##VIDEO ID:agVYyhn5hvA## AHEAD AND SIGN YOUR CHILD UP  FOR THAT APPROPRIATE LEVEL  THERE. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE  HAVE THESE SO THAT WAY WHEN  WE'RE TEACHING A LEVEL ONE WE  DON'T HAVE KIDS THAT SHOULD  POTENTIALLY A LEVEL 2 AND  LEVEL ONE CLASS BECAUSE  THEY'RE NOT LEARNING THE  APPROPRIATE SKILLS THAT THEY  NEEDED THAT POINT IN TIME  RIGHT NOW WHEN WE'RE IN FULL  SUMMER WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE  COME BETWEEN 8.10 DEDUCE FROM  A VALUATION JUST AS YOU CAN  HEAR THE WATER SPLASHING IN  THE BACKGROUND SLIDE.  EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT ANY  DAY OF THE THAT OPEN YOU CAN  COME IN AT ANY POINT IN TIME  ENOUGH FOR SOME EVALUATIONS WE  ALWAYS HAVE A CERTIFIED SO  MUCH DOCTOR ON SITE THAT HAVE  YOUR CHILD TAKE A SWIM  ASSESSMENT.  >> FRANK THOMAS ALWAYS MANAGER  I AM HERE TODAY WITH NOW  REOPENED DIDDY MARIO TELL  PEOPLE HERE HOW LONG YOU'VE  BEEN DOING JOB, I'VE BEEN HERE  5 YES 5 YEARS EXCELLENT  EXCELLENT SO MARIO TELL PEOPLE  WHAT IT ENTAILS WHAT YOU DO.  THE PLAN IS SCHEDULED FOR  SOLID WASTE THE CITY I GO OUT  AND AGREE THE NEW RESIDENTS  TONIGHT, EDUCATE THEM ON  RECYCLE EXCELLENT SOUNDS  INTERESTING VERY SO MARIO WHAT  DO YOU FIND INSIDE THE  RECYCLING SHOULDN'T BE THERE  SO LET'S TRY TO TELL THE  PEOPLE HOW TO RECYCLE MOST  COMMON THING I FIND FRANCIS  PLASTIC BAGS.  >> SO START TO NOT RECYCLABLE  I FIND JUST POSTING THE  CONTAINER OR THE BAD THE  RECYCLE WITH HIM AND MISSION  LOOK INTO THAT'S RIGHT INSIDE  THE BLUE CONTAINERS. AND THEY  SHOULD BE YOU TAKEN BACK TO  THE GROCERY STORE OR TOSS IN  THE TRASH EVERY YOU SEE A LOT  OF RECYCLING INSIDE THE  CONTAINERS OF I COME ACROSS A  LOT WANT TO DO THAT SO.  >> OKAY, SO IF YOU HAVE ANY  QUESTIONS YOU CAN ALWAYS LOOK  AT OUR WEBSITE WW DOT NORTH  PORT FLORIDA DOT GOV SLASH  SOLID WASTE.  ♪ >> I'M STACEY LASALLE AND THE  EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT  COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT AND I'M GOING TO  BE TALKING ABOUT HAVING AN  EVACUATION PLAN IT'S A POINT  HAVE AN EVACUATION PLAN AHEAD  OF TIME AND IT'S VERY  IMPORTANT TO WRITE IT DOWN  BECAUSE THAT WAY YOU HAVE IT  SOMEWHERE PRESENT EVERYBODY IN  YOUR FAMILY CAN SEE IT AND  KEEP IT FRESH IN THEIR MINDS  AND YOU WANT TO ALSO SHARE IT  WITH PEOPLE IN YOUR FAMILY OR  YOUR NEIGHBORS SO THAT THEY  KNOW WHAT YOUR PLANS ARE AHEAD  OF TIME AND HOW TO GET A HOLD  OF YOUR WAY TO LOOK FOR YOU  AFTER A DISASTER FOR YOUR  EVACUATION YOU SHOULD HAVE  MULTIPLE ROUTES TO GET TO  LOCATION. YOU'RE PLANNING TO  GO TO JUST BECAUSE TRAFFIC WAS  TRAFFIC ON 75 MIGHT BE  GRIDLOCKED COULD BE SOME VERY  GOOD BACK ROADS TO GET TO  WHERE YOU'RE  ♪ GOING THEM  >> TODAY TUESDAY DECEMBER  SECOND 2024 CITY CHAMBERS AND  MICHAEL CITY COMMISSION  WORKSHOP MEETING TO ORDER.  COMMISSIONERS PRESENT ARE  COMMISSIONER DUVAL  COMMISSIONER LANGDON THEIR  STILLS MAYOR VICE MAYOR AND  COMMISSIONER PETRO IS ABSENT.  ALSO PRESENT CITY MANAGER  FLETCHER FROM TERM CITY  ATTORNEY GOLDEN CITY CLERK  FOULS.  >> AND WE HAVE PACKED THEIR  DEPUTY CHIEF MORALES. CHIEF  TITUS. AND LET'S  >> WHY SHOULD CALL ON IN WHICH  >> SKIP THE DEPUTY CITY  MANAGER LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE  IF HE WOULD BE A UNITED STATES  AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC  FOR WHICH ONE NATION IT WAS A  LITTLE LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR  ALL. SHOULD BE CLEAR DO WE  HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.  >> JUST ONE. ROBIN THOMAS SENT  >> GOOD MORNING. IT IS MY HOPE  THAT WHEN YOU WERE DISCUSSING  THE DEBT MANAGEMENT POLICY AND  POSSIBLE INCLUSION IN THE  MARCH 2025 ELECTION THAT USE  THAT ARE SPLITTING IT INTO 2  PARTS. THIS IS WHAT THE  CITIZENS HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR  SINCE THE BEGINNING  ADDITIONALLY, WITHIN THE DEBT  MANAGEMENT POLICY THERE ARE  STILL ITEMS THAT NEED FOR THE  RESTRAINTS VERIFICATION YS ONE  EXAMPLE OF THIS WOULD BE THE  INTER FUN BORROWING PLEASE DO  NOT ASSUME THAT YOUR  INTERPRETATIONS ARE SUFFICIENT  ENOUGH TO SATISFY CONSISTENT  RATE. IT NEEDS TO BE IN  WRITING NOT EXPLAINED AWAY  WITH WORKSHOPS AND PUBLIC  INFORMATION GATHERINGS. THANK  YOU.  >> AND THAT'S IT. UNDER  GENERAL BUSINESS NUMBER TODAY.  24 DASH 0, 5, 3, 0, DISCUSSION  AND POSSIBLE DIRECTION  REGARDING THE DRAFT FACILITY  LEASE POLICY CITY OWN  FACILITIES. SO THE MANAGER  THIS IS  >> THANK YOU. MISTER THIS AND  I KNOW THAT WE'RE BRINGING  BACK A CONVERSATION 2002. WE  HAVE OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF  PUBLIC WORKS MS. COME DOWN GO  TO IT'S A QUESTIONS THANK YOU.  JUST FOR THE  >> COMMISSIONER PICTURE JOE  INGLES. GOOD MORNING SHOW IS  FOR PUBLIC  >> WE'RE TALKING TODAY ABOUT  THIS FACILITY, THE DRAFT  FACILITY LEASE POLICY. CROWNE  TO THE CITY HAS MULTIPLE  AGREEMENTS WITH MANY DIFFERENT  ORGANIZATIONS. THROUGHOUT THE  THIS FACILITY, LEAST POLICY IS  REALLY ABOUT THAT INSIDE  OFFICE SPACE. IT DOES NOT  APPLY TO TRACKS OF LAND CELL  TOWERS UTILITY CONTRACTS  ENCROACHMENTS IN THE RIGHT OF  WAY THIRD-PARTY CAPITAL  INVESTMENT SO IF WE HAD  SOMEBODY.  >> PROVIDE THE CAPITAL TO  CONSTRUCT THE BUILDING ON OUR  WAY AND THAT WOULD NOT FALL  WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THIS  POLICY.  >> AND ALSO IT DOES NOT REALLY  TO DAILY RENTAL SPACE.  >> PARKS AND RECREATION  RECREATION CENTER'S SPACE.  DIFFERENT ON.  ♪ ♪ >> SO IS THE BACKGROUND WE  HAVE.  >> LEASES CURRENTLY.  >> THAT VARYING.  >> RESPONSIBILITIES. CLEANING  UTILITIES WHO TAKES CARE  VARIES GREATLY THROUGHOUT  THESE AGREEMENTS. WE ALSO HAVE  APPROXIMATELY HALF OF THESE  AGREEMENTS UTILIZE A PRICE PER  SQUARE FOOT WHICH IS $9.50 TO  DETERMINE THE RENTAL RATE,  HOWEVER, OTHERS JUST USE I'M  NUMBER THAT WAS NEGOTIATED  OUTSIDE OF USING THAT METRIC.  IN PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS,  STAFF WAS DIRECTED TO DEVELOP  A POLICY TO ASSIST CONSISTENCY  ACROSS THE BOARD OF HOW WE  MANAGE THESE LEASES.  >> TO EVALUATE WHAT WOULD  CONSTITUTE OR WHAT  ORGANIZATION SHOULD RECEIVE A  BELOW MARKET RATE LEASE  AGREEMENT AND TO REVIEW  RESTRICTIONS ON SPACE FOR  POLITICAL OR RELIGIOUS  ACTIVITIES. SO WE'VE BEEN  WORKING CLOSELY OFFICE THE  CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. AND  WE'VE SET SOME GOALS FOR THIS  POLICY. WE'RE PROVIDING A  FRAMEWORK FOR MANAGING  FACILITY LEASES THAT IS FAIR  TRANSPARENT AND ACCOUNTABLE.  WE'RE ENSURING THAT THE  RETURNS TO THE CITY ARE THERE.  REASONABLE AND ARE IN THE BEST  INTEREST OF THE CITY. AND  WE'RE ABIDING BY ALL  APPLICABLE CODES LAWS POLICIES  WITH RESPECT TO CITY-OWNED.  PROPERTY LEE'S US. AS I  MENTIONED WE HAVE A MYRIAD OF  LEASES THIS IS JUST A SNAPSHOT  OF YOU KNOW SOME OF OUR MORE  FREQUENTLY DISCUSSED POLICE  US. THIS PROVIDES AN OVERVIEW  OF THE COMPARISON OF THE  SQUARE FOOTAGE OF SPACE THAT  IS LEAST COMPARED TO THE  MONTHLY RENTS THAT IS PAID BY  THAT ORGANIZATION AND YOU CAN  SEE THAT VARIES GREATLY. SO AS  WE BEGIN THIS DRAFT POLICY THE  FIRST THING WE LOOK AT IS WHAT  PROPERTY IS AVAILABLE. 4  WEISE. CITY ON PROPERTY IS  SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING  BEFORE CONSIDERING PRESLEY'S  OBVIOUSLY CITY SPACE FOR CITY  BUSINESS TAKES PRIORITY. NEXT  IS CITY-FUNDED AGENCIES BOARDS  AND COMMITTEES MAKING SURE  THAT THEY HAVE SPACE IS  NEEDED. AGENCIES WITH FEE FOR  SERVICE AGREEMENTS AND THEN  ALL OTHER LEASES SO WHEN THAT  PRIORITY. WE WOULD EVALUATE  SPACE THAT'S AVAILABLE TO  DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THAT  SPACE WOULD BE APPLICABLE FOR  OUTSIDE PLEASE. AGAIN ARE ALSO  THE ONE THING TO CONSIDER IS  SOME PROPERTY MAY HAVE  RESTRICTIONS BASED UPON HOW  FUNDED SUCH AS TRASHING CHOIR  MENTS THAT WOULD NOT ALLOW US  TO POTENTIALLY MAKE REVENUE  OFF OF THOSE PROPERTIES. SO  THAT WE NEED TO BE CONSIDERED  TOO. RESPONSIBILITIES I  MENTIONED WE HAVE VERY LEASES  AND IN SOME CASES THE CITY  CLEANS THIS FACE IN SOME  PLACES WITH 10 DUCKLINGS TO  SPACE IN SOME CASES.  >> THE CITY TAKES FOR THE  TRASH. WE'RE LOOKING TO MAKE  THIS MORE STANDARDIZED LINE  WITH WHAT YOU WOULD SEE IN A  NORMAL MARKET. SO IN THIS  CASE, THE CITY WOULD ACT THIS  ONLY A MORE WE CAN DO ALL THE  PAPERWORK MAKING SURE THAT THE  DOCUMENTATION WAS CRACKED AND  THAT OTHERWISE AGREES THE CITY  WOULD ONLY MANAGE THEIR  EXTERIORS SPACE AND THE COMMON  SPACES, THE CITY WOULD NOT BE  ENTERING INTO THE DEDICATED  SPACE FOR THE TENANT. THE  TENET WOULD  >> WOULD MAINTAIN THE SPACE  DEDICATED TO THEM IN WAYS OF.  >> YOU KNOW CLEANING OUR  VISION TRASH UTILITIES WHERE  APPLICABLE AND WE CAN SEPARATE  THAT OUT. NOW MAINTENANCE  THINGS SO THE HVAC. ANNUAL  PAINTING OR THINGS OF THAT  NATURE WOULD STILL BE THE  CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO  MAINTAIN THE APPLE OVER THE  BUILDING. THE TENANT WOULD  ALSO HOLD INSURANCE FOR THE  AGREEMENT AND THEY WOULD  ASSUME ANY OPERATING COST FOR  THAT SPACE. WE'RE NOT GOING TO  BE YOU KNOW HANDING OUT  MARKETING OR ANYTHING FOR  THEIR OPERATIONS. AS THE  DEFAULT LEASES WOULD GO TO THE  MARKET VALUE. WE WOULD  DETERMINE MARKET VALUE BASED  EITHER ON AN APPRAISAL OR I'M  NO COMMON PRACTICES SUCH AS  ONCE EVERYONE ELSE CHARGING WE  DO HAVE A REAL ESTATE  COORDINATOR SHE WORKS CLOSELY  WITH CONTRACTED REAL ESTATE  BROKER THAT WOULD HELP US  DETERMINE MARKET VALUE WITHOUT  THE COST OF AN APPRAISAL BUT  WERE NECESSARY WE WOULD OBTAIN  AN APPRAISAL. AND MARKET VALUE  WOULD BE REVIEWED AT THE  INITIAL POLICE AND THEN AFTER  NEW RULES AS APPLICABLE WERE  NOT CONNECT BETTER EVEN FORGET  IT WE'RE GOING TO KEEP LOOKING  AT IT BECAUSE THE MARKET IS  CHANGE. THE CITY THEN COULD  ENTER INTO A DISCOUNTED LEE'S  PREVIOUS CONVERSATION  DIRECTION WAS FOR THE CITY  ONLY TO CONSIDER ENTERING INTO  A DISCOUNTED LEASE WITH A 5 OH  ONE C 3 ORGANIZATION AND OR  GOVERNMENT ENTITY. POLICE MUST  CLEARLY IDENTIFY WHAT PUBLIC  PURPOSE WOULD BE PROVIDED TO  OUR RESIDENTS FOR THIS  DISCOUNT. AND THE CITY NEEDS  TO BE PRETTY SURE THAT THIS.  GOOD OR SERVICE IS GOING TO BE  PROVIDED IN THE WAY THAT THAT  TENNANT IS REPRESENTING THIS  CURRENTLY STATES THAT WE WOULD  HAVE A 50% DISCOUNT FOR  QUALIFYING LEASES FOR 5, 1, C  3 ORGANIZATIONS AND 100%  DISCOUNT FOR GOVERNMENT  ENTITIES SUCH AS THE DMV.  THERE ARE AN ADDITIONAL LAYER  OF RESPONSIBILITIES FOR TENET  THAT RECEIVES A DISCOUNTED  LEASE AND THIS IS FOR 5, 1, C  3 ORGANIZATIONS, THEY WOULD  NEED TO PROVIDE SOME REPORTING  BACKGROUND TO SHOW THAT THEY  ARE USING THE SPACE IN THE  MANNER WITH WHICH WE EXPECTED.  SO WE'D EXPECT TO A SCHEDULE  OF THE ORGANIZATION'S BOARD OF  DIRECTORS MEETINGS MEETING  MINUTES CETERA PROOF THAT THE  ORGANIZATION SERVICES ARE  STILL AVAILABLE GOING FORWARD  AND THEN. QUANTITATIVE REPORTS  TO DEMONSTRATE WHAT THEY  ACCOMPLISHED THE PREVIOUS YEAR  TO MAKE SURE REALLY ALLIANCE  WITH WHAT THE CITY WAS  EXPECTING FROM THIS  ORGANIZATION. THIS POLICY WILL  APPLY TO ALL NEW LEASE  AGREEMENTS. AND WILL BE WITH  RENEWALS AS WELL AND ALL  AGREEMENTS WILL CONTINUE TO  COME TO THE CITY COMMISSION  FOR APPROVAL BEFORE. GOING  INTO EFFECT. SO IT'S OVERVIEW  OF THE POLICY AND WE'RE HERE  FOR QUESTIONS CONVERSATION.  COMMISSIONERS. WANT TO SHARE  SOME THOUGHTS.  >> VICE MAYOR AND SHE WROTE.  ON IT. CAN YOU GO TO POLICE  COMPARISON PAGE PLEASE. AND  THIS MAY BE A LITTLE  CLARIFICATION ON THIS. YOU'VE  GOT THE LITTLE BLUE BOXES AND  THEN YOU'VE GOT THE MONTHLY  RENT THE SQUARE FOOT OF LEITH  AREA YOU'VE GOT NUMBERS ON THE  SIDE.  >> FOR THE BLUE BOXES AND THE  NUMBERS ON THE SIDE IS THAT  THE CURRENT MARKET VALUE OF  WHAT THE PROPERTY IS WORTH,  BUT YET THEY'RE ONLY PAYING A  PORTION OF  >> YOU KNOW SARAH SO ON THE  LEFT-HAND SIDE. IT'S THE  AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOT LEASED  SPACE SO THAT'S CURRENTLY  BEING WITH US. THE VERTICAL  BLUE BOXES. SO IF YOU LOOK AT  IT A WEEK AND THEY HAVE JUST  ABOUT 2000 SQUARE FEET OF  SPACE AND THEN IF YOU THE  YELLOW LINE CORRESPONDS WITH  THE MONTHLY RENT ON THE RIGHT  HAND SIDE.  >> SO FOR A WEEKEND FOR THAT  2000 SQUARE FEET THEY'RE  PAYING ABOUT $400 A MONTH. SO  YOU CAN SEE THAT.  >> THE AMOUNT PAID.  >> HER.  >> FROM AN ORGANIZATION DOES  NOT CORRESPOND DIRECTLY TO THE  AMOUNT OF SPACE THAT THEY  HAVE. IT VARIES GREATLY.  >> I UNDERSTAND THAT BUT WHAT  I WAS TRYING TO GET AT. IS IF  THEY'VE GOT 2000 SQUARE FOOT.  BUT THEIR PAIN LIKE THAT.  >> THE 4, $600 WHERE WE'RE  AWAY THEY'RE PAYING 400 YEAH,  THEY'RE PAYING CLOSE TO 400.  WHAT IS THE MARKET VALUE ON  THAT.  >> SO.  >> LOOKING AT THAT BUILDING.  >> IN GENERAL FOR NORTH PORT  RIGHT NOW COMMERCIAL SPACE IS  ABOUT $20 A SQUARE FOOT HARBOR  THAT VARIES GREATLY IF YOU'VE  GOT IMPORTANT ONE THAT'S GOING  TO BE VERY DIFFERENT YOU KNOW  THE SENIOR CENTER BUILDING OR  SOCIAL SERVICES BUILDING SO  THEY WENT AT THIS BUILDING WE  WOULD TAKE INTO ACCOUNT.  >> THE.  >> CONDITION THE AMENITIES THE  LOCATION AND THINGS OF THAT  NATURE RIGHT NOW MOST OF OUR  FACILITIES AT THAT. ABOUT 50%  DISCOUNT FROM THE 20 YEAR AT  $9.50 FOR THIS BUILDING WE'RE  THINKING WOULD PROBABLY BE  CLOSER TO A MAYBE SOMEWHERE  BETWEEN 3, $5, A SQUARE FOOT.  SO RIGHT NOW THEY'RE NOT  PAYING SQUARE-FOOT PRICE. BUT  IF THEY WERE TOO.  >> IF THEY WERE TO PAY AT. YOU  KNOW $3 A SQUARE FOOT. AT 2000  SQUARE FEET SO THERE WILL BE  6,000. OVER THE YEAR AND THAT  IT'S DIVIDED INTO 12 MONTHLY  PAYMENTS.  >> I WHAT I DID AND THAT IS  PART OF THIS PROGRAM WAS TO  CONSOLIDATE HAVE A SEPARATE  OF. LET'S SAY 9.50 AND THEN IT  WOULD BE A. IF YOU'RE A FILE  ON C 3 YOU COULD HAVE 50% OFF  OF THAT DEPENDING ON HOW IT  WORKS SO IF YOU'RE ALREADY  ADJUSTING ACCORDING TO THE  BUILDING NOW YOU'RE DESCRIBING  THAT 9.50 IT SHOULD YOU'RE  EITHER IT'S EITHER GOING TO BE  EITHER EITHER GOING TO BE 9.50  OR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN  ADJUSTABLE RATE FOR EVERY  BUILDING THAT WENT  >> SO WE ARE PROPOSING THAT IT  WOULD BE BASED MARKET RATE IN  THE MARKET RATE WOULD VARY  DEPENDING UPON THE BUILDING.  SO WE WOULD HAVE REAL ESTATE  CORDINATOR AND OR THE COUNTRY  TO THE AGENT EVALUATE THAT  BUILDING TO DETERMINE WHAT THE  MARKET VALUE PER SQUARE FOOT  FOR THAT BUILDING WOULD BE  BASED UPON THE CONDITION OF  THE BUILDING THE LOCATION.  EXCEPT AND YOU WOULD DO A  NORMAL BUILDING WHEN YOU'RE  EVALUATING MARKET RIGHT, THEN  YOU WOULD TAKE 50% OFF OF THAT  FOR LEASES THAT QUALIFY IT  WOULD NOT BE THE SAME RATE FOR  ALL BUILDINGS. IF WE WERE TO  BUILD A BRAND NEW BUILDING  THAT WAS SUPER NICE AND  HEATHER. ALL THE COOLEST  AMENITIES IT WOULD BE  DIFFICULT TO SAY THAT THAT'S  FOR FOOTAGE PRICE SHOULD BE  THE SAME AS YOU KNOW THE OLDER  BUILDINGS THAT WE HAVE IN SOME  OTHER AREAS. SO INSTEAD OF  JUST DOING ONE RATE IT WOULD  BE BASED UPON THE MARKET VALUE  FOR THAT BUILDING.  >> AND LET'S SAY THAT WE DO  CHANGE THIS POLICY AND WE GO  FORWARD SOME OUT WHATEVER IT'S  GOING TO WHAT THEY'RE ALREADY  IN THE CURRENT LEASE.  >> THIS WOULD HAPPEN AT  RENEWAL AND OR AT THE NEXT  POLICE FOR THAT.  >> AND DO YOU HAVE ANY LEASES  OUT THERE THAT ARE IN MULTIPLE  YEARS DOWN THE ROAD WE DO HAVE  SOME THAT I THINK THE FOR THIS  MAN OUT RIGHT NOW IF I  REMEMBER OFF TOP OF MY HEAD 3  OR 4 YEARS OUT.  >> SO WE'VE YEAH WOULDN'T  AFFECT THEM TILL 4 YEARS NOW  EXACTLY WOULD BE A PHASED  PROCESS. THAT'S ALL I HAD  THERE.  >> I ONE QUICK NOTE CHIEF  TITUS REMINDED ME ABOUT IS  THIS POLICY DOES NOT INCLUDE  AIR AMBULANCE LEASE  AGREEMENTS, THOSE ARE MANAGED  TO THE FIRE MISTER LAYMAN.  >> THANK YOU  >> THAT COMMENT AND  >> I SEEM TO RECALL THAT SOME  OF THE VARIATION AND WHAT WE  WERE CHARGING WAS BASED ON THE  QUALITY OF THE SPACE. I THINK  THAT MIGHT BE WHAT YOU'RE  GETTING RATE BASED ON THE  BUILDING. BUT I THINK PART OF  THE CONVERSATION AS SOME OF  THE SPACE WAS REALLY OFFICE.  >> QUALITY.  >> SPACE LIKE IN THE SOCIAL  SERVICES BUILDING VERSUS  WAREHOUSE SPACE THAT MIGHT BE  MORE APPROPRIATE TO THE.  >> THE TENSION, YOU KNOW THE  FOOD KITCHEN.  >> WITH THAT STILL COME INTO  PLAY WOULD THAT BE ONE OF THE  FUND FUNDAMENTAL UNDER PENDANT  PENNINGS HAVING A DIFFERENT  RATE PER BUILDING.  >> YES THAT COULD BUILDING  ITSELF WOULD BE EVALUATED  BASED UPON WHAT AMENITIES THAT  HAS AND IS PROVIDING TO THE  USER.  >> SO AND SOME OF THOSE  AMENITIES JUST TO BE CLEAR OUT  SO TYPICALLY WHEN YOU'RE  LOOKING AT RENTAL SPACE.  >> WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S  PARKING AVAILABLE KIND OF IS  IT MISTER ON TIME AND HOW MUCH  CONTINUOUS SPACES AVAILABLE.  IF THERE'S ENTRANCE ON THIS  WAY HE BUILDING IS YOU KNOW  CLOSE TO 41 OR TO PARTICULAR  ACCESS. YOU WOULD LOOK AT  THOSE THINGS WHEN EVALUATING  MARKET RATE FOR A RENTAL  PROPERTY. PART OF THIS SENSE.  CURRENTLY.  >> WHAT CHARGING DIFFERENT  ORGANIZATIONS REALLY VARIES.  >> A  >> AND MAY OR MAY NOT BE BASED  ON AMENITIES. ONE OF THE  THINGS LIKE TO HAVE A SENSE OF  BEFORE WE PROCEED AS IS WHAT'S  THE DIFFERENTIAL IMPACT. I  OPEN STATION. THE CAUSE. THESE  ORGANIZATIONS REALLY PROVIDE A  LOT OF TO THE RESIDENTS OF  THIS COMMUNITY. AND IF FOR  WHATEVER REASON THROUGH NO  FAULT OF THEIR OWN. WE'RE  UNDER CHARGING TODAY WE WANT  TO GO TO MARKET RATE OR EVEN  50% OF MARKET RATE FOR A 5 OH  ONE C 3. IT COULD RESULT IN A  SIGNIFICANT JUMP. I'D LIKE TO  HAVE A SENSE WHAT  ORGANIZATIONS MIGHT.  >> THE SERIOUSLY IMPACTED BY  THIS CHANGE. SO THAT WE GIVE  SOME THOUGHT TO HOW WE MIGHT  HANDLE THAT.  >> I APPRECIATE THE  CONVERSATION SO IN EVALUATING  THE ONES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT  SPECIFICALLY WHICH IN ITS  GROUP AS WELL. MANY OF THEM  ACTUALLY ARE AT THE 9.5 OR  CLOSE TO IT. IT MAY NOT SAY SO  IN THE LEASE IT MAY NOT SAY  THAT IT WAS BASED UPON A RATE  PER SQUARE THE MATH COMES OUT  THAT IS PRETTY CLOSE. THE ONES  THAT WOULD HAVE THE BIGGEST  IMPACT OUR WEEKEND. THE PORT  ARE KILLED, HOWEVER THAT  BUILDING IS NEARING IT'S NEW  CIVIL RIGHT AND THE SENIOR  CENTER WOULD BE THAT THE 3  THAT WE SEE THE BIGGEST  IMPACTS POTENTIALLY THAT IS IF  THE COMMISSION DECIDED TO GO  WITH THE 50% OFF OF MARKET  RATE AND AGAIN. IT USERS ARE  IN A BUILDING THAT I DO NOT  BELIEVE WOULD SUPPORT THE $20.  >> PER SQUARE FOOT WE PROBABLY  BE LOOKING AT A LOWER DOLLAR  AMOUNT TO START WITH SO WE  WOULDN'T BE LOOKING FOR THEM  TO BE AT 9.50.  >> PER SQUARE FOOT IT  DEFINITELY BE JUST A GREAT  BASED UPON THAT BUILDING'S  CONDITION AND AVAILABLE  AMENITIES.  >> I'M WONDERING ALSO THERE  MIGHT BE SOME CONSIDERATION  GIVEN TO.  >> COMMUNITY IMPACT SO HOW  MIGHT WE MEASURE THAT NUMBER  OF PEOPLE SERVED. BECAUSE WHEN  I THINK ABOUT. A PANTRY AND  THE FOOD DRIVES AT THE AWAKEN  CHURCH. THOUSANDS OF FAMILIES  ARE SERVED BY THEM ON A  MONTHLY BASIS. AND AND WE  NIGHT WANT TO GET SOME  CONSIDERATION THAT.  >> SO WE WRESTLED WITH FOR  QUITE SOMETIME CITY ATTORNEY'S  OFFICE. GOOD EVALUATION FOR US  OF THIS THERE ARE SOME RESTS  WITH THE CITY DETERMINING THAT  ONE ORGANIZATION RECEIVES A  DIFFERENT HOW COMPARED TO  ANOTHER ORGANIZATION THAT THAT  MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR US  RECOMMEND THAT. YOU KNOW ED  EARLY. I DON'T KNOW IF CITY  ATTORNEY WANTS TO WEIGH IN ON  ANY OF THEIR FINDINGS AS WELL,  BUT. THAT'S HOW THIS POLICY  GOT TO BE WE LOOKED AT COULD  WE HAVE THEM DO REPORTING  COUNT NUMBERS AND VOLUNTEER  HOURS AND ALL OF THIS AND IT  GOT TO BE VERY I'M ME AND THE  POTENTIAL FOR RISK FOR THE  CITY. ANYTHING TO ADD THEY  HAVE TO WEIGH  >> YOU KNOW AS AS HE'S NOT A  CITY SPENDS MONEY. CITIZENS  TAXPAYER DOLLARS YOU NEED TO  GET JUSTIFIED THAT EXPENDITURE  SO GETTING A DISCOUNT IS THE  CITY SPENDING MONEY SO IF  YOU'RE GOING TO CREATE  CRITERIA NEEDED JUSTIFY  CRITERIA IS AND AND YOU KNOW  AND BOUGHT MY LABEL THAT.  >> EVERYBODY THE SAME ONE IT  GETS VERY DIFFICULT. YOU'RE  TALKING ABOUT THIS TIME OF  CRITERIA AND TRYING TO TEAR A  CERTAIN WAY EASIEST WAY TO DO  MOST STRAIGHTFORWARD WAY TO DO  IT IS TO AS STAFF TO CLOSED.  OTHERWISE THE COMMISSION HAS  TO COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF  CRITERIA AND JUST TO FIND THAT  IN A WAY THAT IS THESE ARE THE  MONITOR EASY TO AND THEN IF  SOMEONE FAILS TO THEN. WHILE  THE CITY HAD ASKED TO WORSE  THAN HAVING THAT YOU GO BACK  BACK GRAND TRY AND FORCE THAT  SOMEBODY COME OUT OF THEIR  FROM IT'S VERY IT'S VERY  TRICKY. MILES RECOMMENDED  DOING IT THAT MOST  STRAIGHTFORWARD WAY IS OF  PROPOSED IT'S DOING ALL I WANT  BECAUSE WHAT THE PROPOSED  SYSTEM CONSISTENT  >> CITY MANAGER WAR AND PEACE  SQUARED PROGRAM PROVIDE AN  OPPORTUNITY FOR LEASE. REALLY  2. YOU KNOW PLY FOR A GRANT OR  WHATEVER FOR LEE'S RELIEF. FOR  ORGANIZATIONS THAT. ARE  SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACTED BY THIS  CHANGE. SO FOR EXAMPLE AND I'M  MAKING THIS UP I HAVEN'T  THOUGHT IT SAY FOR EXAMPLE,  YEAH AND ORGANIZATION  EXPERIENCING. A 50% OR MORE  INCREASE. AND THEIR RELEASE AS  A RESULT OF THIS CHANGE OF  POLICY MIND THEY APPLY THROUGH  THAT PROGRAM FOR SOME LEASE  REALLY.  >> IT COULD APPLY IT WITH  CURRENTLY WRITTEN THEY  WOULDN'T BE SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE  OF HOW IT'S DESIGNED SUPPORT  THEIR OPERATING EXPENSES. IT  WAS DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY TO  TIE BACK TO A COUGH THAT THEY  WOULD FOR THAT WE HAVE A  DIRECT LINKAGE TO THE SERVICE  THEY WOULD PROVIDE IT. YOU  KNOW IT WOULD CHANGE SOMETHING  OF ITS TOOK THE WORDS OF AS  WE'VE BEEN PROGRAMMED YOU WITH  THE COMMISSION NOT AUTHORIZE  WHERE THEY APPLY FOR THAT THEN  YOU KNOW PUSH THE THAT. SO IT  COULDN'T BE LITTLE BIT THAT  RAIN FOR THAT BUT ALSO THE  PROGRAM IMPORTS. IT IS PROBLEM  YOU YOU HAVE LITTLE PLAY EVERY  SINGLE YEAR I REMEMBER  CORRECTLY SO THAT WAS PUT THEM  IN A POSITION TO ON YOU WANT  TO PUT THE NEXT YEAR. SO THE  TO DO THAT THAT MIGHT NOT BE  THE EXACT ALL NASTY WITH YOUR  WITH THIS TO HEY HOW CAN  PEOPLE APPLY FOR WHAT I WHAT I  WILL SAY IT IS YOU CAN HAVE SO  OVERNIGHT AS YOU SAY THE BIBLE  WAS A GREAT, BUT I A NONPROFIT  BECAUSE THEY ARE AS UNIFYING  THAT'S THEY OPERATE SO  SOMETHING YOU AND SAY REALLY  WENT AT YOU ANSWER THAT  QUESTION IT BECAUSE THAT'S THE  WAY THAT THE GOVERNMENT SORT  OF RECOGNIZE THAT THERE ARE  IT'S NOT EASIEST WAY FOR US TO  DO IT WELL SO WHEN WE LOOK AT  THIS. WHATEVER YOU AND THE  BOARD 2 WHICH IS ASKING FOR  THE CONSISTENCY ACROSS THE  BOARD. I THINK THAT YOU CAN  SEE ARE PHOTOS THAT THERE'S A  IT'S ALL OVER THE PLACE WELL  THERE ARE CERTAIN SITUATIONS  THAT CERTAINLY CAN BE DEFENDED  THERE IS A CERTAIN LEVEL OF  RISK THAT YOU WOULD EXCEPT IF  YOU ARE NOT JUST.  >> RIGHT DEFINITELY GET THAT  AND I'M A HUGE SUPPORTER OF  CONSISTENCY. BUT BUT THE FOOD  PANTRY IN PARTICULAR AND THE  DRIVES. DO YOU HAVE THE  NUMBERS LIKE WHAT THEY PAY NOW  AND WHAT THEY BE PAYING UNDER  THE NEW SCHEME WE CAN IS  CURRENTLY PAYING $400 A WE  DON'T HAVE A VALUE FOR THAT  BUILDING YET HOWEVER.  >> IF WE WERE TO SAY THAT  BUILDING WAS YOU KNOW $3 A  SQUARE FOOT. WE'D BE UP $460 A  MONTH NOT JUST WITH A PEN AND  PAD WHAT THE MARKET RATE IS  FOR THAT AND WHAT DISCOUNT THE  COMMISSION CHOOSES IS ACROSS  THE BOARD THIS POLICY PUT OUT  A 50%. THAT IS UP FOR  COMMISSION CONSIDERS.  >> YEAH IF IT WAS 402 FOR 16  THAT KEEP ME UP.  >> AT BUT IF IT WENT UP TO THE  600 700 800 AND THAT WOULD  HAVE A HARD TIME THAT SO.  >> SO  >> KEEP QUIET UNTIL WE HAVE A  MARKET VALUATION ON THAT  BUILDING WE HAVE AN  OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT  DIFFERENTIAL IMPACTS TO AND  NOT JUST IT AWAKENED CHURCH  BUT ANY NON PROFIT THAT'S  CURRENTLY LEASING SPACE FROM  US IT IS A HUGE DIFFERENTIAL  IMPACT IF I'M HUGE ITEM 2530  40% ABOVE WHAT THEY'RE PAYING.  AND JUST LIKE FRONT FOR THIS  BOARD TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY  LOOK AT THOSE AND SEE IF THERE  MIGHT BE SOME WAY TO MITIGATE  ANY OF HANDLING SOME  DIFFERENTLY IF MIGHT BE SOME  FAIR AND MEASURABLE WAY WE CAN  DO THAT. I'D LIKE TO DO THAT.  ANYBODY ELSE.  >> PEOPLE LOOKING SECOND  MISTER  >> YES, YOU KNOW. OF THE  TENANTS YOUR LEADER SUPPOSED  TO GIVE A QUANTITY OF REPORT  LOOKS OPPOSED REPORTS WHAT  DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY LOOKS  AT BOTH REPORTS AND MAKES THE  DECISION OF YOU KNOW THE  REPORT IS DEFICIENT.  >> THOSE REPORTS CURRENTLY ARE  HAPPENING SO THIS WOULD BE A  NEW THING IN THIS WOULD BE  SHARED WITH THE COMMISSION. OK  WHO WILL.  >> WE'LL LOOK AT THOSE REPORTS  THAT'S.  >> SO WE WILL RECEIVE IN THE  PUBLIC WORKS I WOULD I'M THE  OWNER OF THE BUILDING IN THIS  WE'RE TALKING A WEEK AND IT'S  JANET THEY WOULD EVALUATE IT.  AND THEN THIS INFORMATION GO  TO THE CITY COMMISSION TO SEE  IF YOU FEEL THAT THE DISCOUNT  THAT WAS PROVIDED THE AND THE  DISCOUNTED LEAST MET YOUR  EXPECTATIONS.  >> VICE MAYOR. YEAH JUST A  COUPLE THINGS SO IF WE'RE  TALKING THAT MARKET RATE IS  ABOUT $20 IS THAT LIKE FOR A  BRAND-NEW BUILDING ISH LIKE  YOU STATED BEFORE FROM MARK  OR.  >> IT'S THE CURRENT AVERAGE  FOR PORT SO THAT TAKES INTO  ACCOUNT A LOT OF DIFFERENT  BUILDINGS THAT ARE AVAILABLE  ON THE MARKET RIGHT NOW BASED  UPON MARKET CONDITIONS. THAT  DEFINITELY WOULD NOT BE THE  NUMBER THAT WE WOULD SPILL  GOES DIRECTLY WERE WEAK AND  HE'S AT RIGHT NOW THAT THAT  NUMBER WOULD BE VERY HIGH FOR  THAT FACILITY. I UNDERSTAND  THAT AND AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT  JUST BRINGING.  >> THE RATE UP TO 9 FT YOU  KNOW, AND THAT'S CITYWIDE  CORRECT. THAT WOULD BE HERE  ASK IN THE BIG PICTURE 9.50  FOR REGULAR RIGHT.  >> WHEN THEY ASK WOULD BE THAT  WE WOULD GET MARKET VALUE RATE  BASED UPON THE BUILDING AND  THEN IF THIS POLICY THE WAY IT  IS. THE MARKET VALUE RATE  WOULD BE DISCOUNTED BY 50% AND  THAT THAT RATE WILL VARY BY  BUILDING SO I I WOULD BE  UNABLE TO SAY THAT IT WOULD BE  YOU KNOW $9 ACROSS THE BOARD  FOR ANY SPACE WE GO TO. IF YOU  THINK ABOUT THE SPACE THAT  USED TO BE AT ALCOHOL CENTER  THAT THAT SPACE WOULD PROBABLY  NOT HAS BEEN AT A 9.50 YOU  WOULD HAVE THAT BUILDING WOULD  HAVE BEEN VALUED LOWERED  ANOTHER BUILDING MAYBE SO SO  WHAT WE WOULD DO IF WE HAD  SOMEBODY THAT WAS INTERESTED  LEASING A BUILDING. WE WOULD  FIRST GET THE MARKET VALUE  BASED UPON OUR REAL ESTATE  COORDINATOR, OUR CONTRACTOR OR  NO THROWN APPRAISAL IF NEEDED  TO GET THE SQUARE MARKET RATE  AND THEN AT THAT POINT YOU TO  APPLY THE POLICY SO IF THE  COMMISSION DECIDED THAT IT WAS  A 50% RISK. IT'S CALLED FOR I  WOULD THREES. WE WOULD THEN  APPLY THAT DISCOUNT AND THEN  BRING THAT TO COMMISSION WITH  THE LEASE AGREEMENT AND THE  DOLLARS AND CENTS A COMMISSION  TO CONSIDER  >> YOU STARTED AROUND THAT  QUITE A BIT LET ME BE A LITTLE  BIT MORE SPECIFIC YOU'RE  SAYING THAT THE MARKET RATE IS  $20. BUT IN PROPOSAL THAT YOU  GAVE US THE CITY IS ASKING TO  MAKE OUR MARKET RATE 9 SO IF  YOU'RE SAYING THAT. IT'S NOT  STRAIGHT ACROSS THE BOARD IS  GOING TO BE DUE TO THE  CONDITION OF THE BUILDING THIS  AT THE OTHER. WHAT THAT'S  TELLING ME IS YOU'RE NOT GOING  TO HAVE A PLAQUE MARKING RIGHT  IT'S ALL GOING TO BE  NEGOTIABLE ACROSS THE BOARD.  SO WHY ARE WE EVEN TALKING TO  9.50 IF WE'RE GOING ADJUST IT  FOR BUILDING AND THE REAL  ESTATE, YOU KNOW PERSON  EVERYTHING YOU'RE NOT GOING TO  HAVE A SET RIGHT.  >> THE 9.50 IS AN EXAMPLE AT  THIS POINT THE POLICY NEVER  HAS A NUMBER OF THAT THE  POLICY ONLY SAYS 50% OFF THE  VALUE. RIGHT NOW MARKET VALUES  ABOUT 20 $0.25 RIGHT NOW  EXISTING LEASES HAVE MADE AT  $9.50. I'M NOT SURE HOW THE  HOW THEY CORRELATED WHEN THEY  WERE LOOKING AT ONE MARKET  VALUE WAS AT THE TIME I WASN'T  PART OF THAT CONVERSATION IT  HAPPENS TO ALIGN PRETTY CLOSE  TO 50%.  >> MAYBE THAT WAS PROCESS. IT  COULD JUST BE COINCIDENTAL TO  BE TO BE HONEST. WHAT I AM  SAYING WHAT THE POLICY IS  TRYING TO SAY IS THAT IT WOULD  BE 50% OFF OF MARKET VALUE,  WHATEVER THE MARKET VALUE WAS  DETERMINED BASED UPON THAT  BUILDING SO THAT 9 50'S NOT I  SET PART NUMBER IN THE POLICY  50% DISCOUNT. IF THE  COMMISSION DECIDES TO GO WITH  THAT DOES HELP WOULD BE THE  NUMBER THAT WE THE PLOT.  >> WELL DEPENDING ON THE  CONDITION OF OUR BUILDINGS AND  STUFF IF YOU WANTED TO SET US  THAT RATE ACROSS THE BOARD AND  PUT A CAP MARKET RATE BUT  WE'RE CAPPING IT AT 9.50 FOR  ALL BUILDINGS IN THE CITY AND  THEN WE'LL TAKE OUR 50% OFF AT  THAT. I'M LOOKING AT HERE IS  WHAT YOU'VE EXPLAINED TO US IS  WE STILL HAVE A RULING  BRINGING NUMBER. YOU KNOW WE  DON'T KNOW WHAT EXACTLY WHAT  IT'S GOING TO BE FOR THESE  PEOPLE THAT ARE APPLIED. YOU  KNOW IT'S LIKE OKAY, THERE'S A  BILL IT'S IN DISREPAIR SO  YOU'RE GOING TO GET FOR $3 A  SQUARE FOOT. THIS IS A TOP AL  GOING TO GET HURT WHILE IF  YOU'RE 5, 1, 2, 3, YOU'RE  GOING TO GET TAT. THERE'S JUST  LOT OF DIFFERENT NUMBERS GOING  THROUGH WHEN PEOPLE ARE TRYING  TO LEASE PROPERTY AND I DO  BELIEVE WE DO NOT HAVE ANY  LEASE SPACE AVAILABLE RIGHT  NOW WITHIN THE CORRECT.  >> WE DO NOT HAVE SPACE  AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW.  >> EVERYBODY IS GOING TO BE  TRYING TO GET INTO THIS LEASE  SPACE AS POSSIBLE. SO. I JUST  THINK IT'S A LITTLE WAUKEE'S  THE WAY THAT AND THAT'S JUST  THE WAY I LOOK AHEAD OF  EVERYBODY ELSE MAKE THIS  RIGHT. IT'S JUST IF YOU'RE  LOOKING TO SET A RATE LESS  ENTERING.  >> IF COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO  MAKE A FLAT RATE FOR ALL THE  BUILDINGS REGARDLESS OF  EQUALITY YOUR SIZE OR STYLE OF  THE BUILDING AND WE HAVE A  FLAT RATE. IT IS COMPLETELY  HAVE 2 CONDITIONS PERMITTING.  >> THAT'S ALL  ♪ >> HOW WOULD MARKET RATE  ♪ >> BE DETERMINED. LEASE RENO  HOME.  >> NOW WE HAVE IT AT THE  CREATION OF POLICE YOU KNOW  NOT JUST THE STANDARD 3 MORE  ABOUT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT A  NEW LEASE FOR THAT OR YOU'RE  TYPICALLY THE TERMS ARE PRETTY  NICE. AND THERE'S THAT YOU  KNOW YOU POLICE IT FOR YEAR  AND AFTER 2 YEARS WE'RE GOING  TO START A LEASE.  >> SO IN ADDITION TO THE  VARIATION UNDER THIS PROPOSAL  AN ADDITION TO THE VARIATIONS.  I'M BUILDING. IT COULD ALSO BE  VARIATIONS FOR TENANTS WITHIN  THE BUILDING DEPENDING UPON  THEIR RELEASE RENO WILL CYCLE.  >> COME MARKET.  >> THAT DOES SORT OF GET A  LITTLE WONKY.  >> WHAT WOULD BE.  >> IT'S IF WE WANTED TO  APPROACH IT.  >> LET'S MAKE SURE WE HAVE  SUFFICIENT MONEY TO MAINTAIN  THE SOME SORT OF A MAINTENANCE  APPROACH. OUTSIDE ABOUT  HOWEVER WE DEFINE THAT. WOULD  THERE BE A CERTAIN DOLLAR  VALUE. THAT WE WOULD ASSESS  EACH BUILDING.  >> TO ENSURE OR.  >> THAT THE CITY HAD US THAT  SHOULDN'T MONEY AVAILABLE FOR  THE MAINTENANCE THOSE  BUILDINGS.  >> I DO NOT HAVE NUMBER OFF  THE TOP OF MY HEAD. WHAT WE DO  KNOW. THERE'S DEFERRED  MAINTENANCE AND ALL OF OUR  BUILDINGS. SO WE WE NEED TO  GET THE VOTING HERE. AND A  RELATED QUESTION. WITHIN  RENTAL. DOLLARS GO. THAT 2  WHICH EVER. KIND THE MANAGE  THE BUILDING SO FAMILY SERVICE  CENTER. WE'VE DONE WITH THEM.  AND THEN THOSE DOLLARS SUPPORT  OPERATING EXPENSES OF THAT  CITY DEPARTMENT AND IT'S A  GOOD SOAKING HIS REGULAR THE  COMMISSION CAN DECIDE WHERE  THAT MONEY I'M KIND OF POKING  AT THE MAINTENANCE OF THINGS  OBVIOUSLY THE CAUSE. LETTING  BUILDINGS DETERIORATE JUST  ALWAYS BOTHERS ME. IF WE'RE  GOING TO DO IT. WE OUGHT TO  MAINTAIN THAT. SO I'M JUST  SORT OF PLAYING WITH THE IDEA  THAT MAYBE INSTEAD OF MARKET  RATE. IT'S A DIFFERENT  APPROACH WHICH IS MAKING SURE  WE COLLECT SUFFICIENT INCOME  TO PROPERLY MAINTAIN THOSE  BUILDINGS, I DON'T I'M JUST  SORT OF.  >> PLAYING WITH SOMETHING THAT  IS PERHAPS MORE CONSISTENT  ACROSS THE BOARD I'M KIND OF  KEYING OFF OF. COMMISSIONER  ADAM RICHES COMMENTS THAT  THERE'S SO MUCH POTENTIAL  VARIATION. AND AND HOW WE  APPROACH A LOOK AND FEEL OF IT  BECOMES VERY INCONSISTENT. I.  LET'S SEE. IF YOU KNOW WHAT I  >> YES CITY MAN THIS THERE IS  A SMALL THAT AND AND VERY  IMPORTANT TO THEM IN I HEARD  UP THROUGHOUT YEARS THINGS  TALK YOU KNOW THE KIND OF WHEN  THE AS WELL FLAT RATE WHICH I  COMMISSIONER EXTENDING THIS  THAT'S A GREAT IDEA SORT OF WE  WANTED JUST BE THAT WAY FOR  EVERYWHERE THINK THAT SO  IMPORTANT IN THERE IS A NEW  FACILITY EXAMPLE LIKE HE'S  MEMBERS OF FACILITY THEN THE  VALUE THAT THEY THINK THAT  SOMETHING THAT THEY GET  AS THE BEING LEVEL GREAT BUT I  ALWAYS SEE WHAT MADE YOU LOOK  AT THAT RATE THAT THEY ARE  CHARGING IT'S ALWAYS PLAYED  BACK TO SOTO. CAPTURING THE  COST THAT THE CITY WOULD HE'S  BEEN OUT AND LETTING THAT BE  ALL OF THAT NEVER BEEN HEARD  IT TO MAKE THE BUILDING AND  THERE SO THAT IS THE CASE  MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE BUT  ADDED TO IT WOULD THAT WOULD  DECIDE UPON IS THAT THAT'S  GOING TO BE WITH SO THAT WE  KNOW THAT THE CITY DOESN'T  KEEP THE FRAMING THAT'S WHAT  WE NEED ARE THE BUILDING TO  BE. RESTORE TO RECOVER SO I  THINK THAT WITH WHAT. IT'S  >> INTERESTING CONVERSATION, I  MEAN I DON'T FIND IT VERY  COMPLICATED BUT ESTABLISHED  FIRST OF ALL THE IDEA HERE I  BELIEVE IN BRINGING THIS ITEM  FORWARD WAS TO CREATE.  >> IT CONSISTENT METHODOLOGY  OF CHARGING. THE FACT THAT.  THERE AND THAT CONSISTENCY IS  A PERCENTAGE ALL SOME NUMBER.  IN THIS CASE AND WE WERE  DECIDE 50%. IT'S A CONSISTENT  NUMBER IT DOESN'T SEEM TO ME  THAT YOU COULD. CHARGE THE  SAME. ALL THE WAY. FIRST WE'RE  WE GO ON THE SELF FACILITY  MAKES NO SENSE.  >> IT ISN'T GOING ANYWHERE. IT  IS ILLOGICAL THERE NEW  BUILDINGS OLD BUILDINGS  BUILDINGS ADDITIONAL  FACILITIES BUILDINGS THAT  DON'T HAVE FACILITIES  BUILDINGS THAT ARE FALL APART  BUILDINGS THAT SOMEBODY I MEAN  IT JUST ALWAYS BASED ON THE  MARKET RATE YOU TAKE MARKET  RATING. IT'S EASY TO ESTABLISH  THIS MESS IT ALL MEANS FOR  PATIENTS APPRECIATE TO DO  THAT. WHAT THAT IS AND IF  DETERMINATION FOR EQUITY  SAYING 50% IS WHAT WE WANT TO  CHARGE. PROFIT AND THAT'S WHAT  WE CHARGE. IF WE DETERMINE BY  ANALYZING 50% WOULD LEAD SOME  THESE ORGANIZATIONS. WITH A 25  TO 50% INCREASE OVER WHAT  THINK MAYBE WE NEED TO CHARGE  ONLY 29% OF MARKET. WE CAN AND  JUSTIN THAT PERCENTAGE. BUT  CONSISTENCY THERE YOU CAN'T  GOING THE OTHER WAY MY MOM I  MEAN HOW COULD YOU POSSIBLY. I  MEAN HOW WOULD TO CHARGE  SOMEBODY. YOU KNOW SQUIBB 4. A  BRAND BEAUTIFUL FACILITY  VERSUS A BUILDING THAT'S 20 OR  30 OR 40 YEARS OLD AND CHARGE  THE SAME RATES FOR THAT THAT  MARKET PLACE WHY WOULDN'T  HAPPEN HERE AND I DON'T THINK  WE'RE COMPLICATING FOR ANYBODY  AND CERTAINLY PROSPECTIVE  TENANT WILL KNOW WHAT IT IS  BECAUSE THE PLAYERS WILL GOT  TO KNOW IN 6 MONTHS LEAST  COMING OUT WHATEVER TIME WE WE  NEED WE GO OUT WE GET  INFORMATION WE COME BACK WE  HAD 5 SET YEARS WHAT YOU THE  CONSISTENCY FACTOR IS THE  PERCENTAGE WILL MARK GREAT THE  WAY I SEE ALL. SO. YOU KNOW IT  JUST SEEMS TO WHICH NOBODY'S  TOUCHED ON WHEN COMPARING THE  2 POLICIES. I DO WISH THAT IN  THE 2022 POLICY THERE WAS A  TERMS THE TENDENCY IN  TERMINATION COSTS LOT  SUBSTANCE IN IT TYPICALLY A  LOT THOSE BUILDINGS WILL  ALWAYS. PERHAPS MOST THEY  DIDN'T NEED TO BE IN THE  POLLS. THE PROBLEM THAT ALLOWS  EACH DEPARTMENT. TO CREATE THE  WE LAW WHICH MAY OR MAY  INCLUDE SHOWING. TENDENCY OR  TERMINATION. SAY ANOTHER SO I  LIKE THE IDEA ALSO YOU HAVE  THOSE OUT SO ANY DEPARTMENT  THAT CREATING WOULD HAVE TO  INCLUDE THOSE.  >> CECIL I MEAN THAT'S  ADDITIONAL CONSISTENCY OF THE  YOU KNOW THERE THINGS A  PERSONAL SENSE FOR ME TO GO  THROUGH EACH ONE BY WALT, BUT  YOU KNOW COULD SEE YOU KNOW  ONE OF THE BUILDING'S LANDLORD  CITY WHEN WITH DO ONE THING  ONE WOULD  >> THEY'RE ALL JUST PART OF  THE SAME WAY SO THEY'LL START  WITH PUBLIC WORKS WILL WORK  WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S  OFFICE WE'RE ENVISIONING A  TEMPLET THAT WOULD HAVE ALL OF  THAT FOR ME SAINTS ARRIVE, SO  IT'S GOING TO BE PRETTY  BOILERPLATE FOR THOSE TERMS  AND THEREFORE WE WON'T HAVE  SOCIAL SERVICES COMING UP WITH  THEIR OWN AGREEMENT IT WOULD  ALL ALL THE SAME PATTERN AND  BE CONSISTENT IN THAT MANNER.  >> AND THAT WORKS FOR  CONSOLING.  >> YEAH JUST A SORT OF ABOUT  CLOSING COMMENTS FROM ME.  ♪ THE BUSINESS PERSON AND WE  REALLY DOES LIKE THE MARKET  RIGHT APPROACH AND THEN A  STANDARD THIS COLUMN I HEAR  WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. MAYOR AND  I'M CERTAINLY WILLING TO HAD I  THINK THE APPROACH.  >> DOES MEET THE POLICY GOALS.  BUT BEFORE FINAL DECISIONS, 2  THINGS ONE OF LIKE TO KNOW THE  DIFFERENTIAL IMPACT I WANT  SEE. WHO'S GOING UP WAS GOING  DOWN BY HOW MUCH AND THEN FOR  TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK  AT ANY NONPROFIT THAT'S BEING  UNFAIRLY IMPACTED. HOWEVER WE  DEFINE THAT AND FIGURE OUT A  MECHANISM FOR PROVIDING  RELIEF.  >> THAT STANDARDIZED WHETHER  IT'S MP SQUARE DOOR.  >> PARKS AND RATS. KIND OF  THING OR SOMETHING NEW.  >> WE COULD YOU KNOW, BUT  THING YOU CAN SAY MORE THAN A  WHATEVER YOU KNOW KNOW RIGHT  NOW WE DON'T HAVE TO SORT OF  GO LOOKING AROUND JUST LEAVE  IT ANOTHER OPTION SO I WOULD  BE MORE THAN HAPPY WITH THAT  KIND APPROACH. MISTER  >> GOOD QUESTION ACTUALLY HOW  DO YOU KNOW THE BEST THEY CAN  AND HOW MANY TOTAL LEAST  PROVIDENCE DO WE HAVE.  >> SO WE HAVE 20 AIDS.  >> PROPERTIES I PROPERTIES  THAT MIGHT BE A SWEET INSIDE  THAT STATE ROAD SPACES. AND WE  DO HAVE A WEB PAGE THAT IS  AVAILABLE. WE DON'T CURRENTLY  HAVE ANY. THEY CONCEDE SO IT  HASN'T HAPPENED HEAVILY  ADVERTISED. NOT REALLY HAD A  SITUATION WHERE WE'VE NOT HAD.  SO IF IF THAT NEED CAME ACROSS  WE WOULD EVER HAS WITH OUR  COMMUNICATIONS TEAM.  >> IF WE HAVE FOR EXAMPLE 2  IDENTICAL TENANTS SIMILAR  ATTENDANCE, POTENTIAL. HOW DO  HOW DO WE SELECT WEED OUT.  >> THAT'S NOT A COMBINATION OF  COMMISSION YOU WOULD WE  PRESENT THE COMMISSION FOR THE  COMMISSION'S.  >> AND AND WINDS IT'S A  POLITICAL TO YOU.  ♪ ♪ NUMBER E. THE CITY COMMISSION  WILL BE DOING NEXT EACH LEAST  UNLESS AUTHORITY TO APPROVE  THE LEASE HAS BEEN DELEGATED  TO THE CITY MANAGER.  >> ARE CERTAINLY SAYS WHERE  THEY TO COMMISSIONER  COMMISSIONERS APPROVED IT AND  THEN IT SAYS IN THE LEAST THIS  RENEWAL WILL BE APPROVED BY  THE CITY MANAGER SO THAT WOULD  BE SOMETHING THAT THE CITY  COMMISSION WOULD BE AWARE OF  AND WOULD MAKE A DETERMINATION  WILL PROCEED LOANS.  >> WE STILL AS A COMMISSION  WAR HAVE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE  2 LEADS THE INITIAL ARE ALL IS  ABSOLUTELY MICHELLE. AND THIS  RELATES. THICKLY TO DO  CONTINUATION OF THE LEAGUE'S.  >> IT EXACTLY IN CERTAINLY  SAYS THERE HAS BEEN COURTING  THAT REMOVE ALL OF THIS LEASE  OR YOU IT'S WE'RE GOING AWAY.  IS THE CITY MANAGER SOMEHOW OR  SO NOT ALL OF THESE ITEMS NEED  TO COME BEFORE YOU AND THEN  ATTEND ITEMS HOWEVER THAT WILL  BE CLEARLY STATED ANY LEASE  THAT IS BROUGHT TO COMMISSION  COMMISSION'S CONSIDERATION.  WHETHER OR NOT YOU WERE PRETTY  ROUGH. MAX VERSION OF LEASE  BEING PROBED BY THE CITY  MANAGER AND NOT  >> STRICTLY NEW RULES.  >> CAN BE A NEW LEASE  DEPENDING UPON HOW THAT FIRST  ONE WAS WRITTEN, BUT 9% OF  TIME THAT HAS TO DO RIGHT  >> AND STILL CLEAR ON THAT  90%. SO THIS. AS A  COMMISSIONER WOULD LIKE TO  MOTION AND A PROCESS REVIEWING  IT.  >> ABSOLUTELY SO WHEN THE  LEASE COMES TO IT WILL CLEARLY  STATE IF ANY CASE THE CITY  MANAGER WOULD BE THE ONE THAT  WOULD APPROVED THE NEXT LEASE.  YOU OFF THAT LEE'S. SO THE  COMMISSION WILL BE IN CONTROL  OF THAT LEASE HOLY.  >> COMMISSIONER DO WELL. HE  SAID THE POLICY.  >> OR USE THE ANALOGY OF OR I  DISNEY WORLD. ALSO SAYS THAT  IF YOU'RE NOT 5 FEET TALL  CAN'T GET ON THIS RIDE. AND IN  THAT CASE.  >> IT'S SIMPLE.  >> IN THIS CASE. IT'S NOT SO  SIMPLE.  >> BECAUSE.  >> WHATEVER RATE RESET. OR  WHATEVER METHODOLOGY IS. WE  HAVE TO BE FAIR TO THE CITY  THAT PAYERS ARE PAYING TAXES  THAT ARE GOING TO HELP FARM.  SOME OF THIS.  WE ALSO HAVE TO CONCERNED WITH  THE ORGANIZATION AND WITH THE  PEOPLE THAT THEY SERVE. AND WE  ALSO HAVE TO BE.  >> CAUCUS AND ALL.  >> WHAT ORGANIZATIONS  AFFORDABILITY IS. SO THERE'S  SO MANY DIFFERENT.  >> FACETS TO LOOK AT FROM THE  U.S..  >> MAYBE HE'S. SOMETHING LIKE  GENERAL.  >> WE'LL TRY TO GOAL. OR 50%  OF MARKET RATE. AS EACH CALLS  DO. CITY MANAGER AND STAFF TO  LOOK AT. AND THAT  ORGANIZATIONAL FOR WHAT WE'RE  ASKING AND IF THEY CAN IT. AND  THE CITY YOU FORM TO GIVE THEM  A LITTLE GRAY. I THINK THAT  YOU KNOW WE HAVE GIVE THE CITY  MANAGER AND STAFF SOME THIS.  IT'S GOOD TO HAVE A POLICY  BUT. SOMETIMES A YOU HAVE TO  BE ABLE  >> A LITTLE BIT OF LEEWAY WAY.  >> THAT CITY MANAGER WE HAVE  PROFESSIONAL STAFF TO CAN LOOK  AT THINGS AND SAY HEY. THIS IS  WHAT'S FAIR FOR EVERYBODY AND  IT NEED OR IT GETS TO WEAR.  THE CITY SAYS NO THIS IS WHAT  WE WANT TO CHARGE THE  ORGANIZATION AND THE  ORGANIZATION SAYS. WE FOR THAT  AND MAYBE THE CITY MANAGER TO  COME TO CITY COMMISSION AND  SAY DO WE WANT TO MAKE AN  EXCEPTION.  >> SO. NEWS THAT YOU'RE THAT  CHAIR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING I'LL  ADD TO THAT IS.  >> THE JUDGE CAN THEY OR DO  NOT BUY FINANCE IS SOMETHING  THAT WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT LOOK  THROUGH YOU KNOW THAT'S  SOMETHING THAT WOULD PUT AN  EXTRA SORT OF LATER INTO THIS  NOT SAYING THAT CAN BE YOU  START TO GET VERY YOU KNOW  GOOD MENTAL ON WHETHER OR NOT  WE BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN AVOID  BEFORE RATE VERSUS KNOW. IT  WILL THE THERE THE LOOK AT MY  PARTY IS IN THAT I KIDDED THAT  THE THE BIG PICTURE IN MIND.  THIS IS JUST WHAT WOULD THAT  JUST BROKE DOWN REPLACEMENT OR  THIS COULD GET VERY IS A  TRICKY IS ALL I'M SAYING BUT.  COMING FROM A DEAFENING  UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE THE  FACT THAT WE SHOULD BE  DECISIONS THAT AND OPERATIONAL  LEVEL AND NOT HAVING TO BRING  EVERY SINGLE THING YOU AS A  BOARD TO BE THE FINAL  >> COUPLE THINGS COMMISSIONER  VALLEY. INTERESTING POINT THAT  WE HAD. AND SHOULD YOU KNOW WE  TALKED ABOUT. CONSISTENT RATE  OFFICE MARKET. ABOUT STARE. WE  FOCUSED ON WHAT THAT RATE THE  SOMETHING BACK EXCESSIVE. WE  GREATLY  WITH WHAT ANY OF THESE  ORGANIZATIONS WAS PRESENTLY  PAYING. BUT BROUGHT UP POINT I  THINK WHICH IS THAT THESE ARE  ALL TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND WE  HAVE TO CONSIDER ON THE OTHER  SO THAT THE CITY DOES HOW  COURTS AND THAT YOU THESE ARE  TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND JUST TOO  UTILIZE IN THE STRUGGLE  RESPONSIBLE MANNER AS  POSSIBLE. WHEN YOU GET INTO.  IN MY OPINION ANYWAY.  FOLLOWING 12 AWAY. PROSPECTIVE  TENANT AND THE SERVICES THEY  PROVIDE TO THE CITY AND TO THE  CITIZENS OF THE CITY. OR SPEAK  IT'S OF COURSE WE WOULD WANT  TO WORK ON THAT DAY AND WE  WANT TO FOUL YOU WHAT IT IS  THAT THEY PROVIDE FOR CITIZENS  OF OUR CITY. FROM A LEGAL  STANDPOINT, IT'S LIKE WALKING  RIGHT INTO QUICKSAND BECAUSE  THERE'S SO MANY EQUITIES AND  AND I COULD YOU KNOW ACTING  CITY ATTORNEY SPEAK TO IT  THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I BELIEVE  WE'RE TRYING TO BY CREATING  CONSISTENT POLICY. IT IS  PAINFUL AS THAT MAY THERE  SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 2. THAT  PERCENTAGE OF DISCOUNT IF  STILL BRINGS BACK THAT THE  IMPACT OF WHAT A 50% OFF OF  MARKET MIGHT BE SHOULD THESE  PROPERTIES AND HOW IT WOULD  AFFECT COMPARED TO WHAT  THEY'RE PAYING RIGHT NOW AND  AND STEPH WATTS THE COMFORT  THAT WE'RE COVERING OUR  EXPENSES THAT THAT THIS ISN'T  A BURDEN ON OUR TAX PAYING  CITIZENS. WERE YOU KNOW  CONCERNED WITH THE AIR AND WE  FOUND ABOUT WHAT THE PERFECT  PROBABLY NOT BUT IT WILL BE  CONSISTENT. SO YOU KNOW I  SUGGEST WE STAY AWAY FROM  TRYING SENSITIVE TO WANT PLAY  FOR FALL BECAUSE THAT'S JUST  TOO SUBJECTIVE AND IT TO WHAT  I MEAN ANY NONPROFIT IS GOING  TO SAY WHAT THEY DO IS  INVALUABLE TO THE SYSTEMS SO  HOW HOW WE SIT DETERMINED THAT  YOU JUST THE HATE TO SAY, BUT  DAY AND AGE THEY CAN SOCIETY  AND THAT'S THE DANGER THAT I  BELIEVE PART OF THE REASON FOR  THAT KEPT THE CONSISTENCY SO  AND TO YOUR POINT THERE THAT  IS HOW.  >> HOW WE DID GET HERE TRYING  TO FIND A WAY WHERE IT WASN'T  I'M A PERSONAL VALUATION OF  THE SERVICES BUT A MORE  STANDARDIZE NOT  >> CITY  >> MANAGER YOU HAVE THINK THAT  THAT CHAIR MOVED DOWN HERE  THIS  >> WHEN YOU BROUGHT NEW LEASES  AND THE RENEWALS AND STUFF  LIKE THAT. AND FOR  COMMISSIONER PETROFF YOU'RE  TALKING 90% 10%. IT'S A NEW  LEASE IT SHOULD COME TO THE  COMMISSION. IF THERE IS A  CHANGE AND THAT IT SHOULD COME  THE COMMISSION'S STAFF OR CITY  MANAGER SHOULD NOT HAVE THE  RIGHT TO LEAGUES. IT HAS BEEN  APPROVED BY THE SPORT. SO ONLY  RENEWALS IN MY OPINION SHOULD  GO TO STAFF AND THE CITY  MANAGE. THE SAME CONDITIONS.  IF THERE'S A CHANGE GET BACK  TO US WE'LL TALK ABOUT. AND IT  ALSO FALL UNDER YOU KNOW WE  SHOULD THE COMMISSION SHOULD  HAVE ALL. OVER THE NEGOTIATED  COST OF THE LEAGUE'S NOT CITY  MANAGER STAFF THAT THERE'S A  HARDSHIP OR WHATEVER TO THE  BOARD WE'VE GOT 5 PEOPLE TO  DECIDE IF IT'S JUSTIFIED  RATHER THAN JUST WONG AND I'M  NOT PICKING ON THE CITY  MANAGER, BUT THAT COULD ALL  END UP.  >> THEY AS DOWN THE ROAD FOR  ONE NONPROFIT OVER ANOTHER  NONPROFIT OR AT LEAST TO JUST  PUT SOME DUST IN THE WIND OUT  THERE ARE PEOPLE THINKING WELL  THEY GOT THIS WAY BUT DUE TO  THE BOARD LET US DECIDE AS THE  AND THEN FORWARD.  >> AND ABSOLUTELY VICE MAYOR  WE. AND THROW THE 90 IN 10%  BECAUSE I KNOW THERE ARE SOME  LEASES OUT THERE THAT HAVE  SOME LANGUAGE. OF COURSE DON'T  HAVE THEM ALL MEMORIZED THIS  THREAT. HOWEVER THOSE LEASES  CAME BEFORE THE COMMISSION THE  COMMISSION SAW WHATEVER THE  CABBIE OUT WAS WHEN IT WOULD  ON OFF CHANCE, BUT CITY  MANAGER FINDING PROPOSE AND  AND WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THAT  REALLY SPELLED OUT SO THE  COMMISSION WOULD HAVE TO HAVE  A COMFORT LEVEL WITH THAT  APPROVAL AT THE CITY MANAGER  OF ALL. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE  SURE THAT IT THAT WE WERE  CLEAR AND HONEST THAT THERE  ARE SOME OUT THERE THAT SAY  CITY MANAGER BY FAR AND WHY.  EVERYTHING COMES BACK TO  COMMISSION AND THE COMMISSION  HAD TO APPROVE THAT CAVEAT  THAT IT WOULD GO TO CITY  MANAGER AT WHATEVER POINT AT  THAT.  >> RIGHT BUT AS I'M SAYING NEW  ALL I'VE GOT NO PROBLEM WITH  THAT. BUT IF IT'S COMING BACK.  LET US DISCUSS AND AND GOING  FORWARD IF IT'S A NEW POLICY,  LET'S GET IT IN THE NEW POLICY  WHAT I ALSO OUT THERE RIGHT  NOW WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER.  BUT WE'RE SETTING A NEW POLICY  SO LET'S JUST GET IT RIGHT  THAT'S ALL. COMMISSIONER  LANGDON.  >> BECAUSE I SAID EARLIER I  WAS MAKING CONCLUDING COMMENTS  BUT I GUESS IT IS NEVER OVER  TILL IT'S OVER RIGHT.  ♪ >> ANYWAY TO COMMISSIONER,  ♪ ADAM RICHES.  >> POINTS. MY PREFERENCE IS I  REALLY DON'T LIKE ROUTINE  THINGS COMING TO THE  COMMISSION. ROUTINE KINDS OF  THINGS WE SHOULD HAVE. STAFF  AUTHORITY TO APPROVE. I WOULD  ONLY SO 2 THINGS IF WE'RE  MAKING A CHANGE TO A LEASE  THAT GOES AGAINST THE CURRENT  POLICY, THE POLICY SHOULD COME  BACK. WE'RE INCREASING. THE  RANT. I WAS A CERTAIN  PERCENTAGE SO THE ONLY LITTLE  CAVEAT I WOULD ADD TO WHAT YOU  SAID PETE. AS IF IT'S GOING UP  MORE THAN I DON'T KNOW WHAT  BRITS 10%. IT SHOULD COMBAT.  