city's job. It may be part of economic development's job. I just don't feel that it's a high enough bar and it's not general enough. It's not broad enough. It's not all-encompassing enough.
I don't like that that as a mission we're here empowering the success. Yeah, we want to see everybody be successful, businesses, people, but is that why we're here as a government? Our mission as a government is to provide the
highest quality of services to try to create the highest quality of life for our citizens. And how do we do it? Through transparency, engagement, respect. Lots of thought went into that. I wouldn't want to change that at all. >> Okay? >> And I feel the same way on the vision
statement. Again, I have a to finish it and then I'll let other people talk. I don't know what authentic means. Authentic is a great word. I looked it up and it means true to its origin. Is that really what our vision is? Is to
be true to our origin. One might have a lot of different perspectives on what this city's origin is. Some people would say it's an escape from Port Charlotte to the woods where nobody should bother me and interfere with my lifestyle. Other people will say
it's something totally different. um maybe has to do with family oriented uh a lot of green space all that but it's so so subject to interpretation I I to me you know be innovative friendly engaging and
sustainable community where residents businesses and visitors can flourish very general very broad it's a real visionary statement this statement hangs me up because I think it's going to confuse everybody not just those that that are here, but those that are
outside. Yet, it's a great word to use. It's comforting. It feels good and it's part of some of the verbiage we could use, I think, as we promote our city, but I'm not sure it belongs in a vision statement. So, anyway, that's my two cents or five cents.
>> Thank you, sir. Vice Mayor, you're up. >> Uh, thank you, Mayor. It's not often that I disagree with Commissioner Stokes, um, but I really love the mission. I I I
it really speaks to me. Um and and we are servants of the community. We don't always do what they would like us to do. Um but I always think that we serve not
just the people who are here today, but the people who will be here in five years and 10 years and 15 years. So I really like it. empowering the success. I I really understand
Commissioner Stoke's concern about that word. I get it. But boy, what motivates so much of what we do, and maybe it's more what motivates me,
is helping to create the kind of environment where people can flourish. our roots. And I'll just I'll flip a little bit to the authentic character. I do agree with Commissioner Stokes about
authenticity and and what that word really means and we are so not about that. We are really about changing Northport while respecting
our history and our roots. uh but trying to create trying to create an environment in improving the lifestyle in in giving people the opportunity
to improve their quality of life. Yeah. there there's a heavy economic development aspect to that, but there's also a housing strategy aspect to that, a healthc care strategy to that. We talk
a lot about what a horrible thing it is for 90% of our workforce to leave here. that has such fundamental and farreaching negative consequences to
everybody who lives here and everybody every business that is located here. Um my entire professional career was living in one town and working for most of my
career in a different state. And I never put down real roots where I lived. It was where my professional career was. That's where I spent my money. That's where my friends were. That's where I visited in my free time.
So, I'm 100% um with Commissioner Stokes on the authentic character, but I love that aspect of serving our community and empowering the success of
everyone who's here. So much of what we do is all about that. Um, a lot of times people misunderstand our push to increase the commercial and industrial content of our land use.
It, you know, and and we talk a lot about, you know, balancing our taxes and all of that. It is really about improving the life of people here. Giving people economic opportunity here, not having to commute an hour
to work in a restaurant. Not that there's anything wrong with restaurant work. It's great work, but people should be able to do it here. Um, so I'd be very interested in how the
new mission statement or proposed mission statement hits everybody else. Personally, I really like it. Um, we can work on vision next, I guess. But that's all I have to say about that. >> Okay. Commissioner Dval.
>> Thank you, Mayor. I look at the mission statement, the current and the recommended. In the current statement, there's one verb to provide. In the recommended, there are three verbs.
Number one, to serve. And that's what government is supposed to be doing, serving. We don't provide anything. Taxpayers provide us the means. voters provide us, you know, with a with a job
to do. Um, but to serve, foster, and empower. I really like that. That's what we're here to do. We are here to serve,
foster, getting people involved, engagement, uh, and empowering giving the people back the power to get the things done so that they have a
quality of life that they and others will choose to be here for life. Thanks. >> Thank you, sir. Yeah, I'm pretty much on the same page with the vice mayor and uh commissioner Dval. I do like the
recommended. I do like the part about empowering the success of Northport residents. And it goes back to what Vice Mayor had said. Right now, a lot of people are leaving this community to go do their jobs and come home. There's a lot of travel time. Look at how 75 is.
It could really screw up their schedules by being caught in a traffic jam for a couple hours with having kids and daycare and this that and the other. but to have the businesses in town that empowers them to work within the community, stay within the community,
and not have to travel. If they choose to do so because of their careers, that's on them. That's fine. But to have the availability here for people to just drive down the road, go to work, it cuts down on a lot of time that they can be spending with their family or activities
or this, that, and the other. So, I'm in agreement that I like the recommended in the mission. And once we get to the vision, I'll have a few comments on that. I know Phil skipped ahead, but he doesn't pay attention anyway. So, um, that's that's all I have for that one.
What did you mention my name? >> But I'm I'm I'm good with the recommended. I think a lot of time is and effort has been put into this and I think it's pretty crystal clear. I I do like that. >> Okay. Um, Dad, just to continue to beat the
horse a little bit, you know, Commissioner Dval made a good point. I I like serve, foster, and empower. But I wonder if those words those aren't what's bothering me as much as,
you know, I guess it comes down to philosophically what what we think our real mission is. Is is is government's job to try to
empower the success or is it to provide services and and and a quality of life? Um, in in in my take it it's it's it's individuals
responsibilities and business's responsibilities to create their success. The city's government's job is to provide services. If it were up to the average citizen, there would be no government. But there are services that are basically
required. and how we do them is an important part of the mission statement. There's nothing in in the recommended language that addresses how we do anything. And transparency, engagement,
and respect are really important words. Equally as important, maybe more important, maybe a little less important than serve, foster, and empower. somehow maybe we can blend the two and and get in there what everybody wants because
let's not forget the the determination as to the mission and the vision of this city, make no mistake, sits with the five of us, not with staff, not with anybody else but this commission. And so it's important
that we look beyond what our goals and priorities are to some degree because right now in this day and age, our priorities focus around economic development, expanding some of our our quality of life amenities, but it's very
heavily focused on balancing our city financially. It's very economic developmentoriented and this entire branding concept serves that purpose more than it does to me any other purpose. It does serve other purposes,
but primarily that and I'm questioning whether or not after multiple years of refining, tweaking, discussing these mission and vision statements in our, you know, in in our retreats,
you know, do we simply flip to these two? I think they're not encompassing enough. They're not broad enough. They're not general enough. And and you know, for that reason, I I I would urge us to give a lot of thought to messing
with something that I think really is on point, and that's the current language. But again, it's, you know, I support the majority, so that's, you know, that's my comments. I'm taking my second shot, but that's it. >> All right. Thank you, uh, uh, Vice Mayor.
>> Uh, thank you, mayor. Um, I wasn't going here at all until I I heard Phil speak. Um, first I would challenge just one thing that you said, which is if it were up to the average citizen, there would be no government. I don't agree with
that. I think that the average the fictitious average citizen, it's sort of like what's the average temperature in Florida? I mean, what a meaningless concept that is. It's the range, you
know. Same thing I think with people who live in this city and and I have a comment to share with you in private about what you just said. Make sure I share it with you. But um I I think our citizens depend on us to lead. I think
our citizens depend on us to look to the future um and make sure we do the right things today that put our city um in a good position and personal
um feeling of mine. The empowering word for me is vitally important and and I I do agree. There are people living in this city who who fled more rapidly developing areas of
the state because they wanted peace and quiet. But folks, fast forward 50 and 60 years and let's face it, this city was being left behind in terms of innovation and and where
even the rest of the county was going, never mind the state or the country, we were really behind. and so is perhaps empowering
a dominant requirement of governments in more built out economically balanced areas. No, but that's not where the city of Northport is. So I do think empowering is a really important
concept. Do I think as a government we need to do more in in that realm than a lot of other places? I sure do. I sure do or I wouldn't be here. So, enough of that. I
did want to comment on the word endure. The problem I have with that is I have endured a lot in my life. It's sort of you have to punch your way through the the not so good times so you
can get to the other side and grow and have better times. So for me, the word endure has a very negative connotation. Certainly not intentional, but but I would just respectfully request that you look at that word. Um I get your point
about sustainability. That's fine. I'm not going to sharpen that axe. But um I I do have a problem with Endure. >> Okay. >> Where are you seeing that? >> Well, it was just the comments that Katy made. >> Oh, okay. Okay. I was going to say I'm not seeing it written.
>> Yeah. I wanted to say it now while it was fresh in my mind. So, >> yeah. The one thing that I I'm going to disagree with Commissioner Stokes on is I do not believe that it falls strictly on the commission. I think it falls on all staff. the commission, the staff,
that's how we represent oursel out there all the way down to and since Frankie's here, all the way down to the garbagemen. You go out there and no, they treat their customers respectful. They go back if there's a garbage can that was missed, there's an apology. That's that's how you treat your
citizens. That's the way it's supposed to be done. So, it should be all entailing all the way down to maintenance workers, all the way up to director, city manager, and the commission. So I think it's encompassing everything and possibly if if you wanted
to look at your recommended statement if you just added at the end of visitors just add through transparency, engagement and respect as your final statement. Just take the top off, put the bottom on in there. We got a got
that little jumbled and you've got everything in there that everybody has talked about so far up here. That's all I'm looking at. So, >> look at you the diplomat. >> Wow. >> Well, it's better than Plato over here,
>> Commissioner Deval. >> Thank you, Mayor. Um, I'm going to disagree with one of your statements you just made, and that is all the way down to uh the garbage men. To me, they're
the kings of Northport. Christmas just passed. I have two smaller recyclable bins. I asked for those so that I could put them in my garage. The larger ones don't fit. Well, because it was Christmas, I had a
lot of cardboard. So, I did something I don't normally do. When my bin was full, I took another box and I collapsed a bunch of boxes inside it and I sat it on top. And I was over at one of my neighbors
house when the recyclable guy came by and stopped, got out of his truck, picked up that box, put it in, and then dumped my dumpster. There's no way I would say all the way down to you can ask anyone in this city.
