planning commission uh meeting. Um it's now called to order. There's my mallet. Time, please. Yes. Time. Yes. Uh exactly 7:09. All right. Good. Um Madam Secretary, if
you could call the role, please. Certainly. Chairman Ernst, present. Vice Chair McDermade, present. Commissioner each present. Commissioner Blamir present. Commissioner Seaf Freed present.
Commissioner Pierre present. Commissioner Bob is excused. And Commissioner Besson, we have a quorum. Very good. Okay. Let's all stand for the pledges of allegiance, please.
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. At this time, I'll ask staff if we have
any amendments to the agenda. No, sir. Yes, ma'am. No, sir. Did you say I'm sorry? No, sir. Okay, very good. Um, ask for removal of approval.
Move for approval of the minutes for April 17th. There's a motion to approve the minutes of April 17th. Do I have a second? Second. Second by Mr. Cyre. And then we have a motion. Entertain a motion for approval of the minutes for
May 6 planning commission meeting. Yes. So moved. Moved by Mr. McDermade. Seconded by second seconded by Mr. Cipher. Thank you very much. And I did sign those and you got them for me. Very good. I do, Mr. Chair.
So, even though you have a motion in a second, you take a vote after that. You still have to vote. Oh, okay. So, well, let's go back to the first item. April 17th planning uh meeting. Um, we had a motion for approval and a second. Uh,
all those in favor say I. I I passed. Okay. And then the meeting minutes for the meeting of May 6. Uh we have a motion and an approval. Um all those in favor? I I I. Any disapproval?
None. And both of those are approved moved forward. [Music] So, in communications, uh, I see we have a note here to discuss the next planning commission meeting. Uh, staff, can you
enlighten us as to what the plans are? Yes, sir. I have to get used to our new equipment. My apologies. For the record, Debbie Love, development services director, planning commission leazison. Um the question this tonight is we'll be
replacing your regular uh planning commission meeting on the on the 1st of July to allow for a full fourth of July. Um the question you always have every year to my recollection is do you want to have a meeting in August or no? City
council is on break. Um, at this point I most likely will not have items, but I'm trying to work I can't guarantee you that I will have items for you for the August meeting. Would you prefer to hold off in making a determination, but this
would be the time to set that next? Well, if we're meeting since this is the July meeting, correct? This is the 4th of July meeting. Yes. Okay. So, um, I'd like to Yeah. Let's take August off. That would be my motion. Okay. Any other discussion on that? There's been a
motion to uh I'll second the motion. The motion's been second. All those favor taking August off say I. I. I. Okay. So, we've all agreed to that. Okay. We get you have a nice, you know, yeah, nice
meeting there. And the next meeting would be your September meeting, which again, that's I think what is that weekend? Labor Day. Labor Day weekend. So, we would move it as are typically due to the Thursday after that. Would
that you be all amanable to that? It should be. All right. So, um we're taking a note that for the September meeting, it will be the first Thursday after the Labor Day holiday. That would
be 11th, right? Is that the 11th or no? Or the Wow. Labor Day is part of the first, right? Labor Day is the first. We would have had the meeting on the 2nd. If we're going to do a special meeting is usually the following Thursday, which would be
the 11th of September, September 11th, right? That's one of the meetings. Thank you. September 11th has some significance. We have that and I think it's a budget meeting, right? It's also your one of
your budget meeting nights. Yeah. Well, so that's, you know, it's up to you all. We wouldn't have it there anyway because first Thursday after the Labor Day. Um, if I may suggest, uh, we'll have time and I can
look to see when the chamber is going to be available in September and then we'll, just like we did for tonight, we can go ahead and schedule a special meeting. Good. Okay. Yeah. First Thursday would be the fourth. Yeah. So you still be kind of in that whole holiday, but that's where I had
envisioned it. But let's but the kids are back to school and everything on Tuesday. Can't guarantee that the availability of the facilities is what Sencia is is communicating. So it may be best if we just hold off and sure,
she'll pull you all. kind of think about it in your own personal schedule um as to your availability um in relationship to we'll check the availability for facilities. Okay. Okay. Great. Thank you
very much for your time. Thank you. Okay. Uh so now um we've had some workshops uh on the LDRs and staff you want to also enlighten us on what what's come
about with those workshops and okay what we're finding we I will be happy to give you a a really brief update. Um the last two LDR workshops weren't as heavily um attended as we had hoped. Um the folks
who did attend were very they found it interactive and they had uh it's a really really fun time. We have an openhouse at the beginning with stations around the room where you get to um interact with uh various planning uh
folks and get feedback on different topics of information that we will be sharing some basic information that about the process about the city about what you know what they discovered and then then there is of course there's lots of really good food and during that
time and then we do breakout sessions of focus groups so that you can pick a table and a topic that really interests you and you know give feedback and on on specific topics and then you can rotate around the different tables. So what we
are doing now is we're just collecting that information. Um the reason I wanted to put it on the agenda is to ask each of you all to use your network of of folks. We've been doing uh social media postings. We've been doing it on TV.
You've seen it at city council meetings as far as um the city events. Uh and so we really hope that you all would put the word out. And thank you for allowing me to time to advertise the the meetings and try to get folks. It's very
important uh what we're doing during the LDRs because once they're done and then all of a sudden and and you don't get a ch you don't participate, you've lost an opportunity there to um talk about things that are interesting to you or of
of concern that could be addressed through the LDRs and at least collect that information so that we can uh do some work and do some um analysis of that uh as we start to move forward with
the crafting of the ordinance itself. Thank you for doing that. And staff, I know it's a lot of work. I meant to tell you the dates. My apologies, sir. Sorry. Meant to tell you the dates. You asked me the dates. Um the upcoming meeting is
one that when is July 9th at 6 p.m. It will be at Joe Celeston Center. Sorry, Debbie. It would not at 6:00 p.m. Joe Celeststein Center when and uh then the next night on the 10th at 6 p.m. it
would be held at the library and a good again good food, great opportunity, willing folks to listen and and take input from you. So please share this with your networks. We appreciate that. Um Debbie, do you take addresses
where people sign in when they come in so you get an idea of where they're from in the city? We do. We have. Yes, sir. Is that information available for you to share with us? Just kind of a breakdown what you've what you've seen. Is it pretty much a cross-section or do you
think that one particular part of the community responds more than the other? If there's more outreach needed in another part of the city, the outreach is equal. All right. Um, as I told you, they're very sparsely.