SO IF IT'S A SUBSTANTIVE  CHANGE TO THE TERMS AND  CONDITIONS OF THE LEASE I SEE  THAT AS A POLICY. POTENTIAL  POLICY CHANGES TO COME TO US  AND THEN THE THOUGH RENT IS  GOING UP BY MORE THAN SAY 10%  MAYBE IT'S 12 MAYBE IT'S A YOU  KNOW. IT SHOULD COME BACK.  >> BUT TO DUVALL'S COMMENT.  >> YOU KNOW HOW DO WE  DISTINGUISH. 1, 5, 1, C 3 OVER  ANOTHER VERY VERY DIFFICULT TO  DO YOU GET INTO ALL KINDS OF  GRAY AREA AND AND WE'RE REALLY  TRYING TO BE CONSISTENT.  HOWEVER. AND IN MY MIND  ANYWAY, I SEE A REAL  DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN  ORGANIZATION THAT'S A 100%  VOLUNTEER. IN AN ORGANIZATION  THAT HAS PAID STAFF. BECAUSE  AN ORGANIZATION THAT HAS PAY  ITS STAFF HAS SOME TYPE OF.  >> SHERYL LEE GUARANTEED  REVENUE STREAM WHETHER IT'S  STATE FUNDING FEDERAL FUNDING  PART OF A NATIONAL LOCAL  CHAPTER OF THE NATIONAL  ORGANIZATION. SO IF THERE'S  SOME WAY TOO SPLIT HAIRS, OUT.  TURNING MICHAEL'S HERE VAN. IT  MIGHT BE THAT TO MENTION OF  100% VOLUNTEER VERSUS PITT  STEP.  >> JUST A THOUGHT. AND THAT  MIGHT GET TOO AS I HEAR WHAT  YOU'RE SAYING. COMMISSIONER  MIKE DUVAL AND I HEAR MAKE  TAKE A LITTLE JUST TO  THROW THAT OUT THERE  CONSIDERATION AND NOW I REALLY  WELL.  >> STOP TALKING GOOD JOB BY  INCLUDE MADE A BIG STEP TOWARD  BEING MORE CONSISTENT AND HOW  WE'RE HANDLING THESE THINGS  AND THAT'S GOOD PRETTY GOOD  FEEL FOR WHERE.  >> THIS COMING ALL RIGHT WELL  RECAP OF WE'RE GOING BRING  IMPACT BY AND THEN SHOW WHAT  IT WOULD LOOK LIKE AT MARKET  VALUE WITH THE 50% AND AND HOW  THAT FEELS SO THERE'S A  COMFORT LEVEL FOR THAT.  >> WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE  THAT WE.  >> HAVE SOME KIND OF WHAT  HAPPENED THERE THAT MORE THAN  X AMOUNT OF THE CHANGING RIGHT  NOW THAT WAS SET AT 10%. THAT  WILL COME BACK TO COMMISSION  WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT  IT IS WITHIN THE POLICY THAT  ANY SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE COMES  BACK TO COMMISSION AND  OBVIOUSLY NEW LEASES RENEWALS  COME BACK TO COMMISSION.  >> AND THEN WE HAD.  >> EVALUATION ABOUT WHAT THE  MAINTENANCE WOULD BE. WE DO  HAVE THE FACILITY CONDITION  ASSESSMENT WRAPPING UP SO WE  SHOULD HAVE THAT REPORT WHICH  WOULD GIVE A DOLLAR AMOUNT PER  SQUARE FOOT FOR THIS SO I'LL  BE BRINGING AS WELL.  >> WE DID A PRETTY PRETTY BUT  ALSO POLL THE  >> HAVING PAY 8 STAFF TO JUST  GET A GAME OF WHAT WE  CURRENTLY HAVE IS OUR  >> TIME FRAME GOING TO  >> IT SHOULD BE THAT I ONLY  HAS A TAPE BECAUSE I'M NOT  SURE WHEN ACTUALLY GET THAT  FACILITY CONDITION ASSESSMENT  REPORT ACT. I'M HOPEFUL THAT  THAT COMES BACK WITHIN THE  NEXT COUPLE WEEKS SO YOU'LL  SEE YOU KNOW FIRST CALENDAR  QUARTER. MUCH ANYTHING ELSE.  THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK  YOU.  >> GENERAL BUSINESS I GUESS WE  SHOULD DOUBLE CHECK TO SEE IF  WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS  HERE CITY THERE IS A TO VOTE.  AND THE BEING 24 DASH 1, 6, 5,  DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE  DIRECTION MANAGEMENT TO PFIZER  COMMITTEE ORDINANCE NUMBER  2024 DASH 37 AND COMMISSION  POLICY. 2024 DASH 0 CITY  MANAGER. SHE RIGHT.  >> THANK YOU. MISTER CITY.  >> ESPECIALLY A LITTLE BIT  BEFORE ACT TAKING WHEN IS THE  2024 37 CREATING A BIT ABOUT  MEETING WITH THE DOCTOR BY THE  COMMISSION JUST AND THEN MOVED  NUMBER 2022 BOARD THAT ARE 57  ADOPTING COMMISSION POLICY  TWENTY-TWENTY FOR ONE THEN  POLICY WAS INCORPORATED IN THE  RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024 DASH  POLICY OF THE CITY COMMISSION.  I'M GOING TO DO IT CAN HELP ON  BOARD VOTED TO NOT APPROVE THE  REFERENDUM QUESTION ONE HAS  SAYS THAT SEEKING DURING  COMMISSION THAT THE  ESTABLISHMENT OF COMMITTEE IF  THERE'S MAYBE THAT IS NEEDED  TO COMMISSION POLICY 2024 SU  AWARD. IF YOU AS A BOARD WANT  TO CONTINUE ON THE PATH THAT  YOU ADOPTED IN EARLY NOVEMBER,  WE WOULD NEED TO START WITH A  PAD. BUT I THINK GETTING  MEMBERS ON THE BOARD. NO WE  DIDN'T PASS THAT YOU WERE JUST  SAY NO THAT'S WAY THAT WE  WOULD STOP WE ALTHOUGH WAS  WHAT WE'RE GOING GOT IS IF YOU  WANT TO GO OR WITH  ESTABLISHING THE COMMITTEE AND  THE ANY CHANGES OR IF YOU WANT  TO JUST ALL THE WAY UNTIL YOU  GO TO THE NEXT GENERATION OF  WHAT.  >> THE.  >> ASK MIGHT BE TO THE PUBLIC  FOR THE THAT MEANT THE  SERVICES WHICH. YOU WILL BE  SORT OF DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT  LATER HOW YOU WANT TO TALK  ABOUT THAT AS WELL. BY THE  SAME THING PLEASE.  >> WELL SEE WHAT COMMISSIONERS  SAY QUESTION TO DISCUSSION.  >> I'M JUST NOT USED TO THE  VICE MAYOR AND WHERE IT'S LIKE  FIRST STOP IN THE  >> BUT JUST SITTING WHEN  YOU'RE THIS MORNING AND  ALREADY CHATTED WITH THE CITY  OFF THE FLOOR IS YOURS.  >> ALL RIGHT SO.  >> WITH THIS COMMITTEE AND I  KNOW WE'RE LOOKING AT AT TIME  LINES AND STUFF LIKE THAT SO.  IT IS BUT IF WE GO FORWARD  WITH THIS COMMITTEE AND I KNOW  WE'RE LOOKING AT MARCH COMING  UP. AND WOULD WOULD THAT  COMMITTEE HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO  GO THROUGH THIS POLICY FIGURE  OUT WHAT'S RIGHT WHAT'S WRONG  COME BACK TO US BEFORE WITHIN  TIME SPANS TO BE ABLE TO PUT  IT ON THAT REFERENDUM ON THAT.  MARCH. TIME YES SIR THAT THIS  COMMITTEE HAS MORE.  >> IN LINE FOR ADMINISTRATION  OF THE POLICY THAT YOU HAVE A  PLACE THEY'RE THERE TO TELL  YOU THERE. INITIAL BELIEVES  THE WHAT YOU NEED TO CHANGE IN  THE VERY BEGINNING YOU'VE  OUTLINED WHAT YOU WANT IN YOUR  POLICY NOW NOW THEIR JOB WILL  BE TO STAY HEY NOW THAT YOU'VE  GOT ANOTHER QUESTION ON THE  BALLOT. YOU MAY BE A DIFFERENT  QUESTION THE NEW IN NOVEMBER  BY SAME QUESTION. WHAT DOES  THAT MEAN AS FOREIGN MINISTER  ADDING THAT PENDING ON WHAT  THE NEXT ELECTION RESULT OF  IT, NOT SO THE TIMING OF THEM.  IT'S JUST GOING TO JUST BE IN  ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT YOU'RE  DOING IT SHOULDN'T CAUSE OF  CONCERN IF THEY BOARD PRIOR  AND NEARLY AFTER  >> WELL THE ONE THING THAT WE  DID HEAR VERY LOUD AND CLEAR  FROM THE PUBLIC THROUGHOUT  THIS WHOLE PROCESS WAS A THEY  DECIDED THAT THIS SHOULD BE  BROKEN UP INTO SEPARATE PARTS  THAT. WHEN WE HAVE THAT  CONVERSATION BECAUSE WE CAN'T  GET DIRECTION TODAY DOING  DOING THAT WHEN WE HAVE A  CONVERSATION ON OKAY WE WANT  TO SPLIT IT UP INTO ONE TO  3.14 PARTS. TO PUT IT OUT THAT  REFERENDUM THAT IS THE VERY  AND AND ANYBODY ELSE.  >> THAT AND WE'RE GOING TO  TALK ABOUT WHAT I BELIEVE ARE  3 QUESTIONS THAT SORT IT OUT  THE THAT YOU GUYS GO THROUGH  AND THEN IF YOU WANT MORE OR  LESS IN THOSE PLACES YOU KNOW  IT TALKING TO MADAM CLERK OF  THE FINANCIAL IS TOO. IT IS  WELL AS TO HOW MANY QUESTIONS  YOU HAVE ON THERE DO YOU HAVE  ON THERE WE'RE GOING TO TALK  ABOUT ALL WHAT ALL THAT LOOKS  LIKE.  >> BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO  INCLUDE OTHER TOPICS SUCH A  DEBT MANAGEMENT POLICY TO  CORRECT FOR TO PUT ON THE  REFERENDUM PUBLIC.  >> THE THIS YOUR FIRST PUBLIC  CONVERSATION ABOUT IT THAN IF  THEY DO IS JUST COMING THE  TIME FRAME WE KNOW SHORE THE  DEBT DO GET YOUR QUESTION IN  TO PROVIDED A LINK TO EVEN  SHORTER CORRECT SO WE'RE JUST  HAVING THE CONVERSATIONS AND  YOU CAN SORT OF I'VE BEEN TO  IT. GETTING THIS CONVERSATION  TODAY AND THIS SORT MAKING  SURE THAT IS WITH US VISION  WHICH WILL HAPPEN TOMORROW  WINDS. THEY WILL BE IMPORTANT  AND YOU TURN RIGHT BACK AROUND  AND COME BACK AND TALK US AND  MORE NEXT. OKAY, GOOD ENOUGH I  JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE  HAVE.  >> YOU KNOW A TIMELINE AND WE  COULD FIT WITHIN THAT STILL BE  ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD. YES  THANK YOU SIR THAT'S ALL I  HAD.  >> YOU KNOW  >> GAVE SOME THOUGHT TO THIS  ITEM BECAUSE YOU KNOW I WAS. I  WAS ONE WHO BUT WE'VE STRONGLY  AND THAT WE NEEDED ADVISORY  BOARD. WITH THE CITIZENS IS  CLOSE VOTED DOWN. THE CITY'S  COMMISSION'S ABILITY TO BORROW  WITHOUT ASKING FOR PERMISSION.  WHETHER WE EVEN HAVE. AND GO  BACK OUT WITH THE REFERENDUM  IN MARCH AND WE CHOOSE TO WAIT  UNTIL. 2026 THAT SHIP REMAINS  TO BE SEEN. AND IF WE LOOK AT.  THE ACTUAL. THE FINDING OF  RESPONSIBILITIES FOR THIS  COMMITTEE. SEEING ASH THAT'S  WE PRESENTLY SAID. ANYTHING WE  NEEDED MONEY FOR. WE WOULD  HAVE TO ASK. CITIZENS FOR  PERMISSION. I DON'T REALLY SEE  THE NEED FOR THIS COMMIT. AT  THIS POINT IN TIME. CONDITION  ABOUT WHAT MIGHT BE DECIDED.  OVER THE NEXT 30 OR SO DAYS.  >> SO I SEE A REASON TO DO  THIS BECAUSE MY CONCERN IS.  >> CREATING AN ADVISORY BOARD  OR COMMITTEE. PEOPLE THINK  ABOUT CITIZENS THINK ABOUT  JOINING IT THEY STEP THEY  VOLUNTEER WORK. AND YET. WAS  REALLY NOTHING FOR THEM TO DO  IF NOTHING CHANGES IF NOTHING  CHANGES. THERE IS NO NEED FOR  THE SPORT FOR THIS COMMITTEE  AT IF THE CITIZENS DON'T  CHOOSE TO GIVE US ANY BAR ON  THE STORY AT ALL. AND WE DON'T  EVEN KNOW LIKE I SAY IF IT  MAKES SENSE TO TRY JUMP  THROUGH THE HOOPS IT TAKES TO  BE OUT THERE MARCH. ELECTION.  >> I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT THIS  POINT PERSONALLY. IT'S MUCH AS  I KNOW WE HAVE THE NEED TO BE  ABLE TO BORROW MONEY FOR  PROJECTS AND VARIOUS THINGS  AND AS WELL AS FOR EMERGENCY  SO. YOU KNOW AGAIN LOOKED TO  WHAT IT IS THESE FOLKS WOULD  BE DOING AND IF WE'RE GOING TO  GO OUT ASK PEOPLE TO JOIN THE  COMMITTEE. LIKE THE COMMITTEE  TO DO THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO  ASK.  >> I THINK THE TIMING MIGHT BE  A PART OF IT AND LOOK AT HOW  LONG WILL THAT TAKE IN ONLY  BILL A COMMITTEE LIKE YOU WE  ADVERTISE IT IN.  >> DECEMBER DO WE THINK OF  BILL ABOUT EVERYWHERE. AND  IT'S A IT'S A 60 TO 90 DAY  PERIOD TO LOOK PRETTY LET'S  SAY IN PAST AND WE'RE  CONTINUING 6090 DAYS TO GET  YOUR.  >> A COMMITTEE AFTER THE  ELECTION THAT'S THE THING  MIGHT.  >> PARTICULAR COMMITTEE. I  THINK YOU WOULD PROBABLY  QUICKLY GET PARTICIPANTS ON OR  WHAT IT IS WHAT I DO AGREE  WITH THE MAYOR THAT IF THERE'S  NO NO MEETINGS IT'S KIND OF  LIKE OUR OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE  AND OTHER ONES MEET ONCE A  YEAR WILL GET PEOPLE ON THAT  BUT THEN WHEN IT COMES TIME  FOR MEETING THERE ARE NO  LONGER AVAILABLE.  >> WE DON'T HAVE TO DISSOLVE  THE COMMITTEE RIGHT WE CAN  ALWAYS TEMPORARILY SUSPENDED  STORE  >> BUT BIG I THINK THIS IS  THAT WHAT I'M GOING TO PUT TO  GET THAT DIRECTION BECAUSE IT  WANT TO DEAL WITH IN THING OUT  OF  >> MISTER  >> AGREE WITH MAYOR STOLE IT.  I JUST DON'T SEE THE NEED FOR  THIS COMMITTEE AT THIS TIME.  WE'VE GOT TO GET THE  REFERENDUM QUESTIONS DON'T  FIRST. AND THINGS PASS THEN  YOU CAN CREATE A COMMITTEE TO  OVERSEE. ALL THINGS ARE GOING.  I JUST DON'T SEE THE. JUST  DON'T SEE THE REASON AT THIS  TIME.  >> AND COMMISSIONER LANGDON.  >> THANK YOU MAYOR, I AGAINST  APPROVING THE COMMITTEE WHEN  WE DISCUSSED IT THE FIRST TIME  BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW AT THAT  POINT.  >> WHAT THE RESULTS OF THE  REFERENDUM WOULD BE AS CITY  MANAGER SAID EARLIER IT'S NOT  THE WORLD OF THIS COMMITTEE  CRITIQUE OUR DEBT MANAGEMENT  POLICY, IT'S TO ADMINISTER.  THAT POLICY IN THE REVIEW OF  UPCOMING DEBT WHICH WE DON'T  HAVE. SO I'M I'M FALLING IN  LINE WITH MY FELLOW  COMMISSIONERS THAT I SEE NO  POINT AND FORMING THIS  COMMITTEE UNTIL WE KNOW THEY  HAVE WORK TO DO. THAT A SMEAR.  >> YEAH, I UNDERSTAND  EVERYBODY'S CONCERNS BUT WHY  NOT PUT A COMMITTEE IN PLACE  THAT WOULD BE THE VOICE OF THE  CITIZENS THAT HELP US WE SEE  AN UP STUFF ON FACEBOOK WHY  NOT HAVE A COMMITTEE IN PLACE  TO HELP GIVE US SOME GUIDANCE  ON GOING FORWARD TO WHERE THEY  CAN GO OUT BE THE VOICE.  FACEBOOK AND SAY HEY THIS IS  WHAT WE'RE CREATING THIS AT  OTHER WE'RE HELPING WHERE ITS  CITIZENS BOUND. IT JUST MAKES  SENSE TO HAVE A COMMITTEE OF  THE CITIZENS TO BE ABLE TO  DISCUSS THESE PROJECTS GOING  FORWARD EVEN IT IS JUST  ADMINISTRATION. YOU TALK ABOUT  THIS IS WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE  THIS IS  ♪ WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WE  NEED MONEY FOR THE WEIRD  WHATEVER THE CASE  ♪ MAY BE.  >> YOU HAVE CITIZEN INPUT.  >> AND DAMMIT I MOVE THAT  CHAIR AGAIN BUT  >> BUT I THINK THE COMMITTEE  IS STILL IMPORT.  >> I APPRECIATE PLACE CITY  CLERK WOULD YOU LIKE TO WEIGH  IN I'M SORRY.  >> IT'S A RESPONSE VICE MAYOR  MARCH. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY  WHAT THE COMMITTEE'S RULES AND  RESPONSIBILITIES ARE. I DON'T  KNOW IF IT IS IF THEY CAN DO  SOMETHING PRIOR TO. THANK YOU,  SITTING THE PROCESS. I DON'T  KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE ROLES  RESPONSIBILITIES ARE SO I  DON'T KNOW IF THEY COULD  TECHNICALLY DO THAT WITHOUT  THE CITY MANAGER CONFIRMING  THAT THAT IS ONE OF THE ROLES  AND RESPONSIBILITIES COULD  COULD BE MODIFIED THERE THAT'S  ALL COULD THAT'S WHAT I'M  SAYING BASED ON.  >> THE PRESENT DEFINITION OF  THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES  OF THAT. THAT MANAGEMENT  COMMUNITY.  THEY HAVE ALL FARDY. 2.  ENGAGE IN WHETHER OR NOT A  SPECIFIC PROJECT. WOULD BE  FINANCED OR NOT FINANCED.  CITIZENS IN GENERAL TO I MEAN  CERTAINLY PUBLIC INPUT. IT'S  THERE BUT THE COMMUNITY ITSELF  WASN'T GIVEN CORRECT WAS NOT  GIVEN THAT AUTHORITY AT LEAST  IN THE ROLES AND  RESPONSIBILITIES WE LAID THEY  DO FOR HALF AUTHORITY. TO  CLARIFY A LITTLE ON ON WHAT  COMMISSIONER LANGDON TOUCHED  ON. THEY DO HAVE AUTHORITY TO  REVIEW THE DEBT MANAGEMENT  POLICY ON A  PERIODIC BASIS. BUT I ALWAYS  WE MAY WELL HAVE SOME SPECIAL  ABOUT. WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT  TO MAINTAIN THAT THAT  MANAGEMENT POLICY AS A POLICY  WHICH IS SUBJECT TO REVIEW AND  CHANGE BY COMMISSION WITH  PUBLIC INPUT OR WEATHER. PARTS  OF IT MAY FIND ITSELF IN SOME  OTHER VENUE WHETHER IT'S A  CHARTER OR NOT ALL I'M NOT  WE'LL ENSURE THAT WE HAVE ANY  REAL CLARITY ON. HOW WILL THIS  COMMITTEE WOULD EVENTUALLY  WORK SO IT'S NOT TO SAY WE  DON'T NEED IT. IT'S JUST WE'VE  GOT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE  I LOOK AND WE ARE JUST TABLE  THIS ITEM WHICH ARE NO ACTION  MOVE ON DIDN'T THE NEXT AGENDA  WHICH IS NOT EVEN GOING TO GET  THE SIGN HERE TODAY BUT  PROCESS OVER A PERIOD OF. I  SOME MONTHS OLD LEAST WE CAN  REVISIT THIS. BECAUSE  THOUSANDS POLLS IT JUST. YOU  KNOW GOT TO BE IN THE REGULAR  I THINK.  >> MISTER MAYOR WE WE DIDN'T  WANT THERE TO BE A STOLE  CONSENSUS ON THE BOARD SAY NO  NO GO DO IT NOW BUT IT BEEN  GOOD TO GET THAT THE BACK AND  THEN WE WASTE TIME OF IT WHAT  IT WILL THAT TO US THOUGHT  ABOUT QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT  YOU SHOULD ALSO CONTINUES THE  REQUIREMENTS. THANK YOU. ELSE  HAVE ANYTHING. THE PUBLIC  COMMENT.  >> SO SEE HIM. SET THE SHOW  FOR A BIT. COOL.  ♪ ♪ OKAY IN A MINUTE WAIT YEAR.  >> MAYOR, QUICK  ♪ ♪ PIZZA  >> THAT COULD GET YOU THERE  MORE QUICKLY WITHOUT BEING  STUCK IN TRAFFIC WHEN YOU'RE  MAKING EVACUATION PLAN. WE  USUALLY TELL YOU 4 DIFFERENT  THINGS YOU SHOULD STAY HOME IF  YOU ARE NOT IN HIS OWN THAT'S  BEING EVACUATED AND IF YOUR  HOME IS BUILT TO WITHSTAND THE  FORECASTED STORM IF YOU CAN  STAY HOME. AND YOU EVACUATE  YOUR NEXT OPTION SHOULD BE TO  GO TO A FRIEND OUR FAMILY'S  HOME THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THE  EVACUATION AREA AND IT IS  STRUCTURALLY SOUND TO US AND  THE STORM OPTION WOULD BE GO  TO A HOTEL. THEY'RE MUCH MORE  COMFORTABLE THAN I'VE  ACCUSATION. CENTER'S 4TH  OPTION WOULD BE TO GO TO ONE  OF OUR EVACUATION CENTER  SARASOTA COUNTY HAS FALLEN  BACK AWAY SHUNS CENTER'S.  THOSE CAN BE FOUND ON THEIR  WEBSITE.  ♪ >> I'M STACEY LOVES OF  EMERGENCY MANAGER FOR CITY  NORTHWARD AND I'M GOING  DISCUSS FIRST RESPONDERS AFTER  STORM, SO IT MAY TAKE A WHILE  FOR RESPONDERS TO GET THE  STORM AND DUE TO A VARIETY OF  REASONS. ONE ALL FIRST  RESPONDERS OFF THE ROADS, THE  TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS ARE  SUSTAINED FOR THEIR SAFETY  THAT IS A STANDARD USUALLY  COSTS AND OTHER SO WE WILL  HAVE A BACKLOG OF CALLS THAT  HAVE COME IN DURING THE STORM  THAT WILL PRIORITIZE BASED ARE  GOING TO ANOTHER RESPONDING TO  AS WELL AS THE CALLS THAT ARE  CURRENTLY COMMUNICATOR. ALSO  ON THE ROADS MIGHT BE FLOODED.  THERE MIGHT BE DEBRIS IN THE  ROADS ARE TECHNICAL FIRST IN  TEAMS WILL BE GOING OUT RIGHT  AWAY TO CLEAR THE ROADS ANY  HOUSERS A SKILL THAT OUR  VEHICLES CAN GET THROUGH AND  RESPOND  ♪ THE CAUSE. JUST KEEP THAT IN  MIND WHEN YOU CALL AFTER  DISASTER FOR CITIZENS, WE ARE  COMING. WE ARE VERY IMPORTANT  AS WE CARE ABOUT OUR RESIDENT  AND THAT SAFETY BUT IT MAY  JUST TAKE A WHILE FOR US TO  GET TO THE SCENE AND THAT THAT  CORRECT.  ♪ >> EVERYONE MY NAME IS MARIO  OF NVIDIA I AM THE PLAN OR  SCHEDULE OR FOR THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT SOLID WASTE A  GOOD INTO THIS POSITION. FIRST  I WAS RECYCLE DRIVER FOR 5  YEARS FOR THE AND THEN I  BECAME THE PLAN A SCHEDULE  AFTER TAKING AN INTEREST  EDUCATING RESIDENTS ON HOW TO  RECYCLE PROPERTY MY POSITION  MY DAY-TO-DAY USUALLY I START  OUT BY VISITING THE NEW  RESIDENTS THAT SCHEDULE  GARBAGE AND RECYCLING  CONTAINERS TO BE DELIVERED AND  I WILL GO SEE THEM AND EDUCATE  THEM ON A SOLID WASTE  GUIDELINES MORE LESS MORE  FOCUSED RECYCLE PART OF AFTER  THAT I WILL DRIVE AROUND THE  CITY AND I ACTUALLY EXPECT  RECYCLED  ♪ CONTAINERS MANUALLY. FOR  CONTAMINATION. AND THEN I WILL  TAKE CALLS FROM DRIVERS IF  THERE'S ANY ISSUES WITHOUT  REPEAT. GARBAGE CYCLE AND I  WILL GO EDUCATE THE WHAT I  LOVE MOST  ♪ ABOUT THE CITY PORT  ♪ IS THERE ARE FROM ALL OVER THE  WORLD. I GET TO LEARN ABOUT  THE SOLID WASTE GUIDELINES  WHEN THEY COME FROM AS WELL AS  EDUCATE THEM ON THE CITY NORTH  PORT'S ALWAYS GUIDELINES HOW  TO RECYCLE PROPERLY.  ♪ ♪ >> DECIDED TO BECOME A  FIREFIGHTER USED TO WORK  HOSPITALITY AND GROUP SALES  AND I ALWAYS HAD FRIENDS THAT  WORK. FIREFIGHTERS AND I  DECIDED ONE DAY THAT I WANTED  AND MY JOB DONE PEOPLE SO.  >> I WENT AHEAD UT AND  PARAMEDIC PROGRAM WITH THE  FIRE AND  ♪ I SAW A NORTH WE'RE HIRING.  AND REALLY LIKED WHAT THEY HAD  ON THEIR BETWEEN THEIR ISO  RATING BELIEFS AND VALUES AND  EVERYTHING 5, THEY GAVE ME AN  OPPORTUNITY EVERY DAY IS  DIFFERENT BUT FOR THE MOST  PART NEW START OFF THE SAME.  ♪ WHAT WAS GET OUR YEAR ONTO  THE.  >> BRAD US MAKE SURE  EVERYTHING'S OPERATIONAL A  ♪ >> CAR AIRBAG. ALSO CHECKED  INVENTORY. MAKE SURE WE HAVE  ALL OUR MEDICAL EQUIPMENT.  EVERYTHING'S THAT WAY YOU CAN  RESPOND TO ANY EMERGENCY SO  WE'RE ALWAYS STOCKED AND READY  TO I THINK THE BEST PART IS  THAT EVERYONE'S PASSION ABOUT  THEIR JOB. SO THEY COME TO  WORK AND THEY'RE READY TO  TRAIN. TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER  AND TEACH EACH OTHER SO  EVERYONE SHARPENED ON THEIR A  GAME SO IT MAKES IT OFTEN AND  I JUST LOOK FORWARD TO COME TO  WORK.  ♪ >> I'M STACEY LOS SALE AND THE  EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT  COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT AND I'M GOING TO  TELL YOU THE DIFFERENCE  BETWEEN FLOOD ZONES AND  EVACUATION ZONES ARE IN  SARASOTA COUNTY. WE CALL THEM  EVACUATION LEVELS. SO FLOOD  ZONES ARE GENERATED BY FEMA  AND THEY'RE USED TO DETERMINE  THE LIKELIHOOD THAT YOU'LL  FLOOD AND THEY'RE USED TO  ♪ DETERMINE IF YOU NEED FLOOD  INSURANCE IF YOU HAVE A  MORTGAGE ON YOUR HOME. NOW THE  EVACUATION ZONES ARE BASED ON  STORM SURGE DATA THAT COMES  FROM THE NATIONAL HURRICANE  CENTER. AND THEY USE  TOPOGRAPHY AS WELL AS  HURRICANE VULNERABILITY FOR  STORM SURGE FOR THE AREA AND  WE USE THOSE TO DETERMINE WHO  NEEDS TO EVACUATE DURING A  STORM SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO  UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A  DIFFERENCE IF YOU'RE  INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT WHAT  EVACUATION ZONE YOU ARE AND  WHICH WE HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU  DO. YOU CAN USE YOUR SEARCH  ENGINE OF CHOICE. AND TYPE  SARASOTA COUNTY KNOW YOUR  LEVEL AND THAT WILL TAKE YOU  TO THE SARASOTA COUNTY  GOVERNMENT WEBSITE.  ♪ >> PROMISE ALWAYS MANAGES TO  THE NORTH PORT. HERE TODAY,  WITH MARY OF ANY PLAYER  SCHEDULE FOR THE CITY OF NORTH  PORT SOLID WASTE DIVISION  WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT  PICKUPS TODAY. I HAD A  SCHEDULED VOTE PICKUPS WHAT  SHOULD GO OUT AND WHAT SHOULD  NOT GO OUT TO THE CURRENT  WHERE TO PLACE THE ITEM TO  THEM WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU HAVE  MORE THAN WHAT A LOT OF CHIEF  OF THE YEAR PICK UP. SO I KNOW  WE CALL 9, 4, 1, 2, 4, 0, 8,  0, 50 TALK TO OUR CUSTOMER  SERVICE REPS THAT'S CORRECT  HOW TO PICKUP HOW ELSE CAN WE  DO THAT CAN ALSO GO ON A  WEBSITE NORTH PORT FL DOT GOV  CLICK ON SOLID WASTE AND FILL  OUT A BULK REQUEST FOR  EXCELLENT EXCELLENT SCENARIO  WHEN IN DOUBT. IF A PERSON  WANTS TO PLAY SET OUT WHAT  SHOULD TAKE PLACE OUT. WHAT'S  RIGHT THING WAS THE WRONG  THING BASICALLY FRANK ANYTHING  THAT DOESN'T FIT IN THE  CONTAINER THAT'S GARBAGE IS  GOING TO GO CURBSIDE GOING TO  STAY OFF DRIVEWAYS WHAT'S NOT  ACCEPT THAT IS TIRES  CHEMICALS.  >> STUFF LIKE THAT YOU CAN PUT  YARD WASTE OUT THAT'S  CONSIDERED BULK. BUT JUST MAKE  SURE IT'S SEPARATE FROM  GARBAGE PILE CONWAY SAYS A  SEPARATE PICKUP, SO WHAT  HAPPENS IF I USE ALL MY UP  BOTH THE COUNTRY COULD  QUESTION. SO YOU CAN HAVE MORE  BUT HAVE TO PAY IT CAN BE 1658  CUBIC YARD AND THAT'S LINKED  TIMES WITH TIME TIGHT DIVIDED  BY 27 IS ONE COULD BE COUNTED  ANY QUESTIONS OF COURSE LET'S  NOT GIVE US A CALL  941-240-8050.  >> WATER IN US WELL THAT'S  KIND OF THE DITCH. MY YOUR  HOUSE IS NOT FLOODING.  ♪ WITHIN US AFTER  ♪ STORM EVENT.  >> WATER SHOULD BE IN THAT  SWELL UP TO 72 HOURS AFTER THE  STORM. THAT ALLOWS THE FILTER  TO GET THE STUFF THAT CAME  ROOM AND THE ROAD OUT OF THE  WATER SO THAT WHEN REACHES THE  HABITAT IT NO LONGER HAS THOSE  CONTAMINANTS  ♪ IT ALSO PROVIDES OPPORTUNITY  TO SLOW DOWN WATERS SO THAT  THE WATER DOESN'T GO SO FAST  THAT THEIR ROADS. ROADWAYS OR  ANY OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE, SO  WHEN YOU SEE WATER IN ONLY YOU  KNOW UP TO 72 HOURS SINCE THE  ♪ LAST RAIN THAT IS NOT LETTING  THAT IS DOING ITS JOB.  >> I'M STACEY LOS YOU KNOW ON  THE EMERGENCY AND BE A PART IT  IS THEY ARE GOING SEE STORM  SURGE FLOODING OVER NEXT OR SO  STORM SURGE IS STRONG  SUSTAINED WINDS ARE CONSTANTLY  GOING OVER A LONG PERIOD OF  TIME OVER THE GOAL IS PUSHING  WATER UP ONTO WILL NOT HAPPEN.  THERE'S A LOT OF FLOODING A  LOT OF BEACH EROSION ALONG  TEACHER AND THE HOME. HOWEVER  THIS STORM CAN ALSO PUSH WATER  OF THE RIVER PUSHED THE MYAKKA  RIVER FOR INSTANCE, AGO AND  THEN THE WATER COMING  DOWNSTREAM FROM THE RIVER HAS  ORDERED TO DO.  EXCEPT  >> YES NEEDS TO ALREADY IT'S  1026 AND WE ARE BACK IN  SESSION. EVERYBODY IS PRESENT  ON THE COMMISSION EXCEPT FOR  COMMISSION WHERE PETROL WHO  SHOULD JOINING US MOMENTARILY  SO WITH THAT ALL LET'S MOVE ON  TO I THINK I HEARD A DOOR SLAM  SLEEVES ON ITS MOVE IN NEXT TO  GENERAL BUSINESS NUMBER  CIRSTEA 1, 6, 3, THIS IS  DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE  DIRECTION REGARDING THE CITY'S  INCLUSION OF REFERENDUM  QUESTIONS ON THE TELEPHONE  BOOK 3/11/2025. IN A CIVIL  ACTION. CITY MANAGER. IF YOU  WOULD BE SO  >> THANK YOU. MISTER MAYOR WAS  SO GOOD I COUNTING. SO MORNING  A MUNICIPAL ELECTION MARK THE  11TH 2025 FOR THE TOWN OF  LONGBOAT KEY. PROVIDES AN  OPPORTUNITY FOR OTHER  ENTITIES, BUT IT'S COUNTY TO  BRING ITEMS TO REFERENDUM. WE  SEEK. IF PROVIDE MEASURE PASS  THIS INFORMATION FOR  CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE  DIRECTED TO DO SO IT IS  EITHER. HAVE LITTLE BIT JUST A  SPECIAL IS FALL. THE DEADLINE  FOR AVERAGE AND BIDEN FOR THE  MARCH 11 SPECIAL ELECTION IS  JANUARY THE 3RD 2025 SO IS  TRULY ABOUT 30 DAYS FROM RIGHT  NOW OR THE DECISION TO BE  MADE. OFFICIALLY OF WHAT  ANYTHING YOU WOULD ADD ON  REFERENDUM. VERY SHORT AND NOT  IDEAL FOR ANYONE, BUT IT IS.  JULIE OUT OF OUR CONTROL. WE  BELIEVE THAT THIS IS AN  OPPORTUNITY TO GO BACK AND  SORT OF LISTEN TO WHAT THE  PEOPLE SAID IN ASK QUESTIONS  AND A DIFFERENT MATTER. STAFF  RECOMMEND THAT THE QUESTION IS  BROKEN IN TO PARTS OF DO YOU  WANT TO ALLOW BORROWING  AUTHORITY FOR DECLARED  EMERGENCIES. VERSUS TAKING OFF  TO BE ORIGINAL VERSION OF THE  FOR PUBLIC SAFETY  INFRASTRUCTURE.  >> THE  >> SO THE ONE QUESTION THAT  STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND IS THAT  YOU DO GO BACK. AND THAT'S  WHERE THAT BAR WITH 30. THEY  STILL THIS IS A COMMENT THAT  WE HEARD PUBLIC COMMENT  EARLIER. I STILL WOULD JUST  MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS AWARE  THAT THERE IS A WORD LIMIT TO  WHAT YOU CAN SAY IN THAT  QUESTION THAT QUESTION IS NOT  ALL INCLUSIVE QUESTION BELIEVE  IS LIMITED BY 75 WORDS PER  QUESTION IS YOU KNOW TRICKY TO  MAKE SURE THAT YOU WHAT YOU  WANT AND THEY'RE IN WHATEVER  YOU PUT IN YOUR DEBT MATCH THE  POLICY YOU PUT INTO YOUR  CHARTER OR 2 DIFFERENT. I  DON'T AS OPPOSED TO WHAT THE  QUESTION AND HOW IT READS SO  WE DID. DO LESS TIME AND WE  WILL DO THIS TIME OUR BEST TO  MAKE SURE THAT THE QUESTIONS  ARE AS ACCURATE AS THEY NEED  TO BE AND IS AS THEY CANDY.  THE SECOND THING I WOULD SAY  THIS THAT WOULD WHEN YOU  CONSIDER IS WE'RE NOW GOING TO  THE FISCAL CONDITION NOW TO  THE ECONOMIC IMPACT ANALYSIS  FROM OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR AND  USING THAT WITH SOME OF THE  CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT  THAT YOU KNOW IT TO NEEDS TO  BE DONE OVER THE NEXT. SEVERAL  YEARS. IN ADDITION TO JUST THE  5 YEAR CIP THAT YOU AS A  COMMISSION SEE DURING THE  BUDGET PROCESS. SO WE NEED TO  MARRY THOSE 2 I TOGETHER AND  SEE IF THERE AN IMMEDIATE ASK  OR THE CITIZENS PROJECTS THAT  NEED TO ACCOMPLISHED THAT NEED  TO HAVE A DECISION IN A BOAT  OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS.  SO GET THAT NUMBER COME WE  ADVISE YOU AS WELL WE CAN  ALONG WITH ABOUT I WOULD  ENCOURAGE YOU INCLUDE THAT  AMOUNT AS A BUDGET AS YOU MAY  KNOW THE REFERENDUM QUESTION  ON THE BALLOT TO ASK FOR THAT  NEED BECAUSE NOW WE SHOULD BE  VISITING THE CITIZENS WITH THE  CHOICE OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE  NEED BECAUSE WE TOLD THEM WE  ASKED THEM TO VOTE IN NOVEMBER  THAT WE HAVE PROJECTS THAT  NEED HELP FINANCIALLY. AND THE  3RD THING I WOULD SAY THAT WE  CAN MISTER THIS OPPORTUNITY IS  THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY.  ASK FOR WHAT DO WE WANT TO  BORROW OR A POLICE  HEADQUARTERS. YOU WILL  ACTUALLY HAVE THE MEETING ON  DECEMBER THE TENT WHERE WE  WILL TALK TO YOU DURING YOUR  FIRST AND ONLY MISSION MEETING  IN THE MONTH OF DECEMBER.  ABOUT THE FINAL ONE OF FINAL  DESIGN PLAYING OF THE CURVE.  WE'VE IT'S A SO ONCE YOU SEE  THAT AND HAVE THAT  CONVERSATION THAT MAY IN TURN  ALLOW THEM TO SAY YES, WE  WOULD LIKE TO PUT OUT ON THE  BALLOT FOR. AGAIN THE PROBLEM  WITH THAT IS WHATEVER YOU  DECIDE THERE'S VERY LITTLE  TIME TO GO OUT IN COMMUNICATE.  AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT NUMBER  IS TRULY UNDERSTOOD SO WE ARE  WE'RE DEFINITELY UP AGAINST  THIS YEAR BUT WE'RE SEEKING  DIRECTIONS THOUGHTS TODAY  ABOUT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO AND  YOU WILL HAVE MULTIPLE TO TALK  ABOUT THIS PROBABLY BEFORE WE  GET TO THE JANUARY 30  DEADLINE. COMMISSIONER  QUESTIONS DISCUSSION. AND WE  HAVE PLACE MUCH. IT EXPLAINED  EARLIER WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS  THIS MORE IN DETAIL ON UP.  >> SO WHAT'S IN THE WANTS AND  EVERYTHING LIKE THAT POSSIBLY  TOMORROW AND ON THAT AGAIN AND  STUFF. QUESTION THAT I HAVE  IS. WHEN WE FIRST PUT IT OUT  THERE WE PUT IT OUT FOR  EMERGENCY RECOVERY. NOW CAN WE  PUT UP. IF IT IS A YOU KNOW  BAD STORM OR WHATEVER THE CASE  MAY BE AND FEMA IS INVOLVED.  AND IF WE BORROW CAN WE TAG  HAS. FEMA WILL REIMBURSE AT  LONE, WE MAY HAVE TO MAKE  PAYMENTS ALONG TILL. FEMA  COMES THROUGH, BUT THIS WAY OR  BORROWING LET'S SAY  15 MILLION. MUST BECAME A  GIVES US 10 MILLION OTHER 15  THAT 10 MILLION AUTOMATICALLY.  APPLAUSE TO THE LONG TO GET  THAT THAT RATIO DOW. WHAT  WOULD THAT BE PART OF THE  SITUATION. OR COULD IT BE.  >> WILL NOW BE ABLE SERVE AS  BUT DOESN'T AMOUNT ON THE  PAYING BACK YES. OH YES, SO  THE EARMARK THAT MONEY FOR  PAYING THAT WANTS WHAT WE  WOULD SAY IS THAT UNDER NORMAL  CONDITIONS.  >> A STORM THAT IS THE CITY  WE.  >> OR THE MOVE THEN REIMBURSE  FOR WE CAN MAKE FOR THE BEST  REALLY UNDERSTOOD THAT AGAIN  LESS HUMID OUT OF MONEY OR  SOMETHING EXTRAORDINARY  HAPPENS THAT'S HOW MOST OF  THAT MONEY WOULD BE PAID BACK.  YOU KNOW OUT OF THE CITIZENS.  CONTROL AHEAD OF THIS VERY  BECAUSE WE TRY TO MAKE SURE  THAT WE ALTHOUGH THE TEAM I  WANT THAT ARE VERY STRICT TO  MAKE SURE THAT WE DO QUALIFY  REIMBURSEMENT. BUT IF THERE IS  A GAP BETWEEN THAT AND THEN WE  HAVE THE CITY WAS SORT OF YOU  KNOW THAT IN THE NETHERLANDS  ASKED OR QUESTION OR THE  DECLARATION OF EMERGENCY  QUESTION IS THIS IS GOING TO  SAY IF YOU DID NOT HAVE THE  MONEY TO PAY FOR APPOINTMENT  YOU COULD GO IS A FINANCIAL  TOOL THAT ALLOW YOU TO GET THE  MONEY TO PAY FORS AND THEN  YOU'LL BE PAYBACK AND THEN  THAT IS THAT USUALLY PAY BACK.  IN THEORY. BUT YOU SAID WE DO  WHAT WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT  THIS IN AN ENGINE TOMORROW.  THE STRATEGIC PLANNING  SESSIONS INVOLVED IN WITH THE  2 NEW COMMISSIONERS WE NEED TO  MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MOVING  IN THE DIRECTION OF THE  CONSENSUS OF WHERE THIS FALLS  WITHIN THE PRIORITY SKIING  WHAT WE NEED TO DO OVER THE  NEXT COUPLE YEARS.  >> JUST WANTED TO HAVE THAT  CONVERSATION ON IF WE'RE  PUTTING THIS OUT THERE ON WE  WANT TO BORROW MONEY THEY'RE  GOING TO WANT TO KNOW HOW IT'S  PAYBACK SO IF IT IS AN  EMERGENCY AND WE DO HAVE MONEY  COMING LESS SAFE FROM FEMA.  THAT GETS OUR DEBT RATIO BACK  DOWN AGAIN BECAUSE WE'RE GOING  TO APPLY THOSE FUNDS TO IT,  IT'S JUST PART OF THE  CONVERSATION ALL I WANT GET AT  WITH THAT AND I KNOW WE'VE HAD  ONE ON AND TALK ABOUT STUFF  BUT ON THE TOWN'S WILL TALK  ABOUT THE PDM AND MOVE FORWARD  ON THAT. NOW HOW MANY  QUESTIONS REFERENDUM QUESTIONS  ARE WE LOOKING AT TRYING TO  PUT OUT THERE. IN MARCH.  >> READ THAT I RECOMMEND IT I  THINK IT KEEPS US WITH AN  ALIGNMENT MIGHT NEED THE THAT  PUT THE HELPING OUT BUT I  THINK THAT KEEP THIS IN  ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT WE PAY FOR  ORIGINALLY WHICH WILL BE  UPWARDS ABOUT $90,000 BUT THE  MORE QUESTIONS YOU THAT AND  THE MORE SPACE TAKES UP AND  YOU SORT OF GO OVER WHAT THEY  SELECT 8. IT WOULD REQUIRE  ADDITIONAL FUNDING BUT I'M NOT  SAYING THAT SHOULD BE A REASON  FOR YOU NOT TO PUT AS MANY  QUESTIONS ON WE JUST WANT TO  SURE THAT YOU'RE STANDING NOT  ONLY THE CHALLENGE AND THE YOU  KNOW PUBLIC HAVING TO READ A  LINK TO THE AMOUNT OF  QUESTIONS BUT AS WELL AS THE  COST TO ANY OF QUESTIONS AS  WELL.  >> SOMETIMES ASKING FOR MORE  IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH AND KEEPING  IT SIMPLE MIGHT BE THE BEST  ANSWER WE'LL HAVE THOSE  DISCUSSIONS IN THE FUTURE I  JUST KNOW HOW MANY ARE LOOKING  AT AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT 3.  >> PROBABLY MORE POSSIBLY LAST  BETTING ACCOUNTS YES, SIR, AND  I'LL TELL YOU HOW I GOT TO  MOVE FORWARD.  >> I REALLY WERE BECAUSE. WE  TOLD THE PUBLIC ALL RIGHT, BUT  TOLD ME THAT WE NEED THE BAR  FOR THAT EMERGENCY SNOW WE'RE  GOING TO ASK YOU IN A WAY THAT  SEPARATES IT BECAUSE WE ARE  THE PEOPLE OF THE PEOPLE SPOKE  THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT TO TALK  ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE WITH  FAILING AND WE NEEDED REPAIR  OR REPLACEMENT. SO WE NEED TO  GET YOU SOMETHING IN FRONT OF  YOU AND THIS IS THE FIRST  CHANCE POSSIBLE TO SAY THIS IS  WHAT WE NEED TO THIS IS WHY WE  NEEDED AND GET THEIR SUPPORT.  >> THE 3RD IF WE DON'T HAVE A  NOTHER ELECTED TO PIGGYBACK  OFF OF WITH THE POLICE HAD PUT  A CONVERSATION.  >> WHICH WE WANT BRING RIGHT  BACK TO THE PUBLIC AFTER THE  ELECTION. LITTLE BIT QUICKER  THAN I HAD IMAGINED, BUT WE  TOLD THE PUBLIC THAT THAT WAS  IMPORTANT AS WELL, SO WE DON'T  HAVE ANOTHER ELECTION THAT  BACK ONTO THE BOTTOM WAITING  ALL OF 26. IS THAT ON THE  BALLOT NEXT ALMOST 2 YEARS  AGO. SO THAT'S WHAT THAT WAS  MY RATIONALE FOR SAYING  QUESTIONS TODAY.  >> AND THAT'S THIS ONE'S FOR  THE CITY CLERK. NOW I KNOW WE  HAD DISCUSSED EARLIER THAT  THERE MIGHT BE A POSSIBLE.  ANOTHER ELECTION COME NEXT  NOVEMBER. AND DID THAT NOT GO  THROUGH WITH NSA'S WHERE THEY  WERE GOING TO CHANGE THEIR  ELECTIONS TOO.  >> THERE'S ANNUALLY ANY LONGER  BUT OKAY, SO THAT THAT WOULD  BE 26 AGAIN IT'S OKAY THAT I  THAT WAS A POSSIBILITY I JUST  IN CASE WE CAN GO FROM MARCH  TO NOVEMBER WITH MORE PLANNED.  THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW  SO THAT'S ALL I THANK YOU.  COMMISSIONER LANGDON.  >> THANK YOU MAYOR BOY I HAVE  A LOT OF.  >> IT SWIRLING SO. MY MY  INITIAL THOUGHT IS I HAVE NO  APPETITE FOR A REFERENDUM. I  JUST REALLY DON'T. AND PART OF  THE REASON FOR THAT.  >> IS.  >> WE WERE VERY CLOSE WITH  THIS REFERENDUM AT AND I'VE  HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH  STAFF ALREADY. HAD WE BEEN  ABLE TO START EARLIER AND I'M  NOT POINTING THE FINGER AT  ANYBODY. BUT HAD WE BEEN ABLE  TO START EARLIER WITH OUR  COMMUNITY OUTREACH IN OUR  INFORMATIONAL PROGRAMS I THINK  WE WOULD HAVE GOT IT. SO  BETWEEN NOW AND MARCH. WE DO  NOT HAVE I'M TO DO THAT NOT  NOW I'VE GOTTEN THAT OFF MY  CHEST.  >> SO.  >> BEYOND THAT. I I I THINK WE  SHOULD.  >> BUT A REFERENDUM TO BE ABLE  TO BORROW AND SITUATIONS AND  DECLARED EMERGENCY. I THINK  IT'S PRETTY CLEAR. AND THE  CONVERSATIONS WITH HAD AND THE  PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT WE HAVE  RECEIVED THAT THAT ONE FOR MY  COMMUNITY POINT OF VIEW IT'S A  NO-BRAINER. THE POLICE  HEADQUARTERS. WE WE SHOULD PUT  IT ON. I HAVE NO CONFIDENCE IT  WOULD PASS. NUMBERS IT WOULD  DEPEND A LOT I THINK ON THE  NUMBERS AND WE WOULD HAVE TO  DO A LOT OF EDUCATION. THE  SOURCES OF FUNDS FIRST TIME  THROUGH WE DID IDENTIFY. SOME.  CONTRIBUTOR KIDS TO THAT  NUMBER.  >> SO WHAT'S THAT DON'T TELL.  >> THAT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING  FOR. AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO  FUND IT IS MILLAGE RATE  INCREASE WHAT IS IT.  >> I COULD SEE PUTTING  >> THAT ON.  >> THE.  >> REFERENDUM BUT WE DON'T  HAVE AND THAT TIME TO EDUCATE  AROUND IT SO I'M REALLY I  WOULD BE VERY CONCERNED WITH  ITS ABILITY TO PASS. HAVING  SOMETHING ON THE WITH A NUMBER  OF PROJECTS SORT OF LIKE A  GROUP I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT  THAT I'VE HEARD A LOT OF  CONVERSATION FROM FOLKS THAT  WE SHOULD HAVE EACH INDIVIDUAL  PROJECT AND WHAT THE COMMUNITY  VOTE ON THE INDIVIDUAL  PROJECTS PERSONAL WAY I THINK  THAT'S NONSENSE. SO IT REALLY  BEGS THE QUESTION. WHO IS THE  BEST POSITION TO HELP US  IDENTIFY. WHAT THE REALLY  CRUCIAL PROJECTS ARE WHAT  INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN IMMINENT  DANGER OF FAILURE. I WANT TO  SAY THAT LAST. AND WHAT'S THE  IMPACT IF WE DO NOTHING. AND  WATER STRUCTURE X Y Z FAILS.  THERE'S A FLOOD COMMUNITY.  WHAT COMMUNITY AS A TAKE OUT A  BRIDGE. MY SENSE. WHEN I THINK  ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE  REFERENDUM. IS. PEOPLE WERE  MAKING A LACK OF CONFIDENCE IN  GOVERNMENT DECISION THEY WERE  MAKING A WE DON'T WANT TO  SPEND THE MONEY DECISION. I  DON'T KNOW THAT WE REALLY DID  A GOOD JOB OF DESCRIBING. WHAT  ARE THE IMPLICATIONS OF DOING  NOTHING. SO WHAT WHAT'S THE  POTENTIAL IMPACT TO THE  COMMUNITY. IF WE DON'T REPLACE  A CERTAIN BRIDGE OR WE DON'T  REPLACE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF  WATER CONTROL STRUCTURES AND  THEY FAIL. WHAT DOES THAT  IMPACT HOW DOES IMPACT IS  THERE A LOSS OF LIFE. I THINK  THIS YEAR WE ARE GOING TO BE  FACING SOME REALLY DIFFICULT  BUDGET DECISIONS. WHAT ARE WE  NOT GOING TO FUN. WHAT ARE WE  GOING TO CAUGHT. POLICE AND  FIRE ARE THE 2 LARGEST  CONSUMERS OF THE SO ARE WE  REALLY PREPARED TO SAY CHIEF  TITUS WE'RE GOING TO DO A  MORATORIUM ON ANY FIRE  STATIONS ARE IN A NEW HIRING.  IF THAT'S WHAT THIS COMMISSION  DECIDES WHAT'S THE IMPLICATION  OF THAT SO RIGHT NOW I THINK  IT'S A 7 MINUTE RESPONSE RATE.  ONE OF THE THINGS WE DISCUSSED  IN AN EARLIER MEETING IS THE  FACT THAT OUR FIRE AND RESCUE  HAS A WAY HIGHER AND THE  NATIONAL AVERAGE WHEN THEY  COME ON SCENE. AND SOMEONE HAS  NO HIGH THE A P AND HEIDI  SITUATIONS AND I KNOW CHIEF  TITUS CAN CORRECT ME BUT MY  MEMORY IS. WE HAVE LIKE A 45%  SURVIVAL RATE IN THOSE  SITUATIONS. NATIONAL AVERAGE  IS LIKE 19 OR 20, I KNOW CHIEF  TITUS. GOOD OKAY. IF WE FREEZE  HIRING AND I'M JUST USING THIS  AS AS AN EXAMPLE. AND NOW  INSTEAD OF A 7 MINUTE RESPONSE  WE HAVE A 10 OR 12 OR 15  MINUTE RESPONSE.  >> DOES OUR SURVIVAL RATE GO  FROM 45% TO 35%. AND THAT  MEANS 8 PEOPLE IN THE CITY DIE  OVER A TWO-YEAR PERIOD. IS  THAT OKAY. SO I I'M BEING A  LITTLE BIT OVERLY DRAMATIC.  BUT I THINK IT'S  REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE DO A  BETTER JOB ALL OF US. WE DO A  BETTER JOB OF SAYING TO THE  COMMUNITY REALLY LAYING IT  OUT. HERE ARE THE IMPLICATIONS  IF WE DON'T FIX SOMETHING AND  FAILS OR IF WE DON'T FIND  SOMETHING.  >> WHAT DOES THAT MEAN IN  TERMS OF SERVICE INTERRUPTION  LOTS OF WHAT LOSS OF PROPERTY  AND CREASED. RATES OF THE  RAIDS WHATEVER IT IS.  >> WE NEED TO PAINT THAT  PICTURE. OR WE SAY OKAY. PUT  EVERYTHING OFF.  >> BUT 2 YEARS AND SOMETHING  FAIL AND THEN PEOPLE WILL HAVE  A REALLY GOOD IDEA OF YOU KNOW  WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT I  DON'T WANT TO GO THERE. BUT I  THINK WE REALLY NEED TO  ARTICULATE EVALUATE AND  ARTICULATE. WHAT A DELAY OR  REDUCTION OF SERVICE.  >> MEANS TO THIS COMMUNITY.  >> TO BEFORE WE CAN MAKE A  DECISION ANYWAY, I'M GETTING  OFF MY SOAPBOX BUT I WOULD  JUST CONCLUDE BY SAYING THAT  HAVING MEMBERS OF THE  COMMUNITY DECIDE WHICH  PROJECTS ARE MOST IMPORTANT TO  DO NOW. THEY MAY OR MAY NOT BE  RIGHT. WE HAVE FOLKS ON STAFF.  EVERY DAY A MONTH AND MONTH  OUT THIS IS WHAT THEY MONITOR  THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE CONCERNED  WHEN ASKED.  >> STAFF SHOULD SAY WHAT WITH  OUR INPUT. WHAT ARE THOSE  CRITICAL PROJECTS, NOT A LOT  CHERRY PICKING. THIS IS WHAT  THEY ARE. AND IF THEY FAIL  HERE IN THE IMPLICATIONS TO  THE CITY. I DON'T THINK WE DID  THAT FIRST TIME. AND I DON'T  KNOW THAT WE HAVE TIME TO DO  IT FROM FISH. SO ANYWAY.  THAT'S WHERE I'M. COMING  >> I HAVE AGREE WITH  COMMISSIONER BUT YOU KNOW THE  TIMING RIGHT NOW. CREDIT AND  SHE MAY BE RIGHT. NO TO COME  BACK WITH. 2 QUESTIONS. RIGHT  AWAY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SAY  JUST DID THAT WE SAID NO. BUT  DEFINITELY BELIEVE AT LEAST  THE EMERGENCY. THAT SHOULD BE  BROUGHT BACK AND WE CAN DO A  JOB. I SPOKE OF MY CAMPAIGN I  SPOKE AGAINST THE REFERENDUM.  AND I HAD A REASON TO. BUT IF  IT'S DONE CORRECTLY. AND I  BELIEVE WE CAN PASS AND I WILL  SPEAK FOR. AND ALSO. I HAVE  YOU KNOW THIS. AGENDA, YOU  KNOW MENTIONS YOU KNOW  REFERENDUM QUESTIONS. I HAVE A  COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS I WOULD  LIKE TO SEE ON THE REFERENDUM.  THIS IS MY IDEA CITY MANAGER  I'VE ALREADY SPOKEN TO HIM  ABOUT THIS. NUMBER ONE IS YOU  KNOW WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING  FOR A NEW CITY ATTORNEY. AND  WE HAVE A PROBLEM OR CITY  CLERK AND CITY ATTORNEY YOU'RE  REQUIRED TO LOOK CHARTER  REQUIRED TO LIVE IN THE CITY.  >> WE HAVE A AN INNER ROOM.  CITY ATTORNEY WHO HAS A YOU  KNOW ISSUE.  >> WITH LIVING IN THE CITY. IF  WE TOOK.  >> THAT REQUIREMENT. CHARTER.  >> FOR THE CITY. IN THE CITY  ATTORNEY TO LIVE IN THE CITY.  THAT WOULD BE THE DETRIMENT I  DON'T SEE ANY DETRIMENT. AND  THEY'RE BOTH INTERNAL JOBS  INTO  CITY HALL THEY GET HERE IN THE  MORNING OR WHEN THEY HAVE A  MEETING BY.  BUT IF WE DON'T TAKE THOSE  THERE'S A POSSIBILITY WE COULD  LOSE A GOOD CANDIDATE. FOR  THAT. PERMANENT POSITION.  SECONDLY. I HAVE ANOTHER  REFERENDUM QUESTION I'D LIKE  TO SEE  >> AND THAT IS.  >> COMMISSIONER.  >> AROUND 2018. COMMISSION  PAPER THAT FORMULA THAT  INCLUDES POPULATION. LOT MORE.  AND I'VE I WAS AGAINST A  AGAINST IT NOW. SO THE  COMMISSION IS JUST RAISED.  COMMISSION PAY BUT I BELIEVE  NOW IT'S UP AROUND $55,000. I  WOULD LIKE TO SEE. FOR ME IT  WOULD GO AWAY. A REFERENDUM  QUESTION THAT WE PUT THE.  COMMISSIONERS PAY INTO THE  CITY CHARTER. RATE AND I  BELIEVE THE $55,000 IS A FAIR  RATE AND THEN AFTER THAT EACH  YEAR IT'S ADJUSTED PER THE  CPI. THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.  >> DESTROYING  >> THANK YOU MAYOR.  >> I HEAR YOU COMMISSIONER  ABOUT HAVE A COUPLE OF  SUGGESTIONS. ONE IS THE ISSUES  PRETENDING TO THE CITY  ATTORNEY I I REALLY THINK ARE  BEYOND THE SCOPE OF. THIS  MORNING'S CONVERSATION AND  THAT WE MIGHT BRING THAT UP  AGAIN IN OUR WORKSHOP. WHEN WE  TALK ABOUT.  >> THE HIRING I THINK THAT  WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD TIME TO  DISCUSS ALL OF THE YOU KNOW  OPTIMIZING OUR OPPORTUNITIES  TO ATTRACT A TOP NOTCH CITY  ATTORNEY. SO THAT WOULD BE MY  SUGGESTION WITH THAT COMMENT.  COMMISSIONER PAY. THE PREVIOUS  COMMISSION MADE A DECISION. I  STATE STATUE WE CANNOT CHANGE  THE PAY YOU CAN'T MAKE ANY  CHANGES UNTIL AFTER THE NEXT  ELECTION. SO THAT'S 2 YEARS  FROM NOW I THINK OUR  CONVERSATIONS WITH THE 3 OF US  HERE WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE  COMMISSIONER PAY WAS TO GO IN  THE DIRECTION OF CONSISTENT  SAY FOLLOWING STATE  RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN 2  YEARS FROM NOW BEFORE THE  ELECTION HAVE THE CONVERSATION  AGAIN BECAUSE I THINK THAT WAS  FAIRLY GENERAL AGREEMENT THAT  NONE OF US REALLY LIKED THE  POPULATION BASED A LOT. SO I  WOULD JUST SAY COMMISSIONER  DUVAL WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY  IN A COUPLE YEARS TO HAVE THAT  CONVERSATION AGAIN BECAUSE NO  CHANGES CAN BE MADE AT THIS  POINT UNTIL AFTER THE NEXT  ELECTION.  REPLACE MAYOR IMAGE.  >> YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO  TOUCH ON SAME 2 SUBJECTS AND I  THANK COMMISSIONER ALIGNED AND  HIT THE SECOND ONE ON THE PIE  YOU KNOW 25 WE'VE BEEN  DISCUSSING GOING INTO 26 OR  WHATEVER AND AND SET NEW TYPE  OF SYSTEM FOR THAT BUT AGAIN  THAT'S DOWN THE ROAD. BUT THE  ONE THING IF WE DO HAVE A  LARGER CONVERSATION ON. THE  ATTORNEY AND THE CITY CLERK  NOT MANDATORY TO LIVE IN THE  CITY. YOU HAVE 2 OUT OF 3 OF  THE CHARTER OFFICERS. YOU'RE  MANDATING THAT THE CITY  MANAGER MUST LIVE WITHIN THE  CITY, BUT THE OTHER 2, NOT SO  I THINK NEEDS TO BE EITHER THE  SAME ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE  BOARD AND PERSONALLY I  DEFINITELY WANT THE CITY  MANAGER TO BE LIVING IN THE  CITY TO SEE EVERYTHING THAT'S  GOING ON IN THIS CITY. SO.  >> WELL I JUST THINK THERE ARE  CHARTER OFFICERS.  >> THERE. YOU KNOW ARE OR  SPECIFIC OFFICERS COLOR, THE  ATTORNEY. YES, I THINK THEY  SHOULD AND I UNDERSTAND, BUT.  WITH MISTER GOING SITUATION. I  HATE TO HOLD SOMEBODY BACK FOR  POSITION THAT THEY ARE WELL  DESERVING OF BUT IT'S STILL A  PERSONAL CHOICE SO YOU'VE GOT  TO RESPECT THAT AS WELL. SO I  JUST WANT TO TOUCH BASE ON  THAT SUCH BROUGHT ABOUT. THE  CITY TO JUMP TO THE TOP.  >> JUST TO SORT OF GET BACK ON  COMING THROUGH ITS POINTS. DO  AGREE THE RESIDENCY  REQUIREMENT FOR YOUR CITY  MANAGER SHOULD NOT EVEN BE.  >> YOU KNOW ON THE TABLE THAT  HAS TO HAPPEN THERE'S NO WAY  TO THAT THE DECISION BASED ON  IS MANY TIMES THAT WE'RE  PUBLIC FACING INTERACTING WITH  OUR COMMUNITY THAT IS PERSON  SHOULD BE ANYWHERE ELSE THEY  NEED TO BE HERE. SO THAT THEY  CAN BE A PART OF THE CITIZENS  AND NEIGHBORS THAT WE ALL  CALL. PERSONALLY I'VE NEVER  SEEN MY TIME OUT OF CITY  ATTORNEY OR CITY COURT. THE IN  THOSE THEY PUBLIC FACE AND  WILL NOT SAY IT IS IMPOSSIBLE  NOT TO SAY THAT THEY BE CALLED  UPON AT A MOMENT'S NOTICE,  BUT. THEY TYPICALLY NOT ROLES  THAT HAVE THAT SAME PUBLIC  FACE INTERACTION, WHAT HAVE  ALLOWED THEM. YOU KNOW THE  PLACE THAT I'VE NOT BE TIED TO  A CHARTER CITY THAT THEY HAD  WITH THE PUBLICLY. THERE'S ALL  THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN  WITH COMMUNITY MIGHT SAY. WELL  WE'RE PAYING THEIR SALARY THAT  WE PAY SO MUCH OF SALARIES  THAT THEY SHOULD WANT TO BE  HERE OR YOU KNOW A DIFFERENT  SIDE OF OF A PERSPECTIVE BUT  WE JUST WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU  THERE A DEFINITE THAT WHAT  YOU'RE SAYING SIR. OLD  COMMISSIONER GOODELL WOULD  LIKE TO GO AHEAD.  >> AS THE CITY MANAGER JUST  SAID. CITY MANAGER, YOU KNOW  NOW AND IN THE FUTURE IS THE  FACE THE CITY. I BELIEVE THAT  REQUIREMENT YOU KNOW SHOULD  STAY CHARTER FOR THE CITY  MANAGER LIVE IN THE CITY. WE  HAVE OUR. FIRST RESPONDERS ARE  PLAYER. OUR POLICE. THEY ADD  THEY'VE NOT HAD ALL HAVE A  REQUIREMENT LIVE IN CITY. WHY  SHOULD OUR CITY CLERK AND OUR  CITY ATTORNEY. HAVE THAT  REQUIREMENT. THEY DON'T FACE  THE PUBLIC A LOT OF THE PUBLIC  WOULD KNOW WHO THEY ARE LET'S  SAY YOU KNOW PAY ATTENTION TO  IN OUR PARTICULAR SITUATION. I  HAVE SPOKEN TO. CITY STAFF.  AND I HAVE YET TO FIND ONE.  WHO HAS SAID. ANYTHING  NEGATIVE ABOUT OUR INTERIM  ATTORNEY.  >> AND WHETHER OR NOT.  >> HE WOULD BE A GOOD  CANDIDATE. AND I THINK.  >> JUST BECAUSE OF THIS  REQUIREMENT, THE POSSIBILITY  THAT WE COULD MOVES. A  VALUABLE CANDIDATE JUST  DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.  >> BUT A NUMBER WANT TO  COMMENT BUT ALL START RESPONSE  TO COMMISSIONER TO COMMENTS  ABOUT CITY ATTORNEY AND CITY  CLERK. I ALSO I I THINK THAT.  TO THINK THAT WITHIN OUR CITY  LIMITS. WE'RE GOING TO  FOLLOWING THE KIND OF TALENT  FOR THESE JOBS LITTLE WE SAID  EASY. 2. THERE WERE SO MANY  CIRCUMSTANCES FOR PROSPECTIVE  CANDIDATES THAT WOULD MAKE IT  EXTREMELY BURDENSOME ON THEM  AND THEIR FAMILIES TO HAVE TO  RELOCATE TO THE CITY IF THEY  WERE ALREADY ESTABLISHED IN  NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES TO ASK  SOMEONE TO DISPLACE THEIR  FAMILY RELOCATED KIDS IN  SCHOOL A WHOLE HOST OF REASONS  I THINK WE MISSED AN  OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE LEASE  TO POSITIONS WHERE THEY BECOME  AVAILABLE.  >> IT'S WHAT YOU KNOW TO TAKE  TO BE ABLE TO REACH OUTSIDE OR  CITY OR OR OR TO AT LEAST  ENTERTAIN CANDIDATES WHO WHO  GET WITH CLOSE BUT DON'T WANT  TO HAVE TO RELOCATE TO GO ALL  TO MOVE BUT HAMMER TO OVER SO  I ALSO AGREE I I THINK IT'S  SOMETHING THAT HAS TO CHANGE  WHETHER OR  >> WE SHOULD INJECT THIS INTO  A MARCH REFERENDUM OR NOT  BECAUSE IT WE HAVEN'T SIDE  WE'RE GOING TO GO REFERENDUM  IN MARCH.  >> IF WE YOU KNOW WE HAVE.  SOME EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.  TOPICS TO DISCUSS AS TO  WHETHER OR NOT THERE ARE ALL  THAT'S LEFT FOR ENGLAND. SO  WALL SURELY THINK IT'S  IMPORTANT I JUST QUESTION  WHETHER WE CAN DO THAT GET IT  ON MARCH.  >> AND AND MAKE IT EFFECTIVE  IN SUCH A WAY THAT WE CAN.  HOPES THE VACANCY ISSUE WE  HAVE WITH CITY ATTORNEY SPOT  SO.  >> YOU KNOW. I DON'T KNOW, I'M  JUMPING BACK TO SOME OF THINGS  WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER. YOU  KNOW. MISTER MADE SOME REALLY  POINTS AND DID EVERY  COMMISSIONER UP HERE THIS. WE  LITERALLY HAVE 30 DAYS. IF  WE'RE GOING TO HOLD A THERE'S  JUST NOT A LOT OF TIME AND.  