Our garbage men, if you want to use that term, they are a number one in this city. Period. Thank you. >> I believe that's what I was trying to say is, you know, that's how everybody
should be working out there. All right. Now, I've got nobody else in the queue. You want to move on to vision? >> Yeah, I'm just going to recap. >> You want some feedback for us? >> Um, well, I'm just going to recap what I think we need to do with this particular
one. Um it feels to me like there is um we are missing potentially the word transparency and the word respect. We have engagement in there fostering engagement. So we will go back and we will take a look at how we can include
the transparency and respect piece into that and come back to you with that as a suggestion. >> Awesome. >> Okay. So we move on to the vision um to be an innovative, friendly, engaging and sustainable community where residents, businesses and visitors can
flourish. Tipping it slightly to be an innovative, sustainable and thriving community whilst preserving the authentic character of Northport for residents, businesses and visitors. I will make a brief comment on uh brief comment on the word authentic.
When we worked with the strategic agency uh on the wording of some of this um the word that came back originally was endearing character. Um and to begin with when we reviewed it
as a team, we liked it. I sat on it, which is what I tend to do um for a while. And I realized that the word endearing in the same way that endearing can be seen as negative. Um when words are spoken, you get a picture in your head
or a feeling. And endearing spoke to wonderful little grandmas doing their knitting. Very sweet little children playing. those endearing images that we get of that word. And I realized that actually we don't just have an endearing
community. We have a strong community. We have some people who are very opinionated. Um and we as individuals either agree or don't agree with them. But what they are is uh whether their opinions are the same as ours or not, they are committed to this city. They
love this city. Um it's why we get the level of public comment that we do. Whether it is as we see it in our favor or not in our favor, people care about this city. And that's not actually an endearing quality. As was mentioned earlier, authentic is
this really broad word. For me to be authentic to myself, um, you know, I love cats. For Jane to be authentic to herself, she loves dogs. We're very different, but the word authentic can be used to describe both
of us if we are true to ourselves. We sat as a um as a comm's team and said, what is the word that can be used to describe every person in the community, whether they are or whether they have the same opinion as us, whether they are
the tree person, whether they are the economic development person, whether they are the person that wants to see building and not see building. How do you describe that broadly? And that's where we came up with the word authentic. We put it in specifically
so that it can explain all of the different facets, members, types, demographics of our community and our businesses and the visitors that come here, which is why we've used it. Um, obviously just wanted to explain that
these are um the mission, vision, and values that were set by yourselves. you have to be behind them. So open to comment on the vision. >> Go ahead, Vice Mayor. You're first. >> Um, wow. Words matter, don't they? A lot of
people have said that over my five years here on the Deis. Um, and they certainly do. When people ask me what I like most about Northport,
it's that we show up for each other. And to me, there's it's an essential characteristic of the city, and that's the word I like.
there there's um a common thread in all of what you said that is sort of basic and essential to this city. So I would respectfully um suggest that you look at the word essential or other. It's sort of what is
that very basic element that connects us all to each other. And that's what I don't want to lose as we grow. >> Yeah. >> Commissioner Stokes.
>> Yeah. Um the first half of both the current and the recommended statements are pretty similar. I mean we got innovative, we got, you know, sustainable. Um
what bothers what's bothering me a little is on the current I mean basically we're swapping out a community where residents, businesses and visitors can flourish. I even heard the vice mayor use the word flourish in her initial conversation with regard to the
mission statement. And yet here the recommended is um while preserving the authentic character of Northport for residents, businesses, and visitors. Some people don't want that. I I still
don't understand what authentic character means. I looked it up. It's there's a variety of definitions, but it's true to its origin. Genuine, real, original tradition. What original tradition? What do we want
to like stop? Let's just stop all development everywhere. No residential, no economic development. Let's just excommunicate a big chunk of people. So, we're just a small band of people living out in, you know, North Port Charlotte
away from, you know, back to our roots. That's that's what a lot of people in this city would say. I I you're flipping one of the most important parts of the vision, which is a community where residents, businesses, and visitors can
flourish. What better way to say what your vision is than to say preserving the authentic character of Northport residents, businesses, and visitors. Why? So what? What does that have to do with anything? I want a city where
people can flourish, businesses can flourish. I I just vision the recommended vision statement for me is even worse than the recommended vision statement for mission. But I hear the input from my fellow commissioners and you know I get their points. I just
don't agree. That's all. >> Thank you. Thank you. Uh Commissioner Dval. >> Thank you, Mayor. Um again I'll go back to the verbs and uh in our current statement it says to be
and then in our recommended it's to be well preserving and and I think that's important. Um, there are things in this city that people like and they don't want to be
just like every other city. I've traveled in every state in this country and in a lot of places you can go from one town to the next town and see the same thing over and over again. the same fast food restaurants.
There's nothing that differentiates them. That character that we have here is something that does differentiate us. And there's a lot of people, including me, that don't want to see that lost. Residents, businesses, and visitors can
flourish here, but we have to preserve some of what was. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Yeah. The only thing that I seen here, which may work, may not. I know it's going to
be redundant on using the words, but to be an innovative, sustainable, and thriving community while preserving the authentic community of Northport for residents, businesses, and visitors. It It puts the onus on the residents, and
the community is just a different word than character because Northport's changed. The community really hasn't, but Northport has. and visuals and economics and everything,
but the community has always been very endearing to their neighbors, this that and the other. So, I just look at it that way. And it's it's just a different word. It may be, like I said, redundant using community and community, but I think that's where the heart and soul of Northport really
stays. Y >> Commissioner Stokes. >> Yeah, I didn't want to forget to compliment you guys on the values. I thought that um the seven values were powerful and I loved the way they tied
to the pillars. I thought that was very well done and I thought that was really on point. So I really the entire package works for me right up to those two statements. But hey, you know, everybody's entitled to their opinions.
So, thank you though for that because I think we're really spot on with these recommended values. I think >> Vice Mayor, >> um I think from now on I'm going to refer to Commissioner Stokes as Mr. Segue.
>> Have you seen how he's done that with all of his comments? Um I'm happy to say I agree. I really like the recommended values as well and I think um even with the conversation um it still plays and sort of ties
everything together. So again, well done. This is hard work and um a lot of times people don't appreciate it, but clearly words matter. And
I'm I I really like this work. I think you've done a fantastic job. >> Okay. >> Anything else from the commission? Okay. >> Okay. So, when it comes to vision, um,
what I'm hearing is there's probably an issue around the word potentially authentic, but also it could be that we're getting hung up on the word preserving because there is an impossibility of preserving 100% what you came to Northport for.
um because it is changing. So my suggestion would be to go back and take a look at the word preserving and authentic um and revisit the word flourish. >> So some amendments also to vision to come back to you with.
>> All right. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> Moving on to values. >> Yes. >> Nice segue. Our current values are accountability, integrity, customer service, teamwork, and empowerment. Um our recommended are service, enrichment,
enduring opportunity, preservation, reliability, accountability and resiliency and that added enduring opportunity from sustainable opportunity and as mentioned each of those link to one of the strategic pillars. Um so open
to discussion on this one and then we will move on to taglines and then we'll move on to the very exciting logo section. Just I guess I use my thingy. >> Yeah, because I don't recognize you unless you're in there. Go ahead, Vice Mayor.
>> Thank you. I couldn't before. Um, yeah, preservation I I have a problem with. I I see it more as our job being guiding the growth um and protecting the essential nature
or character. um an essential the very if you strip everything else away what is that thing that connects us all I think the what did they say the
ship has left the dock yeah >> from a preservation point of view so now it's more protecting and guiding the growth as best we can >> that's it >> that's it >> short and short and sweet.
>> The one thing that I look at and I see you got one word on everything except for enduring opportunity. >> Yeah. >> I would just cut out enduring and make it opportunities. >> That's the way I look at it. That makes it simple and sweet. I mean,
>> it's just economic development and growth management opportunities. They're here. >> Yep. >> Come get them. >> Go ahead, Commissioner Dval. Thank you, mayor. I think that word preservation belongs there.
In all three of these, I'm seeing uh preservation and the last one preserving. I don't believe you picked those words out of the thin air.
You guys spent some time asking the citizens what do they want to see? And I think that's where those came from. And if we're here to serve, then we've got to be respecting what the
citizens are asking us for. I like it. >> That it mayor. >> Yeah. One more quick comment. um around the word preserving. The best example I can come up with, if we decided as a
community we wanted to preserve Warm Mineral Springs, then we will put a fence around it and not let anyone in. That's what preserving means. So, I just throw that out for consideration.
um and my previous comments stand. I think it's more guiding the growth and protecting um the green space and the environment and all of that. >> Done.
>> And Commissioner Stokes on this one. >> No, I like this. I think they hit it. >> They nailed it with the values. I think the values are fine. Okay. >> Okay. Thank you. Um, if we're in agreement, we can take out the word
enduring and just have opportunity. And then potentially I can we can go away and have a look at the word preservation. Um, not that we don't want to do preservation, but I think it's another word like sustainable that can have a dual meaning. Um, as you've just
said, to preserve something would mean um, >> put it on ice. putting it on eyes. Keep it. >> Yeah. Whereas it's more respecting. >> So we know trees are going to have to go, but in our head we should be thinking about green space and preserve.