The first one we had, we had one member of the public show up. I'm sorry, Debbie. We had one member of the public show up at our first meeting and um putting So to give you that an
analysis, I would love to say there's all of this information out there and all these folks because I think that's a good question. Um, but with until I get more people to attend, I can tell you that we're trying to have them in each district
so that you don't have to go anywhere outside of your district to be able to participate. Even all the homeowners associations have are aware and their leadership. Also, we have sent um um personalized invitations to homeowner
associations, other groups um and uh so hopefully we'll have better turnout. We had better turnout this last time. Um but again, not as as many people as we
had hoped. Um and uh so we have we have high hopes for the next two. Okay. Thank you. You're welcome, sir. Um, all right. Uh, continue public hearings. Do we have any? No, sir. Thank you very much. At this
point, we are going to move into the public hearing portion uh of the agenda. Mr. Hell, do we have anything that is quasidial that we need to Yes, sir. I think I believe the first item should be treated as a quasi judicial. All right, sir. I turn the
floor over to you if you would like to go ahead and address that. Okay. Uh, this is a summary of quasi judicial procedures. These rules apply to applications on specific parcels of land like zoning map amendments, special exceptions, variances, and conditional
use requests. The commission will sit like a court, hence the term quasi judicial, reviewing the facts presented at the hearing, applying the adopted rules as explained by staff and the staff report and verbally. Commission members can make site visits but must disclose the evidence upon which they
intend to rely from that visit. Commission members will disclose at the beginning of the hearing whether they have had communications with individuals on behalf of the applicant or otherwise including who the communication was with and what the topic of discussion was. All persons intending to speak to the
commission will be sworn by the clerk. The staff will make a presentation. The commission may ask questions. The applicant will make a presentation including expert witnesses if any. Commission may ask questions. When the public hearing is open, the public can make comments on the application limited
to two to three minutes each. Citizen testimony must be fact-based, not opinion. Commissioner board may ask questions, and the applicant's attorney, if any, may ask questions on cross-examination. Members of the public can decline to be cross-examined. Staff may present
additional testimony or supplement to supplement or rebut arguments made. Thank you very much, sir. Uh, except for both items. I was just taking a breath. All right. Okay. You're allowed. Okay. I I had a a note
to make on on this one. Thank you. The commission deliber del deliberates based on the evidence presented. Commission's decision must be based on competent substantial evidence, meaning based on the record, staff presentations, expert presentations, and factbased comments by
citizens according to the standards for approval set forth in the city code. The commission may approve, deny, or continue the item. While staff previously read into the record, emailed or mailed comments since these are not competent substantial evidence. For example, not sworn testimony subject to
cross-examination. The board's decision cannot be based on what is contained in the emails or mailed comments, but it can be used to identify issues and help identify sources of information that do contain confident substantial evidence upon which a decision can be based. Lastly, we ask each of you to treat this
proceeding with respect and proper decorum. No calling out, interrupting speakers, or disrupting the proceeding. Please give this proceeding the same dignity and respect as if you were in court. Disruptions are prohibited and enforcable pursuant to the city code. Please also silence your cell phones.
Thank you. Thank you. Were they for both items or do we need to uh or is just the one? Just the first. Okay, it's the first. Thank you very much. All right. So, Madam Secretary, I ask if you could uh swore swear in anyone who
will be addressing the commission. Okay. Is there anyone who will be speaking to the commission on the first item? If you Yeah, I need to swear you in. So, if you plan to speak, please stand. All who plan to speak. Oh, no. You don't have to
come. Just um Yeah. Do you swear or affirm that the testimony and evidence you are about to give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Thank you. You may be seated. Thank you very much. So PC17-110
is a resolution of the mayor and the city council of the city of North Miami, Florida, approving the vacation, abandonment, and sale to the portion of Northwest 120 20th Street between Northwest 7th Avenue and I 95. Further authorizing the city manager to
negotiate the sale of said section of public land and to take all necessary steps to effectuate same providing for effective date and for all other purposes. May we have staff report? Yes. Okay. So Dr. Besson is this is the
item you discussed with me correct? Yes. Okay. Okay. And we discussed the possibility of having a conflict due to your relationship with a relative of with a relative of Dr. Moyes. Okay. And I have advised you that is not a conflict and you can
participate. Thank you. Okay. All right. Very good. Okay. Ready with the uh presentation? Yes, please. Uh once again for the record, Debbie Love, development services director. The item before you
is a request to abandon a portion of Northwest 120th Street in District 4. Technical difficulty. It's not moving. Cynthia, can you move the slide for me? It's this is doesn't
seem to be wanting to work. Oh, there we go. Thank you. Uh it is about a 200 foot lineal portion of the 60 foot wide street. The um as
you can see in the staff report, I'm sorry the one slide is is missing off of there. Um in my staff report, you can see that Dr. Moise's properties front the requested abandonment area. It is
about again the total abandonment request is 12,000 square feet. This particular street dead ends at I95. It has been reviewed by both the planning department as well as um public works
and um and for utilization. There's also in your in your um packet uh letters of no objection from the various utility companies FPL, TCO um and uh and they have no objection to
the abandonment of this area. Uh public works has none either. Uh staff uh re recommends approval. I want to talk to you a little bit more about it. As you can see, this is the plat. Um, this is actually the uh
the survey of the area for abandonment. It's a sketch in legal. So, that you can see those two properties to the south and the four properties to the north are owned uh by the applicant. and they wish they have some um interesting plans for
the area that we think falls in line with the newly adopted Northwest 7th Avenue Cultural Arts and Overlay District. Uh the first big component that they're proposing is this really um interesting
archway that will go into um that will be the entry point for that new area that uh they're going to work on. Go ahead. And as you can see they're look next slide please.
As you can see this is looking from the parking area they are looking at street improvements. um uh you know, paving areas that are unique and nicely designed uh with the goal of of uh
having the opportunity to create a parking area for their clinic that could be also used for community events. And the one of the goals in the in uh the Northwest 7th Avenue plan has always
been and in the comprehensive plan has always been to look at those properties that dead end up against I95 for the use of open space and community events. So this fits in very well very nicely with that. And uh at the very end at the I95 where
where it bumps up to the I95 right ofway, they're proposing a uh very nice fountain. So it looks like looks to be a very nice project, but you're not voting on any project tonight. You're voting on the abandonment, but you always need to
know the context of uh why they are requesting abandonment. Me get through my slides here. Both the charter and our LDRs require that the city obtain two independent
appraisals from uh for the property in question that are they are seeking to for the city to abandon to determine the fair market value. And our charter requires that the city cannot sell any property for less than 90%
of the highest appraisal. So at that value, it would be $648,000 is what they would be required to um pay the city for that. And then we would do
a deed transfer. No, you're fine. There you go. We would then do a deed transfer. Uh I'd be working with the city attorney's office to create a city deed deeding over that portion. Um they will be required to if if um there are
conditions from the utility companies for an easement of any sort when they come in for the plans and go through the DRC process they will need to provide any easements that are required. uh they will have to
unify the properties whether it's typically when you abandon a rideway or a road of any sort goes to the property on one side half goes to the property on the other side he owns both sides of the property so whether he deeds it wants to
deed it all to one side or whether he wants to split it and but they all have to be combined. So he has to decide is he going to make one large development or is he going to assign that road to
just one side of his property and then he has to unify it with the parcels that are on one side of the area that so has to do that within 45 days of the resolution. So um the next steps would
be that they go before city council. We are putting them on their first uh council meeting in August and you know those are always tentative when we I don't control that agenda but that is when it's planned to be there.
