>> THIS IS A HYBRID MEETING THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PROPERLY NOTICE AND WILL BE CONDUCTED AS A HYBRID MEETING REQUIRING THE USE OF COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA TECHNOLOGY KNOWN AS CMT A PHYSICAL FORM OF VOTING MEMBERS IS PRESENT AND CITY COMMISSION CHAMBER CHAMBERS, A HYBRID MEETING ALLOWS VOTING MEMBERS TO ATTEND AND PARTICIPATE WITHOUT PHYSICALLY BEING PRESENT IN THE ROOM WHERE STORM IS CONVENED. WE HAVE VICE MAYOR STOKES MYSELF MAYOR WHITE COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. COMMISSIONER LANGDON AND WE WILL NOW HEAR FROM COMMISSIONER AND WITH HIS VIRTUAL ATTENDEES STATEMENT. ARE YOU THERE COMMISSIONER AVERAGE. >> I AM BUT I MISPLACED PAPERWORK, I'M LOOKING AL AND GET BACK WITH YOU ON THAT. >> NUMBER NOW. >> I >> WILL ALSO PRESENT WE HAVE CITY MANAGER A LECTURE CITY ATTORNEYS SLAYTON CITY. >> CLERK HOUSE. ABOARD SPECIALIST MERCK OKAY I DIDN'T DO MY ROLLED POLICE CHIEF HARRIS SAID THIS IN THE BACK AND CHIEF TITUS THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE CAN DO THE PLEDGE WHILE WE'RE WAITING RIGHT. OKAY SO COULD WE HAVE WITH YOUR BACK THERE. YES. YES, PLEASE. UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND STANDS NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> THANK >> COMMISSIONER >> I WANT WE CAN MOVE ON TO APPROVAL OF AGENDA PAPER. >> AND SO I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA. SO MOVED ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA. I COMMISSIONERS STAY SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON THERE'S NOTHING ELSE WE WOULD DO VOICE VOTE FROM THE DAIS UP VICE YES, NEAR DO AND THANKS. >> AND MAYOR, I FOUND THE PAPERWORK. >> OKAY WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A MOTION WE JUST GOT TO DO THE MOTION CONDITIONS. IT'S JUST A PRIVILEGE END THIS IS A LOOK AT WHAT IS THERE OKAY. ♪ I GO AHEAD ♪ COMMISSIONER AVERAGE. >> YEAH IT WAS STUCK IN MY NOTEBOOK, HAS AUTHORIZED BY CITY COMMISSION POLICY NUMBER 2021 DASH I AM ATTENDING THE HYBRID MEETING COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA TECHNOLOGIES. EXPERIENCING A MEDICAL CONDITION. INCLUDING MANY DISABILITIES PREVENTING ME FROM ATTENDING THIS MEETING IN PERSON AT THIS TIME, THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT SO LOOKING FOR A MOTION APPROVE THE USE CMT FOR A HYBRID MEETING SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE USE OF CMT FOR THIS HYBRID MEETING MADE BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON AND SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR. SO THERE'S NOTHING ELSE LET'S DO A VO VICE MAYOR I'M A YES THERE IS A YES MIND AND SAY YES COMMISSIONER AVERAGE. >> OKAY SO THAT DOES ASK FOR 2, 0, AND WE DID APPROVE AGENDA. SO MOVING ON TO PUBLIC NO PUBLIC COMMENT. THEY TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. CITY MANAGER HAS ANYTHING BEEN INVOLVED. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. >> SO I'M LOOKING OR A MAKE IT I MOVE TO APPROVE THE ITEMS AND THE CONSENT AGENDA SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEMS IN THE CONSENT AGENDA WHICH CONSISTS OF ONE ITEM 2 IS THAT OKAY THAT WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON AND SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR SO WILL DO A VOICE. VOTE I MAY REPLACE MEASURES. YES MAYOR ZS LANGDON SAY YES TELL US. MUCH. I MEAN YES ALL RIGHT SO THAT PASSES 5 TO 0 MOVING ON TO PUBLIC HEARINGS RESOLUTION NUMBER 2, 0, 2, 4 DASH R DASH 37. ♪ >> CITY CLERK IN DOING THIS BY TITLE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024 DASH R DASH 37 RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION, THE CITY IN NORTH PORT FLORIDA AS THE GOVERNING BODY OF THE NORTH PORT ROAD AND DRAINAGE DISTRICT AMENDING THE NORTH PORT ROAD AND DRAINAGE DISTRICT BUDGET FISCAL YEAR 2023 TO 2024 FOR HURRICANE FINANCIAL RECOVERY ASSISTANCE AND THE AMOUNT OF 1 MILLION DOLLARS PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS PROVIDING FOR POSTING PROVIDING ♪ FOR COMPLEX PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING EFFECTIVE DATE. CITY MANAGER THIS IS YOUR ITEM. >> THANK YOU THIS, FOR A DOLLAR REQUEST FOR HURRICANE BUT RECOVERY ASSISTANCE SUPPORT WORK ASSIGNMENT W A 23 TO 18 CAN GIVE YOU. THAT DO WANT ACTIVITIES BUT ROSS ARE 84. BUT IT RECOVERY FROM NEEDED. WE HAVE TO YOU PROVE IT IN WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. ALL RIGHT. >> MOVING ON ANY QUESTIONS. NOT SEEING ANY COMMISSIONER EMRICH YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >> NO MA'AM. >> DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THIS PORTION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AND LOOKING FOR A MOTION. MAKE IT A HAT. >> MOVE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024 DASH OR DASH 37%. >> ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY VICE MAYOR TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 4 DASH R DASH 3, 7, AS PRESENTED AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. >> IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE WE ALL FOR A VOICE. >> VICE MAYOR OF VICE MAYORS AGAINST HERE'S E S LANGDON YES COMMISSIONER HEMORRHAGE. YES ALL RIGHT SO THAT PASSES 5 TO 0. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY, NO PUBLIC COMMENT. SO. YEAH SO IT IS. 4 O 7 AND I ADJOURN THIS ROAD DRAINAGE DISTRICT MEETING. ♪ AND IT BACK TO ENSURE OUR BUSINESSES IN NORTH RESOURCES, THEY IN ORDER TO HAVE OKAY 7 AND WE'RE CONTINUING WITH OUR REGULAR MEETING THAT STARTED THIS MORNING AND AND COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL WANT TO THE FLOOR FOR A FEW MINUTES YEAH IN IT'S NOW ALMOST 10 AFTER 4. WE HAVE SO MANY MANY AGENDA ITEMS TO GO OVER. >> I WANTED TO SEE IF I COULD ♪ >> GET THE. CONSENSUS FROM MY BORDER. >> THE GENTLEMAN THAT'S HERE HE'S BEEN HERE ALL DAY HE'S HERE FOR ONE SPECIFIC ITEM AND THAT HAS TO DO WITH GENERAL BUSINESS REGARDING THE LEAD TO FINES AND FORECLOSURES WE HAVE LOT TO GO THROUGH BETWEEN NOW AND THE TIME WE GET THERE, I'M WONDERING IF MAYBE WE COULD HEAR THAT ITEM NOW I DON'T THINK IT'LL VERY LONG THIS WAY HE CAN GO OUT TO STAY TUNED. POSSIBLY JUST CONTINUING ALL OF THE OTHER GENERAL BUSINESS ITEMS TO THE 7.25 COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING THIS WAY THE CLERK HAS TIME TO AMEND THAT AGENDA TO INCLUDE THOSE ITEMS ALL OF THE GENERAL BUSINESS ITEMS EXCEPT FOR 6 TO BE. >> SO WHAT NUMBER WHAT WHERE YOU STARTED O 5 6, GENERAL BUSINESS YEP. ALL OF THEIR BUSINESS. NO NOT THAT 6 P. WHICH IS FOR FINES RIGHT. >> AND LIENS AND FORECLOSURE TO HEAR THAT NOW NOW AND CONTINUE ITEM 6 A 6 E D 6 D 66 F 66 AGE TO THE 7.25 COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING FOR IF YOU'D RATHER I MAKE A MOTION I'LL BE HAPPY TO DO THAT NO MATTER >> AND ME MINUTE TOO. WHAT YOU WANT TO DO HERE. SATELITE YET TO WANT BE DEFINITELY DO YOU WANT EVERYTHING ELSE. THAT THAT NOW. ANYTHING THAT IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT. ONLY BEEN THERE WERE TIMES RIGHT. >> THEY'RE ALL GENERAL BUSINESS WANT >> A MOTION YET HAT. >> I THINK THE MOTION TO YOUR ITEM 6 BE NOW. AND CONTINUE ITEM 6 6 C 6 D 6 6 AF 6 G 6 H TO THE JULY 25TH SPECIAL MEETING. >> A SECOND ALL RIGHT SO WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL TO MOVE I BUSINESS THE 24 DASH 0, 9, 1, 7, HEAR THAT NOW AND TO MOVE ITEMS 6 A D E AT THE AGE TO THE SPECIAL MEETING ON JULY 25TH 2024. AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR. WE'VE BEEN WITH THAT. OK LETS TO A VOICE VO VICE MAYOR SPEARS MAYOR YES. LANGDON SAY YES, DO THINK COMMISSIONER OKAY THAT PASSES TO 0 SO WE HAVE OUR TRAJECTORY YES ANYTHING. ♪ ♪ YOU KNOW HE'S GOING. YEAH RIGHT SO. WE'RE GOING TO HEAR THAT NOW THAT >> SO I SIC 6TH BE WE THANK YOU. THANKS HER. >> SUGGESTION THAT I WAS ACCIDENT THEY WOULD NOT EVEN HAVE TO IT'S A VOTING ISSUE FOR HIM, YEAH, HE WAS HERE FOR K. THAT'S WAY UP AROUND A GOT MY >> I TO ITEM GENERAL BUSINESS THE 24 DASH 0, 9, 1, 7, >> THE CITY MANAGER THIS IS YOUR ITEM. THANK YOU. DISCUSSION ABOUT BACK CITY CODE 2 DASH FIVE-ELEVEN SO WHEN THE WIND REALLY MEANS IN BIG CITY CODE TO THAT 11 ACT IT REQUESTED BY COMMISSIONER ALL RIGHT COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL AWAY. >> YES, SO >> I'VE MULTIPLE CITIZENS OVERTIME APPROACH ME ABOUT FINES AND LIENS. IT. THERE WAS LIKE 2 OR 3 OF THEM THAT CAME ONE RIGHT AFTER THE AND IT'S WITH THE GROWTH OF A LOT FLIPPERS WANT TO BUY PROPERTY. THEY KNOW THAT THERE'S FINES AND LIENS THEY KNOW THAT THERE'S BUT THOSE ARE SO EXPENSIVE THAT MAKES IT. THE FINES AND LIENS AND EVERYTHING MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE ACTUAL PROPERTY'S VALUE FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S THAT HAS $700,000 MEANS AND FINDS IN THE BASEMENTS. THAT'S NEVER GOING TO GET DEVELOPED AND BECAUSE HE'S BLACK TURN CITIES ON THE CITY IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS. SO >> I REVIEWED THE CODE AND THE BIGGEST HICCUP IN OUR CODE IS IS A RELIEF PROGRAM AND IF THE RELIEF PROGRAM. BUT THE BIGGEST IS DOES NOT APPLY. 2 LIENS FROM FINES IMPOSED AFTER OCTOBER OF 2010. SO THEY THAT IN THE COLD SO SO WE CAN DO ANYTHING ABOUT SO THIS IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS. IN OUR CODE THAT WE NEED TO CORRECT. THE OTHER PROBLEM IS IS WHEN YOU HAVE AN EXISTING PROPERTY OWNER. WE HAVE TO BRING IT INTO COMPLIANCE. AND THEN ASK FOR RELIEF. BUT IT DOESN'T APPLY IF IT'S AFTER 20 NOW THERE'S ALSO A PROPERTY OWNERS THAT PROPERTY THAT'S THROUGH FORECLOSURE OR JUDICIAL AVENUES. BUT THE NEW OWNERS. HAVE TO BRING PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE AT THE TIME OF APPLICATION. THEY THIS PROPERTY. THEY HAVE TO BRING NEW COMPLIANCE THEN THEY CAN FILE THE APPLICATION AND HOPE. THAT THE COMMISSION SAID YES WE'RE GOING TO RELEASE SOME OF THOSE FINES FEATS. AND THEN THE OTHER SCENARIO IS WHERE THERE'S AN ON PROPERTY OWNER. THAT HAS ASSAILED THAT'S PENDING AND THEY HAVE LIKE BONA FIDE CONTRACT IN THEIR POSSESSION. BUT YOU FOR HIM TO GET RELIEVED OF FINES AND FEES THEY HAVE AGREED TO BRING IT INTO COMPLIANCE WITHIN 90 DAYS. AND WE ALL KNOW WHAT SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES HOW 90 DAYS IS NOWHERE NEAR ENOUGH TIME TO EVEN GET A CONTRACTOR SOMETIMES OUT COME TAKE A LOOK AT IT. >> ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT THEY NEED TO FIX. >> OR ELSE THE AGREEMENT FOR WAIVING FEES AND FINES. THOSE MAKES IT POINT IF THEY DON'T BRING IN COMPLIANCE. BUT THEN IT'S BACK TO THAT PESKY LITTLE OCTOBER OF 2010 IT WOULDN'T APPLY. >> SO SO MY MY REQUEST IS IS VERY SIMPLE. IS TO SEE IF WE CAN STAFF TO REALLY WORK ON THIS PART OF THE CO. >> AND BRINGING THAT FOR COMMISSION FOR FIRST READING TO CLEAN IT UP AND MAKE IT SO THAT IT EASIER TO BRING PROPERTIES. THAT GOT TO THAT ACTUALS BACK TO BEING PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD INSTEAD OF BEING A HINDRANCE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THAT THESE POTENTIAL PROPERTY OWNERS OR. FUTURE RESIDENTS. FLIPPERS WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CAN CAN ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING POSITIVE IN THE CITY. I AM NOT IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM ADVOCATING FOR A BEATING. SOME OF THE THE REASONS FOR THESE FINES AND PENALTIES, I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR WAIVING THE ADMINISTRATIVE WHEN SOMEBODY IS PURCHASING THESE PROPERTIES THEY KNOW THAT HEY THE CITY HAS HAD TO CUT GRASS AND BORN OF THAT BUILDING AND MAINTAINING CERTAIN THINGS FOR HEALTH AND SAFETY. THOSE SHOULD BE PART OF THERE REQUIREMENTS BRING INTO COMPLIANCE AND PAY FOR THOSE SERVICES AND THEY KNOW THIS WHEN THEY BUY THE PROPERTY. BUT A LOT OF THE FINES AND PENALTIES. WE CAN WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO REDUCE OR ABSOLVED. SO I JUST WANTED TO SEE ABOUT HAVING THE CONVERSATION SO I HOPE I CLEARLY THAT EXPLAINS WHAT THIS CODE IT IS A VERY COMPLEX CODE AND IT TOOK ME QUITE A WHILE TO COME UNDERSTAND IT. >> BUT THE BIGGEST THING IS OVER 2010. THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE FIXED. AND I'M SURE STAFF WILL BE ABLE TO ANSWER A LOT OF YOUR QUESTIONS AND THAT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER LANGDON. >> YEAH, VERY INTERESTED IN SUPPORT OF COMING UP WITH A REASONABLE POLICY FOR ALL THE REASONS COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. SUGGESTED I ALSO HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS SO MANY MISTAKES TO AND THE AUDIENCE. BUT I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS YOU KNOW THIS IS NOT A SIMPLE ONE THERE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS SO JUST A FEW THINGS I WOULD WANT TO KNOW WHEN WE HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS IS WHAT ARE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AROUND US DOING THAT'S ALWAYS A GOOD PLACE TO START. >> WOULD THIS BE A COMMISSION AFRAID DECISION ADMINISTRATIVE UP TO A CERTAIN DOLLAR VALUE SELECT WHAT ARE THE AND THEN WATER THE LEN THAT'S WHAT THE POLICY BE. YOU KNOW THE CITY RECOUPS ANY DIRECT COSTS OF DEALING WITH THIS PROPERTY AND THE REST IS IS UP FOR >> I'D BE VERY INTERESTED IN YOUR INITIAL FINE ON THAT. >> I WE CAN BUT I WOULD LIKE THIS TO COME BACK WHAT A WINERY DIRECTOR DON'T SERVICES WE CAN PROBABLY MAKE THIS PRETTY QUICK AN EASY FOR YOU. THERE ARE BETTER WAYS OF HANDLING IT OTHER CITIES HAVE BETTER WAYS OF HANDLING IT I'M LORI AND I ARE BOTH FAMILIAR WITH SOME OF THOSE WAYS TO DO THAT. IT CAN BE AN ADMINISTRATIVE IT COULD BE A PROCESS WHERE WE TAKE A REQUEST TO BE HEARING MAGISTRATE. WE GET RULING FROM HIM AND THEN WE BRING A RESOLUTION TO THE COMMISSION. WE DO WANT TO ENSURE THAT CITY BECAUSE IT'S HARD ANY CONTRACTOR COSTS. >> AND COST THAT WE PAY TO LIENS BECAUSE THAT IS A COST BUT SOME OF THE INTEREST AND PENALTIES RUN INTO THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS ON THESE PROPERTIES THIS THIS CODE THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN IS IS NOT CONDUCIVE TO ALLOWING US TO BRING THESE PROPERTIES AND TO WORK WITH THE THE BUYERS TO BRING THESE PROPERTIES INTO CONFORMANCE SO WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS US WORK ON IT AND BRING YOU BACK SOME OF OUR BEST SUGGESTIONS. AND AND GO FROM WE WE THINK THAT WE CAN PROVIDES COUPLE OF OPTIONS THAT MUCH SIMPLER MUCH CLEANER AND WILL ACCOMPLISH EVERYTHING THAT THE COMMISSION WANTS TO ACCOMPLISH AND REALLY HELP PEOPLE TO BRING THESE PROPERTIES UP AND BE ABLE TO RESELL THEM SO THERE. BIBLE PROPERTIES IN ARE THERE NOW AND ASSET TO THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS RATHER THAN A DETRIMENT. >> VICE MAYOR TO SHORT AND SWEET A BIT OF REAL SUPPORT OF THIS IS A GREAT I LOOK FORWARD STAGGERING BACK. YOU KNOW PROPOSALS IT IS. RECOMMENDATIONS SO. >> ALL COMMISSIONER EMRICH YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD. >> MAYOR NOT REALLY THAT'S A GOOD IDEA THAT STAFF COME SINCE. >> I THINK IT'S A IDEA TO THANK YOU COMMISSIONER DOUBT THAT BRINGING THIS THIS BECAUSE THOSE PLACES MUST BE EYESORE THAT'S ALL I CAN THINK AND I I REMEMBER WE HAD OUR CRASH I ROUTE COMMISSIONER MEMBERS THIS TIME HOW WE HAD ALREADY HOUSES JUST ABANDONED THEIR PROPERTIES AND WAS REALLY NOT MUCH TO DO ABOUT IT SO AGAIN STAFF THEY'RE THE BEST WANTS TO COME BACK WITH SUGGESTIONS IDEAS TO GET GET RESOLVED AND ALSO BUT THOSE HOUSES BACK. >> WHERE THEY SHOULD BE SO THEY'RE NOT A BLIGHT FOR THOSE UNABLE OR WHERE WE GO FROM HERE. COMMISSIONER NOW YEAH I AM SO GRATEFUL. FOR SUPPORT ON AND I LOOK FORWARD TO STAFF BRING BACK RECOMMENDATIONS OBVIOUSLY THERE WE ARE IN NO POSITION TO DO ANYTHING TODAY. >> BUT TO BRING BACK SOME IDEAS AND SUGGESTIONS. I. >> I WOULD BE MORE AMENABLE TO BRING IT BACK AS A REGULAR COMMISSION MEETING AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION AS OPPOSED TO A WORKSHOP SO THAT WE THEN WE CAN GET THINGS MOVING AND MAYBE EVEN BE ABLE TO HAVE FIRST READING SHORTLY AFTER THAT WORKSHOP BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING VERY HARD TO BRING THEIR PROPERTIES NOT ONLY INTO COMPLIANCE AND REMOVE THAT LIGHT. BUT THEY'RE WAITING TO FIND OUT IF THEY CAN GET SOME OF THESE FEES AND ABSOLVED SO I AM VERY GRATEFUL FOR IT I AM SURE THAT ONE OF THE PARTIES IS I'M. AND PUBLIC COMMENT IF YOU WOULD LIKE. >> IF THE COMMISSION WERE MINIMAL WE COULD BRING BACK OUR BEST SUGGESTION AS A FIRST READING AND IF YOU WANT TO MAKE CHANGES WE CAN DO THAT BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING THAT WOULD CERTAINLY REDUCE YEAH THAT THE TIMELINE BY SEVERAL WEEKS SO I HAVE A FEELING THAT STAFF HAS BEEN HEARING FROM A LOT OF REPUBLICAN SLIPPERS PROPERTY OWNERS ABOUT DOING SOMETHING LIKE MAYO BEEN DISCUSSING THIS FOR SOME TIME AND AND WE EVEN DID A LEGAL REQUEST PREVIOUSLY YEAH, I'M ON THIS ISSUE BECAUSE WE WERE TRYING TO FIND A WAY AROUND THE THINK FORWARD YES, THINK I KNOW I KNOW SOME OF MY COMMISSIONERS DON'T TIME COMES. >> PLEASE DO PLEASE DON'T ASK ME MY LAST YEAR AND THINK THAT THEY MIGHT BE ABLE BE DONE BEFORE NOVEMBER OR NO NO AMBER WE COME OVER HERE AND BEAT ME IF I THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> OKAY SO LET'S SAY DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT ALL RIGHT, OKAY. >> ABOUT THIS SO SITUATION WITH THE. WELL SO ABLE PUT THE HOUSE IN THE END OF AND THAT'S ONLY 5 WINDOW. SHE KNOWS DOING A LITTLE BIT OF CARES ABOUT THIS WE MEET ITS LIKE A VENUE SO THAT THE TO JUSTIN FOR THIS HOUSE WAS THAT IT WAS GIFT TO STRUCTURE. SO WE WE MADE THE RULE LIKE IN BUT IT HAS TO BE. SO IN THE GARDENS THE CITY CODES. SO THE HOUSE TOO LATE I DON'T WANT IT'S DOING LIVES. NOBODY CARES ABOUT THIS HOUSE 10 YEARS WAS 2 YEARS IN A MARKET WAS IT'S YOURS. YEARS JUST FOR SO NOBODY CARES ABOUT THIS HOUSE. AND NOT JUST JUST AFTER JUST AFTER I WON I AM NOT IN THE IN PROCESS OVERALL FORECLOSURE. THAT IS MY SON JUST YOU THAT IS MY CONCERN. I MADE THIS FORMALLY AND I'M NOT FORECLOSURE. SO TAKE IT FOR YEARS, NOBODY CARES ABOUT THIS HOUSE JUST JUST JUST RIGHT AFTER I WON IT. IT'S ON THE FOCAL HOW DID GET INTO THAT OKAY. WELL I'M NOT GOING TO FLIP AGENDA JUST SIGN, WHATEVER WHATEVER SO SO TO MAKE IT MONEY IS THEN SHOW A SECOND THAT IT IS EVENTUALLY I DON'T HAVE AN INTENTION TO SELL IT. BUT I AM NOW THE PROCESS OF A FORECLOSURE. JUST WRITE UP WHAT AFTER THAT RIGHT AFTER I BELIEVE THAT THE NEW THE HOUSES OF 82. SO IT'S A LITTLE AND NOW ALL OF UNDER THE TO PUT CLOSURE I THINK ALREADY. 4 BELOW. ALMOST $6,000 LOOKING FOR THE UTILITIES. IT DOES AND ALLISON LIEN IT DOESN'T DOLLARS SO TOTAL $20,000 AND ALL. FOUND IT ON THE FLY. WAS AND ALL OF THIS IS THAT THERE'S A PUT OUT A STRUCTURE. IT AND SAY SPECTOR IS NOTICED RENT. BUT LITTLE IS ALREADY BEEN MOVED UP FOR THEM TO THE OLD OLDER. DIDN'T HOLD THE. IT'S BEEN ACCORDING TO GOVERNMENT. BUT THAT WAS OPEN. I HADN'T EXPECTED INSPECTION. INSPECTION INSPECTION SAID THAT EVERYTHING OK I MOVE THAT SO THAT IS ALL ON SAFETY SECTION MORE. ♪ ♪ >> BUT THING THE $16,000 >> THE WHOLE THING IS TO CONVERT YOU TO KNOW THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR STORY AND SORRY. HEAR THAT STORY >> COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL I HOPE THAT THERE'S A ♪ >> WAY WHEN WE HAVE THE PROPERTY OWNER CITIZEN. WHO IS MAKING A CONCERTED EFFORT TO BRING A BUILDING INTO COMPLIANCE THAT HAS ALL FEES AND PENALTIES TO STAY ANY TYPE OF FORECLOSURE WHILE WE WORK THROUGH ♪ THIS PROCESS. BECAUSE ACCORDING TO OUR CODE OF THIS PROPERTY SHOULD HAVE BEEN FORECLOSED YEARS AGO. NOT WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO FIX IT SO IF SOMEBODY FROM STAFF CAN LET ME KNOW HOW THAT WOULD WORK. ELAINE I SAME AS RAE ALREADY WHEN SHE WAS DOWN. THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY REQUEST THAT STAFF. >> FIRST LET ME ADDRESS THIS ISSUE I THOUGHT WE'VE ALREADY BEEN WORKING WITH OUR ENFORCEMENT MANAGER IN OUR OFFICIAL AND TO PUT THAT FORECLOSURE ON HOLD. SO THAT CAN GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS TO TAKE PLACE AND THEY'LL BENEFIT FROM ALL OF THIS WORK. SO WE'VE THEY HAVE THEY HAVE BEEN BRINGING IT INTO CONFORMANCE THEY'VE WORKED BUILDING OFFICIAL THEY HAVE GOTTEN THEIR INSPECTIONS. THEY PAY THE HARD COSTS THAT THE CITY EXPENDED SO. PUT THAT ON HOLD WITH FORECLOSURE ACTION ON HOLD. SAYS THEY JUST RECENTLY BOUGHT IT SO THAT WE COULD WILL GET THE CHANGED AND THEN WE'LL BE ABLE SYSTEM WITH THAT. BUT THAT WOULD BE INTENT IS FOR. CLOSER ACTIONS, NOBODY ENJOYS DOING THEY'RE REALLY DIFFICULT SO INTENT WOULD BE TO LIKE THIS COULD SEE THAT WE WE CAN WORK WITH ELEMENTS PEOPLE AND WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THAT PROCESS. >> YOU KNOW OTHERS THAT ARE TRYING TO BRING PROPERTIES INTO COMPLIANCE THAT ARE IN A SIMILAR SITUATION. >> ONE THAT WE WE DIDN'T WE HADN'T YET MOVED FORWARD ON THE FORECLOSURE YET, WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM TO RESOLVE THE ISSUES AND I'M SURE THAT STAFF FORGO ANY OF THAT FORECLOSURE ACTION IF THERE IS A. ENTITY THAT IS REALLY TRYING TO BRING IT INTO COMPLIANCE ITS KIND IN THE FACE RIGHT AND AND THAT ONE HAD STARTED BEFORE ALL OF THIS HAPPENED SO. IT WE HAD IT TOOK SOME TIME HOPE THE WHEELS FROM SOMETHING. I'M THE RESIDENT MY CARD AS WELL SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THERE UP TO SPEED ON EVERYTHING THAT WORKING THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> I MAKE A READY FOR PUBLIC WRIGHTWOOD DOWN WITH PUBLIC COMMENT GO RIGHT AHEAD. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO INSTRUCT STAFF TO BRING BACK TO COMMISSION A DOCUMENT REGARDING FINDS LANDS AND FORECLOSURES FOR FIRST READING. >> ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. YOU STRUCK STAFF. CITY MANAGER YET TO DIRECTLY MANAGE MANAGER TO INSTRUCT STAFF TO BRING BACK SUGGESTED. I'M SORRY GO AHEAD. SAY IT AGAIN >> TO MAKE A MOTION TO INSTRUCT STAFF TO BRING BACK FOR FIRST READING. THE ORDINANCE RELATING TO FIND MEANS FORECLOSURES THAT IS OUTLINED IN SECTION 2 DASH 5 DASH 1, 1, IN THE CITY CODE. ♪ ♪ >> ALL RIGHT AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR. I >> HER OTHER EAR NEEDED THAT WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON. >> IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE JUST CAN CALL FOR A VOTE. >> I JUST WANT TO FOR COMING OUT. YES ARE YOU SAYING SO LONG AND WAITED I APPRECIATE THAT. >> SO IT'S STILL A VOICE VOTE. THANKS MADAM S MAYOR, THE S LANGDON SAY YES MACDILL IS ABSOLUTELY YES. COMMISSIONER YES, OKAY THAT PASSES 5, 2, LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. >> FIRST READING WHEN ORDINANCE GREAT. >> YOU KNOW THAT'S OR INSURER REPORTED 24 DASH FIRST CONTINUED. >> CITY CLERK AND YOU'RE TYPE I WILL NEED A MOTION MOTION TO REVIVE EFFORTS TO REACH MIAMI ORDINANCE. >> IT ONLY SECOND. >> MADE BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL TO DIRECT THE CITY CLERK TO READ THAT ONLY IN THAT SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON WILL DO A VOICE. VOTE ICE MAYOR PLACE WHERE IS MAYOR ZS YES. MCDOWELL, COMMISSIONER AVERAGE. >> YES ALL RIGHT SO HEAD TO >> ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 13 AN ORDINANCE OF THE FL AMENDING THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REPEALING ALL CHAPTERS EXCEPT AFTER 29 SIGN REGULATIONS CREATING A NEW CHAPTER ONE GENERAL PROVISIONS CREATING A NEW CHAPTER TO DEVELOPMENT REVIEW CREATING A NEW CHAPTER 3 ZONING CREATING A NEW CHAPTER FOR SITE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS CREATING A NEW CHAPTER 6 NATURAL RESOURCES CREATING A NEW APPENDIX THAT INCLUDES DEFINITIONS AND TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS FOR FINDINGS PROVIDING FOR COMPLEX PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING FOR TRANSMITTAL OF DOCUMENT ABOUT IT THE PART PATIENTS AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE >> THANK YOU CITY MANAGER THIS IS YOUR ITEM. >> WE'RE GOING TO GO TO OUR SAYS SERVICE OF TO THIS POINT. IN EYE. >> MAYOR COMMISSIONERS LORI BARNES ASSISTANT AND SERVICES. TONIGHT YOU HAVE ORDINANCES ASSOCIATED WITH THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE ADOPTION ON YOUR AGENDA BECAUSE THESE ARE CLOSELY RELATED I'M ONLY GOING TO GET ONE PRESENTATION WHICH WILL BE VERY BRIEF BECAUSE WORKSHOP ALL OF THESE ITEMS MULTIPLE TIMES >> I WILL AREN'T AS PART OF THE PRESENTATION THOUGH I WILL RECAP THE DIRECTIVES ON THE JUNE 3RD WORKSHOP. SO THAT YOU'RE CLEAR ON WHAT WE'VE INCORPORATED BASED ON THE CHANGE THIS REQUESTED ON THAT DAY. VERY BRIEFLY THE HISTORY OF THE ULDC REWRITE AND 2015 MILER ENGINEERING REVIEW, THE ULDC AND PROVIDED RECOMMENDATIONS, INCLUDING REORGANIZATION LANGUAGE AND CONTENT SIMPLIFICATION THAT'S THE CHAPTERS CREATING SEPARATE TECHNICAL DESIGN AND MANUALS RETHINKING DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS. AN AGREEMENT WAS MADE THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA FOR THE ULDC UP TO IT. >> UNFORTUNATELY THAT EFFORT DID NOT COME TO FRUITION AND BEFORE I LEAVE THIS PAGE I WANTED TO ADDRESS THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM WEILER ENGINEERING. THE NORTH PORT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT HAS. ACCOMPLISH THE MAJORITY OF THESE SUGGESTIONS AND THIS ULDC REWRITE IT. WE FROM 24 CHAPTERS TO 6 CHAPTERS WITH APPENDIX FOR DEFINITIONS AND IN HAND THAT'S FOR THE TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS WHICH WILL BE BEING REMOVED WITH THE IT SURE ORDINANCE TO ADOPT THE ENGINEERING AND DESIGN STANDARDS I REFERENCE. THE PAGE COUNTS OF THE ULDC COMBINED INCLUDING THE TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS 3.38. I'VE 196 UNDER THE CURRENT CODE. WE HAVE REORGANIZED THE PROVISIONS OF AIR AND SENSIBLE PLACEMENT AS THEY ARE RELATED TO ONE ANOTHER. AND WE HAVE INCLUDED TABLES MAJOR SEAS FOR MANNING THAT MAKES THE ULDC EASY ALL-OUT EVEN FOR THE LAY PERSON. AND 2018 2019 AND THE ULDC EFFORT WAS REINVIGORATED WITH THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL TO CALVIN JIHAD AREN'T AN ASSOCIATE. A NUMBER OF WORKSHOPS AND PUBLIC OR FORMS WERE HOUT BUT NOT MUCH WAS ACCOMPLISHED AS FAR AS THE REWRITE WAS CONCERNED THEY HAVE SOME TRAPS THE DROUGHTS DID NOT REALLY. WE CAN THANK CURRENT REGULATIONS AND ANY. SUBSTANTIAL WAY AND THEY WERE STILL JUST AS WORTHY DIFFICULT AS OUR CURRENT CODE. 2020 INVOLVED ADDITIONAL WORKSHOPS TO LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE DROP CHAPTERS THAT AND REWORKED. AND 2022. WE SERVICES APPROACHED A ULDC REWRITE WE STARTED WITH A WORKSHOP IN SEPTEMBER OF AT THAT TIME WE WERE PROPOSING COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT WITHIN 12 MONTHS. WE DID SUFFER SEVERAL SETBACKS INCLUDING THE HEART CAN STOP ARCHER OTHER UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES. SO HERE WE ARE. AFTER WORKSHOPS WITH WORKSHOPS WITH COMMISSION. TRAVELING DOWN THIS WINDING ROAD TOWARD CHANGE. BUT THE CITY OF NORTH PORT SORELY NEEDS BECAUSE IT'S A COMMUNITY THAT WAS ITS DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT IT DC. NO FORESIGHT TO CREATE A CITY THAT WAS FISCALLY SUSTAINABLE AND CREATE A JOB OPPORTUNITIES AND. ESTABLISHED A PLACE THAT PEOPLE COULD LIVE WORK AND PLAY. AS PART OF THIS WHOLE 22 MONTH ULDC PROCESS WE DID AND ALL THE THROUGH 30 PLUS MEETINGS WITH THE CITY COMMISSION WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD WITH THE CHAMBER WITH THE COMMUNITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY BOARD AS WELL AS COMMUNITY NORTH PORT UNITED A BOUNCE OTHER CONFERENCE. WE PUBLISH POD CATS. CASTS FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTION FLYERS AND WE MET INDIVIDUALLY WITH MANY CONCERNED REST THAT'S PRIMARILY ACTIVITY CENTER SEX. THE J 3RD WORKSHOP. THE COMMISSION REQUESTED THAT WE INCORPORATE A REQUIREMENT FOR COMMUNITY MEETINGS FOR ALL PROJECTS EXCEPT ONE INTO FAMILY DEVELOPMENT THAT IS IN YOUR UPDATED DRAFT. THERE WAS COMMISSION CONSENSUS TO MAIL NOTICES. WITH 1350 SQUARE FOOT RADIUS FOR REZONE SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS AND WAIVERS AND 1204 NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS. NOW YOU'LL SEE THAT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE TERMINOLOGY IS NOT IN THE DRAFT BECAUSE THAT WAS MISSPOKE TO FALL TO 1320 FEET BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT'S UNDER THE CURRENT CODE. EVEN THOUGH THE CONSENSUS INDICATED 1350 WE THOUGHT THAT WAS THE INTENT THERE WAS TO DO WHAT THE CURRENT WE DID NOT INCORPORATE ADDITIONAL. ONE MILE NOTICE FOR AGRICULTURAL PROPERTIES THERE WAS NOT A CONSENSUS ON THAT ITEM. AND AT LEAST ONE COMMISSIONER INDICATED, THEY'D BE WILLING TO CONSIDER UP BUT ONLY OUR CURRENT REGULATIONS CALLED FOR THAT AND WE DO NOT. WE PROVIDED FOR ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL FOR SITE DEVELOPMENT AND INFRASTRUCTURE PLANS 100% AND COMPARTMENTS WITH THE ULDC. REGARDING PETS AND MY NAME THERE WAS SUBSTANTIAL CONVERSATION ABOUT THE ALLOWANCES FOR PETS AND THE CITY. WHAT LIMITATION SHOULD BE PLACED ON. DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAD. AND KHAN DIGGING THAT WAS INCIDENTAL TO THEIR SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND WHETHER THERE SHOULD BE ANY LIMITATIONS ON TRANSPORTING BILL OFF SITE FOR THOSE PROPERTIES. THERE WAS ALSO A CONVERSATION ABOUT ELIMINATING THE WORD MINING FROM THE TABLES AND. THE DIRECTIVE FOR STAFF TO COME BACK WITH SOMETHING TO ADDRESS CONCERNS. WHAT WE HAVE INCORPORATED THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A SEPARATE MINING CATEGORY AND THESE TABLES. THAT MAKES IT CLEAR WITHOUT OWING TO CHAPTER THAT MINING IS PROHIBITED. ALL STATE MINING IS ALSO IN THE USE TABLES. AND CLEARLY DEMONSTRATES THAT MINING IS PROHIBITED WITHOUT HAVING TO GO TO CHAPTER 4 TO LEARN THAT. WE'VE CREATED ANY EVES CATEGORY ALL EARTH MOVING INCIDENTAL AND THAT IS FOR SITE DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATED EARTH MAPPING. LIMITS BILL TO BE IN HOT SIDE 2000 CUBIC YARDS. ANYTHING ABOVE A 1000 CUBIC YARDS REQUIRES A SPECIAL EXCEPTION AND REQUIRES THE BONDING ASSOCIATED. ARE PROVIDED FOR IN CHAPTER 4. THE DRAFTING WELL OF THE ANY EARTHMOVING. OVER. >> A 1000. YOU MAKE YOUR YARDS 2. ALL RIGHT THERE WITH MEMORIES FOR ITS URBAN LISA WELL TODAY. >> AND YOU ARE COMMITTING BETWEEN A 1000 AND WON AND 2500. YOU MAKE YOUR HEART. 2550,000 CUBIC YARDS. >> WOULD BE ALLOWED AS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION AND MOST ZONING DISTRICTS. ANYTHING OVER 50,000 CUBIC YARDS WOULD BE A SPECIAL EXCEPTION ONLY AND ACTIVITY CENTER 6 AND TOWN CHAPTER 4 THERE IS AREA BALL ON BEING REQUIRED READING BASED ON WHETHER YOU ARE A GENERAL MINOR OR MAJOR PAT. OF COURSE THAT ON THE REQUIREMENT INCREASES INCREMENTALLY BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF FELLING YOU'RE HAULING. YOUR SITE. WE UPDATED THE OFFER TABLE TO ELIMINATE THE REDUCTION AUTHORIZED WITH THE USE OF FACTS. WE INCORPORATED. ALLOWANCES FOR FENCES ON VACANT PROPERTY PROVIDED THAT THEY WERE OPAQUE AND MADE OF NATURAL MATERIAL. WE ADDRESSED THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE SIGN REQUESTS FROM. FROM THEIR MEMO AND WE SENT THE CITY COMMISSION A MEMO ON JUNE 24TH, WHICH INDICATED THE CHANGES WE NEED WE DID MAKE MOST OF THE CHANGES AND ADJUSTMENTS THEY REQUESTED, BUT THERE ARE A FEW THAT WE WERE NOT IN AGREEMENT WITH WE NON-RESIDENTIAL TO THE TEMPORARY SIGN DEFINITION TO CLARIFY THAT TEMPORARY SIGNS FOR NON RESIDENTIAL USES VERSUS LIMITED DURATION SIGNS WHICH ARE ALLOWED WORK. WE PROVIDED FOR PROHIBITION FOR BUSINESS ACTIVITIES AND CT AND CO BETWEEN 10:00PM AND AND WE REMOVE IS TRYING DISTANCE REFERENCE AND THE CORRIDORS AND DESCRIPTIONS. WE MADE SEVERAL UPDATES TO. THEY USE TABLES AND CORRIDOR AND SEE THE NEEDS CT HAS PROVIDED CONSENSUS 3 OR MORE. ON 3RD. WE UPDATED THE SOUNDING. NOW. BASED ON FROM THE CITY COMMISSION AT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WORKSHOPS. THE FINAL NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE. ACHIEVED WITH THIS REPEAL AND REPLACE OF THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP AS AN INCREASE OF FUNCTIONAL INCREASE OF 12%. THERE ZONING CHARTS AND OR ORDINANCE 2024 TESTS 15. IT GETS INTO MORE DETAIL, BASICALLY WE INCREASED OUR DRAFTED ACREAGE THAT ALLOWED NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT BY 61%. SO WE NEED TO DO A LITTLE MATH TO GET A FOR COMPARISON. IF THE COMMISSION MOVES FORWARD WITH THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE ORDINANCES. 2024 1314, 15 WE WILL CONTINUE TO INTO THE FUTURE WITH A MORE. MODERN CODE. WHERE THEY'RE ON ALLOWANCES FOR ADDITIONAL NON RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WHERE THERE ARE LIMITATIONS ON THE RESIDENTIAL SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT WILL BE ALLOWED IN OUR TRADITIONAL ZONING DISTRICTS IN OUR CORRIDOR DISTRICT AS WELL AS OUR ACTIVITIES CENTER DISTRICTS. THE PLANNING AND ZONING ADVISORY BOARD DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ALL 3 PETITIONS TO REPEAL AND REPLACE THE ULDC CHAPTERS IN THE OFFICIAL SAID I'M AND THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF ORDINANCES. WE DO HAVE OUR OUTSIDE COUNCIL SAYS INTRAPARTY IN FROM ONE >> AVAILABLE IF ANY QUESTIONS SHOULD. >> I DIGRESS I JUST RECEIVED A NOTICE FROM HER UNFORTUNATELY SHE HAD TO OUT TO ANOTHER COMMISSION MEETING SINCE OUR MEETING WENT SO LONG THAT IF THERE ARE ANY LEGAL QUESTIONS THAT ARISE WILL TAKE NOTE WE COLLABORATE WITH THE ATTORNEY BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING TO GET ANY ANSWERS BACK TO YOU THAT YOU NEED. AS WE HAVE WORKSHOP 10 WORKSHOP AND WORKSHOPS. I DIDN'T HAVE MUCH OF A PRESENTATION FOR YOU TONIGHT. WE APPRECIATE ALL THE INPUT THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US AND ALL THE DIRECTION YOU'VE GIVEN US AND WE THINK THAT WE HAVE A FINAL PRODUCT REALLY IS GOING TO BRING THE CITY INTO THE FUTURE. AND IT IS GOING TO CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY ACHIEVE THE KIND OF DEVELOPMENT CITY COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO SEE AND ALTHOUGH WE DIDN'T ACHIEVE 18% NON-RESIDENTIAL THAT YOU ARE STRIVING FOR IN YOUR STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN, WE'VE GOT TO 16. AS A POTENTIAL SO WE'RE WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THE WORK THAT EVERYONE THE COMMISSION THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD AND ALL FROM ALL THE OTHER ADVISORY BOARDS. AND STAFF AND CREATING THIS DOCUMENT SO I'M SURE THERE WILL BE QUESTIONS AND I'M SURE THERE WILL BE MOTIONS. BUT REALLY LOOKING FORWARD I KNOW I THIS ULDC REWRITE AND GETTING ON WITH ALL OF THE OTHER GOOD WORK THAT WE NEED TO ACCOMPLISH. OKAY. THANK YOU OR WE START TAKING COMMISSIONER. >> QUESTIONS JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR RESIDENTS HAPPENED TO BE LISTENING OUT THERE. THIS IS OUR FIRST READING WE DO HAVE A SECOND READING AND THAT'S AUGUST 6. SO THIS IS NOT BANALITY OF THIS AND JUST MAKE IT CLEAR AGAIN UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT AND THE AMENDMENT. THIS IS NOT WRITTEN IN STONE THAT ONCE YOU MAKE THESE CHANGES ARE ANY CHANGES OR NO CHANGES THAT NOTHING'S EVER GOING TO BE DONE AGAIN. >> I DO BARNES BRINGING OUT A LONG LABORIOUS PROCESS THIS HAS I WAS TRYING TO REFERENCE POINT. >> UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA. AND THE CHAMBER AND I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT WAS THE SAME THING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW LIKE SO LONG AGO THAT WAS. SO I'M SO GLAD THAT WORK >> GETTING SOME CLOSURE HERE WE'RE GETTING TO THE END, I'M HOPING IT'S GOING TO COME SOONER THAN. AND I WOULD ENCOURAGED COMMISSIONERS STICK TO A 5 MINUTE QUESTIONS AND WE'LL JUST GO THROUGH ROUNDS THAT WAY SO THAT WE CAN EACH GET OUR QUESTIONS OUT AND PERHAPS GET YOUR QUESTION. I MY SON'S ANSWERED WHAT WE'RE ASKING TO PROCESS ALONG. SO WE'LL START WITH. COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. THANK YOU MAYOR. >> YOU BROUGHT IT UP DURING YOUR PRESENTATION LORI ABOUT THE VACANT PROPERTY FENCE. >> WHEN I LOOKED IN THE AND I WAS SHOCKED TO SEE OPAQUE OPAQUE MEANS CAN'T SEE THROUGH IT. >> THE MOTION WAS TO ALLOW OFFENSE OF TRANSLUCENT NATURAL MATERIALS EXCEPT IF TO BE ON NATURAL MATERIAL SEE WHY. I BELIEVE THAT SCRIVENER THE CODE. HAS REQUIREMENTS FOR OPAQUE NUS BUT THE THE WE'RE TRYING LOSE IT NEVER COME ACROSS THESE BECAUSE I WOULD NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT WORD. THAT IS A WORD THAT SUGGESTED BY STAFF DURING THAT DISCUSSION. SO THAT'S THE WORD THAT I USED WHEN WE REACH THE CONSENSUS UNANIMOUS TO HAVE TRANSLUCENT SO THAT IT IT DOES ALLOW PEOPLE TO SEE THROUGH IT BECAUSE IT IS VACANT PROPERTY, YES, MA'AM THAT WAS PARTNERS ARE IT WAS INTENDED APARTMENT THE CORRECTION. THANK YOU VERY VERY MUCH I FIGURED THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT >> BUT I WANTED TO BE SAFE BRING YOU KNOW RIGHT AWAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT AND IT AND I DON'T KNOW PAID OR IF YOU JUST WANT TO USE THE WORD TRANSLUCENT FLURRIES WERE. >> OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP AND I'M TRYING TO GET THE HOUSEKEEPING STUFF TAKEN CARE OF BEFORE GOING TO THE BIG STUFF PAGE 2425 WE TALKED ABOUT MAILING NOTICES TO THE RESIDENTS. FOR MEETINGS AND PUBLIC HEARINGS AND STUFF. I KEPT GOING BACK TO THAT AND I REALIZED WHY WAS STICKING OUT. WHEN I COMPARED IT TO THE CODE WE ARE USING THE WORDS. THE RATINGS FROM THE PROPERTY LINE AND I KNOW THAT SEEMS VERY MUNDANE BUT IF YOU HAVE A LARGE PROPERTY AND YOU DON'T HAVE WHERE YOU WERE STARTING THAT MEASUREMENT I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO HAPPEN IN THE COLD. SO I WOULD AT SOME POINT I WILL BE MAKING A MOTION TO INCLUDE RADIUS FROM THE PROPERTY LINE WITHIN THAT MAILING NOTIFICATION OF THAT 1320 FEET. UNLESS YOU WANT TO JUST DO A CONSENSUS NOW OCEAN IT'S UP TO YOU GUYS WANT TO DO THIS LITTLE STUFF WANT TO THAT AS AS THEY COME TIME ARE OK, THANK YOU. SO IT IS ON PAGE, 2425. IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THAT AND SEE WHAT THAT THE EXACT WORDING IS. SO WE WERE REQUIRED TO SEND UP A NOTIFICATION AND I JUST WANT TO ADD THE WORDS RADIUS FROM THE PROPERTY LINE. ALL RIGHT SO THAT THAT YOUR MOTION TO ADD THE WORK UNLESS YOU WANT THAT'S FINE THAT IF WE DON'T HAVE A CONSENSUS AMONG TURNER AND GET THE MOST PLANNING COMMISSION ALL RIGHT SO THERE'S A CONSENSUS, I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE YES I AM YES. >> I THINK THE WORD RADIUS, YEAH. RIGHT YES FROM THE PROPERTY A PROPERTY RIGHT. COMMISSIONER LANGDON. >> I MEAN YES. >> THERE IS A YES, VICE MAYOR THERE'S YES COMMISSIONER >> YES, THAT YOU COULD THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> ALL >> OTHER ONE IS AND I KNOW WE SPOKE ABOUT THIS AT BUT I AM ♪ GOING TO GO BACK AND TRY AND GET A MOTION TO SEE WHERE IT LANDS ON REGARDING THE TREES ♪ PRIVATE PROPERTY RESIDENTIAL PRIVATE PROPERTY. >> THE CURRENT CODE THAT PROPOSAL. >> SAYS A MINIMUM 2 CANON TREES OR EQUIVALENT COMBINATION OF CANOPY IN UNDERSTORY TREES AND PALMS SHALLOW PLANTED OR PRESERVED FOR 7500 SQUARE FEET LOT AREA. AT LEAST ONE CANOPY OR THAT'S EQUIVALENT. BOB I SHALL PLANTED IN FRONT. GUYS I'VE TALK TO ENGINEERS, I'VE TALKED TO SEPTIC TANK PEOPLE I'VE TALKED TO ARE HARASSED EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM SAID YOU PLANT A TREE, ESPECIALLY A CANOPY TREE IN YOUR FRONT YARD THAT HAS A SEPTIC TANK YOU ARE GOING TO BE REPLACING THAT SEPTIC TANK BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO FAIL VERY QUICKLY BECAUSE OF THE ROOT SYSTEM COMMON SENSE TELLS ME THEY ARE CORRECT BECAUSE I SEE CANOPY TREES THAT A PULSE SIDEWALKS ROADS THAT BECOME TRIPPING HAZARDS OVER TIME. WE CANNOT SEE WHAT'S UNDERNEATH AND I AM SPEAKING FOR ALL SEPTIC TANK PEOPLE. IN THIS CITY. THEY'RE EXPENSIVE TO REPLACE. AND IT IT MAKES IT HARD WHEN IT'S BECAUSE OF TREE ROOTS MY FATHER WAS A PLUMBER. AND THE INFILTRATION OF THE TREE ROOTS INTO PIPING. NOT JUST SEPTIC TANKS PIPING IS TORIES I AM GOING TO PLEAD WITH YOU TO REMOVE THAT REQUIREMENT FOR PROPERTIES THAT HAVE A WITH A SEPTIC TANK. ARE THAT SR KNOW UP. >> I JUST WANT TO BE NEXT SO. COMMISSION AND DOLLS DON'T I'M GOING ENSURE THE DRESSING THAT THAT'S ITEM DO THAT YOU WANT TO YOU KNOW I SURE AM AND ADDRESS THAT. >> YOU READY FOR THAT. >> MISSION DOING ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT DONE I WILL BE HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION TO THAT. >> WELL, I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT AT WE WAIT HERE TO CAP THE TREES OR THE EQUIVALENT. A NATION OF IN UNDERSTORY TREES WHICH CAN ALSO BE. YOU HAVE TREES PEOPLE DO OF TREES IN THE FRONT YARD KNOW AND I TELL PEOPLE ELECTION. TREES AND SITE SELECTION VERY IMPORTANT 9 NOT STICK THAT TREE RIGHT BY YOUR SEPTIC TANK BUT OFF TO THE SIDE TOWARDS THE FRONT PEOPLE DONE THAT WE DO HAVE ON PEOPLE IN THE IN THE THAT HAVE MASSIVE OAK TREES THERE RIGHT YOU ARE, BUT NO THEY'RE NOT RIGHT BY THE SEPTIC TANK. AND THEY'RE AND THE THING IS WHAT I DO LIKE TO GET OUT, IS THAT IT DOES STAY OR THE EQUIVALENT. AT LEAST ONE KIND OF VICTORY OR THE EQUIVALENT OF UNDERSTORY TREES UNDERSTORY MEANS A SMALLER SIZE TREE SHELL BE PLANTED IN THE FRONT YARD. SO YOU'RE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TSAI. AGAIN WHEN PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT ARE LOSS OF OUR CANOPY BECAUSE WE SEE DEVELOPMENT LARGE-SCALE DEVELOPMENT GOING ON YES IT'S GOING ON. AND THAT'S A VERY IMPACTFUL THING TO SAY BECAUSE THEY'RE CLEARING ACRES AT THE TIME. HOWEVER IT THEY'RE PUTTING TREES BACK AND I I ALWAYS HAVE TO PUT IT BACK TO THE PEOPLE WHAT WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WHAT DO YOU AROUND YOUR UP AND SAY FOR THAT. AND UNFORTUNATELY PEOPLE DON'T HAVE HAVE A LOT OF OF MUCH I RIGHT AROUND ALL THE TIME MY BIKE AND TO SEE ART IF THE ARTIST YARD, EXPAND TOUGHNESS OF NOTHING AND THE FRONT DOOR. SO AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT PROBLEM IS THAT COMPANIES WILL THEY HAVE A FINANCIAL INTEREST AND THAT THEY'RE GOING TO TO TELL YOU THAT, BUT IT'S NOT IT'S NOT I YES DEFINITELY A 100% THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN. AGAIN PLACEMENT VERY VERY. IMPORTANT THERE OTHER PLACES THAT REQUIRE THIS AND I THINK WITH THAT. DISCUSSIONS BEFORE WITH ABOUT YES THERE TO HAVE A CODE THAT SAYS YOU CAN YOU CAN CLEAR CUT EVERYTHING AND NOT PUT ANYTHING BACK. WE USED TO HAVE CUTS THAT YOU SO MANY TREES BUT THAT WAS PART OF OUR TREE PERCENTAGE THAT WORK OUT BECAUSE COSTS ABOUT HAVE TO TREAT PLEASE GOING AROUND MAKING SURE DO HAVE THOSE TREES AND OF COURSE THEY DIDN'T. BUT AT LEAST IT WAS AN ATTEMPT TO TO GET PEOPLE TO PLANT. YOU KNOW MY VOTE'S GOING TO BE TO KEEP THIS IN HERE BECAUSE I THINK ITS VERY OWN THINKING AND DEFINITELY DRESSING THE CONCERN THAT PEOPLE HAVE ABOUT THE LOSS OF OUR OUR TRIP THINK AND WE HAVE MORE LAND AND THIS CUT IN THIS AND THIS CITY THAT IS QUARTER ACRE. FOR THE QUARTER ACRE. FAMILY HOME SAID ANYTHING ELSE AND THAT'S GOING TO BE THE BIGGEST IMPACT. THAT'S MY TAKE. >> AND COMMISSIONER LANGDON DO WANT TO ADDRESS NOW I'M GOING TO HOLD MY COMMENT HELP TO GO CLOSER THAT. >> I JUST WANT LET YOU KNOW WHAT I FEEL PRESENT AND FUTURE MCDONALD'S GOING MAKE AM. I JUST WANT I I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION RELATED TO A MAN. I KNOW WHEN PEOPLE WANT TO REMOVE TREES, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO GET A PERMIT AND THAT GIVES OUR ARBORISTS AND OPPORTUNITY. >> TO PERHAPS COACH THEM AND TO KEEPING A TRUE IF IT MAKES SENSE. >> AND THIS SITUATION THOUGH. >> IT IS THERE. >> YOU KNOW YOU MENTIONED SEVERAL TIMES MAYOR THAT LOCATION AND THE TYPE OF TREE THAT YOU SELECT OR BY THE WAY IMPORTANT IS IS THERE ANY OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR US TOO INTERJECT THEMSELVES INTO THAT PROCESS. MAYBE THAT'S MORE OF QUESTION FOR STAFF AND I DON'T WANT TO ADD COMPLEXITY IN PROCESS AND BURDEN ON TO THE HOMEOWNER. AHOY IF CAN HELP PEOPLE. DO THE RIGHT TREES AND PUT IT IN THE RIGHT PLACE THAT WOULD BE A WONDERFUL SON. >> GOOD POINT YEAH, SO SO WE CAN DO IN THE ABOUT SOMEONE WANTS TO REMOVE A TREE WHERE NOW REQUIRING A CERTIFICATE OF STONE IN COMPLIANCE. AND SO IN ADDITION TO THE ARBORS VISITING THE SITE AND TAKING A LOOK AT THE TREE AND SEEING IF THEY CAN GET SOME GUIDANCE TO HELP SAVE THE TREE. IF THE TREE IS REMOVED AND THE SITE ALSO BELOW THE MINIMUM TREE-PLANTING REQUIREMENTS AND THEY'LL NEED TO REPLACE THE TREE AND THAT GIVES THE ARBORIST AND OPPORTUNITY TO GUIDE THEM ARE COACHED THEM AS TOO. YOU KNOW RIGHT TREE RIGHT PLACE OR THE REPLACEMENT TREE THAT THEY MAY NEED TO INSTALL AND I KNOW OUR NATURAL RESOURCES STOP IS OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY. THEY'RE TALKING TO PEOPLE THERE PROVIDING INFORMATION ON A REGULAR BASIS AND TRYING TO GET THAT MESSAGE OUT THE RIGHT TREE RIGHT PLACE MESSAGE. SO I THINK THAT YOU KNOW. THE SIMPLE FACT THAT WE HAVE A NEW NATURAL RESOURCES DEPARTMENT IT'S GOING TO HELP IMPROVE EDUCATION IN THAT AREA ACROSS THE BOARD AND THEN ALSO A NEW REVIEW PROCESS SO THAT WE'RE MAKING GOOD DECISIONS ABOUT WHAT TREES ARE BEING REMOVED AND THE WHY BEHIND IT AND THEN ALSO PROVIDING FOR THAT REPLACEMENT TREE THE SITE DOESN'T NEED ANYMORE. I THINK WE'RE WERE LEAPS AND BOUNDS FROM WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU TO THEM. >> IS THAT A CONSENSUS FOR THAT THAT AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP YES AND I KNOW WE DO HAVE A WHOLE TREE LIST AND ARE SOMEWHERE BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY ADDRESS. >> WHERE THEY SHOULD BE PLANTED. IT YEAH, THE CUT. >> I CAN TELL YOU BECAUSE THE NATURAL RESOURCES DIVISION IS RIGHT OUTSIDE MY OFFICE STORE I HEAR EVERY DAY ALL DAY THEY HAVE ALREADY GOTTEN VERY INVOLVED WITH HOMEOWNERS PROPERTY OWNERS WHEN I'M BUILDERS ARE BUILDING A PROPERTY. THEY'RE GOING OUT THERE THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE TREES THERE THERE. >> IN SOME CASES THEY HAVE CALLED THAT. >> THE NOT THE BUILDER IT CALLED THE PERSON BUYING THE HOUSE HAVING HOUSE BUILT AND SAYING KNOW YOUR BUILDERS PROPOSING TO REMOVE ALL OF THESE TREES BUT HERE'S SOME SUGGESTIONS FOR YOU AND WE HAVE ALREADY STARTED SEEING THAT. >> THE PROGRESS OF. HOMEBUYERS SAYING I DIDN'T KNOW I COULD KEEP THOSE TREES AND THEY'RE TELLING THEIR BUILDER TO KEEP SO WE'RE SEEING THAT AND I THINK THAT AS WE CONTINUE THAT. MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE FAMILIAR WITH WHICH TREES CAN GO WHERE THEY'RE TALKING TO THEM SUCH NOT JUST CANOPY TREES BUT UNDERSTORY TREES TO BECAUSE THEY ALL PLAY A PART THEY'RE HELPING THEM UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY CAN PUT UNDERSTORY TREE SO WE'RE ALREADY HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS A LOT AND WE'RE GOING TO BE EVEN MORE INFORMATION OUT ACTIVELY AND AND THEY'RE GOING TO ALL OF OUR CITY EVENTS AND EVERYTHING. TO HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT WHITE TREE RIGHT PLACE MEANS I THINK WE'RE GOING SEE A LOT OF BENEFITS FROM WE'RE ALREADY SEEING SOME. I EXCITED TO SEE THE HOME BUYERS GO NICE AND THEY THEY ACTUALLY KEEP SOME OF THOSE TREES EVEN WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THEM WANTING TO RELOCATE. NATIVE PALMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT ON THEIR PROPERTY WHERE IF IF THEY CAN'T SAVE THEM IN THE LOCATION THAT DIRECTOR MOVING. >> I REALLY LIKE THAT EDUCATIONAL CONSULTATIVE APPROACH RATHER THAN HAVING PENALTIES YOU KNOW FOR PEOPLE I REALLY LIKE THAT APPROACH AND IT'S ALSO GOOD TO HEAR I THINK SOMETIMES WE FALL INTO THE TRAP OF THINKING THAT. PEOPLE DON'T WANT CITY INTERFERENCE AND WHAT THEY DO WITH THEIR PROPERTY. I THINK WE ALL HEAR THAT A LOT. BUT IF IT'S DONE IN THE RIGHT WAY AND PEOPLE AREN'T SEEING THE LINES AND AT THE END OF THE DAY THEY CAN REALLY DO WHAT THEY WANT. >> I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING AND I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THAT A LOT OF SOON-TO-BE RESIDENT OF NORTH PORT ARE WELCOMING THAT WHAT. >> AND THAT IT IS FACE OPTING IN TREES BEING SAY THAT THAT IS THE BEST ALTERNATIVE SO THANK YOU. >> ALL COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL >> I AM STAUNCHLY AGAINST REQUIRING >> THE POPE DOES NOT SEPARATE EXISTING HOMES FROM NEW HOMES. SO WHEN I READ CODE IS IT THE INTENT THAT NOW I AM GOING TO HAVE TO PLANT A TREE ON MY PROPERTY IN THE FRONT YARD. OR IS IT THE INTENT THAT IT'S ONLY NEW DEVELOPMENT. >> NOTHING AND THIS HIGHS TO EXISTING DEVELOPMENT THAT IS IN PLACE BEFORE THE ADOPTION AND EFFECTIVE DATE OF THIS COAT, SO EVEN. I UP PATIENTS THAT ARE IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW. WELL NOT THE SUBJECT TO THIS REQUIREMENT. >> BECAUSE I THE FIRST ONE THAT I GET A NOTICE THAT I'M IN NON-COMPLIANCE, I'M SENDING IT TO MISS LORY NO MATTER WHERE YOU AND I BUT THE OTHER THING I WANT THE SEPTIC TANK COMPANIES THAT I HAVE SPOKEN WITH HAVE ABSOLUTELY 0 FINANCIAL GAIN. AS A MATTER OF FACT THEY'RE GOING TO LOSE MONEY BECAUSE OF THEIR RECOMMENDATION TO NOT PLANT TREES. IF THEY WANTED TO HAVE FINANCIAL THE GAME THEY WOULD HAVE SAID YES PLANT ALL THE TREES BECAUSE WHAT FACING THE SEPTIC TANKS. AND YES YOU CANNOT SEE FROM MY FRONT YARD WHAT MY BACKYARD LOOKS LIKE JUST LIKE MY NEIGHBORS. MY BACKYARD HAS A TON OF TREASON ARE MY NEIGHBORS HAVE THE TIME THE TREES IN THE BACKYARD, SO YES, I AM COMPENSATING FOR THE FACT THAT I DON'T HAVE A TREE IN THE FRONT NEARBY SEPTIC TANK. SO WITH THAT SAID AND I KNOW NOT EVERYBODY IS EXACTLY LIKE ME OR LIKE YOU. BUT AT THE SAME TIME. THIS SEPTIC TANK IS WHAT IS THE PROBLEM AND YES IT WILL