And so let's go play with the word preservation, >> right? And that could be part of the game plan moving forward with economic development as part of the development is preservation within that development. So yes, it can work hand in hand. >> It's the balance of the two.
>> Yes. Yeah. Okay, are we ready for some taglines? So, these would be uh I'm just pausing on this screen. Um these would be the taglines that would sit underneath the
logo and we have been very focused on that balance piece. It's the balance of community and economic development which are the two pieces that came out. It's the preservation of what we have as a city and the growth and bringing both of
those in. One of the key things that was potentially missing from the 2008 2010 work that was done was not taking into consideration the business and the economic development side. We've been very focused on that working heavily with Elena and her team but also some
developers were part focus groups, businesses were part focus groups. So when we think of the tagline, we are thinking about bringing those two things together. So here are some of the options open for discussion. What we would like
here is what do you like? What do you not like? Are there any in here that are an absolute no to you? Is there anything in here that grabs you? Um so I'll just take you through. We have neighborly by nature embracing opportunity. So you can
see here how we are taking the community side of things. Neighborly by nature having two distinct meanings. We are neighborly. We talked about it earlier. We look out for our neighbors. We support each other. But also we are
neighbors that sit in nature. So that has a dual meaning which is the community side of things. But embracing opportunity is more of our growth aspect. We then have neighborly by nature and built for what's next. That speaks to some of the
um language that the economic development team use which is you know um built for business and empowered by community. We have unique in nature that came out in a lot of our um focus groups
and um and the survey that we have a very unique nature here. We aren't uh we aren't on the coast. We have waterways. We are very unique in that we have um the state park within our bounds but we empower that opportunity. Now again that
empower opportunity could be business focused but it could also be community focused. So this one's a little bit more bent towards community natural potential embracing community. Again, that natural potential speaking to the potential that we have as a city, speaking to the
potential that we want to give our community, but also natural being used as um a link back to our location where we are that green spaces naturally authentic. Again, I think we've already had conversations around the world authentic, so I think I know where that
one's going to go. but empowering community, natural charm, gateway city, um, and where nature meets momentum. >> So, digest and comment, >> Commissioner Stokes. >> Yeah, by far I love the first one,
neighborly by nature, embracing opportunity. I think that wins hands over. The others are good. It's a little weird. built for what's next. Interesting statement, you know, like some people will go, some people go,
"Yeah, I don't know. I like the first one. Unique in nature, empowering opportunity." Again, I'm hung up with some of the definitions of words and what people will interpret them to be natural potential. The others don't meet the bar as far as
as as I'm concerned, but boy, neighborly by nature, embracing opportunity is great. I love that one. So, that's my pick. >> Uh, Commissioner Dval. >> Thank you, Mayor. Um, where nature meets momentum
over the holidays, had relatives visit from the Northeast, and what they wanted to do was take a walk. and we parked up by the Makaha Hatchee Creek,
wandered into the Walton Preserve. This city has momentum. Okay, it's going to grow, but we do have nature here that people want to see,
they want to be here for. Those same people that made me take that walk were amazed when they walked outside my house in the morning and saw two hawks in a tree next
to my shed. That's something we can't lose. And I think that's where nature meets momentum. There is momentum here. And there's no denying that we have nature here. Thank you.
>> Thank you, Commissioner L or Vice Mayor. >> Uh, thank you, Mayor. I'm really torn. I love the first one as well, but I also gravitate to where nature meets momentum. Um, we're really not built for
what's next. I think that's a little too aspirational for me. Um but boy where nature meets momentum. I mean it it's interesting. Um my first term
very very focused on economic development as I said I would be. Um when I was campaigning it was really all about that. But I have been listening. It might shock some people over the past four and five years. I have been
listening to what people have to say and I think that the focus groups that you ran were really really compelling. Um, and people so value the green space and so value nature.
Um, and and while for me it's the residential development that's pushing nature away. Um, and and not so much the more commercial and and higher density development because we can I was going
to say control. We don't really we manage that um better than we can the residential development, but I love what about neighborly by nature, where nature meets
momentum. >> That's what I was coming up with, but I wanted to change this the first nature to a different word. Neighborly by X, where nature meets momentum. >> Something like that. >> Yeah.
Yeah, we we really have a mandate to try to protect the natural qualities of Northport. Um, we did some important work in the past two and three years for economic
development. So, I'm feeling a little bit more leeway personally to be able to focus not on preservation, but more on protecting and managing um and making sure we we don't lose the hawks and we don't lose the gopher tortoises and and
in fact, I've been a little bit on a rampage as to why we can't keep our gopher tortoises here. you know, when we um work on when we find, you know, their burrows, they get shipped outside of the
city of Northport. We have so much property here. Why can't we keep them here? And I know it has to be at the request of the property owner and all of that, but are we working with our property owners and and our conservation groups? Orange
Hammock. I mean, I know all of these little animals, I'm not an expert in this, they sort of like their own little habitats and maybe we have it and don't have it in certain areas, but I don't know that we're focused on that. Um, and
that really bothers me that all of our kofa tortoises get taken out of the city. What? We ought to keep them here as many as we can. Anyway, so um you're going to see a much more balanced Barbara Langdon in the final years of
her um time here on the deis. I spent a week away. I have regained my zen. Everyone will be happy to know. >> So um yeah. Yeah, we really do need to protect sort of that
feeling when you come into the city. It's not like every place else. I just came from New Orleans and let me tell you, I loved it. We don't want Northport to be a New Orleans. Even though I do think we need more New Orleans, more
drinking and music places. I really do think we need that one, but not a New Orleans. There's a balance. >> That's it. >> Yeah. Another word just popped in my head like neighborly by virtue where nature meets momentum, >> you know, something like that.
>> Yeah, >> that's all I was coming up with. Commissioner Stokes. >> Yeah, I you know I I would just say well certainly where nature meets momentum is very catchy. I mean it's a very catchy statement. >> Um >> but I think it's it's a divisive
statement. I I actually think that the citizens will tisk tisk really really just cuz you say it doesn't make it true. Okay. So, you can talk all about the gopher tortoises and the birds and the trees and all that stuff, but this
city is exploding with growth. So, to try to convince anybody that we're a city where nature meets momentum, seriously, I don't really buy that. I think people are going to say, "What smoke are they
blowing up where?" That's what I think. I mean to me if you know what are we trying to do here? I mean we're we're trying to brand ourselves as a city.
What our goals are what our priorities are shift and change with time and need and and all those things. Be more general neighborly by nature. What a great statement. That's what we are. That does make Northport a very special
place in my mind and embracing opportunity wherever it may be. >> To me, that's like perfect. I It is catchy. Nature meets momentum. Cool. But like I say, some people would say, "Hey, please like take your momentum and take it down the block to some other
community. I don't want momentum in nature. You're trying to tell me that this city is concerned about nature." Now, I can make a good point. We got a natural resource department. we didn't have four years ago. We've got $2.5 million for environmentally sensitive land purchases in this year's budget
that we didn't have before. We have close to a million dollars of tree planting money in there that we didn't have before. We have a natural resource department that's working closely with our building department and other departments in our city to make sure that what we do and how we manage our
growth is done in a responsible manner. But to say where nature meets momentum, that's you're taking me too far. I think the average citizen will will go, "Yeah, right." So, I don't know. I'm I'm I'm so sold on the first one if I had to make a pick. But anyway, that's just my
opinions. Thanks. >> And that's it from the commission. So, >> what you got coming back? >> Uh, well, it looks to me, well, actually, I wanted to caveat something first. When we presented these in the recent focus group um with the
community, they weren't built the way they're built now. Um neighborly by nature period was the tagline. Um unique in nature period was the tagline. Embracing opportunity was one of the taglines. And the feedback that we got in that focus group
was these need to be joined together. You're going down a route that's either community- based or growth based. And so what we did was join them together. Um and the feedback um was predominantly around that that first one um being the
closest to where we wanted to where we wanted to go. Um sounds to me like we have a similar feedback here around the first one but also the nature meets momentum. Um I will take you through what the next steps for the tagline will
be at the end of this session. um because I'm going to hand over now to Kelly to talk you through the logos that we have been developing um and the output or what will happen next with the logos is the same that will happen as the tagline so I don't want to repeat
myself >> so just to give you a little bit of background we'd obviously done all this work and yes mission v vision values all feed into this but ultimately the feedback that we got was around this balance of growth and preservation of
the community of our neighborly nature and the balance that we need to make between the community and the growth that we're going to have. And that's the um that's the input that we have given to the logos. Um Kelly's going to take
you through the full document first so that you can hear the explanation for why we came up with these. We're going to be presenting five to you. There have been close to 20. Each of these have been refined, relooked at. We have worked with a focus group already from
the community. So we've boiled it down to the five. Each of them had almost a family that sort of you could see how the progression went through. We've taken the families out and got to the five um from which we've had feedback on. So we'll take you Kelly will take
you through the five um and the thinking. She's done an amazing job. She is an amazing designer. Um and then at the end of that we will go back to the beginning and what we would like from you is similarly to what we've done with the tagline is what do you like? What do
you not like? What's resonating with you? What's not resonating with you? Where do you have concerns? Where did you look and think oh my goodness that's you know you've nailed it. That's the feedback we want. And then we'll check you through the next steps. So I hand over to Kelly the Castro.
>> Thank you. Good morning. >> Good morning, >> Kelly Diccastro, brand design specialist. Um, let me see this. >> I think I got it. >> Okay, there we go.