So they'll go before city council and the resolution that is in your package. Uh city council cannot sell it for any less than 90% but they can sell it for full they can sell it for full value. Uh you also have that option to recommend
full value but it can be no less than 90%. Um and then once that's done as I said they'll have to we'll give them a deed. They'll pay us the money. We'll give them the deed and then then they'll go in and bring their project to us so that we can um expeditiously get them
through to help them develop um what their dream is for that area. And that is the end of my presentation. The applicant is here if you have any questions um as well. And Mr. Chair, just to make sure we don't miss a step, if there are any
disclosures that need to be made, we should go ahead and do that. Right. Um, at this time I I'll go ahead and ask if there's any disclosures that needs to be made um prior to discussion and prior to us opening the hear a
public hearing. I have none. No prior communication. I have none. None. None. None here. None. None. Okay. Very good. Um, so um I do have a question. I'm going to
go ahead and open up the public hearing and then um we'll we'll move on from there. Um there's just a couple it's technical issues more than anything else and I don't want to bog down the um the meeting here. So um the public hearing
is now open. Anyone wishing to uh speak on this item, please step forward. I we see none. Um I'm going to go ahead and close the public hearing. Public hearing is now closed. Yes. Okay. Public hearing is now closed.
Um and I'll we'll go ahead and turn this to a discussion. If there's any questions or or observations anyone on the commission would like to make, I'm going to go ahead and ask a question on this. I was trying to figure out if you
can explain a little bit more of the numbers that came up with from the um the original um appraiser on the appraiser which was 7 here. I
just saw the number 720 $720,000 U and then there's another one that says 700,000. Why are there two numbers? And was this the only appraisal that we got? is only one appraisal needed in this case for
so I'm looking at the two numbers that are one from each one of the two independent appraisers and independent meaning um right okay right
yeah Debbie you turned your mic See, I'm not used to that. Sorry. Um, it has to be city commissioned. They have to be independent um businesses and we cannot accept um appraisals that are
ordered by the applicant. Okay. Only the ones that we order that direct come directly to us. Okay. Um, so then is the final sum of $648,000 that we see
is that how is that uh what is the process of getting to that number? 90% of the highest appraisal. Okay. So, I'm sorry I'm bad at math. Yeah, I'm there for you. Yeah, it's in a charter too if it is. I
It's actually in the charter. One of the slides that froze for you actually gave you the citation for for the charter and I'll do that for you right now. Um the charter city charter requires that the purchase price of city owned land be no
less than 90% of the highest appraised value. The city can the city can still require them to pay the 720. Right. Correct. That's that is not more. It has to be because it's appraised at that. So it is
90% up to 100% of the appraised value. Okay. Go ahead, Mr. Vesson. How does the city uh choose its appraisers to be independent, so to speak? We have uh a pool that and the ones that I have used
over the years that I have valued the work and have reviewed the work that they've done and feel confident in them. There's a pool of about six that we know that do them uh well and that we feel confident in their abilities.
Okay. Okay. Um I'm going to ask each one to of our commissioners if they have any comment. Mr. Cipher, I'll start with you, sir. I have none. This is in my neighborhood and I fully support the proposal. Thank
you very much. Naomi, thank you staff for the presentation. Um, I just want to clarify on the record that we do have two independent appraisals. one from Jeff Michael
represented by Miami appraisal at 720 and then one for a camp delim back and Whitney and that one is for 700,000 and the the applicant has proposed six
no they're required to pay a minimum of 648,000 city cannot pay any less than that so staff is saying that based on the charter this is the required amount. It had nothing to do with the applicant. No
ma'am. Thank you so very much. I just wanted to clarify that. Um I know the applicant very well from the their work in the community there. He has been here for decades. Longstanding commitment is doing
phenomenal work. I have been inside the facility myself and um I have witnessed uh what it means to the community for us to have this location and I'm looking forward to see this uh new project. I
will support it. Very good. Thank you, Mr. McDerm, sir. Uh yes. Um I together with um Miss Blamir um know the doctor and know his work and know the facility and um I certainly support the
application. Very good. And uh Mr. Reeks Doc you took a a crummy corner and you made it into a thing of beauty. I can remember when that what lattice restaurant was there 119. What a dump.
Yeah. You made it beautiful, Doc. Thank you. Really? Thank you. Thank you very much. And finally, Mr. Besson. Oops. Not finally. Mr. Besson. Yes. I have a question for you. What type of medical services you will you be providing
there? Please. Doctor, if you don't mind, we need your name and address for for the record. Thank you, sir. Okay, you're good. I've been practicing uh for the past uh 40 years and the new
building uh that you saw there we just built about five or six years ago and then we do on the first floor primary care on the second floor we do aesthetics. So, and we're looking forward to really uh develop the area. Uh we purchase uh
like uh Mislov said uh properties on both sides. We wanted to beautify the area you know. Uh so uh I I made a mistake when my brother told me years ago to invest in Winwood at that time it was just like nothing and now you see what it is. So this is going to be
hopefully the next Winwood. I will need to beautify the city of North Miami. So and that's my and I'm proud to say I'll probably the first one in the corner to do this with your of course with your approval. So, and I allow me also to thank uh uh uh Miss Love because she's
really been working very hard at at at at educating us and doing the proper things. Uh the previous director, you know, I'm sorry, did not do a good job. So, uh Miss Love, I just want to say thank you, uh for the hard work that you're doing for guiding us on the
proper way to do this. So, my pleasure. Well, looking forward to seeing that center being enlarged and uh congratulations. You have my full support. Thank you. One more question. Um
uh I think we have one more. Yeah, I have I have Mr. Pierre. Yeah. No, it's a great project and um the street isn't being used for anything else anyway, so I think it's great and I support it. Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. McDermade. if you'd like to. Yeah. Um have something. You know, when you look at that street and you look at what his facility is, it's just a it's just a natural that that street would be an entryway into into what you
know what he's doing. It's just it was just I mean it's just really going to be nice and I love the entryway that you're going to create there. Um that's going to really be able to begin to set off 7th Avenue and and the projects that are coming after. So, and thank you. I'd
like to add that uh the embedment. This is again for a portion of the street, right? Uh I do not own the uh building in the corner, which is a white building in the corner, which in the process of of negotiating to see if we can buy it as well. So, I might come back later and
then just decide to buy the other half of the street uh if it makes business sense. So, that's something we have to talk to Mrs. Love about. But right now we only uh concerned about that portion of the city where I own both salary property. So nice. Very good.
Okay. At this point I'll u entertain a motion for I move second. Durade. Mr. McDermade moves for approval. Second. Seconded by Miss Bur. Um we'll do a roll call vote on this. Um thank
you. I'll start with Mr. Besson. Okay. Yes, Mr. Mr. Besson is a yes. Mr. Pier, yes. Mr. Pier is a yes. Mr. Cipher, yes. Mr. Cipher is a yes. Mr. Bmer, yes. Is a yes. Mr. Blur is a yes. Mr. McDermade.
