##VIDEO ID:Vq1z2bPui5M## I WILL GO SEE THEM AND EDUCATE THEM ON A SOLID WASTE GUIDELINES MORE LESS MORE FOCUSED RECYCLE PART OF AFTER THAT I WILL DRIVE AROUND THE CITY AND I ACTUALLY EXPECT CYCLE CONTAINERS MANUALLY. FOR CONTAMINATION. ♪ AND THEN I WILL TAKE CALLS FROM DRIVERS IF THERE'S ♪ ANY ISSUES WITHOUT REPEAT. GARBAGE RECYCLE AND I WILL GO EDUCATE THE WHAT I LOVE MOST ABOUT THE CITY OF NORTH PORT IS THERE ARE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD. ♪ I GET TO LEARN ABOUT THE SOLID WASTE GUIDELINES WHEN THEY COME FROM AS WELL AS EDUCATE THEM ♪ ON THE CITY NORTH PORT'S ALWAYS GUIDELINES HOW TO RECYCLE PROPERLY. >> BELIEVE THAT THE NATURAL RESOURCES DEPARTMENT WILL BE INTEGRAL PART FOR THE CITY'S GROWTH IS WE WANT TO ACHIEVE A MORE BALANCED APPROACH OF DEVELOPMENT IN THE FUTURE WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO DO IS SEE SENSIBLE DEVELOPMENT SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT. >> AND ABOUT A MONTH THAT IN LYON WAIVES WHAT WE DO HAVE ALREADY HAVE HASTENED WE WANT TO PRESERVE AS MUCH AS WE CAN OF NATURAL RESOURCES, SO THAT IS STILL PLACE FULL ON THE OF ZAW ALL MIKE WRITING BAD SADDLED THE OF THE SPECIES THAT AND SURVIVED IT ALL HABITAT THAT ROLE SYSTEMS. BIG PART OF. >> THE WAYS YOU CALL SYSTEMS FUNCTION AND IMPORTANT PARTS FOR OUR COMMUNITY, OUR LIST THE SPECIES THEY STABILIZE THE SOIL THEY PROVIDE. SO MANY DIFFERENT BENEFITS, INCLUDING SHADE LIMITING THE HEAT ISLAND EFFECTS WITHIN OUR CITY ♪ PROVIDING HABITAT PROVIDING SHELTER FOR THE SPECIES. JUST TO ALSO FOR OUR IS THAT HE CAN JOIN MINCE WELL AS AN A LOT OF WHAT I DO IS. >> MAKING SURE THAT DEVELOPMENT CONFORMS TO THE TREE PROTECTION CODE SO ONE THING WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE SINCE APRIL OF 2022. IS A TREE PROTECTION CODE WHICH IS QUITE ROBUST AND THE CITY OF NORTH PORT THAT WAS ADOPTED BY COMMISSION AND THE CITY ALSO A LOT OF COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT AND SO WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO HAVE THE TREE PROTECTION CODE SO. >> WHAT I DO A LOT OF WHAT I DO IS MAKING SURE THAT DEVELOPMENT IN THE RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL CONFORMS TO THAT CODE WE OFF SUCH A PASSIONATE TEAM WE COME FROM. >> FACT I THINK BETWEEN US WE HAVE A 100 DAYS OF EXPERIENCE WE ARE EVERY RIGHT WING TO GO OUT AND YOU KNOW WE KNOW WHAT HE'S CUT OUT. WITH A ♪ HAPPY TO TAKE THE CHALLENGE TO DIVISION COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT. >> AND LEADERSHIP IN THE CITY WE REALLY HAVE TO MAKE GREAT STRIDES AND PROTECTING WHAT WE HAVE HERE AND FINDING THAT BALANCE WITH DEVELOPMENT AND ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP, I'M EXCITED TO BE A PART OF THIS TEAM REALLY. >> SEEKING AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. ♪ >> REX HAS A FULL CLASS TRX CAMP IS A NEW CLASS FOR ME, ALTHOUGH I'VE BEEN USING TRX FOR MANY YEARS WITH PERSONAL TRAINING THAT I DO OR IN OTHER STYLES CLASSES THAT I'VE DONE. BUT AN ACTUAL FOCUS WITH JUST TRX THIS IS A NEW CLASSROOM. I LOVE THE CAMARADERIE TO SAY WITH ALL ♪ THE PARTICIPANTS. I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF FUN. FIRST OF ALL EVERYONE GETS TO THE MANS THAT YEAR EXPENSE OF BEING THAT WE HAVE 5 STATIONS SO WE HAVE OVERFLOW OR MORE THAN 5 PEOPLE. PART OF THE PEOPLE ON THEM AND THE OTHER PEOPLE ARE DOING FOR WORK AND THEN WE'LL SWITCH SO EVERYBODY GETS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE AN IT IS TUESDAY 8/6/2024 IT IS. >> AND WE ARE IN THE CITY CHAMBERS AND I ALL CITY COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING TO ORDER. >> THIS IS WOULD BEATING THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PROPERLY NOTICED AND WILL BE CONDUCTED AS A HYBRID MEETING. THE QUIET THE USE OF COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA TECHNOLOGY CMT A PHYSICAL FORM VOTING MEMBERS IS PRESENT AND CITY COMMISSION CHAMBERS, A HYBRID MEETING ALLOWED VOTING MEMBERS TO ATTEND AND PARTICIPATE WITHOUT PHYSICALLY BEING PRESENT IN THE ROOM WITH THIS WARM AS CAN BE. WELL VICE MAYOR STOKES MYSELF MAYOR WHITE COMMISSIONER LANGDON AND COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL WILL NOW HEAR FROM COMMISSIONER IMAGE. >> GOOD EVENING. HAS AUTHORIZED BY CITY COMMISSION POLICY NUMBER 2021. KEN I'M ATTENDING THE HYBRID MEETING VIA COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA TECHNOLOGY BECAUSE I'M EXPERIENCING A MEDICAL CONDITION. THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE USE OF CMT FOR THIS HYBRID MOVED SECOND. I HAD A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON TO APPROVE THE USE OF CMT FOR THIS HYBRID MEETING AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY. ICE MAY OR WE WILL HAVE A VOICE. >> I >> SPARE PLACEMENTS YES, THEY ARE THE S LANGDON SAY YES ALAMO. >> COMMISSIONER AVERAGE. >> YES. >> ALL RIGHT SO THAT PASSES 4 TO ALSO PRESENT WE HAVE CITY MANAGER FLETCHER CITY ATTORNEY SLAYTON WE HAVE CITY CLERK ASKED SPECIALIST OVER. THE FIRE WE HAVE CHIEF HURLEY CORRECT ALL RIGHT AND FOR POLICE IS THAT COMMANDER WILLIAM I HAVE THAT YEAH. OKAY, SORRY CAPTAIN MARVEL OKAY AT. >> I THANK YOU FOR CORRECTING ME ON THAT AND FOR LATEST ON THAT. WHAT DO ALL AND SHERRY TO >> UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK I'M LOOKING FOR AND APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. >> MOVES. >> I HAVE FULL APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE WE WILL DO A VOICE VO ICE EXPERIENCE. MAYOR YES, LANGDON MISTER I MEAN ALL RIGHT SO THAT AFTER I WE ARE ON OUR WAY. WE'RE GOING GO TO ITEM 2 WHICH IS PUBLIC COMMENT. I JUST WANTED TO REMIND PEOPLE ABOUT OUR RULES OF DECORUM >> WE LOVE TO HEAR PEOPLE MAKING THEIR COMMENTS I KNOW. >> I DO AND I HAVE IN THE PAST AND IF YOU AGREE WITH SOMEBODY A THUMBS UP IF YOU DON'T SOME STOUT BECAUSE WE CAN SEE THAT FROM HERE AND THAT ALSO PREVENTS PEOPLE BEING INTIMIDATED IF THEY HAVE AN OPPOSING VIEW OF YOURS. TO BE ABLE TO COME UP HERE FREELY SPEAK THEIR MIND AS WELL. >> AND THAT YOU HAVE 3 MINUTES AND IF YOU WANTED TO MAKE A PUBLIC CAR COMMENT IS SURE YOU BUILD OUT A CARD AND IT'S IT'S UP HERE. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT AS WE DO ALL RIGHT. >> PAM TOPE CALLING REGARDING AGENDA. ONE I DON'T TAX 3 SAID I'M >> AND THE MEETING THEY 6. I COMMENT AND. EXAMPLE THAT I THE CITY THE WEBSITE REGARDING THE REFERENDUM. UNDERNEATH FAQ SECTION THAT HE'S LIKE GROW A FRONT ROW LIVE ON DEVELOPERS TO TAKE THE INFRASTRUCTURE PROBLEM. THEY CAN ONLY PAY WITH DEVELOPMENT. SPECIFICALLY IMPACTS TO THEIR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS A LOT EXPENSES ALONG PROJECTS WILL BENEFIT CITIZENS MANY FUTURE. BUT THEY HAVE THE ABILITY ABILITY TO INCUR BUT THE CAUSE OF THE IMPROVEMENT ACROSS THE PRESIDENT ARE REQUIRED ENTIRE PROJECT RESULTING IN HIGHER I DID QUESTION. A FEW MONTHS GOING FORWARD WITH ACTIVITIES THAT ARE 6.10 HOW THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND WOULD BE PAID FOR AND SHE DID ASSURE ME THAT STRUCTURE IN AREAS WON'T BE COVERED BUT THE IMPACT FOR THOSE AREAS. WE COULD GET TO AREA WHERE IT'S KIND DEVELOPMENT. MAYBE WE'RE NOT ABLE PAY ONLY COST TO EXTEND THE INFRASTRUCTURE. OKAY, MEANTIME THE WEB SITE THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO BORROW MONEY TO IMPROVE OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. AND THIS RADIATING WE WOULD HAVE THE DEVELOPERS PAY FOR THE AREAS. AND THAT WORKS FOR THE AREA, WHAT ABOUT THE RESIDENTS IN THIS SMALL THAT'S WHEN THE WATER AND SEWER. NOT THE ONE TO THE PROPERTY FOR A WHILE THEY WILL COME, BUT KNOW WHAT A WEEK FOR THE CITY TO BORROW MONEY TO IMPROVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO AREA. NO WE WERE LIKE WHAT PRIORITY CITY PUTS THE PROJECT CAME TO THE NOT BE ABLE TO SELL AND DEVELOP PROPERTY THAT THEY WANT. THE MIGHT GO THROUGH KNOWING HE WOULD THE RED THOSE SMALLER NEIGHBORHOOD, COUNTER IT. I NEED CHANGE >> TO HOW TO BY TO MEETING DATED 2024. >> 2020 FORECAST, 1320 24 DASH 15. >> EVERYTHING COMMISSION MEETING IN PERSON AND A LOT PLEADING WITH THE COMMISSIONERS TO DO THE RIGHT THING FOR COMMUNITY. WORKING I WANTED TO MAKE UP. CITY COMMISSIONERS, THE PAINTING BY PLANNING IMPLEMENT CHANGE IT WHICH OBVIOUSLY TO DETRIMENT OF THE REST CARE AFTER CONSIDERATION, IT CAME ME AT THINK THAT THAT AND MAYBE THE COMMISSIONERS MAY NEED COMFORT EACH AND SURE YOU'VE THE FINE AND AND COURSE ANY OUT OF THE GOODNESS OF ITS HEART IT WOULD APPRECIATE A PARTY WITH CAKE BALLOONS I THINK MAKING UNETHICAL POSSIBLY ILLEGAL DETENTION. WE HAVE CONSTITUENTS IS FOR INDIVIDUAL WHO WORK FOR THE THE PEOPLE SHE WAS GOING THE PEOPLE THAT TO DO THE RIGHT THING FOR >> HE TO JUST TRANSFERRING TREAT THIS CAUGHT FIRST I 2024 OUT. I THE AGENDA I WANT MISSION I BACK QUESTION IS WHETHER. THEY WILL SAID HE WOULD GOING TO PRESERVE THE GET WHAT PAY. HAVE TO DO JUST HAVE A HAVE A PARTIAL TO APPROVE A NEW DO POINT 3 POINT OUT. THING. DR. PUBLIC COMMISSIONER'S REPORT POSES IMMINENT YOU ALWAYS FEEL NOW. THE COMMISSION A CONCERN. AND PUBLIC DISCUSSION >> RATE A BARREL. IT I THINK UNDERSTANDING COMMISSION WILL RELINQUISH ELECTED OFFICIAL OVERSIGHT PUT RELATED TO TO TO WANT A PARTY IN THE HELP STRUCTURE VARYING DECISIONS SHOULD SHOWING YOU THINK THAT IT BUT READ IT AND HAVING OUR COMMUNITY CAN 2 OF ACTUAL IN THE NATION AND I THE PART PAINTING WHICH WE HAVE TO BUILDING EXPERTISE HIS TOUR AREA ABOUT A RATION PERCENT. AND BEING DEMOLISHED. WHAT HAPPENED TO WANT TO IF ARE LOT DECISION-MAKING WITH NO A COMMISSION OR AND YOU CAN TAKE AND THE RESPONSIBILITY ELECTED OFFICIAL I DON'T THINK YOU TO HAVE IT'S A REALLY IT IN OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. THIS THE >> 8 OF THEM MAKING AGENDA ITEMS ORDER NUMBER 2020 FORECAST ON TRAIN AND 24 DASH ONE. CHANGING THE DEFINITION OF STUDY SECTION DAY. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE RESIDENTS TRY PUBLIC TO BE TAKEN AWAY CITY COMMISSIONER PLAY IN DECISION. A CHANCE FOR MAJOR AND ALL THE THANK VERY MUCH. >> COST FROM OR TAX. MEETING EVENING WHICH TO STAY THAT 2024. 2024 13 AND WATER NUMBER 2020 BOARD I LIKE TO CALL DO NOT CHANGE THE DEFINITION OF PLAN AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY DO NOT ALLOW YOU ABOUT OF MONEY TO BE USED TO JUSTIFY GOLF COURSE PLAN BUILD THE FAMILY HOUSING UNITS. AND SHOULDN'T OUT I HOPE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT ESTABLISH NEW DENSITY INTENSITY AND LAND USES AND ARE 8 PRETTY IT AND THAT'S HAVE THANK YOU. >> THE MEETING DATE IS AUGUST TIMES 6 THE COMMISSION MEETING FOR TONIGHT AGENDA ITEMS 2024 TO 1320 24 18. I DON'T CHARGE YOU NEED A COMMISSION TO VOTE NO OR TO CONTINUE ON 2024 TO 1320 2415 FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS ON MAY 28 THAT WAS A COMMISSION WHICH I INTENDED BE THE STAFF DID NOT PROVIDE THE COMMISSION WITH THE COMMISSION TO PLAN QUESTIONING HE SAID REGARD TO 2024. DESCHANEL NOT. DO WE DO ADDITIONAL ITEMS OF THE SECTARIAN CREEK AND NORTH PORT DEVELOPMENT CONCERN IS HOW THESE TORTOISES TWENTY-TWENTY OR 1320 2417 DEVELOPMENT PARCEL K. COULD YOU PLEASE GET ANSWERS TO THE FOLLOWING 2 QUESTIONS SO WE THE PUBLIC TOTAL OF 2024 OUT THERE DEVELOP DEVELOP LOCATED PASSAGE THINK ANY APPEAL TO THAT YOU MAKE DECISION REGARDING PARCEL PAYING OFF. ♪ ♪ ONE COMMISSIONER STATE CARL PEI FINAL AND THERE'S NOT MUCH TO TO THE END MY FIRST QUESTION IS BECAUSE THE CONTINUES TO PROVIDE INFORMATION OF THE STUFF ARE THERE WERE SOMETHING NOBODY WANTS TO TALK WHEN YOU FINALLY GET UNDERSTAND THE ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS BECAUSE I'M SURE OF SEEMS ACTIONS OF A 28. COMMUNICATION WITH THE JUNE 18 PART OF THE THAT WAS AN ADMINISTRATIVE A QUESTION. AND THAT COMMISSION MEETING GETTING IN THE WON'T BUT THE ANSWER IS THEY LOCATED CAN BE DEVELOPED 39 PER ACRE BY ORDINANCE AND IT ABOUT THE COVER NEEDED TO MAKE THE WHOLE SITUATION GO AWAY. THE DEVELOPER USE ALL OF A BRIDGE IN DETERMINING I DON'T YOUR PORES BETTER THAN PROVIDE TRANSPARENCY HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE. THE COMMISSION'S MISTER YOU NEED TO MAKE CHANGES IN THE PROCESS THAT ALLOWED TRANSPARENCY AND FOR THE RESIDENTS TO BELIEVE IN NEED FOR THE DEVELOPER TOLD PEOPLE THAT. >> THINK THAT LITTLE BIT >> POINT. AND 9, 8, 8, ALL ABOUT AT 06:00PM AT A BRIEF PREVIOUSLY COMMERCIAL LED AN END HIGH OR LOW INTENSITY. >> THAT IT CAN INTENSITY. YOU'RE CHANGING COUNTY IN OR AND YOU WANT CALL YOU'RE TRYING ALLOW TALLER BUILDING AND A LOT OF COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. I'M HAPPY PROPERTY >> CARRY A LOT SHOULD NOT A COMMERCIAL, BUT YOU REALLY DON'T WANT TO BE COMMERCIAL. I'M SURE THE CITIZENS OF PORT. ONLY DONATIONS ARE GOING GOING TOO THAT WOULD ALL BE HERE THEY WOULD ALL BE UP IN ARMS, YOU'RE DOING THAT MIND. I THINK YOUR JOB REALLY GET INJURED UP TO BE WORKING FOR AND THINK REALLY CHANGING COLORS BEHIND PEOPLE AND FOR LIVING AND OVER AND DON'T A THAT HAVE TO PICK I KNOW ANYWAY. THANKFULLY BEFORE YOU GO ON >> AND CONSIDER THE PEOPLE IN REPORT BEFORE MAKE ANY >> TORY HUTCHINSON GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS, I'M WRITING TO OPPOSE THE PROPOSED REZONING FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL AS PRESENTED. I UNDERSTAND POTENTIAL NEED TO DIVERSIFY THE CITY'S TAX BASE HOWEVER WE'RE SEEING THE CONSEQUENCES FOR DEVELOPMENT OR DEVELOPMENT THE LAW FLOODING ALONG WITH OTHER IMPACTS OF NATURAL DISASTERS WILL ONLY GET WORSE AS WE BUILD MORE AND MORE HAVING LARGE COMMERCIAL VENTURES LOCATED NEAR AND WERE WITHIN RESIDENTIAL AREAS WILL THOSE PROPERTIES PROBLEMS FOR THEM OR THERE'S LIKELY TO BE SIGNIFICANT COST TO IMPROVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THESE AREAS TO BE ABLE TO ACCEPT COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS AND THE TRAFFIC THAT COMES ALONG AREAS IN THE PROPOSED REZONING MAPS THAT ARE ALREADY SENSITIVE TO FLOODING AND DO THAT LACK INFRASTRUCTURE, SIGNIFICANT COSTS WILL BE INCURRED TO MITIGATE DISASTER RISKS AND IMPROVE INFRASTRUCTURE WHICH WILL MOSTLY BE PAID FOR BY THE TAXPAYERS. DEVELOPMENT HAS A RIPPLE EFFECT AS NEIGHBORHOOD SURROUNDING NEW COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WILL ALSO BE AFFECTED. POSSIBLY NEEDING COSTLY MITIGATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS, NORTH PORT IS A GREAT CITY, BUT IT HAS ITS LIMITATIONS LIKE ALL CITIES DO. THE MORE WE CONTINUE TO BATTLE AGAINST WHAT NORTH PORT WAS MEANT TO BE THE MORE WILL END UP PAYING IN THE LONG RUN NATURE ALWAYS WINS. PERSON, DAVID FOLLOWED BY SPROUTS AND THE CENTER AND W BLACKWELL. >> DAVID AVENUE PORT. >> FIRST I WANT TO SAY WAS THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MC YOU KNOW START SO LAST TERM OVER THE YEARS CERTAINLY THERE'S PLENTY THINGS I DON'T AGREE WITH THEIR OWN. BUT I NEVER HAD DOUBT THAT SHE HAD. TAXPAYERS IN MIND WITH EVERYTHING SHE DID. AND SHE ASKED QUESTIONS THAT REFLECTED WHAT. WORKING CLASS CITIZENS OF THIS TIME WE WANT TO KNOW SEE COMMISSION JUST DO. AND I WANT TO THANK HER FOR HER SERVICE AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT IT MEANS TO ELECTED REPRESENTING BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT LIKE TO REFERENCE REPRESENTATIVE DOES. THEY DON'T COME THERE AND SAY WELL THE STAFF OF EXPERTS AND WE JUST SIGN OFF ON THAT. THAT IS NOT WHAT YOUR JOB IS THE CITY CHARTER WAYS OUT THERE THAT YOU GUYS THE ONLY LEGISLATIVE POWER IN THE CITY WHICH MEANS YOU NEED TO BE THE CHAT. ON THE GOVERNMENT ON THE FOR THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO JUST PUT ALL THIS STUFF FOR YOU GUYS TO SAY WELL, I KNOW BEST AND NOT THINK ABOUT THE CITIZENS MEANS OUR SYSTEM IS COMPLETELY BROKEN. IF YOU GUYS DON'T DO YOUR JOB. WE DON'T HAVE A FUNCTIONING GOVERNMENT AND CHANGES TO THE FUTURE USE LAND MAP WHICH ARE PART OF A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ARE SO IMPORTANT. BUT THE STATE HAS STATUTES THAT YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW WHEN YOU DO THIS I BELIEVE YOU GUYS HAVE VIOLATED THOSE STATUTES BUT HAD NO MEANINGFUL INPUT FROM THE CITIZENS ON THESE DRASTIC REZONING PLANS IN THE CITY, YOUR RADICALLY CHANGING THE CITY, EVERYBODY 1520 YEARS AGO THAT PRICE BOULEVARD GET WHY BECAUSE THE CITY WON EVERYBODY KNEW THAT PINE TREES ON TOLEDO BLADE GET PLOWED NOW, EVERYBODY KNEW THAT SOMETHING WOULD GET DEVELOPED EVERYBODY KNEW THAT THERE HAD SOLD A BILL COMMERCIAL ZONE PROPERTIES THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOODS BUT NOBODY SO THAT YOU GUYS WOULD SAY LET'S QUADRUPLE OR 10 TIMES THE AMOUNT OF THESE PROBLEM PROPERTIES THAT ARE ZONED COMMERCIAL IN NEIGHBORHOODS AND DRASTICALLY INCREASE THE INTENSITY OF DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU CAN PUT JUST COMPLETELY WRONG PEOPLE MOVE TO THESE NEIGHBORHOODS ANY REASONABLE PERSON THAT MOVED INTO THESE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE OFF COLLECTOR ROADS WITH THINK THIS IS RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. THERE IS NO YOU WOULD THINK THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX WILL BE BUILT DIRECTLY IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS IS CRIMINAL WHAT YOU'RE DOING TO THE TO THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THIS TIME. WHAT'S REALLY SAD AND DISAPPOINTING ABOUT ALL THIS MASTERCLASS UNDEMOCRATIC GOVERNMENT THAT YOU GUYS ARE PUTTING ON IS THAT YOU KNOW I TRY GET PEOPLE TO COME OUT AND SPEAK. REALLY BOTHERS ME IS THEY ALL SAY TO ME WHY IT DOESN'T MATTER. AND. THAT'S THAT'S WHAT YOU WITH THAT. AND MEAN FOR PROBLEMS DISSENTED IT. >> I'M JUST GOING LEAD INTO SOMETHING UP SEVERAL TIMES TONIGHT. BUT WHAT I DO WANT TO SAY IS THAT WE COME BEFORE YOU AND I'M GOING BACK UPDATED A LOT OF THINGS HE SAID WE COME BEFORE YOU BECOME BEFORE YOU HEAR FROM THE PEOPLE HEAR FROM US. AND WHAT LIKE WERE IGNORED. >> AND HE IS WHY WE CAN'T GET PEOPLE TO SHOW UP ANYMORE BECAUSE THEY SAY WHAT THE HECK THEY LISTEN TO US ANYWAY. THEY DON'T CARE THEY JUST MAKE UP THEIR OWN MINDS. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN AGENDAS AND THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO. AND THIS THE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE WITH THE REFERENDUM AND JUST BASICALLY EVERYTHING THAT YOU REALLY WANT TO TRY AND GET BY THE PEOPLE BECAUSE THE OPPOSITION BECAUSE WE FEEL NOT LISTEN TO WE COME BEFORE YOU AND WE HAVE EXPERTISE IN SO MANY SUBJECT MATTERS THAT WOULD BE EQUIVALENT TO STEP AND GO BEYOND THAT, ESPECIALLY MYSELF WHEN I COME BEFORE YOU AND I GIVE YOU RECOMMENDATIONS AND I AND I TELL YOU WHAT SHOULD BE WHAT SUGGESTING SHOULD BE DONE AND IT JUST LIKE THEY WOULD LIMBAUGH. THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE I HID NOTHING. I DON'T EVEN SEE THEM INCORPORATE IT IT'S LIKE I'M TALKING TO THE WIND AND I'M STILL COMING UP THE FLOOR YOU EVERY SINGLE TIME AND I GET EMOTIONAL BECAUSE I LOVE THIS CITY SO MUCH AND WHAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO DO. IT'S JUST KICKING US IN THE EXCUSE MY LANGUAGE, BUT HOW MANY TIMES WE HAVE TO GET BEFORE YOU AND PLEA TO YOU TO NOT DO CERTAIN THINGS AND DO NOT INVADE IN CERTAIN ASPECTS OF NEIGHBORHOODS. IT'S NOT RIGHT. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY HOTEL NEXT TO WHERE YOU LIVE WHAT A MECHANIC SHOP NEXT THE WAY YOU LIVE. ALL OF NIGHT PUT NEXT TO IT IT MOVE WE COULD BE APPEALED TO THE OPPOSITION TOO. AND WE'RE NOT A VOCAL MINORITY AND I REALLY A THING REFERRED TO THAT AS A VOCAL MINORITY WE ARE CITIZENS WHO CARE ABOUT THIS CITY. WE HAVE A VOICE WE USE VOICE WE SHOULD NOT BE REFERRED TO AS A VOCAL MINORITY. WITH JUST THE ONES WHO GET UP HERE AND BEFORE TIME OF THE TIME AND AGAIN CAN ACTUALLY SPEAK BEFORE YOU WHO ARE NOT GIVING UP. HAVE NOT GIVEN UP. THAT'S IT I CAN GO ON AND ON ABOUT HOW MY HEART IS BREAKING FOR WHAT'S GOING ON. >> PLAY THE. GOOD EVENING. I'M DEBBY BLACKWELL I LIVE IN THE WARM MINERAL SPRINGS NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT CAST MAYOR LIKE THAT FOR NOW AND THEY'RE RUNNING. THIS COPY OF THE CONSTITUTION UNITED STATES OF AMERICA THAT THE LATE SENATOR ROBERT BYRD GAVE ME WHEN I WAS DEN LEADER DEBBIE UP IN WEST, VIRGINIA. >> HE KEPT IN HIS POCKET ALL THE TIME SOMETIMES SENATOR MADE SOME MISTAKES HE MADE SOME BIG MISTAKES AND WHEN YOU MAKE THOSE MISTAKES YOU REALIZE IT'S A MISTAKE ANY CHANGED ITS PATH. WE THE PEOPLE ARE WONDERING. COMPETITIVE BIDDING IS A FORMAL PROCESS THAT ALLOWS BUSINESSES AND GOVERNMENT AGENCIES TO REQUEST THEM IDENTIFY SERVICES AND EQUIPMENT AND THEN INVITE MULTIPLE VENDORS TO BID ON THEM. IT'S OFTEN USED WHEN A LARGE SCALE DELIVERY OF PRODUCTS OR SERVICES IS REQUIRED. LET'S BUILD A NEW POLICE HEADQUARTERS 222 MILLION TAXPAYER DOLLARS BRING THE VOTERS THAT WE MUST HAVE IT AND NO COMPETITIVE BIDS ARE REQUIRED. LET'S DO NOTHING. ONE BID IS FINE. LET'S HEAD THE P 3 FOR WARM MINERAL SPRINGS, ALL OF A SUDDEN THE PLAN IS IN PLACE AND IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. LET'S DO NOTHING. THE CITIZENS REQUESTED CERTAIN RECOMMEND IT'S 2 NOTHING. LET'S IGNORE THE WARM MINERAL SPRINGS PARK AND HAVE THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT DO NOT THINK DESPITE ALL THAT TALENT AND EDUCATION AVAILABLE THERE. IN THAT DEPARTMENT NO TRAILS NEW SOCCER FIELD OFF. WENT FENCE. LET'S DO NOTHING FOR THE ONLY PROPER THE PARK IN THE CITY. WE NEED TO HAVE ACCESS TO MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR EMERGENCIES. THERE'S A POINT SPOT UP. LET'S HAVE A REFERENDUM THIS YEAR SO WE CAN GET ACCESS TO MILLIONS OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS. LET'S DO NOTHING TO PREVENT INFRASTRUCTURE FAILURE PROVEN INCREASE THE SEWER AND WATER LINES, LET'S DO NOTHING. THE CITIZENS CAN BE EASILY BAMBOOZLED AND TO CHANGES IN THEIR PROPERTY SETTING AND CITIES IT. WE WILL HAVE THEM FOCUS ON CARS PARKED IN GRASSY LAWNS AND WE SEE IT AS WE SEND NEIGHBORHOODS FOR THE COMFORT OF DEVELOPERS ADD WHATEVER IS PROFITABLE. IT'S 2 NOTHING ABOUT SAVING THE TREE CANOPY AND THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS AND SAFE CLIMATE PLANNING FOR THE VOTERS IN THE YEAR 2065. DID YOU SEE THE PHOTOS ARE SO WE FEEL FROM YESTERDAY. THAT'S FROM OVER PLANT THAT'S OVER DEVELOPMENT. THINK >> AND TODAY CARLO ALBAN NOT AND AND LOW BACK. ANSWER TO CARLO CUTHBERT AVENUE PORT. THERE ARE FEW ISSUES I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT FOR EXAMPLE, THIS REZONING ISSUE IS A HIGH INTEREST AS I'M SURE YOU KNEW IT WOULD BE. SO INSTEAD OF TAKING THE MINIMAL. EXTRA EFFORT TO NOTIFY ALL THE CITIZENS YOU DECIDED TO TAKE THE PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE AND SNEAK IT THROUGH YOU DUG DEEP TO FIND THE MOST MINIMAL REQUIREMENTS YOU COULD LEGALLY GET AWAY WITH TO REZONE PROPERTY. YOU ALL KNOW FULL WELL THAT THE PRIVATE VERY SMALL