>> We just started >> quorum in the house. >> All right. But I I just want to say for the record that um I can't I'm leaving at 7:30. I thought that there would be full quorum and I've had this plan for
like 6 months now. So >> you you you have full quorum. >> Okay. >> Yeah. But if I leave >> five in five in the house, one on on Zoom and I I heard the other one is going to be coming too. So >> Okay. >> Still it depends on who's here, but if there's are five on the deis at that
time, you still have full quorum. >> All right, let's rock and roll. Good good afternoon everyone or good evening. Thank you so much for joining us. Um, and we appreciate your time, especially with the weather um, and everything that's going on with uh, the rain and thunder. So, we appreciate you guys
making it here and thanks to our colleagues for your patience as well. Um, Mr. Attorney, Mr. Manager, Madam City Clerk, um, let's get started. Roll call, please. >> F the manager can call the first presentation that's in the Mr. Manager.
>> Oh, excuse me. Commissioner Shernoff >> here. >> Commissioner Jean >> here. >> Participating remotely. Commissioner Smith >> present. >> Commissioner Smuckler >> present. >> Commissioner Sue >> here.
>> Vice Mayor Florimmon >> here. >> Mayor Joseph is running late and will try to get here as soon as he can. >> Okay. Pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the
republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [clears throat] >> All righty. U we're going to also uh proceed with public comment. If anyone has a comment related to the items that we're about to hear, um please come up.
Madam clerk, do you have a statement to make? >> Good evening everyone. The mayor and commissioner of the city of North Miami Beach has opened the floor for public comment at this time. There is a threeminut time limit for each speaker. Speaker, when you're called to the podium, please state your name or the
name of the organization which you are representing. The mayor and commissioner of the city of North Miami Beach request that all in attendance to exercise civility towards each other. Do we have anyone for public comment? Vice Mayor, none has come forward. Okay,
public comment is now closed and we are going to proceed to 4.1 tennis court proposals from the short list finalists. Um, this is a item sponsored by city manager Darvin Williams. We have before us uh four organizations that will be
making presentations. Liberty Base, NMB Academy, US Soccer Enterprise, and Macken Companies. Proceed, Mr. Manager. >> Excuse me. Is there a time limit for each? Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Vice Mayor. So, we are very excited to uh move this item
forward. Each present presenter will have 10 minutes to do your presentation. Uh subsequently, the commission will have five minutes to give a Q&A session and then we move on to the next presenter. So I I'll now turn it over to uh Sharice Depuza who is our procurement
CIO, excuse me, our procurement chief and look forward to getting some additional instructions from her and we're ready to move it forward. Thank you all for coming. >> Good evening everyone. Thank you so much for being here. Um we've had the opportunity to share a bit before
getting started about exactly what the manager just mentioned. So again, we're excited to see your presentations. We're going to start in alphabetical order with Liberty Base. Um, our IT department has already loaded all of the presentations. So, um, you Liberty Bass can come up and get started with your,
um, your illustrations and start your presentation. video. >> No, I'm going to speak first and then the video. Will you tell me when I can click to it so I can start? button is going to play
>> and then it'll go to the PowerPoint. >> It's a it's a >> do I can figure it out as I'm speaking. Right. There is >> their actual site. So, there was a question from the deis if what we're seeing on the screen is
also going to be broadcasted on NMBB uh TV. >> Streaming. Okay. Thank you. >> I'll just click play. Okay. >> Did I warn them that I I almost hit a ball over the fence? over the one time.
I almost hit it over. I mean, I want them to know who they're dealing with. [clears throat] >> All set. All right. Uh good evening, vice mayor, commissioners, distinguished city officials. Thank you for the opportunity to be here tonight and a
special thank you to the procurement management department for uh your continued efforts coordinating this process and this evening's presentation initiative. We're excited to stand before you tonight following the delivery of our proposal this evening. We have the opportunity to bring that
vision to life. My name is Francine Delar Roa representing Libertybased Investments and I'm here on behalf of our entire development team, Libertybased Investments, the Apollo companies, and the sports facilities companies. Joining us remotely is Leon O'Halvo, president of Libertybased
Investments. Together, we bring decades of experience in real estate development, design, construction, investment, and large-scale project execution, combining the vision, financial strength, and proven expertise needed to successfully
deliver a transformative project of this scale. Please direct your attention for a brief video presentation. There's no sound. >> Is there a sign? vice mayor. I'd like to give her a little extra time being as she's has a
little bit of a problem. >> Thank you. So there's no sound. I'll Can I May I start it again and I'll read I'll read it? I'll narrate the video. >> Okay.
A global destination where culture comes alive where sports and recreation thrive. An active lifestyle, community and well-being for every age and every ability.
A destination for all. An unparalleled location in the heart of North Miami Beach. ready to be reimagined from what it is to what it can be. The future of North Miami Beach starts here.
And with your permission, if you'll allow, maybe we can email it to you so you get the full understanding of the video. Okay. Our vision is simple. Oh, no. Sh present. Y couldn't get it to load.
>> It's not up on the screen. >> My apologies, commissioners. We tried very hard for this. There we go. Okay. All right, here we go. Our vision is simple. To create a place where sports, culture,
dining, wellness, and community come together under one roof for every resident of North Miami Beach. This is not simply another park. It's a destination, a landmark, a place the community will proudly call its own.
It's important to recognize what makes this opportunity so special today. This opportunity is an underutilized public asset with extraordinary potential. Its size, central location, visibility, proximity to major transportation corridors make it one of the most
valuable redevelopment opportunities in North Miami Beach. Our goal is not simply to improve what's here, but to unlock its full potential and transform it into vibrant destination that serves residents every day while attracting visitors, events, and economic activity
from across South Florida. And it all comes together on a site that's impossible to duplicate. Highly visible, centrally loca lo located, and perfectly positioned to become one of North Miami Beach's defining landmarks.
Here's how our vision comes together. The complex features covered and outdoor tennis courts, pickle ball and paddle courts, a multi-purpose stadium capable of hosting up to 3,000 spectators for
tournaments and community events, a vibrant clubhouse, and a 90,000 square foot mixeduse building featuring retail, dining, fitness, and flexible event spaces. But this is much more than a sports complex. It includes a dog park,
skate park, splash pad, walking trails connecting to Snake Creek, and inviting public spaces designed for families to gather year round. The site takes everything into account from how people will arrive to how they will move through it. ample parking, EV charging
stations, well planned pedestrian circulation, dedicated drop off areas, bike access, and seamless integration with the public transportation system, making making this complex not only accessible, but
very convenient. This design doesn't just get dropped into North Miami Beach, it's built from it. Adjacent to the to the site stands one of the city's most recognized landmarks, the ancient Spanish monastery. Our design will allow for
future collaboration and connection between the sites. Inside the complex, the food, music, art, and programming celebrate Caribbean, Latin, and multicultural identities that make this community so unique. And it all comes together on a site that's impossible to
duplicate. Highly visible, centrally located, perfectly positioned to become North Miami Beach's defining landmark. This isn't simply part of the design. We've made it the foundation. As you can see, we've thoughtfully
designed something that's incredibly special, where community gathers, where lifestyle meets recreation, and where competition comes alive. Because great facilities are only as successful as the team behind them. Our operating partner is the Sports
Facilities Companies, the nation's largest and fastest growing manager of sports and recreation venues. SFC has spent nearly two decades demonstrating that these facilities can generate both meaningful community impact and long-term financial sustainability.
Widely recognized as the leader in planning, developing, and operating sports, recreation, and entertainment destinations, they support more than 3,500 communities, and have overseen over 15 billion in sports and recreation developments. And today, they manage
over a 100 venues nationwide, welcoming nearly 30 million visitors each year, while generating close to$1 billion dollars annually in economic impact for the communities they serve. When we first approached them during the RFQ process, they immediately recognize the
potential of North Miami Beach. Their experience gives us confidence not only in delivering this project successfully, but in operating it at the highest level for decades to come. Their national network gives this project immediate advantages, proven operating systems,
established tournament relationships, national marketing research, sponsorship opportunities, purchasing power, and an experienced team of specialists in finance, programming, event booking, hospitality, and facilities management. They aren't learning on this project.
They've mastered it. Simply put, our goal is to create one of South Florida's premier community and sports destinations. There is no stronger operating partner than the sports facilities companies. We're also assembling an exceptional network of partners across sports,
wellness, entertainment, dining, retail and culture. That includes nationally recognized brands, professional athletes and coaches, renowned chefs, leaders in the music industry, and equally important, the talent, the talented entrepreneurs and businesses that
already call North Miami Beach home. These partnerships will ensure that this facility isn't simply a beautiful facility. It's an active destination from day one. The opportunity here is significant.
South Florida experiences heat and heavy rain much of the year. Climate controlled indoor courts eliminate that challenge. Demand for quality tennis, pickle, and paddle ball tennis, pickle ball, and paddle facilities continue to outpace the supply throughout our region
from youth programs to professional events. Com Combined with this site's central location, highway accessibility, transit connections, and visibility, club NMBB is uniquely positioned to become a recre
a regional destination. But success won't be measured only by visitors. It will be measured by residents who finally have a place to gather, exercise, celebrate, dine, and spend time together across generations. We focused ex extensively on what
happens behind the scenes together with our civil engineers, the name, the same firm behind Miami Open Tennis Center and the Miami Dolphins training facility. We've already addressed the major civil engineering components including portable water, sanitary sewer, sanitary
sewer connection, storm water management, and flood mitigation designed to meet Miami Dade's county, Miami Dade County standards. This isn't simply conceptual. It's a project designed with implementation in mind. I don't know what to do.
Okay, now imagine this. A Saturday afternoon, farmers market fills the lawns. Children's participate. Children participate in tennis clinics. Families gather at the splash park. Skaters enjoy the skate plaza. Local artists perform
on stage as live music begins in the evening. A resident, a young athlete, a local business owner, and a visitor from the monastery all share the same space for different reasons, but together. That's exactly the type of community that we are creating. And before we
designed any of it, we listened. This proposal reflects the priorities residents shared through the city's community survey. Every element from sports facilities, and cultural programming to EV charging stations, illuminated walkways, trolley connectivity, and accessible public
spaces has been designed with a purpose in mind. A space that belongs to you, the city of North Miami Beach. As we move into the financial phase, we'll also introduce a resident first membership structure with meaningful with meaningful benefits for North Miami
Beach families. Even the brand has been thoughtfully developed to create long-term value for the city through sponsorships, events, merchandise, and a cohesive identity. Club NMBB becomes more than a facility. it becomes a recognizable destination
that generates pride, additional revenue, and additional revenue opportunities. Before we conclude, I'd like to leave you with one thought. This presentation represents the second phase of a very detailed pro process. During the first
phase request for qualifications, our team was honored to receive the highest ranking among amongst all respondents. tonight in another step toward the final phase where financial proposals will be presented. When the time comes, we're all we are ready. Ready with experience,
ready with partnerships, ready with a financial plan, and most importantly, ready to deliver. If done right, this project becomes far more than a recreational complex. It becomes a symbol of what North Miami Beach stands for. A city that values diversity,
community, opportunity, excellence. We would be honored to f to build that future with you. Thank you. [applause] >> All right. Um, thank you so much for your presentation. Um, Miss Mr. Manager
is not here, but Mr. ACM and our procurement directors here as well. Were we asking questions immediately after the presentations or do we wait until they're all completed? >> Immediately. Okay. All right. Uh we're going to go ahead and start with uh Commissioner Smith. >> Thank you very much. Um what's the name
going to be of the project? You mentioned Club NMBB. What is the name? We we can decide that later on or together. But internally as a team, we've been calling it club NMBB for a long time because that that becomes very
important. Some of the municipalities that are adjoining us like to have their name on some of North Miami Beach's property. And that's why it's important to me to find out what the name is going to be on the projects or at least let North Miami Beach have a say so what the
name's going to be. Um, you said there's national marketing. What's the local marketing going to be? >> Anything really. So, going back to the name Club NMBB, we wanted to make sure, well, internally we've been calling it Club NMBB, but we wanted to make sure
that at least some portion of the name um makes reference and offer, you know, and honors the city of North Miami Beach. But no name has been decided. That can be something that's decided along with the city or even with the residents. uh we just want it to be something catchy, something that's easy
to pronounce in different languages since we are a multicultural community. And then as for um national brands and marketing and local marketing in my presentation, I mentioned the importance of um local businesses and entrepreneurs
and we want to make sure that we incorporate that every step of the way. So there will be ample opportunities for cultural events, dining, um retail, and our first choice is going to be um local businesses.
>> And for North Miami Beach, >> sorry, for North Miami Beach for the residents, is there an incentive? Is there's discounts? Is there's I I heard you mention something, but not specific enough for me to see what your plan is for the residents of our city. Per the
instructions we received for um this presentation, we were not supposed to focus at all on the financial model, but we recognize from day one from the request for uh qualifications. Our financial model, which favors the residents of North Miami Beach, was
included in the RFQ and also was detailed in the RFP, not detailed, but um addressed and I addressed it in the presentation as well. We recognize the importance and um there will be a plan for residents. >> Okay. Um there's a couple more. I came
prepared with questions after looking through the through my binder, but let me ask staff a question hearing what the answer was just now. Financially obligated. Are we obligated to not only pres provide the land, but are we
obligated financially to also participate in the complex being built? So to answer the question, are are we obligated to >> not obligation, that's not the correct word. Are we going to participate or were we is that a possibility of whoever
is the developer that we would be also financially involved? >> Well, that is always a possibility. This is a proposal for P3, public private partnership, which is why she said, you know, we can negotiate on the name. This is our proposal for the name, but we can
negotiate on the name, which is also none of these presenters have a contract with us yet. They are coming to you for you to rank them based on their presentations of their vision of what to do with our property. Uh once they're ranked, we will then go into negotiations where we'll work out some
of the financial details um with first the number one ranked person and should those f should they not be able to meet those financial requirements that the city puts forward then we'll move to your second choice and that's going to be our process. >> That's an unusual decision for us because maybe the one we love the most
costs the most and it's not something we could afford. So, we would sacrifice some of the project to be able to be under our umbrella of financially solvent. Okay. Um, I just I don't want to minger because I've got quite a few
that I want to ask to make sure I understand. The the dog park and I think you said skate park, but the dog park and the trails, are they going to be open to the public 24 hours a day? How's that going to work? Is it an hourly
thing that on Saturday and Sunday it's from 7 in the morning till 10 at night and during the week it's 8:00 in the morning till 6? I mean, how how's it going to work with because dog parks people go to at all hours. So, that's
what I'd like to know. What kind of hours what kind of flexibility we have with that? Again, these are all questions that we're taking and these are all considerations that we've been uh you know contemplating since day one since we um decided to apply for the
RFQ. This is a general idea. Maybe we meet with the city and uh a skate park is while it was, you know, weighed heavily in the um survey that was passed along
to you, you know, to the residents, maybe we decide that that space is not best suited for a skate park. Maybe we want to do an outdoor gym. Nothing of this is set in stone. It's our vision from multi-gener multigenerational
recreational complex other than knowing that it must include triet sports. We we know for a fact the city wants tennis courts, pickle ball courts, um and paddle courts. We know that the city wants a
walking trail. So, there are details in our site map that could potentially change based on our conversations with you, the commissioners, with other people that are involved. Um, and we've left wiggle room to maybe adapt some of those spaces.