Yes. Mr. McDermott is a yes. Mr. H. Yes. And Mr. Each is yes. And Chairman Erns is also a yes. The item moves unanimously. And Dr. Thank you very much. Uh, and we
wish you continued success and we thank you again for all the contributions you made to this university. I don't know if you know this, you're you're an Air Force guy. Uh, on top of being a great doctor, our good doctors are colonel in the Air Force Reserve. Sir, I salute you. Thank
you. You must know Willer Shepard. Thank you. All right, moving on. Um, next item on the agenda and we'll get right to it. Here is PC17-11 or 111, an ordinance of the mayor and
the city council of the city of North Miami, Florida, providing for text amendments to chapter 29 of the city of North Miami code of ordinances entitled land development regulations by amending article 4 zoning districts, article 5 development standards, and article 7
definitions. further furthering the implementation of Northwest 7th Avenue Cultural Arts and Innovation Overlay District providing for repeal conflicts cability correction of scriveners errors and for an effective date and may we
have staff report um Debbie can I add something real quick is this kind of like we we had similar discussions if I'm not correct to last meeting when we were talking about the overlay district for this correct this is part two part
we the last one we established the district right set the parameters for alcohol beverage tried to get that tightened up all right but every time you do something there is ripples through the code and um the attorney's office recommended that we bring the
cleanup part two okay and separately to you right so and these would include add-ons or anything that we had discussed at the at the meeting if I recall we might have had some items that we wanted to to see added to that. We
presented those to city council. Okay. And um they did not vote on them. Staff had said one of the we presented those to city council for that. We have to come back for second reading and they did give us some direction on what to
change. So, if you're really interested in going beyond staff's presentation and speak to each of the council members of your recommendations uh between now and then, but between now and then as well, we were directed by
city council to have a town hall for the community to, you know, better understand it. So between now and the next time it comes before us, it will not be at the 8:26 meeting for city council for second reading. Remember it
had a comp plan amendment. So we have to tr we transmitted that to the state, right? We got to wait until the state responds. Then we have to prepare whatever if they have any comments. Typically with the level that we are doing here, they off they usually don't
comment but we still have to wait through the process and then once that comes back then we can schedule it for second reading. So in the meantime we are going to be doing a town hall. You have an opportunity to speak to each of
your council members to share your your thoughts that you had shared at the uh last meeting. Um the the reason why I asked is because of the chart that you presented. Um I'm trying to find it now if you give me
just one second. Sure. Um where you discussed what specifics would be uh um added to to the regulations within that overlay district. Um usage. Are you
talking about usage? I can't. You'll have to forgive me for not finding a record. Are you talking about in this staff report, sir? Yes. It's actually in the body of the ordinance. I've given you on on page two of your staff report. I've given you a bulleted
um overview of what is in this piece of it, right? Um, so you can see that we updated the use table and we didn't make changes because there's a lot of things we want to change, but we're coming through the LDR workshop. Yeah, that's what I wanted
to try to clarify because if we're making changes in the LDR, anything in this report that is being recommended, can that how will that play into what what will be presented as a part of the
overall LDR? Well, that would this would fit into it. Um, but remember, we aren't producing new LDRs for a little bit of time yet. So these changes only affect are only to implement the Northwest 7th
Avenue Arts and and Innovation District. Okay. We didn't and the title of it is very clear. We needed to specifically make changes only related to that district. as we work through the LDRs and get feedback from the community on
the overall other uses, things that they would like to see elsewhere, that will go in the update that the the updated LDRs this but this piece right here will probably be effective before you adopt
the new LDRs. So, this will be incorporated as part of the existing LDRs, right? and then we'll adopt further amendments down the road that will address the rest of the city. So, anything that we we okay tonight or or
if we okay this overlay, if it goes before the commission and they want to add or subtract anything to that, they can. But then when the land what what I'm trying to see is if if we're
going to be doing double double approval or or double denial on on certain things. No, because you don't anticipate the LDRs the the the citywide LDR amendments to to be adopted much before
October November of this year. These will already be in our so that we have something there now to work with should we have to need to to address issues that might come up
between now and that time. Not in this ordinance. No, this is this ordinance is only to implement the arts and overlay I mean the arts and innovation district on Northwest 7th Avenue. All right. because there's lots of things that you may want to go in here. Well, we don't want to
allow that. We want a special use or this is only for that particular overlay district and they match what what the part one that you got. So now we got all those new uses that you all approved for
that area. Now they're in the use table. You'll see that they're they have underlines to them. Some of them were they wanted them to be prohibited in the arts and overlay district. So, you'll see that some of the number the uh um super
three that you see footnote is not allowed in the Northwest 7th Avenue Cultural Arts and Overlay District. You'll see that some are just completely underlined because they're new like recreation, outdoor recreation. We really never even had a category for
that citywide. Um, so this ultimately will benefit the rest of the city that we actually have a category. Um, and they wanted it permitted uh through a and we wanted it as staff as a site plan requirement. So you'll see that it's
underlined, it's permitted, and it has an asterk which means that they have to get an administrative site plan approval uh at a minimum by staff. And if it's a larger enough pro large enough project, they may have to bring that to city council.
And this matches up uh to what they wanted allowed and that what is in the first iteration part one. Yeah. Okay. Since I I I'm not familiar with everything we allow in in
commercial district one. Um there are additional items that would be added w within the overlay that still have to conform with whatever since it is considered
commercial district one or it's a commercial district, right? So they have their they have their zoning regulations. We're putting in the overlay district and we're going to add more layers of what they can do and what
they can't do. This this chart is is not um is simply to take what is written in words and make it an easy way to say that this land this use is allowed in this zoning district.
So by using this chart, this says in C1 in the allowing outdoor recreation, right? Now, we didn't specify that that particular one is only for the arts and overlay district that's going to benefit, you know,
elsewhere in C1 that if they wish to be able to do outdoor recreation, they could do that. But the bulk of them because you can't just say this is only going to be allowed here. Um because
like you said some of these like this is pretty much the biggest one that you'll see here. Mhm. And then you have another one that is um discount variety store. Right. We do not
allow that typically in um there's a distance separation and we did not have that as a use. They wanted to um make sure that in C1 it is not allowed in the
um in the arts and innovation district. So you see that's a new one. It's underlined asterct and seven. So it it's prohibited. So in order to add it to make it prohibited, you have to add it. And so the point you're making is well
taken because there are a couple of things in here that will affect C1's throughout the city, but there's some specificity limitation that they wanted in the cultural arts and overlay district. There's no way you could have.
