CALLED EXIT SKILL ASSESSMENTS. SO WHAT WE DO IS WE HAVE YOUR CHILD GET IN THE WATER AND WILL GO THROUGH A SERIES OF DIFFERENT MOVEMENTS CAN YOU GO INTO THE WATER I CAN YOU SHOW US YOUR PHONE CALL CAN YOU SHOW US BACK ALL SHOWS ELEMENTARY BACK DIFFERENT STROKES WITHIN AND WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE TRYING TO SEE. YOUR CHILD TEST TO BEFORE IT BECOMES A CHALLENGE FOR AT THAT POINT ONCE WE ASSESS THAT THAT WILL LET YOU KNOW AND YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND SIGN YOUR CHILD UP FOR THAT APPROPRIATE LEVEL THERE. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THESE SO THAT WAY WHEN WE'RE TEACHING A LEVEL ONE WE DON'T HAVE KIDS THAT SHOULD POTENTIALLY A LEVEL 2 AND LEVEL ONE CLASS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT LEARNING THE APPROPRIATE SKILLS THAT THEY NEEDED THAT POINT IN TIME RIGHT NOW WHEN WE'RE IN FULL SUMMER WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE COME BETWEEN 8.10 DEDUCE FROM A VALUATION JUST AS YOU CAN HEAR THE WATER SPLASHING IN THE BACKGROUND SLIDE. EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT ANY DAY OF THE THAT OPEN YOU CAN COME IN AT ANY POINT IN TIME ENOUGH FOR SOME EVALUATIONS WE ALWAYS HAVE A CERTIFIED SO MUCH DOCTOR ON SITE THAT CAN I HAVE YOUR CHILD TAKE A SWIM ASSESSMENT. ♪ >> STACEY LA SALLE AND THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY OF NORTH PORT AND I'M GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT HAVING AN EVACUATION PLAN IT'S A POINT HAVE AN EVACUATION PLAN AHEAD OF TIME AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO WRITE IT DOWN BECAUSE THAT WAY YOU HAVE IT SOMEWHERE PRESENT EVERYBODY IN YOUR FAMILY CAN SEE IT AND KEEP IT FRESH IN THEIR MINDS AND YOU ALSO SHARE IT WITH PEOPLE IN YOUR FAMILY OR YOUR NEIGHBORS SO THAT THEY KNOW WHAT YOUR PLANS ARE AHEAD OF TIME AND HOW TO GET A HOLD OF YOUR WAY TO LOOK FOR YOU AFTER A DISASTER FOR YOUR EVACUATION YOU SHOULD HAVE MULTIPLE ROUTES TO GET TO LOCATION. YOU'RE PLANNING TO GO TO JUST BECAUSE TRAFFIC WAS TRAFFIC ON 75 MIGHT BE GRIDLOCKED THERE COULD BE SOME VERY GOOD BACK ROADS TO GET TO WHERE YOU'RE GOING THAT COULD GET YOU THERE MORE QUICKLY WITHOUT BEING STUCK IN TRAFFIC WHEN YOU'RE MAKING EVACUATION PLAN. WE USUALLY TELL YOU 4 DIFFERENT THINGS YOU SHOULD STAY HOME IF YOU ARE NOT IN HIS OWN THAT'S BEING EVACUATED AND IF YOUR HOME IS BUILT TO WITHSTAND THE FORECASTED STORM IF YOU CAN STAY HOME. AND YOU EVACUATE YOUR NEXT OPTION SHOULD BE TO GO TO A FRIEND OUR FAMILY'S HOME THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THE EVACUATION AREA AND IT IS STRUCTURALLY SOUND TO US AND THE STORM 3RD OPTION WOULD BE GO TO A HOTEL. THEY'RE MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE THAN I'VE ACCUSATION. CENTER'S 4TH OPTION WOULD BE TO GO TO ONE OF OUR EVACUATION CENTER SARASOTA COUNTY HAS FALLEN BACK AWAY SHUNS CENTER'S. THOSE CAN BE FOUND ON THEIR WEBSITE. >> WHY DO WE FLOOD. DURING SIGNIFICANT RAIN EVENTS PORT NEARLY ALWAYS FLOODS IN CERTAIN AREAS OF THE CITY. THIS IS THANKS TO THE LOCALLY NAMED MYAKKA HATCHEE CREEK ALSO KNOWN AS THE BIG SLEW WATERSHED. >> THE 195 SQUARE MILE DRAINAGE AREA FLOWS THROUGH DESOTO MANATEE AND SARASOTA COUNTIES THEN THROUGH OUR CITY TO EXIT CHARLOTTE HARBOR RIGHT GOOD EVENING TODAY IS TUESDAY MARCH 1920 24 IT IS 06:00PM AND WE'RE IN THE CITY CHAMBERS AND I ALL THE CITY COMMISSION JOINT MEETING TO ORDER. >> COMMISSIONERS PRESENT OUR COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL COMMISSIONER LANGDON MYSELF MAYOR LIGHT VICE MAYOR. >> SO AND COMMISSIONER EMRICH IS MISSING IN ACTION. BUT YOU KNOW I AND AGAIN WISH HIM YOU NEED COVER IT. ALSO PRESIDENT WE HAVE CITY MANAGER FLETCHER WE HAVE ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY HILARY RYAN JOINING US TONIGHT, SITTING BURGER ABOUT FORGOT TO LOOK. BUT WE HAVE >> HAVE PLEASE WE DO HAVE A PLEASE. >> CAPTAIN R B AT RV ALL THANK AND THEY WANT TO HAVE TO MAKE A NEW PART NOW. >> I'M GOING TO CALL ON CHAIR THE CHARTER REVIEW BOARD. ART WOULD YOU MIND LEADING US IN THE BUDGET REAL ABOUT THAT YOU'RE YOU'RE NOT MISTER OKAY, I'M SORRY THAT'S RIGHT THERE FROM ALL A UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. >> AND EARLY JUST ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR >> CAN YOU GET IT NEXT TONIGHT, THANK YOU WE'LL TALK. >> I'M LOOKING FOR. THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA SO MOVED BACK AND. >> ALL RIGHT WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA MADE BY BEISNER STOKES AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON. >> LET'S IT. AND THAT PASSES 4 TO 0 MOVING ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT CITY CLERK. BUT A FEW WEEKS AND SO I WAS LEFT HERE. >> I SAW SOMETHING ON SOCIAL LESS A WEEK AGO IT HAD TO DO WITH THE SOME BUDDIES FEATHERS BEING RUFFLED OVER ZONING AND IT BROUGHT BACK SOME MEMORIES AND THE DESIRE TO COME DOWN HERE AND. EXPRESS MYSELF. SO LAST TIME I WAS HERE. THERE PLANNING AND ZONING ORDERED THE RECOMMENDED AGAINST THE CITIZENS OF THE COMMUNITY WERE ALL AGAINST IT. >> VOTED AGAINST IT APPROVED IT. SO I'M HERE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY. AND RESPONSIBILITY FOR ELECTED TO DO WHAT'S IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE CITIZENS. YOU IGNORED THE CITIZENS, YOU'RE IGNORED ARE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD. I HAVE REASON TO BELIEVE THAT NUMBER OF YOU. HEAD YOUR EARS. THAT. SO YES, YOU HAVE 2 EARS. I ONE APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION. SO AS YOU CHANGE YOUR VOTE. BUT WHEN MEETING YOU HEARD ABOUT SEE IT, BUT SAYS ADDITIONAL. PROJECTS IN THE CITY. I BELIEVE. SUCCUMB TO EXTORTION. SAME BOAT. YOU BOTH VOTED AGAINST THIS THE FIRST TIME AROUND. SPENCE BEFORE YOU REALLY HEARD IT, SOMEBODY ABLE TO FILE BOUCHARD THAT TO 6 YOU OPENED UP THE DOOR FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO GET THE SAME TREATMENT AND THEN YOU. WE BENT OVER AND TOOK IT AS CITIZENS. I WON'T FORGET. THE GENTLEMAN. I THOUGHT WITH THE FIRST TIME AND THE SECOND TIME. JIM'S NOT HERE. SORRY ABOUT HIS MOTORCYCLE ACCIDENT UNDERSTANDS BETTER SHAPE THAN I WAS ONE WAS SINGLE VEHICLE ACCIDENT. I HAD BEEN DRINKING HE WAS BRUTALIZED. I THE SAME CONTEMPT. OR USE THE OTHER 3 THAT THOSE OFF TO. WE'RE LOOKING FOR COURAGE. WE'RE LOOKING FOR PEOPLE TO STAND UP AND DO WHAT'S RIGHT AND IN TODAY'S WORLD, IT'S IN SHORT ORDER. I APPRECIATE YOU LISTENING TO ME. I ALL THE WAY NORTH CAROLINA. THE VOICE BY OPINION ON MULTIPLE HERE. HAVE 7 FIGURES INVESTED VIRGINIA. NORTH CAROLINA AND DEVELOPMENT AND A SISTER COUNTY HERE. I GUESS WHAT. 2 OF THE 3. ARE MULTI-FAMILY HOMES. BUT I'M NOT FIGHTING A COMMUNITY. BEING EMBRACED BEING DONE RIGHT. YOU GUYS. WE'LL BE UP AGAINST ANY TIME YOU RUN FOR DOG CATCHER. COMMISSION WHATEVER. HAVE FAILED THE CITIZEN. ♪ ♪ >> AND I DO NOT SUPPORT. >> YOUR COMMENT BEFORE WE SPEND MORE TIME YOU GUYS HAVE A NICE EVENING. >> WE HAVE ANY OTHER OKAY. I'M MOVING ON TO ITEM 3 GENERAL BUSINESS 24 DASH 0, 4, 3, 8, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE CHARTER REVIEW ADVISORY BOARD 2024 GOALS. CITY CLERK. THIS IS YOUR RIGHT. ITEM. >> THE QUESTION US HAVE A JOINT MEETING PFIZER IS WERE TO GO OVER THERE. GOALS FOR 2024. WE DO HAVE BOARD MEMBERS HERE MISTER BILL'S JUST MISTER JUSTICE AND MISTER CHAIR. >> ALL RIGHT SO WHAT THE YEAR. KNOW COME UP YET. THEY'RE GOING JOIN THIS QUESTIONS THE. >> WELL ASK DO WOULD YOU FELLOWS LIKE TO GO THROUGH THE IMPORTANT. THE THINGS YOU WANT TO DISCUSS WITH US. TONIGHT AND SORT OF JUST GIVE US AN OVERVIEW OF YOUR POINT OF VIEW. >> MY POINT OF VIEW IS POLICE STATION WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THAT. WE'RE LOOKING AT >> A WE CAN OK WE CAN'T DISCUSS LET'S CLARIFY THAT YOU HAVE ACCOMPLISHMENTS WHICH ARE I HAVE EXPLANATORY THAT'S GREAT. LOOKING AT THE BOARD GOALS DO JUST WANT TO GO THROUGH THEM. ONE BY ONE OR DO YOU WANT TO. THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE CAN DISCUSS. IF SOMETHING PARTICULARLY WANT TO TAKE YOUR TOP 3 1ST. MAYBE THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA AND EXPLAIN WHY THAT'S A GOAL. >> OK AS FAR AS TOP 3 GO WE'VE ALREADY ACCOMPLISHED THAT A LOT OUR LAST MEETING. THE FIRST 2. ADVISORY BOARD TRAINING. I THINK WE DID THAT THE LAST MEETING ALSO. OKAY, SO THOSE 3 PLACE. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING SECTION TO THE CITY CHARTER REGARDING COMMISSION JOB DESCRIPTIONS. THAT'S A LOW ITEM HONOR. AGENDA AT THIS POINT IN TIME WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT WE HAVE NO ACTION ON IT THIS POINT. AND BASICALLY WHAT THAT WOULD INCLUDE BE PUTTING SOMETHING INTO THE FACT THAT THIS WOULD BE A FULL TIME JOB AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE WANT TO DO THAT OR NOT THE OTHER ONE IS DISCUSSION DISCUSSION ACTIONS REGARDING ADDING A SECTION TO THAT. SO THE COMMISSION CHARTER FOR PAY INCREASES. AND WE'RE LOOKING WE HAVEN'T REALLY FULLY DISCUSSED WE OVER A LITTLE BIT AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING THERE IS SOMETHING MAYBE TO SAY THAT. COMMISSIONERS HERE SHOULD HAVE ACE GRADE SIMILAR TO. OTHER CITIES IN THE STATE WITH THE SAME PEOPLE POPULATION. THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT YOU KNOW IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP, BEEN DISCUSSED YET IT'S IT'S A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM WE WERE LOOKING AT AND WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR SOME INPUT FROM THE COMMISSION ALSO ON THAT ISSUE. OKAY LET LET >> THERE A STRICT ELSE MIGHT WENT ON THAT YOU WANT TO ASK A QUESTION ABOUT SOMETHING IT SAID SO FAR NO I I WAS GOING TO ASK IF THEY WANT TO GIVE A DISCUSS THE GOALS YOU TO FANS ASKED. >> BECAUSE IF YOU DO VICE MAYOR DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT SPECIFIC GET FIGURE. BEST WAY TO HANDLE IT ITEM BY THAT'S THE CASE. YES IN MY LIFE IS ON OCCASION. OKAY. >> BUY WHAT WHEN ARE WE ARE. >> REGARDING REALLY ONE ABOUT THE PAY INCREASE ITS JOB DESCRIPTIONS PAY FREEZES IT REALLY A COMBINATION OF THE 2 YEAH BECAUSE THE KIND GATHER UP YEAH. I KNOW POINT YOU FOLKS REACHED OUT TO EACH OF THE COMMISSIONERS AND SPOKE TO THEM ABOUT WHAT THEY DO WHEN THEY DO WE'LL HAVE MUCH TIME THEY SPENT. >> KIND OF. CONSENSUS IF THERE WAS A CONSENSUS THAT YOU GUYS CAME TO IN TERMS HOW YOU PERCEIVED THE JOB DID YOU DO YOU SEE THIS JOB AS SOMETHING THAT'S FULL TIME. >> WAR YOU SITTING BUSINESS RELATED OR WHEN YOU ADD THE OTHER ASPECTS OF THE JOB DOESN'T MAKE IT LET WHAT DID YOU GLEAN FROM IT BECAUSE I ONLY TALKED TO ONE IF YOU AND I ASSUME EVERYBODY TALKED TO ONE PERSON AT SOME POINT OKAY, I'LL LET MY. >> 2 COUNTERPARTS THAT ON 2 THIS MY OPINION IS. IT'S FULL TIME IF YOU LOOK AT EVERYTHING YOU HAVE YOU DO AS FAR YOU KNOW. COMMITMENTS TO THE CITY ITSELF IS PROBABLY PART I BUT WHEN YOU GO TO ALL THESE OTHER FUNCTIONS TEARS. BOARDS AND THINGS THAT YOU'RE ON ALMOST LOOKS TO ME LIKE IT'S A FULL-TIME JOB I WAS SORT OF TREATED A LOOK AT THESE TO SPEAK ON THEIR OPINION ON IT. >> YEAH I THE DISCUSSION WE HAD AFTER ALL OF THE INTERVIEWS WAS REALLY WASN'T A CONSENSUS AND EVEN ON THE COMMITTEE IF I REMEMBER RIGHT OF MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS KIND OF DESTRUCTION. BECAUSE JUST TALKING ABOUT A SHOP, SOME FRIENDS OF MINE BACK THEY HAVE NEVER HEARD OF THE JOB DESCRIPTION FOR POLITICAL OFFICE. YOU KNOW OTHER THAT. REPRESENT AND SERVE THE PEOPLE WHO ELECTED YOU SO I THINK THERE WAS SOME DIVERSITY AMONG THE COMMITTEE OF WHETHER THIS EVEN GETS DISCUSSED. YOU KNOW, AND I THINK THAT'S MY MY RECOLLECTION, YOU YES. >> THAT'S WHY IT'S A LOW ITEM WE HAVEN'T REALLY GOTTEN TO IT YET. >> READ FULL TIME BUT I ALSO YEAR WE GREETED SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S 3RD OF ORDINANCES NOT DOING A GOOD JOB THEY'RE ALL >> ONE CITY ALL SIR MICROPHONE LOW RED LIGHT ON. NOW THANK OKAY. LIKE THAT I THINK IT'S A FULL-TIME JOB, BUT IT'S NOT UP THE SITE BORDERS ARE GOING TO DECIDE ON THAT AT THE BOWLING *****. YOU CAN HAVE ONE PERSON THAT'S RUNNING. AND PUT 80 HOURS A WEEK YOU CAN HAVE ANOTHER PERSON 40 HOURS IF ONE PERSON IS LOOKED UPON HIGHLY BUT VOTERS IT'S NOT GONNA MATTER WHETHER OR NOT THEY WERE GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND TO STUFF EVERY DAY WHETHER THEY'RE SITTING AT HOME PREPPING FOR THE NEXT DAY'S MEETING GOING OUT GRAND OPENINGS GOING THE OTHER BOARD MEETING LIKE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE ULTIMATELY UP TO OLDER I DO BELIEVE THAT IT IS A FULL-TIME JOB THAT NEEDS TO BE RESPECTED. IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY THAT THEY KNOW THAT THESE PEOPLE GOING OUT. AND DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING ON A DAILY BASIS. >> HAVE YOU HAD ANY OPPORTUNITY YET TO TAKE A LOOK AT COMPARABLE SIZE CITY'S POPULATION WHICH TO SEE. HOW THE SALARIES MATCHUP AGAINST WHAT COMMISSION. IS PRESENTLY MACON. >> YET I HAVEN'T HAD GOTTEN FAR WITH YET THAT'S WHAT IT'S IT'S A. >> A AT THE MOMENT DID WE'RE LOOKING AT OTHER THINGS FIRST AND THAT WILL COME INTO THAT. >> I MEAN OBVIOUSLY YOU KNOW THAT THEY'RE IMPORTANT FROM THE STANDPOINT OF. YOU KNOW REALLY FINDING A WAY THAT WE CAN ATTRACT AS CITY. YOUNGER PEOPLE. NOT TO SAY THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH IT. >> GRAND IS THAT >> TO BE ABLE TO ATTRACT BROADER BASE OF OF POTENTIAL CANDIDATES. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO DO SO IF YOU'VE GOT A FAMILY AND A COUPLE OF KIDS OBVIOUSLY, AND YOU'VE GOT TO GIVE UP. YOU KNOW TO DO THE JOB THE WAY REALLY NEED TO DO IT TO TO GIVE UP A FULL-TIME JOB WITH A SALARY THAT THIS JOB BASE AND I THINK. THAT'S TO THE DETRIMENT OF THE CITY AT HERTZ TO CITY TO NOT BE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO 2 TO THAT BROADER BASE OF OF OF CITIZEN, SO THIS IS AN IMPORTANT MISSION. >> THE COMMENTS LATELY ON LIE. PEOPLE ASKING FOR LOOKING FOR CANDIDATES, THE ROCK IS FULL TIME JOB CAN'T DO IT. AND I THINK THAT IS A A CATCH 22. GOOD PEOPLE HAVE A FULL-TIME JOB. AND BECAUSE EVEN JUST LOOKING AT THE MEETINGS HERE ONES AND THEY WANT TO DIE. THEY THEY CAN'T DO IT MUCH FOR SELF EMPLOYED. THERE IS SOME. PROBLEMS GOING FORWARD. I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER. THAT'S WHY IT'S ON THE EDGE OF THAT JUST TO TALK ABOUT. >> YOU GET ENOUGH. SALARY THIS POSITION. FOR A PERSON TO SURVIVE ON NOT HAVE TO TAKE ANOTHER JOB, YOU PROBABLY ARE NOT GOING TO ATTRACT TOO MANY YOUNG UP AND COMING. INDIVIDUALS. >> I APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU HAVE SOMETHING ON THAT TOPIC. YEAH SO WANT TO GO BACK TO THE JOB I REVIEW JIM MINUTES FROM PREVIOUS MEETINGS THAT YOU GUYS UP HIGH. I'M SORRY BUT YOU GUYS HAVE DISCUSSED JOB DESCRIPTIONS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER. >> AND OVER AGAIN. >> AND YOUR FEBRUARY MEETING GUYS DECIDED ACTION. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD PUT A JOB DESCRIPTION TOGETHER. >> BECAUSE EACH ONE OF US. A FIGHT 4 OF US. EACH DO OUR JOB A LITTLE BIT SHIP THERE. BUT COUNTABLE TO BE ELECTED. THE PEOPLE THAT ELECTED AND IF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE GOVERNOR AND THE COUNTY OFFICIALS DO NOT HAVE JOB DESCRIPTIONS WHY WOULD WE. AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW A JOB DESCRIPTION WOULD ANYBODY'S BEST INTEREST BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE A JOB DESCRIPTION THAT IS TELLING YOU THAT IS YOUR JOB. AND SOMETIMES JOB DESCRIPTION IF YOU DEVIATE FROM THAT DESCRIPTION AND IT CAN GET YOU INTO TROUBLE. THE PEOPLE ELECTED US TO DO OUR JOB. WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE. AND AND TO PUT A JOB DESCRIPTION IN THE CHARTER. YOU FORGET SOMETHING WE'VE GOT TO GO RIGHT BACK TO THE VOTERS TO HAVE CLEANED WE'RE GOING RIGHT BACK TO THE VOTERS TO HAVE X WITH IT. SO I DON'T SEE THE PURPOSE OF PUTTING THE JOB DESCRIPTION IN THE CHART. >> I THINK THAT ONE OF THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF ALL THOSE DISCUSSIONS WAS WE WERE NOT AWARE ABOUT COMMISSIONERS AND BOOK. THAT IS KIND OF KIND OF YOUR BIBLE OF WHAT YOU DO AND DON'T DO. I THINK THAT CAME UP AFTER THAT OUT OF THAT DISCUSSION THAT'S NOT THE JOB HELPING US BE COMMISSIONERS KIND OF LIKE AN EMPLOYEE HANDBOOK HELPS EMPLOYEES FIGURE OUT. >> SO WE'RE. >> WE PASS THAT UP THE ONLY THING THAT IS POSSIBLE AND ARE NOW IS. SO THAT HE WAS THINKING OF MAYBE JUST ADDING A FEW WORDS IN THE CHARTER THAT SAID SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF THIS IS A FULL-TIME JOB AND LEAVING IT AT THAT, BUT BUT EVEN THAT AT THAT POINT WAS NOT IT WAS ON THE AGENDA PRESSED LOOK WE'RE NOT REALLY CONSIDERING AT THIS POINT IT ANYTHING IT'S THAT IT WOULD BE VERY >> AND EVEN IF YOU PUT IN THERE IF IT'S A PART-TIME OR FULL-TIME JOB. THIS WHAT I DO IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS DO IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN THE NEWLY ELECTED PERSON WOULD BE DOING TO PUT SOMETHING THAT. RESTRICTED IN THE CHARTER THAT IS VERY SUBJECTIVE IT DEFIES THE PURPOSE OF WHAT CHARTER IS IN MY OPINION. SO I I UNDERSTAND THAT TO THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT ITEM FOR SOME OF THE BOARD. BUT YOU GUYS OVER TIME HAVE TALKED ABOUT SO MUCH AND HAVE NEVER COME TO A CONCLUSION. EXCEPT THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE ACTION THAT TO ME IS KIND OF SAYING THAT. YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT WE WOULD WANT TO PUT IN THE CHARTER IF ANYTHING. >> EVERYTHING YOU SAID IS TRUE, WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE HAVEN'T GONE FURTHER WITH IT IS SO MOST DESCRIPTION I FOR ITEM. SO WHY TRY TO DO ANYTHING LIKE YOU SAID IT WENT IN THERE AND IT WAS QUITE A MISSING. YOU GOT TO GO BACK TO SO AT THIS POINT LIKE IT'S THAT IT'S VERY VERY LOW KEY. WE MAY NOT TAKE ANY FURTHER ACTION ON IT THE REST OF THE YEAR. WE COME UP WITH ANY REASON TO AT THIS POINT TIME. AND YOU KNOW. >> PART OF WHAT I HOPE TO GET OUT OF THIS MEETING IS TO HOPEFULLY GIVE YOU GUYS SOME DEFINITIVE TASK SOMEWHAT TO FOCUS ON INSTEAD OF JUST SPINNING WHEELS IN MEETING JUST TO MEET BECAUSE THAT'S NOT BENEFICIAL FOR YOUR TIME AND AND STAFF'S TIME TO BE AT THE MEETINGS AND YOU KNOW WHOLE PURPOSE OF YOUR BOARD IS TO FIGURE OUT THINGS THAT ACTUALLY GOING CHARTER. YOU KNOW WE'VE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT AS FAR AS THE COMPENSATION ONE. >> AS ONE OF THE ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT PUT THE POLICY IN PLACE FOR COMPENSATION. I DON'T REMEMBER IF WAS ON THE BOARD AT THAT TIME BUT WE PRETTY MUCH FOLLOW THE FORMULA OUTLINED BY THE STATE. SO THE STATE HAS A FORMULA FOR COMPENSATION THAT THE COUNTY ALSO USES FOR THEIR CAN YOU KNOW THEY'RE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ALONG SOME OTHER OFFICIALS. I THINK THE CHARTER. SO CALLED THE. CHARTER OFFICERS LIKE THE TAX ASSESSOR AND THE COUNTY OR THANK YOU COUNTY OFFICERS. THEIR PAY IS REGULATED BY THAT FORMULA. SO WE USE THE SAME FORMULA THAT IS PUT OUT BY THE STATE. THE ONLY THING THAT WE CHANGED AT THAT TIME WAS THE BASE AMOUNT BECAUSE I THINK IT WAS 2018 THAT BASE AMOUNT WOULD HAVE INCREASED OUR SALARY TO LIKE 50,000 OF $45,000. MORE LIKE NO THAT'S THAT'S NOT IT WAS TOO HOT. SO WE GO I THE POPULATION OF THE CITY AS THE POPULATION INCREASES SO DOES OUR SALARY BUT IT'S BASED ON THE FORMULA AND BELIEVE ME. >> YOU WANT TO GET INTO A LESSON IN ALGEBRA TAKE A LOOK THAT POINT IT'S IT'S QUITE AND I CAN SEND IT TO THE CITY CLERK OR CITY MANAGER PROBABLY HASN'T WITH PAYROLL. SO THAT YOU GUYS CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT FORMULA. BUT IT IS STATE VETTED FORMULA. WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT FORMULA I WANTED TO KIND OF HAVE IT MORE GEARED TOWARDS. >> WHAT >> SO >> CITIZENS MAKE WHAT IS THE AVERAGE INCOME OF THE CITIZENS AND MAKE IT KIND OF REASON ALL OF THE BOATS AT THE SAME TIME AND BENEFITING EVERYBODY AT THE SAME TIME. BUT WE COULDN'T COME UP WITH VIABLE ACROSS THE BOARD MEDIUM FOR THAT. TO BE ABLE TO USED. >> EVERY YEAR YEAR AFTER YEAR. >> WHERE IS THE STATE FORMULA SEEMED TO BE A CONSTANT STATE WIDE. SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU IT'S NOT LIKE SOME NUMBER WE PICKED OUT OF THE AIR IT IS A STATE ISSUE FOR IF WE DIDN'T KNOW IT BE INTERESTING TO SEE IT. SO JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU. COMMISSIONER LANGDON HAD OR LIGHT ON THAT SAME TOPIC SAME TOUGHER. I COME AT IT FROM A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW. >> ALL OF THESE CONVERSE SEVERAL DAYS THE HOW THE INCREASES THE JOB DESCRIPTIONS AND SAID FULLOR PART-TIME. >> TO ME. >> THOSE CONVERSATIONS. AND MY MIND SEEK TO FACILITATE PEOPLE DECIDING TO RUN FOR COMMISSION. NOT SO MUCH A JOB DESCRIPTION BUT OVER THE PAST 3 AND A HALF YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN A COMMISSIONER I'VE BEEN APPROACHED BY SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO ARE THINKING OF RUNNING. TO FIGURE OUT. THEY WANT TO DO THE JOB WHAT DOES THAT ENTAIL IS AT FULL TIME OR PART TIME. THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT GO THROUGH SOMEONE'S MIND. BEFORE THEY DECIDE TO RUN ITS. WHAT ARE THE EXPECTATIONS. AND THE WAY I DESCRIBE IT TO PEOPLE AND WHETHER THIS BELONGS AND CHARTER OF LAWNS AND HANDBOOK IF IF YOU LIKE THE APPROACH OF THAT. I'LL LEAVE TO OTHERS TO FIGURE THAT OUT BUT I LOOK AT THE WORK WE DO IN 3 TIERS. BIG THE CORE THE ESSENCE JOB. I'M IN MY MIND IS COMING TO THESE MEETINGS. PREPARED READY TO MAKE DECISIONS. AND AND THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT FUNCTION THAT WE HAVE BUT IT'S WHAT WE DO UP HERE AND WHAT WE DO TO GET READY. FOR THESE CONVERSATIONS SO SO THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT WE DO. SECOND WE ALL EVERY YEAR DISCUSS ASSIGNMENTS. WHERE WE REPRESENT THE CITY OF NORTH PORT USUALLY TO REGIONAL OR STATEWIDE ORGANIZATIONS. IN MY MIND THAT'S REALLY EQUALLY IMPORTANT AS THE FIRST HERE. I WOULDN'T SAY EQUALLY IMPORTANT AND HOW WE REPRESENT THE CITY AND AND GOING INTO THOSE MEETINGS PREPARED. CONVERSATIONS THAT THERE AREN'T HERE. IT'S REALLY OPTIONAL AND MY MIND. AND OUR CITY EVENTS WE ALL GET INVITED TO ALL KINDS OF SAYINGS. SOME OF US TRY TO DO ALL OF THEM. SOME OF OUR HEART LEADS US CERTAIN DIRECTIONS WE WE MIGHT SHOW IT NONPROFIT THINGS SOME OF US MIGHT GO TOWARD A CHAMBER THINGS SO THAT TENDS TO BE I'M MORE A MORE PERSONAL DECISION. HOW MUCH TIME WE GET TO THE JOB. I LOOK AT THAT. IT'S TOTALLY CUSTOMIZABLE WHETHER WE GO OR DON'T GO. IT'S REALLY UP TO US TO DECIDE HOW MUCH TIME WE HAVE THEIR INTERESTS. WHY AND AND I THINK IF SOMEHOW SOME WAY I PERSONALLY DON'T CARE WHERE IT IS IF WE COULD ARTICULATE VERY SIMPLY WITHOUT A WHOLE LOT OF DETAIL. WHAT ARE REALLY THE EXPECTATIONS. COMMISSIONER. AND WHAT'S REALLY THE ESSENCE OF THE JOB AND WHAT WHAT ARE THE OTHER KINDS OF THINGS I MEAN I DON'T KNOW HOW OTHERS FEEL THAT I SPEND AS MUCH TIME. COMMUNITY AND CITY EVENTS AS I DO I'M MAYA THE ROAD. I'M RETIRED I CAN I CAN DO THAT. AND A OUR GOAL IS TO ATTRACT A BROADER RANGE OF BACKGROUNDS. PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING. TO TO MAKE AN ESTIMATE AND AND THIS IS TOUGH TOO BECAUSE HOW LONG IT TAKES US TO PREPARE FOR OUR REGULAR MEETINGS. IS VERY MUCH DEPENDENT ON OUR BACKGROUNDS. SOME TOPICS ARE VERY HARD FOR FOR SOME OF US ARE ALL OF US TO GRASP. BUT. IF WE COULD SORT OF SAY ON AVERAGE DOING THAT TOP LEVEL OF THE JOB WHICH IS THESE MEETINGS AND AND BEING PREPARED AND VOTING ON LAWS RESOLUTIONS TAKES ON AVERAGE ARRANGE THIS TO THIS. THE SECOND PART YOU KNOW WHERE WE REPRESENT THE CITY AT REGIONAL EVENTS TAKES THIS A MOMENT TIME. RANGE AND THE REST OF THAT IT'S REALLY IN MY MIND WHAT MAKES THE JOB EITHER PART-TIME OR FULL-TIME. AND THAT REALLY SHOULD MY MIND BE UP TO THE DISCRETION OF INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONERS PEOPLE LOVE TO HAVE US COME. BUT AGAIN IF WE WANT TO ATTRACT PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT RETIRED. THEN WE NEED TO HAVE SOME WAY OF SHEDDING THEIR EXPECTATIONS WHAT DOES THE JOB REALLY ENTAIL. AND AND I KIND OF FALL ON THE SIDE OF IT CAN BE PART TIME. IT CAN BE FULL TIME. PARTS OF THE JOB AND NON-NEGOTIABLE. AND AND SO THAT'S WHERE I SORT OF COME AT THE JOB DESCRIPTION NOT A STANDARD JOB DESCRIPTION. BUT WATER REALLY THE EXPECTATIONS OF A COMMISSIONER AND IN A RANGE. WHAT SHOULD SOMEONE WHO'S LOOKING AT RUNNING. PREPARED TO INVEST TIME WISE AND THE ROLE IN THE JOB WHETHER HANDBOOK OR WHETHER IT'S ON THE WEBSITE SOME PLACE UP OUR AND THE CHARTER IS IT'S A LESS IMPORTANT TO ME THEN IT IS THAT PROVIDE INFORMATION TO PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN RUNNING THAT IS HELPFUL TO THEM IN TERMS OF MAKING THAT DECISION. SO THAT'S SORT OF WHERE I COME AT IT FROM. YES, PUT MY $0.2 AND I'M GLAD THAT. SO YOU SAID THAT THERE'S NOWHERE. >> AND IN THE COUNTRY THAT ELECTED OFFICIALS JOB AS A DESCRIPTION AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO. BECAUSE. WE ELECT PEOPLE TO REPRESENT OUR BEST INTERESTS TO BE REPRESENTATIVE OF. WHAT PEOPLE WANT AND THAT DOESN'T ALWAYS EQUATE TO THE MAJORITY. IT'S THE BEST JUST HAD A GENTLEMAN UP HERE WAS WASN'T HAPPY WITH THE DECISION BUT AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. I EQUATE THAT TO A GOOD PARENT AND AND AND CHILDREN YOU KNOW IF YOU ASK YOUR KIDS YOU KNOW WHO WANTS TO HAVE ICE CREAM FOR FOR DINNER AND YES, THEY'RE ALL GOING TO SAY SURE BUT IS THAT THE BEST. THANK TO DO AND SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO MAKE THOSE HARD. THAT SHOULD BE A HARD CHOICE RIGHT CARE ABOUT. IT'S IT'S WHAT'S THE BEST INTEREST FOR FOR EVERYONE MAY NOT ALWAYS BE THE MOST POPULAR. >> AND I HAVE TO JUST BE HONEST WITH YOU I'M NOT A FAN OF WHAT GOES ON ON SOCIAL MEDIA. IT'S USUALLY THAT ARE PEOPLE THAT THAT IS PEOPLE WHO ARE UNHAPPY. I LEARNED THAT AND THE DECADES AND LIVED HERE THAT PEOPLE WILL COME OUT WHEN THEY DON'T LIKE SOMETHING WHEN THEY'RE AGAINST SOMETHING IT'S DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE TO COME SAY HEY THIS IS GOOD WE LIKE THIS. THEY'RE NOT THAT YOU KNOW SOME WILL POST ON SOCIAL MEDIA GET SOMETHING IN THEIR MCDONALD BAG, YOU KNOW, AND THIS IS TERRIBLE BUT YOU NOT TO HEAR FROM THE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE GO THROUGH THERE ALL THE TIME AND EVERYTHING IT'S FINE IF THAT'S HOW WE ARE HUMAN NATURE. AND WE TALKED ABOUT ATTRACTING YOUNGER CANDIDATES. YOU KNOW, IT'S IF YOU'RE ELECTED. IT'S A FOUR-YEAR GIG THAT'S IT AND THEN YOU GO BACK TO WHAT I KNOW WHEN I WAS TEACHING. PEOPLE SAID YOU SHOULD RUN AND I SAID I CAN'T AFFORD IT NUMBER ONE BECAUSE THE SALARY WOULD GET A SALARY CUT BUT I WOULD HAVE LOST 4 YEARS. GETTING MY MY STEPS IN TEACHING AND AND SO IT'S NOT JUST FOR THAT. THAT TIME IT'S IT'S IT'S A FOUR-YEAR COMMITMENT BUT AGAIN IT'S SOMEONE WHO REALLY WANTS TO DO THAT AND I HATE TO SIT SAY PUT UP TO PEOPLE AND PEOPLE ARE UNHAPPY TO LISTEN TO THEM AND TO TRY TO GET A COMPROMISE AND THAT DOES TAKE A CERTAIN INDIVIDUAL TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. SO IT'S NOT JUST A JOB. APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATIONS FROM MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS YOU KNOW IT IS. IT IS WHAT IT WHAT IT AND AND THAT THE LED THE COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL BROUGHT THAT UP THERE IS A FORMULA FOR FIGURING THAT OUT. IT'S BASED ON POPULATION RIGHT PART OF THAT SO. BUT LIKE I SAID I'M REALLY GLAD YOU DROP THE WHOLE JOB DESCRIPTIONS THING BECAUSE THEN YOU HAVE THAT JOB DESCRIPTION THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE BENCHMARKS TO HAVE TO HAVE STANDARDS HOW DO YOU KNOW SOMEONE IS FILLING CHOP DESCRIPTION AND AGAIN AS A TEACHER I KNOW THAT THAT WE HAD BENCHMARKS WE HAD A MEET HAD TO BACKED UP WITH TEST. SCORES AND EVERYTHING ELSE BUT YOU KNOW HERE YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT TO END AS COMMISSIONER HE WAS SAYING WE GO OUT AND THE PUBLIC. THAT EVERY TIME GO OUT WE GET A POINT SO MANY POINTS. I I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW YOU WOULD EVEN BEGIN FIGURE THAT OUT. I APPRECIATE THAT YOU HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT, BUT I AGAIN A LOT OF THIS IS FIELD BY PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPRESSING THEIR UNHAPPINESS WITH WHAT THEY SEE. I'M GOING ON. BUT IF YOU IF YOU REALLY I LOOK AT YOU KNOW WHAT'S THE HEART OF THE MATTER AND WAS THAT DECISION MADE AND THE BEST INTEREST OF EVERYBODY. IF IT WASN'T THAT I COULD SEE IT THEY WOULD HAVE. I DON'T I DON'T SEE IT THAT WAY. SO. >> VICE MAYOR BACK TO THAT SAME TOPIC ON THAT SAME YOU KNOW I WISH THE CHARGERS WERE FRONT OF ME, BUT. THE DESCRIPTION. THE JOB IS. IS VERY BROAD THERE'S JUST GENERAL PARAMETERS WHICH IS YOU KNOW. COMMISSIONERS GIVE CORRECTION. WE APPROVED BUDGET. WE HAVE 3 CHARTER OFFICERS REPORT TO US. AND WE ARE. STUART'S OF THE CITIZENS DOLLARS. THAT TO ME IS PRETTY DARN GOOD DESCRIPTION. WELL ENOUGH, AND ALL INCLUSIVE ENOUGH TO ALLOW ANY ELECTED OFFICIAL TO OPERATE IN THEIR CAPACITY AS AN ELECTED. AND THEN BE JUDGED AS MISTER KAREN SAID BY THE PUBLIC. I DON'T SEE THE NEED I THINK CHARTED REAL GOOD JOB I THINK. WHAT IT SAYS SAYS AND I'M KIND OF GOOD WITH ALL THAT. TO THE ISSUE OF COMPENSATION, YOU KNOW. FORMULA SEEMS TO WORK. I MEAN IT'S TRYING NOT TO REINVENT THE WHEEL WORKS AND AND USING STATE METHODOLOGY SEEMS TO BE WORKING ESPECIALLY IN A CITY LIKE OURS WHICH IS GROWING. THERE MIGHT BE YOU KNOW A LOOK AT THE BASE TO SAY YOU KNOW WHEN WHEN COMMISSION LOOKED AT IT. THEN AND PUT IT IN PLACE. USED A FORMULA BUT IT SET UP BASE AND THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT. WELL THAT THEY SHOULD BE SET IT WAS DECIDED TO BE SET AT A CERTAIN NUMBER. IN WHITE INFLATION IN LIGHT OF WHOLE MULTITUDE THINGS PERHAPS THAT'S THE WARNING AREA THAT MIGHT BE LOOKED AT TO SEE F IT MADE SENSE TO ADJUST THAT BASE AND STILL UTILIZING THE SAME FORMULA AND MAYBE THAT WOULD HELP SOLVE PART OF THE PROBLEM ATTRACTING. FOLKS THAT THAT COULD SEE THIS AS A FULL-TIME ENDEAVOR OR FIND THEIR WAY TO BE ABLE LIVE ON THIS SALARY AND AND SOME MINOR OTHER INCOMES, BUT. CERTAINLY THE GOAL. IN SOME WAY SHAPE OR FORM WANT TO BE TO TRY TO ATTRACT A GREATER BASE AND IT'S FOR US PEOPLE TRYING UNDERSTAND WHAT THE JOB IS WELL QUITE FRANKLY I I I SEE A TOTALLY DIFFERENT IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN RUNNING. GET OUT FROM BEHIND KEYBOARD COME IN HERE. WATCH THE MEETINGS. CALL OUT COMMISSIONERS. NOT THE SENSE, BUT ALL I'M OUT IN THE SENSE OF WHAT DO YOU DO HOW ARE YOU DEALING WITH THIS HOW ARE YOU DOING THAT YOUR SYSTEM YOU WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS GET INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS. NOBODY NEEDS TO GET A SPOON FED TO THEM AND CERTAINLY I DON'T THINK WOULD WANT TO ELECT WORST NEED TO BE SPOON-FED SO I TAKE A TOTALLY DIFFERENT APPROACH I DON'T THINK. FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO PONTIFICATE GOD BLESS THEM, THEY'RE ENTITLED TO PASS AMERICAN CAN SAY WHAT YOU WANT. PRETTY MUCH ANYBODY YOU WANT IN ANY WAY YOU WANT BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE QUALIFIED INDIVIDUAL TO RUN FOR OFFICE, FOR GET INVOLVED FIGURE IT OUT. FIND OUT WHAT THE JOB IS WHAT DETAILS AND THEN JUST SAW IT. WHAT COMMITMENT YOUR WANT TO MAKE TO THE CITY PUT YOURSELF OUT THERE WITH THE PEOPLE DECIDE IF YOU'RE WORTH IT, AND IF THEY ELECT IT AND YOU'VE GOT TO PROVE THAT WHAT YOU SAID. THIS WHAT YOU STAND FOR AND TO ME. IF IT BROKEN DON'T FIX. ONLY THING IS IS SOMEHOW WE CAN ATTRACT MORE PEOPLE SO I MAYBE IT'S WORTH LOOKING AT >> DO SOMETHING I WANT FOLLOW-UP. VICE MAYOR WITH THE WANT TO LEARN ABOUT THE JOB WHICH MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS COME OUT TO THE MEETINGS WATCH THE MEETINGS ONLINE ASK QUESTIONS IF PUBLIC TIME THERE'S NO BETTER TEACHER THAN STANDING RIGHT THERE GIVING PUBLIC COMMENT. NO BETTER TEACHER. >> THE OTHER THING IS IS. AS THE ONLY PERSON ON THIS BOARD THAT IS NOT RETIRED IT CAN BE DONE IF THERE'S A WILL I'VE SERVED ON THIS BOARD WITH MANY DIFFERENT BOARDS AND THERE WAS A TIME THE BOARD HAD 3 PEOPLE THAT WERE NOT RETIRE. AND THEY FIGURED IT OUT. IF THERE'S A WILL THERE IS A WAY AND TO PUT COMPENSATION JOB DESCRIPTIONS FULL-TIME PART-TIME IN THE CHARTER BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR BECAUSE YOU MAY JUST REGRET BECAUSE AT SOME POINT. WHAT'S IN THE CHARTER HAS TO BE FOLLOWED. HAS TO BE FOLLOWED TO THE LETTER AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO SAY WELL THIS IS THE GIST OF IT WHO GETS TO DECIDE THE GIST OF IT. THE VOTERS THAT THE CITIZENS STAFF. WHAT IF THE EXPECTATION IS HIGHER IN THIS LEVEL OF TO THAT CITIZEN AND LOWER FOR THAT SAME CITIZEN ON A DIFFERENT SUBJECT. SO IT. I'M TELLING YA IT'S A PATH I REALLY DON'T THINK ALONG IN THE CHARTER. >> IF IT NEEDS TO BE A POLICY. THAT ALL THAT THE COMMISSION MUST ATTEND MEETINGS OR THE COMMISSION MUST DO SOMETHING. THAT'S A VERY STICKY WICKET BECAUSE NOBODY CAN REALLY TELL US HOW TO DO OUR JOB. BECAUSE WE CAN'T BE FIRED. WE CAN BE FIRED BY RECALL WE CAN BE FIRED FOR. >> NOW THAT THE BEST FIRING IS THAT THE ELECTION BOX. WE'RE GETTING TURNED OUT. >> SO >> I JUST CAUTION YOU AND SPENDING TIME ON THIS WITHOUT THINKING OF THE RAMIFICATIONS OF THAT GOING IN. >> ART HER. >> IF THERE'S PEOPLE OUT THERE DOESN'T MATTER WHAT AGE THEY ARE MATTERS WHAT'S HERE. MATTERS WHAT'S IN HERE IF THEY HAVE A DESIRE TO DO THE JOB TO THE BEST OF THEIR ABILITY. THAT'S WHERE IT MATTERS AND IF THEY WANT TO BE A TEACHER THEY WANTED LEARN IT, I'M SITTING IN MEETINGS IF PUBLIC COMMENT STUDY THE BACKUP MATERIALS. TALKED TO SOMEBODY WHO HAS WALKED THE WALK TALK TO ANY ONE OF THEIR FAVORITE COMMISSIONERS PASSED OR OR CURRENT. THEY CAN HELP THEM TO VICE MAYOR'S POINT TO SOMEBODY WHO'S THINKING ABOUT DOING IT. GIVE ME A CALL. I HELP BUT I'M GOING TO DO IT FOR RIGHT. >> OKAY AND I JUST BRING UP A MEMORY I REMEMBER YOU WERE. YOU'RE THINKING UP. >> AT EVERY SINGLE MEDIA MEMBER THAT ONLY >> AND SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HAS IT NOT ON THOSE MEETINGS THAT ARE HEADED. DRY AND SEE WHAT IF THAT'S REALLY SOMETHING YOU CAN STAY THAT NOT JUST SITTING HERE FOR A COUPLE HOURS THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE THINK IT'S IT'S EVERYTHING ELSE. AND IT'S ALSO OTHER MEETINGS THAT MAYBE AREN'T SO GLAMOROUS I HATE THAT'S WHAT YOU DO SAY, YES THAT'S RIGHT SO FOR ONE BUT JUST BECAUSE THEY WANT FOR A MOMENT TO COMMISSIONER LANGDON IS POINT. >> THERE'S A LOT OF PREPARATION THAT HAPPENS BEHIND THE SCENES, THERE'S A LOT OF MEETINGS TO PREPARE A BEHIND THE SCENES FOR EACH ONE OF THESE COMMISSION MEETINGS THAT WE HAD 10 EACH ONE OF US. DO IT TO A DIFFERENT LEVEL IN A DIFFERENT DEGREE AND THERE'S NO RIGHT OR WRONG WAY TO DO IT. >> HE GOT A PRETTY GOOD. YEAH, YEAH, THAT WOULD THINK THAT WE BEAT IT TO THAT'S GOOD. BUT IT'S GOOD THAT COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL BROUGHT UP A REALLY GOOD WITH THOSE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF BEHIND THE SCENES THAT PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE IS GREAT THINGS >> AND THAT WE HAVE WHAT WE NEED. THE DEPARTMENT'S WEEK MEET WITH EACH AND THEY HAVE TO MEET WITH US SEPARATELY THOSE ARE SO 5 SEPARATE MEETINGS, THEY HAVE TO HAVE A YEAH AND PEOPLE THINK IT TAKES ALONG WITH THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE HAVE AN AGENDA BRIEFING. THAT STAFF HAS TO BE THERE FOR 5 DIFFERENT HOURS AT TO TALK TO US SO AND THOSE ARE THINGS THAT PEOPLE DON'T SAY THANKS FOR FOR BRINGING THAT HAVE COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL I WANT TO MOVE ON TO. POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING ADDING SECTION TO THE CITY CHARTER REGARDING PUBLIC COMMENT. WHAT IS WHAT IS THAT ALL ABOUT. >> I EVEN ANSWER QUESTION, SOMEBODY BROUGHT MEETINGS THAT WE SHOULD LOOK AT IT WE HAVE DISCUSSED THAT YET IT'S NOT OUR HIGHEST PRIORITY. SO AT THIS POINT I CAN'T GIVE YOU A GOOD ANSWERS TO WHAT THE REST OF THE BOARD WAS THINKING ABOUT. >> BELIEVE THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME UP SHORTLY I CAME ON THE BOARD AND THERE TALKS ABOUT PEOPLE THAT DON'T RESIDE IN THE CITY COMING UP AND TALKING AT PUBLIC COMMENT. I BELIEVE SOME OF THE COMMENTS WERE. THE PERSON MIGHT BE COMING IN PUBLIC COMMENT ON SOMETHING BECAUSE THEY MIGHT BE LOOKING TO MOVE INTO THE CITY AND THEY HAVE A VESTED FUTURE INTEREST IN WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE CITY. I THINK THAT WAS EVENTUALLY SHOT DOWN THAT WE WANT SIT THERE AND DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT ONE AS WELL. >> BECAUSE ANYONE IS AMENDED TO GIVE A PUBLIC COMMENT ANY YOU CAN GO TO ANY TOWN IN THIS STATE OR COUNTRY CAN GIVE THE PUBLIC ALL RIGHT IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU'RE A. >> YOU KNOW NOT ACTUALLY OWN PROPERTY OUT OVER NOW YOU KNOW YOU DON'T THE REASON WHAT PERSONS COMING UP THERE AND HOW YOU CAN THERE THAT WHAT THEIR REASONS FOR COMING UP >> PROBABLY WILL DISAPPEAR UP OUR AGENDA RATHER QUICKLY NEXT ONE THAT I'M SORRY FALL OFF THEIR AGENDA TO WE NEED TO WEIGH IN ON THAT I I WOULD LIKE WEIGH >> THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS WITH THE CITY CLERK JUST RECENTLY I THINK IT WAS A WEEK OR ABOUT PUBLIC COMMENT. CONSTITUTIONAL WHY IS FIRST AMENDMENT. >> AND THEY WEIGHED IN ON THAT SO MAYBE WHAT CAN DO IS SHARE THAT MEMO WITH THEM. SO THAT WAY THEN THEY CAN SEE WHAT THE CITY WAS >> PINEY IN GIVING THEIR LEGAL OPINION NOT. SO I I DON'T I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU GUYS MAY NOT YOU WHERE DO YOU USE WHAT YOU MAY NOT MOVE THIS UP AND YOU MAY NOT DISCUSS IT MAYBE THIS WILL HELP YOU IN THAT REGARD. I DON'T KNOW A SENATOR IT CAN HURT TO US THAT INFORMATION TO BELIEVE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AS WELL IN THE MEETING CONCERNING FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS AND THAT YOU CAN'T STOP SOMEBODY FROM BEING ABLE THE CITY ATTORNEY AND. >> THIS BROUGHT THAT UP DURING THE MEETING SAYING THAT THAT'S SLIPPERY SLOPE THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO GO BECAUSE OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS FREEDOM OF SPEECH. >> SO I DON'T KNOW DO WE NEED A CONSENSUS TO OKAY. THANK YOU. >> MANAGED ONE JUST VERY BRIEFLY, I KNOW I REALLY AM. I REALLY TO LIKE THE APPROACH THIS CITY TAKEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT THERE OR A NEW SQUARE. YOU KNOW PEOPLE NEITHER SPEAK ONLY AT THE BEGINNING THEY SPEAK ONLY AT THE THERE'S A FOR THINGS WE LIFT PEOPLE PRETTY MUCH SPEAK. AT THE BEGINNING AT THE WITH THE JUDGE AND THE I THINK DO GOOD JOB TRYING TO OFFER UP TO OUR CITIZENS, THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO ISSUES AND TO SPEAK TO US IN GENERAL. AND SO YOU KNOW, I'M PRETTY PLEASED WITH THAT I THINK WE DO A GOOD JOB AND YOU KNOW I KNOW IT'S FRUSTRATING SOME FOLKS WHO FEEL THEY CAN ASK QUESTIONS AND HAVE A GIVE AND TAKE BUT YOU KNOW THAT'S WHAT ONE ON ONES AND TOWN HALLS ARE FOR AND AND AND YOU KNOW. CITIZENS REALLY WANT TO ENGAGE ONE-ON-ONE BASIS COULD DO IT THE SUNSHINE MAKES IT TOUGH TO DO THAT IT'S A GROUP SO YOU KNOW SOMETIMES WHERE WE CAN TALK AMONG OURSELVES, BUT CITIZENS ARE ALWAYS WELCOME TO COME AT US ONE ON ONE AND THEY DO AND THEY DO MANY OF US MAY WITH PEOPLE REGULARLY ON THERE ARE A VARIETY OF SUBJECTS SO I THINK WE DO A NICE JOB WITH IT AGAIN ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE. THANK THANKS. BROKE DON'T FIX IT. IT OK. >> SO WE CAN MOVE ON CONSTABLE DISCUSSION POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING OPTION FOR REFERENDUM RELATED TO THE CITY'S AUTHORITY TO ISSUE BOUGHT THIS IS PRIMARY FOR WORKING ON. >> AND PROBABLY WILL CONTINUE UNTIL WE COME UP WITH A DECISION. PRETTY MUCH OUR OPINION THIS. SHOULD YOU NEED HELP. IT NEEDS MONEY FOR EMERGENCIES THAT IT CAN GET RIGHT NOW BECAUSE ANY MONEY ALMOST TEST REFERENDUM. I THINK IF NOTHING ELSE. OKAY WE HAD GOING COMING THROUGH HERE. IT APPROVED TO A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT YOU NEED MONEY IN A HURRY AND EMERGENCY. AND YOU DON'T HAVE TIME TO GO FOR SO WE NEED TO COME UP WITH SOME SOLUTION SO THAT PROBLEM AND THAT'S A GOOD DR. OUR POINT ACTION FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR COME UP WITH IT. AND THAT PRETTY MUCH LIKE THEY WITH YOUR OPINIONS ARE ALSO WE CAN COMBINE EVERYTHING. >> ITS DRAFT REFERENDUM THOUGHT THERE WAS. >> YES CITY MANAGER IS WORKING ON A DRAFT REFERENDUM, I'VE LIKE TO SUGGEST. >> I'M OR ARE DID DISCUSS THIS PRIOR TO THIS BEING SENT OUT IT WAS LIKE RIGHT AT THE SAME TIME WE APPROVED REPORT AND THIS DISCUSSION ITEMS ON THEIR AGENDA. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S OF THE BIG DID DISCUSS THIS ITEM WE ARE HAVING FRIEND ON THIS QUESTION. THAT TO HAVE CITY MANAGER. I WAS GOING TO SAY. >> SO BASED ON OUR RECOMMENDATION OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS NEXT WORKS 26. WE'RE NOT RECOMMENDING THAT YOU FOLLOW THIS PATH WAY OF GETTING THIS AUTHORITY. IN OF NOVEMBER, 24. >> WE DO BELIEVE IF YOU ASK FOR THIS AUTHORITY WHICH IS BEING DISCUSSED IN ADDITION TO THE NEEDS. BUT THE POLICE STATION THAT THE POLICE STATION. THEY FAIL. >> WE HAVE A COMBINED OUR ASK 24. IN AN. TO ART. BOTH INVOLVING. POLICE HEADQUARTERS. WE BELIEVE. AGREE THEY NEED IN THE COMMISSION AGREE WITH THE NEED OF CHANGING THE CHARTER LED US TO THIS POINT. IF WE HAVE TO CHEW WE CHOOSE THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS FIRST AND THE CHARTER 2ND. THAT'S OUR MISSION. >> IF I'M AT WHAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE CHARTER REVIEW BOARD WHEN YOU TOOK A LOOK AT WE RECOMMENDED IT, BUT WE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT ADDITION TO THE POLICE STATION SO WE WERE JUST GOING ALONG WITH THE IDEA THAT. WE HAD HAVE SOME KIND OF A REFERENDUM. GORDON WELL FOR THE CHARTER CHANGE TO POINT WHERE. X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS SHOULD BE AVAILABLE WITHOUT GOING TO A RECORD REFERENDUM. EVERY TIME YOU NEED. AND THAT'S WHAT WE WERE AND AS FAR AS THE AMOUNT WE PUT HIM OUT ON THERE. BUT IT WAS ARE FEELING POINT THAT. YOU DEAL WITH THE CITIZENS MORE THAN WE DO. AND YOU DEAL WITH BUDGET MORE THAN WE DO. WE'LL DEAL WITH IT AT ALL. SO YOU'VE PROBABLY BE BEST ONES TO DETERMINE THE EXACT YOU WOULD WANT TO PUT ON BUT WE'RE ALSO WE ADOPTED SOMETHING FROM THE COUNTY AND STATING THAT EVERY YEAR THAT AMOUNT WOULD INCREASE BY THE AMOUNT THE CPA CPI GOES UP SO IT WOULD NOT BE STATIC THINK YOU WOULD INCREASE EVERY YEAR BASED ON THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX. AND THAT'S WHAT THE COUNTY DOES. >> IT WAS PRIOR TO US. GETTING IN THE RECENT WEEKS REGARDING THE NEED FOR THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS. WE HAVE PROPOSED SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR TO THIS BOARD WHERE THEY WILL LATER WHO DID IT WE THE COUNTY'S MODEL OF BEING ABLE TO BALL 20 MILLION DOLLARS PER PROJECT. SO WE THOUGHT THAT THE BEST WAY FOR THE VOTERS TO APPROVE IT WOULD BE TO SEE THAT WE WERE MODELING SOMEONE WITH ALREADY SUCCESSFUL IN DOING IT. YEAH SO WE WERE WE WERE FULLY ON THAT BORDER WE GET BACK ON THAT PATHWAY WE WILL PROBABLY GO BACK. >> TO THE SAME PLACE WHERE WE LEFT IT WAS TRULY JUST THE MATTER. THEN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PAY FOR THAT DECISION. >> I WAS REASONABLE WE'RE WILLING TO LOOK AT IT. ALL RIGHT. >> AND THAT'S GOOD CITY MANAGER BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE COUNTY MODEL THAT SO THAT WE'RE NOT. >> PAVING ANY NEW. >> ASKED HERE AT OFFICES, ALMOST STANDARD PRACTICE FOR OTHER MUNICIPALITIES I YOU HAVE SOME. AS WE ALL KNOW NORTH PORT. >> MUCH THE ONLY CITY I KNOW OF THE STATE THAT. THAT'S NO ABILITY TO BORROW MONEY. YOU KNOW APPRECIATING THE EFFORTS AND THE WORK YOU FOLKS IT TO LOOK AT MODELING SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THE COUNTY. IT IT IN PERHAPS A DIFFERENT REALITY. THAT'S CERTAINLY NOT OUTSIDE PARAMETERS REASONABLENESS. I I WOULD URGE I AM. GREATLY PLEASED THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE MEETING TO DISCUSS AND LEARN MORE ABOUT FROM REFERENDUM. MAJORITY OF THE SPORT REALLY DO. HAVE NOT BEEN BRIEFED DO NOT UNDERSTAND IT REALLY HAVE NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE IN SUFFOLK DISCUSSION REGARDING IT I WOULD FALL ICE AND I THINK IT'S RIGHT THAT YOU GUYS HEAR IT FROM MEMBER OF OUR STAFF WELL WERE FIRST ON THIS. TAKE A LOOK AT IT. I TRULY BELIEVE IT REPRESENTS OPTION. TO LOOK AT. I SUPPOSE TO THAT STANDARD MODELING THAT THE COUNTY HAS REMEMBER WHERE ARE FACING THE REALITY. OUR CITIZENS ARE VERY COMFORTABLE AND HAPPENED CITIES EXCEPTION BASICALLY WITH ABLE TO APPROVE EVERY DOLLAR. THIS CITY FOR US. THE FACT THAT. THAT HAMSTRING JUST THE FACT THAT THAT MAKES IT EXTREMELY DIFFICULT. REALLY FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE SOMEWHAT IRRELEVANT. HAVE THAT CONTROL. AND SO IN APPROACHING THIS ISSUE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE BABY STEP IT AND THAT. THAT TRUST CAN BE BUILT OVER TIME AND PERMISSIVE REFERENDUMS CAN ALLOW THAT BY NOT. ASKING THEM TO RELINQUISH CONTROL. BUT AT THE SAME TIME CREATING SOME FLEXIBILITY. IF THERE'S PUBLIC SUPPORT FOR PARTICULAR PROJECTS ARE BORING. MORE THAN THAT'S NOT WORTH GOING INTO BECAUSE YOU GUYS NEED TO DO YOUR HOMEWORK ON IT AND WE NEED TO AS A BOARD TO OUR WORK. I THINK IT'S UP TO ABOUT DELIGHTED THAT THIS IS NOT TO BE A NOVEMBER ISSUE BECAUSE IT'S WAY TOO PREMATURE. YOU KNOW, MAYBE. 26 BUT IT GIVES PLENTY OF TIME TO FIGURE THIS OUT BECAUSE OUR CITIZENS. HOLD DEARLY. TO THEIR RIGHT TO CONTROL THE PURSE STRINGS. MUCH TO THE DETRIMENT OF THE CITY IT I HAVE TO SAY IT AND I KNOW THAT FOR MANY IN THE PUBLIC THEY LOVE IT. THEY BELIEVE IN IT THEY DON'T WANT TO EVER GIVEN OUT, BUT IT PUTS SUCH AN ONEROUS BURDEN ON THE LEADERSHIP OF THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE PROPERLY. AND IT COSTS US MONEY TAX DOLLARS AND IT COSTS US TIME. AND I THINK THAT LOOKING AT THIS ALTERNATIVE. 80 OF FERRY. NOT ACCEPTABLE BUT MAY BE UP MORE AMENABLE. MIDDLE STEP AND SO I URGE TO. LEARN WHAT YOU CAN ABOUT. MISTER LINE. >> BUT THEN KIND OF BOUNCING ALL PLACE ON TIME OKAY WITH I SO CONCUR WITH. VICE MAYOR'S COMMENTS SO I DON'T HAVE ANY NEED REPAY THEM. DOW >> GLAD TO HEAR THAT THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE ON NOVEMBER'S REFERENDUM. IF THE FOCUS IS ON PD THE FOCUS SHOULD BE MPD IN IT LIKE I SAID AT MEETING THAT'S GOING TO MUDDY THE WATERS. GLAD THAT THIS IS NOT TO BE ON NOVEMBER FOR THAT CHARTER REFERENDUM. SO WE CAN FOCUS ON. PRIORITIES. LOOK FORWARD TO THAT CONVERSATION. >> DID YOU SAY END OF THIS MONTH ANYTHING. ♪ ♪ >> OKAY NEXT ONE IS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING AMENDING SECTION 2.0 ONE OF THE CITY CHARTER REGARDING FORM OF GOVERNMENT AND COMPOSITION WHO WANTS TO. >> THAT WAS HAHA SO ALL OF THAT MIGHT PUT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME EVER LIVE IN A PLACE WHERE WE DIDN'T HAVE A STRONG THERE. YOU KNOW AN ELECTED POSITION. I'VE NEVER HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO MISTER FLETCHER BUT IN SOME WAYS THE WHAT VIEWERS IS ACTING AS A MAYOR. AND HIS ACTIONS AND I THINK THAT. IT'S WORTHY OF A DISCUSSION OF THE GROUP AND WE DID IT WE HAVE NOT SUE THIS AT ALL. I JUST WANT TO GET OUT AS A DISCUSSION TO SAY. SHOULD THE CITY MOVE TOWARDS A MAYOR AND THEN DEPARTMENT OR COMMISSION'S REPORT I CAME FROM A TOWN IN BOLINGBROOK WE HAVE VERY STRONG THERE. HE THINK THE RECALL COMMISSIONERS I CAN'T REMEMBER BUT HE HAD 5 OR 6 PEOPLE WHO REPRESENTED VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS THAT REPRESENTED POLICE FIRE. I DON'T THINK SO I JUST WANT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE GROUP TO DISCUSS. WITH THAT THERE WAS AN INTEREST PURSUING IT FURTHER TALK ABOUT IT. NOW THAT MIGHT PUT ALL THROUGHOUT OUT. SO MAYBE APPROVING US TALKING ABOUT IT. IT'S NOT IN YOUR BEST INTEREST BUT IT'S IT'S SOMETHING I THINK THAT IS WORTHY OF A DISCUSSION. I JUST HAD A QUESTION THAT WHAT WHAT PROMPTED. >> THAT THIS. >> WE THIS COME UP. HIS OF ME. >> IT'S JUST MY VIEW OF THE CITY AND PLACES YOU KNOW AND. IT'S JUST IT'S A FORM OF GOVERNMENT. I'M COMFORTABLE WITH. SO SO IT'S NOT THAT I'M UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THIS ARRANGEMENT. BUT A MORE COMFORTABLE WITH. LIKE I SAID ROGER AND I WAS WITH THE MAYOR OF MY FORMER TOWN WE'RE GOOD FRIENDS HE WAS A VERY GOOD MAYOR. AND THE CITY PROPER. HE DIDN'T HAVE THE RESTRICTIONS THAT THIS GROUP WITH LETTING THE PEOPLE DICTATE HOW MUCH HOW MUCH MONEY YOU CAN SPEND. AND IT WORKED OUT WELL, BUT THAT ALSO MEANS GETTING THE RIGHT PERSON IN THAT POSITION. YEAH THAT. >> I THINK WHY IT STRONG MAYOR POSITION WITH AN APPROPRIATE SALARY. YOU GET VERY SLIGHT CANDIDATES FOR THAT THEN IT'S UP TO THE ELECTORATE TO DECIDE. THERE WAS NO DECISION MADE BY THIS GROUP AS TOO. WHETHER DOING OR NOT TO RECOMMEND CHARTER CHANGE WE DO I JUST WANT TO GET IT ON THE TABLE FOR SOME FOR US TO TALK ABOUT ALL RIGHT. THANK AND YOU KNOW NORTH PORT AND THROWN THEIR ARMS ARE PORT. CITY DID HAVE A STRONG MAYOR TO RIDE IN THAT POINT. SO I DON'T KNOW ALL THIS THERE IS A REASON WHY IT'S PEOPLE VOTED. THEY HAVE. >> IS FORM OF YES. >> YEAH, BUT JUST IT WAS REASON THE VALUJET IS A LOT OF DON'T INFORM HIM OUTSIDE YOUR MEETING. BECAUSE THIS IS YOUR VOTING ISSUE THAT'S WE KNOW THE SUNSHINE AS YOU DO TRENT MAYOR THAT WOULDN'T HERE >> YOU KNOW YOU HAVE PROBABLY THE NEWEST COMMISSIONER ON THIS OR YOU KNOW I TRIED TO DO MY OWN WORK BEFORE AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND THIS FORM A GOVERNMENT AND. THE VAST MAJORITY OF MUNICIPALITY, CITIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE. OUR FORM OF GOVERNMENT WE MAY GOVERNMENT IT'S A COMMISSION SLASH. MANAGEMENT EYE OF GOVERNMENT. AND IT WORKS EXTREMELY WELL IN MOST CITIES. STRONG MAYOR. HE ONLY NEED TO LOOK TO CERTAIN PLACES LIKE NEW YORK AND A NUMBER OF OTHER CITIES AROUND THIS SEASON HAPPENED THANK YOU HAVE AN EXTREMELY STRONG MAYOR WHO'S ABLE TO GARNER A POPULAR. >> SUPPORT AND SURROUND HIM OR HERSELF WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE LIKE-MINDED AND IT'S A RECIPE IN MY OPINION FOR DISASTER. THIS IS A GREAT FORM A GOVERNMENT BECAUSE. THE COMMISSION HIRES. THEY CONSIDER TO BE A PROFESSIONAL MANAGER. WE HAVE ALMOST 900 PROBABLY OVER 900 NOW. WORKERS IN THIS CITY EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY SINCE 8. IN A PURSE IN IN A MANNER OF SPEAKING AGE YOU ORGANIZATION HAS TO BE RUN. IN VERY PROFESSIONAL MANNER. WHICH I DON'T BELIEVE THE AVERAGE ELECTED OFFICIAL AROUND THIS COUNTRY IN ANY VENUE HAS THE CAPABILITY OR TALENT TO DO PERSONALLY I MEAN ALL MY CORPORATE EXPERIENCE AND ALL MY BUSINESS EXPERIENCE. I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN THOSE SHOES ON AND SO WHEN YOU HIRE A PROFESSIONAL AND THEN THAT PROFESSIONAL AND TURNS FIRES. A TEAM OF PROFESSIONALS TO RUN THEIR DEPARTMENTS, ONE ONLY NEEDS TO LOOK AT HIGH CALIBER OF EXPERTISE WE HAVE IN THE CITY NOW THAT DOESN'T MEAN COMMISSION ALWAYS AGREES WITH THE PUBLIC ALWAYS AGREES THAT PROPOSITION AND EVERY PROPOSAL BUT. IT CREATES A LEVEL PROFESSIONALISM AND EXPERTISE THAT ALLOWS THE CITY OF OUR SIZE WITH A QUARTER OF BILLION DOLLARS WORTH TAX DOLLARS. YOU KNOW IT GIVES ME SOME COMFORT THAT WE'VE GOT A PROFESSIONAL GROUP RUNNING AND WE'VE GOT ELECTED OFFICIALS REPRESENT. THE CITIZENS. WATCHING OVER THOSE DOLLARS AND HELPING TO DIRECT WHERE THEY GET SPENT. AND TO BE ABLE TO CONTROL A LITTLE BIT THE REINS IT IS A GREAT BALANCE SYSTEM. REALLY DOES I THINK WORK WELL AND ESPECIALLY IN AN ENVIRONMENT GROWING CITY LIKE A SQUARE WE WERE PRETTY MUCH A BEDROOM COMMUNITY AND NOW GROWN INTO SMALL SIDE CITY. I MEAN IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO REALLY LOOK BACK INTO HISTORY TO SEE. AND THIS NOT TO BE DISPARAGING BUT THAT BUT THE EDUCATIONAL LEVELS AND THE EXPERIENCE LEVELS OF PEOPLE WHO STEPPED UP TO REPRESENT OUR CITY. AND CAME ON THIS COMMISSION TRYING TO DO THE BEST THEY COULD FOR THE CITIZENS WITHOUT ALL. MANAGEMENT ORGANIZATION. IT WILL BE REAL TOUGH FOR THOSE PEOPLE. WHAT MADE SOME OF THE DECISIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE UP ALL THOSE DECISIONS PART WORK GREAT DECISIONS, BUT BUT YOU SEE WHERE I'M AT AND SO I REALLY I AM SO SUPPORTIVE OF THIS FORM A GOVERNMENT. I I AM SOMEONE WE USE IN THE SYSTEM AND WORKING WITHIN THE SYSTEM. BUT I DON'T BELIEVE IN CENTRALIZED AUTHORITY AND POWER IN ANY ONE PERSON AND I THINK THAT'S DANGER TO DO I THINK IT'S TOO EASY FOR FOR YOU KNOW THE ONE OR 2 GREAT LEADERS. TO OVERWHELMED BY A MYRIAD OF MEDIOCRE AND SPECIAL INTERESTS LEADERS AND WE ONLY NEED TO LOOK AROUND AT THE STATE LEVEL AND THE FEDERAL LEVEL TO SEE THAT EVERYWHERE WE LOOK SO FRANKLY I THINK THIS IS THE GREATEST FORM A GOVERNMENT AND WE'RE NOT PERFECT. BUT WE SHOULD BE AT ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S OUT THERE IN MY OPINION. SO FOX ALL RIGHT THAT I'M SURE SHIRLINGTON. >> THE PROBLEM THAT SAY ALL THE TIME BECAUSE WE SORT OF HAVE A MIND MELD EVERYTHING HE SAID AND AND I'LL PROBABLY SAY IT A LITTLE MORE ONE WAY. WHEN YOU PUT DECISION-MAKING AND POWER IN THE HANDS OF POLITICIANS, THEY TEND TO MAKE POLITICAL DECISIONS. WHEN YOU HAVE A PROFESSIONAL CITY MANAGER AND A PROFESSIONAL STAFF. >> THEY. >> MORE OFTEN THAN NOT COME AT IT FROM WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO EXECUTE OR IMPLEMENT SOMETHING WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE BEST AND MOST EFFICIENT WAY OF DOING SOMETHING AND NOT BEING INFLUENCED BY POLITICAL PRESSURE. >> SO I AGREE I. >> I REALLY LIKE OUR OF GOVERNMENT I GREW UP IN THE CITY OF BOSTON. DO I REALLY NEED TO SAY ANY MORE STRONG MAYOR TO COUNCIL WITH GEOGRAPHIC REPRESENTATIONS SO A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM HAVING A COMMISSIONER OVER POLICE AND THEN OPENED FIRE. AND IT CAN WORK WELL. IT'S FRAUGHT WITH. SO I MEAN I WOULDN'T WANT WORK ON THAT. BUT BUT I THINK PART OF THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE. WHEN. WHEN DO YOU KNOW WHEN A MUNICIPALITY IS READY FOR THAT KIND OF MOVE. IF EVER I WHAT KIND OF. >> BENCHMARKS DO YOU NEED TO SEE. DO WE NEED A CERTAIN LEVEL RESIDENT PARTICIPATION AND THINGS DO WE NEED TO SAY I MEAN IT. >> IF WE HAD. >> FOLKS CLAMORING FOR OUR JOBS. IT'S NOT A JOB BUT IF WE HAD PEOPLE LINED UP TO RUNNING FOR POSITIONS, MAYBE THAT'S WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT A STRONG MAYOR, BUT BUT AT THIS. >> AND IT'S AT THIS JUNCTURE IN OUR CITY'S HISTORY. I DON'T WANT TO SAY APATHY. BUT BUT THE REALITY OF PEOPLE'S SITUATIONS IS THAT THEY'RE JUST NOT HIGHLY ENGAGED. AND THE GOVERNMENT PROCESS AND I THINK THEY NEED A CERTAIN LEVEL OF YOU KNOW IF I WERE LOOKING BENCHMARKS. TO BE ABLE TO SAY OK MAYBE WE'RE REALLY READY TO ENTERTAIN THAT FORM OF GOVERNMENT THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THEM. I MEAN I WOULD WANT TO SEE A VERY HIGH PARTICIPATION AND RUNNING FOR OFFICE. AND RESIDENT PARTICIPATION ON I'M ALWAYS AMAZED AT. YOU KNOW WE HAVE OUR BUDGET MEETINGS THAT'S CRICKET TEAM HERE. I MEAN THE MOST IMPORTANT CONVERSATIONS WE HAVE AROUND BUDGET AND NEW PEOPLE ON HERE. TO GIVE US FEEDBACK ON THAT SO I DON'T KNOW I'M I'M I'M NOT A GOVERNMENT PERSON. THAT THAT'S SORT MY I THINK WE'RE WORKING REALLY REALLY WELL AS CITY. I THINK WE HAVE GOOD DIVERSITY ON THIS BOARD AND THAT'S WORKING WELL. BUT THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF MY CONCERN ENTERTAINING A STRONG MAYOR FORM OF GOVERNMENT AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME. BUT BUT I'D BE OPEN TO THE CONVERSATION. COMMISSIONER NOW. I WOULD TO THE CONVERSATION. I COME FROM CHICAGO. AS I YOU'RE FROM CHICAGO AND YOU SAID BOLINGBROOK WHICH IS A SUBURB OF CHICAGO. >> THERE'S A DIFFERENT BOLINGBROOK I WAS CHICAGO THAT. >> I DON'T NEED TO TELL ANYBODY SITTING UP HERE HOW WELL THEY'RE STRONG MAYOR FORM OF GOVERNMENT IS WORKING. >> LACK THEREOF ALL RIGHT WHEN YOU GIVE ONE PERSON THAT MUCH POWER AND THAT MUCH AUTHORITY YOU ARE GOING TO GET EVERYTHING YOU IT. AND THAT SHOULD BE THE END OF THAT DISCUSSION. PART OF THE PROBLEM IS. WHEN PEOPLE COME FROM OTHER PLACES. ALL WE HAD A MAYOR. WELL MAYOR STRONG MAYOR. MAKES ALL THE DECISIONS. AND THE COUNCIL IF THERE IS ONE SOMETIMES THERE ISN'T EVEN THAT THERE'S THERE'S NO REPRESENTATION. THEY COME TO NORTH PORT MAY HERE. WE HAVE A MAYOR. I WAS MAYOR. YOU WERE MAYOR YOU ARE MAYOR YOU'RE GOING TO BE AT SOME POINT. HERE WE HAVE A MAYOR AND THEY THINK THE MAYOR MAKES ALL THOSE DECISIONS THAT'S NOT HOW OUR GOVERNMENT WORKS. WE USED TO BEING CALLED CHAIR. THE MAYOR USED TO BE CALLED THE CHAIR. THE CHAIR DOES EXACTLY WHAT THIS MAYOR CEREMONIAL MEETINGS USE THE GAVEL SIGNS OF DOCUMENTS. FIGUREHEAD FOR THE GREET SOME OF THE CITY. MAKES THE SPEECHES. IF ANYTHING. I WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY FAVOR OF GOING BACK TO CHAIR. YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY THAT CHANGE TO MAYOR. BECAUSE A MAYOR. CHAIR WANTED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF MAYORS, BUT COULDN'T BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T HAVE THE TITLE OF MAYOR. SO WE PUT IT OUT FOR A REFERENDUM TO CHANGE IT TO MAYOR. EVERYBODY I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE PEOPLE THAT VOTED YES, BUT IT PASSED. BUT THEY ALL THOUGHT THAT WE HAD A LIKE WHAT EVERYBODY THINKS OF A MAYOR FROM THESE LARGE CITIES SO THE MAYOR OF CHICAGO, THE MAYOR OF NEW YORK THE MAYOR BUST IN THE MIRROR. IT RELIES DID NOT CHANGE A DARN THING OF THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES. SO WOOD ABSOLUTELY BE WELCOME TO THE CONVERSATION OF GOING BACK TO CHAIR LIKE THEY DO WITH THAT COUNTY. IT'S CHAIR OF THE MEETING THE CHAIR IS THE PERSON WHO'S IN CHARGE OF THE MEETINGS. I NEED THE DOCUMENTS AND BE IN THE FIGUREHEAD MAKING THE LITTLE SPEECHES. BECAUSE THAT WOULD ALLEVIATE SO MANY CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS OUT THERE. THE IMPRESSIONS THAT EVERYBODY HAS. IT'S NOT THAT KIND OF MAYOR WE SPEND MORE TIME THAT FIRST WHEN WE HAVE A CHANGING OF THE MAYOR BECAUSE IT'S ONLY FOR ONE YEAR. EXPLAINING WHAT THE MAYOR US. BECAUSE EVERYBODY BRINGS THOSE PRECONCEIVED NOTIONS DOWN AND APPLIES IT HERE. SO I WOULD BE MORE IN FAVOR OF GOING BACK TO CALLING IT A CHAIR. COURSE IT WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE VOTERS BECAUSE THAT THEN REMOVES. ALL OF UNINTENDED BURBAGE THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH MAYOR. THERE ARE MANY MANY CITIES THAT HAVE TARIFFS. WHAT A CHAIR WELL NOW WE GET TO EXPLAIN WHAT A CHAIR CHAIR RUNS THE MEETINGS. 