ELEMENTARY BACK DIFFERENT STROKES WITHIN AND WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE TRYING TO SEE. YOUR CHILD TEST TO BEFORE IT BECOMES A CHALLENGE FOR THEM AT THAT POINT WHAT WE ASSESS THAT THAT WILL LET YOU KNOW AND YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND SIGN YOUR CHILD UP FOR THAT APPROPRIATE LEVEL THERE. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THESE SO THAT WAY WHEN WE'RE TEACHING A LEVEL ONE WE DON'T HAVE KIDS THAT SHOULD POTENTIALLY A LEVEL 2 AND LEVEL ONE CLASS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT LEARNING THE APPROPRIATE SKILLS THAT THEY NEEDED THAT POINT IN TIME RIGHT NOW WHEN WE'RE IN FULL SUMMER WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE COME BETWEEN 8.10 DEDUCE FROM EVALUATION JUST AS YOU CAN HEAR THE WATER SPLASHING IN THE BACKGROUND SLIDE. EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT ANY DAY OF THE THAT OPEN YOU CAN COME IN AT ANY POINT IN TIME ENOUGH FOR SOME EVALUATIONS WE ALWAYS HAVE A CERTIFIED SO MUCH DOCTOR ON SITE THAT HAVE YOUR CHILD TAKE A SWIM ASSESSMENT. ♪ >> I'M STACEY LASALLE AND THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY OF NORTH PORT AND I'M GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT HAVING AN EVACUATION PLAN IT'S A POINT HAVE AN EVACUATION PLAN AHEAD OF TIME AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO WRITE IT DOWN BECAUSE THAT WAY YOU HAVE IT SOMEWHERE PRESENT EVERYBODY IN YOUR FAMILY CAN SEE IT AND KEEP IT FRESH IN THEIR MINDS AND YOU ALSO SHARED WITH PEOPLE IN YOUR FAMILY OR YOUR NEIGHBORS SO THAT THEY KNOW WHAT YOUR PLANS ARE AHEAD OF TIME AND HOW TO GET A HOLD OF YOUR WAY TO LOOK FOR YOU AFTER A DISASTER FOR YOUR EVACUATION YOU SHOULD HAVE MULTIPLE ROUTES TO GET TO LOCATION. YOU'RE PLANNING TO GO TO JUST BECAUSE TRAFFIC WAS TRAFFIC ON 75 MIGHT BE GRIDLOCKED THERE COULD BE SOME VERY GOOD BACK ROADS TO GET TO WHERE YOU'RE GOING THAT COULD GET YOU THERE MORE QUICKLY WITHOUT BEING STUCK IN TRAFFIC WHEN YOU'RE MAKING EVACUATION PLAN. WE USUALLY TELL YOU 4 DIFFERENT THINGS YOU SHOULD STAY HOME IF YOU ARE NOT IN HIS OWN THAT'S BEING EVACUATED AND IF YOUR HOME IS BUILT TO WITHSTAND THE FORECASTED STORM IF YOU CAN STAY HOME. AND YOU EVACUATE YOUR NEXT OPTION SHOULD BE TO GO TO A FRIEND OUR FAMILY'S HOME THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THE EVACUATION AREA AND IT IS STRUCTURALLY SOUND TO US AND THE STORM 3RD OPTION WOULD BE GO TO A HOTEL. THEY'RE MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE THAN I BACK AWAY SHUNS CENTER'S 4TH OPTION WOULD BE TO GO TO ONE OF OUR EVACUATION CENTER SARASOTA COUNTY HAS FALLEN BACK AWAY SHUNS CENTER'S. THOSE CAN BE FOUND ON THEIR WEBSITE. >> WHY DO WE FLOOD. DURING SIGNIFICANT RAIN EVENTS PORT NEARLY ALWAYS FLOODS IN CERTAIN AREAS OF THE CITY. THIS IS THANKS TO THE LOCALLY NAMED MYAKKA HACHI CREEK ALSO KNOWN AS THE BIG SLEW WATERSHED. >> THE 195 SQUARE MILE DRAINAGE AREA FLOWS THROUGH DESOTO MANATEE AND SARASOTA COUNTIES THEN THROUGH OUR CITY TO EXIT AT CHARLOTTE HARBOR. AS THE CITY OF NORTH PORT IS LOCATED AT THE LOW END OF THE BIG SLEW WATERSHED DRAINAGE SYSTEM. THE CITY'S CURRENT FLOODING AND WATER QUALITY CONDITIONS ARE ATTRIBUTED NOT ONLY TO THE CITY'S GROWTH BUT ALSO TO UPSTREAM RUNOFF IN THE DESOTO MANATEE AND SARASOTA COUNTY PORTIONS OF THE BIG SLOW. DURING SIGNIFICANT RAIN EVENTS PONDING CAN ALSO OCCUR PONDING OCCURS AND LOW-LYING AREAS THAT ARE CHARACTERIZED BY POORLY DRAINED OR SUPER SATURATED SOILS WITH BACK-TO-BACK RAINFALL EVENTS THE GROUND IS TOTALLY SATURATED WHICH INCREASES THE RUNOFF DURING A STORM. THE CITY WORKS HARD TO MAINTAIN ITS STORMWATER CONVEYANCE SYSTEM WHICH IS COMPRISED OF ROADSIDE SWALES DRAINING INTO 79 MILES OF NAMED WATERWAYS. >> AND 132 MILES OF RETENTION DITCHES THAT INTERCONNECT WITH EACH OTHER AND WITH THE MYAKKA HACHI CREEK. THERE ARE 64 WATER CONTROL STRUCTURES OF WHICH 23 ARE GATED WATER CONTROL STRUCTURES 5 ARE GATED DROP STRUCTURES, 28 ARE FIXED. WE'RE STRUCTURES AND 8 ARE DROPPED STRUCTURES. THE CONTROL ELEVATIONS OF THESE STRUCTURES ARE DESIGNED SO THAT WATER IS RETAINED IN THE WATERWAYS AND A STEP-DOWN ELEVATION SYSTEM CONFIGURATION. >> THIS MEANS THE WATER LEVELS IN THE WATERWAY SEGMENTS BETWEEN STRUCTURES PROGRESSIVELY DECREASES ELEVATION FROM NORTH TO SOUTH AND FROM EAST TO WEST. THIS SYSTEM CONFIGURATION ALLOWS BOTH RETENTION OF STORM WATER RUNOFF FOR WATER QUALITY TREATMENT AND STORAGE FOR POTABLE WATER USE IN PREPARATION FOR A STORM, THE GATES ARE OPENED AS NEEDED TO CONVEY FLOODWATERS. >> THE CITY HAS AN ONGOING PROGRAM TO INSPECT AND REPLACE OLD CORRODED STRUCTURES SINCE 2006 13 OF THE HIGH PRIORITIES STRUCTURES HAVE BEEN REPLACED OR REHABILITATED THE CITY ALSO HAS A PROGRAM TO CLEAR THE DITCHES OF SEDIMENT DEPOSITS THAT HAVE ACCUMULATED OVER TIME. >> AND CLEAR FALLEN TREES AND DEBRIS IN THE MYAKKA. THAT. >> THAT. IT'S NOT O'CLOCK EVERYBODY SHE. YES ANYTHING. WE'RE >> OKAY IT IS MONDAY 5/6/2024. IT IS 09:00AM AND WE ARE IN THE CITY CHAMBERS AND I CALL THE CITY COMMISSION WORKSHOP TO ORDER. THIS MAY BE A HYBRID. MEETING THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PROPERLY NOTICED THAT WILL BE CONDUCTED AS A HYBRID MEETING, NOT REALLY SURE. BUT IF WE DO REQUIRE THE USE OF COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA TECHNOLOGY A PHYSICAL QUORUM OF VOTING MEMBERS IS PRESENT AND CITY COMMISSION CHAMBERS, A HYBRID MEETING ALLOWS VOTING MEMBERS TO ATTEND AND PARTICIPATE WITHOUT BEING PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN THE ROOM WITH WARM IS CONVENIENT. NOT REALLY SURE COMMISSIONER EMERICH IS UP THERE. HAD READ THAT ROLL CALL PRESENT OUR MYSELF MAYOR. WHY VICE MAYOR STOKES COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. AND COMMISSIONER LANGDON. DO WE HAVE MUCH. ON THE AIRWAVES FOR NOW BECAUSE HE WOULD HAVE TO READ THAT STATEMENT SO WE CAN COME BACK TO THAT. AND COME BACK TO THAT ALSO PRESENT WE HAVE CITY MANAGER FLETCHER CITY ATTORNEYS SLAYTON ASSISTANT CITY CLERK POWELL COURT SPECIALIST BOAT WERE. >> FIRE CHIEF TITUS IN HOUSE AND PLEASE CHIP GARZA OKAY. >> RATE I'M GOING TO CALL MISTER. >> ENGLISH TOO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE. AMERICA THAN WISH I GOT INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY JUSTICE FOR ALL. RIGHT GOOD JOB. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT NOW. >> I'M MOVING ON TO ITEM TO 24 DASH 0, 6, 3, 8, CITY MANAGER THIS IS YOUR ITEMS. >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR, AND THIS IS DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE DIRECTION REGARDING THE DRAFT OF UNITED LANDED CO CHAPTER 6. THAT'S RESOURCES. AND WE DO HAVE OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES WHO WILL LEAD YOU IN A PRESENTATION. >> GOOD MORNING LORI BARNES ASSISTANT RECTOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICE INC. AND THIS MORNING, I'M PRESENTING THE DRAFT UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CHAPTER 6 FOR NATURAL RESOURCES. FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATIONS STUFF ON CALL OF NATURAL RESOURCES MANAGER AND I ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. CHAPTER 6 NATURAL RESOURCES IS SEPARATED INTO 8 DIFFERENT ARTICLES OF COURSE, THE FIRST ARTICLE IS IN GENERAL AS WITH REMAINING CHAPTERS WE HAVE ARCHAEOLOGICAL AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION. THE CONSERVATION RESTRICTED OVERLAY ZONE WHICH APPLIES TO THE MYAKKA HACHI CREEK. ENDANGERED AND THREATENED SPECIES PROTECTION REGULATIONS. FLOOD DAMAGE PREVENTION REGULATIONS. MYAKKA RIVER WHICH HANDLES THE WILD AND SCENIC RIVER DESIGNATION FOR THE FLORIDA STATUTES. OUR TREE PROTECTION REGULATIONS AND WETLAND PROTECTION REGULATIONS. SECTION 1006.1 OUTLINES THE PURPOSE OF THE CHAPTER. >> THE CITY'S UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CURRENTLY DOES HAVE SOME ENVIRONMENTAL RELATED REGULATIONS BEFORE NOW WE HAVEN'T HAD A COMPREHENSIVE OF REGULATIONS. HANDLE PROTECTION OF OUR NATURAL RESOURCES WEVE GOT WETLAND PROTECTION REGULATIONS. THE CONSERVATION RESTRICTED SOME BUT NOT MUCH TOWARD PROTECTION OF OUR THREATENED AND ENDANGERED SO IF MY EVERYTHING AND ONE CHAPTER IN THIS REALLY SENDS A MESSAGE THAT THE CITY OF NORTH PORT IS FOCUSED ON. ALLEN SAYING PROTECTION OF OUR NATURAL RESOURCES, DEVELOPMENT. WE ALSO HAVE AND I WANT TO MAKE MENTION THAT THIS PRESIDENT CHAPTER FOR U.S. TIED TO ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCES. AS OUR CONSERVATION. CONTACTS SENSITIVE SITE DESIGN REGULATIONS THAT ARE IN CHAPTER 4. CHAPTER FOR THE CONTACT SENSITIVE SIDE TO SIDE. ACTUALLY OUTLINES A PROCESS FOR DESIGNING THE SITE. SO MANY DEVELOPERS OBTAIN THEIR SURVEY AND THEY IMMEDIATELY BEGAN OUTLINING THEIR SIGHTS WITHOUT CONSIDERATION OF ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCES NATIVE HABITATS THREATENED SPECIES. SO THIS OUTLINES THE EXPECTATION FROM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE HAS TO CITE THE WE WANT TO SEE TYPE GRAPHICAL SURVEY OBTAINED AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL REPORT OBTAINED PRIOR TO THE. INITIATION OF A CONCEPT PLAN THAT WAY THEY CAN KEEP THEIR THEY CAN KEEP THE ENVIRONMENT IN MIND AS THEY ON THEIR SIDE. ANOTHER ITEM THAT IS AND THE CONTACTS SENSITIVE SITE DESIGN REGULATIONS AS A PROVISION FOR A MINIMUM PRESERVATION OF 15 TO 25% OF ON-SITE NONINVASIVE TREATS. I THINK WE ALL NOW WHEN THE TREE PROTECTION REGULATIONS WERE ADOPTED THE SPRING OF 2022. THE INTENT WAS TO PROVIDE FOR PRETTY PROTECTION AND PRESERVATION. UNFORTUNATELY THE RESULTS WAS THAT THE DEVELOPERS. HAVE NO QUALMS ABOUT OPENING UP THEIR CHECKBOOKS IN CONTINUING TO CLEAR CUT SITES. SO THIS WILL PROVIDE SOME BALANCE BETWEEN TREE REMOVAL AND DEVELOPMENT. YOU WILL FIND. THROUGHOUT THE SLIDES. SOME REPETITIVE THEMES, I'M ONE OF THEM IS ELIMINATION OF UNNECESSARY WE'RE IN THE MESS. LOGICAL ORDER INCORPORATION OF TABLES FOR EASE OF USE AND UNDERSTANDING AND ELIMINATION OF CONFLICTING PROVISIONS WITHIN THE REGULATIONS THEMSELVES. AND ARTICLE WON WE HAVE A CLEARER APPLICANT ABILITY STATEMENT WHICH OUTLINES THAT THESE REGULATIONS APPLY TO ALL DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY THAT'S NOT OTHERWISE EXCEPT. PER CHAPTER ONE AND CHAPTER 2. IT SPECIFIES THE TYPES OF REVIEWS. THAT ARE SUBJECT TO THE NATURAL RESOURCES. STAFF REVIEWING THE PLANS THAT COME AND INCLUDE WANTED REMIND ALL AND ON LOTS AS WELL AS SUBDIVISIONS MAJOR SITE PLANS WHICH LEARN WHICH WE'RE NOW CALLING SITE DEVELOPMENT AND INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN. IT REMAINS THE TREE PROTECTION FUND AN EXPANSE THE ALLOWABLE USES PROBLEM THAT THE CITY COMMISSION IF THEY WISH TO APPROVE PURCHASE OF ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE LAND. A MOTHER FOR PREP PRESERVATION ON OUR SUSTAINABILITY PROJECTS SUCH FLOOD 10 YOU ATION. THE CITY COMMISSION WILL BE ABLE TO AUTHORIZE THOSE PURCHASES WITH THE TREE TOPS. AND ARTICLE 2 ARCHAEOLOGICAL AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION WHICH WAS FORMALLY CHAPTER 58, WE'VE SEPARATED THE PROVISIONS FOR ARCHAEOLOGICAL SITES AND HISTORIC BUILDINGS. WITH WITH CLARIFIED THAT A CULTURAL RESOURCE ASSESSMENT IS ALWAYS REQUIRED FOR A SITE THAT IS LISTED AND FLORIDA MASTER'S SIDE AISLES AND PROVIDES STAFF LATITUDE TO REQUIRE CAN TAKE YOU A SITE THAT MIGHT NOT BE LISTED. WE HAVE LIMITED HISTORIC BUILDING REGULATIONS TO CITY OWNED BUILDINGS ONLY WITHOUT A LOCAL LANDMARK OR LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT. ENFORCEMENT OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION REGULATIONS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS IS PROBLEMATIC. A CHAPTER 9 OF THE CURRENT ULDC INCLUDES REGULATIONS FOR THE CONSERVATION RESTRICTED OVERLAYS ALSO INCLUDE SOME LIMITED MANATEE PROTECTION REGULATIONS WHICH WE'VE MOVED TO THE ENDANGERED THREATENED SPECIES CHAPTER. THERE IS A MAP REFERENCE. AND THIS ARTICLE. THE DAMAGE IS NOT IN YOUR DRAFT. AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS. THE CONSERVATION RESTRICTED OVERLAYS I WAS NEVER PROPERLY NOT. IT WAS HAND DRAWN OVER IN 1981 FEMA FLOOD MAP. BOUNDARIES OF THE CONSERVATION RESTRICTED OVERLAY SOUND AS STRONG DID NOT REALLY LINE WITH THE TEXT AND THE REGULATIONS OVER WORKING ON REFINING NOT AND THE FINAL VERSION POT T WILL INCLUDE THE MAP BASED ON THE CURRENT FLOOD ZONES. AND THE CITY. AND THE SOUTH MYAKKA HACHI CRITIC MYAKKA RIVER AREA FROM THIS PARTICULAR ARTICLE UNDER THE CURRENT ULDC AND MENTIONS THIS AREA BUT IT IMMEDIATELY. MAYBE UTLEY APPLIES THE WETLAND PROTECTION REGULATIONS FOR THIS PARTICULAR AREA. AND THEN JORDAN THREATEN SPACES REGULATIONS AS I MENTIONED BEFORE WE DIDN'T HAVE COMPREHENSIVE SPACES PROTECTION REGULATIONS PRETTY MUCH ALL BACK TO THE STATE REQUIREMENTS, ESPECIALLY FOR OVER TOWARDS SPARKED THE MANATEE PROTECTION REGULATIONS AND THE CURRENT ULDC DID NOT ALIGN WITH THE COUNTY WIDE MANATEE PROTECTION PLANS WHAT STRAPPED FRONT OF YOU. >> THAT'S ALIGNED PROPERLY WITH REGULATIONS. WE DID TO SIGN THE DRAFT TO A BULL WOULD REPETITION OF FEDERAL AND STATE PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS AND CODIFICATION OF ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESSES. AND I'M JUST A NOTE DEVELOPMENT AS MENTIONED MULTIPLE TIMES IN THIS ART AND THIS CHAPTER AND IT IS DEFINED AND THE IMPACT WILL INCLUDE ALL TYPES OF EARTH UNDER BRUSH. CLEARING ETC. CHAPTER 17 UNDER THE CURRENT ULDC ADDRESSES DAMAGE PREVENTION REGULATIONS. IS BASED ON FEMA'S MODEL PLOT ORDINANCE FEMA DID REVIEW THE CHANGES THAT WERE BROUGHT FORWARD TO YOU FEBRUARY MARCH THIS YEAR. AND THEY HAVE REVIEWED THE FOREMAN AND HENRY NUMBERING PROPOSED IN THE ULDC REWRITE. BECAUSE FEMA VERY PARTICULAR FOLLOWING THEM ON A FLIGHT ORDINANCE WE WOULDN'T RECOMMEND ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO THIS ARTICLE. MYAKKA RIVER PROTECTIONS REGULATIONS FORMALLY CHOPPER, 57 OF THE ULDC. A LOT OF COMMON THEMES LOGICAL ORDER UNNECESSARY WEARING MASK. AGRICULTURAL EXEMPTION STATEMENTS WHICH ARE PROVIDED FOR CHAPTER ONE FOR THE ENTIRE ULDC. WE APPROACH THIS WITH ALLOWABLE ACTIVITIES RATHER PROHIBITIONS WHICH NOT OF THE CURRENT REGULATIONS AND WE ALSO CLARIFIED NON WATER DEPEND THEM ASSESS RESTRUCTURE SET AT WHICH WERE NOT THEREBY THEY WOULD FALL BACK TO. REGULAR REAR SETBACK REQUIREMENTS FOR SINGLE FAMILY. SO WE MADE SURE THAT WE INCORPORATED 100 FOOT SETBACK OR ANYTHING THAT'S NOT A BOAT LEFT THAT THAT HERE AT CETERA. TREE PROTECTION THE BIG TAKEAWAY FOR THAT SINCE WE'VE INCORPORATED OPTION FOR ENVIRONMENTAL MITIGATION FEE FOR SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS. IT'S SECRET OUR SINGLE FAMILY LOTS THAT ARE ON. SEPTIC, ESPECIALLY REQUIRE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF FELT THE PRODUCT THAT MAKES PRESERVATION OF TREES DIFFICULT. THIS WILL BE AT THE OPTION OF THE PROPERTY OWNER OF THE CONTRACTOR RATHER THEM. ENGAGING SOMEONE TO COMPLETE A TREE SURVEY AND HOW TALL THE MEDICATION POINTS. THEY CAN PAY A FLAT FEE OF $8,000. NOW OF COURSE THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY HERITAGE TREES THAT MIGHT BE FOUND ON SITE NATURAL RESOURCES STAFF WILL STILL VISIT EACH SINGLE-FAMILY PROPERTY AND IF THERE'S A HERITAGE TREE ON SITE TO WORK WITH THE PROPERTY ON CONTRACTOR TO PRESERVE TREE IF POSSIBLE, AND IF NOT THEY'LL PAY THE ADDITIONAL HERITAGE TREE OVER AND ABOVE THE ENVIRONMENTAL MEDICATION CAN A WETLAND PROTECTION REGULATIONS FORMALLY CHAPTER 49. WE ADDED MORE DETAIL DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL REQUIREMENTS AND WE HAD A DIFFERENTIAL OFFER WITH ITS REQUIREMENTS FOR THE DIFFERENT WETLANDS CLASSES. UNDER THE CURRENT RISE, IT'S A 25 FOOT. WHAT LIMBAUGH FOR AREA DOESN'T MATTER THE QUALITY OF THE WET MONTH. SO WE'VE INCORPORATED DIFFERENTIAL REQUIREMENTS FOR JURISDICTIONAL CONNECTED WETLANDS, NOT ISOLATED WETLANDS AND ISOLATED WETLANDS. WE'VE ALSO INCLUDED MORE DETAILED EROSION CONTROL AND SEDIMENT ALL REQUIREMENTS. WE ADDED EXEMPTION SECTION THAT. THAT ALIGNS WITH STATE REQUIREMENTS OR STATE ALLOWED SINCE FOR EXAMPLE ACTIVITIES AND USES AND THE WETLANDS THIS TREND. WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS YOU MAY HAVE AMOUNT OF MAYOR OF LIKE TO RESERVE SOME TIME ONCE THE DISCUSSION IS STRONG SO THAT I CAN GIVE YOU AN UPDATE OF THE NEXT STOPS ON THE ULDC OKAY TO BE DONE. YES ON IT. >> JUMP TO THAT WE HAVE COMMISSIONER AND RICH UP THERE SO HE'S GOING TO READ HIS STATEMENT WHEN YOU'RE READY. >> MAYOR I'M SORRY I HAD SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES GETTING ON THIS HAS AUTHORIZED BY THE CITY COMMISSION POLICY NUMBER 2021 DASH 10. I AM ATTENDING. THE HYBRID. THE HYBRID MEETING COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA TECHNOLOGIES EXPERIENCING A MEDICAL CONDITION, INCLUDING MANY DISABILITIES PRESENTING ME FROM ATTENDING IN PERSON AT THIS TIME, THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU SO I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE USE OF CMT FOR MOVED. ALL RIGHT I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE USE OF CMT FOR THIS HYBRID MEETING MADE BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON AND SECONDED BY VICE. >> MAYOR STOKES WE WILL DO A VOICE. VICE YES. THEY ARE WHY DOES THE U.S.. COMMISSIONER LANGDON YES. >> YES. >> AND COMMISSIONER ELRICH. >> YOU HEAR NOW. >> COMMISSIONER EMRICH YES. >> THANK YOU ALL RIGHT SO THAT PASSES 5 TO 0. WE CAN GET BACK TO. OUR MEETING HERE COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. >> YEAH I SUBMITTED A WHOLE BUNCH OF QUESTIONS. I APPRECIATE STAFF GETTING I WILL FOCUS ON THE ONES THAT REQUIRE COMMISSION CONSENSUS AND THEN A FEW OTHER THINGS THAT FEEL WE MAY NEED TO HAVE A COMMISSION DISCUSSION ON. >> THE VERY FIRST ONE THAT STOOD OUT WAS THE FACT THAT THE TREE FUND WHICH IS GOING TO BE RENAMED, I'M GRATEFUL FOR THAT NEW NAME WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT. POSSIBLY BEING RENAMED IN THE PAST TO AN ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION FUND. WHEN I READ IT IT SAYS FUND. I'M SORRY THIS FUN SHALL BE USED TO SUPPORT THE OPERATIONS OF THE NATURAL RESOURCES DIVISION AND FOR. OF WIRING LAND OF SENSIBILITY SUSTAINABILITY PROJECTS. PLANTING OF TREES IN PUBLIC PLACES MAINTAINING THOSE TRUTH. AND ALSO TREE EDUCATION. WE WHEN WE DID THE NATURAL RESOURCE DIVISION WE SAID THAT WE WILL. THE NATURAL RESOURCE DIVISION STAFF WITH THAT REFUND MONEY BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO USE MAKE IT SUSTAINABLE AT THAT REFUND WOULD NOT BE USED FOR NATURAL RESOURCE STAFFING. AND ALL OF EVERYTHING THAT'S RELATED TO THE NATURAL RESOURCE. SO WHEN I SAW THAT IT SHALL HE USED TO DO THE OPERATIONS OF THE NATURAL RESOURCE. I IMMEDIATELY SOUGHT WE NEED TO MAKE BECAUSE THERE MAY COME A TIME WHEN DEVELOPMENT STOPS OR SLOWS DOWN CONSIDERABLY THAT IT MAY NOT BE SUSTAINABLE. AND. I JUST WANTED TO OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION WITH MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS BECAUSE. I I I AM STICKING TO THE POINT OF WHEN WE DID THE NATURAL RESOURCE TO MISSION THAT IT WOULD NOT BE FULLY SUSTAINED WITH THAT REFUND MONEY THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO COME UP WITH A PLAN. SO THAT'S MY FIRST ONE THAT I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS ON. COMMISSIONER LANGDON DR. >> SOMETHING FOR YEAH I RECALL THAT ALSO I THINK WE HAD TALKED AGAIN NO DECISIONS MADE BUT. IN DISCUSSION THAT PERHAPS THERE WOULD BE A SCHEDULE DECLINING INVESTMENT. OUT OF THAT TREE FUND TO FUND THE DIVISION SO HOWEVER, WE ACCOMMODATE THAT AND LANGUAGE I THINK A SPEAK MYSELF THAT WAS SORT OF MY INTENTION. THAT OVER TIME THAT THIS GROUP WOULD BECOME SELF-SUSTAINING OR FUNDED THE GENERAL FUND HAVE TO FIGURE >> YES MA'AM I'M. OBVIOUSLY THIS IS THE DRAFT AND IT'S SOMETIMES OUR MEMORIES DON'T SERVICE AS WELL AS WE WOULD LIKE THEM TO STOP DOESN'T HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT CHANGING SHALL TO MAY AND REGARDS TO AWNING NATURAL RESOURCES DIVISION. DON'T NEED TO HAVE CONSENSUS ON UP A FINAL DRAFT WILL INCLUDE MAY. >> AND PERSONALLY I DON'T THINK APPROPRIATE AND WE WILL THIS PEST FUNDING SHOULD REQUIREMENTS, APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL BRINGING THAT UP. COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. >> YEAH THAT THE ONLY REASON WHY I DID BRING IT UP THIS BECAUSE WHEN I POSED THIS QUESTION. STAFF SAID THAT THEY NEEDED A COMMISSION CONSENSUS. WELL THEY'RE GOING TO CHANGE IT SO THAT THAT'S GOOD UNLESS THERE'S NOBODY ELSE WILL THAT YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT JUST THAT I MEAN I NO PROBLEM CHANGING THE LANGUAGE ON GOOD THAT'S YOU KNOW STAFF THINK AARON THAT WAS CONSENSUS, THE ONE THING I POINT TO TO US. >> IT MIGHT NOT BE SUCH A BAD IDEA THAT YOU KNOW ANNUALLY WE ACTUALLY DO LIKE STAFF ACTUALLY PREPARES A TRIMMING FUND WE'RE GOING TO CALL IT A BUDGET. SO WE CAN SEE WHERE THOSE DOLLARS PROJECTED FOR THE NEW YEAR GOING TO GO HOW MUCH OF IT IT WILL BE A DECLINING PROCESS OVER A PERIOD OF YEARS TO WEAN OURSELVES OFF OF THAT HOPEFULLY OBVIOUSLY SOMEWHERE TAX DOLLARS ARE GOING TO PAY FOR THIS DEPARTMENT. YOU KNOW SO SO IT'S IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A QUESTION OF WHO WOULD BE NICE FOR US THAN WE DID SEE HOW MANY DOLLARS A MONTH AGO ACTUALLY PLANTED DOLLARS ARE GOING TO OVER AN ADMINISTRATION THAT'S SOMETHING. WOULDN'T BE FAIR TERRIBLY COURT. I DON'T THINK TO DOING IT CERTAINLY WOULD. SHOT A LITTLE SUNSHINE ON WHERE DOLLARS ARE GOING THAT'S ALL. >> I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE ACTUAL WE'RE CALLING IT SOMETHING ELSE NOW IS THAT GOING TO BE LISTED AS SEPARATE. BECAUSE I KNOW IN THE PAST IT WAS ALWAYS SOME ISSUE ABOUT. IT WASN'T REALLY A TREE FUND IT WAS PART AND ACCOUNTING IT WAS JUST PART OF SOMETHING ELSE GOING TO BE ITS OWN SEPARATE. FUND NOW OR IS IT GOING TO BE PART OF. >> I MEAN WE WILL DEFINITELY WORK WITH FINANCE ON OUR PREFERENCE CURRENT THAT REFUND TO BE A SEPARATE REVENUE ON WE THINK IT'S MORE TRANSPARENT AND PROVIDE IS TRACK AND AND YES, DEFINITELY COMMISSIONER STOCKS WE WELL AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS EVERY YEAR BE PROVIDING ACCOUNTING OF HOW WE ARE ATTEMPTING TO WEAN OFF NATURAL RESOURCES FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCE POND. WE WILL NOT BE CAPABLE OF DOING THAT THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF THE GENERAL WE'LL CONTINUE INVEST IT IN WHICH WE CAN PROVIDE FOR THE NATURAL RESOURCES DEPARTMENT GETTING TOO CLOSER TO A SELF FUNDING OR SELF AND PLUS GENERAL AND THE FUTURE. >> I THAT'S GREAT I'M REALLY GLAD TO HEAR THAT IS THAT PAT. SOME EXPERIENCE IN THE PAST TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT WAS IN THAT RACE AND HOW IT WAS USED AND THAT'S WHEN I LEARN HOW MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE. HOW IT'S CLASSIFIED IN ORDER TO GET IT LIKE YOU SAID SEEING HOW IT'S BEING IS THIS PEOPLE CAN SAY EXACTLY THAT IT'S BEING USED FOR WHAT WE'RE INTENDING TO BE USED FOR SO I APPRECIATE THAT. DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE. ALLEN THINK AS OTHER. >> YEAH, I JUST WANT TO WEIGH IN THERE IS A TREE FUND I THINK THROUGH COUNT ONE 25 DON'T HOLD ME TO THE ACCOUNT NUMBER. ALL THE FEES IT'S IN THE CODE IN THIS IS A GREAT SEGUE TO MY NEXT QUESTION IN THE EXISTING CODE 4513 IT SAYS ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS FEES PENALTIES COLLECTED AS PART OF ENFORCEMENT OF THIS ARTICLE WHICH IS THE TREE CODE. SHELL BE PLACED IN THE CITY'S TREE FUND. IT'S FUN SHALL ONLY BE USED FOR THE PURPOSES OF TREE EDUCATION, ACQUIRING PLANTING AND PROTECTING TREES AND REQUIRING IN PRESERVING LAND WITHIN THE CITY. ANY MITIGATION FEE HANG ON I'M GETTING GETTING TO THE GOOD PART OF IT. ANY MITIGATION BE IMPOSED BY THE HEARING OFFICER SHALL BE DEPOSITED INTO THE TREE FUND THAT SENTENCE IS MISSING FROM THIS CO. THE FUNDS SHALL BE ADMINISTERED BY THE CITY'S FINANCE DEPARTMENT IT IS ALREADY A SEPARATE FUND AND IT'S ALREADY TRACKABLE. SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT THIS IS ALREADY BEING DONE. BUT THE SENTENCE OF ANY MITIGATION FEE IMPOSED BY THE HEARING OFFICER. THE HEARING OFFICER IS DIFFERENT THEN. WHAT I'M READING IN THIS CODE. CONSERVATION POINT ANY MITIGATION THAT WOULD BE DEPOSITED INTO THE NEW TREE FUND AGAIN. BUT IF RING OFFICER FINES. COMPLIANCE WITH THE CODE. THOSE FUNDS ALSO NEED TO BE DEPOSITED INTO THIS ACCOUNT AND IT MAY BE UNDERSTOOD THAT THE HEARING OFFICER HEAT ISSUES, ANY PENALTIES OR FEES. IT'S UNDERSTOOD THAT IT WOULD GO INTO THIS TREE FUND I'M SORRY BUT NOTHING IS UNDERSTOOD UNLESS IT'S WRITTEN IN CODE. AND IT REALLY NEEDS IN MY OPINION NEEDS TO BE SPELLED OUT BECAUSE. I WOULD HATE FOR YEAR OR 2 FROM NOW AT THE HEARING OFFICER IMPOSED A PENALTY OR A FINE. FOR CLEAR CUTTING LAND WITHOUT A PERMIT TO THAT $15,000 AND THAT MONEY NOT AUTOMATICALLY BE PUT INTO THE ACCOUNT. SO I REALLY I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE IT'S THERE AND IT'S CLEARLY SPELLED OUT LIKE IT IS NOW IN OUR CODE. SO I AGAIN PROBABLY NEED TO GET A CONSENSUS FROM THE COMMISSION TO MAKE SURE THAT AND THE HEARING OFFICER MITIGATIONS AND PENALTIES AND FEES ARE ALSO BEING DEPOSITED. INTO THE STREET FIGHT. >> I'M SO THE PENALTIES FOR VIOLATION OF THE TREE PROTECTION REGULATIONS ARE PROVIDED FOR AND CHAPTER 2 OF THE CITY CODE. >> THAT CHAPTER CHAPTER DOES NOT SPECIFY THE LOCATION WHERE THOSE THESE. >> IMPOSED BY HEARING OFFICER WILL BE THE POSITIVE. BUT I THINK FOR OF USE AND UNDERSTAND FROM HEARING OFFICER PERSPECTIVE IF WE COULD INCORPORATE INTO THE CITY CODE PROVISIONS THAT THIS PASS THE INCREASED FINES FOR A VIOLATION OF TREE PROTECTION. DIRECTION TOO. DEPOSIT THOSE FUNDS INTO THE TREE PROTECTION. OR ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCES PROTECTION ON. THAT MIGHT BE A BETTER LOCATION RATHER THAN IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT WILL DEFER TO COMMISSION ON THIS. WE DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTION CLARIFYING CITY CODE OR OR AND THE TREE PROTECTION CHAPTER. >> THANKS FOR THAT. ARIF OCCASIONS SO COMMISSIONER, HOW ARE THE ONES WANT CONSENSUS FOR THAT I. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT THE MITIGATION FEE IS IN CHAPTER 2 OF THE CITY CODE. FOR PLANNING TO ADOPT THIS IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE I'M GOING TO SAY WITHIN 4 MONTHS JUST FOR THE HECK OF IT. BY THE TIME WE GET A CITY CODE BROUGHT TO IT MAY NOT BE IN TIME FOR THIS I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT FIXED HIM PUT IN HERE NOW THAT WOULD THEN. THERE'S A TIME WHEN I'M NOT HERE YOU GUYS WE NEED TO ADD THIS TO THE CITY CODE THEN WE CAN DO IT AT THAT TIME I THINK IT'S IMPERATIVE TO MAKE SURE IT'S IN THIS COLD NOW INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR SOME TIME ON CERTAIN DATE. I'M PUTTING IT INTO THE CITY'S CODE. >> COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL WE WON'T BE WAITING. >> THERE WILL BE COMPANION CODE AMENDMENTS COMING TO YOU ON THE SAME DATE. THE ULDC ADOPTION. THERE ARE THINGS IN THE IN THE CITY COUNT THAT WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE ULDC REWRITE WON'T A LINE. SO YOU WILL HAVE MULTIPLE ORDINANCES COMING AMENDMENT TO CITY CODE WHICH THE ADDITION OF THAT LANGUAGE IS AND THIS IS NOT BECAUSE WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON DRAFTING THOSE COMPANION CODE AMENDMENTS. >> WILL THIS BE INCLUDED IN THAT. THAT'S WRITING THAT DOWN LOOK FOR THIS AND THE OLDEST. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION AND THANK YOU COMMISSION WITHOUT BRINGING THAT OUT YEAH RIGHT PARKING. THAT YOU HAVE SOMETHING BUT SEEING HERE AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S OTHERS THAT WANT TO SPEAK SO TRY AND BE QUICK. IF YOU GO ONTO THE ARCHITECTURAL I'M SORRY ARCHAEOLOGICAL SIGNIFICANCE. THERE WAS THE VERY LONG RESPONSE FROM STAFF ABOUT. IT WILL GET A ONE IT SAYS SITE IDENTIFIED IN THE COMP I HAD SUGGESTED REMOVING IT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF SITES THAT CANNOT BE DISCLOSED BECAUSE THEY'RE EXEMPT FROM FLORIDA STATE STATUTE. ♪ >> STAFF GAVE A VERY ♪ >> LONG REASON AND THEN ULTIMATELY SAID HEY YOU NEED COMMISSION CONSENSUS. AND I'D LIKE TO HAVE STAFF KIND OF. SUMMARIZE. >> THAT AND PUT IT IN REALLY SIMPLISTIC >> I'M SO THE FLORIDA STATUTES TO ADDRESS PUBLIC RECORDS EXEMPTIONS FOR ARCHAEOLOGICAL SITES. HELP I THE STATES ARE HOW I HAD THE VISION OF NATURAL RESOURCES. THERE. THERE SEEMS TO THEM A LOT OF MISUNDERSTANDING REGARDING THE PUBLIC RECORDS EXEMPTION ARCHAEOLOGICAL SITES IN THE PAST. IT IS LIMITED TO STATE HEALTH. NUMBER ONE NUMBER 2, WHICH YOU WILL SEE SHORT ORDER THE REFERENCES ANY PARTICULAR SITES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ARE LIMITED. WE MENTIONED WARM MINERAL SPRINGS WE MENTIONED LITTLE SALT SPRINGS. SO WE DON'T SPECIFICALLY MENTION ANY STATE HOUSE ARCHAEOLOGICAL SITES. IN THE CONTRACT. >> ALL RIGHT SO THANK YOU FOR I ADDED ICE SUGGESTED WE ADD A NUMBER 3. TO THAT SAME SECTION BECAUSE IT TALKS ABOUT SITES THAT ARE LISTED ON THE NATIONAL REGISTRY OF HISTORIC PLACES. AND I SUGGESTED THAT WE ADD THE CITY OF NORTH PORT'S LOCAL REGISTRY OF HISTORIC SITE AND STRUCTURES WHICH WAS APPROVED BY THIS COMMISSION IN 2017 THAT WE DO HAVE A LOCAL REGISTRY. OF THESE HISTORICAL SITES. STAFF SAID IT'S REALLY NOT NECESSARY BECAUSE. THERE'S NOT THAT MANY LOCAL REGISTRIES. BUT THEN WHEN I WENT AND READ THE REST OF THE COMMENTS. WHEN I SAID THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME PRIVATE OWNERSHIP. SIGNIFICANCE STAFF SAID STEP DOES NOT RECOMMEND REGULATING PRIVATELY OWNED HISTORICAL BUILDINGS WITHOUT A VOLUNTARILY LOCAL LANDMARK DESIGNATION OF HISTORIC DISTRICTS. AND I KIND OF THOUGHT WELL ISN'T THAT THE SAME THING IS WHAT WE APPROVED AT RESOLUTION. WE HAVE WARM MINERAL SPRINGS MOTEL COMING ONLINE. IT IS A NATIONALLY REGISTERED SITE AT SOME POINT IN OUR FUTURE AND THE REASON WE. THE RESOLUTION BACK IN 2017 WAS. THERE ARE SITES IN OUR CITY THAT WOULD BECOME QUOTE UNQUOTE HISTORIC. AND IF WE DON'T START RECOGNIZING THOSE LOCATIONS. THEY'RE DOING TO FOR DESTRUCTION FOR RAISING. MANY CITIES THROUGHOUT FLORIDA HAVE HISTORICAL CE LOCATIONS THAT ARE NOT ON THE RECORD STRAIGHT FOR NATIONAL RECOGNITION, BUT WE DO RECKON THEY DO RECOGNIZE AND LOCALLY AND I REALLY THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP OUR LOCAL REGISTRY INTACT AND THAT SHOULD BE ADDED TO THIS LIST STAFF IS LOOKING FOR CONSENSUS AND SO MY TO KEEP THAT IN PLACE. SO ACT. >> THE LANGUAGE AND THE CURRENT CODE. >> PROVIDES FOR A LOOP. I YOU KNOW UNILATERAL DECISION ON THE PART OF THE CITY ADMINISTRATION TO DETERMINE THAT THESE SIDE SHOULD BE ADDED TO THE NATIONAL REGISTRY. IT DOES PROVIDE FOR APPEAL. THERE'S YOU KNOW THERE'S SOME DUE PROCESS ISSUES HERE FOR A CITY ADMINISTRATION TO UNILATERALLY DETERMINE SITE SHOULD BE CONSIDERED HISTORIC AND SUBJECT TO REGULATIONS. IF YOU LOOK OTHER CITIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE, ESPECIALLY