Okay. So, um as Katia says, I have five logo options here. Um and then at the end we can discuss that. Um but first we um have some color palettes up on the
screen. Um the first top three are our current brand colors. Um and then we have four proposed um color palettes below. There is one logo that um there's two logos that have one
uh palette color palette just okay. So, the first logo was inspired by Northport's unique natural beauty um and many miles of biking and hiking paths and of course our historic warm
mineral springs. So, here is the first logo option. Um at the top you see it reversed out in white. Um, and then there's the color palette with it and then a black and white version and then a colored
version. The um, circular elements represent unity, harmony, and forward progress. The curved lines represent our parks, waterways, and thriving future and opportunities. while the individual
shapes symbolize our seven strategic pillars. And then the shapes together create one unified cohesive symbol. I'll let you digest that a little bit.
Uh and we also have on the bottom um samples of our um our typography which um is a lot modern in this one. Um Proxima Nova is the one that we would be using for like headlines and such for um marketing
materials, resident facing materials. Um and then we have a complimentary uh Sarah font that goes along with that and that would be more for long um forms and and reports and we have it as an uh design element
um just showing you how it could be used on certain materials. Here are some other examples where we have a mug, a bag, and public works truck.
And here is an example of of open house for fire rescue. Um, it's actually coming up, the event is coming up on January 10th. um if anyone would like to go. But here's an example where um it would be shown on their materials along
with their badge which is not going to change. And here is an example of the police badge along with the proposed logo. Okay, that was the one. This is the second.
>> So, this one was um I was inspired by the city's many um waterways, blueways, and of course, the aquatic center. um a more abstract approach um as you'll
see a N stylized N for Northport strate strategically positioned between north and port to represent the 80 miles of
canals within the city. It represents growth, forward movement and energy. Uh again the typography would be poppins. Poppins is a more friendlier font um more informal
where Merryweather would be another traditional font to be used. Here is here it is stylized as an element. And here again are the three examples again. Fires, fire rescues, open house,
police. The next one is all about our authentic character. Scratch that. Um but as we all know that it is about our city and the people that represent
our city. Um it's you know from our signature events, our programs and our attractions. Um that's what makes us unique. >> This is very endearing. >> Yes. Um
so as we know that we are a community of unity. um neighborly and welcoming community. So here's the third proposed logo option. So as you see it's a more informal, more
friendlier, youthful version. Um the lowercase N and P represent unity and an engaging connection with our with the people of the city. Um while the brush stroke shows movement, the circle
representing welcoming, friendly people. Um and the yellow circle represents an puts an emphasis on the actual residents of the city. Again, Poppins
um more friendly font is used on this one as well. here as another design element. >> Oh, cool. >> Could be used. >> Fire rescue open house January 10th. >> Police.
Okay. So, the next one was or is inspired by Let me see. I'm sorry. Oh, okay. Sorry. Just trying to make sure I had the right one. Um, so this one was inspired by, of
course, our natural beauty, um, which makes us unique. um from our ample green spaces, our wildlife and and the fact that Northport has been named again um in 2025 as uh Tree City USA. Um that's
the 25 uh 25th straight year in a row. Um so as you saw um a oak tree um is used
as an abstract mark um by using um by playing with the negative and positive space with the NMP. Um the oak tree symbolizes strength and resilience. The same strength and resilience we see from our residents and first responders, police, fire rescue,
and of course emergency management. Uh the typography that I used for this one was railway. That's a uh modern more versatile font. And Laura would be um accompanying the
railway on um annual reports and forms such as that. Here it is as a stylized element. Again, the items rescue police.
Okay. So, as for our last option, it was inspired again by our natural beauty where nature is part of our everyday life here in Northport. Um, and of course, it's essential for our well-being
and our thriving future and endless opportunities for our residents, visitors, and businesses. So here we have um an abstract take for a if if you see a sunburst or
um another mark um an abstract tree. The sun rays represents our seven strategic pillars while the mirroring image of the tree symbolizes growth and sustainability. Um both half shapes create the circular
shape but creates a full cir circular shape which represents unity and forward momentum. Here it is as an element. Other materials fire rescue, please. Okay,
that was the fun part. ready for us? >> Yes, please. >> Okay, Commissioner or Vice Mayor Langden. >> Yeah, just um some general comments. I I love all of it. I mean, they were
all really really good. And that Northport with the bubble, you could do so many creative things. I just it doesn't render well when you put it on things it looks too static. Um some of
the logos while all of them did a great job of incorporating the natural environment. The only one where I could stretch seeing opportunity in it was the last one with the sun. Um you know the
sun will come out tomorrow kind of a a feel to it. So for me that last logo communicated it best for me and I think it rendered really well um even on the side of sanitary trucks and on mugs and
it's always a challenge um with a logo comments on colors. I love blue but it's very corporate so we need to be careful. Where I come from blue is everything. Um, I think we need to have a blue.
We're a nine over 900 employees and a big budget. So, there is a corporate element to to what we do. Um, but I like having the green and then e a goldy yellowy orange as sort of a bright
contrast splash of color. Um, and several of those combinations did that really well. So, I'm not going to tell you which one, but those are sort of the things I'd like to see. A blue um one or two greens, one of them re being really
dark for contrast. Need to have that. Either a deep deep deep dark green. Um and then something bright. Um, I'm a font freak and
I like to see something that translates in print and online without having a radical difference. I hate serif fonts. Just know that about me. And I don't like them. I don't like them in print. They don't belong online.
I really liked Proxima Nova, a railway. Both of those really spoke to me and um I don't know if we want to convert our website at this point. I don't know if you have some sort of global design scripts that you can easily do that. But
those two fonts um really worked for me. And again, I'm I'm not a SIF gal, but of all of them, Laura I thought was the most readable. and um it's just so Victorian, you know,
>> um and that kind of thing. But I get it. Part of me says, and this goes to the logos, too. Um all of them were very vertical, a little bit of horizontal kind of I don't like it overdone because
then visually it's hard to work. So whether it's font or the logo, a little bit of leaning forward might work. I don't know. Um but those I loved all of them. I mean I really I couldn't pick I
couldn't pick but for me that last logo kind of incorporated the opportunity and the nature the best >> um of all of them. But that's a great piece of work. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. In the visuals I didn't see any business though.
It was all community and you know business is community. So uh that would be just in terms of the pictures we used there was a real lack of that industrial that sort of industry not industry in
terms of smoke stack but just that forward movement embracing opportunity kind of feel to it. >> That's it. >> Thank you. since the vice mayor advocated for her colors. I'll be shocked if I didn't ask for purple. So,
so I'm just putting that out there. But I did like the last logo. That was the one that caught my eye the best out of all of them. I got adjectives on every single one of them that I'm not going to mention here, but the last one was a good one. Commissioner,
>> thank you, Mayor. I guess since we're doing preferences, as far as the font, I did like the Laura um with the color just green. I was born in the green
mountain state. Apparently it made an impression. Um and that's you know I have to look at that and say um for me that's just a personal preference. the logo itself.
The very first one, the basic shape of a tree. Number one, we do have a tree history here. Our trees are are part of the preservation. You know, we do have our envir environmental department uh
division, excuse me. uh one big trunk and it's going in a lot of different directions. Feeding the environmental, feeding the business,
feeding the young, our waterways, feeding it just brought all that into my mind. And uh those are my impressions. Thank you, >> Mr. Stokes.
>> Yeah, I agree. I I was I also liked the first one right on through. Then I started warming up a little to the NP a little bit. But when I saw the last one, it sort of incorporated what the first one does, but it's edgier
and it's more current and it's more vibrant, young, alive. I kind of it tied to our population, our our youth here in the city. I think it's catchy and and it points to some of the same perceptions
that Commissioner Duval had about, you know, branching off the waterways and the trees and the different directions. And I like that the colors, um, I like them all, but I like the greens and the yellows and that. I think that plays better than the blues a little bit. Um,
the font, she did a good job with them. You know, I'm not a font freak, so you know, if I can read if I can read it, I'm good. But um yeah, this this was nicely done. That would they'd be they're all good, but >> it'd be a real nice fresh look.
>> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Anything else from the commission? >> I would just say I liked them all and that never happens. Never happens. So really well well done. Great work.
>> Thank you. Yeah, a lot of time and effort has been put into this and it is very well appreciated by this board up here. So, thank you so very much for all the work that you've done on this. Now, what would you like from us? Okay. So the next steps um will be for
us to sorry Kelly uh to take a look at the vision um mission and values um do some reshaping which we can represent. Um the feedback that you gave on the logos is not dissimilar to from the feedback
that we received from the community in our in our focus groups. um the first and the last being the two that resonated the most with people, the greens and the yellows being the colors that resonated the most. So our plan
next on logos and taglines will be to take those two logos and develop them further. So um if you as you said very horizontal right now, what would it look like if the text was next to it? what
will it look like in slightly different pallets? Um, is there any refinement that's needed? Um, what we will do, we will do that over the the coming week probably. We're then going to take that back out to the community um in a survey. We're also going to have
some places around the city where people can go and vote manually if they don't have access. We'll go out on email as well, social media, get people to leave their comments and we'll comp compile all of that. Once we have that, we will bring that back into the commission for
a formal vote on logo one, logo two, tagline one, tagline two. Um, which will give us our our logo and tagline moving forward. >> Whilst we're doing that, we can still play with mission vision. I think we are all in agreement that that balance
between how we serve the community, how we serve business, the growth and the preservation together is where we're going. That's what the logos do. I think playing with the words we can continue to do in the background. Um, so you'll be seeing us again probably in about a
month for a formal vote. >> Okay. And when when you come back, can you bring back some of the input from the community on if they liked A over B and if they like this wording over this wording? This way we have a better
understanding of what the community is actually saying because we are getting down to the final >> Yeah. >> areas. >> Absolutely. the the start of that presentation will be giving you that data. >> That'd be that'd be awesome. >> Beautiful. Awesome. >> Anything else from us? Do you need? >> No. Thank you very much.