>> Okay. I have two more quick question. Well, I hope it's only two. Um, will there be special event days and then will you have enough parking for those special event days? >> [snorts] >> So in the presentation I addressed that
there will be ample parking um also >> because I've noticed you know we've watched in um the municipality that's joining us we've watched them build up their I mean their stadium their events their everything and even with all that
the parking's always full and parking is always difficult so that on on days like that there's enough problems now on that particular street for parking That was one of my questions. And how are you utilizing the water that's there
on that property? So f so first to address the um parking situation, we as um as mentioned during the presentation, EV charging stations, plenty of parking spaces, uh drop off and pickup areas for
um uh Ubers and lifts and and whatnot, bike racks, connectivity to public transportation. Those are all things that we're going to take into account given the size of this facility. The land is so valuable for this entertainment. Maybe the building
should have the parking within the building so that the land can have more room for entertainment for a kitty park for etc. >> That's that that's a possibility and it's been contemplated that 90 the
footprint of where the building is going to be uh allows us you know to build vertically and that will just depend on budget and how the financial model goes. um you know comes together >> the water there we've talked about
amongst ourselves or at least I've talked about it when we've been together that it would be a nice place to launch off if people wanted to go canoeing down that waterway. So that's why I'm asking you have you brought the waterfront future use into the plans?
>> We did want to incorporate a launchpad for kayaks and canoes. We prior to the presentation, the entire uh team of um presenters did do a walkth through um with city officials at Snyder Park and the uh complex. And we were told at that
moment that it's not um feasible. So, we left it out, but that doesn't mean that it can't be brought in at any moment. Just like I mentioned also the possibility to integrate with um the Spanish monastery. We haven't had conversations with the man Spanish monastery. So saying that we're going to
become one large complex and committing to that prior to even speaking with them. We didn't do that, but we left it open and our design allows for that immediately or maybe down the line. >> You were going to say something, Mr. Manager.
>> I was trying to jump into a sister there. Um, the reason why she's not able to answer that question is because we do not control that waterway. That waterway is controlled by the South Florida Water Management District. So, it would be inappropriate for uh someone developing
on city property to incorporate plans for that uh water feature. >> But can we go after them and get permission to do it because it's a waste not to utilize this? >> Well, I'm sure everything is possible. Absolutely. If they >> Okay, let's make that probable. >> Well, we need to make a decision first on
>> Okay. Well, >> actually, if I if I may. Yes. If if I may, I think on the canal when you're by um I'm not sure if it's Challenger Park near near the amphitheater, we actually have a ramp uh that gives access to boats. I don't know if you're familiar
with what I'm talking about, but when you're on the canal walkway and you're doing that 5K, >> there's a a little launch area one. Yeah. So, we do have something like that. >> Private one. >> Oh, it's private. >> It's private to that house. I know the only >> No, no, no, no, no. It's actually not
It's not coming from the back of a home. It's >> No, it's on the canal side and the then the house is back. >> No, no, it's right on It's on the It's on the west side of the canal right next to the park. So, there's where the There's a a big a big um drawing for um
the Heartwalk >> and then the police boats usually use that ramp to get on. I I've just always visioned I've always visioned that the complex should also include that because I know that that's a very successful activity at the park across Alita Park
that's a state park very successful activity and I think it would be so here thank you very much I came with questions I took too much time but the speakers after me those will be some of the questions I'll be repeating >> if I may say Commissioner Smith all of these we've walked that property
dozens of times since this project uh began. Our heads are spinning. Uh we spent a great deal of time with our architects and with our designers dreaming up doing our best song and dance, dreaming up of what best would
suit that piece of land and the and the residents of North Miami Beach. This is let's call it our first draft. Everything can be revised. Everything can be adjusted. We wanted to be very very respectful of the survey that the
residents of North Miami Beach provided and we made sure to include most if not all of the elements that the residents told us were important. We also recognized that uh North Miami Beach is at the epicenter of many many
cultural events. Formula 1, the Miami Open, Art Basle, um the South Beach Food and Wine Festival. There are so many opportunities to turn this complex into an unforgettable landmark for the city
of North Miami Beach and piggyback on or support some of these very very big cultural initiatives that I have absolutely no doubt will be very very lucrative for the city. >> The location is prime prime for everybody to come from south, north,
east, and west. is a prime location and we'd like to see it be something that was meant to be. >> You'd think there's enough um rackets racket sport facilities, but there aren't any that are covered or um that are covered or under a roof, and we know that that's going to be something that's
very very valuable. >> All right, thank you so much. Um >> Commissioner Smuggler, >> um being that I have to leave, I really don't want to take up any more time. So, um, I can always follow up with you guys or with the manager for any questions. Thank you.
>> Thank you. >> All right, Commissioner Sue. >> Um, actually, I have no questions. >> Commissioner Turnoff, >> my question is in the legend that we have in our book, I see that we have
eight pickle ball, looks like we have eight padell, and we only have seven tennis. How did you come up with what to do there? >> No, this is the old >> No, this isn't the >> May may look at the May look at the site plan. >> No, no, I'm counting very quickly.
>> I'm counting the each one that you have there. You have six for the tennis, >> correct? >> You have six for the Pedell, but then the two outside for Pedell >> up there. >> This is covered. >> Yeah,
>> these are all covered. Right. >> This is a multiuse um stadium or >> Right. I got that. >> And then these are six tennis courts. >> Okay. My my question my question is it's the judge Arthur Snider tennis facility
had 12 um clay courts and had 16 hard courts there that were the premier tennis center all along. And so our community is used to that being tennis. The going
to the pedal and the pickle is a change. So why all I ask is how come the tennis got the least? We wanted to show you how we can take advantage of this 10 acre fac. We do have enough space to shift everything forward and add up to 12
tennis courts. >> And what would you eliminate? Maybe not eliminate the um the building could be the um there's a lot of green space.
>> Okay. No, that was just the thought why the tennis was the least >> tennis wanted to take into account again what the res >> Thank you. >> He does have
>> Okay, we're going to um if you can ask your question and then we're going to proceed with uh Commissioner Jean and um let the record show that Mayor Joseph is here. >> Okay. So did you was there a survey of certain type the
reason why you gave certain amount of court courts to different things? >> No, it was just um this is the initial idea and you just wanted to show >> this is the initial idea and the way that it's laid out we can reaccommodate
it and readjust it. If the desire is more tennis, if the desire is um more paddle and pickle, we can again we can grow vertically. We can make additional you know pickle ball courts on the roof of the bu on the roof of the building.
We can make a a second story. >> So I just wanted to put it in there that um I one thing I noticed that's missing in the South Florida sports and is a quite popular sport. I mean, probably not as much as soccer, but but um is badminton.
>> That's a great idea. >> And it is nowhere to be found. I don't know where to go play badminton. Badminton. >> Badminton. >> You said it's popular. >> It's popular among people. I mean, >> 50 years ago was >> No, no, no. I'm sorry, but I mean, when
I go to Los Angeles, I you know, sometimes they have 24-hour bad and it is booked. It doesn't matter what time of day. >> So, it is quite a popular sport. It's indoor as well, so you know, it stands the weather.
>> So, we were looking and we had some conversations after we presented um the printed RFP, but the instructions were not to modify anything because you guys already had printed copies in hand. >> So, there was a conversation about the possibility of a sorry about the
possibility of um some tennis tournaments and the court requirement ideally would be eight to 10. So we already have an idea how we can accommodate more tennis courts. But again, this is our initial
site plan. We are most excited about the part about the partnerships that we built um with the sports facilities companies and the experience that they bring to the table. So we can revise um hopefully when we move on to the next phase. >> Absolutely. Thank you very much. Thank
you, Commissioner >> Danielle. You want to ask her the mayor? >> He doesn't does he know that she hasn't had a chance? >> Commissioner, >> hi. You guys can hear me. I guess the
question that I would have is true. Is there an area for food trucks or more um condensible uh a food area? I know there's a bar, but is there an area where temporary food vendors can be added?
So, farmers markets, food trucks, that's all very important uh as part of the community activation in addition to uh permanent dining within the um 90,000 square foot uh building that we've designed. Thank you. And the second question is
for the manager. Mr. Manager, um as you mentioned about uh financing, are we also looking for um revenue sharing opportunities as well or is that too early in this stage to consider?
>> Um thank you, Commissioner John. Yes. Uh once a a concept has been selected by the commission uh a lead concept has been selected by the commission that is going to be part of our discussion and moving forward with your selected
candidate. >> Thank you for me >> uh to answer that question or to answer also um your question about the specific site plan. We perfect we have three or four different ideas of what the
interior of our um building will look like. We didn't present those because until we sit down and actually meet with the city and understand and we and we get your full feedback. We can turn that into classrooms, shared office spaces.
There will include for sure um event and uh meeting and social halls. But the interior of that very big complex can be mapped a little bit differently. >> Is that it? >> Vice Mayor.
>> Thank you. >> I have a question. >> Y >> So [clears throat] um thank you so much for your presentation. You know I think that as I'm as I'm listening to the questions and I understand that our goal here is to figure out what concept we like. One of the things too that we have to balance is that we don't choose a
concept that we then turn around and redo completely to what we want, right? Because the whole goal is that someone here shows us something that wows us for us to pick from. Not they show us something and then we go, you know, and
then we revamp it all to something that we probably could have come up with ourselves. You see what I'm saying? Not diminishing what they're doing. That's not the point. What I'm saying is there there's so much that we can say once we pick a concept that can totally change what they presented to us and at that
point it's no longer what we chose. Am I >> That was my thought. And and so I I'm I I just have that concern as it relates to the the process itself that, you know, we're we're not just picking a um
a partner for a 3P, but we're actually picking pretty much in entirety the concept that will eventually be what we what we see there. A am I making sense? >> You are making sense. Uh, Vice Mayor, the alternative is for the city to make
a determination of exactly what is going to go in there into a set RFP process. That's the only alternative that we have. And once an RFP goes out with a set boundaries, with no flexibility on it, if we then make changes on it, then every person that bid could say, well, I
would have come in differently if I had been made aware of that change. So we left it intentionally broad so that you all could select a developer that you feel has the vision uh has the kind of flavor has the heart that you want to
partner with so that once that is selected they can then go into negotiation for a contract [clears throat] if you say you want then you can discuss your revenue sharing then you can discuss uh your dog park areas if you pict if you selected one that has a dog park but our only other
alternative and I'll defer to the I'll defer to our procurement uh director if she has some different visions on that, but I understand uh that this is why this is the the way this process was laid out. >> No. And I and I and I can appreciate that. Um because the concepts I'm really
taking in the concepts and all I'm saying is that I don't want us to choose a concept and then we go on this journey of literally tearing what they presented apart and coming up with something that is totally different. So, so I'd like
I'd like to close on our presentation since this uh conversation came up by saying this. >> We're very happy with what our presentation looks like. We are committed to making a recreational complex that serves
different generations and different hobbies and and and and interests. We are inheriting, you know, Snyder Tennis Park, which has 18 uh tennis courts. We want to be able to make honor
to that, but also add on top of that. It's not that our vision isn't clear. Our multi-recreational complex that includes covered tri racket sport courts is very important to us. That is at the center of our concept. But we can modify
if it's 12 pickle ball courts and eight tennis courts. When I say that, you know, we have some wiggle room. That's what I mean. >> Got it? It could be a small It could be a bigger splash pad and a smaller skate park or it could be no skate park at all
and an outdoor gym. We can It will be a recreate a mult you know a multi-use recreational complex that includes a covered building that has dining, spa, gym, retail and event spaces. >> Got it. >> But we can mod we can make certain
modifications. >> Yeah. think that message is is not is not only is is more for the deis. [clears throat] So I appreciate what you're saying but it's more the message is really more for us because one of the things I think that's important is that once we do select a concept that you
know I'm really about shoveling the ground, right? So that that's kind of what what's in my mind that we're not sitting here for a long time trying to, you know, appease too many desires that that may vary from what you what you or anyone else that we select have
presented that we can really bridge that gap between vision and and reality. >> That was one of the challenges when we read through the hundreds of commu of surveys that the community provided. There is such a broad vision for what the residents want. We tried to hone in
as much as possible to make sure that everybody feels like their interests are being served. Now from our point of view, yes, the concept is super important, but also the operations side of this complex is super important, which is why we built an extremely
robust team to not only put together a site plan that makes the most use out of this gem of a 10acre piece of land, but also operates very, very smoothly. >> Thank you. Thank you, the mayor. Um, I was the mayor. Just if I might one
moment, vice mayor, just as a comment. >> Um, >> you are hearing all of these visions that the developer has, but >> and what you said is a perfectly fine way to do what you want to do. That's a
matter of policy. But legally, you're choosing a developer more than a concept. M >> so if you like that somebody has a really outside the box thought and you think I want that developer because they're outside the box that doesn't
mean legally that as part of a a 3P which was the point the manager was making why this is a 3P. You can say I like that you're outside the box. You're you're my my team but we want a different box. You can do
that legally. Now, I understand you talked about operational reasons and shovel in the ground. That's you're free to do that. That's a matter of policy, but you're not procluded legally from picking who you want. >> But then, like I said, we like that
you're outside the box. We just want a different box. That's legally allowed. >> Thank you for the explanation. And I was just going to say that the um you know the concept of of a uh of an event space is is pretty good because we've done events here at the Spanish monastery
that have drawn very large crowds uh with our CRA. Soup and Champagne was one of those events and we saw the potential of what can be done there. So I definitely think this side of town needs a place where people can uh can gather for those types of events. Thank We we can talk about it further, but we spoke
to the organizers of the food and wine festival and personally that multi-use uh stadium that's an amphitheater. That's my favorite part. >> Thank you. >> Thanks. >> Um wait, I changed my mind. I do have a question. Um where can you show me where
the parking is going to be? [clears throat] >> So like how many cars would that being about? depending on what the final site plan needed. >> All right. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Liberty B.