85% OF THE CITIES IN FLORIDA ARE COMMISSION CITY MANAGER FORM OF GOVERNMENT, 85. ALL RIGHT IT WAS ONE CITY THAT HAD THE MAYOR. AND IT WAS A SMALLER CITY. THEY HAD ALL THE POWER TO DO EVERYTHING AND THAT CITY THEN CHANGE TO CITY MANAGER COMMISSION FORM A GOVERNMENT. TO REMOVE ONE PERSON FROM HAVE IF THEY THINK IT'S BAD HAVING 5 PEOPLE IN CONTROL OF THE CITY. IMAGINE A LIKE HAVING ONE. IT JUST DOESN'T WORK. 10% OF THE CITIES IN FLORIDA HAVE STRONG MARRIAGE. AND THOSE ARE USUALLY THE LARGER CITIES. TAMPA JACKSONVILLE, MIAMI. TALLAHASSEE HAS STRONG THERE. AND THERE'S ONLY ABOUT 5% THAT ARE KIND OF A HYBRID. DON'T EVEN ASK ME WHAT THAT HYBRID LOOKS LIKE BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A SMALL NUMBER OF THE 11 CITIES A NURSE IN OUR STATE. I WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF LOOKING AT BECOMING A STRONG MAYOR BEEN THERE DONE THAT DON'T WANT TO DO IT AGAIN. YES, I JUST WANTED TO. >> TO SAY I I THAT THE ISSUES AND. WHEN I MOVED HERE. >> I WANT THE POPULATION IN MIND. I'M LIKE 20,000 BEST AND THAT MAY BE 70 THINGS ISSUES HAVE GOTTEN SO COMPLEX >> KHAN POLLUTED THAT WE NEED TO HAVE PEOPLE IN PLACE THAT AND AND FIGURE OUT A PLAN AND THAT'S BE ON SOMEONE WHO JUST GETS ELECTED TO OH YES, I'LL I'LL DO THAT NOW FIGURE OUT BUDGET I MEAN IT'S JUST EVEN GOING OVER THE BUDGET TODAY. SO MANY MOVING PARTS TO IT. >> YOU KNOW I MAKE NO BONES ABOUT HOW MUCH I OUR OUR STAFF CITY MANAGER. THAT YOU KNOW THEY THEY COME TO THE TABLE WITH INFORMATION AND YOU KNOW THAT IT'S BACKED UP WITH. AND WE HAD OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT HERE LOOKING THROUGH THOSE THEY JUST DON'T LIKE HOW COULD SOME ONE PERSON DO AND JUST SAID YEAH, I'M I WAS LIKE THE MAYOR I'M GOING TAKE THIS BUDGET AND WE CAN TELL YOU WHAT TO DO. IN AGREEMENT WITH IN 2000 THAT LIKE OUR FORM OF GOVERNMENT I THINK IT'S IT'S IT A SHE SAID WHEN THE CITY A MAYOR IT WAS NOT IT WAS NOT GOOD THAT'S THIS WHOLE ABOUT THE HATCH. THAT'S WHY PEOPLE VOTED TO HAVE WHAT WE HAVE NOW AND EVEN THAT WAS THAT WAS LEARNING PROCESS, I KNOW SOME OF THE FOR CITY MANAGERS WANT QUITE IS CITY MANAGERS REALLY WILL HAVE A BACKGROUND FINANCE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT YOU'VE GONE FROM STRONG MAYOR YESTERDAY MANAGER AND THAT IS A WHOLE LEARNING THAT THEIR TO ALL THE DEPARTMENTS IN EVERY 7 POUNDS AND A BUT LOW EVERYTHING I. >> WHO WHO IS IN CHARGE OF WHOM AND EVERYTHING ELSE SO IT WAS IT WAS A LEARNING CURVE AND AND WE'RE AT THIS POINT NOW WHERE IT'S GOOD BECAUSE WE ARE. WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE AND AND I WAS JUST OVER SOMEBODY BEFORE THEY SAW THE SAME POST CAME AND THROUGH. >> ONLINE ABOUT. >> THE PORT IS NUMBER BUDDY PUT IT OUT THERE. NUMBER ONE GROWTH ENTIRE COUNTRY AGAIN YOU NEED TO HAVE ALL EVERYTHING IN PLACE AND WE DID IT WE HAVE EVERYTHING IN PLACE TO DEAL WITH AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF GOVERNMENT WE HAVE HERE. ALL RIGHT SO. THAT WAS THAT YOU WANT ANY TO SAY ANYTHING FURTHER ABOUT THAT. >> COREY >> IT IS THERE INTEREST IN POSSIBLY CHANGING FROM MAYOR TO CHAIR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO EXPLORE AND WHAT THAT IS. TURNER JUST ANOTHER NAMED ROW WILL BE AT THE NEXT MEETING. >> IS THERE ANY BENEFIT. THE BOTH THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF MAYORS ARE. >> WHATEVER IT WAS THEY YEAH. >> WOULD SAY NO I'M DUKE HAS HAVING BEEN MAYORS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CURRICULUM AND THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES THAT REALLY GEARED TOWARD THE KINDS OF WORK AND DECISIONS THAT THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY STAFF MICK. NOW WAS CEREMONIAL MAYOR. >> I WAS IN FACT THAT WAS ONLY BENEFIT IS RIGHT GETTING SOME ADDED THINGS FOR THE CITY WE'VE GOT A STORY WE HAVE THAT END UP WHEN I WAS MAYOR I DIDN'T GO THAT WAS INAPPROPRIATE CON 10 FOR THAT THIS MAYOR IF I MAY. >> WE HAD IT IN THE BUDGET TO REPLACE DID IN THE BUDGET TO BE MEMBERS OF THE FLORIDA LEAGUE, A MAYORS. I WENT TO ONE OF THE MEETINGS AND I'M SITTING THERE GOING ON. WHAT WHAT THE THAT'S NOT HOW GOVERNMENT WORKS THAT'S NOT HOW OUR SYSTEM WORKS AND WAS NOT APPLICABLE. >> BECAUSE IT WAS FIRST WRONG MAYORS, NOT CEREMONIAL MAYORS. AND WHEN I TALKED TO THE PEOPLE AFTERWARDS, I SAID I HAVE A CEREMONIAL MAYOR PROP. FORM OF GOVERNMENT FOR CITY MANAGER COMMISSION AND THEY SAID WHY ARE YOU HERE. >> SO WE REMOVED IT FROM THE BUDGET. >> AND AND NOTHING MORE WAS DONE. >> THAT'S SAVED KNOWING, BUT THAT THEN WOULD BE REMOVING YOURSELF YOU DON'T HAVE TO INCLUDE IN THE BUDGET EVERY YEAR AND SAVE THE CITY MONEY. I HAVE ONE COMMENT >> BUT THERE JEN THIS IS WE HAVE FOR PEOPLE UP HERE SAY THEY WANT TO CHANGE IT I KNOW >> AND THEN EVERYTHING AND SO HAS MY NAME SOMETHING FOR THEM TO WEIGH TONIGHT FOR US AND IF I MAY BE IN ANYBODY WANT TO COMMENT. BUT YOU KNOW. >> I THINK THERE IS VALUE EVEN IF IT'S CEREMONIAL I'M NOT REALLY CONCERNED THAT THE AVERAGE PERSON THAT SAYS WELL I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE MAYOR DOES OR DOESN'T DO THAT KIND OF IRRELEVANT. IN MY OPINION AS FAR AS VALLEY OF BEING. >> THE ROTATED MAYOR SO TO SPEAK BECAUSE IT IS CEREMONIAL AND THE SENSE OF WHAT WE DO WE ALL HAVE ONE VOTE AND AND THAT'S IT IF ANYTHING WAS JUST ADDITIONAL AMOUNT OF WORK THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT BUT I SEE ITS VALUE IN THAT. THE MAYOR DOES AT TIMES REPRESENT THE AND AND IN THAT CAPACITY. THAT TITLE. >> HOLES. >> IT HOLDS A PERSPECTIVE THAT PEOPLE HAVE ABOUT MAYOR. IT LIKE I YOU KNOW TO STAND UP AT A A COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS. >> WHERE THERE IS A GATHERING CITY LEADERS FROM ALL OVER AN AREA WHETHER IT'S THE COUNTY OR THE STATE AND THIS IS THE CHAIR OF SUPPOSED TO SEE THE MAYOR OF NORTH PORT KNOW IT SOUNDS WEIRD. BUT IT ACTUALLY MATTERS TO THEM. THERE'S A STANDING THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT TITLE. >> AND IN. >> IN WHATEVER YOU KNOW, WHENEVER SOMEONE IS THE MAYOR. THEY DO OPERATE. TIMES IN THAT CAPACITY REPRESENTING OUR CITY. >> AND AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT I FRANKLY. >> YOU KNOW SOMEWHAT US LIKE I'VE HAD MILLION PEOPLE LAST MAY MILLION BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE ASK ME LIKE WILL. >> LIKE WHAT'S THE MAYOR WHO GO MAYOR OF ICE NOW WHAT DO YOU YOU KNOW WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WHEN YOU'RE HOUSE THAT DIFFERENT IT'S NO DIFFERENT WILL HAVE ONE VOTE IT'S REALLY EASY TO EXPLAIN. ABOUT 10 SECONDS TO EXPLAIN NO DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER ON COMMISSION. WE ALL WANT FO THE MAYOR GETS A LITTLE MORE EXTRA WORK TO DO AND THEY DO REPRESENT THE CITY AT MANY THINGS AND THAT'S IT PEOPLE OK COOL THAT'S IT SO I NOT SUGGEST WE CHANGE BECAUSE I THINK IT DOES MATTER WHEN YOU'RE OUT THERE INTERFACING WITH WITH ENTITIES WITH BUSINESS COMMUNITY PEOPLE WITH ORGANIZATIONS PROF I THINK THAT MAYOR TITLE HARRY SOME. >> SHOULD THE CITY. >> IN TERMS SO THAT INDIVIDUALS RAPTORS SO I'D DEAD SET AGAINST RANGE I THINK WE DID THE RIGHT AND WE WERE THE WAY IT IS. >> WANT THINK THAT. VICE MAYOR SO WHEN I GO TO IT PLACES AND. >> YOU'RE THE MAYOR IT JUST I'M REPRESENTING THE CITY OF NORTH PORT AND THEY ARE REALLY HAPPY. >> THAT THE CITY IS IS THERE SHAPE OR FORM THAT I WAS IMPORTANT ENOUGH FOR ME TO GO THERE AND I JUST FIND I'M NOT THE SAME AS SUPPOSE THE CHAIR. YOU KNOW ALICE WHITE BUT WHEN THEY MAYOR THANK YOU FOR COMING TO ME I SEE THAT WHAT'S THE WORD, I'M LOOKING GOODWILL. THAT'S I THAT'S YOU THAT'S WHAT I SEE IT AS I WAS JUST AT THE HABITAT FOR HUMANITY HAD THEIR THEIR SOCK HOP AND AND THAT AGAIN PEOPLE YOU KNOW THEY LIKE TO KNOW THAT. SOMEBODY FROM THE CITY IS THERE THAT KNOWS THAT THEY EXIST. THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT MAN AND HAD A GALA AND OTHER PLACES I'VE GONE TO OUTSIDE COURT IT JUST FEEL. LIKE AND MORE IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE THERE AND I JUST ENJOY REPRESENTING THE CITY EVEN THOUGH IT IS JUST NAME ONLY BUT AT THAT POINT. VICE MAYOR SAID A CAROUSEL A LITTLE WEIGHT AS FAR AS THE PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED WE WERE IMPORTANT ENOUGH THAT YOU KNOW WE HAVE AN AMBASSADOR PORT HERE AND THAT'S GREAT WHY NOT AND IT'S IT'S A WAY TO THE SHOWCASE THE GREAT THINGS ABOUT OUR CITY AND AND THAT WE'RE GETTING OUT NOT WE DON'T EXIST LITTLE BUBBLE. GREAT CONVERSATION ENSURING THE APP. >> AND IT MAKES THE CONVERSATION I WOULD EXPECT IT WOULD PUT THIS ON OUR HIS THAT YOU'RE OUT BECAUSE LIKE I SAID I'VE ONLY 5 YEARS SO I DON'T HAVE THAT IS TRUE. THIS GROUP AT SO. THIS OPEN MY EYES A LITTLE BIT WHAT THAT LOOKED REAL QUICK, MY FORMER PLAYERS. THEY'RE STRONG THEY'RE AND THEY HAD TRUSTEES. AND SO THOSE ARE ALL ELECTED POSITIONS THEY ALL VOTED EVERYTHING. THERE IS SOME SENSE THAT I'M NOT SURE I'M WILLING YOU GIVE UP A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS EVENING. SOME OPPOSITION. COULD MEAN US WHICH RIGHT FOR TODAY. >> ALL RIGHT THAT'S THE LAST THING ON YOUR ON YOUR GOALS WORKING ALL GUYS. >> JOHN >> SHOULD WE THEY HAVE TO ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT TO HIM. LET'S GO AHEAD. >> I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK I GET A LOT A LOT JOINT MEETINGS WITH OUR ADVISORY BOARDS. BECAUSE YOU ARE ADVISORY BOARD. YES, YOU KNEW ARE APPOINTED BY US REPORT BACK TO US YOU ARE OUR EYES AND EARS OUT THERE WITH THE CITIZEN AND I'M JUST GRATEFUL GUYS TOOK THE TIME OF YOUR DAY TO COME AND MEET WITH US EXPLAIN SOME OF THE GOALS THAT YOU GUYS WANTED TO ACCOMPLISH. BUT I HOPE THAT THESE CONVERSATIONS WERE HELPFUL TO YOU TO AS MUCH AS THEY WERE HELPFUL TO ME. AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FORWARD TO SEEING YOU AGAIN. >> AGREE WITH THAT AND I WOULD ALSO OR ASK. YOU KNOW WE COME UP WITH A LOT OF IDEAS BUT EVERYTHING WE COME UP WITH ASKED APPROVED BY YOU THEREFORE WE'RE OPEN TO ANY OF YOUR IDEA IS SO THAT THE OTHER CHEEK AND FORWARDED US AND WE'LL LOOK AT YOUR RIGHT IS ALSO MAY NOT THINK A VERY TO WORK ON I WOULD REALLY A REGULAR MEETING IN ANNUAL MEETING IN. >> I THINK AT THE POINT WHERE YOU'RE KIND OF TAKING A LOOK AT YOUR PRIORITIES AND WHAT YOU WANT TO BE TALKING ABOUT MOVING FORWARD IT'S A GREAT TIME FOR US TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS I THINK YOU HAD SO MENTIONED MORE MEETINGS WOULD BE GOOD I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL I FIND A LOT OF VALUE AND I DO LISTEN CLOSELY TO WHAT OUR ADVISORY GROUPS HAVE TO SAY SO I WOULD I THINK WE SHOULD SAY ALL OF OUR ADVISORY GROUP THAT FUNDS ONCE A YEAR. 2 SOUTHERN CALIBRATING. >> YEAH, REALLY THEY'RE VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE LUNCH ONCE YOU FOLKS AT YOUR MEETING REGARDING THE REFERENDUM ISSUE AND PERMISSIVE REFERENDUMS VERY MUCH LOOK FORWARD TO REACHES INNING AND SITTING DOWN AND GETTING YOUR THOUGHTS AND INPUT AND IDEAS >> THAT IS AN ISSUE WE PROBABLY THE BIGGEST SINGLE ISSUE CITY FACES IN TERMS OF CHARTER AND AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE GOING TO HAVE TO RECKON WITH SOONER OR LATER AS WE CONTINUE TO PRODUCE IT SO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU GUYS GREATEST. >> OKAY ALL RIGHT DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY. >> IT IS 7.23 AND I ADJOURN THIS THANK YOU ALL. AS THE CITY O --------- EVERY YOU SEE A LOT OF RECYCLING INSIDE THE CONTAINERS I COME ACROSS A LOT WANT TO DO THAT SO. >> OKAY, SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS YOU CAN ALWAYS LOOK AT OUR WEBSITE WW DOT NORTH PORT FLORIDA DOT GOV SLASH SOLID WASTE. ♪ >> I'M STACEY LA SALLE I'M THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY OF NORTH PORT AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE A GO KIT AND WHAT SHOULD GO INSIDE OF IT, IT'S IMPORTANT HAVE A GO BAG BECAUSE IF YOU WAIT LAST MINUTE TO PACK THEY'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO BE ITEMS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO FORGET AND THE SCRAMBLE TO GET EVERYTHING TOGETHER SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO YOUR DOCUMENTS SUCH AS ID'S INSURANCE PAPERWORK TITLES FOR YOUR HOME AND YOUR VEHICLES AND YOUR BOATS JUST SO THAT IF YOUR HOME DOES FLOOD OR ALL THOSE DOCUMENTS ARE WITH YOU AND THEY'RE SAFE BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO END UP LOSING THOSE AND HAVING TO TRY TO REPLACE THOSE LATER ON ALSO IN YOUR GO BAG THAT YOU SHOULD THINK ABOUT WHAT MEDICATIONS YOU MIGHT NEED TO HAVE AHEAD OF TIME FOR UNDER A STATE OF EMERGENCY YOU ARE ABLE TO REFILL PRESCRIPTIONS AHEAD OF TIME EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT DO YET SO ITS IMPORTANT TO DO THAT ALSO IN YOUR GO BAGS YOU SHOULD HAVE NON-PERISHABLE FOOD FLASHLIGHT BATTERIES, A RADIO THAT IS BATTERY POWERED AND EXTRA BATTERIES SHOULD ALL POWER GO OUT WE WILL BE ABLE TO BROADCAST ON 97.5 FM ANY EMERGENCY INFORMATION SO BE SURE TO HAVE ♪ BATTERY POWERED RADIO READY AND TUNED IN TO 97 POINT. >> I'M STACEY SALLE AND THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY OF NORTH PORT AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FLOOD ZONES AND EVACUATION ZONES ARE IN SARASOTA COUNTY. WE CALL THEM EVACUATION LEVELS. >> SO FLOOD ZONES ARE GENERATED BY FEMA AND THEY'RE USED TO DETERMINE THE LIKELIHOOD THAT YOU'LL FLOOD AND THEY'RE USED TO DETERMINE IF YOU NEED FLOOD INSURANCE IF YOU HAVE A MORTGAGE ON YOUR HOME. NOW THE EVACUATION ZONES ARE BASED ON STORM SURGE DATA THAT COMES FROM THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER. AND THEY USE TOPOGRAPHY AS WELL AS HURRICANE VULNERABILITY FOR STORM SURGE FOR THE AREA AND WE USE THOSE TO DETERMINE WHO NEEDS TO EVACUATE DURING A STORM SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT WHAT EVACUATION ZONE YOU ARE AND WHICH WE HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU DO. YOU CAN USE YOUR SEARCH ENGINE OF CHOICE. AND TYPE SARASOTA COUNTY KNOW YOUR LEVEL AND THAT WILL TAKE YOU TO THE SARASOTA COUNTY GOVERNMENT WEBSITE. >> WATER IN US WELL THAT'S KIND OF THE DITCH. MY YOUR HOUSE IS NOT FLOODING. WITHIN US AFTER STORM EVENT. >> WATER SHOULD BE IN THAT SWELL UP TO 72 HOURS AFTER THE STORM. THAT ALLOWS THE FILTER TO GET THE STUFF THAT CAME FOR ROOM AND THE ROAD OUT OF THE WATER SO THAT WHEN REACHES THE ♪ HABITAT IT NO LONGER HAS THOSE CONTAMINANTS IT ALSO PROVIDES OPPORTUNITY TO SLOW DOWN WATERS SO THAT THE WATER DOESN'T GO SO FAST THAT THEIR ROADS. >> ROADWAYS ANY OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE, SO WHEN YOU SEE WATER IN ONLY YOU KNOW UP TO ♪ >> 72 HOURS SINCE THE LAST RAIN THAT IS NOT LETTING THAT IS DOING ITS JOB. >> HELLO MY NAME'S A VAN FULL PRODUCTS FACILITY MANAGER WITH THE CITY OF NORTH PORT AND TODAY WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING WITH YOU GUYS ABOUT OUR FREE SWIM EVALUATION. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DO NEED EVALUATIONS SO KIDS REGISTERING ONE PROGRAM. >> ALL RIGHT GOOD MORNING. IT IS TUESDAY MARCH 19TH 2020 BORE IT IS 09:00AM WE ARE IN THE CITY CHAMBERS AND I CALL THE CITY COMMISSION WORKSHOP MEETING TO ORDER. COMMISSIONERS PRESENT OUR COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL COMMISSIONER LANGDON MYSELF MAYOR WHITE VICE MAYOR STOKES COMMISSIONER AND RICH IS ABSENT TODAY. WE WISH HIM. SPEEDY RECOVERY. BUT WE DO HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT FOR THIS MEETING ALSO PRESENT WE HAVE CITY MANAGER FLETCHER CITY ATTORNEYS SLAYTON CITY CLERK FAUST SYSTEM CITY CLERK, HOWELL. I KNOW POLICE CHIEF HARRISON IS BACK THERE ALONG WITH DEPUTY POLICE CHIEF I THINK AND FIRE CHIEF TITUS THANK YOU. FOR THE MISS LISA HERMAN CAN I CALL ON YOU TO US. WE HAVE THE PLEDGE. >> LAUGH OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA JUST ONE NATION. I GOT THIS IS A STOP. >> ALL RIGHT WELL MOVING ON TO PUBLIC. COMMENT CITY CLERK ANY ONLINE PUBLIC COMMENT OR OTHERWISE. OKAY. SO THAT MOVING ON TO ITEM TO A 24 DASH 0, 3, 4, 5, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE DIRECTION REGARDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2020 FOR 2025 BUDGET ASSUMPTIONS PROJECTIONS AND PRIORITIES. CITY MANAGER THIS IS WAR. YOU KNOW. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. YOU ALL VOTE. >> COMMISSIONERS WE'RE. >> THIS IS THE FIRST CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE HAVING ABOUT THE UPCOMING BUDGET COMPOSITE FOR FISCAL YEAR 25. I THINK WE'VE TALKED A LOT FISCAL YEAR, 24 OF THE NEEDS AND THE PROCESS GOT TO WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW IN THE PROCESS KNOWING THAT EVERYONE IS HURTING SO FROM SOMETHING SOMEWHERE POINTS ARE TREMENDOUS FOR OUR RESIDENTS FOR EMPLOYEES OR IT FILLING THE PITCH LOOK SOMETHING SOMEWHERE OF A LOT OF OUR CONVERSATION RIGHT NOW GENERATING AROUND OUR NEW P HEADQUARTERS WE FIGURE OUT THAT PATHWAY IT AS ASIAN OR MAY HAVE IMPLICATIONS ON RATE OF OUR RESIDENTS. SO IN THIS CONVERSATION WE WILL DISCUSS WHAT THAT MEANS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN SPEAK. SO THAT WE CAN KNOW AND UNDERSTAND HOW THEY AFFECT EACH OTHER. AS WE BEGIN THE PROCESS WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT. BUT RESULTS WHICH IS WHAT WE TALK TO YOU ALL ABOUT LAST YEAR YOU MIGHT REMEMBER DURING THE PROCESS OF A FEW TO PLAYING WITH AS YOU ALL RIGHT THE YOU EAT THEM WITHIN EACH PILLAR WHERE WE ENDED UP AT AND THOSE RANKINGS ALL SHARE WITH ALL REMIND WE'LL SHARE WITH WHAT THEY WERE AS WE TALK ABOUT HOW IN THE PATHWAY WE DECIDE TO MAKE CUTS IN CORRECTIONS IN THE BUDGET. BUT THAT PROCESS WE WERE ABLE TO SAVE ABOUT 4 MILLION DOLLARS. BEFORE YOU SAW IT. THIS YEAR WE'RE GOING TO SHOW IT TO YOU WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO CUT IT OUT OF BECAUSE IT WILL BE NECESSARY FOR YOU TO SORT OF TIE THAT BACK TO THE RANKINGS YOUR PRIORITIES IN THE OUTCOME THAT YOU WANT TO ACHIEVE. LOOK AT IT MORE A SHOW YOU WERE KIND OF EXERCISE THIS YEAR. AND JUST FOR THE RECORD THAT 4 MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE GOT OUR BUDGET FROM THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, WE ASKED THEM TO. LET US KNOW WHAT THEY WERE LATER IN THE YEAR AND THAT TIME IS NOW SEE HOW AND IF WE CAN MAKE UP SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE CUT. THE ALWAYS TOO DO YOUR BUDGET IT CONTROL YOUR SPENDING AS MUCH AS YOU CAN. BEFORE YOU COME BACK AND ASK FOR OTHER THINGS THAT YOU MIGHT NEED AND IT A REALLY GOOD JOB OF BEING ABLE TO FIND OTHER SOURCES OF. OPPORTUNITIES BEFORE COMING BACK TO YOU FOR BUDGET AMENDMENT OUR CELLS PROVIDED THE MINUTES AS WELL. THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, BUT AS WE GET CLOSE TO THE END OF THE YEAR THINGS WILL JUST GET A LITTLE BIT TIGHTER THEY BECAUSE I THINK WILL DECIDE WHAT IS NEEDED AND NECESSARY. IS WHAT CAN BE. HOTEL FOR A LITTLE BIT LONGER. SO WE ARE GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS RIGHT NOW FOR THIS GREAT. IT'S CLEAR. OK, HIS FIRST LIVE HERE IN BALLOT FOR THE LAST 3 YEARS FOR REVIEW, YOU WILL NOTICE THAT THE ENDING FUND BALANCE AND 23 TYPICALLY GOING UP IN THE RIGHT THAT MEANS THAT THE REVENUE COMING TOWARD THE YEAR YEARS FOR THE LAST 3 YEARS HAVE SUSTAINED EXPENSES THIS IS A TREND. BUT YOU WANT IS SHOW THAT WE ARE WITH THINGS IN A POSITIVE MANNER. SOME OF THESE. SOME OF THESE NUMBERS WILL BE AFFECTED BY VARIOUS. VARIOUS FACTORS. SUCH AS YOU MIGHT REMEMBER THAT WE ARE DOING THE CITY THE STRUCTURE STUDY THAT WILL I SOME OF WHAT WE CHART FOR USER RATES. WE DO KNOW THAT JUST OUT OF THE SOME WILL GO UP SO WHAT WE RECOMMEND IT TO GO UP SO WILL BE RECOMMENDED TO GO DOWN TO THOSE ARE THE CHOICES THAT WILL PUT IN FRONT OF YOU DURING THIS BUDGET PROCESS SO THAT YOU CAN ENSURE THAT WE MAKING LOGICAL DATA DRIVEN DECISIONS AS IT RELATES TO OUR CITY, STRUCTURE. THE FUND BALANCE ANALYSIS FOR FISCAL YEAR. 24. WHAT THIS SHOWS IS WHAT YOU ACTUALLY ARE PROJECTED TO HAVE AVAILABLE PROTECTED FOR AND OF THE FISCAL YEAR OF SEPTEMBER. YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY'RE OFTEN A 7.7 THAT IS THE AMOUNT AFTER THE 20% OR RESERVES ARE A LOT OF 4. SO IF YOU THINK OF IT IN A WAY THAT YOU KNOW I THINK OF IT IS YOU KNOW WE'RE LOOKING TALKING ABOUT THE POLICE STATION IF YOU NEEDED 2 OR 3 MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE COULD NOT FIND IN OUR BUDGET THIS IS WHERE YOU WOULD LOOK KNOWING THAT YOU HAVE MONEY SET ASIDE FOR A DISASTER RECOVERY. IT WE TO THE WHEN NEEDING IT AND THEY ARE CALLING FOR YEAR THAN USUAL HURRICANE THIS YEAR. SO WE ALL NEED TO BE PREPARED AND KNOW THAT THAT IS REALISTIC POSSIBILITY THAT WE COULD GO THROUGH THAT AGAIN KNOWING WHAT WE WENT THROUGH INCLUDING WHAT YOU SEE FROM VOTING PHRASE WHEN YOU SEE THERE NEGATIVE ELLIS NEGATIVE 15 MILLION. AND DIRECTLY ATTRIBUTED TO THE MONEY THAT WE'RE STILL LOOKING TO RECOVER FROM THE GOAL OF THE CITY IS ALWAYS TO BE PREPARED. IN CASE ANOTHER NATURAL DISASTER STRIKES RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN THE BEST POSITION WE CAN AS POSSIBLE BUT. I WILL TELL EXACTLY THE IMPACT OF HAPPENED. A THAT A LOT ASSUMPTIONS ARE THAT THE TAXABLE VALUE WHEN INCREASE OF 7 APP OR SIT. THIS IS MORE IN ALIGNMENT WITH A NORMAL PERCENTAGE RATE OVER THE YEARS. YOU MIGHT REMEMBER THAT OVER THE LAST 2 YEARS THE NUMBER 2 YEARS AGO THE NUMBER WAS I WANT TO SAY 21% BUT IT WAS IT WAS REALLY HIGH AND THEN THE MARKET IS SORT OF WHO LAST YEAR THIS SORT NORMALIZING CLOSER US BY THE NUMBER THIS YEAR OVER NUMBER WILL BE HIGHER WE CAN USE IT TO OFFSET SOME OF THE EXPENSES THAT WE HAVE IT. WE WILL HAVE TO WORKAROUND WHATEVER THE TRUE NUMBER BELIEVED GET THAT NUMBER AND TO ME. >> MAY JULY. >> FIRST NUMBER WILL COME IN TAKE YOU FOR WILL COME IN END OF MAY THE REAL DOUBLE COME IN JULY 1ST. SO WE HAVE A WHILE BEFORE WE GET SOME NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD BY MAKING SOME ASSUMPTIONS. COLLECTION RATE OF 96.5% FOR THE BUDGET REVENUE IS IS PRETTY TYPICAL THE MIDDLE OF THEM OUT THAT WE HAVE A 3.7 6, 6, 7, IT STAYS THAT WAY WILL BRING IN ADDITIONAL 2 POINT 3 MILLION DOLLARS TO OFFSET SOME OF IT'S BEEN SINCE WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS AS WELL. NEXT SLIDE HERE WE TALK ABOUT THE LOCAL MUNICIPALITY, THE COUNTY AND THE EFFECT OF MILLAGE RATE PER 1000. THIS SORT OF SHOWS OUR COMPARISON ALL ABOUT IT COMMITS AND SHOWS HOW WE COMPARE. BUT IT LOOKS THAT 6.1 1 PLOT THAT WE ARE WE ARE ABOUT 3RD IN LINE HERE AS WE RELATE TO OUR PEERS. TAXABLE IN DOLLAR AMOUNTS YOU SEE THAT WE'RE AT A 0.5 MILLION DOLLARS. KIND OF ON THE LOW SIDE FOR OUR SIZE. YOU THINK ABOUT THE SIZE THAT WE HAVE AS A CITY COMPARED TO BUT GIVEN THAT LONGBOAT KEY BECAUSE THEY ARE. IT WILL IN MY OPINION MY WORDS. BUT THEN YOU HAVE WE HAVE MORE POPULATION THEN THE CITY OF SARASOTA AND THEY ARE TWICE AS MUCH AS WE ARE TAXABLE SO WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO PROVE THAT TAXABLE VALUE SO THAT WE CAN GO HIGHER BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD THE AT CITY OF OUR SIZE DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU SEE IN THE GROWTH THAT WE TALK ABOUT THAT'S DIRECT THE TRIBUTE TO CONVERSATION ARE TAXABLE VALUE INCREASES. WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS BATTLE GOING IN 2023 TAXABLE VALUE SEE THERE ARE 8.5 MILLION. HOW IT COMPARES TO ONLY THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND WE ARE. SECOND IN LINE BEHIND FROM THE CITY OF SARASOTA. CHART SO THEY PER CAPITA REVENUE AS BASED ON THE FACT OF YOU WOULD SEE THAT WE ARE AT $601. WELL THOSE 3.33 WE'VE MENTIONED THIS SITUATION EARLIER YOU MENTIONED TO SARASOTA WHICH IS WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO CLIMB TO BE 1464, BUT YOU'LL NOTICE THAT WE ARE AT THE LOWEST ON THIS AS IT RELATES TO OUR PER CAPITA REVENUE THIS THAT'S BASED ON OUR SIZE NOT SORT OF KEEPING UP WITH THE REVENUES THAT WE NEED TO ANYTHING ABOUT THE CONVERSATION THAT WE FROM THE 8% OF A CRUCIAL THEY WERE AT TO THE 20 TO 25% THAT WE NEED THIS SHOW YOU THE STARK CONTRAST OF WHERE WE ARE IS WHERE WE FIND GO. SO ALL FUNDS OF WHAT WE'VE