THOSE WITH. THAT WORK AND COOPERATE IN THE 1800'S, IT CETERA ET CETERA. THEY LOCAL AS NATION'S. >> TREATS >> HISTORIC PROPERTIES, SIMILARLY TO THE STATE OR NATIONAL REGISTER, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT NATIONAL REGISTER. WHERE IT'S VOLUNTARY IF SOMEONE WANTS THEIR PROPERTY TO BE RECOGNIZED AS A HISTORIC SITE. THE CITY COULD ESTABLISH A LOCAL LANDMARK PROGRAM THROUGH WHICH THOSE SITES COULD BE DESIGNATED THROUGH A PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS VOLUNTARILY A VOLUNTARY APPLICATION ON HEART. WE HAVE OF THE OWNER. MANY PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED HAVING DESIGNATION HAVE IMPACT PLACED ON THEIR PROPERTY AND WILLINGLY. SUBJECT THEMSELVES TO REGULATIONS THAT WOULD LIMIT THE EXTERIORS MODIFICATIONS TO THEIR PROPERTY. IF THAT'S SOMETHING THE COMMISSION WHICH IS TO CONSIDER I WOULD RECOMMEND WE INCORPORATED IN THE CITY CODE THAT WOULD BE A CHANGE THAT WHAT HAPPENED DOWN THE ROAD. A VOLUNTARY DESIGNATIONS OF HISTORIC DISTRICTS. A HISTORIC DISTRICT COULD BE F JUST ONE PROPERTY OWNER AND THE DISTRICT WISH TO PURSUE THAT DESIGNATION AND THEN AGAIN THERE WOULD BE DUE PROCESS THROUGH PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR THAT DESIGNATION TO BE APPROVED AND THERE WOULD BE PUBLIC INPUT INVOLVED. SO THAT THAT IS WHERE WHERE STAFF IS LEANING ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS. WE DO AGREE THAT WE SHOULD PRESERVE HISTORIC PROPERTIES TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE, BUT WE'D LIKE TO DUE PROCESS. THAT AND THE FOREFRONT. SO THAT WE ARE MAKING DECISIONS WITHOUT PROPERTY OWNER AND PUT IT AND LEAVING THAT I'M IN A POSITION WHERE THEY ARE REQUIRED TO PAY A FEE AND MAKE AN APPEAL TO THIS BOARD WHEN THEY WEREN'T EVEN INVOLVED IN THE INITIAL DECISION BEGIN WITH. >> OKAY COMMISSIONER OKAY WITH THAT PARTICULAR. >> REALLY THINK WE NEED TO INCLUDE LOCAL REGISTRY OF HISTORIC SITES IN THIS ULDC. AND AND ONCE IT'S INCLUDED IN THIS ULDC IN THE FUTURE. >> WHEN 18. >> PROPERTY OWNER COMES FORWARD. AND WANTS THEIR PROPERTY TO BE IT IT IT'S IT KIND OF BECOMES THIS PLACE HOLDER INSTEAD IN THE FUTURE WE MIGHT ADD. THERE'S A REASON THAT THE COMMISSION INSTITUTED THAT RESOLUTION BACK IN 2017. AND I REALLY DON'T WANT THAT TO BE LOST OR FORGOTTEN ♪ AND I REALLY THINK THE WAY THAT YOU PRESERVE THAT ACTION IS TO INCLUDE IT ♪ AND ADD A NUMBER 3 IN SECTION 2006.2. >> ALL RIGHT SO LET'S GO DOWN AND SAY WHAT. OUR FROM PAST THAT COMMISSIONER LANGDON. >> YEAH, I MEAN AT SOME THAT ARE SWIRLING HAVING JUST. >> COME BACK FROM A COUNTRY THAT MEASURE IS. >> AT 400 AD. I'M KIND STRUGGLING A LITTLE BIT. WITH THE DEFINITION OF A HISTORIC SITE. ASSUMING THERE IS ONE SOMEWHERE. AND THIS DOCUMENTATION DO WE HAVE A DEFINITION OF WHAT CONSTITUTES COULD SOMEONE REFRESH MY MEMORY. >> THAT RESOLUTION IMAGE. >> 50 YEARS OR OLDER. AND SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT ABOUT THE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES AND WEATHER. THEY ARE YOU KNOW ONE OF THE LAST REMAINING EXAMPLES REGION AND STATE OR NATION. >> WE HAVE ANY OF REALLY. >> THE 3 BUILDINGS AT WARM MINERAL SPRINGS. AND NOW THEY'RE CHILE, THE MOTEL POTENTIALLY THEM ALL. >> I'M ALSO TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND. >> WHY WOULD AN OWNER OF THE PROPERTY WANT TO HAVE THEIR PROPERTY. >> IDENTIFIED AS A HISTORICAL SITE. IT'S A PROCESS AND COST INVOLVED WHAT'S THE BENEFIT TO RECOGNITION. >> I CAME FROM A SMALL CITY BEFORE AND ALL ALL AROUND, BUT MY LAST POST BEFORE I CAME TO PORT WAS A SMALL CITY IN CENTRAL FLORIDA THAT WAS INCORPORATED IN THE WERE MULTIPLE PROPERTY OWNERS I CAN'T. YOU NUMBER OF MULTIPLE PROPERTY OWNERS WHO WANTED TO BE LISTED AS LOCAL LANDMARK. THEY THEY TOOK PRIDE AND THEIR PROPERTY AND THE WAY THEIR PROPERTY LOT. AND THEY LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING A PLACARD ON THEIR FRONT THAT RECOGNIZE THE AGE OF THEIR PROPERTY. AND THE FACT THAT THEY WERE WILLING TO ENSURE THAT ANY RENOVATIONS THAT I MADE WERE. >> CONSISTENT WITH THE ORIGINAL ARCHITECTURE OF THE PROPERTY. I MEAN IT IT YOU'D BE SURPRISED. THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE AND HISTORIC OUR ARE WANTING TO SHOWCASE UP. >> WHEN I APPLY THAT TO THE VERY SHORT LIST OF PROPERTIES IN OUR CITY THAT MIGHT QUALIFY AS HISTORICAL. I DON'T SEE THAT PRIDE OF PLACE. ANYWHERE NEAR THOSE PROPERTIES SO. AGAIN I'M JUST NOT SEEING THAT THIS REALLY APPLIES TO ANYTHING WE HAVE IN THE SENATE. >> AND 2. >> I DON'T KNOW TO PUT IN ADMINISTRATIVE STRUCTURE IN PLACE FOR 4 5 BUILDINGS. THAT ARE FALLING DOWN. I'M JUST IT DOESN'T COMPUTE MA'AM SORRY, SO. NOW THAT'S REALLY ALL I >> THERE. >> I'M BOTHERED A LITTLE BY DUE PROCESS ISSUE AND I JUST FEEL TOO LIKE I HATE THE THOUGHT OF LEGISLATING SOMETHING IF IT'S VOLUNTARY. YOU KNOW IF THEY PROPERTY STEP PROPERTY OWNERS, PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS. WOULD LIKE RENT, YOU KNOW TO CREATE A RECOGNITION MEAN THIS IT'S A TOPIC LIKE MAYBE YOU KNOW THAT IT IS STARK ADVISORY BOARD COULD LIKE GROUND COME UP WITH SOME THOUGHTS ON GIVE US SOME INPUT ON DON'T SEE THE NEED TO PUT THE THINK. IT'S. >> AND YOU KNOW PEOPLE COULD QUALIFY FOR FUNDING RENOVATION AND I JUST DON'T SEE NEAR VALUE OF THE BENEFIT. THE MOTEL FOR EXAMPLE. WANT TO PARTICIPATE. >> ALL RIGHT COMMISSIONER, EMRICH SHOULD YOU HAVE. SOMETHING YOU WANT AT >> THE MAIN THING ABOUT IT IS IS IS CAN YOU HEAR ME. YEAH, THE MAIN THING ABOUT THIS IS I BELIEVE STAFF GOT IT, YOU KNOW PRETTY MUCH NOW DOWN BUT IN THE FUTURE WE'RE JUST STARTING THIS PROCESS WE JUST ANNEX THE PROPERTY THE HOTEL AND DOWN THE ROAD YOU NEVER KNOW WHATS ORTIZ AREA ITSELF MIGHT BECOME A TOTAL DISTRICT AND THEN WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING WITH THAT DOWN THE ROAD BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S ANYTHING THAT'S PRESSING US RIGHT NOW WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED ABOUT THE BUILDINGS THAT SPREADS AND. MORE LIKELY THEY MAY NOT BE THERE BECAUSE OF FUNDING BUT WE'RE STILL TRYING AND WE'LL SEE THAT YOU KNOW LIKE LIKE I GO WITH THE COMMISSIONER LINE DID YOU KNOW I DON'T FORESEE IT BEING A A HUGE ISSUE RIGHT NOW AND I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE IT UP TO. YOU KNOW THE ENVIRONMENTAL DEPARTMENT AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO PUT LEGISLATURE DOWN TO FORCE PEOPLE INTO THIS DESIGNATION VOLUNTARY IS FINE. BUT AGAIN WE'RE GETTING INTO THE WEEDS ON THIS A LITTLE BIT TOO DEEP IS MY OPINION THAT THAT'S ALL I GOT ON AIR. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU AND I'LL JUST THE WAY IN THAT 50 YEARS THAT MEANS IF ABOUT SOMETHING BUILT IN 1974. >> OR BE ON WOULD QUALIFY AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THESE FEW COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS YOU KNOW PEOPLE SEE THE VALUE IN SOME OF OUR OLDER HOMES AS MIDCENTURY STYLE THAT. IS UP TO THEM IF THEY WANT TO EMBRACE THAT AND AND AND BUILD THAT UP AND AND FOCUS ON HAVE MENTIONED BEFORE I LOVE WATCHING THESE HOME IMPROVEMENT SHOWS AND 10 SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS THAT ARE DONE IN HISTORICAL DISTRICTS, THERE. RESTRICTED FROM DOING CERTAIN. MODIFICATIONS BECAUSE. >> THEY PASSED THEIR HISTORICAL ARCHITECTURAL BOARDED IT DOESN'T STAND. >> COMMISSIONER EMERICH TO HAMSTRING PEOPLE THAT IF THEY'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH THE HOUSE THAT'S 50 YEARS OR OLDER, I'M TRYING TO GET IT. FIXED UP. SO THAT'S WHY MY TAKE ON THAT. >> THANK YOU FOR ALL THE CONTACTS WITH JUST GUYS KNOW HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE NATIONAL REGISTER. ALREADY PLACED PROPERTIES WHICH IS WARM MINERAL SPRINGS AND THE MOTEL THAT MORE FOR THE LOCAL REGISTRY. OF PLACES THAT PEOPLE SAY WOW YOU KNOW THIS WAS THE FIRST HOUSE BUILT HERE IN NORTH PORT JORGE. >> THIS ISN'T USED TO BE THE OLD CITY HALL. >> OR THE OLD POLICE STATION WAS A LOCAL REGISTRY. THAT FELT WAS NECESSARY TO CONTINUE HAVING AND FOR PRESERVATION SO WITH THAT I'LL MOVE SINCE THE CONSENSUS WAS GIVEN. IF YOU GO TO SECTION 2006.3. IT'S THE R P LOGICALLY SIGNIFICANT SITES. >> THE. >> LEVEL ONE IS A SITE THAT MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR LISTING. THE NATIONAL REGISTRY. AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HASN'T. PLACED ON THE NATIONAL REGISTRY THAT IT MEETS THE CRITERIA. THE LEVEL 2 INDICATES THAT THE SITE HAS THE POTENTIAL. AND SIGNIFICANCE TO RECOMMEND ADDITIONAL INVESTIGATION DURING CONSTRUCTION. I REALLY THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO ADD THE LEVEL 3. >> FOR APPROVED SITES THAT >> THE NATIONAL REGISTRY OF HISTORIC PLACES. BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY BEEN DEEMED AS HISTORICAL LEVEL ONE AND LEVEL 2 ARE LIKE FUTURE TENSE. SO WHEN I MADE THAT SUGGESTION TO STAFF THEY SAID THAT THEY WOULD NEED A CONSENSUS BECAUSE IT'S UNDERSTOOD THAT LEVEL ONE PROPERTIES ARE ALREADY INCLUDED ON THAT LIST OF THE NATIONAL REGISTRY. SINCE IT'S ALREADY MET THE CRITERIA. BUT WHEN YOU READ THE LANGUAGE OF LEVEL ONE. IT SAYS THE SITE MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR LISTING ON THE REGISTRY. BUT IT HASN'T BEEN RELEASED. ON THE REGISTRY. SO JUST BECAUSE IT MEETS THE CRITERIA DOESN'T MEAN THAT IS ALREADY ON THE REGISTRY AND I WANT TO PROTECT THOSE SITES. AND HAVE IT AS A LEVEL 3 AND JUST DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL FLY WITH MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS BASED ON THE PREVIOUS CONVERSATION, BUT. THERE ARE SITES THAT ARE ALREADY AND APPROVED IN OUR CITY. I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF WE SHOULD ADD A LEVEL 3. BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY THERE AND I DON'T SEE THE PROTECTIONS OF THOSE SITE. >> IT'S FARM CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT WHAT WOULD BE THE BENEFIT OF DOING THAT OR DIFFERENCE. >> I HAVE A I HAVE A COMPROMISE. COMPROMISES I'M OFFER THAT UP. >> WAY WE CAN MODIFY THE LANGUAGE OR LEVEL LONG. >> TO INCORPORATE. ALREADY LISTED OR MEETS CRITERIA FOR LISTING AND I THINK THAT WILL PROVIDE FOR A LESS COMPLICATED. SIDE OF REGULATIONS AND STILL COVER THE COMMISSIONERS AND SCOTT. LOVE IT. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER I WANTED TO HAVE OTHERS ABSOLUTELY WANT LET YOU FINISH, ROLE I REMIND WOMEN JUST I HAVE ONE MORE ON THE ARCHITECTURE THAT. >> THERE WAS AND SECTION 6.2 6 ITS DETERMINATION OF HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE. THERE'S BEEN A SIGNIFICANT FIRST ORACLE BUILDINGS. FOR CITY OWNED. >> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD SEE IF THERE IS A CONSENSUS BECAUSE STAFF SAYS ITS THEY DON'T RECOMMEND REGULATING PRIVATELY-OWNED HISTORICAL BUILDINGS. >> WITHOUT THE VOLUNTARY LOCAL DESIGNATION. BUT WE DO HAVE MANY IN PRIVATE OWNERSHIP WARM MINERAL SPRINGS WAS THE FIRST ONE TO COME MIND. WE ALSO HAVE NOTICED SPRINGS WHICH IS ALSO IN PRIVATE OWNERSHIP. REALLY NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROTECTING THESE BUILDINGS AND OR LOCATIONS. SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE STAFF IS NOW THAT I MENTIONED ABOUT SPRINGS. BECAUSE IT'S NOT ON THE REGISTRY. AND IT IS IN PRIVATE OWNERSHIP. JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE AND SEE WHAT STAFF RECOMMENDS. >> STAFF STANDS BY THE INITIAL OUR INITIAL OUR OUR POSITION IS PROVIDING FOR DESIGNATION OR REGULATION OF PRIVATELY OWNED PROPERTIES IS RESTORE IT, STANDING PROBLEMATIC WITHOUT DUE WE WOULD RECOMMEND AVOIDING. INCLUSION OF. REGULATING THOSE PRIVATE PROPERTIES AT THIS TIME. AND AGAIN COMMISSIONER COMMENTS. I THINK HAVING THE CULTURAL AND HISTORIC RESOURCES ADVISORY BOARD TAKE A LOOK AT THE POSSIBILITY OF INCORPORATING SOME SEPARATE REGULATIONS OR SEPARATE ALLOWANCES DENSITY CODE THAT WOULD PROVIDE FOR THAT HISTORIC NATION, ESPECIALLY AS THE CITY A CHANCE. YOU KNOW THAT THE TIME. NOW MAY NOT BE APPROPRIATE BUT EVENTUALLY WE DO WANT TO GET SOME CONSIDERATION TO. SOME OPTIONS FOR PROPERTY OWNERS. AS WE MOVE INTO THE FUTURE AND HAVE MORE AND MORE PROPERTIES OVER 50 YEARS OLD COMING ONLINE. >> OK I'M GOING TO MOVE ABSOLUTELY ♪ AND THEN WE CAN ALWAYS DO ANOTHER ROUND HERE WHICH ARE ALIGNED. >> YEAH, THANK YOU MAYOR, I JUST HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS I HAVE SOME OTHER COMMENTS BUT I ♪ >> THINK THEY BELONG LATER IN THE CONVERSATION. THROUGHOUT THE DOCUMENT FRIENDS AND UNLESS SOMETHING IS DECIDED BY SPECIAL EXCEPTION. >> WHO WOULD MAKE THOSE EXCEPTIONS AND SAID A COMMISSION GANG INCIDENT IN THE STRAIT, A THING. IT'S THROUGHOUT THE >> A SPECIAL EXCEPTION IS A PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS THROUGH WHICH THE PLANNING AND ZONING ADVISORY BOARD WOULD HEAR THAT RICK ROSS PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COMMISSION COMMISSION WOULD MAKE. >> THE FINAL DECISION OKAY GREAT, THANK YOU. >> IT WAS MENTIONED HERE THE MYAKKA RIVER PROTECTION ZONE. RIGHT NOW THE CITY HAS BEEN BUYING PROPERTIES ALONG THE CREEK. I THINK THAT CREEK WAS ALSO IDENTIFIED FOR PROTECTION ZONE. IS. >> WELL THIS REPLACE OR LIMIT. THE CITY BUYING THOSE PROPERTIES TOO. >> PREVENT DEVELOPMENT OR WE IDENTIFIED THAT THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN SHORT BUYING THOSE PROPERTIES THAT MAKE IT VERY UNATTRACTIVE TO DEVELOP THERE. >> SO CONSERVATION RESTRICTED WHICH IS CURRENTLY REGULATED AND THE ULDC APPLIES TO THE MYAKKA HACHI CREEK WHERE THE CITY HAS BEEN ACTIVELY PURSUING TIER ONE TIER 2 PROPERTY PURCHASES. THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND THE OUT THAT YOU'LL SEE COMING FORWARD, WE'VE ACTUALLY APPLIED A CONSERVATION FUTURE LAND USE AND ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION ZONING. SO THE PROPERTIES THAT THE ALONG THE MYAKKA HACHI CREEK. WE CANNOT APPLY DESIGNATION PRIVATELY ON PROPERTIES. THE AND THE DRAFT DO ME THOSE IN THE CURRENT REGULATIONS WHERE THE SINGLE-FAMILY CONSTRUCTION AREA IS LIMITED AND THE REQUIREMENT OR AND ANNA ROEBUCK SEPTIC SYSTEM. IT'S INCORPORATED FOR THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ARE DEVELOPABLE UNDER THE REGULATIONS. AS FAR AS THE MYAKKA RIVER PROTECTION ZONE. THERE'S A LIMITED NUMBER OF PROPERTIES IN THE CITY LIMITS THAT ARE WITH AND THAT RIVER PROTECTION ZONE. TO THE SOUTH. THE SOUTH SOUTHWEST. MUCH OF THOSE PROPERTIES ARE ALREADY UNDER CONSERVATION BUT THIS UP WEST FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. >> EARLIER IN THE PRESENTATION. YOU AND ENVIRONMENTAL MITIGATION THE OF $8,000 THAT WOULD REPLACE THIS IS ON SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. THAT PEOPLE COULD ACCESS INSTEAD OF FULL SURVEY COULD YOU EXPLAIN MORE. >> HOW AND WHEN THAT COULD BE APPLIED. >> IT WOULD BE OPTIONAL. >> AT THE REQUEST OF THE PROPERTY OWNER OR THE WE ARE FINDING THAT. >> THAT MITIGATION FEES. >> FOR SINGLE FAMILY CAN RANGE ANYWHERE FROM $2000 TO $15,000. THIS WOULD PROVIDE OPTIONAL APPROACH FOR THOSE DEVELOPERS. ELIMINATING THE COST AND THE TIME FOR A TREE SURVEY, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE ARE MITIGATION FEE. >> MAYBE. IN LINE WITH A FLAT FEE. AGAIN IT STILL PARTS. >> PROVIDES FOR PROTECTION OF THE HERITAGE TREES BECAUSE THE NATURAL RESOURCES STAFF WILL STILL VISIT EVERY SIDE. PROVIDES FOR STREAMLINED APPROACH FOR SOME MIGHT BE WILLING MIGHT BE WISHING TO AVAIL THEMSELVES OF THAT OPTION AND IT DOES. PROVIDE AGAIN A STREAMLINED APPROACH FOR THEM AND LESS INVESTMENT OF TIME AS FAR AS VERIFICATION OF TREE SURVEYS CALCULATION