Right. So the point you're making is well taken, but that's uh very rare. Most of them are existing uses that they wanted either prohibited or add distance separation. And I think you'll see there's one, two,
two, or three that are in here that um may affect the C1, but we're not prohibiting it. It's saying site plan approval is required which is a logical when I when I see one that's
P P is um permitted P is permitted the asterisk means what that it requires a minimum site plan approval so there are things they have to produce for us okay so it's
not as of right it is as of right but you have to produce produce um certain um analyses, study information. Uh it could be everything from traffic analysis to um looking at your utility
availability as far as uh water sewer. It allows a development review committee level review of these projects to make sure that it doesn't they don't become nuisances. Debbie, what does what does um SE stand for? special exception.
These are the ones that have to go to the board of adjustment for approval, review and approval through a special exception. One of the big things that we did at is they wanted to put a distance separation for barber shops, beauty salons. Did we
increase it or decrease it? uh they wanted a distance separation and matches the same distance separation for the downtown that is in in place now. Um but we never had it in the use table.
Pardon? It was never in the use table. So while it's allowed through a distance separation, it was never in this use table. But now we have it in the table. Now we have it in the table. So the next phase of it is to discuss as we do the LDRs because this will
become part of the code that we'll be discussing is do we want to limit them elsewhere? Do you want distance separation elsewhere? We have it in the downtown. They wanted it in the arts and overlay district. Um so right now we have it we did not address it in any
other district because that's not part of this. Okay. See, so even though it should be under C3 as well. Yeah. Can that be addressed in in the process of approving the LDR?
Yeah, it it if you want to do that in other if you want to do that same thing in other zoning districts, right? Right now there's I didn't even put C3. It's allowed in C3 with the distance separation, right? But because we were trying to focus just on what this district Yeah.
I didn't I well some things I had to make them citywide other things I could make it just specific to C1 understand I see but I did not I did not I could not go in and do the same thing for other zoning districts right you follow but
there is again to re reiterate there is a process that that can be achieved through the LDR amendments or whatever correct that's correct sir Okay. Um,
no, that's I just needed a clarity more because of the fact that again with the overlays having already there there there's ordinances already in place for the C1 as to you know what the effect the
overlay ordinances that we're putting in there have on the C1 basically. That's all I just want a clearer understanding on that. Of course. Of course. Um, any other questions? Mr. Pierre, none.
Uh, Miss Blur, thank you. Thank you, staff. So, the first question that I have is the seventh Avenue is not the only space that needs this change, right? And so, if we're talking about
the comprehensive plan, why are we not looking at it comprehensively? Why are we only dealing with Seventh Avenue when we have an entire city that has certain sections where we especially downtown where we say that we want
traffic and we want a night life and we're not looking at it comprehensively to ensure that those uh locations have the same the same opportunity. I hear you. Um, this is specifically requested by
administration to focus on implementing the new Northwest 7th Avenue Cultural Arts on Overlay District through the through the LDR update. These discussions for
elsewhere in the city to look at these same issues is what we were just talking about. Look at the same issues through those meetings, those workshops that have been poorly attended. Mhm. is the chance to talk about elsewhere. We already know, and I've
long wanted to do this, is to work more on the downtown and look at what we're doing in the downtown. There's some great things coming out of this for Northwest 7th Avenue that could also be applied to the downtown. So, but that's not part of this particular ordinance. I
was we were asked to move this one along to stimulate and move Northwest 7th Avenue along and to implement that particular overlay. So, at what point will we be looking at downtown? And and
and I I just want to be clear, I am all for it. I I love it. I think it's great, but I do have a problem with us taking a small bite and not taking the whole thing. That's and the whole thing is the
entire city that we should ensure that comprehensively we are building it out in and giving everybody every small business owner that have these type of businesses that can benefit the same opportunity.
Absolutely. And so when we do it for just one district and we don't simultaneously propose or consider the others, it may seem as if we're just working on one side. So that's all I'm
just saying. I I would love and I'm waiting forward to see the day when we start focusing on downtown just like we're focusing on 7th Avenue, which is great. Thank you. You're welcome. And remember, as I said, the LDR workshops
are where this conversation starts and they've been sparssely attended and which is disappointing because that's important conversations to have to look. Now is the chance to look at everything as you said very eloquently,
comprehensively. We don't get a chance to do this very often to to take our code. We just adopted the comp plan. These are the LDRs that are to implement them this LDR update. So they asked us to fasttrack this piece of it while we
are because that's a they had a vision. The council person has a vision. They have design guidelines. They're ready to go. they just needed this to implement it while we are doing these LDR workshops that I'm trying to get people to come and attend um to have those
wonderful comprehensive conversations. I'm very excited and looking forward to it myself because there's some great things that you all have talking about, great things that have come out of this work that that we've done that would be uh you know like alcohol beverage
things, right? So um lots of good things will come out of that workshop but we just need everybody to participate and share that because the consultant needs you needs needs the residents needs the business owners to help share this is what we would like to see. We
have that vision that's not my vision that's the vision from the comp plan but the LDRs implement that vision. Understood. And so I'm looking forward to it and I'd love to see you text that out. show up at those meetings. It's so important. I'll be there and I'll make
sure that I share it and uh see if I can motivate others to do so. Thank you, ma'am. We appreciate that so much. Debbie, can you text it to us? Text. Uh yes, Sinc will make sure that you get the um the dates, the flyers. Send it by
text. Yeah. Oh, you want to text? Mr. McDerm does. Okay. But we have flyers. It's on our website. under development services. I know I I see the emails all the time. I've been getting Yeah. Before we have each of them, I
make sure that I send it to every single I've sent it to your board as well as the board of adjustment inviting you to come. Yes. Let me throw and requesting that you share it with your contacts. Let me throw in that I prefer text messaging. Uh for some reason, I've not
had a new email in three months. I don't know what the problem is. No. So, text messaging works really well for me. Email seems not to be functioning at all. Okay. We'll make sure that you get it in whatever your preferred format is.