>> Can I have one last question? >> Sorry. No, I just wanted to know you did mention something about sports like international sports. The question is like if we do build that kind of stadium um are you able to bring tournaments to
you know what I mean like what how is your connection work in bringing tournaments over to North Miami Beach? >> We are so ready. [laughter] Not only are we so ready and so well connected within the tennis world
during the Miami Open, we could have turned this into a training facility which is part of our turn into possibly a place where athletes of
you know different sports come and training specifically So yeah and the next question then is is that court like was it conceptually designed to be convertible so that various like paddle and um pickle ball
any tournaments can actually be hosted here. So there's internal conversation about having the courts meaning lines so that they can be used for both >> people that are deeply into tennis or
people don't really favor sports and kind of lowers the prestigial we might just want to have enough tennis courts and enough pickle balls. Gotcha. Last question is um if if and when we do agree,
>> how long does it take you to complete? >> Meaning like you know shovel on the ground. the considerations have already been mapped out which are one of the biggest concerns since you know we spent a great deal of time and even
this um inerson presentation was pushed back a little bit to give us some additional time to do additional research facilities which is our partner this is their we spent a great deal of time with and
recreational parks all ac so so the request is in our um packet Mac and companies comes next are we able to take it uh in that order >> okay >> it's not >> I don't know I'm looking at the agenda versus what I have in my hand. That's
what I'm saying. >> So, can can Mack and come? Okay, gotcha. >> Yeah. >> No, you're right. >> And Shereice, sorry, one more question. Since my audio didn't work and it was an important part of the presentation, would it be okay if I email? Will you
have it by email? Can you share it with the commissioners, please? >> Sure. >> Thank you. We can upload it and we can play it in the end again. They we have Where's somebody else? Are we ready? >> Yep. >> Oh, should we wait until
we should wait for the commissioner? >> Should we get started? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Good evening, Mayor Commissioners, city staff, thank you for your time and for the collaboration that's brought us to this point. I'm Jennifer Becker. I've worked with Mack and Companies for
nearly 20 years, and I've seen firsthand several projects that they've done come through to fruition. I see their track record of success, what it takes to deliver, and I know the standard this team holds itself to. So, with great enthusiasm and a deep commitment to
North Miami Beach, we're very proud to present our proposal for Park Dreams, a standout recreational destination designed to really raise the bar for what public space can be in South Florida. And this plan is built around the city's vision, a world-class
destination that brings together sports, culture, wellness, food, and beverage, and nature. and it does it so in a way that's innovative and ambitious while still protecting what makes a great park feel like a park. We've listened very
carefully. This proposal reflects all of the city's requirements and it incorporates key priorities and additional wishes that we heard directly from the residents and we bring local proof of delivery. The city's confidence in our team helped make Aura North Miami Beach possible directly adjacent to the
park site and already bringing new energy, new activity, exciting new tomarket tenants to the West Dixie corridor. We know this market and when we commit to something, we deliver. And most importantly, Park Dreams is being led by a true best of the best team.
Award-winning experts who deliver places people actually love, use, and are proud of. Mack and companies brings deep local roots and a proven track record of execution locally with Aura and Koa Bay town homes and all across South Florida throughout decades of delivered work.
ODP is known nationally and very locally for high impact civic and urban design, creating spaces that elevate the public realm and fit naturally into their surroundings. EDSA is one of the world's most respected park and landscape design
firms, recognized globally for creating memorable public spaces that endure. And H&M specializes in sports and community facilities, including some of the most recognized racket sports destinations in South Florida. So together, this really is our dream team
and the level that Park Dreams deserve and the level of team that North Miami Beach really deserves. So with that, I'm proud to introduce the visionary leader behind Macken Company's, Alan Mackin. >> Thank you, Jennifer. Good evening, everyone. >> Every city experiences defining moments.
Moments that shape its identity for generations. Opportunities like this are rare, and when they come along, they require both vision and the courage to get them right. I happen to believe this is one of those moments. It is truly an honor to be considered for this project of this significance. My team and I don't take this responsibility lightly.
In fact, this has become a passion project for all of us. For my family, it's also deeply personal. This isn't just another project for us. This is our hometown. I grew up here in North Miami Beach playing football in our city parks. I know firsthand how parks bring families together, create lifelong memories, and strengthen a community.
That understanding has guided every decision we've made. 5 years ago, we were among the first to recognize the potential of the Snyder Park Tennis Center and express our sincere interest in sh helping shape its future. 5 years later, our belief in what this site can become has never wavered. Since then, we
kept coming back to one simple question. What does North Miami Beach deserve? Every decision we made had to answer that very question. We listened to city staff. We heard our residents. We honored the history of the ancient Spanish monastery. We embraced the site's tennis heritage and challenged
ourselves to go far beyond the minimum requirements. Tonight, we're not simply presenting a development proposal. We're presenting a vision for what North Miami Beach can become. A destination. A park that celebrates this community, preserves meaningful green space, inspires recreation,
supports local businesses, and creates a place where families gather, neighbors connect, and memories are made for generations. We wanted to create the kind of place to make someone passing by stop and say, "That's a park I want to visit, and that's a city I want to call home." This vision is bold, but it's grounded
in experience. For [snorts] decades, Mack and Companies has invested in North Miami Beach because we believe in this community. Our reputation has been built on one simple pris principle. When we make a commitment, we deliver. If we're fortunate enough to earn your trust, we'll bring that same commitment, accountability, and discipline execution
to this project. Together, and I do mean that, together, we have an opportunity to create something that becomes part of North Miami Beach's identity. A place this commission, this community, and our team can look back on with pride and say, "We created something truly very special." Tonight, we hope you'll see
not only what we're proposing, but why we believe no one is better prepared to bring this vision to life. To our ascending city staff, I want to thank you for your professionalism and your dedication. And to you, our elected officials, I always want to thank you for your continued service to our community. Now, it's my pleasure to our
team as they princip the vision. >> Well, you got the best of me. And now, it's my pleasure, excuse me, to intro introduce our team. Thank you very much. introduce the team.
>> Yeah, I'm just fixing the video. >> Thank you. >> First and foremost, I'd like to welcome ODP Gad Marquez, the principal of the firm. >> Pleasure to meet you. Thank you so much for the time. Um, just to be brief. I know time is of the essence. Um, I wanted to be able to basically go
through the project. Uh we we broke down the project into a series of zones which I'll quickly highlight here. Uh I have my counterparts Haime and and um uh EDSA as well Leo uh who's going to be able to kind of talk about some of the other things that that we uh incorporated into
the park itself. Uh now with that being said uh zone one there's broken into four zones and in zone one u what we have here is an elevated park. Uh it's a series of kiosk of these retail hubs that allow for the community and food and beverage to be able to come and
interact with the park. Uh at the heart of zone one is going to be uh a large um performance piaza uh that allows uh for um local uh talent uh community offerings and and whatnot. Uh in zone
two uh we also have the uh sports area, the pro shop along with the courts which I I'm going to bring in Haimemed really quickly to be able to talk about uh the the details that are are are are of that that zone too. Um and uh apologies a
little nervous here. Sorry if you could come and jump in. >> Sure. >> Thank you. Sorry Mayo with uh H&M Architecture. We've designed many of these facilities in South Florida. um threetory, single story. And what really separates this facility from those and
from any other similar recreational facilities is the entire park setting obviously that you're involved here. All the all the parking is below. It kind of takes advantage of the entire site being one giant park. All the parking is hidden below really separating the pedestrian and the vehicle um
connectivity throughout. And the entrance of of the two main buildings which kind of flank the the big entrance plaza is houses the over 20 over 20 courts
racket courts including the uh outdoor racket courts. It's kind of also tiered as long as we're going with the with the levels. It's also got a a big entrance canopy that kind of looks down on the on the uh viewing lawn that's that's facing all the courts.
Taking advantage of using these buildings to kind of give us a buffer between, you know, the main right of way and and the railroad tracks and really opening up onto the other side of of the open park concept that's been created
here on a on a second level. And again to maximize the use of the property, we we're done multi-level uh sports facilities here with these racket courts on on the first, second, and third and and integrating that recreational
facility with all the amenities that this has to offer, whether it's, you know, the spas. I'm sorry. Let me get in here real quick. You know, it's it's spas, pro shop, juice bar, restaurant, grab-and- go, food and drinks, rooftop terrace, locker rooms. There's party
rooms, multi-purpose rooms available for rental, workout, and warm-up areas, as well as co-working areas. So, you can kind of come here and spend the entire day here for all different types of of uses for any age. There's a little bit of something here for everyone. Uh,
regardless of your sports or or your age. And with that, I will pass it along to Okay. >> So, I could just touch on this just for a second. There's a few elements we have that I think are important to look at, and I would encourage your specific questions at the end. So, what you're looking at right now is we've created a
multi-level uh park structure, but we made sure to make sure that the green space preserved the park intention of what we have there. So, when the question is how many parking spaces do we have, we have 237 parking spaces. You just can't see them because what we did wanted to make sure
is we wanted to make sure that the park remained a park. And to do that, um, and I'll try and get to the proper slide. There's the entrance to the garage. It's innovative because every time we designed a project, there was a five-story parking structure and you lost the park feel. So what do we have?
We have food and beverage, we have fitness, we have entertainment, we have paddle, we have tennis, we have all those elements incorporated into the park on the 10acre site and we put that together in such a in such a fashion whereby we also incorporated the dog park, picnic areas and we met with the Spanish monastery and we said what is it
that you're looking for? And they said they needed more parking. We gave them more parking. The second thing they were looking for was a buffer. They wanted to be treated as a religious institution and be respected that way. They wanted to have their own private space. So we made sure that we had we created I believe it's 250 ft of separation
between ourselves from our structure to their structure. So we perver we we we preserve their their space. But I think one of the most dramatic phys u elements of the design really if you take a look we've incorporated the green space also on the roofs of the buildings. We saw this done in North Carolina. It was a
dramatic change. It preserved the green space. It preserves the park. We make sure the structures are see-through. They're glass. You see, this is fully baked. This is designed. This is my architecture team. [clears throat] This isn't a concept. We're not talking about things we think we can do. We know what we can do here. Now, take it a step
further. We also made sure that we're jogging paths and walking paths throughout the entire structure, the entire park. But take a look at this for just a second. We also created subtle grade increases. These are not dramatic grade increases. They're subtle. So we made sure that we that people could come handicapped people could come enjoy the
park, not struggle to get through the park, enjoy the entire place, but also create different vignettes at these different levels they came to, but we also made sure that we created walking paths that brought the whole piece together and and and we got some of that design actually from the Spanish, which is actually very funny. If we can go a
step further, our we have indoor park paddle and we have indoor indoor tennis and outdoor tennis. We did that by making flex spaces inside the structures. Our structures are incorporated three stories high but of those three stories there there's two levels of parking of of playing and entertainment because you need the
height in order each level. So we looked at that and that's what I'm saying this is our design team. I'm a developer but we bring his design team to make sure it works together. We also incorporated rooftop fitness on top of the structures in particular on top of one of the uh paddle indoor paddle courts. One more
one more slide if you don't mind. >> One more slide just the time. >> Thank you. So lastly, the only thing I'd like to touch on very quickly is that's where the dog park is, that's where the picnic areas are, and there are subtle locations where elevators will take you up to each individual area. I want to thank you all for your time and thank
you very much. >> Well, no. Um, before you start, um, Commissioner Smucker has she has >> Thank you. Um, appreciate it. Um, so to the manager, did we on on the things that we wanted to see, did we ever ask
for raetball courts? >> Yes, >> we did. And and are you providing >> we have raet ball, we have paddle, we have pickle lift tennis. We had limited number of racket ball. We we took a look at what worked what what is the current movement in tennis and raetball sports. And so that's how we we that's how we came up with our mix.