OF MITIGATION FEE IS CALCULATION OF CONSERVATION CREDITS ET CETERA. >> SO AGAIN, I'M TRYING TO PICTURE WHERE AN. >> SOMEONE WOULD WANT TO DO THAT THERE ARE SOME LOTS THAT ARE MOST WAY OVERGROWTH. >> AND A COUPLE OF DEAD PINE TREES LIKE WHEN WOULD THIS COME INTO PLAY HOW DO YOU SEE IT BEING USED NOW I'LL SPEAK TO HOW I SEE IT USED AND THEN MAYBE STUFF ON CAMPUS AS $0.2 I SEE IT WHERE YOU HAVE A SITE THAT IS HEAVILY WOODED. >> THAT INCLUDES A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF TREES THAT HAVE A DIAMETER CROSS TIE PROVIDES THAT THEY'RE PROTECTED TREES. >> AND WHERE THEIR MITIGATION FEE MIGHT ACTUALLY EXCEED THE $8,000 AND SO IT MAY BE IN THEIR BEST INTEREST TO AVOID THE COST OF THE SURVEY AT THE TIME INVOLVED AND SIMPLY CLEAR CUT THE PROPERTY RATHER THEM TRIED TO PROVIDE FOR PROTECTION OF TREES WHEN THEY'RE BRINGING FORTH ENOUGH ILL AND >> AND IF I STEPHEN KALIN, BETTER RESOURCES I WOULD SAY ANOTHER FACTOR WOULD BE. THE TIME SAVED FROM OBTAINING THE TREE SURVEY OR SIMPLY THE INABILITY A TREE SURVEY OR THE TIME. DESIRE SO THAT WOULD BE WHERE THIS OPTION COMING. >> SO THE CITY'S EXPECTATION WOULD BE THAT A DEVELOPER WILL LEAVE. TREES A TREE. OR TOO. >> AND AVAIL THEMSELVES OF THE 8,000 SIMPLIFIED PROCESS SET SO DID THE OUTCOME WE'RE SHOOTING FOR. RATHER THAN JUST HAVING THEM DO IN NEED CHAIR. WATCH CLEARING 15 K. >> WE'RE WE'RE ALWAYS SHOOTING FOR TREE PRESERVATION. >> BUT AGAIN. >> PRESERVING TREES WHERE YOU BRING IN UNIFIL THE PENDING ON THE LOCATION THINGS IN RELATION THAT PART OF THE HOME AND RELATIONSHIP TO THE EASEMENTS ON THE SWELL RATING THAT'S REQUIRED NATURAL RESOURCES. STAFF IS WORKING VERY HARD WITH THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY TO ENCOURAGE THE PRESERVATION OF TREES AND TO EDUCATE ON THE APPROPRIATE TREE PROTECTION ZONE, SO THAT THE TREES THAT THEY'RE IDENTIFYING TO BE SAY IT CAN ACTUALLY BE SAFE. BUT THEN WHEN WE BRING IN THE HEAT. YOU KNOW WHEN WE BRING IN THE CURRENT EXEMPTION FOR SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. WE ARE AND IF THEY HAVE A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR YEAR THEY CAN REMOVE EVERY TREE ON THEIR PROPERTY THAT THEY WISH TO. >> SO FAR WE'RE INVESTING A WHOLE LOT OF TIME. ENERGY STAFF TIME MINDING INTO PRESERVING THESE TREES ON THE SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS WHEN A YEAR LATER. A REMATCH THAT'S THE CURRENT REGULATIONS, BUT YOU SEE IN OUR CURRENT DRAFT, WE ARE PROPOSING THE REQUIREMENT FOR APPROVAL TO REMOVE TREES ON DEVELOP SITES. RIGHT AND THAT'S ONE THING THAT I DID FAIL TO MENTION THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING ADVISORY BOARD DID REVIEW THE NATURAL RESOURCE A CHAPTER ON MAY AND THEY DID RECOMMEND THE COMMISSION APPROVE CHAPTER 6. SOME ATTENTION GIVEN TO CONSIDERATION ABOUT SINGLE-FAMILY EXEMPTION. UNDER THE CURRENT CODE BEING CARRIED FORWARD. >> AND UNLESS I'M MISSING SOMETHING IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT WHAT THIS PROVISION WE'RE LETTING THE DEVELOPER IS OFF THE HOOK AND MISSING REVENUE. I I JUST DON'T I DON'T SEE THAT IT WILL CHANGE BEHAVIOR ARE OUTCOMES BY GIVING THEM A SIMPLIFIED PROCESS AND A $1000. I I MUST BE MISSING SOMETHING. >> I THINK YOU KNOW ONE OF THE CONSIDERATIONS AS THE AMOUNT OF STAFF ON INVOLVED AND REVIEWING THESE TREE VERIFYING THAT THE TREE SURVEYS ARE ACCURATE. UNDER THIS SIMPLIFY PROCESS TAKE A LOOK FOR HERITAGE TREES AND THEY WOULDN'T BE VERIFYING THE SIZE OF EVERY TREE SHOWN ON THE TREE SURVEY AND VERIFYING THAT YES, THERE IS A. SABAL PALM AND ITS 4 AND A HALF INCHES. AND HERE'S THE MITIGATION FEE THAT GOES WITH THAT. SO THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF STAFF TIME INVOLVED IN REVIEWING THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES WITH NOT A WHOLE LOT OF PRE PRESERVATION BEING REALIZED SO THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO INCLUDE IT AS OPTION. COURSE IT'S ENTIRELY UP TO THE CITY COMMISSION IF YOU WISH TO PROCEED WITH THAT AS A VOLUNTARY APPROACH. ELIMINATED AND MAINTAIN THE SAME REGULATIONS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE I MEAN IT JUST SEEMS TO ME IT'S IT'S BEEN MY GENERAL SENSE AND PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. >> THAT THE CURRENT BEHAVIOR IS TO NOT DO. TREE SURVEY AT ALL JUST KIND OF ALL DOWN AND PAY THE 15,000. >> THEY HAVE TO DO THEIR TREE SURVEY, THERE'S NOT A FLAT FEE CURRENTLY UNDER OUR REGULATIONS EVERY SITE HAS TO COMPLETE A TREE SURVEY AND A MITIGATION CALCULATION SHEET EVERY SIDE. SO THIS WOULD PROVIDE THAT THAT OPTIONAL APPROACH OR AND WILL FAMILY HOMES ONLY. >> AGAIN I'M JUST NOT SEEING A BENEFICIAL. I COME I THINK THE TREES STILL GET CUT AND OR THEY'RE DEAD. AND THE SOMETHING IF AS MISS BARNES MENTIONS SO THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE HERITAGE TREES. GENERALLY SPEAKING FROM MY EXPERIENCE WE ENCOUNTER A SITE WITHOUT HERITAGE TREES WHERE. THE OLDER OR CONTRACTOR WISHES CLEAR THE ENTIRE SITE WHICH THEY HAVE THAT GENERALLY SPEAKING ARE SEEING MITIGATION FEE VARYING BETWEEN 2004 $1000. SO THE FACT THAT WE ARE. OFFERING THIS BE THAT IT'S IN MY OPINION SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER. AND WHAT THEY WOULD HAVE PAY APPROACHING IT THE SO TO SPEAK CLASSIC WAY. I THINK WE JUST OFFER THEM AN OPTION THAT THE OR MOST OF THESE LULLS WHERE THIS OPTION WILL BE USE IN MY OPINION THESE CALLS FOR SO I THINK THAT THEY WILL. THE MAJORITY WILL PROBABLY THE MAIN THING THE ORIGINAL PROCESS WITH THE SURVEY. >> THANK YOU I'M I'M GOING TO YOU KNOW THEY HAVE SOME OTHER SPECIFIC THING THAT IF A QUESTION YEAH THAT SPECIFIC ONE YEAH I APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER LANGDON BRINGING IT UP BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS TOO. IF YOU IF YOU'RE GOING TO SAY HEY YOU CAN EITHER DO THE TREE SURVEY OR PAY A $1000 FIRST QUESTION WHERE DOES THAT A $1000 GO SAME PLACE ALL UP GO INTO THE ENVIRONMENTAL TREE WHAT IS NOW THE TREE FUND OKAY. >> THE OTHER QUESTION IS IF IF THEY DECIDE TO JUST PAY THE $8,000 STAFF IS ALREADY GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND LOOK AT THE PROPERTY ANYWAYS TO TO SEE IF THERE'S A HERITAGE TREE ON THAT. BUT THE CONE IT IT'S NOT VERY CLEAR. THAT IT'S THE $8,000. PLUS MITIGATION FOR THE THE HERITAGE TREE IF IT'S ♪ BEING REMOVED. OBVIOUSLY IT'S COVERED IF THERE'S A CONSERVATION CRACK YEAR. BUT I'M NOT SEEN IN THIS CODE. IT'S A $1000. US THAT MITIGATION FOR THE HERITAGE TREE. AND THAT IS A VERY IMPORTANT DISTINCTION TO MAKE SURE IS COMPLETELY UNDERSTOOD IN THE CODE. THE OTHER THING IS IF THEY'RE PAYING THE $8,000 AND IT TURNS OUT TOO THAT WHEN STAFF GOES AND WALKS IT. IT IS A $1000 PLUS HERITAGE TREES. MAYBE IT'S MORE THAN THE $8,000 SO TOO COMMISSIONER LANGDON IS POINT WE'RE LOSING OUT AND THEY'RE NOT SAVING THE TREES WHICH IS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF US HAVING THIS TREE. >> CODE THAT WAS ADOPTED. JUST A COUPLE YEARS AGO NOT EVEN THAT SO I'M I'M FEELING THIS $8,000 OR WE'RE GOING TO SAVE THE DEVELOPER SOME TIME AND ENERGY A LOVER DEVELOPERS AND I UNDERSTAND THAT TIME IS MONEY TO THEM AND THAT TIME IS MONEY FOR OUR STAFF BUT THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A HUGE NATURAL RESOURCE DEPARTMENT THAT'S THE MAIN RECENT IN MY OPINION WE HAVE THIS DEPARTMENT WAS PROTECT THE TREES IN THE ENVIRONMENT. ♪ AND I'M ♪ JUST NOT FEELING THIS $8,000 THING. >> I THINK AGE 51 IS THAT ADDRESS AS YOU DID YOU DID MENTION THAT THEY HEARD A TREE, YES, YES AND I BROUGHT IT UP ON THE THEY WANTED TO A LOT DURING A TREE REMOVAL. >> AT THE OPTION OF THE PROPERTY OWNER. WE'RE IN THE TREATMENT REMOVAL MAY BE AUTHORIZED SUBJECT PAYMENT OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL MITIGATION FEE PER THE CITY FEE SCHEDULE, HOWEVER, IF A HERITAGE TREE IS IDENTIFIED ON THE PROPERTY BY NATURAL RESOURCES DIVISION STAFF, HEY MAN UP THE HERITAGE TREE REMOVAL PER CITY IS SCHEDULE WILL ALSO BE REQUIRED. AND YOU KNOW, YES, THE INTENT OF THE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE HAS ALWAYS BEEN TO SAVE TREES BUT IN THE PAST 2 YEARS OF IMPLEMENTING THE NEW TREATY HAVE WE HAVEN'T SEEN EFFECTIVELY PRESERVING TREES. >> SO. >> YOU KNOW THAT THE CONSIDERATION FOR SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS WHERE WE'RE THAT PRESERVATION OF TREES IS SO CHALLENGING ON THERE CONDITIONS EXIST AND THE THAT WAS THE REASONING BEHIND SUBMITTING THIS IS A POSSIBLE APPROACH AND I GOT MISSION. IT'S NOT FEEL THAT INCORPORATION OF THIS OPTIONAL APPROACH IS SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO SEE. >> YOU KNOW WE'LL WE'LL. >> WE'LL FOLLOW US. >> COMMISSION DIRECTION AND MODIFY THE DRAFT. >> AS YOU SEE THAT WELL THEN I FIND >> IS JUST COME EIGHT-THOUSAND REALLY DO AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO SAVE ANYTHING MORE OR LESS AND WE'RE CURRENTLY SAVING AND A COMMON POLICY. SO WHY DON'T WE JUST BE DONE WITH IT TO GET THE SURVEYS FORGET THE MITIGATION AND JUST JUDGE $15,000 FOR CLEARING LOT. SAVE EVERYBODY A LOT OF HEADACHES. I PHILOSOPHICALLY I HATE THAT APPROACH. PRACTICALLY THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING ANYWAY. NOT JUST A BOMB. >> I THINK IDEA >> ENCOURAGING PRESERVATION OF TREES THAT SHIP SAILED VERY LONG TIME AGO, BUT THAT JUST ISN'T BEING DONE YOU KNOW HAVE I LOOK AT I DRIVE ALL OVER AND LOOK AT SITES AND THEY DON'T. >> THEY DON'T SAVE ANYTHING IF THEY DO GLAD TO SEE THAT YOU HAVE THE. PROTECTION ZONE A LOT TO GET ALONG SO AT LEAST PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO MINIMALLY TO SAY THAT RATE IS RIGHT NOW ALL I SEE IS THEY PUT UP THAT LITTLE SQUARE RIGHT AROUND THE TRUMP. THINKING THAT'S GOING TO SAVE TREES TIME EVEN FINISHED WITH THE SITE SO YOU STILL ARE LEFT WITH A CLEAR CUT LOT AND YOU KNOW HOUSES HAVE GOTTEN BIGGER PEOPLE WANT AS MUCH AS THEY CAN AND USE CAUTION THAT 10,000 SQUARE FEET YOU HAVE A BIG HOUSE YOU HAVE A POOL WITH POOL CAGE AT THE SHED. I WAS TALKING TO SOMEBODY AND YET NOT THAT LONG AGO SAID HER SHE HAD A GARAGE WAS 1200 SQUARE I SAID OH MY WHERE I LIKE THIS WAS JUST HER GARAGE SO IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN SO THAT THE NEXT BEST THING IS TO YET MONEY SO WE CAN UTILIZE IT TO WHAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING FUN WITH THESE 4 TO PLANT TREES TO I'M TOUCHED UNSPOILED LAND THAT HAVE TREES AND THAT'S THE BEST WE CAN DO BECAUSE THEY. THE SAD TRUTH IS YOU KNOW WE ARE DEVELOPING AND WE HAVE 45,000. QUARTER ACRE LOTS OUT THERE THAT THAT CAN BE AND ARE BEING DEVELOPED AND THAT ANNOUNCED THAT ALL 1000 ACRES OF LAND AND EVEN THOUGH IT DOESN'T HAPPEN ALL AT ONCE IT'S ASSIST SYSTEMATICALLY HAPPENING THAT WE'RE CLEAR CUTTING ONE PUERTO AT A TIME. SO. I JUST WHAT I WANTED ADD TO THAT, BUT I WANTED TO THE QUESTIONS BUT I'M GOING TO HAVE FELLOW BUT OUT THERE MAY YET >> YOU WANT BUT JUST TO BUILD ON WHAT MAYOR SAID. IT TRIGGERED A THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE COME BEFORE US BECAUSE ASSEMBLED 2 OR 3 LOTS. I COULD SEE IN THOSE SITUATIONS HAVING MORE STRINGENT REQUIREMENTS FOR TREE SAVING. HEADS OF 1200 SQUARE-FOOT GARAGE RECENTLY HAD IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S 2 OR 3 LAW AND AND THIS BILL TO HOUSE AND 3 OR 4 CAR GARAGE SHOULD HAVE COVERED THE SURFACE OF THAT LOT REALLY LOT TO DO IT 3 LOSS SO I DON'T KNOW MAYBE IN THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE PEOPLE ARE CONSOLIDATING LOTS. WE WOULD HAVE MORE OF AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY SAVE SOME TREES ON THE PERIMETER I DON'T JUST JUST A POT SO TRIGGERED. >> I I WANTED WE WE STARTED. WHERE THE $15,000 FLAT FEE APPROACH AND >> CONVERSATIONS WITH STUFF ON AND HIS TEAM. >> WE LOOKED AT REDUCING THAT TO THE $8,000 TO PROVIDE GOT TALENT'S TO PROVIDE THAT BALANCE TO GIVE THEM SOME OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THESE PROPERTY OWNERS TO POTENTIALLY SAVE TREES, ESPECIALLY IN THOSE CASES WHERE THEY'VE GOT COMBINED LOCKS. >> AND AVOIDING. >> THE APPROACH THAT WOULD JUST ELIMINATE RE SURVEYS ENTIRELY ALLOW THEY'RE CUTTING. SO THIS GIVES US SOME OPPORTUNITIES WHILE STILL SIMPLIFIED STREAMLINED APPROACH FOR THOSE WHO WISH TO AVAIL THEMSELVES OF IT. AND THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO MENTION AS FAR COVERING THE SURFACE THE ENTIRE SURFACE OF THE 3, 8, 3 LOT SITE. WE ARE INCORPORATING MOSMAN IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AREA REQUIREMENT AND TO OUR CODE FOR ALL TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE REPLENISHING THE OPERA FOR MORE MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE NOT COVERING THE ENTIRE CITY. >> WHERE PERVIOUS SURFACE AREAS. >> MARCH. >> GIANNIS $8,000. I WAS HERE U.S. HOW THEY CAME UP WITH THAT NUMBER BUT JUST EXPLAIN TO BASICALLY IT'S THE AVERAGE BETWEEN 2.15. BUT TO ME. THIS IS THE WAY THAT I LOOK AT HOW THAT'S BEING PUT OUT THERE FOR THE DEVELOPERS BENEFIT. THEY COULD STILL GO IN AND CLEAR CUT WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO IS THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE THAT 8,000 ADDED TO THE PRICE OF THEIR HOUSE AND IT'S GOING TO BE GOING TO THE PERSON THAT'S BUYING THE HOUSE REGARDLESS. SO IT'S NOT INFRINGING ON THE DEVELOPERS TO GO OUT THERE AND STOPPED CLEAR COMING IN THE STATION OF THE CITIES. TREES OUT THERE AND AND OUR YOU KNOW OUR CANOPY NOW MAYBE MAYOR ARE COMMISSIONER LINED IN HEAD-ON AND SHE MAY HAVE SAID IT IN JEST BUT I WAS THINKING ABOUT TAKING IT TO THE 15,000 HOPEFULLY TO DETOUR. A LOT OF A LOT OF THAT GOING ON IN THE FUTURE AND BECAUSE THEN THE PRICE GOES UP 15 GRAND ON THESE HOUSES AND IT MAY CUT DOWN ON A LOT OF THE CLEAR CUTTING. WE WE HAVE STAFF IN PLACE TO DO THEIR JOB OF TREE SURVEYS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE OUT THERE, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE OUT THERE AND AND THAT'S WHAT THAT'S HOW WE'RE PROTECTING OUR ENVIRONMENT. SO WE'RE PROTECTING OUR LIVES ANIMALS OUT THERE, YOU KNOW IT'S. IT ALL WORKS TOGETHER BUT WET WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM A FREE PASS FOR A GRAHAM. YOU KNOW I THINK YOU SHOULD BE MORE I BELIEVE THIS SHOULD BE IN PLACE, BUT I THINK IT SHOULD BE MORE AND THEN THE CITY COULD DECIDE WHAT TYPE OF GREEN BELTS THEY WANT TO PLUG WHAT TYPE TREES WHEREVER THE CASE MAY BE YOU KNOW I THINK IT'S NEEDED BUT I THINK THOUSANDS WAY WE CAN I THINK IT'S JUST NOT GOING WORK. SO THAT THAT WAS MY >> IF I JUST FROM. JUST FROM STOP SOMETHING THAT I SEEMS THE INCEPTION OF DIVISION. I SEE BUILDERS APPROACHING US MORE FREQUENTLY NOW AND ASKING US. HOW WE. MAKE THIS WHAT WE DON'T SPEND AS MUCH. WE DON'T PLACES. FEEL OUR BUYERS AMES I FEEL THAT HISTORICALLY THERE HAS STOPPED BEING THE OPPORTUNITY TO EDUCATE AIMS. I SEE DAILY BASIS. I MUST SAY I'M. CHANGES WHERE TREES ARE BEING AS WE CAN AS WE KEEP EDUCATING THEM AND EXPLAINING HELP THEY ALL A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF THEIR MITIGATION TREAT THE FEES BY SIMPLY SAVING 2 TREES. SITES MANY OF THEM WERE EVEN AWARE OR THEY WERE NEVER EVEN YET FAMILIAR WITH THIS WITH THIS RULE I SEE PERSONALLY I SEE SOME CHANGE AIMS. I THINK THAT WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED AS A TEAM TO DO THAT. I'M PLANNING A MILL A MEETING WITH SOME OF OUR LIKELY TOWARDS END OF THE MONTH. EDUCATE AND PROVIDE SOME OF THESE OPTIONS. AND JUST THROUGH COMMISSIONER AND REACHES WHOLE. RIGHT THE BUILDERS THEY STILL AT THE THE COST OF THEIR MITIGATION FEE. AND ULTIMATELY THE BUYER IS THE ONE WHO