Yeah. Texting works great. Yeah. Get get together with Cynthia after the meeting and let let her know if I can point out a couple of other changes to the Cynthia. Uh Kenny would like a text text to him as well. Okay. I'd like to call
your attention to You can call me. I always love hearing your melodious voice. Yes, sir. Melodious voice. Okay. M. Did you have any other questions? No, that's it. And um again, I thank staff for presenting this and I look forward to
seeing how it gets rolled down on 7th Avenue and how we can um follow through with the entire city. Love I love that. I do want to point out one thing to you here that's a different thing that you've probably not dealt with before,
but we are finding a proliferation of smoke shops. So, papers. Yeah. Yeah. So, you'll notice that in the ordinance, we've actually defined smoke shops and because they called it out as something they
wanted to to um to prohibit in that overlay district. I got and and I actually have underlined mistakenly the M1. There's no M1 over there. So before this is a typo. So
before it goes to city council, I have to remove that typo because remember I'm trying to just stay focused on the C1, specifically the the overlay district. but they want to prohibit that and that will be a discussion that we'll have as
a community in the other districts uh including industrial um because a lot of communities are having challenges with smoke shops and you'll see that we have created a definition
uh if you'll look in the ordinance it's one of the last sections in the ordinance under article 7 definition uh we've created two um definitions, one for outdoor venue because we did not have a definition for outdoor venue. So
you really and and we need to have a control. They wanted to make sure that outdoor music after 11 p.m. is not played, is not allowed. So we we defined outdoor what an outdoor venue is. That could be the outdoor part of the
restaurant. It could be a it could be Nomi Village. It could be any of those type of places where um you're having any sort of performance spaces, any sort of gathering spaces where a lot of people can be. Um you can have an
outdoor restaurant that all they're doing is they're playing the Super Bowl uh on TV or whatever and you get a lot of noise from just that. It doesn't have to necessarily be music, but we very specifically said um in the ordinance that we created
a new section 516 in the ordinance about outdoor venues that if they are going to have music and entertainment that they can't have any speakers or live music after 11:00 p.m. uh that if it's an outdoor restaurant uh
they have specific standards within 5109 but again an outdoor any outdoor venue providing music and entertainment has to stop at 11:00. um sanitation because we have places
like Nomi Village and other open spaces that uh if they're going to serve food, we want to make sure that they comply with the FDA for hygiene and cleaning, fire safety, and really important is alcohol service. Um, so we want to make
sure that they're properly trained, that they get their alcohol beverage permits, and that they have to have the signs for open container laws because when you get to these outdoor venues and you get yourself a cup and then you start to wander off down the street because this
is going to be an entertainment district, remember? So, we want to make sure people aren't going from entertainment venue walking down the street with their cup. We want to make sure that they they're required to post those except if it's a Panther parade open
right. So those are as you can see the table we updated the table. We made some corrections to Chinatown back to Northwest 7th Avenue. We did some cleanup and again under restaurant open
air we again reemphasized that all venues in that have open air restaurants back in the as part of theirs that they have to get an entertainment music license and that no amplified sound
after 11 p.m. And the reason I say sound versus music is again sort of that um you're going to you're you're playing the Super Bowl on TV and sound that the cheering and the loud playing of the TV.
uh we're trying to make sure that uh for me it's really important as the chief planner that these things while we want to to to to make the district successful we want to protect the residents and their quality of life as well. So
there's a balance that we we want to make sure we walk and that's by giving proper guidance to them having proper things in place and then that's it for us. So unless you have further questions that's I believe Naomi you had a further comment. Yes. I just have one question
as it relates to the smoke shops. I am one of many who absolutely hate the fact that they are so close to each other and it seems as if the city had no idea that this was happening and by the time that
they realized it, it was too late for them to actually put the proper uh ordinance in place not to have them so close together, especially in district one. So, um I just want to if you can
state on the record, will there be the distance between them? Is that a part of it or no? Just have just like you have for the barber shops, the hair salons, convenience stores. It's actually remember I'm only addressing what's in
C. I'm only addressing what's in C1 right now. Okay. In C1, it's prohibited um in the Cultural Arts and Overlay district. Perfect. So, they will not be not even one not even one in C1 in that
district in the arts and overlay district. No. Excellent. Because we've got to put it in there to be able to either prohibit it or to put some distance separation. We need to have the conversation because typically and the city attorney and and Mr. held can opine
on uh zoning completely out a use. Um and I think I would if you had questions on that I think that's important for you to understand. I would defer to both of them uh as to why we have to at least address it somewhere. So right now I
would have a bit of control through the site plan review process in C1. Mhm. Um and then we can talk further as to whether that's prohibited in other areas or we make a distance separation requirement. And
again that's not a decision I can make. This is what they're requesting me to do is to make sure smoke shops are not allowed there. And right now, if you look at it, it would only be allowed in C1 through a site plan approval and prohibited in the Arts and Innovation
District. They'll have to talk to you about as we get along whether or not you can completely zone them out. Thank you. What I'm I'm sorry I missed the first part of that. What did you I I What? Smoke shops. The vape shops. The vape
shop. Oh. Oh, thank you. Yeah, I I agree with you. Yeah. All right. Uh my hearing Charlie, I have a question, please. When we I'm just going to let Mr. B. Yes, Brian. Um I have the floor. Quick question. Uh how did we advertise these
community um locations to meet and talk about the LDRs and so on? How was it communicated to the public? through social media postings, through um TV, through um invitations to the homeowner
associations. Um we had one workshop that was specifically like yours workshop was specifically for you. We had folks for the development community, the business community, and we reached out
specifically to developers, contractors. We reach out specifically the business owners um and the homeowner associations for the invitations. We also have been doing social media posting. We have been
on TV76. They've been sending it out eblocks. Um, so we have done quite a our marketing folks, our communication folks have been going over and above trying to get the it out and and the fact that
usually food brings people out and the food is awesome. By the way, we also send it out through constant contact which has I would say close to about 5,000 contacts in there that they've been collecting over the last decade. So they
send it through constant contact as well and all the HOAs. Did did you consider the use of roadside signs? Okay. We can't do that because those are called snipe signs and
our code prohibits snipe signs. Okay. So that's you know that's we have to follow our own rules and that I guess so. All right. Well, that idea is out. But I I like the creativity. I do. Yeah, Mr. Cipher, do you have the floor, sir?
Yeah. Yes, Miss Love. Yes, sir. I I I the residents on the west side are just up in arms over the noise out of Nomi Village at 2:00 in the morning on weekends. Uh, and we're talking about a
cutting off of 11 p.m. Will Nomi Village be granted some kind of grandfathered in because of existing lease and contracts or are they going to be bound to this 11 p.m. cut off or we don't know. Well, at
this point in time, what I can speak to you, sir, is this would be applicable to every single parcel of land in that zoning district. It is also applicable to any um outdoor venue and that would
be Nomi Village and the city manager has not been approving any sort of activity out there after 11 p.m. as far as noise. So, the police have been there and shutting the music down at 11:00 p.m.