>> Uh we made sure that there's an outdoor tennis center that has what is really interesting. We also created integrated seating in this structure because we have these great changes. But to answer uh Commissioner Smith's question, where's our where's our water feature which is our we also have a kids innovation center built into the park. I
think it's 20,000 square feet. Why do we do that? Because K parks are for children. They're for families. So we have a kids innovation center for after school activities. And in front of that kids innovation center, it's not a water feature. It's a splash pad, but it's also a very large splash pad. And if you take a look, that is actually coming
from the first level of the parking structure. So this is a fully designed park. This is not a concept that, you know, we're talking about things that are going to be moving and hopefully will come to be. >> I thank you. >> My pleasure. And >> and also to the manager, um are we
voting on this tonight? >> Uh I think we're supposed to be ranking right >> through the through the mayor to Commissioner Smuckler. I know you won't be voting on um actually voting in tonight. We'll have you rank >> uh the concepts u first to the fourth
and and then we'll be uh working with the the >> All right. So, um, as I mentioned before, I'm going to be leaving soon, and I do want the the other two, um, um, um, candidates. Um, I will be watching
this online or another day on, um, on our website. So, um, it's not like I don't care. I am interested in watching it. And also, and thank you for bringing up the parking. And if the other two can also bring up the parking as well, Sure. >> I would appreciate it. So, ours is 186
parking spaces in the garage and 51 parallel spaces around the entire site. >> Okay. And and you know, I was looking at the at the book here and everything is beautiful. All four of them are beautiful. I'm just it's so beautiful that it looks almost like a country club type of
>> place. And that's what I'm concerned about because as as Commissioner Smith had alluded to the um prior to the first um candidate. I'm I'm concerned about um the residents having um that the costs are too high for the residents or if
there is even going to be cost to the residents. I mean I think we really need to to make sure that our residents are treated um >> better than fairly. >> Our concept was to have so for we don't intend to charge people to use the park. We also intend to encourage local
contractors to be able to construct this project. Taking a step further, um I can assure you of one thing. We looked at several different parks and one of them we looked at was Bryant Park in New York. They rely on corporate sponsorships. They also provide three months of free rent to some of the tenants that have kiosks so they can
they can incubate their businesses. And Bank of America in particular sponsors that. So we looked at this globally. As I said, we've been talking about this park for 5 years. So, we had a bit of a jumps head head start on a lot of other people because we talked about this a long time ago. We did redesign it several times because as the more we
looked at it, the more we wanted to make it better. But there's no question that this is a park for the residents of city North Miami Beach. But taking a step further, I think with the Bright Line Train and the traffic that we now have around us, it's about time that other cities recognize that the city of North Miami Beach has a very compelling
argument. We have a very compelling argument. We're not a stepchild to any other city and we deserve a park like this. And that's my perspective. My perspective is we deserve a park like this. And you want the developer that's going to shoot for the stars and is going to make it happen. That's my job. That's my job.
>> Thank you. >> And I encourage as many questions you have and we'll do our best to answer them as correctly and succinctly as we possibly can. >> I'll start off Commissioner Turnoff. >> On the plan, I see only four tennis courts. Am I wrong?
>> Outdoor. I think we have four tennis courts. We left flex space inside the inside the covered area for additional tennis courts. The truth of the matter is that the tennis courts that we did traffic counts at this at the Arthur Snider tennis center right now. The numbers that and we did that business flare did for us. The numbers are
deplorable. They're terrible. Um there's heavy use in the early mornings and late in the evenings, but the middle of the day it's a ghost town. Um, so we created in our indoor spaces with with Haime's team, our indoor spaces are made to be flexible as well because I think one of the things that hurts the tennis usage
is frankly the temperature. But there's no question there's been a move away from tennis and to other racket sports. So we wanted to be sensitive to those other racket sports but we also wanted to make sure that we created something that was busy morning, noon, evening the whole. So we created we created kiosk
that have food and beverage and other uses entertainment and an incredible amphitheater that we created in inside the structure of the use which we can show you which I think is outstanding. We could put tents over it and cover it so it could be covered because I think we all know what the heat is like here.
But we wanted to give people as many reasons to go there for other than tennis. So with the tennis, the fitness, CrossFit on the roof, we're fitness focused recreational facility that is supported by food and entertainment because we recognize that f I want to we want to create a park that families can
go to, the kids can go play in the park and the parents can hide and eat and enjoy themselves. >> Thank you. >> Sure, Sue. >> No. >> All right. Thank you. Thank you so much for your presentation. >> My pleasure. Thank you for the
opportunity. I >> I will say that this is beautiful. >> Thank you. >> That's that's the only that's the first word that comes to mind. Uh and you know what what I do like about when you're talking about accessibility, I I think
accessibility is really to me at least the flow of of of the park, right? So, it's me driving down the street and saying to myself, can I pull up in here and then take my dog out the car and literally just start enjoying the park? I don't have to. There's no barriers or
buffers between my being on the main road and enjoying the actual facility. Like right now, if I wanted to go to that park, I literally pull up, get out of my car, and my dog is playing fetch immediately. Right. >> Right. >> So, I think that's partly what what's
important about accessibility is the flow. um which I I like here and you're maximizing you know the space with the parking and everything like that. Um one of the things that I can say I appreciate about this is you know is when we think about education in our
community when we think about you know business incubators in our community um and what North Miami Beach is about I I'm seeing these flex spaces are allowing for that to happen. So if we have summer camp,
>> okay, well these kids can go there and there can be STEM projects and things that they can participate in. >> That is our plan. >> Okay. Um so you know that's I'm seeing that I'm I'm seeing campus. I'm seeing everything that um really um is is um is
attractive about this project. >> Thank you. Um, what I will say is that I think that their flagship events that bring people to spaces that are not necessarily living within like a
mile of that particular uh >> uh location, right? And so I think that's something also to be considered is that if someone is living in Eastern Shores or if someone is living in um Highland Village or if someone is living in uh Ulita, what's going to what's
going to bring them to that location as residents? And then aside from that, what's going to let flagship organizations know that, hey, you know what, if we do have an artist that perhaps is not a um um
is it Adele? is not an Adele. Is that the name? Um yeah, Adele. >> Adele is is a major major star. Yeah. >> You know, but um or is not uh >> is she coming? >> No, what I'm saying is you see she's she's always doing that. [snorts and laughter]
>> She wants Taylor Swift. >> She wants Taylor Swift. But if it's not like that level, but you know, there are certain artists that can attract a thousand or 2,000 people that this location may be that for them. So what is that anchor? What What are >> So I can I can address that real quick. So I can tell you the one thing that we
did because we recognize the diversity of North Miami Beach, which has been a struggle for North Miami Beach for a long time, but there's diversity in North Miami Beach. And what I can tell you we intend to do is different cultural events in our city at the park, makers markets, all different types of events that we intend to have, it's incorporated in the book that have you
have in front of you. And I can tell you that as far as attracting the right people to come to these park, build it. Build it because if you build it, we have the demographics. I understand some things about this property that most people will never learn because for a long time I own the property adjacent
and now that we're renting out the prop the commercial space at Aura, we know what the tenants we're getting. We're bringing tenants out of Wimwin. We're bringing tenants out of Coconut Grove. We're bringing tenants to North Miami Beach that never would have come to North Miami Beach. One of them one of them is going to be the subject of a
Netflix documentary and their flagship location is at Aura. Can I say I'm responsible for that? Absolutely not. Cuz if this city commission had not supported me the way it did, there would be no aura. But if we build it, they will come. But you have to build it right. [snorts] You have to reach higher
than you should. And once you do that, and if you have confidence in the place where you intend to do it and the commitment to get it done, you can make it happen. Period. >> Well, I I I definitely appreciate that. Um and and I'm not going to I'm not going to compare or contrast presenters
at this point. um you know um but but there were comments made about um you know the ability to bring top names to come and practice on particular courts. >> We have that opportunity. We've met with several of those people as well and they're available to anybody that's awarded the project as well. >> So that's a good thing, Mr. Mack and
that we can bring those names. But what I will say is I'm looking at Hard Rock. Right. Right. And I'm saying to myself with respect to our our sister city, um the accessibility of of um Miami open to the average
resident of um Miami Gardens, right? So that's kind of where I'm located. How do you There has to be a balance. I'm not saying you answer that question right now, but what I'm saying is there has to be a balance, right? It uh um we want we want a Miami open, quote unquote, right? or um as an example, for lack of a
better term, but at the same time, I don't want my residents to just drive by and hear cheers. I want them to be able to walk in there and purchase something and enjoy it, not because they're part of a program or part of a special group that gets to, you know, have an experience, but because it's really
accessible to the residents. >> Absolutely. I can tell you that. I want the people that are driving by in the Brightland and go, "What's that?" You know, all of a sudden you have to play to your traffic. We have accessibility and visibility from Biscane Boulevard. We have accessibility and visibility at Dixie Highway and we have people that are driving by the Bright Line every day. I worked with Shirley Gibson in the
city of Miami Gardens. And that woman was unbelievable. She was unbelievable. She she she encouraged me to go get a commercial tenant that she couldn't get in her city because of the census. And she said, "But I deserve it." And she was working at that time in that city out of a strip center. And look at what they have today. Look what North Miami's
accomplished. What they've done in Alita. I mean, I'm just recognizing what I think. And do I think we can do it? Do we have the right leadership? We do have the right leadership. Do we have the right people and the right team? Yes, we do. Do we have the right property? We do. But we have to work together. It's very simple. And I encourage as many
questions you have because I can give you exact answers to to to the extent that we have them because we have designed this project. Is there flexibility? Of course there's flexibility in it. Do we want to be sensitive? But do we listen to our residents? We spent a considerable amount of time reviewing the surveys and considerable amount of time reviewing
everything that was opportunities that were presented to us. We met all the must-haves and the wants. We didn't just hit the must haves. Every single one that was something that was requested, we hit. I could have answered the reason you can't go on the water because we tried to do the water. Our first iteration, as you may recall, had water
usage. We took it out because of South Florida water. Does that mean you can't get there? Sure, you can get there, but you got to go meet with them. You have to beg them. You have to borrow them. You have to give them something. And eventually, hopefully, you can get there. At least a at least some kind of a footprint overlooking the area. We have in our plan a walking path that
goes behind the Spanish monastery. We didn't show it yet because you know what? Although we've spoken in a Spanish monastery and they were we were told that they have no problem with it until we have something hard and fast that I can present with confidence. Can I tell you I can get the name player? Absolutely I can get the name player if we build it. But I'm never going to come
here and overpromise and underdeliver. Period. >> Well, Mr. Mac and I see you were kind enough to give us a timeline which means the first quarter of 2028 is a vision. >> Yes. >> Um the questions I asked to the first
person obviously don't no longer apply because the name discounts for residents all those things will come into play after we pick the one that is going to
be our vision. What I find and um Commissioner Shernoff is much more into whether you need more tennis courts or less tennis courts, but in my limited amount of recreational,
>> but I see people are playing paddle ball and they're playing pickle ball and they're >> they've they also still play tennis, but it's not as much as the young people that are playing tennis. I know uh my son is up in his mountain house. So when you go there there are all the courts
but there they have to wait for pickle ball. They have to wait in line. What's used is the gym even though you have to get in your car and your go-karts to get there. So the facility and what you've done with
layering it I think is phenomenal. Um, you don't mention that there's a project next door that has parking that's also municipal parking for North Miami Beach. >> I don't mention that. It's not subject to this conversation. >> There are another 28 or 30 which is next
door. >> Correct. >> So, and when there's going to be big events, there might have to be hired people that will have to run [clears throat] back and forth and park. I mean, >> we have we have the facilities built into the project. We also talked about doing a substation for the police
department in this project. This is stuff that we've looked at because we spent a considerable amount of time. We traveled, my team traveled to New York. We spent time at Bryant Park. We pulled their business plan, not just their current business plan, but when they first built the place that was a potter's farm. So, I can tell you that we understand what makes park what makes
parks work when they're P3s. Um, and I and I can assure you that we've looked at all I will take a second just to show you when the opportunity comes out. I encourage you to look at the overlook of the tennis. But we have another shot of from the the part that >> what what I can say is you have a very
strong vested interest that is something out of this world. >> I have a I have a very strong vested interest but I also have been afforded the opportunity to understand what works because I for 10 for 15 years I owned the property next door and the best lesson is struggle a little bit and I
can assure you I struggled quite a bit over there. So with all due respect, you know, we have fantastic tenants of what we have at OR right now. We're 85% pre-leased and you know, everybody talks about Aventur, Aventur this, and Avur that. Well, I'm 85% pre-leased and
Aventur projects are struggling. So I can assure you one thing, we just need to bring the right project and the right product to our city. This is our city. We're as good as any other city, if not better. And I believe if we do that, we can we can achieve great success. But we'll do that together. That's what
makes us the best is when we work together. >> I happen to believe if you build it, they'll come. I happen to also believe that the marketing of it because of our location, you know, word of mouth will travel. Aventur does all their free space with their free spaces with
highrises. I mean, they have >> some of their courts in the parking lot of the shopping center. >> Correct. So, you know, it it the name has to be important as far as I'm concerned. And I
think that residents have to have a some kind of discount someday, some way. >> That's not a problem. I think that should happen. Florida residents get an Orlando access. >> I think everybody that presents will say see the same. But these aren't questions for you today. The most important thing
is the parking, the facilities for the children for to make sure that while the parents are playing, maybe the children have that playground, the parents play, they get hot, they have a picnic area, they have plenty places to buy the food.
I mean, the concept is beautiful. So, >> thank you. >> So, was the one ahead of you? I think there's no wrong. I don't think there's a wrong. I think that the the the main thing is to get it a shovel in the ground and get it started. >> Couldn't agree with you more. I I can tell you that, you know, everybody does
what they do for a living for their own reasons. We leave marks and when we develop property, we build relationships. I'm exceptionally proud of Aura because it it changed the area. It's we couldn't have done this without Aura. And when you and I talked about Aura in the beginning, there was no there were no projects on Dixie Highway.