INFILTRATE NOBODY HAS BEEN ABLE TO CONVINCE ME THAT IS A NON-ISSUE AND MAYOR WITH ALL DUE RESPECT YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE THAT SAYS THAT IT'S NOT AN ISSUE. I WOULD MAKE A MOTION IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION BECAUSE I I'M JUST THAT STRONG MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT TO HAVE AT LEAST ONE TRUE IN THE FRONT YARD. THE TIME OF CO. AT THE TIME OF CO. WE'RE BASICALLY REMOVING THAT REQUIREMENT. ONE LEARN THE WHOLE THING. REMOVES THE REQUIREMENT TO HAVE THE TREES IN THE FRONT YARD PROPERTIES THAT SEND TEAMS. ALL RIGHT SO THAT'S THE ENTIRE JUST TRYING ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL MAKE SURE IT IS THE ENTIRE DOING. NO IT'S NOT IT'S NOT JUST 1 ONE PART THAT IS IN THE FRONT YARD RIGHT AT LEAST DO I WILL RESTATE MY MOTION. TO REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT TO HAVE AT LEAST ONE TREE IN THE FRONT YARD. WHEN THE PROPERTY IS CONNECT IS NOT CONNECTED TO THE CITY SEWER SYSTEM SHOULD JUST STICK WITH MY >> I MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL TO REMOVE FROM SECTION D AT LEAST ONE CANOPY TREE OR THE EQUIVALENT NUMBER UNDERSTORY TREES AND PALMS BE PLANTED IN THE FRONT DOOR WHEN THE HOUSE IS NOT CONNECTED TO THE CITY. SO >> SO IF YOU COULD JUST STICK WITH MY MOTION CLERK REPEATED. THANK YOU. >> TO WRITE A REQUIREMENT TO HAVE AT LEAST ONE TREE IN THE FRONT YARD ON THE PROPERTY IS NOT CONNECTED TO THE CITY SEWER SYSTEM. >> THANK YOU STAFF WILL HAVE TO ADJUST FOR SECOND READING. >> ALL RIGHT THAT'S THE MOTION. YOU'RE IN A SECOND. ALL RIGHT SO THAT MOTION FEEL THAT EXPENDED MY 5 MINUTES. YES, SORRY DIDN'T MEAN PUT MY TIME AROUND YOU GOT A FREE PASS DOWN. BUT THAT'S GOOD DISCUSSIONS. >> I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ELSE PICK YOU, BUT I DID I HAD SOME QUESTIONS COMMISSIONER AVERAGE YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. >> NO MA'AM. >> THAT NOT QUESTION SO MUCH HAVE ABOUT GOING BACK TO THAT ONE THAT WE JUST. DIDN'T PASS THE NORTH UP MOTION FOR BUT WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING THE ARBORISTS TALK WITH BUILDERS IS THERE ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO BE ACTUALLY BUT THAT'S GOING TO PART OF THE BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW THEY HAVE THAT THAT OPTION. >> AND IF YOU DON'T GIVE THEM THAT OPTION THEY CUT ME TO THE FACT WE DON'T KNOW YOU KNOW THEY JUST SAID WE HAD TO DO THIS SO THAT ME. >> AND GREAT EVENTS LEE INTO THAT PLAN DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. >> IT'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTION AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE STAFF IS ALREADY DOING AND WILL CONTINUE TO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO >> IT WOULD BE IT WOULD BE LIKE CALL THE PLANNING AND ZONING STAFF. WELL COLLABORATE WITH PROPERTY OWNERS TO FACILITATE THE APPROPRIATE ZONING DISTRICT OR THEIR PROPERTY. ORWELL. GIVE DIRECTION ON HOW TO MAKE THEIR DESIGN COMPLY WITH BUILDING DESIGN STANDARD. SO YOU KNOW OUR STAFF IS DOING OUT THEY'LL CONTINUE TO DO SURE WHAT I KNOW WHEN WHEN THIS NEW COMES OUT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING A LOT OF AND KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS PARTICULAR PROVISION IS NOT. AFFECTIVE. TECHNICALLY UNTIL JULY FIRST 2027. SO WE HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY AND STRIVE FOR VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN WE CAN MAKE COMPLIANCE I GUESS I WAS GETTING AT WHEN WHEN THE BUILDERS ARE THEY'RE THE ONES FOOTING AND THE IS THERE GOING TO BE ANY CONVERSATION ABOUT THE RIGHT TREE IN THE RIGHT PLACE OR JUST LET THEM GO ALREADY IS BECAUSE WE GO. >> WHENEVER WE GO OUT THERE WE WE LOOK AT EVERYTHING WHAT WE LOOK AT. YOU HAVE TO SEE WHAT'S THERE AND OUR ARBORISTS ARE FOLLOWING THAT THROUGH THE PROCESS SO THERE WILL BE DISCUSSION WITH THEM ON. >> THE RIGHT TREES, THERE'S THERE ALSO. OUR STAFF HAS ALREADY PUT SOME INFORMATION TOGETHER PUTTING MORE INFORMATION TOGETHER ON CHOOSING RIGHT INCLUDING PER SEPTIC AREAS. PRESENCE HOMES ARE BETTER APPROACH OR UNDERSTORY TREES. THAT DON'T HAVE THE EXTENSIVE ROOT SYSTEMS. ANYONE NEAR SEPTIC. SO THEY'RE ALREADY PUTTING INFORMATION TO PROVIDE THAT TO THE BUILDERS. AND THE HOMEOWNERS AND OUR SOME OF THE HOMEOWNERS HAVE BECOME MY BEST ARE SOME HOME BUYERS ARE BECOMING OUR BEST ADVOCATES WITH BUILDERS TO SAVE TREES ARE TO TO PLANT CERTAIN TYPES RICE OKAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> AND JUST LAST JUST A COMMENT ABOUT READING THIS CORRECTLY THESE DIAGRAMS ON THE PROTECTION ZONE, IT DOES GO OUT TO THE DRIP LINE HOURS BEFORE DIDN'T CORRECT CORRECT OKAY. SUCH A GREAT IMPROVEMENT AND I. SO WHEN SEE THOSE LITTLE BOXES AROUND YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT RIGHT YEAH, NO MA'AM OUR STAFF IS ALREADY WORKING ** GETTING BETTER PROTECTED SOUNDS OUTSIDE OF THE CODE PROVISIONS BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GOING TO TRY TO SAY THAT RIHANNA TIED RIGHT NOT GO THROUGH THE MOTIONS AND HAVE THAT READ YEAR LATER IS EVER THAT LITERALLY FOR DECADES THAT WE TRY TO SAY THAT REAGAN THING DID IS NOT HEADED DOWN, BUT YOU DIDN'T REALLY DO WHAT YOU HAD TO DO TO SAY THAT RACE I APPRECIATE >> COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. >> ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR. I I JUST ABOUT. YEAH IN GENERAL NOT ABOUT GOING TO BE HAPPY HEAR TAKE AWAY YOUR TREES, I KNOW THIS IS NOT TREE BUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE ACTIVITIES THAT ARE 6 SOUTH OF I 75 AMENDMENT WORTH COMP PLAN AND BOTH. >> WITHOUT THERE IS THAT UNDER THE ZONING DISTRICT DESCRIPTIONS CHAPTER. >> 3. >> THE MAP THAT'S INCORPORATED AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AIR AS WELL ALL LEST OF THE BLOCKS AND ENGULFED FAMILY IS GOING TO BE ALLOWABLE AND THEY SEX OKAY. >> AS I THINK WE HAD PUBLIC COMMENTER WHO REFERRING TO THAT THAT WE DID OR NOW THAT I'M SO SO. >> I KNOW ONLY GOING TO WANT TO FOLLOW >> WE HAVE SEVERAL PROPERTY OWNERS AND AREA OF ACTIVITY SOME RESPECTS THAT ARE WAITING FOR THEIR BUILDING OR METS TO ISSUE. SO WE CAN'T DO THAT AND TELL. PLAN IS THE FACT WE HAD A 31 DAYS BEFORE IT COMES ACTIVE AND THAT THE ULDC BECOMES EFFECTIVE ALLOWING THOSE HOMES THERE. BUT THEY ALL QUESTION WE HAVE AND WE DO NEED FOLLOW WITH HIM IS IF HE IS AND NOT AREA OF THE CITY COMMISSION AUTHORIZED SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES. IF THE PROPERTY IS GRAPHIC OUT GREAT. IT'S AFTER OCTOBER 28. WE DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY WAY PART OF AND ALLOW THOSE GO THROUGH UNTIL OF COMP PLAN AND THE ULDC ACTIVE. THE PROPERTY IS OUTSIDE THAT AREA WHERE THE COMMISSION DIRECTED US ALLOW AND I'M ALLOWED A SINGLE FAMILY. SITUATION IS DIFFERENT SO WE'LL DEFINITELY WANT TO FALL WITH HIM WE CAN GET A BETTER PICTURE OF WHERE HIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED. THANK YOU WANT SOME CLARITY >> FUTURE PEOPLE THAT HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT SO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ALL RIGHT AND THAT'S IT THAT'S IT FROM A COMMISSIONER AVERAGE. ANYTHING. >> NO MA'AM LIGHTNING AND THUNDER AND OVER WERE ON THAT IF YOU MAY ALL GET BACK ON THE WAS LIKE HIM. HAD LET YOU KNOW IT'S STORMING BAD OVER THERE. >> OVER UP HERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT HERE, I'M SORRY GO AHEAD. THAT'S A FEW MORE OKAY, THEY ARE YOUR NAME RIGHT CONDITIONS >> SO YOU'LL RECALL THAT WE HAD A LARGE DISCUSSION ABOUT WAIVERS AND VARIANCES MODIFICATIONS. AND HOW THERE WAS A MINOR VARIANCE THAT STAFF GETS TO APPROVE MAJOR VARIANCES ZONING HEARING OFFICER WOULD BE APPROVING. >> AND WE >> INTENSE CONVERSATION ABOUT. COMMISSION'S ROLE TO APPROVE THESE MODIFICATIONS AND WAIVERS FROM THE CODE. AND I KEPT GOING BACK TO THE SAME QUESTION AND HOPEFULLY STAFF WILL BE ABLE TO ANSWER ME BECAUSE I COULDN'T FIND IT IN THE DEFINITIONS. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A VARIANCE. A WAIVER AND A MODIFICATION. BECAUSE ALL 3 TERMS ARE USED IN THIS CODE. ♪ ♪ THE ONLY TERM THAT DEFINED IS A VARIANCE. SO YOU COULD PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND THOSE DIFFERENCES THAT WILL HELP ME BE ABLE TO MOVE THROUGH THE NEXT PART OF MY DISCUSSION POINTS. >> A VARIANCE IS A REQUEST TO DEPART FROM STANDARDS AND THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. >> MOST OF THE TIME THOSE VARIANCE REQUESTS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES BUT THEY ARE NOT LIMITED TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. >> THEIR REQUEST IS AND A SIDE PROCEED IN WHERE THERE ARE STRICT CRITERIA THAT MUST BE MET. >> AND ORDER OR THE ZONING HEARING OFFICER TO GRANT A VARIANCE IF THE REQUEST AND AND THE PROPERTY TO NOT MEET ALL OF THOSE STRICT CRITERIA. THE VARIANCE MAY NOT BE GRANT. A WAIVER. AUTHORIZED. >> THE CITY COMMISSION. >> THROUGH THE MASTER CONCEPT PLAN MASTER CONCEPT PLAN AS A PUBLIC HEARING PAUSE I DO'S UP PUBLIC HEARING THAT COMES TO YOU. THE WAIVER DOES NOT HAVE ANY SKIRT STRETCH CRITERIA, WHATSOEVER. COMMISSION CAN JUST SAY WHAT DO WE THINK THAT THIS IS A GOOD PROJECT SO WE'RE GOING TO GRANT THE WAIVER. STAFF WILL STILL DO THEIR JOB AND THEY ALL. IT CLEARED AND THEIR STAFF NOW SAYS. WHETHER THEY THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE ANY DETRIMENTAL EFFECTS. WHETHER THERE OFFSETTING MEDICATION THAT MAYBE SHOULD BE INCORPORATED TO MINIMIZE THAT AS A FACT THERE'S NO STRICT CRITERIA THAT MUST BE >> MODIFICATION IF THE TERM THAT'S USED IN THE CURRENT CODE OR DEPARTURES OF THE CODE. THERE IS NO APPLICATION PROCESS FOR A MODIFICATION UNDER A DRAFT CODE, THE ONLY PLACE BUT IT IS SPECIFICALLY USED FAR DEPARTURE FROM PROBABLY AND BUY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IS UNDER. THE. SECTION 3.8. I REGARDING MODIFICATIONS. >> TO ELIMINATE THE SUBSTANTIAL BURDEN ON RELIGIOUS EXERCISE. AND THAT IT INCORPORATED THE CAUSE. A COURT CASE THE FEDERAL RELIGIOUS LAND USE AND INSTITUTIONALIZED PERSONS ACT OF THAT REQUIRES US TO PROVIDE. FRONTLINE CONSIDERATION OF MODIFICATIONS TO ALLOW FREE. RELIGIOUS ACTIVITIES. REALLY WHAT IT COMES DOWN BEST FOR CRITERIA AND MOST PROPERTIES. A UNIQUE CONDITION. THEY DO THAT THEY THEY'RE USUALLY A SELF-CREATED ISSUE. CONTRACTOR CREATED ISSUE. IT'S USUALLY IT IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE BASED ECONOMIC HARDSHIP. MOST OF THE TIME THE REQUESTS ARE BASED ON ECONOMIC HARDSHIP. SO QUOTE A VARIANCE AND OFFICE A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, YES, CUT. THE ALLOWANCE UNDER THE MINER VARIANCES ARE MINIMAL. MOST OF THE TIME WHEN WE HAVE A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY COMING FORWARD IN THEIR REQUEST AND DEPARTURES FROM THE CODE THEY HAVE MULTIPLE. REQUESTS TO MODIFY THE CODE UNDER THE CURRENT CODE OR. WAIVE THE CODE UNDER THE PROPOSED ULDC. SO I HOPE THAT HELPS CLARIFY. >> THAT >> MIGHT WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK BECAUSE I THOUGHT I SOME MODIFICATIONS ALSO IN HAVING TO DO WITH WHAT AND STORMWATER TERMS HAVE BEEN USED INTERCHANGEABLY THAT MAYBE MY BRING WAS INTERCHANGE IN TOO. >> I AGAIN. >> BASED ON THE CONVERSATION THAT I HEARD THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE REWRITE. >> THERE WERE SOME COMMISSIONERS THAT WERE MEANINGFUL TO REQUIRING THE COMMISSION. YOU KNOW WHERE THE LEGISLATORS AND WE WE MAKE THE CO. AND IN MY OPINION WE SHOULD BE THE ONLY ONES TOO LOW TO ABSOLVE HOME INSURANCE NOT STAFF. NOT A ZONING HEARING OFFICER. WHEN WE HEAR THAT. TOO OFTEN WE HAD TOO MANY WE HAVE A LOT OF WE NEED A WAIVER FROM THE CODE FOR WILL WE KNEW WE HAD TO FIX THE LIGHTNING COLD IN THAT WAS SOMETHING WE ARE WORKING TOWARD SO WE KNEW THAT WE WERE JUST GOING TO BE APPROVING ANYTHING THAT WAS RELATED TO THAT KIND OF A WAIVER OF THE CODE. APPROVE THEM IN THE PAST AND IT WORKED AND IT'S IT'S OUR JOB. AND I JUST. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE CONSISTENTLY SEEM TO BE WANTING TO GIVE OUR AUTHORITY AND OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO STAFF OR 2. HEARING OFFICERS OR WHEREVER. >> I EVEN REMEMBER SAYING I CAN COMPROMISE AND SAY HEY THOSE MINOR ONES ABSOLUTELY YOU KNOW A MINOR VARIATION FOR FOR THE BUILDING HEIGHT WITH MAXIMUMS ARE THE DUMPSTER AND CLOSURES AND AND SETBACKS OKAY FINE. IT'S A MINOR MARION'S AND STAFF CAN DO THAT. BUT WE THE COMMISSION SHOULD BE APPROVING ANYTHING ELSE ABOVE THAT. >> REQUIREMENT. >> OF THE MINIMUM VARIANCE IS AND TO HAVE A GO TO THIS ZONING HEARING OFFICER. ♪ ♪ IT JUST DOESN'T WELL WITH AND I REALLY BELIEVE THAT THIS IS PART OF OUR JOB IT DOESN'T CHANGE ANYTHING EXCEPT WE ARE THE ONES SAYING YES OR NOW WE ARE ELECTED ONCE AND YES WE CAN SAY NO. >> AS AS THERE'S CRITERIA RISEN CRITERIA. >> BUT THAT'S OUR WORLD SO I. >> I KNOW IS KIND OF A 5050. >> KIND OF PROPOSITION IN PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS AND I WANTED TO REVISIT AND SEE ABOUT GETTING A MOTION. SO I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO WEIGH IN ON THAT TOPIC. AND ACTUALLY WAS A 2 TO 3. I HAVE IT DOWN HERE. TO OR 3 TO 2 ALSO SOMEWHERE TO I HAVE IT HERE 3 DIDN'T GO FOR IT SO IT'S UP TO YOU, >> I WAS IMPRESSED WITH. >> YES MISS BARNES THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR I JUST WANT ADD SOME CLARITY PARTLY THIS ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS HEARS ALL VARIANTS UP NATIONS. I'M NOT ALREADY GRANTED TO COMMISSION AND THE PAST. I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYONE WHO IS. A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME HAS ANY OTHER INFORMATION BUT. ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS AND THE ZONING HEARING OFFICER ESPECIALLY THE HEARING OFFICERS USED HAVE OUR TIME TO TURN A RETIRED JOBS. SO THEIR SCRUTINY WAS STRICT CRITERIA. IS USUALLY WELL ON THE CITY COMMISSION THOUGHTS REVIEW AND APPROVE. THANKS KAY SHUNS SOMETIMES THOSE HAVE A COMPANION VARIANCE APPLICATION BUT THE VACATIONS ONTO CITY COMMISSION BECAUSE THERE'S NOW THAT THERE'S NO ALTERNATIVE. THE FLORIDA STATUTES REQUIRE THAT THE GOVERNING BODY APPROVED EDUCATIONS EASEMENTS SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE VARIANCE IN THE VACATION AND THE REASONING BEHIND THE ZBA APPROVING OR THE DOWN AND HEARING OFFICER PROVING >> OKAY SO WITHOUT WANT TO MAKE A MOTION. >> YEAH, I WANT I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION. TO REQUIRE COMMISSION. >> TO APPROVE. >> THE VARIANCES. ♪ ♪ >> VARIANCE ABOVE THE MINOR ♪ VARIANCE THAT'S ON PAGE 40 IT'S LISTED ON PAGE 40. >> ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL FOR THE COMMISSION TO APPROVE. ANY VARIANCE. ♪ ♪ AND THAT'S MISSION. >> THE DOW IS A OF MINOR VARIANCES ON PAGE 40 RIGHT. THAT IS THE MOTION. DID YOU GET THAT CITY CLERK. I HAVE A SECOND. NOT HEARING A SECOND. SO MOTION. THEY'LL SELECT SECOND. ♪ >> COMMISSIONER ♪ >> ARE THERE PLANS TO DEFINE WAIVER AND MODIFICATION AND THE DEFINITIONS. MAKE A MOTION THAT STAFF IS TO DEFINE MODIFICATION AND WAIVER IN THE DEFINITION SECTION. FIND MODIFICATION DEFINED MODIFICATION AND TO FIND THE WORD WAIVER IN THE LIST OF DEFINITIONS. ♪ ♪ GETTING WHAT ACTUALLY CONSTITUTES A MODIFICATION WHAT CONSTITUTES A WAIVER. WE CAN USE. >> ALL RIGHT SO IT'S MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL THEY HAVE THAT WANT TO BACK. ALL RIGHT THAT'S THE MOTION TO I HAVE A. SECOND FOR THAT. >> SECOND MISTER DISCUSSION. THEY TEND THAT DISCUSSION IS REAL SHORT SWEET I REASON FOR IT. >> ALL RIGHT SO WHAT WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND SO WE WILL. >> TAKE A VOICE VOTE ON THAT MOTION. VICE MAYOR. NOW LANGDON NO I DON'T. YES. COMMISSIONER AVERAGE YOU THERE. ♪ >> CHANNING HARM IN IT ♪ >> I WOULD. YES. >> WELL YOUR VOTING TELL YOU A YES. >> I MEAN, YES DON'T SEE AND WOULD HAVE BEEN MEANT. >> NOW OKAY. ♪ ♪ >> THAT. AND ALSO TO ♪ ♪ YES, >> THE FLIP OVER TO 71, SINCE I SEE NO OTHER LIGHTS ON ALL JUST CONJECTURE ON YOU WANT WEIGH IN ON ANYTHING JUST STOPPED ME PLEASE OK. PAGE 71 WE'RE TALKING >> THE CORRIDOR DISTRICTS HORIZONTAL DEVELOPMENT. >> IT IS. RESIDENTIAL USE MAY NOT EXCEED IT MAY NOT EXCEED 65% OF FAR. AGAIN THAT MAY VERSUS SHAO. RESIDENTIAL YOU SHALL NOT EXCEED THIS WAY IF THEY WANT TO COME. AND HAVING HIGHER THAN 65% I WOULD ASSUME THE COMES TO COMMISSION MAYBE GOES TO THE VARIANCE HEARING THE ZONING HEARING OFFICER KNOWS AT THIS POINT. ♪ ♪ BUT I THINK IT SHOULD BE CHANGED TO SHELL. >> WE USE THE WORD MAY AIR BECAUSE THE ALLOWANCES AND THE COMPREHENSIVE ARE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT WHICH GIVES THE >> LED THE TO OF THROUGH WAIVERS TO THAT OUR VISION OF THE ULDC. >> SAYS AND IT SHALL. >> AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPROVE A WAIVER TO ALLOW 70%. RESIDENTIAL IS KONG. SO WE WE DO YOU PREFER THAT IT REMAINS MAY. AGAIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS AN ALLOWANCE THAT THE COMMISSION COULD REAL APPROVE UP TO 75% RESIDENTIAL PERCENTAGE ON THE MIXED USE PROJECTS. >> AND THAT SAME PAGE. THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION STUFF. >> ON PAGE 71. WE'RE TALKING RESIDENTIAL PERMITS FOR MULTIPLE BUILDINGS. CORPS ON AND THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE INTERNAL CONNECTIVITY. I AM. I WANTED TO BRING TO THE ATTENTION AND MAYBE STAFF CAN HELP >> IS THIS SO THE DEVELOPMENT COMES FORWARD AND THEY HAVE MULTIPLE BUILDINGS THAT HAVE TO BE INTEGRATED CONNECTIVITY CAN THEY SAY HEY WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS IS PART OF THE BUILDING NOW THIS RESIDENTIAL IN THIS RESIDENTIAL HIM IN THE FUTURE WE'RE GOING TO DO THE COMMERCIAL OR IS IT HAVE TO BE DONE ALL AT ONCE BECAUSE THAT IS NOT VERY CLEAR IN THE CODE. >> I HAD THAT ARTICLE MAKES USE OF ARTS GOING TO HAPPEN ALL WALKS OF COURSE HAVE TALKING WHITE SOX HOME NEXT YEAR IS IS GOING TO THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER THAT GETS ISSUE OR A CAR MIXED USE PROJECT. WELL AND CORPORATE AND I ARE SANTEL MIXED USE PROJECT INCLUDING. 250,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL. THINGS SPACE. 100 RESIDENTIAL UNITS THEIR DEVELOPMENT ORDER OR A YEAR. THEY DO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXTEND THEIR DEVELOPMENT ORDER. IF THERE COMES A TIME THAT THEY EITHER. DON'T MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT ORDER WHICH HAS A MIXED USE. ARE ALLOWED PRESS EXPIRED WITHOUT CONSTRUCTING THE NON-RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT AND THEY'LL BE SUBJECT ENFORCEMENT. >> WE WE. >> DO NOT RECOMMEND INCORPORATING. >> HARD AND FAST TIME FRAME IN WHICH WAS DEVELOPMENTS NEED TO OCCUR. BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE DON'T WANT. WE DON'T WANT THE DEVELOPMENT 2 AND CLEARED. NON-RESIDENTIAL OUT PARCELS THAT LIE FALLOW FOR YEARS. >> AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M BRINGING THIS UP BECAUSE I'VE SEEN TOO OFTEN WHERE THEY SAY WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS AND THIS AND THIS AND ALL THEY DO IS THE RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE MONEY IS AND THEN THEY SIT AND WAIT AND THEY HAVEN'T PAD READY FOR COMMERCIAL WE JUST APPROVED ONE DOWN POCATELLO. WHO KNOWS WHEN THAT COMMERCIAL COMPONENT EVER BEEN TO GET BUILT AND I REALLY THINK THAT WE NEED TO STRICTLY STATE THAT THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE FACED THAT IT HAS TO BE DEVELOPED ALL AT THE SAME TIME HORIZONTALLY REGARDLESS OF HOW MANY INDIVIDUAL BUILDINGS THERE ARE THAT ARE CONNECTED. IT HAS TO BE ONE DEVELOPMENT THAT GETS DEVELOPED ALL AT THE SAME TIME. >> I WE WANT THE COMMISSION HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE A PHASED DEVELOPMENT HAVE A 300 ACRE NEXT HORIZONTAL MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. HOW COME MY MANDATE THAT THEY BUILT IT ALL AT LOTS. THEY MIGHT HAVE 3 OR 4 PHASES AND THAT PLAN WOULD BE APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION ASKED OR CONCEPT PLAN. YOU KNOW I UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE TO HA MOORE SPECIFICITY AND MORE TEETH BUT IF WE HAVE DEVELOPMENT MIXED USE PROJECT THAT'S ISSUED. THEY DON'T BUILD A MIXED USE. WE CAN PROGRESS WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT THEY CAN BE SUBJECT TO FINES LIENS FOR NON-COMPLIANCE OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT ORDER AND SENDS IT IT'S NOT A HOMESTEAD PROPERTY. I COULD BE SUBJECT TO FORECLOSURE AND THAT THE SENATE COULD SOMEHOW TAKE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THOSE PROPERTIES. SO YOU KNOW I I THINK THAT WE'VE MADE THE SITUATION WITH WHAT WE'VE INCORPORATED HERE WITHOUT WITHOUT GOING TO THE EXTENT THAT WE MIGHT ACTUALLY DISCOURAGE ANY DEVELOPMENT TO OCCUR. >> AT I'VE WORKED ON SOME OF THE NATION'S LARGEST MIXED USE PROJECTS. HERE BUT IN ANOTHER STATE. >> AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THEY NEVER WOULD HAVE HAPPENED AND THEY NEVER WOULD HAPPEN IF THEY COULDN'T BE. >> I THAT IS SIMPLY THE WAY LARGE PROJECTS HAPPEN. IF WE REQUIRE. THEM TO BE BUILT ALL AT ONE TIME IT WILL SIMPLY MEAN THAT WE WILL NOT GET ANY DEVELOPMENT. ♪ SO AS THE BOLD YES, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT THAT THE PROJECTS THAT I WORKED ON AND THESE ARE LARGE PROJECTS. I MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF SQUARE FEET. THEY SIMPLY WOULD NOT HAPPEN IF THE PROJECTS COULD BE FACED. IT'S JUST THE ECONOMICS OF IT. IT IT SIMPLY THERE'S NO OTHER WAY TO POLITICS. >> I UNDERSTAND THE ECONOMICS OF IT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME THE PURPOSE OF REZONING OUR CITY, ESPECIALLY IN THESE CORRIDOR AREAS IS TO HAVE NON-RESIDENTIAL. >> AND IF THEY HAVE A DEVELOPMENT AND ALL THEIR ONLY HAVE TO DO IS START DEVELOPING AND BUILD THAT COME AND THAT NON SORRY ALL THEY HAVE TO DO START BUILDING RESIDENTIAL AND THEN PAUSED THE COMMERCIAL HOW'S THAT WORKING FOR I THINK I THINK THIS BARNES HAS LAID OUT HOW THAT WORKS AND IF THERE IS A PROCESS FOR THAT. AND WHETHER YOU AGREE WITH IT OR NOT THERE'S A PROCESS FOR THAT AND. BUT. >> SPEAKING FROM EXPERIENCE. DEALING WITH THESE TYPES OF MIXED USE PROJECTS. >> IF YOU. >> REQUIRE BUT THEY BUILT ALL AT ONE TIME WE SIMPLY WON'T HAVE ANY. AND THAT'S THE REALITY INDUSTRY. >> SO CAN WE FIND A COMPROMISE THAT ON THE PARCELS THAT ARE 5 ACRES OR LESS THEY HAVE TO DO IT ALL AT ONE TIME AND THEN THOSE PARCELS THAT ARE 5 ACRES OR MORE THEY CAN DO IT FACED. SO THAT WE THEN THINK GOING OUT RESIDENTIAL BUILT AT THE SAME TIME I THINK PULLING OUT OF ARBITRARY. CRUNCH. >> NOT >> VERY FEASIBLE I THINK THE WAY THAT WE HAVE THIS STRUCTURE. IS ONE OF THE BETTER WAYS TO DO I HAVE SEEN. TRIGGERS WHERE YOU CAN'T GET A C A R YOU CAN'T GET IN AN OCCUPANCY, YOU KNOW FOR AFTER THE CERTAIN CERTAIN UNIT UNLESS YOU BUILT A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE. >> HOWEVER I WILL TELL YOU THAT THAT HAS IN IN MY PAST EXPERIENCE ALSO HINDERED DEVELOPMENT TO WHERE THE PROJECT JUST STOPS I HAVE SEEN MIXED USE PROJECTS. ABANDONED. HOTEL HOTELS THAT THE STRUCTURES WERE BUILT AND APARTMENTS WHERE THE STRUCTURES WERE BUILT AND THEN THEY WERE ABANDONED BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T DO IT ALL AT ONE TIME. I'M SORRY THEY COULDN'T FACE IT AND THEY COULDN'T MEET THE THE TRIGGERS AND SO THEY JUST ABANDONED THE PROJECT AND I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO SEE ABANDONED PRODUCTS EITHER. YOU WE WE RUN INTO A LOT OF ISSUES WHEN WE START PUTTING THOSE HARD TRIGGERS AND THE. AND PROHIBITING PHASING I'M IN COMPLETE AGREEMENT WITH THE WITH THE PURPOSE ABSOLUTELY. SEEN IT HAPPEN TOO MANY TIMES AND IF YOU TALK TO ANYONE IN THE MIXED USE INDUSTRY. THEY WILL TELL YOU THAT THE PROJECTS HAVE TO BE FACED THERE'S NO OTHER WAY TO DO IT. >> OKAY YOU WANT WHEN YOU WANT TO DO. >> NOT GOING GETTING SUPPORT MY BIRTH. ON PAGE 37. AS A REMINDER, THE MASTER CONCEPT PLAN IS THE SAME THING IS WHAT WE CALL TODAY DMP. >> IT'S SIMILAR. THE MASTER CONCEPT MP IS THAT YOU SEE TODAY AND REALLY ASIDE FROM A SARASOTA MEMORIAL HOSPITAL WHICH YOU TALKED TO THAT ARE GENERALLY THE MP MORE DETAILS. MASTER CONCEPT PLAN ALLOWS FOR A LITTLE BIT LESS DETAIL SOME CASES IT CAN BE A POSSIBLE PLAN. WE'RE NOT EXPECTING A MASTER CONCEPT PLAN TO SHOW WHERE ALL PERCENT GOING TO BE AND WHAT SIZE IS YOUR WE WANT YOUR GENERAL USE AREAS, YOU'RE OPEN-SPACE AREAS. WEAR YOUR MAJOR ROADWAY NETWORKS ARE GOING TO BE A AND YOUR MAJOR WATER AND SEWER. LINES AND. THAT IS GENERAL CONCEPT. UNDER THE MASTER CONCEPT PLAN SOME TIME. ALL THAT'S HAPPENED. A TURN AND THE LEVEL 2 PER EYE. THE SIGNIFICANT DETAIL THAT WE ASKED OUR UNDER OUR DEVELOPMENT MASTER PLAN. WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN THEY GET A NEXT STEP IN THE PROCESS THEY FIND THAT THEY HAVE TO ADJUST SOMETHING AND THEN THAT WANT THEM UP MY MASTER PLAN BECAUSE IT HAS NOT CONSISTENT WHEN THERE ARE MORE REFINED SITE PLAN SO WE WANT AVOID. APPLICANTS FROM HAVING TO COME BACK FROM ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS AND LOSE 4 TO 6 MONTHS AND THE PROCESS BECAUSE ASKED FOR CONCEPT PLAN THAT REALLY AS MORE MORE OUTSIDE PLAN. I WANT THEN AN INDUSTRY STANDARD EXCEPT IT ON PLAN LEVEL OF DETAIL. ALL RIGHT SOME HAS DEVELOPMENT MASTER PLAN YOU OFTEN APPROVED WAIVERS ON OCCASIONS UNDER THE CURRENT CODE AND CONCEPT PLANS YOU'LL BE ABLE TO APPROVE WAIVERS YOU MIGHT SEE A LITTLE LY LAST DETAIL ON THOSE AND YOU'RE USED TO UNDER A MASTER PLAN. AND AGAIN THERE IS A REASON FOR THAT. A REASON FOR THAT IS MAN'S. REALLY NOT THAT NOT TO THE LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT YOU SEE IN YOUR DEVELOPMENT MASTER AND WHAT HAPPENS. IT HAPPENS REGULARLY. WELL I WILL PREPARE ON PLAN OR ON A PLAN, THE CATS OR THE KIND OF ALL. AND THEN WHEN THEY GET YOU THERE SUBDIVISION OR SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN THEY'VE GOT TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS AND THEY'RE NOT THE SAME AS WHAT THEY SHOWED ON THERE. ALL MASTER SO THAT THEY HAVE TO COME BACK OR NOT A PUBLIC HEARING. X 7 TIMELINE OF THE PROJECT 4 TO 6 MONTHS BECAUSE OF PUBLIC HEARING. WHY AM JUST AND A MINOR CHEF. AND THE THE AND THE THE. WE DON'T WANT HAVE OUR THE DOW UP 1 ONE. A MINOR ADJUSTMENT RETAIL WAS DOWN ON THE COST AND WHAT CAME BEFORE YOU. >> SO THE PROCESS IS THE COMMISSION APPROVES THE CONCEPT PLAN AND THEN STAFF. WHERE DOES THE ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL SITTING INTO ALL OF THIS PROCESS >> SO IT'S IT'S PROJECT REQUIRES MASKS FOR CONCEPT PLAN BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE PROJECT HORIZONTAL MIXED USE FOR EXAMPLE OR THEY NEED A SPECIAL EXCEPTION OR THEY WANT WAIVERS. THEY DO A MASTER CONCEPT PLAN. THAT COMES BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION. THE CITY COMMISSION THAT'S THE GENERAL LABOR OF THE PROJECT AND WHERE EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE LOCATED ON THE SITE AND THE BACKUP DOCUMENTATION AND JUST HAITIAN FOR THE WAIVER REQUEST. AND THE STAFF ANALYSIS AND THEN YOU ARE CORRECT THAT. IF YOU ARE ABOUT THE COMMENT FURTHER SITE DEVELOPMENT AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND WHERE ALL THE. ULDC DESIGN STANDARDS SETBACKS STORM WATER REQUIREMENTS LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION REQUIREMENTS FOR ALL TECHNICAL REVIEW BY THE CITY. ALL OF THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS. >> WHEN IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING TAKE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING TAKES PLACE PRIOR TO. >> HIRED THERE'S A PUBLIC HEARING REQUIRE. I HAD TO THE PUBLIC HEARING. IT WAS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR RESIGNING AND THEY DON'T HAVE A CONCEPT PLAN TO SHOW THEM THEY BUY DO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING NOW THE TO DO IT AGAIN. BEFORE THEIR PARLIAMENT, OUR SUBDIVISION POT AND THEIR OR THEIR DEVELOPMENT AND INFRASTRUCTURE. IF THAT'S ANY SITE DEVELOPMENT INFRASTRUCTURE WHICH IS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW. THEY APPLY. THEY GOT ONE ROUND OF COMMENTS FROM THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE. THAT'S WHAT THEY NEED TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS FOR CODE COMPLIANCE ISSUES. THEY CAN DO THAT BEFORE THEY PRESENT IT YOU ONE OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVED PROJECTS OF AMENDMENT OR STRUCTURE THEY SAID MATT. THERE'S ONE LEVEL OF STAFF ARE YOU ONE ROUND OF STAFF REVIEW THAT MAY HAVE BEEN ABLE >> SOUNDS LIKE YOU NEED A FLOWCHART HERE SO THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHERE EVERYTHING GOES BECAUSE YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE I'M SURE MISSILE LANDED UNDERSTANDS WHERE THIS LOOKS LIKE. BUT FOR OTHERS THE DEVELOPERS, THE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE DOES IT FIT IS IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO UNDERSTAND TOO. AND THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THESE THING THAT I AM. SITE DEVELOPMENT IS THE ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL. >> CORRECT IT'S CALLED SITE DEVELOPMENT AND INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN. >> SO WHEN DOES THE CITIZENS IF THEY DON'T WANT TO APPEAL HAD THAT WHERE DOES THAT FIT IN THIS FLOW CHART. >> ISSUANCE OF THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER AT 30 OUT. >> I WILL THEY KNOW THAT THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER HAS BEEN ISSUED. >> MOST OF THE TIME SOMEBODY IS OBJECTING TO A PROJECT AND THEY'RE INTENDING TO APPEAL THEY ARE IN CLOSE CONTACT WITH US REGARDING THE STATUS OF THE CONTRACT. SO. >> AND YOU KNOW AND ALSO WITH THE NEW ACELA. SYSTEM ONE THAT COMES ONLINE. >> IT IS IT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC IT IS SO TRANSPARENT SO THEY GO LOOK UP THE PROJECT ONLINE WITHOUT EVEN CONTACTING US AND SEE IF THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER WAS ISSUED. >> SO I WANT TO JUST THROW IT OUT THERE BECAUSE ADMINISTRATIVELY I JUST I'M NOT A FAN OF I MADE THAT VERY CLEAR I'M NOT A FAN OF ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL. PROCESSES THAT'S PART OF OUR ROLE. >> WITH THE NEW ULDC. SHORTLY AFTER THE PREVIOUS ULDC WAS WAS DONE. THERE WERE A LOT OF HICCUPS THAT NEEDED TO BE CORRECTED AND STAFF AND THE COMMISSION WORK TOGETHER TO GET THOSE CORRECTED BY HAVING ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL. >> WE DON'T KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED I'M SPEAKING FROM EXPERIENCE WHEN THERE'S A CITIZENS GROUP RECOGNIZES THERE'S A CODE THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED AND AMENDED. CITIZENS WORKED REALLY REALLY HARD TO GET THOSE AMENDMENTS MADE WITH COMMISSION AND STAFF WORKING ALTOGETHER BY HAVING ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL WE'RE WORRYING REMOVED FROM THAT WHOLE EQUATION ♪ NOT KNOWING THAT THERE'S A POTENTIAL CODE THAT NEEDS TO CHANGE. SO THAT MAKES ME CONCERNED. TABLE 29 PAGE ♪ 29 THE TABLE. THERE IS NOTHING IN HERE ABOUT RE PLAT. I GUESS INITIAL POT. WE'VE SEEN BOTH THAT ARE QUASI JUDICIAL. THAT'S NOT LISTED ON HERE ALL THAT'S LISTED AS FINAL PLAT. THE TABLE MA'AM WHERE PAGE IT'S THE TABLE 2002002.1. >> SO I'M A SOUTH DIVISION MINOR AND ASSAULT DIVISION PRELIMINAR BOTH ASIDE JUDICIAL. THEY'RE COME TO THE CITY COMMISSION. A SUBDIVISION FINAL PLAT. WELCOME TO CITY COMMISSION WILL BE ON THE CITY COMMISSIONS CONSENT WHAT REMEMBER 8 THE SUBDIVISION. IT'S A DIVISION IS A SUBDIVISION THAT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S A IT'S A A NEW SUBDIVISION OR HENRY SUBDIVISION OR A ITS STILL A SUBDIVISION. >> WHEN WE SEE IT WE SEE REPLY AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO BRING IT UP JUST TO MAKE SURE TO GET OVERLOOKED. >> THIS HE'S NOT PLANNING AND ZONING ADVISORY BOARD IS ON THE CHART. THAT'S CALLED THE DECISION MATRIX HOWEVER THEY ARE NOWHERE ON THE CHURCH ITSELF. >> THEY ARE NOT ON THE CHART BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT THE DECISION-MAKER THEY ARE A RECOMMENDING AND THAT IS PROVIDED PROCESS ACTION. >> IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WHEN THERE'S A COMP PLAN INTERPRETATION. THAT'S I GUESS STAFF MAKES IT GETS APPEALED TO THE PEACE >> THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HELP AND THE COMPREHENSIVE DOESN'T NEED TO BE IN THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE IN THE ULDC BUSINESS EVERYTHING ULDC NOT EVERYTHING ULDC AND >> I THOUGHT THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN WHY THE ZAP WAS LISTED HEART OF THE ABBREVIATIONS IF THEY'RE NOT IN THE CHART THEY DON'T NEED TO IN THE ABBREVIATIONS. THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. ARE TO ADVISORY BOARD IS ALSO NOT IN THE CHART. BUT THE ART ADVISORY BOARD HAS THE. >> RECOMMENDATIONS AND AUTHORITY TO APPROVE WITHOUT MEETING REQUIREMENTS. >> THEY DON'T AND THEY I MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AND BAD IT COMES TO COMMISSION FINAL SESSION SO SO AD ALSO DOESN'T NEED TO BE ON THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT IN THE CHART. >> THAT'S YOU KNOW THAT'S THE SCRIVENER 3RD SOME DOCUMENT HAS COME THROUGH VARIOUS READER REITERATION OVER YOU KNOW WE'RE CERTAINLY WON'T CONSIDER MAKING THOSE CORRECTIONS HOWEVER WE DO HAVE A LIMITED TIME BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING. AND WE DO AUTHORITY UNDER CHAPTER WANT TO MAKE THE MINUTES FOR PATIENTS LONG AS IT DOES NOT CHANGE THE INTENT OF THE CODE THAT WOULD INCLUDE. CRAIG OURS OR MOUNTAIN. >> SPELLING EVEN. PROCESS ORDERS THAT DOES NOT PAY ALL OF THAT DOES NOT CHANGE THE INTENT OF THE CODE AND THAT UNDER THE GENERAL PROVISIONS WE CAN MAKE THOSE CHANGES WITHOUT AN ORDINANCE COMES TO WITH THE CITY COMMISSION. >> AND THAT SAME CHART MA'AM THERE'S ZONING HEARING OFFICER THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE MAJOR VARIANCES. BUT THAT'S NOT LISTED ON THIS CHART. I WOULD LIKE IT TO COME TO COMMISSION, I KNOW I'M NOT GOING GET SUPPORT OF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS OR STAFF SO I'M JUST GOING TO APPEAL TO YOU TO MAKE SURE GETS ADDED TO THE CHART SINCE THEY'RE THE AUTHORITY. >> I'M MAJOR VARIANCES YOU HAVE A MINOR BUT NOT MAJOR IT'S VARIANCE ALL BE MINOR AND THAT'S VARIANCE JUDICIAL IT'S ORDER BY ZONING HEARING OFFICER THE SECOND TO LAST ON PAGE 29 MAYBE IT JUST EASIER TO JUST PUT MAJOR. >> THEY'RE SINCE WE DO BREAK THEM OUT MAJOR MINOR VARIANCES JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE POINT. OKAY. >> COMMISSIONER AVERAGE ARE STILL THERE DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANYTHING. NO >> OTHER THING I'D LIKE JUST PASSED OUT IS FORMER OF. I DON'T REMEMBER THEIR NAME. THE SECOND PEOPLE THAT ULDC. THEY HAD A REALLY COOL OUT OF HOW THE ULDC BOOK TO REALLY EASY TO FLIP THROUGH THE PAGES KNOW THAT I MYSELF WHEN I WAS TRYING TO FLIP THROUGH THE PAGES WHERE IS THE SECTION IT WAS REALLY EASILY OUTLINE SIDE, I'LL SHARE IT WITH YOU GUYS MAYBE STAFF MIGHT BE AMENABLE TO DOING SOMETHING SIMILAR I DON'T BUT. THE WHOLE THING IS TO JUST TRY AND MAKE THIS POPE EASIER TO READ FLIPPING TRYING TO FIND THE PAGING TRYING TO FIND SECTION VERY DIFFICULT TO MAYBE STAFF OF POPPING. I'M JUST THROWING IT OUT IN THE ORDINANCE BETWEEN LIKE ONE 24 1.25. IT IS MISSING CHAPTER 54. CHAPTER 54 IS PART OF THE CURRENT 2, BUT IT'S NOT BEING REPEALED IN ITS ENTIRETY LIKE ALL THE OTHERS THAT ARE ONE I'M SURE IT WAS I IT'S THE SAME BUT COULD POP YOU IT'S JUST EXAMPLE OF IS JUST AN EXAMPLE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FRONT AND BACK WOULD WRITE 300 PAGES. SO IF YOU ON ONE 24 1.25 IN THE ORDINANCE SAYS CHAPTER 53 IN TITLE IS REPEAL CHAPTER 55 IS REPEALED BUT THERE IS A CHAPTER 54 THAT IS NOT PUNCH. I'M SURE IT'S JUST A SCRIPT I DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO SEND IT TO YOU I APOLOGIZE, I RAN OUT OF TIME REVIEWING THIS COLD. DONE THERE, OKAY. AND THAT'S THE BODIES. >> WHY SO IT'S REALLY ON RESPONSE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. PUBLIC COMMENT. >> YES, DOWN LOW BACK FOLLOWED BY JOSH SMITH AND THE WEST THEIR RUN. >> TAKE THE MINISTERS APPRECIATE THE LETTER SUGGESTED WORDING IN THE COMP PLAN AND COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL TROOPS LAST BOARD IT AND ALL OF YOU FOR PROVING IT. AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE IN THE ULDC SO YOU'VE GOT TO BUILD ON THAT. IN A WAY THAT WILL PROTECT THE ENTIRE THAT WAS APPROVED WAS A FOOTNOTE ACTIVITIES CENTER 2. THERE WERE QUESTIONS WERE WISE AS WEATHER. MOST OF THE COMMUNITY LOWS OF THE HOMES THAT ARE SOUTH OF WHAT I DRIVE FOR A COUPLE BE PROTECTED FROM RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE GOLF COURSE. AND THAT'S WHY WE GET TO THE ULDC BECAUSE NOBODY EVER RESPONDED TO BUT YOU HAD MANY MANY PEOPLE SAY THE PCB. THAT WAS SOMETHING IN THE COP AND THE SAYS THAT NOW THAT FOR THAT THE CHANGE THAT DEVELOPMENT OF. NORTH OR SOUTH WHAT I WAS IT IS GOING TO BE AVAILABLE FOR THE CDS OT YOU'RE ELIMINATING THE DO SO AND WITH THAT ELIMINATING THE REQUIREMENT FOR A MASTER PLAN. SO WHEN THE DRI EXPIRES IT WILL BE YOU KNOW THAT PLAN. WE ARE URGING YOU BEFORE YEAR AUGUST 6 YEAR AND THEN THAT YOU TO DRAFT CONCLUDE THAT YOUR CONSIDERATION. A REQUIREMENT THAT WHEN THE DEER A SUPPLIER WILL BE A REQUIREMENT FOR A MASTER PLAN. FOR ENTIRETY OF COMMUNITY. YOU DO IT WITH THE BE ABLE KEEP THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE MASTER PLAN. THOSE ABSENT THAT I CAN TELL YOU THE DEVELOPERS GOING TO IN AS FOR DEVELOPMENT AND PARTICULARLY NOW THAT YOU REMOVE THAT 24 ACRES OF GOLF COURSE. YOU KNOW THAT LEGITIMATELY AND LEGALLY IS THAT IN YOUR PLAN FOR MANY YEARS. YOU KNOW STAFF NEVER GET AN ANSWER ABOUT WHY YOU COULD NOT TAKE THAT OUT. KEEP RECREATIONAL SPACES QUALIFY. THE VISION. ANOTHER PROVISION, YOU'RE DOING HERE IS SAYING THAT IF YOU'VE GOT RESIDENTIAL DENSITY YOU KNOW WALKER LOOK AT THE NUMBER UNITS OF THE ACRE. PARCEL. YOU CAN TAKE THE WHOLE AREA. AND SQUEEZE AND OUT OF THE ONE AREA THAT VIOLENT YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IT DOES ADDRESS THE PARCEL K ISSUE THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE IS YOUR NEXT TIME AROUND FOR THIS DEVELOPER GET 150 HOMES IN THE MIDST OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. EVEN THOUGH THAT VIOLATE SO MUCH OF WHAT YOU TRY TO MAKE IT IS YOUR BY ELIMINATING THE DEFINITION OF DENSITY UNIFIED AND DEVELOPING COAT. AND FINALLY DON'T TAKE AWAY THE PEOPLE'S RIGHT TO A PUBLIC HEARING. AND YOUR APPROVAL O MASTER SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. SO WITH THE 3 REPORT. THAT'S WHAT WE THE PEOPLE KNOW THAT AUGUST 6 THOSE COSTS BACK AND WE'RE JUST HOPING TO HAVE A BETTER PRODUCT FOR THEIR. >> JOSH SMITH PRESIDENT PORT. BEAT THE DRUM AGAIN. IT REALLY BOTHERS ME THAT WE'RE NOT LIVING EVERY CITIZEN KNOW THAT THEIR PROPERTIES BEING RESULT. >> ALL I HAVE A REAL FEAR, BUT THEY'RE GOING HARD WE'RE GOING OUT OF HEAD OF US. WE HAVE GOT TO LET THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS NOW WE HAVE I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A FEAR THAT THEY'LL HER AT APARTMENTS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS THERE'S NO REASON WE'RE NOT INFORMING CITIZENS. SECOND BY MISS. I TRY TO BE THE VOICE OF HEY LOOK AT THIS IS WHAT THE CITIZENS ARE THINKING FOR YOU GUYS. IF YOU THROUGH THE SECOND LESSON I WISH I HAD DONE MY BUILDING IS COMMERCIAL I GOT IT THEN FACES AND I COULDN'T NOT DONE SOME OF THAT DONE SOME OF THAT. ONE RESIDENTIAL PRESENT BOTH APARTMENT AT ALL AS MANAGING YOUR THAT'S LAID OUT THERE'S A DEBT SAID THEY HAVE TO DO IT TO COST ME MORE MONEY TO EXTEND MY PERMIT. I UNDERSTAND THE COMMERCIAL BREAKS AND TAX I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A LOT OF THAT STUFF. I JUST REALLY WANT YOU GUYS TO HEAR HOW IT SOUNDS TO CITIZENS WHEN WE LISTEN TO THIS STUFF. THEY'RE THEY'RE THEY'RE YOU KNOW WE DON'T WANT THAT SET DATE BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO OFFSET, BUT YOU'RE BETRAYING YOUR FRONT YARD. YOU KNOW, I MEAN IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE I KEEP ASKING YOU GUYS TO HELP US. AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE SPOTS, YOU KNOW DON'T FORGET THAT A MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE ARE BUILDING COMMERCIAL. WE'RE BUILDING RESIDENTIAL VERY OWN RESIDENTIAL WE'RE TRYING TO WITHIN THE RULES. >> I KEEP HEARING THE ARBORISTS MEANS GET INVOLVED OR NEEDS TO GET BALL. YOU GUYS ARE UNDERSTAFFED AND A LOT OF POSSESSIONS AND IT MAKES IT A NIGHTMARE FOR US RESIDENTIAL PEOPLE TO GET ANYBODY OUT DON'T EFFECT. I KEEP HEARING CODE ENFORCEMENT'S GOING TO BE IN CHARGE OF THAT COLIN FOR SMOKE COME OUT LOOK INTO THAT WE ALREADY HAVE CITIZENS ARE SAYING WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH COURT ENFORCE MY PEOPLE NOW CODE ENFORCEMENT'S GOING TO BE IN CHARGE OF COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS GET BUILT ON MIXED I JUST REALLY HOPE THAT WE'RE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE SETTING OURSELVES UP FOR FAILURE WITH SOME OF THESE YOU KNOW CODE ENFORCEMENT WELL, IF THERE'S A PLAN TO HIRE MORE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, THERE'S A PLAN TO PAY HIM AND THAT'S THE PLAN BUT YOU KNOW NICE TO HEAR THAT. I JUST REALLY WANT EVERYONE TO REALIZE THAT WE'RE KIND OF LEAVING IT OPEN WELL MAYBE AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET REALLY NAILED DOWN THAT'S ALL I GOT THANK YOU FOR YOUR BUCK. THANK YOU. >> THERE AND ONCE REPRESENT MY FAMILY. >> A COUPLE COMMENTS ON ULDC ULDC WORKSHOP AND THAT'S GOING ON FIRST OF ALL WHEN I FIRST LEARNED ABOUT ACTIVITY CENTER 6 SOMEBODY QUICK ABOUT THIS. MY CONCEPT WAS IS OF I PUT I COMBINE MY 2 LOTS BUT 5 SMALL STRUCTURES WHICH WERE CONNECTED BY BREES WAYS INSTEAD OF INTERNAL CONNECTIVITY I COULD AFFORD TO SMALL STRUCTURES PUT 2 BUSINESSES AND 3 HOMES ON LAND WHERE I WOULD CREATE JOBS AND INCOME FOR PORT. BUT I'M NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE CONTROL CONNECTIVITY INSTEAD OF THE BREEZEWAY BETWEEN WHICH WOULD ALSO QUALIFY ME FOR INCENTIVES BY PUTTING A SOLAR FARM ON TOP OF THOSE BREEZE WAYS MAKING IT MORE GREEN MORE TO ATTRACT MORE PEOPLE HERE AREA. THE MAIN REASON I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THIS AS COMPARED 2 MINUTES SO BASICALLY OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST 4 YEARS I'VE TALKED TO THE CITY OF NORTH PORT ZONING AND PLANNING MULTIPLE TIMES I SAID WHAT WILL PREVENT YOU FROM BUILDING ON THAT WAY. SCRUB JAYS THAT'S ALL I SAID I ASKED IN PERSON PHONE AND EMAIL IN THE PAST 30 DAYS I HAD 2 MEETINGS ZONING AND PLANNING. I'VE ALWAYS QUESTIONS MAKE A KID ANSWER SOME VERY SIMPLE QUESTIONS THEY CAN'T SAY. LIKE FOR A COVID NOW TO BILL THEY'RE NOT ACCEPTING NEW PERMITS FOR SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL EVEN THE LAST BUT IT IS OH NO THEY WON'T LET ME TURN THE PEOPLE WORKING THEY SAY NO GO AWAY. YOU CAN'T DO THAT. SO BASICALLY THEY CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS LIKE SO WE CAN GET QUESTIONS FROM DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES LIKE IT SECRETLY FATHERED IS PROVEN IN BY AUGUST 6TH. CAN WE SUBMIT POTENTIAL PARTIALLY COMPLETED BLUEPRINT KNOW WE HAVE TO BATTLE A FIGHT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO GET IT ALL RIGHT. SO AGAIN GOING BACK TO THE STATEMENTS I ASKED DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY OF NORTH PORT AND THERE IS ONE EMPLOYEE THAT WORKS IN THIS BUILDING THAT HAS GIVEN ME A WRITTEN STATEMENT THAT SAYS I SHOULD PUT THE LEGAL RECOURSE ARE GOING TO DO. THE REASON FOR THAT IS IS EVERY TIME ASKED WHAT WILL STOP ME FROM BILL IT NOTHING BUT SCRUB JAYS WELL IF YOU'VE GOT A WORKSHOP GOING ON SINCE WHEN OBVIOUSLY YOU GUYS ALL KNOW THERE'S THINGS GOING THAT WOULD PREVENT ME FROM BUILDING GETS RESULTS IF YOU GO IT'S BEING REZONED SINCE 2021. I BOUGHT MY WAY AND 2022 WHEN I PUT IT OFF. WELL SINCE I HAVE HAD EXPERIENCES IN THE COST TO THE PROPERTY TAX WE WERE IN THE WAY OF THE CROSS THE TOOLS AND SUPPLIES, INCLUDING TOOLS MACHINERY THE FOOD HYDRATION YOU'RE COMMISSIONERS WITH VEHICLES AND GOING OUT THERE. >> MY TIME CONSULTING THE CITY BUILDERS MET AT A COST OF LIVING EXPENSES DUE TO THE DELAY IS ALL RIGHT PRETTY EXPENSIVE DEVICE WITH YOU GUYS WHY WOULD THIS HAPPEN BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IF YOU'RE CHARGING ME MY PROPERTY TAX AND SENDING ME A STATEMENT THE PROPERTY TAX. WELL LET'S GO BACK TO THE STATEMENT COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL MADE ABOUT 20 20, BUT IT WAS NOT KNOWN TO US WITH THOSE MOST WITHIN THE PROPERTY RIGHT WE ARE EXCLUDED BY PROPERTY AND YOU'RE GOING TO RESOLVE IT AND YOU WOULD KNEW WHAT SAYS HERE'S YOUR PROPERTY TAX PAY THIS IT WAS SO GOOD TO SOMEBODY ELSE. WELL. THAT MEANS THE BELL THAT THEY HAVE ADDRESS. I HAVE NEVER ONCE IN 5 YEARS RECEIVED ANYTHING SAYING THE REZONING SO HERE I AM MAKING THESE PLAYERS. MY FAMILY MY WAY TO MAKE ME GO OUT THERE THE CHAIN SHOW THE REALLY REALLY HARD AND NOW I HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO HER WHY WE CAN'T BUILD. NOBODY WANTS TO EXPLAIN THAT TO WIFE. IT'S MAKING MY LIFE VERY VERY DIFFICULT SO OUR TIME THANK YOU. >> THAT'S KIND. >> ALL RIGHT MOVING ON PUBLIC. HEARING NONE, I'M LOOKING FOR MOTION. MAKE A MOTION DO HIT. >> I MOVE TO CONTINUE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 13 TO SECOND READING ON AUGUST 6. >> AND I KNOW WE DID APPROVE THE MOTION I DON'T KNOW WHICH SHOULD SEE ORDINANCES APPLIES POINTS TRANSLATE I KNOW IS THAT CHANGING THE RADIUS PRIMARILY RADIUS FROM THE PROPERTY LINE AND NOTIFICATION PURPOSES CITY CLERK YOU HAD A REALLY GOOD TO ADD TO THAT >> INCORPORATING ANY APPROVED MOTIONS. >> THAT WE WANT. AS MENTIONED. A MOTION >> OKAY WE HAVE THAT MADE BY A COMMISSIONER HAS CAPTURED BY OUR CITY CLERK AND SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR. >> IS THERE ANYTHING SPEECH GYMS. SO I'VE FOLLOWING THIS ULDC SINCE BEFORE BECAME A COMMISSIONER I SAT IN THAT FIRST WORKSHOP WITH UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA. >> IT WAS STARTED TO. CLEAN UP OF THE CODE BRING IT TO STATE STANDARDS. AND WE HIRED NUMEROUS WE HAD 2 CONSULTANTS AND NUMEROUS STAFF. AT THE END OF 2022 THE EXISTING STAFF THAT WE HAVE TODAY TOOK ON THAT CHALLENGE. NO OTHERS COULD ACCOMPLISH BEFORE WORKSHOPS ENSUED. >> AND I HAVE TO MY HAT IS OFF TO STAFF. I KNOW THAT IT SEEMS LIKE WE'VE BATTLED IT WAS NOT BATTLED PERSONALLY WAS BATTLED ON. CONCEPT WAS BATTLED ON. IT WAS A BATTLE OF THE WILLS WASN'T A BATTLE PERSONAL AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS UNDERSTOOD. MY HATS OFF TO YOU GUYS BECAUSE YOU DO A TREMENDOUS JOB WITH THE TASK AND GETTING THIS TO BE COMPLETED AND I KNOW ALONG THE WAY ASK A LOT OF QUESTIONS. AND I EVEN HAD MORE TODAY, BUT I KNEW IT JUST WASTING EVERYBODY'S TIME. THOSE QUESTIONS WEREN'T TO BE A PAIN BUT TO ENSURE THAT THIS DOCUMENT FOUND THE BALANCE THAT WAS NECESSARY TO ENTICE DEVELOPMENT. AND PROTECT TO THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS. THAT IS WHAT MY WHOLE GOAL WAS PROTECT EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS. >> THE COMMISSIONER FROM CITIZENS CONCERNS WHEN IT WAS A SIMILAR WAS EVERY COACH A LITTLE STAINS TO REMEMBER THAT MEETING. WHERE THEY WERE GOING TO CHANGE THE NAME AND THE COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY SAID NO AND THAT CHANGE DIDN'T HAPPEN. AND CITIZENS WERE CONCERNED ABOUT NEIGHBORHOOD BEING REZONED. AND STAFF AND COMMISSION CHANGED CERTAIN AREAS AND JUST NOT TOO LONG AGO WE HAD THOSE GUT-WRENCHING STORIES FROM CITIZENS AND WE'VE PROTECTED THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS. BUT WE FELL FAR SHORT WHEN WE DIDN'T SEND OUT NOTICES TO ALL OF THE OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS THAT THE PROPERTIES BEING RE ZONE. EVERY DAY. AT LEAST ONCE A DAY WHEN I'M TALKING TO CITIZENS THEY GO WELL PROPERTIES BEING REZONED I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. I MEAN SO MANY TELL ME. >> OKAY WE'VE HAD THESE PUBLIC HEARINGS WILL BEGIN WE'VE HAD THESE WORKSHOPS OKAY WE'VE HAD THESE PODCAST. >> PEOPLE ARE BUSY WITH THEIR LIVES AND THERE'S NOTHING LIKE GETTING THAT LETTER IN THE MAIL THAT SAYS HEY PROPERTIES BEING RE ZONE. SHAME ON THIS COMMISSION. THEN THOSE SAME PROPERTY OWNERS WE NOTIFY OTHER PROPERTIES BEING RESOLVED IF THERE'S A PROPERTY OWNERS. >> THE CITY DOES TO BE NOTIFYING THEM. JUST THAT'S COMING DOWN THE PIKE IN THE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO PAY. AND WE SAY HAVE >> I DIFFERENCES BETWEEN MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS STAFF AND MYSELF WHEN IT COMES TO THIS REZONING IN BALANCING DEVELOPMENT AND PROTECTING EXISTING PROPERTIES. AND WE CHECKS AND BALANCES. I ALWAYS SAID THAT THE FOCUS TO INCREASE OUR TAXPAYERS SHOULD BE AT THE ACTIVITY CENTER LEVEL LEAVE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD ALONE. WE'RE WAY AUTHORITY TO OTHERS THAT IS OURS WE ARE REZONING THE CITY THAT AFFECTS THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE. AND MAJORITY OF THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS WILL REMAIN CLUELESS UNTIL THEY GO TO CHANGE OR SELL OR WANT TO BUILD. AND THEY FIND OUT THEY CAN'T. THESE ARE THE FACTS THAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO KEEP SHROUDED THAT I KEEP TALKING ABOUT. OF THAT WE'RE LEAVING FUTURE COMMISSIONERS AND FUTURE STAFF TO DEAL WITH ESPECIALLY THESE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES IS NO DIFFERENT THAN THE FOLLOW-UP AT GENERAL DEVELOPMENT OUR FOUNDING FATHERS. LET US TO DEAL WITH. FOR DECADES. THERE