>> Look forward to that. Thank you very much. Great job everybody. We appreciate it. >> All right. We're going to take a 15minute break. >> Excellent. >> And then we'll come back and we'll discuss the existed in 1998. So that process led to
a cheaper option which was the tear down and rebuild. >> Sure. So is there a general timeline for how long this project is going to take? >> Yeah. So the tearown should start in December. So by the end of the year it should be all flat ground and then we're
being told anywhere between 12 and 14 months before the new station is complete and ready for our crews to move back in. >> Gotcha. Okay. So with a project like this, what does the cost look like and where are those funds coming from? >> So the majority of the funding is through SIR tax. Uh the total project is
around 17.5 million. >> So since a brand new building is being built, what kind of improvements can be made by taking that route? So, one of the biggest is we are a critical infrastructure building. So, our crews are expected to respond as soon as the storm clears. The new building will be
rated up to a category 5 hurricane. And that meets the code for our wind load this far inland because we we get a little bit less intense winds as we get away from the coast. >> Sure, that makes sense. So, we're coming up here on some beautiful trees.
>> So, tell me about the plan for these. Are some of them sticking around? What is your plan? >> Yeah, absolutely. So, one of the things we did very early in the project is we recognized that to the best that we could, we wanted to save as many trees as we could, but especially the mature oaks. >> Sure. >> They provide a lot of shade and they're
beautiful and, you know, native to Florida. So, we worked with the contractor to design the parking lot in a way that we could really maximize the ability to keep these trees. So, a large amount of these uh more mature oaks that you see that were standing under the nice shade canopy, we were able to keep
a lot of these trees. Some of the smaller oak trees and some of the older palm trees uh we won't be able to keep, but we worked with the city arborist to ensure that, you know, we we did the best we could with how that design can be and found out that honestly some of the palm trees are at their end of life as is.
>> Got it. Okay. Well, that's great. I know a lot of the residents are going to really appreciate that as well. So to cap it off, service is saying the same, everyone's getting the same level going forward. >> Yeah, Madison, you're right. So the crews that normally operate out of this fire station are just going to be a
little ways down the road in the temp station with a temporary apparatus bay. And all of our administrative staff from fire rescue are moving into city hall, which is right down the street. And if you need anything from fire rescue, you can go in the front doors of city hall, turn to your left where economic development just moved into, and you'll
see a friendly face from Fire Rescue ready to help you out. >> That's great. Continuing to provide that exceptional customer service. So, I really appreciate all the information, Chief. Thanks for joining us today. >> Thanks for having me. The city wakes before you do. Quiet work already in motion.
Work continues even after you've gone. The way forward kept Ready. Every step, every turn, prepared long before you arrive. When your day ends, others begin theirs. Every hour, every act quietly connected.
Most of us don't think about how our city works. We drive on maintained roads. We call when there's an emergency. We assume someone's keeping it all running. And they are Northport University gives residents a chance to step behind the scenes to meet the people doing the work to see how
decisions are made and to understand how we as a community can be part of it. It's not just about learning the facts. It's about learning where you fit in and how you could shape the city we call home. Uh the most surprising thing would probably be the opportunity to get taste
which is really cool. Understanding how that feels. Would recommend for everyone unless they have a heart condition. I think another thing would probably be how many people it takes to run everything >> is how well all the departments work together and how well each of the
departments know about other departments. So in the case of a big emergency, they already know what other departments are already supposed to do and they all work together. >> This is always a dance. There's always moving parts. There's always things that
are that can impact a decision whether it's state, local, federal, revenue, all these things come into play and it and it's just amazing all these things that of how how the city is impacted for the variety of things that can occur.
>> I feel more confident in the city in the way it operates. I don't see wasteful spending. I see a lot of uh proactive thinking way outside the box of what I thought a city does. >> Well, I was already in love with Northport. Um I think everyone knows
that I got to meet the people who work here, their love for the community, how hard it is to run a whole city, um the intricacies of it, and the why. It answers so many questions about the why
things are done the way they're done. So it does it empowers you to love where you live more and to get more involved. >> And I think the important message here is the confidence that I've really feel now of the people running each each of
these departments. You know, they are running multi-million dollar businesses all separately but coming together with tax dollars that that come through. And that is by far not an easy task. departments that we've been to seem to have improved with the growth in the
city. So the mere fact that we've grown such a major amount, department has have grown, the staff has grown, the offerings have grown, and the um need for involvement from the residents has also grown. >> I think parks and wreck really showed up
and did an amazing job. They had a bunch of staff people. They kind of brought us around, had different speakers. I think they take the prize for the best uh overall display. >> Places that I didn't think I would enjoy as much. Like I didn't think I'd enjoy public works as much as I did. I loved
it. And it seemed to me that there were the more questions that were asked. >> The economic development council. I think that is just a again it all points to uh live, work, and play within our community. >> I think there's a lot of misunderstanding out there about really
how these departments work, how the city really works. And I think by offering a class like this, you get such an exposure to so many different departments and meet so many different people. You can't help but want to be a part of it. >> If you plan on living here and living
amongst the community and understanding the growth and understanding what we need, definitely join the Northport University. You're going to be pleasantly surprised. >> I would absolutely say do it because you don't know until you know. And you can go online and you can read all these
things, but a lot of it is the experience and sitting across from from whether it's the the chief of police, the the chief of fire, rescue, utilities, all these, you know, administration, all these departments are absolutely you want you meet the
leaders. You can look into their eye and ask pertinent questions that are important to you. to understand of where they're at, where they're going, what are their constraints, and how we can be as residents, try and give them the resources they need to provide the services that we're asking them to
provide. >> I'm more in love with Northport than they've ever been. >> Hey, Brandon, what are you listening to? >> Just listen to my CPR playlist. What's on that? >> Staying alive. >> I'm Zach. And this is Travis from
Northport Fire Rescue. And I'm Brandon. And this is Brett from the Northport Aquatic Center. >> Did you know a lot of the songs that you listen to on a daily basis follow the beats of CPR, 100 to 120 beats per minute.
>> CPR saves lives. >> Hey, Northport. I'm here with Ryan from our engineering division in public works and we're in an area that is experiencing some drainage concerns that were brought to us by some residents. So Ryan, what are some things you do when you get onto a scene like this to see
what the issue may be? >> First thing we do is we start at the bottom of the system, the outfall, how it connects into the uh canal. Then we start working our way up. We go through the cross drains, the culverts, the under drains, and we look at every way the water flows downward. And we look for blockages, uh, sumped uh, dirt pile
up and even sometimes could potentially collapsed uh, coverts underneath. And you got to remember, you can't report your uh, water being an issue until we have 72 hours of no rainfall. And let's say it rains on Tuesday and a couple days go by and that second day it rains
again, you got to restart your 72 hours. We have to spend time of our water inside the system in order to clean it and in order to slow it down. Otherwise, we're going to end up washing out our neighbors below us. >> Absolutely. So, tell us about what's happening here. >> Right here, we have a rather large uh
blockage inside the system. This is clearly a um illegal dump of some sort, uh a tree obviously, and this will slow down the water. If we could see on the north side of it, or north as in the upper part of the drainage way, it's full of water. But when we look at our
footage from down below, it's dry. So this is a huge point of collab collecting water. These systems really fail sometimes with like a a death by a thousand cuts. You get a um a sump here, a collapsed uh covert pipe, a blockage like this, and it slowly adds up.
>> That makes sense. So if anybody out there is seeing issues like this or experiencing it in your neighborhood, you're welcome to report it um through our Northreport system, which is at northportfl.govnorthreport /northreports or you can give the public works
customer service a call. In Northport, families are finding more and more places built just for them. We opened um this past June. We are an indoor play center for children ages 0 to 7. We do open play sessions, birthday
parties, special events, and classes here at the play center. for me. Um, you know, being a Northport resident, there was really not a whole lot in Northport for children, um, besides the local parks. So, it was super important for me to have something in the community to be
able to offer to families with young children. You want to have that option to be able to still get out of the house with the kids, get their energy out, and not have to hike all the way up somewhere with traffic. and you can just go to a spot near you and just make
those special memories that are close to home. >> Playtime Paradise isn't the only new spot making Playtime local. >> Do the Beach is a immersive indoor adventure park. We are primarily an inflatable based attraction. We have over 40.
All right, we're back. We're back and we're all present. >> Well, most of us except for city manager. >> Is he missing? >> He is missing. >> He is missing. >> All right, we're moving on to item B2-3064.
discussion and possible direction regarding an assessment options for funding the solid waste transfer station completed by Stantech Consulting Services. Uh city manager, this was your item, but I'm going to turn it over to Mr. Speaks. Go right ahead, sir. Thank
you, Mayor Chuck Speak, public works director. Uh this is to get some direction from commission on assessment options for the funding and solid waste transfer station. We have a presentation prepared by Stantech and Peter Napole is here to present that. We can go over questions
after we get through the presentation and go over our options of funding once you see what those uh options actually include. >> Fantastic. Thank you. >> Thank you, sir. >> Good morning, mayor, vice mayor, commissioners. Thank you for having me here today. Uh we have a um a
presentation that summarizes the options uh for commission's uh consideration for the funding of the transfer station. Uh we have a lot of scenarios involved. U I'll take my time with explaining everything, but I'm happy to stop and explain things further as the commission
has questions or go back at the end to any of the other scenarios. Uh but without further ado, I'll get started. So, just a little bit of background, and I'm sure you've heard a lot about this transfer station already from your public works department, but um the background for this specific study is
for funding the transfer station through the special assessment protocol. So currently the solid waste district is funded through a special assessment that occurs annually on on all the taxpayers property tax bills that primarily pays for the operations and minor capital
outlay that are involved with providing solid waste service to all the city's residents. Um this option or scenario is use utilizing that existing infrastructure that solid waste uh district assessment district for the
funding of the transfer station through a one-time increase one or two time increase to the solid waste rates um and also including others in that solid waste uh district assessment program to pay for the funding of the transfer
station. So the transfer station is set to uh be uh built or currently planned to be built in 2027 for an estimated cost of 15 million. The 12 or 11.9 million would be funded by the solid waste district and that's what's uh the
basis for the funding in this study. Uh, and then real quick, the current solid waste assessment rate is at 33275 and that's an annual rate and that primarily funds operations as I said. So, anytime you use a special assessment
to fund either a service, a reoccurring service like solid waste or a capital improvement, an infrastructure addition, it has to pass what we call the two-prong requirement. Um, so I want I'm going over this two-prong requirement
specifically for the solid waste transfer station. The first prong of that requirement uh is that there is a special benefit that properties are receiving by this investment the city is making. So the special benefit here is for developed properties, the transfer
station allows the city to continue to provide the essential solidway service to existing residents and business businesses. But for undeveloped properties, the vacant properties throughout the city, this transfer station is sized with a significant
additional capacity to provide for future residents as they come in and continue to deliver the same level of service of solid waste uh service to those future residents that have not been built yet on those vacant parcels.