LOCAL NEWSPAPER THAT YOU ADVERTISED IN TWICE TO FULFILL YOUR MINIMUM REQUIREMENT HAS AN EXTREMELY LOW CIRCULATION. IT SEEMS PRETTY UNDERHANDED AND SNAKE. SAME FOR THE EMERGENCY MONEY ARE REQUESTING. I PERSONALLY THINK IT NEEDS TO BE TABLED AND NOT GROUPED TOGETHER WITH ANOTHER ORDINANCE. I HOPE TONIGHT IS THAT EVERYONE IN THIS AUDIENCE AND EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY REMEMBER THAT MOST OF THESE COMMISSIONERS, BUT WE ONLY DESERVED THE MINIMUM COME ELECTION TIME LET'S SHOW THEM OUR APPRECIATION. >> MY NAME IS JUDY YOU I'M A RESIDENT OF NORTH PORT FEEL LIKE THIS IS MY LAST OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST THE REZONE AND IT'S REALLY SAD THAT THE EXPECTATION IS THAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING OR WHAT EVERYONE SAYS AND JUST PAST ANYWAYS WE ALL KNOW THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE WE'VE THROUGH. >> SO MANY NEEDLES WITH TONS OF PUBLIC COMMENT. >> AND YOU JUST DO THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF WHAT EVERYONE WANTS. AND IT'S LIKE FOR ME SAID IT'S LIKE VERY SNEAKY THE WAY IT'S BEEN DONE. IT DOESN'T HAVE THE INTERESTS OF THE PEOPLE IN MIND REZONING OF RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE WAY THAT YOU'VE DONE IT IS JUST COMPLETELY WRONG. IT'S GOING DESTROY OUR CITY AND IT'S GOING TO BE THE LEGACY THAT YOU LEAVE BEHIND. AND IT'S REALLY GOING TO MAKE IT UNLIVABLE PLACE SO THANK YOU. >> BEEN CALLED ON YOU. CITY MANAGER REST OF YOUR A LITTLE AGAIN OF THE ATTORNEY FOR THE AIR AND FREE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION. COMMUNITY OF LOVE. 831 HOLES AND THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE YOUR CONSTITUENTS. AND I RISE AT THIS POINT HAVING. PRACTICE LAND USE OF THE PIER BEFORE MISSIONS LIKE THIS FOR WELL OVER 30 YEARS. BUT COUNTLESS TIMES. I HAVE NEVER SEEN 3 MINUTES ALLOWED. A CITIZEN TO ADDRESS AMENDMENTS TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS TO LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, HUNDREDS OF PAGES. YOU CAN'T DO IT WITHIN THAT CALL IT. YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AND AND THANK YOU FOR NOT MAKING WAIT 8 HOURS TO GET TO IT AS YOU DID THE LAST 2 TIMES. HOPEFULLY THIS POINT THOUGH TOO LONG YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE WITH THE PUBLIC. GAMES WITH ME ON THEIR BEHALF, I'M EXPERT AT THESE KIND OF THINGS I HAVE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE FOR YOU IF YOU LIKE ASK YOU PLANS BEING REQUIRED AFTER THE DRI EXPIRES FORT SENSE. YOU KNOW ONE 30 THIS AFTERNOON STAFF RESPONDED TO. SOME POINT SITES ENTER YOU INTO THEM. WEST THE PREVIOUS NIGHT AND I WAS WIDE AGAIN 2 HOURS LATER AND I IF I COULD ASK TO BE THOSE OF YOU HAVE NOT IN THE LAST COUPLE OF HOURS HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT MY REPLIES. BUT STAFF OTHER THAN ONE POINT LIGHT AT THE END WHERE THEY HAD SOME SO THINGS THAT WERE COMPLETELY NOT TRUE. THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE GIVEN A CHANCE TONIGHT IF YOU WANT TO HEAR WHAT THE PUBLIC IS ASKING ABOUT AT ALL. WHICH HAS BEEN LARGELY DISREGARDED. AND ALL THESE HEARINGS TODAY YOU WANT TO HAVE A DIALOGUE. YOU'RE PROBABLY LET STAFF HAVE UNLIMITED TIME TO SAY THINGS THAT FRANKLY WITH ALL RESPECT TO STAFF ARE LARGELY UNTRUE. WE CAN TELL YOU WHY THEY ARE. BUT I RISE SPECIFICS RIGHT NOW. YOU KNOW THEY ARE UP MINUTES LATER ON THE SPEAK TO THOSE. THAT'S REALLY NEEDED AND YOU CAN GRANTED IF YOU WANT TO. BUT TO SUGGEST TO YOU FROM MY AND FOR THE HEARTS OF THE PEOPLE IN BUT THE WAY TO HAVE UNITY IN YOUR COMMUNITY. WHICH WAS YOUR BIG RIGHT NOW CITY MANAGER SPEAKS TO WEBSITES YOU KNOW GET UNITY IN YOUR COMMUNITY BY SUPPRESSING. EXPRESSIONS OF CONCERN AND POLICY. WELL YOUR RESIDENCE. YOU KNOW I ANALYZED AND ALL GUYS TO THAT IS WELL IT'S OBVIOUSLY MUCH MORE HARSH. BUT SO DAD TOO. YOU KNOW WE'RE NOT GOING TO PEOPLE SPEAK. WE'RE NOT GOING TO LET PEOPLE HAVE A MEANINGFUL OPPORTUNITY FOR INPUT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE DIALOGUE WOULD GO TO DIFFERENT COMPLETELY THE STAFF. MAKES POLICY CONFERRING BEHIND THE WITH DEVELOP. >> IT'S NOT RIGHT. YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO TURN THE CORNER TONIGHT WE SEE. AND I HOPE YOU THANK YOU TAKE A DIFFERENT PATH. THANKS TO LOW BACK. IS THAT IT. ALL >> MOVING ON TO ITEM 3 WHICH IS THE CONSENT AGENDA CITY MANAGER HAVE ANY ITEMS BEEN YES, MADAM MAYOR. WE FOR THAT ONE THAT'S THE ONLY AND IT OF THAT. WE'RE JUST GOING TO DISCUSS THAT CORRECT. JUST DON'T THINK WE'LL BE VOTING ON RIGHT. YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE TO PUT A A POLL >> WITHOUT OKAY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL TAKE NEW. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU MAYOR THE REASON WHY HOLD THAT IS NOT FOR THE ENTIRE CONSENT AGENDA MINUTES, BUT ONE SPECIFIC SET OF MINUTES AND THAT IS THE ONE STATED MAY 14TH 2024. I HAD SUBMITTED TO THE CITY CLERK. SOME RECOMMENDED THOSE RECOMMENDED CHANGES HAD TO DO WITH A VOTE THAT WAS INACCURATELY RECORDED IN THESE MINUTES PRESENTED. IT WAS ACTUALLY ONE YES VOTE 3 NO VOTES AND ABSENT BOW. THE CITY CLERK REVIEWED MY RECOMMENDATION SAID YES WE NEED TO CORRECT IT BUT FOR SOME REASON THAT WAS NOT UP LOADED OR DISCUSSED TO BE CORRECT. SO THAT'S I DID ADVISE THE CITY PARK AND THE CITY MANAGER IS TO THE REASON WHY WAS PULLING IT. AND HERE WE ARE TODAY. OK >> YES THAT IS NOT CHANGE TAKE SO WE APPROVE THOSE AS AMENDED YOU CAN APPROVE ALL THE OTHER ONES AND THEN APPROVED THOSE AMENDED TO UPDATE THE. THE MOTION YES, SO IT'S JUST A MAY 14 MAY NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED FOR THE VOTE FOR THE DISCUSSION WE HAD REGARDING THE THINK TANK THE COUNTY AND THE STATE OFFICIALS. >> THE MOTION FAILED ON THE FOLLOWING VOTE OF. YES FOR MCDOWELL KNOW FOR WHITE STOKES AND LANGDON AND I'M RICH WAS ABSENT THAT IS THE CORRECT VOTE. BUT IT WAS NOT CAPTURED IN SPOTLIGHT. THEY HAD ME DOWN AS A NO VOTE TONIGHT WILL YES, OK. THAT'S LONG SHORT OF IT'S PLAIN THAT REALLY WELL BECAUSE YOU KNOW I GOT IT THANK YOU. >> SO WE COULD APPROVE JULY 11TH MAY 28 APRIL 23RD AND THIS WILL COME BACK IS THAT SOME UNDERSTANDING CITY WAKING UP WITH THOSE WINDS AS PRESENTED AND THEN APPROVED THE MAY 14 AS AMENDED. >> AND WE WILL AMEND THEM. OKAY AT THE MAKE A MOTION COMMISSIONER. IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION FOR MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS. COMMENT. >> MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES DATED JULY 11. MAY 28. APRIL 23RD AS PRESENTED AND CHANGING THE MEETING MINUTES FROM A 14. TO REFLECT THE ACCURACY OF THE VOTE HAS WITH THE E-MAIL DATED JUNE 4TH TO THE CITY PARK. >> ALL RIGHT SO WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF JULY 11 MAY 28 AND APRIL 23RD AS PRESENTED AND THE MINUTES FROM MAY 14. CHANGING THEM CHANGING THOSE MINUTES REFLECT THE ACTUAL ACCURATE CORRECT. AS THAT SOUNDS COMMISSIONER DO I HAVE A SECOND DO. >> ALL SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR. IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE WILL DO A VOICE. BOTH VICE MAYOR VICE MAYOR MAYOR ZS LAND MCS MICHELLE, YES COMMISSIONER AVERAGE. YES ALL RIGHT SO THAT PASSES 5 TO 0. MAY NOT ITEM FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS. ORDINANCE SECOND READINGS A 2024 DASH 20 I. THIS IS A QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING CITY CLERK. AND YOU THIS BY TITLE ONLY ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 25 AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY IN NORTH PORT FLORIDA REZONING APPROXIMATELY 27.7 8, 1, 6 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED SOUTH OF SOUTH TAMIAMI TRAIL US 41 EAST OF SOUTH WEST VILLAGES PARKWAY. >> IN SECTION 3233 TOWNSHIP 39 RANGE 20 EAST OF SARASOTA COUNTY AND FOR THE DESCRIBING INSTRUMENT NUMBER 201-514-1220 IN OFFICIAL RECORDS IN SARASOTA COUNTY FROM NOSING DESIGNATION DISTRICT ANDY DE ESTE OCCASION TO VILLAGE BE CLASSIFICATION AMENDING THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS PROVIDING FOR FILING OF APPROVED DOCUMENTS PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING FOR COMPLEX PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE CAN EVERYONE WISHING TO PROVIDE TESTIMONY PLEASE STAND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. FAR FROM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO PROVIDE IS TRUE AND ACCURATE TEST YOUR KNOWLEDGE TO HELP YOU GOT THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU DO WE HAVE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS VICE MAYOR. >> NO NOTHING SINCE THE LAST MEETING WE HAD. >> OK THE SAME NOTHING SINCE THE LAST MEETING LIKE LINE DONE NOTHING SINCE FIRST READING. COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL ON THE ONLY IS WHAT I DISCLOSED AT FIRST READING. COMMISSIONER AND RICH. >> NOTHING EXTRA ACCEPT FOR WHAT I DISCLOSED FIRST READ >> OK THANK CITY CLERK DO WE HAVE ANY AGGRIEVED KNOW AGGRIEVED PARTIES FOR US THE MOUNTAIN. ALRIGHT PRESENTATION BY APPLICANT. >> AGAIN FOR THE RECORD JACKSON TENANTS ARE IN LAW FIRM ENGINE FOR THE APPLICANT PROPERTY OWNER SAID THE MEMORIAL HOSPITAL ASSERT SOME COUNTY PUBLIC HOSPITAL DISTRICT. WE BASICALLY THE LONG AND SHORT OF IT AT FIRST READING VERY SIMPLE REZONING REQUEST. WE'VE MADE THE RECORD EFFORTS READING AS WELL OPT INTO THIS READING AND RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL, THANK YOU. RIGHT SHORT AND SWEET. ♪ ♪ >> PRESENTATION BY STAFF. >> GOOD EVENING. COMMISSIONERS FOR THE RECORD SHERRY WILL ACT ON AND PLAN OR 3 PLANNING AND ZONING DIVISION. I HAVE BEEN SWORN. STAFF DOES NOT HAVE A PRESENTATION THIS EVENING. EVERYTHING WAS ADDRESSED AT FIRST READING STAFF IS RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING APPROVAL FOR THE REZONING ORDINANCE FOR ADOPTION. THANK YOU ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. >> FOR THE APPLICANT ANY REBUTTAL. NO MA'AM NO REBUTTAL ALL RIGHT AND FOR THE RECORD STEPH ANY REBUTTAL. STAFF HAS REBUTTAL. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT ANY PUBLIC COMMENT CITY CLERK. LOOKING FOR ANY COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER AVERAGE YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >> NO MA'AM. >> MOVING ON TO CLOSING ARGUMENTS ANYTHING FROM. STAFF HAS NO CLOSING ARGUMENTS THANK YOU. THANK APPLICANT ANY CLOSING ARGUMENTS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO I CLOSE PORTION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I'M LOOKING FOR A MAKE ONE MAYOR GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 24 DASH 25. >> AND FIND THAT BASED ON THE COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THE REZONING WILL NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE PUBLIC INTEREST HEALTH SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE AND THAT THE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS AND THE CITY NOT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. >> AND THE STANDARD LISTED IN SECTION ONE DASH 33 ANYONE OF THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE HAVE BEEN MET. >> ALL RIGHT SO WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 20 I. WE FIND THAT BASED ON THE COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THE REZONING WILL NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE PUBLIC INTEREST HELP SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE AND THAT SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS AND THE CITY OF NORTH PORT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE STANDARDS. >> THIS IS A DONE SECTION ONE DASH 33.81 OF THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE HAVE BEEN. >> MET. WE HAVE A SECOND IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. A I'M GOING TO CALL FOR THE VOTE. I AIR BASE YES. >> THEY ARE ZS LANGDON IS YES MCDOWELL, YES, COMMISSIONER EMRICH. >> YES, ALL RIGHT SO THAT PASSES HIGH >> ON TO ITEM B ORDINANCE NUMBER 20 2024 DASH 26 AGAIN IS JUDICIAL AND GOING ON THE BY TITLE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 26 AND ORDINANCE OF THE FL AMENDING THE VILLAGE VILLAGE DISTRICT PATTERN PLAN WEST VILLAGES AK WELLEN PARK. >> AMENDING THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, 2 BEST FRIENDS THEM ENDED VILLAGE DISTRICT PATTERN PLAN, PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS PROVIDING FOR ADOPTION PROVIDING FOR COMPLEX PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE YOU HAVE A MOTION BY PROVIDE TESTIMONY PLEASE STAND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. SARAH FROM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO PROVIDE AS ACCURATE TO THE BEST YEAR KNOWLEDGE SO HELP YOU GOD. I DO THINK HAPPENED. >> AND AGAIN I'M GONNA CALL FOR DISCLOSURE OF ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS VICE MAYOR OF THING IS FRUSTRATING. NOTHING NEW SINCE FIRST READING LANGDON NOTHING NEW SINCE FIRST READING. >> ONLY THEY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION I DISCLOSED AT FIRST READING. >> COMMISSIONER AVERAGE. NOTHING NEWSOM'S FIRST READING RIGHT. THANK YOU. CITY CLERK, ANY AGGRIEVED PARTIES RIGHT. SO MOVING ON TO A PRESENTATION BY APPLICANT. >> AGAIN FOR THE RECORD JACKSON ASIAN FOR THE APPLICANT AND PROPERTY OWNERS OR SO THE COUNTY PUBLIC HOSPITAL DISTRICT COMING AS A SMIDGE WE DO HAVE THE SAME PROJECT TEAM THAT WAS HERE AT FIRST READING THAT TO PIGGYBACK ON THE PRESENTATION FOR THE REZONING VERY WE COVER LONG AND THE SHORT OF IT AT FIRST READING WE DO HAVE FOR YOU ALL AS PART OF THE FOR APPROVAL TONIGHT. CHANGES WE DISCUSSED THE FIRST READING HAVE BEEN MADE AND HAVE BEEN INCORPORATED IN A MONTH IN SPACE HAS BEEN PROVIDED WE'VE REMOVED THAT PROPOSED EXCLUSION FROM THE WEST VILLAGE'S REVIEW COMMITTEE APPROVAL PROCESS ALSO IM PLEASED TO SAY AS WE MENTIONED AT THE FIRST READING BETWEEN JULY 23RD AND TODAY AUGUST 6 WILL BE WORKING WITH HOME PARK. WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO RESOLVE THAT MATTER WITH THEM AND HAVE REACHED AN AGREEMENT WITH AS WELL. SO THANK YOU FOR PLACING FAITH AND BOTH OF US TO BE ABLE TO PUT THAT TOGETHER AND A VERY PLEASE SHARE THAT WITH YOU WITH THAT SAID. THIS IS ALL PART OF A MASTER PLANNING PROCESS AGES LOOKING FORWARD TO COMPLETING THAT. EVENTUAL SOME MIDDLE FOR PERMITS FOR THE SITE AND ALSO I WOULD BE REMISS THANK STAFF FOR THE HARD WORK THAT THEY'VE PUT IN IN THIS APPLICATION PROCESS AS WELL WITH THAT ALL SAID WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL FOR THE VP AMEND THAT AND WERE AVAILABLE YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT PRESENTATION BY STAFF. >> GOOD EVENING. COMMISSIONERS AGAIN SURE WE WILL LET ON PLANNING AND ZONING DIVISION I HAVE STAFF IS INCORPORATED THE CHANGES THAT COMMISSION MADE A LAST MEETING INTO THE DOCUMENT AND STAFF IS RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING APPROVAL FOR ADOPTION, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. >> MOVING ON TO BOTTLES APPLICANT ANY REBUTTALS. NO ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU STAFF AND THEY RESETTLE. STAFF HAS TO REBUTTAL. THANK YOU ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT TIME ALL RIGHT MOVING ON TO COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. >> YES, MAYOR I JUST HAVE 3 SMALL ONES I'M THE FIRST ONE HAS TO DO WITH PAGE, 13 THERE'S UP DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS CHURCH. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT CHART. THERE'S A FOOTNOTE TITLE NUMBER 8 PUBLIC INSTITUTIONAL USES AND CIVIC SPACES. BUT IN THE ACTUAL CHURCH THERE IS NO PLACEMENT OF THAT FOOTNOTE AND I'M CURIOUS WHERE IS THAT FOOTNOTE NUMBER 8 SUPPOSED TO >> SO >> I GUESS IT AND I I MAY NOT UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION FIRST PLEASE BEAR WITH ME ALL OF THE NOTES UNDERNEATH THEIR ONE THROUGH 8. ARE STACKED IN CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER AND THEY'RE NOT REFERENCE ANY WHERE SPECIFICALLY ON THE CHART THAT'S THE FORMAT WAS APPROVED AND WE JUST HAD NO MEMORY. >> OKAY, SO IF YOU LOOK AT FOR EXAMPLE. NO NUMBER 3 FLOOR AREA RATIO IN THE CHART. THERE IS A NUMBER 3 AFTER THE FLOOR AREA RATIO. WHEN YOU LOOK AT PERMITTED USES THERE'S A FOOTNOTE. DESIGNATED 1, 6, 7, AND THEN THAT DESIGNATION IS IN THE NOSE RELATING TO 1, 6, 7, SO I SEE A NOTE FOR NUMBER 8, BUT I DO NOT SEE A PLACEMENT OF NUMBER 8 IN THAT CHART. >> UNDERSTOOD I PERSONALLY WOULD IMAGINE STAFF'S POSITION TO IS THAT IT DOES NOT NEED TO BE INCORPORATED IN THAT MANNER. THERE IS NO CONFUSION HERE. I WOULD SAY IF YOU LOOK AT NO NUMBER 7 WORKS AS LAKES AND PONDS MAY BE USED FOR IRRIGATION AND OR STORAGE OF RECLAIMED WATER. THAT'S PUTIN PERMITTED USES BUT THAT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A DOMINANT USED ON THE SITE IF YOU HAVE A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. YOU HAVE A THE LAKE THAT SHE'S FIRST WATER. IT'S NOT A I LINCOLN PAWN THESE PROPERTY AND COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. SO I UNDERSTAND I JUST DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY CONFUSION OR ANY AIR GENERATED BY NOT HAVING 8 INCORPORATED INTO ANY OF THAT >> NORMALLY WHEN THERE'S A CHART. AND THEN THERE'S FOOTNOTE A FOOTNOTE HAS A DESIGNATION IN THE CHART IS TO WEAR THAT FOOTNOTE DISPLACED, AND THAT'S WHY WAS BRINGING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION STAFF. DID YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN ON THAT. WE'LL HAVE MISSION OR. >> AND LIKE WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE FOOTNOTE IF THERE'S NO PLACEMENT OF >> SO THE FOOTNOTE IS RELATED TO THE PUBLIC INSTITUTIONAL USES IN CIVIC SPACES THIS KNOW WOULD APPLY. >> TO THAT COLUMN. >> IT GIVES THE COMMISSION. >> BY CONSENSUS WE CAN SURELY ADD THAT THE NEW AFTER. >> THE CIVIC SPACES THAT DOESN'T FEEL IT'S NECESSARY BECAUSE IT DOES CALL IT OUT. >> NUMBER 8 WHERE IT'S A PICKLEBALL TOO SO IT IS TO PUT THE BALL TO PUBLIC INSTITUTIONAL USES. >> AND CIVIC SPACES. SO IT IS CLEAR. >> I JUST WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION YOU HAVE NOTES ONE THROUGH 7 AND THEY ARE SPECIFICALLY PLACED IN THE CHART 8 HE'S NOT THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO BRING A TEAR TO OF COURSE ON IF YOU ALSO LOOK AT NUMBER 8 THE NOTE. IT SAYS THE. MY CLASSES AND SECONDLY GETTING OLD. IT SAYS USE PROPERTY SHALL NOT BE REQUIRED TO HERE TO THIS SECTION. 3.8. VILLAGE MISCELLANEOUS PERFORMANCE STANDARDS AND 3.9 BILITY DESIGN STANDARDS AND YOU'LL BE LANDSCAPING PARKING IN SIGNAGE REGULATIONS. >> THE COMMISSION. THE COMMISSION GAVE DIRECTION TOO WAIVE THE PARKING TO BE COMPLETED AT THE MOSS STAGE AND THE WAY I'M READING THIS IS WE ARE WAIVING THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS AND THAT'S NOT WHAT WE DID WE SAID IT HAS TO BE CALCULATED AT NAS STAGE AND I HAVE A MOTION IF YOU NEED ME TO READ DIDN'T ELECT THE THIS. >> SO THE THE STAFF. STAFF CONDITION WAS FOR PARKING ADDED TO BE PROVIDED AT THE TIME OF NAS. WHICH IS DIFFERENT THEN EXPECT FLEET WHICH IS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT YOU'RE SAYING NOW. THE PARKING STANDARD. IT'S TOO. YOU HAVE THE STANDARDS THAT ARE DONE FROM THE ULDC AND OR FROM THE V P P IF THE VP HAS A STANDARD THAT STANDARD TRUMP'S THE ULDC IF DPP DOES NOT IT FALLS TO THE ULDC SO SOMETIMES THERE COULD BE A GRAY AREA WHERE THE PPP HAS. 40% OF WHAT WOULD BE COVERED IN THE PARKING THEY PICK OUT THOSE PARTICULAR ITEMS AND THEN AT THE FALSE THE ULDC STILL MY UNDERSTANDING OF STAFF'S CONDITION IN MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE VOTE WAS FIRST READING IS THAT THE PARKING STANDARDS AS THEY WERE PUT TOGETHER MOST OF THE DPP AND THEN THE ULDC FOR US HERE WE ARE WAIVING THOSE BUT AT THE TIME OF NAS WE HAVE TO SUBMIT DATA TO JUSTIFY. >> THE PROPOSED PARKING COUNT ON THE PROPERTY AND I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT, BUT THIS IS SAYING THAT WERE WAVING THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS. >> AND FORGETTING ABOUT THE REST OF THE REQUIREMENT THAT IT BE CALCULATED AT AND THEY YOU KNOW ME AND THAT'S A CONDITION WITH THE APPROVAL. SO THAT SURVIVES WITH THIS. >> THE CONDITION OF APPROVAL, IT WOULD SURVIVE THAT AND ALSO. IT'S IT WOULD THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO MEET THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS AS WE DISCUSS IT STATES THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO MEET WHAT THE CODE SAID AND ALSO BUT IT'S REVIEWED FOR THE TIME OF DEVELOPMENT IS WHEN WE WILL REVIEW THOSE PARKING CALCULATIONS AS WE STATED IN THIS CONDITION DOES GO. THIS WAS WHAT COMMISSION HAD ADOPTED THIS DOES CARRY THROUGH. BUT IT WOULD BE AT THE TIME OTHER THAN >> RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH WHAT YOU ARE SAYING HOWEVER, WHAT I READ IN THAT FOOTNOTE IS SAYING THAT WE ARE WAIVING PARKING REGULATIONS. IT DOESN'T MENTION THAT WE ARE WAVING IT WITH THE CAP YACHT OF THE MAP AND STAGE. >> WHEN THIS IS THE PPP. AND IT SAYS THEY WERE WAVING THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS. WHICH IS TRUE WE HOWEVER, WE ADDED A LITTLE EXTRA OF WE ARE WAIVING THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS AND THAT THEY MUST BE CALCULATED IT'S CHURCH. >> COMMISSIONER WITH ALL DUE I THINK YOU'VE LOST TRACK OF A FUNDAMENTAL. ASPECT OF INTERPRETING. >> STATUTES THIS IS A STATE STATUTE. CITY CODE LATES THROUGH THE ORDINANCE YOU YOU'RE REQUIRED TO FIRST READ. WHAT COULD OTHERWISE BE CONFLICTING LANGUAGE TO MAKE THEM MAKE SENSE TOGETHER. AND ENGINE IN YOUR CITY ATTORNEY SHIPPING RED CORRECT THIS IS WHAT WE LAWYERS ONE LAW SCHOOL. IF YOU'RE CAPABLE OF READING THE 2 PROVISIONS TOGETHER WHERE THEY CAN MAKE SENSE THEN THAT'S THE INTERPRETATION THAT CARRIES THE DAY. SO HERE CLEARLY YOU CAN READ. BOTH OF THESE BOTH OF THESE PROVISIONS IN A WAY THAT MAKES THEM MAKE SENSE. THERE'S A WAIVER BUT THE DATA HAS TO BE PROVIDED AT THE TIME >> SO THE WALL WOULD IS NOT STATED HERE IS WHAT I'M TRYING BUT THE LAW BUT THE LAW WOULD SAY THAT THE WAY YOU INTERPRET THAT. >> MAYBE MAYBE WE JUST HAVE TO AGREE TO DISAGREE ON THAT, BUT THE LAW I THINK PRETTY CLEARLY WOULD SAY THAT YOU CAN INTERPRET IT THAT WAY AND THAT EXACTLY WHAT WAS DECIDED. I GO BY WRITTEN WORDS, NOT INTERPRETATION. >> THE OTHER THING IS ON PAGE 47. IF YOU LOOK AT THE CHART 3.9. 0.9 I APOLOGIZE IT'S ON PAGE 47 PUBLIC INSTITUTIONAL USES THAT CIVIC SPACES THE MINIMUM LAND REQUIRED IS 10% WITH NO MASKS MOM. SO THE MINIMUM. LAND REQUIRED. WOULD BE 48 ACRES BECAUSE THERE'S 4480 ACRES 10% IS 48 ACRES BUT THIS PARCEL IS ONLY 27 ACRES. AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW. THAT IT COULD BE A SIMPLE MATH THERE. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION AND THEN WHEN YOU ADD UP THE REQUIREMENT. IT DOES NOT 100%. >> COMMISSIONER WOULD HAVE LOOKED THERE ARE A FEW OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE OUT THERE THERE IS A CHARTER SCHOOL WHICH MEETS THAT DEFINITION OF INSTITUTIONAL AS WELL AS THE UTILITY JUST 30. IT WOULD EXCEED THE MINIMUM OF THE 10% OF THE ACREAGE. WITH STAFF WAS DOING THE REVIEW WE HAVE RESEARCH THAT CALCULATED IT. SO IT WAS. SO THE 10% WAS ACTUALLY 306.4 3 ACRES WHICH IS ON THE FRONT PAGES AS WELL AS THE DEBT ADDING THE 27.70. 334 POINT TO 100% OF THAT APPROXIMATELY 33. 33.4 THE CHARTER SCHOOL IS 12 ACRES. THERE IS THE TILLIS SITE AND THEN WITH THE SMH THAT'S ROUGHLY 40 ACRES. >> UTILITY SITE DISTRICT VILLAGE SHOULD FOUND CALCULATED IT WITH THE CHARTER SCHOOL ITSELF. >> IT >> IT DOES IT SAY THAT 10% AND WHEN IT'S BUILT OUT. AT THIS TIME WANTED TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT OTHER PROJECTS AND I JUST WANT MAKE TO THE MATH ISN'T THERE AND IT WAS. MY UNDERSTANDING AT FIRST READING THAT THIS IS THE ONLY PUBLIC INSTITUTIONAL LAND USE IN THIS VILLAGE NOW I'M HERE SOME YES, THERE'S THANK YOU. YES, ABSOLUTELY. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK VICE MAYOR. >> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO THANK BOTH PARTIES FOR WORKING THROUGH THE DESIGN STANDARD I KNOW IT WAS A CHALLENGE AND SHOULD THAT WORK YOUR WAY THROUGH WE DO LOOK FORWARD TO HOSPITAL. OKAY COMMISSIONER LANGDON. >> YES I WON PYLON I NEVER HAD A DOUBT. I KNOW THAT THE PARTIES WOULD COME TOGETHER AND FIGURE IT OUT SO THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER AVERAGE TO DO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENT. >> NOW BASICALLY IS JUST THE OUTGOING OF IT I KNEW THAT THEY CAN GET THAT WORKED OUT RATHER THAN LEAVE ENDED UP FOR US TO THE SIDE TO MAKE A DECISION. I'M GLAD THEY WORKS SO LOOKING FORWARD THANK YOU MAYOR. >> YES, THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT DO WE CLOSING ARGUMENTS BY. STILL HAS NO CLOSING ARGUMENTS THANK YOU COMMISSIONER, THANK YOU WE HAVE CLOSING ARGUMENTS BY SHORT AND SWEET AS FAR WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME FIRST READING NOW SECOND READING RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU SO NOTHING FURTHER I WILL CLOSE PORTION OF THE. >> PUBLIC HEARING. AND REQUEST A MOTION MAKE. >> VICE MAYOR MOVE TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2, 0, 2, 4 DASH 2, 6, AS PERCENT BACK AT. >> ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY VICE MAYOR STOVES TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DES 26 AS PRESENTED AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY. >> COMMISSIONER LANGDON. VICE MAYOR. I AM A YES MAYOR ZS LANGDON SAY YES SICK DO. YES. COMMISSIONER AVERAGE. >> I MEAN YES. >> ALL RIGHT SO THAT PASSES 5 TO 0. THANK YOU. YOU YOU NOT I REALLY THIS GOING TO RIGHT. >> BY >> OK MOVING TO ITEM. >> ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 13. >> CITY CLERK AND YOU READ THIS BY TITLE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 13 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY IN NORTH PORT FLORIDA AMENDING UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT KILLING ALL CHAPTERS EXCEPT CHEKATT 29 SIGN REGULATIONS CREATING NEW CHAPTER ONE GENERAL PROVISIONS CREATING A NEW CHAPTER TO DEVELOPMENT REVIEW, CREATING A NEW CHAPTER 3 ZONING CREATING A NEW CHAPTER FOR SITE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS CREATING A NEW CHAPTER 6 NATURAL RESOURCES, CREATING A APPENDIX THAT INCLUDES DEFINITIONS AND TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS PROVIDING FOR COMPLEX PROVIDING SEVERABILITY PROVIDING FOR TRANSMITTAL OF DOCUMENTS PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION OF BUYING EFFECTIVE DATE. >> I THANK YOU CITY MANAGER THIS IS YOUR ITEM. >> THANK ON THIS ORDINANCE IS AMENDING THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE KILLING ALL CHAPTERS EXCEPT NUMBER 29. YES TONIGHT ON SECOND READING OF THE CITY COMMISSION APPROVED ORDINANCE NUMBER 4 DASH 13. THANK YOU. >> DO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION OR NOT. >> THERE ARE PRESENTATIONS FOR THE SOUTH THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO QUESTIONS BY. COMMISSIONERS OR DISCUSSION COMMENTS AND. WE'LL START WITH 5 ROUNDS JUST SO WE CAN GET EVERYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO SAY SOMETHING PERSONAL. HAVE OTHER GROUND AGAINST A SARI. COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. >> YEAH, IF SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS TO GO FIRST I CAN WAIT TILL THE END I HAVE QUESTIONS. >> ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS COMMISSIONER AVERAGE DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >> NO MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL TAKEN AWAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH MAYOR. SO MY FIRST QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH WHEN I WENT BACK TO MAKE SURE WORDING FOR THAT VACANT. PROPERTY SENSE WAS ACCURATE. AND MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS CAPTURED CORRECTLY AND I APPRECIATE WHAT STAFF PUT IN THERE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT HOWEVER THEN WENT RED REST OF THE THINGS BECAUSE MY HUSBAND AND I ARE THINKING ABOUT PUTTING A FENCE ON HER PROPERTY. AND LEARNED THAT THERE'S NO PERMIT. AND NO SURVEY REQUIRED ANYMORE. AND I'M SHERRI A SENSE TOO. >> IS THAT A GOOD >> THE OTHER CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS WHEN I CONTINUED TO READ IT. IF YOU LOOK PAGE ONE 19 FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT WANT TO FOLLOW ALONG. IT SAYS THAT A FENCE OR WALL MAY BE CONSTRUCTED PROPERTY WHY. SO I IMMEDIATELY HAD DEJA TO THE DOLLAR GENERAL WHEN THEY. WHEN THE COVID ALLOWED THE FENCE TO BE PLACED ON THE PROPERTY LINE. AND REALIZE THIS IS A DISASTER WAITING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE OF THE INCOMPATIBLE LAND USES WHAT'S THE POINT BUFFERING IF THERE'S A FENCE OR WALL ON A PROPERTY LINE THAT IS REQUIRED TO HAVE X AMOUNT OF FEET OF BUFFERING. THE OTHER PART IS. IF IT'S ON THE PROPERTY LINE. AND I HAVE IN MY BACKYARD, I HAVE A DRAINAGE DITCH. NORMALLY THE CURRENT CODE HAS A 20 FOOT EASEMENT 22 SHAPE TO BE ABLE TO A FENCE UP. IT'S PUT IT ON THE PROPERTY LINE. NOT ONLY DOES THAT APPLY TO MY BACKYARD. BECAUSE THE COLD HAS NO DIFFERENTIATION ABOUT BACKYARD FRONT YARD OR SIDE YARD LOCATION. IT CLEARLY SAYS PROPERTY. I CAN PUT THE FENCE. ALL THE WAY SNAPPED UP. TO THE FRONT YARD OF MY PROPERTY. AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO JUST BE A CHAIN LINK FENCE IT COULD BE A FENCE MADE OF. WHAT WHAT WHAT IS THE. MASON OR YOUR OUR IRON OR METAL OR AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT. I HAVE I HAVE SERIOUS RESERVATIONS ABOUT ALLOWING A FENCE OR WALL. THE PROPERTY LINE. I COULD BASICALLY SQUARE OFF MY PROPERTY. AND NOBODY WILL BE ABLE STOP THE WAY THAT THIS CODE IS WRITTEN. OKAY RIGHT UP TO WHERE THAT POLLS ARE THAT'S MY PROPERTY LINE. RIGHT ALL THE WAY TO THE BACK FOR MY SURVEY ALLOWS OFFENSE TO GO ALONG THE DRAINAGE DITCH AND GOD FORBID THESE INCOMPATIBLE LAND USES THAT WE. 10 YEARS AGO. DESPERATELY WITH THE COMMISSION AND STAFF AT THAT TIME TO ENSURE THAT THE INCOMPATIBLE LAND USES HAD BUFFERING INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT A WALL. WE SHOULD KNOW THAT YOU WANT SOMEONE I WAS STOP THE CLOCK TO >> MAGIC WE HAVE SOMEBODY DRESSED THAT AND CLARIFY THAT. >> ALL RIGHT ON DIRECTOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. THERE WERE SEVERAL CONCERNS. COMMUNICATED I HOPE I DIE AND ACROSS THE MALL DESPITE A ABSENT SOME QUESTIONS. THE CURRENT. REGULATIONS. US NOT TO ALLOW I SPOKE UP SAYS IN THE EASEMENTS. CLEARLY PROMISE OF ALL AND PERMIT THAT THAT SUMMIT >> AND ALL COMMUNICATION REGARDING THE REGULATIONS. CLEARLY COMMUNICATE TO THE PROPERTY OWNER THAT ANYTHING AND THEY PLACE IN THE CITY EASEMENT IS PLACED AT THEIR REST. AND THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO REMOVE THAT IN ORDER ACCESS THEIR TIME THE CITY MAY DO SO AND IS NOT REQUIRED TO REPLACE. >> AS FAR AS ALLOWING TO THE PROPERTY LINE. OUR REGULATIONS STILL ALLOW YOU TO PUT YOUR PANTS ON YOUR PROPERTY LOT. WE DO NOT REQUIRE A SURVEY RIGHT OFFENSE IS PLACED THE ON ONE'S PROPERTY ON COMES TO CIVIL MATTER BETWEEN REGARDING THE. REQUIREMENTS OR COMMENTING UNDER THE CURRENT REDS AND THE ELIMINATION. THE CITY STAFF SPENDS AN INORDINATE AMOUNT TIME ALSO ALL WE DO NOT VERIFY THE PLACEMENT OF THE UN SAYS WITH IN SOMEONE'S PROPERTY HIGH AGAIN THAT PROPERTY OWNER'S RESPONSIBILITY. THE CIVIL MATTER WE VERIFIED THAT THEY COMPLY WITH THE DESIGN REQUIREMENTS. HI LOCATION. AND STUFF. >> THAT IS ALL. >> AND WE DO UNDER THE CURRENT PERMANENT. OUR INTENT IS TO ELIMINATE THAT PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS SO THAT STAFF CAN SPEND ON ON MORE SUBSTANTIAL REVIEW ISSUES RATHER THAN FENCES. WE HAVE INFORMATION PLIERS AVAILABLE PEOPLE CONTACT FOR RACE NOT ALLOWED. NOW SOMEONE DOES PLAY SOME THOUGHTS THAT DOES NOT COMPLY. >> WITH >> REQUIREMENTS THEY COULD BE SUBJECT TO CODE ENFORCEMENT. WE JUST FEEL. TIME IS BETTER INVESTED AND PROCESSING EYE LEVEL PERMITS AS OPPOSED TO FRANCIS AS FAR AS COMPATIBLE LAND USE IS A SHARE RIGHT IT IS CHAPTER 4 OF THE DRAFT UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT INCORPORATES BUFFER REQUIREMENTS BETWEEN COMPATIBLE LAND USES. PER CHAPTER WON THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WHERE PROVISIONS IN THE CODE SLEPT MOST STRINGENT PREVAIL, SO FENCES IN GENERAL, YES ARE IN CHAPTER THAT SITS BETWEEN INCOMPATIBLE USES ARE IN CHAPTER 4 THE BUFFERING SECTION WHICH HAS NOT WHICH REQUIRE THE LANDSCAPE AND BE PLACED ON THE OUTSIDE FOR WALL A LEMONADE AND THE ABILITY TO PLACE YOUR ALL ALRIGHT COMMERCIAL ADJACENT TO SINGLE ON THE PARKING LOT. I THINK I COVERED ALL OF THOSE AND THIS >> YES GOING. >> SO IN THE EXISTING CODE OFFENSE IS NOT ALLOWED MORE LESS THAN IT DID. >> IT DEPENDS ON HOW YOU WANT TO READ IT FENCE LOCATIONS MORE THAN 20 FEET FROM THE BODY OF WATER. THAT'S IN THE EXISTING CODE. AND AND IN THE CURRENT PROPOSED PO THERE'S NOTHING STATING THAT THE CITY CAN REMOVE ANYTHING IN THE EASEMENT IT'S NOT IN THE CODE. SO IF YOU TRY TO REMOVE MY FENCE. >> NOT IN THE DROPPED CODED YES UNDER ENCROACH CUTS. THERE ARE STATEMENTS AND THE AND THE DRAFT THAT DO INDICATE THAT ANYTHING PLACED IN THESE MINUTES, HOW THE PROPERTY ON CRUST THE WATERFRONT SETBACK DIFFERENT THAN IT IS MEANT SETBACK AS IT WERE. ART OR NOT ALLOWING THAT'S EASEMENT WE'VE GOT A LOT OF DRAINAGE. WANT MAKE MAINTENANCE EASEMENT ALONG THAT THEY ARE ALL WATERFRONT PROPERTIES. SO THAT PEOPLE CAN PLACE THEIR PRIDE ON THEIR PROPERTY LINE AND THE REAR. WE'RE FINE AND MORE AND MORE THAT'S A MULTIFAMILY PROPERTY OWNERS ARE EXTREMELY FRUSTRATED BECAUSE SAYING I WANT. 8520 FOOT. SO ALL OF THEIR BACKYARD THAT THEY CAN'T USE. AND THAT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE A WATERFRONT LAW. THEY'RE GIVEN LAST RITES TO FENCING THEY ARE WATERFRONT NEIGHBORHOODS. THAT'S WHY THE CODE IS DRAFTED OF THIS. >> SHE HAD THE CONVERSATION, THANK YOU I JUST. DON'T HAVE TO AGREE WITH THAT, BUT THAT'S A THIS IS AN INCENTIVES. IF YOU LOOK AT IT. SO PAGE ONE 11. BACK TO THE FENCING AND WHILE THING DURING ONE OF THE PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS, STAFF YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO ADD THE DIAGRAM TO THE CODE AND THAT NEVER GOT ADDED. AND I WAS JUST CURIOUS TO NEW DIRECTION TO AT THAT. I KNOW MISS LORY A FRUSTRATING TO KNOW >> THE FIRST RATING THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT ADDING DIAGRAMS. THE DIAGRAM THAT IS IN THE CURRENT CODE A LOT OF CLEANING UP THAT IS GOING TO TAKE TIME. WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS THAT. WELL BE BEING BROUGHT FORWARD TO THE THEN THAT'S INCLUDING INCORPORATING THE NEW DIAGRAM FOR THE OFFICE. A NEW DIAGRAM FOR THE DOCKS. IT'S TAKE TIME AND EFFORT AND SOMETIMES INVESTMENT DOLLARS TO HAVE. AND ALICE TRAITOR PROVIDE FOR US SO WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THE CODE ADOPTED PLACE IN THE DOT. AND WE'LL BRING BACK THE DIAGRAMS THAT. AND DANCE. REGULATIONS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE MORE OF THIS INITIALLY OR >> I'M GOING TO THE BONE A SECTION OF THE CODE. BONUS INCENTIVES. I UNDERSTAND THAT THESE ARE STACKABLE AND IT'S ALREADY IT'S. THEY HAVE A PERMITTED RIGHT AND THEN IF YOU THEY WANT BONUSES AND INCENTIVES THOSE ARE STACKABLE. AND I'M CURIOUS IF DENSITY CAN STACK FOR EACH DEVELOPMENT TYPE. FOR EXAMPLE, THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING HAS 4 DIFFERENT EYES, THERE'S AN AGE RESTRICTION THAT THEY MIGHT QUALIFY FOR THIS INCENTIVE. THEY MIGHT PUT IN A COMMUNITY GARDEN AND AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATION. NOT TOO SURE ABOUT THIS HURRICANE RESISTANT INSTRUCTION BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT REQUIRED BY STATE LAW AND FLORIDA BUILDING CODE BUT ANYWAYS AND THEN MAYBE ASSEMBLY THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO STACK DENSITY ON TOP OF WHATEVER IS ALREADY ALLOWED BY RIGHT UP TO ABOUT MORE THAN 40 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE AND I'M CURIOUS IF THAT IS. WE INTENDED THIS TO BE BECAUSE THEY'RE ALLOWED 30 DWELLING UNITS BY RIGHT AND THEN THEY HAVE ALL THESE BONUSES AND INCENTIVES THAT CAN BE STACKED THAT MAKES IT 70 DWELLING UNITS. >> THE BUILDING HIGH INCENTIVES DO NOT TALKING ABOUT BUILDING HEIGHT I WAS TALKING ABOUT DENSITY THE BUILDING HEIGHT INCENTIVES DO NOT STOP THERE ARE OTHER REGULATIONS INCLUDING MINIMUM OPEN SPACE. STORM WATER REQUIREMENTS PARKING REQUIREMENTS AT OFFERS THAT ARE NATURALLY GOING HAVE THAT ALONG WITH THE BELTON HIGH. >> THE ACTUAL AMOUNT OF A BONUS THAT IS ACHIEVABLE ON ANY PARTICULAR SITE. IT'S UNLIKELY THAT 70 UNITS PER ACRE WILL. YOU REACHED. UNDER AN INCENTIVE. PACKAGE WITH ALL OF THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS THAT BEAT OPERATE IT INTO THE DESIGN ALONG WITH THE BUILDING HEIGHT LIMITATIONS. PROBABLY NOT LIKE >> IT IS IT POSSIBLE. THEY ARE STACKABLE TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY CONSTRUCT ON THE SIDE. >> WHILE MEETING ALL OF OTHER APPLICABLE REGULATIONS THAT APPLY UP >> AND MAYOR BEFORE LEADING TO A FINAL ADOPTION MOTION. I WILL. REQUEST A FEW DIFFERENT EMOTIONS. THERE'S BEEN A MEMO CIRCULATING AND THANK YOU STAFF FOR SENDING US THAT MEMO ABOUT THE TREES ON THE FRONT YARD. I KNOW WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT DURING FIRST READING BUT IN LIGHT OF WHAT STAFF IN THAT MEMO THAT THEY SENT TO US BASED ON. E-MAILS THAT HE HAD RECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC AND SOME SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS. THE INTENT TO THAT STAFF IS SAYING IN DOES NOT MATCH THE WORDS IN THE DOCUMENT AND I HAD I'M KIND OF GIVEN STAFF A HEADS UP THAT I I WOULD BE BRINGING THIS UP AGAIN AND HOPEFULLY THAT YOU GUYS WOULD HAVE SOME DRAFT DRAFT LANGUAGE READY WORK FOR TO CAPTURE WHAT YOUR INTENT WAS IN THE ACTUAL CODE AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE ABLE TO DO THAT OR IF YOU WOULD LIKE. TO DISCUSS FURTHER. >> I TAKE VIEW FROM THE SCREEN UP PLEASE. WE DID NOT DRAFT ANY NEW LANGUAGE UNDER CHAPTER 4 ARTICLE 3 SECTION 4.3 POINTS WON WHICH THE ARTICLE IN WHICH THE WANTED FAMILY DWELLING UNIT LANDSCAPING REGULATIONS ARE INCORPORATED. >> THERE ARE EXEMPTIONS. 4. >> EXPANSION OF EXISTING WANTED TO FAMILY DWELLINGS AND EXPANSION OF EXISTING MULTI-FAMILY. BY NO MORE THAN. 24.9% INCREASE IN GRIP OR GROSS FLOOR AREA WILL NOT >> SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THIS ARTICLE WERE CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THE ADDITION OF LANGUAGE HERE SO MAKE IT EXPLICIT THAT EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE NOT SUBJECT TO REQUIREMENT. WE THINK IT'S CLEAR THAT YOU KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT IN YOUR EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND ITS NOT APPLICABLE THAT. REASON THAT IF YOU HAVE AN MUCH PEOPLE LEAVE HOME AND APPLY TO YOU. AGAIN ALL OF PROVISIONS OF CHAPTER FOR DEVELOPMENTS AND YOU ALRIGHT PREEXISTING DEVELOP PROPERTY. THE START-UP LIKE TO YOU UNLESS UNTIL YOU COME CITY ASKING FOR A MODIFICATION TO YOUR SITE. >> SO MAYOR I'LL BE ASKING FOR A COUPLE OF MOTIONS TO INCORPORATE IN THE CODE WHAT THE STAFF SAID IN NEAR THE MOUNT AND FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE WATCHING IN SITTING HERE, BUT THAT MAY NOT BE PRIVY TO WHAT THAT MEMO IS IS THAT STAFF WAS SAYING THAT THE PROVISIONS OF THIS WHAT'S UP ON THE SCREEN DO NOT APPLY TO EXISTING HOMES EXISTING HOMES WILL NOT BE REQUIRED TO HAVE TREES OR SHRUBS THE PROVISION ONLY APPLIES TO NEW HOMES BUILT AFTER JULY 1ST. IT GOES ON FURTHER TO SAY THE CITY WILL NEVER REQUIRE SOMEONE TO PLANT TREES OR SHRUBS OVER SEPTIC SYSTEM OR ANYWHERE THAT WOULD COMPROMISE THE SO THOSE ARE THE MOTIONS I'M GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR BASED ON MEMO THE MOUNT. >> ONE OF THE LAST THINGS THAT I'M GOING TO TRY TO DO. WAY BACK IN NOVEMBER OF 2022 WE HAD A WORKSHOP THAT TALKED ABOUT GENERAL PROVISIONS AND I WAS REMISS IN NOT BRINGING THIS UP LAST READING. THERE WAS A PROVISION IN RELATION TO THE COMP PLAN THAT SAID AND SHARON'S TO PRESCRIBE STANDARDS BY THE LAND DEVELOPER OF THOSE REQUIRED IMPROVEMENTS SHOULD NOT BECOME A CHARGE ON THIS CITIZENS AND TAXPAYERS EXISTING AREAS. THIS WAS REMOVED AT FIRST READING I BELIEVE THAT WAS ALSO REMOVED AT THE DRAFT I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT AND I REALLY THINK THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT PROVISION. I DON'T KNOW WHY IT WAS REMOVED BETWEEN NOVEMBER OF 20 TO CAUSE WE NEVER DISCUSSED UNTIL THE I KNOW DRAFT BUT I REALLY THINK IT NEEDS TO BE BACK IN THERE BECAUSE IT STATES EXPLICITLY SAYING THAT THE EXISTING TAXPAYERS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS AND IMPROVEMENTS SO AGAIN MAYOR I WILL BE ASKING FOR MOTION ON THAT ONE. THE LAST MOTION I WILL MAKE. ♪ ♪ IT'S A FINAL PLEA TO MY COMMISSIONERS. TO NOTIFY PROPERTY OWNERS THAT'S OUR PROPERTY IS BEING REZONED I HAD PHONE CALL TODAY FROM THE CITIZEN SO UPSET BECAUSE THEY JUST FOUND OUT THAT THEY CANNOT BUILD A HOUSE ON THEIR PROPERTY IF THIS REZONING GOES THROUGH. IS. UNCONSCIONABLE. >> WE HAD A WE HAD. >> REZONE JUST EARLIER TODAY IN PARK THAT DEVELOPER WAS REQUIRED TO NOTIFY THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 1300 FEET OF THAT PROPERTY THAT DEVELOPED WAS REQUIRED TO HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING. MY REQUEST IS NOT TO NOTIFY. THE PROPERTIES WITHIN 1300 FEET. SO TOO WITH LEAST NOTIFY THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE BEING AFFECTED. SO AGAIN I WILL BE SEEKING ANOTHER TOP OPTION. OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE ANOTHER MOTION TO REQUIRE THIS AND IF WE HAVE TO PUSH OUT SECOND READING TO A 3RD READING AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO. I HAVE PLENTY THAT I CAN TALK ABOUT PLENTY MORE REQUESTS THAT I REALLY THINK NEED TO BE CAPTURED IN THIS CODE. BUT I PROMISED MYSELF I WOULD STICK TO 5. AND THEN AT THE END I WILL HAVE COMMENTS AND I WILL BE REQUESTING TO MAKE A FEW MOTIONS MAYOR. >> OKAY. COMMISSIONER RICHARD YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. ♪ ♪ >> NO MA'AM. >> OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. GRAHAM. >> SECTION 1006.3 ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION FUND DOES NOT INCLUDE THIS INCLUDE THE SALARY FOR THE NEWLY HIRED ENVIRONMENTAL EMPLOYEES IN NORTH PORT IF NOT PROPOSE THAT THE TREE FUND CAN BE USED TO COVER THEIR SALARIES. >> AND HER HAVE FOLLOWED ROLE IN ALL OF AND JANICE >> EVENING AGAIN. THIS SO MUCH I HAVE BEEN REVIEWING THIS YOU WILL SEETHING US NOW I HAVE WORKED WITH THE CITY. ALMOST 8, 9, YEARS. SPECIFICALLY ENDANGERED AND THREATENED SPECIES THAT I HAVE SEEN THAT IN THIS. A LOT OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I WE BOTH AGREED UPON I'M NOT THERE. THEY'RE MISSING. >> AS FAR AS THE. >> ULDC I SEE THAT A LOT OF. THE AUTHORITY AND DECISION-MAKING. IS GOING TOWARDS. AND HANDLED BY ADMINISTRATION. NOT COMING BEFORE THE COMMISSION. WHAT'S UP WITH THAT. WHY ISN'T COMING BEFORE THE COMMISSION A LOT OF THESE DEVELOPMENT AND WE JEWS AND IT'S LIKE WE'RE THE CHECKS AND BALANCES ITS STAFF RUNNING. THE CITY AND I MEAN NO DISRESPECT TO ANYBODY ON STAFF BECAUSE I ALMOST KNOW ALL OF YOU AND AND I RESPECT ALL OF YOU. THIS IS A GENERAL STATEMENT THAT IS JUST NOT RIGHT. LEGISLATIVE BODY. THE COMMISSION RUNS THE CITY. AND YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE TO SAY SO THAT STAFF MAKING UP AND ALL THE SUDDEN WE HAVE NO WAY AND NO RECOURSE EXCEPT TO JUST SAY OH WELL, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THINGS ANYMORE BECAUSE NOW THEY'RE NOT COMING BEFORE THE COMMISSION. SO I'M PRETTY OUTRAGED ABOUT THAT. AS FOLLOWS THE ULDC ADMINISTRATOR IN THE LAND. MEAN NO DISRESPECT. YOU DON'T HAVE THE EXPERTISE AND ARCHAEOLOGICAL SIGNIFICANT FINDINGS AND THE DECISION MAKING WITH SOME OF THOSE HISTORIC FINDINGS AND WHAT I'M SEEING YEAR. YOU GET THE SO YOU CAN DETERMINE THAT THE SCHOOL IS HISTORIC. ALL LOGIC LEE SIGNIFICANT. WELL THAT'S WHAT IT'S THAT'S WHAT'S IN THERE. >> ANOTHER THING IS THE LITTLE SALT SPRING, YOU HAVE A UP TO 6. THAT THE ABUSES. SPECIAL EXCEPTION. WHAT IS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION FOR A LITTLE SALT SPRINGS, SHOULD BE NO SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS. EDITION THING BUT THE WARM MINERAL SPRINGS, THE ADMINISTRATOR HAS THE POWER ASSESSING SIGNIFICANT AGAINST FINES AND NOTIFICATIONS SHOULD BE IMMEDIATE AND WORK OR WHAT SHOULD CEASE IMMEDIATELY. >> THAT SHOULD BE A TWO-WAY 2 DAY WAITING PERIOD. >> SO WE NEED A THE SCHOOL A LOCK UP THE AL JUST ON STAFF WHERE WE NEED TO CONFER WITH THE COUNTY'S ARCHAEOLOGISTS AND SOME OF THE SIGNIFICANT FINDINGS, YOU DON'T HAVE THAT EXPERTISE ON SORRY. FAR AS THE GOPHER TORTOISE IS THE WORD HARM ALSO NEEDS TO BE INCORPORATED INTO ITS NOT JUST PROTECTION OF THE IT WAS THE GOPHER TORTOISE IT'S ALSO ACHES. >> FLORIDA SCRUB GO ON AND ON 0 BC IT'S IT'S CRAZY. >> THANK YOU MISS ROBIN. WE HAVE OTHER. >> ITS ROLE ALL OF THE YEAR AND THEN JANICE WHAT WORKED. >> COMMISSIONERS THANK YOU APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TALK LES MISERABLES OVER. I LOVE THAT THE 2 WENT THROUGH WHAT PERRY AND THEY HAVE OF OUR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AND I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOU TO CAREFULLY CONSIDER. THE POINT HURT OF THE ONES THAT DO YOU MAKE THAT THEY FOR YOU'D UP. NEW ULDC. GO BACK