PUT ON JUST THAT HALF OF THE  PUBLIC CITIZEN LOOKING AT THIS  SAYING. WHAT ARE WE RUSHING TO  I MEAN AS A COMMISSIONER WITH  THE COMMISSIONER HALF.  >> EVEN SEEING THE FALL OF  YOUR FINANCIAL PROJECTIONS  SILENCING THE CIP ANALYSIS.  >> I HAVE NO IDEA. STAFF SINCE  ON ANY INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS  THERE SO IT'S A CHUNK OF  DOLLARS IN THE BUDGET FOR  PRODUCTS THAT WE FUND THE I  DON'T KNOW WITH THE SRQ MANY  FOR MYAKKA HACHI BRIDGE AND A  COUPLE OF WATER STRUCTURES. I  DON'T KNOW WHERE STAFF STANCE  IN THE AREAS UTILITIES, PUBLIC  WORKS. ON WHETHER OR ALL  THERE'S NO MONEY IN THE KITTY  TO KEEP THE PIPELINE FOR THE  NEXT 24 TO 48 MONTHS. IF THERE  REALLY IS. WANT ASK. WHY SPEND  UNDERGRAD TO GO OUR CITIZENS  IN. A MONTH OR 2. LIKE YOU  KNOW THIS SHORT PERIOD OF  BEFORE A CHUNK OF MONEY THAT  WE MAY NOT EVEN SPENDING FOR  2, 3, 4, YEARS. BECAUSE WE  ONLY HAVE THE PHYSICAL  CAPACITY TO DO SO MANY  PROJECTS. I DON'T KNOW STAFF  IS PREPARED TO. TALK TO US  ABOUT THAT AT THE PRESENT TIME  AND WITHOUT SEEING THE  FIVE-YEAR FUNDING INTO  PROJECTIONS. WE WILL HAVE A  CLUE WHAT BUCS ARE GOING TO BE  IN REVENUE WHICH. MAKES IT  HARD TO DETERMINE HOW MUCH  MONEY. WE WANT BE INCLINED  ESCORT CITIZENS BECAUSE ANY  MONEY FOR CAPITAL. PROJECTS  AND POLICE HEADQUARTERS IS  GOING TO REQUIRE THE PROPERTY  TAX ADJUSTMENT NO MATTER YOU  SLICE IT. IF WE KNEW THAT  WE'RE SEEING A HUGE DRUG JUMP  IN REVENUE OVER THE NEXT 5  YEARS. IT'S FINANCIAL ANALYSIS  THAT'S BEEN WORKED ON. MIGHT  MITIGATE HOW MUCH WE NEED OR  SO THERE'S JUST SO MANY PIECES  OF THIS THAT YOU KNOW. THIS IS  NOT SOMETHING THAT SIMPLE IT'S  NOT EASY DECISION. BUT LAST  THING I WANT TO DO IS MAKE  BASED ON INSUFFICIENT.  INFORMATION AND AND FACTS.  >> I FIND IT REALLY DIFFICULT  TO WANT TO SUPPORT DOING A  REFERENDUM IN MARCH. YOU WERE  JUST LOOKING AT.  >> CITIZENS FOR. THE ABILITY.  TO BORROW WITHOUT A REFERENDUM  WITHOUT CITIZEN PERMISSION IN  THE OFFEND A CLEARED  EMERGENCY. THAT'S WHY IT'S SO.  MAY NOT BE UNREASONABLE ASK  AND MAY NOT BE UNREASONABLE  HURDLE TO DO FOR A MARCH  ELECTION. EVEN ASKING FOR  MONEY. LET ME SAY IT THIS WAY.  IF I DON'T EVEN ADDRESS THE  OPERATING BUDGET CHALLENGES AS  COMMISSIONER LANGDON DIDN'T  RATHER JUST FOCUS ON THE 2  AREAS OF CAPITAL CONCERN. A  POLICE HEADQUARTERS AND.  INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS. ARE  WE REALLY IN THE POSITION.  DRILL DOWN ON THOSE IN A SHORT  OF PERIOD OF TIME TO MEET A  DEADLINE FOR A REFERENDUM IN  MARCH AND AT THE SAME TIME BE  ABLE EDUCATE OUR POPULATION  FORGET ABOUT DECEMBER SHOT  HOLIDAY MUCH. WE LOSE THEY  WERE IN JAIL WHERE PEOPLE ARE  HOLIDAY COMA FOR 2 WEEKS IT'S  MIDDLE OF JANUARY BY THE TIME  WE GET GOING. I DON'T HOW WE  DO AND AND MY CONCERN IS THAT.  THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION  TO DIGEST FINANCIAL 5 YOUR  FINANCIAL PROTECTION AND SEE  KNOW.  >> CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT  ANALYSIS. WE HAVE TO GET TO  EVEN SO YOU KNOW WHY. I DON'T  WANT TO SEE THE STUFF GET  PUSHED TO 26, BUT I DON'T I  DON'T SEE HOW WE DO THIS  RIGHT.  >> IF I WAS SINCE I WOULD SAY  POINT.  >> JUST DANCE FOR ALL THE  STUFF WE SAID NO YOU'VE GOT TO  ASK PERMISSION AND THAT JUST  WANT TO RUSH RIGHT OUT AGAIN  IN A COUPLE MONTHS ASKED FOR  MONEY.  >> AND I CAN SEE DOING THAT WE  DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS JUST  HOW WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR ALL  THE STUFF YET. WE JUST DO AND  THE IMPLICATIONS ARE  SIGNIFICANT WE WE ARE TALKING  ABOUT JUST MOVING MONEY FROM  HERE TO THERE WE'RE TALKING  ABOUT INCREASING PEOPLE'S  PROPERTY TAXES PAY FOR.  INFRASTRUCTURE AND POLICE SAY  COURTS. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE.  >> EDUCATED POSITION IN THE  TIME FRAME WE HAVE. MY $0.2  WHETHER TECHNICAL QUESTION  CITY MANAGER DO DO SO IN THE  WORDS WE HAVE FOR REFERENDUM.  IF THERE WERE 3 QUESTIONS TO  GET 75 3 TIMES. COULD MAKE  WHAT ELSE AND THAT'S REALLY  MEANS FOR US TO PAY ALL OF THE  SPECTRUM HAD TO REALLY YOU  KNOW COMMISSIONER LANGDON SAID  OR SOMEBODY WE WOULDN'T BE  ABLE TO CHANGE UNTIL 26  ANYWAY, BUT BY GOD I THINK.  >> YOU KNOW I'D LIKE TO THINK  THERE'S CONSENSUS ON THIS  COMMISSION THAT YOU KNOW WE  NEED TO GET. WE NEED TO MAKE  TAKE A HARD LOOK IT PROBABLY  CHANGE COMPENSATION PACKAGE  THAT'S TIED TO POPULATION  GROWTH I DON'T THINK IT'S  REALISTIC THE WHOLE IDEA HERE  WAS TO RIGHT SIZE TO  COMPENSATION. SO THAT WE  COULD ATTRACT NO POTENTIAL  CANDIDATES TO THE COMMISSION.  WE DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S UP  TO THE CITIZENS CITING BANK'S  MOST QUALIFIED WHEN THEY VOTE,  BUT IT WOULD ATTRACT MORE THAT  WAS THE REASON. BEYOND THAT  THIS TIED TO POPULATION DOES  NOT MAKE A LOT OF SENSE TO ME  BUT AGAIN WE COULDN'T MAKE ANY  CHANGE ANYWAY, SO IT'S  DEFINITELY SOMETHING TO  REVISIT OVER THIS NEXT YEAR TO  WIN. YOU KNOW ALONG WITH THE  CITY ATTORNEY CLERK LIVING IN  CITY ROUTE WHERE WE GO WITH  YOU KNOW. THE FOR VICE MAYOR.  NO I'M SORRY CITY MANAGER.  >> JUST LOOK AT CASES WHERE  YOU CAN CHANGE IT TOMORROW  IT'S ORDINANCE BUT WOULD  IMPLEMENT IT YOU WOULD NEED TO  WAIT UNTIL RIGHT. YEAH, I WANT  TO DO THAT WE WILL THEY VICE  MAYOR.  >> THE ONE QUESTION I KNOW  THAT WOULD BE AFTER THE FACT  BUT. UNDER THE GUISE OF.  >> THE EMERGENCY RELIEF AND  GOING THAT ROUTE AND WHATEVER  WE DID THERE.  >> LET'S SAY WE DID HAVE WE'RE  GO OUR BRIDGE GO. DURING THE  STORM WITH THAT QUALIFY UNDER  THAT HEADING TO HAVE THAT  REPLACED. BECAUSE WE WOULD  HAVE TO TAX IT WAS AN  EMERGENCY YES. A NEIGHBORHOOD  X, WHATEVER. AFTER THE FACT IF  WE HAD X AMOUNT OF MONEY NO  CAP, BUT WE NEED TO FIX THIS.  WE'RE. WOULD THAT BE COVERED  UNDER THE EMERGENCY RELIEF  STEPS.  >> I GOT I THINK IT WOULD  DEPEND ON THE LANGUAGE THAT  IT'S A THAT IS CONTAINED  WITHIN BUT ORDINANCE WHATEVER  IS PUT IN THE CHARTER IF YOU  WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT  WOULD BE. IT WOULD BE COVERED.  >> JUST SAYING MAYBE LIKE THEY  WOULD BROUGHT UP EARLIER  ESPECIALLY BY COMMISSIONER  LANGDON ABOUT THE BUDGETING  PROCESS BUT. WE GET ON TRACK  WITH OUR BUDGETING PROCESS TO  DO OUR CIP PROJECTS. GET TO  STOP AND IF SOMETHING WERE TO  GO WRONG. I KNOW SOME OF THOSE  WEARS OUT THEIR EXPENSIVE WE  MAY NEED 3 MILLION DOLLARS IN  CASE ONE WENT. IF WE'RE  COVERED UNDER THE EMERGENCY  BORROWING. THEN THAT'S SORT OF  TAKEN CARE OF THE WORK. WE  DON'T HAVE TO DO THE 3 MILLION  RIGHT NOW UNLESS IS PLANNED.  BUT IF THAT HAPPENS TO FAIL  BECAUSE THE AND HE LIKE THE  OTHER ONES THAT IT WAS  ALTHOUGH THE WHERE WITH THE  GROUND AROUND IT. SO BUT IT  WAS AN EMERGENCY FIX IT WE HAD  TO DO IT.  >> WAY THAT THE PREVIOUS  REFERENDUM WAS DRAFTED IT  WOULD BE DIRECTLY RELATED TO  AN EMERGENCY DECLARED  EMERGENCIES SO THAT WE RELATED  TO A DEPARTMENT SUPERSTORM  THAT WORK IN WOULD IN THAT  EMERGENCY. AGAIN DEPEND ON HOW  >> BUT BUT IF WE LIKE ENLIST  ISSUES IN WE LOST THE ROADS WE  LOST BRIDGES WE LOST WEIRS.  COULD THEY HAVE BEEN COVERED  UNDER THAT EMERGENCY  GUIDELINES. I GET UP SHAKE. I  GOT A ANYWAY SO I KNOW ABOUT  TAIWAN WHICH BUT I JUST WANT  TO INCORPORATE THAT INTO HAD  UNDERWEAR. INSTEAD OF 3  DIFFERENT QUESTIONS WE MIGHT  BE ABLE TO EXTINCT BY WITH 2  QUESTIONS AND THAT'S THAT'S  ALL I'M SAYING.  >> AND JUST THE WAY IN  COMMISSIONER ON THAT  PARTICULAR EXAMPLE. THE CFP  THAT WE HAVE COVERED WHICH IS  YOU KNOW 5 YEARS THE 5 YEARS  OUT. YOU KNOW THE HAPPY THAT  YOU'RE GOING TO NEED FOR A  LARGER SCALE WITH A PROJECT  THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO  HAVE IS NOT GOING TO BE  SOMETHING THAT CAN BE  BUDGETED, BUT THEN WHAT WE  HAVE IT JUST IT'S JUST TOO  MUCH. SO WE TALK START TALKING  ABOUT BEING ABLE TO BORROW AND  THE NEED FOR THE PRODUCTS THAT  WE KNOW THAT ARE BEYOND 5  YEARS OR THE MAYOR SAID WHAT  SCHOOL. ANALYSIS SHOWED THAT  HE CANNOT HANDLE THAT AMOUNT  IS STILL GOING TO BE IN EXCESS  OF SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO  BE ABLE TO BUDGET OUTSIDE OF  THAT WE'RE THAT WE MENTIONED  EXAMPLE, BUT.  >> EVEN BUT GETTING TO WE'RE  THE YEARS GOING TO TAKE 30  YEARS IN ORDER TO FIX THE THAT  WE HAVE IT'S THE IS WAY TOO  LONG TO KEEP IT THE PACE THAT  WE'RE GOING.  >> I FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT I'M  JUST TRYING TO USE.  >> THIS SCENARIO AS. WE CAN  USE IT OVER HERE JUST IN CASE  WE HAVE A PLAN OVER HERE AND  WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WE'RE  GOING TO BORROW 30 MILLION  DOLLARS TO TAKE CARE OF 10  WEIRS WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY. IT  CAN COME OVER HERE BECAUSE  WE'VE GOT X AMOUNT OF MONEY TO  RACE. I'M JUST TRYING SEE WHAT  OUR OPTIONS ARE THAT'S ALL I'M  TRYING TO LOOK AT BECAUSE.  IT'S OUR CITY AND WE WANT TO  KEEP IT AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE.  AND SOMETIMES IN THE LORD'S  HANDS ON WHAT WE'VE GOT TO  DEAL WITH SO. DEAL WITH THE  BAND FOR 2 DIFFERENT YES, SIR.  >> ILLEGALLY TRIED ASK THERE.  WE'RE LEFT WITH QUESTION.  WE'RE GOING TO CHARTER A  VERSUS GETTING A 42 TISSUE  TAKE OUT A LOAN SPECIFICALLY  FOR AN ITEM I WOULD RECOMMEND  KEEPING THOSE 2 ITEMS  SEPARATE. I WOULDN'T WANT TO  MIX 2.  >> I KNOW, I'M JUST SAYING IF  WE HAVE YES WE'RE GOING TO PUT  THIS MONEY INTO OUR CIP  PROCTOR WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY.  WE MAY BE ABLE TO USE THAT'S  SO SO JUST WANT YOU TO THINK  ABOUT THAT FOR A LITTLE BIT TO  WORK AND BE POSSIBLY  INCORPORATED ALL I  >> YOU KNOW DISCUSSIONS HERE.  THE ONE THING THAT.  MAKES ME CAN SCORE OR AT LEAST  HE WAS GREAT CONCERN IS THAT.  2026 ELECTION IS 2 YEARS AWAY.  WHICH IS 2 SEASONS. IF WE GET  HIT. IF I WAS A BETTING MAN  I'D SAY WE'RE GOING BECAUSE WE  HAVE THERE'S MORE STORMS AND  THE GET WORSE. FOR THAT WE'RE  NOT GOING TO SOME ISSUES OVER  THE NEXT 2 YEARS NOT. STUCK IN  ESTIMATION. REPRESENTATIVES OF  THE CITIZENS TOOK TO WHAT'S IN  THE BEST INTERESTS OF OUR  CITY. IT'S HARD FOR ME TO  RECONCILE NOT ADDRESSING.  HAVING SOME ABILITY TO BORROW  IN THE EVENT OF EMERGENCY. THE  CLEAR EMERGENCY. YOU KNOW IT  SEEMS TO ME EVEN IF THAT WERE  THE ONLY THING WE ASKED FOR.  THAT WILL BE A BIG STEP  FORWARD. AND IT WOULD GIVE US  THE COMFORT TO KNOW. AND THEN  THE EMERGENCY WE CAN GO BORROW  THEIR OR LITTLE OR NO INTEREST  LOANS AT THE STATE AND FEDERAL  LEVELS THAT ARE AVAILABLE WHEN  STUFF LIKE THIS HAPPENS. WE  HAVE NO ABILITY TAKE ADVANTAGE  OF THOSE WHERE WE GET THAT  MONEY. WE JUST WOULDN'T IT  WOULD TURN THE CITY UPSIDE  DOWN AND WE DON'T NEED THAT  YOU KNOW IT WOULD BE IN MY  OPINION IRRESPONSIBLE OF NOT  TO ADDRESS AND SAY WE'RE GOING  TO KICK THIS CAN DOWN THE ROAD  FOR 2 YEARS SO YOU KNOW  ALREADY BUT YOU KNOW THEM THE  MORE I THINK ABOUT IT. YOU  KNOW THE THOUGHT OF GOING OUT  AND ASKING THAT SYMBOL WELL  QUESTION I'M GOOD WITH WHERE  LAW IT'S ALL THE OTHER 2  MULTITUDE OF BECAUSE THINK  WE'LL COMPARE THE ESTIMATE  YET. I HAVE NO IDEA. WHAT  STASH NEEDS ARE. I HAVE NO  WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO GET DONE  IN THE NEXT 24 TO 48 MONTHS BY  STAFF IN THE AREAS OF WHY WHAT  PROJECTS AND THE MOST  IMPORTANT WE HAVEN'T SEEN  EITHER OF THESE 2 FINANCIAL  REPORT YET. TULSA WASTE SO BY  THE TIME WE DIGEST HIM TALK  ABOUT THEM. I MEAN WE'RE  ALREADY WELL INTO JANUARY AND  I DON'T SEE HOW WE ASK.  >> THE CITIZENS.  >> ALLOW US TO BORROW MONEY  EVEN FOR SPECIFIC PROJECTS  WHEN IT'S GOING TO PROPERTY  DEBTS. WHAT THE **** HAPPENED  STARTED AND T'S CROSSED I JUST  FIND IT IMPOSSIBLE TO TO DO  THAT AND THE FISCALLY  RESPONSIBLE MATTER IN THAT  TIME FRAME WE HAVE. BUT SURE  DON'T WANT TO MISS. PROTECTING  US IN THE EVENT OF AN  EMERGENCY SO RIGHT NOW, I'M  LEANING TOWARDS LIKE WE SHOULD  TRY TO HIT A MARCH REFERENDUM,  BUT BUT DO IT ONLY FOR  EMERGENCIES AND AND GET ONE  OUT OF THE AND YOU KNOW WHAT  THEY WERE REPORTED, BUT I  DON'T SEE HOW WE DOING TIME I  JUST I JUST DON'T UNLESS  SOMEBODY CAN SHED SOME THAT  ARE LIGHT ON IT THAN I DO  KISS. THE REALITY GOVERNMENT  SLOW ENOUGH AS IT IS THEY'RE  JUST TIME. CITIZENS ARE GOING  TO VOTE NO CAUSE JUST GOING TO  FEEL THAT. WE DIDN'T GET ACT  TOGETHER ON THIS WE'RE JUST  RUSSIAN THROUGH AND THAT'S NOT  A GOOD THING TO DO NOT ONE  ARREST AND THE WAY PROPERTY  THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO  ULTIMATELY THEY'RE GOING TO  HAVE TO FOLLOW AND MAKE A  DECISION HOW MUCH MONEY ARE  THEY GONNA LET US BORROW.  THERE ARE GOING TO VOTE  THEMSELVES AND INCREASE THEY  ARE AND I THINK BEFORE WE  ASKED HIM TO DO THE BETTER OF  RETHINKS BOOK FROM CAREFULLY  AND HAVE THE ANSWERS QUESTIONS  THEY MIGHT AND DO A LOT OF  CITIZEN COMMUNITY OUTREACH  THESE THINGS BEFORE WE GET  THERE AND SO THAT THEY TRULY  UNDERSTAND THE VALUE AND  IMPORTANCE OF WHAT WE'RE  TRYING TO DO HERE NOT JUST  FROM AN INFRASTRUCTURE  STANDPOINT POLICE HEADQUARTERS  AS WELL THESE ARE INCREDIBLY  IMPORTANT THEIR LEGACY  DECISIONS FOR US. AND YOU KNOW  ME I'M NOT GOING TO KICK THE  CAN DOWN THE ROAD ON THIS  STUFF BUT BOY WHAT WE SHOULD  DO IT THE RIGHT WAY. I YIELD  COMMISSION  >> THANK YOU MAYOR.  >> I'M I'M SENSING MAY NEED TO  DO SOME CONSENSUS AROUND THIS  AND MY GENERAL SENSE CARING  FOLKS SPEAK THAT.  >> BEING ABLE TO BORROW AND  SITUATIONS OF TO CLEARED.  EMERGENCIES IS CRITICAL. IN MY  TRAVELS AROUND THE CITY AND  TALKING WITH PEOPLE. NO ONE I  SPOKE WITH INTERPRET THAT AS  LOOK WE TOLD HIM NO AND  THEY'RE COMING BACK I THINK  THERE WAS WIDESPREAD AGREEMENT  THAT WE NEEDED TO BE ABLE TO  BORROW AND THOSE SITUATIONS.  IF THE MAYOR WANTS BE HAPPY TO  TRY A CONSENSUS. LIKE THE I SO  DESPERATELY ALSO WANT TO  INCLUDE WHAT ARE THOSE  PROJECTS INFRASTRUCTURE  PROJECTS AND ARE IMMINENT LEE  AND DANGER OF FAILURE. AND  THEIR FAILURE WOULD RESULT IN  IMMEDIATE LOSS OF LIFE. OUR  PROPERTY AND WHAT'S THE SIZING  THAT. AND WE DON'T I DON'T  BELIEVE UNLESS STAFF CAN  EDUCATE ME OTHERWISE THAT WE  HAVE THAT STORY PULL TOGETHER  YA TO BE ABLE TO PROPERLY AND  FOR MORE THE COMMUNITY. SO I'M  HEARING PRETTY ADAM IN  AGREEMENT THAT THE DECLARED  EMERGENCY IS SORT OF A AND BE  HAPPY TRY CONSENSUS BEFORE YOU  DO JUST FOR IT TO THE  COMMISSIONERS.  >> IN WORKSHOPS WE CAN'T POKE.  WE CAN SPECIAL MEETINGS WE CAN  REGULAR MEETINGS BUT WORKSHOPS  WE CAN ACTUALLY MAKE MOTIONS  AND VOTE ON SOMETHING WE DO DO  IS CONSENSUS TYPICALLY THAT  FOR THE PURPOSE OF GIVING  STAFF DIRECTION SOMETIMES  UNANIMOUS WHICH MAKES THAT  STRONG CONSENSUS, SOMETIMES  WERE SPLIT BUT IT AND GAMES,  STAY LEAST SOME YOU KNOW.  >> TAKE YOU KNOW WHAT THE  TEMPERATURE IS OF THE VARIOUS  COMMISSIONERS AND WHEN THEY GO  BACK AND TRY TO YOU KNOW. SORT  OF DIGEST ALL THIS AND COME  BACK AGAIN WITH WITH SOME  ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FOR US  TO BUT ANYWAY BY ALL MEANS  COMMISSIONER. I LOVE THAT YOU  DON'T DO SOMETHING WITH KNOW  WE'RE WAITING FOR THIS AND I  KNOW I HAVE THE CITY CLERK  BEHIND ME A SPECIAL NOT WHAT I  SAY TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT  MORE COMPLETE AND PALATABLE  BUT.  >> LET ME FLOAT CONSENSUS THAT  WE ADD OF.  >> A QUESTION TO THE MARCH  REFERENDUM. TO REQUEST. THE  ABILITY OF CITY TO BORROW. AND  LAWYERED EMERGENCY.  >> SO I CITY CLERK DO WE NEED  TO SAY. WILL STAY  FEDERAL-STATE YOUR ADVICE  PLACE.  >> I BELIEVE THE CITY I THINK  IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A LOCAL  WEEK. THE STATE WOULD DECLARE,  BUT THEN WE WOULD ALSO DECLARE  A LOCAL ONE AS WELL.  >> SHE'S OR WHAT NOT SAY. I  WOULD YOU KNOW HAS A IN  SITUATIONS OF. FEDERAL STATE  OR LOCAL DECLARED EMERGENCIES.  