WOULD WOULD PAY THE THIS WILL BE THIS OPTION WITH SERVICE. AND OPTION WHERE THEY THEY IN THE SITE THEY MAY DECIDE TO GO THE ORIGINAL. ROUTES. OR THEY CAN DECIDE TO GO. THIS ROUTE WITH OR MITIGATION FEE WITHOUT INCLUDING HERITAGE TREES. EITHER WAY THE CALLS. GOES GETS TRANSFERRED TO THE BUYER SO. >> YEAH ABSOLUTELY IT GOES TO THE BUYER. BUT MY MY EDUCATION. FOR THE DEVELOPERS YOU'RE DOING EDUCATION FOR THE REAL UTTERS THE WORDS THE EDUCATION FOR THE PUBLIC THAT'S OUT THERE SEE THE GUN LOCKS BEING STRIPPED EVERY DAY AS YOU DRIVE BY. THERE'S YOU KNOW THIS IS WHAT THIS COMMISSION HAS LISTENED TO OVER THE LAST WELL THE WHOLE TIME I'VE BEEN ON THE DIAS AND I'M SURE COMMISSIONER ARE WELL. THEY'RE STILL CLEAR CUTTING THE LOCKS WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT YOU THE MONEY GOES INTO THE TREE FUND WHAT ARE USING IT FOR. YEARS LATER WE'RE NOW STARTING TO USE THAT TO BENEFIT THE CITIZENS OF PORT WE NEED USE IT PROPERLY AND GET THOSE TREES ARE SOME OF THOSE TREES SAVED. I UNDERSTAND THEY'RE NOT ALL GOING TO BE SAVED. YOU KNOW WE'VE GOT TO DO OUR BEST AND IT DOES THE JOB THAT YOU SIGNED UP FOR YOU'RE GOING TO BE OUT THERE COUNTRY'S DOING YOUR JOB AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET CHARGED ACCORDINGLY BECAUSE I FEEL IF WE DO WHAT'S RIGHT IT COULD SLOW DOWN THE DEVELOPMENT JUST A TAD TO WHERE WE COULD POSSIBLY CATCH UP WORK ON INFRASTRUCTURE, A LITTLE BIT MORE AS WELL. YOU KNOW THEY'RE JUST COMING IN AND CLEARED EVERYTHING OUT BUILDING LOOK AT THIS PLACE, IT'S IT'S GONE. 2 DEVELOPMENTS CITY IN THE LAST 2 YEARS I MEAN YOU CAN SEE IT EVERY STREET YOU GO DOWN. SO WE NEED TO MAKE SOME CHANGES THAT THAT ARE TOUGH DISTRICT AND HOPEFULLY. YOU KNOW NOT NOT HAVE THAT GO FORWARD ANY FURTHER ALL SOLD OUT TO CLUTTERED. SO THAT'S MY OPINION I JUST THINK THAT THIS NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE BIT STRICTER. THANK YOU. >> AND I'M NOT YEAH, IT. >> THE ONLY REASON IN MY OPINION THAT THE DEVELOPERS AND BUILDERS ARE COMING TO THE NATURAL RESOURCE DIVISION NOW GRATEFULLY THAT YOU'RE HERE AND WE HAVE THIS DIVISION IN PLACES BECAUSE BUILDING IS SLOWING DOWN THE COST OF BUILDING IS GETTING SO EXPENSIVE AND THEY ARE NOT GETTING THAT MANY PEOPLE WANTING TO BUILD SO NOW THEY'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW CAN WE CUT EVEN $1000 OFF THE COST OF THE IF WE SAY THAT TREE AND THAT TREAT THAT'LL SAVE US SOME MONEY ON THE COST TO THE HOME. >> SO SO IN THAT REGARD. I THINK SLOWING THE ECONOMY IS SLOWING DOWN THE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR CITY NATURAL. >> IT'S PROVE IT IN THESE PAST FEW 6 MONTHS OR SO. THE FACT THAT WE'RE HAVING SUCH A HUGE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE TREE CODE AND WE HAVEN'T REALLY EVEN STARTED HAVING OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT RICO. JUST SHOWS THAT. WE DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS ON HOW TO PRESERVE THESE TREES. WHAT I FEEL LIKE THIS IS LIKE DEJA MOVE FROM FROM 3 YEARS AGO. >> AND. >> WE ARE LOSING SIGHT OF THE CONSERVATION CREDITS. >> AND BY JUST SAYING HEY PAY THIS A $1000 PUT IT IN THE BANK $10,000. WHATEVER THAT MAGIC NUMBER IS IT'S NOT GOING TO SOLVE. >> THE GOAL OF TRYING TO PRESERVE TREES. IF DON'T HAVE THEM DO 8 STUDY. REMOVES THE ABILITY FOR STAFF TO SAY HEY. DID YOU KNOW IF YOU THESE TREES HERE YOU CAN REDUCE YOUR YOUR MITIGATION FEES. YOU'RE LOSING AN OPPORTUNITY TO EDUCATE NOT ONLY THE BUILDER BUT ALSO THE PERSON WHO WAS HAVING THE HOUSE BUILT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS NOT EVEN DISCUSSED IN HERE SO MANY. PEOPLE THAT ARE BUILDING THE HOUSE DIDN'T KNOW HEY IF YOU SAVE THOSE TREES, IT'S GOING TO CUT DOWN THE COST OF YOUR BUILDING OF YOUR HOME THEY DON'T KNOW BECAUSE THEY'RE LISTENING TO THEIR BUILDER WHO JUST WANTS TO BUILD BUILD BUILD BUILD BUILD IN CLEAR CUT CLEAR PUT CLEAR CUP. >> I DON'T KNOW THE MAGIC ANSWER IS. >> BUT. ONE THING THAT WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT. >> IS THE FACT THAT THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT FOR TREE REMOVAL PERMIT. THAT IS SOMETHING I CAUGHT IN THIS IN THIS RIGHT AWAY STAFF IS CALLING IT SOMETHING DIFFERENT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AND WHY ARE WE REMOVING THE REQUIREMENT FOR PERMIT TO REMOVE TREES. BUT WE'RE BACK TO BASICALLY 3 YEARS AGO WITH OUR TREE COAT. AND IT CONCERNS ME BECAUSE YES ALL WE SEE IS CLEAR CUTTING. I HAVE A COUPLE HOUSES IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. I DO SEE A FEW TREES THAT WERE SAVED. THERE ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF THE PROPERTY LINE BUT ON THEIR PROPERTY LINE. WITHIN THEIR PROPERTY IN THAT SETBACK AREA. >> SO AT. >> THIS IS GOING TO BE HUGE DISCUSSION. >> THAT YOU WANT ADDRESS THAT I THOUGHT I TURNED THE DEPARTMENT QUESTION I WILL ADDRESS PERMIT AS. ALIGNS WITH FLORIDA BUILDING CODE. NO A COMMENT MAKES YOU THINK OKAY, I'M GOING TO GO TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND GET A PERMIT. WE OURS WE ARE INTENTIONALLY REMOVING FROM THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS. ZONING. REVIEWS. ANYTHING. WHILE WAY CALVERT ANYTHING THAT IS ADDRESSED AND THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. WE ARE REMOVING FROM THE PERMITTING PROCESS AND THE REASON FOR THAT SUBSTANTIAL. WE ARE ALL UNDER. BUILDING PERMITS UNDER STATE LAW. WE HAVE 30 DAYS TO REVIEW A PERMIT. THAT SAME STANDARD DOESN'T APPLY TO ZONING COMPLIANCE REVIEWS, BUT AS LONG AS THEY LIVE WITH THE BUILDING ON THAT WE'RE HELD TO THAT STANDARD AND FOR THE PAST 3 YEARS THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE HAS CONSISTENTLY SUBMITTED BILLS TO REDUCE OUR TIMELINES EVEN MORE IN SOME CASES NOW TO LITTLE SPY SO THE ELIMINATION OF THE ZONING NATURAL RESOURCES AND PUBLIC WORKS FOR ABUSE FROM THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO COMPLY WITH OUR SHOP REQUIREMENTS UNDER UNDER THE STATUTES RELATED TO BUILDING PERMITS. AND OUR STAFF IMPLEMENTING THE ULDC A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE DOING REVIEWS FOR COMPLIANCE WITH THE ULDC THAT'S WHY DID NOT SEE PERMIT. AND THIS SECTION. >> BUT HOW IS IT GOING TO AND I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE YES THE STATE LAW HAMSTRINGING THE CITY'S MORE AND MORE EVERY SINGLE YEAR AND IT JUST AGGRAVATE ME TO KNOW AND THAT THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE WITH YOU GUYS. BUT HOW ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO AN ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE KIND OF OVERVIEW OR TREE SURVEYOR ARCHAEOLOGICAL OVERVIEW TO ENSURE THAT THOSE RESOURCES ARE NOT BEING DESTROYED BECAUSE OF THIS 30 DAY OR WHATEVER. >> DOES YOUR NUMBER IT WILL IT WILL ALL IT WILL ALL BE GONE FOR THE START OF CONCERN AND BEFORE ARE BUILDING PERMIT DOWN THE TO HAVE A CERTIFICATE OF ZONING COMPLIANCE APPROVAL. AND ONCE THEY RECEIVED APPROVAL THEY CAN APPLY FOR THEIR BUILDING ON THAT THAT CERTIFICATES COMPLIANCE IS GOING TO GO TO OUR PUBLIC REVIEWER THE SUMMIT IF YOU'RE YOU'RE TALKING SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE, LET'S TALK SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES. WE HAVE A A SITE DEVELOPMENT REVIEWER. HANDLES REVIEW OF ANY ULDC PROVISIONS RELATED TO GRATING SWELLS WORK IN THE RIGHT OF WAY COVERT PIPES, ET CETERA FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ALSO GO TO OUR SITE AND PLANS REVIEWERS AND WILL ALSO GO TO OUR NATURAL RESOURCES DIVISION STAFF. SO THAT'S YOUR TEMP GETS OUT COMPLIANCE FOR NEW SINGLE-FAMILY HOME. ON THE BASIS FOR UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, AND UNDERBRUSH FROM CROSS KRUEGEL ON THE FIRST REMOVAL. A TREE CONSTRUCTION OF AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOME. SO. WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT THAT IT A STEP IN THE PROCESS, BUT WE THINK THAT IT'S WARRANT HEAD WILL PROVIDE FOR BETTER OUR COMPLIANCE WITH OUR ULDC AND WILL ALSO I GUESS IN A POSITION WHERE WE'RE MEETING THAT A STATUTORY TIMELINES FOR OUR BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS EASE. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT BECAUSE THE SCIENTISTS WERE 5 LINES AND THE RESPONSE JUST WENT. WHAT ARE YOU TALKING THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> I WILL FOLLOW UP QUESTION COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL BROUGHT UP ON SECTION 6 4007.2 TREE REMOVAL UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY. THAT WOULD BE A. >> INCLUDES A SINGLE FAMILY, LOT WITH A HOME ON IT OR IS THAT SOMETHING ELSE. >> YES THAT INCLUDES A SINGLE FAMILY THAT INCLUDES A SINGLE FAMILY LOT WITH A HOME ON A IT SAYS A SITE PLAN THEY HAVE SO THAT WELL YOU WOULD AND IT'S TRUE AS PERMIT. ARE UP AGAIN IT'S A CERTIFICATE OF SOUND AND COMPLIANCE, SO IF SOMEBODY HAS A DEVELOPED SIDE. AND THEY WANT TO REMOVE THE TREE ON THEIR SINGLE-FAMILY HOME SIDE. THEY WILL APPLY FOR A CERTIFICATE OUT OF COMPLIANCE AND THEY'LL GIVE US A LITTLE INTO PLAN B AND ROCK PLAN DOESN'T NEED TO BE A SURVEY OR AN ARBORIST PREPARED. >> DOCUMENT IT COULD BE HERE TO MY HOUSE, HERE'S MY TREES. THIS ONE IS A HAZARD. AND I LIKE TO REMOVE IT OR THIS ONE IS WITHIN 15 FEET MY HOME AND CONCERNED IS GOING TO UPLIFT MY FOUNDATION MY SIDEWALKS WHATEVER NATURAL RESOURCES THROUGH THAT CERTIFICATE IS IN COMPLIANCE WILL REVIEW AND THEN THEY WILL DETERMINE IF A TREE NEEDS TO BE REPLACED. BECAUSE IF YOU REMEMBER UNDER CHAPTER 4 WE ARE NOW REQUIRING SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES HAVE A MINIMUM NUMBER OF TREES BASED ON THE SIZE OF THEIR PROPERTY. >> SO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. IT WILL BE DETERMINED AND THE TREE BE REMOVED IF IT HAS IS IT 15 E IS IT YOU KNOW IT IS IT WARRANTED TO HAVE THIS TREE REMOVED WITH REMOVAL THAT THEY DROP BELOW THE MINIMUM REQUIRED TREASON DO THEY NEED TO REPLACE A TREE ON THE PROPERTY OK AND THAT'S REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THAT TREE WAS THERE WHEN THAT HOUSE WAS. >> WAS BUILT. ISOM. >> CHANCE OR THEY PLANTED THOSE TREES THEMSELVES ON THEIR OWN ACCORD THEY. WOULD HAVE TO APPLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TO REMOVE THAT HER SO DO WE HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT PARTICULAR. >> DO ON THAT ONE THAT YOU BROUGHT THAT YEAH. SO TREE REMOVAL UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY. I HAVE PLANTED MANY TREES ON MY PROPERTY. I'M IN MY BACKYARD. IT'S ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES OF NOT HAVING THE POOL AND BUILDING 9,000 SQUARE-FOOT HOME ON A 10,000 SQUARE-FOOT BUT LET'S SAY WHOEVER BUYS THE HOUSE AFTER WE SELL IT AND THEY WANT TO REMOVE ONE OR 2 OF THOSE STREETS. I THINK GOING TO NOT BE ABLE TO. >> THERE ARE CRITERIA FOR TREE REMOVAL. >> THERE COULD BE CONSIDERATIONS ADDED TO ALLOW REMOVAL OF TREES UP TO THE LEVEL OF STILL MEETING THE MINIMUM TREE REQUIREMENTS. WE DON'T THINK IT ALIGNS WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROVISIONS FOR PROTECTION OF THE TREE CANOPY SO YOU KNOW WE'D LIKE TO SEE SOME CRITERIA FOR DETERMINATION OF WHETHER A TREE SHOULD BE REMOVED OR NOT. ULTIMATELY IT'S AT THE COMMISSION'S DISCRETION AGAIN HARLEY THERE'S AN EXEMPTION. >> ACROSS THE BOARD YOU CAN REMOVE EVERY NEAR LOT NOT YOUR HOME FOR YEAR. SO IF THERE NEEDS TO BE A BALANCE HERE, WE'D CERTAINLY. >> LIKE TO HEAR FROM ME OUT AND I THINK PROBABLY SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT THAT AS WELL. >> I'M HERE FROM STEPHEN AND THEN I'M GOING TO. COMMENT ON WHAT WAS JUST SAID. >> ABSOLUTELY I THINK THAT THE WORD HERE BALLONS WE ARE COMPLETELY. THE UO WAY OF THE SPECTRUM RIGHT NOW BASICALLY EVERY EVERYONE REMOVE TREES WITHOUT REASON ON THEIR PROPERTY, A FOCUS FOR THE PROPERTY FOR OVER ONE YEAR. EVEN WITH THESE. DEVELOPMENTS IN AREAS WHERE A 3 MAYBE SAVE ITS AIMS THAT LITIGATION. OF OR DEVELOPMENTS SIGNIFICANTLY BE REDUCED IT TO THAT 3 BEING SAFE. THEY QUICKLY WITHIN A YEAR. FROM THE OWNER REMOVE THE TREE. IN MY PROVIDES FLEXIBILITY FOR THE OLDER, BUT IT'S. AS FAR AS A TREE CANOPY CITY TREE I THINK THAT THIS IS NOT. WE'RE TRYING TO COPE WITH STARS. A TREE PRESERVATION, PRIVATE WELLS. IT'S HERS. I IT IS WHERE ONLY. HAZARDS HASN'T TREASON YOU CASES SUCH OR RETAIL. NEED TO BE PRESIDENT 43 TO BE REMOVED. BUT AGAIN I BELIEVE THAT. MAYBE FURTHER DISCUSSION HERE WILL TO. JUST THEN TO STRIKE THE RIGHT HERE'S MY REBUTTAL THAT >> I OWN A VACANT LOT AND I WANT TO BUILD A HOME THAT TAKE LOT. I CAN GO IN IN CLEAR THAT ENTIRE LOT. BUT IF I OWN AN EXISTING HOME. THAT HAS 5 TREES ON IT. AND IN SOME POINT I DECIDED I WANT TO PUT IN A POOL. >> AND THAT WOULD REQUIRE ME REMOVING. 3 TREES. I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. THIS DEFIES LOGIC IN MY MIND. IF IF WE ARE TRYING TO HAVE A TREE CANOPY. AND WE HAVE A TREE CANOPY REGARDLESS IF IT'S IMPROVED LADDER AND AN IMPROVED LOT. AND IF IF WE'RE GOING TO SAY WE ARE GOING TO PRESERVE TREES. AND SOMEWHERE IN THE BEGINNING OF THIS THIS WHERE YOU SAID THAT THERE'S A ♪ 15 TO 25% MINIMUM, ONSITE TREE. >> REQUIREMENT NOT FOR WOMEN IT'S IMPOSSIBLE THINK YOU'VE GOT ALL THE WAY FOR SITES FOR IRAN. DEVELOPMENTS PLAN AND INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN APPROVAL AND THAT IS WRITTEN AND TO THE REGULATIONS IN CHAPTER IF CANNOT PROVIDE FOR 15 TO 25% RE PRESERVATION ON A QUARTER ACRE OCCASION BECAUSE I DON'T REMEMBER YOU SAYING COMMISSIONER SAID IT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION. >> NOW REALLY GOES BACK TO ♪ >> THE POINT. WE WANT TO FOCUS ON THIS TREE CANOPY IN OUR COMP PLAN FOR IMPROVED PROPERTY. MY SINGLE FAMILY LOT. BUT YET WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANYTHING FOR AID UNIMPROVED PROPERTY THAT JUST GOING CLEAR CUT EVERYTHING. I'M HAVING A SERIOUS PROBLEM WITH ALL OF THIS AND AGAIN WE'RE RIGHT BACK TO WHERE WE WERE 3 YEARS AGO BECAUSE THIS IS DEJA AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT BALANCES AND YOU KEEP SAYING WE WANT BALANCE AND WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS TREE CANOPY WHICH I DO NOT DISAGREE. BUT HOW DO YOU SAY IT ON ONE SIDE WITH IMPROVED PROPERTY, NO YOU CANNOT REMOVE 2 OR 3 TREES TO PUT IN THE POOL, BUT YET THE PEOPLE RIGHT NEXT DOOR JUST CLEAR CUT THE ENTIRE FREAKIN LOT TO PUT IT TO BRING HOME THAT'S 9,000 SQUARE FEET ON A 10,000 SQUARE-FOOT PROPERTY. I DON'T UNDERSTAND AND I REALLY HOPE THAT BETWEEN NOW AND THE TIME THAT WE DO FINAL APPROVAL THAT THIS WILL BE ADDRESSED BECAUSE WE CANNOT BE TALKING OUT OF BOTH SIDES OF HER MOUTH. >> SO WHILE THE INTENT WAS NOT TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM BUILDING A SENSORY STRUCTURES AND WE WILL CERTAINLY PUT SOME CLARIFYING LANGUAGE HERE UNDER THE DEVELOPED PROPERTIES SECTION. WHEN WE HAVE A SITE PLAN COME THROUGH FOR THAT'S RESTRUCTURE. WE'RE CERTAINLY GOING TO EVALUATE THE TREE REMOVAL AND WHETHER THAT IS WARRANTED BASED ON PROPOSED ACCESSORY STRUCTURE LOCATION BASED ON THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AREA OF THE SITE AND BASED ON WHETHER MINIMUM NUMBER OF TREES ARE PROVIDED FOR HERE. I WANT TO GO BACK TO WHAT WHAT STEPHON HAD TO >> WHEN WE'RE REQUIRING A WHEN WE'RE REQUIRING. >> MITIGATION FEES AND THEN WE'RE GIVING CONSERVATION CREDITS TO SAVE A TREE ON A SINGLE FAMILY HOME THAT AND THEN BE REMOVED WITH ANY HERE WE'RE SHOOTING OURSELVES IN THE UP WE'RE NOT ACCOMPLISHING THE INTENT OF THE TREE PRESERVATION REGULATIONS. SO WHERE WE ARE LOOKING FOR BALANCE WE ARE LOOKING FOR SOME REGULATIONS THAT. GET THAT