Nope. The second prong of that two-prong test requirement is that you the special assessment is collected proportional to benefit. So meaning um you know you don't just kind of charge everyone the same and say everyone should pay the
same regardless of the profile of your property. You might have a 100 acre property, you might have a quarter acre property, but everyone just pays the same flat rate. The law says that you have to size these assessments proportional to the benefit that's received. So, we did uh we applied that
rule to designing these assessments for funding the transfer station and developed properties. The it it's pretty easy. It's proportional to the existing units of service. You know, how how much trash are you generating at your property or your business? um and how
many units of service do you have for but for the undeveloped properties? It's an assumption of what are the potential units of service on this undeveloped lot or vacant lot. So that those are um the themes that you'll see throughout the uh assessment presentation.
So starting with uh the capacity of the transfer station that's proposed. Uh so we've we're estimating with the the solid waste department we're estimating about 118 thous or 118,000 tons of capacity at this transfer station.
That's how it's sized. Currently the existing customer base utilizes about 61,000 tons. So that would be that light blue portion of the capacity there. 52% of that transfer station capacity would
go towards serving existing residents. the remaining portion 48% of the size of that transfer station is reserved for future capacity and reserved for growth. So taking the cost of the overall cost of the transfer station uh which is at
13.7 million that's gross ups for assessments. Um there's a few common gross ups with the uh or the additional costs essentially with the early payment discount of 4%. Um you don't want to undercolct taxes. So we grossed up the
transfer station cost and then used that capacity allocation to allocate it between existing customers and future customers and what they should pay for the transfer station. 52% of the capacity is associated with the existing city customer base. So 52% of the cost
is allocated to the existing customer base. 48% is additional is excess capacity for growth. So 48% of the cost is allocated to the future customers. Um and that's how the assessments are calculated.
So one more allocation to cover that's the first allocation is between existing customers, future customers. The second allocation is between residential and commercial because those are the two main you know uh customer class profiles within the city. Whether you're a
resident or whether you're a business, you receive different benefit from the availility availability of solid waste service and you also have a different level of contribution to the solid waste capacity. Uh currently the city's profile is 82% of the capacity or
maximum disposal capacity is associated with residential highlighted in that green there and in the orange is 18% is associated with commercial. So that's how we're going to split up the cost on both sides, the existing base and the
future base. 82% of the cost comes from residential uh properties and taxpayers. 18% would come from commercial rates. Um and that that uh that follows that proportional requirement that special
assessments are required to have. So the first part of the calculation here for the the rates is going to deal with the existing customer. So existing taxpayers, existing residential taxpayers in the city and what they would pay for this transfer station
funding. So taking the existing portion of the transfer station cost in the blue there, the 7.1 million, that's the 52% or of the overall cost. Then taking the residential component of that, 82% of
the capacity gets a $5.8 8 million number that needs to be recovered by the existing residents that h uh receive solid waste service throughout the city divided by 2027 residential units because that's the earliest you could uh
adopt this transfer station increase to the solid waste assessment gets a residential assessment a one-time increase of $128 per household. That's an annual number and that's per dwelling unit.
That would all be in one year where later on in the presentation we'll go over some scenarios where the commission requested what if it was split over two years rather than all at once. Now the other side of the equation, the future customers. So that's that 48% of
the capacity of the transfer station, funding that side of it and allocating it to the the uh the the the property owners that will contribute future customers to solid waste service. The same allocation residential assuming
that the capacity uh share between residential and commercial stays the same. vacant or future residential properties in the city would need to generate $5.3 million through this one-time assessment. Uh this would be
the only assessment that they receive in terms of solid waste because currently vacant properties don't pay solid waste assessments. They don't receive solid waste service. Um so this portion to fund the one time to fund the transfer station would be a one-time assessment
on their on their tax bills. We have two main options here for the commission to consider. This first option highlighted in the orangeish color is to divide that cost on acreage. So the larger parcel you have, the more
share of the transfer station cost that you would um receive and and pay for. So there's 12,000 approximately 12,000 vacant residential acreage throughout the city. Taking that 5.3 million divided by that would get you a
residential assessment of $11163 uh per quarter acre lot. So that's per quarter acre for per acre would be times four about 400 or so. I'll show you some samples of how, you know, for different property sizes, how that scales, but
essentially it's saying the more land that you own, the more you'll contribute towards the solid waste transfer station costs because the more potential there is that you will contribute towards that solid waste capacity.
The second option highlighted in the purple is uh the density option. So that's actually looking at based on the zoning and the density um um minimum or maximum density allocations for each of
these properties what uh how many maximum residential units could be developed on that property. Um, so that uh results in a 50,000 density units and I'll show you some samples uh for for
different properties and would be a vacant residential assessment of $106 per density unit, meaning per uh per home that could be developed on a property. So this next uh slide here kind of dives
into this vacant part of things because this is really the more complex part of the assessment calculation. U option one for acreage. Uh this is a R1 meaning that's the zoning uh classification.
It's a quarter acre lot. Um, if you based the assessment on acreage, they'd pay the $111 time on their tax bill for this transfer station funding. The next one scales up. It's a halfacre lot, so they would pay uh per quarter
acre, they'd pay two times the assessment. So, they would see a $223 assessment for transfer station funding on their tax bill. That's a R1. R2 for acreage doesn't make
any change. So the zoning for the acreage scenario doesn't change the calculation. You would still pay that same 22326. And then finally the the last example here is this is zoned agg. This is a
three acre lot and they would pay per quarter acre 12 times the assessment amount and they would pay about $1,200 towards the transfer station funding. So, flipping over to the density side
for that first scenario in the purple you'll see that the R1 quarter acre pays $106. For the second scenario, the R1 quarter acre would pay 213. So they can develop two maximum units on that quarter acre
because R1 is one acre, one unit per quarter acre. R2 is a higher density. So the R2 if it was a quarter or is a halfacre lot, they can develop one unit per 0.1 acres. So
they can develop the maximum on that lot is five units, five residential units. So they'd pay five times the assessment amount. Five units generating solid waste in the future. And then finally the a lot because it's classified a they
can only develop one residential unit for that whole 3 acre lot. So the maximum that they'll contribute is based on that density that they could uh they could develop at and they'd only pay one times the assessment. So they would pay
$106 the same as that first scenario with the quarter acre lot at R1. This just gives you an idea of the potential vacant build distribution and how these properties um overall, you know, to what magnitude the city will
see these impacts. Uh this first chart here is the acreagebased scenario. um under $100 impact. About 7% of the vacant parcels or or vacant bills, vacant properties throughout the city
would see under $100 um one time on their tax bill. 84% would be somewhere between 100 and 150. So another way to say that is cumulatively 73 or 93% of the parcels
would be $150 or less one time on their tax bill for the funding of the transfer station. And then 8% between 150 and 500 1% 500 and up. And those would be those larger acreage parcels that are going to
pay more. The purple table here shows the density uh based assessment and it's very similar, but you at least pay one density unit. So there's no one that's under $100. You'll remember the
assessment is $106 per density unit. So everyone is at at least one unit can be developed on their vacant parcel. Uh but 91% of the bills are under $150 for the those vacant property owners.
So the the last remaining allocation here that you're probably wondering about is the commercial allocation that 18% of the disposal capacity that they currently have. Uh so that 18% of the transfer station has to be funded through commercial or commercial rates.
However, it's very difficult to um generate a one-time assessment for that. Commercial services change yeartoyear so often based on the business. They may request more service, less service. There's a vast variation
in their service. They could have a small garbage can or they could have a dumpster. And the frequency of pickups, there's a lot of factors in that. So, what we're saying is that $2.4 4 million of the transfer station cost that's associated with commercial would be
funded from the commercial solid waste rates that are collected monthly on um directly from those customers because the commercial isn't uh currently funded by the solid waste assessment. They're funded by actual customer utility rates
u based on their level of service. So we would be making sure that the residential customers don't fund that portion of the transfer station. You have to exclude that. You can't ask the residential customers to pay for anything commercial related. That's why we apply that allocation $2.4 million.