INCLUDED IN OUR BUDGET BEGINNING CONVERSATION YOU LOVE THE FACTOR OF 3 AND A HALF PERCENT SALARY. BOTH OF PERSONNEL. WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE LOW PERSONNEL REQUESTING IT. IT COMES YOUR WAY YOU KNOW A LITTLE BIT BUT THAT IS DIRECTLY TIED BECAUSE A PERSONAL COST A LOT OF PLACES ARE OUR MOST EXPENSIVE COST. THROUGHOUT THE CITY. KNOWING THAT THIS COMMISSION HAS GRAY GRANTED THE POSITION THAT WE'VE ASKED FOR THE LAST 2 YEARS. AND I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT, YOU KNOW ONE OF THOSE WITH PUBLIC SAFETY AND POLICE BASED ON THE CONSULTANT'S STUDY THEY GAVE US. THE NUMBER THEY NEED TO GET TO OVER THE COURSE OF TIME THEY DID RECEIVE A GRANT THIS YEAR THAT KATE FUNDING FOR 10 OFFICERS WHICH THAT WILL NOT BE IN YOUR BUDGET REQUEST SO WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THAT GREAT SCENE OF THE PDT FOR AGAIN ALWAYS TRY AND FIGURE OUT WAYS SAVE THE CITY MONEY. THE CONTRACT FOR THE PDA AND ARE BEING NEGOTIATED RIGHT NOW IS BY ALL ACCOUNTS, EVERYTHING IS GOING WELL, ESPECIALLY WITH A POLICE TO ITS OWN. ON FIRST BASE AND THAT IS GOING WELL BASED ON YOUR ACTIONS THAT YOU BEFORE LAST YEAR IN ORDER TO RIGHT-SIZE THEIR SALARIES TO KEEP THOUGH COMPETITIVE MARKET TO MAKE SURE THAT TRAIN PEOPLE FOR THEM TO LEAVE. SO WE BELIEVE THAT THAT CONTRIBUTES NOT ONLY IN 2 THE BUT IT'S A LITTLE WELL-BEING OF OUR OFFICERS BUT ALSO THEIR MENTAL STATE AS WELL KNOWING THAT THE CITY CARES ABOUT THEM IN WAYS THAT IS MORE LONG TERM THE SHORT TERM. BUT THE SAME IS NON EU EMPLOYEES. THEY ARE STILL WORKING THROUGH THAT PROCESS THERE'S BILL DECISIONS TO BE MADE ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THAT PROCESS BASED ON THE INCLUSION OF EMPLOYEES. WE HAVE SAID OR NOT SAID THEY WOULD BE A PART OF THAT. THE SALARY GROWTH OF 2 AND A HALF PERCENT FOR COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT 44 LEVEL OF FEDERAL EMPLOYEES. IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS VERY CONSISTENT WHAT WE'VE OVER THE PAST WE ALL BLEED UNDERSTAND THAT THE ECONOMY WHILE IT IS IMPROVING. IF YOU REMEMBER LAST YEAR TO A SIMILAR CONVERSATION LIKE THIS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT A FEW OF THE RECESSION. IT GLAD THAT DIDN'T COME TO TAKE PLACE BUT KNOWING THAT IT DIDN'T TAKE PLACE. WE WERE QUARTERLY AND THIS YEAR. WE WILL HAVE TO PLAN AND BUDGET ACCORDINGLY FOR THE FACTORS OF WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH A NATIONWIDE AS WELL. A COFFEE BACK SHE WOULD CAP A PROJECT'S ONGOING STAFFING OPERATING COST WAS MAKING CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE ON OUR LIST BELIEVE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A IT'S CHALLENGING TIME LOOKING AT SOME OF THOSE FIGURING OUT HOW DO WE. ORGANIZING A WAY THAT'S AN ALIGNMENT WITH YOUR PRIORITIES AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT YOU WANT TO ACCOMPLISH. THE POLICE STATION IN TOP OF MIND KNOWING THAT IT WAS IN THERE IN OUR CIP BUT AS FUNDED PROJECT KNOWING WHAT GOING THROUGH NOW WE THAT WOULD HAVE TO FUND IT AT CERTAIN A CERTAIN TIME THAT GOES BACK TO THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'RE HAPPY WITH THE PUBLIC NOW IS YOU AS A BOARD NOW IN ORDER TO FIGURE OUT WHERE CAN THE DIFFERENT FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES, LOT WORK. SOME OF THE MORE IMPORTANT PROJECTS THAT ARE. THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DEW POINT CHANGE BETWEEN 45 OF THE MERIT INCREASES ARE ESTIMATED TO BE ONE POINT 8 MILLION DOLLARS THIS THE TO BE ON ADJUSTMENT IS WHAT ABOUT REASON HEALTH INSURANCE. I'VE THAN $80,000 OPERATING COUGH. INCREASE NEARLY 2 MILLION DOLLARS WHICH. THE 0.4 MILLION DOLLARS WHICH 3 MILLION DOLLARS SHORTER THE ESTIMATED INCREASE SO DO THAT SO WILL YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE A PROBLEM SOLVED FOR. I BELIEVE THAT WE'RE GOING TO THAT PROBLEM WE HAVE OFFICE IT PROBABLY A COUPLE OF WAYS. A WAY IF WE'RE GOING LOOK AT THE EYE ORTIZ AND HOW YOU WAIT BUT THEN THEMSELVES OUR PLAYER WITH THE THOMAS OUT TO PLANNER. WE'RE GOING TO PUT UP AT THE END OF THE SLY WE'RE GOING TO PUT THOSE RANKINGS UP JUST TO REMIND YOU HOW YOU RANK BUILDING WHERE THEY WERE AND WHAT WOULD BE OUR STRATEGY FOR LOOKING AT THE FROM THE BOTTOM UP IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE REMAIN INTACT. THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS YOU OF THE BOARD SAID DURING THAT PROCESS. WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR DOT BUDGET OF THIS YEAR ABOUT COLORS. NO NO SURPRISE THAT HOUR INFRASTRUCTURE. FACILITIES IS 40% OF THAT BUDGET BECAUSE WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN OUR ASSETS AS WE GO FORWARD IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO BECAUSE OF THE ONLY THE PERSONNEL BUT THE PROCESS IS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE REMAIN A COMMUNITY FOR PEOPLE. YOU WANT TO RESIDE IF WE IF WE LOSE THAT I THINK A LOT OF DIFFERENT COME INTO CONSEQUENCES ARE. YOU PUT ON THE SHOULDERS OF THE CITY OF NEWPORT NONE OF WHICH ARE. FAVORABLE I'M A GOOD GOVERNMENT. AS WE TALK ABOUT ENSURING THAT YOU I DO THE RIGHT PEOPLE THE RIGHT PLACES BUT RIGHT INTO HER BEFORE OR PROCESSES TO SURE THAT WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE O'CONNELL FOR BUT INTO THE CITY OF WORK. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE THAT BUDGET BIPOLAR FOR THE DUAL WHICH IS THE MAIN FUND THAT WOULD LOOK AT AS A CITY OR THE MAJORITY OF OUR SPIT EXPENSES THAT WE CONTROL THE WHICH IS SUPPORTED BY PROPERTY TAXES WILL CEASE A COMMUNITY, A 61% OF THAT. THAT IS A DIRECT EXAMPLE OF MONEY WE'RE ABOUT TALK ABOUT KEEPING OUR COMMUNITIES SAFE. ALSO SEE I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT HERE SOME OF THESE THE QUALITY OF LIFE IS 11%. THE GOVERNOR 21%. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH MANAGE THAT WHICH IS 4% SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE ME A RECENT PRIORITY RECENT BUDGETS. WE'RE SURE THAT THAT STAFFING IS. QUALITY TO HELP THE GROWTH CONTINUE THE GROWTH THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING AS WELL AS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TALK ABOUT. 15 SOME OF THE BURDEN OFF OF OUR RESIDENTS IN 2. THE BUSINESS. THIS IS WE APPROACH IT BY MAKING SURE THAT THAT'S A HIGHER PRIORITY. IT HAS BEEN IN THE PAST. SO SOME OF THE CONSIDERATIONS THAT I TALKED ABOUT EITHER PUBLICLY OR PRIVATELY ARE ON THIS SLIDE. NEW EMPLOYEE YOU PLAY BECAUSE WE HAD LAST YEAR INCLUDED PUBLIC SAFETY AS WELL OR LITTLE SPRINGS AND WANTS THOSE WERE REMOVED BOARD DOWN TO 7 POSITIONS OR WOULD FOR HR THAT WERE DESPERATELY NEEDED. WE BELIEVE THAT WE WILL NEED TO GO EVEN LOWER THIS JUST BASED EVERYTHING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT POLICE FLORIDA BE LOWER. WHAT WE DO OR LITTLE SPRINGS, BUT AS IT TURNED OUT BASED ON WHAT HAPPENED OR SPRINGS. WE ALREADY HAVE THOSE PEOPLE POSITIONS IN PLACE AND NOW WE'RE PUTTING THOSE PEOPLE ARE IN PLACE AS WE CONTINUE TO OPERATE THE 18 TO 20 ACRES WHERE THE LAKERS SO WE'RE GLAD THAT WE HAVE WE'RE GLAD THAT THE PARTS OF LAX THEY DO A GREAT JOB OF MANAGING THE SITUATION IS NOT TYPICALLY MANAGED BY LOCAL SO APPLAUD THEM FOR THEIR EFFORTS. IF WE MOVE FORWARD IN THAT PROCESS WHICH AS YOU KNOW YOU'RE IN TO TAKE DIFFERENT IDEAS IN THE DOOR IS WIDE OPEN FOR PEOPLE TO COME AND SAY THEY HAVE A PLAN FOR RAINS. WE ARE MEETING WITH SOME STATE REPRESENTATIVES IN THE UPCOMING WEEKS A MEETING WITH A COUPLE OF LOCAL PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE FUNDING FINANCIAL BACKGROUND TOO. WHAT THEY BELIEVE PLAYED AN IMPACT IN THE FUTURE OR LITTLE SPRINKLES. THAT'S EXCITING WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR EVERYONE WHO IS WE SO WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT WE HELP EITHER IT'S FOR. OR EXPLORE WITH THEM. WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING TO PUT IN FRONT OF YOU AS A VIABLE OPTION FUTURE. IT REALLY GREAT ISRAELIS I'VE BEEN SAYING THAT THIS IS BEEN NEEDED FOR YEARS NOW WE'VE KEPT MISREAD THE SAME FOR 4 YEARS NOW. >> I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS GOING TO BE THE RAINS THIS INCREASE BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW FROM OUR POLICE CONVERSATION. IF THE POLICE CONVERSATION HAPPENS IN THE WAY THAT BOTH RIGHT NOW WITH 35 MILLION DOLLARS FOLLOWED WHAT PROVED TO BE BORROWED BY THE VOTERS. THEN THAT WILL 3 IMPACT IN. I DO BELIEVE THERE'S ANY WAY THAT I CAN SIT HERE GOOD FAITH IN FRONT OF YOU AND SAY WELL NOW WE NEED OPERATE RATE >> THAT WOULD NOT BE A WISE WILL IT SITUATION THAT IS NEEDED. >> I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THE NEED IS NOT HERE BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE OTHER CHOICES NOT FEEL LIKE WE WE ARE MAKING A CHOICE HEALTH WHEREAS OPPOSED TO WE DON'T WE SIT HERE AND THAT GOES BACK TO THE PRIORITIES THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IN THE RANKINGS AWAY WHERE DO WE WANT TO. BUT OUR FUNDING BUT THAT IS. CONSIDERATION RECOMMENDATION. ENTERPRISE RESOURCE PLANNING SYSTEM THE WE TALKED ABOUT THAT BRIEFLY BUT IT IS A HIGHLY COSTLY TO OUR CURRENT INTERNAL FRAMEWORK OF OPERATIONS IS VERY OLD. IT NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT THIS IS THE PROCESS THAT IS DONE EVERY. DECADE OR SO THAT LEAVE HONORS IS. OPERATING MULTIPLE THE CASE OF H IT WE'RE NOT MAXIMIZING OUR EFFICIENCY BY HAVING THE SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE. SO AS WE CONTINUE TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS COST WILL ARISE. I'M PROBABLY AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS PROCESS AS IT IS ABLE TO YOUR PROCESS. WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE THE INITIAL CAUSE AS WE GO THROUGH THE SUMMER THAT AS OUR TEAM CONTINUES EXPORT IDEALLY WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE ENOUGH MONEY HIS CURRENT YEAR OF REVENUE SO THAT WE CAN ENSURE. SO THAT WE DO WE DO. ASK FOR EVEN MORE THAN WHAT WE HERE THAT FOR 20 OR 25 REPORTED PROFIT YEAR. MAY NOT KNOW. I DON'T KNOW KNOW THAT INFORMATION BUT WE KNOW IT YOU'LL KNOW IT WILL PUT SOMETHING IN OUR BUDGET PROBABLY FOR NEXT YEAR EITHER AS PLACE FOR SOMETHING THAT DEFINE IT FOR THIS SPECIFIC BUT IT IS GOING TO BE EXPENSIVE IS GOING TO BE TIME WITH IT. BUT IT'S ALSO HURTING US SIR. WE TALK ABOUT HEADQUARTERED JUST A LITTLE BIT AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE IPO THE SURTAX WE HAVE THING THAT WE PROPOSE WE AS A REMINDER WE DID PROPOSE A 50 MILLION DOLLAR USE OF THE SURTAX WE DO NOT RECOMMEND IT GOING ANY BASED ON ALL THE REVENUE IS COLLECTED COLLECTED THAT WILL ALLOW US TO PERFORM WELL PROCESS OF USING IT TO BORROW A POOR HEADQUARTERS. WE DISCUSS AND TALK ABOUT YOUR ABILITY OR AUTHORITY TO REAR BASES PROJECTS WE'RE GOING INTO DEEPER DIVES INTO THE CITIZEN TAX OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE IS DIRECTLY LINKED TO THE SURTAX THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET THEM TOGETHER SO THAT THEY CAN PROVIDE I WOULD SAY SOME PEAS AS YOU GO FORWARD MEETING THE SET UP FOR A COUPLE OF SECONDS FOR YOU TO TALK TO THE TABLE BOARD WHICH WE'VE HEARD FROM THE WORLD AND THEIR CONCERNS. I'VE BEEN TALKING TO SOME OF THE OTHER AND OUR FINANCING OF THE TALKING SOME OF THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES NOT ONLY CONFIRMING YOU KNOW THAT THEY DO THE SAME THING THAT WE ALL DO SHIFT THE PRIORITIES AS THE NEEDS HAPPEN. BUT JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE DOCUMENTING IT IN THE PROPER WAY TO THE DOOR OF HOWEVER OVERALL THE WE HAD A CASE FOR TAX DOLLARS WHEN AND WHERE IS NEEDED WHICH IS YOUR CHOICE THE COMMISSION. THE REASON RQ GREAT. IT WAS SUCH A PROGRAM THE THE. THE ISLAND FOR DUE TO THE AND YESTERDAY WE QUITE A FEW ITEMS BASED ON OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH WORK WHICH WILL RICH. HEADQUARTERS THAT THIS WAS A VERY EXTENSIVE. THE POT OF GOING SO BE IT SO WE WILL NOT GET EVERYTHING THAT WE SUBMITTED, BUT WE BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE A VERY GOOD POSITION TO RECEIVE AS MUCH AS WE CAN WE HAVE A GREAT LEVEL OF SUPPORT FROM THE COUNTY AND I BELIEVE THE ARMY SAYS THE DESIRES OF THAT PARTICULAR GRANT. I DO BELIEVE AT SOME POINT TIME ONCE THEY GET TO THE PHASE OF OURS OUR RESIDENTS HAVING TO APPLY FOR. THEY'RE REALLY WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HELP THOSE I REALLY DO BELIEVE THAT. I MEAN THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT LISTENING TODAY NOT AWARE WHEN THAT OPPORTUNITY COMES SO MY MIND I SEE IS GOING ON THE COMMUNITY LAPTOPS AND HELPING PEOPLE REGISTER ON THE SPOT. MAYBE A MOLE, BUT OR WHEN WE SET UP SOMEWHERE WHERE THEY CAN COME US FIRST, BUT THE MALL. MY POINT IS I BELIEVE THAT WE'VE GOT TO HELP OUR COMMUNITY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS WE DO NOT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS AS THE HARDEST HIT AREA IN THIS PARTICULAR PARTICULAR COUNTY OF THIS PARTICULAR STATE. THEY WILL GIVE THIS MONEY SOME WORLD THEY ARE NOT GOING TO GET THIS MONEY BACK TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. IT'S YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SURE OUR PEOPLE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THEY SHOULD GET AS MUCH AS THE REBUILDING WE HAVE TAKEN FUNDS AS POSSIBLE. FINANCIAL SUPPORT COMMUNITY PROJECTS. THESE PROJECTS ARE LOOKING VERY GOOD THE SPARTANS EVEN I'M NOT FROM PLACES CITY OF GULFPORT YOU MIGHT REMEMBER THAT YOU DID AS A BOARD AS A CITY CONTRIBUTE TO THE STRAIN IS LIBRARY THAT WAS BUILT OVER IN ST. SEE SOCAL TECHNICAL COLLEGE IN THIS WOULD BE A VERY SIMILAR ASK IF IT GETS TO YOU. FOR THESE PROJECTS, THE YMCA TO GET THERE WAS $500,000 WERE WORKING WITH NOT ONLY OUR FRIENDS AT THE COUNTY FOR THEIR SUPPORT. BUT WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH OUR LOBBY TO THE STATE LEVEL FOR ITS SUPPORT WE TALKED TO HALEY DID SEE YESTERDAY YOU ALL SAW IN THAT THE LEGISLATIVE ACTION DAYS. HE'S OUT THERE AS ALWAYS DO A GREAT JOB POUNDING THE PAVEMENT. I WAS MADE AWARE THAT THE YMCA IN ARCADIA YESTERDAY WITH ABC $500,000. STATE LEVEL TO ONE THE SAME REPRESENTATIVE THAT WE GO THROUGH IN ORDER TO GET FUNDING SO I FEEL VERY GOOD AT THAT THE WHICH WILL HAVE NOT ONLY. CHILD THEY IT BUT PROGRAMMING FOR ARE DUE FOR CITY AS WELL. SOME COAST TECHNICAL COLLEGE EXPANSION. THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO UP FUNDING FROM THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IN THE OUT YOU SEE EARLY YEARS WE'VE ACTUALLY GOT A DONATION COMMITMENT FROM ESTIMATE TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT EXPANSION. WELL WE ARE REACHING OUT TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF THE NEED AND WE WILL KEEP YOU UPDATED TO DO AS TO HOW THEIR FUNDING IS GOING IN THE AMOUNT OF THE WHAT THEY HAVE VERSUS WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO SPIN. BUT IT IS GOING WELL AT THIS POINT. BEFORE WE GET THE QUESTIONS WE'RE GOING TO JUMP TO FOR THE TAKING SHOW YOUR RANKINGS AS A REMINDER WHAT YOU SAID WAS IMPORTANT TO YOU AND GET YOUR GUIDANCE AS WE BEGIN THE PROCESS. SO MUCH. WITH WE AND YOU LOOK AT TOP 3 DIDN'T YOU RIGHT HERE TO PROVIDE THIS FACT IS THAT FACILITIES WHICH IS VERY. VERY TIMELY CONSIDERING THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THE COP GREAT THAT FACILITIES JUST TOO OF POLICE HEADQUARTERS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAINTAINING OUR LOAD PRIME WE DID JUST THE CITY COME OUT, I THINK IT WAS CAUGHT. THAT SHOWED THAT WE WERE AND THE TOP 7 OF SAFE AND AFFORDABLE CITIES TO LIVE IN THE COUNTRY. WAR DATA AND INFORMATION CONTINUES TO COME OUT TO SUPPORT TO MAINTAIN OUR POSITION DURING A HIGH. PHASE OF GROWTH. IT WILL BE VERY EASY FOR THIS TO GET IF WE LET IT AND I WAS I ALWAYS SURE THAT WE KEEP OUR ARMS ARE WE ABOUT TO AROUND IT. AND WITH PROVIDE FOR 50 ABOUT CITIZENS TOO. IT'S CATIONS AND I RESPECT HIM PROGRAMS. WE ARE GRATEFUL THAT IOC WAS ABLE TO BE TAKEN CARE OF IT KID OUR CONVERSATIONS ABOUT 11 OR 12 MILLION DOLLARS. WITHOUT THAT HAVING IMPACT INCREASE AS WELL SO AGAIN THOSE ARE THE TOP 3 THAT IT WAS A POOR TO MAKE SURE THAT WE BRING YOU A BUDGET THAT REFLECTS THOSE AS IMPACTED. THE TOP 3 IN THE QUALITY OF LIFE ALERT FOR THINK HEARD THE AVAILABILITY OF A CULTURAL MUSIC IT TO PUBLIC AT UP FOR THAT WE OFFER. WE DO HAVE A GREAT OF A GREAT AMOUNT OF OUR PARTS AVAILABLE. THEY'VE RECOVERED. WELL THROUGH THE HURRICANE DISASTER. WE STILL ARE WORKING ON THE PARKS RECS MAINTENANCE LOCATION OVER AT DALLAS WHITE PARK TO CONTINUE. WE THROUGHOUT THIS SCHOOL YEAR. THE FOOTPRINT THERE STILL SCHEDULED TO. TO HAPPEN THAT IS ON A TEMPORARY BASIS. BUT WE BELIEVE THAT OUR PARKS ARE AVAILABLE AS IT SAYS WITH THE STAFF THAT OUR PART TO DIRECTOR THE AVAILABILITY OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS I'VE SEEN SOME DIFFERENT PROGRAMMING OPTIONS COME A BIT. THE DIVERSITY OF THOSE OPTIONS ARE HELPING OUR COMMUNITY. THEY WITH THE SUPPORT COMMUNITY EFFORTS THAT PROMOTE THE NATURAL KAKAR HIT THE IDENTITY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. BILL COMMUNITY COHESIVE THIS IN A BETTER. IT'S A PLACE FOR REPORT. WE CONTINUE TO HAVE OF EVENTS THAT OUR COMMUNITY WASHINGTON, IT'S THAT GIFT PEOPLE A SENSE OF I'M HEARING A LOT OF A LOT OF GOOD FEEDBACK ON WHAT PEOPLE DID NOT KNOW WERE AVAILABLE IN THE CITY OF NORTH PORT AS WE MAKE AVAILABLE IT'S A LEARNING CURVE AND THEY ARE THAT THEY HAVE TO PARTICIPATE. AND THE LAST 4TH SUPPORT MI FOR EXPANDED AMENITIES ARE RESOURCED IN COST SAVINGS TO CREATE PARTNERSHIPS AND NONPROFITS WE HE WE CAN DO BEATING THE DRUM OF THE CITY OF NORTH PORT IN ITS PARTNERSHIPS WITH NONPROFITS. IF WE CAN DO BETTER I THINK WE SHOULD BE BETTER I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO IT ALWAYS TAKE ADVANTAGE OPPORTUNITIES IN ARE NONPROFITS YOU KNOW ARE PARTS OUR COMMUNITY PART OF OUR IMPORTANT. IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE THERE WHEN THEY NEED US IS ALSO IMPORTANT BUT THEN TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE COMMUNITY PARTNER NOT A COMMUNITY PUNCHING BACK. SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WORK WITH ALL OF THEM TO LET THEM KNOW THAT WE CAN'T SOLVE EVERY PROBABLY DESIGNED THAT WAY, BUT WE CAN'T HAVE AN IMPORTANT IMPACT JUST ABOUT YOU PROBLEM ABOUT BEING THE SOLE ANSWER FOR EVERY PROBLEM. WHAT WOULD YOU GO TO WORLD LITTLE AND WE TALKED ABOUT WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS, THE PARTNERSHIP WITH A LOCAL AND NOT NOT FOR PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS. WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT WE ARE WORKING ONLINE RIGHT NOW AND OUR ABILITY TO WORK WITH. RESOURCE THE HOSTING OF. YOU THINK PROVING THAT WORK THAT YOU REPORT BASED PROGRAM PARTNER WITH THE SCHOOLS TOO ENSURING THAT WE PROVIDE A CONDUIT FOR WORK PROGRAM OR BOTH WERE IN HIGH SCHOOL WILL NOT WANT TO LEVEL OF HIGHER EDUCATION BUT STILL FIND A PERFECT PATHWAY. IN OUR. WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH THE SEC AS I MENTIONED EARLIER IN SHOW THAT THE HOSPITALS AND HEALTH CARE IN THIS COMMUNITY WE WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO HOPEFULLY TRANSITIONING THEM FROM WORKING FROM THE SEC TO ESTIMATE CA IN OUR COMMUNITY. THOSE JOBS AS WELL AS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO BE ABLE TO THERE FOR THOSE JOBS ARE VERY IMPORTANT. YOU ONLY SEE IN THE COVID IS BEING REWRITTEN OPEN UP MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT TO BE SUCCESSFUL. ALL OF THIS SORT OF TIES TOGETHER AS FIGHT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR HE CONTINUES ON THE CORRECT TRAJECTORY. 31 IN THIS CATEGORY WITH DEVELOP AND IMPROVE SERIES OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS AND POLICIES. PEOPLE WANT TO COME HERE PEOPLE WANT TO BE HERE BUT THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT OUR ABILITY TO HELP EASE THAT PATHWAY IS NECESSARY ANYTHING WE CAN DO WHAT WE ARE DOING IS APPRECIATED OUR FRIENDS AT THE ATC NOT FRIENDS OF THE ALWAYS HELPFUL IN TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RIGHT BUSINESS KIDS HERE WE EVEN HAVE. DEVELOPERS HELP WITH THE GAP SO WHAT WE NEED HERE AS FAR AS WHETHER THIS IS A TEAM THAT WHETHER IT'S A BETTER DIVERSITY TO KNOT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE KNOWS THAT THE DOOR IS OPEN OR OUR CONTINUED BENEFIT OF OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GROWTH. I WOULD BUY A IT THE IN ADDITION TO THE NATURAL RESOURCE DIVISION WHICH HAS IF THE GROUND RUNNING WITH SEVERAL PUBLIC. OPPORTUNITY OF INCLUSION HERE THEY'RE WORKING ON THE PUBLIC IS THE PLAN THEY HAVE BEEN. SO WAIT AS FAR AS LISTENING TO THE VOICE OF THOSE WHO HAVE ANY LONGER AND DEEPER SCARS THAN THEY DO AND THEY KNOW A LOT MORE ABOUT SO IN THE HISTORY OF WHAT WHAT ROLE TO HELP THEIR IT'S HAD BEEN GREATLY APPRECIATED AND LOVE IMAGE YOU KNOW LOVE THEIR LEADERSHIP, I'M GLAD THAT THEY ARE IMPACT OF THE COMMUNITY FOR PRIORITIES THAT WILL PUT PROGRAM SO OPERATIONS SHOULD BE THE ROLE THAT MADE HER CAUSE OF A QUALITY TESTING EVERY CYCLE PRACTICES. THESE GO STRAIGHT TO THE HEART OF YOU TO UTILITIES DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS OUR. DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, MAKE SURE THAT WE IN BODY. THESE PARTICULAR VALUES AS WE DO OUR DAY TODAY. SUPPORT ENVIRONMENT ON WITH THE THROUGH THE FEASIBILITY OF EMPLOYMENT IN PORT. IT WILL BE MANNING WHERE WE ARE LOOKING INTO THAT NOT BELIEVE WE HAVE THAT PERSON ON BOARD YET. WE WILL BRING YOU AN UPDATE ON THAT ARE VERY MIXED CONVERSATIONS IN OUR BUDGET PROCESS. 31 WIN THIS CATEGORY WITH THE SHORT NORTH PORT DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS CODE THE ORDINANCE IT GOES GREEN FOR PROTECTION OF THE COMMUNITIES. HE CAN'T BE NOW YOU I KNOW THAT WE'RE DOING IT YOU CAN IF YOU STUDY OVERALL THAT WILL ALLOW US TO KNOW THE EXACT PERCENTAGE OF OUR TREE CANOPY WE ARE AGAIN VERY CONSCIOUS AND AWARE THAT EVERYTHING WE DO HAS AN IMPACT ON NOT ONLY THE TREES, BUT ALSO OUR WILDLIFE AND MAKING SURE THAT THOSE ARE CONTEMPLATED IT ALLOWED FOR IN THE BEGINNING OF OUR PROCESSES NOT IN THE MIDDLE FOR THE IS THE ONLY WAY THAT YOU TRULY TAKE CARE OF YOUR ENVIRONMENT PHYSICALLY SHOW YOUR EFFORTS. I BELIEVE THAT WE'RE DOING WE'RE VERY HAPPY THAT OUR CODES AND ORDINANCES, INCLUDING THE ONE THAT YOU WILL ADOPT A ABC ARE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THIS VALUE THAT YOU HAVE SAID IS IMPORTANT TO YOU. THOUGHT SOME OF THE THAT EVERY TOP 3 ARE ARE ACTIVELY. BE ABLE TO TO WORK WITH JOSEPH TO STORE WATER. CONVEYANCES WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AS NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE THE BUDGET TO DO ONE OR 2 IN OUR BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR, BUT THE ONES THAT WE GET FROM THE SRQ ARE GOING TO HELP US OUT EVEN AFTER THAT WE STILL KNOW THAT THERE WILL BE MORE THAT ARE NEEDED SO WE TALK ABOUT THE THE BORROWING AUTHORITY FOR THIS CITY. A LOT OF IT SHOULD WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERED FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND I WORK STRUCTURES THAT WE KNOW ARE AGING. WE WOULD WE WOULD MUCH PREFER TO. THEY TAKING PREPARE AND OR REPLACE THEM BEFORE THEY GET TO A POINT AGING OUT HAWLEY TOLD THAT WE WANT TO AVOID ARE WE ROADWAYS BRIDGES AND ADDRESS SOLO PORT. ROADS AGREE THAT A B PLUS RIGHT NOW OVERALL IS THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD ALL THE VERY PROBLEM OF THERE ARE A LOT OF JURISDICTIONS THAT ARE NOT CLOSE PROXIMITY THAT YOU ROADWAYS DOLLARS. WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MAINTAIN THAT BY PUTTING MONEY INTO OUR A ROAD WE HAVE EACH AND EVERY YEAR WE WILL CONTINUE THAT YOU KNOW THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING PRICE BOULEVARD WHICH IS ONE OF THE MAIN ROADWAYS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT RECENT MEMORY EVEN WITH THE CONSIDERATION OF THE 50 MILLION DOLLARS SURTAX NO EFFECT 0 EFFECT ON PRICE BOULEVARD WINDING PHASE ONE WHICH IS UNDERWAY RIGHT NOW HAS ALREADY BEEN A LOT OF FOR IT WILL BE COMPLETE OVER NEXT YEAR SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT PRICE BOULEVARD COMING OFF OF THE TO DO LIST TO BE ON COMPLETED WITH CONNECTIVITY OF THE CITY'S TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR WAYS THAT WE HAVE A FEW IDEAS ABOUT HOW TO OPEN UP A FEW DIFFERENT. HAVE A NEWS IN THIS CITY, WE KNOW THAT WHEN HURRICANES BAD IS IT HAPPENED IN THE CITY WE NEED TO AVOID. J OWNS IS FRUSTRATION FOR FEEDING SITUATION HALF OF OUR. RESIDENTS AS MUCH WE CAN I THINK IT'S LONG OVERDUE THAT WE HAVE MORE EAST TO WEST AS YOU BETTER PRIORITY. SO THAT WE CAN IMPROVE IT. CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE THROUGHOUT THE TOO GOT TO GET THROUGH OUR. GOOD GOVERNANCE TOP 3 BY COMEY AND MODERN A LOT OF ADVANCES WILL IT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THIS YOU THINK DIRECTLY ABOUT ERP THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER THAT'S EXIT. THIS IS EXACTLY TIED TO THAT THAT WOULD IMPROVE FINANCES AND HR SAYS IT WILL BE ABLE COMMUNICATE BETTER WITH THE NEW ACELA SYSTEM THAT'S COMING INTO OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND PLANNING. WE WANT ALL OF OUR NEW TECHNOLOGY TO BE ABLE TO TALK TO EACH OTHER THROUGH THE WORST THING YOU CAN HAVE AS THE SYSTEM OF INTERFACE WITH THEY HAVE TO SORT OF FEED OFF OF STAYING INFORMATION TO CREATE AN ECONOMY OF SCALE. WE'RE USING MULTIPLE SYSTEMS TO HAVE A MULTIPLIER EFFECT AND TO BE MORE VALUABLE THAN JUST PIECE OF EQUIPMENT. SECOND WOULD MAXIMIZE OUTSIDE RESOURCES. A SUPPORTING PART OF SOMETHING GREAT IT IS. I LOVE OUR I THINK THEY DO A PHENOMENAL JOB I MILES AS HE HELPS OUT WITH OUR STATE PARTNERS ARE DOING A PHENOMENAL JOB. WE JUST GOT TO KEEP GOING WE JUST HAVE TO KEEP ASKING. I TOLD OUR. OUR LOBBYIST YESTERDAY AFTERNOON FELT LIKE I HAD MY CAN NOT BEGIN FOR THE ENTIRE 30 MINUTE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD THAT AND IT TRULY BECAUSE WE'RE CHILLY ASKING FOR A LOT IN. I WANT TO KNOW THAT IT'S A PROBLEM OR IS THAT A LOT EVERYONE ASKING FOR A LOT WE'RE NOT SPECIAL AND THAT'S THAT'S WHAT IT DOES IT. DOESN'T HURT EITHER SO WILL ASK FOR EVERYTHING IT WILL GET WHAT WE GET IT WE'LL TAKE IT WILL MAKE THE BEST OF IT GRATEFUL TO MOVE BUT IT IS IT IS A PRIORITY AS IT IS TO YOU AS IT IS AND LASTLY THERE PROVIDE MULTI-YEAR BUT IT'S THAT SO EXPENSIVE THAT WILL INCREASE OVER WHAT TWO-YEAR PERIOD. WE ARE GOING TO GIVE YOU THAT SHOW YOU THAT TRAJECTORY IN SHOW WITH IT BEING SO THAT HOPEFULLY THAT YOU CAN SEE DECISIONS THAT YOU MAKE THIS YEAR WILL HAVE LONG. LONG-TERM I'D HAVE SAID NOT KEEP SAYING THIS YEAR THAT WE'RE IN BASED ON EVERYTHING IS ON THE PLATE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT YEAR IN THE HISTORY OF THE CITY FOR MULTIPLE REASONS THAT I THINK THAT WE ARE WE ARE WE ARE STEPPING UP TO THE PLATE RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT EVEN HALFWAY FINISHED, BUT WE WILL GET THROUGH SOME OF THE TOUGH CHALLENGES IN CHOICES THAT YOU GUYS HAVE ALL THE DAILY BASES IT. WE EVEN GIVE ME THE RIGHT INFORMATION TO GREAT DECISIONS IF YOU'RE NOT GETTING PLEASE. IT'S NO WE WILL GET MORE AND MORE THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT I KNOW IT'S A LOT YOU HAVE LOT OF QUESTION OR INPUT, WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING IT IN. WELCOME TO THE VOTING PROCESS OK SURE THAT'S IT. >> I LET ME TELL AS A OF THAT. >> AND DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS YOU WANT OR COMMISSIONER QUESTION WE'RE HERE TO ALL RIGHT IF KNOW SOMETHING ELSE WAS TO BE AT THEIR ICE THERE. >> THEY'RE HAVING YOU WANT TO HANDLE THIS PROCESS YOU WANT GIVE US A. LIKE 10 MINUTES EACH SURE ROUND LIKE QUESTION AT A TIME I MEAN OBVIOUSLY ALL OF WRITING QUITE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS SO I >> YEAH I THOUGHT AT LEAST GET IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION PARTICULAR OBVIOUSLY TOPIC. WE HAVE >> WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT WE HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT SAME TOPIC WHILE OVERALL NEVER BEFORE IN THE LAW TO SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT AND THEN WE'LL GO LIKE YOU SAID ROUND ROBIN. >> IF A QUESTION FROM A DIFFERENT COMMISSIONER AND THEN WE HAVE A QUESTION OF THE TIME. WELL JUST YEAH JUST A I LIKE THAT APPROACH, >> BUT IT REQUIRE DISCIPLINE NOT ALL OF OUR PART TO NOT SO DIGRESS BUT TO STAY ON TOPIC CAME OUT TO MY BACKSIDE I LIKE THAT OKAY. VICE MAYOR. >> I WOULD I WOULD MOST PRESSING. QUESTION FIRST. MOST DIFFICULT ONES. I KNOW BETTER HANDLE FIRST. GET THEM OUT OF THE WAY. >> I GUESS FIRST QUESTION IS. >> AT WHAT POINT WILL WE BE ABLE TO SEE ALMOST TWO-YEAR BUDGET SNAPSHOT. GIVE US AN PROJECTIONS. NOT JUST FOR THIS YEAR'S BUDGET. BUT OVER THE NEXT 5 YEARS LIKE BACK HOME EARLY IN THE PROCESS, MIDDLE OF THE PROCESS AFTER THE BUDGETS OVER OR. >> TO YOU SEE HOW LOW THEY WOULD THINK IT'S GOING TO SHOULD EARLIER TOO LITTLE IT CAN BE AFTER OVER. IT IS A PROJECTION BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW AT THIS TIME OF COURSE THE STICK TO I THINK THE BIG THING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE WHEN YOU SEE THAT SECTION IS YOU'RE GOING GET OUR EXPENSES ARE NOT NOT IN LINE WITH OUR REVENUES. IF WE DO NOT HAVE ANY INCREASE REVENUE SOURCE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE COUNT THE NUMBER ME UNABLE OVERCOME, YOU KNOW THAT CAN COME IN MULTIPLE WAYS, THE COMMERCIAL IN THE GROWTH RATE FOR GROWTH IS THE PRIMARY WAY THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO GROW OUR REVENUE STREAMS. WE BELIEVE THAT THE IMPACT OF THE EFFORTS OF OUR TOOLS SHOULD BE REALIZE THAT WILL BE REALIZED AS WE CONTINUE ON THAT PATH. WAIT FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GROWTH IS IS JUST NOT OVERNIGHT PROCESS TAKES A WHILE AS WE GROW WE SEE THAT YOU HAVE OPPORTUNITIES FRONT OF YOU WHERE YOU ARE IMPROVING SITUATION WHERE THE PRESIDENTIAL MIX USED A COMMERCIAL. THOSE ONES THAT YOU'RE APPROVING IN THE DESIRE TO SAY WILL ALL OF THAT MORE THAT SHOULD BE COMMERCIAL IT. IT ESTIMATES THAT IT'S NOT ONLY WHAT YOU WANT AS A BOARD OR WHAT ADVOCATE NEEDS AS IT DOES THAT ENTER. I THINK THIS CITY HAS HAD. ATTITUDE IN THE PAST OF WELL I DO GET WHAT I WANT THAT WE'RE DOING IT. NOTHING HAPPENS EVERY ONE OF WHAT YOU'RE SEEING NOW IS A DESIRE AND A MENTALITY OF FINDING A WAY TO GET TO YES AND IT LOOKS LIKE IN A FUND THAT YOU'RE GIVING UP TOO MUCH JUST TO GET YES. BUT WHAT WE ARE DOING I WANT US TO SORT OF OUTLINED WHERE THE POCKETS OF GROWTH WILL UP NEXT I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO SEE THEM ON MAP BE ABLE TO THESE ARE THE DIFFERENT AREAS OF DEVELOPMENT THE NECK TO BE THERE ARE GOING TO LEAD MOVE THAT NEEDLE FROM 8% 20%. BUT. ALL OF THAT IS TO SAY THAT THAT'S WHAT THE PROJECTION IS GOING TO SHOW YOU WHEN WE I'LL TURN IT OVER TO NOW TO SEE IF THEY THINK ABOUT WE CAN PROVIDE THAT TO YOU SIR. >> WE DIDN'T HAVE THE 5 YEAR PROJECTION FROM LAST YEAR. >> WE WERE NOT ABLE TO UPDATE IT THAT AT THIS POINT BECAUSE WE HAVE THE BUDGET REQUEST IN FROM THE PARTNERSHIP. >> SO AS SOON AS WE CAN PUT ALL THAT TOGETHER KNOW WHAT THE REQUESTS ARE AND CAN HAVE ENOUGH OF THE REVENUE PROJECTIONS WE CAN PROVIDE. IT WILL BE VERY PRELIMINARY AT THAT POINT AND WE'LL UPDATE IT AS THE DEVELOPMENT GOES ALONG. >> I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING IS YOU KNOW. FROM A REVENUE STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW. WE'VE BEEN PROGRESSING ALONG THE PROCESS OF. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. WE'VE GOT WELL AND ARE EXPANDING. WE'VE GOT THE ANDERSON SPACE TOO GOT UNDERWAY. WE'VE GOT A NUMBER PROJECTS HIGHER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL GOING THERE'S ALL THESE PROJECTS. GENERATE WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OR WILL IN THE NEAR FUTURE OR ITS FUTURE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS I'D LOVE BE ABLE TO SEE ON A WORKSHEET THAT SAYS SHE AND KNOWING THAT SO LEAVING, I KNOW THEIR BUT TO BE ABLE TO SAY WELL IM PARK IS CONTRIBUTING. THESE KINDS REVENUE STREAMS OVER THE NEXT 5 YEARS ANDERSEN'S EXPANSION PROGRAM IT'S IT'S GOING TO BE DROPPING IN THESE KINDS OF DOLLARS BECAUSE CITIZENS LOOK AT THE DECISIONS WE MAKE. REAL ICE, THE PAIN. THEY GO THROUGH AS MAKE THESE DECISIONS IN MANY CASES AND THEY'RE LOOKING FOR THE END GAME WHERE THOSE DOLLARS. HOW LONG IS IT GOING TO TAKE AND IF ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE GOING TO ASK AT ANY POINT IN TIME. TO INCREASE ANY. A MEMO OF THEIR PROPERTY TAXES. AS A CITIZEN I WANT TO KNOW WHAT WILL WILL OUT MONEY THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE COMMENT FROM THIS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THAT'S I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR IT FOR A YEAR AND A HALF AND I KNOW IT'S NOT EASY THING AGAIN HARD IT IS TO PROJECT. BUT THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO SEE SOME HOW SOME WAY. >> AND AS WE'RE COLLECTING NOT ONLY THE BUDGET REQUEST FROM THE DEPARTMENT'S THAT'S A PART OF IT IS WELL WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH THEM ON BUDGET PROJECTIONS, INCLUDING THE REVENUE SIDE. THAT IS A JOINT EFFORT BETWEEN FINANCE AND THE PROGRAM AREAS SHOULD BE ABLE TO DEVELOP THOSE PROJECTIONS. WHAT THE REVENUE WILL BE THANK YOU MA'AM. >> OKAY ANY OTHER QUESTION ABOUT THAT I HAVE SOMETHING VERY >> IN ADDITION CURRENT DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS JUST TO MAKE THE CHALLENGE EVEN MORE INTERESTING. I THINK WE NEED TO TARGET SOME REALLY STRATEGIC PROJECTS. THAT ARE IN THE EARLY STAGES OF DEVELOPMENT. AND. ESTABLISH SOME EXPECTATIONS AROUND THOSE SO THE ONE THAT'S VERY TOP OF MY MIND THESE DAYS IS THE CONVERSATION AROUND BATTLE LIKE. THAT'S THAT VERY CLOSE TO THE INTERSECTION OF PRICE AND TOLEDO BLADE. WHICH PARENT THAT UGLY THE GEOGRAPHIC CENTER OF CITY. OBSERVED AND I COULD BE WRONG PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M OFF BASE ON THIS BUT THAT PROPERTY PROBABLY IS THE LAST. PROPERTY THAT COULD CONCEIVABLY BECOME A DOWNTOWN AREA FROM THE CITY. AND I HAVE REAL CONCERNS FROM WHAT I'M HEARING ABOUT THAT PROJECT THE THE RELATIVE RELATIONSHIP OF HOUSING VERSUS COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL IN THAT LOCATION. IF IF WE. LOSE THAT PROPERTY. 2 RESIDENTIAL AND IT DOESN'T DEVELOP ENOUGH TO BE TRUE DOWNTOWN GATHERING PLACE. I SEE THAT POTENTIALLY ONE OF THE MOST STRATEGIC DEVELOPMENTS ON THE BOARDS. CURRENTLY. THAT WILL HAVE MAJOR IMPACT. YOU KNOW THE QUALITY OF LIFE, I MEAN I LOOK AT QUALITY OF LIFE IS MORE THAN PARKS. I LOOK AT AS ECONOMIC VIBRANCY AND HAVING GATHERING PLACES AND ENTERTAINMENT FOR EVERYBODY UP AND DOWN AGE SPECTRUM. AND WE LOSE THAT THAT'LL BE A REAL SHAME. >> WELL I DO WHEN THEY IT WE WILL GET YOU AN UPDATE TO SEE WHERE WE'RE AT MAKING SURE THAT IT WELCOME TO SITUATION YOU JUST AND DRIVE TRISTIAN JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THAT IS. >> PUBLICLY THEY DON'T KNOW, BUT WE'RE WORKING WITH THE PEOPLE WHO DO OWN LETTING THEM KNOW OUR INTENT SAYING THAT VISION OF WHAT IT CAN BE AS WE TALK ABOUT A WALKABLE BASED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CITY, YEAH. THAT'S WHY WE ARE BEST OPTION TO GET WHAT WE WANT. RIGHT THERE OKAY. GOOD IDEA, SURE ALL RIGHT THING ELSE ON THAT AN ACT WHICH MCDOWELL YOU HAVE. QUESTION BUT THAT YEAH. >> YES IT SPEAKING ABOUT MAYBE IT'S TIME CREATE OVERLAY DISTRICT. >> THAT'S MISSION. WE KNOW. AND WE CLEAR DIRECTION OF WHAT YOU ENVISION FOR AREA OVER LEE DISTRICT STAFF AND ALL OVER MANY DIFFERENT CITIES. MAYBE THAT'S OPTION TOO. CHECKED IT. I SAY THAT THE QUOTES BECAUSE WE DON'T OWN THE PROPERTY. IT IS AN ACTIVITY CENTER. AND I WOULD HATE TO HAVE YOU DEVELOPED. THAT'S RESIDENTIAL. WHEN THAT PROPERTY OR. I TELL FOR THE CITY ONLY DOWNTOWN. BUT IF DON'T DO SOMETHING YOUR DIRECTION TOO. THE CITY MANAGER AND STAFF. THEN WE'RE GOING TO STOP WITH WHATEVER COMES BEFORE US REALLY IT'S TIME STATION NEED TO START. GOING TO COMMISSIONER STEPS HIS POINT ABOUT THE PROJECTIONS OVER THE NEXT 5 YEARS. SEEING ON NEWS WE ALSO CAN YOU SAY THAT CENTRAL BANK. LOOK BOTH SIDES OF >> THAT'S A LITTLE AND SORRY ABOUT REVIEWED ALL OF BUT YEAH WE DEFINITELY HAVE TO LOOK AT THE EXPENSES SIDE TO TO BALANCE THAT SCALE. LOOK AT IT IN TOTALITY SO THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO WEIGH IN THAT SUBJECT IN ON THAT QUESTION. >> I JUST HAD QUESTION COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL AND YOU OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD. GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF OVERLAY DISTRICT SOMEWHERE THAT. >> TO BE HONEST I DON'T EVER REMEMBER SEEING OVERLAY COME BEFORE THE COMMISSION IN THE PAST 9 OTHER THERE THAT IF ONE THING I BELIEVE LIKE THE CITY OF PUNTA GORDA HAS AN OVERLAY DISTRICTS CITY OF SARASOTA USES OVERLAY THEY HAVE. THEY HAVE THIS IS THE WAY OWN. THIS IS OUR VISION. BUT THIS WILL OR COLOR AREA. YEAH THAT PARTICULAR AREA ITS OWN THIS WAY THIS IS WHAT THE COMP PLAN SAYS NOW WE CREATED OVERLAY DISTRICT WHICH IS KIND OF LIKE PUTTING IT TOP AND SAYING WE WANT THIS HERE IN THAT SO STEPH IS FAR MORE EQUIPPED TO EXPLAIN OVERLAY DISTRICTS THAT I AM BUT THEY DO WORK IN OTHER MUNICIPALITIES COUNTIES USE WE DON'T HAVE ANY HERE NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF I DON'T I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY STREETS. I MEAN WE MIGHT HAVE THE. A PLAN, I'M THE FIRST ONE THAT COMES TO MIND IS THE MYAKKA HATCH CORRIDOR RIGHT, BUT IT'S NOT OVERLAY DISTRICT RIGHT NOW ACTUALLY. PRODUCE SOMETHING THAT LOOKING FOR YEAH LIKE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT I THINK FOR PARKS, THEY USE THEM FOR A WIDE VARIETY OF DIFFERENT THINGS. YOU CAN'T THERE CHANTAL POINT OF ORDER. >> WE MAY WELL IT AS WE GO QUESTION BY QUESTION. IT REALLY DOES LEND ITSELF TO GOING OFF ON TANGENTS AND FOUND THAT SHOULD PULL OUT VERY NOTE DON'T GET ME WRONG REALLY GOOD CONVERSATIONS TO BE I DIDN'T NEED TO. >> BUT. THE IT WERE BUDGET AND WILL GO ALL DAY I GOT DOZEN OR MORE FINANCIAL QUESTIONS THAT WE REALLY NEED TO FOCUS ON TO THAT'S IT THAT'S THE ATTENTION YOU'RE BUT BY NO MEANS DO NOT MISUNDERSTAND INTRIGUED BY WHAT COMMISSIONER ALSO THESE CONVERSATIONS ABSOLUTELY NEED TO HAPPEN AT SOME POINT IN TIME BUT WE'VE GOT TO REALLY STAY ON. I JUST A FRACTION OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A PROJECTION OF OF. >> PROPERTIES AND AND REVENUE THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE PRODUCE SO I THOUGHT THAT KIND FELL IN LINE WITH THAT BUT THANKS FOR BRINGING THAT UP JUST ALL RIGHT AND SO WILL MOVE A MISSION MCDOWELL. >> YOU KNOW I HAVE I HAVE A LOT OF KIND OF >> THE. >> FIRST ONE COMES TO MIND. >> AND IT IS THE. >> I ARM. >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT PAGE NUMBER IT IS ON THE POWER POINT BUT IT SAYS THESE ASSUMPTIONS WILL BRING IN AN ADDITIONAL 2.3 MILLION DOLLARS USING THE SAME MILLAGE RATE. BUT WHEN YOU FLIP OVER TOWARDS THE END OF THE POWER POINT. IT SHOWS THAT. THERE IS A 5.4 MILLION DOLLARS TOTAL. AND I'M WONDERING. THAT DOESN'T ADD UP. >> AND OR IS A TOTAL OF ALL THE ITEMS I THOUGHT THEY WERE CLOSE CALL. DRY OF ALL THE CHANGES, OKAY THE TOP YURI A 2.3 WAS JUST THE PROPERTY TAX. CORRECT SO. >> CURIOUS WHERE ARE WE COMING UP WITH ALMOST 3 MILLION DOLLAR SHORTFALL WHERE IS THAT COMING UP FRONT. >> WHERE WILL IT COME IT WILL COME OUT OF THE RANKING OF PARTIES THAT I SAID THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE THOSE CHOICES. IN THE BACK TO YOU TO SHOW YOU WHERE WE'RE GOING TO FIND IT. AS WE GET MORE REVENUE AND WE HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO CUT EXPENSES. >> I JUST NOTICE THE DIFFERENCE IN THE DOLLAR AMOUNT KNOW AT COMING IN AS USUALLY PAYS FOR THESE INSURANCES SALARY INCREASES NIGHT JUST SAW THE DIFFERENCE AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS SAW THAT WANTED TO GET BETTER UNDERSTAND KNOW WHERE THAT DIFFERENCE WOULD >> IF YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION ALONG THOSE SAME AND THAT'S LIKE I SAID MY QUESTIONS ARE MORE PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. YEAH AND OKAY. WELL, GET TO SOME OF THEM. I THINK. >> THE THANK MADAM MAYOR AND GENERAL FUND ASSUMPTIONS I UNDERSTAND CORRECT ME IF I'M OFF THAT THE 7.5% IS OUR ESTIMATE BUT WILL BE WAITING ON THE COUNTY ASSESSOR'S OFFICE FOR THE FINAL NUMBER. FOR AN INTERIM AND FINAL NUMBER I JUST WANTED TO VOICED SOME CONCERNS ON THAT I'M ASSUMING THIS IS BASED ON ASSESSED VALUE. >> ITS >> OWN TAXABLE TAXABLE AND TAXABLE VALUE IS BASED ON. ASSESSED VALUE MARKET VALUE. >> ON ASSESSED LESS EXEMPTIONS OR THAT YOU HAVE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, OKAY. >> THAT'S WHAT I BECAUSE I JUST HAVE SOME CONCERN THAT A LOT OF EVIDENCE THAT SALES PRICE IS BEGINNING TO IN THIS AREA. >> WHEN I LOOK AT MY OWN TRIM NOTICES A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT DELTA BETWEEN MY ASSESSED VALUE AND MY ESTIMATED SALES VALUE SO SO MAYBE I'M BEING OVERLY WENT BENCH. BUT WE SHOULD TIGHTEN OUR BELTS ON THAT BECAUSE I WOULDN'T BE AT ALL SURPRISED IF IT COMES IN AT LESS THAN 7.5%. BUT AGAIN YOU GUYS WATCH THAT ALL THE TIME I DO NOT SO WHAT YOU'RE FEELING. FOR WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE WHEN THE FINAL NUMBERS COME IN. >> ALWAYS LOOKING FOR CRYSTAL BALL, I'M 20%. >> YOU FOR THAT I THINK IT BROUGHT MAY BE AT 13%. IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN THAT. LAST YEAR THE SUMMER'S THAT IT IS VERY CONSERVATIVE NUMBER I THINK THAT NUMBER COME TO THE LOWER 70'S THAT THEN WE DIFFERENT >> IT IS OUR OPINION THAT IS CONSERVATIVE AND AND A LOT DIFFERENT YOU MAY BE SEEING IS SAVE OUR HOMES, A JUST NATION AND THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING SUCH DIFFERENCE ON YOUR >> THANK YOU THAT'S ALL I ON THAT TOPIC COMMISSIONER 1000 OF THE QUESTION YET ALONG THAT TOPIC SO >> ASSESSED VALUES IS AS OF JANUARY 1ST OF THIS YEAR. SO WHILE WE MAY START SEEN SOME CHANGES IN THE ECONOMICS OF HOMES SELL PRICING AND STUFF LIKE THAT. THOSE ASSESSED VALUES ARE ALREADY LIKE BLOCKED FOR THESE DISCUSSION POINTS IT MAY AFFECT NEXT YEAR'S ABSOLUTELY. BUT I THINK THOSE ASSESSED VALUES AND PRETTY MUCH LOCKED IN. MY QUESTION ON THAT SAME LINES IS THAT TAXABLE VALUE IS THAT INCLUDING ALL OF THE NEW NEW PROPERTIES THAT WERE BROUGHT IN. >> FROM ONLINE FROM BACON PROPERTY TO IMPROVE PROPERTY. IS IT. THE ALSO INCLUDING ANY SALE TRANSFERS LIKE MY SAVE MY HOMES IS 15 YEARS OLD I SELL TO SOMEBODY ELSE IT RESET EVERYTHING. IT IS THAT TAKING BOTH OF THOSE SCENARIOS INTO CONSIDERATION. YES, OKAY, AND IT'S THE COMMERCIAL IS ALSO INCLUDED. YES, THANK I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS REGISTERING THE SUN. THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT I QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ON LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES AND COUNTIES THE. >> THE CHART THERE THAT. >> AND IN NORTH PORT 1, 1, 1, 5, WHAT HOW DOES THAT. FIGURED OUT IS THAT OUR COUNTY AND CITY TAX TOGETHER. OR WHAT I DO UNDERSTAND THAT. THE EFFECT OF MILLAGE RATE FOR 1000. YEAH THAT INCLUDES. >> ONLY PORT ARE MILEAGE AND THEN EFFECTORS ANY OF OUR ASSESSMENTS SO AND THIS IS A CALCULATION THAT WE DO JUST TO TRY COMPARE EVENLY. SO WE'VE BACK THROUGH OUR FIRE SUSSMAN EVERY EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE SO THAT WE CAN COMPARE TO. >> JUST IN TIME A LEVEL PLAYING OK, SO IT'S JUST WHAT IS EXCLUSIVE TO PORT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE COUNTY TAX AND THEY ARE OKAY THAT WAS MY FIRST BECAUSE SOMEBODY. >> THAT'S THE ABOUT THAT AND THAT'S AGAIN THE NUMBERS DON'T ADD UP, BUT THAT'S WHY I WAS LOSING THE RIGHT NUMBERS AND THAT PER CAPITA REVENUE. >> NUMBERS NORTH PORT IS $601 AND. >> YEAH LOOK AT THAT LONG BUT K WHICH IS OVER 3300. >> BUT >> WHAT WOULD YOU SAY IS A LAY PERSON'S TERM OF EXPLAINING THAT I WAS SAYING IT'S LIKE A CONTRIBUTION PER RESIDENT AS OPPOSED TO OUR PROPERTY TAXES ARE COLLECTED SINGLE HOUSE WHETHER THERE'S ONE PERSON IN IT YOU'RE SERVING FOR 10 PEOPLE. TAKES INTO ACCOUNT YESES PER PERCENT WHAT THEY'RE CONTRIBUTING TO OUR. THAT'S THE. >> GOVERNMENT HAS PER CITIZEN. AND SO OF COURSE THE LONGBOW KEYS IS A REFLECTION OF HIGHER VALUES THERE. A LOT OF BUYERS IS OUR HIGH POPULATION COMPARED TO MANY OF THEM WITH SIMILAR REVENUE OR LOWER REVENUE FOR A LARGER POPULATION. >> OKAY, SO WOULD BE ACCURATE TO SAY THAT BECAUSE WHEN COURT IS LITTLE OVER $600 ALONG BUT ARE $300 THAT. PEOPLE ARE GETTING PRETTY GOOD VALUE FOR THEIR SERVICES LONGBOAT KEY PROVIDING SERVICES FOR THEIR CITIZENS, BUT IT'S BECAUSE THEIR VALUES ARE HIGHER COSTUME. THAT NUMBER IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S CAUSING A LOT MONEY FOR THAT IS THAT ACCURATE WAY OR NOT. >> ONLY WAY TO THINK ABOUT OUT REALLY LIKE TO COMPARE US TO LONGBOAT KEY BECAUSE THERE'S ECONOMIES OF SCALE IN THAT AS WELL BUT IT'S BUT WE'RE GETTING A GOOD VALUE, ESPECIALLY FOR THE QUALITY, BUT REALLY THAT'S RIGHT WE THAT I WOULD ONE COMMUNITY HAS MORE WEALTH THAN OTHERS BASED ON THE PER PERSON PER CAPITA YOU LOOK AT THE 6 OR 8.30. IT JUST SHOWS HOW WEALTHIER THEY ARE AND WE WANT TO IMPROVE OUR BY IMPROVING. THAT IS IN OUR COMMUNITY BUT THAT'S ABOUT IT. >> RIGHT OKAY DEVELOPMENT IN TERMS HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU'RE SERVING RIGHT. SO WITH THAT KIND OF EVALUATE ARE YOU PROVIDING AND YES, THEY'RE THEY'RE HAPPY YOU'RE HIRED, BUT THEY'RE STILL SERVING NUMBER OF PEOPLE. JUST BECAUSE THEIR PROPERTY VALUES ARE HIGHER AS SOME PEOPLE SAY WELL THAT'S WHY THEY SHOULD CHARGE TAXES BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING SO MUCH MORE TO BALANCE THAT HAS THAT I DON'T I DON'T THINK IT WORKS THAT WAY BUT. PRETTY MUCH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING NO THAT'S NOT REALLY WHAT LOOK AT IT. >> SO THE TOWN OF LONGBOAT KEY IS SPLIT BETWEEN THE 2 COUNTY MAN AND POPULATION IS CONSIDERABLY LOWER. AS FAR RESIDENTIAL POP RIGHT JEN IT'S VERY LOW. I JUST FOUND OUT THAT THE MINNESOTA LEAGUE OF CITIES MEETING THAT THERE. IF THEY ARE TO INCREASE IF THEY HAVE ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT INCREASES RESIDENCY. APPALACHIAN A AS IT THAT STAY THERE. YEAR AROUND TIME THEY HAVE TO GO TO A CHARTER IT'S BECAUSE THEIR RESIDENTS, THEIR POPULATION NUMBERS ARE SO SMALL. BUT THEY HAVE A LARGER BENEFIT OF THE NON RESIDENTIAL IN THEIR RIGHT WHICH NOT HOMESTEAD CORRECT SO THAT HAS A HUGE BEARING ON THE DIFFERENCE IT ALSO BECAUSE LIKE THEY SAID ECONOMISTS SCALES TOTALLY GET. MADAM MAYOR I HAD A QUESTION ON ONE OF PREVIOUS THEY BE US RAMPS LOOKING BACK AT THE EFFECT OF MILLAGE RATE PER 1000. JUST TO BE CLEAR I SEE THAT SARASOTA COUNTY IS BROKEN OUT INTO 3 BUCKETS. SO I'M INTERPRETING THAT THE COUNTY MILLAGE EITHER FOR SARASOTA IS THE CITY OF VENICE IS CHARGED OR THE CITY OF PORT IS CHARGED IS THAT CORRECT. AND THEN THEY CHARGE A HIGHER RATE FOR THE CITY OF SARASOTA BECAUSE THEY PROVIDE MORE SERVICE, THEY'RE LIKE. POLICE IS CORRECT. AND AND THEN THE TAX RATE FOR ALL OF THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WAS CLEAR ON OUT. >> OKAY WE'LL LOOK AT THIS REAL QUICK ANSWER THAT SHORTLY. OKAY, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, VICE MAYOR EUROPE. SECOND ROUND. LOOKING LOOKING AT PART OF THE >> YOU KNOW WITH WITH UNION INCREASE SALARIES CPI. HEALTH INSURANCE OPERATING COST INFLATION, LOOKING AT 5.4 MILLION OF INCREASED GENERAL FUND COSTS. VS. A PROJECTION THAT WITH. THE CONSERVATIVE ENOUGH AND I WOULD SAY IT'S VERY CONSERVATIVE 7.5%. INCREASING PROPERTY. O PLUS JUST GENERAL AT INCREASES YOU KNOW WITH WITH THE 96.5% COLLECTION RATE. WE ANTICIPATE 2.3 MILLION OF REVENUE TO GO AGAINST THAT 5.4 DEFICIT, OKAY, OR SHORT ALSO SPEAK INCREASING COSTS THAT WE HAVE SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ROUGHLY 3.1 MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE'RE LOOKING >> THE STAFF WHAT CITIES. >> STRATEGY FOR HOW TO APPROACH. COST CUTTING. THAT'S NECESSARY WE'RE GOING TO FIND 3 MILLION DOLLARS. OUT OF THIS BUDGET. WHAT'S YOUR STRATEGY ON HOW TO LOOK AT OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT YOU KNOW WE WE HAVE WORK STRATEGIC PLAN WE HAVE OUR PRIORITIES AND ALL THAT WHAT. BUT IT'S GOING TO BE UP TO YOU GUYS TO SURGICALLY GO IN THERE AND IDENTIFY THE SPECIFIC CUTS THAT ARE GOING TO MAKE UP THAT 3 MILLION DOLLARS LIKE. HOW ARE YOU APPROACHING SO. >> THIS IS VERY. THIS IS TOO SIMPLE. WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT. >> THERE ARE MANY OF THE REVENUES THAT WILL AFFECT WHAT YOUR TOTAL REVENUE NUMBER WILL BE IT'S LIKE THE OTHER EXPENSES THAT WILL IT SO THIS IS A VERY GENERIC. YOU BUT IN OUR MINDS YOU CONTROL THE HEAVY COST DRIVERS OF YOUR ORGANIZATION. YOU MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE PERSONNEL NUMBERS ARE NOT INCREASING ANY MORE THAN IT HAD >> YOU LOOK AT THE EXPENSES THAT YOU OPERATION WAS THAT. >> WHAT DO WE REALLY NEED DO REALLY NEED IT HOW MUCH YOU'RE GOING >> YOU KNOW SCRUTINIZING THOSE NUMBERS OR SCRUBBING THOSE TO MAKE SURE. >> EFFORTS NEW INITIATIVES PRIORITIES ARE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO YOU INTO THIS BUDGET. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A HARD TIME MAINTAINING BUT WE DO LITTLE INCREASING SOMETHING THAT NOT A PRIORITY. SO YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT LIKE. >> ACROSS THE BOARD YOU'RE LOOKING AT. BASICALLY KILLER BY PILLAR LOOKING AT IT STRATEGICALLY YOU KNOW RATHER THAN SAY WHAT'S JUST 3% 5% THE BOARD SO-CALLED BOARD CUTS DOESN'T REALLY GO WITH BUDGETING FOR OUTCOMES BECAUSE YOU'RE JUST TAKING SOMETHING UP LED ASK EVERY POINT. >> WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS TO ENSURE THAT. THE JOB OF OUR DEPARTMENT LEADERSHIP IS TO MAKE THE ASK. YEAH AND BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE TO DO WE GIVE AND THEN ONCE THAT WILL COME IN TO WHAT WE WILL SHOW US THIS IS WHAT DID NOT MAKE IT INTO THE BUDGET. BUT THEIR JOB AND ALWAYS ENCOURAGE THEM TELL US WHAT YOU BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THEM TO WELL YOU KNOW. YOU HAVE THE MONEY SO I'M NOT GOING TO ASK FOR THIS THAT'S NOT YOUR JOB. OUR JOB IS TO YOU KNOW WITH THE MONEY OF WHAT A KID IN WE SEE THAT THEY HAVE TO MAKE THE SO THEY'RE GOING BE ASKED AND YOU GO WITH THE THIS YEAR A LIST OF WHAT WE DIDN'T GIVE BUT AFTER WE DO THAT PROCESS OF MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT IS WHAT CAN IT STILL WON'T BE ENOUGH. WE HAVE TO GO SOME OF THE OTHER PRIORITY THAT WE'RE NOT RAIN AS HIGH AS SOME OF THE ON THE LIST THAT WE WENT OVER IT WILL START MAKING SOME THAT IMPACT THE OTHER I ONLY THAT YOU DO NOT LISTEN YOUR TOP 3 AS MOST IMPORTANT. >> SO THE STRATEGY WOULD PILLAR BIPOLAR TO LOOK AT THE LOWEST RANKING PRIORITY ITEMS AND SEE HOW MANY DOLLARS IN IN IN THE PROJECTED BUDGET CORRECT CHIP AWAY AT HER TO FOR OR WHATEVER AND ON THE FLIP SIDE, IT'S SORT OF A SECOND QUESTION, BUT IT'S THE FEE STRUCTURE STUDY. WILL THAT BE IN A TIMELY ENOUGH FASHION. SO WE CAN FACTOR THAT IN AGAINST THE 3.1 BILLION. WE'RE SURE FOCUS OBVIOUSLY LIKE YOU SAID THERE WILL BE SOME FEES THAT WE ALL PROBABLY HIGH ON MAYBE BUT THERE MAY BE MANY FEES WE ARE LOW ON AND THOSE ARE GOING TO NEED TO BE ADJUSTED PRIORITIZED. AND WE'LL HAVE CERTAINLY IMPACT ON REVENUE. SO WILL NOT BE TIMELY ENOUGH TO. >> I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT WILL IF IT IS IT WILL BE LATER IN THE PROCESS WHERE WE CAN FACTOR THAT IN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO APPROACH USE THE SAME WAY WE HAVE PAST YEARS WE PUT OUT A REQUEST OR LETTER OF INTEREST. BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO RECEIVE ONE RESPONSE WE WERE HOPING THAT WAS ANOTHER ONE THAT WAS ASKING QUESTIONS AND WORKING OUT. WE'RE HOPING LINGER SAY THAT I'M NOT SURE WE WILL ONCE WE GET THAT CAN MOVE FORWARD THAT WILL HAVE ESTIMATE OF WHAT THAT WOULD COST THEM WILL COME BACK COMMISSION. >> YES, NOT IF WE DON'T HAVE THE OFFICIAL BY THE TIME YOU ARE ASKED TO MAKE YOUR DECISION HAVE A DIFFERENT IDEA OF HOW TO PRESENT IT WITH MORE DETAILS THAT WILL ALLOW 2 HAVE A DECISION MAKING UP >> THANK YOU I HAVE A QUESTIONS SUPPLEMENT LIGHTENED. WILL THAT STUDY ALSO INCLUDE THE ACTUAL COST OF DELIVERING THAT YOU HAVE THAT SERVICE. >> WE'RE GOING COST TO ACTUALLY SERVICE WHILE THE INTENTION IS TO SHOW THAT BECAUSE WE NEED TO KNOW IT COSTS $50 TO CREATE A RECHARGE AND SO ONE OF WHICH ARE THE 20 OFF RIGHT. SO IN ORDER FOR IT TO. >> B. YOU HOPEFULLY WE NEED TO KNOW THAT INFORMATION THEN YOU ALSO TO KNOW IF YOU'RE TRYING $50 FOR AND IT TAKES YOU. $100 WHICH SOME OF THOSE THESE CANNOT BE REVENUE THE SOUTH YET TO PUT THAT INTO PLACE. IF YOU'RE 50. EVERYONE ELSE IS CHARGING 200. YOU KNOW THERE'S ALSO THE COMPATIBILITY IT'S LITTLE BIT. I DON'T WANT TO PAINT EVERYTHING WITHIN EVEN PUSH. BUT I THINK THAT THE DETAIL THAT WE HOPEFULLY GET OUT OF THIS THAT THEY WILL EITHER DEFEND. WHAT WE DO AND WE DO IS GO TO YOU WANT DO SO. >> OKAY THAT SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU MISTER IT OUT. COMMISSIONER STOKES THAT WHERE I WAS GOING WITH MY FIRST QUESTION APPRECIATE STRATEGY TO CUT. THING IS WHEN YOU WOULD MENTION CITY MANAGER THAT WE MAY HAVE TO CUT SOME OF THE PRIORITIES IN THE COLORS FOR STRATEGIC PLANNING. IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING WITH STRATEGIC PLANNING THAT THIS IS WHERE ACTUALLY BE BACKING OFF. WE WERE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER CONVERSATION WITH DOB TO DETERMINE. SO TELLER PRIORITIES WERE THEY PROGRAM WITH A PRIORITY OR WERE THEY PERPETUAL. I WAS EXPECTING THAT TO BE I'M PRIOR TO BUDGET BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WAS SAID FOR THE NEXT STEPS. THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER CONVERSATION WITH DON'T COME BACK. NO >> WHAT WE NEED THAT'S LAST TIME IT. WE WAITED IN THE COMEBACK SO WOULD YOU LIKE COME BACK WE CAN WE'VE GOT TO HAVE DO THAT. BUT YOUR GUIDANCE BUT. IF THE COMBAT FROM MY CONVERSATIONS WITH. THIS BOARD OR >> AND AND THAT'S FINE I'M JUST GOING BY WHAT MY NOSE SHOWED THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER CONVERSATION PRIOR TO BUDGET TO REALLY BE ABLE TO HELP DETERMINE THOSE PRIORITIES. WE HAD INDICATED SOME OF THE PRIORITIES THAT WERE TALKED ABOUT TODAY WERE IN FACT PRIORITIES AND OTHER THAT OTHER ONES WERE MORE PROGRAM AND OTHER ONES WERE MORE KEY INDICATORS AND SOME OF THEM WERE MORE PERPETUAL LIKE OF COURSE WE WANT THIS TO BE A SAFE COMMUNITY WHY WOULD THAT IT'S A PRIORITY BUT IT'S A PERPETUAL PRIORITY. IT'S NOT ACTION PRIORITY. SO THAT'S WHY I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION. HE WAS COMING BACK AND THAT'S WHAT SHOW IT IS WHAT IT DO, BUT I DO HAVE A RECOLLECTION THAT AND I THINK WE HAD A STIR PREVIOUS WHAT'S THE TITLE. >> OKAY JUST TO INTO THAT MEANS SUPPLEMENT THOSE ANALYST MY RECOLLECTION IS THAT SHE WAS GOING TO COME BACK WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS MIGHT MY PARTICULAR THING WAS SOME OF THE THINGS WE HAD