WAS NO HAS BEEN PROVEN TO BE THE FLY AND I CAN'T HELP BUT WONDER WE ARE GOING DOWN A SIMILAR PATH WITH THIS CITY-WIDE TO REZONE. >> I DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER. >> GOING VOTE THEN. VICE MAYOR. YES, THERE'S A YES. >> LANDON'S YES, DO AS A HELPFUL. >> AND THAT I MEAN ALRIGHT, THAT PASSES 4 TO ONE. >> ALWAYS GOOD TO MOVE THE THERE OKAY. >> WHEN THERE WHAT'S THE PLAN FOR THIS MEETING I HAVE A DOG AND FIGURE >> WELL ONE WAY YOU GUYS MIND IS HAPPY YOU WANT TO DO. HE WON A HARD STOP DONE WHAT WE HOW DO YOU WANT TO PROCEED. >> WANT TO 45 VERY DIFFERENT ABOUT BUT WE'RE GET STAFF SILENT SPRING >> IF WE DO NOT GET THE ASSOCIATED ORDINANCE THAT DEAL WITH THE ULDC DONE TONIGHT WE CANNOT SEND THEM TO SECOND READING ACT 6 RIGHT. >> WHAT IT WAS A TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE GET THE ZONING MAP IN THE ZONING MAP AND THEN TAKE 45 MINUTE BREAK OR I MEAN THAT WE HAVE WITH CHAPTER 5 PER SIGNS WE HAVE ZONING MAP A SOCIEDAD ORDINANCE. SO DO A 45 EACH THAT. >> I'M SO WHAT I WOULD JUST >> NICE AND EASY ♪ >> OKAY THAT'S ♪ >> FINE OKAY, 7 O'CLOCK TOLD WE >> WE WERE TOLD ONLY NEEDED THERE. I WANT. FOR 45 MINUTES YEAH, BOARD THIS MORNING SUN ARE PERFECTLY HAPPY WITH A 10 HELP BREAK AND WE CAN. BRING DINNER TO THE BACK OF THE ROOM MORE THAN HALF OF KEEP GOING. MIND WHEN YOU WHAT YOU NEED TO DO. YEAH TAKE CARE WHAT COUNCIL. YOU GET A CAKE. >> DO BE LATE. >> ALL RIGHT SO WHAT >> WHAT YOU WANT TO WE 20 MINUTES 20 MINUTES. IS THAT OF OKAY 20 MINUTES. >> SO IT'S COME BACK >> HI I MALAYNIA THIS IS ANSWERS WITH ELENA AND I'M GOING TO ANSWER ALL OF YOUR FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS. CAN A BUSINESS BE BUILT RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO MY HOME. IT'S A PENCE ONE OF THE BIGGEST FACTORS IS HOW MUCH LAND DOES THAT PROPERTY OWNER, HALF IN ORDER FOR SOMEONE TO PUT NEW DEVELOPMENT ON PROPERTY THEY HAVE TO HAVE ENOUGH LAND FOR PARKING BUFFERS STORM WATER TREE CONSERVATION AND ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT GO INTO BUILDING A NEW FACILITY THAT'S GOING TO MEAN THAT SOMEONE IS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO COME IN AND PUT A NEW BUSINESS ON A QUARTER ACRE LOT RIGHT NEXT TO YOUR HOME THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE LAND THAN THAT BUSINESSES ALSO TYPICALLY LIKE TO HAVE FRONTAGE ON A MAIN ROAD SO ANY BUSINESS THAT COMES IN IT'S GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR THAT ACCESS. THAT MAY MEAN THAT THEY HAVE TO BUY NUMEROUS LOTS IN ORDER TO HAVE ENOUGH LAND TO DEVELOP AND TO GET THE ACCESS ON THE MAIN ROADS THAT THEY WANT THE ULDC REWRITE THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY DRAFTING HAS PROTECTIONS FOR CURRENT RESIDENTS. SO THAT IF A BUSINESS DOES LOCATE NEAR YOUR HOME. WE WILL HAVE ADEQUATE BUFFERS AND PROTECTIONS TO ENSURE THAT YOU CAN STILL ENJOY YOUR QUALITY OF LIFE. >> DECIDED TO BECOME A FIREFIGHTER USED TO WORK HOSPITALITY AND GROUP SALES AND I ALWAYS HAD FRIENDS THAT WORK. FIREFIGHTERS AND I DECIDED ONE DAY THAT I WANTED AND MY JOB DONE FOR PEOPLE SO. >> I WENT AHEAD UT AND PARAMEDIC PROGRAM WITH THE ♪ FIRE ACADEMY. SAW A NORTH WE'RE HIRING. AND REALLY LIKED WHAT THEY HAD ON BETWEEN THEIR ISO RATING BELIEFS AND VALUES AND EVERYTHING 5, 5, THEY GAVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY EVERY DAY IS DIFFERENT BUT FOR THE MOST PART WE START OFF THE SAME. ♪ WHAT WAS GET OUR YEAR ONTO THE. BRAD US MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S OPERATIONAL AND OUR AIR PACK. ALSO CHECKED INVENTORY. MAKE SURE WE HAVE ALL OUR MEDICAL EQUIPMENT. EVERYTHING'S THAT WAY YOU CAN RESPOND TO ANY EMERGENCY SO WE'RE ALWAYS STOCKED AND READY TO I THINK THE BEST PART IS THAT EVERYONE'S PASSION ABOUT THEIR JOB. >> SO THEY COME TO WORK AND THEY'RE READY TO TRAIN AND TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER AND TEACH EACH OTHER SO EVERYONE'S SHARPENED ON THEIR A GAME SO IT MAKES IT OFTEN AND I JUST LOOK FORWARD TO COME TO WORK. >> I ALWAYS GET VERY EXCITED WHEN ANYBODY ASKS ME ABOUT MY JOB IN WHERE I WORK AND WHAT I DO IT'S NOT A SECRET THAT I LOVE WORKING FOR THE CITY OF NORTH PORT I WORKED FOR CHARLOTTE COUNTY AND I FELT THAT I NEEDED TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND I WANTED SOMETHING MORE AND I WANT OFFER MY SKILLS IT TO MY FRIEND DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO AND I WAS THINKING ABOUT MY NEXT STEPS AND SHE SAID DID YOU THINK ABOUT APPLYING TO JOBS. THE CITY OF NORTH PORT THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT VIBE HERE AND SHE SAID LOVE IT AND I SAID I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THAT SO I APPLIED AND I STARTED MY FIRST POSITION IN A PLANNING AND ZONING IN OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT I'M PARTNERED WITH THE DELI DEPARTMENT. >> BECAUSE MY MIND THE FEES ARE ASSESSED OFF OF THE BUILDING PERMITS AND IT'S STRICTLY FROM NEW CONSTRUCTION, NEW DEVELOPMENT. AND THE FIRST THING I DO IS TO CHECK THE SPREADSHEET TO LOOK AT THE PERMITS AND DETERMINED WHICH ONES NEED ME TO ESTIMATE THEIR IMPACT FEES AND THAT'S WHY START WITH THAT THEN I GO TO NUMBERS THAT I HAVE TO PUT TOGETHER AND I PUT TOGETHER INVOICES DEVELOPERS OFTEN TIMES GET PHONE CALL TO GET BOTH SPEAK FOR THE DEVELOPMENT COMES THROUGH AND SO DEVELOPERS WANT TO KNOW HOW MUCH THEY CAN. >> BUDGET FOR SOMETIMES I PUT PROPOSED ESTIMATE TO HELP THEM LIKE THAT. ♪ ♪ THE BULK OF IT IS IT'S MAKING SURE THAT THE FEES ARE IN THE SYSTEM AS FAST AS POSSIBLE. I LOVE THE ESPRIT DE CORPS THAT EXPERIENCE. JUST HOW EVERYBODY TEAMWORK TOGETHER ENJOY KNOWING THAT I CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE FOR THE CITY AND THAT MY POSITION CAN HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT FOR OUR CITY. ♪ AND I PROMISE ALWAYS MANAGES TO THE NORTH PORT. >> HERE TODAY, WITH MARY OF ANY PLAYER SCHEDULE FOR THE CITY OF NORTH PORT SOLID WASTE DIVISION WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT PICKUPS TODAY. I HAD A SCHEDULED VOTE PICKUPS WHAT SHOULD GO OUT AND WHAT SHOULD NOT GO OUT TO THE CURB WHERE TO PLACE THE ITEM TO THEM WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN WHAT A LOT OF CHIEF OF THE YEAR PICK UP. SO I KNOW WE CALL 9, 4, 1, 2, 4, 0, 8, 0, 50 TALK TO OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE REPS THAT'S CORRECT HOW TO PICKUP HOW ELSE CAN WE DO THAT. >> CAN ALSO GO ON A WEBSITE NORTH PORT FL DOT CLICK ON SOLID WASTE AND FILL OUT A BULK REQUEST FOR EXCELLENT EXCELLENT SCENARIO WHEN IN DOUBT. >> IF A PERSON WANTS TO PLAY SET OUT WHAT YOU THINK PLACE OUT WHAT'S RIGHT THING WAS THE WRONG THING BASICALLY FRANK ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T FIT IN THE CONTAINER THAT'S GARBAGE IS GOING TO GO CURBSIDE GOING TO STAY OFF DRIVEWAYS WHAT'S NOT ACCEPT IT IS TIRES CHEMICALS. >> STUFF LIKE THAT YOU CAN PUT YARD WASTE OUT THAT'S CONSIDERED BALK BUT JUST MAKE SURE IT'S SEPARATE FROM GARBAGE PILE CONWAY SAYS A SEPARATE PICKUP, SO WHAT HAPPENS IF I USE ALL MY UP BOTH VICTIMS ARE A GOOD QUESTION. SO YOU CAN HAVE MORE BUT HAVE TO PAY IT CAN BE 1650 A CUBIC YARD AND THAT'S LINKED TIMES WITH TIME TIGHT DIVIDED BY 27 IS ONE COULD BE COUNTED ANY QUESTIONS OF COURSE LET'S NOT GIVE US A CALL 941-240-8050. >> I'M STACEY LOVES OF EMERGENCY MANAGER FOR CITY WORK AND I'M GOING DISCUSS FIRST RESPONDERS AFTER STORM, SO IT MAY TAKE A WHILE FOR FIRST RESPONDERS TO GET TO STORM AND DUE TO A VARIETY OF REASONS. ONE ALL FIRST RESPONDERS OFF THE ROADS, THE TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS ARE SUSTAINED FOR THEIR SAFETY THAT IS A STANDARD USUALLY COSTS AND OTHER SO WE WILL HAVE A BACKLOG CALLS THAT HAVE COME IN DURING THE STORM THAT PRIORITIZE BASED AND THE OTHER RESPONDING TO AS WELL AS THE CALLS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON THEM. ALSO ON THE ROADS MIGHT BE FLOODED. THERE MIGHT BE DEBRIS IN THE ROADS ARE TECHNICAL FIRST IN TEAMS WILL BE GOING OUT RIGHT AWAY TO CLEAR THE ROADS ANY HOUSERS A SKILL THAT OUR VEHICLES CAN GET THROUGH AND RESPOND ♪ THE CAUSE. JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND WHEN YOU CALL AFTER DISASTER FOR CITIZENS, WE ARE COMING. WE ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO US TO CARE ABOUT OUR RESIDENTS AND THEIR SAFETY BUT IT MAY JUST ALLOWED FOR US TO GET TO THE ON OF ♪ THE >> I'M STACEY LOS. YOU KNOW ON THE EMERGENCY IN WATER THEY ARE GOING SEE STORM SURGE AND FLOODING NEXT OR SO STORM SURGE IS STRONG SUSTAINED WINDS ARE CONSTANTLY GOING OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME OVER THE GOAL PUSHING WATER UP ONTO WILL NOT HAPPEN. THERE'S A LOT OF FLOODING A LOT OF BEACH EROSION ALONG TEACHER AND THE HOME. HOWEVER THIS STORM CAN ALSO PUSH WATER OF THE RIVER PUSHED THE MYAKKA RIVER FOR INSTANCE, GULF AND THEN THE WATER COMING DOWNSTREAM FROM THE RIVER HAS ORDERED TO BECAUSE WATER TO BACK THAT ALONG WITH A LOT OF RAIN THAT COMES FROM ALSO CAUSED INCREASE OF WATER FLOODING INTO THE RIVER ♪ AND INTO OUR WATER MANAGEMENT CAUSING FLOODING WELL. PUBLIC WORKS WITH A LOT OF WORK BEFORE THE STORM TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR WATER LEVELS POSSIBLE FOR AND THE WAR AGAINST STORM SURGE FLOODING IN OUR WATER SYSTEMS IF YOU WANT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ♪ ON THAT AGREED TO A DEAL BUT A LOT FOLKS >> HELLO EVERYONE, MY NAME IS THE VAN PULL ON THE AQUATICS MANAGER WITHIN OUR PARKS RECREATION DEPARTMENT WERE HERE TODAY AT THE NORTH PORT AQUATIC CENTER JUST TO TALK TO EVERYONE ABOUT A BLOW FOR LIFE PROGRAM WE RECOGNIZE THAT NATIONALLY UNINTENTIONAL DROWNING IS THE LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH FOR CHILDREN UNDER UNDER THE AGE OF SO WE HAVE AN AWESOME PROGRAM HERE CALLED FLOAT FOR LIFE. BLOW FOR LIFE IS A PROGRAM THAT WE TEACH THAT STARTS WITH THE FUNDAMENTALS OF FLOATING BEFORE WE ACTUALLY LEARNED SWIMMING. THIS PROGRAM IS TARGETED FOR THOSE CHILDREN AGES 6 MONTHS TO AND WHAT WE WANT THEM TO DO IS WE WANT THEM TO GET COMFORTABLE IN THE WATER AND IF THEY ACTUALLY FALL IN THE WATER OR FIND THEMSELVES IN A TROUBLED SITUATION, THEY CAN ROLL OVER THEIR BACK AND FLOAT WHEN WE LAUNCHED THIS PROGRAM WE WERE THE ONLY ONE IN THE STATE THAT WAS ACTUALLY TEACHING THIS MILESTONE PROGRAM SO WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO OUR NORTH WHITE ROAD OR E AS WELL WHO SPONSORED THIS PROGRAM HERE AT THE AQUATIC CENTER AND ACTUALLY PAY FOR A TRAINER TO COME ALL THE WAY FROM NEBRASKA WHERE THIS PROGRAM ORIGINATES THERE WE PRACTICE AND WE GO THROUGH WHAT'S CALLED MILESTONES HERE SO AS SOON AS THE KIDS PROGRESSIVE, THE MILESTONE WE CAN CONTINUE MOVING ON THROUGH THEM AND AT THE END OF IT IT'S A PRETTY AWESOME PROGRAM WHEN THEY GRADUATE AS ONE OF THE FINAL THINGS THAT THEY DO IS THEY JUMP IN FULLY CLOTHED AND THEY HAVE TO TURN OVER ROLL OVER ON THEIR BACK AND ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO SCREAM FOR HELP AND THAT POINT IN TIME, IT'S JUST AN AWESOME SEGMENT PROGRAM THAT LEADS RIGHT INTO OUR LEARN TO SWIM PROGRAM SO THAT WAY WE CAN MAKE SURE WE'RE KEEPING OUR KIDS SAFE IN ON AND AROUND THE WATER. >> FRANK THOMAS ALWAYS MANAGER I AM HERE TODAY WITH NOW REOPENED DIDDY MARIO TELL PEOPLE HERE HAVE ONLY BEEN DOING THIS JOB, I'VE BEEN HERE 5 YES 5 YEARS EXCELLENT EXCELLENT SO MARIO TELL PEOPLE WHAT IT ENTAILS WHAT YOU DO. THE PLAN IS SCHEDULED FOR SOLID WASTE THE CITY I GO OUT AND AGREE THE NEW RESIDENTS TONIGHT, EDUCATE THEM ON RECYCLE EXCELLENT SOUNDS INTERESTING VERY SO MARIO WHAT DO YOU FIND INSIDE THE RECYCLING BIN SHOULDN'T BE THERE SO LET'S TRY TO TELL PEOPLE HOW TO RECYCLE ♪ MOST COMMON THING I FIND FRANK PLASTIC BAGS. >> SO START TO NOT RECYCLABLE I FIND JUST POSTING THE CONTAINER OR THE BAD THE RECYCLE WITH HIM AND ♪ MISSION IS STOP LEAK THAT'S RIGHT INSIDE THE BLUE CONTAINERS. AND THEY SHOULD BE YOU TAKEN BACK TO THE GROCERY STORE OR TOSS IN THE TRASH EVERY YOU SEE A LOT OF RECYCLING INSIDE THE CONTAINERS OF I COME ACROSS A LOT OKAY I WANT TO DO THAT SO. >> OKAY, SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS YOU CAN ALWAYS LOOK AT OUR WEBSITE WW DOT NORTH PORT FLORIDA DOT GOV SLASH SOLID WASTE. ♪ >> I'M STACEY LOSO I'M THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY OF NORTH PORT AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE A GO KIT AND WHAT SHOULD GO INSIDE OF IT, IT'S IMPORTANT HAVE A GO BAG BECAUSE IF YOU WAIT LAST MINUTE TO PACK THEY'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO BE ITEMS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO FORGET AND THE SCRAMBLE TO GET EVERYTHING TOGETHER SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO YOUR DOCUMENTS SUCH AS ID'S INSURANCE PAPERWORK TITLES FOR YOUR HOME AND YOUR VEHICLES AND YOUR BOATS JUST SO THAT IF YOUR HOME DOES FLOOD OR ALL THOSE DOCUMENTS ARE WITH YOU AND THEY'RE SAFE BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO END UP LOSING THOSE AND HAVING TO TRY TO REPLACE THOSE LATER ON ALSO IN YOUR GO BAG THAT YOU SHOULD THINK ABOUT WHAT MEDICATIONS YOU MIGHT NEED TO HAVE AHEAD OF TIME FOR UNDER A STATE OF EMERGENCY YOU ARE ABLE TO REFILL PRESCRIPTIONS AHEAD OF TIME EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT DO YET. SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO DO THAT ALSO IN YOUR GO BAG YOU SHOULD HAVE NON-PERISHABLE FOOD FLASHLIGHT BATTERIES, A RADIO THAT IS BATTERY POWERED AND EXTRA BATTERIES SHOULD ALL POWER GO OUT WE WILL BE ABLE TO BROADCAST ON 97.5 FM ANY EMERGENCY INFORMATION SO BE SURE TO HAVE ♪ BATTERY POWERED RADIO READY IN TUNED IN TO 97 POINT. >> I'M STACEY LOS SALE AND THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY OF NORTH PORT AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PLUG DOWNS AND EVACUATION ZONES ARE IN SARASOTA COUNTY. WE CALL THEM EVACUATION LEVELS. SO FLOOD ZONES ARE GENERATED BY FEMA AND THEY'RE USED TO DETERMINE THE LIKELIHOOD THAT YOU'LL FLOOD AND THEY'RE USED TO DETERMINE IF YOU NEED FLOOD INSURANCE IF YOU HAVE A MORTGAGE ON YOUR HOME. NOW THE EVACUATION ZONES ARE BASED ON STORM SURGE DATA THAT COMES FROM THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER. AND THEY USE TOPOGRAPHY AS WELL AS HURRICANE VULNERABILITY FOR STORM SURGE FOR THE AREA AND WE USE THOSE TO DETERMINE WHO NEEDS TO EVACUATE DURING A STORM SO IT'S IMPORTANT UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT WHAT EVACUATION ZONE YOU ARE AND WHICH WE HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU DO. YOU CAN USE YOUR SEARCH ENGINE OF CHOICE. AND TYPE SARASOTA COUNTY KNOW YOUR LEVEL AND THAT WILL TAKE YOU TO THE SARASOTA COUNTY GOVERNMENT WEBSITE. >> WATER IN US WELL THAT'S KIND OF THE DITCH BY YOUR HOUSE IS NOT FLOODING. ♪ WITHIN US AFTER ♪ STORM EVENT WATER SHOULD BE IN THAT SWELL TO 72 HOURS AFTER THE STORM. THAT ALLOWS THE WATER BUILT TO GET THE STUFF CAME OUT FOR ROOM AND ON THE ROAD OUT OF THE WATER SO THAT WHEN IT REACHES THE ♪ HABITAT IT NO LONGER HAS THOSE CONTAMINANTS IT ALSO PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY TO SLOW DOWN WATERS SO THAT THE WATER DOESN'T GO SO FAST THAT THEIR ROADS. ROADWAYS OR ANY OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE, SO WHEN YOU SEE WATER IN ONLY YOU KNOW UP TO ♪ 72 HOURS SINCE THE LAST RAIN THAT IS NOT LETTING THAT IS DOING ITS JOB. >> HELLO MY NAME'S A VAN FULL PRODUCTS FACILITY MANAGER WITH THE CITY OF NORTH PORT AND TODAY WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING WITH YOU GUYS ABOUT OUR FREE SWIM EVALUATION. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DO NEED EVALUATIONS SO KIDS REGISTERING FOR SWIM PROGRAMS THEY GET PLACED IN THE RIGHT CLASS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT MORE DOING THAT'S SOMETHING YOU ATION IS EVERY SWIM LEVEL HAS WHAT'S CALLED EXIT SKILL ASSESSMENTS. SO WHAT WE DO IS WE HAVE YOUR CHILD GET IN THE WATER AND WILL GO THROUGH SERIES OF DIFFERENT MOVEMENTS CAN YOU GO INTO THE WATER I CAN YOU SHOW US YOUR PHONE CALL CAN YOU SHOW US BACK ALL SHOWS ELEMENTARY BACK DIFFERENT STROKES WITHIN AND WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE TRYING TO SEE. YOUR CHILD TEST TO BEFORE IT BECOMES A CHALLENGE FOR THEM AT THAT POINT WHAT WE ASSESS THAT THAT WILL LET YOU KNOW AND YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND SIGN YOUR CHILD UP FOR THAT APPROPRIATE LEVEL THERE. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THESE SO THAT WAY WHEN WE'RE TEACHING A LEVEL ONE WE DON'T HAVE KIDS THAT SHOULD POTENTIALLY IN A LEVEL 2 AND LEVEL ONE CLASS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT LEARNING THE APPROPRIATE SKILLS THAT THEY NEEDED THAT POINT IN TIME RIGHT NOW WHEN WE'RE IN FULL SUMMER WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE COME BETWEEN 8.10 DEDUCED FROM EVALUATION JUST AS YOU CAN HEAR THE WATER SPLASHING IN THE BACKGROUND SLIDE. EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT ANY DAY OF THE THAT OPEN YOU CAN COME IN AT ANY POINT IN TIME ENOUGH FOR SOME EVALUATIONS WE ALWAYS HAVE A CERTIFIED SO MUCH DOCTOR ON SITE THAT HAVE YOUR CHILD TAKE A SWIM ASSESSMENT. ♪ >> I'M STACEY LASALLE AND THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY OF NORTH PORT AND I'M GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT HAVING AN EVACUATION PLAN IT'S A POINT HAVE AN EVACUATION PLAN AHEAD OF TIME AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO WRITE IT DOWN BECAUSE THAT WAY YOU HAVE IT SOMEWHERE PRESENT EVERYBODY IN YOUR FAMILY CAN SEE IT AND KEEP IT FRESH IN THEIR MINDS AND YOU WANT TO ALSO SHARE IT WITH PEOPLE IN YOUR FAMILY OR YOUR NEIGHBORS SO THAT THEY KNOW WHAT YOUR PLANS ARE AHEAD OF TIME AND HOW TO GET A HOLD OF YOUR WAY TO LOOK FOR YOU AFTER A DISASTER FOR YOUR EVACUATION YOU SHOULD HAVE MULTIPLE ROUTES TO GET TO LOCATION. YOU'RE PLANNING TO GO TO JAIL BECAUSE TRAFFIC WAS TRAFFIC ON 75 MIGHT BE GRIDLOCKED THERE COULD BE SOME VERY GOOD BACK ROADS TO GET TO WHERE YOU'RE GOING THAT COULD GET YOU THERE MORE QUICKLY WITHOUT BEING STUCK IN TRAFFIC WHEN YOU'RE MAKING EVACUATION PLAN. WE USUALLY TELL YOU 4 DIFFERENT THINGS YOU SHOULD STAY HOME IF YOU ARE NOT IN HIS OWN THAT'S BEING EVACUATED AND IF YOUR HOME IS BUILT TO WITHSTAND THE FORECASTED STORM IF YOU CAN STAY HOME. AND YOU EVACUATE YOUR NEXT OPTION SHOULD BE TO GO TO A FRIEND OUR FAMILY'S HOME THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THE EVACUATION AREA AND IT IS STRUCTURALLY SOUND TO US AND THE STORM OPTION WOULD BE GO TO A HOTEL. THEY'RE MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE THAN I'VE ACCUSATION. CENTER'S 4TH OPTION WOULD BE TO GO TO ONE OF OUR EVACUATION CENTER SARASOTA COUNTY HAS FALLEN BACK AWAY SHUNS CENTER'S. THOSE CAN BE FOUND ON THEIR WEBSITE. >> WHY DO WE FLOOD. DURING SIGNIFICANT RAIN EVENTS NORTH PORT NEARLY ALWAYS FLOODS IN CERTAIN AREAS OF THE CITY. THIS IS THANKS TO THE LOCALLY NAMED MYAKKA HACHI CREEK ALSO KNOWN AS THE BIG SLEW WATERSHED. >> THE 195 SQUARE MILE DRAINAGE AREA FLOWS THROUGH DESOTO MANATEE AND SARASOTA COUNTIES THEN THROUGH OUR CITY TO EXIT AT CHARLOTTE HARBOR. AS THE CITY OF NORTH PORT IS LOCATED AT THE LOW END OF THE BIG SLEW WATERSHED DRAINAGE SYSTEM. THE CITY'S CURRENT FLOODING AND WATER QUALITY CONDITIONS ARE ATTRIBUTED NOT ONLY TO THE CITY'S GROWTH. BUT ALSO TO UPSTREAM RUNOFF IN THE DESOTO MANATEE AND SARASOTA COUNTY PORTIONS OF THE BIG SLOW. DURING SIGNIFICANT RAIN EVENTS PONDING CAN ALSO OCCUR PONDING OCCURS IN AIR AND TERRAIN OR SUPER SATURATED SOILS ARE MOVING ON WITH BACK-TO-BACK RAINFALL THE GROUND IS TORY CENTURY WHEN IT INCREASING DURING A STORM. >> THE CITY WORKS HARD TO MAINTAIN STORM WATER TYVIEN ROADSIDE SWALES AND RADIATION 79 MILES NAMED WATERWAYS, THE 2132 MILES OF RETENTION DITCHES THAT INTERCONNECT WITH IS THAT SHOULD GO TO THE CITY THERE READ. >> THIS I I DO WAIT. AND THAT WILL SIGNIFY. >> COMMISSIONER LANGDON LET'S WASTE VOTE. VICE MAYOR YES. >> MIKE MAYERS YES YES. >> MISTER AVERAGE. YES. >> OKAY THAT PASSES 5 TO ONE TAKEAWAY CITY SUMMER 2024 DASH 14 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY IN PORT FEELING TRAPPED OR 29 THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE RELATING TO SIGN REGULATIONS REGULATIONS AND CREATING A NEW CHAPTER 5 SIGNS. FINDINGS PROVIDING FOR COMPLEX PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE ALRIGHT CITY MANAGER THIS IS YOUR ITEM. >> THINK YOU WE ARE WE HAVE MISSION THAT WE WANT REVIEW TODAY AND YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS HAPPY THERE'S NO VISITATION WE'RE TRYING THE QUESTIONS K THIS. >> CHART. ALL RIGHT COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. >> PAID ONLINE FOR 10 JUST CUT RIGHT TO THE CHANGE FROM 4 TENANTS AS. THE GENERAL REQUIREMENTS, MENTIONS OF SEYMOUR AND DECENT DESIGN DISPLAY STATEMENT CHARACTER ILLUSTRATION GETS TO DETERMINE THAT BECAUSE THE EXISTING CODE REFERENCE A STATE STATUTE. THIS ONE DOES NOT. >> WE HAVE THAT QUESTION COME UP THE PLANNING AND ZONING ADVISORY BOARD AND YOU KNOW A CONCERN THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD STRIKE WE HAVE DISCUSSED WITH OUTSIDE COUNSEL. WE ARE ALL VERY WELL AWARE OF OUR LIMITATIONS AS TO THE DEFINITION OF OBSCENE AND ANY ENFORCEMENT THEY'RE ALL OF THE FALL TO FEDERAL CASE LAW. SO FOR EXAMPLE WE CANNOT ENFORCE ON. EXPLETIVE. POLITICAL THANK YOUR. IT NEEDS TO RISE ABOVE AND BEYOND AND IN THE ABOUT WE HAVE ANY TYPES OF THOSE ISSUES ARISE WE WILL DEFINITELY HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR DOING THAT IN ADVANCE OF AN ACTING ANY ENFORCEMENT PROCEDURES. >> YOU >> KNOW OUR CITY'S BEST INTEREST TO JUST STRIKE ONE FOR 10 ENTIRELY. >> BECAUSE OUTSIDE COUNSEL HAS INDICATED IT IT'S AT OUR DISCRETION PROVIDED THERE IS CLEAR UNDERSTANDING THAT ENFORCEMENT ONLY BE UNDER COMMISSIONER OF SCENE. >> I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST REMOVING IT ENTIRELY BECAUSE THAT'S A WHOLE PERSON PURPOSE OF US PRETTY MUCH HAVING TO REDO OUR ENTIRE SO THAT WE DON'T MAKE GET INTO THAT KIND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY CONVERSATION YOU WANT TO HAVE OR DO YOU WANT JUST GET A CONSENSUS TO REMOVE LINE FOR 10 >> I HAVE WAY QUITE COMES >> I'M LEAVING IT IN DOES IT SO GIVE US A SAFETY NASH ARE YOU KNOW I MEAN WE WOULD HAVE SOME LATITUDE TERMS OF HOW ENFORCE IT CORRECT. >> BY LEAVING AND WE HAVE SECTION 2 A ABOUT THAT WE DO WANT TO ACT THAT WHERE AN INITIATING A CODE ENFORCEMENT CASE BASED ADMIRAL DEFINITION, MY PRESENT A LITTLE MORE OF A BUT AGAIN IT IT CAN GO EITHER EITHER WAY PER THE ON. >> I WOULDN'T WANT TO BE ON THE JURY OF >> MY QUESTION A CONSENSUS TO REMOVE LINE FOR TENT. >> AND I JUST WE ARE RELYING ON OUTSIDE COUNSEL FOR THE LEGAL ADVICE HERE. >> BUT THERE. >> MISS BARNES IS SAYING IS CORRECT. THERE IS FEDERAL CASE LAW GIVES INDICATIONS HERE ABSENT AND EAST AS SHE SAID NOT EXPLETIVE IT'S TYPICALLY SOMETHING THAT IS SEXUAL AND MADE SURE TO SEXUAL ACT, I MEAN THERE ARE CRITERIA. IN CASE LAW. DON'T HAVE YEAR. AND ON YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE DIFFICULTY HAVING A BASIS TO DISALLOW SO IT'S JUST A LITTLE OK THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL, YOUR DIRECTION. ONE OF THEM. TAKE IT SO. ABOUT WE TAKE IT OUT. AND IF OUTSIDE COUNSEL SAYS WE NEED TO LEAVE IT IN AND. HAVE THAT DISCUSSION THAT SECONDARY. IT'S I WOULD JUST SAY STAFF IS FINE THE WAY IT IS. >> LEGAL COUNSEL COUNSEL DID RECOMMEND. SAID COULD BE REMOVED, BUT THEY PUT IT THERE FOR A REASON TO GIVE US THAT ABILITY TO OR AT ALL. I AGREE WITH. SITE THAT IT IS SOMETHING THEY USED TO HANG. HAVING FALSE OTHERWISE WE WILL COMMISSIONER DOUBT IT MAKE IT. SO JUST LIKE. ALL RIGHT ANYTHING ELSE. FEW OTHERS. TEMPORARY SIGNS. >> CAN YOU GIVE A FEW EXAMPLES OF TEMPORARY SIGNS. >> GRAND OPENING. ACTUAL SALE OPEN ELSE 50% OFF. OPEN HOUSE COULD BE FOR A NON RESIDENTIAL USE LIKE A SOCIAL SERVICE ACTIVITY. >> IT COULD BE WERE CLOSING. LIQUIDATION SALE. >> WHAT ABOUT OPEN HOUSE THAT I'M SELLING MY HOUSE ON MY OWN PERSONAL. >> PROPERTY FALL UNDER LIMITED DURATION SCIENCE. RACEWAY SIGNS. 3931. THE CHAMBER REQUESTS THAT A RACEWAY SIGN THE PERMITTED. >> STAFF SAYS THAT ITS NOT AESTHETIC LEE >> AND THAT IS A COMMISSION I HAVE PICTURE OF WHAT A RACE WHITE RACE SIGNS LOOK LIKE. DON'T KNOW WE ARE IN THE BUSINESS OF SAYING WHAT SYSTEMICALLY PLEASING OR NOT THAT'S VERY SUBJECTIVE. I SEE NOTHING WRONG WITH A PASS THIS DOWN OR YOU CAN PUT OTHERS TO SEE. BUT I I SEE NOTHING WRONG WITH HAVING ALLOWING RACE WHEN SIGNS. SHE'S FROM THAT STATEMENT THAT WAS IN THE MEMO THAT WE RECEIVED FROM STAFF. >> REASON WHY IT'S AND THEN. I MEAN IT'S IN EVERYTHING I DO FOR HIM, IT IS A REASON WHY IT SHOULDN'T BE IN THERE. I GUESS. >> NOT CHAMBER'S REQUESTING THERE'S A RACEWAY SIGNS THAT. >> ALL OVER. >> THAT OUR CITY I MAYBE THERE ARE REALLY HAVEN'T PAID ATTENTION. BUT THEY ARE USED VERY WIDESPREAD. >> AND >> THEY'RE THAT UGLY PLEASING THAT'S WHY THEY'RE ON THE PROHIBITED LIST IN THE CHAMBERS REQUESTING THAT WE ALLOW. I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT THE WILL OF THE BOARD IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION AND WE'LL GET THE VOTE. BECAUSE STAFF ULTIMATELY. >> SAID THAT IT >> UP TO THE HOWEVER, THE CITY COMMISSION HAS DISCRETION TO REQUIRE THE REMOVAL OF THE SAME TYPE FROM THE PROHIBITED SCIENCE SECTION. HER MINUTES ON. I WANT TO FIX IT'S JUST IT'S ALL THAT THAT THE THE STYLE. WHY THE COMMERCE WANTS ON WHEN I READ IT I THOUGHT IT WAS SIGN OF PEOPLE I THINK THEY CALL THEM RICE WINE BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE THE RACEWAY BEHIND THAT THE SIGN. >> RACEWAY IS MECHANISM FOR THE >> REALLY HAVE TO LOOK AT AMONG THE MOTION MAYOR TO >> THE RACEWAY SIGNS. >> ALL RIGHT A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL TO ALLOW BRAITHWAITE >> AND SIGN ORDINANCE WE HAVE A SECOND FOR THAT. GIVE IT A SECOND OKAY WE HAVE A SECOND MADE BY. COMMISSIONER LANGDON. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. LET'S DO A POINTS. I YES DIDN'T SAY. YES, NICK DO, >> COMMISSIONER MUCH IS THAT YES OKAY SO PAST I WOULD JUST MAKE COMMENT IF I MAY THAT ARE THEY'RE VERY COMMON. >> AND I GUESS BEAUTY IS IN THE EYE BEHOLDER I FIND OTHER SIGNS MORE THIS WAY POLICING RACE WAY ♪ >> YOU CAN LOOK I'M A IF YOU LOOK AT THE TABLE LINE ONE ♪ >> 28 TABLE NUMBER 5 DASH 3 DASH ONE DASH ONE. >> IT IS FOR EITHER A WALL SIGN OR STUDENT SIGN IS WHAT I GUESS SUBJECT MATTER IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT. MAXIMUM STANDARDS COLUMN. IT SAYS FREE STANDING HEIGHT LIKE 3 FEET. BUT THE SIGN TYPE IS A WALL FREESTANDING I'M CURIOUS WHY ARE WE PUTTING FREESTANDING ON ALL OF THEM. IT MAKES LOOK LIKE THERE'S DIFFERENT STANDARDS FOR WALL STANDARD. I WON'T SIGN JUST TO SEE WHAT I'M GETTING AT. >> I'M TRYING TO GET A TABLE APOLOGIZE. THAT WAS LINE. >> I'M 1 ONE TO TO 5 DASH 3 DASH 1, >> ASSIGN TYPE WHILE FREESTANDING BUT UNDER MAXIMUM STANDARDS IT SAYS FREESTANDING SIGNED HEIGHT 3 FEET. >> BECAUSE DON'T WANT BUY THE HEIGHT OF THE LAST TIME BUT WE NEED TO CLARIFY THE HEIGHT STANDINGS >> WAS THERE NO MAXIMUM STANDARD FOR A WHILE WAS HIGH. >> WOULD BE PLACED ON A BUILDING ALSO WITHIN THE PERMISSIBLE. MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT FOR THE ZONING DISTRICT MUCH >> WHILE SIGN COULD LIKE 3 STORIES TOP IT COULD BE. >> I CANNOT BE ON THE NOT BE A ROOF SPOT. >> FINE >> WITH THE WAY IT'S DRAFTED DON'T FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD REGULATE ON WAT STORY ASSIGNED CAN BE PLACED PRIVATE PROPERTY. >> I GUESS THAT MY QUESTION WOULD BE IS WHY ARE WE THE MENTIONING OF ALL TIME WHEN THERE ARE REALLY NO STANDARDS HEIGHT. FOR A LONG TIME. SHOULD WE PUT FREESTANDING SIGN 3 C AND THEN NO REGULATION FOR WALLS. >> OK I WILL MOVE OK. >> MISCELLANEOUS SIGNS ON LINE 1, 1, 8, 0, THESE ARE THESE DON'T HAVE THE DEFINITIONS THERE ARE NOT CHARTS CALLED MISCELLANEOUS SIGNS. THERE ARE DEFINITIONS AND IN THE CHART FOR CHANGEABLE COPY AND DIRECTION ON MENU SANDWICH BOARDS ALL THE OTHER ONES. BUT THE TITLE OF IT IS MISSING IT'S A QUESTION WANT. IT'S JUST MOVE I'M NOT SAYING. IT'S >> MANY COMMISSIONER EMERICH SHOULD YOU TIME HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. ♪ >> NO MA'AM. ♪ >> ALL RIGHT. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. PARK IS THERE ANY PUBLIC SORRY. I DID I'M SORRY FOR THAT. ♪ ♪ POSING THIS PORTION PUBLIC HEARING AND I'M LOOKING FOR MOTION. I SHOW THAT I MOVE TO CONTINUE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 14. >> THEY I GETTING YOUR LANGUAGE THAT CLERK AND SOSA SAYING >> INCORPORATING >> APPROVED MOTION. >> SO CONTINUE THE ORDINANCE JUST SECOND READING ON AUGUST 6 2024. >> SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON AND SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR. THE WHEN READ THE BACK FOR US. >> MR. >> YES. TO FIX THAT OKAY SO NOTHING ELSE LET. DON THAT VICE YES, MAYOR ZS LINED THEM SAY YES DON'T THIS. COMMISSIONER AVERAGE. YES, OKAY THAT PASSES BY TO 0. MOVING ON ITEM H DO I HAVE THAT RIGHT. I'M HOPING SOMEBODY HERE HAS BACK AND TO GET MY RIGHT. LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO DIRECT CITY TO READ THIS BY TITLE ONLY SO MOVED. ALL RIGHT WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON AND THE CITY CLERK TO READ THIS BY TITLE ONLY AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR. THERE'S NOTHING ELSE LET'S VICE MAYOR. I'M A YES. LAND AND SAY YES. I YES. COMMISSIONER EMRICH EMRICK ALL RIGHT, PLEASE READ THIS. >> I I ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 15 AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY IN NORTH PORT FLORIDA RELATING TO THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP REPEALING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2010 15 AND THE OFFICIAL ZONING AS AMENDED ADOPTING A NEW OFFICIAL ZONING MAP PURSUANT TO CHAPTER ONE ARTICLE 2 SECTIONS 2001.3 OF THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS PROVIDING FOR COMPLEX PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> THANK YOU. MANAGER THIS IS YOUR ITEM. >> THANK YOU, MADAM STAFF YOU. NOT A NEW OFFICIAL WITH IMPROVED OR DECEMBER 28. WE FORECAST 15 WAS THE SECOND READING AUGUST 6 24. THANK >> ALL RIGHT NOW ARE UP FOR QUESTIONS. FOR THIS ITEM. NOT SEEING ANYTHING. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. >> BEFORE WE START OUR PART AS A POSSIBLE TO GET A MAP ON THE SCREEN PARCELS 1, 1, 2, 8, 2, 2, 4, 2, 2, 9, AS WELL AS PART OF 1, 1, 2, 8, 2, 2, 4, 2, 3, 0, OR IS THAT NOT POSSIBLE. THAT'S THE QUESTION A LITTLE BIT TO THE CURRENT ZONING THOSE 2 PIECES OF LAND. IF NOT YOU CAN START MY TIME OUT TO START TALKING. MATTER BECAUSE THAT'S LET ME ASK YOU GUYS ARE PRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL THOSE 2 PARCELS OF LAND WHICH ARE GOING TO BE REZONED ACTIVITIES THAT ARE 60, YOU KNOW WHAT THAT ZONE RIGHT NOW. IS IT THAT WAS WHAT I THOUGHT TOO WHEN I PROPERTY IN TWENTY-TWENTY HAVE RECENTLY WHERE LIKE THE LAST BREAK THAT NO RESIDENTIAL PERMITS HAVE BEEN ISSUED IN THAT AREA 2006. 2006 BY COMMISSIONERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND ON JULY FIRST OF THIS YEAR A GENTLEMAN THAT'S BEEN TRYING TO HELP ME OUT ON A STAFF MEMBER HERE IS A WITNESS IN THE ROOM RIGHT NOW. IT'S PERFECT FOR HERE. I WOULD MEET WITH THEM THEY HAD A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS FOR HIM AS THE HOW I NEED TO GET MY PERMITS FILE FOR US THAT I CAN BUILD BEFORE DATES OF AUGUST 6 OCTOBER 28 WHEN THE CHANGES ARE GOING TO TAKE PLACE. REPORT HAS ME SOME ANSWERS BEING THE HEAD OF ZONING CITY OF PORT. >> BUT YOU CAN'T GIVE ME THE ANSWERS NOBODY IS TELLING HIM EASY ANSWERS. I BELIEVE IF YOU GUYS CALL MISTER FLORES UP AS A STAFF MEMBER RIGHT NOW I DON'T THINK THAT HE'S EVEN AWARE THAT NO PERMITS HAVE BEEN ISSUED IN THAT AREA SINCE 2006 WHICH MEANS I'VE BEEN COMPLETELY BAMBOOZLED BY THE CITY OF PORT BECAUSE I'M SUPPOSED TO BE HERE TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW LIVE MY FROM BEFORE THE DATE ON THE SCREEN FOR THIS OCTOBER 28 CHANGE THAT GOES INTO EFFECT AUGUST 6. BUT EVERY TIME I ASKED THE CITY OF OWNING PEOPLE WHAT I NEED TO DO TO APPLY FOR A PERMIT SHOULD OF THEM SINCE I DID THE FIRST STATE TO DO JUST BEFORE I EVEN BOUGHT IT FOR ME. NO MISTER CHAIRMAN WE HAVEN'T GIVEN THAT ANY RESIDENTIAL BUILDING PERMITS THERE SINCE 2006 TO BE COMPLETELY WASTING YOUR MONEY AND WASTING YOUR TIME. >> SO. >> THAT HAS TO COUNCIL MEMBERS WHY AM I STANDING HERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO APPLY FOR A PERMIT BY THAT TIME NO PERMITS ARE BEING ISSUED SINCE 2006 AND THEN GENTLEMAN IN THE ROOM WHO'S BEEN TRYING HELP MY FAMILY. >> AFTER I BELIEVE EVEN FOR THE TIMES I TALK TO MY THE GENTLEMAN AS A WITNESS IN THIS ROOM RIGHT NOW WHAT THE CITY OF NORFOLK BEEN TRYING TO HELP MY FAMILY AND I WE'VE YOU CALLING TO THE STAND I DON'T THINK HE'S EVEN AWARE OF WHAT BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'LL BE IN CONTACT WITH EACH OF YOU BY MAIL EMAIL AND CALLING ALL YOUR OFFICES TO TRY TO HAVE MEETINGS WITH EACH OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY TO POSSIBLE. THANK THANK YOU. THAT'S >> ALL RIGHT BUZZING THIS PORTION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I'M LOOKING FOR MOTION. >> I MAKE MOTION MAYOR GO AHEAD I MOVE TO CONTINUE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 15 TO SECOND READING ON AUGUST 6 2024. >> AND MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON TO CONTINUE ORDINANCE 2024 DASH 15 TO SECOND READING ON AUGUST 6 2024 AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR STOKES. >> NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. VOICE VOTE VICE MAYOR SPARES US YES, DIDN'T SAY, YES, I DON'T KNOW. AND COMMISSIONER I MEAN YES. AND SO THAT HAS IS 4 TO 0. WE'RE ONE ORDER ONE HERE I GO AGAIN NOW. WHAT THEY LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE REASON FOR DOING THAT. >> I JUST SENT IT BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN TRYING NOT TO HARM. RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS WITH THIS REZONE. BUT YEAH THIS REZONING IS GOING TO HARM SO MANY PEOPLE. AND THOSE THOSE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS, THERE'S NO DATA OR TIMELINE THAT SHOWS. >> THAT THIS WILL FROM THAT WILL BE FRUITFUL. >> AND THERE ARE OTHER LOCATIONS AVAILABLE AND 2. EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS. >> I'M OKAY. >> LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM. 2020 FORD DASH 16. CITY CLERK EMOTION TO GET THIS. BY TITLE ONLY MOVED. >> OK THANK YOU. I HAVE A MOTION MADE BY VICE MAYOR STOKES FOR THE CITY CLERK TO READ THIS BY TITLE ONLY AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL, LET'S DO VOICE VOTE. >> VICE MAYOR SPARES OR Z S LANGDON YES, NO YES. COMMISSIONER ELRICH. THAT ASKED THAT'S 5 TO 0 TAKEAWAYS >> ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 16 AN ORDINANCE OF THE FL AMENDING THE CODE OF THE CITY OF NORTH PORT FLORIDA SECTION 2.8 TO CAUSE ADDITIONAL MATTERS CONSISTENCY WITH THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WRITING FOR FINDINGS PROVIDING FOR COMPLEX PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION AND PROVIDING EFFECTIVE DATE. >> THANK YOU CITY MANAGER THIS IS YOUR ITEM. >> THEY COME THAT ASK THAT ORDINANCE NUMBER 2021 16 REGARDING MATTERS. THEY CONTINUE WITH THE SECOND READING AUGUST 6 20.4. >> ALL RIGHT SO OPENING UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ITS ORDINANCE REGARDING PROVIDES A JUDICIAL MATTERS. >> MY QUESTIONS ARE DURING THE ULDC DISCUSSION ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER EMRICH SHE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ONE. NO MA'AM. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SO I'M POSING THIS PORTION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AND LOOKING FOR A MOTION. >> MAKE THAT WE HAVE TO CONTINUE ORDINANCE 2020 FOR THEIR 16 TO SECOND READING 6 2024 2ND. >> ALL RIGHT WE HAVE A MOTION MADE VICE MAYOR STOKES TO CONTINUE ORDINANCE 2024 DASH 16 TO SECOND READING ON AUGUST 6 2024. AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON THAT THERE'S NOTHING LET'S DO A VOTE VICE MAYOR OF MAYOR THE S LINE DIDN'T YES DO, YES, AND COMMISSIONER EMRICH. >> YES ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. THAT MOTION PASSES 5, 0, AND COMING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 17. I NEED MOTION TO DIRECT THE CITY CLERK TO READ THIS BY TITLE ONLY SO MOVED. WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON FOR THE CITY CLERK TO READ THIS BY TITLE ONLY AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL WAS TO A VOICE VOTE VICE MAYOR MANAGE, MAYOR ZS LANGDON YES, DON'T. AND COMMISSIONER EMRICH. >> YES. ALL RIGHT PASSES 5 TO 0 TAKEAWAY CITY >> ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 17 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY IN NORTH PORT FLORIDA AMENDING THE CODE OF THE CITY OF NORTH PORT FLORIDA SECTION 2 DASH 5, 1, 1, RELATED FINES FOR TREE PROTECTION VIOLATIONS. FOR FINDINGS PROVIDING FOR COMPLEX PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. OPENING UP COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. >> ONLY QUESTION I IS REGARDING THE. >> THE >> ACTIVITY THAT REQUIRES AUTHORIZATION PERSON TO YOU AND TO CHAPTER 2 WITHOUT FIRST OBTAINING THAT AUTHORIZATION. DURING THE ULDC DISCUSSION I WANTED TO ASK TREE PERMITS. I'M CURIOUS WHAT AUTHORIZATION TO THE PEOPLE NEED TO HOMEOWNER PROPERTY OWNER, WHATEVER NEED TO OBTAIN. >> LAURIE ARMS ASSISTANT DIRECTOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. UNDER THE NEW ULDC PROCESS TREE REMOVAL. >> LAND CLEARING UNDERSTORY UNDER BRUSH REMOVAL IS ALL UNDER THE CERTIFICATE OF ZONING COMPLIANCE. AS MENTIONED IN THE PAST THAT REMOVES IT AND FROM THAT BUILDING PERMIT THAT PROCESS AND REFLECTS THAT BEING REVIEWED FOR COMPLIANCE WITH THE ULDC. >> CALLED THE WET AGAIN CERTIFICATE OF SOUND COMPLIANCE. WE HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION KNOW. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. CLOSING THIS PORTION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AND LOOKING FOR A MOTION. >> I MAKE A MOTION IT TO CONTINUE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 17. >> SECOND READING ON AUGUST 6. >> I'LL SECOND THAT. ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON TO CONTINUE THIS ORDINANCE 2024 DASH 17 TO THE SECOND READING ON AUGUST 6TH AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR STOKES. THERE'S NOTHING ELSE. LET'S DO A VICE-MAYOR SPARES US. THEY ARE THE LANGDON YES DO YES. RICH EMIRATE YES. OH YES. THANK YOU FOR THAT PASSES 5 TO 0. WE'LL ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 18. BUT THE PROMOTION SO THE CITY CLERK HENRY DESPITE I DON'T KNOW SECOND ALL RIGHT HAVE A MOTION MADE BY VICE MAYOR STOPES TO DIRECT THE CITY CLERK TO READ THIS FIGHT I WE IN THAT FUNDED BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON LET'S TO A VOICE VOTE VICE MAYOR. YES, THEY ARE MIND AND YES. COMMISSIONER EMRICH EMRICK ALRIGHT, THAT PASSES TAKEN AWAY ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 18 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY IN NORTH PORT FLORIDA AMENDING THE CODE OF THE CITY UPDATE REFERENCES FOR CONSISTENCY WITH THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. >> MANY CHAPTER 2 ARTICLE FOR DIVISION ONE HEARING OFFICERS MINUTES AFTER 4 BOARDS AND COMMITTEES TO ADDRESS COMMISSION LIAISONS AND THE ART ADVISORY BOARD MANY CHAPTER, 22 ARTICLE 2 FERTILIZER AND LANDSCAPE MANAGEMENT. MANY CHAPTER, 59 SECTION 59 DASH ONE PARKING AND STORAGE OF CERTAIN VEHICLES ON RESIDENTIAL LOTS WRITING FOR FINDINGS PROVIDING FOR COMPLEX PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU. CITY MANAGER THIS IS YOUR ITEM. >> THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHERE THAT PASSED A ORDINANCE NUMBER 2 24 18. FOR ASSISTANCE THE WITH UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO SECOND READING ON 24. THANK YOU. >> I'M LOOKING FOR ANY COMMISSIONER QUESTION US. COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. >> YEAH, KIND OF CONFUSED WITH THIS WE HAVE A ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS. AND WE HAVE A ZONING HEARING OFFICER. I PULLED UP BOTH OF THOSE IN OUR CITY CODE. >> AND I ALSO REMEMBER COMMISSION BACK IN 2022. MADE A MOTION TO TRANSITION. ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS TO THE HEARING OFFICER THAT NEVER REALLY HAPPENED MIGHT HAVE BEEN BECAUSE WE WERE REDOING ULDC WHO KNOWS. BUT IF THE ZONING BOARD OF THEM. IF THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS HAS AUTHORITY. THAT IS SHARED WITH HIS SONY HEARING OFFICER NOW WITH THE NEW CODE ZONING HEARING OFFICER HEARS VARIANCES WHICH ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS CAN ALSO DO. I'M CONFUSED ABOUT THE OVERLAP AND I'M HOPING YOU CAN GIVE YOU SOME CLARITY. >> THE ORDINANCE FOR UPHILL SECTIONS THAT REFERENCE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS. PLAN IS TO HAVE THE ZONING HEARING OFFICER HERE ALL VARIANCES AND THAT IS DUE TO THE CHALLENGES WE FACED ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS MEMBERS ON BOARD AS MATTER OF FACT RIGHT NOW OR FOR THE MORE EMERGENCY ORDER WE WENT WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO HOLD MEETINGS WITH THE BOARD OF ACCOUNTS WE NEED TO HAVE THE HEARING OFFICER COME ANYWAY. >> ARE REPEALING ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS. HERE. >> THE WOMAN LOOKING TO THAT I BELIEVE YOU'LL SEE THERE'S SOME REFERENCES A ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS. THAT ARE STRUCK AND THIS ORDINANCE AND THE CITY CODE. BUT IF I'M CORRECT THE PROVISION IN OUR CODES THAT REALLY SET FORTH THE POWERS AND DUTIES OF ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS HEARD IN THE ULDC SO THAT'S ADDRESSED ULDC REWRITE. >> THE ATTORNEY SLAYTON I WOULD HAVE REACHED THAT POINT AND THAT IS CORRECT CHAPTER 2 OF THE CURRENT ULDC DISCUSSES THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS AND THEIR ROLE. >> AND ACTION WAS REPEALED BY ORDINANCE 2023 DASH 2024 DASH 13. >> AND YOU SEE AT LEAST ONE REFERENCE BEING STRUCK ON ONE 7475 OF THIS ORDINANCE. >> OTHER QUESTION I HAVE REGARDING THE FERTILIZER. VERY PROTECTIVE OVER FERTILIZER BAN. BECAUSE WE INSTITUTED THE NEW RULES PRIOR TO THE STATE PREEMPTING US. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT BY AMENDING ANYTHING IN THIS CODE ARE WE OPENING OURSELVES TOO. POSSIBLY NOT BEING ABLE TO FOLLOW OUR NEWLY ADOPTED PEOPLE WHATEVER FOR. >> ALLIES SUBJECT THEMSELVES TO HAVING TO REDO CERTAIN THINGS TO MATCH SOMETHING. >> MODIFICATION IN THIS ORDINANCE IS VERY LIMITED AS MATTER OF FACT IT JUST REMOVES THE. UPDATED REQUIREMENT THAT. THE FERTILIZER APPLICATION APPLICATORS PROVIDE PARTICULARLY CAN'T WITHIN A 180 DAYS OF THE ARTICLE WHICH WAS LONG AGO. THERE IS NOTHING ON THIS AMENDMENT THAT WOULD SUFFER OR MAKE ON HORSE OF ALL THE REMAINING PROVISIONS CHOPPER. SCIENCE SECTION. 22 DASH 60 SEX OR THE ENTIRE ARTICLE 2 FERTILIZER LANDSCAPE MANAGEMENT. >> YOU SAY SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT GOING HAVE TO FOLLOW STATE LINES BY HIM THAT'S SOMETIMES WHEN WE AMEND THE CODE THAT WE'RE PREEMPTED FROM THAT OPENS US TO NOW HAVING TO FOLLOW WHATEVER STATE LAW SAYS IT'S ALL THAT'S WHAT I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT BECAUSE I REMEMBER WANTING TO GET RID OF THAT SENTENCE WHEN WE ADOPTED THE NEW FLORIDA LAWS OR THING AND WE KIND OF WENT LET'S JUST LEAVE IT DIDN'T. BECAUSE WE KNEW WE KNEW THAT THE STATE WAS GOING TO BE. BRINGING SOMETHING AND THEY SIGNED IT SO MAYBE YOU CAN JUST DOUBLE CHECK TIRED TO IT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO AVOID OFF. ONE OF THE LAST ONES THAT WAS ABLE TO GET IT UNDER THE WATER. >> THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAS REVIEWED ORDINANCE THAT'S A MATTER THAT THE STRIKING OF THAT LANGUAGE WAS TURNING. >> CAN AND THEN OTHERS QUESTIONS HERE. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. ALL RIGHT SOME OF THE PORTION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AND LOOKING FOR MOTION. PAGE >> ORDINANCE 24 >> WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY VICE MAYOR STARTS TO CONTINUE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH A TEAM TO THE SECOND READING ON AUGUST 6 AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER THERE'S NOTHING ELSE WILL DO A VOICE VOTE. VICE-MAYOR IS A YES LANGDON YES DO YES. COMMISSIONER EMRICH. I MEAN YES ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU AND THAT MOTION PASSES 5 TO >> WILL THEY ITEM ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 19 I NEED A MOTION TO CITY CLERK HENRY SECOND ALRIGHT, VICE MAYOR HAS MADE A MOTION TO DIRECT THE CITY CLERK READ THIS BY TITLE ONLY AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER. >> SO WE'LL DO A VOICE VOTE. I VICE MAYOR'S YES, HERE'S LANGDON YES. YES COMMISSIONER MERGE. YES, ALL RIGHT SO THAT. PASSES 5 TO 0. >> CITY THIS IS AND NUMBER 2024 DASH 19 AND ORDINANCES AND HEARTS ARE REPEALING ARTICLE ONE AND SECTIONS 26 1926 THROUGH 2026 TO 22 THROUGH 26. I'M SORRY I DON'T AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY IN NORTH PORT FLORIDA REPEALING ARTICLE ONE AND SECTIONS 26 1926 DASH 2026 DASH 22 THROUGH 26 35 OF CHAPTER, 26 OF THE CODE OF THE CITY IN NORTH PORT FLORIDA RELATING TO FIRE PREVENTION AND PROTECTION AND AMENDING THE CODE OF THE CITY IN NORTH PORT, FLORIDA SECTIONS 26 DASH ONE 26 DASH 2026 DASH 22 THROUGH 26 DASH 23 RELATING TO FIRE SAFETY AND PREVENTION, PROVIDING DIRECTION FOR STATE FIRE MARSHAL REVIEW, PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS PROVIDING FOR COMPLEX PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CODIFICATION AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> THANK YOU CITY MANAGER THIS IS YOUR ITEM. >> OF YEAR TOO 19 KILLING THE ARTICLE SECONDS AFTER MEANT WITH SECOND MEETING ON AUGUST 6TH STREET REPORT I THANK YOU. >> DO WE HAVE ANY COMMISSION QUESTIONS AT THIS. >> HOT TOPIC GET IT. >> GETTING PUNCHY NOW JOKE UP. NOTHING OKAY. ALL RIGHT, I'M SAYING NOTHING SO IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. >> ALL RIGHT SOME BELIEVE THIS PORTION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I'M LOOKING FOR A DO THAT I MOVED TO CONTINUE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 THAT'S 19 TO SECOND READING AUGUST ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON OR ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 MORE DASH 19 TO THE TO GO TO SECOND READING ON AUGUST 6TH AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. THERE'S NOTHING ELSE WE WILL DO A VOICE VOTE VICE MAYOR VICE MAYOR G MAYOR ZS LANDON, YES, DO. YES. COMMISSIONER AVERAGE. >> I MEAN YES ALL RIGHT SO THAT PASSES 5 TO >> MOVING ON TO ITEM AND ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH AND AGAIN I NEED A MOTION TO THE TO OR CAN BE THIS HOW CAN WE HAVE A MOTION VICE MAYOR STOKES TO DIRECT FOR THE CITY CLERK TO BY TITLE ONLY AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON SO WE'LL DO A VICE MAYOR YES, THEY ARE THE LANGAN DON'T MISTER YES 5 TO 0 CITY >> ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 20 ORDINANCE OF THE CITY IN NORTH PORT FLORIDA REPEALING SECTION 34 ONE OF THE CODE OF THE CITY IN NORTH PORT FLORIDA RELATING TO THE MOBILE FOOD VENDORS, PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS PROVIDING FOR COMPLEX PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING CODIFICATION PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE ALRIGHT CITY MANAGER YOUR ITEM. >> THANK YOU CITY APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 OR DASH 20 WHICH IS REPEALED TERMINATED TOO LITTLE. FOOD VENDORS AND WE ASKED CONTINUE READING ON AUGUST 6 OF 2024. THANK >> THANK FOR COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS GO AHEAD COMMISSIONER FROM. I'M NOT SAYING ANY. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT IS ALRIGHT SOME BOATING THIS PORTION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AND LOOKING FOR EMOTIONAL AHEAD. >> I MOVED TO CONTINUE ORDINANCE 2024 DASH 20 THE SECOND READING ON 8/6/2020 FOR >> WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY VICE MAYOR STEPS TO CONTINUE ORDINANCE 2024 DASH 20 TO SECOND READING AUGUST 6 THAT WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE WE WILL DO A VOICE VOTE VICE MAYOR PLACE SO OR Z S YES, DO, COMMISSIONER AVERAGE. ALL RIGHT SO THAT. ARIES 5 TO 0. MOVING TO ITEM N. ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 20 WON. AGAIN A MOTION SO THE CITY CLERK HENRY THIS BY TITLE ONLY. SECOND OKAY I HAVE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL TO FOR THE CITY CLERK TO READ THIS BY TITLE ONLY AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON. VICE MAYOR. THEY ARE ZS KNOW THAT YES, DON'T. COMMISSIONER ELRICH. YES ALL RIGHT SO THAT PASSES 5, 0 MOVING ON TO THE CITY READING IT I I DON'T OWN ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 21 AND ORDINANCE OF THE FL AMENDING THE CODE OF THE CITY AND LEARNED TO UPDATE REFERENCES TO THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT. >> AND CHECKED IT 34 LICENSES PERMITS AND MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS REGULATIONS ARTICLE 2 BUSINESS TAX RECEIPTS AND ARTICLE 4 ADULT ORIENTED BUSINESSES PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS PROVIDING FOR COMPLEX PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. ALRIGHT CITY MANAGER. THIS IS YOUR ITEM. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CITIES THAT THE COURT THAT CITY COMMISSIONERS WON 2024 DASH 20 WORLD WHICH INCLUDES DEBATES TO CHAPTERS AND ARTICLES TO CONTINUE WITH THE SECOND READING ON AUGUST 6 OF REPORT. >> ALL RIGHT MOVING ON COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS ABOUT ITEM. COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. >> AND LINE WITH 5151 IT'S RELATING TO DON'T USE AND HOW THE PERMIT APPLICATION IS TONIGHT. IT SAYS BICE THEY HAVE NOTIFY THE APPLICANTS BY OF THE DENIAL BY CERTIFIED MAIL OR HAND DELIVERING HAND DELIVERY DAYS I WOULD ASSUME ARE LONG GONE. I CAN'T IMAGINE SOMEBODY HAND DELIVERING THE DENIAL LETTER TO ANYBODY. I WOULD STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT WE CHANGE THAT VERBIAGE TO POSSIBLY ELECTRONIC MAIL. >> STAFF HAVE NO OBJECTION TO CHANGE HOWEVER WANT OFTEN THAT. >> CHANGES TO THIS CHAPTER OF THE CITY HAVE TO BE CAREFULLY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE BECAUSE OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT ISSUES. THEY'VE ACTUALLY LIMITED THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE MADE AND THIS ITERATION AND IT IS ON HOST ULDC LIST OF THINGS TO DO TO UPDATE THE CITY CODE SECTION TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS COMPLETELY COMPLIANT WITH ALL OF THE CASE LAW THAT IS THAT HAS BEEN. SENSE I BELIEVE 2002 WHEN THIS WAS PARTIALLY ADOPT. >> THAT'S RIGHT A COMMISSION. WE HAVE ADVISED STAFF TO MAKE NO SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES TO THIS CHAPTER AND THIS TYPE OF CLEANUP. DON'T WORRY TO BUSINESSES ARE VERY HEAVILY IMPACTED BY THE FIRST AMENDMENT AND AS FAR WE DO ANTICIPATE WE NEED SOME CLEAN UP TO THIS CHAPTER. BUT IT IS. LOOKING BACK TO YOUR ORDINANCE THAT LATEST SIGN COATS IT'S IT'S SORT OF THAT THE TYPE OF PROCEDURE TO DO. ♪ DISCOURAGED ANY SUBSTANTIVE ♪ CHANGES TO THE CHAPEL CASE WITH >> THINK FOR >> DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS HOPE WHEN YOU GUYS DO YOUR SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES YOU DEFINITELY LOOK AT LINE TO 96 BECAUSE IT'S UPDATED LANGUAGE WHEN YOU SAY THE NAME OF THE BUSINESS UNLESS AND UNTIL HE OR SHE SATISFIES THE FOLLOWING THAT'S NOT PROFESSIONAL LANGUAGE AT ALL. QUESTIONS. >> OKAY TO HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. POSING THIS PORTION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AND LOOKING FOR A IT I HAD I MOVED TO CONTINUE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 21 TO SECOND READING ON AUGUST 6. SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON TO CONTINUE ORDINANCE 2024 DASH 21 TO SECOND READING ON AUGUST 6 AND THAT SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR STOKES NOTHING ELSE WILL VOICE VICE MAYOR COMMISSIONERS, YES, THEY ARE THE S LANDON, NOW YES, MISTER AVERAGE. >> I MEAN YES. >> ALL RIGHT PASSES 5 TO 0 MOVING ON TO ITEM. ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 22 AGAIN I NEED A MOTION. THE CITY WORKED TO REBUILD MY ONLY I HAVE A MOTION MADE BY ICE PIERCE TOES FOR THE CITY CLERK TO READ THIS BY TITLE ONLY THAT WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON. WE WILL DO VOICE VOTE VICE MAYOR SHARES THE LANGDON DON'T. MISTER AVERAGE. YES ALL RIGHT SO THAT BY TITLE ONLY. >> CITY ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 22 AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY IN NORTH PARK FLORIDA RELATING TO SOLID WASTE MEN IN THE CODE OF THE CITY OF NORTH PORT, FL CHAPTER 62 SOLID WASTE ARTICLE SECTION DISPOSAL TO CLARIFY DEFINITIONS AND UPDATE REFERENCES PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS PROVIDING FOR COMPLEX PROVIDING SEVERABILITY PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> THANK YOU CITY MANAGER THIS IS YOUR RIGHT. >> BUT YOU KNOW WE'RE A CITY STAFF ASKED THAT THE CITY COMMISSION APPROVED ORDINANCE OVER 2024 22. FACTOR, 62 LATER SOLID WASTE SECOND READING AUGUST 6 TWEAK REPORT. THANK >> MOVING ON TO QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS. NOT SEEING ANY DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. BUT CLOSES PORTION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AND LOOK FOR A MOTION MAKE IT VICE MAYOR TO CONTINUE ORDINANCE 2024 22 2ND READING ON 8/6/2020. >> I WE MADE BY VICE MAYOR STOVES CONTINUE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 20 2 2ND READING AUGUST 6TH AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE WILL DO A VOICE VOTE VICE MAYOR BASED THERE'S YES MAYOR ZS LANGDON DO. COMMISSIONER ELRICH. YES AT PASSES 5 TO 0 ALL RIGHT. >> AND ON TO ITEM >> ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 23, OR A 3 THIS BY TITLE ONLY >> IN >> THE MOTION MADE BY VICE MAYOR STOKES. THE CITY CLERK TO READ THIS BY TITLE ONLY AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON LET'S DO A VOICE VOTE. I VICE MAYOR'S THEY ARE THE LANGDON YES DO YES. THIS YEAR AVERAGE. >> YES ALL RIGHT THAT PASSES 5 TO 0. ALL CITY CLERK TAKE AWAY. >> ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 OR DASH 23. AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY IN NORTH PORT FLORIDA RELATING TO THE NORTH PORT ROAD AND DRAINAGE DISTRICT IN THE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC ROAD FAY MEN IN THE CODE OF THE CITY OF NORTH PORT, FL CHAPTER 66 SPECIAL DISTRICTS ARTICLES FOR A ROAD AND DRAINAGE DISTRICT TO ELIMINATE CONFLICTS WITH THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE UPDATING REFERENCES CLARIFY FORSMAN PROVISIONS AND CLARIFIED THE TIMING OF THE PAYMENT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC ROAD. PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS PROVIDING FOR COMPLEX PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION AND PROVIDING EFFECTIVE DATE. >> ALRIGHT CITY MANAGER THIS IS YOUR ITEM. >> CITY. 2024 23. DIDN'T KNOW ROAD AND DRAINAGE DISTRICT AND THE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC ROAD WILL BE IT CONTINUED TO SECOND READING AUGUST 6 2024. THANK >> ALL RIGHT SO WE'RE ON 2 QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS. NO QUESTIONS BUT JUST A COMMENT I LOVE THE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC ROAD YET JUST LIKE THE SOUND OF THAT UK. THEM OKAY. >> ANY PUBLIC COMMENT IS ALL RIGHT. >> OR SHUN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND LOOKING FOR A MOTION MAKE GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO CONTINUE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 8, 3, 2, 2ND READING ON AUGUST, 6 2024 2ND. ALL RIGHT WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON TO CONTINUE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 23 TO SECOND READING ON AUGUST 6. 2024 AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR STOKES. THERE'S NOTHING ELSE WE WILL DO VICE-MAYOR SPEARS YES MAYOR, THE S LANGDON DO. COMMISSIONER ELRICH. YES. ALL RIGHT SO THAT MOTION CARRIES 5 TO 0 ON TO ITEM WHICH YOU. ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 20 THE PROMOTION. SO ALL RIGHT WE HAVE A MOTION TO DIRECT THE CITY CLERK TO READ THIS BY TITLE ONLY MADE BY VICE MAYOR STOKES AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON. ♪ WE'LL DO A VOICE ♪ VOTE. AND VICE CHAIR. YES. >> HERE'S YES, YES. YES. COMMISSIONER EMRICH. YES ALL RIGHT SO THAT PASSES BY. I'M BUSY ROAD. ANY GO AHEAD. >> IT'S NUMBER 2024 DASH 24 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF NORTH PORT FLORIDA AMENDING THE CODE OF THE CITY OF NORTH PORT, FL CHAPTER, 70 STREETS SIDEWALKS AND OTHER PUBLIC PLACES CREATING A NEW ARTICLE STORE CANOPY ZONE DESIGNATION BUT FOR FINDINGS PROVIDING FOR COMPLEX PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION AND PROVIDING AN AFFECTED DATE. >> ALRIGHT CITY MANAGER THIS IS YOUR ITEM. >> THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR THAT HAS DO WHAT IS 2024 DASH 20 OR COLDER, THE FOR PORT 70 STREETS SIDEWALKS OTHER PUBLIC PLACES IF WOULD JUST SECOND READING AUGUST 6.22. >> I THANK ALL RIGHT NOW WE'RE ON 2 QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. >> LINE ONE 44 STATES THAT THE CITY WILL POST SIGNAGE DESIGNATING A CANOPY ROAN AND WILL ENSURE MAINTENANCE OF THE CANOPY ROAD CLEAR ZONE, CURIOUS WHY ARE WE PUTTING MORE SIGNS AND ALL RIGHT AWAY. >> CANOPY ROAD >> OREGON'S ASSISTANT DIRECTOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. >> PER PROVISIONS CURRENTLY EXIST IN THE UNIFIED LAND. LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER, 45. THERE WERE NO SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES MADE THEY ARE NOT LAND DEVELOPMENT SO THAT ALONG WITH CITY AT SOME POINT THE CITY COMMISSION WANTED TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DESIGNATE THESE ROADS AND THEY WANT THEM TO RECOGNIZED. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF. GOVERNMENT PLACED SIGNS AND THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT OR NOT. TRAFFIC CONTROL WE HAVE SOME GOPHER TORTOISE SCIENCE FOR EXAMPLE WE HAVE SOME DIRECTIONAL SIGNS TO CITY FACILITIES. IT'S COMPLETELY A POLICY DECISION BECAUSE THAT IS GOVERNMENT SIGNAGE PRIVATELY PLACED SIGNAGE. >> IN FAVOR OF TAKING IT OUT I MEAN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO KNOW TO CANOPY ROAD WHEN GROWN OVER 2 PEOPLE REALLY CARE TO CAN PEOPLE ROAD. I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF REMOVING IT, BUT YOU KNOW BE THE WILL OF THE COMMISSION. >> WE HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT ON THAT BEFORE I SPEAK MY PIECE. >> I THINK IT'S IT WOULD GREAT DOESN'T MENTION I I DON'T THINK THE ONE ROAD THAT WOULD EVEN QUALIFY THAT'S BEEN ONLY. >> WHEN WE HAVE AND THEY DO HAVE THESE THE COUNTY AND IT IS IT'S GREAT REALLY LIFTS UP THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD. WHEN THEY KNOW THAT THERE'S SOMETHING SPECIAL AND AS WAS BECAUSE THAT'S JUST WHAT I THOUGHT THAT PUT FINDS OUT FOR GOPHER TORTOISES EVERYTHING ELSE FOR. I'M SORRY IT'S LATE SANDHILL CRANES SO CANOPY ROAD I THINK THAT ALSO GETS A LITTLE BIT BUT NOTICE TO TRUCKS YOU KNOW THEY HAVE TO BE TRIMMED UP THAT YOU REALLY SLOW DOWN. THOSE TREES SO. >> I WOULDN'T BE IN FAVOR NOT DOING THIS AND I THINK IT'S GOING MAKE A MOTION GO AHEAD MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE LINE ONE 44. ITS ENTIRETY. >> ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL TO REMOVE 1 ONE 44. IT IN ITS ENTIRETY FROM THIS. PART THE. SAYING THAT RIGHT THAT WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER MACAU. >> SECOND MAKE A COMMENT I I THINK THAT KIND OF SCIENCE A GREAT I THINK NO DIFFERENT GOPHER TORTOISES SCRUB JAYS OR ANYTHING ELSE AND HIGHWAY IT'S SOMETHING NICE AND SOMETHING THAT SOME PEOPLE ENJOY SEEING AND I DON'T I DON'T SEE IT AS ENTRANCE OR NOT. DESTRUCTION TO ANYBODY SO I THINK IT'S GOOD THINGS. I SUPPORT. >> ALL RIGHT SO WE'LL DO A I'M SO HAPPY TO. >> YEAH GO AHEAD I DO SEE A DISTINCTLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE GOPHER TORTOISE SIGNS AND SANDHILL CRANES ENDS ITS WARNING PEOPLE OF THOSE. WILDLIFE. THIS IS JUST A NICETY THAT CONSIDER IT I THINK ROAD CLUTTER ROAD AND DRAINAGE WAS HERE. IT'S IT'S NOT WARNING MOTORISTS OF ANYTHING IT'S JUST DESIGNATING A ROADWAY. BUT MOTION MADE THANK YOU FOR THE SECOND. LET'S PUT IT TO OKAY WE'RE GOING VOTE ON NOW IT'S NICE TO YOU. >> MAYORS AND NOW PLAYING SNOW. YES, AND COMMISSIONER EMRICH. OKAY SO THAT DOES NOT ASK ONE TOO. 4. BUT I GET MY NUMBERS RIGHT THAT TIME. I'M MOVING ON TO ITEM. ♪ ♪ WE ALSO PUBLIC COMMENT. THAT. NEED A MOTION. OH THAT'S RIGHT OKAY. GOT MOTION TO REMOVE THE SIGN. THAT'S RIGHT THE WHOLE ORDINANCE HEAD YEAH. >> MOTION TO CONTINUE ORDINANCE 2024 DISH 24 SECOND READING ON 8/6/2024 2ND. >> THANK YOU VICE MAYOR WHO HAS MADE THE MOTION TO CONTINUE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 42ND READING ON AUGUST 6 THAT WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON THERE'S NOTHING ELSE VOTE ON THAT MOTION ICE BEARS. YES, YES LANGDON SAY YES, DON'T. YES. >> COMMISSIONER AVERAGE. >> YES, OKAY SO THE ORDINANCE PASSES TO SECOND 5 TO 0 ALL RIGHT. BUT YOU GUYS HAVE IMPACT NOW WILL BE TO OUR ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 28. AND A MOTION TO WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON TO DIRECT THE CITY CLERK TO READ THIS BY TITLE ONLY AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. LET'S DO A VOICE VOTE VICE MAYOR. YES MAYOR ZS THAT COMMISSIONER AVERAGE. YES ALL RIGHT SO THAT PASSES 5, 0 CITY CLERK. >> WE'RE GOING NUMBER 2024 DASH 28 ORDINANCE OF THE CITY IN NORTH PORT FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF THE CITY OF NORTH PORT, FL CHAPTER 82 WATERWAYS CREATING A NEW ARTICLE MARINE VESSEL REGULATIONS, PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS PROVIDING FOR COMPLEX PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY BIDEN FOR OUT OF PATIENT AND PROVIDING AN AFFECTED DATE. >> THANK YOU CITY MATCH YOUR THIS IS YOUR ITEM. >> CITY STAFF AND CITY COMMISSIONER TOO ONE NUMBER 21 DASH 8, WHICH EVEN COLD IN THE CITY OF CHAPTER 82 CONTINUE IN THE SECOND READING ON AUGUST 6 2024. THANK >> ALL RIGHT, THANK LOOKING FOR COMMISSION QUESTIONS ON THIS COMMISSIONER MC DOUBT, BETWEEN LINES 85 IN 93, IT TALKS ABOUT DERELICT VESSELS AND ABANDONED VESSELS. >> DON'T RECALL SEEING ANYTHING DEFINED IN ANY CODES AS TO WHAT THE DIFFERENTIATION IS BETWEEN DERELICT VESSELS AND ABANDONED AND I WAS WONDERING IF MAYBE STAFF CAN AND LIKE ME, I KNOW DERELICT DOES HAVE A REFERENCE TO FLORIDA STATE STATUTE. BUT I'M WONDERING WHAT THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN DERELICT AND ABANDONED >> ALL RIGHT LAWRENCE ASSISTANT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, YES, THERE IS A REFERENCE TO STATE STATUTE THAT THERE ARE A DERELICT VESSEL IS ABOUT THAT IS IN DIRECT JUNK. JEAN OR SUBSTANTIALLY DISMANTLED CONDITION. VERSUS ABANDONED. ABANDONED IS COVERED UNDER. >> THE. >> REGULATIONS WHICH ARE SUBSTANTIALLY AND THE AND THE SAME CONDITION AS THEY EXIST AND THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. SO ABANDONED VEHICLE. WOULD BE WON THAT HAS LEFT. ABANDONED AND A WATERWAY. FOR MORE THAN 72 CONSECUTIVE AS PER THE DISABLED VEHICLE SECTION ABOUT. BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY CHANT. OR DAMAGED CONDITION. >> WITH THAT DEFINITION OF AN ABANDONED VEHICLE, HOW IS THAT DIFFERENT THAN A DISABLED VEHICLE WHICH IS MORE FOR MORE THAN 72 CONSECUTIVE HOURS. >> ABANDONED VEHICLE >> MAY NOT. >> THE. >> DISABLED. >> IT MAY BE. >> PERFECTLY CAPABLE OF MOVING UNDER POWER. SO YOU KNOW NOT BEING THE ORIGINAL PROPER OF THIS REGULATION. I THINK THERE WAS PROBABLY PURPOSE BEHIND SEGREGATING DISABLED. THEY'RE ELECT AND A BAND. A SAILBOAT THAT'S BEEN LEFT. AND NOT DISABLED, NECESSARILY. IT CAN STILL MOVE UNDER. >> SO I'M I'M I'M NOT WHAT YOU'RE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR I'M NOT SURE OF THE CURRENT CODE. >> AND ANY. >> WAY SHAPE OR FORM THE FINES ABANDONED. CALLS. >> I'M JUST LOOKING FOR CLARITY ON BECAUSE. IF I HAVE AN ABANDONED VEHICLE AND IT'S CONSIDERED ABANDONED AFTER 72 HOURS. IT COULD STILL BE MOVED IT COULD STILL MOVE UNDER ITS OWN POWER. A DISABLED VEHICLE IS MORE FIRST MORE THAN 72 HOURS BUT CAN IT BE. >> MOVED. >> SO HOW DOES THE CITY DIFFERENTIATE IF IT CAN BE MOVED OR CANNED IF IT'S ABANDONED OR IF IT'S DISABLED AND I'M JUST LOOKING FOR CLARITY ON A COLD THAT I TRUST US HELPS IT SHOULD HELP. >> AND CHAPTER 42 ARTICLE 3 THERE IS THE DEFINITION OF ABANDONED VEHICLE. >> AFTER 42. THE ♪ ♪ A REVIEW FOR SECOND. >> TO I'D LIKE TO JUST CLARIFY TO GET THAT SOME OF THESE ORDINANCES THEY'RE NOT A WHOLESALE REVIEW AND REVISION OF OUR EXISTING CODES THEY WERE SIMPLY THESE CHANGES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE WERE SIMPLY TO BRING THEM INTO YOUR BRING THEM INTO ALIGNMENT WITH THE NEW ULDC OR SIMPLY TAKE THE EXISTING REGULATIONS AND MOVE THEM OUT OF THE ULDC WHERE THEY BELONGING CITY CODE. SO IT WASN'T NECESSARILY A WHOLESALE. REVIEW AND RICK CRAFTING OF THE EXISTING ORDINANCES. SO IF THERE IS LANGUAGE IN SOME OF THESE ORDINANCES THAT NEEDS TO BE MODERNIZED CLARIFIED BROUGHT TO. THAT WOULD BE A SEPARATE EFFORT. THIS WAS REALLY NARROW CRAFTING OR IT >> IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE AND CREATE THAT EXPLANATION, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I WAS AWARE OF ICY UNDERLINE ICU CODE NUMBER ASK THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THESE QUESTIONS BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS NEW CODE I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT'S NICE JUST GETTING IT OR WITH ABANDONED VESSELS BECAUSE CITY CODE IS DIFFERENT THAN ULDC CODE. MAYBE WE SHOULD PUT A TIME LINE IN THERE THAT SAYS THAT IT'S ABANDONED AFTER SO MUCH TIME FOR BECAUSE IT'S NOT CLEAR. WHERE IS THE ONE ABOVE IT AND DISABLED VEHICLES IS >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS TO NICK. ALL RIGHT ANY PUBLIC ALRIGHT IMPOSING THIS PORTION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I'M LOOKING PROMOTIONAL MAKE MOVED TO CONTINUE ORDINANCE 2024 IT 28 TO SECOND READINGS WE HAVE A MOTION MADE TO CONTINUE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 20 READING ON AUGUST 6TH MADE BY VICE MAYOR SOAP AND SECONDED THAT THING OUT. >> WE WILL DO OUR VOICE VOTE VICE MAYOR S NAIR THE LANGDON YES. COMMISSIONER EMRICH. AND THAT PASSES TOO SEE IT WEAR. WE HAVE TO DO DO DONE. THANK ALL OF THING RIGHT ALL RIGHT SO WE'RE SKIPPING TO THE END WHICH IS ITEM 7 PUBLIC COMMENT CITY CLERK. NONPROFIT'S. >> WE UNDERSTAND YOU ARE EXHAUSTED, BUT MEMBERS OF THE NORTH PARK WAS SUPPORT THE PORT REPUBLICAN SOME WHO WENT TO THE MOSQUITO TEST FOR MEETINGS. WHAT YOU TO KNOW I'M NOT IN THE CITIZENS EMAILS WERE READ INTO THE RECORD AS REQUESTED BY SOME LIKE FORMER MAYOR VANESSA CARE GOING TO MAKE THE MEETINGS AND SARASOTA DURING THE WORK DAY. THE TASK FORCE DIDN'T ADDRESS STAFFING LEVELS HIGH THRESHOLD THAT PREVENTS FRAME FOR OUTBREAKS AND SAID THEY REVIEWED MONDAY SHUNS WHICH WAYNE SAID LOOK THEY DID SO THEY MAYBE THAT PROVED ON JULY 17TH THE TASK FORCE REFUSED TO REVIEW ANY INTERNAL CITIZEN CONCERNS. THEY SAID IF THEY WERE HIRED AS CONSULTANTS THEY WOULD HAVE INVESTIGATED THEM. THEY WON'T TELL WAY TO RUN HIS DEPARTMENT AND SAY HE NEEDS TO DEAL WITH THEM. THEY SENT POWER POINT SLIDES THAT SAID THE DISTRICT MET OR EXCEEDED THE RECOMMENDATIONS IT WILL BE PRESENTED AT THE COUNTY COMMISSION AUGUST 27 MEETING COMMISSIONERS PLEASE GO TO THAT MEETING WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND STAFF AND ASKED THEM. FOLLOW MEMBER ON GOVERNOR'S RECOMMENDATIONS WAY TO REFUSE TO ALLOW THEM TO PARTICIPATE IN THE U.S. WHILE HE WAS OUT OF STATE, HE ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS INCLUDING A NEW. MADE A SPECIFIC PEOPLE LIKE THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE LIAISON, WHOEVER SEES MISSED MOSQUITO DISTRICTS IN THE STATE AS THE RIGHT PERSON TO REVIEW HIGH COUNTY THRESHOLD NORTH PORT COMPLAINTS AND HAMMERLY FACTORS. THIS WAS NOT INCLUDED WAIT FOR TASK FORCE CONSIDERATION. THEY DO NOT MOVE ON TO COMMISSIONER COMMENTS AND IGNORE LAKE CITY SENATOR TO MEETINGS CAN AN UPDATE FROM HIM HIS QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS WERE ADDRESSED EITHER WITH THAT CITY COMMISSIONERS INVOLVEMENT, THE COUNTY WON'T HEAR US AS THE TASK FORCE DETERMINED THE MOSQUITO MANAGEMENT HAS THE RIGHT TOOLS TO DO ITS JOB. BUT THEY TO USE THEM IN NORTH PORT AND NOT TRANSPARENT ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATION IMPLEMENTATIONS AND THAT'S THANK YOU. >> ALL ONTO COMMISSION COMMISSIONER ELRICH HAVE ANYTHING. COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. NO NOTHING OKAY. I HAVE NOTHING AT THIS TIME WE'LL BE BACK HERE SOONER COMMISSIONER I'LL TAKE A PASS TO NEXT OKAY VICE MAYOR STOKES I HAVE A LOT LIVES CHARTER OFFICERS CITY CLERK. >> CITY ATTORNEY KNOWING THE THAT THEY ALL RIGHT SO WE WILL BE BACK HERE AT 09:00AM I DURING THIS MEETING AT YES YOU WOULDN'T BUT TEAM. --------- IS WHAT I NEED TO DO AND. >> I GET IN MY TRUCK IF I NEED ANY SUPPLIES PARTS TOOLS BASED OFF OF THE WORK I WAS GIVEN THAT MORNING OUT PICK THAT UP HERE AT OUR SHOP AND THEN I HEAD OUT IN THEM. MICHAEL FOR THE DAYS GET AS MUCH WORK AS THAT WAS ASSIGNED TO DONE AS POSSIBLE. AND SOMETIMES THAT HAPPENS AND OTHER TIMES THERE'S A LOT OF FIRST RESPONSE CALLS THAT COME IN MY FAVORITE PART IS THE UNIQUENESS NOT KNOWING WHAT I'M GOING TO BE FACED WITH EVERY DAY. IT COULD BE DIFFERENT. IT'S NOT MUNDANE IN ANY WAY. >> AND IT'S EXCITING WHEN YOU GET A CALL AND YOU'RE YOU'RE ON YOUR WAY YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS AND YOU YOU HAVE THE EXPERIENCE AND THE KNOW-HOW AND THE BACKING TO FACE WHATEVER IT'S GOING TO BE SO I FEEL VERY CONFIDENT IN FACING THESE CALLS AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT DIFFERENT PART. >> HI I MALAYNIA THIS IS ANSWERS WITH ELENA AND I'M GOING TO ANSWER ALL OF YOUR FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS. ♪ TOO MANY PEOPLE HERE WHY HASN'T THE CITY STOPPED PEOPLE AND BUSINESSES FROM BUILDING IN NORTH PORT THE SHORT ANSWER IS WE CAN'T IF SOMEONE IS HAS AND THEY COMPLY WITH THE ZONING AND THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN ♪ STATE LAW MANDATES THAT WE ALLOW THEM TO BUILD. FLORIDA IS A VERY INTENSIVE PROPERTY RIGHTS STATE SO WHAT WE CAN DO IS MAKE SURE THAT THEY COMPLY WITH ORDINANCES NORTH PORT WAS ALWAYS EXPECTED TO GROW FROM ITS INCEPTION WITH ALL OF THE LOTS LAID-OUT AND SOLD OFF TO INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS. NORTH PORT WAS EXPECTED TO HAVE A POPULATION AROUND 270,000 PEOPLE WITH ULDC THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY WRITING WE PROJECT THAT THAT NUMBER WILL FALL ABOUT 250,000 PEOPLE AS LONG AS SOMEONE IS COMPLYING WITH OUR CODES THEY ARE ALLOWED TO BUILD. BUT WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT THAT BUILDING THAT THEY DO WILL BE BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY AND ITS RESIDENTS. HI I MALAYNIA THIS IS ANSWERS WITH ELENA AND I'M GOING TO ANSWER ALL OF YOUR FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS. WHY ISN'T THE CITY WORKING TO BRING IN NEW AND INTERESTING BUSINESSES WE ARE. MOST LARGER BUSINESSES ARE LOOKING FOR A CERTAIN DENSITY FOR POPULATION AND MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME. NORTH PORT IS ON THE CUSP OF HITTING BOTH OF THOSE TARGETS. ♪ MANY COMPANIES WANT TO SEE A MEDIAN INCOME OF $75,000 PER HOUSEHOLD NORTH PORT JUST HIT 78,000 ADDITIONALLY MANY COMPANIES WANT TO ENSURE THERE IS AT LEAST A 100,000 PEOPLE WITHIN A SPECIFIC RADIUS ♪ OF WHERE THEY'RE LOOKING TO LOCATE. NORTH PORT. IT'S JUST UNDER 100,000 AT APPROXIMATELY 93,000 AS OF 2024. SO WE ARE VERY CLOSE TO THAT ADDITIONALLY NORTH PORT HAS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIVISION THAT IS RECRUITING AND TALKING WITH BUSINESSES EVERY SINGLE DAY FOR SMALL BUSINESSES NORTH PORT LOVES ITS MOM AND POPS WE HAVE A LOT OF RESTAURANTS THAT START OUT AS FOOD TRUCKS AND MANY INTERESTING STORES THAT STARTED IN SOMEONE'S GARAGE OR ON THEIR DINING ROOM TABLE WE ARE VERY BUSINESS FRIENDLY. AND WE SMART BUSINESSES GROW I THINK IT AGAIN. >> ALL MEETING TO ORDER TODAY IS TUESDAY JULY 23RD 2024 AND IT IS 10:00AM WE'RE IN THE CITY CHAMBERS AND A CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING ORDER. THIS IS A HYBRID MEETING THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN. THIS MEETING HAS PROPERLY NOTICED AND WILL BE CONDUCTED AS A HYBRID MEETING REQUIRING THE USE OF COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA TECHNOLOGY CM KATE, A PHYSICAL FORM VOTING MEMBERS IS PRESENT AND CITY COMMISSION CHAMBERS, A HYBRID MEETING ALLOWS VOTING MEMBERS TO ATTEND AND PARTICIPATE WITHOUT PHYSICALLY BEING PRESENT IN THE ROOM WHERE STORM IS ROLL CALL MYSELF MAYOR WHITE VICE MAYOR MISSION ALIGNED IN. COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL, WE HAVE CITY ATTORNEYS SLAYTON CITY MANAGER FLETCHER IN THE BACK WE A POLICE CHIEF GARRISON AND POLICE CHIEF. TIDE WHY REALLY APPRECIATE ALWAYS RACING LIKED SEEING FACT YES IT IS WE WILL NOW HEAR FROM. COMMISSIONER EMRICH WITH HIS VIRTUAL ATTENDANCE STATEMENT. COME ON >> AS AUTHORIZED BY CITY COMMISSION POLICY NUMBER 2021 I AM ATTENDING THE HYBRID MEETING VIA COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA TECHNOLOGY. EXPERIENCING A MEDICAL CONDITION INCLUDING MANY DISABILITIES, PREVENTING ME FROM ATTENDING THIS MEETING IN PERSON AT THIS TIME, THANK >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER, I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE USE OF CMT FOR MEETING. >> THAT >> AND WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE USE OF CMT FOR THIS HYBRID MEETING MADE BY VICE MAYOR STOKES SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE WE WILL DO A VOICE VOTE VICE MAYOR MAYORS, YES HERE IS THE S LANGDON IS THAT YES MCDOWELL NOTE. WE SURE AVERAGE. YES ALL RIGHT SO THAT PASSES 4 TO 0. ALSO. 41 FROM ALWAYS SAY THAT BY COMMISSIONER ALLEN YOU'RE THE ONE WHO'S GOING TO CATCH ME WHEN DO THAT ALL THE TIME WHY DOES. >> I'M GIVING YOU MORE IT. PRESENT CARRY CITY CLERK FAST. AND ABOARD SPECIALIST PARTNER SITTING UP HERE SO BOTH OF YOU, I'M GOING TO DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE MONDAY. >> THERE. >> AND >> STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE TO ALL. >> THANK YOU, ♪ BEFORE WE MOVE TO BELOVED AND I JUST WANT DO A FEW HOUSEKEEPING. >> THINGS UP SOME THINGS THAT ARE REALLY IMPORTANT SUCH AS >> HAHA. >> KIND OF KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING TOWARDS AND ONE WE SHOULD BREAK OR MAYBE FINISH SOMETHING SO MAY BE SHOOTING FROM A THAT SOUND ABOUT BUT TYPE OF THAT AND 45 MINUTES, IT'S REQUESTED THAT WE HAVE 45 MINUTE LUNCH. FOR ARE WE DO HAVE A ROAD AND DRAINAGE MEETING. AND ANTICIPATING MAY STILL BE WE WON'T HAVE TO STOP THIS MEETING HAVE THAT MEETING. >> AND THEN. >> RESUME WITH THIS MEETING SO. >> WHAT ARE YOU THINKING IN TERMS OF HEART STOPPED, I'M THINKING AND MAY WE HAD THAT 2 O'CLOCK. >> IN THE MORNING ENDING MEETING I THINK IT AND THEN WE GO TILL 8 THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A SOME TIME A DINNER BREAK SO WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS. >> BUT WE JUST PLAYED BY YOUR MAYORS KIND OF HARD TO TELL WITH ALL REALLY BIG TICKET ITEM ON AGENDA, SURE MIND I THINK WE'RE GOING JUST HAVE TO PLAY BY YOUR CASE, LET ME PUT IT OUT THERE THAT WE WILL CONSIDER THAT THAT WE'RE NOT GOING GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH UNTIL FINISHED WITH IT STUFF IT COMES TO THAT POINT WE SHOULD MAKE SOME DECISION ADAM AIR. YES, IT'S ALSO ACCEPTABLE THAT WE MIGHT DECIDE DEPENDING WHAT'S LEFT ON THE AGENDA TO SIMPLY RESCHEDULE THOSE 2 RIGHT THERE OK I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO BE COGNIZANT OF THAT THAT THIS MAY GO REALLY JUST PUSH BECAUSE IT'S NOT GIVING RESPECT THOSE THOSE ITEMS. >> AND WE DO OUR COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM PARENTS SHOULD SAY I'D LIKE FOR US >> TO HAVE 5 MINUTE ROUNDS OF QUESTIONS OF COMMISSIONERS. AND FOR PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE. WE DO HAVE COMMENT CARDS I THINK ARE THEY ♪ THEY ARE. AND I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE LOBBY AS WELL YOU GO OUTSIDE YOU HAVE TO COME BACK FOR THAT THE METAL IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON A SPECIFIC ITEM ON THE AGENDA BE SURE YOU ULIS THAT ON ME THE COMIC PART BECAUSE WE'VE HAD TIMES WHEN PEOPLE CALLED OUT AND THEY SAID I PUT IN A COMMENT CARDS BECAUSE HE DIDN'T LIST THAT SPECIFIC ITEM SO DO THAT OR GENERAL COMMENTS THE BEGINNING YOU MAY SPEAK ABOUT EVERYTHING. ALL OF OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS TODAY WILL BE 3 MINUTES. PLEASE SILENCE YOUR PHONES, LET'S CHECK THAT NOW. TO OF COMES DOWN IF YOU LIKE SOMETHING OR DON'T LIKE SOMETHING AGAIN THIS IS REALLY MAINLY FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR CLOSED CAPTION THAT IT TAKES UP EVERYTHING AND EVEN WHEN I WAS WATCHING A VIDEO OF SOME OF OUR MEETINGS THERE WAS TALKING OVER AND IT WAS REALLY DIFFICULT TO TO HEAR. WHAT WAS BEING SAID BECAUSE YOU HEARD DIFFERENT STATED SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND FROM UP HERE AS WELL AS THAT'S PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW WHY IT'S SUPPPOSED OUT IT'S MERELY FOR THAT. OK AT THAT EYE MISSED ANYTHING AND MY LITTLE LIST HERE AND I THINK WE'RE WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT FOR NOW ALL RIGHT SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA MOVED SECOND. I MENTIONED COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS IT'S BEEN PRESENTED AND THAT HAS BEEN SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON IF THERE'S NOTHING WILL DO A VOTE VICE THERE LANKANS YES, THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER ELRICH. IDEA WHICH IS. AND NO NOW WE DO. WHICH THANK YOU OKAY, SO THAT TOO. ♪ ♪ RIGHT NOW WE'RE MOVING TO ITEM 2 WHICH IS PUBLIC COMMENT CITY CLERK. >> RAN BACK YOU. THINK WAS DEVELOPED AND SOLD AS A COMMUNITY OF SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES CENTERED AROUND MANY ACTIVITIES PROVIDED WITHIN THE CIVIC CLUBHOUSE COURSE TENNIS CENTER AND FULL FITNESS CENTER. THE DEVELOPER HAS HIGHLIGHTED THESE FEATURES AND ALL THE MARKETING USED TO SELL THE HOMES BUILT NEAR A CREEK. BOUGHT OUR HOME IN THIS COMMUNITY SPECIFICALLY FOR THE LIGHTS ELEMENT AMENITIES PROVIDED UNDER THE CITY'S CURRENT MASTER PLAN D RIP LAMB. THOSE ACTIVITY AREAS ARE PROTECTED FROM DEVELOPMENT AS THEY SHOULD THE DEVELOPER DESIRES TO FURTHER DEVELOP CURRENTLY PROTECTED LAND. THAT SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED. THIS BOARD OBLIGATION AND DUTY IS TO PROTECT THE RESIDENTS OF PORT AND APPROXIMATELY 2000 RESIDENTS OF COMMUNITY THEIR LIFESTYLE AND INVESTMENT BY ONE TO LEAVING COAST CHANGES TO ACTIVITY CENTER INCLUDING THE PROVISION FROM LIMITED DENSITIES RESTRICT CHANGES TO THOSE PORTIONS OF ACTIVITY CENTER 2. TO KEEP THE PLANNED COMMUNITY DISTRICT DISTRICT FOR ACTIVITY CENTER TO ALLOW IT FOR LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AS HERE FERGUSON TODAY RATE CHANGE THE PROPOSED DESCRIPTIONS OF THE ACTIVITY CENTER 2 AND A LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL FUTURE LAND USE MAP LAND DESIGNATIONS INHERENT BREAK. AND ED GOLF COURSE AND INTENDED USES CLARIFY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO STATE THAT IT MUST BE AMENDED IN THE FUTURE IF THE GOLF COURSE, AND CLUB PROPERTY IS TO BE DEVELOPED. I WANT X CREATION OF BIG DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT DRI THAT OR SHUN OF THE DRI DESIGNATED FOR HAIR COUNTRY GOLF COURSE FACILITIES, JOE RETAIN THE SAME USE AND 6 MEN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO EXPOSE SLEEPER HIT RESIDENTIAL OR OTHER DEVELOPMENT OF THE HERON CREEK GOLF COURSE, BUT IN 2027. PLEASE DO NOT ALLOW HAIR PICK TO BECOME THE NEXT CAT TRAIL. SIMPLY ARE THERE DEVELOPERS POCKETS AT THE EXPENSE OF THE RESIDENTS. YOU STARTED. PERSON WE HAVE DAVID ALL CAN PRESENT AND VALUABLE AND THERE. >> GET ME OUT OF THE WAY REAL QUICK. I'VE LIVED HERE FOR 19 YEARS AND I REALLY DEBATED COMING HERE TODAY BECAUSE HONESTLY THE CITY HAS BECOME SO ON REPRESENTATIVE OF THE PEOPLE THAT IT'S NOT SEEING IT MAKES ME SICK. >> YOU KNOW YOU HAD TIME AND TIME AGAIN PEOPLE COMING OUT TELLING COMMISSIONERS WE DON'T WANT DEVELOPMENT WARM MINERAL SPRINGS YOU DON'T WANT TO HOTEL ON KONDO'S WE DON'T AND YOU GUYS JUST DID WHAT YOU WANT ACT ON BEHALF OF PRIVATE. BUSINESS INTERESTS WHICH IS BASICALLY WHAT GOVERNMENT SEEMS TO BE GOING EVERYWHERE AND IT'S WRONG. IT'S UN-AMERICAN IT'S NOT REPRESENTATIVE IT'S NOT THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO WORK. THE SYSTEM IS BROKEN AND ONE OF THE WAYS IT PUNISH YOU GUYS DO A GREAT JOB DISENFRANCHISING PEOPLE AND YOU HAVE YOUR PR CAMPAIGNS AND YOU RUN THIS LIKE SOME TYPE OF COMPANY OF THE MARKETING DEPARTMENT. IT'S ALL NONSENSE AND LONG PROPAGANDA. AND DOESN'T REPRESENT HARD WORKING PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN CITY. THE REFERENDUM IS BEING PROPOSED. BASICALLY CHANGING THE CHARTER. NO ONE WOULD HAVE BEEN AGAINST YOU GUYS SAYING WELL WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO BORROW MONEY WHEN THERE'S A DECLARED EMERGENCY BECAUSE THERE'S MATCHING FUNDS THAT WOULD MISS OUT LEAVE IT AT THAT. >> EVERYBODY WOULD HAVE SAID THAT'S COMMON SENSE. TO BASICALLY SEVERE. THE VOTERS TO BE ABLE TO BORROW WHATEVER YOU WANT. WITH THE DEBT MANAGEMENT POLICY. IS UNDEMOCRATIC. IT GOES AROUND THE PEOPLE IT EXCLUDES THE PEOPLE YET AGAIN AT FROM THE PROCESS OF THEIR GOVERNMENT THEIR CITY. I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO REMIND YOU THAT EVERY LITTLE THING THAT'S IN THIS ROOM WAS PAID FOR BY THE TAXPAYERS MONEY. THIS HAPPEN FOR YOU TO PLAY GAMES UP THERE WITH THIS IS THE PEOPLE WHO LIVED THERE THEIR TAXES FROM THIS. YOU COULD JUST AFTER THAT WE NEED TO BE ABLE BORROW MONEY WHEN THERE'S AN EMERGENCY BUT INSTEAD KNOW THAT SEVERE. THE CITY CHARTER WHY BECAUSE IT'S EASIER FOR US TO JUST GO AROUND THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT WE DON'T HAVE TO LISTEN TO THEM NOT TO PUT UP TO A VOTE. IT'S WRONG. IT'S COMPLETELY WRONG AND EVERYBODY NEEDS TO REMEMBER THIS AND EVERYBODY NEEDS TO VOTE IT'S UP TO THE PEOPLE IN THE CITY TO TAKE THE GOVERNMENT BACK FROM THE GOVERNMENT ITSELF BECAUSE IT'S NOT REPRESENTING THE PEOPLE. YEARS LAND CHANGES ARE INCREDIBLY POOR YOU'RE TAKING SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS WHICH USED TO HAVE SMATTERING NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL INTENSITY WHICH IS ACCEPTABLE A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD WANT THAT ON THE END OF STREET. BUT HEY YOU COULD HAVE SOME. NOW ALL I WOULD TAKE HUNDREDS 100'S OF PROBLEMS RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS MAKE THEM COMMERCIAL WE INCREASED NOISE POLLUTION CRIME AND IT REDUCE QUALITY OF LIFE THAT WAS GOING TO BE A LEGACY IF YOU APPROVED THESE CHANGES TO THE CITY REDUCING THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE CITY, SO YOU CAN SELL TO DEVELOPERS. >> I WAS A PERSON DOWN. THANK YOU. ROBIN. >> GOOD I'M THE FIRST ITEM WOULD BE. >> THE CONTINUING SAGA WITH SARASOTA COUNTY MOSQUITO MANAGEMENT. I'VE PROVIDED YOU WILL WITHHOLD THAT HAVE SOME VERY INTERESTING AND MAYBE POSSIBLE LEGAL ISSUES TO ADDRESS AND ALSO THE MOSQUITO MANAGEMENT TASK FORCE. THEIR CONCERNS AS WELL. SO WHEN YOU GET AN OPPORTUNITY IF YOU COULD JUST PLEASE REALLY NEED IT. AND CONSIDER WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE POINT WHERE AGAIN WE'VE BEEN AT THIS POINT WE HAVE TO DO THAT TAKE THAT. GOING INTO WHAT WITH ANOTHER. ALL UNITS UP HOW THE COUNTY REDICULOUS WHAT'S GOING ON. THE OTHER ISSUE THAT I'VE BEEN ASKED BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION IS WARM MINERAL SPRINGS. AGAIN I HAVE COME BEFORE YOU GUYS I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES SENT EMAILS. OUTLINING THE CONTINUED PROBLEMS. THAT ARE CONTINUING GOING ALL SPEND IT'S OUT OF CONTROL THE KIDS STILL TAKEN BOUGHT THE STILL BRING IN THE BUCKETS TO STILL CATCHING THE FISH. IT'S STILL PLAN ON THE THERE'S STILL NO CHILDREN'S SECTION MIKE WE USED TO HAVE WHEN I IT AND EVEN WHEN THERE WAS A DESIGNATED CHILDREN'S AREA FOR 10 AND UNDER THESE CHILDREN OFF LOW OVER THE SPRINGS AND GOING INTO THE DEEP WATER AND IT'S JUST AN ACCIDENT WAITING TO HAPPEN. IT'S NO ADULT SUPERVISION THAT LINE AND SUNBATHE AND THEN THE KIDS, JUST WANTING RANT THAT. I MEAN IT'S OUT OF CONTROL SO I DON'T WANT TO KEEP COMING UP HERE THINKING THAT I'M WASTING MY BREATH. BECAUSE SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE. LET'S GO TO NOTICE LIKE THEY SAID WELL IT'S NOT A LIFE SAFETY ISSUE. IT'S IT IS EVERYTHING IN HIS SAFETY ISSUE AND YOU'RE NOT JUST SUBJECT TO DOING LIFE SAFETY RULES ON CONTROL OF THE SPRING ITSELF TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SPRING HEALTHY AND IT'S NOT CONTINUALLY DEGRADED WITH THE WITH THEM JUST TAKEN MONEY OUT OF THE BUCKETS AND TAKE IN THE FISH EVERYTHING IS IS A BALANCE THAT. SO PLEASE WE HAVE TO FINALLY PUT THIS TO REST. I MEAN YOU LOOK AT SOCIAL MEDIA DO. IT'S STILL GOING ON THE SAME EXACT ISSUES STILL GOING SO WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE FOR THIS TO FINALLY BE ADDRESSED. WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE. THAT'S MY MAJOR CONCERN THIS MOSQUITO MANAGEMENT AND WARM MINERAL SPRINGS, AND THEN I'LL BE SEEING A LOT LATER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ROBIN. MISTER OLANDER. >> YOU >> GOOD I'M BOBBY ON THAT AT ALL AND THAT K'S VIEW CASE. I I THOUGHT IT A CASE A YEAR ANOTHER CORPORATION. I PEACE AND I GREEN ABOUT STEPPING ME LIKE ONE. WHY THAT DO YOU REMOVE THAT TOOL THAT OFF MY BACK. YOU INSANE THING GOING. YOU ARE SO BRING YOU'VE ME THEY THINK THE THINK TEA. YOU HAVE GOT NO CONSENT TO DO IT YOU HAVE DOING. I'M YOUR BEST SEEING 20 TO 23. IMPORTANT AGE 40 WITHOUT FORENSICS. ALTHOUGH STATE THAT TO FACT THAT MAN IS BETTING CAMERA. I WASN'T BUT A THAT WAS AND PROVIDE THAT FOR PROJECT ONLY CITY WEBSITE AND COULD NOT FIND COAST ANYWAY. I WAS SHE GOT AMERICAN EXCHANGE THE DAYS THAT I DO THAT I WILL BE I TO BE BOBBIES ABOUT ONE THAT I SAID ALSO THAT DOWN THE BACK I'M GONNA LOVE IS ABOUT $0.80. DOESN'T THEN DO YOU HAVE DIFFERENT BOXES THAT IS NO NEED FOR AN ROBOT ARM. THAT SHOULD BE NOW IN 2020 AL. BECAUSE OF PAGE 19 BOTH WHAT WE SAY IT SHOWED THE CITY MET POSITION IS FROM PREVIOUS WRIGHT SAID THE NEW AND MIDDLE THAT IS THAT A NEW ELECTION SPENDING. FACE GOING WANT TO GO THE CITY GOVERNMENT FUNDS. POURED THAT COMBINED 171 MILLION THAT OF 16 MILLION YEAR. WHAT ARE YOU LIVING SEGMENT AMEND IT. PEOPLE FOR A MOMENT YOU SEEING MINUTES EVERY THESE 2, BUT 3. LIKE MANAGER AT IT TRY TO BECOME A THING HE WAS LIKE THEY SHOULD WHO CONTROL THE MONEY ASKING PEOPLE OR MOTION WAS. ♪ SEE YOU NEXT ♪ SHE LETS ACTUAL BALLOT WITH THE DETAILS. THAT WAS NOT WARM. WE'VE ME ABOUT VISION OF ISLAM WAS IS ENOUGH. MANAGED COMMIT ON >> SEEING SAID SHE 76. >> COME HIM AND IT WORTH. BY THAT ROBERT L. >> LOOK BACK AND KATHLEEN, I'M NOT. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR MISTER VICE MAYOR COMMISSIONERS. I'M AND LOVE THAT. I'M THE ATTORNEY FOR FREE COMMUNITY, A CERTAIN AGE. ABOUT THE TOOTH OUT OF YOUR RESIDENTS AND MANY AND I'M HERE TODAY WILL BE HERE LATER PUBLIC HEARINGS TO SIMPLY ASK YOU. YEAH ERIN CREEK A CHANCE. THE PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED THAT WHEN THE DEVELOPED A IMPACT THEIR COMMUNITY EXPIRES THE DEVELOPER WOULD BE ABLE TO DEVELOP THE GOLF COURSE FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OR OTHERWISE. STAFF DENIES THAT BUT THEY GET THE POINT THAT ANYTHING IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TODAY THAT WOULD DO WHAT THEY SAY. I'VE BEEN A LAND USE ATTORNEY AS WELL AS AN H.O.A. ATTORNEY FOR MANY DECADES. AND I HAVE BIKE YOU ATTEMPTED TO SPEAK TO IT CUT OFF BECAUSE OF THE INADEQUATE THAT THE ONE THING THAT PROTECTS THEM TODAY IS THE PROVISION IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT ALLOWS AND ACTUALLY DIRECTS THIS AREA APPARENTLY TO BE A PLANNED COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. IF THAT WOULD BE REPEALED BY THIS. AT THE BEHEST OF STAFF WHO SHOW TIME AND TIME AGAIN. THE DEVELOPER AS OPPOSED TO THE PEOPLE OF PERRY CREEK. AND LET ME SUGGEST TO YOU THAT YOU ARE VIOLATING. SEVERAL STATUTES, INCLUDING ONE 63 3 A 1, THAT REQUIRES CONSIDERATION. RESPONSE TO PUBLIC COMMENTS AND MEANINGFUL PUBLIC PARTICIPATION AND I THOUGHT WE HAD TO PLAN AND AS WELL AS THE STATURE REQUIRE REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD FAMILY. AND I 28TH. STAFF PUT ON YOUR AGENDA. WAIT ON YOUR AGENDA, SO IT DIDN'T COME OUT UNTIL AFTER MIDNIGHT. TRANSMITTAL HEARING. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM HERE IN CREEK HAD TO LEAVE. YOU ARE TIRED. YOU WEREN'T UP FOR ANY CONSIDERATION OF THE POINTS ARE ATTEMPTING TO BAKE. CERTAINLY NOT TO GIVE CREEK ATTORNEY MORE THAN A VERY 3 MINUTES. GOING TO THE MANY POINTS OF THE ISSUE OF THE DOCKET. AND YOU WROTE IT. WE THOUGHT BECAUSE WE ASKED YOU TO FOR A CONTINUANCE. OF TRANS MILL. IT WILL LATER AND STATED THAT I LISTENED TO THE TAPE THAT MAYOR AND THAT'S WHAT YOU. BUT A PRO. AND THAT VIOLATES STATE LAW SITE IF YOU WANT TO E-MAIL MANY OF READ THEM. THAT'S EXPLICITLY REQUIRES A VOTE A MAJORITY VOTE OF THE COMMISSIONERS PRESENT. THE VOTE FAVOR OF TRANSMITTAL. AND YOU DID NOT. INSTEAD WE THOUGHT WE HAD TO COMPLETELY ONCE WE WERE ASKING FOR. SO WE DID A DOUBLE DOUBT THAT WE HAVE ANOTHER CHANCE FOR THE TRANSMITTAL HEARING HOPEFULLY MEANINGFUL PUBLIC PARTICIPATION IS REQUIRED BY STATUTE. WHEN YOUR STAFF PULLED THE STATE FASTLY THAT YOU VOTED FOR TRANSMITTAL. WE ASKED FOR A CONTINUANCE. >> OF THOSE TODAY SHOW CAN DO WITH THE STATE REQUIRES AND GOOD PUBLIC POLICY MANDATES. AND GIVEN OPPORTUNITY TO TRULY CONSIDER THE PEOPLE OF COLOR. I DO THANK YOU. AND THEN THIS CAPTAIN KHAN >> WE WILL MOVE INTO HERON CREEK 14 YEARS AGO WE LIKED THE SMALL CITY FEEL OF PORT. I WENT TO A COMMISSIONERS MEETING IN THE FALL AND ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS READING ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE ARE THE SECOND FASTEST GROWING CITY. THE UNITED STATES. I WASN'T THRILLED WITH THAT. THEN ANOTHER COMMISSIONER. POINTED OUT THAT. THE APPRAISAL ON OUR HOUSES HAD INCREASED DRAMATICALLY. I DON'T FEEL TOO MUCH BENEFIT FROM THAT BECAUSE I INTEND TO STAY IN PORT UNTIL I CAN'T ANYMORE. CHILDREN MIGHT BENEFIT FROM THAT WHEN THEY SELL OUR HOUSE BUT WE DON'T. I FELT THAT HIGHER PRAISE UL ONE PARTICULAR. RESPONSIBILITY AND THAT WAS TO PAY HIGHER TAXES. NOW. I FIND HEADLINE IN THE LOCAL SINCE NORTH PORT HAS A 7 FASTEST RISING PROPERTY PRICES IN THE NATION. I DON'T CONSIDER THAT A GREAT BENEFIT. I KNOW I'VE BEEN SEVERAL OF THE MEETINGS WHERE YOU TALKED ABOUT THE RATIO BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL. AND THAT HAVING MORE COMMERCIAL. MORE BUSINESSES WOULD HELP US TO KEEP THE TAXES UNDER CONTROL. BUT WHAT I SEE IS JUST CONTINUED DEVELOPMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL HIGH DENSITY. AND I JUST WONDER AT WHAT POINT ARE WE GOING TO STOP FILLING EVERY. EVERY LITTLE SPACE IN OUR CITY WITH MORE RESIDENTIAL LIKE THE NEW NEW COMMUNITY AROUND TOLEDO BLADE. I THINK WE REALLY HAVE TO LOOK AT THOSE TAXES BECAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE. THIS WAS GOING TO BE GREAT BENEFIT TO BE ABLE TO LIVE HERE WITH SLIGHTLY LOWER TAXES. I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I WAS CONCERNED WHO DID RIGHT COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL AND I NEVER SENT A LETTER BACK IN THE FALL AND I SHOULD HAVE AND I JUST THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE TO KEEP AN EYE ON BECAUSE DEVELOPMENT JUST SEEMS TO BE HELPING OUT THE BIG BUSINESS PEOPLE AND NOT THE REGULAR RESIDENTIAL. ALL RIGHT MOVING ON TO ITEM 3 ANNOUNCEMENTS CITY CLERK. THE CURRENT VACANCIES FOR THE FOLLOWING BOARDS AND COMMITTEES INCLUDE OUR ADVISORY BOARD SIT ON IT OR SELECTION COMMITTEE CHARTER REVIEW ADVISORY BOARD CITIZENS TAX OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. >> ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY BOARD HISTORIC AND CULTURAL ADVISORY BOARD POLICE OFFICERS PENSION TRUST ON BOARD OF TRUSTEES ARTS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD PLANNING AND ZONING ADVISORY BOARD THAT AND SPARKED BY COMMITTEE AND ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS SARASOTA COUNTY ADVISORY COUNCIL VACANCIES INCLUDE ONE RESIDENT, RESIDENT OF NORTH PORT TO SERVE ON THE CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMITTEE. ONE RESIDENT OF NORTH 47 THE CITIZENS OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE FOR SCHOOL FACILITY PLANNING AND ONE RESIDENT OF NORTH PORT TO SERVE ON THE PARK'S ADVISORY AND RECREATION COUNCIL IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE MORE INFORMATION PLEASE SEE THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM FOR CITY MANAGER HAVE ANY ITEMS BEEN PULLED FOR DISCUSSION. >> WHERE YOU EAT 1, 5, I DON'T H. WHICH DASHED WHEN GROW. ITEM 24 YOU MAKE MOTION THERE GO AHEAD. >> MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED PULLING ITEM FOR DEAN. 4 H AND FOR EYE FOR DISCUSSION. SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL THE CONSENT AGENDA, HAULING ITEMS D ISN'T DAVID H AND I DISCUSSION THAT WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER. >> NOTHING A LACE. >> VICE MAYOR THERE'S YES MAYOR ZS COMMISSIONER LANGDON MCDOWELL'S COMMISSIONER AVERAGE URGES THE THAT PASSES ITEMS AND CITY MANAGER. HOLD WHAT. >> FIRST ITEM FOR BEING IT IS YOU WANT I BUT COMMISSIONER WITHOUT OK WITHOUT TAKEAWAY I YES, THE REASON THIS ITEM IS BECAUSE I HAD A COUPLE UNFORTUNATELY I HAVE NOT RECEIVED A RESPONSE MY BIGGEST QUESTION HAD TO DO WITH THE FINANCIAL IMPACT. STATE AND THAT THERE'S 4 MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE CHANGED FOR THIS CITY'S CONTRIBUTION FOR THIS GRANT. AND MY QUESTION WAS WHERE DID THAT MONEY COME FROM. >> RECORD BELLERIVE NOGALES KEEPING ITS DIVISION MANAGER WE DISCOVERED THAT THERE IS A SCRIVENER'S ERROR IN THE FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT THE DESCRIPTION THAT WITH. UP HIGH GRANT ITS OK CAN'T CALL THEY BE UP GET THE CORRECT PERMITS SHOULD BE THE >> MICHAEL FOR PUBLIC WORKS. FALLS INTO THAT. I LIKE TO READ IN THE CORRECT FOR THAT. I WAS FIRST. AS READ THE WHOLE THING HOW IT SHOULD THAT'S OKAY. >> THE TOTAL PROJECT COST IS ESTIMATED AT 14 MILLION 314 THOUSAND DOLLARS. BUT THE DESIGN THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE BRIDGE. THIS PROJECT OUR CIP ARE 25 MCB. THE WORD FROM THE GRANT. IT'S 10 MILLION 314 THOUSAND DOLLARS. MATCHING FUNDING 4 MILLION DOLLARS WILL BE PROVIDED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS ROAD AND DRAINAGE DISTRICT. COUNT NUMBER US FUND IS 1, 0, 7, DASH 5, 0, 0, 0, 5, 4, 1, GOT 6, 3, 0, 0, AND THE APPROPRIATE BUDGET IN PLACE FOR THESE EXPENSES. I PART ARE CALLED USUAL. >> I THINK ARE ON THAT AND THEN FALL, GO AHEAD. THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION, 4. COULD YOU JUST REAL QUICK WHAT IS THAT ACCOUNT NUMBERS AND I DON'T HAVE MY BEACH TO YOUR THE BUDGET TALKS WITH DOES THAT ACCOUNT NUMBER 1, 0, 7, 5, 0, 0, 0, 4, 1, >> THE 6300 COUNT THEIR CAPITAL ACCOUNT. >> SO MONEY IS COMING FROM CAPITAL EXPENDITURES. START IS ITS RANGE RANGE, 27. AND SO WE USE THE WORD AND DRAINAGE FUNDS TO PAY FOR THE 4 MILLION IT HAS THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND PAY SCREENERS HAVE BEEN NO BIG DEAL I APPRECIATE YOU OWN EXPLAINING WHERE HOW THEY SAID BEING VIOLENCE. THANK YOU FOR MAYOR I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL MOVING ON ITEM MOTION TO ACCEPT WANT DO THAT. >> MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THE APPLICATION FOR RESILIENT SRQ COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT. DISASTER RECOVERY PROGRAM IN THE AMOUNT OF 10 MILLION 314 1000 DOLLARS THE RECONSTRUCTION OF THE MYAKKA HACHI BRIDGE OVER THEM. BASEBALL. SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL TO ITEM 24 DASH 0, 8, 1, 5, AMENDMENT OF THE APPLICATION TO THE RESILIENT SRQ COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT DISASTER RECOVERY PROGRAM IN THE AMOUNT OF TIME 1 MILLION 314 THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR ♪ THE RECONSTRUCTION. OF THE MYAKKA HACHI CREEK BRIDGE OVER PRICE BOULEVARD AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR IF THERE'S NOTHING TO DO A I MAY REPLACE MAYORS, YES, THERE'S YES, ♪ YES. >> TELL US THIS AVERAGE. YES ALL RIGHT SO THAT PASSES 5 TO 0. I SORRY. NEXT ITEM IS ITEM H. I GUESS I CAN ANNOUNCE THIS MYSELF CITY MANAGER BECAUSE I PULL THIS IF YOU THAT. ALL RIGHT I PULL ITEM AGE. >> BECAUSE AS AN UNPAID BOARD MEMBER OF THE NONPROFIT GROUP PEOPLE FOR TREES I WILL BE ABSTAINING FROM THIS FOE. CONSENT ITEM H 24 DASH 0, 9, 3, 0, REGARDING THE GRANT FROM THE SPECIAL EVENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. REGARDS TO THE 13TH ANNUAL TOUR DE NORTH PORT BICYCLE RIDE THAT WILL OVER 20 >> MOTION NO QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FROM THE SPECIALIST EVENT YOU NEED TO PASS DO. I MAKE A MOTION IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU VICE-MAYOR IT IS MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE SPECIAL ASSISTANCE FUNDS FOR THE PEOPLE FOR TREES IN SUPPORT OF THE TOUR PORT TO BE HELD ON OCTOBER 20TH 2024 AND THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $500. SECOND. >> WE HAVE A THERE'S NOTHING ELSE TO HAVE A LOW WITH THE MAYOR ABSTAINING. MISTER BELL. >> MCDOWELL, YES. STILL LINE THEM AS A YES. >> THE STORM >> I MEAN YES. >> VICE MAYOR SO YES, HERO. YES, ALL RIGHT. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR. MOVING ON TO ITEM I CITY MANAGER WHO PULLED THIS COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL WAY. >> SO I SENT AN EMAIL ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT PROJECT THE PROJECT IN QUESTION IS THE HILLSBOROUGH CRANBERRY. INTERSECTION DESIGN IMPROVEMENTS. STAFF DID ANSWER ALL MY QUESTIONS, HOWEVER, THIS IS A VERY LARGE PROJECT THAT IS OF GREAT INTEREST TO THE CITIZEN. SO I'M ASKING STAFF TO PLEASE PROVIDE. THE CITIZENS UPDATE ON THIS PROJECT. >> IT'S BIG PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR. CRIMINALS BUREAU BOULEVARD ROUNDABOUT IS CURRENTLY A 100% DESIGN PLANS HIS PLANS WERE RECEIVED IN APRIL OF 2024 WERE SUBMITTED TO THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT TRANSPORTATION TO OBTAIN RIGHT AWAY PERMIT TO ALLOW THE WORK TO COMMENCE. THIS PERMIT IS TO WORK IS BEING COMPLETED WITHIN THE U.S. 41 RIGHT OF WAY. I RESPONDED WITH A REQUIREMENT THAT THE LIGHTING EVALUATED. ADDITIONAL LIGHTING BE PROVIDED TO MAINTAIN STATES LIMITS CRITERIA ON US 41. REGARDING THE PROJECT SCHEDULE ON THE APPROVAL OF AMENDMENT TO THE DESIGN CONSULTANT HAS STATED ARE LIGHTING DESIGN PROCESS WITH THE ESTIMATE TO TAKE ONE MONTH FROM THOSE PERCEIVED. F DOT RECENTLY GOAL. PLEASE NOTE THAT THE FDOT PERMITTING MAY IMPACT TIMELINE. AND WE'RE ASSUMING ONE ROUND OF COMMENTS BASED ON THIS RESPONSE IF THAT REVIEW AND COMMENTS WILL DICTATE THE REST OF THE DESIGN SCHEDULE, HOWEVER THOUGHT EXCEPT THE CHANGES WITHOUT ANY MAJOR ADDITIONAL COMMENTS. IT WAS EXPECTED THAT THE CITY WILL HAVE. ALL CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS SUCH AS PLANS PERMITS AND SPECIFICATIONS WITHIN MONTHS. SO THAT PUTS A SEPTEMBER OCTOBER OF 24. CONTRACT TIME WITH KIMLEY-HORN IS REQUESTED TO BE EXTENDED THROUGH DECEMBER 2024 TO ALLOW SYSTEMS THROUGHOUT THE BIDDING PROCESS IN CASE ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCREPANCIES RISE NEED RESPONSE CITY CHARLOTTE COUNTY ARE SIMULTANEOUSLY WORKING TO ACQUIRE THE LAND AND EASEMENTS REQUIRED FOR CONSTRUCTION PROJECT REQUIRES POSITION OF PORTIONS OF 2 PARCELS TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENTS FROM 4 PARCELS AND A PERMANENT EASEMENT FROM ONE PARCEL. AT THIS TIME THE PERMANENT EASEMENT AND ONE TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT HAVE BEEN ACQUIRED REST OF THE ACQUISITIONS HUGE. >> I APPRECIATE THAT ATTRACTED A LOT QUESTIONS ON IT AND NO CENTERED THIS VERY CLOSELY, ESPECIALLY WITH ALL DEVELOPMENT IN THAT GENERAL AREA. SO I DO APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO EXPLAIN TO EVERYBODY FINAL ACTION. THERE'S NO OTHER MAKE MOTION NOT JUST JUST A COMMENT WE DID GET THAT IN THE MAIL CORRECT PRINTED THAT OUT. >> WRECKED YET AND I DID THAT SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT TOO. SO I HAVE THAT SOME PEOPLE LIKE THIS THAT HAVE BEEN ASKING HER TO THANKS FOR DOING THAT. >> WHILE WE RECEIVED MEMO THEY WERE GOING TO REMEMBER EVERYTHING SPEAKS IF YOU CAN PRINT IT OUT OF PARK MAKE A MOTION MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE AGREEMENT NUMBER 2, 0, 2, ONE DASH FOR ONE FOR PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR THE CRANBERRY HILLSBOROUGH DOUBLE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS. WITH KENLEY LINING IN THE AMOUNT OF $20,615 SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT WE DO HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL FOR ITEM I 24 DASH 0, 9, 3, 1, TO APPROVE THE SECOND AMENDMENT TO AGREEMENT NUMBER 2021 41 PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR CRANBERRY BOULEVARD. HILLSBORO BOULEVARD INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS DESIGN PERMITTING FOR LIGHTING DESIGN MODIFICATIONS TO SCOPE AND PRICE WITH HIM MORNE AND ASSOCIATES. >> AND THE AMOUNT OF $20,615 THAT WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON IS NOTHING REALLY BOAT. >> VICE MAYOR THERE'S THE S MISSION ALIGNED ANY MCDOWELL, COMMISSIONER EVERAGE. >> YES ALL RIGHT THAT PASSES 5 TO >> SO. ♪ THINK WE ACTUALLY WENT TO A DOUBLE AND ON FRONT OF GENDER AND THROUGH THE ENTIRE ALPHABET IN THE LAST ONE ♪ A OKAY. ITEM. >> PUBLIC HEARING SET IN. ORDINANCES FIRST READING. 2, 0, 2, 4, DASH 2, 5, THIS IS A QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING. AND I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A MOTION TO DIRECT THE CITY CLERK TO READ THIS BY TITLE ONLY WE DO HAVE A MOTION MADE BY VICE MAYOR STEPS AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON FOR THE CITY CLERK TO READ THIS BY TITLE ONLY. SO WE'LL GET A VOICE. >> VICE MAYOR VICE MAYOR ZS LINED SAY YES WS MISSION OR AVERAGE. >> YES ALL RIGHT SO THAT PASSES 5, 0, CITY CLERK TAKE IT AWAY. >> WE'RE NUMBER 2024 DASH 25 AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF NORTH PORT FLORIDA REZONING APPROXIMATELY 27.7 8, 1, 6 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED SOUTH OF SOUTH TAMIAMI TRAIL US 41 PARKWAY SECTION 3233 TOWNSHIP 39 SOUTH RANGE, 20 LEAST OF SARASOTA COUNTY FURTHER DESCRIBED IN INSTRUMENT NUMBER AND OFFICIAL RECORDS OF SARASOTA COUNTY FROM NO ZONING DESIGNATION DISTRICT NZD CLASSIFICATION TO VILLAGE B OCCASION AMENDING THE OFFICIAL ZONING FOR FINDINGS PROVIDING THE FILE OF CREW FILING OF APPROVED DOCUMENTS PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY BIDEN FOR COMPLEX PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. EVERYONE WISHING TO PROVIDE TESTIMONY STAND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO PROVIDE US TO AN ACCURATE TO THE BEST YOUR KNOWLEDGE SO HELP YOU THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. >> AND NOW WE'RE MOVING ON TO DISCLOSURE OF EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS VICE MAYOR. >> YES, A BAD NUMBER OF MEETINGS BACK AND HOSPITAL AS WELL DISTRICT REGARDING SPECIFICALLY TO UNDERSTAND TOO. DESIGNATION FORD'S PREVIOUSLY UNDESIGNATED PARCEL AND IT'S GOING TO WHERE HOSPITALS BILL. >> ALL RIGHT YES, MEETINGS I THINK BOTH FRIEND. REGARDING THE HOSPITAL. PLANS TO COME TO THIS PARCEL OF LAND. >> MADAM MAYOR, I ALSO HAD A MEETING WITH HOSPITAL REPRESENTATIVES AND THE 2 BONES REGARDING THIS REZONING. >> ON MAYOR I HAD A MEETING IN BOONE AND SARASOTA A MEMORIAL REPRESENTATIVES ON MAY 13. ON JULY 16TH, I ALSO HAD ANOTHER MEETING WITH BOARD MEMBER AND SARASOTA MEMORIAL REPRESENTATIVES. AND WE DISCUSS REASONS. >> ALL RIGHT COMMISSIONER AVERAGE AND THE TO DISCLOSE. >> I HAVE THE SAME MEETING WAS BUILDING AND BUILDING AND THE HOSPITAL ASSOCIATES REGARDING THIS PROPOSAL. >> ALL RIGHT MOVING ON CITY AGGRIEVED PARTIES OR NOT. MAY PRESENTATION BY THE APPLICANT. 20 MINUTES. >> GOOD MORNING FOR THE RECORD MY NAME IS JACKSON ATTORNEY WITH THE LAW FIRM AGENT FOR THE APPLICANT AND PROPERTY OWNER SIR CITY COUNTY PUBLIC HOSPITAL DISTRICT ALSO KNOWN AS AZZAM AGE. ♪ ♪ WE HAVE FOR YOU RIGHT NOW THE REZONING I'M JOINED HERE AS WELL BY TOM HERE AGO CHAIR ROUSH NEARLY GOT RICHMOND, H STEVE JACKSON AND STACY WHITE WITH FLAT ARCHITECTS. CHRIS WILL AVOID STANTEC MATT GILBERT WITH FARM BAR IN JEOPARDY WITH BEING ESSENTIALLY THE PROJECT FOR THE SITE. OUR REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS A VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD IF I COULD HAVE THE OVERHEAD FROM A POWER POINT PLEASE. WE AS A THE CITY CLERK MENTIONED IN THE TITLE ORDINANCE WE HAVE ESSENTIALLY 40 ACRE PARCEL. IT LOOK AT IT WITHIN WON'T PARK IT'S LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF US 41 IMMEDIATELY EAST OF WEST VILLAGES PARKWAY JUST NORTH OF THE STATE COLLEGE OF FLORIDA CAMPUS. ESSENTIALLY IT'S SOUTHEAST QUADRANT OF WHAT IS THE WEST VILLAGES PARKWAY AND US 41 INTERSECTION THE PROPERTY HAS A FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF VILLAGE IS HAD THAT FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF VILLAGE SINCE 2004. HOWEVER IT HAS HAD ZONING DESIGNATION OF NO ZONING DESIGNATION. SMH WHO ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY IN 2015 IS NOW READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OBTAINING ENTITLEMENTS ON THE PROPERTY TO ALLOW FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT TO TAKE PLACE HOWEVER DUE TO THE NZD ZONING DESIGNATION ON THE PROPERTY. THE FIRST STEP IN THIS PROCESS IS TO PLACE A CITY ZONING DISTRICT ON THE PARCEL. THE VILLAGE ZONING DESIGNATION WE'RE REQUESTING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE VILLAGE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AS WELL AS THE SURROUNDING WELLEN PARK AREA WHICH HAS BEEN PLANNED UNDER THE FIELD REGULATORY SCHEME. STAFF HAS REVIEWED THIS REZONING FOR CONSISTENCY WITH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE ULDC AND HAS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. HERE IS THE THIS IS A CITY ZONING AS CITY OF NORTH PORT ZONING MAP. CAN SEE MY CURSOR WE ARE HATCHED PARCEL RIGHT THERE, HATCH IS IS PUT ON THE ZONING MAP FOR THE NEW ZONING DESIGNATION SO I'M SAYING WE'RE THE HOLE IN THE DOUGHNUT WOULD BE INCORRECT OR EVEN SMALLER THAN THE WHOLE OF THE DOUGHNUT BUT AS YOU CAN SEE THE VILLAGE ZONING THE PROPERTY INTO SYSTEM OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE HAVE THE REQUEST TO REZONE TO VILLAGE. WE ARE CONSISTENT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WE'RE COMPLYING WITH THE ULDC INCLUDING THE SECTION ONE 12 CRITERIA. AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL. THANK YOU. >> OK THANK YOU MOVING ON THE PRESENTATION BY STAFF. YOU HAVE 20 MINUTES YOU. JUST SEEING THE SHARING. AND TO SEE 2 COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU. >> GOOD MORNING FOR THE RECORD MY NAME IS SHERRY WILL ACT ON DONE AND I HAVE BEEN POINT. I AM PLAN OR 3 THE PLANNING AND ZONING DIVISION OF THE CITY OF PORT. THE PETITION BEFORE YOU IS THE SARASOTA MEMORIAL HOSPITAL. SMH OUT WILLING PARK REZONE PETITION NUMBER IS 24 DASH 0, 7, 9, UNDER THE ACCOMPANYING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 25. AND AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN IN PURPLE IS THE LOCATION AND AND THE AREA OF THE REZONE PROPERTY. APPLICANT IS JACKSON FOOD ESQUIRE AND THE PROPERTY OWNER IS THE SARASOTA COUNTY PUBLIC HOSPITAL DISTRICT. AND THEN STATED THE CONSIDERATION TO REZONE 27.7 8, 1, 6, ACRES. NO ZONING DESIGNATION SUFFOCATION TO VILLAGE THE CLASSIFICATION AS STATED PREVIOUSLY THE LOCATION IS SOUTH JOINING US 41 TAMIAMI TRAIL AND TO THE EAST ENJOYING SOUTH WEST VILLAGES PARKWAY. LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND HISTORY. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WAS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY OCTOBER 30TH 2000 UNDER ORDINANCE 2000 DASH AS PART OF THE TAYLOR RANCH ANNEXATION POPPY HAS TO PLAN AMENDMENTS EPA 0, 2, 83 AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE TO VILLAGE WAS ADOPTED BY THE CITY COMMISSION ON MARCH 22ND. 2004 I ORDINANCE 0, 3, 2, 8, THIS REZONE PETITION. WELL, A SIGN A CITY OF NORTH PORT ZONING DISTRICT DESIGNATION TO COMPLY WITH THE CITY OF NORTH PORT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE MAP. REZONE ORDINANCES ADOPTED WILL PREPARE THE NEXT STEPS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE. AND THE CURRENT LAND CHILEAN USES VILLAGE IT'S NO ZONING IT'S CURRENTLY VACANT PROPERTY. THIS PROPERTY HAS DESIGNATED AS THE FUTURE SITE WITH THE SARASOTA MEMORIAL HOSPITAL. IN ADDITION PURSUANT TO SECTION 53 DASH I E OF THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE THE APPLICANT DID HOLD A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING ON JUNE 27TH, 2024 IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. A PRE-APPLICATION MEETING FOR THIS PROJECT WAS HELD ON APRIL 3RD OF THIS YEAR. IT WAS THE REZONE PETITION WAS PROCESS FOR MANAGEMENT REVIEW WHICH COMPRISES OF OUR ST. OUR MEMBERS AS WELL THERE HAVE BEEN NO ISSUES RAISED. IN ADDITION THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAS REVIEWED AND APPROVED COMPANY ORDINANCE 2024, 25 AS TO FORM INCORRECTNESS. AS STATED IN THE STAFF REPORT WITH THE STAFF FINDING AN ANALYSIS STAFF HAS REVIEW THIS PROPOSED APPLICATION WITH COMPLIANCE TO FLORIDA STATUTES. THE CITY OF NORTH PORT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. AND WE HAVE FOUND THAT IT IS IN COMPLIANCE. THE FLORIDA STATUTES 1, 6, 6, 0, 4, ONE DOES OUTLINE THE PROCEDURES AND ADOPTIONS FOR ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS AND THE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS PURSUANT TO THE STATUTE HAVE BEEN MET AND ARE DETAILED IN SECTION. 6 OF THE STAFF REPORT. COMPLIANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. GO ONE OBJECTIVE ONE FOR THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT. IT DOES COMPLY WITH THAT THE SARASOTA MEMORIAL HOSPITAL, ALTHOUGH IT IS EXEMPT STATUS IT ECONOMIC BENEFIT TO THE CITY HAS A HUGE POTENTIAL THIS WILL BE A LARGE-SCALE HEALTH CARE FACILITY THAT WILL SERVE THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF PORT. I WILL GO INTO MORE DETAIL WITH THAT WITH MY SECOND PRESENTATION. IT DOES NEED TO THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT OBJECTIVE 3 POLICY 3.4. IN REFERENCE TO JOB CREATION AS OUTLINED IN THE STAFF REPORT I PROVIDED A SNAPSHOT IN TIME FOR THE POTENTIAL EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE. IT NEEDS THE TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT POLICY 4.4. AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GOAL. I OBJECT TO 5.1 TO ACHIEVE ECONOMICALLY STABLE COMMUNITY WITH THE SUPERIOR QUALITY OF LIFE ENHANCING ECONOMIC AND EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES. I PROVIDED THIS IS A SNAPSHOT IN TIME OF THE TYPE OF POTENTIAL POSITIONS OR JOBS THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE. IN OUR AREA, THIS THE SARASOTA. READING NORTH PORT RATING 10 IN SARASOTA AREA AS YOU CAN SEE THAT DOES HAVE A POTENTIAL FOR A LOT OF MEDICAL TECHNICAL POSITIONS. COMPLIANCE WITH THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER, ONE GENERAL PROVISIONS ARTICLE FOR REZONING SECTION ONE 33 HAS ITEMS A TO SHOW COMPLIANCE THAT ANALYSIS IS IN THE STAFF REPORT STAFF HAS ANALYZED PROVIDING COMMENTS TO EACH ITEM APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED THOSE ARE COMMENTS IN RESPONSE. AND STAFF HAS FOUND THAT IT DOES MEET THE SECTION OF THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. UNDER AMENDMENT BEACH THAT AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING ADVISORY BOARD HAS THE PLANNING AND ZONING ADVISORY BOARD HAD MET ON JULY 11TH 2024 I DID GET A CONFIRMING EMAIL THAT THE AGENDA ITEM IN THE EAST THE REPORT HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO COMMISSION. THE PLANNING BOARD VOTED 5, 0 UNANIMOUS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVAL OF PETITION. NOTICE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS WERE MAILED TO THE OWNERS ON JUNE 25TH 2024. AND IT WAS ALSO ADVERTISE IN A NEWSPAPER GENERAL CIRCULATION ON JUNE 25TH 2024 WILL BE ADVERTISEMENTS TO MEET THE TIME FOR ORDINANCE IT FOR THE FIRST AND SECOND READING IN COMPLIANCE WITH FLORIDA STATUTES. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 20 2425 TO ZONE. THE 27.7 8, 6, ACRES FROM NO ZONING. SUFFOCATION TO VILLAGE THE PETITION NUMBER ARE EASY 24 DASH 0 SOMETHING. THANK YOU. OKAY. >> SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO. >> REBUTTAL APPLICANT. 5 MINUTES. >> ALL RIGHT THOSE SHORT >> FOR THE JACKSON TEENAGER FOR THE APPLICANT REBUTTAL. THANK YOU. >> REBUTTAL BY THE BY STAFF. GOOD MORNING STAFF HAS NO REBUTTAL, THANK YOU THANK YOU. PUBLIC COMMENT. THERE IS COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS WILL TO 5 MINUTE ROUNDS AROUND THAT'S NECESSARY. >> YEAH, I'M JUST CURIOUS I'M LOOKING MAP THAT WAS PROVIDED IN THE BACTERIAL. BEING TO THE THERE'S A LITTLE CAR ABOUT IN THE NORTHWEST. THAT IS NOT BY THEM. BUT PROPERTY MAP SERVE A IS NOT SHOWING THAT COME ABOUT CURIOUS. >> THIS NOW FOR THE RECORD HAVE AGAIN TALKING AND SHERRY'S PRESENTATION. THE MAP. >> I'M SORRY THEY CAN ALL BLURRED A MAP THAT SHOWS THE INTERSECTION OF 41 >> IT IT SAYS. >> IT'S FROM A SPECIFIC PURPOSE SURVEY FROM BRITS ARE VAIN. IT'S EXHIBIT PART OF EXHIBIT PAGE 1420. LOOK AT THE PROPERTY APPRAISER SITE THERE'S A SECTION. >> IT'S LIKE A LITTLE I BELIEVE THAT IS A LIFT STATION THAT'S NOT PART OF THE WANT TO PULL THAT UP. >> QUESTION HAS TO BE IT. I'M SORRY QUESTION IS THAT LITTLE LAKE AREA THAT IS NOT OWNED BY THEM. MAP IS SHOWING THAT IT IS WITHIN YOUR OWNERSHIP WHEN SO SOMETHINGS NOT CORRECT. >> BUT >> IT'S GOT HAVE THE STAFF REPORT THIS. YEAH IT'S GONE. >> PROPERTY APPRAISERS WEBSITE SHOWS THAT MANASOTA BEACH RICHLANDS WHAT'S THAT LITTLE >> YEAH THAT SURVEY YOU'RE REFERRING TO OF THAT CAR. IT'S REALLY AND THE COLOR IN THE LINES ARE BLACK. >> CHRIS PINE EVERYTHING ELSE IS CRYSTAL CLEAR WITH THE BOUNDARIES ACCEPT THAT PART ABOUT DON'T LIKE AREA. I JUST WANTED CONFIRMATION. ♪ ♪ >> AND TRYING TO GET. >> THEN IT TO ZOOM EVEN WITH THE MEANT TO THE DOCUMENT WE. ZOOMED YOU COULD SEE IT CLEAR. BUT THAT IS NOT PART OF THE REZONE AREA. AND ON THE SURVEY THAT IT IS NOT INCLUDED IS CARVED OUT. >> PROBLEM THERE'S NO NOR I SEE NOW CARVED OUT IF YOU TURN IT UPSIDE DOWN. BUT DON'T ON IT. >> YOU'VE GOT IT DIDN'T COME UP WITH THE ARROW SIGNED YESTERDAY IN TAISHAN OKAY UNDERSTOOD WITHDRAW MY QUESTION. THANK YOU, WELCOME. OKAY, I DON'T ANYBODY ELSE. IN 2. ALL RIGHT SO A MOVE TO CLOSING ARGUMENTS GREAT PARTIES SO CLOSING ARGUMENT BY STAFF. STEPS GETTING THE APPROVAL OF THE ORDINANCE 2024 25 THE REASON SHOULDN'T >> ALL RIGHT. AS ARGUMENT BY THE APPLICANT. >> REAL CLOSING ARGUMENT JUST RESPECTFULLY REQUEST, YOUR APPROVAL OF THE REZONING AND YOU. >> POSING THIS PORTION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION MAKE IT GO AHEAD BY SHOTS THANK SIR. THE CONTINUING NUMBER 2, 0, 4, DASH 2, 5 2ND READING ON AUGUST 6 2000. >> SECOND ALL RIGHT WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY VICE MAYOR TO CONTINUE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 25 TO SECOND READING AUGUST 6 2024. AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON. THERE'S NOTHING ELSE WE WILL DO A VOICE. >> VICE THERE'S YES, THEY ARE TOO. YES. COMMISSIONER LANGDON SAY YES MCDOWELL, YES. >> HERE'S YOUR UM YES ALL RIGHT, *** IS 5 TO 0. THANK MOVING TO ITEM ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 26 THIS AGAIN IS A QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING AND I NEED A MOTION TO HAVE TO FIGHT I MOVES. ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON TO HAVE THE CITY THIS BY TITLE ONLY THAT WAS SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR. THERE'S NOTHING ELSE VICE MAYOR VICE MAYOR'S THERE'S A COMMISSIONER LANGDON SAY YES THEY DO, COMMISSIONER AVERAGE. YES ALL RIGHT. CITY ♪ >> ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 20 SET ORDINANCE OF THE CITY IN NORTH PORT FLORIDA AMENDING THE VILLAGE VILLAGE DISTRICT PATTERN PLAN WEST VILLAGES AK WELLEN PARK THEN IN THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO REFERENCE THEM ENDED VILLAGE DISTRICT PATTERN PLAN VYING FOR FINDINGS PROVIDING FOR ADOPTION PROVIDING FOR COMPLEX PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE ♪ DATE CAN EVERYONE WISHING TO PROVIDE TESTIMONY PLEASE STAND AND RAISE RIGHT HAND. SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO PROVIDE IS TRUE AND ACCURATE TO THE BEST OF YOUR KNOWLEDGE SO HAPPY ABOUT. THANK ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. >> NOW I WILL CALL FOR DISCLOSURE OF EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS ON THIS ITEM VICE MAYOR AND FORWARDS I HAD NUMEROUS WELL, UNEMPLOYMENT AND HOSPITAL SAME WITH THE I SINCE WARNING THIS MATTER. SO >> ALL RIGHT AND I 2 ON JULY 16TH THAT WAS JUST HAD MEETING WITH GOING TO THE MOON THIS PROPERTY AND ITS. THE PP AND. BUT WE'RE GOING TO IT DISCUSSING THAT. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, YES, A MEETING AND THAT WITH THE BONES AND REPRESENTATIVES OF SARASOTA MEMORIAL HOSPITAL. >> DISCUSSING REQUIREMENTS AND POTENTIAL CHANGES. >> COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL S MY IS I HAD A MEETING ON MAY 13TH AND AGAIN JULY 16TH WITH BURNHAM BONE AND REPRESENTATIVES FROM AS A MAJOR AND WE DISCUSS THIS PROJECT ON JULY 18TH I HAD AN AGENDA BRIEFING WITH ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, YARBOROUGH THE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT FROM CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. MY QUESTION SENATOR AROUND WV ID INVOLVEMENT ON THIS AMENDED. AMENDMENT TO OF PEOPLE. >> ALL RIGHT COMMISSIONER AVERAGE. >> YES I HAD A MEETING WITH BONE AND HOSPITAL TEAM REGARDING BEING DISCUSSED TONIGHT. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU CITY CLERK, ANY AGGRIEVED PARTIES. >> SO >> WILL MOVE TO PRESENTATIONS BY THE APPLICANT YOU HAVE 20 MINUTES. >> GOOD FOR THE RECORD JACKSON TURNED A LAW FIRM AND ITS AGING FOR THE APPLICANT PROPERTY UNDERSERVED CITY COUNTY PUBLIC HOSPITAL DISTRICT. SAME PROJECT TEAM WE HAD EARLIER I DO BELIEVE I FAILED RECOGNIZE MISS CARRYING A BIG WITH THE MONARCH ECOLOGY. SHE'S HERE AS SO WE HAVE THE FULL PROJECT TEAM. THIS REQUEST IS A IT'S THE SECOND PART OF WHAT WE HAVE WITH ITS DAY. THIS IS A AMENDMENT TO THE WELL IN PART ILITCH MILEAGE DISTRICT PATTERN PLAN RATHER WAS AN SAPD PP. >> CONCERNED SAME PROPERTY PROPERTY WE JUST DISCUSSED IN THE REASONING HERE. WITH GDP WAS APPROVED RECOGNIZE THE SMH PROPERTY IS BEING WITHIN THE INDEX MAP BOUNDARIES, NOT WITHIN THE VILLAGE EV DPP AND AND AT THE TIME GETS MAJOR PROPERTY WAS TO BE DEVELOPED NEED TO BE PROBABLY IN THE BELOVED TV DPP BOUNDARIES, A PROPOSED FOLLOWING THIS INVASION PROCESS AND SEEKS TO ADD YES MAJOR PROPERTY. ASSOCIATED DEVELOPMENT ENTITLEMENTS OUGHT TO PROVIDE FOR PHASE DEVELOPMENT OF THE MEDICAL CAMPUS. IT'S IMPORTANT UNDERSTAND ESTIMATES IS CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF MASTER PLANNING ITS PROPERTIES IN SOUTH SARASOTA COUNTY IN ORDER TO EFFECTIVELY COMPLETE THIS PROCESS MUST FIRST OBTAIN TITLED IT'S ON THE PROPERTY TO CREATE THE PARAMETERS WITHIN WHICH THEY KNOW THEY CAN DESIGN BOTH FROM A SLIGHTLY OUT PERSPECTIVE AND ALSO FROM A MEDICAL SERVICE DEMANDS STANDPOINT. BECAUSE CREASE TO ME IN FOR CERTAIN SERVICES AND THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL BUILDING SPACE COULD HAPPEN SO QUICKLY WHICH THEY HAVE EXPERIENCE AT THEIR CAMPUS. A LITTLE ROAD AND I 75 IN VENICE. SMH IS ASKING FOR THE MAXIMUM FLEXIBILITY TO PROVIDE TO INCREASE SPEED TO MARKET ON SITE ALLOWING THEM TO GO FROM INTERNAL PLANNING TO MASTER SITE IT'S LITTLE STAGE WHICH RESULTS CONSTRUCTION OF FACILITIES AND INCREASE MANY SERVICES IT IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS PHASE DEVELOPMENT APPROACH FOR THE PROPERTY, NOT ONLY LOOKS AT TODAY TO 10 YEARS IN THE FUTURE. BUT ALSO LOOKS AT 50 PLUS YEARS DOWN THE ROAD FOR FULL BUILD OUT CURTAIN. THE MAIN REQUEST THAT AMENDMENT ARE. WANT THE PROPERTY WITHIN THE VILLAGE EBD PPE IN REVISING ALL THE APPLICABLE MAPS TO REFLECT THIS CHANGE. YOU CAN SEE HERE AGE PROPERTY IS SHOWN IN A BLUE SHADE AND THEY ARE AT THE WHAT WOULD BE THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE TOP LEFT CORNER OF THE MAP. THERE ARE A SERIES OF MAPS EXHIBITS LIKE THIS AND DPP NOW WE INDIGNANT JUST REFLECT THAT THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN BROUGHT INTO THE VILLAGE EV DPP DOWNTURNS. SECOND PART WHICH IS ONE OF LARGER PARTS HEAT AMENDMENT. IT'S ADDING THE PUBLIC INSTITUTION USES CIVICS IN CIVIC USES AS A USE CATEGORY IN THE PPP COMPANY AGE PROPERTY. THIS IS BEST DEMONSTRATED THROUGH THIS ADDITIONAL COLUMN HERE SHOWING ON LIGHT SIDE OF THE 3, DEVELOP STANDARDS TABLE. IN HERE LOOK AT CALM AT THIS COLUMN. YOU SEE THE STANDARDS ARE DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE YEARS OF AGE TO ON THE SITE ALL THE WAY TO A POTENTIAL FULL BUILD OUT OF THE CAMPUS WHICH IS WHY THERE'S 150 FEET WHY THERE'S AN FAA FOR THE POP. HE STUNNED. 150 WAITS IN FLORIDA HOSPITAL BUILDING. 3.8 YARDS, A FIGURE THAT ACCOMMODATES POTENTIAL AREN'T EVEN IF THE 3 IF THEY ARE WAS ACHIEVED ON OUR SITE. THE MAXIMUM ONE IF THEY ARE STANDARD FOR THE ENTIRE VILLAGE EV DPP AREA WOULD NOT COME CLOSE TO BEING EXCEEDED SO THERE'S NO WORRY ABOUT THE 3 O OUR SITE AND IN FACT FOR MIXED USE WHICH IS CALL IT AGENDA COLOR ALL THE WAY TO LAUGH THAT ALREADY HAS A IS THE MAXIMUM AND THEY ARE STANDARD SO WE'RE SIMPLY JUST CARRYING THAT OVER TO THE RIGHT IN THE TABLE. WE HAVE REQUESTED A MINIMUM OPEN SPACE STANDARD OF 0 ACRES, NOT BECAUSE WE ENVISION NO OPEN SPACE BEING PROVIDED IN FACT WE KNOW THERE WILL BE OPEN SPACE ON THE PROPERTY EVEN AT A POTENTIAL FULL BUILD OUT. HOWEVER THIS FIGURE IS REQUESTED FOR PURPOSES OF MAINTAINING MAXIMUM FLEXIBILITY FOR MASTER PLANNING SITE. WE ARE REQUESTING TO KEEP THIS 0 ACRES TO AVOID ANY POTENTIAL UNFORESEEN ISSUES IN THE FUTURE. ARE CONCERNED WITH PROVIDING AN ARBITRARY NUMBER AT THIS TIME FOR THE OPEN SPACE ACREAGE THE MINIMUM OPEN SPACE ACREAGE IS NOT RUNNING INTO AN ISSUE WITH THE FIRST NUMBER OF FACES ON DEVELOPMENT ON THE SITE. IT'S REALLY LOOKING AT THE 20 TO 30 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. IF WE ARE TRULY CHOOSE THE NUMBER NOW OUR ONLY OPTION FOR RELIEF IS TO AMEND THE BPP AGAIN THROUGH THIS PROCESS COME BACK IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION AT THAT TIME WHICH WILL ONLY CAUSE THE WAY FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS, THE FACILITIES, THE SERVICES THAT HAVE BEEN TARGETED AS NEEDED ON THE SITE. REQUESTS THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE AND SETBACK STANDARDS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THOSE ALREADY APPROVED FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL USES WITHIN THE P P AND WE HAVE SIMPLY CHOSEN TO CARRY THOSE OVER. WE HAVE ALSO ADDED INFORMATION TO OUR SITE TO THE OTHER POLITICAL AREAS SUCH AS TRANSPORTATION ENVIRONMENTAL CONSIDERATIONS, WATER WASTEWATER UTILITIES, WET LANDS ROADWAYS FREESTANDING SIGNAGE LOCATIONS AND ADDING THE DEFINITION OF THE PUBLIC INSTITUTIONAL USES AND CIVIC SPACES WHICH HAS BEEN TAKEN DIRECTLY FROM THE PATTERN BOOK APPROVED FOR WELLEN PARK AND THAT'S WHAT THIS THIS IS AT THE TAIL END OF THE V P P AND THE DEFINITION SECTION. THIS IS THIS EXISTS IN PATTERN BOOK THAT W V P B WELL IN PART WE SIMPLY HAVE TAKEN THIS AND CARRIED INTO THE PPP FOR ABILITY. CONCERNING THE TRANSPORTATION IN ASSOCIATED TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDIES. WE HAVE PROVIDED AN IMPACT STATEMENT FOR STAFF TO REVIEW THE CONTEMPLATE A FIRST PHASE OF DEVELOPMENT ON THE SITE AT THE TIME OF THE BELLE OF SITE DEVELOPMENT PLANTS, MIDDLE AS REQUIRED BY STAFF A TRANSPORTATION IMPACT ANALYSIS WILL BE PROVIDED INCLUDING AN OPERATIONAL ANALYSIS OF THE SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT EACH FACE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSED SITE. THE LAST MAJOR COMPONENT OF OUR AMENDMENT PROPOSAL. THIS REQUEST RELEASED FROM THE SPECIFIC LANDSCAPING PARKING SIGNAGE ARCHITECTURE AND OTHER DESIGN STANDARDS AS PROVIDED BY THE DPP AND FOR THOSE THAT DEFAULT TO THE ULDC AS WELL AS REMOVING THE WEST VILLAGE'S REVIEW COMMITTEE FINAL APPROVAL AUTHORITY OVER A PROPOSED SITE PLANS IN ASSOCIATED ARCHITECTURE SIGNAGE LANDSCAPING AND APPLICABLE DESIGN COMPONENTS LOCATED IN SECTIONS 3, 8, SECTIONS 3, 9, STAFF HAS NO CONCERN WITH OUR REQUESTS FOR RELIEF FROM THE STANDARDS AS THEY UNDERSTAND THE REQUEST AND FLEXIBILITY DESIRE ACCOMMODATE THE UNIQUE NATURE OF A PHASED MEDICAL CAMPUS FACILITY ALLOWING SMH TO IMPLEMENT ITS UNIQUE ARCHITECTURAL THEME AND DESIGNED SITE AS IT DEEMS BEST, HOWEVER. THEY DO NOT PROVIDE RECOMMENDATION ON A REQUEST MOVE OUR PROPERTY FROM THE WEST VILLAGE'S REVIEW COMMITTEE AUTHORITY APPROVAL WHERE ONE MUST RECEIVE THEIR APPROVAL ON SITE PLANS BEFORE THEY CAN BE SUBMITTED TO THE CITY. AND SOME 8 WANTS TO BE CLEAR. WE SAID THIS IN THE PIECE THAT MEETING WAS CHANGED AGAIN WE WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT WE BELIEVE WELL IN PART HAS DONE AND IS DOING AN UNBELIEVABLE JOB AND MASTER PLANNING THE AREA. YOU'RE RATED ONE OF THE PREMIER COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COUNTRY THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT. SMH UNDERSTANDS AND RESPECTS THE PURPOSE BEHIND RETAINING THE REVIEW COMMITTEE APPROVAL, 40 OVER THOSE ITEMS TO MAKE SURE THAT WELL IN PARK MAINTAINS ITS FIRST CLASS FEEL NOW INTO AND INTO THE FUTURE. SMH HOWEVER IN TURN WOULD LIKE THE SAME DECISION MAKING AUTHORITY OVER ITS SITE WHICH WILL LIKEWISE BE DEVELOPED IN A FIRST-CLASS MANNER WHICH CAN BE SEEN AT THE VARIOUS ESTIMATES MEDICAL FACILITIES IN COUNTRY. THIS A SLIDE HERE SHOWS BOTH ON THE LEFT SIDE ARE THE RENDERINGS AND THEN ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION, AND YOU CAN SEE WHEN SMH COMES UP WITH THE RENDERING THEY THEY ARE HITTING THE MARK SAY 99% IF NOT BETTER ALMOST ON SO THERE'S AN UNDERSTANDABLE SCENE ESTIMATES JUST WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE THE FINAL APPROVAL AUTHORITY OF THEIR SITE PLANS AND THOSE ASSOCIATED IMPROVEMENTS. AND SOME EACH HAS BEEN DISCUSSING THIS WITH WELL IN PART AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO SO WITH A GOAL OF HAVING AGREED UPON APPROACH BY THE TIME THE SECOND READING OF THIS BP HE AMENDED ORDINANCE ULTIMATELY AT THE END OF THE DAY AS THE NATION LOOKS FORWARD TO BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND PARTNER WITHIN THE WELL ON OUR COMMUNITY IN THE CITY A LARGE. STAFF IS REVIEWING OUR BTP AMENDMENT FOR CONSISTENCY WITH COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE ULDC HAS NOT RAISED ANY ISSUES. IT HAS PROVIDED A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL WITH 4 LISTED CONDITIONS. WE DO NOT OBJECT TO THESE LISTS LISTED CONDITIONS ASIDE FROM THE MINIMUM OPEN-SPACE ACREAGE FROM THE SITE WHICH WE REQUEST TO KEEP IT 0 AGAIN WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE SITE WILL HAVE OPEN SPACE. EVEN AT AFTER PHASES OF DEVELOPMENT ALL THE WAY FOR A FULL WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU YOU MAY HAVE. >> GOOD MORNING AGAIN COMMISSIONERS FOR THE RECORD SHERRY WILLETTE-GRONDIN PLANNER 3 PLANNING ZONING DIVISION AND I HAVE BEEN SWORN. AGAIN THE PETITION BEFORE YOU IS THE P A 24 DASH 0, 7, 9, UNDER ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 26. THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE VILLAGE E VILLAGE DISTRICT PATTERN PLAN. >> WHICH IS ALSO CALLED THE P P. >> AGAIN AN OVERVIEW THE APPLICANT IS JACKSON BOONE. JOHNSON R BEEN ESQUIRE PROPERTY OWNERS SARASOTA COUNTY MEMORIAL. SKEWS ME SARASOTA COUNTY PUBLIC HOSPITAL DISTRICT. THIS IS AMENDING THE VILLAGE G VILLAGE DISTRICT PATTERN PLAN WEST VILLAGES ALSO KNOWN AS WELL IN PARK AND AMENDING THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REFERENCE THE AMENDED VILLAGE. DISTRICT PATTERN PLAN AS STATED PREVIOUSLY THE LOCATION OF SOUTH NEW JOINING SOUTH TAMIAMI TRAIL US 41 EAST DEVON JOINING SOUTH WEST VILLAGES PARK. AGAIN THE BACKGROUND THIS PROPERTY IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WAS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY IN 2000 A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT WAS APPROVED IN 2004. ORIGINAL BPP WAS ADOPTED ON JULY 23RD 2019 UNDER PETITION NUMBER OF THE DC DASH 17 DASH 1, 5, I. I'M IN A REZONING REQUEST HAS SUBMITTED SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH THIS IS THE PROPOSED FEE DPP AMENDMENT WILL INCORPORATE THE SMH PROPERTY INTO THE VILLAGE, A BOUNDARY. AND TO ALSO ESTABLISH SITE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS FOR THE HOSPITAL SITE. AND THE CURRENT LAND USE IF TELL YOU IS VILLAGE THIS WILL BE VILLAGE BE PENDING THE ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE 2020 OR 25, SO THE REZONE HAS TO A CORE. PRIOR TO THIS. A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING HELD BY THE APPLICANT ON 6/27/2024 AT 05:00PM IN PERSON AT SOLAS HALL LOCATED IN WELLING PARK NORTH PORT FLORIDA. THE APPLICATION HAS UNDERGONE THE REVIEW PROCESS PRE APPLICATION MEETING FOR THE PROJECT WAS HELD APRIL 3RD 2023. THERE WERE NO UNDERWENT MANAGEMENT REVIEW SDR REVIEW THE COMMENTS THAT YOU DO SEE HERE ARE RELATED TO FUTURE. >> DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE UNDER FUTURE PETITIONS AND IF THERE IS A REVISED TRAFFIC STUDY WILL EVALUATE THAT CAPACITY AT THE TIME OF DEVELOPMENT AND THAT FDOT SHOULD BE NOTIFIED OF THIS PROJECT IN CASE ANY TIME THINGS ARE JUST MEANT SUCH AS ADDING A PREEMPTION DEVICES ARE NEEDED AT THE INTERSECTIONS AGAIN THAT WILL HANDLED AT THE SITE DEVELOPMENT STAGE. THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS APPROVED ORDINANCE AS TOM FOREMAN CORRECTNESS. SO STATED PREVIOUSLY FIGURES HAVE BEEN UPDATED TO INCLUDE THE SMH PROPERTY IN THE FIGURES ARE OUTLINE TABLE OUTLINE OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES IN THE STAFF REPORT. THESE ARE MAXIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR ESTIMATE PROPERTY. ALSO THE FLOOR AREA RATIO AS WAS STATED BY THE APPLICANT. IT WOULD BE 3.0 IT WOULD NOT EXCEED THE THRESHOLD OF ONE POINT 0 FLOOR AREA RATIO FOR THE ENTIRE SITE. THEY'RE REQUESTING EXEMPTIONS FROM HEARING TO SECTION 3.8 THE MISCELLANEOUS PERFORMANCE STANDARDS VILLAGE E DESIGN STANDARDS AND ULDC REGULATIONS PERTAINING TO LANDSCAPING PARKING AND SIGN REGULATIONS. IN ADDITION WAS ADDING THE DEFINITION FOR PUBLIC INSTITUTIONAL USES AND CIVIC SPACES TO THE DEFINITION THIS DEFINITION IS TAKEN FROM THE ADOPTED VILLAGE DISTRICT. PATTERN BOOK. FIGURE FEATURES THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARD TABLES WITH THE CORRESPONDING NOTES. STATED STAFF HAS NO ISSUES WITH THE THE PARCEL. >> AND THE EXEMPTION >> HAS ASKED FOR EXEMPTION FROM THE DESIGN STANDARDS. STAFF UNDERSTANDS THAT A HOSPITAL IS VERY UNIQUE IN DESIGN. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE SEE NORMALLY NON-RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS SO WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY DO HAVE YOU D CRITERIA. >> AND DESIGN. HOWEVER IN THE THE DOCUMENTS WE HAVE THE WEST VILLAGE'S PATTERN BOOK. DOES TALK ABOUT THE REVIEW COMMITTEE. THIS WAS GRANTED BY COMMISSION IN 2017 TO GIVE THE AUTHORITY FOR DESIGN REVIEW TO THAT COMMITTEE. IN THE PATTERN PLAN ITSELF IT TALKS ABOUT THAT THE WEST VILLAGE'S REVIEW COMMITTEE LOOK AT THIS AND REVIEW IT THERE IS A PROVISION IN THERE THAT THERE WOULD BE A LETTER GIVEN TO STAFF OR ANY DEVELOPMENT. IN THERE. AND I WILL GO INTO FURTHER DETAIL ON STAFFS. >> I'M NOT A RECOMMENDATION OR NOT RECOMMEND PROVIDING THE RECOMMENDATION FURTHER ON THE PRESENTATION. >> THE MINIMUM PARKING CALCULATION STAFF HAS NO ISSUE WITH THAT THEY WILL BE DETERMINED AT THE TIME THE SITE AND DEVELOPMENT AND BECAUSE OF THE UNIQUENESS OF THE HOSPITAL THEY WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE. >> THAT TRANSPORTATION INFORMATION TRAFFIC INFORMATION. TO SEE WHAT THOSE CALCULATIONS SO WE WOULD HAVE TO REVIEW THAT THE SITE DEVELOPMENT STAGE SO STAFF IS SUPPORTING OF THAT. NO OPEN SPACES PROPOSED STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT A MINIMUM OF 5% OR 1.4 ACRES BE ALLOTTED FOR LANDSCAPING AND OPEN SPACE. REASON BEING WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE WILL HOLD AS A 0% WE DON'T KNOW IF THE PROPERTY COULD BE SOLD IN IN YEARS TO CALM THAT WOULD ALLOW SOMEBODY ELSE TO DEVELOP THAT SITE WITH 0 OPEN SPACE. ♪ BUT ♪ SPACE CAN BE FOR STORM WATER. STAFF WON'T KNOW AT THE TIME UNTIL THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT IS ARE UNDER WATER STORM WATER IS GROUND STORM WATER TO BE CALCULATED. SO STAFF IS ASKING FOR A MINIMUM REQUIREMENT OF 5%. THAT WE CAN COVER THE APPLICANT SAID THAT THERE IS NO ISSUE OF COVERING THAT, BUT WE JUST WANTED TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT WOULD SUPPORT THAT IN THE FUTURE. IN ADDITION, THE PLANNING AND ZONING ADVISORY BOARD FOR THIS PETITION, JULY 11TH 2024 THEIR RECOMMENDATION. IS THEY WANTED TO SAY A NUMBER BETWEEN 0, 5%, OPEN SPACE SO THEY RELIEVING THAT OPTION UP TO THE COMMISSION. STAFF RECOGNIZES VANESSA THE NECESSITY FLEXIBILITY IN SIGN REGULATIONS HOSPITAL MANY UNIQUE SIGNAGE THAT IS REQUIRED. FROM PARKING WALL SIGNAGE DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE ETC STEP UNDERSTANDS THAT WE DO SUPPORT. I WAIVE OR MODIFICATION BECAUSE WE CANNOT POTENTIALLY IDENTIFY ALL OF THE TYPES OF SIGNAGE THAT WOULD BE NEEDED AT THIS POINT. IN ADDITION THE NEW UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WILL EXEMPT HOSPITAL FROM THE SINE REGULATIONS AS A SPECIAL DISTRICT IT DOES QUALIFY AS A GOVERNMENT IS PER THE FLORIDA STATUTES. >> STAFF HAS REVIEWS THE PROPOSE APPLICATION FOR CONSISTENCY WITH THE FLORIDA STATUTES THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. >> AND THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. >> THE COMPLIANCE WITH FLORIDA STATUTES CHAPTER 1, 6, 6, 0, 4, 1, TO FOLLOW THE PROCEDURES FOR ADOPTION ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS IN THE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS PURSUANT TO THE STATUTE HAVE BEEN THAT ARE DETAILED IN SECTION 7 OF THE STAFF REPORT. SO THERE HAS BEEN NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS ADVERTISING AND POSTCARDS MAILED TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS. COMPLIANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT OF THIS. SO THE HOSPITAL IS A TAX EXEMPT AND TAKE HOWEVER, IN LOOKING AT THE REVIEW TO SEE WHAT IT WOULD BE. SOMETIMES ECONOMIC BENEFIT CANNOT BE MEASURED IN MONETARY TERMS. IT'S TO BE MEASURED AND INTANGIBLE TURNS OUT STATED IN THE STAFF REPORT. THE ONLY HEALTH CARE FACILITY THAT WE REALLY HAVE IS THE EMERGENCY ROOM AND TOLEDO BLADE. AND TO GET TO A HOSPITAL SARASOTA MEMORIAL HOSPITAL IS QUITE A DRIVE. DEPENDING ON IF YOU'RE GOING TO THE VENICE HOSPITAL OR SARASOTA YES, AN AMBULANCE DOESN'T HAVE TO STOP FOR TRAFFIC. BUT STILL THAT IS STILL IT TAKES A WHILE IF IT'S AN EMERGENCY SITUATION YOU WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING FOR CITIZENS. ALSO IT WILL PROVIDE ADVANCED HEALTHCARE. >> WHETHER IT'S GOING THROUGH CHEMOTHERAPY SURGERY OR ANY TYPE OF EMERGENCY. BLOOD TRANSFUSIONS AND THE LIKE THEY'RE NOT CAPABLE OF THAT AT THE EMERGENCY AROUND. SO WE NEED A FACILITY THAT IS CLOSE TO SERVE OUR RESIDENTS TO PROVIDE THESE MUCH-NEEDED FACILITIES. >> AND WE'RE GROWING OUR POPULATIONS ALMOST 80,000 WE NEED TO HAVE STAFF IS SUPPORTING THAT AND IT DOES MEET THE FUTURE LAND EXCUSE YOUR LAND USE ELEMENT GOAL ONE OBJECTIVE ONE ECONOMIC BENEFIT. AND ALSO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BENEFIT GOAL 5 TO ACHIEVE AN ECONOMICALLY STABLE COMMUNITY. NOT ONLY THAT THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT OBJECTIVE 3 POLICY 3.4 JOB CREATION THIS IS GOING TO CREATE A LOT OF JOBS. >> AS PRESENTED IN THE STAT SHOT, THERE ARE DOCTORS NURSES, TECHNICAL SKILLS, THERE WILL MAINTENANCE PEOPLE ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF SO THERE IS A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE JOBS. IT NEEDS TO TRANSPORTATION ELLIS POLICY 4.4. THE VILLAGE LAND USE GOAL 5 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT POLICY 13.1 OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN ADDITION POLICY 13.6 TALKS ABOUT THE VILLAGE BOUNDARIES THROUGH THE BPP PROCESS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY. AGAIN HERE IS THE SNAPSHOT IN TIME. THE TYPE OF A PHYSICAL THERAPIST PERCEPTION IS A MEDICAL SECRETARY. PROVIDES A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY. SO CHAPTER 53 THE ZONING LEE FOR VILLAGE. THE PROVISIONS IN THE ULDC ARE THE SAME AS THOSE IN THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. ALL REQUIREMENTS INFECTION 53 TO 14 THE VILLAGE DISTRICT PATTERN PLAN PROCESS WAS UNDERTAKEN AS REQUIRED. FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. WHEN IT WAS ADOPTED IN JULY 2029 THE CHANGES IN THE CURRENT PROPOSED AMENDMENT ARE MINOR AND TO COMPLY WITH THIS SECTION. THE AMENDMENTS TO REQUESTS TO MODIFY THE VILLAGE EVEN DPP HAS BEEN PROCESSED IN THE SAME MANNER CONSISTENT WITH THE INITIAL BPP APPLICATION HAS OUTLINED A NEW LDC SECTION 53 2 TO ONE. NOTICE IS A PUBLIC HEARINGS WERE MAILED. THERE THEY ARE PROPERLY NOTICED. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF PETITION NUMBER OF EPA 24 DASH 0, 8, 9, THE SARASOTA MEMORIAL HOSPITAL. SMH AT WOODLAND PARK VILLAGE EVP PMMA THROUGH ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 26 IN AMENDING THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO INCORPORATE BY REFERENCE. THE VILLAGE EVP PAY. STAFF IS SUPPORTING THAT THE THE THE ESTIMATES SITE IS EXEMPT FROM THE DISTRICT PLAN SIGN REGULATIONS RELATED TO A VOCATION HEIGHTS, ISAAC CETERA. THE MEETING PARKING CALCULATIONS WILL BE ANALYZED AND PROVIDED WITH THEIR THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE THE SUPPORTING DATA. FOR EACH PHASE OF DEVELOPMENT AT THE TIME OF MY MAJOR SITE DEVELOPMENT OR SITE DEVELOPMENT. WE'RE REQUESTING A MINIMUM OF 5% OPEN SPACE WHICH IS ONE 0.4 ACRES. AND ON STAFF IS DECLINING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AS TO AMEND EXEMPTING THE PROJECT FROM THE DESIGN STANDARDS AS PREVIOUSLY STATED IT IS UNDER THE WEST VILLAGE'S REVIEW COMMITTEE. IF IN THE GRANTED THE AUTHORITY TO REVIEW THAT. AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH STAFF RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO REBUTTAL. I THE APPLICANT. >> AGAIN FOR THE RECORD JACKSON AGENT FOR THE JUST WANT TO TOUCH ON THE THE OPEN SPACE MATTER THAT STAFF IS BROUGHT UP. AGAIN OUR REQUEST IS FOR THE MINIMUM ACREAGE FOR OPEN SPACE ON OUR SIDE OUR SIDE ALONE TO BE 0. IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT WITHIN THE VILLAGE EV DPP WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL SEE IF I CAN BRING MY OUR POINT BACK UP. SHARE THAT. >> YOU LOOK AT THE USE TABLES HERE FOR 3, 3, A. >> IT HAS A. IT HAS ALL THE ACREAGE. >> SEE IF I CAN GET THIS LITTLE BIGGER MIGHT NOT HELP BUT. >> THE PPP SPECIFIES THAT THE STANDARDS SO THAT INCLUDES THE OPEN SPACE ACREAGE IS NOT REQUIRED ON A PER PARCEL BASIS. SO WHEN THE MIXED USE AREA ALREADY IMPROVED WITHIN THE P AS A 111 ACRES AND THERE'S 32 THOSE ACRES ARE THE MINIMUM REQUIRED OPEN-SPACE ACRES. IT DOESN'T MEAN EVERY PARCEL IN THERE HAS TO SHARE IN THE 32 ACRES OF SPACE. IN FACT SOME OF THE PARCELS ONLY HAVE THAT OPEN SPACE AND SOME PARCELS HAVE OPEN SPACE ACREAGE REQUIRED AT ALL. BECAUSE WE'RE THE UNIQUE SITUATION OF BEING THE ONLY PROPERTY AT THIS TIME AND PUBLIC USE IS AN INSTITUTIONAL PUBLIC INSTITUTIONAL USES AND CIVIC SPACES DESIGNATION WE DON'T HAVE THE BENEFIT OF SAYING WELL THERE'S ALREADY ANOTHER PROPERTY AND HAS THE MINIMUM OPEN THAT THEY'RE CARING FOR US. ALSO IN RESPONSE AND WE DISCUSSED THIS AT P ZAB WE UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN OF HEY WHAT IF YOU TURN AROUND AND SELL IT SOMEBODY ELSE NOW THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD AND DEVELOP WITHOUT HAVING A MINIMUM ACREAGE REQUIREMENT FOR OPEN SPACE. WELL THE KEY HERE IS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE A PUBLIC INSTITUTIONAL USE IN THE CIVIC SPACE USE TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP ON PROPERTY. SO WE UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN BUT IT'S NOT AS IF IT HAS COMMERCIAL GENERAL OR A MIXED USE ZONING, ANYBODY CAN COME DOWN AND JUST YOU KNOW GOING FOR NAS AND SAY HERE I GO AGAIN THEY HAVE TO BE WITHIN QUALIFY. IT'S A PUBLIC INSTITUTIONAL USE IN CIVIC SPACE USE. ALSO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WILL BE LANDSCAPING ON THE PROPERTY STORM WATER WILL BE ACCOMMODATED IN ONE WAY OR THE OTHER KEY. STORM WATER WOULD YOUR WHAT YOUR STANDARD, YOU KNOW DRY OR WET RETENTION POND. IT ALSO COULD BE THERE ALSO COULD BE A SCENARIO IN THE FUTURE WHERE 3 AS A PORTION OF A STORM WATER PAWN THAT WEATHER IS DRY OR WET THEY NEED TO ADD A FACILITY IN THAT LOCATION. THAT STORM WATER THEN BECOMES BOLTED. SO WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN ACCOUNTED FOR OPEN SPACE NOW GOES WAY BECAUSE OF THE DEMAND FOR ADDITIONAL SERVICE ON THE PROPERTY. SO WE UNDERSTAND STAFF'S POSITION HERE RESPECT THEIR POSITION. WE HAVE NEVER WANT TO MAINTAIN OUR REQUEST OF THE 0 MINIMUM ACREAGE FOR OPEN SPACE ON SITE THAT CONCLUDES MY ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. MOVING TO OR REBUTTAL. >> YES, GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS YOEST AF WOULD LIKE TO REBUT THAT. YES, ALTHOUGH 10% OPEN SPACES REQUIRED FOR THE OTHER USES. THIS PARTICULAR USE IS BEING CARVED OUT WITH THE 27 ACRES STAFF WANTS TO ENSURE THAT THE OPEN SPACES ADDRESS THAT THERE IS SOME OPEN SPACE AS I SAID THE FUTURE HAS NO GUARANTEES. STAFF WOULD LIKE TO PUT THAT IN PLACES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT SO WE'RE MOVING TO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> RIGHT >> MOVING ON TO COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS AND AGAIN LET'S TRY JUST SAY WITH 5 MINUTE ROUND SO WE CAN ALL HAVE CHANCE TO GET SOMETHING IN THE FIRST FIRST ROUND THROUGH AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A SECOND ROUND IF NECESSARY. COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. >> YES, AND FORGIVE ME GOING HER YOU ALONG WITH ANSWERS. THE DOCUMENT AND IN ORDINANCE IS REFERENCING. >> ULDC CHAPTERS. >> AND I'M CURIOUS BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE POTENTIALLY APPROVING THIS AT THE SAME DATE AS WE ARE GOING TO POTENTIALLY BE APPROVING THE NEW ULDC WHY ARE YOU USING OLD ULDC REFERENCE NUMBERS INSTEAD OF POTENTIALLY NEW ONES BECAUSE DOCUMENT IS GOING TO. CARRY FORWARD. LONG AFTER THE OLD ULDC IS RENO. >> DOES MAKE SENSE MAKES ABSOLUTE SENSE. >> AND I WANT TO EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT SO I DO WANT TO PULL UP THE ORDINANCE I'M TOLD THAT SO THE REASON BEING FIRST OF ALL THIS WILL BE HEARD BEFORE THE ULDC ADOPTION. THESE ARE SCHEDULED FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS. >> THE FOR SECOND READING WILL BE THE AUGUST. ITS SPECIAL MEETING. THESE WILL ALL BE DONE PRIOR TO ALL THE ULDC CHANGES THAT'S WHY WE'RE REFERENCING IT I DON'T SINCE THE ULDC AND THE ULDC EFFECTIVE DATE IS GOING TO BE OCTOBER 28TH. SO THIS WILL BE APPROVED PRIOR TO THAT THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE CURRENT IT. REFERENCES TO THE CURRENT TO ADOPTED UVALDE SAY. SEE AND THEY'RE SUBJECT TO THE CODE IN PLACE AT THE TIME AS WELL. >> WOULD IT BE. >> POSSIBLE TO USE OLD CODE NUMBERS WITH A SLASH WITH NEW CODE PREFERENCES. >> THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE A CITY ATTORNEY QUESTIONED MISSION DOES RECOMMEND BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A NEW CODE. >> YEAH I SEE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING I'M JUST TRYING MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT WE'RE REPEALING THE OLD ULDC SO WHATEVER THOSE NEW REQUIREMENTS ARE ARE WHAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE ALL. >> SO ACT. >> ELAINE RIGHT DIRECTOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FOR THE RECORD I HAVE BEEN SWORN. IN FLORIDA AND MOST OTHER STATES BUT ACCORDING TO STATUTES THEY ARE SUBJECT TO THE CODES IN EFFECT AT THE TIME THEY MADE THEIR APPLICATION. SO EVEN IF OKAY CHANGES AFTER THEY MAKE THEIR APPLICATION THERE STILL SUBJECT TO THE CODE IN PLACE AT THE TIME OF THAT APPLICATION THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARITY. >> MOVING ON TO MINUTES OPEN SPACE. YES. I AGREE OPEN SPACE HAVING IT 0. THIS DOCUMENT IS GOING TO SURVIVE ALL OF AND WE CANNOT HAVE IT EASY ROW BECAUSE. INTENTION CAN'T BE CAPTURED IN THIS DOCUMENT. I APPRECIATE THAT THEY INTEND TO HAVE THIS OPEN SPACE IS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT. BUT IT'S VERY HARD TO CAPTURE ATTENTION IN A DOCUMENT. SO I I HAVE A COUPLE OF AS TO HOW WE CAN POSSIBLY GET THERE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF I AGREE THAT STAFF'S 5% RECOMMENDATION. I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE DEVELOPER IS CONCERNED WITH HAVING TO COME BACK FOR A BE DPP AMENDMENT IN THE FUTURE IT'S TIME CONSUMING. >> SO MAYBE THE WAY WE CAN CAPTURE THAT INTENTION IS TO KEEP IT AT 5% WITH LIKE A LITTLE ASTERISK THAT'S SAYING THAT ADMINISTRATIVE AUTHORITY FOR ANYTHING FROM LIKE ONE AND A HALF PERCENT TO 5%. I THINK WONDER THAT ONE AND A HALF PERCENT THEN IT HAS TO COME TO COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL AND I DON'T KNOW THAT TO A COMPROMISE I WAS TRYING TO FIND NUMBER MY XYZ. >> AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE ON PAPER. BUT. >> I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE BECAUSE I CAN'T I CAN'T GOOD CONSCIENCE PROVE 0. BUT I ALSO SEE THEIR POINT OF VIEW WITH THE >> IF YOU GO OUT OF TIME. WILL DEFINITELY NEED A SECOND OKAY COMMISSIONER LANGDON. >> AND THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. I MISSED FIRST TIME THROUGH A 150 FEET IN HEIGHT IS HOW MANY FLOORS ANTICIPATED. >> IT SPANNED 10 STORIES AND WHAT YOU CAN FIT 250 FEET FOR A HOSPITAL. >> OKAY TERRIFIC. I'M WONDERING HAS THE WEST VILLAGE'S REVIEW COMMITTEE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THE RENDERINGS THAT YOU SHOWED US IN YOUR PRESENTATION IT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW AND ACTUALLY BEEN SHARED AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS WITH CAN. >> MY QUESTION RELATIVE TO THAT TO THE REVIEW COMMITTEE EXPRESS ANY CONCERNS WITH THOSE RENDERINGS FROM A DESIGN PERSPECTIVE. >> THE NO MAN. DID NOT EXPRESS ANY CONCERN WITH DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THEM, BUT FAR AS THE MEETINGS CONCERNS. >> OKAY AND AND YOU. >> I HAVE SOME COMMENTS BUT ALL YIELD THE FLOOR TO OTHER QUESTIONS. OKAY. VICE MAYOR. >> YEAH I I DON'T QUESTIONS THIS MUCH SITE TO COMMENT SO I'M GOING TO TAKE THE LIBERTY TO. WE SUBMIT THIS POINT BRING CERTAINLY BRING PROPERTY INTO DPP. I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH. SIGNAGE AND PARKING YOU KNOW AGAIN NO PROBLEMS FROM A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT. WELL, I APPRECIATE THE APPLICANT'S DECIDED OPEN SPACE. THERE'S NO WAY. YOU KNOW THE KIND OF QUALITY PRODUCT THAT AT THE HOSPITAL PUTS OUT AND HAS PUT OUT HISTORICALLY THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO 5% OR CLOSE TO IT. OPEN SPACE WITH LANDSCAPING AND OTHER THINGS SO. FOR A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT SEE IT A BIG ISSUE AND AND AND I WOULD DEFER TO STAFF SUGGESTION OR RECOMMENDATION THERE I DON'T THINK IT'S A REASONABLE NUMBER. YOU KNOW FAR THAT ASIDE STANDARD-ISSUE DELIGHTED YOU KNOW THE 2 PARTIES ARE WORKING COLLABORATIVELY TO WORK THEIR WAY THROUGH THOSE ISSUES BECAUSE SO. APPRECIATIVE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN TO FALL ON THE CITY'S PLATE. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR EFFORTS TO NO IT'S IT'S YOU KNOW THERE ARE JUSTIFIABLE ISSUES AND CONCERNS ON BOTH SIDES. I THINK YOU'RE BOTH GREAT PARTNERS AND YOU'RE GOING TO WORK THROUGH THIS ISSUE. AND MAKE SURE YOU'VE GOT A COMFORT LEVEL BOTH PLACES THAT THE DEVELOPMENT OVER A PERIOD OF CAN TAKE PLACE IN AN EXPEDITIOUS AND ECONOMICALLY YOU KNOW SHOULD MATTER AND AT THE SAME TIME DISTRICTS GOING BE COMFORTABLE WITH WITH THAT THEY'RE GOING TO CONFORM TO REASONABLE DESIGN STANDARDS I DON'T THINK THIS WOULD BE ANY ISSUES THERE SO I'M DELIGHTED WE DON'T HAVE TO REALLY YOU WE CAN KICK THAT DOWN THE ROAD A LITTLE BIT FOR SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO OKAY. >> I'LL HIT STOP FOR YOU. COMMISSIONER EVERAGE. >> YES YEAH, MOST OF MY QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED DURING THE MEETINGS THAT I HAD THAT MY AGENDA BRIEFING IN THE FIRST NUMBER THAT CAME TO MY MIND WAS 5% FOR THE OPEN SPACE. I SAID THAT IN THE MEETING EARLIER, BUT I ABLE I YOU KNOW LESS THAN THAT I I UNDERSTAND THE REASONS WHY UNDERSTAND THE REASONS WHY THEY WANT TO GO THAT ROUTE SO IF THERE IS A COMPROMISE I CAN I DEFINITELY WORK WITH THAT. OTHER PART ABOUT YOU KNOW HAVING THE REVIEW COMMITTEE. IT'S KIND OF HARD YOU KNOW HOPEFULLY THEY'LL WORK IT OUT KIDS SAME THAT I SAID THE MEETINGS, I'D RATHER SEE THEM WORK IT OUT BEING PUT ON OUR SHOULDERS. ALMOST LIKE BEING A REFEREE. I I THINK THAT WILL GO THROUGH THIS WE'LL GET OUR ANSWERS COME SECOND READING THAT'S ALL I QUESTIONS. >> OK THANK YOU SET FOR MYSELF AND I WANT TO TAKE 5 MINUTES. >> I HAD A QUESTION >> SOMEBODY SAID IN THE FUTURE. DEVELOPMENT WOULD HAVE TO BE FOR THIS PARTICULAR USE AND INDUSTRIAL USE. HOSPITAL. AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY. >> PUBLIC TO TO SHUN PUBLIC STAND CIVIC SPACES. >> COULDN'T HAVE I KNOW THIS WHEN THEY'RE READY BUT THAT COULD BE A COSTCO BUILT HERE WITH THAT DESIGNATION. >> NO COSTCO WOULDN'T MEET THAT LAND INSTITUTIONAL SCHOOL. POTENTIALLY SO THEY'RE SOMETHING SIMILAR. >> OKAY TO THOSE USES SOME THINK PUBLIC INSTITUTION LONGER CIVIC OKAY, CORRECT ALL RIGHT. I THERE WAS SOME I WAS THINKING. YES IF YOU OPEN UP THE DOOR ANYTHING CAN GO IN THERE, BUT IT'S VERY. >> WOMEN OKAY THAT WAS MY FIRST AS FAR AS THE REVIEW I >> HEARD THAT THAT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2017, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF ANTICIPATE IT. HOSPITAL. >> I MEAN THEY'RE UNDERSTAND THAT THE REST OF THAT PROJECT THAT WAS A MASK THAT THAT WAS A MASSIVE UNDERTAKING AND AND TO HAVE SOME I GUESS CONTROL OVER WHAT GOES ON, BUT. YOU SAID THAT'S ALREADY IN THIS APPLICATION. >> SO THE THE REVIEW COMMITTEE, DPP FERTILITY WAS APPROVED IN 2019 20 AND JUST THAT THE TIMING SAID THE HOSPITAL. CHOIR, THE PROPERTY IN 2015. THE REVIEW COMMITTEE WAS CREATED VIA SOME APPROVAL BY THE COMMISSION IN 2017. AND IT WAS IMPLEMENTED VILLAGES E IN 2019 BUT THE VILLAGE EVEN 2019 DIDN'T INCLUDE SARASOTA MEMORIAL PROPERTY. AND SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S JUST THE THE COMPLEXITIES OF THE TIMING OF HOW THAT HAS TRANSPIRED IS WHY WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THIS WITH WELL IN PART TO TRY TO FIND THE HAPPY MEDIUM COMMISSIONER LANGDON TO FOLLOW UP AND YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT ARCHITECTURE. THEIR APPROVAL AUTHORITY IS MORE THAN ♪ JUST ARCHITECTURE. I MEAN COULD GET INTO ARGUABLY IT WOULD DEPEND ON THOSE SITES TO AN ATTORNEY FOR ONE SIDE SAY THAT ATTORNEY FOR THE OTHER SIDE SAY THAT DICTATES A PLACEMENT OF CERTAIN FACILITIES AND SO ON AND SO ON SO I MEAN IT IS IT'S IT'S IN THE VILLAGE EVEN DPP THEY HAVE TO ISSUE A LETTER OF APPROVAL BEFORE YOU CAN SUBMIT THEY ASKED THAT STAFF WILL ACCEPT. SO EVEN THOUGH WE'RE CONFIDENT WE CAN WORK SOMETHING OUT THAT IS A VERY VERY VERY POWERFUL LETTER APPROVAL AUTHORITY TO HAVE. >> STAFF SAYS 8. I CAN'T DO ANYTHING. >> SO WE'RE WORKING THROUGH WITH THEM WE'VE MET WITH THEM BEFORE WE SUBMITTED APPLICATIONS. WE MET WITH THEM. 4 P'S APP WE MET WITH THEM AFTER PIECE AFTER MEETING WITH THEM AGAIN WORKING THROUGH THIS. BUT IT'S A PROCESS. >> THANK YOU SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS. AND INCLUDING THAT REVIEW BOARD AND THE PROCESS THAT AGAIN I THINK WAS PUT IN PLACE REASONS OTHER THAN FOR FOR HOSPITAL. IT WOULD REALLY DELAY THIS THIS PROJECT AND I KNOW WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR HOSPITALS IN PORT, A VERY LONG TIME. >> DO I HAVE THAT IN MY YES MANUFACTURER OPINION. VERY GOOD. IT'S OF THAT. >> AND I'M SORRY I THINK I HAD ONE MORE MEETING ONE MORE. QUESTION HERE ABOUT. >> THE BILL WOULD YEAH I I THINK COMMISSIONER THROUGHOUT HAVE SOMETHING LIKE I'M IN I'M LIKE I CAN'T GO BELOW THIS, I WOULDN'T BE COMFORTABLE WITH 0 BUT IT CAN'T GO BELOW >> SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE FOR WHEN SOMEBODY IS READY TO MAKE MOTIONS OR WHATEVER THAT IF I COULD COMMENT ON THAT TOO WE WE DO THAT FOUGHT COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL WE THINK THAT ACTUALLY IS A GOOD IDEA WHAT WE WANT TO AVOID IS. >> 5 SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD NUMBER RIGHT JUST 5 MEAN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 4, 5%, RIGHT, BUT 5 SEEMS MORE SOLID. BUT IF IT'S 5% AND THERE'S A THINK ABOUT HOW DEVELOPMENT PURSE FOR A HOSPITAL FACILITY FOR A PUBLIC HOSPITAL STILL A IT'S BECAUSE THERE'S A DEMAND SO IF THEY WANT TO BRING SOMETHING ONTO THE SITE THAT DOESN'T EXIST IT'S BECAUSE THERE'S ALREADY A DEMAND FOR IT. SO THAT MEANS THAT THE DEMANDS THEY'RE NOW THEY HAVE TO GET CLEAN APPROVED. IF IT'S 4% AND WE WE NICK THAT AND WE HAVE TO COME BACK THROUGH THE PROCESS WITHOUT HAVING THE ABILITY. COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL PUT FORWARD AND WE HAVE TO AMEND BEFORE WE CAN GET ANYTHING APPROVED WAS JUST A WASTE THAT SERVICE ON SO HAVING THAT FLEXIBILITY WOULD BE WOULD BE VERY IMPORTANT FOR HOSPITAL. >> THANKS FOR CLARIFYING ALL RIGHT SO I COMMISSIONER LANGDON. >> THANK YOU ALL MAKE COUPLE OF >> REALLY OKAY WITH THE HEIGHT. VARIATION THAT A WHOLE LOT OF IT'S HARD FOR ME TO IMAGINE A PROJECT THAT WOULDN'T HAVE AT LEAST 5%. OPEN SPACE. I'M CERTAINLY NOT DICTATING WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE. AND 10 OR 15 YEARS FROM NOW AND ADJUSTMENT HAD TO BE MADE TO THAT OPEN SPACE. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A BAD THING TO HAVE TO COME BACK IN A PUBLIC FORUM AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. AND HAVE A FUTURE COMMISSION WEIGH IN ON THAT SO I'M SUPPORTIVE OF STAFF'S 5 YEARS. I PERCENT RECOMMENDATION AT TAPS WHAT WOULD NORMALLY BE CALLED FOR. AND I REALLY THINK YOU'LL HAVE NO TROUBLE HITTING THAT 5% WHEN YOU ACTUALLY LAY OUT YOUR PLANS. >> REGARDING THE REVIEW COMMITTEE. >> I I REALLY DON'T WANT TO GET IN THE MIDDLE OF >> I WOULD JUST REITERATE WHAT I SAID DURING OUR ONE-ON-ONE THIS COMMUNITY HAS PAID TAXES. HOSPITAL FOR DECADES. AND WE WANT OUR HOSPITALS. I'M CURRENTLY WELLEN PARK ANATOMY HOMES AND SARASOTA MEMORIAL. ENJOY A VERY STRONG SUPPORT AND BRANDS IN THIS COMMUNITY DATE. I WOULD HATE TO SEE THIS PROJECT BE DELAYED AS YOU GUYS COULDN'T FIGURE OUT THAT DESIGN STUFF. SO I HAVE GREAT FAITH AND BOTH ORGANIZATIONS THAT YOU'LL FIND A PATH FORWARD AND THAT WILL NOT BECOME A STUMBLING BLOCK. REGARDING THE SIGNS CLEARLY NEED RELIEF FROM SIGNED REGULATIONS I UNDERSTAND FROM FROM OUR MEETING THAT WE HAD ACTUALLY THE STATE DICTATES SOME OF YOUR ASSIGNED REQUIREMENTS SO THAT MAKES A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE TO ME IT'S SO THE 3 ADJUSTMENTS I DO SUPPORT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. AND I JUST COURAGE. THE DESIGN COMMITTEE AND SO MEMORIAL TO HAVE A MEETING OF THE MINDS REGARDING. YOU KNOW SPECIFIC REQUIREMENT I THINK YOU GUYS ARE UP TO THE TASK YOU'RE PRETTY SMART. THAT'S IT FOR NOW I TONIGHT. >> YES FOR THE FOR LAW FIRM I HAVE BEEN SWORN. AT RISK OF BEING THIS DEBT WORSE THAT'S PRETTY WELL BEATEN UP NOW ABOUT OPEN SPACE. FOR US TO CONTINUE TO SORT OF HANG IN THERE ON THIS ISSUE I HOPE UNDERSCORES THE FACT THAT IT REALLY IS IMPORTANT. SO YOU KNOW I CAN'T HELP BUT NOTICE ACTUALLY FEEL KIND OF PROUD ABOUT THE FACT WE TALKED ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THIS PROPERTY BACK IN 2000 WHEN IT WAS ANNEXED I WAS LAWYER THAT THE ANNEXATION SO I'VE BEEN AROUND A WHILE AND THEN DEALT THESE KIND OF ISSUES I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT I'VE HAD ANY NUMBER OF INSTANCES OVER THE YEARS WHERE STANDARDS GET PUT IN PLACE PERCENTAGES AND THIS BY THE WAY IS AN ARBITRARY NUMBER ITS STAFF IS NOT PRESENTED YOU WITH THE STUDY THE SAY WELL 5% IS APPROPRIATE HERE FOR A HOSPITAL BECAUSE WE STUDIED HOSPITALS IN MIAMI IN ARCADIA AND EVERYWHERE IN-BETWEEN AND THIS IS THIS IS THE AVERAGE PERCENTAGE SPACE THIS IS JUST AN ARBITRARY NUMBER. SO WHAT WE HAVE IS AN ARBITRARY NUMBER THAT. THE ONLY REAL PURPOSE OF IT IS THE SET UP A SCENARIO. 1015 20 YEARS FROM NOW. YOU KNOW THAT SOMETHING YOU KNOW GOT TO TALK ABOUT TODAY'S MEDICINE YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE'S GOING TO BRING WELL THERE'S A TIME WHEN WHEN ERIC SELLER ACRES LINEAR ACCELERATORS IS THE MEDICAL TERM FOR RADIATION MACHINE FOR CANCER TREATMENT I SO THERE WAS A TIME THOSE DIDN'T EXIST AND WINDOWS CAME ABOUT IT REQUIRED THAT WAS A NEW SERVICE TO BE DO SO WHAT IF THERE WAS A NEW SERVICE THAT COULD BE PROVIDED. YOU AT THIS SITE THE BENEFIT THE CITIZENS OF PORT. AND WE HAVE TO COME BACK AND GO THROUGH A 4 MONTH PROCESS. JUST TO JUST TO GET THAT EVERYBODY WOULD NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT WOULD JUST DELAY THE BEING BUILT SECONDLY THE DEFINITION OF OPEN SPACE. AND CHANGE. I'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS I'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS DEFINITION THINK AGAIN WE'RE NOT TAUGHT SO MANY MENTION THE COSTCO WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A COSTCO WHERE AND APPROVAL IS MADE THE PLANS ARE SUBMITTED THE COSTCO IS BUILT AND IT'S DONE THERE'S NEVER GOING TO BE PHASE 2 OR 3 THIS IS A MULTI-YEAR PROCESS AND I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AND WHAT THE DEFINITION OF OPEN SPACE CHANGES. SO THAT SAY WELL WHAT WHAT THEY DO WITH THAT THING. SO RIGHT CITY THAT THEY JUST TOTALLY REWROTE THEIR LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS ABOUT 3 YEARS AGO JUST LIKE YOU ALL ARE FIXING TO DO. THEY CHANGED THE DEFINITE THEY CHANGE HOW THEY MEASURED THE HEIGHT OF BUILDINGS. SO NOW. THEY HAVE BEACH PLANS FOR THESE AREAS THE CONTEMPLATED THAT NOTHING TALLER THAN A HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING NOW SUNDAY MEASURE BUILDING RIGHT THERE. SO WHAT IF OPEN SPACE GETS MEASURED DIFFERENTLY AND THINGS THAT TODAY WOULD COUNT OPEN SPACE. ALL OF A SUDDEN DON'T COUNT. SPACE AND THEN THE LAST THING THAT'S KIND OF A HEAD SCRATCHER FOR ME SO. THE VILLAGE REGULATORY SCHEME. THE VILLAGE DISTRICT PATTERN PLAN INDEX MAP THE PATTERN BOOK THE COMP PLAN ALL OF THOSE THINGS HAVE WORKED TOGETHER REALLY WELL AND WELL IN PART I THINK EVERYBODY WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. SO RIGHT NOW TODAY THERE COULD BE PROPERTIES GOING FORWARD IN THIS VILLAGE IN VILLAGE E THAT WOULD NOT THE REQUIRED TO HAVE ANY OPEN SPACE. OKAY BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THE REGULATIONS WERE. I WOULD YOU WANT TO TREAT THE HOSPITAL DIFFERENTLY. ESPECIALLY WHERE THE NEGATIVE THE ONLY POSSIBLE NEGATIVE IMPACT HERE IS A NEGATIVE IMPACT THAT CAUSES THE WAY. NOW AS JACKSON BEEN COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL TALKED ABOUT HAVING SOME MINIMAL AMOUNT SUBJECT TO THE ADMINISTRATOR REVIEW IF YOU GO BELOW IT. YOU KNOW THAT WOULD ELIMINATE THE DELAY ASPECT. BUT IT STILL NEEDS TO BE A MINIMAL AMOUNT BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE TOO BIG OF A MOUNTAIN STAFF CAN GO YOU KNOW I MOVE I WANT TO PROVE THAT SO SO 0 IS UNPALATABLE PERHAPS SMALL AMOUNT WITH ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL ABILITY PLEASE PLEASE DON'T TREAT THE HOSPITAL PROPERTY DIFFERENTLY ON THIS ISSUE THAN OTHER PROPERTY WOULD BE TREATED IN THE THANK THANK THANK MADAM MA US TO FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS FROM. >> FOR THAT IS THE COMMISSIONER TELLS TO WAY RELATED TO MISTER BOEHNER COMMENTS. LET ME ASK YOU WHAT ABOUT 5% WITH THE ABILITY FOR AN ADMINISTRATOR. REVIEW. AND SPIRIT OF NEGOTIATION. SO. >> WORSENING TODAY'S DEFINITION ABOUT SPACE. SO FROM THE HOT THE HOSPITAL FOLKS HAVE TOLD US. >> THAT THAT'S A RANGE WHERE THEY WOULD VERY LIKELY HAVE A PROBLEM. OKAY, LOWER THE NUMBER THE LESS LIKELY THEY WOULD BE A PROBLEM. SO 5% AND AGAIN THAT'S THAT'S JUST. THAT'S JUST SURE IF THAT'S AN ARBITRARY NUMBER WITH THAT WE WOULD BE MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE WITH. YOU THE REALLY THE DISCUSSION THAT THESE AB WAS AROUND THAT'S REALLY KIND OF WHERE THE DISCUSSION WAS THAT WOULD BE A MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE NUMBER AND WOULD SUBSTANTIALLY ELIMINATE. CHANCE OF DELAY IN THE >> AND MY SECOND QUESTION AND BELIEVE FOR STAFF. AROUND THE ISSUE OF THE DEFINITION OF OPEN SPACE. THIS ORDINANCE IS APPROVED TODAY WITH OUR CURRENT DEFINITION OF OPEN SPACE. 15 OR 20 YEARS FROM NOW IF CHANGING THE DEFINITION OF OPEN SPACE WHICH DEFINITION WHAT THIS ENTITY BE REQUIRED TO >> COUPLE QUESTIONS IN THE VILLAGE EV TPP IT LISTS OPEN TRYING TO PULL IT UP AND I'M HAVING A COMPUTER ISSUE. YOU SEE IF I CAN ACCESS IT HERE IT DOES DEFINE WHAT CAN BE INCLUDED AS OPEN SPACE THAT'S PART OF THAT ADOPTED THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD TO BE. AND ALSO AND I JUST WANT TO INTERJECT YOU KNOW SAYING THAT WE'RE TREATING YOU KNOW THAT 5% IS ARBITRARY NUMBER. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE AMONG STAFF WE DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO DO A STUDY CETERA BUT PCD ZONING IS 30% OF THE SITE. SO I DON'T THINK IT'S UNREASONABLE FROM THE STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE AND EVEN IF IT WENT FROM ONE PERCENT TO 5%. WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT WERE FLEXIBLE THAT THIS WAS JUST A BEGINNING NUMBER AND I'M GOING TO PULL THAT UP BECAUSE I KNOW IT DOES IDENTIFY. >> YOU KNOW FACE AND I WANT TO HAVE THAT DONE AND LOOKING FOR THAT I MEAN MAYBE A COMPROMISE POSITION. IT'S IF. THE DESIGN COMMITTEE. >> IS WELLING IS TO LOCK IN A DEFINITION OF OPEN SPACE FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S. FEASIBLE ARE AMENABLE TO THE PARTIES. >> YOU LOOKING FOR THE. THIS A I. I'M JUST GOING SEARCHES. >> SO THE MINIMUM OPEN STATES A SPACE CRITERIA. IT SHALL INCLUDE BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE FOLLOWING BUFFERS LANDSCAPED AREAS AND OFF-STREET PARKING AREAS, DRY DETENTION AREAS EXISTING OR PLANNED BODIES OF WATER INCLUDING STORM WATER MANAGEMENT AREAS, CONSISTENT WITH THE ULDC ACTIVE AND PASSIVE RECREATION AREAS SUCH AS PLAYGROUNDS GOLF COURSES MULTI-DAY TRAILS I KNOW THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT ON THIS PROPERTY. INTERIOR LANDSCAPED THAT'S WITHIN THE COMMERCIAL OR BUILDING PERIMETER LANDSCAPING SO THERE IS SOME FLEXIBILITY HERE TO REACH THAT WILL THEY REACH THAT WITH THEIR DESIGN YES, BUT THERE'S NO GUARANTEE. WITH 0. >> I YELLED OK THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. >> YEAH BEFORE WE BEGIN MAYOR, I WANT TO VOICE OBJECTION TO THIS FIVE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT FOR US ASK HER QUESTIONS GET ANSWER FROM STAFF AND BE ABLE TO REBUT THAT IT'S JUST. >> NOT GOOD DECISION MAKING POLICY. >> SO NOW I WILL START MY NEXT 5 ON THE TABLE IT GIVES A FOOTNOTE NUMBER 8. >> HOWEVER, I DO NOT SEE A NUMBER 8 IN THE ACTUAL CHART. SO MAYBE YOU GUYS CAN GET ON FIGURE OUT WHERE THAT BELONGS I LOOKED AND LOOKED AND I COULDN'T FIND I DON'T WANT TO WASTE MY TIME LOOKING FOR ANSWER ON THAT BUT I WILL BE SURE TO CHECK FOR SECOND READING. I'M GOING FIGURE 6003.1 8 ON PAGE 39. WHEN LOOKING AT THIS A P P. THERE'S A WETLAND SUPER IMPOSED ON THE PROJECT. AND IT'S APPROXIMATELY ACRES OR MINUS 8 ACRES IS APPROXIMATELY 25% OF THIS PROPERTY OF THIS PARCEL. AND I AM REALLY SURPRISED THAT NOBODY HAS MENTIONED IT DURING THE PRESENTATIONS GIVEN BY STAFF OR THE DEVELOPER. I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW ARE YOU GOING TO MITIGATING 25% OF WETLANDS. ALL. >> ALL HAVE A CRYSTAL LLOYD A PROJECT OR SORRY TERRY MCKNIGHT IS ECOLOGIST BUT THERE'S BECAUSE BE WILL BE THERE'S THERE'S REGULATORY PROCESS THAT >> GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS KERRY MCKNIGHT WITH MONARCH ECOLOGY I ACTUALLY HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN NOW. >> DO YOU SWEAR THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO PROVIDE IS TRUE AND ACCURATE TO THE BEST YOUR KNOWLEDGE TO TALK ABOUT. >> I THANK COMMISSIONER TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE WETLAND MITIGATION SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE ALREADY GONE THROUGH AN EXTENSIVE SWIFTMUD PERMITTING PROCESS TO DEAL WITH THE WETLAND IMPACTS I'M WE HAVE US WITH A PERMIT THAT WAS ISSUED IN JULY OF 23 AND THE WETLANDS ARE GOING TO BE MITIGATED OFF-SITE BY PURCHASING MITIGATION BANK CREDITS FROM MIKE A MITIGATION BANK. >> SO FOR THIS COMMONER. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN. >> IN THE SAME SO WE DO WOULD YOU HAVE ON SITE WE HAVE 7.7 4 ACRES OF WETLANDS THAT RECLINED ON SITE ICE WITH WHEN YOU OF COURSE TO YOU KNOW ALLOW FOR DEVELOPMENT OF THE WE HAVE TO IMPACT WEAPONS IT'S A SMALL SITE IS REALLY NO WAY TO POINT I'M SO TO DO THAT WE DO HAVE TO DO WHAT'S CALLED MITIGATION. AND THERE'S 3 DIFFERENT OPTIONS YOU CAN DO FOR MEDICATION YOU CAN DO ON SITE MITIGATION WHICH CAN BUT CREATION OR ENHANCEMENT OF WETLANDS EXCEPT YOU CAN FIND AN OFF-SITE MITIGATION SITE OR YOU CAN DO YOU CAN MITIGATION BANK WHAT A MITIGATION BANK IS ARE THERE BASICALLY CONSERVATION LANDS THAT ARE PERMANENT BY THE AGENCIES WHERE THEY'RE ACTUALLY PERMIT IN MITIGATION BANKS THAT THEY ESSENTIALLY DO ALL THE MITIGATION FOR YOU THEY DO ALL THE ENHANCEMENTS AND YOU CAN BASICALLY GO TO THE BANK AND BY CREDIT AND THOSE CREDITS ARE BASICALLY WHAT'S USED TO OFFSET IMPACTS. >> SO AT THE END OF THE DAY WHAT I'M HEARING IS YOU'RE GOING TO BE FILLING IN THIS WETLANDS HIGH CREDIT TO THE MAKE TO ABLE TO FILL IN THESE CORRECT AND THOSE THOSE MITIGATION CREDITS HAVE ACTUALLY ALREADY BEEN PAID FOR IN FULL. >> THANK YOU SURE THAT'S A HEFTY PRICE IT'S NOT CHEAP. ♪ >> AS FAR AS THE WEST VILLAGE'S REVIEW JUST FOR EVERYBODY'S INFORMATION THAT REVIEW ♪ >> COMMITTEE ENTAILS ONE INDIVIDUAL FROM THE MASTER DEVELOPER. 2 INDIVIDUALS FROM THE WEST VILLAGE'S IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT AND THE CITY OF NORTH PORT STAFF IS AN ADVISORY NON VOTING MEMBER WAS APPOINTED BY CITY MANAGER. SO THE THE WEST REVIEW COMMITTEE WAS CREATED BUT THERE IS OVERSIGHT BY THE DEVELOPER WEST VILLAGES IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT AND STAFF GETS TO OFFER THEIR INPUT. I AM ABSOLUTELY CONFIDENT THAT THE. WBRC THE DEVELOPER WILL BE ABLE TO COME TO SOME TERMS WITH BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS A BENEFIT NOT ONLY TO THE CITY OF NORTH PORT BUT IT'S A BENEFIT TO ONE PARK AREA AND IT'S ALSO THEN IF IT TOO SARASOTA MEMORIAL. I DON'T BELIEVE WE ARE OF THE AUTHORITY TO BE ABLE TO WAVE THE AUTHORITY OF THE WEST REVIEW COMMITTEE. I. >> I HAVEN'T HEARD THAT WE HAVE THAT AUTHORITY I CAN'T IMAGINE WHY WE WOULD WANT THAT AUTHORITY. >> ESPECIALLY WHEN WE INSTITUTED THIS REVIEW COMMITTEE WHEN WE APPROVED THE BTP >> WHENEVER YOU GUYS ARE READY AS FAR AS THE PARKING GOES THERE'S ALREADY A CODE FOR PARKING IN SEEMS TO BE REASONABLE. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING FOR AN EXEMPTION. BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT OF PARKING KOHL'S AND NOT GIVING AWAY THE FARM TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP DEVELOP DEVELOP AND THEN YEARS DOWN THE ROAD NOT HAVE ANYWHERE FOR ANYBODY TO PARK AND HAVE A HUGE PROBLEM WITH THE PARK. I WILL YIELD THE FLOOR NOW MAYOR THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK I JUST WANTED TO GET BACK AND COMPENSATION BECAUSE THAT COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL TO BRING THAT UP AND WHERE WHAT THAT ALL MEANS FLORIDA'S HAVE I BELIEVE IT'S STILL IN PLACE IS 0 NET LOSS OF WETLANDS BUT THAT FOR THE ENTIRE STATE DOESN'T APPLY SPECIFICALLY TO A PARTICULAR PROJECT IS PEOPLE ARE ASKING ABOUT HOW CAN THEY FILL IN THOSE WETLANDS BECAUSE THEY HAVE THOSE 3 CHOICES. WHAT TO DO WITH I REMEMBER WHEN THE WALMART AND HOME DEPOT BUILT THAT DEVELOPER SECOND PAID SOME FARMER IN. SO FOR TO MITIGATE FOR THE WETLANDS THAT WAS THERE SO THAT'S YOU KNOW HOW HOW IT WORKS IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT SPECIFIC FOR THIS PROJECT THAT IS. IN THE POLICY A PROCESS. THE STATE DOESN'T MEAN IT'S A GOOD THING, BUT I'M JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE THAT IT'S NOT JUST BECAUSE OF THIS PROJECT THAT THERE. HANG INTO A BANK THAT USING THAT OPTION IS THAT JUST JUST WANT TO ADDRESS THAT. >> VICE MAYOR YOU'RE YOU'RE ON THERE. BUT YEAH, WITH REGARD TO THE OPEN YOU KNOW SHOULD HAVE BOTH SIDES OF THAT ISSUE AND AND I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH ACTUALLY HAPPENING STAFF AND THE APPLICANT FIND A WAY TO WORK THIS OUT IF STAFF GETS COMFORTABLE WITH THAT NUMBER BELOW THAT 5% WITH ADMINISTRATIVE KIND OF APPROVAL I I CERTAINLY WAIT TO SEE A CRITICAL SERVICE HELD UP FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME SOMETHING THAT I THINK CAN REALLY BE HANDLED BY ADMINISTRATIVE LEVEL. I THINK THEY HAVE. CERTAINLY IRELAND COMPETENCE TO MAKE THOSE DECISION SENTENCING COMMISSION THIS COMMISSION OR ANY FUTURE COMMISSION QUITE FRANKLY WHEN IT COMES TO DETERMINING HOW MUCH OPEN SPACE ON PARTICULAR PROPERTIES VERY UNIQUE DEVELOPMENT, SPECIAL AND DIFFERENT FROM PRETTY MUCH ANYTHING ELSE I DON'T I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY WE SHOULD YOU KNOW, PULLED SOME AS MISTER BOWEN SAYS ARBITRARY NUMBER 5% THAT MAY DO NOTHING MORE THAN YOU KNOW THE WAY SOMETHING THAT COULD VERY WELL SAY SOMEBODY LIKE SO YOU KNOW I THINK STAFF CAN WORK THIS OUT. AND THEN THE APPLICANT. >> MUCH DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ASK ARE AT. COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. >> YEAH, WHENEVER THE CONVERSATION IS YOU HAVE JUST TURN OUR ATTENTIONS. >> I'M SO WE'RE MOVING TO CLOSING ARGUMENTS BY STAFF. >> THIS IS A WONDERFUL PROJECT FOR THE CITY WE LIKE TO STATE FOR THE RECORD IT'S TAP AND SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PROJECT HOWEVER, FOLLOWING BASIC PLANNING PRACTICES. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT. COMPLIANCE. >> WITH >> REGULATIONS SET STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. STAFF WOULD LIKE IF IT'S COMMISSION DIRECTION REGARDING THE OPEN SPACE TO COME UP WITH THE NUMBER IT WAS A GRAY I BELIEVE IT WAS ONE 0.5% TO 5%. WITH THE STAFF REVIEW THAT IT DOESN'T GO UNDER THAT MINIMUM STAFF IS AMENABLE TO THAT WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS ON THE RECORD. BUT WE DO NEED COMMISSION DIRECTION. SO THAT WAY IT CAN BE PUT IN THE PATTERN PLAN. >> AND NOT DOCUMENT EACH STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL AND I THINK THE COMMISSION FOR THEIR TIME. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. OPPOSING ARGUMENTS BY THE APPLICANT. >> BE WE WE DO AS FAR AS THE OPEN SPACE IS VERY GOOD DISCUSSION. I'M HEARING FROM BOTH YOU ALL YOUR QUESTIONS HERE FROM STAFF. AND THAT'S AS WELL. IT AGAIN IT'S THE IT'S THE WILL OF THE COMMISSION WILL BE TO HAVE THE MECHANISM OF THE 5% TO ONE 0.5% WITH STAFF'S ABILITY TO ADMINISTRATIVE REALLY PROVE. CAN LIVE WITH THAT. WE ALSO CAN LIVE WITH WORKING WITH STAFF BETWEEN NOW IN SECOND READING TO TRY TO SEE IF THERE MIGHT EVEN BE HARD SMALLER NUMBER THAN 5 THAT WE CAN AGREE UPON BUT I'LL LET YOU ALL MAKE YOUR DECISION HOW YOU WANT TO DECIDE ON MAKING THIS MOTION HERE. BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. >> I'M GOING TO CLOSE. >> THIS PORTION OF PUBLIC HEARING AND LOOK OR MOTIONS OR MOTION. MAKE A MOTION. A TRY. >> MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE STAFF AMEND FIGURE 3.3 8. IN THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS CHURCH TO HAVE OPEN SPACE P 5. >> ACRES AID ASKED STRICT. TO ALLOW ADMINISTRATIVE AUTHORITY. TWEEN AND SO HE'S COMMISSIONER 5% I THINK MORE THAN 80% ONE IF I'M SORRY I APOLOGIZE FI THE KURDS. THIS IS DONE BY CORRECT. PERCENTAGE WELL. >> WELL, I'M SORRY AGAIN FOR THE FOR THE RECORD JACKSON FOR APPLICANT. >> WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT PERCENTAGE BUT YOU'RE CORRECT COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL AS FAR AS THE TABLES DONE NATURE'S SO THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT PERCENTAGE AND SO 5% IS NOT 5. >> HE 5% IS ONE 0.5 ACRE CORRECT. YES, I'M GOING ACRES HERE OK. OKAY I'M GOING OVER AT >> I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE STAFF AMEND FIGURE THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS CHURCH. >> TO REQUIRE PUBLIC INSTITUTIONAL USE HAVE A 5 ACRE. AND THEN ASKED STRICT TO GIVE THEM THE AUTHORITY 2 ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVE ANYTHING BETWEEN THE 1.5 ACRES AND 5 ACRES TO BE ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED ANYTHING LESS THAN THE 5 ACRE I'M SORRY LESS THAN THE 1.5 ACRES COME BACK TO COMMISSION FOR AMEND IT. OKAY NOW. >> UNTIL I HEAR THE SINGER STOPPED I'VE THERE AND IF YOU COULD REPEAT THAT. >> CLARK. MAYBE THAT'S A DIRECT STAFF TO AMEND FIGURE IN THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS CHART TO HAVE OPEN SPACE BE 5 ACRES WITH AN ASTERIX STRICT TO ALLOW ADMIN AUTHORITY. TO ALLOW AUTHORITY TO ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVE ANYTHING BETWEEN 1.5 5 ACRES. WITH ANYTHING LESS THAN 5 ACRES COMING COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL. WE HAVE TO SLOW DOWN IF YOU WANT TO RUN DIFFERENT. >> SO THERE IS A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL LOOKING FOR A SECOND. I MEAN I'LL SECOND I DON'T THINK SHE HAS A CLEAR SO WE HAVE TO WE HAVE TO START OVER. SO BECAUSE YOU CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AND THIS I'M SORRY YOU CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. I'M GOING TO HAVE TO ASK AND MAKE A MOTION TO REOPEN THE HEARING TO ASK A QUESTION OF SO MY MOTION IS TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING SO I CAN ASK STAFF A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION THAT CAN. >> ALL RIGHT WE HAVE A MOTION TO REOPEN PUBLIC BY BELL AND SECOND I'M LIKE SHIRLINGTON VOTE ON THAT VICE THERE'S YES, I'M YES, COMMISSIONER YES ALL RIGHT GO. AHEAD COMMISSIONER ALL RIGHT. 5 ACRES. >> WITH A 1.5 TO 5 ACRE. APPROVAL AUTHORITY FOR STAFF. >> ANYTHING LESS THAN 1.5 ACRES WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK FOR COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL. >> I SEE EVERYTHING KIND LIKE I'M SPEAKING ENGLISH. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S UNDERSTOOD WHAT THE INTENT IS HERE. >> THAT PERCENTAGE OF 20. I WANT ALL KIDDING ASIDE ABOUT MINUTES HIGH SCHOOL MATH, WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE 27 POINT 7 ACRES. IF 5 ACRES REQUIRED TO BE >> THAT'S 6 ISN'T THAT CLOSE TO A 6 -20. >> 80% 1.5%. ONE 0.5% YEARS OF 20 SAYS MORE MY >> NO >> 27.7 ACRES. THIS IS WHERE TRYING TO STAY OUT OF THAT. YOU TO MY NATION WANT TO MAKE SURE I ARBITRARILY PICK NUMBER THAT'S GOING TO US ALL RIGHT AND SOLDIERS. MY QUESTION. >> STAFF ON THIS CHART, THE FIRST 2 COLUMNS ARE DONE BY ACRES. IF WE WERE TO GO IN THE 3RD COLUMN, WHICH IS PUBLIC CAN WE CHANGE IT TO PERCENTAGE AND JUST CHANGE. >> THE HEAVY SO THAT IT ACRES SLASH PERCENT DEPENDING ON. >> WHAT IS BEING USED ON THE CHART SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE MAKES YEARS TO 32 YEARS. MAKES PRESIDENTIAL TO 48 YEARS AND THEN 5% TO PUBLIC. COULD THAT BE DONE. >> SO THIS CHART COLUMN IT WOULD BE DEDICATED TO THE U.S. MH PROPERTY. AND YOU CAN. DO THE FIRST PITCH. HAVE PARENT WEEK WE CAN. YOU KNOW WHAT DO SOME MATH. HERE WITH ME GUYS, I'M DOING SOME MATH. >> YEAH, I MEAN THANK YOU ELAINE OR A DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FOR THE RECORD I HAVE SWORN. THIS IS GETTING REALLY COMPLICATED FROM STAFF ON THIS TRAIT OF SIDE WE HAVE CONCERNS WITH. STAFF DOING AN ADMINISTRATIVE WAIVER WITH NO CRITERIA FOR DETERMINING WHAT THE BASIS IS FOR THAT. FOR WAIVER. AND IT WOULD BE MUCH CLEANER STAFF AND THE APPLICANT. >> TO SIMPLY STATE THIS IS THIS IS THE FLOOR THIS IS THE MINIMUM AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE. >> AND IF THAT 0, 0, >> STAFF WE WOULD NOT RECOMMEND 0 SIMPLY PLANNING PLANNING IT IS A POLICY ISSUE THAT IS THE PURVIEW OF THE COMMISSION AND WE WILL ABIDE BY WHATEVER YOU YOU DEEM APPROPRIATE, BUT WE WOULD ASK THAT IT NOT BE COMPLICATED BY HAVING STAFF TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT CRITERIA TO USE TO BASED ON. >> I MAKE A MOTION MAYOR, THANK YOU WE CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. BELIEVE THAT WILL BE HEARD THAT. YES I THANK YOU THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR FOR THE RECORD JEFFREY BEEN. I JUST CHECKED WITH THE HOSPITAL FOLKS AND THEY SAID IT WAS ALL RIGHT FOR ME TO MAKE THE STATEMENT I THINK THIS IS WHERE EVERYBODY NEEDS TO HEAR THIS AND UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OKAY, THIS IS NOT DEVELOP OR THIS IS SARASOTA MEMORIAL HOSPITAL. LARGE ENOUGH PART OF THIS PROPERTY. >> IS SET ASIDE AS DEVELOPABLE WITHOUT SOME FUTURE APPROVAL OF A DIFFERENT COMMISSION. THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING SARASOTA MEMORIAL HOSPITAL BOARD. WE'VE HAD TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION BEFORE THEY INVEST MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN THE SITE BECAUSE ONCE THEY START THE FIRST IN THE FIRST PHASE GOING TO BE PLENTY SPACE. BUT TO INVEST IN AMES AND MANTA DOLLARS COMING OUT OF THE GATE. WHICH MAKES TO THE SITE KNOWING THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF LAND THAT MAY NOT EVER BE ABLE TO BE DEVELOPED THAT COULD. ROADBLOCK. FOR A HOSPITAL COMING TO THE SIDE. HOWEVER THERE'S A NEED TO PAY AROUND IT'S THE AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE 5% IN ACRE AND A HALF WRAP ROUND IF IT'S A SMALL SMALL NUMBER LIKE THAT. FOR AN ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL TO GO BELOW THAT. DOESN'T TOTAL. THAT THAT WOULD MAKE THAT WOULD BE MORE COMFORTABLE FOR THE HOSPITAL AT 5% AND A HALF. ACTUALLY LESS THAN IT'S NOT 0 BUT AND A HALF WITH THE ABILITY FOR ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL BECAUSE THE MINISTRY PEOPLE TAKES THE THE LAYOUT BUT IT DOES ALLOW FOR SOMEBODY IN THE CITY TO HAVE A SAYING YES OR IF THEY WOULD SAY NO WHEN THE ADMINISTRATION APPROVAL ALWAYS THE WAY THAT WORKS THAT CAN ALWAYS BE BROUGHT TO THIS FUTURE COMMISSION. >> FOR FOR IF IT'S STAFF'S IT. PLEASE DON'T THROW JUST THANK YOU. >> I THANK CITY TURNED WE OPEN PUBLIC HEARING WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE TABLE THAT WE HAVE TO VOTE FOR THAT GET A SECOND BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A SHOW YOU THAT SORRY BUT VICE MAYOR OKAY. >> ALL RIGHT DO WE HAVE TO HAVE A MOTION TO REOPEN TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC EYE JUST CLOSE DON'T YOU CAN JUST SAY YEAH I WANT TO VERIFY THAT NO ONE HAS ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OKAY AND I MAY HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTION. I'M SURE OF CLOSE >> DIRECTOR DEVELOPMENT EXPRESSED SOME CONCERN ABOUT HAVING ADMINISTRATIVE AUTHORITY ON THE PART OF STAFF WITH SOME STRUCTURE. OUR REQUIREMENTS. WHAT IS THE REASON BALL. THAT BY SECOND READING. STAFF COME WITH. SO THOSE GUIDELINES, WHAT THE. HOPEFULLY THEY'LL NEED BE CONCERN THAT SOUNDS LIKE THE HOSPITAL WOULD BE OK WITH WAY WHAT WOULD AWAY YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT THAT LAST VOTE GUIDELINES WE WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT THE CURRENTLY ADOPTED. >> ORDINANCES RELATED TO THE DPP SEE WHAT IS IN THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO UTILIZE. COULD DO THAT BEFORE. SECOND READING. AND WE WOULD ALSO NEED TO ENSURE THAT WHATEVER WE COME UP IS ACCEPTABLE TO SO TAKES A LITTLE WE HAVEN'T. SHORT IT'S VERY STRICT. >> IT SOUNDS LIKE THOUGH THERE'S A LOT OF MOTIVATION TO KIND OF GET THIS NOW WE'D LIKE TO GET IN DAY OUT WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO GET THIS NOW I. I DO WORRY PROBABLY NOT A TIME FOR MUCH BACK AND FORTH THE RESEARCH BECAUSE OF OUR SHORT TO GET TO THEIR OWN VERY TIGHT TIMELINE WITH THEIR BOARD AND WE HAVE ONLY PUSH TO GET THESE ON YOUR AGENDA BEFORE WE BREAK. SO I AM CONCERNED THAT WE MIGHT NOT TIME TO TURN I WOULD I. I THINK. >> AND WE SAID THIS I SAID THIS PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT THIS SITE IS GOING TO HAVE SOME OPEN SPACE THERE IS SIMPLY NO WAY TO DEVELOP THE SITE AND NOT HAVE ANY OPEN SPACE AT ALL. SO IF. >> THE. >> COMMISSION. OVER ABUNDANCE CAUTION TOO. ENSURE DEVELOPMENT IS ABLE TO COME FORWARD DEVELOP. TO ITS FULLEST POTENTIAL THOSE 0 WELL IT'S NOT NECESSARILY GOOD PLANNING PRACTICE. IT IS ALSO ♪ A CLEAN. ONE ACRE IF IT'S HAVE WHATEVER IT >> WE MUCH PREFER AND NUMBER ♪ >> HARD NUMBER RATHER >> LEANING IT IN BIG US WELL I THINK I HEARD IN THE CONVERSATION 2 AND A HALF. >> PERCENT ACCEPT OF ALL I DON'T WANT TO HOLD THIS THING UP WE NEED TO OFFENSE PROJECT ALONG BUT I GUESS I'M LOOKING MISTER BONE TO WEIGH IN ON THAT FLOOR. 2 AND A HALF PERCENT THAT FOR A WITH YES AND THEN JASPER HERE >> WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT AS FAR AS THAT TO HAVE BE MORE THAN 5. RE YOU KNOW TIMING IS PRETTY CLEAR WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE BUT THERE IS BETWEEN NOW AND AUGUST 6 THERE'S ANYTHING WE NEED TO DO ARE CONFIDENT WE CAN WORK WITH IN THE SAME WAY WE WORKED ALL THE WAY UP TO TODAY. >> ANYTHING ELSE AND SOME OF THOSE IS A PUBLIC HEARING AGAIN OF MAKE MOTION COMMISSIONER ALEX MAKE A MOTION. >> SO REOPENING THAT HAVING THE ADDITIONAL MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE END. >> PRIOR TO SECOND READING. FIGURE THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS TO REFLECT PUBLIC INSTITUTIONAL USES FOR OPEN SPACE TO CORE POINT OF 3 QUARTERS OF ACRE. ACRES. SECOND EXPLAIN HOW MUCH OF SECOND. THAT IS EXACTLY 3%. JUST 3%. 7, YEARS. WITHIN >> SO WHAT THINK THAT'S REMEMBER THAT'S WHAT. >> THE APPLICANT IS COMFORTABLE WITH. I THINK FROM A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT, ♪ IT'S GOING TO ♪ END UP BEING MORE THAN THAT ANYWAY SO I THINK WE'RE JUST. ARBITRARY CONVERSATION ABOUT SOMETHING THAT. NONE OF US REALLY HAVE HAVE A GRASP THIS IS JUST ROUND IT AROUND AND AROUND 2 AND A HALF PERCENT WORDS FOR THE APPLICANT I SEE NO PROBLEM WITH YOU KNOW EVERY PROPERTY DEVELOP BEAUTIFUL WITH LANDSCAPING SOME OPEN SPACE IF YOU KNOW THIS SO WASTE OF OUR TIME QUITE FRANKLY IN MY OPINION. 2 AND A HALF PERCENT IS GOOD NUMBER THAT'S WHAT I WOULD VOTE FOR SUPPORT MORE THAN THAT. >> OKAY, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE MOTION MAKER THAT YOU STAY IN THE MOTION TERMS CHRISTIANS IS AND WHY IT NOT JUST GETTING A PERCENTAGE NUMBER OUT THERE. HE HAS THE REST OF THE CHARGES AT THAT'S WHY I YOU KNOW I JUST ROUNDED UP TO 3 QUARTERS OF AN ACRE BECAUSE 2 AND A HALF PERCENTAGE 0.7 ACRES >> SO I JUST ROUNDED UP TO 3 QUARTERS OF ACCIDENT AND THEN THE NEXT QUESTION FROM A SHERRY THEN EVERYTHING OF GAS FOR HENRY QUESTIONS OF HIS CLOSE BECAUSE EVERYTHING ELSE WAS TERMS OF PERCENTAGES UP UNTIL POINT I JUST WANT >> AND A HALF PERCENT LET STAFF OF THE APPLICANT DO THE MATH OK >> ALL OKAY, SO THERE'S OUR MOTION CAN WE READ WAS KNOCKED OUT A WAY TO WIN >> INSTRUCT STAFF TO AMEND FIGURE 3.3 8. WHICH IS THE VILLAGE STANDARDS. PUBLIC INSTITUTIONAL USE. OPEN SPACE TO 7. A CURSE. JUST QUARTERS OF AN ACRE. 3%. >> OKAY THAT WAS THE MOTION THAT WAS SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR. SHOULD HAVE ANYTHING ELSE. OK SO WE'RE GOING TO DO A VOICE. WELL ON THAT VICE MAYOR. MAYER IS A NO LANGDON NO. I'M A YES. COMMISSIONER AVERAGE. >> NO. ANOTHER MOTION. >> MAYOR DID YOU SAY WHAT YOU WILL. AND I SAY TO MYSELF >> YOU TELL US THAT MIKE SUGAR TRAFFIC, A YES OR NO. I MAKE ANOTHER MOTION GO HAT. TO HAVE STAFF. AND FIGURE 3.3 A. >> WHICH IS THE PUBLIC INSTITUTIONAL USES CHART. FOR OPEN SPACE. TO >> NO MORE 2.5. PERCENT. LEFT NO NOTE NO LESS THAN 2.5%. THANK YOU. I'LL SECOND THAT. >> OK SO WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WITH A SLIGHT CHANGE BUT THE CITY. >> WITH THAT BACK. TO DIRECT STAFF TO AMEND. FIGURE PUBLIC INSTITUTIONAL USES ART FOR OPEN SPACE TO NO LESS THAN 2.5% AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON. >> MOTION MAKER YOU GOOD THAT. >> I LIKE TO JUST REITERATE STAFF IS GOING TO HAVE TO ADJUST THE TABLE TO REFLECT ACREAGE PERCENTAGE THAT SO IT'S NOTHING FURTHER. WE'LL DO A VOICE. >> VICE MAYOR VICE MAYOR G S MAYOR THE A LINE SAY YES, DALLAS, RICH. YES, OKAY, SO THAT MOTION ASA'S OTHER ANY OTHER YEAH WE HAVE TO GRANT APPROVAL WAIVERS I GUESS GET OUT HERE, YEAH. I MAKE A MOTION. >> 2. >> ALLOW A WAIVER FOR SIGNAGE. >> OCEAN WE GOT TO DO MORE THAN THAT I SECOND IT. >> ALL RIGHT SO WE HAVE A WAIVER MOTION MADE BY NOW OR A WAIVER FOR THE SIGNAGE REGARDING THE SIGNAGE AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR STOVES ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT. WITH A VICE MAYOR VICE MAYOR IS AIRS. LANGDON SAY YES IT COMMISSIONER AVERAGE. YES ALL RIGHT SO THAT PASSES 5 TO 0 AND THEN WE HAD ANOTHER ONE MAKE THE MOTION. >> SHOULD APPROVE THE WAIVER OF THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS TO BE DETERMINED MAS STAGE. >> WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL REGARDING WAIVER FOR PARKING TO BE DETERMINED AT >> AND A S STAGE WHICH STANDS FOR. IT'S A STAGE THAT'S JUST THE PHRASE CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT ITS EXACT STANDS FOR I DON'T WANT TO PUT SOMETHING INACCURATE IN THE RECORD EVERY IT'S I THINK ADMINISTRATIVE SITE REVIEW OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND THAT WAS ANY BY VICE MAYOR OKAY, ANYTHING FURTHER. WE WILL VOTE VICE MAYOR YES, MAYOR ZS LINES AND SAY YES MCDOWELL, COMMISSIONER AVERAGE. >> YES OKAY. >> I DON'T BELIEVE >> ICE. DON'T THINK THE COMMISSION NEEDS TO WEIGH THINK THE THAT'S JUST DETERMINED ALREADY SO I MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE OR THE 2, 0, 2, DASH 2, 6, EMOTIONS ALREADY GIVEN TO BE CAPTURED. WE'RE SECOND READING TO BE HELD AUGUST WILL SECOND >> ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL TO CONTINUE THIS ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 20 SEP 6, 2, 2ND READING WITH ALL OF THE MOTIONS. ACTUALLY ALL THE MOTIONS THAT WERE MADE SECOND READING TO BE ON AUGUST 6 2024 AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR WE WILL DO A LITTLE VOTE. SPACEY ASKED MAYOR ZS LINE DIDN'T SAY YES DAHLIAS COMMISSIONER AVERAGE. YES ALL RIGHT SO THAT PASSES 5 TO 0. WITH THAT. NOTHING COMMISSIONER THAT WANT TO THANK YOU FOR DOING THE HEAVY LIFTING ON CREATE WAS A ALL RIGHT IT. 5% 5 ACRES THAT ALL WE'RE GOING OUR LUNCH BREAK RIGHT OKAY SO ONE WHAT 45 MINUTES PROBABLY ASKED CLOSE THE MASK, OKAY, OKAY. SO ABOUT 45 MINUTES WHICH IS ONE IS SAYING ONE >> I LIKE HELP EVERYBODY WAS ABLE TO GET SOMETHING TO EAT AND. >> REALLY THERE. WE ARE CONTINUING. WITH COMMISSION MEETING ON IN SECOND READINGS ITEM NUMBER 2024 DASH 0, 7, THINK CAN YOU READ THIS BY TITLE ONLY. >> ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 20 FOR NEXT YEAR IS THAT ORDINANCE OF THE CITY IN NORTH PORT FLORIDA CALLING FOR A REFERENDUM QUESTION TO REPLACE THE FOR THE QUALIFIERS LESTER'S OF THE CITY OF NORTH PORT, FL AT THE NOVEMBER, 5 2024 GENERAL ELECTION, PROVIDING A REFERENDUM QUESTION DETERMINING WHETHER TO AMEND THE CITY CHARTER TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY COMMISSION TO ISSUE DEBT AND STAND SAYS WITHOUT PRIOR APPROVAL, PROVIDING FOR THE FULL TEXT OF THE PROPOSED CHARTER AMENDMENT PROVIDING FINDINGS PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE FOR THE NEW CHARTER LANGUAGE IF THE PROPOSED CHARTER AMENDMENT IS A PERFECT PROVIDING FOR THE FILING OF THE ORDINANCE WITH THE SARASOTA COUNTY SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS. HAVE A PATIENT OF THE TEXT OF THE PROPOSED CHARTER AMENDMENT PROVIDING FOR FILING WITH FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF STATE OF CHARTER AMENDMENT IS BY THE CONFLICT PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> OKAY WE GO ANY FURTHER I WANT TO ADDRESS COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER, EMRICH ARE YOU THERE. YES, MA'AM. >> DID YOURSELF WHEN YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING I I KNOW >> I IT'S THAT NOISE WE HEAR THE LITTLE BALL BY THE WAY. BUT IT'S VOICE THAT IT'S HOT. IT'S REALLY NOW TRACK YEAH I I NORMALLY DO THAT I NORMALLY DO SOMETIMES LOVED IN ON BY. >> I JUST HAD TO OUT REPORT BACK IN LOBBIES BACK FROM LAUNCH. >> I WILL BE SURE PULL YOU INTO THE CONVERSATION DON'T WORRY AND IF I FORGET I KNOW THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE HERE WOULD BE GUESS IS THAT WE'RE GOOD. I THANK CITY MANAGER THIS IS YOUR ITEM. >> THANK YOU MADAM REGULAR LAST 3, 3, 4, THAT TO THE FOLLOWING MOTIONS TO DIRECT THE CITY ATTORNEY TO WORK ON COUNCIL TO PROVIDE CLARITY REGARDING THAT'S PULLING THAT MS. AND OBLIGATION MEANING AND PURPOSE. ALSO TO ADELAIDE YOUR GUITAR SECOND READING STATING THAT GENERAL OBLIGATION THAT WILL GO TO VOTERS. I BELIEVE THOSE ITEMS HAVE BEEN ADJUSTED IN THE ORDER IS THAT WAS REFLECTED SUMMIT WITH THIS DOCUMENT WE ASK THAT YOU CONTINUE ORDINANCE 24 0, 7 2ND READING. CAN YOU PROVE IT. WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR NUMBER. >> SO A RIGHT TO QUESTION AGAIN IT WOULD KEEP THEM TO A 5 MINUTE GO THROUGH IT. YOU WILL BE ABLE QUESTIONS BUT JUST SO THAT EVERYBODY CHANCE BEFORE WE START FADING AWAY. UP I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, IT'S ART. COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. >> YEAH, THE ONLY THING I'M THE ONLY QUESTION AND THEN I HAVE A COMMENT IS UNDER TO BE TOO LITTLE IT HAS SORRY AND ONE SINGLE LIGHT IT SAYS THAT CITY SHALL NOT AVOID THESE REQUIREMENTS IN THIS SECTION BY SEPARATE IN SINGLE AND SIMON TEENY US PROJECT. >> BUT THAT LANGUAGE IS MISSING FROM TOO. WHERE THE 2 LITTLE EYES ARE AND I THINK I REMEMBER BRINGING THIS UP AT THE LAST MEETING BY NOT HAVING BEEN IN BOTH PLACES IT APPEARS THAT IT ONLY IS PRIOR TO OCTOBER FIRST 25. AFTER THAT BECAUSE THAT LANGUAGE IS NOT THERE GIVES THE APPEARANCE THAT WE ARE NOT THAT WE WILL ALLOW FACING PATCH. SO I REALLY AND SORRY TO BE THAT YEAH TO ME I'M. IT'S ON PAGE 3. YOU LOOK AT IT BE THE VERY LAST SENTENCE, YEAH. VERY LAST SENTENCE IS ONLY UNDER PRIOR TO OCTOBER 1ST. BUT IT IS NOT UNDER. >> THE. >> 2 LITTLE ICE. WHICH IS AFTER OCTOBER 1ST. SO >> I BELIEVE IT NEEDS TO BE UNDER THERE, BUT THIS WILL BE A COMMISSION DIST DISCUSSION AND DECISION. I JUST WANTED TO GIVE THE APPEARANCE OF. >> POLLS. PRIOR TO OCTOBER 1ST AND AFTER OCTOBER 1ST. >> AND THEN I HAVE COMMENTS. >> WANT TO WEIGH IN YEAH. >> I'M TRYING TO ABSORB THIS HERE. >> COMMENT A LITTLE DOUBLE I BEGINNING OCTOBER FIRST REALLY ADDRESSING SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT. SO I WONDER. IF JUST AMENDING. I ARE REMOVING THE PRIOR TO THE INDEBTEDNESS INCURRED BECAUSE I THINK THE INTENTION IS THAT WAY WE WON'T SPLIT UP PROJECTS IN ORDER TO COME UNDER THE CAP. I THINK BELONGS AND I THINK. >> YES, HELPS. AND WITH THAT SATISFIED. THE CONCERN. WHAT IF WE JUST MOVED THAT CENTER NEEDS READ THE SITATION NOT AVOID REQUIREMENTS SECTION BY SUFFERING DO THINGS DIFFERENT PROJECT. INTO ITS OWN LITTLE SUBSECTION. >> IT'S EXACTLY WHAT I JUST AFTER THE CONVERSATION LIKE THAT. >> ALL RIGHT THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD COMPROMISE. THERE. >> MAKES SENSE. >> MOTION TOM I'M THE ONLY OTHER THING AS A COMMENT. >> I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TOO LATE, BUT WE ARE SECOND READING AND WE CAN MAKE CHANGES AS WE JUST DID ARE WE WILL BE HINDSIGHT IS A FANTASTIC TEACHER. AND IF I HAD BEEN THINKING AHEAD WITHOUT TIME SITES BENEFIT. I WOULD HAVE REQUESTED TO SEPARATE REFERENDUMS. AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS ONE REFERENDUM FOR EMERGENCIES. TO MY FRIEND SECOND REFERENDUM FOR NON-EMERGENCY PROJECTS BECAUSE I'M GETTING A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM CITIZENS THAT THEY'RE SAYING YES, WE ARE 100% ON BOARD WITH THE EMERGENCY ORDINANCE. >> THE EMERGENCY POWER TO ISSUE DEBT. BUT THEY'RE REALLY ON THE FENCE OR COMPLETELY AGAINST. THE NON-EMERGENCY PROJECTS. SO I JUST. AGAIN I'M NOT SURE IF WE CAN. IF THERE'S MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS ARE MUTABLE TAKING OUT. 2 ENTIRELY AND GOING BACK TO ANOTHER REFERENDUM LIKE FOR MONTHS OR 6 MONTHS. THIS WAY WE HAVE PLENTY OF TIME OF GETTING OUR DEBT MANAGEMENT POLICY DOWN PAT AND THEN WE CAN GO BACK TO THE VOTERS FOR THE NON EMERGENCY PART OF THE PROJECT. I'VE SAID ALL THE GOAL IS TO TRY AND GET IT TO PASS. WITH THE COMFORT OF OUR CITIZENS. AND THE ONES THAT I'M HEARING FROM OUR TELLING ME THAT YES FOR THE EMERGENCIES, SO MUCH ON THE NON EMERGENCIES. SO I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE. AND I YIELD I'LL MAKE A MOTION WERE TOO BASED ON CONVERSATION. VICE MAYOR. IT'S FUNNY. WHAT IS GOING TO HAVE PROBLEM. WHEN THERE'S AN EMERGENCY. >> OR FAILED INFRASTRUCTURE. >> WE GET THAT AND AND AND THAT IS PRETTY EASY TASK FORCE INNOCENCE. I THINK EVERYBODY. >> WE COULD WRAP THEIR HEADS AROUND IT AND I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER BUT HE ASKS. HOWEVER. THE ISSUES BEFORE ARE BIGGER THAN THAT AND. AND WHAT IT ON EMERGENCY NOW CAN BECOME. WE HAVE 64 I BELIEVE WATER STRUCTURES THAT ARE WELL BEYOND THERE FOR WHITES. WE HAVE BRIDGES. WE HAVE ROADS WE HAVE UTILITY ISSUES ALL OF WHICH ARE. I CONSIDER TO BE VERY VERY SERIOUS ISSUES THAT THIS CITY NEEDS TO ADDRESS PRICE BOULEVARD IS A SHINING EXAMPLE, WHAT CAN HAPPEN. WHEN COMMISSIONS AND CITY LEADERSHIP KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD AND DON'T DO THEIR JOB SO WAY THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO. AND I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT HAPPEN AGAIN THE ABILITY TO BORROW IT'S A TOOL. WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT BUILDING A POLICE HEADQUARTERS WITH THIS MONEY. WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT BUILDING. POLITICS ENTER WITH IT. OKAY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT ESSENTIAL TO OUR CITY AND AND THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE THOSE BASIC SERVICES WE'VE ALL BECOME ACCUSTOMED GOOD ROADS. WATER AND SEWER. RIDGES WATER STRUCTURES THAT FUNCTION PROPERLY. I MEAN WE LIVE IN A SWAMP FOR GOD SAKES WE HAVE SO MUCH THAT WE HAVE TO DO TO CATCH UP WITH THE YEARS OF NEGLECT AND KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD TO ME THESE ARE ESSENTIAL PROJECTS AND JUST HAVE TO GO BACK OUT TO REFERENDUM FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM. IS IS IS NOT A REASONABLE FIT. I JUST DON'T SEE IT I THINK THAT THE CITIZENS AND AND WELL. IT'S A IT THIS WAY I THINK COMMISSIONERS AND I THINK STAFF IN EVERY WAY WE CAN. ITS UK POPULATION. DISCUSS IT. POINT HOW VALUABLE HOW IMPORTANT THIS AND I THINK WE GO TO REFERENDUM. AND WE ASKED PEOPLE TO GIVE US THIS BORROWING AUTHORITY. IF THE CITIZENS TURN IT DOWN. GOING TO COME BACK AGAIN AND AGAIN OR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME OUT WITH MULTIPLE REFERENDUMS EVERY SINGLE YEAR AT SIGNIFICANT COST FOR TAXPAYERS BECAUSE WE CANNOT NOT TO THESE PROJECTS. THESE PROJECTS HAVE TO GET GOING THEY CAN'T GET DONE 5 YEARS FROM NOW 10 YEARS FROM NOW YOU NEED TO GET DONE NEED TO GET STARTED. >> AND SO I SEE HIM EVERY BIT AS CRITICAL AND THEN AN EMERGENCY AS A FAILED INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT I REALLY DO BELIEVE THAT AND I THINK IT'S TIME FOR OUR CITIZENS. JUST TO COME MAKE THAT DECISION AND AND THEY'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH IT AND THEY WILL KNOW. THEN WE'LL HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO GO OUT FOR A REFERENDUM AND IF THINGS FAIL. AND IT TAKES 6, 9.12 MONTHS TO GET PERMISSION TO FIX SOMETHING. IT'S IT'S GOING TO ALLOW BELL. OUR CITIZENS MINDS THAT THIS IS THE REPERCUSSIONS OF NOT BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE TOOLS ESSENTIAL TO RUN A CITY OUR SIZE AND YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S JUST HOW I FEEL I'M ALL IN ON THIS I THINK WE HAVE GONE. REALLY. IT WE'VE REALLY TRIED EVERY WHICH WAY TO MAKE THE SEX LAVATORY TO NOT MAKE IT FRIVOLOUS TO 2 TO 7 OR 8 AND EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MONEY WOULD BE USED FOR THIS IS NOT >> TAX DOLLAR MONEY ARE DEPARTMENTS NOW OR DISTRICTS NOW USED THESE DOLLARS. >> FOR THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS BUT THEY CAN'T LEVERAGE. SO THEY ONLY CAN DO WHAT THEY'VE GOT THE CAPTION AND TO DO THEY LOSE OUT ALL KINDS OF OPPORTUNITIES. TO GET MATCHING FUNDS WHICH IN SOME CASES GET FORGIVEN. THERE ARE JUST SO MANY BENEFITS TO THE CITIZENS OF OUR CITY AND ALLOWING THIS TO HAPPEN AND AND IT'S INCUMBENT UPON THEM TO SPEND THE TIME IN THE NEXT 4 MONTHS TO UNDERSTAND THOSE BECAUSE WITHOUT DISABILITY IT IS GOING TO COST OUR TAXPAYERS MORE IT WILL COST THE SCHOOL MORE MONEY AND WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING UNREASONABLE YEAR EXCEPT THEY HAVE THE SAME TOOLS THAT EVERYBODY ELSE AND SO WE CAN MORE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE THAT'S WHAT CITIZENS OF ALWAYS ASKED US FOR TO BE IS FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE TO BE THE BEST STEWARDS OF YOUR TAX DOLLARS AS WE CAN POSSIBLY THIS TOOL IS IN REALLY IMPORTANT AND IT'S INCUMBENT UPON TO TRY K AND ALL OUR CITIZENS TO TRY WRAP THEIR HEADS AROUND OK, THANK YOU, OKAY, THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER THANK YOU MAYOR I'LL SAY BASICALLY THE SAME THING IT'S VICE MAYOR BUT IN THE LAST FEW AT AND THAT IS TO SEPARATE THESE PROJECTS. >> IS ACKNOWLEDGE OUR COMMUNIQUE. >> THAT. >> THE NON EMERGENCY PROJECTS ARE SOMEHOW FRIVOLOUS THESE ARE NOT FRIVOLOUS PROJECTS. I REALLY LOOK AT THEM. AS EMERGENCY SLASH DISASTERS WAITING TO HAPPEN. IF WE DON'T KEEP UP WITH OUR INFRASTRUCTURE WILL PAY THE WE WERE LUCKY. LUCKY AFTER THAT IT WASN'T WORSE LOT OF STRUCTURES HELD ALL I'M AMAZED THAT THEY HELD UP. SO THESE ARE VITALLY IMPORTANT EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT CLASSIFIED AS EMERGENCY AND VICE MAYOR THAT'S RIGHT THE BURDEN IS ON TO COMMUNICATE THAT TO THE PUBLIC. SO THAT PEOPLE FEEL COMFORTABLE VOTING FOR THIS REFERENDUM. AND IF FAILS WE'LL COME BACK AND AND WELCOME WELCOME BACK BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE DONE. IT JUST HAS TO BE DONE. >> OK THANK YOU DID REALLY WELL WITH THAT COMMISSIONER EMRICH. THEY GOT A SECOND ROUND. >> AND AGREE I'M HERE CAN AND C OKAY. >> I AGREE WITH MY AS WELL, THE ONLY OTHER THING IS YOU KNOW. COMMISSIONER LANGDON SAID WE CAN COME BACK WE CAN COME BACK COME BACK. THAT'S ONE SCENARIO THE OTHER SCENARIO IS THAT WE'RE IN DIRE NEED THERE WILL BE AN ADJUSTMENT WITH THE AD VALOREM TAXES, THE WORKS GOT TO GET DONE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. WE'VE GOT WE CAN GET THE LOAN IT AS A TOOL AND AND AND WITH OUR DEBT RESOURCES. WE CAN DO IT THAT WAY WITHOUT TOUCHING THAT BULL ARM. IT GOES THAT ALARM. PRETTY SIMPLE. ALL I THANK YOU. >> YES, NOT WAY AND I AND YOU ALL OF YOU PUT THE SO SO AND I AND I CAN EVER FORMULATE MY THOUGHTS A PAIR, BUT FEW THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN NOT DONE THROUGH THE YEARS AGAIN THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T KNOW WE HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE 1990 AND THERE'S THINGS THAT I KNOW WE HAVE WATER CONTROL STRUCTURES THAT IT WAS ALWAYS OUR ANNIVERSARY I'M SURE WE HAVE 45 YEAR-OLD WATER CONTROL AND JUST SAY SOMETHING FOR EMERGENCY THAT'S A REACTIVE TYPE OF A RESPONSE WAIT UNTIL THE BRIDGE WENT OUT ON PRICE I THINK IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE BEFORE THAT AND IF WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO BAR PRIOR TO THAT TO MAKE SOME TEMPORARY OR NOT Y PRICE AT THAT TIME BUT BRINGING UP PRICE. YES, I STILL REMEMBER GOING TO NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS SOME YEARS AGO MOST ICKES ON WHICH DESIGN YOU LIKED AND THEN IT JUST THERE NO MONEY TO DO THESE ARE THINGS WE HAVE TO GROWING CITY AND WE ARE REALLY AND THAT'S THE REALITY AND FOR SOMEONE BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME I FEEL YOUR PAIN BUT I ALSO KNOW THE REALITY WHEN I MOVED HERE THAT THE CITY WAS GOING TO GROW. WE HAVE TO HAVE THINGS IN PLACE THAT WE CAN KEEP UP WITH THAT GROWTH AND IT WAS IT'S BEEN MENTIONED UP HERE THAT IF A STRUCTURE FAILS AND SOMEONE IS BUT NO HOUSES THAT WERE DONE SOMETHING HAPPENS AS A RESULT OF WE DIDN'T FIX SOMETHING WHEN WE KNEW IT WAS WAS FAILING THEY'RE NOT GOING TO CARE ABOUT. IT'S A GOOD THING WE DIDN'T VOTE FOR THAT THEY'RE GOING TO WONDER WHY WE DIDN'T PUT THAT IN PLACE GOING TO SAY OUR GOVERNMENT FAILED US BECAUSE THEY KNEW THOSE STRUCTURES FAILING AND THEY DID NOTHING AND TO TRY TO FIX THEM GET TO WHERE THEY SHOULD BE. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING UP THIS IS DEFINITELY A PROACTIVE APPROACH TO GETTING THINGS AND WATER. SORRY THAT PEOPLE DISTRUST. >> THIS BOARD. WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FORM OF GOVERNMENT IN THIS COUNTRY PEOPLE ARE ELECTED TO TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT ARE IN THE BEST INTERESTS FOR PEOPLE. DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE GOING TO BE HAPPY ALL THE TIME WAS ALL OF THOSE DECISIONS BARRING FROM PRESIDENT LINCOLN YOU'RE NOT GOING MAKE ALL THE PEOPLE HAPPY ALL THE TIME. BUT WHEN TALKING ABOUT THIS IS WHAT SHOULD BE DONE. FOR THE HEALTH SAFETY AND WELFARE OF PEOPLE. THIS IS WHAT I KNOW HAS TO BE DONE. SO. ♪ THAT'S ON GOING TO SAY ♪ ABOUT THAT. COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. >> I'D LIKE TO CORRECT A COUPLE OF THINGS BECAUSE I'VE HEARD IT REPEATEDLY. AMID PRICE BOULEVARD. WE APPROVE THAT PROJECT AND THEN WE HAD TO GET THE MONEY. AND THE COMMISSION AND THAT TIME GAVE DIRECTION TO BRING FORWARD IDEAS AND SUGGESTIONS ON HOW TO PAY FOR IN A TIMELY MANNER AND THAT NEVER. PRICE BOULEVARD. WE WANT TO GET THAT DONE IN A TIMELY MANNER. WE HAVE COVID THEN UNFORTUNATELY WE MISSTEPS IN LEADERSHIP. THEN WE LEADERSHIP. AND NOW WE HAVE THE VOTERS WHO APPROVED THE REFERENDUM FOR A PRICE BOULEVARD. IT'S NOT LIKE WE FAILED. WE WANTED TO GET TO THE BEST COURSE TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR PRICE BOULEVARD. UNFORTUNATELY OTHER THINGS TOOK PRIORITY. THE COMMISSION STARTED CONVERSATION BECAUSE OF HURRICANE IAN IN THE DISASTER AND WHAT IT PRESENTED UPS. >> ALL I WAS DOING WAS SHARING WITH YOU GUYS, A CONCERN THAT THE EMERGENCY DISASTER RECOVERY IS NOW TIED INTO. INFRASTRUCTURE. EMERGENCIES AND NON EMERGENCIES. AND I'M SHARING WITH YOU WHAT I AM HEARING FROM THE CITIZENS ABOUT YES, THEY WANT TO DO THE EMERGENCY RECOVERY, ABSOLUTELY THEY SEE THE NEED. BUT THE OTHER PART IS WHERE THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT ON THE FENCE OR OUTRIGHT AGAINST. TIME WILL TELL THE COMMISSION HAS SPOKEN I AM POSITIVE THAT THIS IS GOING TO PASS TODAY AND AND THEN THE NEXT STEP IS IT GOES TO THE BORDERS AND ULTIMATELY THE VOTERS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO DECIDE. WHEN I HEAR MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS SAY JUST KEEP GOING BACK TO WHERE WE'LL JUST KEEP GOING BACK EVENTUALLY THAT'S GOING TO COME BACK AND BITE YOU TOO BECAUSE I'VE SEEN THAT WHERE LISTEN TO US WANT TO KNOW RIGHT AGAIN. SO JUST BE CAREFUL. THE WHOLE GOAL WAS TO GET THE EMERGENCY RECOVERY. APPROVED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, SO WE DID NOT HAVE OUR HANDS TIED. HOW THE REST OF THEM ALONG THE WAY. YOU KNOW PART OF THE CONVERSATION >> I HEAR ALL ABOUT NOT SEPARATING THE 2 PRIVATE THE 2 COMPONENTS EMERGENCY DISASTER RECOVERY FROM THE OTHER SECTION NUMBER 2. SO I'M NOT GOING MAKE A MOTION ON THAT, BUT IT ONE POINT MAYOR I DO WANT TO MAKE A DIFFERENT ANOTHER MOTION. >> OKAY VICE MAYOR. >> AS A POINT TO GET A CLARIFICATION YOU KNOW THEY THE COST COMING BACK AND MAYBE I COULD ARTICULATE IT. MY POSITION A LITTLE CLEAR. IF THE REFERENDUM DOESN'T PASS NOVEMBER. WELL FORESEE HAPPENING. THIS COMING SESSION. THIS 25 THE SCHOOL YEAR WILL BE MULTIPLE REFERENDUMS FOR SPECIFIC INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS. THAT ARE ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL TO THE CITY. THAT PROCESS WILL COST A LOT OF MONEY. IT WILL TAKE UP IN NORMAL AMOUNT OF TIME ON THE PART STAFF AND COMMISSION. AND THE CITIZENS TO FOLLOW EACH OF THESE MULTIPLE REFERENDUMS OVER THE PURPOSE OF DOING THE EXACT SAME PROJECTS THAT WOULD BE DONE IF THIS REFERENDUM GETS PAST. SO THAT'S WHAT I MEAN I I COMING BACK AGAIN AND AGAIN. WE WOULD NOT BE RESPONSIBLE TO OUR CITIZENS. IF WE DID NOT FINALLY LIKE DOUBLE IT AND START TO ADDRESS INFRASTRUCTURE. PROBLEMS. THIS COUNTRY HAS OVER 2. BILLION OR TRILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF INFRASTRUCTURE THE NATION THAT IS BEHIND THE 8 IN THE CITY OF NORTH PORT WHERE 65 YEAR OLD CITY. IT HASN'T DONE ANYTHING TO IMPROVE ITS INFRASTRUCTURE. WE HAVE SOME SO UNDER WATER SO TO SPEAK. IF WE DON'T ADDRESS THESE THERE JUST TO SEE MISTRESS WAITING TO HAPPEN. FOR MORE STORMS MORE AND MORE MONEY. MORE AND MORE PROBLEMS SO ONE WAY OR THE OTHER WE HAVE TO DO THEM. I SAY TO THEM AS PART OF A COMPREHENSIVE BORROWING PROGRAM AS OPPOSED TO HAVING GO OUT ASK 2, 3 TIMES EVERY SINGLE YEAR WHICH WHAT IT WAS THAT WE WOULD LEFT ALL THAT WOULD BE LEFT FOR US TO DO AS A COMMISSION WILL BE TO HAVE TO COME BACK AND ASKING REFERENCES MULTIPLE COMES FROM PERMISSION FOR SPECIFIC PROJECTS WHICH DOESN'T SEEM TO MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME. ARE >> OKAY MOTION NO NOT YET. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR. COMMENT BEFORE WE MOVE PUBLIC COMMENT. ALL RIGHT SO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> KRISTINE ASSESSMENT. ONE VACATION I THINK IT'S WORTH CONSIDERING ON THE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 '07 PERTAINS TO PAGE 3 OF SECTION 2 B TO ME IS BROKEN DOWN INTO 2 SECTIONS TO BE ONE AND 2 B 2 IN REFERENCE TO THE TIME PRIOR TO OCTOBER FIRST 2025 AND BEGINNING OCTOBER ONE 2025. IT SEEMS ODD THAT THE FOLLOWING MORNING IS ONLY LISTED UNDER THE FIRST SECTION 2 B OCTOBER ONE 2025 TO CITY SEAN NOT POINT THE REQUIREMENTS IN THIS SECTION BY SEPARATING A SINGLE SIMULTANEOUS. >> WHERE CAN CURRENT PROJECT IN THE PARTS IF THAT STATEMENT ISN'T REPEATED UNDER THE SECOND SECTION TO ME TO BEGINNING OCTOBER ONE 2025. SECTION IS THAT LANGUAGE NO LONGER DETECTABLE AFTER OCTOBER ONE I THOUGHT IS THAT THE LANGUAGE EITHER UNDER TO ME ONE AND 2 B 2 OR HAS BULLET TO ME. I DOING EITHER OF THESE OPTIONS WOULD ENSURE PARITY THAT THE PROJECT'S CANNOT BE BROKEN UP BEFORE OR AFTER OCTOBER 2025 IN ITS CURRENT STATE THAT HAS ME WONDERING IF THIS IS A GAP OTHERWISE THAT WOULD NO LONGER PROVIDE LIMITATION AFTER OCTOBER ONE 2025. DESPITE MEETING IT FOR IT TO ALL THE COMMISSIONERS SPENDING TIME AFTER READING VIA MULTIPLE AVENUES OF COMMUNICATION. EXAMPLE, TOWN SOCIAL MEDIA EXCEDRIN ON BUILDING TRUST AND EDUCATING CITIZENS TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE LANGUAGE IN THIS THAT MORE FEEL COMFORTABLE SUPPORTING THE BARRING ABILITY. THANK AND PERSON WE HAVE DO HAS AND ROBYN SAMPRAS AT TIME. JOE CENT. >> A LITTLE GAME. SO COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL THAT IS EXACTLY WHERE I WAS GOING. BECAUSE I HAVE HEARD NOTHING AS FAR AS PROBLEM WITH THE EMERGENCY WE ALL KNOW IT'S DEFINITELY NEEDED. BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE KNOW THAT WE ARE LACKING SEVERELY. >> INFRASTRUCTURE AND WE KNOW THAT THERE'S NO WAY TO GET THERE MUST ABLE TO BORROW MONEY. SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS AND WHAT MY CONCERN IS OK, IT'S BY THE WAY 15 MILLION DOLLARS PER PROJECT NEEDS TO BE PUT BACK IN YOUR. >> WHAT IS THE ANNUAL CAP IS IT JUST LIKE THE BLIND CHECK. IS WHAT I'M HEARING SO IT'S 15 MILLION DOLLARS PER PROJECT. HOW MANY PROJECTS WE'VE GIVEN HIM. THAT'S ANOTHER CONCERN SO IS THERE A WAY YOU CAN MAYBE PUT A CAP ON IT OR ANY KIND OF LIMITATION OR FOR THE GENERIC. >> THE OTHER ONE IS. I DON'T SEE WHERE THIS SAYS IT TAKES SUBJECT TO THE DEBT MANAGEMENT POLICY IS THAT JUST BE UNDERSTOOD. DO WE NEED TO PUT THE WORDS IN BUT THIS WILL BECOME SUBJECT TO THE DEBT MANAGEMENT POLICY. OTHER ONE IF YOU LOOK AT THE WAY THAT THE NOTICE A REFERENDUM IS IS READING RIGHT NOW THE WAY YOU HAVE IT ON PAGE >> UNDER. I I IT SAYS TO RESPOND TO A DECLARED EMERGENCY OR DISASTER. WITHIN THIS DOCUMENT ORDINANCE YOU HAVE EXISTING DECLARED. EMERGENCY. SO THAT SAME VERVE IT SHOULD BE USED IN THIS PARTICULAR WAY WORDED. YET DURING 6TH AND 7TH DECLARED EMERGENCY OUR PROJECT AGAIN HAS TO BE PUT ALL OVER THE PLACE 15 MILLION PER PROJECT. >> I WOULD SERIOUSLY CONSIDER IT AS THEY WAITED TO SEPARATE AND MAKE 2 SEPARATE BUT FOR QUESTIONS. I KNOW IT WILL PASS ON THE EMERGENCY. BUT I'M NOT SURE NO MATTER HOW MUCH EDUCATION YOU CAN DO OUT THAT THE PEOPLE DO NOT TRUST. GIVEN YOU GUYS BLANK CHECK. THAT'S WHAT I'M HUMAN. NOBODY'S GOING TO BE A BLANK CHECK AND OKAY 15 MILLION PER PROJECT IT 2030 PROJECTS THEN WHAT. THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING YOU DEFINITELY EMERGENCY REFERENDUM QUESTION. BUT IT'S. I IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S 7030 THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO PASS A. SO MAYBE YOU CAN ACTUALLY SPLIT INTO 2 SEPARATE QUESTIONS IF YOU CAN AT THIS POINT AND AND IN SOME KIND OF A TAP. FOR BEACH WHERE IT'S NOT TO EXCEED A LOT ABOUT PEOPLE ANNUALLY OR SOMETHING LIKE QUARTERLY. ENSURE THAT PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE JUST GIVEN YOU A LIVE CHAT. THAT'S GOT 7. >> OKAY. ♪ ♪ HAVE >> AND JUST TO CLARIFY THIS IS FOR REVENUE BOUGHT THIS SOURCE OF REVENUE IS THAT OKAY, KNOW WHEN YOU'RE SAYING BLANK CHECK I DON'T WANT PEOPLE THAT TO GET THAT IMPRESSION THAT IT'S JUST. >> ALL RIGHT AND THEN I THINK THE DEBT MANAGEMENT. >> POLICY WORKSHOP IS SCHEDULED TO BE IN SEPTEMBER FOR THAT WOULD WILL BE COMING BACK TO SO YOU WANT AND OTHERS KNOW THAT AND THAT'S WHERE IDENTIFY WHAT THE REVENUE SOURCE SO. JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR SO WE DON'T BRING ANYTHING NEW INTO THE NEXT THAT IT IT MUSTARD ABOUT. COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. AND IF YOU'RE. >> IF YOU'RE READY, HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION. >> OKAY. >> THAT'S IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. PUBLIC HEARING AND YES GO MAKE A MOTION. >> MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND ORDINANCE NUMBER 0, 2, 4, DASH 0, 7, >> TO CHANGE ITEM 2. >> I. >> LAST SENTENCE. THE CITY SHALL NOT AVOID THE REQUIREMENTS IN THIS SECTION BY SEPARATING A SINGLE SIMULTANEOUS OR CONCURRENT PROJECT IN 2 PARTS TO AVOID THE LIMITATIONS SET HEARING HAS ITS INDIVIDUAL I 4 UNDER SECTION 2. >> HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL AND CITY CLERK DO YOU HAVE THAT >> YOU HAVE AN CITY PARK CONTINUE NOT DOESN'T. SO 2 MEN ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024. DASH 0, 7, SECTION 2. THE VERY LAST SENTENCE WHICH I READ IN ITS ENTIRETY. TO BE STAND ALONE. 2. I WHICH IS FOR. COMMISSIONER DO MY SUGGESTION TO CLEAN UP A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK YOU WANT TO BE. >> THE 2 THINK WHAT YOU'RE ASKING US FOR THE LAST MONTHS TO BE ONE TO BE MOVED COME A NEW SUBSECTION 2 B OR. THAT'S WHAT I KNOW YOU SAID TO BECOME TO BE 2, 4, TO TO BE IT. >> SO SECTION. IT SECTION. SECTION 2 B. >> AND I V. WHICH IS FOR NEW WORLD FOR. SPECTRUM. >> I'LL SECOND THAT IF THE CLERK HAS A. >> I HAVE TO AMEND ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 0, 7, TO REMOVE THE LAST SENTENCE OF SECTION 2 B. BUT ALL I AND TO CREATE SECTION 2 B I 4 STATING THE CITY SHALL NOT AVOID THE REQUIREMENTS IN THIS SECTION BY SEPARATING A SINGLE SIMULTANEOUS OR CONCURRENT PROJECT INTO PARTS AND TO AVOID THE LIMITATION SET FOR KAREN. >> IS THAT THINK THAT >> WE HAVE THE UTMOST EVERYONE MADE BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL IS RIGHT BACK BY. >> OUR VERY CITY CLERK AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON DO WE HAVE ANY OF THEIR. DISCUSSION ON THAT. COMMISSIONER EMRICH SHOW YOU THAT. YEAH OKAY, OKAY BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO VOTE. WE'LL DO A VOICE VOTE VICE VICE MAYOR'S YES, THERE'S A COMMISSIONER LANGDON YES, MCDOWELL YES, MISTER AVERAGE. YES. ALL RIGHT SO THAT PASSES 5 TO 0 WITH CHANGED A BIT. WE DID BUT OKAY MAKE A MOTION AHEAD. >> MAKE A MOTION ADOPT ORDINANCE OR 2, 0, 2, 4, DASH 0, 7, HAS PRESENTED WITH THE MOTION. INCLUDED. PREVIOUS MOTION PREVIOUS, >> ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY MISTER MCDOWELL TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 0, 7, HAS PRESENTED WITH THE WITH THE PREVIOUS. MOTION CHANGES INCLUDE. AND THAT SPEAKS YES AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR I GO AHEAD COMMISSIONER, YEAH ♪ WE'VE DONE ALL WE CAN DO ON THIS I. >> SINCERELY HOPE EVERYBODY SITTING UP HERE IS GOING TO NEW EDUCATE CITIZENS. AND ULTIMATELY YOU KNOW WE'VE SPOKEN. AND NOW IT'S THE VOTERS TURN AND WHATEVER THE VOTERS DECIDE IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT ♪ FROM THERE. THANK YOU FOR THAT CONVERSATION AND LOOK FORWARD TO NOVEMBER. I THINK ITS 5TH WHEN WE GET THE DECISION FROM THE VOTERS. SO WHAT DO A VOICE. >> VICE YES. LANGDON YES. DO YES. COMMISSIONER HEMORRHAGE. YES. >> AND THAT PASSES I 2, 0, MEANT RIGHT MOVING ON TO ITEM D. ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 0, 9, CITY CLERK CAN YOU READ THIS BY TITLE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 0, 9, AN ORDINANCE THE CITY IN NORTH PORT FLORIDA AMENDING THE CITY OF NORTH PORT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN VOLUME ONE REPEALING CHAPTER ONE PLANNING FRAMEWORK. >> CHAPTER TWO'S FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT REPEALING AND REPAY PLACING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDING CHAPTER 2 GREAT TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT AMENDING CHAPTER FOR UTILITIES ELEMENT MENDING CHAPTER 5 CONSERVATION ELEMENT. MANY CHAPTER 6 RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE ELEMENT AMENDING CHAPTER 7 INTERGOVERNMENTAL COORDINATION ELEMENT. MANY CHAPTER 9 PUBLIC SCHOOLS, THE ELEMENT AMENDING CHAPTER 10 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ELEMENT AMENDING CHAPTER 11 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ELEMENT, PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS PROVIDING FOR ADOPTION PROVIDING FOR TRANSMITTAL OF DOCUMENTS PROVIDING FOR COMPLEX PROVIDING SEVERABILITY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU CITY MANAGER SAYS YOUR ITEM. ONLY 28 WITH 24 CITY COMMISSIONER ITEM AND VOTED SEVERAL OCCASIONS TO WHICH CARRY WHAT WITH NUMBER 20 REPORT AS THE ONLINE. A SECOND READING IT TO BE DETERMINED THAT 2 MOTIONS THAT GERRI ALL REFERENCE TO HAPPEN. WELL IT HAVE I SICK OR DOORS OR TO CLARIFY INTO PURPOSE OF COULD YOU AND TO GIVE THERE WERE 2 TO REMOVE THAT PARCEL FOR 2 ACTIVITY FOR MEDIA THIS WEEK ORDER INTO PUBLIC NATION. THE ORDINANCE BEFORE YOU FOR THE SECOND READING THE MINUTES REFLECT THOSE. >> IT'S FUN PLAY WITH 4 WIRE FLORIDA STATUTE STAFF TO PROPOSE A COMPREHENSIVE. >> IT BUT IT IS YOU KNOW REVIEWING TO PROVIDE COMMENTS ON BOAT AND THEN IT. CITY COMMISSION APPROVED ITS NUMBER 22. FOR THAT THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. >> JUST TO REMIND EVERYBODY TO SECOND READING YES KIND. COMMISSIONER QUESTION SO. THE THAT YES ON PAGE 5. >> WE USED TO CALL. >> AND THAT'S ONE IN A MIX TO IT WAS CHANGED. NOW IN THIS FUTURE LAND USE ITS BEING TOO THERE'S THERE'S A COMPONENT BEING CALLED MDC WHICH IS MEDIUM DENSITY CORRIDOR AND HTC WHICH HIGH DENSITY WHEN I READ THOSE 3 WORDS ALL I SEE IS RESIDENTIAL. IN MY OPINION AND SHARED THIS WITH STAFF WANTED SUBMIT A COUPLE MEDIUM DENSITY CORRIDOR. THESE ARE NOT RESIDENTIAL AREAS THESE ARE INTENSE. DEVELOPMENTAL AREAS. THE TITLE OF THIS DESIGNATION DOES NOT. DO NOTE INTENSITY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DRIVE THAT IN MEDIUM AND HIGH-DENSITY CORRIDORS. IF I WAS TO READ THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME I WOULD KIND OF GO. I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMERCIAL, YOU KNOW IT'S IT'S ALL THIS MEDIUM DENSITY AND HIGH DENSITY AND THEN YOU LOOK AT THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS WHICH IS LOW DENSITY MAYIM DENSITY AND HIGH DENSITY SO I JUST THINK THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO CALL IT WHAT IT IS WE PROBABLY NEED TO JUST SAY MEDIUM CORRIDOR OR HIGH CORRIDOR OR MEDIUM DEVELOPMENT CORRIDOR HIGH DEVELOPMENT QUARTER JUST REMOVE THAT INTO THE WORD BECAUSE THIS IS GENUINELY MORE INTENSE. SO I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF WOULD LIKE TO WEIGH IN ON IF YOU GUYS WANT TO WEIGH IN ON IT, BUT I'LL BE HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION AFTER WE'VE HAD A DISCUSSION. I DO HAVE OTHER ITEMS, I'D LIKE TO BRING FORWARD SO I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU WANT TO WORK BECAUSE I DO HAVE 3 MINUTES. OKAY. >> PARNES >> LORRY BARNES ASSISTANT TRACTOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. >> IF THE COMMISSION CONSENSUS IS TO CHANGE THE NAME OF THE MEDIUM AND HIGH-DENSITY CORRIDORS STAFF OR SO JUST THE TERMINOLOGY MEDIUM INTENSITY CORRIDOR AND HIGH INTENSITY CORRIDOR. >> THAT WE WOULD AS PART OF MY MOTION. >> SO I WILL MAKE A NOTE TO BRING THIS BACK FOR A MOTION AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME MOVING ON OKAY. >> ACTIVITY CENTER 7 WHEN SPRINGS. YOU LOOK AT PAGE 7. IT SAYS AND THIS IS DIRECTLY A RESULT. THIS CHANGE WAS DIRECTLY A RESULT FROM WHEN WE HAD OUR P 3. AND IT NEVER GOT CHANGE BACK. >> IT SAYS USES MAINLY CULTURAL AND COMMUNITY FACILITIES COMMERCIAL HOTEL RESORT OFFICE AND RESIDENTIAL. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION GOVERNMENT AND PUBLIC SCHOOL SHOP ALSO BE ALLOWED IN 70. >> WE ARE WORKING VERY HARD TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH WARM MINERAL SPRINGS. >> AND WE ARE. >> WE SHOULD PROBABLY GO BACK TO JUST HAVING IT BE NATURAL AND SERENE KIND PARK-LIKE SETTINGS REMOVING THE COMMERCIAL AND HOTEL AND OFFICE AND RESORT OUT OF WHAT THIS COMP PLAN IS BECAUSE THE COMP PLAN IS OUR FUTURE THIS IS WHAT WE ARE A TEAM TO GET. AND BASED ON ALL OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT VARIOUS THINGS IN THAT THE FAILED P 3. I'M NOT SEEN THIS BEING COMING TO FRUITION AND I REALLY WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE CHANGED. BACK TO MORE PARK LIKE. AND PRESERVATION CONSERVATION KIND OF CONNECTION. INSTEAD OF HOTELS AND RESORTS IN COMMERCIAL. WHEN YOU IN ON THAT SAME VEIN AND I KNOW I HAVE 36 SECONDS SO I WILL HAVE TO YOU. JUST RIDICULOUS. >> DID >> YOU HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT KNOW WE DID MY TIME'S UP MAN, BUT WE CAN. YOU WANT TO TALK BY OTHER PARTS THAT ARE CONNECTED TO IT COMMISSIONER LANGDON. YEAH. >> REGARDING ONE MINERAL SPRINGS COMMISSIONER MC DOLLARS COMMENTS ARE WELL TAKEN. >> WE HAVE NOT. >> MATT AS A BOARD TO DISCUSS FUTURE OF ONE MINERAL SPRINGS I UNDERSTAND THAT IT WILL BE COMING. >> VERY AFTER BREAK. >> SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE A BETTER TIME FOR US TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION IN TERMS OF WHAT IN ALL OF OUR COLLECTIVE HEADS OF WHAT TO DO WITH THAT LAND SO. I REALLY NEED TO REVIEW IT. AND I THINK THAT BETTER TIMES WILL SPRINGS IS ON THE >> I'M GOING ON THAT SAME ROUTE TO SENSE. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PLANS ARE CITY ATTORNEY I GUESS THAT'S THE QUESTION FOR YOU. WHEN WE HAVE THAT A CONVERSATION AND THEN AT THAT TIME WE WANT TO CHANGE THE COMPANY COULD STILL. >> DO THAT AND AT THAT PARTICULAR SECTION CORRECT. THIS PART >> THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT CAN BE AMENDED TO COMMISSION DIRECTIVE AT ANY TIME. THE ACTIVITY CENTER 7 B. >> DENSITY AND INTENSITY STANDARDS WERE WERE. BASED ON PRIOR CONVERSATIONS GUESS THIS IS TRUE. HOWEVER INCORPORATING THIS ALLOWABLE INTENSE IS IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO STOP. MANDATE THAT THE PROPERTY WILL BE DEVELOPED IN THAT MANNER BECAUSE THE CITY OWNS THAT PROPERTY. THE CITY COULD APPROVE A LOWER INTENSITY DEVELOPMENT, THEY JUST COULDN'T APPROVE ANYTHING MORE INTENSE AND WATTS OUTLINED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE AND I ALSO WANTED TO KNOW AT THE FIRST READING THERE WAS A MOTION TO REMOVE REFERENCES ARE RESORT HOTEL AND OTHER INTENSE IS MOTION BLOCK FOR A SECOND. >> THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING. I LIKE TO GO COMMISSIONER LANGDON DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR PLAN I THINK HE SHOULD CLOSE ANY DOORS BUT WE ALREADY KNOW SHOULD SAY MIGHT WANT TO GO THERE. IT IS CITY-OWNED PROPERTY AND WE CAN DICTATE GOES THERE. SO. VICE MAYOR JEFF I THINK. YOU KNOW THE ONE HAND. >> I LIKE THE IDEA OF MAINTAINING MAXIMUM FLEXIBILITY BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PLANS. BUT I'LL TELL YOU. CITIZENS IN THE CITY HAVE SPOKEN SO LOUD CLEAR WE OURSELVES LEAN TOWARDS THE P 3. WE THOUGHT REALLY RING UP GREAT PROJECT. AND DEVELOPED INTO THAT AREA AND IT FELL APART. AND I THINK. THERE'S AN ARGUMENT TO BE MADE FOR IT SENDS A REAL LOUD MESSAGE CITIZENS THAT WE LISTEN TO HIM IF WE WERE TO TWEET AND AND AND MAKE THE CHANGE COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL IS SUGGESTING. I KNOW IT MAY FORCE TOLL. OTHER WAY DOESN'T FOR SCHOOL DEVELOPMENT ON THAT LAND. IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM AT THIS POINT BUT I THINK. IT SENDS A MESSAGE THAT YOU KNOW WE HEARD IT WE'RE PURSUING AND AND IT PUTS OUR MONEY WHERE OUR MOUTH WE'RE HEADING DOWN A ROAD OF EXPLORING OTHER ALTERNATIVES THAT ARE MUCH LOWER INTO THAT ARE DEVELOPING THIS AND MUCH MORE PARK LIKE ENVIRONMENT. >> AND TO LEAVE THIS THE WAY IT IS. SOURCE SAYS HEY YOU KNOW WINK WINK NOD SOMEBODY COMES ALONG AND WANTS TO BUILD A RESORT HOTEL OR WHATEVER WE CERTAINLY WOULD JUMP ALL OVER THAT MAYBE THAT'S THE WRONG MESSAGE. SO I DO YOU KNOW, I'M KIND OF REAL LIKE ON THE FENCE, I DON'T SEE THE PROBLEM WITH DOING AND I THINK IT SAYS TO THE CITIZENS WE HEAR IT. WE THAT THIS. YOU KNOW LET IT BE SOMETHING LOW INTENSITY AND BY LET'S LET'S LOOK FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ARE BANK FOR A BUBBLE ALONG ORTIZ THAT UNINCORPORATED AREA OF THE COUNTY THAT THE COUNTY'S DONE NOTHING TO TO RESUSCITATE REJUVENATE AND AND AND LET DEVELOP A LOOK AT THAT AREA THAT WILL ENHANCE ENTIRE AREA TURNED INTO MAY BE A GREAT DISTRICT MAYBE THAT'S A BETTER ROUTE TO GO SO I YOU KNOW DON'T KNOW WHICH I'M LEAVING BUT I CERTAINLY WANT TO MY BECAUSE. IF YOU LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS. IT'S JUST TELLING THE CITIZENS THAT YEAH WE DO YOU KNOW. WE HEARD WHAT YOU SAID, BUT WE STILL WANT TO RESERVE THE RIGHT TO TO TO GO THE OTHER DIRECTION AND I DON'T THINK. WE WANT TO GO THE DIRECTION I DON'T THINK MAYBE WE SHOULD BECAUSE OF SO ONCE LIKE. PEOPLE WANT. AND THIS ONE. I MEAN. THINK RICK >> SOMETHING ON THAT SAME YEAH IT. >> WHEN I'M THE MOTION LAST TIME I DIDN'T GETTING SUPPORT I'D COMPLETELY FORGOTTEN ABOUT THE P 3 WAS THAT EVENING AT LIKE 3 O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING. I SAID THE ONLY REASON THAT IN THERE. AND THE ONLY REASON CHART GOT CHANGED IS BECAUSE OF THE WE NEVER CHANGED IT BACK. >> AND. THANK YOU VICE MAYOR BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT. A DEVELOPER COME AND SAY THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO DO GRANTED. IT'S CITY PROPERTY IN THEY CAN MAKE THIS ARGUMENT THAT HEY THIS IS GOING TO FOLLOW YOUR COMP PLAN. >> THAT'S WHAT IT'S THERE FOR JUST THIS IS THE ROAD MAP ON HOW. WE WANT OUR CITY TO LOCK. WE HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. THAT'S HOW I WANT THE CITY TO LOOK AND IF WE DON'T CHANGE IN THE COMP PLAN TO ACCOMMODATE WAS SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE MASTER PLAN. >> THEN. >> WE AREN'T WOULD NOT AND EVEN AGAIN THESE MIXED MESSAGES TO THE REST OF THE WORLD AND LET'S PUT IT THAT THE WAY THAT IT WAS TO BE THE PARK LIKE A MASTER PLAN WAS AND THEN WE CAN ALWAYS AMEND IT TO WHATEVER IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE WHEN WE DECIDE WHAT THAT'S GOING TO BE. BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S TELLING THE WORLD. WE WANT A HOTEL RESORT. >> AND THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M HEARING FROM A SENSE THAT'S NOT WHAT WE HAVE HEARD. COMMISSIONER LANGDON. >> YEAH I I JUST I HAVE TO SAY I TOTALLY DISAGREE IT. NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO MAKE THAT KIND OF CHANGE I WOULD WITH NOT HAD. WE HAVE NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY AS A BODY TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT COMES NEXT. I THINK WE OWE IT TO THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION PUBLICLY NOTICE MEETING SO PEOPLE CAN COME HERE COMMENT AND SHARE WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY I'M NOT PREPARED TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION TODAY, I HAVE LOTS OF IDEAS IN MY HEAD. IT'S A LOT LESS INTENSE AND THE P 3 SO IT'S NOT THAT I DISAGREE WITH CHANGING THAT INTENSITY. NUMBER ONE WE DO ALL THE LAND 7 O DEVELOPER CAN COME IN AND TRY TO PREEMPT US AND LET'S BE REALISTIC WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THIS IN SEPTEMBER OCTOBER TALKING A MONTH MAXIMUM 2 MONTHS AWAY. SO LET'S DO THIS RIGHT. CHANGE IT WANTS HAVE THE CONVERSATION. CHANGE IT ONCE AND FOR ALL AND WE HAVE A PATH FORWARD ON WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THIS PROPERTY. COMMISSIONER AVERAGE WANT TO WEIGH IN ON THAT. YEAH WHY NOT. THE WAY THAT I LOOK AT IT I'D LIKE TO KEEP INTENSITY THE SAME AND I THAT WE'RE NOT LOOKING TOWARDS GOING WITH THE HOTEL. OUR CONDOS THAT'S NOT THE REASON BEING THAT IS THAT I'M STILL LEANING TOWARDS THE REASON BEING IS WE MAY FIND SOME AMENITIES THAT COME LIKE SPOTLIGHT, BUT MAYBE A CONVENTION TYPES ON OR SOMETHING ON THAT PROPERTY THAT WOULD FALL UNDER THE DENSITY REQUIREMENTS NEEDED FOR SOMETHING THAT BENEFITS COMMUNITY JUST PUTTING IT OUT OF PARK LIKE. I'M AREA YOU'RE YOU'RE JUST KILLING ALL OF THAT. SOLITUDE BUT YOU'RE LOOKING AT NO RECORDS WITH THAT WITH ANY BENEFITS TO THE CITY. THE 2019 PLAN I'VE HEARD IT OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. IT'S A NICE QUIET COMP PLAN. BUT WHAT IS THE CITY GOING TO DO BUT SIDES PUT MONEY INTO MAKING ON THE BACKS OF THE TAXPAYERS. SO I WOULD JUST SOON KEEP THE DENSITIES THE SAME UNTIL WE HAVE THAT CONVERSATION KNOWING EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT TO PUT IN THERE OR WHAT'S VIABLE AND STILL LISTENING TO THE CITIZENS BECAUSE THEY MAY HAVE OTHER TYPES OF HIGHER DENSITY. SCENARIOS THAT THEY MAY WANT TO GO IN THERE AS WELL. IT'S IT'S AN OPEN DOOR THAT'S ALL IT IS. IT'S AUGUST. >> I THANK AND YES, YOU KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT PEOPLE WANT THERE MAY BE OR CAN SEE CAFE I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD IT WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE. >> CLASSIFICATIONS IN ORDER TO EVEN ENTERTAIN THOSE IDEAS, BUT AS LANGDON SAID WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN WE DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING. >> WITH THIS AND I NEED TO HAVE ANY DOORS CLOSED WHEN WE'RE HAVING DISCUSSIONS AND VICE MAYOR YOU SAID IT WITH ONE MEANING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BIKE PATH GOING TO FORMAL SPRINGS AND YOU SAID IT WOULD BE LIKE A PATH TO NOWHERE IN ORDER TO HAVE SOME THINGS THERE AND WITH THAT SOMETHING THERE SO PEOPLE CAN BIKE THERE ENJOY SOMETHING AND THEN BACK WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD ENTAIL AS FAR AS THIS AND NOTHING'S GOING TO CHANGE. AS FAR NO ONE'S GOING TO COME IN THERE TO MARS ARE GOING OUT OUT THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AND BECAUSE ITS CITY-OWNED WE HAVE THE LAST SAY. ON THAT AND WE'VE HEARD PEOPLE, LOUD AND CLEAR WHAT THEY DON'T WANT SO. THAT THAT SHOULD BE OFF THE TABLE ALREADY. I THINK THAT YOU KNOW THAT WAS MADE VERY CLEAR PEOPLE DIDN'T WANT TO SEE THEIR AND. SO AT THIS POINT I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM JUST KEEPING IT IN THERE UNTIL WE DO HAVE A PLAN AND I AND I DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT COMMISSIONER LANGDON SAID THE ABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT THAT WARM MINERAL SPRINGS IS BEING DISCUSSED THAT THAT WAS NOT ON THE AGENDA FOR TODAY TO THAT THAT EXTENT RATHER THAN THAT IS DONE IN THE PROPER SETTING SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. THE WAY WE SHOULD BE MOVING FORWARD WITH WITH A WELL THOUGHT OUT PLAN. SO THAT'S. THAT'S SAY THAT THAT COMMISSIONER DOW YEAH THIS WILL BE MY FINAL THOUGHTS ON >> IT IS CLEAR THAT THE PEOPLE DON'T WANT. >> AND THEN THE NEXT WAS OK TO KEEP IT IN. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMP PLAN. THIS IS WHAT WE WANT FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR CITY. >> GRANTED WE THIS CONVERSATION. >> HAS TO GET INTO THE POTATOES. IS OBVIOUS BASED ON WHAT BEEN HEARING. HAVING A HOTEL RESORT IS NOT WHAT OUR CITIZENS WANT FOR OUR CITY. BUT IT'S NOT OK THEN TO KEEP IT IN THERE. WE CAN DISCUSS NOW. THIS IS THE TIME. THIS IS THE COMP PLAN. SO WE CAN TAKE IT OUT AND WE CAN ADDRESS AND THE FUTURE ONCE WE DECIDE WHAT THE WHITE HOUSE SPRINGS IS GOING TO GROW UP TO BE. OK THANK VICE MAYOR. >> REALLY COULDN'T THE SENATE ALL THAT MUCH BETTER I MEAN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE COMP PLAN HERE AND. IF WE CHANGE IT. IF PUT IT BACK THE WAY IT WAS DID IT BECAUSE OF THAT PIECE RAY. AND I THINK IT LET'S CITIZEN SNOW THAT WE HAVE EVERY INTENTION PROCEEDING WITH ITS VERY LOW INTENSITY APPROACH TO THIS PROJECT AND IF FALLS. SOME ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION I MEAN DEFINITELY SHOULD WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN FOR METALS FRIENDSHIP AND THAT'LL YET. BECOMING UP BEFORE I SEE THAT YOU KNOW, I MEAN I SEE NO REASON TO WAIT TO DO THIS BECAUSE YOU KNOW THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN I THINK WE'VE COME OR I HOPE THAT WE'VE COME TO THE REALIZATION THAT THAT THE SHOULD BE MORE PARK LIKE. IT NATURE IF WE DON'T DO IT NOW. AND WHEN YOU SPRING'S COMES MONTH OR MONTH AND A HALF FROM NOW OR WHATEVER IT AND WILL DO BUT EITHER WAY IT NEEDS TO GET DONE BECAUSE. I DON'T SEE A HIGH INTENSITY OR MEDIUM INTENSITY DEVELOPMENT GOING THERE ANYMORE. I MEAN HOW MANY YEARS IS IT GOING TO TAKE. >> HOW MANY CITIZENS SURVEYS HOW STATIONS AND FUTURE ECONOMIC VIABILITY THE CITY JUST NOT REST ON DEVELOPING THAT 60 ACRES INTO SOME ECONOMIC JUGGERNAUT. I'VE COME TO ACCEPT LET BE IN THE PARK LIKE SETTING IT SHOULD WE CAN HAVE ALL KINDS OF WONDERFUL AMENITIES AND REASONS FOR PEOPLE TO COME TO IT TO INTO IT TO ENJOY OF DIPPING THEIR TOES IN THE SPRINGS, MANY PEOPLE DON'T HAVE AN AFFINITY FOR AND WE CAN DO THAT AND THIS CHANGE. IT'S GOING TO TAKE PLACE NOW OR A FROM NOW OR 2 MONTHS FROM NOW, BUT SOONER OR LATER IT'S GOING TO TAKE NOW WITH THEM. >> THINK SPORTS COMMISSION FOUND THAT YOU OTHERS BEEN WERE TAKING TURNS I KNOW WE SYSTEM I DON'T HAVE A RIGHT NOW WITH OTHER QUESTIONS SO GO AHEAD. >> SO IN THAT SAME I DON'T HAVE A COPY OF THE COMP PLAN IN FRONT OF ME I YOU KNOW THE CHART ACTIVITY CENTER CHART ON PAGE 13 WOULD NEED TO ADJUSTED. >> GOING TO DO. BACK TO THE FIRST READING I HAD THIS GIVEN STAFF. >> A LIST OF VARIOUS MAPS THAT ARE PART THE COMP PLAN ELEMENT TOO. SINCE WE'RE REPEALING ALL CHAPTER 2 THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE MAPS I WOULD HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING BACK FURTHER ABOUT THE MAPS BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF MAPS THAT ARE AFFECTED IF WE WERE TO CHAPTER 2 A LOT OF THE MAPS NEED TO BE ADJUSTED. IN SOME FORM OR FASHION AND I I'M CURIOUS SO WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THAT E-MAIL OR THAT. TOOK THAT I GAVE YOU IF STAFF AT FIRST READING. >> TITLE OF ORDINANCE FRANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 2. WHICH INVOLVES AMENDING IT OR LAND I LAMENT AND NOT TO THE REMAINING MAPS TO REMAIN IN PLACE. THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT WORK INVOLVED AND CREIGHTON IN AMENDING THOSE MAPS AND IN SOME CASES, THOSE ONLY TO BE CREATED FROM SCRATCH. STAFF REALLY WAS HOPING TO AWAIT UPDATING OF THE ENTIRE MAP SERIES BECAUSE OF PROBABLY TOUCHES OTHER ELEMENTS NOT SERIOUS AS WELL TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT FOR EXAMPLE. OR AMENDING THIS MAP SO THAT WE WOULD BE. LOOKING TOWARD AMENDING ANY MAP THAT IS IMPACTED BY THIS MAN MEANT AS PART OF A FUTURE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT HIM AND ALL OF THE MAP SERIES AT I TOUCHED BY BECAUSE AMENDMENT HAS BEEN PLOTS. THROUGH THE ULDC WORKSHOPS THE CHANGING OF THE ZONING MAP THE MODIFICATIONS THAT WERE MADE OF FIRST STREET IN THE MODIFICATIONS THAT MAY BE MADE THIS STREET IN. WE PREFER TO HOLD OFF ON THAT. AND UPDATE THOSE MAPS ALL IT INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND REGARDS TO RETAINING THOSE 6 ESTAN MAPS AND INCONSISTENCIES THAT MAY EXIST BASED ON THE NEW INTERIM LAND USE ELEMENT. >> YOU HAVE AN ETA WHEN THOSE MAPS WILL BE ADJUSTED BECAUSE THAT >> LOSS. >> WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE HE'S GOING TO LOOK AT THOSE MAPS NOT BE ABLE MAKE HEADS OR TAILS OF DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA WHEN MAPS MAY BE ADJUSTED. >> WE HAVE A NUMBER OF INITIATIVES THAT NEED TO BE COMPLETED IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE ULDC UPDATE. SO I WOULD HAS TO GIVE YOU A DATE. I CAN TELL YOU THAT THAT'S NOT SERIOUS. REMAINING MAPS AND IN CHAPTER 2 ARE BASICALLY REFERENCE THEY DON'T ALL THE FORCE OF LAW LIKE A FUTURE LAND USE MAP. US. AND AS MUCH AS THAT CONTROLS YOUR DENSITIES MEN 10 STUDIES. IF I WERE TO VENTURE TO GUESS HOPEFULLY BY THE END OF THE YEAR. HOWEVER WE DIDN'T HAVE A NUMBER OF A NICHE AND WE'RE STILL DOWN PLANNING STAFF. >> I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TIME I HAVE MAYOR A SECOND, I DON'T ANYBODY ELSE I. I BELIEVE THERE IS A POTENTIAL CONFLICT. IF YOU LOOK PAGE. >> 22 FUTURE LAND ONE 3.3 FUTURE INVESTMENT. IT SAYS THE CITY SHALL CONTINUE REQUIRING THE DEVELOPER AGREEMENT FOR DEVELOPER FUNDED UTILITIES EXTENSIONS LEVEL LAW. BUT IF YOU GO PAGE 6 OF THE COMP PLAN. IT BASICALLY SAYS THE SAME THING EXCEPT IT HAS THE WORD MAY. AND WE KNOW HOMESTEAD OR WITH THAT NEIGHBOR SAYS SHELL. 6. >> ALL SECOND REFERENCE AND YOU MENTIONED HOLDING IT UP IN SECOND I THINK I WORKED ON THE LAST PAGE I THINK IT'S UNDER THE UTILITIES ELEMENT. OKAY, SO THE ELEMENT THE THE LANGUAGE AND THE UTILITIES ORDINANCE I'M SORRY PAGE 6 4 THE SNOW. >> THAT OF SO THE FIRST PREFERENCES PAGE 22 OF THE FUTURE LAND USE AND PAGE 6 OF THE ORDINANCE IS THE SECOND REFERENCE. THERE'S THERE APPEARS TO BE A CONFLICT. THE WARDEN SAYS MAY BUT THE COMP PLAN SAYS SHOP. >> OKAY IT'S IT'S REGARDING THE SPECIFICITY AND THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, ONE 0.3 SPECIFICALLY DISCUSSING. DEVELOPER EXTENDED UTILITY LINES. >> WHEREVER THEY'RE AVAILABLE. AND THE CITY RIGHT OF WAYS TO THEIR SITE. THE UNDER OBJECTIVE. >> 3 OF THE UTILITIES ELEMENT. IT'S MORE GENERAL. IT DOESN'T TALK ABOUT EXTENSION OF INFRASTRUCTURE FROM. >> IT'S SPECIFIC LOCATION TO SERVE A SIDE AND IT HAS BEEN INTERPRETED IN THE PAST THAT EVERY PROJECT REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEY'RE DEDICATED PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE TO THE BUT THEY'VE BEEN SOLVED HAS BEEN REQUIRED TO I THREW A UTILITY DEVELOPER GREEN THAT A LOT OF WORK FOR EVERY PROJECT WHERE AND THERE MAY NOT EVEN BE ANY UPPER STRUCTURE DEDICATED TO PUBLIC. SO IT'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN EXTENDING UTILITIES TO SERVICE SIDE. AND SERVING A SITE WHERE UTILITIES ARE AVAILABLE AT THE PROPERTY LAW. I HOPE I EXPLAINED THAT I'M NOT. THERE TO BE UNDERSTANDING WHY IT ISN'T CONFLICT SO ITS EXTENSION TO THE SITE VERSUS SURVEYING THE SITE WITH THE UTILITIES UP PROPERTY LAW. >> AND THAT SCENE THE DISTINCTION THAT YOU'RE STATED BUT I WILL YIELD TO YOU FOR OTHER. 1 THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> JUST BOUNCED OVER THE YEAH WHERE STATE FARM LAND IN PORT. YEAH, THANK THEY DID SO THE REFERENCE TO OUR LAND IS TO TO STATUTORY PROVISIONS. >> OF COMPONENTS MUST BE INCORPORATED IN YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO DOES NOT SUPPORT HAVE ANY PARTICULARLY DEDICATED FARMLAND KNOW, BUT WE DO AND AGRICULTURAL ZONING DISTRICT WHERE FARMS PUT STOP LIST. AND THAT IS WHY YOU SEE THE REFERENCE WERE REQUIRED BY STATE LAW TO INCORPORATE POLICIES TO PROTECT FARMLAND. >> AND MAYBE IN THE CITY. >> THANK THAT'S THAT'S APPRECIATE THE SMART BECAUSE EXACTLY THE SAME THING >> I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING ELSE. COMMISSIONER AVERAGE FINAL FINAL SAY QUESTION ABOUT ANYTHING ON THIS ITEM. NO OK. MOVING TO PUBLIC COMMENT. ♪ >> COMMISSION MEETING. MEMBER TO SHOW TO PRODUCTION OF ♪ ♪ LEGAL TEAM ERROR THAT REMEMBER IN THE BECAUSE OF YEAR. ♪ ♪ DON'T CHANGE THE THAT THE COUPLE. IN 27 HAVE STAVE HEART STRICT THE PATH TO GET PLAN LOOK AT THAT. MEANWHILE PROTESTS. ♪ ♪ THE EXISTING PLAN AND INCLUDING THE BORDER. WHAT EXTENSION OF EXPIRATION 3RD RESIDENTS TO HAVE THE RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITY THAT THERE A GO FOR WITHOUT ANY REDUCTION THANK YOU. ♪ >> MY NAME IS RICK BUT WITH WHITE BALL NUMBERS PORCH PUBLIC COMMENT IS FROM ♪ JULY 23RD COMMISSIONERS MEETING BEING HELD 10:00AM THIS MORNING. NUMBER 2024 IN OPTIONAL THE NORTH PLANT. ♪ ♪ CONTINUE ROLL OUT A REAL PUBLIC INPUT. YOU NEED TO CHANGE TO LEAVE THE CHANGE NUMBER TO INCLUDE A PROVISION FOR A LITTLE THESE. ♪ IT WILL BE SENT HOME. BUT ♪ QUESTION THEY'RE PRETTY GOOD AT GOLF COURSE, CLUB IMPENDING USES. IDEA THAT THE COMMISSIONERS WENT OUT BACK OUT GOT PUBLIC INPUT LIKE THEY SAID THEY WOULD PAY 28. BUT THE WAY WAS DESCRIBED PROBABLY COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU. >> REALLY 0, 0, 14 6 THE CALL EVERY GOING ALL OF THE 23RD OF APRIL 20 OUT 24 ADMISSION MORNING TRAINS 1.2 EUR NOT ALWAYS OPTION SHOULD GIVEN MORE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2, 0, 2, 4, 0, 9, THAT WE 5, 3, TO 2. WHAT LIVE IN 2005 WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE HAD IT ENDED COMMUNITY WITH FLU CALLED PORCH. AND MANY OTHER THE REPUBLICANS ON THE GOLF TOTALLY INCONSISTENT WITH THE TERMS CONDITIONS AND OFFERING OF THE MARKETING EFFORTS FOR THE DEVELOPERS FOR MANY YEARS AND WILL BE COMPLETE CHANGE IN THE WE BOUGHT INTO MANY YEARS THANK YOU FOR HEARING CHURCH. >> BY THE YOU WANT WHEN ♪ I TREAT THEY WON'T 23RD 2020 BY PUBLIC HEARING ITEM IN ♪ 2024 THERE'S CONSIDER TO ISSUED ♪ REGARDING 20 KEEP OUR ♪ >> COUNTRY CLUB AND PERSONALLY CONSIDER THE ISSUE. ONE TRUSS BUT AIR. WE KNOW IT AND THE REST OF HER LIFE. AND WITH THE WE DON'T WANT HEAR WEEK. ALSO MADE A POOR START THEN JUST ONE EXAMPLE HIGH DON'T WANT WHEN IT ALL AND NORTH ARANSAS FOR STORAGE AND INTERNET CONNECTION THAT WE PURCHASED OUR CAN SINGLE FAMILY HOME WHERE THE ORIGINAL PLAN TALK ABOUT LIKED BY WE BATTLE AND MAKE SURE THAT THE UNIT. DIDN'T WANT TO TRY I WANT TO TO REPORT. WE APPRECIATE DIDN'T KNOW OUR COMMUNITY TO THAT IT IS A PRECIOUS COMMODITY 2020 24. THINK PROTECT AGE HEALTH ANY INCLUDING WITH ANY NEEDED EXTENSION OF THANK YOU ALL. >> YEAH, MY NEED DRY. YOU KNOW PART THAT REPORT THAT I DON'T KNOW 3 A JURY THE MEETING THAT TAKING ONE OF 2020 OR. THE CHANGE TO ACTIVITY THAT ARE INCLUDING THE AFOREMENTIONED PROBLEM, IT GOT TO OR RESTRICT DON'T CHANGE IT. IT'S PORTION OF THAT COMMITTEE SENATOR TO ALL OF CHANGE TO ONLY IN AREA THAT YOUNG THE JOINING GOLF COP AND NUMBER DID GREAT AT THE END OF MANY DISTRICTS ARE ACTIVITIES THAT OH GETTING TO THE RESIDENTIAL DON'T GET THAT CAME REPEAT REQUIRE IT COME BY, BUT THEY GET TODAY AND JERK AND UP THANK YOU. ♪ DRIVE. AND 2 40 THAT EXPECTATION THAT. >> WE WERE GOING WANT TO GIVE A AND ENJOY THE BUT THE ATTEMPTING TO TO CHANGE ALL THAT. ♪ PLAN THE EXPENSE OF ♪ THE DESTROYED. BELIEVE THE CALL. IN DISTRICT IMPLEMENTING DISTRICT REPUTATION OR 2. ♪ ACTUAL IT'S VERY SHOW TODAY THIS CHANGE WILL KEEP WHAT THEY CALL HALF TO PLAY. APPEARS HELP ♪ DEVELOPMENT OF ARE THOUGHTFULLY PROF OF 8. THANK YOU FOR AND ♪ ♪ MY NAME CAR. WAITING YOU FOR AND YOU IT. COREY >> THE TOMORROW, JULY 23RD 2024. BEEN A WHAT SHOW. CHANGES NO. ♪ ♪ STORM OR TO 4 K. YOUR OWN ♪ ♪ TO BE DEVELOPED. CARE I KNOW YOUR SHE NOTICED THE CHANGE DO AND YOU WHAT WE SAW WITH THE BALL. THANK YOU. GOING INTO. THANK YOU. ♪ >> COMING THE TOP OF ♪ WERE TO REMAIN ♪ ENVIRONMENTAL AREA. WE LOOK AT PLANS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SINGLE-FAMILY THAT'S GOING TO BE GATED COMMUNITY WITHIN COMMUNITY. ♪ ♪ IN NEIGHBORHOOD. DID WANT THAT. ♪ ♪ SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN AWAY FROM CREATE. ♪ ♪ >> 40 WHAT EVERY CREEK. I'M LIKE BY THE 0, 3, 4, 1, THE A LOT 23RD OKAY. ABOUT TO CHANGE CHANGE I THINK THAT THAT'S KIND OF CRAZY. A LOT OF PROBLEMS FOR 2 OF THEM ARE THEY'RE HEY DID YOU REALLY DO HAVE RECREATE WHAT TO CALLED HOME. MAY. ♪ ♪ BY THE BORDER. PARTICULAR IT WITH UP TO THE AND A LOT OF AND WEEK A LOT GREAT FOR TO TO KEEP ALL THOSE SERVICES OR THE ADDITIONAL TRAVEL PROBLEMS THAT ARE GOING TO TOLD IT AND IT IT AND UP PROBABLY SOMETHING CALLS IT ONE LIVING THERE GREAT. YOU KNOW TO THE CHANGING. BE IN THE QUITE CONCERNED HERE ON THE THANK ♪ >> THE WEEKEND. ♪ ♪ >> AS I'M A POSITION TO CHANGE IS PENDING TO ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 0, 9, THERE IS NO PLAN PURSUE OKAY SHOULD REMAIN AS ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED VIA THE DEVELOPER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL BUT A MAXIMUM DENSITY OF 4 UNITS PER NOTING PARCEL CHAOS ON THE 9.7 ACRES LAW FOR A MAXIMUM OF 39 UNITS THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE REVISION VIOLATES THE OFFICE FEW TO FUTURE LAND USE MAP FLUME OF THE PORT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS LITTLE DENSITY RESIDENTIAL WITH A MAX DENSITY OF 4 UNITS PER ACRE. THIS ORDINANCE IS COMPLETELY CHANGE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF THE CITY IS NOTHING MORE THAN A GIVEAWAY AT THE FUTURE OF OUR CITY TO DEVELOPERS AGAINST THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE EVERY NEIGHBOR I HAVE SPOKEN AS OPPOSED TO THESE COMMISSIONERS VOTED ON THIS MATTER MAKE CLEAR EXACTLY THEY REPRESENT EITHER THE PEOPLE OR I DON'T KNOW DEEP POCKETS. CENTER. I HONOR AND THEY HEAR A GREAT DEVELOPMENT, I'M STRONGLY OPPOSE THE PROPOSED CHANGE TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND IN TURN THE COMPANION CHANGE TO THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WHICH REMOVES PLANNED COMMUNITY DISTRICT PC DAY AS THE IMPLEMENTING ZONING DISTRICT FOR COMMUNITY. AND THE PERSON I HAVE JUST MET. THEN >> FOLLOW JOSH SMITH SYSTEM ABOUT I MEAN TODAY OF THOSE MEETINGS WE'VE DEFINITELY GOT TO WATCH YOU GUYS WERE ONLY LAST VOTE AND YOU KNOW CONTINUE TO COME UP AND FIGHT FOR WHAT THEY WANT TO AND SOME ALWAYS CORNER OUT ALL THE WAY TO GET A TOE. IT'S A SUNS CONTINUE TO BET YOU TO DO CERTAIN THINGS TO TAKE CARE OF OUR RIGHTS FOR YOU KNOW THERE'S A GIANT PORTION OF THE CITY THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE INFORMED. THERE'S ALWAYS CHANGING. SUMMER IS IN STATE STATUTE SAYS THEY DON'T HAVE TO AND THE CITY GOOD ENOUGH FOR US. IT'S REALLY SAD TO SAY. WE'VE GOT TO HAVE A QUICK PEOPLE HERE. WE WERE PROMISED A BILL OF GOODS. YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE A CHANCE TO PROTECT KIDS ARE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO UP. I FEEL THAT YOU KNOW I BEEN SAID MAYBE THEY WOULD GET IT THERE'S THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO THE CITY. TO PROTECT THE CITIZENS RIGHTS. THAT'S ALL WE HAVE IT'S REALLY YOU. THERE ARE ARE REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO THE DAY WHEN THIS COMMISSION PUTS IN THE PER PER CITIZENS AS THEY DO FOR DEVELOPERS, THANK YOU VERY >> AFTERNOON MY NAME IS ROLAND OVER PAY RESIDE AT 51 31 PUNCH AT THE LAND. AND HARRY CREATE. OWN THE PROPERTY SINCE 2006. THEY'VE ALSO BEEN WITNESS TO ALL OF THESE PROMISES THAT A DEVELOPER HAS MADE. AS YOU CAN SEE WE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ARE YOU HAVE TO TALK AND ALSO LEFT TALK AS ACTIONS TO THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE COMPLEXITY AND SCOPE OF THESE OBJECTIONS AND THEIR IMPACT ON OUR LET'S ADDRESS BY A TRAIN A LITTLE BACK AND HIS E-MAILS TO YOU. YESTERDAY. AT THE RISK OF PILING ON HERE. I LIKE TO MAKE LIKE TO BRING UP A FEW MORE POINTS. PEOPLE HAVE TALKED ABOUT ELIMINATING THE PLANNED COMMUNITY DISTRICT WHICH AN AMENDMENT AS THE IMPLEMENTING DISTRICT OR CREEK DRA. THEY PC DAVID CARR'S A MASTER PLAN ADOPTED BY THE CITY COMMISSION IS AFTER PUBLIC HEARINGS. FOR ANY DEVELOPMENT IN THE DISTRICT. THAT IS A HUGE IMPORTANT PROTECTION FOR EVERY AND IN THE FUTURE ONCE THE DRI EXPIRES. WITHOUT THIS KIND OF A MASTER PLAN. THE DEVELOPER CAN MORE EASILY CONVERT GOLF COURSE LAND INTO RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WITH POTENTIALLY UNLIMITED DENSITY UNDER THE PROPOSED LAND ZONING OF NEXT YEAR. IT'S APPARENTLY NO TEXT THAT WE CAN FUND AND THEREFORE POSE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT REQUIRES THE CITIES. APPROVAL OF ANY DEVELOPMENT OF THE COURSE ONCE THE EXPIRES PROTECTION EXISTS TODAY WHICH IS THE MASTER-PLANNED REQUIREMENT OF THE DISTRICT. THAT'S WHY THIS IS SO IMPORTANT. HOWEVER THE THE THE CHANGES THAT THE CITY IS NO CONSIDERING IT'S GOING TO TAKE THIS AWAY FROM CREATE. IF THE NEW PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE TO MIXED USE IS APPROVED FOR OPEN GOLF COURSE LAND LOCATED IN ACTIVITY CENTER 2 WEST OF SUMTER BOULEVARD THIS COULD CREATE AND TIME AND FOR THE DEVELOPER YOU COULD THEN ANYTHING HE WANTS LAND SO LONG AS IT COMPLIES WITH THE ULDC MATRIX OF APPROVAL LAND USES. FOR THIS ACTIVITY CENTER. THAT'S ENTITLEMENT WOULD LIKELY RUN WITH THE LAND AND SURVIVED THE EXPIRATION OF THE HERON CREEK DRI. THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE TO OUR H.O.A. AND RESIDENTS BECAUSE IT WOULD VIRTUALLY MAKE AN IMPOSSIBLE BUT IT'S IT PUT THE CITY TO SAY NO DEVELOPING PRO GOLF THANK YOU. THANK YOU. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, LADIES AND GENTLEMAN. MY NAME IS GREG I LOVE IT 5286 WHEN I DRY. CREEK COMMUNITY. TAKEN LONG WITH WITH A NUMBER OF OTHER PEOPLE SAID. I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 21 YEARS. I WOULD SOLD A BILL OF GOODS IF I BOUGHT MY HOUSE ALL RIGHT I WOULD HAVE THAT GOLF COURSE FOR THE REST OF MY WIFE IF I STAY GREAT. WE'VE BEEN AN EXTRA AMOUNT MONEY TO HAVE A GOLF COURSE IF YOU. BECAUSE THAT WAS SO IMPORTANT TO DEVELOPER. I. WE HAD A SECOND WE DECIDED TO GO FROM ONE HOUSE TO ANOTHER THE STATEMENT HERE CREEK BECAUSE WE LIKE THAT WHY BECAUSE OF THE BEAUTY THAT TIME AND THE DIFFICULTY OF THE GOLF COURSE REALLY ENJOY IT GOES BY 5 TIMES A WEEK IT IS OUR ENJOYMENT. IT'S OUR RETIREMENT. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ENJOY IT SOMETHING THAT WE WERE SO. OHIO WANTS A BILL OF GOODS. LET'S SAY WE RE ADVERTISEMENTS THAT ONCE WE MOVED NOTHING WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THE GOLF COURSE IT WOULD STAND TO GOLF COURSE IT WOULD 3, 9, HOLES. ALL RIGHT. >> SOMETHING THAT THAT'S THAT'S SOMEWHAT IRRITATING IS IS THAT. IF THIS GOES THROUGH IF YOU PASS THIS VENTURE AND DO AWAY WITH WITH THE THE RIGHT OF THE GOAL OF COURSE TO STAY THE WAY IT IS RIGHT THERE GOING TO BE SO MANY HOMEOWNERS LIKE YOURSELF, I'M LOOKING AROUND LOOKING. WELL I SEE A LOT LOT OF GREAT WORDS APPEAR DISLIKE ME OKAY. YOU'RE GOING RETIRE OR YOU WANT TO HAVE A GOOD LIFE YOU WANT TO BUY INTO SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK IS GOING TO SATISFY FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE. I LOOK AT THIS AND I HATE TO SAY THIS. BUT I LOOK AT AS THE DEVELOPER BEING GREEDY. HE WANTS MONEY. IT'S BASICALLY WHAT HE WANTS. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AND MAYBE I'M WRONG ALL RIGHT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING HE OWNED THE PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET FROM HERE KUWAIT. AND HOW MANY HOW MANY HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF APARTMENTS AND HOMES ARE GOING UP THERE. WE NEED TO MORE IN HERE CREATE. MY LAST COMMENT AND I. THE DEVELOPERS MOTIVATION. IT'S GREED AND MONEY. IF YOU FOLES. SEE NEED. ♪ LETS YOU DO AWAY WITH WITH ♪ 40 PASSES MOTION AND DO AWAY WITH OUR RIGHTS AS A COMMUNITY. WHAT WILL PEOPLE THINK OF YOUR MOTIVATION. THANK YOU. >> AND THAT AND ENTAIL. WELL, I FEEL LIKE I'M IN A DREAM. >> I'M GOING BACK ALL THE PEOPLE ARE SPEAKING OUT AGAINST WARM MINERAL SPRINGS THAT WE'VE GOT THE PEOPLE BREAK. WHEN LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE WANT MINERAL SPRINGS YOU'VE GOT TO LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE THAT WEEK. YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE. I TRY TO COME UP HERE LOWER MY VOICE AND BE VERY NICE. I'M SO PASSIONATE WHEN IT COMES TO WOMAN WILL SPRINGS AND LISTENING TO THE PEOPLE SPEAK TIME AND TIME AND TIME AGAIN. THEY USED THE WOMAN THINGS THAT COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL AND COMMISSIONER SPOKES AGREED UPON SHOULD BE TAKEN AT. OKAY CREATE A LITTLE BIT MORE WHAT IT SHOULD BE IN HERE RIGHT NOW. THERE'S SO MANY DISCUSSIONS GOING ON REGARDING WOMAN SPRINGS, AND THE POSSIBLE PRESERVATION OF THE BUILDINGS AND WITH SOME NOT PROFITS COMING IN AND WHAT SOME GRANT MONEY COMING IN THAT CANNOT GO BACK TO THE P DESIGNATION AND WHILE YOU CHANGED IN THE FIRST PLACE AND HOW IT REFLECTED THAT IT SHOULDN'T BE TAKEN OUT. AND YOU'VE GOT TO LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE WE KEEP SPEAKING IN FRONT OF YOU GOT LISTEN TO US AT SOME POINT. I'M WAITING TO SEE WHAT GOING TO DO WITH THEM CREATE IF YOU REALLY GOING TO WE DESIGNATE ACTIVITY CENTER OR ARE WE GOING TO DO WHAT YOU DID WITH WARM MINERAL SPRINGS DETAINED THE PIECE 3. UNTIL IT'S JUST SMACKED IN THE FACE LEFT YOU'VE GOT TO LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE IT'S NOT GOING TO GET ANY BETTER AND THEN I LOOK AT THE CORRIDORS IT'S LIKE LITTLE BIT OF A NEIGHBORHOOD IS GETTING AND SAY IT AND SOME OF THIS OF THE USES THAT EVEN SPECIAL EXCEPTION USES AND THESE COVID TOES. WE DIDN'T KILL US. NOBODY BROUGHT IN UNDER THE CONSUMPTION THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A HOTEL RIGHT NEXT TO A LITTLE BIT OF A POSSIBLY HAVE A A REPAIR SHOP, AN AUTOMOBILE SHOP NEXT DOOR US. THAT'S ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS. THERE'S NO RUSH AND TRYING TO GET THIS THROUGH THE WAY IT HAVE TO TAKE A BREATH AND SORRY YOU HAVE TO TAKE A BREATH AND BE CONSIDERED WHAT'S GOING ON HERE, TOO MUCH THINGS WITHIN PLAN THAT'S CRAZY. WHEN IT WAS LOUIS AIR. >> I REPRESENT 7 SOULS WANT HER SPEAK IN FRONT OF YOU. 2 PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND ACTIVITY US ACTIVITY CENTER 6 IS CURRENTLY ZONED RESIDENTIAL THAT ABOUT TO CHANGE. I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE WOMAN THAT LIVES OUT THERE RIGHT NOW AND ANOTHER MAN THAT WAS HALF THEIR HALF OF NEW YORK CITY AND TRAVELS AS A MUSICIAN. THE OTHER 5 SOULS FOR MYSELF MY FIANCEE KIMBERLY WEEKS, 22 YEAR-OLD SON TRAVIS WAS ACTIVE MEMBER OF THE ARMY NATIONAL GUARD AND ALSO SERVE RESCUING PEOPLE DURING HURRICANE IAN IN THIS AREA ISOM THEODORE'S 2 YEARS OLD TO BE TOO AUGUST 6. PART OF PORT THAT 2 YEAR-OLD IS ALREADY DEVELOPING EMPATHY FOR THE ANIMALS IN THE BIRDS OUT IN THAT AREA IS DEVELOPING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE NORTH PORT POLICE OFFICERS AND RESCUE BECAUSE MY FAMILY HAS BECOME SELF-APPOINTED NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH OUT THERE. WE PREVENTED 2 CAR BY FORMER FIRE AND RESCUE. WE HAVE ASSISTED THE CITY OF NORTH PORT POLICE BY ME BEING ON PHONE WITH THEM MAKING A FELONY DUI STOP AND NOT BEING ABLE TO FIND THE PERSON OUT THERE. SO WE'RE MAKING THESE THINGS OUT THERE TO HELP SUPPORT OF COMMUNITY. WE BOUGHT A PIECE OF PROPERTY IN 2020. WHEN THE PANDEMIC STARTED TO REDUCE OUR DEBT MOVE OUT OF THE HOUSE OR SO WE'RE AT WE SOLD A HOUSE LAS VEGAS. WHAT WE READ IN SARASOTA SO WE CAN MOVE DOWN HERE TO DEVELOP A WHOLE. WE DID OUR DUE DILIGENCE IN 2020 EVERYTHING FROM THE SIZE OF THE HOUSE IS CHECKS. WHAT PROPERTY WE CAN BUILD THEIR WHAT WE HAVE TO DO THAT WE CAN HOMESTEAD AND BUILD OURSELVES BECAUSE THE REALITY OF TODAY'S WORLD. I CAN'T BUILD A HOUSE MUST I DO IT MYSELF FOR UNDER $200,000 IF THIS BECOMES ACTIVITY CENTER 6. I CAN'T DEVELOP THAT WAY IN FOR WESTERN A MILLION DOLLARS AS AN INDIVIDUAL TRYING TO SUPPORT MY FAMILY NOW IS BY RENT HAS DOUBLED SARASOTA. I CAN'T DO ANYTHING. AND I'M GRATEFUL THAT VICE MAYOR STOKES MADE A POINT THAT WE CAN'T MAKE A POINT WITHOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE THERE AND HERE WE'VE BEEN APPLYING FOR PERMITS AND THE CITY OF NORTH PORT ZONING AND PLANNING CANNOT GIVE US ANSWERS ABOUT GRANDFATHER IN THAT WE APPLY FOR THE PERMIT. WHEN DO WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS 5, 4, BUT THEY'RE WORKING ON ANSWERS THAT THEY CANNOT RECEIVE SO ASKING THAT WE REPAIR THAT MAYBE THE COUNCIL PROPOSES A MOTION FOR CONFORMING EXCEPTIONS FOR FAMILIES LIKE MINE TO BE ABLE TO STILL DEVELOP PRESIDENTIAL OUT THERE BEING ONLY 2 CITY BLOCKS AWAY RESIDENTIAL AREAS AFTER THE CHANGE. EXCEPTION FOR NONCONFORMING SO THAT BIBLE MULTIFAMILY OUT THERE THE STRUCTURES CAN GET TAX BY BREES WAYS AND NOT TO BUILDINGS TOUCHED EACH OTHER, SO WE COULD STILL HAVE MULTIFAMILY UNITS OUT THERE LIVE AND BE CONFORMING TO THE FUTURE USES BUT WITHOUT YOU GUYS DOING THAT THERE'S FAMILIES TRYING TO LIVE OUT THERE THAT HAVE ALREADY BOUGHT HOMES. THIS MAY PROVE THAT MY FAMILY FROM LIVING HERE ANY LONGER YOUR GOAL IS AN ACTIVE SOLDIER WHO IS CURRENTLY APPLYING TO BE A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. I I WANT TO GO TO SCHOOL HERE 1, TO 2 YEAR-OLD GO TO SCHOOL THE SIGN ON THE WALL AND NEED TO IMPLEMENT SAYS IN GOD WE TRUST THAT'S WHY I WANT MY FAMILY PART OF THIS COMMUNITY. AND I'M ASKING YOU TO PLEASE CONSIDER EXCEPTIONS FOR FAMILIES LIKE MINE AND EVERYTHING JUST SAID I'M GOING TO FOLLOW EMAILS PAPER MILL TO ALL OF YOU AND FARMS BECAUSE THAT MAP IT JUST MEANT PREVENTING THE ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS SO MY FAMILY CAN SUCCEED AND PROSPER IN THIS COMMUNITY. >> THANK YOU THANK ♪ ♪ >> AND THEREFORE YOU START THE CLOCK OF MY I HAVE RESPONSE TO MY REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL TIME RATHER THAN THE BARE 3 MINUTE, EVERYONE HAS BEEN MINUTES, LET'S THAT EVERYONE HAS 3 MEN. AND AGAIN AT THE BEGINNING AND A PUBLIC WHAT IT OUT OF THAT VIOLATE STATE LAW FOR MEANINGFUL PARTICIPATION AND THE FACT THAT YOU FAILED TO VOTE FOR TRANSMITTAL AND INSTEAD VOTED FOR A CONTINUANCE WHICH HAS NOT OCCURRED SETTING SO BUT FOR PROCEDURAL. TRIAL. REGARDLESS LET'S TALK ABOUT THE SUBSTANCE OF THIS. WE KNOW THAT THERE IS A TREND THROUGHOUT FLORIDA AND ACTUALLY. OF DEVELOPERS TRAINING GOLF COURSES INTO RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. AND ABOUT BUT WAS THE DRI EXPIRES THERE'S NOTHING TO STAND IN THE WAY OF THE DEVELOPER DOING THAT STAFF TO SAY OH YES, THERE BUT THEY HAVEN'T POINTED TO THERE IS ONE SINGULAR WHICH PREVENTS THE DEVELOPER CHANGE IN THE GOLF COURSE AT THAT POINT IN TO DEVELOP. AND THAT IS THE PROVISION THAT MANY WITH TALK TO YOU ABOUT THIS NOW BEFORE THIS. AND THEN WE HAVE SAYING TO HER. OVER AND THAT IS THE FACT THAT YOU COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SAYS THAT IMPLEMENTING ZONING DISTRICT PRETTY BOTH THE NORTH PART OF THE SOUTH PART IS PLANNED COMMUNITY DISTRICT. PLAYING COMMUNITY DISTRICT IN YOUR ZONING CODE MAKES THAT THE ZONING DISTRICT. YOU'RE PROPOSING IN THIS AND ULDC REVISION TO 8 PC. SO THAT WHEN THE GOLF COURSE IS ELIGIBLE AT THE ROCK SPIERS THEY COME IN AND ARE ACTIVITIES THAT ARE TOO. AND THEN A RESIDENT. AND YOU CLEARLY IGNORED FAILED TO RESPOND IN ANY RESPECT SENSIBLE PLAN FOR AS THE ATTORNEY ERIC REID PEOPLE LAND USE EXPERTS. LAST 30 YEARS. IN YOU NEED TO ADD TO THE USES. IN THOSE 2 AREAS, GOLF COURSE AND GOLF AND TENNIS CLUB HAS ALLOWED TO USE. THAT'S NOT IN THERE NOW UNDER THE STAFF PROPOSAL. I WOULD PASS OUT THE VIEW OF VISION IGNORE WELL. THE CHANGE IN THE LAND USE MAP PICTURE OF HUGE CHUNK OF THE GOLF COURSE WITHOUT THOSE MADE FOR RECREATION SLASH OPEN SPACE. AND TURNS IT INTO BEING ELIGIBLE FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. NOR ALSO 2 BROTHERS HAVING MORE THE MAXIMUM WHEN UNITS ON PARTIAL PAY. AND STAFF SEEKING TO AID AND ABET THAT AFTER OUR APPEAL SUCCEEDS WHICH SHOULD. >> ALL RIGHT BY PUTTING IN THERE THAT THAT THERE CONTROLS WHICH HAS BEEN THEIR ARGUMENT COUNTRY LAW. ALSO THIS TO LEAVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMPETITIVE COMPATIBILITY POLICIES AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT GIVEN YOU THE NUMBERS THAT I DON'T HAVE TIME READ READ THEM, IT WOULD INCREASE MAXIM RESIDENTIAL DO THAT ROLLING INTO THE 20 UNITS. THE GOLF COURSE IS ABLE DEVELOP. AND THERE'S BUT YOU'RE CUTTING ME OFF. AND THAT GOES CONTRARY TO STATE LAW THAT WE >> REASONABLE UP TO PUBLIC. ♪ >> I HOPE YOU KNOW TAKE PART OF THE TOURNAMENT REQUEST. THEM RATHER THAN JUST TURN YOUR BACK ON A LITTLE FOR SHARES PEOPLE 2 THANK THE 5181 PRO. SO COURT WITH JANUARY THIS YEAR. I JUST WANT TO SHARE SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSION. MISTER FLETCHER SHARE WITH US RESPONSE TO CONCERNS. OFTEN YOU KNOW OF THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THINGS ARE GOING ABOUT THEIR. AND HIM FOR SOME OF THE LETTER REACTION TO MAYBE A LITTLE BIT THIS OPENING MY POINT WE'VE HAD SOME DIFFERENCES BUT HERE'S WHAT YOU SET SO THEY A GREAT GOLF COURSE IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF CITY'S IDENTITY. THE CITY IS NOT TAKING ACTIONS. IT WOULD CREATE INCENTIVE MAKE IT EASIER. WE DEVELOPED THE GOLF COURSE ANOTHER USE. THE CITI SHARES THE HERON CREEK COMMUNITIES DESIRE. THE COURSE TO HAVE A WARM SUCCESSFUL FUTURE. BUT ENJOYMENT TO OUR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS. THAT HAS ADDRESSED. THE CONCERNS IN THE REASONS WHY THE COMPETENT SHOULD BE AMENDED. WE ALSO PROVIDE LANGUAGE THE INCLUDED THE COMP PLAN HELP PRESERVE THE GOLF COURSE AS IT IS. ANYONE WHO'S BEEN CREATE WILL TEST IT'S BEAUTIFUL. IT'S RESERVED NATURE AND MY WIFE AND WELL EVERY NIGHT AND WALKED PART WITH THEIR GOLD. AND WE DRIVE AROUND SUNSET AND JUST KEPT UP. THE THAT WOULD BE DESTROYED PUT UP. WHAT DO WE IT'S JUST A SHAME. ASK THAT THIS COMMISSION. LISTEN TO WHAT MISTER FLETCHER HAS TO START. THE GOLF COURSE SPREAD AND STAYED. AS HE SAYS INDICAN JOY IT PEOPLE TO COURSE CAN ENJOY IT. AND I ALSO SHOULD SET. I'M QUITE SURE WHAT DO YOU WHAT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT WITH PAY. ALL THESE WITH THE GOLF COURSE REDEVELOPED FOR PURPOSE. I THINK EVERY MORE. THERE PEOPLE THAT TAKE ABOUT 30,000 ARE CUT. A GAS, BUT I THINK THERE'S SOME MULTIPLY THAT THROUGH HOMES. THE BY A LITTLE MORE IN THE SO THAT'S STARTED THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT RIGHT REALLY HERE. >> PASTOR. QUESTIONS DISCUSSION, BUT WANT TO MAKE IT OFFICIAL COMMENTS COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. YOU KNOW WHAT. I DON'T YOU BUT I ADMIT I DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING THERE IS TO KNOW ABOUT HERON CREEK. BUT I GOT TO HAND IT TO THE CITIZENS THAT HAVE COME OUT TIME AND TIME AND TIME AGAIN PLEADING THEIR CASE AS TO WHAT WE CAN DUE TO ASSIST THEM. OUR HANDS ARE VERY MUCH TIED BECAUSE OF YOUR DR. THAT WAS APPROVED WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY BACK. THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO HERE AND I'M GOING NEED THE ASSISTANCE OF STEP. BUT BEFORE WE GO FORWARD WITH THAT I WANT TO REMIND THEM BECAUSE IN THIS FUTURE LAND USE. >> I LOVE LITTLE FOOTNOTES BECAUSE SEEM TO GET LOST EXCEPT FOR DETAIL, ORIENTED PEOPLE. THERE'S A AFTER INTO THE CENTER TO THAT SETS. CREEK HERON CREEK DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ARE GOVERNED BY THE DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT DEVELOPMENT ORDERED NOT THE STANDARDS HERE SO I HOPE THAT HAS ONLY A LITTLE BIT CARS. BUT WE ALSO HAVE THIS FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND I REMEMBER DURING FIRST READING IT UP. ABOUT WHY. DID WE GET RID OF RECREATION OPEN SPACE. IN THE CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE MAP THERE IS A RECREATION OPEN SPACE COMPONENT. THAT IS YOUR GOLF COURSE. THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED. THIS CURRENT FUTURE ZONING MAP. IT'S SPORT, IT'S A PERFECT LITTLE SQUARE. >> AND IN THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE WEBSITE. IT SAYS THAT ITS PROPERTY USES A GOLF BY REMOVING THAT RECREATION OPEN SPACE ON OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP. DOES IT GIVES ME CONCERN GAMING CONCERN FOR STREET AND I STILL HAVE THAT SAME CONCERN. >> SO WE'VE HEARS THAT FROM FIRST. >> READING. THAT WE COULD ADD THAT BACK IN BUT IT WOULDN'T BEING CALLED RECREATION OPEN SPACE BECAUSE STAFF. REMOVE THAT AND NOW NEEDED CONSERVATION. AND NOW NOT IN THE BALL FOR US, BUT ALL OF THE WRECK OPEN SPACE HAS BEEN CHANGED TO CONSERVATION. I I REALLY REALLY BELIEVE THAT 40 CITY TO HAVE BALANCE. YOU CONSERVATION RECREATION OPEN SPACE DESIGNATED AREAS YOU HAVE SINGLE-FAMILY DESIGNATED AREAS YOU HAVE A COMMERCIAL DESIGNATED AREAS REGARDLESS IF IT'S ON YOUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP OR ON YOUR ZONING BY REMOVING THESE THE RECREATION OPEN SPACE. >> WE'RE TELLING THE WORLD. >> DOESN'T MATTER US. >> AND THAT CONCERN ME FIRST READING AND IT CONCERNS ME THAT. I'M HOPING THAT STAFF COULD COME UP AND GIVE ME SOME. IDEAS ON HOW TO. SO IS THE RECREATION OPEN SPACE THAT IS ON THE EXISTING FUTURE LAND USE MAP THAT IS THAT SQUARE FOR AND CREED. >> AND PUT THAT BACK. AND THEN GO BACK AS CONSERVATION. BECAUSE THAT SEEMS TO BE WHAT EVERYTHING THAT WAS RECREATION OPEN SPACE CONVERTED OVER TO. AND OF COURSE I UNDERSTAND THIS WOULD ALL HAVE TO BE AMENABLE TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS I GET THAT. >> BUT IF WE'VE GOT START THE CONVERSATION SOMEWHERE AND HAD MY >> A LORRY BARNES ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. >> BEFORE WE DELVE INTO THE OPEN SPACE QUESTION I WANTED TO VERY BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT E IT'S REALLY AND AS A NATION ON HERE AND CREATE IT YOU COULD BRING UP THE SCREEN. THE NORTH SIDE OF HERON CREEK ACTIVITY CENTER. THE SOUTH SIDE OF SINGLE FAMILY. WELL ANNE MARSH CREEK. ORIGINALLY WAS CALLED MARCH GRAHAM I CAN FORWARD WITH THEIR DRI THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ON THE SOUTHSIDE OF PROPERTY SHUT UP AND CHANGE TO A FUTURE LAND USE THAT ALIGNED WITH PLANNED COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ZONING DISTRICT. WHAT THAT WAS I WILL NEVER NOW. WE HAVE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ZONING DISTRICT WHICH IS SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED FOR USE AND ACTIVITY SAUNDERS APPLIED OVER THE WHOLE HERON CREEK PROPERTY EXCEPT FOR THAT TINY LITTLE SQUARE AND THAT TINY LITTLE SQUARE RIGHT THERE IS THE DRIVING RANGE. OKAY THE OPEN-SPACE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND THE CITY'S CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS INCREDIBLY MISLEADING. THAT WRECK OPEN SPACE WAS APPLIED ON PORTIONS OF HUNDREDS OF PRIVATE PROPERTIES THAT WRECK OPEN SPACE ELIMINATING THEIR DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS DESPITE THE FACT THAT THEY COULD ACHIEVE. DEVELOPMENT AUTHORIZATIONS UNDER STATE LAW. WHO ARE BUILDING ON THOSE PROPERTIES EVEN IF THEY WERE ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE PROVIDED. THANK ALL OF THE RULES YOU HEARD EARLIER THIS MORNING ABOUT THE 3 OPTIONS. 2 MITIGATE WETLANDS. THAT IS ONE THAT IS THE PRIMARY REASON WHY WE HAVE ELIMINATED RAT OPEN-SPACE IT EARLY AND BECAUSE PUTS THE CITY IN A PRECARIOUS POSITION BECAUSE IT ELIMINATES DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS ON A PORTION OF SOMEBODY IS PRIVATELY OWNED PROPERTY. NUMBER ONE NUMBER 2 WE DID APPLY ALL THE CITY ON PROPERTIES OR CONSERVATION OF THE CITY ON PROPERTIES AND THOSE FIRE MENTAL SENSITIVE AREAS. I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND BRINGING THE WRECK OPENS ITS FUTURE LAND POT. EVEN IF WE WERE TO APPLY IT TO THE DRIVING RANGE ON THIS PROPERTY THAT DOES NOT SOLVE THE CONCERNS THAT PROPERTY OWNERS CREEK PROPERTY OWNERS. YOU KNOW AND THAT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT THESE ISSUES WERE BROUGHT TO LIGHT WHEN THEY PURCHASE THEIR PROPERTY. ARTICLE 17 OF THE 1999 REPORTED DECLARATIONS. COVENANTS RESTRICTIONS AND CONDITIONS IN THE CASE THE PRESENT OR FUTURE USE OF THE GOLF COURSE FOR GOLF CARTS PURPOSES MAY BE DISCONTINUED OR SUSPENDED ANY TIME HERE AFTER BY THE COUNTRY CLUB OWNER. THAT IS TIME THAT RELATE RACIAL COVENANTS RESTRICTIONS. I WANT MORE THE D R I DOES INCLUDE NOT COULD BE A MANDATE TODAY. TO WORK LAST. A CHANGE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS ON ON THE GOLF COURSE PROPERTY. IT'S A COMPACT IT'S IT'S AN AMENDMENT TO AN EXISTING DO YOU NOT. YOU HAVE IN YOUR DRAFT FUTURE LAND USE ON THAT PROVISIONS THAT REQUIRE THE CALL PARENT CRATE OFTEN COUNTRY CLUB TO ABIDE BY THEIR DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT IF THAT EXPIRES WILL BE REQUIRED TO COME BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT TO ASSIGN ACTIVITIES THAT CITY'S AND INTENSITY OR SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DENSITIES MEN TAX OR SOME OTHER DENSITY IS AN INTENSE IS UNDER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IF DRI OWNS WHAT. AND WILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS FOR GUARD, LET'S. YEAH, THEIR DEVELOPMENT IT'S GOING TO INVOLVE AN E. WAIVERS TO THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. THEY WANT TO LOOKING AT COMING BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION WITH A NEW MASTER CONCEPT PLAN OR MODIFIED DEVELOPMENT CONCEPT PLAN. APPROVAL BY THIS COMMISSION SO I CAN UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS. THE DEVELOPER ALSO HAS PROPERTY RIGHTS AND IF WE ENTER SEED AND START APPLYING. A FUTURE LAND DESIGNATION THAT AUTHORIZES NOT ABOUT THAT. IT'S A TAKEN. AND WERE SUBJECT TO A HARRIS ACT IF WE DO THAT PROHIBITS THEM FROM DOING ANYTHING ON THEIR PROPERTY THAT THE CURRENTLY AUTHORIZED TO DO SO. TO TAKE IT AND WE COULD BE SUBJECT TO HARRIS ACT CLAIMS. SO YOU KNOW IT IS CONCERNING THAT YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF CONSENTS CONSTITUENTS HERE THAT ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE FUTURE OF GOLF COURSE, THE CONVERSATIONS THAT THEY NEED TO BE HAPPEN. WITH THE GOLF COURSE OWNER AND SEE CAN BE TO ENSURE LONG-TERM FINANCIAL VIABILITY AND CONTINUED OPERATION OF THE COURSE. THE CITY AND HERE. AND A LAWSUIT AGAINST THE CITY AND ASKING STATE LAW NOW. CORPORATES PROVISIONS THAT IF WE WERE TO LOSE WE WOULD BE PAYING THE DEVELOPER'S ATTORNEY SO THOSE THINGS ALL NEED TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AS YOU MAKE YOUR DECISIONS. >> WE JUST REAL QUICK GO BACK BECAUSE YOU WHEN WHAT I HEARD. YOU SAY, NO NO NO I'M SORRY PUBLIC COMMENT IS OVER. KNOW THAT THAT'S LAW. >> WE NO ABOUT NOW. NOW. >> WE'RE COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL QUESTIONS AND WITH THERE BEING ADDRESSED. SO WHEN I ASKED ABOUT THAT THAT'S RECTANGLE AREA. I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY THAT IT'S A DRIVING I'M LOOKING GOOGLE MAPS OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT THE PROPERTY APPRAISER USES AND IT LOOKS LIKE THERE ARE ACTUAL GOLF COURSE HOLES. >> AND THIS IS AND I'VE BEEN THERE I DON'T BUT I'VE BEEN THERE IT IS THE GOLF COURSE, AND IT CURRENTLY HAS RECREATION OPEN SPACE BY CHANGING INTO RESIDENTIAL ON OUR FUTURE LAND USE GOING BACK TO THIS IS THE MESSAGE WE'RE SENDING TO THE THAT THIS COULD BE RESIDENTIAL IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN RETAIN THE RECREATION OPEN SPACE FOR THAT AREA. I KNOW YOU'VE ALREADY CHANGED THE CITY-OWNED PROPERTY FOR CONSERVATION I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN CHANGE THIS TO CONSERVATION. CAN WE CREATE THE RECREATION OPEN SPACE ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP THAT AREA IS RECREATION OPEN SPACE. >> I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND IT. AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD YIELD A RESULT AT YOU. THINK THAT IT IT'S A VERY SMALL AREA. NO IDEA WHAT ACREAGES. BUT CHANGING JUST THAT PORTION. WOOD. WHERE THE HARM IN DOING IT WITHOUT MINIMAL. HARMON DOING IF WE CHANGE. >> IF WE INCORPORATE WRAPPED UP IN SPACE BACK INTO THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT. IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF WORK NUMBER ONE NUMBER 2 END UP HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WELL WE SHOULD HAVE READ OPEN OVER HERE TO WAR OVER THERE TOO. THE IMPACT OF THAT LITTLE SQUARE A WRECK OPEN. IT'S NOT SIGNIFICANT LIGHT OF THE DEVELOPERS RIGHT UNDER THEIR DRI. NOT AGE DOES NOT SHOW AREA KNOWN JUST AS. PRESERVATION RECREATION OPEN SPACE IMPROPER TO IT. SO I'M I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING ACCOMPLISH I DON'T THINK WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING FOR THAT SMALL SQUARE IT'S GOING ACCOMPLISH MUCH AS FAR AS ALLEVIATING ANY CONCERNS OR REDUCING ANY ANY SUBSTANTIAL ANY REDUCTION TO DEVELOPMENT ENTITLEMENTS. >> AND IF ITS RECREATION OPEN ON A FUTURE LAND USE MAP. >> IS. IT IS SAYING THAT. >> THIS AREA CANNOT BE DEVELOPED SINGLE-FAMILY WHERE IS THE PROPOSED. ♪ FUTURE LAND USE MAP IS SHOWING IT AS POTENTIALLY DEVELOPABLE TO SINGLE ♪ FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. IS THERE A PROHIBITION TO PUTTING IT INTO CONSERVATION BECAUSE THE CONSERVATION LAND BY THE DEFINITION OF CONSERVATION WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF THINGS ALL YOU WOULD HAVE TO ALSO DO IS JUST GOLF COURSES TO THAT DESCRIPTION AND ARE >> CONSERVATION IT BRING UP THE SCREEN PLACE AND I UNDERSTAND PARCEL K IS NOWHERE NEAR YOU'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT PARCEL K THAT IS NOT OUR CONCERN BECAUSE THAT IS PART OF DR. I I'M TRYING FIGURE HOW TO PUT BACK SOMETHING AN EXISTING FUTURE LAND USE MAP OKAY OKAY SO HERE'S MY PAGE. >> MAP THAT SHOWS THE SERIOUS THE DRIVING RANGE. IF THEY WANT TO CHANGE THAT UNDER THE CURRENT DRI. >> THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO I USED CALL THE NOTICE OF PROPOSED CHANGE. ♪ AND APPLYING THIS WRECK OPEN SPACE ON ♪ THIS AREA WHICH. YOU KNOW IF I HAD TO GUESS I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY ACRES WOULDN'T WANT TO GUESS 24 ACRES. >> 24 ACRES. >> IF WE WANT TO APPLY IT DOESN'T CHANGE THEIR DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS UNDER THE DR. THEY WOULD NEED AT AGE. OKAY. WE CANNOT APPLY CONSERVATION. IF WE APPLY CONSERVATION THAT INVOLVES NO DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS AT ALL. AND THAT WOULD TAKE THEIR RIGHTS. TO USE THE PROPERTY AS THEY CURRENTLY USE THAT FURTHER, WHY WOULDN'T RECOMMEND ALLOWING GOLF COURSES IN CONSERVATION WE NOT NECESSARILY WANT TO ENCOURAGE MORE GOLF COURSES WITH WATER UTILITY CHALLENGES WE HAVE IN THE CITY. >> IS THERE A PROHIBITION AND ACTIVITY CENTER TO UNDER THE DESCRIPTION ADDING THE WORK HOSPITALS. >> AND ARE ACTIVITY CENTERS TO COURSES A PERMITTED USE IT IS NOT A PERMITTED USE IN SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND WE DO NOT RECOMMEND CHANGING THAT'S RIGHT BECAUSE IT'S SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NOW HAS FUTURE IN IS WHY ONE OF YOU KNOW WE WANTED TO APPLY THE ACTIVITY CENTER ACROSS THE ENTIRE AREA BECAUSE IT'S ENTITLED UNDER THE DRI FOR MIXED USE >> THE ACTIVITY CENTER. SO SENDING DISTRICT ALLOWS ALL OF THAT USES THAT THEY'RE PERMITTED AND THAT YOU KNOW ELIMINATED ANY QUESTION AS TO WHAT'S ALLOWED AND WHAT'S NOT A LOT. INSTEAD WE REVERT BACK TO THE SINGLE EMILY FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION BECAUSE OF ALL THE CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED BY THE COMMUNITY ON THE L BECAUSE IT'S NOT REFLECTIVE WHAT THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO UNDER THEIR DRI. >> WHAT STICKY WHEN IT. >> THE CONCERN THAT I'M HEARING FROM THE RESIDENCE IS PRESERVATION OF THE GOLF COURSE, AND ALSO HEAR CONCERNS ABOUT PARSE OK FOLKS THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT MY FOCUS IS TRYING TO PRESERVE THAT. AREA THAT IS THE SQUARE ARE NOW HEARING THAT THAT'S REALLY NOT ALL THAT POSSIBLE. SO I DON'T KNOW ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER WANTS TO WEIGH IN ON I CAN ALSO TRY AND MAKE SOME MOTIONS AND MY SPEARS AND MISTER CHAIR. THANK YOU FOR THE CONVERSATION. >> IF THE DEALER LIKES BUYERS. FELLOW OVER WANTS TO BUILD ON THIS GOLF COURSE. WILL THEY HAVE TO COME TO THE CITY COMMISSION TO GET PERMISSION. AND CAN THE CITY COMMISSION SAYING NO. >> THEY WILL HAVE MOUNT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO ESTABLISH NEW DENSITIES INTENSITY IS OUT OF ARE OFF EXPIRES. AS FAR AS THE GOLF COURSE IS THAT THE PERMIT USE ON THE ACTIVITY CENTER PORTION THE PROPERTY. SO THEY COULD KEEP THE GOLF COURSE TO KEEP THE GOLF COURSE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THEY REQUIRE A REZONING IF THEY REQUIRE. AND A WAIVER ANY WAIVER TO THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. IF THEY WANT TO INCORPORATE HORIZONTAL MIXED USE INSTEAD OF OR TO CALL THIS IS IT'S A DUAL MASTER CONCEPT UNDER THE PROPOSED ULDC. THERE ARE SEVERAL DIFFERENT SCENARIOS THAT COULD OCCUR AT THE VERY LEAST THEY WOULD BE TO DO A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THAT MEANT MOST COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ON THAT REZONING AND A MASTER CONCEPT PLAN. >> WHICH CITY COMMISSION WILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO DENY. IF THEY SO DECIDE. >> THE CITY COMMISSION HAS DISCRETION TO APPROVE OR DENY LAND USE DECISIONS TO THE EXTENT THAT'S A. >> OUR OFFER US UNDER OUR UNDER FLORIDA LAW. >> QUICK QUESTION. JUST FOR A VERY QUICK QUESTION WHEN DOES THE DRI >> ALL RIGHT NOW. THEY HAVE SENT NOTICE OF AN EXTENSION OF THEIR BUILD OUT FOR PHASE 4 TO JUNE 23RD 2028. IT'S BEEN A >> SO IT WON'T EXPIRE UNTIL 2020 FOOT UNLESS THEY HAD STARTED THE >> AND WHO AUTHORIZES EXTENSION. >> THE THE STATE ALLOWS THEM TO EXPAND UNDER THE EMERGENCY ORDER AND THAT WAS THE LAST EXTENSION THAT THEY REQUESTED. WE DO NOT. AND OUR CODE AND AUTOMATIC EXTENSION PER DRI DEVELOPMENT ORDER. SO IF THEY WANTED TO EXPAND THE TIME FRAME. OUTSIDE OF THE EMERGENCY ORDER AUTHORIZATION ON THE STATUE ONE >> WHICH COME BACK TO OFF BUT DURING THE EXTENSION PERIOD CAN THEY BUILD. HOW CAN THEY BUILD HOUSES MAKE COURSE OR NOT UNTIL CANNOT BUILD ANYTHING THAT IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH MAP AGE THAT I JUST SHOWED YOU SO BASICALLY EVEN HE GOES AND EXTENDS IT. YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING SO LET REICH'S EXPIRES AND AT THE POINT IN TIME WHICH EXPIRE FOR HIM TO BUILD HE'S GOT TO COME BEFORE CITY COMMISSION AND GET PERMISSION TO DO THIS STUFF. >> AND THE CITY COMMISSION HAS JUST ONE CLARIFICATION HE PUT A MASK. ALL RIGHT BRING A CHANGE MAP IT'S ALL WORD TO YOU ALL RIGHT, BUT WE COULD DENY. >> IF WE SO CHOSE. >> GO BACK TO STICKY WICKET OKAY YOU. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS, BARNES HAVE WE RECEIVED ANY RATE PLUS FROM THE DEVELOPER TO CHANGE THE USE OF NECK, GOLF COURSE HAVE WE GOTTEN ANY INDICATION. >> THAT THAT IS IN THE I HAVE IN MY FILES THEY HAVE NOT APPLY FOR A THEY HAVE SUMMIT IN ANY FORMAL APPLICATION. >> IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WAS SOME TIME AGO A GENERAL INQUIRY BUT I DO NOT HAVE IN MY POSSESSION IN RIGHT DIRECTOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES I CAN SAY THAT LEAST SEVERAL YEARS AGO PRIOR TO TO EITHER ONE OF US COMING THE DEVELOPER HAD A CONVERSATION OR EXCHANGING E-MAIL OR LETTER OR SOMETHING WITH A PREVIOUS CITY MANAGER ABOUT WHAT WOULD THE PROCESS WE WANTED TO LOOK INTO DOING MATT THAT'S AS FAR AS ANY DISCUSSION WHEN IT. SO THERE NEVER BEEN ANY SINCE OUR TIME HERE WITH THE DEVELOPER OR ANY OF THE DEVELOPERS REPRESENTATIVES ABOUT THAT WE DID AND I WILL DISCLOSE WE HAD. WE HAD A DISCUSSION WITH THE OWNER. THE GOLF COURSE. DID STATE THEY NEED TO BOOST THEIR MEMBERSHIPS IN ORDER TO BE FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE. FOR THE LONG TERM. AND THAT'S SIMPLY BECAUSE OF GOLF COURSE BUT BUT THERE WAS NO DISCUSSION. DURING THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT REDEVELOPING THE GOLF COURSE INTO ANYTHING BUT IT'S STAYING A GOLF COURSE. >> AND MY SECOND QUESTION START WITH AND THE AND I'M SURE THAT EVERYBODY UP ON THIS DIET AGREES WITH THE PEOPLE HERE WE WANTED HERON CREEK GOLF >> IS THERE >> POSSIBLE WAY. WE CAN MITIGATE THE RISK. OF SOMETHING LIKE THAT THEY HAVE TO COME BEFORE A FUTURE COMMISSION TO MAKE THAT COMP PLAN AMENDMENT BUT BEYOND THAT IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO. >> TO CREATE HURDLES OR DISCOURAGE OR TRY TO SIDESWIPE. ANY ATTEMPT TO CHANGE THE USE OF THAT POINTS. >> I I UNDERSTAND THAT ARE I CAN SAY THAT WE BELIEVE THAT THE. CONFERENCE OF PLAN IS CLEAR THAT IF THEY WANT TO DO ANYTHING BUT A GOLF COURSE THEY HAVE TO COME BACK TO US. BUT IF THE COMMUNITY DOES NOT FEEL THAT THAT'S CLEAR WE CAN SPELL IT OUT EVEN MORE CLEAR AND WITH THAT SOMETHING THAT SIMPLY VERY CLEARLY STATES. IN ORDER TO. IT. WE ALSO HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T WE DON'T VIOLATE THE BUT EXPIRATION WE COULD WITH SANTA ANA EXPIRATION OF THE DRI THE. PROPERTY WILL TO UNDERGO A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT TO ESTABLISH. THE LAND USES AND INTENSITIES CAN THAT BE A FUTURE LAND USE UNDER THE FOOTNOTE NUMBER ONE CHART. IT'S LIKE THAT. I MEAN I CAN SPELL IT GOOD LIKE SO YOU CAN SPELL IN CRAYON WE WE WANT TO MAKE IT >> WE WE ARE NOT TRYING TO DO ANYTHING THAT WOULD MAKE IT. >> EASY OR ROBOTS IT DEVELOPING THE GOLF COURSE TO REDEVELOP THAT COST. >> SO WHAT IS THE WILL TAKE SO I CAN USE ITS OUR MOTION. ♪ >> WHAT WAS IT THAT YOU JUST SAID I JUST I JUST SAID THAT SHOULD DR. SHOULD BE MARCH CREEK HERON CREEK DRI. ♪ >> EXPIRE. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT. WOULD BE REQUIRED. TO ESTABLISH NEW. DENSITIES. IN 10 CITIES AND LAND USES FOR THE PROPERTY >> HAVE CRAFT ON THE AND IT WOULD BE REQUIRED. >> TO ESTABLISH NEW. >> IN CITIES. IN 10 CITIES. AND LAND USES. >> FOR THE PROPERTY. FOR THE GOLF COURSE PROPERTY. >> ONLY GOLF COURSE PROPERTY. FOR THE HIGHER RATE GOLF AND COUNTRY THANK >> OKAY SO WOULD BE REQUIRED TO ESTABLISH NEW DENSITIES INTENSITIES AND. LAND USES CALL FROM EXCELLENT THANK YOU VERY MUCH USE THAT. THANK I JUST I OF JUST JUST. THAT'S FROM THE DR. EXPIRES CORRECT. BUT STILL IT'S PLACE THAT COVENANT THAT AT ANY TIME THAT OVEN AND PART OF AIR AND CREEK THAT EVERY RIGHT TAP WATER GOT A COPY OF. >> RIGHT AND I THINK IT WAS THAT IN THE LAST. I MEAN WE MET HERE AT THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN DISCOVERED DURING OR SOMETHING THAT THERE IS A COVETED ATTACHED TO BUY BUYING PROPERTY SO THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN IN THERE THAT THE. >> GOLF COURSE AT A TIME TO BE DEVELOPED BY BY IT WAS ROCK FRIENDS AS THE TOP AS THE RECORD OR DOCUMENT COVENANTS RESTRICTIONS AND CONDITIONS WITH THE OFFICIAL RECORD BOOK AND PAGE. SO YOU KNOW ANY ATTORNEY REPRESENTING UP PROPERTY OWNER WOULD HAVE LOOKED AT THAT I'M AT A BUYER BEWARE INDIVIDUAL ALRIGHT SHOULD HAVE READ THAT FROM FRONT TO BACK TO UNDERSTAND THEIR ROLE. ALL OF THE RESTRICTIONS AND CONDITIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THE COMMUNITY THEY WERE BY HAND AND SOME A PORCH LIGHT ITSELF, SOME WERE NOT AWARE SOME BUT ALSO THE CITY CANNOT CONTROL THE CONTINUED OPERATION. >> A COMMERCIAL SO WE WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THAT AS TO WHETHER IT FAILS OR SUCCEEDS WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER AND NO AUTHORITY TO REQUIRE BUSINESSES TO STAY OPEN OR TO CONTINUE YOU RIGHT EVEN IF IT WASN'T IN THE COVENANTS WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO CONTROL STATE YOU LIVE IN 2 OF THE MEMBERS THEY DON'T HAVE THOSE GOLFING MEMBERSHIPS AND IT COMES TIME AND THEY OWNER FEELS. >> I NEED TO DO SOMETHING IN ORDER AND THAT MEANS A BILL THAT HE STILL HAS THAT THING THE OWNER COULD CLOSE THE GOLF COURSE ANY TIME THAT I MEAN SEEN IT HAPPENED ON GOLF COURSES ALL THAT COUNTRY. >> SO IT'S ENTIRELY POSSIBLE THAT IF THEY DON'T OR CAN'T MAKE THE NUMBERS WORK ANYMORE TO OPERATE THE GOLF COURSE THAT HE COULD CLOSE IN JUST LEAVE THE PROPERTY. I MANAGED RIGHT. >> WE SURE ABOUT THIS LINE WHICH IS THAT I THINK IT TAKES MAYBE THE ONUS OF WHATEVER GOING TO BE SITTING UP HERE THAT THIS REALLY WE'RE VERY LIMITED TO WHAT CAN DO AS FAR AS CONTROLLING AS IT'S GOING STAY OPEN. WE CAN'T WE CAN'T. TAKE TAKE THAT SO I THINK THIS GIVE SOME CLARITY TO THAT LANGUAGE THAT WAS MISSING. THE VERY BEGINNING SO THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL YOU READY I AM IF Y'ALL ARE GOING OK THEN A FEW. FIRST BEFORE WE LOSE OUR TRAIN OF THOUGHT MAKE A MOTION. TO INCLUDE THE VAN E ACTIVITY CENTER'S THE FOOTNOTE NUMBER ONE FOR ACTIVITY CENTER 2 TO REQUIRE. SHOULD THE DRI EXPIRED NOT GOING TO READ IT ASK FOR BECAUSE I THINK YOU'VE ALREADY STARTED TYPING IT. YOU DID APOLOGIZE. SO >> E. >> ACTIVITY CENTERS ON PAGE 13 THE CHART. THERE'S A FOOTNOTE NUMBER ONE THAT THE MARSH CREEK HERON CREEK. SHOW THE DRI EXPIRED. COM PLAN AMENDMENT. WOULD REQUIRED. TO ESTABLISH A NEW DENSITY INTENSITY AND THE USES. 4 HERON CREEK GOLF AND COUNTRY CLUB. I MEAN TO SAY IT UNDER FOOTNOTE NUMBER ONE. CREATED, I'M SORRY MARCH CREEK HERON CREEK. DR. I SHOULD ADD DRI EXPIRE. COM PLAN AMENDMENT WOULD BE REQUIRED. TO ESTABLISH NEW DENSITY INTENSITY AND LAND USES FOR HERON CREEK GOLF AND COUNTRY CLUB. >> AND THERE ARE THE 30 SECONDS NOTICE YOU KNOW WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO BE LOT OF REAL NO PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE LEGALLY RULE WE HAD READY. IF IT LIMITED FACT RIGHT THAT SENATOR TO GOING TO BACK A MOTION TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT. >> TO INCLUDE UNDER ACTIVITY CENTER'S PAGE, 13 CHARTS BUT NO ONE MARCH CREATE AND HERON CREEK SHOULD THE DRI EXPIRE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT WILL BE REQUIRED TO ESTABLISH NEW DENSITY INTENSITY AND LAND USES FOR HERON CREEK GOLF AND COUNTRY CLUB. >> ALL RIGHT THAT WAS MAYBE COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL AT THE SECOND. TO IT REALLY HAVE A GO AT ITS MY UNDERSTANDING THE ENTIRE HERON CREEK ALSO COUNTRY CLUB IS NOT JUST THE ACTIVITY CENTER. IT IS LIKE. >> THINK CENTER >> OKAY DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE. ON THAT. >> WELL ABOUT READY. >> ALL RIGHT MY PHONE MY I HAD CHAT. >> VICE MAYOR YES, THERE'S THE S MIND AND SAY YES. SO YES. COMMISSIONER >> I MEAN OKAY SO THAT PASSES 5, 2, >> MY AUNT WHY HAVE. >> ON >> THE COMMOTION TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE DISTRICT NAMES. OF MEDIUM DENSITY CORRIDOR. 2 MEDIUM INTENSITY CORRIDOR. ALONG WITH HIGH DENSITY CORRIDOR TO CHANGE IT TO INTENSITY CORRIDOR. >> I'LL SECOND DISCUSSION. OKAY. ♪ COMMISSIONER READ ♪ HER MOTION. WITH REGARDS TO THE MEDIUM INTENSITY AND HIGH INTENSITY WANT TO READ THAT BACK COURT. >> TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE DISTRICT NAMES, A MEDIUM DENSE TAKE ORDER TO MEDIUM INTENSITY QUARTER AND HIGH-DENSITY CORRIDOR TO HIGH INTENSITY CORRIDOR >> THAT WAS SECONDED BY LINE AND OVER THE LAST JUST LIKE TO APPLY THAT SAME LANGUAGE TOO LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL LOW INTENSITY RESIDENTIAL FOR SYSTEM SAFE. I CAN'T AGREE TO THAT BECAUSE THAT IS THE RESIDENTIAL. AREAS. AND IS THE RESIDENTIAL PART OF THIS FUTURE LAND USE. THAT IS THE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY. THAT'S THE YELLOW ON THAT I OKAY. >> ALL RIGHT SO THAT IS THE OPTION ON THE TABLE ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS, SURE EMERGENT IF BOW. NO OK SO WE'RE GOING TO VOTE WELL. >> VICE MAYOR VICE MAYOR IS YES, THERE'S YES LAND ANY YES. I DO MISTER AVERAGE. >> I MEAN YES ALL RIGHT SO THAT MOTION REGARDING INTENSITY ASA'S 5, 0, THAT YOU HAVE ANOTHER ONE I I GOT A COUPLE MORE TO GO. >> UNDER. >> ACTIVITY CENTERS. UNDER. ACTUALLY WE DO IT IN ACTIVITY CENTERS. THE CHART THAT SHOWS DENSITY COMMERCIAL IT DOESN'T HAVE A TURRET NUMBER ON HERE BUT IT'S A PAGE 13. ON PAGE 13 EMOTIONS GOING TO BE TO CHANGE ACTIVITY CENTER. CHART ON PAGE NUMBER 13 REMOVING ACTIVITY CENTER 7 BE IN ITS ENTIRETY SHOULD ACTIVITY CENTER 7 AND ACTIVITY CENTER 7 PAY. I GET A SECOND WE CAN TALK. REPEATED I'M AND PAGE 13 OF THE FUTURE LAND USE. ITS ACTIVITY CENTER'S THERE'S A CHART. I AM MY MOTION IS TO REMOVE ACTIVITY CENTER 7 IN ITS ENTIRETY THE SECOND WE CAN DISCUSS. YEAH, YOU KNOW SECOND THAT US. IS A COMPONENT OF THE P 3. >> WE HAD WHEN WE FIRST DO ACTIVITY CENTERS AND WE SEPARATED ACTIVITY CENTER 7 FROM 7 A 7 WAS ALL CITY-OWNED PROPERTY 80 ACRES. WAS THE PRIVATELY OWNED PROPERTY. THIS WAY WE SHEEN THE C ACTIVITIES CENTER SEVENS. MAXIMUM DENSITY AND INTENSITY THROUGHOUT. AND REMOVING JUST WHAT WAS CONSIDERED A HOTEL IN THE RESORT BY REMOVING THIS IN ITS ENTIRETY WE WILL THEN BE ABLE TO REMOVE IT FROM. FUTURE LAND USE DESCRIPTIONS ON PAGE 7. BECAUSE THEY'RE RELATED YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE ONE WITHOUT THE YOU'VE GOT ONE WITH THE OTHER. OKAY COMMISSIONER LANGDON. >> I WOULD NOT SUPPORTIVE OF THAT THE SAME THAT NEED TO DISCUSS ONE MINERAL SPRINGS AND ITS ENTIRE DAY. >> AND MAKING ANY CHANGES. BUT AT THIS POINT. >> YOU KNOW WE AGAIN WE HAVEN'T HAD THE DISCUSSIONS SO WHY WOULD YOU CHANGE IT WHEN WE DON'T HAVE A PATH FORWARD FOR THAT WHEN WHEN WE HAVE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT WARM MINERAL SPRINGS THAT WOULD BE THE TIME. >> IF WE SO DESIRE TO COLLAPSE 7, 7, B. BUT I THINK THAT CONVERSATION AND THAT DECISION THE DECISION AS PREMATURE. >> OKAY ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THAT. >> BUT THINK IOS DO >> YOU KNOW FROM SUPPORT OF CHANGING THIS UP BUT WHERE I'M ON THE FENCE SERIOUS IS THE APPROPRIATE TIMING DISAGREE I MEAN I'M I'M I STRONGLY BELIEVE NEEDS TO. THE ADDRESS BUT YOU KNOW PERHAPS WE WINDS COMING UP SEPTEMBER AND THIS IS A COMMON COMP PLAN ISSUE NOW I MEAN. THAT WE CAN ALWAYS MAKE AMENDMENTS THAT LED TO YOU KNOW I DO TO CHANGE ITS. LET'S HAVE THE CONVERSATION AND MAKE ONE. >> DECISION AND THEN CHANGE ALL UNDER AND EXCEPT WHY WE HAVE BELIEVE THAT WE'RE GOING TO DEVELOPING ANYTHING OTHER THAN A LOW-INTENSITY THERE AT THIS POINT WHICH CASE WHY NOT DO IT NOW AND SEND A CLEAR MESSAGE THAT THIS COMMISSION IS COMMITTED TO EITHER SOMETHING LIKE THAT WELL SOMETHING LIKE THE 2019 WHERE THAT WE ARE NOT GO TO SIT OUT THERE AND WE'VE A QUESTION IN EVERYBODY'S MIND AS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO HERE. I WHAT WOULD WE DO IT NOW THAT SO I VICE I KNOW THINGS DIFFERENTLY I KNOW APPRECIATE I APPRECIATE YOUR POINT OF VIEW. SUPPORT THIS. YEAH, WE'LL SEE ANY REASON NOT TO DO IT NOW. >> OKAY SO THAT LIKE MISSION MCDOWELL AND I DID HAVE A SECOND MIND EVEN IF I IF I COULD MEAN COMMISSIONER ♪ >> JUST AMENDED ENTIRELY AND JUST REMOVE 7 BE ENTIRELY FROM THE COMP PLAN AND JUST GO BACK TO 7 AND ♪ 7 A. JUST WHAT WE HAD. PRIOR TO THE P 3. I WILL MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO REMOVE 7 IN ITS ENTIRETY. IT REMOVES THE HOTEL RESORT ALL OF THAT CONVERSATION. AND WE CAN GO NUMB END IS NEEDED. WE HAVE A FIRST AND SECOND CORRECT. >> FIRST FOR THE MOTION BUT I MADE AN AMENDMENT TO REMOVE ACTIVITY CENTER 7 B IT'S IN TIRED. SO THAT'S YOUR AMENDMENT TO THE AND OCEAN. >> VERY SECOND. WE ARE EXPECTING THE FIRST SO I MEAN I'M LOOKING AT VICE MAYOR HE'S OKAY WITH THE MONEY. >> SHE NEEDS A SECOND TO HER ROUND >> SECOND DISCUSSION ONLY BECAUSE I'M SO YOU'VE GOT SECOND. I KIND OF LIKE THE IDEA OF KEEPING 7. ONLY BECAUSE I THINK THAT THEY SHOULD BE DIVIDED PARCELS IN TERMS OF OUR ABILITY DOWN THE ROAD AS WE ADDRESS WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH BECAUSE THERE MAY BE SOME REAL VIABLE OPTIONS WHICH RECORDED 2 DESIGNATIONS OF THAT WHAT WE SAID WOULD NOT THIS THEY CAN MAKE ALL THE OLD, BUT IT KEEPS OUR OPTIONS OPEN THERE RATHER THAN SOLVING IT US OR MAYBE 2 DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS FOR 7 A WORK FROM 7 TO BE I STILL FEEL WE YOU KNOW MAKE WHATEVER APPROPRIATE CO-PLAYER CHANGE WE NEED LIKELY FOR MEDIA ATTENTION TO THOSE ISSUES WE THAT WE SPECIFICALLY. CREATED AS A RESULT SO I'M KIND OF NOT SUPPORTIVE DROPPING 7 IF I CAN WEIGH IN. >> YES BY ALL MEANS. >> 7 B IS THE 60 ACRES IS PRIVATELY OWNED HAS NOT RIGHT THAT IS NOT PART OF THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT IT, 7 IS THE WATER REBUILD CERTAIN TO OKAY BY REMOVING 7 B. WE ARE STARTING WITH A CLEAN SLATE. THAT WE COULD DECIDE THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WHAT WHEN THAT TIME COMES. AND WE'RE JUST PUTTING 20 ACRES IN THE 60 ACRES AND PUTTING THEM BACK TOGETHER. STAFF HAS THE MAP THEY CAN SEPARATE AS NEEDED WHEN WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION BY REMOVING IT ENTIRELY WE'RE STARTING WITH A COMPLETELY CLEAN SLATE. >> A A. WAY TO DO IT WE CAN ALWAYS DIVIDED AGAIN WE DECIDE WE WANT TO GO TO DIFFERENT DIRECTION. SO WHAT DO IT DO IT I MEAN THAT SOLELY OKAY WELL WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION SO WE CAN VOTE VOTE ON THAT >> MOTION MAKER WAS COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL AND VICE MAYOR SECONDED SO WE'LL DO A VOICE ON THE AMENDMENT WHICH IS TO REMOVE 7 BE CORRECT. >> VICE MAYOR MAYOR IS PLANNING KNOW. DON'T JUST. COMMISSIONER AVERAGE. >> DOMINO. >> OKAY SO FOR IT. NOW WE'RE GOING TO THE MAIN MOTION. >> WHICH WAS REMOVE 70 MPH BURTON. >> IT'S ALL FOR SHOW. >> YEAH, YEAH. MOST COMMISSIONER DOWNSIDE. WE'RE ON THE MAIN MOTION NOW. >> TO REMOVE ACTIVITY CENTER 70 IN ITS ENTIRETY ON PAGE 13 CHART KEEPING ACTIVITY 7 ACTIVITY CENTER 7, 7, A OKAY. I >> YES. >> I MEAN NOW I'M GOING KNOW THEY DON'T YES. >> COMMISSIONER AVERAGE. >> KNOW. >> THOSE ARE 2 TO 3 SO THEY BOTH FAILED. ALL YES, STARTING TO GET A MONTH OR SO THAT SHOW UP. YEAH JUST TO CLARIFY PENSIONS OPT INTO AGAIN IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT TO MARGOT HOTEL IT'S AGAIN TO HAVE OPTIONS OPEN AND SO THAT WE DO GET TOGETHER AND TALK ABOUT PLANS THAT WERE NOT LIMITED IN WHAT CAN FIND BECAUSE WE DID SOMETHING AND WE NEED TO CHANGE SOMETHING WE CAN I. >> I AS A NUMBER OF TIMES OF THE CITY ATTORNEY AND EVERYBODY THAT THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS NOT WRITTEN SO IT CAN BE AMENDED AT ANY TIME SO IN THIS BUT COME BACK AND I THINK IT WOULD COME BACK WITH. >> SOME MORE. >> INSTRUCTION ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING ONCE WE HAVE A PLAN IT WILL MAKE MORE SENSE THEN CHANGE THE COMP PLAN TO ACCOMMODATE THAT PLAN BUT JUST TO CHANGE BECAUSE PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT I DON'T SEE THE POINT THAT, BUT IT DOESN'T ALREADY WON A BOWL. SORRY DO WE WANT TO TAKE A SHORT 5 OCEAN I I'M AND HE ON THAT. A MAKEUP GO AHEAD. I KNOW THAT I MOVED TO. >> DOT ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 0, 9, >> INCORPORATING THAT THE. >> WAS A MOTIONS THAT PAST. >> WE A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER MINDED TO ORDINANCE 2024. >> O 9 WITH TIP THAT YOU SAY TO AMENDMENTS. >> OR TO PRETTY CLEAR IT WAS A 2 OR 3 MOTIONS THAT PASSED ON THIS ITEM EVER AS AMENDED BY PREVIOUS MOTIONS AS AMENDED BY MOTIONS ALL ALL RIGHT SO THAT IS >> MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON AND THAT YOU VICE MAYOR. JUST MAKING SURE. ALRIGHT SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR THERE'S NOTHING ELSE WE'RE GOING TO GET. >> VOTE ON THAT VICE THERE'S YES MAYOR ZS MIND AND SAY YES MCDOWELL NOW. COMMISSIONER AVERAGE. I MEAN YES OKAY PASSES 4 TO ONE. MISTER MCDONALD WANT ANYTHING DIFFERENT ON THAT SO WE'RE INCORPORATING A COMP PLAN. >> THAT IS FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGING OUR CITY IS CHANGING OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. IT IS. POTENTIALLY WE DON'T KNOW. IT'S GIVING THE GREEN LIGHT FOR WARM MINERAL SPRINGS. AS IT IS ALREADY NOW STATED IN THE COMP PLAN. I CANNOT APPROVE THIS HIGH DENSITY OR INTENSITY. THAT WILL HARM EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS. AND IT REMOVES THE DESIGNATION OF RECREATION OPEN SPACE WHICH IN MY OPINION IS A VITAL COMPONENT OF A BALANCED CITY. REASONS I JUST CENTER. >> ALL RIGHT. WHAT IS THE 40'S, 3.43 WE DO HAVE A IN JANET PUT WHAT YOU WANT TO ABOUT WE JUST DO THE NEXT ONE WHICH MAN WITH AN TO OUR THIS IS GOING TO BE ONLY GOING TO BE A QUICK OKAY. OKAY. THOSE WORDS CAME IN A COMMISSIONER DALLAS NOW JUST PUSHING VOTE. YES QUESTION GET RIGHT TO >> ORDER NUMBER 2024 DASH 11 CITY CLERK AND YOU'RE RELEASED BY TITLE ONLY. >> ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 00:00AM MORNING TO THE CITY OF NORTH PORT FLORIDA RELATED TO THE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC ROAD, A ROAD IN THE CITY OF NORTH PORT FLORIDA SECTION 66 DASH 69, PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS PROVIDING FOR COMPLEX PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. A CITY THAT ARE THIS IS YOUR ITEM. >> THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR OF THE CITY COMMISSION HEARD ITEM PREVIOUSLY AT THE JUNE 2324 MEETING AND VOTED TO CONTINUE WHAT IS THAT WHAT REPORTING LIVE WITH THE SECOND READING THE DAY IN A REPORTER STATUTE SECTION 1, 6, DO CITY TIME WE POST IT. THIS IS IN FACT FOR THE DAY NEWSPAPER PUBLISH OF THIS, WE DID YESTERDAY THAT YOU APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 20 THE >> NOW MOVING ON TO COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS. >> YOU NOW. >> NOW IN PLACE. >> WE'RE >> TALKING ABOUT ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 11 RIGHT IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR PUBLIC WE HAVE MAKE A MOTION. OKAY. >> I FORTUNATE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND GO AHEAD COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL IF YOU'RE READY MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 2, 0, 2, 4, DASH 1 ONE HAS PRESENTED SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER DOWN TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 11 PRESENT IT AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON IF THERE'S NOTHING DO A VOICE. >> I MAY YES MAYOR ZS LANGDON SAY YES $6. YES. COMMISSIONER AVERAGE NUMBER YES, ALL RIGHT WHAT CAN WE DO THEM ALL LIKE THAT AS CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC ROAD THINK THERE WE GO NOW PASSES 5 TO >> KEPT THE SHALL I LIKE THAT GET ALL RIGHT SO NOW WANT TO TAKE A LITTLE NEXT. ONE IS YES WE NEED TO >> AND LEGAL TERM THIS MEETING AFTER THE ROAD AND DRAINAGE MEETING IS THAT THE MOBILE TIME CITY THIS. >> TO OKAY OKAY SO WE'RE GOING TO RECESS AS WE HAVE A ROAD AND DRAINAGE BEATING AT 4 O'CLOCK AND WE WILL RECONVENE. >> RIGHT AFTER THAT