TO ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT THAT YOU HEARD EARLIER WHICH WAS NOT TO CHANGE THE DEFINITION OF DENSITY. TRADITIONALLY HAS BEEN A NUMBER OF UNITS PER ACRE. WITH ULDC SECTION 3, 3, WHEN THIS ALLOWED THE DENSITY BECAUSE UNTREATED FROM A LARGE PARCEL OF WHAT IS DIVIDED INTO SMALLER PARCELS WITHOUT LIMITATION. THIS HAS WIDESPREAD IMPLICATIONS NOT VERY QUICK. BUT A WEAPON TIRES, IT. WHAT NEW A DEFINITION IS CODIFIED IN THE ULDC ARGUABLY IT BECOMES ENTIRE MONTH FOR EVERY DEVELOP AND SAY PROBABLY CAN'T TAKE AWAY FROM THAT. IT'S AN SO WITH THAT WHAT ARE SOME OF THE IMPLICATIONS IF IN AREA IS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHICH IS MY NEIGHBORHOOD. DO NEW DENSITY CALCULATION TO NEW DENSITY CALCULATION TO PUT EXTREMELY HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENTS NEXT A SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES IN VIOLATION. THE 4 POINT OH DENSITY LIMITATION UNDER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHICH YOU HAVE A PRO. EITHER WAY THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT VERY DEVELOPER IS TRYING TO DO A PARCEL K. JUSTIFY BUILDING A 150 CONDOS IN FOR STORY BUILDINGS ON THE PARCEL THE DENSITY WAS CALCULATED USING ENTIRE 391 ACRES WHICH OF WHICH INCLUDES. GOLF COURSE LAND WE'RE PART OF THE K IS LOCATED. THE DENSITY FOR THE PROJECT HAS IT TURNED OUT TO BE A 15.3 5, 3, 8, UNITS PER ACRE IT SAID A 4.0. THIS PROJECT IS CURRENTLY UNDER APPEAL BY OUR H.O.A. FOR THIS REASON AND FOR OTHER REASONS. THE SAME 291 ACRES INCLUDES 15 HOLES OF GOLF. OWNED AARON CREEK GOLF COUNTRY CUP. YOU IS A NEW ULDC DENSITY TO BE USED JUSTIFY CONVERTING ANY GOLF COURSE LAND TO BUILD HOUSING UNITS. AND THEY LET OUR ATTORNEY ADDRESS SOME OF POINT. COMMISSIONERS AND IS JANICE WILBUR NORTH PORT FLORIDA. WELL HERE WE GO AGAIN. >> HOMEOWNERS ON PRICE BOULEVARD BETWEEN SUMTER AND TOLEDO BLADE. BUT NOW THE HOMEOWNERS BEHIND PRICE BOULEVARD ARE NOW IN JEOPARDY AS WELL. EVERY TIME WE HAVE A NEW CITY MANAGER. AND 3 NEW MEMBERS ON THE COMMISSION. THINGS BEGIN TO CHANGE. THINK THEY ALWAYS HAVE A BETTER IDEA. UNFORTUNATELY. THIS THEY WANT TO CHANGE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TO COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. WHY THE RESIDENCE PRICE BOULEVARD. BETWEEN SUMTER AND TOLEDO BLADE. ALWAYS PICKED THIS ISN'T ESTABLISHED AREA. YET THIS AREA'S ALWAYS A MAIN TARGET. IT'S NOT THE WIDENING PRICE BOULEVARD THAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT NOW. THIS IS THE CHANGING A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TO COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. THIS IS OUR CONCERN. IT'S QUITE OBVIOUS. BUT THESE 4 BOARD MEMBERS AND THE CITY MANAGER COULD CARE LESS ABOUT HOMEOWNERS THAT THIS AFFECTED BY THIS. BECAUSE IT DOESN'T AFFECT THEIR HOME. AND IT DOESN'T COME. IN FACT OR COULD EFFECT. THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WELL REALLY DON'T THEY LIKE HOW MANY HOMES WOULD BE AFFECTED ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOLEDO BLADE. HOW MANY AREAS ARE OPEN. AND ESPECIALLY. HAVE I REACHED OUT TO COMMISSIONERS. MISTER AND MISS WHITE. REGARDING THIS CHANGE. MISTER EMERY DIDN'T RETURN MY CALL AND HE SAID TO ME DON'T WORRY. LOOK HOW MANY YEARS IT TOOK TO WIDEN PRICE. WILL NOT HAPPEN. WELL MISTER EMERGE. WELL CALL FAST THIS COMMISSION HAS HAS MOVED TO PUNISH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AGAIN. ARE YOU VOTING FOR THIS CHANGE. I PRAY NOT THIS WHITE. YOU NEVER RETURNED MY CALL. AS THAT CALL AND I EXPLAINED WHY I WAS CALLING YOU. DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT VOTED FOR YOU TO BE A COMMISSIONER YOU ASKED FOR OUR BOAT. NOW WE ARE ASKING FOR YOUR VOTE. PLEASE DO NOT CHANGE RESIDENTIAL. 2 COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH THE HOMEOWNERS. INSURANCE AND TAXES GOING FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL. DID THINK ABOUT THIS. NO BECAUSE IT DIDN'T AFFECT YOU OR DOESN'T AFFECT YOU. WELL REMEMBER WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND. A FORMER COMMISSIONER MISTER BLITZER WAS ALL FOR THE DOLLAR GENERAL. VOTED AGAINST US. BUT NOW MISTER BLITZER WHO LIVED SABAL TRACE GOLF COMMUNITY. >> COMMUNITY WAS HAPPENING WASN'T TALKING AND HAVING HIS OWN PRIVACY. HE HAS NO A PRIVATE SOMETHING THAT THANK YOU. MINUTES IS WANT TO SAY YES. I CERTAINLY HOPE SO. >> THOMAS CAKE. AND AND CHUCK ENGLISH. >> THOMAS GERMAN. I LIVE IN CITY OF PORT. RIGHT BEHIND THE DOLLAR GENERAL. SO I'VE BEEN DOWN THIS ROAD BEFORE I KNOW A LITTLE WHAT ABOUT. IT SEEMS LIKE IT. EVERY TIME THE BOARD GET THE BALL GOT THERE, BUT. THEY WANT TO CHANGE THINGS AND NOT FAVOR OF THE PEOPLE PUT YOU THERE. I'M NOT GOING TO IT. I DON'T YOU WANT TO VOTE YOU VOTE FOR THAT CHANGE INCLUDING THE CITY MANAGER AS I KNOW, HE'S GOT GO RIGHT BEHIND IT. YOUR PEOPLE IF YOU WANT YOUR JOB. AGAINST IT. BUT TELLING YOU RIGHT CAMPAIGN AGAINST AS HARD ANYTHING. IF YOU VOTE FOR WE HAVE SOMETHING ELSE RIGHT. >> WELL WHEN IT WAS GREAT 5286 PLAYED INSIDE HERE IN CREEK. SO TO READ THIS TO YOU BUT I WANT MAKE SURE I GET CORRECTED SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING GET RIPPED A RED BUT OFTEN YOU FOUND YOURSELF IN CONVERSATION. >> SOMEONE HAD SAID SOMETHING ELSE WITH I WORRY ABOUT KIDS AND GRANDCHILDREN. IF WE SPECIALLY YOU'RE THE COMMISSIONERS, A PRESERVING NORTH PORT KEEPING ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY FOR CHILDREN AND FAMILIES HOW CAN WE KEEP SELLING OUT TO DEVELOPERS TO TAKE AWAY. ALL OF THE GREEN SPACE AVAILABLE AND FILL IT WITH A CONCRETE METAL VERY SIMILAR SABAL TRACE. I HAVE THAT THE BIG IT'S ONE STILL A SCRUB JAYS AND THE COMMISSIONERS ALLOWED THE DEVELOPER TO CLOSE SANCTUARY THAT THE TREES AND THE PLANTS AND HERE IN CREEK CLEAN THE YEAR AND PROVIDE SHELTER FOR NUMEROUS ANIMALS WELL AS ENJOYMENT FOR ITS RESIDENTS. THE LAND. THE GOLF COURSE IN HERE CREATE PROVIDES ENTERTAINMENT NOT ONLY ARE CREEK RESIDENTS. BUT FOR MANY A NORTH PORT RESIDENTS AND VISITORS. IT ALSO IS A OF EMPLOYMENT FOR MANY OF OUR RESIDENTS. ALLOWING MORE BUILDING ON THE GOLF COURSE IN CREEK PROPERTY. JUST TAKES WAY SO MANY AVAILABLE RESOURCES. DO THE RIGHT THING FOR TODAY AND FOR THE FUTURE DON'T SO TO THE DEVELOPER AND SHORT CHANGE. YOUR RESIDENCE. THE VOICE OF THE CITIZENS. THAT'S WHY WE ELECTED YOU. >> NOW I'D LIKE TO TRY ONE EVERYTHING OK IF YOU DON'T ALL THIS IS ABOUT THE TIME YOU NEED TO BREAK ANY WAY TO SIT BACK IN YOUR CHAIR CLOSE YOUR EYES THINK ABOUT ONE MOST IMPORTANT. TRANSACTION THAT YOU TOOK PART. I IT WAS IT WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT YOU ARE **** HAPPY ABOUT IT YOU COULDN'T WAIT TO GET IT, OKAY. COULD BE YOU TIRED I'M LIKE MY ARE COULD BEEN SOMETHING ELSE ALL RIGHT. BUT YOU'VE GOT THAT OKAY. IT'S SO HAPPY YOU WERE THESE ARE THE RULES THIS IS WHAT IT WILL COST. AND YOU WANT IT. NOW OPEN UP YOUR EYES FIND OUT THE DEVELOPER LIFE. >> BEFORE >> YOU START THE CLOCK TO I THINK FIREPLACE FOR ADEQUATE TIME IS TONIGHT. YES, EVERYBODY GETS I'M GLAD YOU ANSWERED CONCERNS THERE ABOUT THE TEENS. EMPLOYEES HAVE OPEN EARS AND MINDS ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THIS IS REALLY REALLY IMPORTANT THE PEOPLE EFFECTS. THIS WOULD DELETE FROM YOUR DEFINITIONS. THE DEFINITION OF CITY AND WITH ROSE WHICH SAYS TODAY THAT WHEN YOU'RE CALCULATING DENSITY IT'S BASED ON THE NUMBER OF UNITS IN THE ACRE IN THE PARCEL. FROM FROM THE DEFINITIONS. INSTEAD YOU HAVE SOMETHING THE STAFF'S POINTED TO THAT SAYS YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER PARCEL. AND THEY'VE ADDED SOMETHING TO SAY YOU TAKE THE WHOLE AREA. IN THE HERE CREEK. AND YOU CAN IT ALL DOWN TO A SINGLE PARCEL OR WHATEVER HASN'T BEEN USED LIKE THEY'RE DOING PARTIAL PAY AND THROUGHOUT THE CITY. THIS IS NONSENSE. IT'S NOT LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL WHEN YOU HAVE MORE THAN HIGH-DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. BEING BUILT NEXT TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND HOW CAN YOU SAY YOU'RE INCREASING THE RATIO OF COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL. WHEN YOU'RE STRIPPING AWAY ALL THE LIMITS ARE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IN PORT. POLICIES SUCH AS THIS AND STAFF SAYS IF YOU DON'T ADD THIS NEW POLICY. THEY CAN'T CONTINUE TO HAVE POSTER HOUSING. IT HAD CLOSED OR HOUSING AND THE CURRENT POLICY THAT WE WANT YOU EAT. ITS TOTAL GASLIGHTING SAY THAT. AND THEN TO THE OTHER AND THAT IS THE WHAT WAS ON THE OTHER DAY THAT YOU DIDN'T ALLOW THAT RESPOND TO IS COMPLETELY INADEQUATE GASLIGHT AGO. THE SAY THAT. WHEN THE THE BRI CREEK EXPIRES. IF THE GOLF WANTS ANY NEW ZONING. OR DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS OR A NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROVISION. YOU HAVE TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS A FOOTNOTE AND ACTIVITY CENTER 2 LOT OF POLICY. BY THAT PLACEMENT COULD BE ARGUED NOT TO APPLY THE REST OF HEARING CREEK. AND WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE DEVELOPERS ALREADY SAID THEY THEY HAVE AN INTEREST AND DEVELOPING THE GOLF COURSE COUPLE YEARS AGO. WHEN EXPIRES THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO ARGUE THEY HAVE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT THAT THAT PROPERTY. WHICH IS ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ZONING CODE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AT A LIMITED DENSITY BASED ON WHAT I JUST CRITICIZED BEFORE. SO THIS INADEQUATE PROVISION DOESN'T GIVE YOU COVER. YOU'RE LEAVING A VERY PRETTY EXPOSED. RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE GOLF COURSE. THE CHANGES BEING MADE IN THIS ULDC BECAUSE YOU'RE STRIPPING REALLY MASTER PLANS. I HAVE SPECIFIC WORDING TO GIVE YOU IS SPECIFIC SECTION THAT WOULD KEEP THE MASTER PLAN REQUIREMENT. AND CITY COMMISSION CONTROL ONCE THE DRI EXPIRED. >> LED OFF BUT I THINK YOU JUST HAVE STILL FACES AND THAT I SAY THAT THAT'S A LITTLE >> GOOD EVENING. >> I WISH I COULD GIVE BACK MY 5 MINUTE 3 MINUTES. HE'S KNOWS WHAT HE'S SAYING TO YOU. AND YOU KNOW A SINCERE AND HE'S RIGHT. THERE'S NO DOUBT. AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING THESE PEOPLE HERE IN CREEK. IS NOT RIGHT. I REMEMBER HAD FREQUENT AS MARCH STREET YOU ARE AND THEN THEY CHANGED AGAIN HERE IS WE NEED THAT ALL RIGHT. THE THING THAT ELIMINATED WAS A LOT OF. ENVIRONMENTAL ASPECT AND THEY SWITCH TO HERON CREEK. YOU STILL NEED TO REMEMBER ABOUT THE LANDFILL STILL AIR AND THEY ASKED X AND ALL. AREA ALONG THAT AREA. TO INCLUDE. >> SO IT WILL TRACE SO RACE IS AN EXAMPLE. >> WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. BEEN HEARING FROM PEOPLE WE'LL HAVE. BUT AS YOU TO A NEW SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTISE. YOU'VE BEEN HERE AND SUBJECT MATTER HAS EXPERTISE FROM ROBIN, EVEN HERE IN SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTISE FOR MANY MANY OTHER CITIZENS. CHANGES YOUR MOOD CAN TONIGHT. AFFECT THIS COMMUNITY FOR DECADES. AND YOU KNOW THAT TOO. LISTEN TO SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS LISTEN TO SOME OF THESE ANSWERS LISTEN TO SOME OF THESE PERSPECTIVES. I'M GOING TO MAIN POINT. THEY'RE REZONING. THERE'S NO STATE STATUTE THAT SAYS YOU CAN NOT. AND FOR HIM. PUBLIC. THE REZONING OF THEIR PROPERTIES. ONLY REASON YOU'RE DOING IT AS YOU DON'T WANT MORE PEOPLE KNOW SO THEY MAY GO WHAT I'M HEARING ABOUT AS A CLASS ACTION SUIT. IT. BUT THE CITY DOESN'T CARE BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT THE PACKETS THE TAXPAYERS POCKETS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MISTER ENGLISH. THAT'S OK. >> ALL RIGHT DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE I KNOW COMMISSIONER WANTS TO MAKE SOME OCEANS BUT OTHER. COMMISSIONERS DID YOU WANT GOOD FINAL COMMENT. COMMISSIONER LANGDON I'M GOOD COMMISSIONER AVERAGE OU THERE DID YOU WANT ANY COMMENTS QUESTIONS. >> YES MAYOR. COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL GOING TO BRING UP ABOUT THE NOTIFICATIONS I DID ASK THE CITY MANAGER AND ON ONE. LAST WEEK AND US TO GET BACK WITH ME YESTERDAY BUT DUE TO THE STORMS AND EVERYTHING AND NEVER GOT A REPLY FROM HIM IF WAS ANY OTHER TYPE OF ALTERNATIVES THAT WE COULD USE AS A NOTIFICATION TOOL. SO MY QUESTION IS TO THE CITY MANAGER DID YOU GET ANY OF THAT INFORMATION THAT I ASK FOR. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER EMERICH GOT NO I DID NOT YOU'RE RIGHT. I WAS DISTRACTED BY THE OTHER THING FOR ALL OF THE STORE. WE HAVE TALKED TO >> WE DID DISCUSS OPTIONS THAT WE >> MIGHT BE HELPFUL NOTIFY OUR. SO THIS IS ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO HAVE NOT BEEN OR NOT HERE. >> TO PARTICIPATE IN PROCESS, AS FAR AS THE ACTION THAT WE HAVE TAKEN WE HAVE THE RULES AND A LOT OF THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU'RE CONCERNED WAS BUT PEOPLE LISTENING. THIS MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND JUST BECAUSE WE FOLLOW THE LAW YOU DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT WE FOLLOW THE LAW DOESN'T MEAN WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT FROM THE LAW BECAUSE WE DIDN'T FOLLOW THE LAW YOU WOULD ACCUSE US OF BREAKING THE LAW WHICH WOULD BE ACCURATE. SO MOVING THE GOALPOST ON WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS NOT THERE TO THIS PROCESS BUT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION WE ARE TRYING TO SOMETHING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE LET THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT HERE IN THOSE LOTS THAT ARE BE AWARE BASED ON THERE. NOT BEING HERE ON ANNUAL BASIS IN THE CITY. >> I THOUGHT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE MY RIGHT NOW OKAY. THANK YOU. >> I JUST WANTED TO. >> THIS IS. AT A DIFFICULT TOPIC BUT SOME AND ELECTED OFFICIALS PEOPLE HAVE LIED YOU THINK ELECTED OFFICIALS TO JUST DO WHAT WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE OR CERTAIN GROUPS OF PEOPLE. WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FORM OF GOVERNMENT IN THIS COUNTRY AND THAT MEANS THAT. WE HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT ARE IN THE BEST INTEREST FOR ALL THE PEOPLE THAT MEAN EVERYONE IS GOING TO BE HAPPY. NO THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO DO YOU HAVE THE COURTESY OF SPEAKING WITHOUT INTERRUPTION I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE SAME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> I'VE LIVED HERE SINCE 1990. >> AND BELIEVE ME WHEN I CAME HERE, I DIDN'T WANT TO SEE THINGS CHANGE EITHER. BUT I KNOW THAT NORTH PORT IS NOT. CITY THAT IT WAS BACK THEN IN FACT I CALLED IT HOW WE CALL THAT THE TOWN. BUT THINGS DO CHANGE AND. I WE HAVE TO EXCEPT THE REZONING OF PRICE BOULEVARD. THAT'S GOING TO BE 5 LANES OF OF ASPHALT AND THAT IS NOT GOING TO GET PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING THERE THE SAME EXPERIENCE THAT MAYBE THERE HAVING NOW EVEN NOW IT'S NOT. GOOD TO HAVE 2 LANES OF TRAFFIC BACKED UP AND THOSE ARE NOT JUST CARS. THOSE ARE CEMENT TRUCKS DUMP TRUCKS GO DOWN THERE AND YOU HAVE 5 LANES OF THAT AND IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE AND THEIR PEOPLE THERE THAT I SPOKE TO THAT WANT TO GET OUT, BUT THEY CANNOT SELL THEIR HOUSE AS A SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE OR SOMEONE WHO'S GOING TO BUY IT TO RAISE A FAMILY THERE. EVEN PEOPLE WHO THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO DEVELOP THEIR PROPERTY TO RETIRE THEY DECIDED THAT'S NOT THE PLACE FOR THEM ANYMORE EVEN WERE I LIVE. THERE WERE PROPERTIES THAT HAD BEEN SINCE THE 70'S AND I REMEMBER TRYING TO CONTACT PEOPLE TO SELL BECAUSE I JUST WANTED TO KEEP IT AND EVENTUALLY THEY ENDED UP SELLING TO PEOPLE WHO DEVELOP BECAUSE EVEN THEY SAID 10 YEARS AGO NORTH PORT IS NOT WHAT IT WAS WHEN WE FIRST LOOKED AT IT CITIES CHANGE PLACES CHANGE. AND I DON'T THINK ANY OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT NEED ANOTHER OPTION. FOR SELLING THEIR HOUSES SELLING THE PROPERTIES ON THESE THESE CORRIDORS AND THEY WERE NOT JUST CHOSE THEM RANDOMLY THESE ARE IN CERTAIN AREAS FOR A REASON. I'VE BEEN TO OTHER AREAS AND AND ALWAYS OBSERVE THINGS LIKE A LONG 7.76. I'VE MENTIONED 17TH STREET UP IN SARASOTA AT FRUITVILLE ROAD MOST OF YOU ONLY APPROVED PROBE ROAD FOR WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE NOW WHEN I CAME HERE THOSE ARE ORANGE GROVES OUT THERE WITH THE LITTLE LITTLE HOUSES THAT WAS NEVER GOING TO STAY THAT WAY AND THE AREAS THAT DID IT. THEY'RE NOT THAT RIGHT THEY'RE NOT GREAT AREAS BECAUSE THEY HAVE AGAIN 5 LANES OF ASPHALT IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSES. SO THIS ISN'T A TAKE UNLIKELY, BUT A LIGHTLY BUT AGAIN YOU HAVE TO MAKE SOME DIFFICULT DECISIONS HERE DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU'RE GOING TO LIKE THEM AND OBVIOUSLY YOU DON'T. BUT PEOPLE HAVE TO MAKE TOUGH DECISIONS. I WISH COMMISSION'S 2 YEARS AGO, MAYBE SOME OF DECISIONS AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE ADDRESSING THIS THE WAY WE ARE NOW. I KNOW THERE WAS A COMMENT MADE ABOUT THE ULDC THE STAFF HAVING THE ABILITY TO APPROVE PROJECTS I UNDERSTAND THAT'S FOR IF THEY'RE IN A 100% COMPLIANCE THAT MEANS THEY ALL THE BOXES HAVE BEEN CHECKED ALL THOSE BOXES THAT WE HAVE ALL RIGHT HE SAID. IT SHOULD BE THAT'S THAT'S IT THERE REALLY IS NO REASON TO COME HERE IF IF YOU FOLLOW THE RULES AND IT'S THE SAME THING WHEN YOU HAD YOUR HOUSE AND I HAVE TO SAY WE'RE ALL DEVELOPERS WE ALL DEVELOP A PLAN TO BUILD A HOUSE. IF YOU CHECKED ALL THOSE BOXES ON THAT LIST. YOU WOULDN'T WANT SOMEBODY SAYING WELL, YES, BUT WE'D LIKE YOU TO DO THIS TO YOUR PROPERTY BECAUSE I LIVED NEXT DOOR TO YOU. IT'S REALLY THE SAME NO MATTER IF IT'S A LARGE LARGE-SCALE DEVELOPMENT OR NOT IT'S STILL DEVELOPING PROPERTY. AND PRETTY I JUST HAVE TO CLARIFY THAT WITH THAT BECAUSE I WASN'T ABOUT MISTER ENGLISH MENTIONED HERON CREEK YES, I REMEMBER THAT THAT WAS MARSH CREEK I HAD TREAT THE GOES THROUGH THERE. THERE WAS A SCRUB JAY STUDY DONE BY JON THAXTON AND AT THE TIME THEY DID NOT ENOUGH INE WIDE SCOPE JASON THAT AREA EVEN THOUGH WE QUESTION THAT THAT IS WHAT THE ACTUAL STUDY SAYS WHICH I DO HAVE A HOWEVER WITH IDENTIFIED HAVING SCRUB JAY HABITAT THAT'S REALLY WHAT WHAT WAS IN THAT STUDY AND THAT'S HOW THAT AREA WAS DEVELOPED WHETHER OR NOT I AGREE WITH THAT OR YOU AGREE WITH THAT THAT IS REALLY WHAT IS OFFICIAL SO JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. WITH THINK I'VE HAD MY. MIKE PENCE HERE. YEAH. AND I DON'T THINK JUST PART I THINK MOST OF YOU WERE NOT HERE CHARLOTTE COUNTY HAD THEIR MURDOCH VILLAGE IDEA. AND THAT WAS THEIR ATTEMPT. TOO REZONE BECAUSE THEY KNEW THAT THEY COULD NEVER AFFORD TO BRING INFRASTRUCTURE THERE AND THEY ACTUALLY USED EMINENT DOMAIN IT WAS A TERRIBLE TERRIBLE PROCESS. I DON'T EVER WANT TO SEE THE CITY GET TO THAT POINT WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT IN ORDER TO NOT HAVE ALL OF THE TAX BURDEN SHOULDERED BY RESIDENTS BECAUSE PREVIOUS COMMISSIONS DIDN'T ACT. ON IT THAT'S FINALLY COMING TO AN END OVER THERE IN CHARLOTTE COUNTY BUT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE EVER WANT TO SEE HERE. SORRY I WOULD WAS ON A SOAPBOX THERE FOR A WHILE WHICH I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THIS IS SOMETHING I HAD TO SAY. COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. >> LOOKING AT THE WEBSITE AND IT DOES HAVE A SUB MIDDLE CHECKLIST FOR A FENCE OR A SHED FOR A PERMIT AND IT WAS REVISED IN NOVEMBER OF 2023, AND IT DOES REQUIRE A PERMIT APPLICATION PROPERTY ID NUMBER 4 COPIES OF THE SURVEY. HI TYPE OF FENCE INCLUDED IN THIS AND A NOTICE OF COMMENCEMENT OF THE JOBS OVER $5,000. REMOVING THIS REQUIREMENT THERE IS NO NOTICE OF COMMENCEMENT TO THERE IS NO CHECKS AND BALANCES TO ENSURE THAT THE FENCES ON THE PROPERTY ON THE CORRECT PROPERTY OWNER'S PROPERTY. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A FEW MOTIONS MAYOR SEE HOW THEY WILL FLY. >> OKAY GOING BACK TO THE FENCE. >> THE CODE REQUIRES A VINYL COATED BLACK OR GREEN COLORED. CHAIN-LINK FENCE. DON'T KNOW WHY THAT'S EVEN NECESSARY ESPECIALLY IN RESIDENTIAL AREA. I BEFORE I MAKE THE MOTION IS I'D LIKE TO GET STAFFS UNDERSTANDING AS TO WHY WE HAVE TO HAVE A FINAL COVID. BLACK OR GREEN IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONE. THAT WAS A QUESTION. I DON'T CLOTHING CHAIN LIKE VERY >> OUR BOND SYSTEM TRACTOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES THAT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR CITIES TO ONLY ALLOW OUR FINAL CUT OFF. I KNOW HOW DID FOR US AND ONGOING PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CHAIN-LINK FENCES DO TEND TO ROSS AND EVENTUALLY. THAT HER FROM. THE AESTHETICS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD SO THE FINAL COATING. INCREASES THE LONGEVITY OF THAT FENCING AND KEEPS THE NEIGHBORHOODS KNOTS. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT MAKE A MOTION MAYOR OF GOT ONE. SO LET YOU KNOW HOW MANY OF ONE TOO. 3, 4, MOTIONS ALL RIGHT, LET'S START WITH NUMBER ONE OK NUMBER TO MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT OF VINYL COATING FOR SINGLES. SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. >> OWNING DISTRICTS. OK SO IF THE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL REGARDING FENCES TO REMOVE THE VINYL COATING IN SINGLE FAMILY. RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. SO I HAVE THAT RIGHT. I KNOW COATING REQUIREMENT IN SINGLE PERSON OR EVENT STRICT STRICT. DO I HAVE A SECOND. I'LL SECOND RESPECT. LIKE TO SPEAK TO GO AHEAD, VICE MAYOR. I THINK THAT. THIS BAR INC. >> SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED REASONS WHY SO YOU KNOW I FEEL THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO GO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PROBLEM IS WITH SO I JUST WANTED TO COURTESY ALLOWING. EVERY COMMISSIONER WHATEVER COMMENT THEY MAY WANT TO MAKE REGARDING THIS MATTER BUT I THINK STAFF STOPPED THE RIGHT IDEA HERE AND YOU KNOW FENCES TO RUSH LIKE CRAZY THAT THEY THERE INSTEAD NIGHTMARE AND SO THE COATING DOES DO A GOOD JOB. HELP. KEEP THEM LOOKING GOOD. >> ARE ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU FOR THAT COMMISSIONER AND MUCH DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING. TO ADD TO THIS. >> NOT ONLY THING I HAVE TO ADD TO IT AS I UNDERSTAND THE REASONING WHY IS THE COST FACTOR TO THE HOMEOWNER. AND IT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT CHEAPER AND I CAN GET DOWN NOT AS MODELS SO I'D BE IN FAVOR FOR THIS. >> ALL RIGHT SO WE HAVE THAT MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE ON THAT FIRST MOTION I WILL CALL FOR A VOTE THAT WE HAVE AND WITH THAT. >> VICE MAYOR VICE MAYOR KNOW. MAYORS LANGDON NO. WE SHOULD YES. AND COMMISSIONER EMRICH COMMISSIONER I WAS A YES, OKAY, AND THAT FAILS 2 TO 3. THE NEXT ONE IS. >> RELATING TO THE TREES IN THE FRONT YARD AND USING STAFF'S MEMO. AS A GUIDELINE TO HAVE THIS MOTION WILL BE FORMULATED I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO EXEMPT SINGLE FAN. I'M SORRY. TO EXEMPT EXISTING HOMES PRIOR TO JULY FIRST 2027 WITH OR WITHOUT SEPTIC SYSTEMS FROM CODE FOR 0.3 0.6. >> C AND >> COMMISSIONER REPEAT AFTER THE CODE. 0.3. >> 0.6. C. >> AND D AND THAT CODE NUMBER JUST FOR CLARITY IS REQUIRING TREES AND SHRUBS ON A SINGLE FAMILY LOT THAT STAFF SAID THAT THAT IS NOT TO THEIR INTENT. FOR EXISTING HOMES. >> ALL RIGHT, HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL AND COMMISSIONER DOW JUST WANTED TO. CLARIFY. >> YOU JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THIS IS NOT. DOES NOT INCLUDE EXISTING HOMES. THAT'S REALLY YOUR INTENT OF THIS MOTION TO EXAMINE THAT. >> EXISTING HOMES YET PRIOR TO JULY FIRST 2027, WITH OR WITHOUT SEPTIC SYSTEMS FROM CODE FOR 0.3 0.6 C. >> AND >> OKAY BECAUSE THIS IS SLATED TO BE EFFECTIVE ON JULY FIRST 2027 I UNDERSTAND THAT BUT THERE IS A PROVISION IN THE CODE IF IF SOMEBODY SECOND THAT I WILL EXPLAIN ALL SET TO GO AHEAD BY A THANK YOU VICE CHAIR THAT COMMISSIONER DOWN THERE'S A PROVISION IN THE CODE. >> THAT IT IS >> EXEMPTING CERTAIN REGULATIONS DUE TO STATE LAW IN HURRICANE IAN. >> THAT TAKES EFFECT AFTER JULY 1ST OF 2027. THIS THAT PHRASE IS USED THROUGHOUT THIS CODE REWRITE FOR JULY FIRST 2027. AND THE REASON I DIDN'T SAY EXISTING HOMES TODAY OR WHEN THIS TAKES EFFECT IS BECAUSE THERE IS THAT TWO-YEAR ISH LED TIME. FOR ANY HOMES THAT COME ON THAT GET CO. SO THAT'S WHY I PICKED THAT DATE. ANY >> QUESTIONS DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL CITY CLERK COULD BE READ THAT BACK. >> MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR STOKES TO EXEMPT EXISTING HOMES PRIOR TO JULY FIRST 2027 WITH OR WITHOUT SEPTIC SYSTEMS FROM CODE SECTION 3004.6 C AND D. >> OKAY AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR NOTHING ELSE WE WILL DO A VOICE. VICE MAYOR OF THERE'S A YES. LANGDON SAY YES. MCDOWELL IS YES. COMMISSIONER EMRICH EMRICK. I MEAN ALL RIGHT SO THAT PASSES 5 TO 0 ALL RIGHT COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL NUMBER 3 I SHOCKED FACE. THANK YOU. >> THE SECOND MOTION IS TO EXEMPT EXISTING HOMES. I'M SORRY EXEMPT. HOLMES THAT RECEIVED A C KNOW. AFTER JULY FIRST 2027. THAT HAVE A SEPTIC SYSTEM. FROM CODE 4 POINTS 3.6 C ANDY. >> I WE HAVE A MOTION MADE COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL CITY CLERK WHEN YOU'RE FINISHED CLACKING AWAY THERE COULD BE >> TAKES EMPTY HOMES THAT RECEIVE A CO AFTER JULY FIRST 2027 THAT HAVE A SEPTIC SYSTEM FROM CODE SECTION 3004.6 CMT. >> I GET A SECOND ALL EXPLAIN WHAT THAT CODE AND SELL SECOND SET >> THIS IS. >> ANY HOMES BUILT AFTER JULY FIRST THAT MAGIC DATE THAT'S IN THIS CO GET TO THAT HAVE A SEPTIC SYSTEM WOULD NOT TO BE REQUIRED TO FOLLOW THE REQUIREMENTS OF PLANTING TREES AND SHRUBS ON FRONT YARD OF THEIR PROPERTY. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT STAFF SAID STAFF WILL NEVER REQUIRE SOMEONE TO PLANT TREES OR SHRUBS OVER SEPTIC FIELD ANYWHERE THAT WOULD COMPROMISE THAT SEPTIC FIELD. SO THAT'S WHY THAT I PUT AFTER THAT DATE BECAUSE THE FIRST MOTION COVERED UP TO THAT DATE THIS IS ONLY EXEMPTING THOSE THAT HAVE SEPTIC SYSTEMS AFTER THAT SHOULD THANK THANK YOU FOR THE SECOND IN DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER LANGDON. YES, THANK YOU. >> AND IN MY OWN NEIGHBORHOOD OF SEEN WAY TOO MANY EXAMPLES OF TREES BEING REMOVED FROM AREAS OF THE PROPERTY WHERE THEY COULD HAVE BEEN SUSTAINED. I HAVE A SEPTIC SYSTEM. >> AND I HAVE PLENTY ROOM, I'M IN THE FRONT OF MY PROPERTY AND ON THE SIDE OF MY PROPERTY TO PUT TREES IF I WANTED TO HAVE THEM THERE. I APPRECIATE THE INTENTION BUT I'VE JUST SEEN WAY TOO MUCH ABUSE EVEN IN MY OWN NEIGHBORHOOD OF PEOPLE REMOVING TREES THAT REALLY COULD HAVE STAYED ON THAT PROPERTY AND THOSE PROPERTIES HAVE WELL AND SEPTIC. >> OK AND YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA WEIGH IN ON THIS WOULD PRETTY MUCH MEAN THIS IS USELESS BECAUSE WE HAVE 45,000 LOTS IN THIS CITY BETTER. AND SEPTIC AND MOST OF THEM ON WELL, WHICH IS 12,000 ACRES OF LAND THAT WILL HAVE THE BIGGEST IMPACT AND HAS HAD IMPACT OF THE LOSS OF OUR TREE CANOPY BECAUSE THERE WAS NOTHING REQUIRING PEOPLE THAT HAVE HAVE A TREE ANYWHERE ON THE PROPERTY WHERE AS A LARGE-SCALE DEVELOPMENTS HAVE TO BUT TRAINS AND SHRUBS AND THERE. AND HOW IT READS IT'S ONE TREE. ONE TRAIT NEEDS TO BE AND THAT FRONT YARD CERTAINLY NOT ON THE DRAIN FIELD AND THE DRAIN FIELD IS NOT THE ENTIRE FRONT YARD. AND THAT'S BEEN MADE CLEAR VERY A LOT AND AGAIN AT THIS FOR DECADES VERY LONG TIME. THERE IS ROOM FOR A TREE, SOMEWHERE AND THAT FRONT AND IF WE'RE GOING TO BE MOMENTUM ABOUT THE LOSS OF OUR TREE CANOPY INTERNATIONAL ENVIRONMENT WE OUGHT TO TAKE OWNERSHIP. OF OF THAT I CERTAINLY HAVE I TELL PEOPLE ALL THE TIME I INVITE YOU TO COME SEE MY HOUSE BECAUSE ACTUALLY WE CAN'T SEE MY HOUSE ALL AND I'VE BEEN THERE FOR 33 YEARS. IT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE TREATED FRONT YARD. AGAIN RIGHT TREE RIGHT PLACE IS REALLY REALLY IMPORTANT. OF COURSE, BUT WE HAVE TO REALLY GOING TO BE SERIOUS ABOUT THIS THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO START DOING. TO MAKE UP FOR THAT LOSS SO THAT'S. THAT'S MY LOOK AT THE WORD SEPTIC TANK THAT'S MY TAKE ON THIS. COMMISSIONER AVERAGE DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT. >> WE'RE SITTING HERE ARGUING OVER ONE TREE. YEAH HOMEOWNER'S FRONT YARD. WITH THE CENTER FOR WORRIED ABOUT IT RECOUNTS. LET THEM PUT IT THAT TREE IN THE BACKYARD, LET THEM PUT IT THE SIDE YARD. IF THERE'S BOTH HAVE 3 OR 4 TREES LET THEM PUT THEM ANYWHERE THEY WANT TO PLUG THEM RATHER THAN REGULATE THEM AND SAY YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE THAT TREE IN YOUR FRONT YARD. LET THEM HAVE THAT OPTION. SO I'M IN AGREEMENT OF THIS, I MEAN TREE ROOTS RUN FOREVER, YOU'RE NOT WATCHING WHAT'S GOING ON UNDERNEATH THE GROUND FOR YEARS AND AND YEARS AND IT BECOMES A VERY EXPENSIVE RETHINKS IF YOU'VE GOT TO CHANGE YOURSELF TO GO BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE CITY WATER AVAILABLE OUT THERE WHICH IS MANY MANY YEARS OUT IN THE PLAN SO YOU KNOW SEEN A LOT ON FACEBOOK AND AND THIS IS JUST ONE THING THAT'S I RING THE CITIZENS OUT THERE SAYING. H.O.A. PORT. I MEAN COME LET'S LET'S. WE DIDN'T GIVE A LITTLE BIT IT'S TREE PER PROPERTY THAT CAN BE MOVED TO THE BACK YARD. THAT'S WHY I LOOK AT IT NOW SUPPORT THIS. >> ANYTHING FURTHER. >> ALL RIGHT SO WE HAD A A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL, SO WE NEED THAT REPEATED OR DO WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON. WE'RE OK GOT IT AND VICE MAYOR SECONDED THAT SO WE WILL DO A VOICE. BY SPARE. >> VICE MAYOR'S FO, YES, THIS ONE. I THINK THAT THE. PLANT THE TREES WHERE THEY WANT. I THINK PEOPLE SHOULD WANT TO PLANT TREES NOT TAKE THEM DOWN SO I MEAN YES ALL RIGHT, I MEAN NOW. >> LANGDON NO. >> MCDOWELL YES. >> COMMISSIONER AVERAGE. >> I'M A YES. >> ALL RIGHT SO THAT PASSES 3 TO 2. ALL RIGHT. 2 MORE 2 MORE TO GO IT SHOULD SAY. THIS MOTION HAS TO DO WITH THE RELATIONSHIP TO THE COMP PLAN THAT I ALREADY READ THAT WAS REMOVED FROM THE THAT WE SAW IN NOVEMBER OF 22. SO I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO INCLUDE NUMBER I MEAN JUST FOR THE RECORD I'VE GIVEN THE CITY CLERK A COPY OF THE LANGUAGE. OF THIS. MAKE A MOTION TO INCLUDE NUMBER 4. AS PRESENTED ON NOVEMBER 7TH 2022. IN 2 SECTION ONE 1.3. AND NUMBER ACCORDINGLY. THE FOLLOWING AND HE RUNS TO PRESCRIBE STANDARDS BY THE LAND DEVELOPER OF THOSE REQUIRED IMPROVEMENTS SHOULD NOT BECOME A CHARGE. >> THE CITIZENS. >> AND TAXPAYERS OF ALREADY EXISTING AREAS. >> CITY CLERK TO HAVE THAT. >> TO INCLUDE NUMBER 4 AS PRESENTED ON NOVEMBER 7TH 2022 IN THE SECTION 1001.3 AND RE NUMBER ACCORDINGLY THE FOLLOWING AND HE RUNS TO PRESCRIBE STANDARDS BY THE LAND DEVELOPER OF THOSE REQUIRED IMPROVEMENT SHOULD NOT BECOME A CHARGE ON THE CITIZENS AND TAXPAYERS OF ALREADY EXISTING AREAS. >> THAT WAS THE MOTION. A SECOND. DISCUSSION VICE MAYOR SECONDED YOU CAN DISCUSS AND LISTEN MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS CAN COULD BE A GOOD REASON WHY THIS ISN'T A GOOD IDEA. YOU KNOW, I'M SUPPORTIVE. SO THANKS BOTH COMMISSIONERS MIGHT HAVE SHOWN YEAH I'D LIKE TO HEAR THAT RED AGAIN COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL WHAT WHAT IS THAT. >> IT SAYS IS FROM NOVEMBER 7TH 2022 YOU RIGHT WHEN WE HAD OUR VERY FIRST WORKSHOP ON CHAPTER ONE RIGHT THERE REALLY WASN'T THAT MUCH DISCUSSION ON CHAPTER WANT UNA OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THIS WAS IN THAT DRAFT LANGUAGE. SOMEHOW SOMEWHERE ALONG THE WAY. I NOTICED IT AT FIRST READING IT MAY HAVE BEEN REMOVED I DON'T KNOW AT THE WORKSHOP WHEN WE HAD THE FIRST. MARY YOU KNOW ALL THE CHAPTERS TOGETHER SO I FORGOT TO MENTION THIS AT FIRST READING SO THAT'S WHY I'M BRINGING IT UP ITS SECOND READING IT WAS IMPORTANT TO HAVE IN THERE DURING THAT CHAPTER ONE WORKSHOP. >> AND IT'S CLEARLY SAYING WE ARE THE DEVELOPMENTS SHOULD NOT BE A COST TO EXISTING TAXPAYERS THAT THEY HAVE TO PAY KIND LIKE GROWTH PAY FOR GROWTH. AND IT'S IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE COMP PLAN AND IT WAS IN THERE. IT'S NO LONGER IN THEIR FIRST FIRST AND SECOND READING SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING TO HAVE IT PUT BACK >> TO DO IT'S JUST EXPLAIN COST ARE YOU REFERRING ANYTHING IMPROVEMENT IT SAYS. PRESCRIBED STANDARDS BY THE LAND DEVELOPER OF THOSE REQUIRED IMPROVEMENTS SHOULD NOT BECOME A CHARGE ON THE CITIZENS AND TAXPAYERS OF ALREADY EXISTING AREAS. SO BASICALLY IT. AND AND I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN INTERPRETATION. I THINK IT KIND OF SPEAKS ITSELF IF A DEVELOPER HAS TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS. TAXPAYERS ARE PAYING FOR THEY ARE. THE DEVELOPER US. AND AGAIN I DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS REMOVED STAFF FELT IT WAS NECESSARY TO HAPPEN THERE. >> OK I WOULD LIKE TO STAFF, YES, THIS THING I THINK HAS A LOT OF LEGS. >> HIDDEN BEHIND A CURTAIN SO. I MEAN PART PART OF HOW I REACTED YEAH, IT'S YOU KNOW GROWTH SHOULD PAY FOR GROWTH, WE KNOW IT WAS. BUT. SOMETIMES THERE ARE IMPROVEMENTS THAT A DEVELOPER MIGHT MAKE THAT REALLY BENEFIT AT. THE GENERAL AREA, SO I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM STAFF WHAT SOME THE UP AND DOWN SIDE OF THAT CHANGE WOULD MAKE. DO WE CHARGE PEOPLE NOW. >> I'M LORI VAN SYSTEM DIRECTOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. THE LANGUAGE REFERENCED FROM NOVEMBER OF 2022. I CANNOT SPEAK TO TONIGHT WHY THAT LANGUAGE WAS REMOVED THAT MAY HAVE BEEN PART OF THE LEGAL REVIEW AND MAY HAVE PART OF THE STAFF FOR YOU. I DIRECTOR RAIN HIGH AFTER THE DEPARTURE >> THE. >> COMPREHENSIVE PLAN INCLUDES PROVISIONS THAT PROVIDE FOR. DEVELOPER I'M INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS. THAT'S COVERED IN THE COMP PLAN LANGUAGE HERE I THINK. >> WE NEED TO ANALYZE FURTHER IF IT'S GOING TO BE INCORPORATED INTO THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. PRESCRIBED. >> STANDARDS. >> FOR DEVELOPMENT SHALL NOT UP PAY OR SELL NOT BE BORNE BY THE TAXPAYER IS >> AND REALLY WHAT THE LANGUAGE IN REFERENCE. WHAT ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN SUBJECTS. IF THE CITY COMMISSION WANTED TARGETED INDUSTRY TO COMMENT TO THE BAY AND WANTED TO PROVIDE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES THROUGH OUR ECONOMIC WOULD WE BE BARRED FROM DOING THAT IF WE INCORPORATED THAT LANGUAGE. WELL THAT AND VALIDATE OUR. ARE DRAFTS AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER THAT PROVIDE FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES FOR TARGETED INDUSTRIES. SO THERE ARE MANY QUESTIONS SURROUNDING THIS LANGUAGE THAT IS BEING SUGGESTED FOR INCORPORATION STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND IT BEING REVIEWED OUR ALI PRIOR TO INCORPORATING ANY SUCH LANGUAGE THE AT THIS LATE DATE WE HAVE NOW INDICATOR THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION TONIGHT. >> I HAVE A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION THAT THE MAYOR AND I THINK I STILL HAVE THE FLOOR NOW DEVELOPERS ARE REQUIRED WHEN THEY DO A SUBDIVISION RESIDENTIAL OVER CERTAIN SIZE TO PUT IN WATER AND SOLAR. THEY'RE REQUIRED TO DO THAT. THAT INVESTMENT IS ON BY THE PURCHASE PERSON WHO PURCHASES. AROUND SO WHAT HAPPENS THEN. >> WHAT'S IMPLICATION. I MEAN THAT'S GENERAL STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE EVERYWHERE SO WHAT HAPPENS TO THEM IF WE HAVE THIS LANGUAGE IN OUR ULDC. >> I THAT'S THAT'S A GOOD I THINK IT COULD CAUSE SOME CONCERN NOW OF COURSE THE CITY DOESN'T INVOLVED IN PRIVATE TRANSACTIONS BETWEEN DEVELOPERS AND AND HOME PURCHASERS FOR HOME BUYERS. I GUESS EVENTUALLY BE SO AGAIN WAIT IF THAT KIND OF LANGUAGE IS GOING TO BE INCORPORATED GENERAL PROVISIONS WHEN WE FEEL IT SHOULD BE. REVIEWED BY STAFF THE PROS CONS AND THEN ALSO AND PUT FROM THE CITY ATTORNEYS OFFICE OUTSIDE COUNSEL ON INCORPORATING THAT TYPE OF WE FEEL AS ORDER. >> I WOULD AGREE MAKE AN AMENDMENT. REVIEW. I'M I'M NOT IN THE FOR AN AMENDMENT. >> SO. >> WE CAN CERTAINLY GET THERE. THERE ARE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS TO THIS ULDC. AND IT CLEANS UP A LOT OF THINGS AND PUTS IN A LOT OF REQUIREMENTS, PARTICULARLY FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT WE DESPERATELY NEED TO HAVE. TO DELAY AND I WOULD NOT DELAY TONIGHT'S VOTE. TO RESEARCH THAT ADDITION, BUT I WOULD PUT IT AT THE TOP OF THE LIST. I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS BUT STAFF THINGS CHANGE OVER TIME THE ULDC WILL BE A LIVING DOCUMENT. LET'S PUT THIS ON THE TOP OF THE LIST OF THINGS TO BE DEBUT AFTER THE DUST SETTLES. I THINK THERE ARE TOO. MANY POTENTIAL AND VERSE. UNANTICIPATED CONSEQUENCES OF THIS THAT WE REALLY NEED TO RESEARCH AND DISCUSS. BUT TONIGHT NOT PREPARED TO DO THAT SO LET'S PUT IT ON THE TOP OF THE LIST. THINGS TO REVIEW AFTER THE DUST SETTLES. I I KNEW VICE MAYOR JOHN A. >> YEAH I AND I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE. PORCH. THIS WILL MISTER ROBSON. GENUINE CONCERNS, NOT TO SAY THAT THIS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE WORKED THROUGH IN TIME, BUT BUT I DON'T DISAGREE THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME DILIGENCE ON THIS ISSUE BEFORE WE WERE TO ADOPT THIS ITS MOTION SO SO MORE INCLINED TO YOU KNOW. MOVE FORWARD AND THEN AS COMMISSIONER LANGDON RECOMMENDS WE WE PICKED THIS UP IS SOMETHING WE HAVE STAFF LOOK INTO IN OUR LEGAL STAFF LOOK INTO IT DETERMINE WHETHER THIS MAKES SENSE AND WHAT POTENTIAL PITFALLS THERE MIGHT BE OUT THERE. WE WERE WITHOUT THIS KIND OF LANGUAGE SO YEAH. I APPRECIATE THAT GUY LIKE A REALLY GOOD COACH. >> OK THROUGH WHEN ASKED THE COMMISSIONER AND WHAT SHOULD YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD ON THIS. >> YEAH, I'M PRETTY MUCH STILL AND YOU KNOW AGREEMENT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE. YOU KNOW LEGAL AND STAFF LOOK INTO IT MAY EVEN EARLIER IN THE EVENING AND THEY TALKED ABOUT BRINGING BACK. MANY AMENDMENTS, YOU KNOW, AND THIS COULD BE ONE OF THOSE AMENDMENTS THAT COULD BE BROUGHT BACK. ADDED AS LONG AS LEGALLY FEASIBLE AND NOT DETRIMENTAL. >> OK THANK AND I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT TOO. >> JUST SO PEOPLE KNOW THIS IS AS COMMISSIONER LANGDON SAID THIS IS A FLUID DOCUMENT ITS BUT THIS IS NOT WRITTEN IN STONE I MEAN IT THINGS CHANGE WE HAVE CHANGED PARTS OF THE CODE THROUGHOUT THE YEARS SO SOMETHING LIKE THIS I THINK ITS OWN CONVERSATION AND NOT. >> RIGHT RIGHT HERE AT AT MAKE A DECISION HERE ON I WANT TO CALL FOR THE VOTE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT THERE. I CAN MAKE MEANT THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT. >> 2 AND HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY WORK WITH STAFF TO REVIEW AND WEIGH THE MERITS OF THE LANGUAGE. THE PROS AND CONS AND VERBIAGE AND REPORT BACK TO COMMISSION. THE A MEMO WITHIN A COUPLE OF WEEKS. THAT'S RIGHT. >> THANK YOU DIRECTOR DEVELOPMENT I HAVE CONCERNS WITH THE STAFF WILL HAVE TO DO SOME RESEARCH ON THIS AND DEVELOP MEMO AND THEN WE WILL HAVE TO SEND IT TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE INTENSITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TIMELINE FOR REVIEWS LEAST 30 DAYS ON JUST ABOUT ANY ISSUE. IT'S IT'S GOING TO TAKE MORE WEEKS. IT WILL IT WILL TAKE US LONGER THAN THAT JUST TO RESEARCH. AND COME UP. >> WE DOESN'T TAKE EFFECT UNTIL OCTOBER 28TH OF 2024, THERE'S PLENTY OF TIME TO REVIEW IT RESEARCH IT. >> OKAY THAT'S YOUR LOOKING FOR A COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL THAT'S NOT TECHNICALLY AN AMENDMENT TO YOUR MOTION THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT YOUR AMENDMENT AS YOU'RE ADDING SOMETHING OR TAKING AWAY YOUR MOTION. ALL RIGHT THANKS FOR CLARIFYING A WHOLE NOTHER OKAY, I'M OKAY SO YEAH, THE FLOOR LET'S LET'S VOTE ON THE ORIGINAL ONE AND THEN YOU COULD YOU COULD DO AS A SEPARATE WANT TO DO THAT SO. >> DO WE NEED RIGHT BACK AND WE'LL CAT WE KNOW VOTING ON YOU WANT READ IT INTO KNOW OR NO DOES TO INCLUDE NUMBER 4 AS PRESENTED ON NOVEMBER, 7 2022 AND A SECTION ONE 1.3 AND RE NUMBER ACCORDINGLY THE FOLLOWING LANGUAGE AND HE RUNS TO PRESCRIBE STANDARDS BY A LAND DEVELOPER OF THOSE REQUIRED IMPROVEMENT SHOULD NOT BECOME A CHARGE ON THE CITIZENS AND TAXPAYERS OF ALREADY EXISTING AREAS. >> ALL RIGHT SO YES AS YOU AGREE WITH THAT YOU DON'T. TURNER'S THERE IS A NO LANGDON SAID NO DO YES. COMMISSIONER AVERAGE. OKAY, SO THAT FAILS ONE TO 4 COMMISSIONER DO HAVE A ANOTHER MOTION I DO THAT. THIS IS THE BIG ONE YET. THIS ONE I ATTEMPTED BEFORE. >> THIS ONE IS BEEN THE BIGGEST CONVERSATION AND THE REASON WHY I HAVE BEEN SO OUTSPOKEN ABOUT THIS ULDC REWRITE REZONE THE A STATE STATUTE IS THE MINIMUM AND YES STEPH FOLLOWED THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS OUTLINED BY STATE STATUTE. THERE IS A NUMBER 9. IN THAT SAME STATE STATUTE. THAT CLEARLY SETS. THIS IS THE MINIMAL. THE COMMISSION AND DIRECT. FOR ANYTHING ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT STATE STATUTE REQUIRES. SO I WILL MAKE A MOTION. TO REQUIRE THE CITY MANAGER TO WORK WITH THE CITY CLERK AND THE CITY MANAGER TO NOTIFY EACH PROPERTY OWNER. SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING. IS BEING CHANGED TO OUR 2. OUR 3. >> CT. >> C O R. >> A C. >> THE. >> I OR I'M TOO. NOTICE SHALL BE BY FIRST-CLASS MAIL. USING THE PROPERTY TAX ROLLS. FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER'S ADDRESS. AND THIS IS TO BE COMPLETED. BEFORE THE EFFECTIVE DATE. OF THIS ORDINANCE. COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. I MEAN YOU JUST REPEAT CHANGE TO OUR 2 OR 3. THE WHO SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING IS BEING CHANGED TO OUR 2. OUR 3. >> CT. C O R. >> A SCENE. THE. >> ONE. OR. >> I TOO. NOTICE SHALL BE BY FIRST-CLASS MAIL. USING THE TAX ROLLS FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER'S ADDRESS. THIS IS TO BE COMPLETED. BEFORE THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THIS ORDINANCE. >> THAT TO DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO WORK WITH THE CITY CLERK TO NOTIFY EACH PROPERTY OWNER WHO SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING IS BEING CHANGED TO OUR TO OUR 3 C TEENSY OR A C BEING I WANT OUR EYE TO BE A FIRST CLASS MAIL USING THE PROPERTY TAX ROLL FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER'S ADDRESS TO PRIOR TO THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE ORDINANCE. >> I DO I HAVE A SECOND ON THAT DIFFERENT DISCUSSION. VICE MAYOR SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND AND MAYBE STAFF CAN CAN SHED LIGHT ON IT IF WE WERE TO SUPPORT THIS. AND >> MY UNDERSTANDING IF IF WE WE DO APPROVES SECOND READING HERE THAT THIS NOTICE WOULD GO WELL BEFORE THE EFFECT THAT THEY JUST WENT UP TOLD WERE OVER 20 RIGHT UP TO OVER 28. AT LEAST THAT WOULD PUT EVERYONE ON NOTICE THAT AS OCTOBER 28. THIS ULDC CHANGE CONSENT WITH THIS IN ANY WAY TO WAIT THE ULDC PROCESS. >> THE ADOPTION OF THE ULDC IF THAT OCCURS AND THE EFFECTIVE WHAT OCTOBER 28. STAFF OR REQUIRE TOO. PROVIDE THAT NOTICE BETWEEN NOW AND THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE ORDINANCE. >> IT WOULD BE. >> A SERIOUS CHALLENGE AND MAY NOT BE ACCOMPLISHED ALL BY ABOUT 8 BETWEEN NOW AND THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE CODE. STAFF NEEDS TO AS YOU AND COMMUNITY EDUCATE THE CONSULTANTS EDUCATE THE CONTRACTORS. TOGETHER INTERIM PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES FOR OUR NEW APPLICATION TIGHT THAT WILL. CODE BETWEEN AND IMPLEMENTATION OF US UP AND THAT INCLUDES PREPARING ALL THE TIME BUT DOCUMENTS OR. RESOLUTIONS FOR EXAMPLE UNDER THE CODE FOR. I DON'T PLATT'S AND 4. THAT'S FOR CONCEPT PLANS. STAFF IS STRETCHED AND TO BEGIN WE'RE STILL SHORT PLANNERS ON THE DEPARTMENT OUR ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF. MANY OF THEM ARE TO THE CITY AND JUST LEARNING THE CITY. I'M NOT WITHSTANDING THE COST TO NOTIFY THESE PROPERTY OWNERS WHICH WE CAN EVEN ESTIMATE WITH OUT. DOING THOROUGH ANALYSIS OF WHICH PROPERTIES OR. CHANGED FROM SINGLE-FAMILY TO SOMETHING ELSE ON THE NEW DRAFT MAP AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE. THAT ASIDE ANY FUNDING FOR THAT KIND PATIENT. >> DO NOT HAVE FUNDING. I WILL SAY THAT THE EFFECTIVE DATE WOULD STILL BE THE EFFECTIVE DAY. OCTOBER 28 WOULD STILL BE THE EFFECTIVE DAY I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE RESOURCES BETWEEN NOW AND THEN TO BE READY. THE ADDITIONALLY I WILL LIKELY NEED TO MOVE PEOPLE FROM. THE ACELA IMPLEMENTATION. TO MANAGE THIS. WHICH MEANS WE WOULD LIKELY DELAY SELL. SO WE PROBABLY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GO LIVE ON A CELL IN DECEMBER. FOR EVERY MONTH THAT I DO NOT GO LIVE. ON ACELA IT WILL COST BATTLED ADDITIONAL $100,000 TO THE PROJECT. SO THAT FUNDING WOULD HAVE TO BE IDENTIFIED IN ADDITION TO THE FUNDING FOR THIS EFFORT. WE HAVE TALKED. ITS LATEST TODAY ABOUT AND ALTERNATIVE METHOD OF NOTIFICATION TO THESE PROPERTY OWNERS. AND WE ARE PREPARED DISCUSS THE METHODS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SO FAR IN ADDITIONAL METHODS FOR NOTIFICATION TO PROPERTY OWNERS. BUT TO DO IT BY OCTOBER 28 IS A SERIOUS. I DO SEE A PATH FOR IT TO BE DONE WITHOUT. NEGATIVELY IMPACTING OUR GO LIVE FOR US ELLA. THE BUDGET FOR LAW WHICH WOULD NEED TO BE MODIFIED AS WELL BEING ABLE TO GET ALL OF