There was no such thing as a comprehensive plan amendment. We talked about a comprehensive plan amendment because all you could do on Texas highway were two-story buildings at that time and now we're waiting for the county to finally do their job and widen the road and add the park the additional parking they plan on adding. But we have
a vigorous area in the Dixie Highway quarter that's changed the landscape and we haven't seen the best of it yet. It's only going to get better. >> And how many stories is your building that you're building? >> Three. >> And the parking is some under >> 186 under 185 or 186 underground and another 51 on the ground. And the truth
is if whoever's get awarded if to have more whatever whether it's space for classrooms or space for conference rooms >> I mean as long as the concept is there and the cost makes sense to whoever
whoever is the developer there's a lot more that can be done I mean the concept is the important thing and I recognize that now even though I studied this at home I'll save my question. >> Thank you. We have a 20,000 foot in kids innovation center and we have we have built the amphitheater in such a
creative manner that we talked about tenting it. We talked about putting a roof on it. We talked about doing some other things with it. But what's really creative about it is that it's the way it's constructed. >> It's built into the project. And when you look at the tennis center and the overlook in the tennis center, what's dynamic about it, Jay, is excuse me,
Commissioner Cherov, what's dynamic about it is not just the fact that we have tennis courts, but it's the way we address them. Do we have seating around the tennis courts? Yes, we do. Do we have 3,000 seats? Absolutely not. Cuz they she can't park 3,000 cars. So, we have the we have the we have enough parking to park what we have, but
it's so dramatically well done because when you start with a design team like ODP, you get the world's largest landscape design company, EDSA, you get H&M that was awarded three different projects that were P3s in Bokeh, one of which was in Bokeh, and say, "Listen, I need your help on this one." And you
hand them the car keys, say, "Drive with me together." And we do it as a group. You end up with some great things. I'm a sponsor, but I'm a critical sponsor. >> Well, I also appreciate the fact that you have given I can't find it now. How
many square foot goes to how many square foot 35,000 square foot went to one thing and to the and maybe 12,000 square foot went to tennis courts. >> Correct. >> But we get a visual of exactly what you're planning, what you're thinking here. So I appreciate that from
>> if I could add one other thing because I think it's an important question is we looked at how much concrete coverage was on is on the current site and we said let's not let's not impact this and make it worse. So that's why the green space is handled the way it's handled. We limited our concrete coverage to exactly
what's currently on the site. >> That was my job. >> You okay? Oh, my pleasure. >> Um, I I love the concept of your um of your project. >> Thank you. >> I do have a couple questions and pardon my ignorance, madame procurement
director. Does our RFP RFQ require that the developer actually continues to manage the property? >> Um, that is a part of the financial proposal. Mhm. >> Um how it's managed um how we go into
the next the comprehensive agreement over time. So that that's not a requirement. So to answer your question answer it is not a requirement. It is something that will be discussed and negotiated in the next phase. >> Okay. Did you want to add >> my goal would be frankly we have management teams that manage things
better than we manage them but we still remain involved in the business model. >> Okay. We we also set aside areas for um equipment that's required in the site. So this is not something we didn't look at. We've looked at how are we going to manage it? How do we manage it? Where do we put the I'd like to put a police
substation on the property occasionally. So we looked at it globally and we do believe that management company would do the right job managing the property under our tutelage. >> If you put a police substation, will you be paying the police? >> I look that's that's another thing we'll talk about. I'm not stuck on a police substation, but I know there's been
conversation about safety in the park. We want to encourage safety in the park. >> That's what I I mean that's what I was thinking of like wow that's a that's a lot. So um >> well we have the space available. So when I say a substation I mean we have dedicated space if we want to use it. >> I see. Okay. >> Forgive me if I use if I use lingo
that's outside the box. I apologize. >> No it's okay. Um this is good. So I I'm hearing that there was 186 parking spaces and then another Did you say underground? Did I hear that correct? >> So yes there's 100. You want to jump? There's 206 and 186.
>> Yes. Sorry. So, so the idea of the underground is because the the park itself becomes elevated. So, it's just the the idea of an underground parking, but it's truly at grade. >> It's at grade. >> Correct. So, coming off Dixie, you'd be able to come uh into the parking garage straight in. Correct.
>> It's on grade just we elevated the deck above it. So, the parking is on grade and then in addition to the 186, we have 51 parallel spots around the site. >> Yeah. No, that's what I absolutely love is the different levels that you have. It's really great. Thank you very much. >> Space that you put on top. And actually, you know, I >> we had one more floor of parking. We
took it out because we hoped we didn't need it, but we have the flexibility. If we wanted to put it back in, we could do it because we left the height. >> I'm sorry. Go ahead. >> And I was going to say that I am concerned also like I think having clay courts is great. I don't know who plays on them because I've never played on clay courts. I can't play tennis because
I have tennis elbow. So, it's like, you know, I'm looking for badminton. But anyway, [laughter] >> that's why paddle so I'm just joking around. Listen, I just think that like um the the the things that are costing residents money, which are, you know,
rentals of courts and whatnot, it looks like there's a lot of spaces that are accessible to the residents in general. Like a lot of parks, a lot of kid things, you know what I mean? Like you see these I think that elevating the quality of life for North Miami Beach, I think is like you said, if we build it,
they will come. Yeah, >> I don't see anybody who doesn't want to go to Aventura Mall. [snorts] You know what I mean? Oh, I don't want to go Aventur Mall. It's too fancy. Even if I'm just going to walk there and buy nothing, I would love to go to Aventura Mall. But that's just me. Um, so what
I'm thinking of is I really like how you bring this um, you know, the elevated level of quality of life for our residents. I think that if it's accessible to them and you know, when we look at the price points and they all make sense, like that was very good. And I like how there's a lot of green when
you look, you know, I mean, wish I had a drone. I could see I could see a lot of green, which is wonderful. And um looks like a lot of places that like, you know, you can go hang out, read a book. >> That's what that was the plan was. That's why we have the picnic areas that
people can rent uh with the we have dedicated picnic areas that are covered. And let me go on the record and say that I think you both are absolutely correct. I think there should be a two-tiered system as far as if you're a resident of the city of North Miami Beach, there should be a cost reduction. Period. >> All right, my questions are I'm done.
Thank you, >> Commissioner Jean. >> Everybody's giving me >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. [laughter] Um, thank you for this great presentation. Um the question that I have is um I think this piggybacking on Commissioner Sue's point from early from the previous
presentation. Um is there potential for any competition size area within the designs? >> I'm sorry I didn't hear >> Commissioner Jean you broke up. Could
you please repeat that question >> about competition? >> Yeah. um competitions sized um areas. So for example, if there were a tour tournament coming to the city and wanting to use any particular space to
um create that sort of uh area, would would this particular design lend to that? >> Uh yes, absolutely. The design of this kind of makes it flexible for all different types of racket sports whether it's indoor or outdoor for for the
pickle uh tennis obviously you know the idea would be that it would be all tennis tournament or an all pickle ball tournament and all padell tournament but yeah all the interior and exterior spaces are flexible to be able to accommodate uh pretty nice size tournaments and and one of the outdoor
courts would probably be more of the central court where you could fit most of the uh the spectator seating around it. There's not only spectator seating on the open lawn, but the large overhang that kind of creates the uh the uh the entrance to the sports buildings as well
as um rooftop rooftop terraces. >> Thank you. And then the second question is as it relates to sponsors, I know you mentioned Bank of America. Um do you guys have any other contacts within the raet ball, >> you know, sphere of that you guys would
want to partner with? Yes, we >> we have relationships with already. >> We've spoken to three. All are well known. Uh we we keep that to the vest until such time as we're ready to execute and we're not ready to execute. We haven't been selected for the pro this our project hasn't been selected. Commissioner Jean, if I could direct your attention, I hope you can see the
screen. That gives you an idea of the one of the main of the two tennis courts, the overlooks and also gives you an idea of the way the stadium seating in integrated around it. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> Um, I'll be quick because I have a hard stop at 8:30 and if I leave we're going
to lose quorum apparently, but we have to hear all the >> I'll do I'll do my best to answer quickly as well. >> He already asked um the two questions and I I and correct me if I'm wrong either from staff or
what have you. Um the one one thing that we were missing in North Miami Beach and I don't know if this is you can still incorporate into this project and I didn't get a chance to mention this to the last presenter is some type of hotel component and I was and I didn't know if that was even considered or that could
be considered. >> So our original intention was to have a hotel and we were told that given the the the the zoning requirements a hotel could not be added. We originally had I love the concept of the hotel with a grab and go to support. As we all know, the Spanish monastery is the number one
uh used venue for kinetas and weddings, especially photos, but they don't have space really indoor space. So, I wanted to have a my original goal was to have a grab a hotel with a grab-and-go component, not to compete with them. That's why I wanted to be grabband go, but to have a room for people to actually go and enjoy the wedding
festivities or the kinsier festivities after they enjoy the Spanish monastery. We were told because of the current zoning requirements, we couldn't accommodate it. >> Okay. >> Well, I know that we're working on on a comp plan. I know that that's something that we're still working on. I I just like I said, I
>> I love the concept. We worked on it. We were there with you. >> No, no. I I know right now like whatever we decide, we're we're pretty much deciding on who would be the developer. And yes, and what dream they can come up. We're not here to dissect. I get that. >> We love our dream. But I just for me a hotel has always been something. We don't have any hotels in the city
properly. It's crazy. Not one. >> And that's something >> we were supposed to get one but they changed the use. >> They changed their mind. They changed uses. I I do like the aspect of the fact that similar to how the Perez Museum you guys have had this >> at level type of garage parking. That's the that's the closest comparison I can
have. I know the New York location as well. >> Um I do like the design. I know it's a family affair. I know you can see Jody back there as well. Um, but you know, I I I like the concept. I just would like a little bit more of um
uh more of a more an attraction grabber like an a hotel. That's just me. Other than that, I the the concept looks beautiful. Prior prior presentation looks beautiful and I just wanted to just two cents. Thank you. >> We congratulate everybody that's that we're competing with. We wish them the best of luck, but I encourage you in the
strongest sense to select us and then we'll go ahead and get those whatever we can bring together. We'll bring it together collectively because in my concept we have to work together. If we work together we're going to accomplish some wonderful things. Thank you. >> Thank you mayor. >> Um next is what's the
oh civility that we have to give. It's NB NB >> NB academy. Yes. Madam clerk we can settle the timer. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for uh letting us
present our design. Uh ours is a little different. Staying more in staying more in sync with what's there, keeping a lot of what's there, adding to it, and uh creating a a viable dynamic rack export environment, education environment,
culture environment. U my name is Greg Brunick. I'm with the North Miami Beach Academy. Javier Font Bayar Font Architecture Firm is the ones that put together the design you're looking at tonight. The designs modern, current, relevant to
the community surrounding area. The facility that we're recommending accommodates high volume use, flexible spaces, diversified programming, multiple revenue streams for supporting growth, and oh, I'm sorry. Where's the
Here we go. That's fine. I just want to be >> Where is it? Oh, right here. [clears throat] Yeah. Okay. Sorry. [snorts] Let me just get to the right. Little glitch there.
Okay. basically supporting growth u and diversified programming, multiple revenue streams, viable, sustainable park longtime into the future. The result, vibrant, exciting place for junior, adult, family, and professional
uh participants. Um a a community experience that everybody can uh enjoy. Ultimately, the landmark property driving it'll ultimately be driving the North Miami Beach brand locally, regionally, nationally, and
internationally, transitioning it to an economic contributor, enabling the city to realize the true value of the important important asset. Um, the project integrates modern design with community priorities featuring
state-of-the-art community center, multiple racket sports, fitness facilities, indoor outdoor food and beverage experience positions uh as an entertainment event venue, full service dog park, children's children's
playground. [snorts] This is uh basically what we're recommending as a redesign of the facility. Uh it keeps and and keeps and renovates the existing 12 and six hard courts with new fencing, walkways,
shaded areas, landscaping. It adds six pedel and six pickle ball courts with bleacher seating viewing areas throughout. It also contemplates covering the hard courts, the pickle ball area and the and the paddle courts
making for an ideal playing environment. The covered court areas also can be flexible adding other sports and and growth into other sport areas and bringing other type of activities to the to the property. All the courts are lighted supporting 14 to 16 hour daily
operations. There's an addition of stadium court that contributes to the event agenda plan for the property. We we feel the event opportunity here is significant in sports and music well beyond the the racket sports with the
paddle ball and the pickle ball and the tennis events. You know, that's one type of event, but when you look at the community center, um it's pretty interesting what can what can happen there. So the stadium court will be an integral part of an event agenda. Also I
have relationships in the music industry, deep relationships in the sport industry. In 1978 to 2009 I built the IMGmies from 10 acres to 500 acres. 900 full-time students from a 100
nations around the around the world. It was basically uh real estate development. It was sport development. it was education. So our business is all about sports and education and the
integration of it. Uh so there's also in this on this site you have a new community center. That community center is going to host the the uh the restaurant, rooftop dining, uh outdoor
indoor fitness facilities on the bottom floor, control desks on the bottom floor, and uh it also is going to have hospitality area on the I don't know where the pointer is here on this, but it'll have a hospitality area also incorporated into that building. Then
there's a learning uh environment that um basically a learning enrichment center to deliver sports I mean to deliver arts, music, STEM, all kinds of educational programs for junior adult
professional. It's available on a daily uh it's available on a daily weekly basis um and seasonal basis. Uh in addition, we'll also have educational academy programs that um will be
operating within that um within that area. So the the uh hang on one second. So the um the uh also design adds additional
parking. Uh we've added additional parking on the north side of the property. We have 120 spaces, 110 to 120 spaces designed into the site. Um, and from uh from the west parking lot, there's four points of entry straight
into the learning center. And then the racket sports and the the the patrons that'll be doing uh the restaurant and the fitness will still follow down the same pathways to the to the check-in and control desk. Those that park on the
north parking lot will still go in between the two uh the two clay courts. uh two banks of clay courts that uh we've kept there. Um the facility again set up for growth uh
can be accommodations for additional sport offerings. 3v3 soccer. The two banks of courts under the indoor under the indoor covered courts, you can do 3v3 soccer, basketball, volleyball, 5v5 uh soccer as well as basketball,
volleyball. Um, and we can also bring in uh programs. I started the combine training for the NFL recruits going at the the NCAA recruits going in at the NFL on an annual basis, two-month stays.
we'd have 20 to 30 um new recruits coming to do performance training. I also brought soccer teams from international soccer teams, South America, from Europe as well as all the
MLS teams. I have a a big rolodex of contacts to deliver those types of stays. Those are people that come stay will participate groups of 60 uh 60 coaches, players and participate for 10day stays. Um we'll be running a
full-time academy which we already have. We've been operating at the park since 2017. Uh during COVID we went to a month-to-month basis. So there's nothing we can do about the park from then to where we are now. Um uh so we've been
waiting for this moment to see if we can carry uh see if we can get to the to the private public partnership and carry this park forward. It's got a lot of history. It still should remain as a racket sports facility.