It will be collected incrementally from the commercial rates, increases to the commercial rates over the um the next several years. So these tables here show uh the the rate scenarios that we're the assessment rates that we're talking about um on a
one-year and a two-year. So there was only one scenario with residential existing. Um that's very straightforward based on the existing residential customers. They'd pay $128 one time or $64 over two years.
future customers by acreage, they would pay $111 per quarter acre or $55 um and 82 cents over two years. And then finally, uh the density based
would pay $106 per unit of density or $53 over two years. Okay. And then these next few slides here are going to shift towards the financial forecast. So looking at the solid waste district's current financial
uh health and and plan over the next 5 years. So their reserves that they have in the district, their the revenue that they generate, the operational expenses, all that is incorporated into the fi five-year forecast. Um, and we've
layered in these different transfer station scenarios so you could see the impact financially on the solid waste district of each option. This first option here, and I'll walk you through, there's a lot, it's a complex picture from our financial
model. There's a lot going on, but this is what we're calling our baseline scenario in parentheses not feasible. It's essentially trying to fund this transfer station only through existing rates and existing
customers um so developed customers and funding it through the maximum amount of rate increases that the solid waste assessment can have without notice without further notice which is 10%. Uh, and it just shows that that if you were to cash fund this transfer station all
in one year, that 12 million or so, if you look at the bottom right graph, you'll see that big green bar there, that's all that money being spent in 2027. The top left graph, which shows the balances just plummet. They you don't
have sufficient cash reserves on hand to outlay towards this uh transfer station in one year. So in a scenario like that, um you know, it's not it's just not feasible for the solid waste district to go into the negative. Um it it wouldn't
be possible even if you maximized your your current uh rates. The second scenario here shows that one time and you'll see it in the the purple bar in the middle there that shows that one-time assessment popping up in 2027
to fund this transfer station $128 per residential customer. Uh and then you know the the left hand graph the top leftand graph shows the reserve stabilized sufficient funds over the five-year forecast to fund the transfer
station. There are still rate increases that are programmed for the operational solid waste rate that comes from existing customers in the future. Um, however, there's no uh there's no assumptions made for the savings from implementing or constructing the
transfer station. I understand there's some significant operational savings that are expected from the transfer station. So, this is um really conservative in that it doesn't program any of that in. It just considers the same replacement of trucks, the same uh
fleet size, the uh the same operational increases year-over-year. And then some other things to point out is that in that those bottom graphs show your capital plan. There's some other capital projects that are pretty significant in this five-year plan. Uh
the public works facility phase two. Um and then there's a West Villages project at the last year of the five-year forecast. those are also being funded by those annual increases that um and those are a big driver of that. So if that any either of those projects if there was
other funding sources or a different timeline it could help lower the annual rate increases needed after the one-time transfer station increase. Um and then finally this last scenario here
is the 2-year scenario. So splitting it up over two years rather than having the increase all at once to fund the transfer station. And the key difference here is that you'd have to postpone the transfer station to 2028 in order to collect all those funds over the 2-year
period to fund it. Um you would have to postpone the transfer station another year once you build up the reserves to allocate towards the transfer station construction. Uh but it would be $64 increase. $64 increase and then you
would go back down to your current operational rate that only is charged to existing customers. So with that is that's the conclusion of the presentation. I'd be happy to explain anything in further detail or go
back to any of those scenarios at the the the commission's will. >> All right. I I did have a a question. You just now answered it. If we broke it down into two different scenarios, two different payments that it would prolong the transfer station being built. Did
you come up with any of the numbers on how much it's going to cost our savings benefit on not having it done earlier rather than later because of the re reconditioning of trucks, personnel, driving back up and forth? Did you put that into your scenario? Uh we we don't
we didn't calculate any savings like that, but the the biggest driver of that is another year postponing construction is going to add probably 15% on construction costs right off the top. >> Well, I understand that, but I'm just saying once this is built, we have we have,
>> you know, great savings going forward. I just wanted to see if there was any type of number if we waited a year, how much would we lose on those savings? >> Right. So, our initial uh presentations that we had previously with the savings
annually for operating and equipment and uh personnel, I believe we had to transfer station paid off in five or six years. So, you're looking >> 2 million or or a little more than that a year uh in expected savings. A lot of that is equipment, right? Every new rout
two personnel. So, by waiting it would cost us about $2 million >> plus the co increased cost of construction. >> Correct. >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. Uh, Commissioner or Vice Mayor Langden, go ahead. >> You got to get with it, mayor. >> I'll get it sooner or later.
>> Um, how would apartment buildings be handled? So, say a 200 unit >> apartment building. So they currently pay based on how many units are in the building, they pay the
solid waste assessment times that many units and >> so the same so for the single home quarter acre lot each apartment unit would pay that. >> Correct. >> Okay. Okay. Um timeline. I I'm working
the two-year thing in my head. Usually design takes us months and then construction takes a while.
If we um approve and implement a 2year assessment window, I don't understand why we couldn't it. I mean, it's guaranteed. I don't see it as being much different than if we went out
to bond in terms of the money flow being guaranteed. Couldn't the money collected in year one go toward design and then whatever is left and collected in year two would go toward construction. >> So we we we have money in design. We're
in design right now. >> Okay. >> So our intention is to have this designed 27 hits we're ready to build. >> Okay. Got it. And if you have that two-year, even though this commission approves that first year, we have to bring that back the following year.
I can't speak for finance, but I'm pretty sure they're going to wait until you approve that second year before we send out uh something to bid, >> right? Um, I I I warm up much more to the density model versus because I think
that's a more accurate reflection of the value level that different people get. Um, same question though for high density for our R3 zoned vacant land.
How do we handle that? So based on the maximum units allowable units per acre, it's applied. So I I didn't have an R3 scenario, right, >> on that slide, I believe there was some
R3 vacant land in the city. It wasn't a huge amount of acreage. >> Um, and off the top of my head, I can't tell you what the maximum density is, but it's another level higher than R2, >> right? How would our affordable
housing developments be handled? >> The same way >> they they would be that vacant. If they're vacant now, that's acreage that's set aside for that. It's going to be handled in the same way as the other vacant. >> Okay. >> Parcel. >> And so for those that are already built
out, the fact that they're affordable, each unit would pay >> I don't know that that would have an impact. Okay. >> On on this type of assessment. >> Okay. Let me see. Okay, that's it for
now for me. >> Thank you, >> Commissioner Stokes. >> Yeah. Um, so let me see if I understand. Um, we'd be looking at breaking ground in 27. >> Correct.
>> And it would take 18 months. >> Correct. So, we're looking at middle of 28 into 29 before it's operational. When would the first assessment go in? Would it be on the 20 like next November's tax bill?
>> So, if you if you did a one-time assessment, it would be on that next year's tax bill for 27. >> I got >> And at that time, we could move forward. If it's a two-year, we have to wait till 28. >> All right. And we haven't I mean there's
no way we can realistically say that once this facility is operational that we're going to be able to lower everybody's rates on solid waste. >> So So there's going to be operational
efficiencies immediately when we use that transfer station. What those will be, I can't guess at. >> And basically they'll just be an offset to increasing costs. >> Correct. So there's not going to be any net money back to the citizens. They're not going to when this is all said and
done, they're not going to be paying less. They're still going to be paying more, but they'll probably be paying less more >> in the long. Correct. >> Right. Yeah. How's that for Phil speak? Um, okay. Just so I understand that. Um,
>> and the 7 and a half% is the >> that's running the operations as we've run them today. That's not counting any of the efficiencies. It's also including both the the well and park and the the public works phase 2 which uh if there was you know if we find another way to
finance things within the city some of that cost could be spread out. >> Yeah. See cuz the only I mean certainly if if it were commission's decision to fund this ASAP then to me you know the one time assessment I mean you can look
at it and say oh it's not the end of the world blah blah blah this and that. The thing that bothers me about this approach to financing or funding this transfer station is we've got all kinds of
residential and commercial future residents of this city that aren't going to bear one dime of the cost of building this. It's going to fall 100% on the backs of today's taxpayers
both residentially and commercially. That's who's paying for this just like everything else we've been doing. And yet the benefit of this solid waste transfer station is going to enure to 5 10 15 20 25 years out and none of those
new newbies are going to pay their fair share of the building of this. That's why I'm still a big advocate and doing a cops biting the bullet. Go out and do this the right damn way, the way everybody else does it, and go finance this thing. Spread it out and let all
those who will benefit pay for it. and it doesn't put the monkey on the backs of existing citizens and and and uh you know so that that's where I'm hung up on this approach but other than that I I understand the numbers and >> so what's your
>> if I could if I could clarify commissioner this this approach will hit those vacant residential parcels right >> yeah so this will be the first time that they've seen an assessment from solid waste >> and that's to pay pay for when they come online in the future we're reserving that space at the transfer station for
uh your commercial your commercial shifts um we're going to be collecting it from them over the next several years through through fee increases. It won't be through an assessment. You won't see it here. You'll see it in the increases in fees as they come across. So, this is the first time we've been able to to kind of stretch that out. So, it's not
just on the shoulders of the of the current rateayers. Um and it's it's about the most equitable way we can do it, >> right? because you had a slide that stated that it was going to be 52% of the current residents and 48% of future. >> Correct. And that's
>> so they're all getting assessed the vacant properties are getting assessed. >> Correct. And that's that's just based on that capacity of overall capacity of the transfer station minus the commercial. >> Yeah. The only thing is an am 30-year amortization or 25-year amortization on
the 1517 million investment is going to net out to a whole heck of a lot less on a per customer basis since it's spread out. So there's no I mean it's way way cheaper. I mean it's easy for us to say oh 50 60 bucks it's a you know if we do it over two years orund and something
it's hey after all it's just one shot. What's the big deal? Everybody can afford that. Well I don't know. Can everybody afford that? Maybe we can afford it. I don't know. We got a raise. Maybe the citizens can't. I don't know. >> No, you got people on fixed income. Absolutely. Take into consideration.