So, they've worked with the city administration to not have those things happening. This will also help with the nightclub problem as well. Um, because the nightclub, they're supposed to keep everything inside and they should not
have anything going on outside. They're supposed to be soundproofed to be a nightclub. You're this is why I think the we had as you recall uh Mr. Each we had a um a restaurant that wanted to
have a be a nightclub but they were outdoors is you can't have a nightclub outdoors. So they want they came before as a wanting a special exception to operate as a nightclub. You can't you can there's no way you can soundproof an
outdoor venue. So, I believe and st not just myself, but and I'm I don't want to speak for the attorneys, but the goal of what we've written here is to protect the residents. One of the recommendations you all had that was
communicated to city council was to prohibit nightclubs, limit nightclubs to just one side of Northwest 7th Avenue. Um, so those are the those that idea is something you should if you're really interest still interested and passionate
about that communicate that to your council people, your council members um as part of the next for the second reading that would be coming forward after the comp plan comes back from the state. Well, I would think that maybe at
that point I would want us to maybe draft some wording to have that passed on as you know a unanimous decision by this board that noise
issues be addressed in some manner. So the noise issue will be addressed. Your recommendation was to limit nightclubs to just one side of Northwest 7th Avenue because we've addressed the noise issue by limiting outdoor noise or amplified
noise after 11 p.m. Now, I'm mirroring actually what's in the noise ordinance, but this makes it right in your face, right, that it's and makes it very clear. You don't have to go to another section of the code to know that that
outdoor venue it you cannot make noise because we have a noise ordinance. So we're tying the outdoor venue directly to the noise ordinance. So that's why it's 11:00 p.m. because you're not supposed to have noise after 11 p.m. and during the weekday it's 10
it's 10 p.m. When enforcing this I mean it it to me it seems like a a larger sledgehammer so to speak needs to be shown to those who wish to
partake in creating this these problems. And if they think they that those persons involved with throwing the party think that they can get away with it, then they continue to do it unless they know that, you know, Thor's hammer
will come down hard and heavy on them if they break the rules. And it appears that maybe there's not enough um I'm not I don't want to use the term force, but enough um incentive to not
have them disregard what the ordinances are. I mean, that's the only nice way I could put it. I know Mr. H would like to to say but to that to that aspect this actually provides a bit more clarity to
that and it will help code as well. Mr. Hill. Yes sir. Uh so Debbie I just want to clarify the commission's position on the west side of Northwest 7th Avenue not including nightclubs. That's not part of
this ordinance and it needs to be restated again in some future date. uh if that's what they wish to do because we already presented it to city council for first reading and they did not opt to pick that recommendation up. Oh, so it was it was part of the recommendation
for first reading. Correct, sir. And it wasn't adopted by the council. Correct. Okay. So, I just want to make sure you're all on the same page with regard to that recommendation. It's already been made to the city council and they did not incorporate it as part of their
approval and first reading of this ordinance. That's why I said you may want to reach out to your council members at this but we can't we can't do it in in this forum tonight. You can you can we can but that
is not part of this ordinance. But can we add presently exists as it present as what you're presenting? Right. It would just be a reiteration of a prior position to to make a point. We'll add that to the staff report that they wish
to reiterate. That's what we're finding. Yeah. Okay. So, Mr. Held, sir, go ahead. confirm then if there is someone if I turn the floor
over to Miss McDermade have him express in a form of a motion or whatever what we would like to have reiterate it would you wait it and make it do we need to have that done that way do we need to have a motion put in place
well I'm it it's your um prerogative to make that preference statement at any time and as many times as you want to.
Is your mic on? Is your mic on? You got to get used to these new mics. Mike, there was always a button. Pardon? Yeah, I pushed the button. So the um it would be the restriction
of nightclubs on the west west side of 7th Avenue within the arts and culture district. Correct. All right. Now we we the point is you still stand by that recommendation. Yes. Yeah. Right. I mean you have a couple of
bars over there now. You have Rambies, I think. And well, there would be a grandfathering. That would probably be Yeah. Yeah. But they still have to have the requirements, right, Deb? Of soundproofing. So, nightclubs are required to do that now.
Right. Right. Well, I mic, you know, um, everybody's mic needs to be on if you're gonna Yes. Okay. Um, I I'd like to, you know, stand by that motion. Um, and, um, I think
that, you know, it's good to reiterate things that are important. Um, not only from the standpoint of doubling down on what we believe in. Uh, but also to make sure that there's some attention to enforcement, which is always an issue.
Right. Well, legislation is the first hurdle. First step. Yes. Exactly. All right. You said this will help services. So, Miss Love, do we need to make a motion? I already made one. No, I mean, is is a motion necessary? Well, it's as
as your as your council advised, you can do that or you can do it as you can say I want a separate motion to reiterate or you can say if you're interested in in making an approval of this ordinance
with reiteration of the northwest on the north west side. Either way, it's up to you. I I just didn't want to leave it as an individual project to talk to your council. Right. Right. Right. collect still talk. Yes, you might still
want to do that, but I thought it important as a commission to make the statement if that is your preference. So, as Miss Le suggested, you can do this multiple ways. One is to just approve the ordinance as presented to
you and then by separate motion reiterate your prior position. Well, I I'm going to what we want to do is reiterate our thought. Yeah. Um, it's really up to your council, your recommendation and staff's recommendation of how best to do that.
Okay. I I don't have a preference. I don't I don't know enough about how the city council and staff interacts to the to the um since this becomes part of the I have to I have to put in the council report your recommendation on this
particular ordinance. And normally what I would say is they approved, you know, four to five or whatever it is um with the request the recommendation to limit nightclubs on the west side. Then
when I do my PowerPoint presentation, I actually have a slide that says this is the recommendations of the planning commission. Okay. Doesn't matter if they do it in two separate motions or one motion. Not to me. Doesn't matter to her. All right. Well, I I have a motion on the floor, which I think Mike, I just
want to understand we're we're only recommending nightclubs on the east side of 7th Avenue. Yeah, we're prohibiting nightclubs on the west side because they back right up to the neighborhood. Residential area. Well, aware the residential area, right? So, and there seems to be, you know, and they get out
of hand all the time anyway. So, you know, because we we we've turned down at the board of adjustment, I think we turned down three of them that wanted to open up on 119th Street. you know where that farm store is right there. They wanted to open one there and then a couple of blocks down and it's you know
and and you can reach right over to the residential area. So preposterous too close. Mr. Chair, just with respect to your comment, I don't think it's that you're affirmatively recommending nightclubs on the east side of Northwest 7th. You're just focusing on west side.