HIS PRIORITIES WERE REALLY MEASUREMENTS THAT AND WE WERE GOING TO CLEAN THAT UP SO THAT'S THAT'S IT I'M NOT SURE JUMP IN BUT ONLY BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT WOULD. MAKE IT DIFFICULT. >> OR OR OR. FOR FAN. >> STAFF'S ABILITY TO LOOK AT THE PRIORITIES. IT WOULD BUY PILLAR AND IDENTIFY THOSE LOWER PRIORITY, THEIS AREAS THAT SAVINGS COULD BE FELT YOU KNOW FROM A BUDGET STANDPOINT YEAH THAT RIGHT I THAT WE SHOULD DISCUSS IT AT SOME POINT BUT I THINK FOR BUDGET PURPOSES YOU CAN STILL ATTACK THAT 3 MILLION DOLLAR NOVEMBER. >> WITHOUT THE NEED TO DO THAT FIRST BECAUSE YES WOULDN'T KNOW WHERE THE HIGH AND PRIORITIES RANK ON ON THE PILLARS. >> YOU THE BOARD WANT THAT THE COMEBACK WHICH IS GREAT IT WON'T. THE LABOR OR IF YOU WOULD WHAT WE DO ANY WAY IN IF AND WHEN YOU WANT THAT TO HAPPEN WILL MAKE SURE >> OUR EFFORTS GOING WITH WHATEVER COMES OUT OF YOUR OBSESSION WITH SHE TALKED. >> WE HAVE NOT APPROVED THE STRATEGIC PLAN THAT WE WERE WORKING IT'S NOT FINALIZED UM AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO WAS HAVING FINALIZED STRATEGIC PLAN. AND I DON'T I DON'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS DUMPED THAT WAS COMING BACK. MY RECOLLECTION WAS DUBBED, BUT NOW THAT YOU MENTION SHE SAID SHE WOULD COME BACK, I THINK MAYBE IT WAS A COMBINATION OF THE 2 THAT I I DON'T KNOW, BUT. OUR STRATEGIC PLAN. IT IS NOT. IT'S FROM 22 TO 25. THIS STRATEGIC PLAN AND NOT THIS POINT. AND AND I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO BE FINALIZING COULDN'T BE DETERMINED. PRIORITIES CAN OKAY TO THOSE PROGRAMS AND PENDANT WOODLE THAT ALL BUT. I I'M NOT TRYING TO BUT THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE IT WAS PART OF WHAT THE PRESENTATION WAS AND KIND OF GOES ALONG WITH HOW ARE WE GOING TO CUT THINGS TO REACH THAT MAGIC 3 MILLION MARK. SO THANK YOU. >> EVEN THOUGH THE PLANNING OF THE WINDOW OF TIME ON IT I WOULDN'T CALL BECAUSE YOU TALK ABOUT THE LAST TO PUT YEAR YOU MET AS A BOARD TO TALK ABOUT WHAT I GOT THAT THE BOARD TALK ABOUT IT WITH COMMISSIONERS DO GOT HERE SO IT'S IS ACCURATE IS GOING GET RELATED TO YOU OR BOTH RECENT BOARD COMPOSITION CONVERSATIONS. NOW IT NEEDS TO YOU KNOW WHEN YOU DO YOUR NEXT ONE IF YOU NEED TO GO OUT THE NEXT 5 YEARS THAT'S FINE BUT IT'S ANNUAL PLAY THAT YOU'VE DISCUSSED IT WITH BUT IT YOU WANT THAT THE COMBAT THAT'S GOAL. THEY LIKE US THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING BUT IF WE NEED TO SO WRAPPED UP WITH BOW ON IT HAPPY TO DO SO. >> OKAY DO YOU DIRECTION FROM AN GARAGE AND IT'S WORKSHOP. LET ME GET IT IN GENERAL. WHAT WE THAT OKAY. ALL RIGHT AND THEN I HAVE QUESTION ABOUT THAT 3 MILLION DOLLARS THAT. VICE MAYOR IS TALKING ABOUT NEW SLIDES SAID THAT WE HAVE A RESERVE WHICH ISN'T. IT YOU CAN TAKE FROM IT IT'S OK, YOU CAN'T TOUCH THIS THAT CAN'T TOUCH BUT. >> YOU WE KEPT SO THAT A POSSIBILITY MORE IS THAT REALLY NOT. >> RECOMMENDED TO TAKE FROM YOUR RESERVE. YES, AND THAT THERE THE YEAR THAT WE BALANCE OUR BUDGET WITHOUT USING ANY OF THAT IS ARE WHICH IS VERY ATYPICAL. >> IT MAY NOT ONE OF THAT WAY YEAR. BUT THANKS FOR BRINGING THAT UP BECAUSE I THINK THAT WITH A GREAT LACK OF APPRECIATION OF HOW WE BALANCE THE BUDGET WITHOUT TOUCHING THAT POT OF MONEY. >> THEY HAVE THE TEXT ABOUT MONEY. WE'VE GOT TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM BEFORE YOU TOUCH THAT THAT'S LAST RESORT NOT YOUR FIRST RIGHT IF IT WASN'T ON THERE BECAUSE WE DO CONSIDER THAT >> IF WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE CUTTING THINGS THAT YOU DON'T AGREE WITH. OR WE COULDN'T THING THAT WE FEEL LIKE OKAY ARE GOING TO AFFECT OUR QUALITY OF SERVICE OR OUR ABILITY TO SERVE THAT'S AN OPTION AND THAT'S THE I WOULD NOT. >> AT THE SAME THOUGH IF YOU LOOK AT THAT. CHART. WELL IT SHOWS. THE EXCESS OVER THE 20% SO WILL I DON'T KNOW WHAT NEED A SAKE. IF YOU GET THEM ALL AGAINST EACH OTHER WITH THE DEFICIT THAT ROAD AND DRAINAGE CHEST AND BASICALLY THERE IS NO MONEY LEFT OVER THEIR RECENT DIFFERENT BUCKETS RIGHT, BUT THE NET EFFECT OF IS SIRO SO BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT IS ARE 20% MANDATORY REACH SERVICE IS WHAT WE'VE GOT SO I WILL HAVE GREAT RESERVATION ABOUT DIPPING INTO THAT FUND. I DON'T ANY OF THE OTHER POCKETS THAT MAY SHOW EXCESS BECAUSE THE ROAD AND DRAINAGE SO OUTRAGEOUSLY NEGATIVE THAT YOU KNOW IN TILL THAT'S MADE I WOULD HAVE SOME CONCERNS AND I KNOW YOU CAN'T SWAP A LOT OF STUFF BACK AND FORTH AMONG POCKETS, BUT YOU KNOW YOU CAN'T PUT FOR THE GENERAL FUND I WOULD BE HESITANT GET BUTTONS ARE INDEPENDENT OF EACH OTHER CORRECT AND SO WHILE THE VOTING GRANT FUND THE PLAN WORKED ITSELF OUT WASN'T I MEAN YOUR PLAN THAT WE HAD PLACE PUT TO WILL. >> SO BASED ON THAT THAT BOOK THAT SHOULD WORK IT'S ABOUT I WOULDN'T. WE WOULD NOT ALLOW THAT TO DISCOURAGE US IF WE GOT TO THE POINT OF NEED OF THE BUCKET BECAUSE IT'S JUST GETTING THAT POINT WE NEEDED AND THEY WERE TELLING YOU WE HAVE OPTION BUT TO YOU. HE SAYS A OF THE GAP. >> THE ROAD AND DRAINAGE FUN IS ANTICIPATING A LITTLE OVER 13 MILLION IN FEMA IN THIS CURRENT YEAR. BUT JUST BUT WE BUDGETED LAST YEAR SO WHEN THOSE EXPENSES ROLLED OVER BECAME FUND ABOUT. SO WHEN YOU REMEMBER THEY WERE ABOUT 15 MILLION IN THE NEGATIVE THAT 13 APARTMENT ABOUT 5% PRETTY CLOSE OKAY, AND THAT'S IF THEY SPEND EVERY OTHER DOLLAR AND ONLY GET EVERY SO WE'RE OPEN. >> A LITTLE MORE BALANCING OUT FOR PRESUMING THAT AND THE NEXT GREAT FISCAL YEAR WE ACTUALLY SEE THAT MONEY FEMA, IT COULD BE 5 YEARS BEFORE WE SEE IT TO OR CORRECT THAT WE WE SAW A LOT LAST YEAR DO I APPRECIATE RAISE THE ISSUE BECAUSE IT'S NOT A BUDGET THAT WANT TO GO TO BEFORE WE'VE LITERALLY TAKEN A SEARCH OF GOLD KNIFE TO THE BUDGET. >> IT TO FIND OUT 3 MILLION AND I WOULD NOT SAY THIS HAS BEEN DONE IN THE PAST YEAR AS PEOPLE BUT I HAVE SEEN PEOPLE USE IT PREMATURELY YES WITHOUT SORT OF GOING THROUGH THE EXERCISE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT A THEY CAN BE USED AS AN EASY WAY OUT ESPECIALLY IF REALLY DON'T WANT TO. SACRIFICED HIRING PEOPLE YOU REALLY DON'T WANT TO SACRIFICE. YOU KNOW, GOING QUESTION US WE'RE READY TO CIRCLE BACK TO THE EFFECT OF MILLAGE QUESTION OF >> AND TO BE ANY MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT. MOST LINES. COMMISSIONER THOW. >> I HAVE A NEW QUESTION BUT IF YOU WANT TO CIRCLE BACK TO TIME THEY GET THAT CLEARED OUT THERE OFF EVENT NEXT >> I THIS IS GOING TO PLAY LIKE THAT SLIDE UP. >> BECAUSE YOU MAY NOT ALL HAVE FRONT OF MIGHT BE EASIER FOR ME TO EXPLAIN. IF WE'RE ALL LOOKING AT. BUT JUST GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE SO FOR WE'RE LOOKING AT THE FAR RIGHT 3 EFFECTIVE MOINES WRITES SO THE FIRST ONE THE COUNTY MILLAGE OTHER SARASOTA COUNTY THAT WOULD BE IF YOU LIVE IN VENICE THAT'S THE RATE THAT YOU PAY TO SARASOTA COUNTY ON NORTH AND THAT'S WHAT IS IF YOU LIVE IN CITY OF SARASOTA THAT'S THE RIGHT YOU PAY TO THE COUNTY. THE FAR-RIGHT ONE IF YOU LIVE IN UNINCORPORATED YOU'RE NOT IN ONE OF THOSE CITIES BUT YOU'RE IN SARASOTA COUNTY. THAT'S THE RATE THAT YOU PAY TO SARASOTA COUNTY. >> QUESTION IS OR 6.1 1, 5, DOES THAT INCLUDE WHAT WE PAY TO THE COUNTY TO >> SO ADDITION TO THE EFFECT OF MILLAGE RATE OF 6.3 WE PAY PROBABLY ANOTHER 3 PLUS PERCENT TO THE COUNTY. >> FIRST SOME SORT OF SERVICE THAT. >> COMPARING COUNTIES AND MUNICIPALITIES DIFFICULT SHOW DIFFICULT AND I JUST WANTED EVERYBODY TO REALIZE THAT THAT EFFECTIVE RATE STILL SHORT 3 POINT PLUS FOR THINGS TAXES WE PAY. IT'S A CITY TO THE COUNTY FOR SERVICES SERVICES CORRECT SOME >> YEAH I THINK THAT YOU HAVE A VALID POINT THERE BECAUSE PEOPLE TALK FURTHER TAX BILL EVERYTHING IS ON THERE INCLUDING AND ALL THAT AND I SAID JUST LOOK AT THE CITY OF PORT. THAT'S WHAT WE CAN CONTROL HERE SO I'M YES FOR CLARITY YEAH. >> SO WHEN YOU SAID THE 3.3 4, 5, 2, THAT'S WHAT IS PAID. >> FRANK IF YOU LIVE IN THE CITY OF BENNETT'S APOLOGIZE THAT WAS AN EXAMPLE OR NORTH PORT THANK YOU, YES, WANTED SEE WHERE DID WE THINK IN THOSE 3 YES, OKAY. >> SO ITS VENICE AND NORTH PORT AND THEN THE NEXT KILLER IS JUST THE CITY OF SARASOTA AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS UNINCORPORATED SARASOTA COUNTY AND WE'RE LEAVING THE TOWN OF LONGBOAT KEY COMPLETELY OFF OF THAT BECAUSE IT'S 2 COUNTS. I WOULD ASSUME. >> SO WE HAVE THAT OVER TO THE FAR LEFT THAT IS THERE. >> OF THE 3.3 4 IS VENICE NORTH PORT AND ONE BOAT. SO IT'S ALL THE OTHER INCORPORATED CITIES EXCEPT FOR THE CITY OF SARASOTA CORRECT. THANK YOU FOR THAT PLAYER. OKAY. YOU KNOW THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE COULD HAVE THAT OKAY A MACAU. MY NEXT SET OF QUESTIONS HAVE TO DO WITH THIS SALARY. BECAUSE. IN THE PAST WE'VE DONE THE 3.5 GROWTH THAT'S MERIT. CORRECT. BUT THEN WE'VE DONE AND ADDED 2 AND A HALF PERCENT WHICH WAS A COMBINATION OF CPI AND MINIMUM WAGE. IT WAS A CPI IN THE MINIMUM WAGE AS PART OF THAT 2 AND A HALF PERCENT. BECAUSE CPI IS CONSIDERABLY DIFFERENT THAN IT WAS A YEAR AGO, ALTHOUGH MAJORITY OF PEOPLE'S POCKETBOOKS DON'T SHOW THAT. USING THE NATIONAL AVERAGE OF OF CPI HAS BASICALLY CUT IN HALF. AND I'M JUST GOING BY NATIONAL AND I KNOW CPI CAN BE REGIONALLY TOO. I WOULD REALLY BE INTERESTED IN SEEING FLOW CHART OF DATA FOR CPI FOR OUR REGION. BECAUSE WE MAY NOT HAVE TO DO CPI AS HIGH AS WHAT WE'VE DONE IT IN THE PAST, I MEAN WORK NATIONALLY IT'S 3.1. NOW USING THIS SAME MONTH COMPARISON OF MONTH OF FEBRUARY. 6 WAS LAST YEAR 6% WAS LAST YEAR AT THIS TIME. ALMOST 8% OF THE YEAR BEFORE. SO I'M I'M WONDERING IF AND THIS ALL HAVE TO BE A CONVERSATION BECAUSE I WANT TO SEE THE REGIONAL CPI. >> THAT WOULD BE 3.9 AS OF JANUARY 24 REGIONAL SAINT PETE CLEARWATER PAY 3.9 >> WE RAISE IT UP IF PEOPLE WHAT WAS IT IN >> 2023 BECAUSE I KNOW THAT IT HAD TO BE CLOSER THAN TO 7 OR 8. AND WE WE STILL DID THE 2 AND A HALF. >> I LIKE IS GOING THAT. >> REMEMBER IT'S SPLIT INTO 2 THINGS ONE AND A HALF US A CALL CORRECT IN THE ONE PERCENT IS THE INCREASE OR MINIMUM 5 YEARS, CORRECT SO ANYTHING I BELIEVE THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN ANYTHING OVER ONE AND A HALF AND THAT CPI FOR THIS AND THE SAINT PETE CLEARWATER. WE'LL GET A ONE AND A HALF PERCENT INCREASE FOR THAT THE COLA. IF I NOTED. >> YET LAST YEAR A LOT MORE 6 OR 7. I DON'T LIKE I SAID I WAS USING NATIONAL AND THAT'S WHY I'M REQUESTING IF WE COULD POSSIBLY GET A COMPARISON REGIONALLY FOR THE PAST YOU TO SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND YES, I STATED IT WAS ONE AND A HALF WHOLE AND THEN ONE PERCENT FOR MINIMUM WAGE. >> MINIMUM WAGE SHOULD BE DONE OCTOBER OF 20 IVOR 26. I THINK I THINK WE'RE DONE SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT WERE DONE THIS YEAR OR WERE DONE NEXT YEAR. SO WE JUST NEED TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT. >> NO IT'S NOT 25. I BELIEVE IS 26. I OK. >> FOR CLARITY BECAUSE I HAD TAKEN THEM DIFFERENT NUMBERS. >> 1.5 IS FOR RAISING THE MINIMUM ZARA 1.0 FOR RAISING THEM IN LIVES. ONE COMPANIES ARE AND THAT. >> LIMITATION OF THE 1.5 WAS JUST ON A PROJECT. IT'S WE'VE YOU KNOW LIMITED TO THAT UP TO THE CPI. BUT THAT'S NOT THAT'S JUST A SO THAT'S A CAP. >> BUT I THINK WE SHOULD START FALL OF THE REGIONAL MODELS SO. SOMETHING >> WE FOLLOW THE REGIONAL MODEL THAT 3 MILLION DOLLARS AND HE'S GOING TO BE EVEN HIGHER. IF WE WERE GOING TO DO THAT WE SHOULD HAVE PROBABLY DONE IT LAST YEAR WHEN THE CPI WAS TWICE THE SIZE WHAT IT IS NOT. >> NOTHING WE CAN >> IT'S ALL A QUESTION I HAD >> THANK YOU I'M LOOKING AT THE GENERAL FUND CHANGES BETWEEN 2425 INFLATIONARY LAST YEAR WE HAD. ABOUT 571. ISN'T. >> AND NOW IT'S TRIPLE LOST THAT. >> THIS REALLY JUMPED THAT MUCH THIS WE CATCHING UP THAT JUST SEEMS LIKE A REALLY BIG JUMP. >> USE FACTOR TO INCREASE OUR EXPENSES FROM WANT YOU REX. I SHOULD GIVE IT HER. >> MAN I JUST DON'T I DON'T THINK INFLATION IS ANY WORSE THIS YEAR THAN WAS LAST YEAR YEAR BEFORE IT'S BEEN PRETTY PAINFUL. >> SINCE COVID. >> SINCE WE'RE SO PRELIMINARY WHAT WE DON'T WE COULDN'T THERE'S 3% OF OPERATING COSTS. >> WHAT DID WE DO LAST YEAR. I BELIEVE IT WAS ALSO 3% BUT I WOULD YOU WE WOULD LIKE COME FIRST. OK THANK YOU APPRECIATE THAT. JUST SEEMS LIKE A VERY BIG JUMP. AND ONE YEAR. >> IT WAS JUST WE WANTED TO PUT SOMETHING IN THERE BUT HAVE NO WAY LIKE THAT AT THIS POINT PUT A PLACE HOLDER. COMMISSIONER ANYTHING LONG AS I'M GOOD RIGHT WITH THAT. VICE MAYOR. >> YEAH IT'S KIND OF PLAYED FIRST JUST A QUICK QUESTION. WE ACTUALLY ON THE SRQ. THEY CAN ASK FOR MONEY TO GO TO THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS. DID. I COULD IMPROVE. BECAUSE I THAT WAS OFF THE TABLE. >> WE DIDN'T QUALIFY FOR THAT I JUST WANT GET BACK IS OUR GRANT AND OF THEM BE A WHAT THAT. IT'S THE VISION NOT. THAT'S WHAT I'M SORRY THAT THAT WE DID NOT SUBMIT THEM. A REASON WHY BECAUSE HER ARE CARE OF IT. >> THAT WE CAN'T CHANGE. MAKE A PIE WITH THE FEDERAL CAN >> THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT OK I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE SO MY QUESTION ACTUALLY FOR THE BUDGET IS. ANTICIPATING THAT WE WILL GET SOME AMOUNT OF MONEY FROM THE SRQ FOR INFRASTRUCTURE FOR BRIDGES FOR FOR STRUCTURES, WHATEVER. IT'S A CONTEMPLATED. IN THE IN THE BUDGET YOU'RE GOING TO PROPOSE. WILL THERE BE. GENERAL FUND OPERATING EXPENSES COSTS. UTILIZATION OF THOSE SPOTS DO NOT COME MUCH THEY ARE BUT WE'RE BUILDING SAY REDOING A WATER STRUCTURE YEAR AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY WITH SRQ MONEY TO DO 3. WILL THAT IN ANY WAY IMPACT. OUR OPERATING BUDGET GOING FORWARD. LIKE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S OUR CUE MONEY CAN ONLY GO FOR CERTAIN THINGS OR IF IT CAN PAY FOR EXTRA LABOR EXTRA THIRD-PARTY CONTRACTORS THAT SORT OF STUFF TO FACILITATE DOING A COUPLE EXTRA WATER STRUCTURES WHERE WILL WE SEE BUDGET AMENDMENTS DURING THE YEAR THAT SAYS WELL WE'VE GOT THIS POT OF MONEY WE CAN SPEND THAT WITHOUT BRINGING OTHER RESOURCES TO BEAR TO GET THESE WATER STRUCTURES BILL SO IT'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER HALF A 1 MILLION 1 1 MILLION 1 MILLION AND A HALF I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT AND SAT OUT PART OF THE BUDGET CONSIDERATION. I DON'T I DON'T FORESEE >> CHANGING OUR BUDGET CONSIDERATION FOR RUPTURED YOU SHOULD BE VOLUME THAT WE HAVE TO DO. NOW IT WOULD CHANGE IF. OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR HAS ALWAYS SAID TO ME TO BE DONE SO BASED ON THE LABOR OR THE THEN THERE'S THAT ACTUALLY DO THE WORK. SO THERE'S A CAT THERE ON HOW THEY CAN DO THAT WE HAVE NOT HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT CHANGING OUR BECAUSE YES OUR Q A IT'S REALLY HELPING OUT LOOK PROBLEM INTO ACCELERATED BY 2 OR 3 OR 4 ORDER CONTROL STRUCTURES BASED ON THE TREMENDOUS NEED THAT WE HAVE WHICH IS. MULTIPLY THAT BY A FACTOR FOR 6. YOU TRULY GOING TO NEED SOME. A HUGE. INFLICTION OF. FIGHT CAPITAL OF BONDING DOLLARS IN ORDER TO MOVE NEEDLE WORKING TOWARD FRACTURES ALASKA COULD TAKE. I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND CHANGING APPROACH. >> I GOT TO SO EVEN IF WE GET SOME OF THAT MONEY WE MAY NOT BE ABLE SPEND A TIMELY FASHION UP THE RESOURCES RIGHT WE'VE BEEN TOP OF WHAT WE'RE GOING DO INTERNALLY PEOPLE LIVING ON DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. >> ADAM AIR BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER I AM CHANNELING COMMISSIONER AND I'M REQUESTING A BREAK WITH AN AD NOW AND HE'S A LITTLE HE'S IN THE ROOM CHANNELING ♪ >> ALL I KNOW THAT WILL 1046. >> I HE'S DONE THE RIGHT CLASS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT MORE DOING THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU ATION IS EVERY SWIM LEVEL HAS WHAT'S CALLED EXIT SKILL ASSESSMENTS. SO WHAT WE DO IS WE HAVE YOUR CHILD GET IN THE WATER AND WILL GO THROUGH A SERIES OF DIFFERENT MOVEMENTS CAN YOU GO INTO THE WATER I CAN YOU SHOW US YOUR PHONE CALL CAN YOU SHOW US BACK ALL SHOWS ELEMENTARY BACK DIFFERENT STROKES WITHIN AND WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE TRYING TO SEE. ♪ YOUR CHILD TEST TO BEFORE IT BECOMES A CHALLENGE FOR AT THAT POINT ONCE WE ASSESS THAT THAT WILL LET YOU KNOW AND YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND SIGN YOUR CHILD UP FOR THAT APPROPRIATE LEVEL THERE. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THESE SO THAT WAY WHEN WE'RE TEACHING A LEVEL ONE WE DON'T HAVE KIDS THAT SHOULD POTENTIALLY A LEVEL 2 AND LEVEL ONE CLASS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT LEARNING THE APPROPRIATE SKILLS THAT THEY NEEDED THAT POINT IN TIME RIGHT NOW WHEN WE'RE IN FULL SUMMER WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE COME BETWEEN 8.10 DEDUCE FROM A VALUATION JUST AS YOU CAN HEAR THE WATER SPLASHING IN THE BACKGROUND SLIDE. EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT ANY DAY OF THE THAT OPEN YOU CAN COME IN AT ANY POINT IN TIME ENOUGH FOR SOME EVALUATIONS WE ALWAYS HAVE A ♪ CERTIFIED SO MUCH DOCTOR ON SITE THAT CAN I HAVE YOUR CHILD TAKE A SWIM ASSESSMENT. >> I'M STACEY LA SALLE AND THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY OF NORTH PORT AND I'M GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT HAVING AN EVACUATION PLAN IT'S A POINT HAVE AN EVACUATION PLAN AHEAD OF TIME AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO WRITE IT DOWN BECAUSE THAT WAY YOU HAVE IT SOMEWHERE PRESENT FOR EVERYBODY IN YOUR FAMILY CAN SEE IT AND KEEP IT FRESH IN THEIR MINDS AND YOU WANT TO ALSO SHARE IT WITH PEOPLE IN YOUR FAMILY OR YOUR NEIGHBORS SO THAT THEY KNOW WHAT YOUR PLANS ARE AHEAD OF TIME AND HOW TO GET A HOLD OF YOUR WAY TO LOOK FOR YOU AFTER A DISASTER FOR YOUR EVACUATION YOU SHOULD HAVE MULTIPLE ROUTES TO GET TO LOCATION. YOU'RE PLANNING TO GO TO JUST BECAUSE TRAFFIC WAS TRAFFIC ON 75 MIGHT BE GRIDLOCKED THERE COULD BE SOME VERY GOOD BACK ROADS TO GET TO WHERE YOU'RE GOING THAT COULD GET YOU THERE MORE QUICKLY WITHOUT BEING STUCK IN TRAFFIC WHEN YOU'RE MAKING EVACUATION PLAN. WE USUALLY TELL YOU 4 DIFFERENT THINGS YOU SHOULD STAY HOME IF YOU ARE NOT IN HIS OWN THAT'S BEING EVACUATED AND IF YOUR HOME IS BUILT TO WITHSTAND THE FORECASTED STORM IF YOU CAN STAY HOME. AND YOU EVACUATE YOUR NEXT OPTION SHOULD BE TO GO TO A FRIEND OUR FAMILY'S HOME THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THE EVACUATION AREA AND IT IS STRUCTURALLY SOUND TO US AND THE STORM OPTION WOULD BE GO TO A HOTEL. THEY'RE MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE THAN I BACK AWAY SHUNS CENTER'S 4TH OPTION WOULD BE TO GO TO ONE OF OUR EVACUATION CENTER SARASOTA COUNTY HAS FALLEN BACK AWAY SHUNS CENTER'S. THOSE CAN BE FOUND ON THEIR WEBSITE. >> WHY DO WE FLOOD. DURING SIGNIFICANT RAIN EVENTS PORT NEARLY ALWAYS FLOODS IN CERTAIN AREAS OF THE CITY. THIS IS THANKS TO THE LOCALLY NAMED MYAKKA HATCHEE CREEK ALSO KNOWN AS THE BIG SLEW WATERSHED. >> THE 195 SQUARE MILE DRAINAGE AREA FLOWS THROUGH DESOTO MANATEE AND SARASOTA COUNTIES THEN THROUGH OUR CITY TO EXIT AT CHARLOTTE HARBOR. AS THE CITY OF NORTH PORT IS LOCATED AT THE LOW END OF THE BIG SLEW WATERSHED DRAINAGE SYSTEM. THE CITY'S CURRENT FLOODING AND WATER QUALITY CONDITIONS ARE ATTRIBUTED NOT ONLY TO THE CITY'S GROWTH BUT ALSO TO UPSTREAM RUNOFF IN THE DESOTO MANATEE AND SARASOTA COUNTY PORTIONS OF THE BIG SLOW. DURING SIGNIFICANT RAIN EVENTS PONDING CAN ALSO OCCUR PONDING OCCURS AND LOW-LYING AREAS THAT ARE CHARACTERIZED BY POORLY DRAINED OR SUPER SATURATED SOILS WITH BACK-TO-BACK RAINFALL EVENTS THE GROUND IS TOTALLY SATURATED WHICH INCREASES THE RUNOFF DURING A STORM. THE CITY WORKS HARD TO MAINTAIN ITS STORMWATER CONVEYANCE SYSTEM WHICH IS COMPRISED OF ROADSIDE SWALES DRAINING INTO 79 MILES OF NAMED WATERWAYS. >> AND 132 MILES OF RETENTION DITCHES THAT INTERCONNECT WITH EACH OTHER AND WITH THE MYAKKA HATCHEE CREEK. THERE ARE 64 WATER CONTROL STRUCTURES OF WHICH 23 ARE GATED WATER CONTROL STRUCTURES 5 ARE GATED DROP STRUCTURES, 28 ARE FIXED. WE'RE STRUCTURES AND 8 ARE DROPPED STRUCTURES. THE CONTROL ELEVATIONS OF THESE STRUCTURES ARE DESIGNED SO THAT WATER IS RETAINED IN THE WATERWAYS AND A STEP-DOWN ELEVATION SYSTEM CONFIGURATION. >> THIS MEANS THE WATER LEVELS IN THE WATERWAY SEGMENTS BETWEEN STRUCTURES PROGRESSIVELY DECREASES IN ELEVATION FROM NORTH TO SOUTH AND FROM EAST TO WEST. THIS SYSTEM CONFIGURATION ALLOWS BOTH RETENTION OF STORM WATER RUNOFF FOR WATER QUALITY TREATMENT AND STORAGE FOR POTABLE WATER USE IN PREPARATION FOR A STORM, THE GATES ARE OPENED AS NEEDED TO CONVEY A FLOOD WATERS. >> THE CITY HAS AN ONGOING PROGRAM TO INSPECT AND REPLACE OLD CORRODED STRUCTURES SINCE 2006 13 OF THE HIGH PRIORITIES STRUCTURES HAVE BEEN REPLACED OR REHABILITATED THE CITY ALSO HAS A PROGRAM TO CLEAR THE DITCHES OF SEDIMENT DEPOSITS THAT HAVE ACCUMULATED OVER TIME AND CLEAR FALLEN TREES AND DEBRIS IN THE MYAKKA HATCHEE CREEK. THIS ALSO HELPS RESTORE THE FLOW CAPACITY OF THE WATERWAYS. >> MY STORY SHORT PORT IS PRONE TO FLOODING, BUT THE CITY WORKS HARD TO MAINTAIN CAN VANCE CHANNELS WATER CONTROL STRUCTURES AND PROCEDURES PUT IN PLACE TO LESSEN THE IMPACT. WHEN THERE IS A HURRICANE OR SIGNIFICANT RAIN EVENT. THE CITY GETS INTO RESPONSE IN RECOVERY MODE QUICKLY AFTER PLEASE STAY SAFE OUT THERE. >> OH MY GOSH. ♪ >> OKAY, IT IS A 10 ACTUALLY 1047. SHE HAD EXTRA MINUTE THERE. SO WE'RE GOING IN FACT OR WORKSHOP EATING ABOUT BUDGET AND I THINK WE'RE STARTING AROUND AGAIN. COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. SO IT'S KIND OF. >> PIGGYBACKING OFF OF VICE INQUIRY ABOUT SRQ RESILIENT. IS IT POSSIBLE A COPY OF WHICH SUBMITTED TO THE COUNTY. THAT DOCUMENTATION OF WHAT WAS SUBMITTED TO THE COUNTY JUST SO WE HAVE IT FOR. THAT'S TO BE ABLE TO SEE YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT WE DON'T. I KNOW WE GAVE A LIST OF IT WHAT WE WANTED IT INCLUDED LIKE JUST SEE WHAT YOU GUYS CAME UP WITH BASED ON THAT LIST AND WHAT WAS SUBMITTED. AS FAR AS THE APPLICATION FOR HELPING THE RESIDENTS. I BELIEVE THOSE APPLICATIONS START MARCH 20TH STUFF I READ THAT CORRECTLY. THAT I IT JUST WAS A COMMENT TO WHAT VICE MAYOR WAS TALKING ABOUT WITH THE SRQ RESULT. >> 2 >> THINGS COMING YOUR WAY AT NUMBER ONES AND THAT WHICH YOU BY OF THE APPLICATIONS THAT WE'VE SUBMITTED THE SUMMARY AND THEN I'M ALSO. >> THESE ARE ALL COMING TO YOU >> APRIL THIS IS THE 23RD SECOND MEETING. I COMMISSION MEETING SO YOU HAVE ALL THE APPLICATIONS YOU'LL SEE EVERYTHING. THANK YOU FOR THAT WE DO HAVE THE CIP NUMBERS IF. SORRY CPI NUMBERS WHEN YOU'RE READY. CPI NUMBERS FOR REGENERON. CORRECT. ♪ ♪ FOR AS WE MENTIONED BEFORE JANUARY 24 3.9. 23 WAS JANUARY 20 2 WAS 9.6 AND JANUARY 21 3.4. WILL FOLLOW. YEAH, I JUST WAS PIGGYBACKING OH THAT'S HIM I DON'T KNOW IF. >> YOU WANT ME TO ASK NEW QUESTION OR IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS AND OTHER QUESTIONS BUT AS OUR RESILIENT. >> ANYBODY ELSE WHAT ELSE ARE >> DELEGATES AND YOUR QUESTION THAT I DO HAVE A NEW QUESTION >> SO CITY MANAGER HELP UNDERSTAND. WHAT IS YOUR LOW NEW EMPLOYEE REQUESTS. LAST YEAR. WE HAD. I WANT TO SAY 6, POLICE OFFICERS. A GOOD NUMBER ON THOSE THAT WE HAD. WAS ALSO INCLUDED IN THAT NUMBER. >> SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS COUNT TOWARDS YOUR TO NUMBER EMPLOYEES WHICH CAME OUT TO 7. WE WILL HAVE ASK FOR POLICE AGAIN THIS YEAR. WITHOUT FIRE I WANT TO BE SURE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A MASK. WE'RE THIS YEAR. WE'RE NOT HAVING OR MOVE SPRINGS. AND THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES NOT CLEAN THOSE CATEGORIES. WE LOWER THAN 7. SO TO ME THAT AS WELL. >> I THINK LONG AS LINES I I ASKED QUESTION I DON'T ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO WEIGH IN ON ACCOUNT TO SPONSOR. COMMISSIONER LANGDON. YEAH I I THINK THIS SCREEN NEEDS TO BE CLEARED. I THINK IT'S NOT DO. BUT FROM LAST TIME I DON'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT. BUT THAT HAD VICE MAYOR. LOOK AT. >> WHAT WE AS CITY. >> DO WE HAVE ANY ABILITY TO LOOK QUESTION REFER TO THE EFFECTIVE MILLET RATE 6 POINT ONE OR WHATEVER WAS AND IN ADDITION OR TAXPAYERS PAY AND ADDITIONAL 3% PLUS TO THE COUNTY. FOR A VARIETY A LAUNDRY LIST OF SERVICES. I KNOW THERE'S A WHOLE PROCESS INVOLVED BUT. JUDGING ON THE BOAT. THE LEVEL AND QUALITY OF SERVICE THIS WEEKEND FROM THE COUNTY. IS THERE ANY OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THOSE THINGS ASSESS WHETHER OR NOT THERE ARE SOME THINGS WE MIGHT TO BETTER OURSELVES AND WHAT IS INVOLVED IN SAYING OVERPAYING X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS PER TAXPAYER OR PERCENT PER TAXPAYER TO THE COUNTY THAT WE CAN DO OURSELVES OR DO WITHOUT TO SAVE OUR CITIZENS MONEY. I MEAN WE PAY 3% TO THE COUNTY I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT WHAT WHAT WERE KNOW WE PAY A BUNCH TO THE SCHOOL BOARD AND OBVIOUSLY SCHOOLS ARE IMPORTANT. BUT I'M JUST WONDERING IS THAT EVEN SOMETHING WITHIN OUR SPHERE OF INFLUENCE AT THIS POINT. THERE'S JUST NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT. >> I THINK ANSWER BUT I A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY SHE DIDN'T KNOW ARE YOU SAYING NO. >> AND WOULDN'T BE AN OPTION IF WE JUST SAID, HEY MEAN WE NO LONGER WANT YOU TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE I WANT TO LOWER NOW THAT'S. ACTUALLY WHAT THEY WE HAVE TO PAY IT. >> I THINK THINK BE THE DEEPER ANSWER TO KNOW, BUT IS THERE MAY BE A WAY TO FIND OUT. WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU GETTING WHAT YOU'RE PAYING AND SEEING WHAT IF THAT'S LINE IT WITH THE AMOUNT THAT YOU'RE PAYING YEAH, I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT. IF YOU THAT QUESTION A LOT OF THIS HAS BEEN THE RIGHT WAY IS TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE OR SO I THINK THAT THE COUNTY WILL SAY YOU KNOW AGAIN AND THEN EVEN WHEN THEY GIVE YOU SAID WHAT YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WE ALL THINK ABOUT SOME OF THE ECONOMIES OF SCALE OF WHAT THEY DO WITH THE SIZE OF WHAT THEY DO AND HOW WE GET PACKED PORTION OF IT BECAUSE IT WOULD BE SIMILAR TO. I'M SOMEONE WHO WANT TO PARK SEEING WELL YOU'RE YOU'RE RAISING MY TAXES FOR ROADS ARE OF YEAR WE SHOULD HAVE TO THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS YOU KNOW IF THE ROAD ANYWHERE IN OUR CITY. KNOW THE CONTRIBUTION TO THE CAUSE IS THE CONTRIBUTION. GET TO SORT OF PICK AND CHOOSE YOU KNOW YOU KNOW SAY, BUT I'M NOT AND PAY MY TAXES TO SCHOOL THAT I DON'T HAVE ANY CHILDREN SCHOOLS, THE BILL THAT YOU DON'T DO I WANT I KNOW AND WE'VE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF THIS CONVERSATION LIKE. >> YOU KNOW WE ALL CONTRIBUTE TO A LARGER AND WE DO I MEAN WHILE I MAY NOT HAVE CHILDREN DOESN'T MEAN I SHOULD PAY FORWARD INTO INTO THAT LIKE IT ALL THAT, BUT THERE IS SOME VALUE AND MAY BE LOOKING AT WHAT WE GET FOR THE MONEY. AND ON CERTAIN THINGS IT JUST YOU KNOW I I KNOW WHAT THAT MANY YEARS AGO JUST PRIOR TO JOY THE COMMISSION HERE THAT OVER A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS OF ANNUAL COST. REVERTED BACK TO OUR CITY WHICH REGARDS OUR PARKS AND REC AREAS WHICH YOU KNOW IT IS IT'S A SIZABLE CHUNK OF MONEY THAT YOU KNOW OUR TAXPAYERS HERE IN PORT ARE PAYING FOR SERVICES THAT WERE HERETOFORE PROVIDED BY THE COUNTY AND THE COUNTY DIDN'T CUT BACK OUR TAX DOLLARS WHEN THEY DID THAT SO WE'RE STILL CONTRIBUTING WHATEVER IT WAS TO HELP COVER THAT COST SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS IS THERE IS THERE YOU KNOW IS IT EVEN POSSIBLE THAT THAT COULD PART OF THE CONVERSATION IN THIS BUDGET CYCLE PROBABLY I JUST WANT TO BRING IT UP CLOSE. YOU KNOW BECAUSE I AM PLAYING TO THE AUDIENCE ANYBODY WHO MIGHT ACTUALLY BE OUT THERE WAS