OUR FORMS AND ALL OF OUR PROCESSES AND OUR TRAINING DONE NOT JUST FOR OUR INTERNAL STAFF, BUT WE HAVE TRAINING SET THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO A SHOP FOR OUR CONTRACTORS ARE BUILDERS. ALL OF THOSE SO THAT THEY CAN BECOME FAMILIAR WITH NOT ONLY THE ONLY SEE BUT SELL AS WELL WE'RE GOING PLANNING TO GO LOT GO WITH THE TRAINING PROGRAM FOR SELLING FOR OUR OUTSIDE USERS NEXT MONTH, SO OKAY. >> I GOT THE AND I APPRECIATE THAT I DO APPRECIATE THAT THE OCTOBER DATE IT'S NOT REALISTIC AND CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT. >> WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD I WOULD ASSUME AND VOTE ON THIS ULDC SECOND READING TONIGHT AND. IT GOES INTO EFFECT IF IT'S VOTED ON FOR ME TO FLEE ON THE 28TH OF OCTOBER REGARDLESS THERE GOING TO BE. OTHER HOMEOWNER'S PROPERTY OWNERS WHERE. THERE'S REALLY GOING TO BE NO IMPACT TO THE ADOPTION. THIS ORDINANCE AND THIS ULDC REWRITE SO PERHAPS THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY OF PUSHING THAT DATE OUT EVEN FURTHER EVEN INTO NEXT YEAR IF NEED BE THE IDEA BEING THAT OVER A REASONABLE PERIOD OF TIME OR PROPERTY OWNERS SHOULD BE AWARE THAT THIS REWRITE TAKING PLACE AS YOU SAID ARE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIVE IN THE AREA. >> A NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THE CITY WERE JUST PREOCCUPIED WITH WITHIN THEIR LIVES RAISING THEIR FAMILIES AND AND THIS IS ON THE RADAR AND AS FOR THE COSTS. YOU KNOW WHAT IF IT COSTS THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS OR MORE IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE WILLING TO SPEND THEIR TAX DOLLARS TO BE NOTIFIED ABOUT THIS. I WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT. I JUST FEEL THAT WE NEED TO BE FLEXIBLE IF THERE'S ALTERNATIVE METHODOLOGY OF NOTIFICATION YEARS FOR THAT TO MY BIG CONCERN IS THAT THIS IS MANY MANY MANY MANY YEARS IN PROCESS FOR ANYBODY TO SAY REWRITE ITS BEING RUSHED THROUGH THE PROCESS IS ABSURD AND IT IS BEEN SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN THE LABEL FOR AN EXTENSIVE ♪ PERIOD OF TIME I DO NOT WANT TO SEE THAT DELAY. BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE NEED FOR PROPERTY OWNERS TO BE AWARE EVEN IF THEY HAVEN'T FOR WHATEVER REASON BECOME AWARE SO YOU KNOW. >> I'M INTERESTED IT'S IT'S CERTAINLY IT'S IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO WHERE WE'RE CERTAINLY OUR POST TONIGHT. I THINK WE SAID ALL ALONG THAT IF THE COMMISSION DRUG TESTING SOME MEDICATION WE ABSOLUTELY WOULD. IT'S THE TIMELINE I DON'T HAVE ANY ANY ISSUES WITH SOME. IF THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE SOME OPTIONS ON HOW WE DO NOTIFICATION AND WHAT THOSE TIMELINES WOULD BE WE'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO PUT THAT TOGETHER FOR YOU. I I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT AS FAR YOU KNOW WHAT WE HAVE DONE. WE HAVE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND THE MINIMUM EDUCATIONS BUT JUST WANT TO MAKE IT. CLEAR THAT WE'RE MORE THAN MORE THAN ABLE AND HAPPY TO DO THAT THE NOTIFICATION IT'S JUST A MATTER OF. OCTOBER 28, THIS ISN'T A PROBLEM JUST >> AND I'M I WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE NOTIFICATIONS BUT WITH THE DATE BUT A DAY LIKE ON THERE. SO I DON'T KNOW. COMMISSIONER ME. IN A BOWL AMENDMENT THERE, BUT IT'S JUST THE DATA. AGAIN I KNOW THE TIMELINES I THINK THAT IN THERE THAT'S A LOT OF PRESSURE AND. SOMETIMES YOU DON'T END UP WITH WITH A QUALITY PRODUCT WHEN YOU'RE LIKE THAT TO DO THINGS SO THAT'S GOING TO BE PROBLEM WITH IS THE DAY. WE WANT TO DO. >> LIED AND SAID HE'S GOING YES GO AHEAD CAN TAKE MY LIFE OKAY, ALRIGHT. COMMISSIONER DOUBT, YEAH, I'M SORRY. >> I HEARD THAT THEY THAT STAFF NEEDS TO EDUCATE THE BUSINESSES AND TRADES AND CONTRACTORS ABOUT THIS ULDC. >> I'M SORRY THAT SHOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN DONE THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN STAKEHOLDERS IN THIS WHOLE PROCESS. I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A COST INVOLVED. >> THIS IS A COST OF DOING BUSINESS. WE HAD NO PROBLEM WITH THE COST INVOLVED WHEN WE HAVE CONTRACTORS THAT HAVE TO DO THIS FOR THEIR REZONING. WHAT I HEARD THAT JUST BLOWS MY MIND. CORRECT ME I HEARD IT INCORRECTLY. THAT YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHICH PROPERTIES ARE BEING REZONED YOU DON'T HAVE THOSE PROPERTY ID NUMBERS LISTED SOMEWHERE. >> WE HAVE EVERY PARCEL ID IT'S A MATTER OF SCRUBBING THAT LIST TO ACCOUNT FOR. >> SINGLE FAMILY. BUT YOU SAID WE'RE GOING TO CERTAIN DISTRICTS. WE HAVE AN ENTIRE PARCEL LISTED ALL OF ONES THAT ARE BEING CHANGED. BUT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH INSCRIBED THAT LIST SO WE ARE PULLING OUT. RESIDENTIAL PARCEL PUT INTO THIS ZONE IN RESIDENTIAL PARCELS PUT INTO THIS OUT. I THOUGHT WOULD BE NOT JUST TO SAY. THE ONLY CHANGED FIRST, HERE'S A WEB SITE BUT ACTUALLY HAVE SOMETHING TO EACH OF THOSE DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICTS THAT SAYS YOUR PROPERTY HAS BEEN DOWN TO THIS. SO THAT IT'S NOT JUST A BLANKET STATEMENT, BUT WHAT WE'RE SENDING THEM SAYING YOUR INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY HAS BEEN ZONE TO A CERTAIN DISTANCE WELL DON'T YOU HAVE TO SEND THAT NOTIFICATION TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE OR THE TAX COLLECTOR 128 KNOW THAT YOU HAVE TO DO PROBABLY BY JANUARY FIRST BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN THEY DO THE REASSESSMENT OF THE TAX ROLLS OCTOBER 28 IS. >> MUCH SOONER THAN JANUARY 1ST. OKAY 2 MONTHS I BROUGHT UP THIS SUBJECT UP IN MARCH. WHEN I ASKED TO HAVE THE NOTIFICATIONS DONE MARCH ALL RIGHT THIS WITH G OBVIOUSLY OR SO IT'S ARGUMENT I'M NOT BEING ARGUMENTATIVE I AM SPEAKING FACT AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE HOW I'M SAYING IT I'VE GOT NOTHING FOR YOU THIS IS FACT. >> ARE DO HAVE A MOTION SECOND AND WE DID DISCUSS THAT I'D LIKE TO CALL FOR THE VOTE. DO WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT RED BACK TO DOING NOW. WHAT IS WE'VE GOT SOME GOOD SO THAT HAVE THE VOTE VICE MAYOR. VICE MAYOR NO. MAYER IS UNKNOWN LONDON'S UNO PICKED YES COMMISSIONER AVERAGE. ALL RIGHT SO THAT ONE TO 4. ♪ >> CAN HANDS ARE YOU LOOK AT THE YELLING AT US BASE. THAT'S JUST NOT KIND ♪ YES, I'M VOTING. >> PUBLIC HEARING NOT LOOKING FOR I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION >> STAFF TOO. >> LOOK AT THAT. >> FOR NOTIFICATION OF PROPERTY ON US WITH REGARD TO THIS ULDC REWRITE. TIMELY A FASHION AS POSSIBLE. >> I WOULD SECOND THAT. CITY CLERK THAT THAT. I HEAR THAT. >> TO DIRECT STAFF TO REVIEW OPTIONS FOR NOTIFICATION TO PROPERTY OWNERS REGARDING THE ULDC ME RIGHT IN A TIMELY MANNER AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, OKAY OPTIONS GOT IT. I MISSED THAT. THAT MADE BY VICE MAYOR SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON IF THERE IS I COULD COMMISSIONER DOW AND IS THAT PUTTING IT ON THE WEBSITE. WHAT WHAT. WHAT OPTIONS ARE GOING TO COME BY AND THERE'S THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO COMMISSION ARE THEY GOING JUST EXPLORE OPTIONS AND JUST DO WHAT THEY FEEL IS BEST GOING TO BRING BACK TO OKAY PART OF ARE YOU AND BRING BACK COMMISSION. THANK YOU CLARIFYING THAT ALL RIGHT. >> WE MADE A VOTE ON THAT ONE AND THE ONLY THING I'D LIKE TO ADD TO THAT IS. WE'RE AT SECOND READING. IF THE NOTIFICATIONS WENT OUT I HAVE TO FIRST READING OR EVEN PRIOR TO TEASE THAT REASON PRIOR TO FIRST SECOND READING. I'M SURE CHAMBERS WOULD BE MUCH MORE. SO EFFECTIVE IS OCTOBER 28. AND THE REASON I PUT OCTOBER 28 SO THAT PEOPLE WOULD KNOW THAT THIS IS TAKING EFFECT ON THIS DATE IN THEIR PROPERTIES BEING RE ZONE. >> NOTIFYING THE PEOPLE SOMETIME NEXT YEAR. IT IS DEFINITELY PUTTING THE CART AFTER THE HORSE. I WILL SUPPORT THIS SO THAT OUR CITIZENS GETTING NOTIFIED AND THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED AT LEAST 6 MONTHS AGO. >> OK, I'M GOING OFF A VOTE ON THAT MADE BY VICE PIER AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON VOICE VOTE VICE MAYOR. >> MAYER'S >> I MEAN, YES SAY YES, DO YES. >> COMMISSIONER EMRICH. >> A CASE THAT PASSES 5 TO 0. I THINK WE STILL NEED VOTE ON ACTUAL COMMEND MINUTES, ANYBODY WANT TO DO A >> I MOVE TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 13. >> WITH THE. >> MOTIONS PAST. EFFECTIVE DATE OF OCTOBER 2020 24. >> OKAY. PART THAT HAVE ADOPT THE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 13 AS AMENDED BY THE PRIOR MOTIONS WITH AN EFFECTIVE DATE OF OCTOBER 28TH 2024. >> ALL RIGHT SO THAT WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR STEPS RIGHT. LIKE DEJA VU. YOU'RE WHATEVER. ALL RIGHT IF THERE'S NOTHING LET'S DO A VOICE VOTE VICE MAYOR VICE MAYOR S THERE'S A YES LANGDON SAY DOLLARS AND NO. COMMISSIONER >> YES. >> OKAY, SO THAT PASSES 4 TO OR 2, 1, 4, EYE TOOTH THE TIME I GOT I HAD I SEE AND I STAYED THERE LIKE TO SPEAK TO MY REASON FOR DISSENSION YES, GO AHEAD. I HAVE 10 REASONS WHY DISSENTED I HAVE PLENTY MORE ABOUT I HAVE PLENTY MORE REASONS. A LOT MORE THAN 10. THESE ARE MY TOP 10. THE CITIZENS ARE NOT BEING NOTIFIED THAT THEIR PROPERTIES BEING RESOLVED PRIOR TO THIS ADOPTION. THIS IS WRONG. THIS IS EGREGIOUS AND IT JUST CREATES MORE DISTRUST BETWEEN GOVERNMENT AND OUR CITIZENS. THERE ARE MANY UNSUSPECTING VACANT PROPERTIES THAT WILL NOT BE PERMITTED TO BUILD A HOME ON THEIR PROPERTY, THIS CREATES A HARDSHIP FOR THOSE EXISTING AND FUTURE PROPERTY OWNERS AND THIS IS NOT AN IMAGE I WANT FOR MY CITY NOW OR EVEN IN THE FUTURE. DEVELOPMENTS WILL NO LONGER BE APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION OR WITH THE INPUT OF THE CITIZENS DEVELOPMENTS WILL BE APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY BY STAFF WHICH NOW REMOVES THOSE CHECKS AND BALANCES REGARDLESS IF THEY WERE A 100% ACCORDING TO CODE. THE PROPOSED LAND USE FOR ACTIVITY CENTER 70. THE 68 SURROUNDING THE WARM MINERAL SPRINGS. IT HIGH DENSITY HIGH INTENSITY DEVELOPMENT. GENERALLY VARIANCES AND MODIFICATIONS TO THE CODE WILL NOT BE APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION BUT BY ZONING HEARING OFFICER OR ADMINISTRATIVELY BY STAFF. IT'S ALSO REMOVES NEIGHBORHOOD AND CITIZEN INPUT. THERE ARE TOO MANY INSTANCES WHERE THE INTENT OF THE CODE DOES NOT TO MATCH THE WRITTEN WORDS WITHIN THE CODE. THIS CREATES UNCERTAINTY AND LACKS CLARITY. DECISION SHOULD BE MADE WITH ACTUAL DATA AND EVIDENCE THE DECISION TO REZONE THOUSANDS OF PROPERTIES WAS DRIVEN WITHOUT ANY DATA. STATISTICS YET WE WILL BE DESTROYING EXISTING PROPERTIES AND NEIGHBORHOODS. HAVE THESE AND OTHER REVENUES COLLECTED WILL NEVER BE ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS NECESSARY FOR THE CITYWIDE REZONING AND THESE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS. THERE IS NO REFERENCING THE PROPERTY IDENTIFICATION NUMBERS BEING REZONED. WE RECENTLY MANY PARCELS TO ACCOMMODATE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS WITH 0 2 VERY LITTLE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THOSE PARCELS WHICH DEFEATS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE CITYWIDE REZONING. I'VE SAID MY PIECE THIS MATTER IS VOTED ON THIS MATTER IS CLOSED. SO I WILL USE ALL PHRASE MCDOWELL PUT A SOCK IN IT. TERM SEE WITH HIM ARE WRESTLING HERE. I THANK WHAT IS THE WILL OF BOARD DO WANT TO MOVE IT TO BREAK BREAK. OKAY, IT'S 10 MINUTES. OKAY, SO WE'LL COME BACK AT >> HAVE FUN WITH IT MAKING YOUR OWN IT'S NOT SCARY. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE INTIMIDATING AT ALL YOU'RE USING YOUR BODY WEIGHT USING THE ANGLES THAT YOU CHOOSE TO USE ON THE MAN'S AND IT JUST VARIES WITH HOW YOU'RE COMFORTABLE AND HOW YOU'RE FEELING WHEN YOU'RE HERE. >> STARTED CHARLOTTE COUNTY UTILITIES AS A METER READER IN 2004. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I GOT MY FOOT IN THE DOOR AND WANT REACH A POINT MY LIFE OR THINGS ARE MORE STABLE AND I DECIDED TO LEAVE CHARLOTTE COUNTY UTILITIES. AND I WENT AND GOT MY INTERNS LICENSE THOSE VERY EXCITING DOING THAT FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, BUT AFTER A WHILE I STARTED THINKING ABOUT THE UTILITY. IT WAS IN MY HEART AT THIS POINT I HAD ALMOST 12 JUST 2 MONTHS, SHY OF 12 YEARS AND AND SO I REALIZED DURING THAT TIME. MY HEART WAS IN UTILITIES AND SO I STARTED LOOKING AROUND AGAIN I THINK OPENING HERE TO BE SEEING IN THE TECH SO I APPLIED AND I GOT IN TYPICALLY I GET HERE AT 7 IN THE MORNING. I GET MY LIST YOU KNOW IF I CAN GET TO THIS THIS IS WHAT I NEED TO DO AND. >> I GET IN MY TRUCK IF I NEED ANY SUPPLIES PARTS TOOLS BASED OFF OF THE WORK I WAS GIVEN THAT MORNING, I'LL PICK THAT UP HERE AT OUR SHOP AND THEN I HEAD OUT IN THEM. MICHAEL FOR THE DAYS TO GET AS MUCH WORK AS THAT WAS ASSIGNED TO DONE AS POSSIBLE. AND SOMETIMES THAT HAPPENS AND OTHER TIMES THERE'S A LOT OF FIRST RESPONSE CALLS THAT COME IN MY FAVORITE PART IS THE UNIQUENESS NOT KNOWING WHAT I'M GOING TO BE FACED WITH EVERY DAY IT COULD BE DIFFERENT. IT'S NOT MUNDANE ANYWAY. >> AND IT'S EXCITING WHEN YOU GET A CALL AND YOU'RE YOU'RE ON YOUR WAY YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS AND YOU YOU HAVE THE EXPERIENCE AND THE KNOW-HOW AND THE BACKING TO FACE WHATEVER IT'S GOING TO BE SO I FEEL VERY CONFIDENT IN FACING THESE CALLS AND I THINK THAT'S PART. >> HI I MALAYNIA THIS IS ANSWERS WITH ELENA AND I'M GOING TO ANSWER ALL OF YOUR FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS. ♪ TOO MANY PEOPLE HERE WHY HASN'T THE CITY STOPPED PEOPLE AND BUSINESSES FROM BUILDING IN NORTH PORT THE SHORT ANSWER IS WE CAN'T IF SOMEONE IS HAS AND THEY COMPLY WITH THE ZONING AND THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN ♪ STATE LAW MANDATES THAT WE ALLOW THEM TO BUILD. FLORIDA IS A VERY INTENSIVE PROPERTY RIGHTS STATE SO WHAT WE CAN DO IS MAKE SURE THAT THEY COMPLY WITH ORDINANCES. PORT WAS ALWAYS EXPECTED TO GROW FROM ITS INCEPTION WITH ALL OF THE LOTS LAID-OUT AND SOLD OFF TO INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS. NORTH PORT WAS EXPECTED TO HAVE A POPULATION AROUND 270,000 PEOPLE WITH ULDC THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY WRITING WE PROJECT THAT THAT NUMBER WILL FALL ABOUT 250,000 PEOPLE AS LONG AS SOMEONE IS COMPLYING WITH OUR CODES THEY ARE ALLOWED TO BUILD. BUT WE WANT TO ENSURE BUT THAT BUILDING THAT THEY DO WILL BE BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY AND ITS RESIDENTS. HI I MALAYNIA THIS IS ANSWERS WITH ELENA AND I'M GOING TO ANSWER ALL OF YOUR FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS. WHY ISN'T THE CITY WORKING TO BRING IN NEW AND INTERESTING BUSINESSES WE ARE. MOST LARGER BUSINESSES ARE LOOKING FOR A CERTAIN DENSITY FOR POPULATION AND MEDIAN ♪ HOUSEHOLD INCOME. NORTH PORT IS ON THE CUSP OF HITTING BOTH OF ♪ THOSE TARGETS. MANY COMPANIES WANT TO SEE A MEDIAN INCOME OF $75,000 PER HOUSEHOLD NORTH PORT JUST HIT 78,000 ADDITIONALLY MANY COMPANIES WANT TO ENSURE THERE IS LEAST A 100,000 PEOPLE WITHIN A SPECIFIC RADIUS OF WHERE THEY'RE LOOKING TO LOCATE. NORTH PORT. IT'S JUST UNDER 100,000 AT APPROXIMATELY 93,000 AS OF 2024. SO WE ARE VERY CLOSE TO ADDITIONALLY NORTH PORT HAS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIVISION THAT IS RECRUITING AND TALKING WITH BUSINESSES EVERY SINGLE DAY FOR SMALL BUSINESSES NORTH PORT LOVES ITS MOM AND POPS WE HAVE A LOT OF RESTAURANTS THAT START OUT AS FOOD TRUCKS AND MANY INTERESTING STORES THAT STARTED IN SOMEONE'S GARAGE OR ON THEIR DINING ROOM TABLE WE ARE VERY BUSINESS FRIENDLY. AND WE WANT TO HELP OUR SMALL BUSINESSES GROW AND THRIVE WE HAVE A TEAM DEDICATED TO ENSURING OUR BUSINESSES IN PORT HAVE THE RESOURCES THEY NEED IN ORDER TO HAVE A LONG AND PRODUCTIVE FUTURE IN OUR CITY. HI I MALAYNIA THIS IS ANSWERS WITH ELENA AND I'M GOING TO ANSWER ALL OF YOUR FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS. CAN A BUSINESS BE BUILT RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO MY HOME. IT'S A PENCE ONE OF THE BIGGEST FACTORS IS HOW MUCH LAND DOES THAT PROPERTY OWNER, HALF IN ORDER FOR SOMEONE TO PUT NEW DEVELOPMENT ON PROPERTY THEY HAVE TO HAVE ENOUGH LAND FOR PARKING BUFFERS STORM WATER TREE CONSERVATION AND ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT GO INTO BUILDING A NEW FACILITY THAT'S GOING TO MEAN THAT SOMEONE IS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO COME IN AND PUT A NEW BUSINESS ON A QUARTER ACRE LOT RIGHT NEXT TO YOUR HOME THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE LAND THAN THAT BUSINESSES ALSO TYPICALLY LIKE TO HAVE FRONTAGE ON A MAIN ROAD SO ANY BUSINESS THAT COMES IN IT'S GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR THAT ACCESS. THAT MAY MEAN THAT THEY HAVE TO BUY NUMEROUS LOTS IN ORDER TO HAVE ENOUGH LAND TO DEVELOP AND TO GET THE ACCESS ON THE MAIN ROADS THAT THEY WANT THE ULDC REWRITE THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY DRAFTING HAS PROTECTIONS FOR CURRENT RESIDENTS. SO THAT IF A BUSINESS DOES LOCATE NEAR YOUR HOME. WE WILL HAVE ADEQUATE BUFFERS AND PROTECTIONS TO ENSURE THAT YOU CAN STILL ENJOY YOUR QUALITY OF LIFE. >> DECIDED TO BECOME A FIREFIGHTER USED TO WORK HOSPITALITY AND GROUP SALES AND I ALWAYS HAD FRIENDS THAT WORK. FIREFIGHTERS AND I DECIDED ONE DAY THAT I WANTED MY JOB AND PEOPLE SO. >> I WENT AHEAD UT AND PARAMEDIC PROGRAM WITH THE FIRE ACADEMY. SAW NORTH WE'RE HIRING AND REALLY LIKED WHAT THEY HAD ON THEIR BETWEEN THEIR ISO RATING BELIEFS AND VALUES AND EVERYTHING 5, THEY GAVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY EVERY DAY IS DIFFERENT BUT FOR THE MOST PART WE START OFF THE SAME. ♪ WHAT WAS GET OUR YEAR ONTO THE. BRAD US MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S OPERATIONAL AND OUR ♪ AIR BACK. ALSO CHECKED INVENTORY. MAKE SURE WE HAVE ALL OUR MEDICAL EQUIPMENT. EVERYTHING'S THAT WAY YOU CAN RESPOND TO ANY EMERGENCY SO WE'RE ALWAYS STOCKED AND READY TO I THINK THE BEST PART IS THAT EVERYONE'S PASSION ABOUT THEIR JOB. >> SO THEY COME TO WORK AND THEY'RE READY TO TRAIN AND TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER AND TEACH EACH OTHER SO EVERYONE SHARPENED ON THEIR A GAME SO IT MAKES IT OFTEN AND I JUST LOOK FORWARD TO COME TO WORK. >> ALWAYS GET VERY EXCITED WHEN ANYBODY ASKS ME ABOUT MY JOB IN WHERE I WORK AND WHAT I DO IT'S NOT A SECRET THAT I LOVE WORKING FOR THE CITY OF NORTH PORT I WORKED FOR CHARLOTTE COUNTY AND I FELT THAT I NEEDED TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND I WANTED SOMETHING MORE AND I WANT OFFER MY SKILLS TO TELL MY FRIEND DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO AND I WAS THINKING ABOUT MY NEXT STEPS AND SHE SAID DID YOU THINK ABOUT APPLYING TO JOBS. THE CITY OF NORTH PORT THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT VIBE HERE AND SHE SAID LOVE IT AND I SAID I COULD THINK ABOUT THAT SO I APPLIED AND I STARTED MY FIRST POSITION IN A PLANNING AND ZONING IN OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT I'M PARTNERED WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. >> BECAUSE MY MIND THE FEES ARE ASSESSED OFF OF BUILDING PERMITS AND IT'S STRICTLY FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION, NEW DEVELOPMENT. AND THE FIRST THING I DO IS TO CHECK THE SPREADSHEET TO LOOK AT THE PERMITS AND DETERMINED WHICH ONES NEED ME TO ESTIMATE THEIR IMPACT FEES AND THAT'S START WITH THAT THEN I GO TO NUMBERS THAT I HAVE TO PUT TOGETHER AND I PUT TOGETHER INVOICES FOR DEVELOPERS OFTEN TIMES GET PHONE CALL TO GET VOTES BEFORE THE DEVELOPMENT COMES THROUGH AND SO DEVELOPERS WANT TO KNOW HOW MUCH THEY CAN. >> BUDGET FOR SOMETIMES I PUT PROPOSED ESTIMATE TO HELP THEM LIKE THAT. ♪ ♪ THE BULK OF IT IS IT'S MAKING SURE THAT THE FEES ARE IN THE SYSTEM FAST AS POSSIBLE I LOVE THE ESPRIT DE CORPS THAT EXPERIENCE. JUST HOW EVERYBODY TEAMWORK TOGETHER ENJOY KNOWING THAT I CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE FOR THE CITY AND THAT MY POSITION CAN HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT FOR OUR CITY. ♪ ALWAYS INTERESTED IN PORT. >> HERE TODAY, WITH MARY OF AND ANY PLAYER SCHEDULE FOR THE CITY OF NORTH PORT SOLID WASTE DIVISION WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT PICKUPS TODAY. I HAD A SCHEDULED VOTE PICKUPS WHAT SHOULD GO OUT AND WHAT SHOULD NOT GO OUT TO THE CURRENT WHERE TO PLACE THE ITEM TO THEM WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN WHAT A LOT OF CHIEF OF THE YEAR PICK UP. SO I KNOW WE CALL 9, 4, 1, 2, 4, 0, 8, 0, 50 TALK TO OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE REPS HAD A SCHEDULED VOTE PICKUP HOW ELSE CAN WE DO THAT. >> CAN ALSO GO ON A WEBSITE NORTH PORT FL DOT CLICK ON SOLID WASTE AND FILL OUT A BULK REQUEST FOR EXCELLENT EXCELLENT SCENARIO WHEN IN DOUBT. >> IF A PERSON WANTS PLAY SET OUT WHAT SHOULD TAKE PLACE OUT. >> WHAT'S RIGHT THING WAS THE WRONG THING BASICALLY FRANK ANYTHING THAT DIDN'T 51 AND CURRENTLY CHARGED COMMISSIONER ELRICH ARE YOU THERE. >> YES, MA'AM OKAY. >> I WAS JUST LOOKING AT EVERYTHING WE'VE GOT LEFT. ♪ ♪ >> THAT SOUNDS LIKE YOU OKAY WE'RE MOVING ITEM D. >> WAS NUMBER 2020 FORECAST, 14 CITY CLERK, AND YOU READ THIS BY TITLE ONLY ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 14 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY IN NORTH PORT FLORIDA REPEALING CHAPTER 29 AND THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE RELATING TO SIGN REGULATIONS AND CREATING NEW CHAPTER 5 PROVIDING FINDINGS PROVIDING COMPLEX PROVIDING SEVERABILITY PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> I THANK YOU. CITY MANAGER THIS IS YOUR ITEM. >> THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR OUT ITEM IS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE YOU KNOW ABOUT IT MY WAY IN DEVELOPMENT CODE RELATING TO SIGNED RELATING CREATING A NEW CHAPTER FOR SIGNS. ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING PROVIDE FOR THE REMOVAL OF SIGNS. BOTH GREAT FROM. I IT ALSO SUMMER. THAT AFTER THE CITY COMMISSION APPROVED ORDINANCE NUMBER DASH 4 TEAM ON THE SECOND THANK >> ALL RIGHT, THANK LET'S GET MYSELF SETTLED HERE >> I MOVE ING OUT TO COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. >> YES, MAYOR I DID NOT MENTION THAT STARTING FIRST BEING BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF OTHER DISCUSSION CODE AND I DIDN'T WANT TO GET IF YOU GO TO SECTION C ON PAGE 10. >> IT SAYS ABOUT CONSTRUCTED WITHOUT THE FOLLOWING CHARACTERISTICS AND FUNCTIONS AND STATES D OBSCENE OR INDECENT IN DESIGN DISPLAY STATEMENT CHARACTER ILLUSTRATION. >> I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHO DETERMINES WHAT OBSCENE AND WHAT IS IN DECENT AND WHAT IS THAT. MECHANISM TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION. >> CAN. I LARRY ON THE TOWN. >> ALL RIGHT JON AND DIRECTOR ACTUALLY THIS TO COME OFF FIRST READING. AND OUR OUTSIDE COUNSEL. >> HAS REVIEWED THE USE OF THE WORD AND THIS ACTION UP CODE. SHE HAS INDICATED THAT IT IS THAT THE COMMISSION'S DISCRETION AS TO WHETHER THEY RETAIN THE LANGUAGE OR REMOVED THE LANGUAGE AS FAR AS ENFORCEMENT OF ANY OBSCENITY AND SIGNAGE IT JUST FALLS TO THE SUPREME COURT'S DEFINITION UP CD WHICH IS VERY STRICT. BASICALLY IT'S TO BE THE OFFENSIVE. YOU KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE POLITICAL SIGNS WITH THE FACTS AND HAVE AND IN A NAME THAT DOES NOT RISE TO THE LEVEL OF OBSCENE. NOW IF WE HAD A. SIGNED WITH SEXUAL CONTACT. WE RECEIVED A COMPLAINT TO PALM. WE WOULD IMMEDIATELY GO TO OUR COUNCIL AND FOLLOW WITH THEM AS TO A DETERMINATION OF WHETHER THE SIGNAGE ROSE TO THE LEVEL ALL SANITY AND OR THE SUPREME COURT DECISIONS BEFORE WE AND THAT BEFORE WE ACTED ON ANY ENFORCEMENT. >> MARRIAGE IS FIRMLY BELIEVE WE SHOULD JUST TAKE IT OUT OF THE CODE. THERE'S NO REASON TO HAVE IT IN THERE. >> COMMISSIONER CAN THOUGH WHERE IT IS AGAIN. >> THE MEMBERS LETTER ACTUALLY LINE FOR 10 OF THE FIRST READING DOCUMENT PREGNANT AND SECTION. >> OR STRAWS 5 ONE WON. >> C 6. >> OKAY DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION PAGE 10 PAGE JEN THANK YOU. >> FOR THAT WE HAVE ANY OTHER. DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT. I WOULD JUST MAKE A AND THE GUARDRAILS ARE PRETTY LOOSE ON THIS ONE. BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE IT IN THERE. AND WE HAVE NO RECOURSE I MEAN ARE OUR OPTIONS ARE LIMITED WHEN IT COMES TO THIS BECAUSE THE SUPREME COURT HAS WEIGHED >> I WOULD BE MORE COMFORTABLE HAVING THE LANGUAGE AND GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY. TO ADDRESS AN EGREGIOUS ISSUE. BUT I AGREE THAT THE SUPREME COURT WILL MAKE IT VERY DIFFICULT. 2. AND FOR US AND THE THING THIS AREA. I HAVE A QUESTION. FOR CLARITY THIS IS IN AND SECTION. >> SAY WHEN 3.92. AND THAT GOES DOWN 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, MINE THAT RIGHT SECTION AS YOU ARE YES CONTINUE DOWN TO DO YOU KNOW THOSE. >> ARE NOT JUST APPLICABLE TO. >> THE WIND 3.93 THAT SAYS. AVERAGE HIGHS. THOSE PRODUCTS OR SERVICES OFFERED OR CARRY ON AT THE PREMISES WHERE THE SITE IS LOCATED. PROVIDED THE SIGNS ARE AND THEN IT HAS. >> THOSE. STIPULATIONS THERE SO DOES NOT JUST APPLY TO WHAT IS. >> MENTIONED AND SEE. REQUIRE ANSWERS AT ANY SIGN DIDN'T READ THAT IS ANY SIGN ANYWHERE. CITY ATTORNEY. INTERPRETING THAT CORRECTLY. >> AND THEN I WOULD DEFER TO YOUR PLANNING STAFF AS THEY WORK DIRECTLY WITH SPECIAL COUNSEL HOLE AND AFTER SIGNS ARE AND THEN IT LISTS EVERYTHING I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST TENDING TO. >> THE PARAGRAPH THAT IS THAT'S AT 3.93. >> MADAM MAYOR KNOW IT APPLIES TO ANY SIGN THAT IS VISIBLE FROM PUBLIC RIGHT OF OKAY. ACTUALLY A SEPARATE OKAY ALL THE CODE PROVISIONS REGARDING SIGNAGE IT SIGNS THAT VISIBLE ON THE PUBLIC OKAY. >> THAT WAS LET'S START WITH THAT CONTENT THAT I THOUGHT THAT THAT JUST THAT'S TALKING ABOUT HER SENTENCE, BUT IT'S NOT OK AND AND I AGREE I WOULD JUST REFER TO WHAT THE SPRING PARTIES ARE READY. >> DECIDED ON AND I I KNOW THAT VERY WELL BEING A CHILD OF THE 60'S AND 70'S YOEST ABOUT THE FIRST THAT HAS TO BE TO STICK 2 CONDITIONS MET FOR SOMETHING TO BE CONSIDERED OBSCENE. I'M NOT GOING TO ARGUE WITH THE SUPREME COURT. THAT'S MY TAKE ON THAT. >> COMMISSIONER AVERAGE YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD BEFORE WE GO 2 MAYBE A SECOND ROUND. COMMISSIONER DOUBT. >> I JUST FEEL THAT NEEDS TO BE REMOVED BECAUSE BY HAVING IT IN THERE ANYBODY CAN READ IT AND THEN SAY HEY THIS IS OBSCENE AND THEN WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH EVERYTHING AND GO THROUGH ALL JUMP THROUGH THOSE HOOPS AND STUFF. I'M JUST BY HAVING IT REMOVED THIS ENTIRE CODE IS PROTECTING FREEDOM OF SPEECH THAT'S THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE COVERT GREAT THING. AND I THINK THAT IT'S STEPPING AN AREA THAT WE REALLY SHOULDN'T BE STEPPING IN AND STAFF IS ALREADY SAID THAT SPECIAL COUNSEL SAID THAT IT'S UP TO US TO KEEP IT IN OR TAKE IT OUT. THERE'S NO HARM. NO FOUL. I'M HEARING NO HARM. NO FOUL BY TAKING IT OUT. I THINK KIDS. IT IS GIVING. THE TEETH THAT IS NECESSARY IN THE REST OF THE COLD NOT JUST THIS ONE SENTENCE BECAUSE OBSCENE AND INDECENT IS ONLY MENTIONED ONCE IN THE CODE AND THAT'S GREAT HERE. AND I WOULD HATE TO HAVE. ANY STAFFER. >> GO MY GOSH THAT IS OBSCENE THAT NEEDS TO BE REMOVED AND REMOVE THE SIGN. HELLO LAWSUIT. AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WANT TO SUBJECT THE CITY TOO. >> AND ITS STAFF CONCURS I REALLY WISH THAT THEY WOULD COME UP GIVE A RECOMMENDATION TO THIS COMMISSION TO REMOVE IT OR TO LEAVE IT IN I KNOW IT'S AT OUR DISCRETION. I SAY TAKE IT OUT. >> LATER A DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES STAFF HAS NO OBJECTION TO TAKING OUT. >> WE WE UNDERSTAND THE. >> FIRST AMENDMENT ISSUES OUR LEGAL COUNSEL. >> IS HAS SAID THAT IT IS IT IS A POLICY DECISION BUT I THINK THAT THEY WOULD HAVE NO OBJECTIONS TO US TAKING IT OUT AS WELL. >> I HAVE QUESTION IF I'M A YES, NO STAFF. >> THERE ANY DOWNSIDES TO ARE TAKING IT OUT AND AND AGAIN MY MY SENSE WAS THAT WOULD NOT BE UP TO THE ARBITRARY DISCRETION OF A STAFF MEMBER TO DEFINE SAME, WE WOULD NEED TO THE FALL TO THE SUPREME COURT. WELL BUT IS THERE ANY POTENTIAL DOWNSIDE TO REMOVING IT. >> THE LANGUAGE TO SEND A MESSAGE WHETHER AN INDIVIDUAL UNDERSTANDS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN. >> COMMONLY UNDERSTOOD OBSCENITY BY COMMUNITY MEMBERS VERSUS THE SUPREME COURT. DEFINITION OF SCENE IS THE QUESTION OF NOT. >> OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF. IT HAS HAS IT THAT IF THERE ARE. >> THESE. >> PROFANITIES. >> FINANCE THAT THEY COMMENT THEY ARE VERY WELL INFORMED. >> WE WILL CONTINUE TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE WELL INFORMED. AND IF THERE WERE A SIGN THAT. ROSE ABOUT THAT LEVEL. I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT A CODE VIOLATION NOTICE WOULD NOT BE WRITTEN AND TELL DIRECTOR RAY. OR ARE NEW ASSISTANT DIRECTOR. WERE CONSULTED. DEFINITELY FIRST AND 14TH AMENDMENT. WITH SIGNAGE AND AS MATTER OF FACT OUR OUTSIDE COUNSEL NOT A RECOMMENDATION ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, I'M HER ONLY COMMENTARY WAS IF WE WORKED REALLY IT, I'VE SEEN. THAT PARTICULAR PROVISION THAT WE NOT TO FIND AND WE NOT ATTEMPT TO ADMINISTER. APPLICATION OF OBSCENITY LOCALLY. >> AND WHAT HAVE THERE. YEAH. ♪ ♪ >> IF THE CONVERSATION IS THERE'S NO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON >> MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE ITEM FROM SECTION 5 0.1 0.1. >> SCENE. SINKS. D. >> REMOVING THE SENTENCE IN ITS ENTIRETY OBSCENE OR INDECENT DESIGN DISPLAY. STATEMENT CHARACTER OR ILLUSTRATION. YOU KNOW SECOND IT. >> I HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL TO REMOVE. >> FENTON'S BOUND AND SECTIONS GENERAL REQUIREMENT NUMBER 6. >> THE WINDY. >> DEALING WITH OBSCENE OR INDECENT AND DESIGNED TO STATEMENT CHARACTER ILLUSTRATION AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR. VICE MAYOR. >> IT'S AMAZING. YES. >> I WAS STARTING A LIKE THAT'S NOT WHAT I THOUGHT YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL N. >> I NEAR THE YES MAYOR IS YES. I'M YES, BUT I DON'T LIKE IT. >> THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS REPORT DOES THAT WE DON'T MCDOWELL'S A YES COMMISSIONER AVERAGE. >> I MEAN YES ALL RIGHT SO THAT PASSES 5 TO 0. >> ALL RIGHT AND I JUST HAVE TO MAKE A COMMENT. >> IT'S JUST A VERY SAD STATE OF AFFAIRS THAT COMMUNITY CANNOT SET LIMITS. IT IS A VERY VERY SAD STATE OF AFFAIRS SO THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY. >> YES YOU READ RE YOU I I AGREE IDENTITY. >> PEOPLE MY STUDENTS SELF-CONTROL IT WOULD HAVE TO HAVE TOO MANY RULES AND SO THAT WAS A A MOTION TO TAKE OUT THAT LINE CORRECT. RIGHT SO WE STILL A MOTION TO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE WITH THAT. NOW OF GET THAT A CORRECT I ALREADY TURNED MY PAGE THAT WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC I MOVE TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 14. >> REMOVING THE REFERENCE TO OBSCENE HAND ACTIONABLE WAS THAT THE LANGUAGE. A LINE OF TEXT REFERRING TO OBSCENE CONTENT. >> ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 14 WITH THE AMENDMENT THAT WAS MADE TO REMOVE LINE. AND THAT SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER NOTHING ELSE WILL DO A VOICE. VICE MAYOR. >> IT IS YES. >> THEY ARE THANK SAY, YES COMMISSIONER AVERAGE. >> OKAY SO THAT. >> PASSES 5 TO 0. >> LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM E ORLEANS 24 DASH 15. CITY JUST BY TITLE ONLY. >> IT'S NUMBER 2024 DASH 15 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY IN NORTH PORT FLORIDA RELATING TO THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP REPEALING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2010 DASH 15 AND THE OFFICIAL ZONING AMENDMENT ADOPTING A NEW OFFICIAL ZONING MAP PURSUANT TO CHAPTER ONE ARTICLE 2 SECTION 2001.3. THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS PROVIDING FOR COMPLEX PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> THANK YOU CITY CLERK CITY MANAGER YOUR ITEM. >> THIS SHOW. DON'T KNOW THE CITY WHERE THIS I DON'T LIKE WITH 6 WE ASK THAT YOU APPROVE THE ORDINANCE NUMBER 20 24. THAT'S 15% THANK. >> MOVING ON TO COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS. >> I DON'T THINK IT'S SAYING LITTLE BATTERY. I WANT TO GO TO PLANT TOTALLY BUT. >> ALL RIGHT DO I HAVE ANY. >> COMMENTS. QUESTIONS ON >> COMMISSIONER HEMORRHAGE DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >> NO MA'AM. >> WE HAVE THE PUBLIC COMMENT ON >> I'M SORRY IF TO MAYOR RAHM. ♪ BUT NUMBER 2024 DASH 15 I STRONGLY OPPOSE THE REZONING FROM OF CHAMBERLAIN FROM SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES I UNDERSTAND THAT CHAMBERLAIN HAS BEEN PLANNED AS A MAJOR ROAD AND WILL BE EXPANDED AT SOME POINT IN TIME. >> TODAY A MULTI LANE ROAD LATER I HAD MENTIONED THAT THE NORTH PORT FORWARD MEANING THAT SHE FELT PEOPLE WOULD NOT WANT TO LIVE ON A MULTI-LANE ROAD. SO IT WAS THAT'S TO INCLUDE SMALL BUSINESSES CHAMBERLAIN NOT JUST SINGLE-FAMILY HOME BUILDING. THERE ARE MANY HOMES CHAMBER LAND AND THE REZONING WILL INCREASE TRAFFIC TO WHERE IT WILL BE A CHALLENGE FOR THOSE OF US LIVING FOR CHAMBERLAIN TO GET TO AND FROM THEIR HOMES. I KNOW IMPORTANCE INCREASE THE NUMBER OF BUSINESSES TO HELP WITH THE TAX BASE. BUT HAS STUDY BEEN DONE TO SEE HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL MONEY THE CITY WOULD GET FROM BUSINESSES AND CHAMBERLAIN AND DOESN'T JUSTIFY THE LOSS OF ENJOYMENT AND ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC BURDEN THAT PEOPLE BOTH ON AND OFF CHAMBERLAIN WELL CHEAP. DUE TO THIS REZONING. JUST ABOUT CONVERSATION AND DISCUSSION WITHOUT BETWEEN THE ELECTED AND THE ELECTORATE AT THESE MEETINGS WILL BE THERE IN PERSON BUT SINCE THAT IS UNIQUELY PROHIBITED PORT CITY HALL MEETINGS. THIS ONLINE COMMENTARY WILL SUFFICE MY FAMILY AND I AND ALL NEIGHBORS OPPOSED TO THE REZONING SCHEME FOR THE ENTIRE CITY, TURNING BOULEVARDS IN THE CORRIDORS OF HIGH-DENSITY DEVELOPMENT IZICK SPECIALLY OUTRAGEOUS AND WILL RUIN NOW QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT PROPERTY VALUES AND HOMEOWNERS AS A 4TH GENERATION FLORIDIAN I'M DISGUSTED BY THE LACK OF RESPECT FOR THE PEOPLE AND NATURAL RESOURCES OF THE CITY THAT IS REGULATION BY THE CITY GOVERNMENT HERE OF COURSE ALL THE COMMISSIONERS TO VOTE FOR THIS SHOULD BE VOTED OUT THAT I'M BACK IN A LOT OF WILL BE VOTING WITH FEET AS WELL. AND PERSON I HAVE RON DESANTIS ENGLISH. PEOPLE >> GOOD EVENING AGAIN UP AND SAID >> I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF I SHOULD EVEN SPEAK TO WHAT I WAS GOING TO SPEAK THOMAS ON MAPS AND PAST 8. ORDINANCE 2024 13, WHICH IS BASICALLY REZONING OUR CITY. I FEEL I'M WASTING MY BREATH. I MEAN I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THE CITY IS GROWING. I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR THE BALANCE OF COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL. HOWEVER, AGAIN YOU'RE GOING INTO AREAS THAT YOU SHOULDN'T BE GOING INTO A REZONING. AND THAT IS ESPECIALLY IN SPECIFICALLY THE CORRIDORS. IT'S NOT NEED TO GO THAT THERE WAS SO MUCH LAND WITHIN A CITY. THAT CAN BE LEAVES ON THAT YOU ARE REZONING WHO THE ACTIVITY SENSE. IT'S A GREAT TO KINDS OF WONDERFUL. YOU DON'T NEED TO IMPEDE FURTHER INTO RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE YOU DOING. I MEAN WHERE WHERE DOES IT END DOES IT EVER END. OR DOES IT JUST KEEP CONTINUING TO WE JUST ARE TOTALLY SPRAWLED OUT. AND A CONCRETE JUNGLE. WITH JUST MAYBE A LITTLE PERCENTAGE OF GREEN SPACE. THAT'S MY CONCERN AND I JUST KEEP GETTING UP HERE AND. FEEL EVERYTHING'S JUST GOING INTO LA LA LAND. YOU'RE LOOKING AT ME LISTENING TO ME BUT. IT DOESN'T MATTER. AND THAT'S WHY YOU'VE GOT AN EMPTY ROOM. BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THE PEOPLE FEEL. NOTHING SAY MATTERS. >> SO I'VE GOT NOTHING ON THE ZONE MATTER ANYMORE. >> THANK YOU MISS ROBIN. OKAY, CLOSING PUBLIC HEARING AND LOOKING FOR MOTION. >> MAKE A MOTION GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 15 AS PRESENTED. >> ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 15 AS PRESENTED AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE VOTE. VICE MAYOR. YES. THERE IS A YES LINE DIDN'T SAY. YES AND COMMISSIONER ELRICH. OKAY THAT PASSES 4 TO 0 OR TO WANT THAT. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER DOW. >> THAT'S I HEAR THINK IRAN, I'M LOOKING AT THE >> JUST HAVE IN MY HEAD. >> BEEN DOING THAT A LOT I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT MOVING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 6 TEENS CITY CLERK AND YOU'RE IN THIS BY TITLE ONLY DISCOVER 2024 DASH 16 ORDINANCE OF THE CITY IN NORTH PORT FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF THE CITY AND FLORIDA SECTION 2.8 2. >> PLUS ADDITIONAL MATTERS TO RIDE FOR CONSISTENCY WITH THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS PROVIDING FOR COMPLEX PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> AND TO CITY MANAGER THIS IS YOUR ITEM. >> THANK YOU DECIDE ARE WE NEED TO GO TO THE CITY OF NORTH PORT FLORIDA ACCEPTING 2.8 TO REQUIRE THAT ADDITIONAL MATTERS WAS HEARD FOR THE COMMISSION ON JULY 23RD CONTINUE TO THE SECOND ORDINANCE READING WELL TODAY THE 6. WE ASK THAT YOU APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 TO 16 AS WE TO THAT THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU LOOKING FOR COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS. >> SEEING COMMISSIONER MUCH TO DO ANYTHING. THANK YOU. >> ANY PUBLIC COMMENT THERE ISN'T ALL RIGHT SOME CLOSING THIS PORTION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AND LOOKING FOR MOTION THEY CAN GO AHEAD VICE MAYOR MOVE TO ORDINANCE NUMBER 2, 0, 2, 4 DASH 1, 6 S PERCENT SECOND ALL RIGHT WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY VICE MAYOR STOW TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 20 20 FORD AT DASH 16 AS PRESENTED AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON THERE'S NOTHING ELSE THAT'S TO A VOICE VOTE. >> VICE MAYOR VICE MAYOR MAYOR ZS LANGDON YES. >> ALLEN YES, AND COMMISSIONER EMRICH TO LET THE DOGS OUT YES TO. >> IT'S QUOTE I LEFT MY GOD SO I COULD VOTE AND THEY CAME TO THE DOOR STARTED BARKING MY THAT I YOU ABOUT. I'M GOING TO VOTE. YES THERE'S OLD >> ALL RIGHT SO THAT PASSES 5 TO 0 YOU KNOW YOU'RE OK MOVING ON TO ITEM G ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 17. CITY CLERK TO BE BY TITLE ONLY. >> ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 17. ORDINANCE OF THE CITY AND OUR PORT FLORIDA AMENDING THE CODE OF THE CITY OF NORTH FLORIDA SECTION 2 DASH 5, 1, 1, RELATED TO FINES FOR TREE PROTECTION VIOLATIONS, WRITING FOR FINDINGS PROVIDING FOR COMPLEX PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE THANK YOU CITY MANAGER THIS IS YOUR ITEM. >> THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR THIS I KNOW IS AMENDING THE CODE OF THE CITY OF 4TH QUARTER, THE SECOND DASH 5 ONE WORLD. WAS PROTECT IN VIOLATIONS. THIS ITEM WAS DISCUSSED AT ITS PEAK. AT YOUR REGULAR MEETING WAY THERE. BORE ORDINANCE TO TODAY FOR SECOND READING THE 6TH PLACE WITH 4. WE ASKED CITY MISSION BORN IT'S BEEN BETWEEN 4 TO 17 AS PRESENTED. THANK >> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT LOOKING FOR ANY COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS. THIS ITEM. NOT SAYING ANY. COMMISSIONER EMERICH YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON ONE. >> NO MA'AM. >> THAT WAS RON ITEM G ALL RIGHT ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. ALL RIGHT SOME CLOSING THIS PORTION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AND HAVE A MOTION. >> MAKE VICE MAYOR MOVE TO ADOPT ORDINANCE 2024 17 ESTROGEN. >> THAT WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY VICE MAYOR STOKES TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 17 AS PRESENTED. THAT WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON IF THERE'S NOTHING FURTHER, LET'S DO A VOICE VOTE VICE MAYOR S MAYOR THE WELLINGTON YES MCDOWELL COMMISSIONER AVERAGE. YES ALL RIGHT THAT PASSES 5 TO 0. MOVING ON TO ITEM H ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 18. CITY CLERK COULD YOU READ THIS BY TITLE ONLY. >> ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 18 ORDINANCE OF THE CITY IN NORTH PORT FLORIDA AMENDING THE CODE OF THE CITY OF NORTH PORT FLORIDA TO UPDATE REFERENCES FOR CONSISTENCY WITH THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THEN CHAPTER 2 ARTICLE 4 DIVISION ONE PARENT OFFICERS AMENDING CHAPTER 4 BOARDS AND COMMITTEES TO ADDRESS COMMISSION LIAISONS AND ART ADVISORY BOARD MANY CHAPTER 22 ARTICLE TO FERTILIZERS AND LANDSCAPE MANAGEMENT MEANT AFTER 59 SECTION 59 DASH ONE PARKING AND STORAGE OF CERTAIN VEHICLES ON RESIDENTIAL LOTS RIGHT. THE FINDINGS RUN COMPLEX PROVIDING SEVERABILITY PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> ALL RIGHT THANK THAT A JUROR THIS YOUR ITEM. >> THIS TIME IT WAS GOING THEM THE CODE OF THE CITY OF NORTH PORT BIG PRESENCE IS FOR CONSISTENCY WITH THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT THE CITY COMMISSION FOR THE FIRST READING OF THIS OR AT ITS REGULAR MEETING JULY 23RD 2024 TO DOOR GETS A SECOND READING ON AUG 6 TODAY AS. WE HAVE TO THE CITY COMMISSION APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 23 PORT AS A TEAM TODAY IS PRESENT. >> OK MOVING ON TO ANY COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS. YES GO AHEAD. >> I HAVE NO QUESTIONS. ♪ ♪ >> OKAY. >> THANKS FOR SENDING ME THE TROUBLE OF ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. SOME CLOTHING THIS PORTION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AND LOOKING FOR MOTION AMERICA GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 18 AS PRESENTED. >> SECOND. I HAD A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON TO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 18 AS PRESENTED AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR STOKES. WE WILL DO A VOICE VOTE. >> VICE MAYOR VICE MAYOR C S. >> THERE'S SLAMMED AND YES DO. YES. YES, ALRIGHT, PASSES 5 TO SARAH. >> ALL RIGHT MOVING ON TO ITEM I. >> 24 DASH 2419. ANY PART DURING THIS BY TITLE ONLY WAY. >> ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 19 ORDINANCE OF THE FL REPEALING ARTICLE ONE SECTION 26 1926 DASH 2026 DASH 22, 3.26 DASH 35 CHAPTER 26 OF THE COVID THE CITY OF NORTH PORT FLORIDA LATE INTO FIRE PREVENTION AND PROTECTION AND AMENDING THE CODE OF THE CITY OF NORTH PORT FLORIDA SECTIONS 26 DASH ONE 26 DASH 2026 DASH 22 THROUGH 26 23 RELATING TO FIRE SAFETY AND PREVENTION PROVIDING DIRECTION FOR STATE FIRE MARSHAL REVIEW, PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS PROVIDING FOR COMPLEX PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING CODIFICATION PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> THANK YOU CITY MANAGER THIS IS YOUR ITEM. >> THEY COME EVERY YEAR THIS ORDINANCE IS WE BELITTLE ARTICLE SECTIONS 26 TO 1926, 2026 RANGES 2 2635 PROTECT THE 26 THOSE OF THE CITY OF PORTE CITY MISSION ARE THE FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 20 REPORT THAT'S 19 REGULAR MEETING ON JULY 23RD 2024 CONTINUE OR HAS BEEN SECOND READING ON AUGUST 6 OF 2024. CITY STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE THE CITY COMMISSION APPROVED GOING IS DASH 19 AS PRESENTED. THANK >> THANK YOU TO WE HAVE ANY COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER ELRICH. >> ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. IMPOSING THIS PUBLIC HEARING AND WITH THE PROMOTION OF MAKE VICE CHAIR I MOVE TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 19 AS PRESENTED. ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A. VICE MAYOR TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 19 AS PRESENTED AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL THERE'S NOTHING TO OF OYSTER BOAT. VICE MAYOR VICE MAYOR ZS THEY YES DO. YES. ALRIGHT, THAT PASSES 5 0. >> MOVING ON TO ITEM J ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 20. CLERK HE WITNESSED BY TITLE ONLY. >> THE 2024 DASH 20 AND ORDINANCE OF THE FL REPEALING SECTION 34 DASH ONE OF THE PART OF THE CITY OF NORTH PORT FLORIDA RELATING TO MOBILE FOOD VENDORS, PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS PROVIDING FOR COMPLEX PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION PROVIDING AN AFFECTED DATE. >> THANK YOU. >> ALRIGHT CITY MANAGER THIS IS YOUR ITEM. >> THIS ORTIZ REPEALING SECTION 34 DASHBOARD OF GO TO THE CITY OF PORT FLORIDA RELATED TO MOBILE FOOD VENDORS. ITEM. HER DURING FIRST READING JUST WANT GET YOUR REGULAR MEETING ON BOARD INTO HAS PRESENTED ITS SECOND READING ON AUGUST, THE 6TH OF 2024. WE HAVE THE CITY COMMISSION APPROVED FOR OR 3, 4 DASH 20 AS PRESENT IT, THANK >> THANK WE HAVE ANY COMMISSIONER QUESTION. COMMISSIONER EMRICH ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT. >> NO MA'AM OKAY. A PUBLIC COMMENT ALL. >> ALL RIGHT SOME POSING THIS PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS AND LOOKING FOR A MOTION. >> MAKE GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 20 AS PRESENTED. >> ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 20 AS PRESENTED AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR STOKES IT WILL DO A VOICE VOTE VICE MAYOR THIS MAYOR ZS LANGDON YES. WELL, YES, COMMISSIONER AVERAGE THANK ASSETS 5 TO 0. MOVING ON TO ITEM K 2024 DASH 21. A PARK WITH THIS BY TITLE ONLY ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 21 IN ORDINANCE TO THE CITY IN NORTH PORT FLORIDA AMENDING THE CODE OF THE CITY OF NORTH PORT FLORIDA TO UPDATE REFERENCES TO THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT IN CHAPTER 34 LICENSES PERMITS AND MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS REGULATIONS. >> ARTICLE 2 BUSINESS TAX RECEIPTS AND ARTICLE 4 ADULT ORIENTED BUSINESSES. BUT FOR FINDINGS PROVIDING FOR COMPLEX PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CODIFICATION AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. ALRIGHT CITY MANAGER THIS YOUR ITEM. >> THEY COME HERE I DON'T THIS THE CODE OF THE CITY OF NORTH PORT FLORIDA UPDATE REFERENCES TO THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT TEMPORARY OR. THE COMMISSION THIS I DO AT ITS REGULAR MEETING ON JULY 23RD REPORT CONTINUED ORDINANCE AS WRITTEN IN THE SECOND READING ON AUGUST 6 WHICH 4. YES, THE THE CITY COMMISSION APPROVED ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 FOR THAT FOR ONE HAS PRESENTED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. >> AND THE COMMISSION THIS COMMISSIONER EMRICH OK THANK YOU. >> YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO ASK EVERY SINGLE TIME ANY PUBLIC ALL RIGHT SOME POSING THIS PORTION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AND LOOKING FOR A MOTION MAKE IT GO AHEAD, VICE MAYOR MOVE TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 21 PERCENT THAT KIND AND THE MOTION MADE BY VICE MAYOR STOKES TO A DOT. ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 21 AS PRESENTED AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON WILL DO A VOICE VOTE VICE MAYOR. >> VICE MAYOR S MAYOR ZS LANGDON YES YES. I'M A YES ALRIGHT, THAT PASSES 5 TO 0. >> MOVING ON TO ITEM ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 22 CITY CLERK TAKEAWAY BURDENS NUMBER 2024 DASH 22 AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY IN NORTH PORT FLORIDA RELATING TO SOLID WASTE AMENDING THE CODE OF THE CITY OF NORTH PORT, FL CHAPTER 62 SOLID WASTE ARTICLE SPRING COLLECTION AND DISPOSAL TO CLARIFY DEFINITIONS AND UPDATE REFERENCES PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS SEVERABILITY PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION AND PROVIDING AFFECTED DATE. THANK YOU CITY MANAGER ITEM. >> THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR OF THIS ORDINANCE HAS BEEN MADE JUST ALL THE WAYS IN MANY OF THE CODE OF THE CITY YOU KNOW BEFORE THAT 62. THE COMMITTEE HEARD THE READING OF THIS I DON'T ITS REGULAR MEETING ON JULY 23RD 2020 EITHER ORDINANCE THAT'S IT. SECOND READING ON AUGUST 6 TODAY THAT YOU IS THAT WE TO REPORT AS 20 TO BECAUSE THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU LOOKING FOR COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS ON THIS. >> OKAY >> ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. ALL RIGHT SOME CLOTHING THIS PORTION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AND LOOKING FOR A MOTION. WELL A KIT AHEAD, VICE MAYOR MOVE TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 22 AS PRESIDENT I CAN. I WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY VICE MAYOR TO IMPROVE TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 DASH 22 AS PRESENTED AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. WE WILL DO A VOICE VOTE. >> VICE MAYOR VICE MAYOR MAYOR ZS LANGDON YES DO YES. I'M RICH ALRIGHT ASSETS 5 TO SEE WRAPPED. SHOULD PAY ON ITEM ORDINANCE. >> NUMBER 2020 BOARD ASKED 23 CITY CLERK. >> ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 23. AND ORDINANCE OF THE FL RELATING TO THE NORTH PORT ROAD AND DRAINAGE DISTRICT AND THE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC ROAD THING MANY OF THE COVID THE CITY OF NORTH PORT, FL CHAPTER 66 SPECIAL DISTRICTS ARTICLE DRAINAGE DISTRICT TO ELIMINATE CONFLICTS WITH THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE UPDATE REFERENCES CLARIFY ENFORCEMENT PROVISIONS AND CLARIFY THE TIMING OF THE PAYMENT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS PROVIDING FOR COMPLEX PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU CITY MANAGER THIS IS YOUR ITEM. >> YOU RELATED TO >> THE NEW CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC ROAD SITTING COMMITTED THIS. >> OR WHEN TO EXPECT MEETING ON 23RD TO CONTINUE THE ORDINANCE HAS BEEN SECOND READING 6. YESTERDAY THE CITY COMMISSION APPROVED NUMBER. WE KNEW IT 23. YOUR DISASTERS, IT. TODAY THANK ALL RIGHT. >> AND THEY. >> COMMISSION QUESTIONS ON THIS. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. ALL RIGHT SOME CLOTHING THIS PORTION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WITH THE PROMOTION. >> AMERICA CAN'T I MOVE TO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 23 HAS PRESENTED A ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 23 AS PRESENTED AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER WITHOUT GOING TO A VOICE VOTE VICE MAYOR. >> THIS MAYOR'S, YES MAYOR ZS LANGDON SAY YES DO. YES. YES, ALRIGHT PASSES 5 TO 0. >> MOVING ON TO ITEM N ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024. DASH 20 OR CITY CLERK. >> ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 24. AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY IN NORTH PORT FLORIDA AMENDING THE CODE OF THE FOR FLORIDA CHAPTER, 70 STREETS SIDEWALKS AND OTHER PUBLIC PLACES CREATING A NEW ARTICLE FOR CANOPY ROAD ZONE DESIGNATION PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS PROVIDING FOR COMPLEX PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE CITY MANAGER THIS IS YOUR ITEM. >> IS ORDERS OF COVID CITY OF REPORTER TEMPERATURE, 70. THE FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE WAS THAT THE REGULAR MEETING ON JULY 23RD, AND IT WAS CONTINUED AS PRESENTED A SECOND READING SUSSEX THAT AFTER THE CITY COMMISSION APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 TO 24 AS SENATE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. ANY COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS ON THIS. >> NO THANK YOU. >> AND I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING ON MY SCREEN. SO ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. CLOTHING THIS PORTION OF THE PUBLIC LOOKING PROMOTION. THEY GO AHEAD MOVE TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 20 FOREST PERCENT. WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY VICE MAYOR STOKES TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 24 AS PRESENTED AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL WE WILL DO A VOICE VOTE. >> VICE MAYOR VICE MAYOR S MAYOR ZS LANGDON YES DON'T U.S.. >> EMMERT YES ALRIGHT PASSES 5 TO >> MOVING ON TO ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH PARK. >> IT'S NUMBER 2024 DASH 28 ORDINANCE OF THE FL AMENDING THE CODE OF THE CITY OF NORTH PORT, FL CHAPTER 82 WATERWAYS. RAIN RAIN VESSEL REGULATIONS PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS PROVIDING FOR COMPLEX PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. ALRIGHT CITY MANAGER. >> THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR OF THIS OR DOES IT THE CODE OF THE CITY OF NORTH PORT FOR CHAPTER 82. THE FIRST READING OF THIS ORDINANCE THAT WAS AT YOUR REGULAR MEETING ON 23RD 2024 CONTINUED AFTER SECOND READING. THEY ARE THE 6 STAFF ASKED THAT THE COMMISSION APPROVED ORDERS FROM A REPORT 28 AS PRESIDENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. >> AND THE COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM. >> NO MA'AM. >> THANK YOU ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. CLOTHING THIS PORTION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AND LOOKING FOR A MOTION MAKE VICE TO ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 28 THAT THE MOTION MADE BY VICE MAYOR STOKES TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 28 AS PRESENTED AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON IT THERE'S NOTHING ELSE WE WILL DO BOYCE VOTE. VICE MAYOR AS MAYORS, MAYOR, THE S LANGDON YES GOING US. YES ALL RIGHT SO THAT ORDINANCE PASSES 5 TO 0 MOVING ON 2 RESOLUTIONS. ITEM P RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024 DASH R DASH 30. >> CITY CLERK WITH THIS BY TITLE ONLY PLEASE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024 DASH R DASH 30 RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY IN NORTH PORT FLORIDA AMENDING CITY COMMISSION POLICY AND 2021 0 MADE IT TO CITY COMMISSION MEETING SCHEDULED NOTICES AND AGENDAS PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS PROVIDING FOR COMPLEX PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE THANK YOU CITY MANAGER THIS IS YOUR ITEM. >> THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR THIS RESOLUTION, CITY COMMISSION OFTEN NUMBER 20. BUT I WOULD ASK YOU A POPULATED THE CITY COMMISSION MEETINGS GO SCHEDULE NOTICES AND AGENDAS. THIS RESOLUTION REVISE THE POLICY REFLECT INCLUSION OF RESOLUTION APPROVING. MATTERS UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA CATEGORY LINE WITH CHAPTER 2 SECTION 2002.2 OF THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE UP ABOUT ONE IS NUMBER 4 DASH 13 THE CITY WITH SOLUTION 2024. THAT 3040 INCORRECT. THIS. WE HAVE TO THE CITY COMMISSION APPROVED THIS RESOLUTION AS THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU LOOKING FOR COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS. >> NO MA'AM. >> ALL RIGHT NOTHING FROM COMMISSIONER. AND RICH WE HAVE COMMISSIONER LANGDON AND 2. >> YEAH, THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR, I JUST HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS ON THE POLICY. >> ITEM 3. C NUMBER 3 VOTE. >> SO THAT CAN CENTER GENDERS VOTED ON WITH A SINGLE VOTE TO APPROVE THE VOTE SHALL BE TAKEN BY ROLL CALL. WE TYPICALLY DO THAT DO WE USUALLY ABOUT AND THE NORMAL WAY. >> OR TECHNICALLY ROLL CALL VOTES BECAUSE THEY'RE INDIVIDUALLY LISTED ON THE AGENDA. SUPPOSE WHEN YOU SAY ALL IN FAVOR SAY OK I WAS OKAY, THANK YOU FOR AND ONE OTHER QUESTION ON PAGE 4. ITEM 4. >> 8. >> THE 1, 1, 1, >> IT'S REALLY BEEN OUR PRACTICE TO DISCUSS ITEMS BEFORE WE GO TO A MOTION I MEAN OCCASIONALLY WILL ALSO HAVE SOME CONVERSATION AFTER A MOTION IS MADE BUT. SINCE WE PREDOMINANTLY DISCUSS THINGS BEFORE A MOTION IF WE SHOULDN'T MODIFY OUR POLICY TO REFLECT THAT. I'D BE INTERESTED IN I FELT A LOT OF COMMISSIONERS HAVE TO SAY ON THAT. NO ONE CARES ASSISTS US NEWS ITEM KNOW ANY 10 THAT WHAT PAGE ARE YOU TIME ON PAGE MORE THE AND SECTION O 4 8. >> THE 1, 1, 1, OUT. >> IT WAS LIKE PUBLIC COMMENT YET WEST A MOTION THEN WE TEND TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION FIRST AND THEN GO INTO A MOTION SO THIS WOULD JUST BE OUR OPPORTUNITY TO REFLECT THAT IN OUR POLICY. >> I THINK I WOULD ADD THE DISCUSSION THAT IS AFTER THE MOTION CAN ONLY BE RELATIVE TO THAT PARTICULAR MOTION. SO SOMETIMES THE COMMISSION HAS DISCUSSION ON OVERALL TOPIC OF AGENDA ITEM. WHEN YOU DO IT AFTER THE MOTION IT TO BE SPECIFIC TO MOTION. YES, YEAH, IT'S NOT CLEAR TO BUT I I DO HAVE A STRONG STRONG FEELING ABOUT THAT. INITIALLY THAT IT. >> IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN CHANGING. THAT WE WOULD ALSO NEED TO. AND CITY COMMISSION POLICY NUMBER 2021 DASH 3, RULES ORDER AND RULES OF THE CURRENT RESOLUTION ARE CONSIDERING TONIGHT IS WRITTEN. TO CONFORM TO THAT OTHER POLICY SO IF YOU'RE INTERESTED MODIFYING THIS RULES OF ORDER WANTING TO I DON'T HAVE A BIG HEAD OF STEAM. JUST THOUGHT IF IT WAS AN EASY WEEK THAT MAYBE WE COULD. >> MAKE THAT CHANGE BUT THAT I GET CITY CLERK'S COMMENT THE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT SPECIFIC MOTION. SO I'M OKAY COMMISSIONER DOUBT. >> PREVIOUS COMMISSIONS WAS QUESTIONS. A PUBLIC COMMENT. MOTION AND THEN DISCUSSION ON WHATEVER THAT MOTION WAS. I'VE SEEN IT DONE BOTH WAYS THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I MIGHT ADD IS CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING. THAT USUALLY TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING USUALLY ONLY DONE FOR QUASI JUDICIAL. WHEN WE BECAUSE OF THE PROCESSES WHEN MAYOR CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING FOR LIKE AN ORDINANCE DISCUSSION WE STILL ASK STAFF QUESTIONS WITHOUT REOPENING IT. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S AN APPETITE TO POSSIBLY CLARIFY THAT OR JUST LEAVE IT ALONE. I DON'T. I. LIKE YOU COMMISSIONER. BROKE DON'T FIX IT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME IF WE ARE TO GO BY POLICY WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING GOING BY POLICY AND IT MAY NEED TO BE AMENDED. RELATED QUESTION. >> WHAT WE NEED TO BRING THAT BACK AS AGENDA ITEM FOR THE FACT THAT THE POLICY IN OUR BACKUP THAT MAKE IT FAIR GAME. >> NOT SURE TO WEIGH ITEM IS IS NOTICE LEGAL ISSUE WOULD BE CHANGING ANYTHING. WITHIN THE POLICY PROVIDED IT'S CONSISTENT WITH OTHER POLICIES. OKAY THANK YOU. >> HOW CAN JUST DON'T HAVE A BIG HEAD OF TO DO IT. >> AFTER NOVEMBER MAYBE WITH THE NEW BOARD IF OBVIOUSLY THERE'S GOING TO BE A NEW >> MAYBE THERE MIGHT BE AN APPETITE TO ADDRESS THE WHOLE POLICY AT THAT. I DON'T KNOW. I'M WITH YOU I DON'T THINK SO WASN'T ABLE TO DOING MUCH OF ANYTHING REGARDING THIS KIND OF STUFF IN THIS POINT EITHER SO. >> OKAY COMMISSIONER RICHARD YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT. >> NO. >> ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY. HAS IN. >> SINCE YOU HAVE THIS ON THE AGENDA. ONE OF MY QUESTIONS SOME MUNICIPALITIES HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> PRIOR TO AN AGENDA ITEM DISCUSSION BY COMMISSION. PUBLIC COMMENT COMES YOU'VE HAD YOUR DISCUSSION AND READY TO THAT VO. SO ASKING WHY CAN'T THE PUBLIC COMMENT COME BEFORE. YOU HAVE DISCUSSION SO YOU CAN DISCUSS SOME OF THE FEEDBACK YOU GET FROM THE PUBLIC. AND MAYBE INCORPORATE THAT INTO A DISCUSSION AND THEN VOTE. I WAS ONE OF QUESTIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS. THE OTHER SINCE THIS IS IT'S REGARDING THE AGENDA. I'VE GOT QUESTIONS. CITY MANAGER PLEASE DON'T TAKE ANY DISRESPECT BECAUSE THIS HAS TO DO WITH YOU SINCE YOU PUT TOGETHER THE AGENDA. >> IT'S NO DISRESPECT TO YOU AT ALL. IT'S JUST BASIC POLICY QUESTIONS AND AND COMMENTS AND THAT'S ALL IT IS. >> BUT I'VE GOT QUESTIONS AS FAR AS. >> THE CRITERIA AND THE GUIDELINES IN CREATING WHAT EXACTLY GOES ON THE AGENDA. THE ITEMS THAT ACTUALLY GET PUT ON THE AGENDA. AND SINCE THE PUBLIC HAS NO WAY TO REQUEST AN AGENDA ITEM WE HAVE TO GO TO A COMMISSIONER. AND AND HOPEFULLY THAT THEY WOULD PUT FORTH MAYBE THAT REQUEST TO HAVE AN ITEM PUT ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE THEY'VE HEARD FROM SEVERAL CITIZENS. AND THEN WHAT IF THE CITY MANAGER DENIES THAT REQUEST. THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO GUIDELINES FOR THE CRITERIA FOR AGENDA. ITEMS. >> AND THE. >> THE GUIDELINES SET FORTH CITY MANAGER BECAUSE YOU'RE THE ONE IN CHARGE OF THE AGENDA. COMMISSION BODIES ARE IN CHARGE OF AGENDA. BUT THERE IS NO SET GUIDELINES AS FAR AS THAT GOES THAT'S MY QUESTION. THE CONSENT AGENDA. WHAT IS THAT EXACTLY THE DEFINITION OF NONCONTROVERSIAL, I KNOW I PUT THAT UP. AS FAR AS HOT TOPICS AT THE LAST MEETING. BUT WHAT EXACTLY FITS THAT CRITERIA AND WHAT EXACTLY IS THAT DEFINITION. SO I'M I'M LOOKING MORE IN-DEPTH AGENDA POLICY AND THE GUIDELINES FOR SETS THE AGENDA. WHAT RECOURSE DOES THE CITIZEN HAVE OR DOES THE COMMISSIONER HAVE IF THEY CONTINUE TO GET DENIED. REQUEST THAT IS BEING PUT FORTH TO THEM BY US BY CITIZENS THAT WE AND PUT AS FAR AS MOST ON THE AGENDA. SO I'M ASKING IF YOU COULD PLEASE CONSIDER WHAT ASKING. AND WHEN YOU EXACTLY LOOK AT THIS POLICY. IF YOU MAYBE CAN INCORPORATE THAT INTO THIS POLICY. WE'LL HAVE A SEPARATE GUIDELINE WHATEVER IS GOING TO BE IN CHARGE OF THE AGENDA. ALL RIGHT ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT. ALL RIGHT, IT >> THANK I CAN REMEMBER. OKAY YOU YEAH. WE VOTE IN THIS PORTION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AND LOOKING. MOTION. >> MAKE MOTION GO AHEAD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2, 0, 2, 4, R DASH 3, 8, 3, 0, HAS PRESENTED ACTIVE. >> ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024 DASH 4 DASH 30. I COMMISSIONED A GALLON THAT WAS SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR STOKES WE WILL DO A VOICE VOTE VICE MAYOR VICE MAYOR SO THEY'RE THE S LANGDON SAY 1000 YES AND I'D LIKE MAKE ANOTHER MOTION FOR YOU TURN. OKAY THAT PASSES I TO SPIRO AHEAD COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT THE CITY CLERK TO BRING BACK POLICY NUMBER. A COMMISSION POLICY NUMBER 2, 0, 2, 1, 0, 5, >> RELATING MEETINGS AND SCHEDULES TO DISCUSS THE PUBLIC COMMENTERS IDEAS AND SUGGESTIONS IN TOTALITY ADDED 8 TO BE DETERMINED. >> A SECOND MAP. >> ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL, IT >> DID CAPTURE THAT DIRECT THE CITY CLERK TO BRING BACK POLICY NUMBER 2021 DASH 0, 5, RELATING TO MEETINGS AND SCOTT COMMISSION MEETINGS AND SCHEDULES TO DISCUSS PUBLIC COMMENTS OR SUGGESTIONS. AT A DATE TO BE DETERMINED. ALL RIGHT AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON ALL RIGHT ANYTHING ELSE WILL DO A VOICE VOTE VICE MAYOR. MAYOR ZS LANGDON SAY YES YES. >> YES, OKAY PASSES 5 TO YOU. 0. MOVING TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. >> I WANT CHANGE THE SUBJECT. THERE'S A COUPLE ISSUES IT SIGNIFICANTLY BOTHER ME AND I WANT TO BRING IN TOO COMMISSION'S ATTENTION BECAUSE I'M GOING TO BE WORKING ONE ISSUE HAS TO RELATE TO HISTORICAL HAZMAT ISSUES. AND AS RELATE TO. PROJECTS THAT MAY COME FORWARD FOR THE CITY. THE SECOND. IS AS IT RELATES TO THAT. I KEEP HEARING THE PHRASE. WE DON'T HAVE TO. MULTIPLE TIMES ON MULTIPLE ISSUES. AND EXAMPLE WOULD BE WHEN WE'RE TESTING DURING ARSENIC IS BEING TESTED SABAL TRACE. THE PROPERTY WAS TESTED, BUT THE MAC AS YOU CREATE WAS NOT BECAUSE. WE DON'T HAVE WAS THE RESPONSE. STAFF AT THAT TIME AND I'M NOT GOING ANYBODY PARTICULAR AND U.S.. THAT ALSO BRINGS TO LIGHT. THERE ARE MANY MANY EXEMPTIONS. 2 POLICIES THAT CODES THAT THE CITIZEN HELD TO. BUT STAFF. IN PARTICULAR OPERATIONS AND PROJECTS. I HEARD THE WORD. WE DON'T HAVE TO WELL IT'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE ASPECT AS TO A EFFECTIVENESS HEARD MULTIPLE A. AND I COULD USE ANOTHER AND THAT'S REALLY STARTING TO BE A BOTHER. AS FAR AS WE DON'T HAVE TO. AND I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY STAFF IS NOT SUBJECT TO THE SAME CODES RULES AND REGULATIONS AS ANY CITIZEN OF THIS CITY. WHEN IT COMES TO CERTAIN WHEN IT COMES TAKING WHEN IT COMES REMOVING TREES. WELL EVER. THAT PHRASE IS GOING TO CHANGE IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING DIFFERENT ABOUT THAT. THEY EITHER ADHERE TO SAME COACH OR THEY DON'T. THAT THAT WHAT A GOOD SIDE IS RIGHT. I THINK WE HAVE WON THE MOST PROFESSIONAL STAFFS. WE'VE HAD A VERY LONG TIME. I AND OVER WHAT THEY. AND THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW POLICY. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE ASPECTS. THE AGENDA. LIKE WHAT THEY DO. THEY MAY NOT. AGREE WITH WHAT THEY BUT THEY'RE SUBJECT TO POLICY. SO NOBODY TO ANYTHING. AGAIN STAFF AND WHAT THEY DO. DOING THE JOB. I DO. THE PERSON WHO IS HIRED TO DO A JOB. AND HE IS VERY GOOD AT IT. PROBABLY 70%. WITH THE ULDC THERE'S 30% THAT'S AWFUL. THAT STUFF. AND THERE'S 2 WAYS TO MANY TO TO GET TO. AS FAR AS THE 70'S 30 ON THAT RIGHT NOW AND I THINK THE CITY IS DOING AN OUTSTANDING AND SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS GETTING THE ANSWERS TO THE PUBLIC. ALL THEY WANT HIS ANSWERS TO THEIR QUESTIONS. UNFORTUNATE THING GET A REAL HARD AS FAR AS REZONING. THANK THANK YOU ALL AND THANK THANK YOU. MISTER ENGLISH. >> ANYTHING ELSE. RIGHT. >> I TOO WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT. ANY OF MY COMMENTS THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. AND BRINGING ATTENTION TO A SPECIFIC INDIVIDUAL. IT WAS ABSOLUTELY NO DISRESPECT. SO EVERYBODY MUST STAND THAT. ESPECIALLY YOU CITY MANAGER, NO DISRESPECT WHATSOEVER. OKAY. >> ALANA NO DISRESPECT TO YOU WERE NOTICED TO YOU WHEN I WAS MENTIONING. PROBLEM THAT I WAS HAVING WITH THE ULDC THIS JUST ACTUALLY A COUPLE MORE ITEMS. ON THE ULDC CHAPTER 6 UNDER GOPHER TORTOISE. >> YOU HAVE IN THERE LETTER A THAT THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND THEN ACTUALLY RELOCATE THE GOPHER TORTOISE THEY CAN ABSOLUTELY NOT. SO THAT HAS TO CHANGE THE PROPERTY CAN IN NO WAY WE LOCATED GOPHER TORTOISE HAS TO BE A PROFESSIONAL. OVER TOWARDS NOT A NOT PROPERTY ON. IT'S IN THERE LIKE THAT. MY QUESTION WAS WITH THE SCRUB AND HE IS AND THE TREES. WE HAD A SO THE TREES IN THE PAST THEY WERE 5 OF THEM. THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF OAKS WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THAT I ONLY SEE SQUABBLE. WITHIN THAT AS FAR AS MAINTAINING. HABITAT WE JUST >> PILING EVERYTHING WITHIN NATIVE HABITAT LAND MANAGEMENT WITHIN THOSE AREAS. >> OR DO WE NEED TO SPECIFICALLY LISTS SOME OF THOSE TREES THAT SHOULD NOT BE REMOVED. THIS IS WHAT WAS DISCUSSED YEARS YOU KNOW PUT TOGETHER FOR THE SCRUB JAY. GUIDELINES. >> ONE MORE THING I JUST THINK MAYBE WITH NOTIFICATION TO THE CITIZENS, YOU KNOW THERE IS. >> EMAIL LISTINGS THERE'S NOTES WE CAN PUT LIKE YOU HAD RECOMMENDED COMMISSIONER LANGDON IT MAY BE THAT IN THE TAX NOTICES. YOU KNOW MAYBE A GENERALIZED STATEMENT TO LOOK OUT FOR OR SIGN UP FOR EMAIL. SOMETHING SO WE CAN PROPERLY THE RESIDENTS AS FAR AS ANY UPCOMING ZONING ISSUES REZONING ISSUES. THAT'S REALLY GOING TO AFFECT THEM. MAYBE IF WE CAN FOLLOW THE SAME GUIDELINES SET FORTH FOR DEVELOPERS. WHAT THEY HAVE TO GO GO THROUGH AS FAR AS NOTIFYING NOTIFYING THE AFFECTED ALL MONIES WITHIN A CERTAIN RANGE. IT DOESN'T COST THAT MUCH MONEY IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE 3,000 HOUSEHOLDS. IF WE DO IT IN. THE WAY IT'S BEING PRESENTED AT A $1.50. IT'S LIKE WHAT. ♪ ♪ 2004 1005 1000 BALLOTS. YOU KNOW THAT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY SO THAT A DIFFERENT PLACE TO NOTIFY THE CITIZENS BECAUSE THAT'S THE PROBLEM WE'RE HAVING. TRUST. >> WE WANT TO HEAR WE WANT TO BE PART OF THANK YOU. CAN'T. >> ALL RIGHT SO I'M GOING TO ADJOURN THE THAT YES THAT TIME. JUST A REMINDER IN YOUR INBOX THERE'S AN E-MAIL FROM AN THE INPUT SUPPOSED TO GIVE THEM THE DIMENSION ALSO IS DUE ON FRIDAY AUGUST 9. >> MAKING CASE. >> CITY MANAGER WAS THAT SENT OUT VIA EMAIL. >> A NEW LAW. SHE SAID YOU GET IN A SERVER THEY NOT DO A LOT. >> FOR THE DEBT MANAGEMENT POLICY. >> YES, BUT YES, SIR. >> SO YOU NEED TO HAVE IT BY FRIDAY. >> JUST OKAY I'LL BE BACK BUT MAYBE HOST AND YOU HAHA. EVERYBODY THERE AUGUST. REALLY I JUST ONE. >> THANK YOU YOU TOO. >> SO IT'S NOT A 53 AND I ADJOURN THIS WILL STAY OFF DRIVEWAYS WHAT'S NOT ACCEPT THAT IS