It's got, like I said, the 12 12 clay courts, the six hard courts, the six pedel and and six pickle ball courts, you know, which will be covered and ideal playing environment, making for, you know, an unbelievable facility. It's
fully accessible to everyone uh in the area. Um there was u there was in the RFP collateral that suggests that accommodations could be built if they're incidental to the programming. I don't know if that's a fact or not. We've
asked we we hadn't received uh any response for that. Um here's the 3D here's the 3D 3D view of the redesign. Yeah. of the redesign to give you a feel
of what what we see for the site. Um it's the design features balanced functional zones, racket sport as as well as the community center. The well-designed circulation connectivity between all amenities. The design
address addresses multi-generational needs with youth, adult, family, and uh senior friendly areas. It provides accessible recreation, inclusive gathering spaces, programming that support health, wellness, education, cultural engagement, sustainable
features include solar canopies, storm water management, native landscape, Florida green building coalition certification, public transport, ensuring long-term environmental responsibility. It contemplates
uh and complements the broad uh range of programs delivered on rental membership, tuition, food and beverage purchase basis. All the services can be bought on a daily, weekly, seasonal uh and yearly. The
operations will have uh benefit of multi-tered volume, premium volume and premium based pricing making the offering accessible and affordable to everyone. uh technology be uh integrated throughout and um with cloud-based
operating systems, all the latest uh technology that's out there for operating uh and connecting streamlining bookings, communication with the fellow patrons and participants and uh interaction with coaches, communities
and the and the community center staff complemented by smart building systems. C campuswide Wi-Fi AV ready facilities and C and the complex will deliver both convenience and innovation. >> Any final thoughts because the >> time
>> time >> yes you you want to wrap give a final thought or >> Yeah. Okay. So if you want to wrap it up we can uh leave it for questions and thoughts. >> We'll start here and then Commissioner Smith and I'll go down. Show me the
facility. In the facility where you have playgrounds or splash pools or picnic areas, what do you have for families? >> Yeah, right there. >> No, the one before. >> The one before.
>> The one before. >> Page six. >> Where's the point? All right. But where's the pointer? Okay, here we go. >> So, um, the playgrounds are right here to the in the bottom uh west corner of
the of the property. If you walk in, the learning and enrichment center is here. Uh, the the if I go to the right, the dog park is off to the right the back of the property with 2,000 square foot buildings of full services for the dog.
uh for the dog daycare. Um you're also got the u the rooftop restaurant here. You've got the uh hospitality in this in this section of the property. And you know, it's the the landscaping uh
covered areas, relaxation areas all throughout. Um, so this is the basically the uh the the the new footprint of the property >> and the parking is outside. >> Well, we added to the parking here. So,
the combination of this parking and this parking's uh 110 to 120 spaces. >> So, this is different. That's exactly what you said. It's more of a overhaul of what's existing there plus plus. >> Yeah. And our and our you know our
intention was to keep it operational as we go through the trans go through the transition and the renovation and working on the the hard courts, the clay courts to pedel and the pickle ball courts initially as well as the north parking and then from from uh from there
go into the community center and then do the dog park and the stadium as as the last component. >> And the dark part's going to have overnight facilities if people want. It's going to have dog daycare. We we've uh thought about overnight facilities. I'm not sure whether we would do that or
not, but that's an opportunity. Uh I think one of the things when you look at when you look at this site and the different programs that are here, if you were able to put which could be done over the parking facilities and if you could add more
parking uh in the in the parking located, you this is going to be an attraction. You're going to have athletes coming from all over the world. You're going to have athletes coming regionally, you know, nationally as well as uh locally. And you if you look at
pickle ball, the people travel to pickle ball all over the country, all over the world and participate in pickle ball. Um as well as so professional soccer teams and professional athletes as I mentioned. Uh so we have an I have an expertise in sport in performance and
training and been at it for a long time and have built these kinds of facilities. I mean the IMGmies is the finest in the world and did the Ever Academy and then an academy in Japan when I was when I was 23. It's still there today. Um, but you know, this is a
public park, but stepped up stepped up a notch based on what you the uh what the RFP was looking for with regards to the the racket sports and programming. The enrichment and education, I think, is important. We're all about families and
kids. All of our programming and everything that we have today is packaged for families and kids. And we're very good on the education front and we're very good on the training front with the with the with the sports and doing the recreation and creating an
environment like this is uh pretty nice. >> That's what I I I'm looking for the complex for everybody and that that's exactly it. And there's also um walking trails you have. >> Yeah. Yeah. The walking trail trails are around the entire around the entire
property. >> I get it. There's green spaces throughout the entire property to be able to view, relax, just walk your dogs, do whatever you'd like to do. >> I appreciate you. Thank you so much.
>> Uh thank you for the presentation. Um the the one word that comes to mind is realistic, right? That's the one word that comes to mind. I think sometimes, you know, we we we have visions and those visions are great and they can be accomplished. That's very important to uh uh to know
that you you got to shoot for the moon because even if you miss, you'll still be amongst the stars, right? But I think what's being presented here is, hey, here's something that we can actually get done within a reasonable amount of time and um play off of what we have
already. So, I could I could appreciate that. Um, [snorts] I think that there's a certain energy that's happening though on West Dixie or Harriet Tubman Way that we must harness, right? We have to
harness it. We have to turn it into what we've always imagined for for for the last 10 plus years cuz this conversation has been going on for a while and more particularly within the last five. >> Yeah. We've seen what's what what's going on um on um on what's currently
West Dixie even further north. Right. Right. >> You hit the smoothie spot Miami squeeze. Then you keep going across 183rd Street and you have new development happening in that area, new high-rise buildings, apartments and condos, etc. So,
you know, that has that that that will in the future or is it's already happening, but I can imagine years down the line this being uh a a thoroughare that people will actually use more often and stop at these different locations to enjoy a
meal, etc., etc. So, I I think that we have to harness it. And um with that being said, I I just I just want to see more, right? Um I I want to see more and um more of a
a quasi commercial utilization where people can actually plan their afternoons here in North Miami Beach. you know, can drive down from wherever, even if they're driving down from Palm Beach, just to come here and enjoy >> enjoy this facility because they're
doing it in other places, right? People are coming for Perez Museum, like the mayor said. >> Um, the underline is another >> uh hot uh lo, you know, location, although it kind of traverses through many different municipalities, but we
just saw the longest table dinner near the underline, right? So, these are things that are happening that we want to be able to harness and I appreciate the educational aspect and the sports aspect, but I think that's something that we we we have to harness um with this opportunity that we have. Thank
you. >> No, I Okay, here we go. It needs to be beaten up. >> So, um, >> this one >> you said something about music indoors. Is that the complex in the middle? >> I look at the learning and enrichment, the learning and enrichment facility
with, you know, the plan is arts programs which would include music, uh, educational programs, STEM programs. These are all things families are interested in. They do with the, you know, parents do with the kids, kids do kids do on their do on their own. Um, so
you know, we we've been delivering those types of programs for I've been doing it for 40 years. Like I said, IMG I had 900 full-timers and 20,000 weekly customers a year. So I'm used to volume and and uh activity. This should be a highly active
location, but culturally I think it should focus on the families, the education, and the blend of the sport. And and we've got a long history in doing it. Now, from the music and the event side of the equation, my you know, we have a I've got a lot of connections
on the music side. On the m music industry, I believe this stadium facility could be, you know, a boutique setting for like when Alicia Keys and many of the music people that are here inside the in the Miami area when they're in town that potentially could
put activities together or or an evening together with with with one of them. And like I said, I've >> So, you're saying that inside that clubhouse that >> No, >> I'm saying I'm saying turn the turn the stadium court and utilize all the amenities in the property, the
restaurant, the hospitality area, the learning and enrichment facility could also be flexible to support events and activities like that. >> I see. Well, I mean, keep in mind that it's right next to the train station, right? So, yeah. Yeah. So, if we have Alicia Keys there,
>> you never know. Yeah, it's a track. But I mean, sorry. >> Yeah, but we we've been standing on that property every evening. You know, all kinds of activities can take place there. I don't think we've been disrupted. I'm g giving you an example uh with that in terms of the music, but
>> Okay. And then the other thing is the uh hospitality. You meant just um like food vendors, restaurants like that or I know because the mayor did mention the be indoor outdoor restaurant u that's basically there in the front part of the in the front front part of
the property there in the circular uh where you see the indoor uh outdoor second floor the canopies there. >> If I'm not mistaken you are currently managing our tennis courts already, right? We've been managing since 2017 and then we've been through two or three
RFPs. >> The two that never got completed >> and then uh we went through COVID then we were moved to a month-to-month uh type of lease which uh at the time uh the the uh
head of procurement was going to change that that never happened. We went through a few different >> No, thank you for for doing that. And I think like I think you see you know whatever is needed wanted and needed in the area. So yeah, you're adding to that and like um vice mayor said absolutely I
think it is a realistic uh approach. >> Yeah, I mean it's very different than some of the things we we've looked at but you also have to look at the viability of it sustainability. It has to be something that economically carries itself so that you can maintain
and keep it. So there's not in the state that the park is in right now. >> I don't know if this is like an actual, you know, like the photos that you took, the rendering of the photos. There is one that on the top above the um solar panels is like a canopy, like a
>> Those are Yeah. So if So those are So right here, >> it's page seven. Yeah, it's the next one. >> I just >> Oh, right here. Oh, okay. Yeah, those are covered quartz. >> Ah, that's what you were talking about
in covered quarts. >> And we'll probably cover the pickle. >> So that those are not they're not solar panels. >> No, the solar panels are on the that's on the main building here, >> right? Okay. >> Yeah, that's on the this mouse is not working too good. But that that's that's
those are solar panels. Solar panels on the rooftop. Yeah. >> The restaurant, the hospitality. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> All right. Um, and the parking is uh you said 120. >> Yeah, 120. We expanded down the north
side and maintained the existing that's there. >> All righty. Okay. Um, could I ask you since you are running the the tennis courts? >> Um, how what's the capacity and how how much do we fill that capacity? [clears throat] >> When you say what's the capacity and how
much you depends on the depends on the number of hours you're open, >> right? >> I mean, the courts are in such a such a state right now that you know you're you're you're not having the type of activity that you will have when you redo this facility. >> But I think that you know from a rental
court I put it in from a dollars and cents standpoint you know would probably be anywhere from a million six to a million eight in revenue generation. >> What's the percentage of occupation? >> Uh probably that would be probably around 50%. >> Oo okay.
>> Okay. And if you look at tennis operations, you look at, you know, Padell might show significant activity nowadays. Pickle ball might show significant activity nowadays. Pickle ball doesn't really generate revenue unless you're
traveling, staying, and integrated with, you know, accommodations and hospitality, food. Uh, you know, Padell generates a decent revenue on an hourly basis. And then clay courts, hard courts, very different. But uh in this
when this park is done, it would probably be up operating in around the 60 65% occupancy. There's always going to be vacancy. That's where the academy overlay, the learning programs, the educational programs and the various ways that we operate. We our academy is
no longer there on site. Ourmies at the FIU campus now. and that would that possibly would be uh brought back or expanded to to this site. But you need a mix of revenue generation in order to make it all work. >> Yeah.
>> And that has to have, you know, volume pricing so everybody can afford as well as premium pricing. And the premium pricing are are the programs they're going to carry carry the operation. >> Well, thank you so much for your answers and thank you for your presentation. Okay.
>> I love the simplicity of your plan, which I met with your your operators three [clears throat] years ago when I pushed to get this thing on the board and they said that they wanted a racket club and that's what you brought to us and I appreciate that. My question is,
you operate the clay courts now. You know that the clay courts are only used from 7 in the morning till maybe 12. >> Mhm. And then nobody comes after. And the majority of people that are using
them right now are our older generation, >> right? >> The younger generation isn't using playing tennis anymore. They're playing pickle or padell now. And they used to play tennis, but the only ones that are playing tennis are the ones who want to be in the tennis field and be, you know,
professionals. So, I like the breakdown that you have of six and six, but with your knowledge of the clay courts not being used all day, why wouldn't you cover some clay courts? >> Well, that that we were contemplating that. We're thinking about which areas
to cover. We might cover a bank of of clay courts. Um, we might do that also. I mean the the covering of the courts the way we have it laid out that you know it's indooroutdoor it's going to be comfortable environment shaded you when you're in the clay courts you have the water underneath it's be a nice that
comes from the underneath and you're shaded it's a nice environment year round so we're we're not locked in stone on which courts will be covered which ones won't be covered but the the reason that the utilization you're seeing at the park right now you know the fences
are falling down the you know the fence posts are rusted the the net the net posts they're all falling down. Yeah. It's it's you know it's not not attractive to anybody. >> We'd like to get to a place where we could do a facility like that and really integrate uh the different things that
we do with the academy and the and the educational programming. I mean we're full we're fully we're fully accredited. Um we're step up approved um on on the education. And so you blend the education and bring in you know
programming from 4 to 9:00 at night for afterchool tutoring u AI train AI learning you know there's a multitude of things that parents are into today and they spend money on today as well as participate with their kids. So this
environment that we've laid out here would be familyfriendly and would create interaction you know with the family the parents going out and doing something the kids active in the learning center vice versa whatever it might be. Thank you.
>> Gone. >> Commissioner Jean >> going once. Going twice. >> One more time. Commissioner Jean, you're Oh, just I don't want to. Yes, please check if I don't want to >> through the to the mayor. She may have
lost her connection as she said she would be traveling this evening and that could occur. >> Okay. Uh so fin kind of echo some some of the thoughts. This is just amplifying what we currently have to make it as
economically feasible long-term wise for what currently is there. And that's about it. >> All right. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Next. >> [applause] >> Madam Cler, can you set up a time? Thanks.
You start with >> Thank you. >> It's okay. >> Go. >> Have a night. Thank you. um vice mayor, commissioners, procurement manager and all the people.