THINKING WHICH IS LIKE WE GET TAX FROM EVERY DIFFERENT VENUE ON TO THIS AND WHAT WE GET FOR OUR MONEY AND THERE IS VALUE IN PART OF A BIGGER ND SO I DIDN'T WANT TO BELONG IN THE COUNTY IN ANY WAY I JUST WANT THAT SEE IF IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN LOOKED AND THAT YOU KNOW IT'S SOMETHING WE THINK ABOUT CONSIDER. >> JUST RELATED TO I'M A MANAGER AND I HAVE ALREADY HAD CONVERSATIONS THE UPCOMING EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER CONVERSATION. I I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BUT PORT IS GETTING REALLY REALLY BIG AND AND THAT'S NOT EASING UP ANY TIME SOON THAT WE CAN SEE. >> AND I CAN SEE OVER TIME HOW THE CAPABILITY OF THE COUNTY TO PROVIDE CERTAIN SERVICES. I MEAN WHERE AT THE FAR END. THE COUNTY. AND IF WE START SPENDING TAXPAYER MONEY TO IMPLEMENT REDONE DUN SERVICES TO THE COUNTY WITH NO RELIEF TO OUR TAXPAYERS. THAT'S A HUGE PROBLEM FOR ME. I'M NOT MALIGNING THE COUNTY, IT'S THE CITY IS GROWING UP. AND AND I THINK IT WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THAT MAYBE THERE'S A SHIFT IN ECONOMIES OF FROM NORTH COUNTY JUST SOUTH COUNTY DIRECTOR THAT I I THINK TO YOUR POINT AS. >> AS MALL AND AS OUR POPULATION INCREASES THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH LOOKING AT THE MODEL MAKING SURE THAT IT STILL MATCHES THE INTENT OF THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE ALL KNOW OR INNINGS THIS. THE THING THAT COMES TO MY MIND IS YOU KNOW SOCIAL SERVICES AND YOU KNOW RENT WHERE I'M USED TO HAVING A DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES IN BED WITHIN A CITY. PROVIDED BY THE COUNTY THAT PERFORMS ALL THE FOLKS IN FROM A TO Z REST IS NOT WHAT WE HAVE HERE NOW AND MAYBE AT ONE POINT IN TIME THAT'S JUST NOT WHAT WAS NEEDED HERE NOW RIGHT NOW WITH OUR SOCIAL SERVICES VISION IN THEIR TEAM I KNEW FOR A FACT THAT THERE MEANING MORE SHORT OF RESOURCES AND ALIGN IT WITH THE THE TOTAL POPULATION THAT WE HAVE HERE NOW IT'S JUST DIFFERENT IT THAN IT LOOKS DIFFERENT THAN IT DID 5 YEARS AGO THAT THEY'VE BEEN IN 10 YEARS AGO RIGHT SO HAVING THAT CONVERSATION OF MAKING SURE THAT THE MODEL STILL WORKS FOR MOST NOT WAS INTENDED AS ALWAYS. >> IT MIGHT EVEN MAKE FOR VENICE TONIGHT SERVED IF WE BUILT IN THE OC HERE. YOU KNOW HAVING A CONVERSATION THAT VENICE MIGHT BE BETTER SERVED OUT OF NORTH SHORE THEM OUT NORTH COUNTY AND SO IT'S NOT A SLAM AT THE COUNTIES AND BUT TYPICALLY CITIES HAVE A HIGHER LEVEL OF SERVICE. THAT'S WHY OUR TAXES TEND TO BE HIGHER. AND AS ECONOMIES OF SCALE START TO SHIFT TO THE CITY I DON'T WANT TO GET THE CHIEFS MAD AT ME BUT WE'VE ALSO HAD 911 CONVERSATIONS RIGHT, SO IT'S JUST. >> OUR NEED BECAUSE OF OUR POPULATION GROWTH HERE IN THE CITY COULD VERY WELL OUTSTRIP THE SERVICE MODEL THAT THE COUNTY HAS IT AND WE SHOULDN'T SKEW BECAUSE WE NEED SOMETHING MORE A AND OFF MY SOAPBOX SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING VISION TO TAKE IT UP. >> YEAH, I THINK LONG ASSIGNED GET THAT SO. >> I HAVE BEEN. GENTLY ASKING. VERY SIMILAR QUESTION. WHAT COMMISSION VICE MAYOR STOPS IT SAID. AND I WAS STARTING SMALL. THE COUNTY USED TO PAY FOR THE YMCA A $100,000 A YEAR WHEN THE YMCA DID THE POOL. JUST 60 AT. >> I AND WHEN THE YMCA NO LONGER WAS DOING THE POOL AND WE HAD IT WAS THE POOL, THERE WENT THAT CONTRIBUTION THIS IS NOT A SECRET I HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS MULTIPLE TIMES SINCE I'VE BEEN UP HERE. SINCE THAT HAPPENED. I I WAS STARTING KIND OF SMALL AND THEN WHEN THE COUNTY SAID HEY NORTH PORT YOU'VE GOT TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR OWN PARKS NOW. WELL THAT WAS HUGE HIT BILLIONS OF PERSONNEL EQUIPMENT. AND WE LOST A $100,000 FOR THE POOL. WE HAVE A NEW POLL WE MIDDLE SPRINGS. I I THINK WHAT IT IS WE JUST HAVE TO USE REMIND IN AND ASK WE HAVE ASK PLEASE CAN YOU HELP US PAY A $100,000 FOR THE LIFEGUARDS FOR OUR POLL. THE COUNTY PAYS FOR A LIFEGUARD AT. >> THE BEACHES AND SOME OF THOSE BEACHES CITY-OWNED BEACHES. >> SO I DON'T THINK IT'S AN UNFAIR APPS CAN I WILL STAY ON MY SOAPBOX FOR WORK I CAN WITH THIS ASK. BUT IF WE DON'T ASK THE ANSWER IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE NOW. BUT THEN YOU ALSO HEAR NOW THAT THE COUNTY IS NEGOTIATING WITH. THAT FOR THEIR PARKS. BECAUSE INITIALLY THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE THAT IS TAKE OVER THEIR PARKS OPERATIONS. NOW THERE'S SOME NEGOTIATIONS GOING ON FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS SO THEM. >> SO. AND WE GOT IT. >> WE ARE A VERY LARGE CITY IN THIS COUNTY WE HAVE A HUGE VOTING BLOC WE CONTRIBUTE HUGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY TO THE COUNTY RIGHTFULLY SO THEY PROVIDE SERVICES TO THE CITY THAT WE DO NOT BUT BUT AT THE SAME TIME TO EVERYBODY ELSE'S POINT. THEY'RE PAYING FOR THINGS TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT WE ARE NOT GETTING IN RETURN. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY OF NORTH PORT HAS A SEAT AT THAT TABLE TO MAKE SURE THINGS ARE EQUITABLE AND >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER TO YOUR POINT YOU WILL BE AT THAT TABLE WITH THE COUNTY WHERE WE THAT JOINT MEETING IN THE UPCOMING LOOK AT THAT WE WILL HAVE IN THIS FISCAL YEAR. THAT IS A BOARD TO BOARD SORT ANSWER IS NEVER GOING TO BE IN THOUGH. >> OUR LEVEL BECAUSE I'M GOING TO ASK I HIM IN I KNOW NO TALK TO THE BOARD. SO WE HAVE THAT BOARD MEETING THAT SHOULD BE ONE OF THE IS WHAT BUDGETARY NEEDS DO ARE STILL EXISTING BETWEEN THE CITY WHARTON COUNTY THAT WE CAN MAKE THE POINT ABOUT THE LIFEGUARD BECOME POINT ABOUT THE GROWTH WHEN JUST IT JUST MAKE THE POINT CINCY. >> BUT BUT WE HAD THAT MEETING WE NEED TO HAVE A TO ASK YOU NEED TO SAY THAT WE FOUND OUT THAT WE GIVE YOU X $2 BASED ON WHAT YOU TOLD US YOU PROVIDE EXPERIENCE SERVICES WE NEED MORE OR LIKE YOU SAID WE PAY NOW FOR THE PARKS WHICH IS X MILLION IN. WE DIDN'T WOULDN'T TRADE OFF DONE LIKE WHERE'S WHERE'S THE WHERE'S WE SAID WILL AFFECT OF US DOING SOMETHING NOW THEY USED WHEN THEY MIGHT SAY WELL LET ME TELL YOU THIS IS WHERE NOW WE'RE TAX MONEY GOES I DON'T I DON'T KNOW I GET INTO THE QUESTION OF BEHALF. IT'S A GOOD CONVERSATION TO HAVE AND THEY WANT. >> WE NOT DON'T I'M TRYING SPEAK BADLY ABOUT THE COUNTY BUT AT SAME TIME. OUR LOYALTY SITTING APPEARS TO OUR RESIDENTS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING SHARE A FAIR SHARE SOME OF THE SERVICES THAT THE COUNTY PROVIDES OF MUNICIPALITIES THAT WE'RE NOT MISSING. >> AND AND THAT IS WHERE I WILL ALWAYS BE DON'T RIGHT. >> CERTAINLY MADE LISTENING TO BOTH. MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS THAT AND AND MAID. GOOD POINT SAYING YOU KNOW THAT THE COLLABORATION I MEAN LET'S FACE IT WASN'T THAT MANY YEARS AGO THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN BE PERFECTLY BLUNT THE COUNTY. ONE THAT GOOD. AND WE'VE WAIT WHICH BUILDING THAT RELATIONSHIP BACK AND PARTNERSHIPS ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. YOU CAN'T EXIST AS AN SAME TIME YOU ALSO DON'T WANT TO TAKE IT IF YOU HAVE A CHOPPED AND SOMETIMES WHEN YOU SEE THE INCONSISTENCY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL POINTED OUT YOU KIND OF SCRATCH, YOUR HEAD I MEAN VENICE TO KIND OF A TOUGH APPROACH WITH THEM AND SCHOOLED I MEAN THAT'S NOT I DON'T THINK NECESSARILY OR STYLE HERE IN NORTH PORT AT LEAST I WOULD HOPE NOT BUT AT THE SAME TIME. THEY'RE GETTING THE NEGOTIATION. REAL DOLLARS THAT THEIR CITIZENS MAY WELL NOT HAVE TO PAY CHILD SUPPORT SOME OF THOSE PARKS WHERE WE TOOK IT ON THE CHIN SO I THINK IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO POUR FOR BUDGET WILL, BUT IT IS THAT THIS CONVERSATION BUT IT IS REALLY I THINK IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THAT COLLABORATION SIT DOWN WITH THEM THAT WE'RE NOT AFRAID TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES IN A VERY RESPECTFUL WAY BECAUSE THEY NOT ENEMY. >> OKAY THEN AND AT THE SAME BUT 10 THAT WE NEED THAT REALLY DID NOT LIKE A REDHEADED STEPCHILD BUT AS POINT AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT AND FRANKLY I BELIEVE. GENERALLY SPEAKING THEY FEEL THAT WAY I DON'T THINK THEY LOOK DOWN I JUST THINK THAT SOMETIMES THE SQUEAKY WHEEL GETS THE GREASE AND YOU KNOW IF IT'S LIGHTLY RESPECTFULLY SOMETIMES YOU CAN WORK OUT THINGS TO OUR MUTUAL BENEFIT ALL RIGHT SO WE'LL HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WE HAVE THAT MANY IT HAS IN THE SCHEDULE YET KNOWN, BUT THE MYSTERY REACH OUT TO SEE IF WE WOULD HAVE IT AND I SAID ABSOLUTELY SO WE'LL RIGHT IN THIS FISCAL AND SOMEBODY I THINK MONEY REVENUE FROM OUR COUNTY. >> TAX RATE TO AND WE HAVE I THINK WE HAVE THOSE FIGURES LIKE WE PAY THE COUNTY RIGHT NOW ANDREA WHAT IS THAT THAT WORK TO CONTRIBUTING TO THE COUNTY PACE THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO KNOW BECAUSE AGAIN AT ONE TIME. THINK THE REASON WHY THINGS HAPPEN IS BECAUSE NORTH PORTLAND CONTRIBUTING MAYBE ENOUGH NOW. WE ARE AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO KNOW THAT YOU NEED TO KNOW NOT ONLY WHAT YOU CONTRIBUTE WHAT YOU'RE GETTING FROM RIGHT VOTE DOWN SO WE CAN GO GET IT FIGURED THAT OUT. >> THAT THANKS AS COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL BROUGHT UP RIGHT IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT THAT WE LOST A LOT SERVICES ALONG THE BUT BY THE RIPPED THE ROADSIDE THERE >> NOT NOT REALLY RIGHT. AND NOT ONLY JUST THE REVENUE WE PAY IN TAXES OR AD WARM BUT DON'T FORGET. OUR NEW BUSINESSES PAY IMPACT FEES TO THE COUNTY THAT'S RIGHT. AND YOU KNOW THERE'S A THING CALLED THE RATIONAL NEXUS. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS USED RATIONALLY NEXT THAT'S WHAT THEY CALL IT. NATIONAL NEXUS. >> ANY EX US. >> NATIONAL IT'S JUST A LEGAL TERM IN THE STANDARD THAT'S IN THE STATUTE, THE CITY ALREADY OPERATES AND ALL UTILIZING IMPACT FEES HAVE TO OPERATE UNDER THAT ESSENTIALLY IN LAYMAN'S TERMS THAT YOU HAVE TO UTILIZE THE IMPACT CREATING THE IMPACT NOW THEY HAVE TO UTILIZE THE IT BE IMPACT FEES RELATED TO THE STRAIN ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE BASED ON THE GROWTH THAT GENERATED THE THANK YOU READ. THANK GOD, IT. >> IS NEXT S ANY EX US THE INTERSECTION POINT. IT'S CALLED THE RATIONAL NEXUS TESTS THAT'S KIND OF ILLEGAL THANK >> YEAH TO THIS KNOW CITY CLERK HAS TAKEN LEAVE AND MATT POWELL, HOW WILL BE THE AUTHORIZED REPRESENTATIVE. SINCE WE CAME BACK FROM OUR. HE SAYS SO I HAD TO MAKE THAT. ALL RIGHT SO WHERE ARE WE DOING A NEW ROUND OF QUESTIONS HERE. I WAS JUST COMING BACK, YOU WHAT YES HAVE A CASE COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL IS HIS FIRST IN THE SO THE NEXT QUESTION THAT I HAVE HAS TO DO AND I DON'T KNOW ARE WE COMPLETELY ONLY FOCUSING ON GENERAL FUND ASSUMPTIONS AND ARE READY PROJECTIONS OR ARE WE TALKING BUDGET WANT. >> ANY BUDGET ITEMS YOU WOULD LIKE IS SO LET'S GO TO ROAD AND DRAINAGE. KINDA WAS TOUCHED BUT THEN DISAPPEARED. >> THE PROJECT TO FUND BALANCES IN THE NEGATIVE FOR THE 15 MILLION. >> AND THERE WAS SOME. >> DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW. >> WE'RE GETTING MONEY BACK FROM FEMA. SO IF WE'RE GETTING MONEY BACK FROM FEMA AND ITS GEARED TOWARDS THE DRAINAGE AND THEN WE GET MONEY BACK FROM FEMA FOR PARKS THAT WILL GO BACK TO PARKS OR WILL ALL OF THE FEMA MONEY STRICTLY GO TO. ONE BUCKET. I I'M. SO MY QUESTION IS TO GET MONEY BACK FROM FEMA OR INSURANCE. BECAUSE THERE ARE 2 ENTITIES. >> IS IT GOING TO EXPENSE THAT WAS EXPENDED FROM BUCKET OR IS GOING TO BE ONLY REAPPLIED TO ONLY ONE PLACE. >> TO GET THE NEGATIVE. BALANCES. >> IT WILL GO BACK TO THE BUCKET FOR US. >> OKAY. >> SO FEMA MONEY IS IT ALL THAT MONEY COMING ONLY FROM ROAD AND DRAINAGE OR IS IT JUST A LUMP SUM THAT'S COMING IN AND THEN. >> PORTION OF ROAD DRAINAGE A PORTION OF ARTS APPORTION ABOUT A GENERAL THING IT DEPENDS ON HOW. >> PROJECTS WRITTEN WITH MOST OF IT SEPARATED, BUT FUN. WE DO HAVE A COUPLE BUILDING PERMIT. THAT INCLUDES PARKS, MAYBE SOMETHING FROM FIRE MAY BE SOMETHING MORE BRAINS. AND IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THIS REINFORCEMENTS COME AS A MOM AND IT'S A. MY STAFF. IT'S PACKED WHAT USUALLY AT HOUSE FIRST AND WORKING WITH >> CONTRACT SO YOU COULD YOU HAVE A SPREADSHEET OF WHAT WAS EXPENDED AND WHAT IS COMING WILL THAT BE INTERESTING TO SEE. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF THIS BUDGET. >> I HAVE A COUPLE RELATED QUESTIONS IF MAY MADAM MAYOR. >> WE TALKED ABOUT INSURANCE AND FEMA MONEY COMING IN SO RELATIVE TO ROAD AND DRAINAGE. SO THAT NEGATIVE FUND BALANCE AND THE ROUGH ESTIMATE OF WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THAT WILL BE MADE UP BY FEMA AND INSURANCE LIKE WHAT'S A. >> DELTA THERE QUESTION NUMBER ONE. QUESTION NUMBER 2 IS GIVEN. THE NEGATIVE. FUND BALANCE AND ROAD AND DRAINAGE. >> SHOULD WE BE RESERVING MORE THAN 20% ARE WE LEGALLY ABLE TO DO THAT UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES. >> SO I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT OVER RESERVE AND WE'RE EXPECTING THAT FUN TO BE MADE EVEN PARTIALLY. HALL BY FEMA, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A SENSE OF WHERE WE'RE AT. PERCENTAGE. >> SO WHEN IT COMES DEBRIS. THOSE ARE REIMBURSED AT A 100% UP TO A CERTAIN TIME PERIOD. AND I THINK SOME 22. SO ANYTHING FROM THAT THOSE 3 OR 4 GAMES PART OF THE STORM TILL DECEMBER 8TH, 2022. BREE ONLY CITY STAFF. EQUIPMENT THIS TYPES OF THINGS. A 100% RIGHT. >> AND WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING IN BY THE DEADLINE. >> THERE IS THE DEADLINE ONGOING SO BECAUSE IT TAKES A LOT OF TIME WITH THIS >> WE DID REALLY GOOD WITH REIMBURSEMENTS FOR FREE ESPECIALLY. YOU KNOW GETTING A FOR EVERYBODY ELSE STARTED TURNING PAPERWORK IN SLOWING THE PROCESS DOWN WHICH IS WHERE WE'RE AT NOW. ANYTHING AFTER THAT DECEMBER 8TH DEADLINE IS REIMBURSED AT 90 PER SET HIM UP I PERCENT STATE AND THEN WE'RE RESPONSIBLE I STOP. AND THAT'S ALSO FOR DEBRIS AND OUR TIME. WHEN IT COMES TO PERMANENT BUILDINGS AND STRUCTURES AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THAT ARE INSURED THE MUD IS A LAST RESORT JUST LIKE IT IS FOR REGULAR PERSON SO IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE WHILE WELL THIS PERMANENT REPAIRS ARE COMPLETED WE'LL GO TO ENSURE ITS FIRST. INSURANCE WILL PAY WHERE THEY DO THEN WE SUBMIT A CLAIM TO THE MOB AND THEN SEE WHERE THEY CAN MAKE IT OUT. ANYTHING, BUT IT'S JUST LIKE A REGULAR RESIDENT, WHENEVER IT COMES >> SHOULD WE BE RESERVING MORE THAT ON THEM WE ARE. DON'T EVERYBODY >> I THINK THAT THE HEAD OF THE SHOW PUT IT IN A GOOD POSITION TO. REASONABLE SITUATIONS OCCUR EVEN WITH THIS FORWARD AND WHICH WAS SORT OF IT THE WORST END OF THE SPECTRUM. SO EVEN THOUGH GOT SOME MONEY ALREADY AT POLICE IS THAT IT WILL GET THERE WE'RE EXPECTED TO GET ONE DONE IN THIS FISCAL YEAR. THE THAT SHOWS THAT YOUR SYSTEM WORKING PROPERLY. IF YOU INCREASE IT AND THEY TAKE A. ACTION. THE BOARD IN ORDER TO DO THAT YOU ARE VERY WELL CAPABLE OF BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING DO WITH THE PRIME >> FROM RUBBLE AND WE'RE EXPECTING ANOTHER 7 MILLION FOR DEBRIS ONLY SO ALL OF THAT IS ROAD AND DRAINAGE SO THAT'S WHAT'S LEFT, BUT WE EXPECT TO BE REIMBURSED. SO NOW THE BOARD CAN YOU KNOW. IF YOU MOVE TO RESERVE ONE YOU CAN'T IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT WE DO. >> WE GAVE YOU THE. >> TO YOUR EARLY TO RESTORE IT. SO MUCH YOU'RE NOT HAPPY WITH THAT IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE NEED TO BE MAKING EXTRA ARE. RESERVATIONS FOR. >> DIRECTORS SPEAK MOVE DOWN AND THE THAT YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING OKAY OKAY HAHA THE RIGHT. AND WITH THAT I AM SHOWING COMMISSIONER ON THE LOOKOUT TO >> SO THE COMMISSION CAN DEFINITELY INCREASE. AND IN LIGHT OF HURRICANE IAN, MAYBE WE SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE DURING BE INSTEAD OF THE 20%, MAYBE 25. OR SOMETHING. BUT WE ALSO HAVE OUR FUND BALANCE POLICY IS NOT JUST BETWEEN PERCENT. THERE'S ALSO A FUND BALANCE OF 10 MORE PERCENT THAT ALWAYS SEEMS TO GET LOST BY THE WAIST THAT'S NOT ACCOUNTED FOR BECAUSE IT'S A. UP TO. 10% BUT THERE'S NO MINIMUM AND THAT IS FOR THE. IF THERE'S A COST OF MATERIALS GOES UP WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE ANOTHER. UP TO 10%. AS PART OF FUND BALANCE HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THAT HAVE A MINIMUM BECAUSE THERE'S 2 DIFFERENT ONES EMERGENCY. ONE IS MORE ECONOMIC. YOU KNOW IT'S LIKE THE COST OF STEEL WHEN YOU'RE WE HAVE TO COST TO STILL GO UP WHICH INCREASE THE COST OF SOLID WASTE AND EXPONENTIALLY SO CAN PUT IT ECONOMIC STABILIZATION UP 2% AND THAT'S NOT CAPTURED IN WHERE WE JUST TALK ABOUT FUN ABOUT IT. SO. >> AND THAT PREVIOUSLY WAS REQUIRED 5% IT WAS REMINDING TO TAKE THAT AWAY AND SAY IT'S UP TO 10 WITHOUT COMMISSION APPROVAL, STILL GOING BY. >> WITH YOUR APPROVAL, BUT THERE WAS NO MINIMUM FOR THAT ECONOMIC STATE STABILIZATION WHICH WAS 5%. SO MAYBE THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE MIGHT WANT TO PUT ON CITY MANAGER STAFFS RADAR TO SEE ABOUT RE-DOING SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE AND HAVING THAT DISCUSSION BECAUSE IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, IT'S GOING JUST A STATUS QUO. >> WANTED OUT COMING REGARDING THE YOUNG AND THE VOTERS. PERCENTAGE. IT WILL HAVE AN EFFECT ON THE RATE IF YOU DO THAT BECAUSE PUTTING MORE SIDE LOOKED FAVORABLE FOR. >> VICE >> MAYOR. SEPARATE WHAT IS THE SUSTAINABILITY MANAGER. IS ARE OUR NATURAL RESOURCE DIVISION OR DEPARTMENT. I MEAN IT WAS BROUGHT UP EARLIER ON IN THE PRESENTATION. SO I'M JUST CURIOUS LIKE I UNIT THAT CAN POPPED OUT AT ME AND I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THE DEFINITION OF JOB VERSUS RESPONSIBILITY SET FOR NATURAL RESOURCES. >> TO OFFICE RIGHT >> REFERRING TO THAT YOU'RE. ON >> PRESSED. TRIBAL CAN'T LEAVE HER IT. >> JUST RELATED TO THAT IF I CAN JUMP ONTO BY MAYOR'S COMMENT. HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS EARLIER WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING THE NATURAL RESOURCES DIVISION AND I HAD TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOVE GREEN BUILDING PRACTICES THAT SEEMS OUTSIDE OF A NATURAL RESOURCES DIVISION, BUT IT MIGHT BE PART OF A SUSTAINABILITY MANAGER ABOUT ALL KEEP QUIET LET THE EXPERT EXPOUND. GOOD MORNING. >> SO OUR NATURAL RESOURCES, THEY'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON. >> PRIMARILY. ENSURING THAT DEVELOPMENT HAPPENS IN A SUSTAINABLE WAY. THERE ALSO. FOCUSED ON PROTECTION OF OUR RESOURCES DURING CONSTRUCTION, SO GOPHER TORTOISES TREES THINGS LIKE THEY'RE WORKING LOOKING AT ARE ORDINANCES ARE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS. THEY DO NOT DO POLICE ACTIVITY. THEY SOME ENFORCEMENT AS FAR AS IF. THEY HAVE TREES THAT ARE TAKEN DOWN ON THE PROPERTY. THEY WILL. REPORT THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT AND CODE ENFORCEMENT WILL FOLLOW UP ON THAT. THE OFFICER THAT IS OVER CONSERVATION. HE HANDLES A LOT OF ILLEGAL DUMPING THINGS THAT CAN BE TICKETED FOR. OUR NATURAL RESOURCES DIVISION DOESN'T HAVE ANY TYPE OF ENFORCEMENT POWERS UNDER THE THEY DON'T HAVE ANY WAY TO TAKE IT ANYONE OR PROVIDE ALISHA NOTICES TO ANYONE. AS FAR AS GREEN BUILDING PRACTICES THEY ARE LOOKING AT THAT THEY ARE LOOKING AT SUSTAINABILITY THEY WOULD WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE SUSTAINABILITY MANAGER. 2. LOOK AT DEVELOPING A SUSTAINABILITY PROGRAM. THEY ARE LOOKING OTHER JURISDICTIONS THAT BILITY FEES AND HELP AS WORK SO DID THAT COME CAN GET A CHUCKLE TO >> SO THEY ARE THEY ARE LOOKING AT AT HOW TO IMPLEMENT SUSTAINABILITY FEES AND WHAT TO USE THAT MONEY FOR BEST PRACTICES, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS SO AND A VERY WIDE RANGE OF. PROGRAMMATIC THINGS THAT THEY CAN DO LOT OF KNOWLEDGE BASE IN ORDER TO DO THAT. BUT IT IS DIFFERENT FROM GOING OUT AND FINDING ILLEGAL DUMPERS ARE WATER YOU KNOW FLUID RELEASES THINGS LIKE BECAUSE GUESS MY QUESTION IS I JUST. >> OKAY REALIZING IT SEPARATE REPORT FROM OUR NATURAL RESOURCES. JUST LIKE DO WE HAVE PEOPLE WITHIN YOUR DEPARTMENT THAT WORK ON SUSTAINABILITY WHY A SUSTAINABILITY MANAGER I JUST JUST QUESTION I MEAN I KNOW ON ONE PARTICULAR ITEM BUT BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND LIKE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP IN A PRESENTATION AS IF IT LIKE LIVING MATCH IS IS THERE A STAFF OF SUSTAINABILITY PEOPLE WATERS SOMEWHAT GROUP IN A ROOM SOMEWHERE THAT DOES THE STUFF AND NOW WE NEED A MANAGER FOR I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND POPPED UP YOU >> THAT DECISION WAS NOT FROM MY DEPARTMENT, SO I THINK THAT WAS FROM PUBLIC WORKS UTILITIES UTILITIES DEPARTMENT SO THAT WOULD BE A SUSTAINABILITY MANAGER FROM THE STANDPOINT OF HOW CITIES UTILITIES ARE OPERATED. BUT I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO TO OUR UTILITIES DIRECTOR FOR THAT. >> ANYTHING. >> THAT HAS TO DO PLAIN ABILITY HOWEVER, THE NATURAL RESOURCES DIVISION WOULD BE A PART OF THAT. CONSULTATIONS FOR. PROGRAMS REVIEW OF ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS THINGS LIKE THAT BUT I I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT POSITION SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE IT WAS I REQUEST. >> FOOD ABOUT SHE HAD EXPLAIN AWAY AND MUSHY COMES TO ASSURE GOT HIT IT. I I DON'T THINK IT WAS SPECIFICALLY A SUSTAINABILITY MANAGER I THINK IT WAS MORE CATTLE GRAZE. OR SOME TYPE POSITION PER SUSTAINABILITY AND IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SPLIT BETWEEN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND UTILITIES DEPARTMENT AND THEN IT KIND OF WANT TO TELL A AND THEN IT WAS JUST PART OF THE DISCUSSION THAT HAD DURING STRATEGIC PLANNING. AND IT PRETTY MUCH PRIOR TO THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE NATURAL RESOURCES DIVISION SO IT MORE ABOUT AT ALL KIND TITLE. NOTHING EVER HAPPENED WITH THAT. UNTIL THE NATURAL RESOURCE >> POWER POINT. >> IT'S TO TEACH OF PLANNING POWER GOING >> BUT IF I DIDN'T SEE EXACTLY WHERE IT IS TOO. >> BUT JUST TO SHARE SOMETHING TO VICE YEARS AGO JONATHAN LEWIS WAS THE CITY MANAGER HERE I DID HOST WORKSHOP ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY MANAGER FROM CITY OF SARASOTA AND IT ENCOMPASSES MORE THAN JUST A NATURAL LANDSCAPE AS AND SEVERAL RAIN BUILDING AND PRACTICES NOW ARE STABLE COMMUNITY THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY CONNECTED WITH THEM AT HOME DOES EXTENSIVE THIS AREA, >> FAIRMAN RESILIENCY UNSUSTAINABLE UNITS OR YOU NEED TO RECORD THE QUESTION OKAY. >> SO I HAD TO RECALL A TIME WHEN THEY CAME UP. WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY MANAGER WERE TALKING YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE SEA LEVEL RISE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING THAT'S IMPACTING THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF OUR CITY. AT THAT TIME THINK WAS ONLY A THIS BUDGET SEASON WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT POSITION SHIFTING OVER TO THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES GROUP. WE TOOK THE POSITION THAT WE HAD AND WE TURN CHANGE THAT ASSET MANAGER AND THAT ASSET MANAGERS NOW RESPONSIBLE FOR INFRASTRUCTURE AND ISO 5,001 CERTIFICATION PROGRAM SO THEY'RE LEADING THAT CHARGE RIGHT NOW THAT WILL SEE THE BUDGET 2 IN THAT NEXT YEAR. WE'RE DEEPLY INTO THAT NOW WE'VE DONE OUR GAP ANALYSIS. WE HAVE OUR ROAD MAP AND WE'RE NOW. WORKED ON OUR ALL OUR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES WITH A NUTELLA TEES SOME ISSUE IS NO LONGER SUSTAINABILITY MANAGER AND OR UTILITIES. THAT CONVERSATION WAS THAT IT WOULD SHIFT THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT STILL. >> IN YOUR I THINK TO THAT AGAIN THE. >> WE DO NOT HAVE. >> PLANS FOR A SUSTAINABILITY MANAGER. THINGS LIKE CLIMATE CHANGE SEA LEVEL RISE THOSE TYPES OF THINGS ARE IN THE WHEELHOUSE OF OUR NATURAL RESOURCES PERSONNEL. AND I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT WE BOTH THOSE PROGRAMS ARE THEY THEY HAVE A LOT ON THEIR PLATE. SO WE OF COURSE NEED TO PRIORITIZE THERE TASKS AND THE PROGRAMS THAT THEY WORK ON. BUT AS THEY GET. MORE HE SAID THAT AS WE. DEVELOP PROGRAMS. HIGH WERE. WELL I WOULD I WOULD ENVISION WOULD FALL UNDER THEM AND THEY WOULD WORK WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS WITH UTILITIES ARE OTHER DEPARTMENTS. 