West side, right? Okay. Prohibiting them on the west side. You know, you might want to add Yeah. due to the cities complaining about the talking about district 4. Yeah. Talking about the the district overlay district. Okay. So, my
question is, is there a possibility that there is another part of district? I I mean, clearly I'm totally against it and so I just I just just want to be clear. um if it is able if you want to give you
want to give them the opportunity to do so um in any part of district 4. I know we're only talking about the overlay, but please ensure that it is limited and that there's some type of restrictions. Um I I would say absolutely no, but
obviously I'm not in a position to say that. But if there is going to be a opportunity given, it should be limited. Right? So if what you have now is you have um distance separation requirements
uh from uh within within the alcohol beverage license. Okay. So if you if you sell alcohol alcoholic beverages, beer, wine, and you're a nightclub, doesn't matter nightclub, bar. If you're
a nightclub, we amended it for bars, the normal bars, but for nightclubs, we left it standing. If you're so far away from another one who sells alcohol beverage, your nightclub, you're still have that same distance separation that exists today. Okay. So, nightclubs have
distance separations from one another through the alcohol beverage license. Got it. And it has it away from residential, it has away from parks, it has away from schools, and it has it has distance away from religious institution, which is what Mr. Each was saying to you that they wanted them just
bump. Right. Right. And that includes lounges as well. Lounges are treated as bars that they're different than a nightclub. A nightclub wants to operate beyond the normal operating hours of a bar lounge. Got it. But if they have an
outdoor component with this now, they can't have any music or any amplified or loud noises after 11 p.m. Thank you. But we really needed to and there they you don't want to you can't have a brewery district, right? So you don't want you want to to
encourage the things that you want by not having big distance separations from each other is even this even our code says if you are within so many feet of another nightclub there's you can't have another nightclub but bars you want to
think about a bar being this is an entertainment district and if you're thinking about a a brewery district uh we just had an issue with a bar that's been here forever because there was another bar close to it in the downtown and they had to get a variance,
a distance separation variance. So that goes to your your your thought about having these kind of things elsewhere in the city. So we have that already in our brain. Yeah, Debbie, you know, um I could I could reiterate what Kevin said
earlier. Um, I live on the east side, but I know a lot of people on the west side. And I'll tell you, every when I Randy and some of the other people come to our homeowners meetings and they just say that that Nomi Village is a an
ultimate disaster. Okay. And if they can hear Nomi Village where it's at a mile away, I hear it and breeze swept. I'm on 130th in North Miami Avenue. My windows rattle. So I don't you see when you start talking about well they got to get
a variance and they got to come for a board of adjustment and all that kind you know it gives them wiggle room. You don't want any wiggle room. So the thing is you say no end of story and that's why you see that's why you see them in here. They want them prohibited
and then uh again there's a they didn't want to remove the distance separation requirements that are already there. But if you want to recommend prohibition of any of them on the west side, yeah, west side, then that's what you
recommend and then that will prohibit them from being there. Yeah, this the ones that are there will be there. I have absolutely nothing about nightclub against nightclubs, but you know, we're a community of very hardworking people and a lot of them are
night people. A lot of them are people who work double and triple shifts, you know. I mean, they're good people. They work hard, raise good families. Last thing they need is somebody 20 feet away, you know, with music you can hear a mile
away. So, you'll see, not to mention the traffic that gets generated around nightclubs. And unfortunately, these nightclubs have taken advantage of the fact of how late they operate, right? So, our code enforcement along
with our police have started doing specific sweeps and they actually have folks who are responsive to complaints as they come up because they're not allowed to be doing the things they're doing. There's code against what they're doing. That's why the police have to
show up. So, they're so you can write a code all you want. Enforcement, but it's not even that. It's people are going to ignore it. Well, that's why if you say no, they didn't even get a chance to start. That's very true. And so those are bigger conversations to have
citywide as well as to how you want to work. You know, I I've been to two chamber meetings at two different cities and one of the universal things I've heard at each one of those meetings in which police were present
with stuff that's really going on with these vape shops. Not a good thing. Yeah. All right. Um let's try Yeah. Let's try to move on here. I agree. 812 something popped up all over the place. What's um there's a
motion floor I think for the for the reiteration reiteration of of the nightclub issue. Mike made the motion. U Mike Mcder has made the motion. Uh do I hear a second on Mr. Mcder? I'll second the motion. Seconded by Mr. Cipher.
We'll do a roll call on this, please. U Mr. Pierre. Yes. Chairman Erns. Yes. From Mr. Erns. Mr. Bison. Yes. Mr. Besson. Yes. Mr. Each. Yes. Mr. Each is Yes. Mr. McDermade.
Yes. Mrs. M. Blamer. Yes. Yes. And Mr. Cipher. Yes. Yes. So, it's unanimous by all members of the planning commission. Okay. Now, you need your second motion. Now, the second motion will be, was there any
other comments to finish off and close us up on the ordinance before we got sidetracked on nightclubs and and noise here? Well, that's quite all right. But, you know, I'm glad everybody read the chart because there was a lot of items
in there. I wanted to make sure everybody had an understanding of what we were and the hard work that that Debbie has put in to try to uh make something out of uh I I move the item.
Okay. Mr. Mcdermate moves to uh approve item 17-11. Second. Seconded by Mr. Each. We'll do a roll call vote on this again. I'm sorry, sir. Who made the motion? Mr. Mc McDade. Mr. McDermade. Mhm. And then second by
each seconded. All right. Chairman Erns. Um, yes. Vice Chair McDermade. Yes. Commissioner Blamier, yes. Commissioner each, yes. Commissioner Seaf Freed, yes.
Commissioner Pierre, yes. And Commissioner Besson, yes. The motion passes unanimously. Thank you very much. Um so there's no more items um on the agenda. Um the next thing um I want to
find out if u do we have committee reports? You haven't you need to set some committees up some committee reports. Okay. I I didn't realize that we have sub subcommittees. Um
so good point. Uh old business not any old business sir. Uh new business. new business. Um, we are in the middle of hiring new staff, including uh a city planner who would be sitting in my seat.
So, perhaps when you come back in September, I'll be here with introducing uh your new staff. Um, and I just wanted to share that I'm finally getting staff in our department and um, I want to thank the
personnel department for doing that. Good. What for that for the purpose of this board? It is you may have a new liaison and you may have a new secretary. All right. So, um, why? because we our zoning we
hired a zoning technician. Um I mean a zoning administrator and the zoning administrator would be uh I'm sorry this the city planner would be and the zoning Okay, let me I it's I'm sorry. You got
me confused. Senior planning technician. Got it. Will be the board secretary. Okay. City planner will be the new liaison. Okay. So maybe when you come back in September, I'll be introducing you to new staff members, uh, including
perhaps a new secretary and a new leaison. And we do hope for some cameo appearances from time to time. Hey, what's going on? So we have no um, everybody's so quick to Okay, so we have no say so as far as the secretary is
concerned. No, ma'am. It's part of the person's job description. Oh, so uh, where is Miss You can always swing by my office and say hi. She she is that is in her job description currently as the executive
assistant to the director and she has oh she's been taken on the role but it is not part of her job description. Director, bless her heart, she's been doing it and doing it. A phenomenal job. I've been here for four years. For four
years she has served diligently. Thank you. And I'm so sorry to hear that she won't be but she will be responsible for training the new secretary. So you will get that same quality from Sencia through congratulations.
And I did get you those lovely name plates before. Yes. You you've done a phenomenal job. Got a gold one and the vice chair got a silver spanky silver one. Wow. And our attorneys got a black one. That's right. That's right. Very
nice. Well, we thank you. Thank you. I'm sure on behalf of everyone, um I can truly say you've done a phenomenal job. Always consistent following up, calling us, making sure that we are present to have quorum. So, thank you. Thank you
very much. She will be pleasure. She will be for the at least two to maybe three planning um meetings after the break. She will still be there around with this person. Mhm. Because you know it takes when you hire somebody, they're going to go through a hole yourself,
right? And so they'll be under her tourage so that you'll get the same quality. I'm Thank you so very much. I will be at a loss. I think Cecio knows that. He has been You have been wonderful to help us. Congratulations.
You have been the best. Oh, bravo. I'll miss you guys. All right. Um, so chair calls for adjournment. I think we'll miss Debbie also. We are adjourned. Oh no, they're not going to miss me. Yeah, they're gonna miss. Meeting adjourned. Thank you for that, Gary. Meeting adjourned. was
um just I thought you had enough and you just came just to help us. She needed help.