Uh we are US Soccer Enterprise with uh Rakit 360. Um we want to show the our presentation um and explain all the data. Please uh
put the video one Heat. Heat. >> [music] >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Okay, this is um the state-of-the-art uh sport complex for us and community. is
no only the for a uh fields if not for the people not Miami Beach. Uh this uh this composition in in our team is a big experience
um soccer fields uh paddle with uh pickle ball and community facilities. In fact, uh our first project is in Normandy Beach, the soccer
field in Michigan Park. We are the is our project and we are partners. In fact, we have a the private partner partnership and u and this and in this park is the the third project we present
in Thank you. Uh we make a a combination with a big synergy with a rocket 316 is one of the largest
groups to organize tournaments uh and um construction [clears throat] in in the sport facilities uh offer experience, commitment, execution and our proposal first have a
different priorities. First respect the original of of the park about the tennis courts. In fact, I live in Normandy beach for more than eight years. I teach
my daughters to play tennis in in Monadia. I play it all the time. And uh we respect uh 12 fields. We make uh eight paddle courts. four of
that covered uh for pickle ball and the other amenities that the program request for a dog park, for a skate, a climbing rock, um the
all the exterior, um walkways, community center, and um one um marina place using the the corner with water. Um,
one of the promises is the concept of this park. Monasterio have a the big picture is the old trees, the old landscape in the area. For that
we increase the parking view but respecting all the trees the old all old ones because we know is the other point take the permits with Miami day county
especially with durm and that departments uh is hard is [snorts] the same with the the construction we can propose a different things here but uh after that we we need to build that is real. We had
the experience in Michigan Park and uh we work together and we know that that is our experience. Okay. Our proposal show all the spaces with a community center
with a um flexible spaces. No only for activities for arts uh meetings sports restaurants.
um roof deck with suspension and using all the all the buildings. That's uh all dimensions of the building and uh in our proposal we try to use
tournaments and events, major partner tournaments. That is part of of the concept that hospitality workers tournament practices community spaces free clubhouse meetings spaces for the nonprofit
resident association. We have a programs for adults and youth with classes and uses and in in different times for free monthly paddle
and pickle nights wellness festival with yoga fitness classes and health workshop is a is a a big concept in our proposal. uh we include that free summer camps, after school clinics. Uh in fact, in in
the soccer complex in Mishkon Park, we have a um a several um people for for children's with a with a free classes in the
clinics. is lumin is the same with the senior and you access is like I say free cards used for seniors 65 plus and you between 8
during the no pick hours between 11:00 a.m. to 2 p.m. weekend, weekdays with prior reservation for community benefits. He said I explain in fact resident discount 10%
discount and courts reservation for non Miami Beach resident local business alliances a special for local store customer offering reciprocal promotions free court access daily
for seniors and and youth free clinics monthly tennis p and pickable clinics with private reservation and the cultural and educational events, art activities, cultural events and conference to raise awareness about the
environmental cur and diversity potential future professional player exhibition to complete. This is the general review and please um >> video
>> the video. >> Yeah, >> the video too. >> Thank you. Heat. [music] Heat. Yeah, it's perfect for a walk. Heat. [music] Heat.
[music] >> [music] [music] >> Thank All right, we're going to start off. Commissioner Turnoff, >> thank you. Nice presentation. >> Thank you, sir. >> Commissioner Sue. >> Yeah.
>> Okay. Um, yeah. I I think I there's a theme here with between you and um I think NB Academy are very similar. Um, obviously you are in our city, you know, and you've seen that area all the time. So that's uh probably what is a common theme between people who are familiar
with the area. So um I suppose what I wanted to ask was uh there are some there's some semi-covered uh courts right and then there's the outdoor outdoor courts. I have four semi
no cover no enclosed >> uh paddle paddle cords >> and one one spay is a for different events is possible to play paddle
foot uh soccer five that is the top in soccer that because it's so difficult to find a space for that um because It's indoor. >> Okay. >> Mhm. >> It's indoor. >> So, it's an indoor soccer.
>> Indoor soccer. 5x5. >> Five. Oh, okay. So, >> it's it's another format. >> Usually, it's 11 verse 11, but that you can play 8 by 8 and 5 by five outside like at the Mishon Park. We we make the
that fields >> uh bucket and whatever to all the other things and in an enclosure gym or facility. >> Okay. Um one thing I'd like to know it wasn't indicated in the in the
presentation. How many parking spaces do you >> 157? >> Okay. >> I increased the number on the on the west area. I have the original survey in AutoCAD.
We can play with that because the original landscape architect in in the city make a a cut with all the plants in all the places. For that I I make a layout is working because we try to respect all the the maximum of the
existing trees the the old ones is over 100 200 years trees over there. >> So I have two more questions I think. >> Okay. Uh, okay. There's a convertible
basketball court, right? There's a convertible court. >> It's all convertible. We can play different different >> And that's indoors or outdoor? >> Indoor. >> Indoors. Okay. And then the skate park. >> Yes. >> Is that like Okay. So, you have a skate? >> It's outside. >> Yes, I see it right here in your design.
Um. All right. So, I have no further questions. >> I'm sorry. I can can say because uh I think the city have um I think I you
told me um a trail on the on the border of the the canal connecting West Dixie to to the park in this area here. >> You mean the trolley?
>> Yeah. No, here >> because the idea we put the dog park here and the water activities here to connect is possible because usually we have that experience in Michigan park to
combinate about the times that is possible to be open because if not we need to make a any control about the people is going into the park. It's like the m at 11 p.m. the city close the
gates and this all we have access for another places. That's a thing to look in the to look in the future. >> Wait, are there any I'm sorry, Mr. Mayor. Um, are there any air conditioned areas in the
>> Yes. >> Which part? The restaurant areas or >> No, it's it's here in the center. I'm sorry for for the mouse. >> This is the big square one. >> Yes. All this all this area in the middle
>> is twotory level with is a food foot food court in in in the first floor with restaurants. Look into the to the gym and look into the paddle. Let me see
if you see this render. This area is two level or under AC. On the second level is the community meetings. All the flexible spaces for different activities. The we have the local rooms too and
another restaurant with a roof deck come with green area on the top. That the the concept. Uh, I think I have a render too. This one, this is the rooftop terrace
with the restaurant in one of the the size of the building. This one, this is the semi covered area for the puddle courts and in the other side the gym.
>> No, thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, great presentation and great uh great um video. >> Thank you. Yeah. So, you know, something
just came to mind and I just want to ask procurement this because I remember when we were having this conversation a number of years ago relating to um relating to usage, there was a big uh to-do about whether or not um
residential can go there, right? Um and it was about whether the the the usage was strictly park or the certain or it was a certain amount of park space that
we had to have in our city. Right? So my question is really was was it about the amount of park space that we needed or green space or was it about what was what the use was? And the reason I'm asking that is because I'm looking I'm looking at the level right the levels
right you have uh you know you have some of these plans that have different stories and on certain stories I would assume that they've met the requirement for green space or met the requirement for park use. So my question
is does that also um include um vertical as well? Am I are you understanding my question? So I guess what I'm saying is if you've met the requirement for amount of park space that you need on ground level one for
instance right um let's say there was a lot of green space on ground level one etc etc and then ground level two was some retail restaurant commercial usages um if there was a third level with
residential this is just a what if question is that something that's within the scope of what we can or can't do. So to um answer your question, Vice Mayor, um the way you're um the way you're
you're conceiving uh the requirement is not amount of park space. Um um as you mentioned before and earlier, I would love to see hotel uh option uh on the space. >> Well, we all wanted to see a hotel. >> I think so too. The problem is our
county rules along with our municipal policies and procedures. County rule 18 prohibits any park designated as a park space for commercial use. So if you see in these presentations, they have very very limited commercial purposes,
commercial use outside of the utilization of the parks recreational facilities. So, you're not going to see in any of these concepts like a big restaurant uh with uh 200 seating. You'll see these kind of small eeries because that's what's permitted in
parks. >> Uh the zoning issue challenge is that this is this is still designated as a park and we would actually have to go to a referendum in order to do any significant uh commercial space or residential space. >> Gotcha. Okay. Some food for thought. Um
all right. Well, aside from that con and thank you so much for answering that question. Um, great presentation. Um, I really appreciate some of what you've you've shown as far as uh keeping some of these courts. Uh, in addition to that, did I see like a jogging path as well?
>> Uh, in second is that a jogging path? >> Yes. >> Okay. A big one. >> Okay. But in in all the if you see the number one Oh, let me show you. is coming from the parking
going around all beside on the near monasterio is going to the center and going to to the to the canal. >> Mhm. >> And connect in the in the other line to
the to the tennis court. No. Yes. Uh in fact we have a lot of exterior spa uh spaces for the for gym yoga >> tables workstation
all is a with a Q to make a all the all the exercises with the with the white. >> Gotcha. Okay. Well uh great presentation. Thank you. And I'm glad to see the um skate park as well because that's something we promised this community maybe six or seven years ago
and we we haven't done so. Um I'm glad to see that there's there's something uh to that effect there as well. Thank you so much. >> Thank you, Vice Mayor. >> Thank you. >> Well, I saw your partner in the hall earlier and he said he had to catch a
plane, but I'm I can't wait to tell him what an amazing job you did. me. >> Your presentation was so good. The video, the questions I have, one of the pictures showed a waiting pool or pool around the perimeter of the concrete
where they were playing. Is that part of the concept or that was just an idea? >> Which one? I'm sorry. >> Oh, now you want me to find it? Here it is. No, that that's the entrance. Let me
show you. But yes, it's with >> it was >> No, no, the the blue one. The blue one is the color of the the fields. >> Okay. >> No, it's not water in the in the park.
>> No, the blue part I see is the paint, but the water that looks like water. >> No, no. Because we have one one the the sa to >> South corner is water. >> The one on top.
>> The picture on top. >> I'm sorry. >> No, no, no, no, no. >> It's a fountain. I'm trying to differentiate because really all the projects could be the winner. I mean, they're all that good.
But your project did not have what I call a stadium. I'm going to call it like a stadium. the the the problem with the stadium is the same like the vice mayor said when when we made that this kind of
project we we contemplate all the parking requirements for for the uses if we put uh permanent grades for foreign stadium the number of
parking spaces is higher. I see >> the the code request for the difference double. If you put the removable one is uh seven. If you put a fixed one is 15.
>> I see >> per uh I I don't remember it's per thousand people or whatever. It's a it's a huge and we don't have space. It's impossible. And how tall is the main
building >> in feet? >> Two feet. No, no, two levels. Three levels. >> Two. >> Two. >> Two level. >> Well, the project is everything that we want in a park. I thank you very much. >> Thank you,
>> Commissioner. >> Um, like the video. Um, I know that there's certain things that run with the land. Uh, in regards to the county, I know we have a lot certain properties that kind of set up that same way. Library is kind of set up that way.
Has proclusions on it that you can't really do anything on it except for a library. Um, but I don't know if it's needed for referendum. I guess that's up to legal and to see what what can be done. But I understand this need just for
from a general standpoint the concept has to remain that that park aspect. That's something that I think that's the consensus there. I just wish we had more of a little bit more wiggle room and to commercialize it because it's going to be got aura there. You got you got the
Spanish monastery there and just opportunities there that I think we're kind of hamstring and really making work. But I do like the presentation. Thank you so very much. >> Thank you. Mayo, >> city attorney, how do we do this? We can just make a vote to submit the rankings to the city manager.
>> You can do it any way almost any way that you want to, mayor. Um I mean >> because we're missing two members. I just want to be able to have we can >> you need to determine what you're going to do. You you can do that by a vote.
The only thing I can think of that you couldn't do was do it in some kind of a manner where you didn't your votes were secret. I mean no no I say >> obviously they have to be public but I mean you can do it now you can set a
date by which the rankings are to be submitted um >> I say by by by the you know by the end of the week we each commissioner and member of >> you have enormous latitude for >> their because I we we're missing at least two we're missing >> discuss it and and whatever you come up
with the odds of it being illegal are pretty slim >> top four we we just we'll just list them um I thought we had we can do we can rank them one through >> No, we're ranking them one through four. >> No, meaning that we will attorney. >> It's
>> through the mayor to the city attorney. >> Uh we actually have a form that is been distributed to all the members of the commission for ranking. Uh also has >> I haven't seen it. >> Yeah, we haven't had it. That would be great. Walk around and show them where
the form is. But let me say that again the there's great discretion. Um if there's a form you know let me see what it says.
Was this distributed by the way Mr. Manager when the RFP went out? >> Yes. >> Do we [snorts] want to discuss it? Well, I mean, >> do we want to discuss it or we're just going to pretend you you are >> I don't want to the rankings now. I
mean, I just want to give the ability for the commissioners that are >> Yes. >> No, no, I'm saying like I want to be able to each commissioner to submit the rankings by the end of the week and then tally them up to basically you understand what I'm saying? It's better if we rank them now because
>> but we're missing two but we're missing two >> and I just want to send her >> That's what I'm saying. I want to give everybody the opportunity to send in their ranking like we don't like the I think we should vote to say all rankings have to be all submissions have to be submitted by Friday. Give everybody
enough time or or or by Thursday. Just I just want to give people enough time to do that. That's all. Mayor, let me just say as to the document that was uh uh just handed to me, this went out. It was attached to
the RFP. Um it's probably advisable to use the the form that was distributed to the uh applicants that they're expecting. Uh I am not saying that you could not make any changes but it would
be advisable to use the form. So Samantha is a point that you're making >> whether it's turned in tonight, whether it's turned in, you know, for the two commissioners that are not here by a date certain and there's some advantage,
I would think, in having [snorts] everybody's ranking turned in at the same time because it's >> it's not particularly advisable to have the two absent commissioners be able to
view what the other commissioners have turned in before issuing their own rankings. So what you could do is ask >> if you want to set whenever the commission once Friday but and just ask that if anybody turns theirs in early
that it be held. >> Yeah. >> Until everyone's have been submitted. You could ask the manager to hold those. >> Do you need a motion? >> I do. Yeah. >> Okay. I motion for all the um the rankings to be turned in by >> Friday. Little no
Wednesday. What was today's Monday, right? >> I don't I just wanted to give people time to look over. It doesn't That's why Friday would have been a good enough time for me. Friday at 5 like nothing changes. >> Well, I mean there's people who don't do
stuff Friday. So, um I I'm proposing when Friday >> by Friday. How about Wednesday? Five. >> Friday at five is five for me. >> Wait, I'm making a motion, Mr. Mayor. [laughter] Okay. Um, do I have a second for Wednesday?