2. DEVELOP THIS PROGRAM SO THAT WE ARE ENSURING THAT FOR INSTANCE, YOU KNOW OUR WATER TABLES ARE TAKING INTO IT. WE'RE TAKING INTO ACCOUNT WITH OUR UTILITIES ARE UNDERGROUND WORK THAT YOU KNOW WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR WATER TABLES WERE LOOKING AT SEA LEVEL RISE TYPES OF THINGS. SO I DO SEE THAT IS THE PART OF THE FUNCTION OF NATURAL RESOURCES, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WOULD HAVE PARTICULAR. THIS SHOULD CALLED SUSTAINABILITY MANAGER I THINK WITH OUR ENVIRONMENTAL PLAYERS THAT MEANT TO SPECIALISTS. WE A LOT OF THAT SOLID BASE BILL WE CAN CHECK DEEPER DIVE THAT I NEEDED TO I JUST SAW THERE WAS A PRIORITY AND IT WAS THE SECOND HIGHEST PRIORITY UNDER THAT. >> 2, 5, SO I SAID, BUT SO WE DON'T NEED I TALENT, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF DEVELOPING A PROCESS THAT JUST WANT TO GET IT BECAUSE THEY COVER SO WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE SHIP DISCOVERER WHICH THAT'S WHAT I WANT HEAR THAT WE'VE GOT THOSE. >> GOING TO TAKE GOAL. THANK YOU. >> SO JUST A COMMENT. SO CAN WE TAKE THAT OUT AND WE DROP DOWN A PRIORITY AREA TO GET THE TOP 3 W THAT WITH RETURNS ARE THAT ALLIES IN THIS CONVERSATION, GREAT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER ANYONE THE SAME. I JUST CAUSE THIS RAIN MENTION THAT NATURAL. RESOURCE DIVISION IS IS IS BASED FOCUSED MAINLY ON DEVELOPMENT. I JUST LIKE TO PUT IT OUT THERE FOR A FURTHER CONVERSATION FOR US TO START. GOING IN THE DIRECTION OF MORE PROACTIVE. THINGS I MEAN THE CITY OF SARASOTA THE CITY OF VENICE THEY BOTH HAVE LIKE HOMEOWNER TREE PLANTING OPPORTUNITIES USING THEIR TREE FUNDS THINK THAT'S WHAT I'M I'M GETTING AT THINGS LIKE THAT. >> YES, WE WELL WHEN I SAY THEY'RE FOCUSED DEVELOPMENT IS BECAUSE THEY'RE YEAH TRYING TO GET A HANDLE ON. YES THAT SUCH FAST PACE RIGHT RIGHT. THERE PUTTING IN THOSE PROTECTIONS INTERNALLY WITH OUR PROCESSES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DO WE DON'T MISS ANYTHING RIGHT SO THAT'S WHERE THERE. A LOT OF THEIR FOCUS IS GOING RIGHT NOW THAT THEY ARE ALREADY WORKING ON SOME PROACTIVE STEPS REFORESTATION IN CERTAIN AREAS JOCKEY CLUB OVER ANNOUNCED PEOPLE BEEN ASKED ME ABOUT THAT BECAUSE NOW THEY CALL A MICRO FOREST. MY CARS THAT ONE TIME ALL TONIGHT AS THAT IT'S THE SAME THAT SAME THING IS GOES AROUND. BUT THAT'S. >> TAKE IT ANY ANYTHING YOU WANT TO CALL THAT'S FINE BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT THINGS DEFINITELY WORKING ON TYPES OF PROGRAMS. >> IT'S JUST THEY WANTED TO ENSURE THEY GOT THEIR HANDS AROUND DEVELOPMENT PROBLEM. YES, FIRST BECAUSE OTHERWISE USE THAT IT WOULD. >> COMPLETELY THE ROUTE THE BARN THINK FOR ERGO IT. THE REASON I BROUGHT IT UP AGAIN IT'S BECAUSE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. NEW BUDGET. LET'S MAKE IT REAL CLEAR LOT OF MONEY TO FUND. >> YES THERE MAY BE SOME REVENUE SOURCES STEP WE CAN TWEAK HERE AND THERE. BUT IF WE DON'T SEE THE KIND PROPERTY ASSESSMENT INCREASE OF THAT WE 7 AND A HALF PERCENT WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME PRETTY GOOD CUTS HERE. AND WE BETTER BE PREPARED TO MAKE. OKAY BECAUSE THE ANSWER IS IN MY OPINION TO RAISE ANYBODY'S TAXES. IT'S CUT. THIS YEAR, OKAY THE TIME HAS COME TO LOOK AND TAKE SOME VERY HARD LOOKS AT THESE NUMBERS, ESPECIALLY IN WILL. A SEPARATE CONVERSATION ABOUT BUILDING A NEW POLICE HEADQUARTERS WHICH IF THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY DECIDE THEY WANT TO DO WILL TAXPAYERS SOME AND SO I SAY THIS BUDGET PROCESS I'D BETTER ABOUT CUTTING. AND DISSECTING WHERE WE ARE AND THERE ARE PRIORITIES THAT ARE GOING ASK THE WAIT THAT SIMPLE ANSWERS JUST NOT TO CONTINUE TO SPEND AND AND AND AND AND AND I FEELING. DON'T RELISH BEING THE PERSON TO SAY THIS. WELL QUITE FRANKLY I AM CONSERVATIVE WHEN IT COMES BUDGET AND I BELIEVE WE NEED TO PROVIDE AND SERVICE THE SPACE KILLERS OF OUR CITY. BUT I WILL TELL YOU THIS. THERE'S A LOT VARIANCE THAT HAVE TO BE LOOKED AT AND TIGHTENED UP AND IN ORDER TO. AND THIS 3 MILLION 1 GAP AND THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY SO WE CAN SIT HERE AND TALK A LOT ABOUT ALL THE THINGS WE'D LIKE TO BUT ANYTHING WE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT ALL THE THINGS WE'RE GOING TO FOR 2 WITHOUT. >> SPENT YOU SOME QUESTION GOT ADD TO THAT IS I THINK TO SEPARATE OUT A SEPARATE ANYTHING COMMISSIONER WHY OF OTHER QUESTION. SO SO WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE POLICE STATION AND THE ONLY REASON WHY I'M BRINGING IT UP IS BECAUSE IT'S PART OF THE PRESENTATION ON THE FUND BALANCE ANALYSIS. >> WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE POLICE STATION WE WERE TOLD THAT THERE WAS ABOUT 10 MILLION DOLLARS IN EXCESS BONES FOR THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. >> BUT LOOKING AT THIS. >> THEY SAID THAT THEY COULD PURCHASE THE NORTH PORT POLICE DEPARTMENT BUILDING THROUGH THE BUILDING FUND FOR 7 MILLION THAT SCENE. THIS FUND BALANCE IS ONLY 5.3 MILLION. SO I'M I'M KIND OF CONFUSED AS TO WHERE'S THE REST OF THAT MONEY FROM JUST A COUPLE WEEKS >> THE ACTUAL FUND BALANCE IS 5.3. >> SO EVEN THE 7 MILLION IS OFF THE TABLE. >> BUT WE ARE WHAT WE'RE DOING IS THAT PATHWAY WHETHER IT'S A 5 MILLION 7 MILLION. WE'RE GOING THROUGH A PROPER CHOSE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS A VIABLE OPTION TO DONE. WERE ALSO VERIFY YOU'RE NOT GOING >> OK IT'S OVER SO SO WAS A PRELIMINARY NUMBER OF PRIMARY DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT THE HAD ON THAT BUT WITH THE SALE OF ASSETS. >> THERE ARE ALSO SOME PROPERTIES ON TANGIBLE EFFECTS OF THE DEPARTMENT'S OVERALL. >> OPTION THAT WOULD CONSIDERED IN THE INITIAL CONVERSATIONS OF TIME TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM, I JUST WANTED TO GET CLARITY BECAUSE WE WERE AT THAT DISCUSSION. IT WAS 7 MILLION DOLLARS WEEK BY THE POLICE STATION WANTED TO BECAUSE IT SO YES, I'M JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE WE NEED YOU AND I'M GLAD I GOT THE CLARITY THAT YOU KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE. I DARE HAVE ANOTHER SEPARATE QUESTION, OKAY. >> CITY MANAGER THE NEW ENTERPRISE RESOURCE PLANNING AND I KNOW YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE A HARD QUESTION PROJECTION ON THAT. BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT. OBVIOUSLY BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO GET SOME GENERAL PRESSURE TALKING LIKE A COUPLE $100,000 ARE WE TALKING A COUPLE MILLION DOLLARS ARE WE TALKING 5 MILLION DOLLARS IN THIS TRYING TO GET MY KIDS UNDERSTAND HOW ACTUALLY IMPACT THE NEXT FISCAL BUDGET JUST. I WOULD. >> IT'S A PROBLEM THAT GOING TO PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE PROVIDING >> THIS IN TOTAL TOTAL TOLD THAT THAT WILL BE SPREAD OUT OVER. ALL OF YEAR YOU KNOW HAPPENED WHEN RIGHT. WE COULD BE TALKING A COUPLE MILLION IN THE FIRST YEAR SAYING IT COULD BE OKAY. BUT YOU KNOW AS OUR TOOL OUR THE WORKS IN THE PROCESS. >> WE'RE GOING HAVE SORT OF TIMELINE THE REGION THAT WILL ACCOMPANY RESULT INITIAL GROUNDWORK THEY WANT THAT HAPPENS. WE'LL TELL YOU HOW WAR 2. >> PROFIT IN TAKING ON MUCH BECAUSE AGAIN THAT'S NOT SO FAR CONTEMPLATED AT LEAST I WOULDN'T THINK IN THIS 5.4 MILLION OF INCREASED EXPENSES WERE 3.1 MILLION THAT'S NOT FACTORED IN SO. BEARING IN MIND THAT. >> VERY WELL MAY BE A. >> SIGNIFICANT AND VALUED ENOUGH PRIORITY FOR US AND IF WE SEE THERE'S A MILLION TO 2 MILLION WE'RE GOING TO NEED WE JUST HAVE TO FACTOR THAT IN AGAIN AND HOW NOW THAT 3.1 MIGHT BE WATER FOR PORT JUST SO WE TAKE IT LOSE IT THEN FINE SOMEWHERE 6 MONTHS 8 MONTHS DOWN. THERE ISN'T A ASK WHY WE NEED A MILLION DOLLARS IN BUDGET AMENDMENTS FOR THIS. >> PLEASE DO ALL OVER THE ON NUMBER IS JUST A ROUND NUMBER WE TODAY I THE THE INCREASE IS THAT WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PERSONNEL FROM PATIENTS. FACT IS NUMBER YET. >> KNOW THAT WAS MY NEXT >> SOME OF THEM JUST DO. ALTHOUGH YOU KNOW NEVER SAY OR DOLLAR WHICH WE FIND THAT OUR NOT. >> GOING TO KEEP UP WITH WITH AND THAT'S WHY AND THAT'S WHY IT'S SPECIAL BECAUSE IN THE IN THE 1.8 MILLION SEVEN THREE SEVEN 100 UP ABOVE UNIONS WILL THAT MAY NOT. >> THE. >> INCLUSIVE ITS UNION BUT I MEAN IF WE GUESS THAT'S I'M SAYING THE SAME THING YOU ARE THAT 5.4 MILLION DOLLARS WORTH INCREASED COSTS MAYBE 6 MILLION 87 MILLION MAYBE MORE MAYBE A LITTLE LESS WE DO SO THAT 3 MILLION 1 SHORTFALL. >> IS A REAL FLUID I JUST WANT US REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT WHAT'S GOING TO BE INVOLVED HERE WE'VE GOT TO TO MAKE UP THAT GAP. I MEAN. AS DRUM SETS AND CITY MANAGER SAID THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT YEAR AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THINGS VERY DIFFERENTLY OR SHOULD BE THAT WE HAVE HERETOFORE YOU KNOW I WANT TO MAKE SURE. THAT EVER OR UNDERSTAND BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO BE. A COUPLE OF MONTHS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE THIS WORK AND STILL MAINTAIN. THE PRIORITIES WITHIN THE PILLARS THAT YOU ARE SO DEAR TO US AS A CITY THEY ARE THEY'RE IMPORTANT TO CAN'T JUST TO COME. TO OCCUR, BUT BUT THERE IS SOME HARD DECISIONS THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE MADE HERE LET SOMEBODY GO UP WITH FOR 5 MILLION DOLLARS WORTH REVENUE. I LEFT FIELD WHICH I DON'T THINK THAT HAPPENED. THAT'S WHY PAY PEOPLE TO THINK BUCK. >> PLAN THEY ALSO BRING ALONG WAS LIKE YEAH, SO. >> THE NEW ENTERPRISE RESOURCE PLANNING. DURING THE DOLLAR I. >> I NEEDED LITTLE QUICK REFRESHER WHAT EXACTLY IS THIS AGAIN I DO REMEMBER THE CONVERSATION BEFORE SO EVERY CITY. >> AS A HEART OPERATION TO THINK ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY HAPPENED HOW HE >> SOME OF WITH TODAY'S SOME OF THEM ARE NOT WITH BASE. BUT AS YOU CAN IMAGINE 2024. WE REALLY SHOULD BE OPERATING ON A WEB BASED TECHNOLOGY THAT IS ABLE TO. >> THE THE MOST EFFICIENT. WELL THE DIFFERENT AREAS THAT IT OPERATES OUR VERY OLD. IT'S TIME TO REPLACE IT. >> THE PACE A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE MORE EFFICIENT BECAUSE THE SYSTEM WILL BE THE WAR. THE TECHNOLOGY WILL BE BETTER. THEY SHOULD HAVE MORE WITH FACE CAPABILITIES TO ASSIST 1520 YEARS AGO. WE PLACING IT IS ACCORDING TO YOUR IT'S IT'S ONE OF THOSE NECESSARY EVIL THAT YOU'RE GOING REPLACE AS SO IDEALLY YOU WOULD LIKE TO REPLACE IT BEFORE YOU START TO SEE. THAT THE CITIES IN THE SYSTEM WHICH CAUSE MORE OFTEN WE PUT YOU AIR. AND AT THE POINT WHERE WE'RE AT NOW WE HAVE SORT OF POLITICAL PROCESS THAT WILL BE I TECHNOLOGY TO DO WITH HERE. SO THAT WAS THAT'S A WAY TO THINK ABOUT IT BUT EVERY CITY EVERY PROBABLY EVERY BUSINESS HAS RP SOMETHING THAT RUNS ITS HEART OF ITS OPERATIONS. >> WHAT. >> WHAT WOULD BE THE EQUIVALENT OF ERP FOR THE FUTURE AS TO WHAT WE HAVE NOW WHAT >> IT'S IT'S IT'S A SIMILAR. JUST JUST AN UPGRADE THAT AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO NOT HAVE A NEW YORK, IS NOT GOING TO LOOK VASTLY DIFFERENT TO THE. IT WILL LOOK DIFFERENT TO HOW WE INTERNALLY USE IT TO GET FROM THE SUN. IT >> WE HAVE A LOT OF ONE-OFF SYSTEMS THAT INTEGRATED TO WORK WITH. >> OUR ERP. >> SO IT WOULD OUR HOPE WAS APPROACH TO HAVING ONE. IT IS DESIGNED TO AN EARLY CALL THINGS THEY WERE ALL LARGELY A MAN A PROCESS PERSONAL TO SO THAT AND THIS IS A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR ERRORS CALCULATIONS. ♪ A NEW LOOK FOR SOMETHING HANDLE BE MUCH MORE AUTOMATED THAN WHAT WE HAVE. >> BUT BECAUSE OF TERM SORT OF PIECED TOGETHER. IT'S WHAT ♪ WE HAVE NEW RELEASE AT THAT DOES IT ALL IS ABLE TO SORT OF. ALLOW THEM TO A CENTRALIZED EFFORT ALL THE DIFFERENT. SO WHILE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IT. >> IT IS IS THE ERP A SPECIFIC PROGRAM OR IS IT LIKE THE OVERARCHING THAT ALL THE SPECIFIC PROGRAMS FEED INTO AS LIKE THE MOTHER BOARD OF OVERARCHING ALL OK SO IT'S IT'S THE MAIN SYSTEM. IT'S A BIG KILL THIS WELL. YOU KNOW BECAUSE. >> RIGHT NOW WE HAVE OTHER THINGS THAT WE ARE TRYING TO GET DOT. I DON'T WHAT MY BOARD THINGS BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE GIVE CITY MANAGER SOME KIND OF VOTE IDEA ON IS ERP SYSTEM IS THAT SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO TODAY. CAN HAPPEN FISCAL YEAR I DON'T KNOW I MEAN IF YOU WE ASK IS ANYWHERE BETWEEN ONE AND 6 MILLION DOLLARS AND THAT WE ALREADY HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A SHORT FALL WE HAVE APD THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE WE HAVE WATER CONTROL STRUCTURES THAT NEED TO BE DONE IN IOS IAN. >> PARKS MAINTENANCE BUILDING IN PUBLIC WORKS PHASE 2 IN. >> TRASH TRANSFER STATION, THERE'S A LOT OF REALLY BIG BIG BIG THINGS ON OUR PLATE IN THE NEAR FUTURE. >> MORE IMPORTANT FOCUSES OF YOUR GOVERNMENT TO GET ALL OF THOSE THINGS GOING FOR COMMUNITY, NOR ARE WE ASKING YOU TO REPLACE ONE THAT YOU HAVE AS A PRIORITY BUT THIS IS PRIORITY. WHAT WE'RE SAYING OUR EXCLUSIVE THIS IS GOING TO LEAD TO A DECISION. WE WANT PUT IT TO GET OUT OF STARTED PROCESS. HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE THAT CHOICE. BUT RIGHT NOW, YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO MAKE THAT EVEN CHOICE. SOMETHING OF THIS SIZE FINANCIALLY WE CAN'T DO WITHOUT YOUR. A POOL. WE'RE GOING TO CAUSE US SOME POINT IN TIME GET ALL THAT DEVELOPMENT YOU WILL HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE THAT DURING THE SUMMER YOU KNOW WHY YOU'RE MAKING DECISIONS BUT. IT WILL THERE. IT WILL COST YOU MORE MONEY. STAY ON THE NOT BODE TOO WELL AS AND GOING TO A NEW SYSTEM THAT WILL PERFORM BETTER WHEN YOUR USE IT. >> IF I MIGHT POP IN FOR I THINK IT WILL BE REALLY IMPORTANT FOR AN INVESTMENT OF THIS TYPE TO HAVE AN R A Y. >> WHAT KIND OF EFFICIENCY WILL WEAKEN IN MY MIND THAT TRANSLATE INTO HOW DO WE MODERATE HEADCOUNT OVER TIME AS REPLACING MANUAL PROCESSES WITH AUTOMATED PROCESSES. ALSO I KNOW FROM MY TIME AND HIGH-TECH THAT CORRECTING ERRORS IS A VERY COSTLY PROCESS. SO WHAT KIND OF A PHYSICIAN'S SCENES DO WE GAIN BECAUSE WE REDUCE OUR RATES AND PEOPLE RUNNING AROUND TRYING TO FIX THAT AND WHAT KIND OF IMPROVEMENT CAN WE SEE AND SERVICE LEVELS TO THE PUBLIC. YOU KNOW WHEN THEY GET ONE ANSWER FROM ONE DEPARTMENT AND A DIFFERENT ANSWER FROM ANOTHER DEPARTMENT YOU KNOW WE CAN IT'S HARD TO QUANTIFY THAT IN TERMS OF CUSTOMER SATISFACTION BUT THAT'S COSTLY US IT'S COSTLY TO OUR RESIDENTS. SO I TOTALLY GET THE NEED AN AFFECTIVE ERP IN MY MIND I KIND OF A QUIET. TO THOSE AUTOMATED PATIENT RECORDS, YOU KNOW THE KIND OF A FISSION SEE IMPROVEMENT AND CARE HAVING THAT INFORMATION AUTOMATED SO IT CAN BE EASILY SHARED AND CUSTOMERS CAN ACCESS IT. I DEFINITELY SEE THE NEED FOR THIS BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SEE SOME KIND OF AN OUR ALLY AND SERVICE LEVEL IMPROVEMENT TO BE ABLE TO JUSTIFY THAT YOU SAY THAT WITHOUT A VALUE PROPOSITION FRONT THOUGH THEY'RE QUANTIFIED AND THAT THAT THE ONLY REASON I BROUGHT UP. >> THE QUESTION OF THE FIRST PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS. SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE PART BUDGET CONVERSATION AS WE PLANNED THIS YEAR'S BUDGET. BECAUSE I DO CONSIDER IT I THINK IT'S SOUNDING LIKE WE ALL CONSIDERED AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF THE PUZZLE. WE'RE FAR FROM BEING ABLE TO REALLY VALUE WITH JUDGE IT TO GET THE ARE ALWAYS WANT TO MAKE SURE WAS PART OF THIS CONSIDERATION BECAUSE THAT'S AND SEE SAID. THESE NUMBERS ARE FLUID. >> THEY CAN GO CAN ALSO GO UP NEED TO JUST MAKE SURE WE'RE INCLUDING ALL PIECES WHEN WHEN WE ALWAYS TOGETHER AND TO OPEN TO A BUDGET THAT'S ALL. >> MADAM MAYOR JUST REALLY QUICK. I HAVE. LUNCHEON ON MY CALENDAR LIKE TAKING. I'D LIKE TO GET A FEEL FROM STAFF AND THE BOARD WHERE WE ADAM THIS PROCESS OR DO I NEED TO. CANCEL MY PARTICIPATION THERE I DIE MAKE IT LEAST WHERE IS YOU YEAH SO REALLY ALL WHERE A FEW MORE. >> YEAH MORE QUESTIONS I DON'T WEAR. >> BREAK FOR LUNCH, I REALLY DIDN'T WE'RE GOING TO GET MUCH ANYTHING LEFT BUT SOMETHING SOMEBODY SAYS WHAT TIMES THEY'RE TOO I HAVE NOTHING MORE SOMETHING WASN'T IT 42 >> YEAH I I UNDERSTAND THE NEED OF THIS BRP SYSTEM. BUT AT THE SAME TIME. IT SOUNDS. IT SOUNDS LIKE AN NEED SLASH WANT. WE HAVE. >> WANT TO GO THROUGH THIS OVERALL IS NOT PROCESS. IT IS A BET HELP EVERYONE EVERYTHING THAT THEY DO. HAVING IT GO THROUGH EVERY SAYS THOUGH THAT YOU HAVE IT'S GOING TO EVERY OF IT YOU NEED WITH TODAY SAY ON THE PERSON THAT CONTINUE THE WAY WE'RE GOING I UNDERSTAND THAT BUT I'M WOLF. >> I'M QUESTIONING IF THE DOLLAR INVESTMENT MEANS TO START THIS YEAR AS OPPOSED TO WAITING A YEAR BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY BEEN STATED THAT THINGS ARE GOING TO BE A LITTLE DICEY THIS YEAR, ESPECIALLY WITH THE LARGE PROJECTS ON THE TABLE THAT'S ALL I WAS ALLUDING BEFORE MAKE THAT DECISION WHAT DOING NOW AND BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE SAY RIGHT WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR NOT RIGHT NOW IS THE PLANNING THE COST OF PLANNING STARTED THE PLANNING PROCESS IT WILL BE MULTI-YEAR. >> I WOULD SAY AT LEAST 3 MAYBE 5 YEAR WORD ASKING TO START THE PLANNING AND JUST TO ADDRESS THE WANT AS FAR AS NEED ACTUALLY COMING ACROSS THINGS THAT ARE NO LONGER SUPPORT IT WITH OUR SYSTEM IS SO OLD. WE ACTUALLY HAD TO MAKE A CHANGE TO OUR CREDIT CARD PROCESSING BECAUSE WE WERE TOLD THAT THAT WAS NO LONGER GOING TO BE SUPPORTED. ENDED UP AND THAT THAT NOW BEEN SELECTED. COMING BACK AND SAYING OH NO WE'RE GOING TO. WHEN WE START RUNNING INTO THINGS LIKE THAT AND THAT'S THAT'S PROBLEMATIC FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. >> GOING THROUGH CHANGES OF SOFTWARE IN PROGRAMMING LIKE THIS OF THIS MAGNITUDE. ICY TRACK IT ALL OVER AGAIN. SO I'M VERY CAUTIOUS ABOUT IT AND I REALLY HOPE THAT AS THIS GOES FORWARD THROUGH THE PLANNING THAT WE DO SEE THAT RETURN ON THE INVESTMENT WE DO SEE HOW MUCH TIME IS STAFF GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND TO LEARN A WHOLE NEW SYSTEM BECAUSE TO ME THAT IS AN EXPENSE THAT NEEDS QUANTIFY TO FIGURE OUT BECAUSE IT'S PART OF DOING BUSINESS THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE CAN GO TO THIS NEW SYSTEM. THERE'S A LOT A LOT OF UNANSWERED AND I GET THAT IT'S COMING FORWARD, I RESERVATIONS BASED ON WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE DISCUSSION THAT WE'RE HAVING. SOME SHORTFALLS THAT NOW IS THE TIME WERE YEAR THAT'S SO WHAT LOOK FORWARD TO THOSE FURTHER DISCUSSION. >> I JUST WANTED TO WEIGH IN THE NIGHT I I SUPPORT. THIS BECAUSE TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE QUEUE AND AND YES THAT IF YOU HAVE TO DO WITH EVERYTHING MANUALLY IT'S THAT'S WHY IT'S TAKING SO DARN LONG ENDURE. >> BY THE TIME IT COMES TO. >> I POINT ISIS CHANGED AND YOU KNOW, IT'S ANTIQUATED SO YOU KNOW EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE YOU MENTIONED I THINK MEDICAL, YOU KNOW THEY THEY HAVE EVERYTHING CONNECT, I WANT A PRESCRIPTION OR WHATEVER AND AND THEY THEY CAN CONNECT TO ANYBODY OUT THERE THEY DON'T NO LONGER HAVE TO PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL EVERYBODY'S. >> ARE FACTS. YEAH, I'M I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS BUT AGREEING COMMISSIONER LANGDON YOU JUST TO HAVE SOME FIGURES THERE BUT ULTIMATELY IT. >> NEEDS BE DIET IT'S A BIG CALL FALL, BUT YOU KNOW WE HAVE TO GET INTO. YOU KNOW THEY ARE 2024. OK DO WE HAVE OTHER DIFFERENT QUESTIONS, LET'S MOVE IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION. NO ACTUALLY I'M SORRY LAYER ON HAVE. >> THOUGHT HE WAS NEXT FOR HIS QUESTION SINCE THAT WAS JUST HANGING UP THERE. >> SO THIS SURTAX. >> I'LL SKIP THAT ONE. THE FINANCIAL SUPPORT FOR COMMUNITY PROJECTS. YMCA BUILDING FOR KINGS PLASTIC. I KNOW YOU TOUCHED ON VERY VERY QUICKLY IN SHORT IN YOUR PRESENTATION, I'M LOOKING TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE AND. >> HOW MUCH OF AN ASK WHAT WE TELL ME MORE. >> YEAH OF THE WIND IS PROPERTY $1000. FOR FOOTBALL AND THEY HAVE. WE HAVE THE STATE LEVEL EVENTS OF THE COUNTY LEVEL WE DO KNOW THAT ASK OF US AS OF YET DEPENDING WHAT HAPPENED THAT THOSE 2 LEVELS WILL COME BACK TO YOU AND ASK YOU. >> THERE IS A NEED FOR YOU TO PROVIDE. JUST AS FOR THE LINES. >> SO IF I MAY JUST IN CHECK >> SO. >> I THINK OUR ROLE. >> IS TO HELP FACILITATE THAT FUNDING IT MAY OR MAY NOT RESULT IN A BUDGET ITEM >> YEAH, I WHERE FIRST. RESERVE MY COMMENTS ON I MEAN TO THE PILE ON A LITTLE BIT WITH THAT THAT'S AGAIN PART OF 4 I SEE IT PART OF THE BUDGET DISCUSSION. THERE ARE SOME HARD DECISIONS TO MAKE WHILE WE ALL APPRECIATE THE INCREDIBLE VALUE OR NONPROFIT SPRING TO THIS CITIZENS AND THEY SHOULD NOT BE DISCOUNTED OR DISMISSED FOR LESLIE. WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT THE MALL. >> AND AND AND. >> YOU WEAR OR DOLLARS GOING TO GO SO WE'LL TRY TO DO THE BEST FOR THE MOST WITH REGARD TO IT. WHAT LET'S FACE IT EVERYTHING'S PRETTY MUCH ON THE TABLE AND YOU KNOW NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED SO. YEAH, I COULD OFF OLD ARE. HOLDER COMMENTS AND OUR OPINIONS BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT I THINK THAT. YOU'LL 2 THE JOB YOU WERE ALL HIRED TO DO WHICH IS BRING US BASED ON THAT CONVERSATION SURE HEARING HERE BUDGET BACK TO US THAT ALLEN SAYS THAT CONSIDERS ALL THE COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS AND IDEAS AND TREPIDATION SEND ALL THAT AND THEN WE CAN SORT OF WORK ON IT. AS A BODY I THINK WE NEED TO BE A LITTLE CAREFUL THAT WE DON'T START TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THIS IN TOW WE ALLOW. CITY STAFF DO THEIR THING AND THEN WE CAN KIND THAT WORK AT BECAUSE I MEAN EVERYBODY CAN SIT HERE AND CHERRY PICK A BUDGET TO DEATH. AND THAT'S NOT IN MY OPINION, THE RIGHT PROCESS HERE. THAT'S WHAT YOU ALL PAID TO DO AND I THINK YOU DO IT REAL WELL, AND I THINK YOU KNOW WHERE WE NEED TO BE AT AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO AND WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO WHAT SACRED WHAT'S NOT. AND YOU CAN BRING THIS BACK SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WORK WITH AND THEN. WE PUSH AND SHOVE A LITTLE BUT I THINK YOU KNOW. WOULD BE IMPROVED, I THINK TO LIKE START TO INTO DEEP SOME OF THINGS RIGHT NOW SO. >> IT'S TEMPTING OVER SAME TIME IF I MAY. OUR JOB IS TO ALSO GIVE HIM GUIDANCE ON HOW TO PREPARE THAT BUDGET. >> IN. >> I'M I'M SORRY IF IT WERE ALREADY RECOGNIZING THE FACT THAT WE ARE 3 MILLION PASSPORT MINE IS SHORT. THE EDWARD TAXES COMING IN I KNOW THERE'S MORE REVENUES UP AGAIN. BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT US AS A GOVERNMENT ARE REQUIRED TO DO. >> THIS TO ME EVEN THOUGH IT'S. A POSSIBLE $500,000 ASK FOR LESS OR MORE. IT'S IS NOT REALLY OUR ROLE GIVEN EVERYTHING ON THE GOVERNMENT'S 0.18 AND WHAT YOUR PROPENSITY FOR UNDERSTATEMENT. >> I'M GUESSING PROBABLY GOT THAT. >> AND I THINK THEY HEAR US. >> JUST KEEP IN MIND OVER 200 DAY CARE SLOTS RIGHT THERE WITH THIS PROJECT AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT. QUALITY OF LIFE AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SUPPORTING OUR FAMILIES THAT'S GOT TO FACTOR INTO OUR DECISION-MAKING >> TO SAY ANYTHING MORE DOES IT TO BOARD. >> IT WOULD BE. IT WOULD BE >> TO SUPPORT IT IF SOMEONE BUILDING BUILDING YOUR BACKYARD, COFFEE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT IS GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THE PROGRAMS FOR THE CHILDREN SEE IT IN EVERY ONE OF THE USE THAT AND YOU SAY WHAT I KIT BOND TO TO GIVE YOU NOT SIT ON KNOWLEDGE RESULTED IN YOUR BACKYARD. THE VALUE OF IT. THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO COMPETE I ALREADY AS WE GO THROUGH THIS AND WE TALK ABOUT WHAT IS WHAT IS IN THIS WE DON'T HAVE A MASCOT FOR THE NEW TODAY. >> AND TO STAY IN OF 6 MONTH WITH A FEW MINUTES ABOUT TO SAY. >> OR WE NEEDED DO WITH THEM BEING THERE. THIS IS NEW ALONG THE WAY THINGS SO THAT YOU WILL HAVE A TRUE WHEN WE COME BACK AND DO YOU REMEMBER, HE SAID OH YEAH, I THAT WE ABOUT THAT I WOULD LEAVE HOME, KNOW THAT WE THOUGHT AWARE OF IT WE JUST MAKING YOU AWARE OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO THAT COULD BE FINANCIAL LEVERAGING OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY BECAUSE A GOOD WAY TO ABSOLUTELY BUT. >> PEOPLE'S MONEY ALSO YEARS TOO CAN I JUST WANTED TO BE. I ASKED THE QUESTION IS TO WHAT IS THIS ABOUT I APPRECIATE THE ANSWER BUT I'M ALSO GETTING NEW FOREWARNING I AM VERY HESITANT ABOUT THAT WE'RE WE'RE THAT IS THAT REALLY GOOD WITH THAT AND THANK GOD. >> I LIKE THE FACT THAT IT'S ON THEIR JOB IT OUT BECAUSE I WE WENT TO TALLAHASSEE I THINK THE QUESTION WE GOT BACK WAS. WAS NEXT YEAR'S LAST YEAR'S THE QUESTION THAT WE GOT BACK WAS ALWAYS ONE U CONTRIBUTING OR OTHERWISE THINGS SOURCES YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE IT ON THE LIST I DON'T DEAL WITH BALLOT TO BE ASKING SOMEBODY FOR SOMETHING IF YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE IT ON YOUR OWN PRIORITY. DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE GOING TO TAKE MONEY FROM ROAD AND DRAINAGE AND PUT IT ON YOUR MUCH IT HAS TO BE. WE SAW THERE ARE GOING TO AND THE IMPORTANT AND AS A COMMISSIONER LANGDON SAID. >> THERE IS A REAL NEED FOR THE DAY CARE HERE. >> AND THAT ALSO ART THAT'S YOUR REVENUES GOING OUTSIDE BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE A CHILD IN DAYCARE IN A DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITY AND YOU PICK THAT THEY CAN UP THERE THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND YOUR MONEY COULD YOU GO SHOPPING THERE WIRED YOU'RE IN THAT AREA LET'S WHAT I DID SO SO BALANCED YEAH SO. >> I'M JUST IT'S JUST OUT THERE IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT TAKE ANYTHING MONEY ANYTHING ELSE. BUT I APPRECIATE IT BEING ON THE AND THERE'S LOT DIFFERENT THAN ROLE GOVERNMENT AND I RECOGNIZE THAT ON THE BOARD AND I RECOGNIZE THAT WITH STEPH. >> SO AND IT'S NOT SAYING ONCE BOTH DIFFERENCE IS BETTER OR WORSE THAN THE OTHERS. DIFFERENCES AND WAY OF LOOKING AT THINGS. ALL RIGHT DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER I THINK DON'T WANT TO THE SUNCOAST TECHNICAL COLLEGE IS IT ALONG THE SAME LINES WHERE THEY'RE ASKING FOR CONSIDERATIONS FROM THE STATE AND THE FEDS AND THE SCHOOL BOARD AND THERE MAY BE SOMETHING ON THE TABLE FOR US IN THIS BUDGET CYCLE AND CITY MANAGER WE DO HAVE DOCTORED TO PELLA. >> AUDIENCE YES, IT NOT GOING GO OUT OUT. >> COME OUT OF THE 2 WE WANT POINT BUDGET OVER YEAR NOW WHAT THEY DID WHERE LAST WITH COMMUTERS. AND THEN THERE ARE WAYS IN WHICH THE SCHOOL BOARD WITHOUT BELOW LAST SUMMER AND GOT THEIR APPROVAL TO WORK WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT. >> TO MOVE FORWARD ON THE PROJECT BENEFIT TO THE CITY OF NORTH PORT IS THEIR ABILITY TO ADD OF HEALTH CARE PROGRAMS THAT WILL HELP HOSPITAL THAT ARE COMING TO THIS AREA HAVE THE PROPER STAFFING TO FILL THOSE JOBS. IS TOO WITH THE A LAWN FTC AND THEN HAVE THAT I STAYING HERE IN PORT WORK IN PORT. >> OF THAT WE HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN THEIR SUCCESS AND WHEN WE AS A GOVERNMENT HAPPY I WAS IN DIFFERENT PLACES SUCH AS THE STATE OR WE HAVE THE CHANCE FOR FEDERAL GRANTS. SO WHATEVER WE DO MAKING SURE THAT WE CHAMPIONED OVER THE WILL DIFFERENT FOR IMPROVEMENTS WELL YOU ARE A NATURAL PART THE PROCESS. AS WITH THE YMCA WE HAVE NOT A TO ANYONE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT AT THAT POINT IN TIME IT. BUT IF IT COMES TO THAT POINT IN TIME. WE HAVE TO SUPPORT A PARTNER WAS REALLY SOMETHING TO OUR COMMUNITY. WE BELIEVE THAT YES TO FOR THINGS YOU CAN DECIDED THAT DEPENDING ON WHAT IT IS THAT WE >> FORWARD TO THAT CONVERSATION, THANK YOU OKAY. AND INFECTIONS HAVE OKAY. WE HAVE ANOTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT PRESENT IT. BUT TODAY. OKAY. >> DO YOU ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU NEED AT THIS POINT. >> THE HAVE ONE ANSWER WANT TO CIRCLE BACK. >> AND WHY DO IT AT PERCENTAGE INCREASES IN THE OPERATING. EXPENDITURES AND THAT CHANGES TO THE GENERAL FUND FROM THIS YEAR LAST YEAR. LAST YEAR I USE 5%. THIS YEAR LOOKING AT WE'VE BEEN TRENDING HIGHER THAN THAT. IT STRUCK WITH A 10%. >> HOPEFULLY ON ALL RIGHT. >> OKAY SO WHAT DID YOU SAY THAT WAS LAST YEAR DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING ELSE. NOW OKAY. THIS WAS LIKE BREAK THE ICE TIGHT. WORKSHOP IN THE BAND-AID OFF. I SHOULD SAY OKAY. ALL RIGHT DO WE HAVE ANY. >> WELL YOU WANTED TO ANYBODY COULD BE MAKING COMMENTS. I MEAN ONLY DURING THESE THINGS WE SAY. YES, WE WANT TO DO THIS. YES FOCUSED ON THAT NO WE DON'T WANT YOU HAVE ANY USUALLY THESE ARE DONE NEED. A WAS SHOT CLEAR DIRECTION. >> YOU KNOW WE WE HAD SOME QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP AND AND I THINK. A LOT OF THOSE 4 WILL COME BACK WE'LL GET ANSWERS SOME OF THIS STUFF >> CORRECT. >> FEEL THAT IN MY FEEDBACK AND SO RIGHT QUESTIONS DISCUSSION SO RIGHT. I HAVE NOTHING TO ADD >> WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. ANYTHING ELSE WHEN A PAIR. >> DIDN'T JUST I WILL DEFINITELY 6 ITEMS FOLLOW-UP AND NEED TO OCCUR. THERE'S A CONVERSATION WAS ABOUT YOU HAD A BUDGET WORKSHOP TO MORE THIS IS RIGHT US YOU DO HAVE MULTIPLE READINGS THAT ARE UPCOMING YES. THEY'RE SCHEDULED UP IF THERE ARE COUNTER THIS WAS JUST THE INITIAL CONVERSATION WHERE WE ARE BEGINNING THE PROCESS. I WE WORK CLOSELY ON THAT LAWN YOU HAVE SAID THINGS THAT YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT IT WAS WE WILL REACT TO THOSE THAT WE DON'T WANT TO START OFF GOING IN THE WRONG WHICH IS CONVERSATION AND IT IS GOING RIGHT NOW. >> WE'VE GOT INTO TO JUST REALLY MAKE ONE COMMENT IS IT'S. IT FROM MY PURSE AND SIM BUT I DO SO WE'VE GOT. PUT TOGETHER THIS PROCESS, I MEAN IT'S ARE KILLING EVERY SINGLE AND. THE HARD WORK AND THE EXPERTISE AND EDUCATION WILL BRING TO THIS PROCESS SHOULD WHO THAT YOU WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING THIS PROCESS THROUGH WITH YOU THIS YEAR GREEN NEW CHALLENGES THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE LAST YEAR, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT. WE'LL WORK THROUGH IT. WE CERTAINLY HAVE TALENT BASE TO DO IT WITH YOU KNOW WHEN IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE I'M WILL COME UP WITH BUDGET THAT MOST FOR THE BEST FOR THE MOST WORKS WITHIN THE RESOURCE WE'VE GOT AVAILABLE. IT ALWAYS STARTS SO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO. >> OKAY COMMISSIONER STATS DEFINITELY HAS KISSED THE BLARNEY STONE LET ME THAT HE'S ALWAYS SO GOOD GIVING THANKS AND RECOGNITION I REALLY APPRECIATE FOR THAT AND TEENS LIKE >> OKAY WE'RE ALL GOOD WITH THAT PRETTY GET THEIR SHORELINE AND I THINK YOU MAKE WHAT EFFECT ALL LUNCHEON HOMELESS TO HOME CHALMERS SO IT IS 12 '04 AND I ADJOURN THIS MEETING.