>> And for something that while it makes eminent sense, there's no doubt there's been really no project I've seen come across our das that is is financially sound and makes as much sense as this one does. This really does. At the same time, we're asking everybody who lives
here now to pay for it. I don't think that's the right way to go. I think it's time we do this the right way. Finance our capital improvement projects the way they're supposed to be. And that's go do the cops. Bite the bullet. Anybody wants to challenge it, let them challenge it. Let's get this done because there's more
projects than just this that needs doing. And if we take this pay as you go, this just a spin off of pay as you go and citizens keep getting dinged and dinged and dinged. It's not solving our overall capital improvement problem. And to me, the answer is to go out and do a
cops program for one or a couple of projects and spread them out over 30 years. That's the most cost-effective way, the most f financially sound way. And as far as I'm concerned, this is stewards of the taxpayers's dollars. That's the way to do it. Not this way.
But I understand everything you've presented. And maybe this is the only way to do it. I don't know. So, thank you. That's all I got. Commissioner Dval. Thank you, mayor. Um, in my case,
I own my home here in Northport and I have a spare lot. I have a 30-foot shed on my spare lot. I pay one service fee for solid waste.
We adopt this plan. Now, am I going to be paying my share as a homeowner, you know, an extra I came out with a number of about $135 onetime fee at a 100 for an undeveloped
lot. Uh that would give us 13,669,381 if we added in the commercial 2,475,631. Um, would I be paying for that extra lot? >> You would pay that extra assessment for the extra lot.
>> Okay, that would be okay. So, in other words, >> if someone owns a hundred empty lots, they're going to pay a hundred, you know. Okay. Um now I have one other
question idea suggestion. We have talked about on this day sometime initiating a fee on undeveloped lots
and part of that fee would be used for the city to cut down unend or cut down dangerous trees. Uh does everybody remember we've had
that discussion? >> Yep. >> Um if I use your number of 50,87 empty lots in the city that comes up to 5 million
over $5 million. Um $5,8,700. I would suggest that we kind of combine things and we initiate that fee. Okay. I
don't think if if the city can get $5 million out of charging say a $100 for an empty lot for those 50,000 lots.
I don't think in a year's time we're going to spend more than a million dollars cutting down dangerous trees. So, in other words, we could initiate both projects at once and dedicate that first
year's money from the empty lot fee towards the transfer station. And then after that it can go into, you know, general fund also taking care. It's like I've described it before. It's kind of like an insurance
policy for lot owners. Uh if they have to have a tree tree cut down once, it's going to cost them $2,000, but for $100 a year, you know, for 20 years, they've got that insurance policy. So I would kind of suggest
combining the two and the one thing that you know is is a question to me is >> yeah I was going to say I don't think that's possible >> with the commercial you know would the future commercial commercial businesses
would they be paying their fair share as we're asking future residents to when they uh you I have this empty lot. Um, but other than that, I like it and say let's get it done.
>> Very difficult because >> commissioner, if I may, I have a response to that. Just just um procedurally with the special assessment. you're these uh scenarios that we're presenting here are utilizing the existing special assessment program
for solid waste based on the benefit that properties receive from solid waste service. So do you wouldn't be able to utilize those funds for any other purposes outside of this transfer station, but the commission could go through the process of considering a
separate special assessment district for funding those purposes that you just explained. the maintenance of empty lots and and maintenance of of dangerous trees, etc. But you wouldn't be able to fund those activities through the solid
waste assessment district. So, um, >> well, but yeah, >> what I was trying to get at is, okay, we can have the special assessment for solid waste on existing homes and businesses, but we could also have a separate assessment that we've talked
about on undeveloped lots that most of the time in the future will be used to take care of uh invasive species, weeds, dangerous trees, But for one year it'll be used to fund
the solid waste transfer station. >> So just for that but I don't think >> two separate things >> because of the fact is it's going into a different departmental area you know because that would be falling under code enforcement or whatever building
department to take care of those trees. It's separate from sanitation. They're separate buckets. I don't think you can combine them. That's just >> the only legal way you could do that if it was possible would to be create an entirely new special district with an
entirely new methodology. And then once you do that, you can't mix those pots of money, >> right? >> It just they don't cross over. And then then the time in creating another special district is is another factor. And again, you have to show that it
benefits those lots proportionally, right? So, it's there's there's a lot that goes in to the special districts and where every one of those dollars the request comes from and where they end up. They have to track that dollar all the way through.
And I understand your your your vision. I just I think uh the reason we did it this way, there's already a special assessment district for solid waste because we looked at maybe doing a fee or doing some other things for this because we already have a district set up. This is just part of a one-time assessment that's already built into the
assessment they have. Uh legally, this flows and we can use the money where we need it. >> Okay. Thank you. I was just trying to maybe save the citizens >> 100 bucks one time, but but I as I say, I like I like the idea of this. I came
up with a number of around 135 per home. Uh $100 per quarter acre lot. Um, you know, it's anytime you're going to tax the citizens, you know, that hurts, but the benefit down the road of this
uh, you know, cost analysis, cost benefit, you know, this is something that's got to be done quicker the better as far as I'm concerned. >> Sir, thank you. >> Now, I have a question on what uh, Commissioner Dvalid brought up. He's got a home and he has an extra lot. What if
they were combined within >> with the you know the property lines if they've been combined is it still just one property and one assessment or >> if they were combined it would be one property one assessment >> that's that's what I would but they are combined >> yeah if they're combined it should be
just one assessment >> because they'll show up as one parcel ID one property owner the lot will be half acre etc but >> but it'll still be R1 >> yeah it'll still be R1 yeah >> yeah that's what I had thought. So I wanted to get that clarification for
you, sir. >> Yeah, that that that clarification, you know, because like I own two lots. They are combined. Now, if I'm only going to be paying one fee and now someone else owns say two separate lots, they're
going to be paying two fees. >> Correct? >> Yes. >> But the potential impact to those two separate lots is twice what you can impact my system with your one. >> Okay. which now suppose we have a larger land owner and he owns 50 lots that are
all combined in one. So he only going to pay one fee. >> It depends on his >> zoning, right? If it's like a that's why we kind of showed you the density versus acreage because you've got the estates which are three acre lots >> but they only have one residence. They
don't get any more service than what you get as an R1 with a quarter acre lot. So that's why we showed you that difference and and the difference it makes in what they would pay versus the service they receive compared to what you would pay and the service you receive.
>> And that's exactly where I'd be on the you were doing the three acre parcels. I didn't want them to see, you know, $1,200 when they can only have one structure. It should be fair to where it's a it's agriculture. they should be able to have their chickens, cows,
whatever, and their home as one parcel. So that that would I believe that was option two and that would be the way that I would be going with it. But go ahead, Commissioner Langden. >> Thank you, Mayor. And it's vice >> vice mayor. Damn it. Sorry.
>> Um, yeah, that was exactly my question. you know, if if our one zone properties have been combined, then one charge seems appropriate. I really like the density approach. I think it's a lot more fair in terms of the value being
consumed by those property owners. Um, and I also like charging the vacant lots based on their potential. that while not perfect, hedges our bets, you know, offloading some of that cost to people
who will move here in 5 years versus the people who are there. So, I really really like that. Um but but I totally get jazzed up by Commissioner um Stokes's comment about cops. I am a huge
cops proponent. We need to start that sooner or later. Um, however, this project has such immediate financial savings for the residents of
this city. I I agree with Commissioner Duval. The sooner we start on this, the better, but I think we also start on a cops. We have so many critical capital projects. I don't think it'll be very
difficult at all, Commissioner, to pick one. uh that we can use to initiate that project with. So we can walk and chew gum at the same time. I think we can get this project rolling and at the same time start, you know, let's pick a
project for cops. Maybe we're about to go into budget. I saw a binder on my desk, the intimidating binder, and uh we'll we'll find something to run through a cop's process. So, I'm full
steam ahead on this one-year charge. We suck it up. I do have one suggestion question. Our social services division does have a project where people who are struggling to pay their water bill, for example,
can get some relief. might it be possible to do something similar as a companion program to this project um where some funds might be made available to help offset for our
families who are just really really really stretched. Just a suggestion maybe a grant or um >> I can check with social services. >> You guys are pretty smart. I think you can figure it out.
Just a suggestion for those folks. Yeah. >> So, I have a few questions that I need answers to. I'm going to go through these options if we could if there's no more questions from the commission. >> No, I got nobody on the queue. >> All right. Perfect. So,
we need to go through option one and two. So, it's either pro you use an acreage based assessment or use the density based assessment. I'll make a consensus. >> Go ahead. >> Um I make a consensus that we use the
density based assessment um for this project. >> We have a consensus made by vice mayor. >> Good. Good job. >> Commissioner Dal, >> we don't need a second, right? >> No. >> No. >> Okay, I'm for it.
>> Okay, that's a yes. Yeah. Yes, I'm a yes. >> I'm a yes. >> Okay, that's option two. Correct. >> Yes, sir. >> All right. So, between option three and four, option number three is to maintain the service as we are,
not move forward with this one time uh one time or two time assessment. Option four is to approve the use of the assessment. And if you want to just tell me if you want to do a one time or a two time,
that'll take care of the next question as well. So, do we want to move forward with with an assessment and do we want it to be one year or two? >> Sure. Um, I'm uh asking for a consensus to move forward with the one-time fiscal
year 2027 transfer station assessment. Okay, we have a consensus for the one time. Commissioner Dval, >> yes. >> Commissioner Stokes, >> no. >> I'm a yes. >> I'm a yes.
>> So, that's three to one. >> I think that covers it for me. >> Are you sure, sir? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. Nothing else you need? >> No, sir. >> All right. That'll do it. Thank you. >> Thank you.
>> And public comment, sir. >> No public comment, Mr. Mayor. >> Thank you, sir. It is 12:27 and this meeting's adjourned.