BALANCE NOT ONLY TO OUR OUR PROPERTY OWNERS OR FUTURE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE DEVELOPERS ARE CONTRACTORS. >> AND >> ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION ON THIS. >> ALL RIGHT SO JUST TO CLARIFY THAT'S WHEN THE SITE PLAN WOULD COME INTO PLAY SOMEBODY. THOSE THE HOUSE THAT MAYBE THEY RECEIVED CONSERVATION CREDITS. AND THEY WANT TO REMOVE ONE OF THOSE TREES AND A SITE PLAN WOULD COME INTO PLAY THAT THEY WANT TO REMOVE THIS TRAIN. >> RIGHT AROUND WHICH IS NOT CALLING HERMIT ANYMORE THAT WHAT YOU'RE SENT HOWEVER. THAT ITSELF. FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES VOLUNTARY MEANING. IS CUTTING DOWN A TREE IN THEIR BACKYARD. THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANYTHING POSTED THAT SAYS THEY HAVE THAT PERMISSION IT REALLY WOULD DEPEND ON ABOUT I'M GOING TO TAKE A CUE FROM KIT COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL ASKED ABOUT WHEN OUR ORDINANCE IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO ENFORCE THIS. >> IT REALLY JUST BE A MATTER SOME MAY DROP A DIME ON RIGHT THEY WILL THEY SAYING THAT THERE'S SOMETHING RIGHT. >> THEY WILL RECEIVE THEY WILL RECEIVE A CERTIFICATE OF AUDIENCE DOCUMENT THAT CAN BE POSTED ON THE SITE AND THERE WILL BE INSPECTIONS. I WANT TO I TOO CERTIFICATE ZONING COMPLIANCE SO THIS OUTING INSPECTORS ARE STILL GOING TO GO OUT AND VERIFY STEP UP THE NATURAL RESOURCES STOPPED STILL GOING TO GO OUT AND VERIFY THAT YES THE TREE WAS REMOVED AND YES, THE REQUIRED REPLACEMENT TREE WAS PLANTED AND THEN THEY'LL FOLLOW THROUGH TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT TREE STAYS ALOFT RIGHT SO THERE WILL BE INSPECTIONS TIED TO THAT AND SOUNDING COMPLY AND IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THAT TREATS GOING TO REMAIN LIKE YOU SAID THERE. >> IT'S PRETTY BROAD HERE HAZARD A TREE THAT CONSTITUTES A HAZARD TO LIFE OR PROPERTY DOESN'T EVEN TO FIND WHAT DO YOU CONSIDER TO BE A HAZARD. POSTED SOMETHING ON SOCIAL MEDIA BUT VERY LARGE PINE TREE THAT WAS REMOVED ON SOUTH BOULEVARD AND. >> AND I'M SURE AND. >> PEOPLE THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO POSE A HAZARD WITH THE NEXT STORM AND I'VE HAD PEOPLE THAT. THAT CONTACT ME AND TELL ME THAT THEY DON'T. >> ESPECIALLY AFTER A AND PEOPLE ARE JUST SOME TREE. YOU KNOW SCARED, YEAH ASKING EVERY EVERY TREE IS GOING ON MY HOUSE AND WE ARE OUR OWN WORST ENEMIES AND HAVING LIVED HERE FOR DECADES, OBSCENE HOUSES AROUND ME THAT WERE THEY ACTUALLY SAVED TREES ON THE FRONT YARD AND EACH SUBSEQUENT OWNER. SYSTEMATICALLY STARTED CUTTING THOSE TREES DOWN UNTIL WE HAVE A BARREN LOT WAS JUST THE YOU KNOW WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY AND WHAT WE WANT TO SEE IT THERE'S REALLY NOTHING WE CAN DO TO FORCE PEOPLE TO ABBOTT RATE IF THEY DON'T WANT IT THAT'S JUST THE REALITY. AND IT'S SAD. SO THE BIG KEY IS EDUCATION. BUT EVEN THAT I WANT I HAVE VERY INTENSE CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE ABOUT. TRAINS AND THEY SAY WELL I SAW THIS TREE GOING IN THE WIND AND IAN AND I DIDN'T WANT FALL ON ME SO I CUT IT DOWN AFTER THE STORM EVEN THOUGH THAT TREES SURVIVED A 150 MILE AN HOUR WINDS. THEY SAW NEED TO CUT IT NOW. IT YET DEFIES LOGIC BUT THAT'S THE REALITY BUT I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THERE IS SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE CAN SAY YES IF YOU'RE UNSURE ABOUT WHETHER THEY HAD PERMISSION TO CUT THAT TREE DOWN THERE SHOULD BE A ZONING. PAPER OUT THERE SOMETHING THAT SAYS SAYS THAT BUT THAT TREE IS STILL GOING TO COME DOWN IF THEY CONSIDERED TO BE A HAZARD YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO SAY NO. TOO BAD YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP THAT RATE BECAUSE SETTING OURSELVES UP FOR LIABILITY. >> I THERE COULD BE SOME CASES WHERE WE'RE IN THE NATURAL RESOURCES DIVISION IN THEIR PROFESSIONAL OPINION. THE TERM AND THAT THAT TREE IS NOT A HAZARD. BUT THEN THE APPEAL PROCESS AND CHAPTER WIND KICKING AND THAT PROPERTY OWNER CAN APPEAL. THE STOP DECISION TO THE ZONING HEARING OFFICER, I'M JUST LIKE WITH ANY OTHER. PROVISION ON THE CODE AND STAFF INTERPRETATION OF THOSE REGULATIONS. NOW I THINK STEPHEN SCOTT TO SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT HOW THEY WOULD DETERMINE A TREE IS A HAZARD OR NOT OKAY. >> THANK >> THE. >> INTERNATIONAL SOCIETY OF OUR CULTURE OR A CULTURE HAVE BASICALLY DECIDE DESIGNED TO PROCESS IT IS NOW DOWN TO A SIZE WHERE 3 CAN BE THE PURPOSE AND BY A TRAINED PROFESSIONAL ARE AND WHETHER IT IS AS OF THIS OR NOT. WE HAVE OVER URBAN FORESTER WHO HAS JUST RECENTLY JOINED OUR TEAM. HE IS AN EXPERT IN THE FIELD AS IT'S A ASSIST MANY OF THESE CASES HISTORICALLY SO THIS IS A NEW DIVISION NOW WE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO 8 >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. WE DON'T HAVE A QUESTION OR SOMETHING FURTHER ON THAT TOPIC. WE CAN GO ON FOREVER WITH THAT'S FRUSTRATING. >> SO THIS SO. MY HOUSE. I TREAT. I WANT TO DOWN. I HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY COME OUT AND INSPECTED TO DETERMINE IF IT'S A HAZARD OR NOT IF IT'S A HAZARD THAT CAN HAVE IT REMOVED. NO PROBLEM. BUT ITS BEEN DETERMINED THAT IT'S NOT A HAZARD. AND I STILL WANT IT DOWN I HAVE TO APPEAL. STAFF'S DECISION. >> 2. >> THE APPEAL. >> PROCESS. A COST. AND I'M SURE IT'S NOT A CHEAP COST. PROBABLY A COUPLE $1000. FOR SOMETHING THAT'S ON MY PROPERTY. AND I WANT TO HAVE REMOVED, BUT MEANWHILE STORIES BEING CLEARED AS YOU'RE EXPECTING MY TREE TELLING ME I CAN'T TAKE IT UP. WELL IT ALL TO RESPECT THOSE ARE 2 DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS PROPS THERE ROBIN MY PROPERTY YOU'RE BUILDING SOMETHING TO START WITH AND THEN THIS IS. >> ADDRESSING AFTER ATTACK COULD HAVE IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT THESE THINGS PLACE WHEN THAT PROPERTY IS DEVELOPED HOW ARE WE GOING TO TO CARE FOR THE OR TAKE CARE OF THAT SO CONTINUES AND THOSE TREES CONTINUE TO GROW AND THAT'S IT THE SECOND PART OF THE EQUATION ACTUALLY. BUT I I DO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT THIS IS WHAT I HEAR FROM PEOPLE I HEARD THIS FOR DECADES. IT PUT THEIR FINGERS IN MY FACE PROPERTY, MY TREE I WANT TO TAKE IT DOWN WHO ARE YOU TO TELL ME I HAVE TO KEEP THE TREE MY BACKYARD AND THAT'S WHEN I BACKED OFF AND I REALIZE THAT WAS A LOSING BATTLE EXACTLY AND IT IS A LOSING BATTLE AND I RECOGNIZE THAT >> IT'S SOMEBODY PROPERTY. MY HOUSE HAS LIKE 5 TREES AND I HAVE A HUGE AREA THAT IS ALL NATURAL. AND I WANT TO PRESERVE IT. BUT THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO DO SOMEBODY ELSE MADE I DON'T WANT TO TREE ON MY PROPERTY ANYWHERE NEAR MY PROPERTY TAKE THEM OFF MY NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY TOO WHILE YOU'RE AT IT. BUT IT'S THEIR PROPERTY. I UNDERSTAND THIS IS A LOSING BATTLE AND IT IT'S IT'S A BATTLE OF THE WILLS AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT BALANCE IS. >> BUT I REALLY HOPE THAT WHEN STAFF LOOKS AT THIS CONE THEY KEEP IN THEIR MIND. >> YOU HAVE AN IMPROVE PROPERTY AND THEY UNIMPROVED PROPERTY THAT'S BEING CLEARED AT THE EXACT SAME TIME THAT YOU GUYS ARE OUT INVESTIGATING AND DETERMINING THAT YES THAT PROPERTY CAN KEEP THE TREE CAN REMOVE ALL THE TREES IN THIS ONE HAS TO KEEP UP. IT. >> A LOGICAL AND I WANT TO CLARIFY BE TO MAKE THE ATTEMPT GET IT WE NEED TO PUT THIS FOR THE EDUCATION PROCESS PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE VALUE AND LITTLE BY LITTLE CAN CHIP AWAY AT A. >> THE FEAR OF TREES. >> THAT PEOPLE HAVE BUT NEEDS TO LEAST A 10 FOOT AND DONE. >> VICE MAYOR DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING. >> WE HAVE MORE TREES MAKE SURE FIND A WAY. TO MAKE THIS SUSTAINING SAID THAT 10'S OF THOUSANDS AND HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT GET. >> FOR THIS TREE FUND OR WHATEVER WE WANT TO CALL IT. TO PLANT NEW PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DO IT THAT THEY WANT WAS HALF THE TIME, DON'T KNOW THE LAWS CUT DOWN WHAT THEY WANT TO CUT THEM. REALITY IS MAYER SAYS. THINK ABOUT STAFF I TO IT. BEST THEY CAN AND THE TOUGH TOUGH SITUATION OF SIDE YOU'RE ON IT WE'VE LISTENING TO THIS CONVERSATION GO ROUND AND ROUND TO NOWHERE AND THAT'S WHAT WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO FOR EVER. ANSWER IS. EDUCATE. PLANT MORE TREES. INCENTIVIZE BUSINESSES HOMEOWNERS EVERYBODY UNDER THE SUN TO PLANT MORE TREES. MY CITY EVERYWHERE. WHAT CAN YOU TELL. >> ALL RIGHT I AGREE THAT THINK MORE CONTROL ENTRIES ON CITY-OWNED PROPERTY WE CAN DO THAT IN A HEARTBEAT SO YES COMMISSIONER LANGDON PROPERTY TAX REBATES WHEN THEY PLAN A TREE AND IT'S STILL ALIVE. A YEAR OR SO AFTER INCENTIVES RATHER THAN STICKS BUT ANYWAY. >> I'M GOING TO PROVIDE A LITTLE COMIC RELIEF TO THIS CONVERSATION. I HAVE A COUPLE OF LITTLE NETS THAT I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT ON PAGE OF THE CHAPTERS SAID >> ALLOWED ACTIVITIES AND USAGE ITEM 3 NON MOTORIZED RECREATION ON WHAT ABOUT THE BIKES. AGE IT'S 9. SAYS PASSIVE RECREATION AND NON MOTORIZED RECREATIONAL USAGE, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED BICYCLING MAX WHAT ABOUT BIKES. IT'S CERTAINLY NO MORE DESTRUCTIVE THAN BMX ACTIVITIES CAN BE A BREAK. >> WE CAN JUST BECOMING SO POPULAR AND THEY'RE SUCH GOOD OPTION, PARTICULARLY FOR OLDER MIGHT HAVE THE ENERGY TO GET THERE BUT SOMETIMES HAVE DON'T HAVE THE ENERGY TO GET BACK HOME AGAIN AND I JUST DON'T SEE THEM AS ANY MORE DESTRUCTIVE. AND GASP HOW THE SPEWING. >> I WE'RE HAPPY THAT YOU KNOW THE INTENT WAS TO AVOID ATV'S AND AVOID MOTORIZED BOATS IN THE VOID, THOSE TYPE OF. >> TYPES OF USES WHICH LISTED AT BECAUSE I GET THE QUESTION ALL THE CAN I TAKE MY BIKE THERE. AND IT THAT'S A GOOD POINT I HAD THAT TOO BECAUSE BIKES CONSIDERED THAT THAT'S A MOTOR I HAVE STOP ENGINE OR IT'S A BUT HE'S SO WE SAY NOT MOTORIZED. THAT WOULD INCLUDE AUTOMATICALLY E-BIKES BECAUSE THAT'S A MOTOR. SO YOU HAVE ACTUALLY SECTION IN THEIR FRONT THE BIKE, ELECTRICAL. >> WE WILL MODIFY THE LANGUAGE TO MAKE CLEAR E-BIKES ARE ALLOWED AND WHEREVER IT APPEARS IT COULD BE IN OTHER PLACES AND THEN THE SAME PAGE ITEM 6. WOULD WE WANT TO SPECIFICALLY SAY ARE. CLEARING OF INVASIVE SPECIES I MEAN THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED UNDER ANY CONDITION. IT'S JUST NOT SPECIFIED ALRIGHT AND SEE IT. BUT WAIT WHAT DID IT AGAIN ITEM 6 AND AT THE SAME. SECTION AND SELECTIVE. >> WEARING OR TRIMMING. >> VEGETATION NOT LISTED AS THREATENED AND ENDANGERED ART SPECIAL CONCERNS. >> BUT THAT DOESN'T. ALLOW FOR THE CLEARING OF PESO. IT'S MORE PROTECTING THINGS THAT THREATENED, BUT. I DO JUST THE THOUGHT OF KIND OF POPPED THERE THAT LINE WHICH WAS CARRIED FORWARD FROM THE CURRENT CODE AND WE'VE GOT NO CONCERNS WITH SPECIFYING THAT INVASIVE REMOVAL IS ALLOWED UNDER ANY CONDITION. >> THAT SAID DON'T OKAY. COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. >> YEAH, I JUST HAVE ONE LINGERING QUESTION. THE TREE DISCUSSION. ONE OF YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT OUR CODE REQUIRES HAS A MAXIMUM IMPERVIOUS SITE REQUIREMENT. DOES THAT ALSO INCLUDE SINGLE-FAMILY OR TO FAMILY MAXIMUM SITE. FOR IMPERVIOUS YES. DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW WHAT THAT PERCENTAGE BECAUSE I DON'T WHERE I'M GOING WITH MY QUESTION IS I WANT TO PREVENT THOSE 9,000 SQUARE-FOOT HOMES. ON A 10,000 SQUARE-FOOT LOT. >> I WE WERE PROPOSED 80% FOR A SINGLE FAMILY PRE PLATTED LOT. WE ALSO 4 NEW SUBDIVISIONS MAXIMUM THE PERVIOUS SURFACE AREA FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AS A WHOLE WHICH WHICH WHICH DIFFER. WHICH DIFF IS DIFFERENTIATED FROM EACH INDIVIDUAL LOT WHAT SECTION OF THE CODE IS A SENSE I CAN JUST. >> I AM I'M LOOKING COMMISSIONER OUT THANK YOU I THOUGHT YOU WERE READING. >> WITNESS ACHES NO, I I WASN'T I WAS NOT READING THAT I LYING ON THE MAY OR MAY >> NOT ACTUALLY ACCURATE AT THIS POINT IN TIME THAT MAYBE WE WHAT WE MIGHT NEED TO >> IF IF YOU CAN GET ME THAT CODE AND JUST SEND IT TO ME BY EMAIL I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IS MAYBE WE NEED TO REDUCE THAT AMOUNT FOR SINGLE FAMILY LOT. TO GIVE THEM GREATER OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO CONSERVE SOME OF THE TREATS. IF YOU IT THAT BALANCE IF YOU ALLOW HUGE AMOUNT OF STRUCTURE YOU HAVE LITTLE ABILITY TO PRESERVE TREES WERE A FEW LOWER THAT NOW THAT INCREASES THE ABILITY TO PRESERVE TREATS. AND KEEPS YOU FROM BUILDING A 9,000 SQUARE-FOOT HOME AND A 10,000 SQUARE-FOOT ALL IF YOU COULD THAT I WOULD APPRECIATE IT TOO. WE'LL GET MORE TWO-STOREY HOUSES. >> SURE EVER TO DO HAVE. >> I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO THINK WE FORGOT ABOUT. >> NO I THINK I'M DONE TALKING ABOUT THAT. >> OKAY ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL YEAH, I HAVE A FEW OTHER ONES WE NEED TO GET A CONSENSUS ON WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT ENDANGERED AND THREATENED I HAD I HAD A IDEA THIS MORNING. BECAUSE NOT IT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE CHARTS IT DOESN'T INCLUDE ALL OF THE. >> LOCAL. >> CRITTERS THAT ARE PROTECTED OR THREATENED EITHER BY STATE SECTION WITH PAGE IT'S SECTION 4006.1 OR ARE DOUBLED FOR. SO THE FIRST ONE THAT CAME OUT THAT PROMPTED THE QUESTION WAS THE BONDED TO BACKED IT IS LISTED AS A FEDERAL ENDANGERED SPECIES, BUT IT'S NOT ON THE LIST. AND STAFFING WHEN A REVIEW THEIR ANSWERS TO MY THEY BASICALLY WERE SAYING YOU KNOW WE CAN'T CONCLUDE ALL. IF YOU LOOK AT THAT FIRST SENTENCE A PURPOSE OF THIS ARTICLE YOU SEE >> IS NOT TO IS TO LIMIT DEVELOPMENT >> FEDERALLY DESIGNATED ENDANGERED FEDERALLY DESIGNATED THREATENS STATE DESIGNATED THREATENED IN STATE AS NEEDED. SPECIES OF SPECIAL CONCERN. >> SINCE THAT ENCOMPASSES EVERYTHING AND THAT'S THIS LIST IS VERY FLUID. ONE YEAR IT COULD BE THREATENED. AND NEXT YEAR IT'S OFF THE THREATENED BLITZED SO THIS LIST BECOMES VERY FLUID IN THIS TABLE. BUT THE FEDERAL AND STATE LISTS GET UPDATED REGULARLY. MY IDEA WAS WHY NOT JUST REMOVE THE TABLES. BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE A BODY TO BACK WHICH IS NOT ON THIS LIST. YOU THEN HAVE TO GO AND SEE WHAT IS WHAT IS A BONDED TO BACK IN IT IS NOW FEDERALLY THREAT. BUT THE ALLIGATOR WAS THREATENED AND NOW IT'S NOT EVEN 9 BECAUSE MADE SOME GREAT STRIDES AND COMING BACK. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WANT TO DO IT. BUT MY THOUGHT IS REMOVE THE LISTS. BECAUSE THOSE LISTS CHANGE MORE FREQUENTLY THAN OUR COAT. THAT A COMPROMISE. >> ALL RIGHT SO SO THE LIST WAS BASED ON THE DATA FROM THE FLORIDA NATURAL NATURAL AREAS INVENTORY WHICH THEY HAVE A DATABASE FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND THEY IDENTIFIED THE SPECIES THAT ARE LOCATED IN CERTAIN GEOGRAPHIC AREAS. SO WE'VE INCLUDED THE LIST THAT IS IN SECTION 4006.2 BASED ON THAT DATA OF SPECIES THAT ARE KNOWN TO OCCUPY SARASOTA COUNTY FOR SITE FOR BIRDS RIGHT BIRDS. ARE KNOWN OCCUPY SARASOTA COUNTY. IF THEY ENVIRONMENTAL IS SUBMITTED THAT SHOWS OTHER SPECIES ARE NATURAL RESOURCES STAFF GOING TO GO TO THE SORTS. THIS GIVES A QUICK REFERENCE FOR STAFF AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WITHOUT HAVING TO GO TO THE FEDERALIST AND WITHOUT HAVING TO GO TO THE STATE LISTING. IT'S. IT WOULD. QUITE A LONG LONG LIST IF WE INCORPORATED EVERYTHING. THIS HYPER FOCUSES ON WHAT WE KNOW EXIST SARASOTA COUNTY. >> TIFFANY DID THAT IS IN SARASOTA COUNTY AND IT'S NOT ON YOUR LIST AND THAT THE POINT THAT I WAS DRIVING HOME OF I RECOGNIZE THAT THE LIST IS SUPPOSED TO BE SARASOTA COUNTY. BUT THERE ARE THINGS MISSING FROM THE LIST THAT ARE SARASOTA COUNTY. >> EITHER A STATE THAT REMOVES PRESSURE BACK. >> THAT IS THAT'S THAT'S A MAMMAL OR SO BUT MAYBE THERE SHOULD BE AS I KNOW WE HAVE MANATEES ON HERE MAYBE THAT WOULD BE THAT MOST PEOPLE PUT THE BIRD SPECIES BECAUSE IT FLIES BUT IT'S NOT I UNDERSTAND THAT AND HAVE MAYBE IT SHOULD BE UNDER THAT MANATEE LIKE A MAMMAL DESIGNATION AND THAT THIS WAY WE CAN ADD TO IT AS I AGREE THAT THAT THAT SHOULD BE PROTECTED COMPROMISE. >> WHAT WHAT IF WE SIMPLY ADDED LANGUAGE TO SAY THAT THIS. BIRDS IDENTIFIED AND THIS CHARTER REPRESENTATIVE. THERE IS A MORE COMPREHENSIVE LIST AND GIVE A REFERENCE I THINK WE THAT NOT A SECTION THAT SAYS OTHER PROTECTED SPECIES AND WILL. >> THE BONNET ABOUT AND WHAT. >> OTHER SPECIES THAT DON'T ALL UNDER A BIRD UNDER A MANATEE OR A GOPHER TORTOISE YOU KNOW, I'M SURE THAT CAN STEPHEN AND I CAN WORK TO PROVIDE THAT ADDITIONAL >> YOU KNOW SOME OF THE WANTED LIST THAT HAS BIRDS MAMMALS THAT HAS FOREIGN AND I DON'T I DON'T KNOW, BUT SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE BECAUSE ON ONE HAND WE'RE HEARING. IT'S ONLY SARASOTA COUNTY FOCUSED THREATENED ENDANGERED, BUT YET THERE'S A FEW THAT WE KNOW ARE NOT INCLUDED ON THIS LIST SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION. >> IF I MAY I THINK >> IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DEFINITELY CLEARLY SPECIFY THE. MAY KNOW THIS IS NOT A COMPREHENSIVE LIST REFER TO THE MOST RELEVANCE. A STATEMENT FEDERAL LIST AS WELL FOR EACH OF THESE ARE MOST COMMON. ABSOLUTELY THAT THERE ARE OTHER US YEAH. >> AND THAT WAS ONE OF MY OTHER SUGGESTIONS OF COMPROMISE WAS TO ADD SOME KIND OF LANGUAGE THING THAT'S NOT ALL. A MAYOR I DO HAVE A FEW OTHERS. THE CHASE HERE, I'M NOT SURE WHAT PAGE IT IS BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT THE SHEET THAT HAS MY QUESTIONS IN THEIR COMMENTS IT'S FIGURE 6.6 POINT 3.1. WHEN YOU LOOK THIS FIGURE YOU'LL SEE IS OWN 3 ITS CONSERVATION ZONE, 3. AND ONE OF MY BIG QUESTIONS IS WHY DO WE HAVE A HOUSE AND OTHER STRUCTURES IN ZONE 3 WHICH IS WITHIN THE 220 FEET OF THE MYAKKA RIVER PROTECTION ZONE. AND STAFF BASICALLY SAID THAT THERE'S THE CLEAR ZONE AND. >> I DO MINE IS. STAFF IS SAYING THE HOUSE IS NOT ALLOWED IN THIS ZONE. THE PICTURE SHOWS A HOUSE IN THE AND AND I DON'T QUITE KNOW IF IT'S IF IT'S A PROTECTED ZONE FOR THAT 220 FEET. BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE A HOUSE IN AREA WHICH DEFIES THE PURPOSE OF THAT PROTECTION ZONE. IF IT'S A CONSERVATION AREA. AND IT'S IN THE PROTECTIONS OWN WHY WOULD YOU HAVE A HOUSE IN THERE. I DON'T KNOW MAYBE THE THE DIAGRAM NEEDS TO BE CLEANED UP. >> OR. >> MAYBE I'M MISSING SOMETHING HELP HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE CONFLICTING. VISUAL VERSUS GORE. >> THIS LANGUAGE CARRIED OVER FROM A DIAGRAM IS KAREN FROM CURRENT CODE ZONE 3 IS THE AREA BETWEEN THE LANDLORD EXTENT OF TOWN FOR AND THE LANDLORD EXTENT OF THE MYAKKA RIVER PROTECTION EXCLUDING SOUND WANT AND THEY WIN IF WE CAN BRING THE DIAGRAM UP PLEASE. SOUND WANT IS A FIRE PROTECTION CLEARS OUT REQUIRE 35 FEET AROUND ANY STRUCTURE THAT IS PLACED. SOME 2. >> THE. >> AND THE FRONT SETBACK. >> THE REMAINDER. >> IS THE. >> FLOOR IS HERE THE 50 FOOT WIDE MYAKKA RIVER AREA BUFFER ZONE 3 IS THE REMAINDER. OF THE LAND WORD EXTENT. DOWN 4. >> EXCLUDING ZONE, ONE AND 2 WANTED TO IS EXCLUDED. >> FROM SOUND 3 THAT IS WHY A CAN BE PLACED IN SOUND ONE AND 2. SO I'M NOT SURE HOW HOW HOW MUCH MORE CLARIFICATION I CAN PROVIDE SO IS 3 IS THE LANDLORD EXTENT LINE BETWEEN ZONE FOR. AND THE AREAS THAT ARE EXCLUDED BY SOMEONE AND 2. >> BUT IF YOU LOOK OVER TO YOUR FAR RIGHT WHERE IT SAYS 220 FOOT WIDE MYAKKA RIVER PROTECTION ZONE. NOW OK NOW TAKE YOUR CURSOR AND PUT IT IN THAT HOUSE. THAT'S IN THAT 220 FOOT. IT IS AND THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS THAT PROTECTS. >> 220 FOOT MYAKKA RIVER PROTECTION INCLUDING THE REQUIREMENT FOR A ROBOT SEPTIC SYSTEM. IF WE'D THIS ALLOWED CONSTRUCTION ON PLATT OF LOTS AND THE MYAKKA RIVER PROTECTION ZONE AND COLLIER LEE AND A LOT NOTHING AND THE 228 THE CITY WOULD BE BUYING EVERY SINGLE LOT THAT IS SUBJECT TO THESE REGULATIONS. THERE ARE ALLOWED STAND THERE ARE PROTECTIONS I LIMIT THE AREA THAT THE HOME CAN BE PLACED BY RICK I RUN CREDIT SEPTIC SYSTEM TO PROTECT OUR WATER QUALITY AND WHERE IS THIS MYAKKA RIVER PROTECTION ZONE IN THE NORTH PORT CITY LIMITS. >> THAT WAS MY QUESTION >> I REMEMBER CORRECTLY THERE'S ONLY ONLY HANDFUL OF ALONG THE MYAKKA RIVER. >> THIS IS THE MY THAT. >> CAN PULL UP PROPERTIES AND I WILL TRY TO PULL UP THE MAP AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER. MOST OF THESE PROPERTIES. THAT ARE IN THE CITY LIMITS. >> OUR. >> RNA UNDER CONSERVATION. ICE WITH NOT OR THEY'RE OR THEY'RE DEVELOPED OR THEY ARE ON INCORPORATE SARASOTA COUNTY. BECAUSE THIS IS A. STATE DOESN'T WILD AND SCENIC RIVER AND THERE ARE AREAS OF IT THE TOUCH PORT WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE THESE REGULATIONS AND OUR CODE ALBEIT THERE MIGHT BE A HANDFUL OF PROPERTIES THAT ARE SUBJECT TO THESE REQUIREMENTS. ARE THE AREAS. >> RIGHT SO THAT IS GOING TO STATE FOREST IN THE OTHER PREDS AGRICULTURAL THIS IS ACTUALLY ON I US WITH MUCH. AS YOU CAN SEE HERE THERE ARE PROBABLY IS. >> THAT ARE ON INCORPORATED THAT COULD EVENTUALLY BE ANNEXED INTO THE CITY AND SO WE YOU KNOW AND SIMILARLY HERE. THESE PROPERTIES COULD EVENTUALLY HOME PARKS RIGHT ACTUALLY WE HAVE A CONSERVATION DISTRICT PROPERTY HERE AS WELL. A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION HERE AS WELL AND I THINK THE THE INTENTION WHEN THESE REGULATIONS WERE INCORPORATED WAS WON. THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT WITH THE STATE. >> TO ENSURE THAT WE WERE COMPLYING WITH MY OF WILD AND SCENIC MYAKKA RIVER. TO TO ENSURE THAT IN THE EVENT ON THE OF THOSE PRIMARIES TO COME INTO THE CITY LIMITS IN THE FUTURE. >> OR RATHER WAS SOLD RESOUND REDEVELOPED IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM. THAT PROTECTIONS WOULD BE IN PLACE AND AND IT IN OWNERSHIP HERE FOR YOU ON THIS >> IT INTERESTING IF MAYBE SOME OF THE FOCUS COULD BE ON THE ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE LAND FUNDS THAT THE COUNTY HAS LIKE MONEY IN. SOME OF THOSE PROPERTIES WITH ARE JUST USING THOSE FUNDS THAT ARE VACANT IT'S REALLY OF NO VALUE TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW THEM TO DEVELOP ON THOSE PROPERTIES, YOU KNOW IF THEY HAVE A WILLING. SELLER COURSE. BUT ESPECIALLY IF THEIR NORTH PORT CITY NOT SEEN VERY MANY THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN NORTH PORT CITY LIMITS THERE THERE SO. >> YOU KNOW THAT THIS THIS PIECE RIGHT HERE THAT'S THE E P THAT THAT IS OVER HERE IS WITH ON. >> THE FOREST. SO YOU KNOW WHILE THE REGULATIONS ARE IN PLACE AND WHILE WE ARE REQUIRED TO ALLOW SINGLE-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT I THINK MOST OF WHAT IS IMPACTED. >> IT'S IN THE CITY LIMITS ON THOSE REGULATIONS IS ALREADY UNDER SOME KIND OF CONSERVATION OR STATE OWNERSHIP. IT'S JUST YOU KNOW KEEPING THOSE REGULATIONS IN PLACE IN THE ABOUT WE HAVE PROPERTIES IN FUTURE. AND OUR CITY LIMITS. >> THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO MAINTAIN THAT WHILE ENSUE RIVER BECAUSE THAT IS ONLY IN THE SARASOTA COUNTY SECTION OF THE RIVER ♪ BECAUSE CHARLOTTE COUNTY HAD ALLOWED SO MUCH DEVELOPMENT PRIOR TO THIS RIVER DESIGNATION EVEN COMING UP THAT THEY CAN EVER QUALIFY FOR IT SO I GUESS. YOU LOOK AT THIS AS BEING PROACTIVE THAT THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE TOO. SURE WE MAINTAIN THAT DESIGNATION MYAKKA BUT I APPRECIATE MISTER IT DURING THAT UP BECAUSE I AND THE PRESS AT ALL THE TIME AND PEOPLE SAY YOU KNOW ALONG THE MYAKKA RIVER AND CITY OF NORTH PORT WE DON'T HAVE AND HOUSE IS ON DIRECTLY ON. RIVER THAT >> ALL RIGHT MOVING ON TO SECTIONS AND I'M ALMOST PROMISE YOU I'M ALMOST MOVING ON TO TABLE 4007006.2. >> THE IN THE EXISTING CODE. >> IT SAYS LIKE A HERITAGE TREE. AND IT SAYS ALL NATIVE TREES. IT SAYS THAT THEIR REMAINING ON SITE. OR THEY'RE BEING AT PLANTING. STAFF REMOVED THE REMAINING ON-SITE LANGUAGE OR AT PLANTING LANGUAGE. >> BECAUSE IT WAS KIND OF MORE ♪ >> UNDERSTOOD BY STAFF THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT. I AM A FIRM BELIEVER THAT OUR STAFF KNOWS THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT THIS DOCUMENT PERSEIDS ALL OF US. AND IT REALLY SHOULD BE OUTLINED THIS IS AT PLANTING THIS IS ON SITE. >> BECAUSE. I JUST. >> WANT TO HAVE THAT ADDED PROTECTION. WHEN I SAID STAFF HAD SAID THAT THEY NEED A COMMISSION CONSENSUS. >> AND THERE'S NO HARM NO POLLEN ADDING THE SIMPLE WORDS. TO THIS LANGUAGE. PROTECTS IN THE FUTURE. AND IT'S CLEAR EDGE IN THE FUTURE WHEN STAFF IS NO LONGER HERE COMMISSION IS NO LONGER HERE TO VOUCH FOR WHAT WAS THE INTENT BECAUSE IT WOULD BE UP TO WHOEVER AT THE HELM TO MAKE THAT INTERPRETATION OF INTENT, LET'S MAKE IT CLEAR AND UNDERSTOOD NOW. ♪ ♪ AND HAVE REMAINING ON SITE OR AT PLANTING. BUT ON TABLE 4007006.3. IT'S DIFFERENT. >> SO IF WE COULD I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NEED A CONSENSUS TO STAFF JUST AGREES TO ADD 3 SIMPLE WORDS REPEATEDLY. EACH ONE OF THOSE IS TO REMAIN ON SITE OR AT PLANTING. >> WHAT'S SO RIGHT NOW JUST AS HERITAGE I DON'T MEAN TO CONSENSUS ON YOU KNOW QUITE FRANKLY WE'VE GOT YOUR ON THURSDAY ON STATE TO STATE. ONE ONE DAY LAST WEEK. >> WE WORKED THROUGH THEM UNFORTUNATELY WITH MY SCHEDULE AND STUFF ON SCHEDULE WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION. >> SO HE HAS NO OBJECTION TO INCLUDING THOSE OUR PATIENTS AND WE WE CAN MOVE ON FROM THIS OK JUST TO THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> IF YOU GO TO THE TABLE ABOVE. >> THERE'S A. >> DBH SLASH 3 IN THE SLASH PINES LEE. >> SLASH HAS 2 MEANINGS IT COULD OR DIVIDED BY I'M THE FIRST ONE IS DBH DIVIDED BY 3 I THINK IT'S JUST AGAIN CLEAR AND UNDERSTOOD SAY DBH AND THE WORDS DIVIDED BY BECAUSE THE NEXT ONE DOWN IS. SLASH HAS A DIFFERENT MEANING IT'S 4 POINT SLASH PALM WHICH MEANS PER JUST PUT THE SIMPLE LANGUAGE IN THERE SO THAT IT'S CLEARLY UNDERSTOOD BECAUSE THERE ARE THE 2 MEETINGS WITH US LATCH AND THAT CARRIES OVER. TO ANOTHER WHERE IT SAYS 12 SLASH PALM. UNDER THE SABAL PALMS IS THAT 12. >> PALMS PER PAUL TO COUNT AS IT'S NOT CLEAR AND IT YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S KIND OF SPELLED OUT FOR CLEAR INTERPRETATION. >> IT 12 POINTS POINTS. YES, 12 CREDITS. EVEN SAYING THAT STOCKS ARE PROBLEM THAT FRONT COMPLICATION CREDITS PER POINT BASIS RIGHT HERE. YOU DON'T HAVE THE SCREEN UP BUT YES WITH EASY TO DO. WE WILL ADDRESS THE >> AS YOU LOVE YOUR LITTLE PICTURE TO MAYORS POINT ABOUT THE DRIP EDGE AND STUFF LIKE THAT REALLY VERY GOOD. >> I THINK WE ARE BOTH MY LAST REQUEST SIMPLE LITTLE REQUEST. IF YOU GO TO SECTION 8006.5 SAYS PROTECTION REGULATIONS AND IT'S REGARDING WETLANDS. >> THE WAY THAT IT'S WRITTEN IN THE DRAFT IS IT'S REMOVING FIRST SECOND AND 3RD. >> WE ACTION IN THE CURRENT CODE EXISTING ULDC IT SAYS. >> FIRST PRIORITY SECOND PRIORITY 3RD PRIORITY IN THE FIRST PRIORITY IS TO AVOID FEELING WETLANDS. STAFF IS SAYING THAT YOU KNOW, HEY IT'S WRITTEN THERE BUT THE PRIORITY IS NOT. AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CLEARLY UNDERSTOOD THAT THE FIRST MOST IMPORTANT ACTION IS TO AVOID FILLING WETLANDS. THE SECOND IS TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACTS TO THOSE WETLANDS AND THE 3RD IS THE LEAST FAVORABLE AND THAT'S MITIGATION THOSE WORDS ARE POWERFUL WHEN YOU ARE TRYING TO CONVINCE A DEVELOPER HEY OUR FIRST PRIORITY IS TO PROTECT THOSE WETLANDS. THIS IS WHAT OUR NATURAL RESOURCE DIVISION IS IS SAYING THIS IS A HUGE PRIORITY COMPARED TO MITIGATION BECAUSE WHEN YOU JUST PUT IT IN A LITTLE LESS LIKE THAT. IT'S MITIGATION. WHAT WILL DO MITIGATION THAT'S POLICED ACCEPTED. SO I REALLY WOULD LIKE FOR THEM FOR THE CODE TO SPELL OUT. THE FIRST MOST IMPORTANT ACTION IS TO AVOID FILLING IN THE WETLANDS THE SECOND IS TO MINIMIZE ADVERSE IMPACT AND THE 3RD IN PRINT THE SEAS LEAST FAVORABLE ACTION IS TO PROVIDE MITIGATION I THINK IT WILL GIVE YOU GUYS TEETH. AND SHOWS THE WORLD THAT THIS IS WHAT WE WANT. SO IF WE COULD GET CONSENSUS TO CHANGE THAT LANGUAGE. MAYOR. STAFF IS AMENABLE TO JUST GO AHEAD AND CHANGE IT ON THEIR OWN THAT WORK TOO. >> IN OUR OPINION THE ORDER IN WHICH WE'VE STATED THOSE REFLECTS THE. >> ORDER OF PRIORITY ALONG WIN. THE CONTACTS SENSITIVE SITE DESIGN REQUIREMENTS PROVIDE FOR PRESERVING THE FUNCTION INTEGRITY OF NATURAL FEATURES ON SITE NATURAL RESOURCES AND ENVIRONMENTAL SYSTEMS WE THINK THE THEME OF THE ENTIRE ULDC MAKES THAT CLEAR. >> AND CERTAINLY MAKE THOSE CHANGES IF THERE'S CONSENSUS FROM THE COMMISSION. >> I REALLY THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO SPELL IT OUT FIRST SECOND AND 3RD FIRST BEING THE MOST IMPORTANT 3RD BEING THE LEAST FAVORABLE. SO MAYOR IF WE COULD GET A CONSENSUS FOR THAT PLEASE. >> YOU WANT >> I WOULD REFERRING ACTION TO AVOID FEELING WHAT YOU WANT THAT NUMBER WAS SO WOULD IT WOULD READ. >> A CITY SHELTER PRIORITIZE WETLAND PROTECTIVE ACTIVITIES AS FOLLOWED. >> WANT FIRST MOST IMPORTANT IS TO AVOID FILLING WETLAND RESOURCES. SECOND IS TO MINIMIZE ADVERSE IMPACTS TO THOSE WETLANDS THAT CANNOT BE REASONABLY BE AVOIDED AND REZA CECIL LEAST FAVORABLE ACTION PROVIDE COMPETENCE COMP COMPENSATE TORY MITIGATION BE A STATE PERMITTING PROCESS. I THINK IT ADDS TEETH TO WHAT'S THERE. SO THAT'S MY CONSENSUS ME. I LIKE THE NUMBERING BECAUSE MAKES EACH ONE. >> ORGANIZED WELL INDIVIDUAL TO RATHER THAN IT BEING ALL LUMPED TOGETHER LIKE THIS IS OUR INTENT TO DO THIS ALL TOGETHER BUT THE FIRST THING SHOULD BE AVOID FILLING IN WELL, I LIKE HIM SO UP. >> GOOD WITH MISSION. CONSENSUS. BUT I ASK FOR IS A CONSENT, YES. MCDOWELL COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL TOGETHER YOU'RE YES, MICHELLE AND THEN CLEARS STATED SEMINOLE COUNTY ARE NOW. OKAY, SO THAT'S AND CORRECT. GET THE REST OF YES, I WILL BE FINE. >> I I MEAN. COMMISSIONER OKAY, YES, I DID YES. >> THERE'S YOUR NOW HAVE WE HAD A MEETING I'D BE GETTING A MOTION WITH PAST 4 TO ONE. ALL RIGHT, YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE COMMISSIONER I DO HAVE JUST 2 LITTLE ONES. I'M LOOKING AT PREVIOUS CODE FOR THAT REFUND. THE TREE BANK WE HAD A CODE AND ULDC CHAPTER 45 DASH 7 SEE WAS A RELOCATION OPTION. I'M SURE IT'S NOT VERY FAVORABLE IT'S NOT VERY LIKELY NEWS, BUT IT STILL WAS IN THE TREE CODE THAT IF A DEVELOPER HAD A THAT COULD BE MOVED TO THE CITY OR THE SCHOOL BOARD OR THE COUNTY COULD MOVE IT AT THEIR EXPENSE TO A LOCATION. THIS WAS PROMPTED MOSTLY BY ONE PART AND THEY WERE MOVING TREES ON THEIR SITE, YES THEY PAID FOR THAT. BUT IF THERE'S A TREE THAT'S NEARBY DEVELOPMENT THAT COULD GO REALLY NICE ON A CITY-OWNED LOT OR SCHOOL BOARD LOT. HAVING THIS IN PLACE THIS RELOCATION IS IMPORTANT AS AS AN OPTION AND IT'S NOT IN THE CODE RIGHT NOW AND I'M CURIOUS IF WE COULD ADD THAT BACK IN SOMEHOW SOME WAY. AS A VIABLE OPTION TO BE USED. YOU KNOW GOING TO PAY FOR IT. WELL, THIS IS 5TH. LET'S SAY IT'S ON OF A LOT THAT'S BEING PRIVATELY DEVELOPED AND THE CITY GOES MY GOSH THAT TREE WOULD GO GREAT ON OUR PROPERTY THAT WE'RE BUILDING NEW POLICE HEADQUARTERS ON AND IT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. WE WILL PAY TO MOVE THAT PRODUCT THAT TREE OVER TO OUR PROPERTY USING TREE FUND MONEY. INSTEAD OF CUTTING DOWN A HERITAGE TREE. AND JUST MOVING ACROSS AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE WE HAVE HAD THIS DISCUSSION WHEN WE WERE DOING THE TREAT CODE. JUST A FEW YEARS AGO AND WE ADDED THAT PROVISION IT AND NOW IT'S NOT IN THERE SO I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE IT BE PUT BACK >> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A TREE THAT'S ON ON SITTING PROBABLY GOING FROM CITY-OWNED YOU TALK ABOUT PRIVATE COMPANIES GOING TO DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY WANT TO IT DOWN AND THIS AND THAT NATURAL RESOURCE GOES. OH MY GOSH THAT'S POINT AS AGE WE WOULD PAY TO HAVE IT MOVED ACROSS THE THAT'S MILLIE SEE THOSE TREES AND HER AS WELL IN PARK, THERE ARE A $100,000. HER TRADE HE SPENT A MILLION DOLLARS I UNDERSTAND THAT I JUST I DON'T SAY IF YOU WANT TO PUT IT IN THERE JUST BECAUSE IT LOOKS GOOD BUT IN PRACTICALITY I DO EVERYTHING YOU KNOW ARE WE TO SAY THAT IN PRACTICALITY IT WON'T WORK MAY BE MOVING A TREE FOR $100,000 WOULD PRESERVE THIS MASSIVELY BEAUTIFUL HERITAGE OAK TREE TO BE MOVED ACROSS THE STREET OR MOVED ACROSS A LOT LINE TO BE PLACED ON CITY-OWNED PROPERTY. >> AND OF COURSE THE COMMISSION WOULD HAVE TO ALLOCATE THE FUNDS FOR THAT OUT OF THE TREE FUND BUT THAT'S WHAT WE DREAM AND IS THERE FOR IS TO USE IT FOR PLANTING TREES WILL MY NOT MOVING USE IT FOR FOR MOVING RELOCATION. >> YOU WANT TO. >> WELL I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WANT TO WEIGH IN ON I'M. >> WE DIDN'T CARRY IT FORWARD BECAUSE IT HAS NOT BEEN UTILIZING LARGER TREES ARE MORE DIFFICULT OR RELOCATING THE SURVIVABILITY RATE IS SUBSTANTIAL. ♪ SURVIVING IN PARK. AMOUNT OF MONEY INVESTED ENSURING THEIR SURVIVABILITY WAS PROBABLY A SIGNIFICANT POINT IN TIME FOR THAT MATTER. >> I THINK YOU KNOW WE CAN CERTAINLY INCORPORATE THIS BUT. THAT THE LANGUAGE I I WOULD PREFER IF THE LANGUAGE STARTS AT ONE AT THE OPTION OF PROPERTY IS WE CAN'T FORCE TO IMPRESS SHOULD WE WE CAN'T FORCE THE PROPERTY OWNER TO ALLOW THE CITY TO RELOCATE A TREE. >> SO I I THINK THAT LANGUAGE AS AS IT EXISTS. IT'S TO BE BROUGHT FORWARD SHOULD BE TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THIS IS A NEGOTIATION AND NOT A MANDATE. >> AS WITH THE APPLICANTS FROM SHUN. SO I JUST WANT ITS IN THEIR 45 7 I COULD BETTER. I THINK THE CITY ATTORNEY WANTS A COMMISSIONER. THANK YOU MAYOR, I JUST WANT REMIND ALL PARTICIPANTS IN THE MEETING TODAY THAT WE AS ALWAYS UTILIZING CLOSED CAPTIONING SOFTWARE THAT HELPS PEOPLE ACCESS. THE MEETING IN THE CLOSE CAPTION SOFTENER DOES NOT WORK PROPERLY. SPEAKERS INTERRUPT SO IF YOU COULD JUST IS VERY DIFFICULT ON STAFF TO ENSURE THAT WE SPOKE PUBLICLY SINCE THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER AMBRIDGE. >> YES THANK YOU. LISTEN TO I MEAN. I THINK COULD BE PART OF THE MITIGATION PROCESS FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER, NOT NOT SOLELY ON THE COST TO THE CITY. YOU KNOW IF THEY WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND THEY WILL DONATE HISTORY WILL MOVE THIS TREE. I'M SURE THE CITY PROPERTIES AND WILL ACCEPT IT AND TRY TO TOUCH, YOU KNOW LET US SURVIVE, BUT NORMAL NORMAL OUT THERE WHEN YOU WHEN YOU MOVE TREES, YOU'RE LOOKING AT A 10% LOSS. AUTOMATICALLY IN AND MOVING THE TREES BECAUSE OF DAMAGE TO THE ROOT SYSTEMS AS YOU KNOW MAYOR, YOU KNOW IT DOES TAKE A LOT OF PEOPLE GO AHEAD AND TAKE THAT THAT WOULD BE LIKE THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY ON THE UPDATE OF OF THE TREES BUT TO HAVE THE CITY. A 100,000 OR EVEN 10,000 TO HAVE IT REMOVED OF PRIVATE PROPERTY ON PROPERTY. >> I DON'T THINK THAT'S VIABLE BECAUSE IT'S STILL A GAMBLE. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE 100% ACCURACY ON THAT SURVIVING SO I I JUST DON'T SEE IT AS BEING NECESSARY UNLESS IT'S PART OF MITIGATION FOR THE HOMEOWNER AT THE HOME THAT'S MY OPINION ON THIS. >> COMMISSIONER YOU KNOW. >> COMMISSIONER MUCH BRINGS UP A GOOD POINT YOU KNOW IT COULD BE USED AS A MITIGATION YOU KNOW IF A DEVELOPER SAYS HEY IT'S GOING COST ME WITH $20,000 TO PAY MITIGATION FEES HEY INSTEAD OF PAYING THOSE MITIGATION FEES IN THE CITY WANTS A TREE ACROSS THE STREET, YOU KNOW. >> IT COULD BE WORDED I JUST DON'T WANT THE THE WHOLE THING IS I DON'T WANT THE OPTION TO BE A LOST WE HAD A GREAT DISCUSSION ABOUT IT AND I JUST DON'T WANT THE OPTION TO BE THE LAST THAT'S ALL THAT'S REASON WHY BRINGING THAT UP. YOU KNOW OFFER CONSENSUS. CAN ASK FOR CONSENSUS AND TO HAVE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STAFF WILL COME UP WITH. >> ADDING RELOCATION OPTION TO BE INCLUDED INTO THIS DRAFT. USING CHAPTER 45 DASH 7 SEE AS A GUY. COMMISSIONER LANGDON. >> I VERY MUCH LIKE THE IDEA HERE OF PERHAPS POSITIONING IT AS A MITIGATION OPTION. >> SO I WOULD BE A YES. >> I'D BE A YES, I UNFORTUNATELY THINK IT'S A FEEL GOOD. AND THOUGH IT SOUNDS REALLY GOOD. BUT IN PRACTICALITY OF YOU KNOW JUST LIKE OUR PREVIOUS TREE ORDINANCE REQUIRED A 35% CANOPY. THAT WAS THE CASE WITH HAVE A LOT OF HOME SITES WITH A LOT OF TREES ON HIM BY NOW, BUT IT SOUNDS REALLY GOOD ON PAPER THE OPTION IS OUT THERE AND IT'S NOT GOING TO. ANYTHING. WHAT'S WHAT'S THAT WHAT'S THE HARM. VICE OF DO. KNOW COMMISSIONER AVERAGE. COMING. >> YEAH, I'M COMING I GOT HIT BUTTONS. I'D BE YES AS LONG AS AS PART OF THE MITIGATION I DO NOT WANT TO COME YOU KNOW THE COST OF THE CITY SO AS I STATED EARLIER THAT'S THE WAY I'D GO WITH IT. OKAY THANK YOU SO THANK YOU. >> SOMETHING I BELIEVE THAT'S ALL I HAVE OKAY. COMMISSIONER LANGDON ANYTHING ELSE I'M ALL SET. THANK YOU MAYOR. VICE MAYOR. COMMISSIONER EMRICH ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD. >> NO MA'AM I EVERYTHING'S COVERED WAS WORRIED ABOUT SO I THINK IT WAS A GREAT CONVERSATION, SO THANK YOU. >> 1 ONE FOUND A PICKY ABOUT THAT WREAKED HAVOC IN WE TALKED ABOUT AND SHOULD VICE MAYOR. IT MEANT THAT JUST PLAN FOR TREES OR YOU'RE DARN RIGHT WE COULD DO THAT ON OUR OWN PROPERTY AND NOT HAVE INVOLVE ANY PRIVATE CITIZEN WITH WHERE ARE WE WITH THAT TREE CANOPY MY UNDERSTANDING THAT BEEN WAITING FOR THAT TO COME THROUGH BEFORE WE PLANT A TREE AND PEOPLE TELL ME WHAT YOU HAVE ALL THIS OFF MORE OUT THERE THAT YOU CAN TELL YOU EXACTLY WHERE THE TREES ARE AND HOW MANY THERE ARE SO WHERE ARE >> I AM EXCITED TO ANNOUNCE THAT STEPHEN AND HIS TEAM HAVE MADE GREAT STRIDES TOWARD PREPARING THE TREE CANOPY STUDY. AND WE HAVE A DRAFT UNDER SAY WE'RE 95% COMPLETE SO TRUDEAU'S TO STEP ON HIS TEAM AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING ABLE TO BRING THAT OUT FOR YOU AND NOW THAT WE HAVE AN URBAN FORESTER ♪ >> WIND ONBOARD RIGHT THAT REALLY BUT A LOT OF INPUT AND MEAT INTO THAT AND IT'S SOMETHING YOU HAVE A PLAN, I'M A BIG FAN OF HAVING. >> EVERYTHING YEAH SO THAT'S GREAT. YES, OKAY. >> OKAY, AND THAT IF I COULD. >> JUMP IN WITH ♪ >> NEXT STEPS. >> EITHER NOW OR AFTER PUBLIC AT YOUR AT YOUR DISCRETION. >> WANT TO CAN JUST THAT'S WHAT PUBLIC COMMENT AND RIGHT. ALL RIGHT GO AND TAKE ALL RIGHT. >> NEXT PER THE CITY COMMISSION DIRECTION ON APRIL 22ND WE ARE. A DRAFT COMPREHENSIVE. >> AND. AMENDMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE ULDC AND THE DRAFT ULDC TO PROVIDE FOR LIMON IT SINGLE-FAMILY AND ACTIVITY CENTER 6 ON THE WEST SIDE OF I 75. DID TOO. >> THAT CHANGE WE WERE UNABLE TO PRESENT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING ADVISORY BOARD ON MAY SECOND IT. THEY WERE UNABLE TO ACCOMMODATE A SPECIAL MEETING SO THE ITEM NEEDED TO BE CONTINUE 60. YOU WILL SEE ON YOUR MAY 14 AGENDA. AND ITEM REGARDING ORDINANCE 2024 DASH 0, 9, WHICH IS THE ULDC ASSOCIATED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS. THERE WILL BE NO ATTACHMENTS BECAUSE THE REQUEST WILL BE TO CONTINUE THAT TO YOUR MAY 28TH MEETING. SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THOSE CHANGES AND FINALIZE THE DOCUMENTS HENRY UPLOAD SO WE BE LOOKING AT FIRST READING OF THE ULDC ASSOCIATED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS ON MAY 28. THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WILL NEED TO BE SUBMITTED TO THE STATE FOR REVIEW, REQUIRES A MINIMUM 30 DAYS. IF THE STATE HAS NO COMMENTS WILL BRING IT FOR SECOND READING AS SOON AS WE RECEIVE THEIR NOTIFICATION. IF THERE ARE COMMENTS WE WILL WORK THROUGH THEM HOPEFULLY VERY QUICKLY IN ORDER TO KEEP THE PROCESS MOVING FORWARD. ARE PRESENTING TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY BOARD TONIGHT. DROPS CHAPTER 6 OF NATIONAL REACH RESOURCE AS WE DID IT HAVE TO DO A SPECIAL MEETING WITH THEM ON APRIL 22ND, SO YOU COULD HAVE THEIR FEEDBACK TODAY. UNFORTUNATELY WERE UNABLE TO SO. WHEN WE BRING BACK THE FINAL CONSENSUS ITEMS TO THE CITY COMMISSION. I THINK WE'LL HAVE ONE FINAL WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS COMBINED ON THE CONSENSUS ITEMS THAT INCLUDED DEVELOPMENT MASTER PLAN LIKE. APPROVAL PROCESS WITH EVERY PROJECT COMING TO A MISSION. AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING REQUIREMENT. THOSE WERE 2 BIG TICKET ITEMS FROM EARLY ON IN THE COMMISSION WANTED TO SEE THE ENTIRE PACKAGE OF THE CODE COMPATIBILITY PROTECTIONS THAT ARE BEING INCORPORATED FAR AS TRANSITIONAL HIGH AND LANDSCAPE OFFERS AND THE LIKE ASSOCIATED WITH THE NEW ZONING DISTRICTS TO THE NEW ZONING DISTRICTS WE HAVE AS WE WORK THROUGH THE PROCESS CHANGED NAME OF A MACSWAN AND IMAX TOO. UNDER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WILL BE MEDIUM THAT CITY CORRIDOR AND HIGH-DENSITY CORRIDOR. >> SO FOR THOSE ON DISTRICT MEANS TO ALIGN BETTER WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE'RE LOOKING AT CT WHICH IS QUARTER TRANSITIONAL THAT WILL BE FOR THE MEDIUM THAT CITY. >> AND THEN. >> 41 C OR FOR THE HIGH DENSITY. SO THAT'S A CHANGE THAT YOU'LL BE SEEING COMING FORWARD. OTHER CHANGES THAT YOU WILL SEE IN THE FINAL DRAFT ARE PROHIBITIONS AND OVERALL FOR PROVISION CHAPTER ONE THAT ADDRESSES SENATE BILL 2 FT HOUSE A ONE C WHICH PROHIBITS LOCAL GOVERNMENTS FROM. AND JOSE MORATORIUMS OR ADOPTING MORE STRINGENT OR BURDENSOME REGULATIONS THROUGH JUNE 30TH 2027. SO WE'LL HAVE A GENERAL PROVISION WHERE AND THE PROPERTY OWNER SUBMITS TO THE CITY IN WRITING THAT WE HAVE ADOPTED A MORE RESTRICTIVE PROVISION THAT THE APPLICABLE REGULATION WILL ALL TO WHATEVER WAS PLACE. SEPTEMBER 27TH 2022. WE WILL BE CALLING OUT CERTAIN PROVISIONS THAT WE NOW ARE CLEARLY MORE RESTRICTIVE AND THEY WANT CORPORAL CORPORATE LANGUAGE THAT INDICATES THAT THIS PROVISION WILL BE EFFECTIVE ON AND THEN REPEAL OR EXPIRATION UP THE BILLS I'M NOT IN THE MEANTIME WE WILL STRIVE TO OBTAIN VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE WORKING WITH PROPERTY OWNERS WEEK. THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE JUST AREN'T GOING TO ABLE TO MANDATE WITHOUT GOING SIDEWAYS UP THIS. THE SENATE BILL ON HOUSE BILL. SO WE WANT TO PROCEED WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY PROVISIONS THAT ARE GOING TO IMPROVE THE PROCESS THAT GOING TO PUT FOCUS ON OUR NATURAL RESOURCES AND THAT ARE NOT CLEARLY WARBURTON SOME MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN ME, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE NEW ZONING DISTRICTS YOU'VE GOT A NEW ZONING DISTRICT. IT'S SO I WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF WHERE WE ARE AND WHAT WILL BE COMING FORWARD. MAY 28 COMP PLAN AMENDMENT. JUNE LIKELY THE JUNE WORKSHOP FOR THE FINAL CONSENSUS QUESTIONS ON THE DRAFT ULDC. >> QUESTIONS ON THAT SCHEDULE OR WHAT'S COMING DOWN THE COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. WHEN WILL WE SEE DEFINITIONS. >> YES, DEFINITION SECTION THE APPENDICES ACTUALLY THIS TO THANKS. THANK YOU MA'AM. YOU REMINDED ME UP. >> THE DEFINITION SECTION WILL WELL KEEP EMERGING ALL THOSE TRAFFIC SPRING EVERYTHING BACK FOR THAT FINAL WORKSHOP FOR THE CONSENSUS QUESTIONS. THE DEFINITION SECTION IS NOT GOING TO BE SUBSTANTIAL. WE ARE THE MIND THAT IF IT'S COMMONLY UNDERSTOOD TIME IF YOU CAN LOOK IT UP IN MERRIAM WEBSTER AND FOR OUR PURPOSES IT DOES NOT NEED TO BE MODIFIED IN ANY WAY IT WON'T BE INCLUDED IN EUROPE AND THE SEAS WERE LOOKING TO THE TECHNICAL TERMS. SO THERE SHOULD BE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNTS OF REVIEW AS FAR AS THAT'S CONCERNED WANT TO COMMISSIONER MC 1000 QUESTIONS AND THE DRAFT THAT REAL RESOURCES WITH ACTION WAS ABOUT THE ENGINEERING AND DESIGN STANDARDS MANUAL. THAT IS A PUBLIC INITIATIVE. THEY DO HAVE A DRAFT. THAT IS IN PROGRESS. >> DEVELOPMENT SERVICES STAFF IS PREPARED TO INCORPORATE ALL OF THOSE TECHNICAL SPECIFICATION PROVISIONS THAT ARE ON THE CURRENT ULDC AND TO OUR HAND THIS ISN'T THE ABOUT THAT THE PUBLIC WORKS INITIATIVE AND THE ULDC INITIATIVE DO NOT WRAP UP AT THE SAME TIME. SO WHAT WE WOULD BE PULLING FORWARD IS WHAT CURRENTLY EXISTS IN THE ULDC. COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL YOU OKAY. >> WHEN DO YOU THINK WILL HAVE FIRST READING PROBLEM IS THAT GOING TO BE SUBJECTED TO COMP PLAN. >> IT WILL BE SUBJECT TO STATE REVIEW. SO IF THE COMMISSION HERE ON MAY 28. THERE IS SOME THE 30 DAY REVIEW RECEIVING THE TRANS MEN DEEMING IT COMPLETELY. WE WOULD BE LOOKING A LIVE PUBLIC HEARING DATES PROVIDED WE DON'T HAVE ANY SUBSTANTIAL COMMENTS FROM THE STATE THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. >> JUST TO BE CLEAR THE STATE GIVES THE GREEN LIGHT FOR OUR FIRST READING OF COMP PLAN AND WE WILL HAVE FIRST READING OF ULDC. >> FIRST RATING OF COMP PLAN WILL BE MAY 28 THAT AT THE STATE GIVES US PRAY LOVE. ACTUALLY WHETHER THEY GIVE US THE GREEN LIGHT OR NOT WE WERE PLAYING FOR FIRST READING OF THE ULDC. SECOND READING THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT AND THE ULDC ON THE SECOND MEETING JULY THAT IS A PROVIDE IT. WE DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE STATE THAT ARE SUBSTANTIAL THAT DELAYS THE SCHEDULING OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND THAT WE ARE ABLE TO WRAP UP THE FINAL PIECES. INCLUDING THE COMPANION CODE AMENDMENT AND GET THOSE THROUGH LEGAL REVIEW WHICH I'M I'M CONFIDENT THAT WE THEY ARE WE ARE TOWARD THE END HERE ON THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE PULL IT ALL TOGETHER OBJECT TO STAY TRUE THANK YOU. >> THINK I HAVE THOSE STATES ON DOWN HERE. AND THE THING MISTER EVERETT ANY LAST BEFORE WE GO PUBLIC PUBLIC COMMENT. YOU LOOK AT. >> ONE COMMENT PUBLIC. OKAY, YEAH, I JUST I JUST WANT A MS. BARNES AND STEPHEN. I THINK GRAPH AND THEY'RE WORKING AS FAST AS POSSIBLE AND I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF INTERFERENCE, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY BRING IT FOR BUT I I JUST WANT TO THANK THEM FOR STAYING STEADFAST MOVE IT THROUGH THIS I KNOW IT'S NOT JUST ON THIS OR WHOLE DEPARTMENT SO THEY'RE WORKING GREAT TOGETHER AND THEY'RE GIVING US 1 ONE HEALTH PRODUCT COMING BACK SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU AND AND APPRECIATE ALL THEIR HARD WORK THAT'S ALL I WANT TO PUT OUT THERE. I. >> RIGHT AND I KNOW THOSE SENTIMENTS AS WELL THANK THIS IS I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE DOING THIS ALL. AND THE MOST COMPLICATED. GEOMETRY PROOF THAT I HAD TO DO DOESN'T EVEN COMPARE TO WHAT YOU GUYS. I HAVE HAD TO DEAL WITH TAKING AND THE INPUT OF OUR CITIZENS AND RESIDENTS AND COMING UP THE COMPROMISE. I MEAN THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE HAVE TO DO. SO THANK YOU AGAIN, MAKING IT CLEAR. WHAT DOING HERE WITHOUT A >> DO >> WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT KNOW. FOR SURE WITH YES, I KNOW YEAH, WOW. WE ALL THAT CITY MANAGER WE GOOD. IT'S K. THEY ALSO ALL RIGHT SO IT IS 1133 I ENDURE THIS THANK YOU