>> Excuse me, ma'am. He asks if there's a >> I'm sorry. Thank you. >> You've done that before. And with all difference, there is a chair and he has the gavl. So, when you make the he asks for that. >> I uh I just want us to give enough time
like this. So, we have time. Okay. So do >> so. I'll motion for a Friday by 5:00 p.m. >> I'll I'll second that. >> Thank you. >> All in favor say I. >> I. >> All right. We We're going to submit it by Friday. >> Have to call for the naysay, mayor. >> Huh? >> I you have to at least ask if there are
>> Oh, are there any nays? >> No nays. >> Seeing none. >> Seeing none. Um do I have a motion to adjurnn? >> Do we still have a silence is the question? >> Oh, >> thank you. >> Um city attorney. Um, I'm going to ask
help from the procurement director, but my understanding is once this matter has been submitted to the city commission, um, there's not a recommendation in this case that comes from the city manager, he's opened it to the commission. But my
understanding, madame procurement director, is the cone of silence does not exist once the matter is committed to the city commission. Is that your understanding as well? No, that that isn't the case. Um the cone of silence is lifted for this presentation and during evaluation, the
cone of silence is still um will be in effect because a recommendation hasn't been made to the manager to award or move forward in negotiations and that's what this part of the evaluation is for. >> U so you're saying it's you believe it's still on? >> Yes.
>> I'm of that to >> I'll yield to the procurement director on that point. >> I'm of that opinion as well. It's my understanding that the code of silent remains in place until the manager makes a recommendation to the commission uh based upon evaluations. I don't have that until I have all the evaluations.
Is it are are you guys saying that when you've received this your our process is that you're then going to make a recommendation based on this to the city? >> The recommendation is going to be these are the results of your of your ranking.
And does the city commission then have to vote to accept that recommendation? >> They I'll leave that in your house. >> Now he's he's wondering I'm not sure I understand the question, sir. >> The problem I would move that when the
manager has all seven votes, he can rank them and send them back to us. >> Well, I think the reason behind the question I think the mayor was going to lead to that is that is the the trigger is the fact. If we don't have to vote on it, is that really where the cone of silence is or is
>> my my question one thing if your expectation is the manager will receive these and then bring them back to you and and you have to take another vote. That's one thing, but it's not a recommendation by the manager to you if
there's nothing further for you to do. >> No. So, so if I may, the process is that after these are ranked, the manager has the authority to enter into um an agreement, an interim agreement where we
talk about the financials, we um look look deeper into the design and so on and so forth. And that is with the top ranked candidate. At that point, if those uh negotiations are unsuccessful, then we can move to the second. At that after we have that agreement, we'll
bring it back to the commission so we can enter into a comprehensive agreement where we then will will uh start the project. The >> So there's no what you're saying is there's for our recent matter there is an award but no award of contract until
the manager has the opportunity to have negotiations and actually brings the proposed contract back to the commission for a vote. That is correct. >> Okay. [snorts] In >> that case, I think with that clarification, if you understand that
based on your ranking, the master will begin negotiations in order until he reaches the satisfactory agreement. But there is no agreement or contract until you vote. Then the cone of silence is still in
effect until the manager brings something back to you. >> All right. That's what that's what we got. All right. Well, everyone's going. I have a question through the >> Commissioner Smith. >> So when do we when the ranking is decided and the person that's the beginning of the negotiations going to
be selected? When do we get to have input that we would like this added or we'd like this taken away or something like somebody did come up and say it's a preliminary but we will pick somebody and maybe everything that maybe there
was 95% that was perfect but we heard something from somebody else that we would like included. When do we do that? >> That is a very good question commissioner. Let me uh see what um procurement and the manager have to say about their expectation as far as that
because that's a very good question. Comm Commissioner Smith. >> Well, the first the first presenter kind of expected it. >> They all do. >> They all do. >> But what's your Mr. Manager or or Madam Procurement Director? Uh I think
Commissioner Smith has a good question. I'm not sure what what what your answer is. >> Yes. Abs. Absolutely. I do think that's a great question. Um, and we look forward to the selection uh of a vendor by the commission by which we will then have those conversations. And as we move
forward, the first primary concept that we will discuss is fiscal constraints. Uh fiscal constraints will determine a lot uh what we're going to be providing to the table if anything as you question and what the vendor will be bringing to the table. Therefore, that will kind of
give a structure and bones uh to the concept that has been presented. Um then we can bring that as a workshop to the commission for them to say I like this, I don't like that. I I saw uh another vendor did this. Can we add that? And it'll be an ongoing uh evolving
conversation as to the concept. >> So you're you're saying, Mr. manager, just to be clear, that you'll have a preliminary agreement that you're recommending with uh someone after they're ranked. You'll talk to number one, and if you can reach something,
it'll be preliminary, but it'll still come back not just for approval, but it'll come back for the commission, as you say, in a workshop or otherwise >> for the commission to be able to have their input before you have a final contract. Does that answer your
question? It does, but you know, brings another thought that the manager just said we have no idea if the person that ranks number one will be f financially feasible.
I mean, that's another question that before >> that's what the manager has to determine before he brings some >> That's what I wanted to say before he brings it back because there's no sense in us using our brain power to try to make it
as close to what we want in the end. And we don't even know if that person's financially going to be able to >> What you clarified, Commissioner, is that the manager based on the rankings and negotiations will bring back a proposal to go forward with someone, but
it is not a final contract that still has to evolve. And I'd like you to also in part of bringing it back to us discuss who's going to manage it, who's going to what's the long-term answer as well, management, manage and
also maintain? >> Yes. >> Whose responsibility is that? >> And mayor, I think commissioner turnoff had a question. >> I No, there's a if I'd like to respond to Commissioner Smith's uh question. I think it'll be important to provide the commission with some additional
framework as you're evaluating uh concepts. Uh first and foremost, this is a public private partnership. So this is a relationship uh an evolving relationship and this is not a scenario where we've put out a P3 and we're
providing all of the financial resources for. So there has to be some flexibility as to what we demand and to what we require. Uh indeed the goal for most P3s when dealing with municipalities is for us to uh if we can yeah if we can just
provide uh financial support if the financial support that we're pro excuse me uh real estate as our financial support and if we can if that's of significant value here we've got uh 10 uh acres that is of a high value that will be the only thing uh financially
that we provide in our in our P3 uh concept. cept now again that is negotiable but then that's an evolving conversation. So unfortunately we're not going to be doing a P3 concept where we come into the scenario as we did say
with Washington Park where we went out we got a bond and we can say exactly based on our financial pockets this is what we want to see. Again, another thing that I want to introduce uh to the commission is with these public private
partnerships, it is also paramount that they be financially stable. What do I mean by that? Uh obviously uh these developers are not presenting these projects to you just because uh they love the city of North Miami Beach. Now, while I'm sure many of them do, if not
all of them, love the city of North Miami Beach, it when I say it has to be financially sustainable, they have to have a mechanism by which they can recoup the dollars that they spend, particularly if those are loan dollars. So, we have to have loan dollars for
development. So, that means the concept has to be able to be able presented to a bank to say, "Oh, we see how you're going to get your money back." So, we understand how we the bank are going to get our money back. So sometimes that is going to be a negotiation of renting the fields, uh renting the pick pickle ball
courts, renting the uh the tennis courts, uh ha hosting games, hosting uh cultural events and also concepts or even um um the um concession stands. All forms of revenue have to be able to be
presented in a financial model to a bank or or even a de a developer that's self-funded to say this is the concept by which you will get your return on your investment >> and where does the CRA come into this is that a possibility as well because of the location
>> that's not a concept that I had considered but something we absolutely can explore. >> Okay. Um, we're going to final question. You have one one question. Um, Liberty. Yes. One one be
real quick because we're going to adjourn >> very quickly. And I'm sorry. I'll just address this and maybe it's um on behalf of some of the other presenters as well. When uh we were told to present the RFP, they said do not address anything financial in this round. Um whoever made
it to this round um >> when did that happen? in in the instructions it was we're just going to present concepts and then of the four groups they're going to pick two to do a financial model. I'm sorry I can I'm sorry but those were um the indications
that we were that we were given. So if we would have known that only one applicant was going to be selected by the end of the week, I think our firm or some of the other firms would have made more emphasis on the financial model. That's not what we were told. We were told to make emphasis on a general
concept. >> They're not being evaluated on >> they're being evaluated on their presentation. >> Correct. >> Correct. >> And then they're being ranked. Period. >> But within that ranking, there's also financial feasibility and nobody >> your understanding is incorrect, ma'am.
>> Okay. I'm sorry. >> No problem. >> No problem. >> So, um, go ahead, Mr. Mayor. Go ahead. I'm sorry. >> Vice Mayor, I'm not going to cut anybody off. So, Vice Mayor, go ahead. Finish your thought. >> Okay. Just um >> All right. Just making sure. So I understand that there's we're not
ranking based on and they have access to this form if they want it, right? So they know what we're ranking based on. >> Correct. >> Um but in addition to that, what I wanted to ask is there there was a comment about top two would go into a conversation relating to finance. Is
that accurate? So in the original RFP um there was um it did breed that the top two will go into financial uh go into the next phase. um after speaking with our consultant as well as the manager um
there is a lot of financial um uh investment that goes into that next phase and so having two firms go into that phase and we can only choose one would be feudal and really cost and not and not cost effective for that second
firm. Um this is why um we're open of course to having all of them um um have that financial proposal in the back end, but ideally we want to have the firm or the developer that we're going to um
that that's highest ranked to put that investment in. And so um this is why this first phase will be um after they've put in um their their proposal, we have our consultant that has reviewed those in in terms of uh technical um uh
compatibility and and responsibility. Then it's this where the commission comes in and talks solely about the vision um uh what the city needs based on those must haves. What we just s talked about what was in our the original plan. um this is not at all
about the financial um uh proposal or what how they're going to recoup money or risk or anything because that's a bigger broader discussion. >> Well, I'm I'm I'm glad you answered that. Um I just wanted to make sure that in the um the RFP
you said there was a first version, then there's a second version. >> There's a the the only version it did say two and so um >> but what version do they have that they've >> It says two. >> It says top two. >> It says top two. will go into the second phase. >> That is correct. >> That's what's currently in the RFP that
they have. >> That is correct. >> So, but that's Yeah. So, that's I guess my question is just to and with respect to time as well, I know we have um uh you know, we we have a limited time, but if if they have an RFP in their hand that says top two will go into that
conversation. So, isn't that what's supposed to happen? >> Absolutely. >> Okay. So that that's kind of where I was where because I heard your response and it almost sounded as if only the top >> would would even have to make that investment in that conversation. >> If I may jump in, uh,
>> vice mayor, >> um, this will be public record, >> right? >> So, uh, by Friday, everyone would know who's one and everyone who would know who's two. Obviously, one is going to be preferred. Um, so, uh, if I'm number two
and I'm going to am I going to be willing to simultaneously make a$100,0001 150 depending on what the concept is, $300,000 investment on concept and architectural design. Maybe they wanted
to go with a with a with a coffee and get the top of the best. That's going to be a 360 design plan off of the concepts that we looked at. Are they willing to spend that investment? and they know they're number two. >> Well, I'm not I'm not disagreeing with you. >> We will absolutely allow them. >> Correct. That's all I want to know. >> Absolutely allow them.
>> What I want to know is what what is to happen. Right. So, if that any the top person the top pick can decide they don't want to do anything further, right? But what is to happen is the top two are going to be considered and given both equal opportunity. >> That that's what I'm hearing based on
the RFP. Right. >> Am I under? >> So, to do financial equal opportunity that hasn't been voted on. >> Correct. >> Well, no. Okay. So, comm I appreciate your your statement about >> but I just want to make sure I just want
to I just want to know exactly what it is and and that's not that's just for my edification and also for the people who are here as to what to expect. >> Okay. Commissioner Smith, >> why why would why would somebody be spending 150 200 $300,000 on a concept
until we financially make sure that that would be a company and that we I mean that's seems to me would be much further down the road. We have to first see who is willing and able.
>> Commissioner Smith, that is the general sunk cost for all de all development. There's no way around that. Just to get the engineers to look at a project uh and determine what the cost is going to be. You're looking at, for example, uh
the project that we were looking at together on Michigan Park. Just to have uh um Kobe Karp to put together a concept where the developer can say this is what it's going to cost and take that to the bank, that is going to be on average $360,000
in cost on average. and for that project it might be particularly minimal. Those are considered for this industry sunk cost. That's why it's so important that when they look at a project that they're going to develop that there is the the odds are more likely than not that
they're going to be able to move forward because the sunk cost in the industry are so high. >> So um Commissioner Smith, I just want I just want to be clear before I leave here uh this evening because what this says is different than what I'm hearing, right? This says that um the highest
ranking, it says the commission evaluations will be used solely to rank the firms for advancement to the next phase of the P3 procurement process. Consistent with Florida statute 255.065, the city intends to invite the highest ranked proposer to negotiate an interim
agreement which authorizes the parties to conduct due diligence, etc., etc. So I know the word intends is you know uh could be seen differently but that's what this says. >> That's a pretty direct >> right. So okay so it's pretty direct right? Okay. So that's the intention of
the city is to invite the highest ranked based on this here. >> So what I'm asking is the RFP itself is it matching what this is saying or is it saying something different? >> I don't believe that that is matching what the RFP says and I believe that the RFP should hold. >> Okay. That's all I want to know. So the
RFP says top two will be moving forward to the next phase of conversation. >> Yes. The RFP is what's been published and the RFP is what they've responded to. >> Okay, that's it. Thank you so much. >> I would agree with you. >> Okay, I got a motion and second agenda. All in favor say I. I.
>> All right.