SUBJECT TO OUR. THAT POLICY.  WE NEED TO ADD THAT. I DON'T  THINK SO.  >> AND SOMEBODY ELSE FEEL  ABOUT THAT BEFORE I WHERE  SHOULD WE JUST.  >> WE WANT CITY CLERK TO  REPEAT AND YOU KNOW. WOULD  REALLY BAD FOR  >> TO ADD A REFERENDUM  QUESTION TO THE TOWN OF  LONGBOAT KEY 3/11/2025  ELECTION TO REQUEST ABILITY OF  THE CITY OF NORTH PORT TO  BORROW AND SITUATIONS OF  FEDERAL STATE OR EMERGENCIES.  >> IT FOR ME. COMMISSIONER  DUVAL YOU THINK. THAT'S 5  WORKERS. ALL  >> I GOT TO SAY YES, YOU  MISTER  >> VICE MAYOR YEAH. AND THE  MAYOR'S YES, WE HAVE A GOOD  STRONG CONSENSUS, THERE.  >> THE RECORD COMMISSIONER  READING THEM SAY YES. OH YEAH,  DEFINITELY THE PROPOSER IS  >> DO WE NEED ANY OTHER.  >> CONSENSUS AT THIS POINT.  >> MANAGERS TRYING TO WAIT YOU  I'M THAT AND THAT'S THE  DIRECTION THAT WE NEED FOR THE  OTHER PIECES THAT WERE.  >> THE OTHER ONE THAT I  MENTION WHY I TO YOU WILL  STILL BRING THOSE TO YOU AS  GET DO SO.  >> KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID  THE TIMEFRAME IS VERY SHORT.  ADVISORS IF RECALL A  GUARANTEED US THAT WE WOULD  HAVE INFORMATION FOR THE  FISCAL COMMISSION ANNOUNCES  YOU CANNOT FORGET THAT BEFORE  THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR  IS STILL ON TRACK TO DO THAT  THE CIP COMPANY IS THE PLAN  WAS GET YOU DOWN UNTIL THEY  WERE ABLE TO BE FURTHER THAN  THE DEADLINE FOR IT IS  NECESSARY FOR THE SPECIAL  ELECTION. SO WE'LL KEEP  BRINGING YOU THAT INFORMATION  BECAUSE IT'S STILL A VALUABLE  IN THE CONTEXT OF YOUR BUT IN  THIS IS THAT WAS A REFERENCE  EARLIER AND THE INFORMATION  YOU NEED IN ORDER TO KNOW  WHICH PROJECTS ARE AT THE TOP  OF THAT PRIORITY LIST WHAT OUR  AS COMMISSIONER LANGDON SAID  ONE OF THE DECISIONS OF THOSE  PARTICULAR PROJECTS, SO YOU  DON'T NEED YOU KNOW MAKE A  CONSENSUS FOR THAT YOU'RE NOT  GOING TO YOUR DIRECTION  BECAUSE IT USES SOMETHING  DIFFERENT THAT WE NEEDED TO  HAVE REACTED DIFFERENTLY.  >> ALRIGHT, AND AS FAR  >> 2 POINTS THAT COMMISSION  ABOUT THE CITY ATTORNEY IN  CLERK AND AND THE COMMISSION  PAY. TAKE. THE COMMISSION PAY  I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD HAVE  ANY PROBLEMS SINCE WE KNOW  WORK ON A 2 YEARS ON THAT, SO  THAT COULD GET TABLES FOR WHAT  WE WANT GET BUT WE COULD TAPE  WHICH I DON'T KNOW THAT WE  NEED TO DO A CONSENSUS. FOR  ANY REASON ON THAT I'M JUST  ASKING THE QUESTION DO WE WANT  TO CONSIDER BEFORE WE ASK FOR  IN THE MARCH. REFERENDUM IS.  FOR EMERGENCY BORROWING A BIT  WINDY. DO WE WANT TO. AND ITEM  WOULD IT OVERLY COMPLICATING  OR BECAUSE IT'S TIME I MEAN WE  HAVE AN OPEN POSITION. WHILE  WE MAY DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT  MORE TOMORROW. DURING OUR  STRATEGIC PLANNING WITH IT IS  TIME WE CHOOSE NOT TO DO THAT.  WE'RE MISSING THIS WINDOW  CORRUPTION OPPORTUNITY  AUTHORITIES FOUND.  >> RIGHT PERSON THE THE  CONSENSUS ON THE RESIDENCY  REQUIREMENT OF YOUR ATTORNEY I  WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU WAIT UNTIL  YOU TALK TO THE THOMAS MOORE.  NEED FIGHT ON HIS THOUGHTS ON  WHERE HE BELIEVES IT YOU KNOW  SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T BE LOCATED  WITHIN THE CITY AND I THINK IF  PROFESSIONAL. OPINION.  >> WILL BE VALUABLE FOR YOU  ALL YOU HAVE YOU WITH ANY TIME  WAS MY ONLY CONCERN BUT THE  OTHER ONE WITH THE PAY EVEN  THOUGH YOU CAN'T CHANGE ATION  OF IT IF YOU TRULY BELIEVE IT  OR THE CHARTER YOU NEED TO  CONSIDER ABOUT IF YOU WANT  THAT TO BE A CHARTER I DO YOU  CAN CHANGE THE POPULATION  VERSUS WHATEVER YOU WANT TO  WHERE YOU WANT TO. THE  QUESTION AND DO YOU WANT TO BE  CHARTER ITEM IS A DECISION FOR  THE PEOPLE TO MAKE THE CHOICE  OF HOW YOUR PATIENT IS ORDER  THAT DECISION OF THE  COMMISSION TO MAKE THAT  DECISION THAT SORT OF NEEDS TO  BE. RESOLVED BEFORE WE GET TO  THE DEADLINE VOTE.  >> THIS PARTICULAR AND THAT IT  AND YOU BRING AND FORGOT THAT  YOU'RE UP THERE. THE MATRIX SO  I WILL YOU KNOW GET TO IN A  SECOND BUT BUT YOU BRING UP A  POINT THAT I THINK IT'S WORTHY  OF DEBATE AND DISCUSSION.  PROPS NOT JUST SUBJECT. BUT  NUMBER.  WE CONCERNED.  >> THE LOSS OF LOCAL RIGHTS AS  THE RESULT OF PREEMPTION.  >> AND AND WE RECOGNIZE HAVE  BEEN VARIOUS REASONS WHY THE  STATE IS PREEMPTED MANY LOCAL  CONTROLS OVER WHAT GOES ON  WITHIN IN THIS APPELLATE EASE.  AT THE SAME TIME. OUR CHARTER.  PRETTY GRAY. WHEN IT COMES TO  THE DELINEATION OF AUTHORITY.  SO YOU AND IT BETWEEN  COMMISSION SOMETIMES STAFF AND  IT, AND EVEN WITH REGARD TO  OUR OUR JOBS AND WHAT OUR  RESPONSIBILITIES ARE. I JUST  MAKE THE COMMENT THAT I THINK  WE NEED TO ALWAYS THINK LONG  AND HARD ABOUT THE UNINTENDED  CONSEQUENCES OF SELLING OUT.  COMMISSION OF 40. TO WEAVE  STAFF. THE CITIZENS. WE ARE  EMPLOYEES. WE ARE  REPRESENTATIVES OF COURSE WHO  FALL FOR US BECAUSE THEY PUT  THEIR FAITH IN US TO MAKE THE  BEST DECISIONS IN THEIR BEST  INTERESTS AND IT'S IMPORTANT  THAT COMMISSION HAS THE  AUTHORITY TO BE ABLE TO THAT.  AND THAT'S INTERESTING  BALANCE. SO I WOULD JUST SAY  THAT YOU KNOW I'M ON MY  SOAPBOX LITTLE IT'S JUST  SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD  ALWAYS WHEN WE DISCUSS WHAT WE  MIGHT WANT TO PUT IN THE  CHARTER BECAUSE WHAT WE DO  THAT. WE ARE CEDING SO  AUTHORITIES AWAY AND PUTTING  THEM IN THE HANDS OF THE  CITIZENRY WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT  BE A GOOD HEALTHY AND IT COMES  ON THE ISSUES WITH THAT DEFER  COMMISSIONER, THANK  >> JUST WANT TO SAY FEW I  BELIEVE IT IS TO TALK ABOUT  THE THE CITY. CLERK AND CITY  ATTORNEY POSITION.  REQUIREMENTS RESIDENTS  REQUIREMENTS MOVE JUST JUST  FOR GIGGLES OVER TO BE JUST  FOR THE SAKE. I PROPOSE TO  ASK. CHANT CHARTER OFFICERS,  ONE OF THEM IS. IN TERMS  POSITION THAT OUTSIDE OF THE  CITY HOW HE FEELS DON'T LIVE  IN THE CITY. HOW SHE FEELS. AS  FAR AS THE PROPOSING TO CHANGE  MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO  INCLUDE THAT REFERENDUM I'M  NOT I'M NOT PROPOSING FROM  JUST. HOPING FOR THE  DISCUSSION. FOR THE SAKE EVEN  SAVE SOME. MONEY FOR THE CITY  BECAUSE HIRING EVERYBODY KNOWS  THAT HIRING YOU POSITION  OUTSIDE OF CITY. PERSON NOW IS  MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE HIRING  SOMEONE WE'RE PROMOTING.  WITHIN THE CITY PERSONNEL. SO  POST HAS. FOR EXAMPLE SITTING  CHARTER OFFICERS RIGHT NOW  WITH A FEW. AND THAT IDEA. IF  WE GO THAT ROUTE TOO. CHANGE  THE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT FOR  THOSE POSITION. UNDERSTAND  WHAT COMMISSIONER BALL SAYING.  THEY ARE NOT PUBLIC FACE FOR  THE COMMUNITY, BUT WE SHOWED  TO LIMIT THE POOL SO.  QUALIFIED CANDIDATES. BUT  BIDEN. THE RULES OF THE  CHARTER OR WELL CHARTER, THE  CHART. AND WE TRUMP IMPEDANCE.  >> WOULD SAY THIS I SHOULDN'T  QUESTION VERY MUCH. THANK YOU  VERY MUCH FOR IT. I WOULD HAVE  TO SAY I FOR THIS CITY  ATTORNEY YOU HAVE TO THINK  BEYOND. MEAN YOUNGEST POSITION  YOU HAVE TO THINK LONG TERM  THE CITY WHAT'S IN THE BEST  INTEREST OF THE CITY FOR A  LONG 10 YEARS FROM NOW 20 FROM  NOW. I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR  FOR ME TO TELL YOU WHAT I  BELIEVE IS THE BEST THING THAT  SUCH INCIDENT THE COMMISSION'S  JOB TO THAT WHAT IS THE BEST  INTEREST THE LONG TERM THAT  POSITION I WOULD.  >> FOR ALL SPOKEN TRUMP. IT'S  A  >> ATTORNEY WAS PROFESSIONAL  BUT WAS A LITTLE MOSTLY  RELATING POSITION BUT AND I'M  CHANGE EFFECT THE TAKE EIGHTS  AFTER. EVEN AFTER THOSE BOARD.  BUT AS AS OPINION THAT WE CAN  DISCUSS WITH A MATTER FOR THE  SAKE OF DISCUSSION WHAT WOULD  YOU SAY IS THAT ONE THING TO  TO LOOK INTO THE CHANGE OR  NOT. AND I'M AND ANSWER BUT I  WOULD LIKE TO GET SOME  OPINIONS BECAUSE THE DISCUSSED  AND WE HAVE THE BETTER. WE DO  OUR JOB FOR SAKE OF THE CITY.  UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION  RESPECT YOUR QUESTION I  APPRECIATED.  >> BUT I THINK YOU AN ANSWER  ON THAT. AS A BOARD TO ADVISE  YOU ON WHAT I BELIEVE  PERSONALLY I DON'T IT WOULD BE  APPROPRIATE. I WILL SEE A TURN  ENTERTAINMENT ADVISE YOU WANT  A LEGAL ASPECTS OF IT. BUT  THAT'S FINE TUNE WITH CITY  CLERK.  >> YOU CAN ALWAYS DISCUSS IT  ON YOUR WHAT WANT LIKE.  >> I CAN TELL YOU WHEN I APPLY  DEPUTY CITY CLERK AND IT WAS  ALSO AT THAT TIME REQUIRED TO  BEING RESIDENT OF THE CITY. I  JUST SO HAPPEN TO LIVE IN THE  CITY.  >> DO I THINK IT'S A BENEFIT  OR NOT BEEN SET ARI THAT IT  DIDN'T REALLY IMPACT ME AT ALL  HOWEVER THE CANDIDATES THAT I  DID INTERVIEW ALONGSIDE FOR  ALL CITY EMPLOYEES CURRENTLY  SO THEY WERE NOT. CITY CLERK  SPURS SAY THAT CAME INTO. I DO  KNOW A LOT OF OTHER CITIES IN  CITY CLERK WORLD WHERE THE  CITY CLERK DOES NOT RESIDE IN  THE CITY. I THINK THAT ALSO  FALLS AND A LOT OF THEM LIVE  IN CITIES THAT DO COST A LOT  TO LIVE THERE. SO THEY DON'T  REQUIRE THEM TO DO SO I WORK  IN THE CITY OF VENICE THEY  WERE NOT REQUIRED TO LIVE IN  THE CITY. I KNOW THEY THEY  WERE DISCUSSING CERTAIN  POSITIONS LIVING IN THE CITY,  BUT I THINK THAT BECAME  RUSSIAN BUT FOR ME PERSONALLY  I DON'T HAVE A PERSONAL  PREFERENCE. I DO THINK IT  COULD POSSIBLY HINDER US  ELECTION.  >> YOU PEOPLE WHO ALREADY LIVE  LOCALLY. IN FLORIDA THAT WOULD  LIKE TO APPLY FOR THE  POSITION. I DON'T WANT SAY AT  A SARASOTA OR SOMEWHERE ELSE.  BUT PART OF THE TEAM SO CAN  YOU  >> BUT A SMEAR. THIS IS THE  LAST THING I'M GOING TO SAY  ABOUT THE PAY AND I KNOW WE  BEAT IT TO DEATH BUT. IF YOU  WANTED IN THE CHARTER. IT PUT  UP AND REFERENDUM AND 26  THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO  ABOUT THE PAY UNTIL AFTER THE  ELECTION AND 26. IF YOU WANT  TO CHANGE IT BY POLICY WE'VE  GOT 2 YEARS TO CHANGE IT  BEFORE CAN ACTUALLY GO INTO  EFFECT. SO WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF  TIME TO LOOK AT IT I WOULD NOT  PUT IT ON THE REFERENDUM IN  MARCH, I JUST THINK IT IS WAY  TOO EARLY FOR THAT.  >> LET'S HAVE CONVERSATIONS US  LOOK INTO WHAT'S THE BEST  BENEFIT FOR THE CITY. AND THE  COMMISSIONERS AS A WHOLE. AND  GO FROM THERE. BUT RIGHT NOW  TO PUT THAT UP ON THE TOP OF  THE LIST WAS JUST. IT'S NOT  GOING TO DO ANYTHING ANYWAYS  YOU'RE GOING TO WAIT TILL  NOVEMBER OF 26 BEFORE IT GOES  INTO EFFECT. AND COMMISSIONER  BLACK.  >> YEAH JUST FOR CLARITY ON  THE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT. I  BELIEVE WHEN WE HIRE AND THERE  IS A RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT AND  SOMEONE LIVES OUTSIDE THE CITY  THEY'RE GIVEN A PERIOD OF TIME  TO RELOCATE. IT'S SO THAT  CONVERSATION THAT WAS SO TO  SOUNDING LIKE WOULD HAVE TO  HIRE FROM THE EXISTENTIAL THE  PRESIDENT'S THAT'S NOT TRUE.  SEVERAL BROUGHT UP THE POINT  THAT ONE COULD LET THE  ENTRESTO THE NUMBER OF  CANDIDATES THAT WERE  INTERESTED BECAUSE I DON'T  WANT TO MOVE HIM THEY ALREADY  LOVE IN SARASOTA ARE WHERE SO  I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT  POINT SO IT WAS CLEAR.  >> SO GOODWILL TOMORROW TO  TALK MORE WITH AND OTHER MAN  TAKE STEPS YOU A PRETTY GOOD  CONSENSUS THE REFERENDUM  ISSUE. SO YES THERE'S NOTHING  ELSE.  >> THANK YOU I MEAN EVEN IF  THEY MY BACK. A RAGE. UP NEXT  WE HAVE NUMBER 4. OF 24 1, 6,  4, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE  DIRECTION REGARDING NEXT STEPS  FOR FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF  TRANSPORTATION WAITING YORK  SHARE SLASH RING TREE  INTERCHANGE.  >> CITY MANAGER THANK  >> MISTER MAYOR OF SOUTH IT.  THAT HAS BROUGHT THIS BOARD  BASED ON THE REQUEST OF WITH  YOU'RE LAYING PLAYING,  ESPECIALLY COMMISSIONER DO  ABOUT AS THE PHONE WITH NEWS  ABOUT THIS WELL BUT THE  OVERALL.  >> THERE THE ITEM IS THAT THE  FDOT HAS ACCELERATED THE I OR  A RING TREE INTERSECTION IN TO  BE DONE. WE STILL WOULD SIT AT  LEAST 10 YEARS OUT NOW BASED  ON CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD  THERE NEEDS TO BE REGARDING  WHERE THIS LIES AS FAR AS THE  PRIORITY OF ASKING GRANTS AND  OTHER FUNDING SOURCES TO HELP  WITH THIS. WE'VE A LOT IN OUR  PRIORITY WITH OUR I THINK  ELECTED OFFICIALS BUT THE  POLICE HEADQUARTERS WE BELIEVE  THAT THAT ASKED SHOULD REMAIN  FIRST CENTER, BUT THIS PROJECT  THAT WE KNOW SORT IS GOING TO  BE ONE OF THE CATALYSTS OF THE  ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OUT EAST  OF THE CITY TO BE GIVEN HEAVY  AMOUNT OF THAT WELL SO TODAY  IS THE FIRST I THINK WE'VE BUT  AT THE PUMP STATION OF THE  PRIORITIZING OF THIS  PARTICULAR PROJECT OR ANY  QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE  AS A COMMISSION STAFF  REGARDING THE FUTURE OF THE  BUDGET. THANK YOU SIR.  >> COMMISSIONERS. QUESTIONS  DISCUSSION.  >> COMMISSIONER LANGDON LET ME  SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHY I  BROUGHT THIS I MEAN BEEN  INVOLVED CONVERSATIONS ABOUT  THE ACCELERATION OF THE  INTERCHANGE AT BRAINTREE IN  YORKSHIRE.  >> ALONG WITH VICE MAYOR I  SAID ON THE METROPOLITAN  PLANNING ORGANIZATION AND HAVE  FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND CITY  MANAGER IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT  AT THE URGING OF THE CITY OF  PORT. AND CHARLOTTE COUNTY.  FDOT HAS ACCELERATED BECAUSE  FDOT TERMS 15 YEAR WINDOW  THAT'S THE ACCELERATION I  RECENTLY LEARNED HOWEVER THAT  FDOT IS IS NOT.  >> MOVING THAT PROJECT  FORWARD.  >> BECAUSE BORROWERS LANGUAGE  THEY WANT TO SEE MORE SKIN  PART OF THE LOCAL  MUNICIPALITIES WHICH IS THE  CITY OF NORTH PORT AND PORT  CHARLOTTE. I DO HAVE A COPY  AND I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT  BRINGING COPIES TO EVERYONE  MAKE SURE FOLKS GET COPIES OF  THIS BUT IN WHITE PAPER FDOT.  INDICATES SOME TIME  SPECIFICALLY AND SOMETIMES  GENERALLY WHAT KIND ACTIVITY  YOUR COMMITMENT THEY WANT TO  SEE ON THE PART OF THE LOCAL  MUNICIPALITIES IN ORDER TO  MOVE THIS FOR THIS PROJECT  FORWARD AND SO I'LL JUST READ  A LITTLE BIT AND THEN MAKE  SURE I'LL LEAVE THAT'S WHAT  CITY CLERK AND SHE CAN GET  COPIES TO EVERYONE. SO THIS IS  SORT OF A GENERAL COMMENT IT  IS IMPORTANT FDOT TO SEE THE  LOCAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE  INTERCHANGE DISCUSSED IN  COMPREHENSIVE PLANS. CAPITAL  IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AND OTHER  PLANNING AND ZONING DOCUMENTS,  CHARLOTTE DESOTO AND SARASOTA  COUNTIES PLUS THE CITY OF  PORT. CAN INCLUDE THE  INTERCHANGE AND THEIR ANNUAL  PROJECT PRIORITY SUBMITTED TO  MPO IN THE FALL WHICH WE HAVE  DONE. THE ON THAT THEY DO CALL  OUT. A NUMBER OF LOCAL  INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT  WILL NEED TO BE DEVELOPED FOR  US. JET GENERATE THE FUTURE  TRAFFIC VOLUME AND JUST  SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETE THE I J  R FOR F W F H APPROVAL DON'T  ASK WHAT THAT STANDS FOR THESE  PROJECTS AND WHAT'S  INTERESTING CONNECTING  RAINTREE TO VETERANS WIDENING  RAINTREE EXTENDING RAIN TREE.  TO 75. AND IMPROVING VETERANS  BOULEVARD EAST FROM 41 TO  KINGS HIGHWAY. ALL 4 OF THOSE  PROJECTS AND AND MY SIMPLE WAY  OF LOOKING AT THINGS REALLY  FALL TO CHARLOTTE COUNTY  SENSE. THEY WERE INSISTING ON  RAINTREE BEING PART OF THE  EQUATION AND THE CITY WAS  INSISTING ON YOUR SHARE  BECAUSE THAT REALLY FEEDS ARE  TO ACTIVITY CENTERS. SO I JUST  WANT TO BRING THAT UP.  >> BECAUSE WE MAY NEED TO HAVE  A FOLLOW-UP CONVERSATION WITH  CHARLOTTE COUNTY. AND TALK  ABOUT.  >> WHAT DO THEY NEED TO DO  WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO WHEN ARE  WE GOING TO DO AT. BECAUSE  WORKING TOGETHER WE WORRY  REALLY ABLE TAKE GET THIS  PROJECT REPRIORITIZE BY FDOT  WHEN WE WERE WORKING  SEPARATELY WE WERE SUCCESSFUL  IN DOING THAT SO I JUST WANT  TO PUT ON THE TABLE WHEN THE  TIME IS RIGHT, WE DO NEED TO  HAVE ANOTHER POW WOW CHOW OR  COUNTY.  >> COMMISSIONERS SO KATE WE  UPDATED THE THIS MISSION AND  THEIR COUNTY MEMO. I BELIEVE  IT WAS SOMEWHERE AROUND SUMMER  TIME OR MAYBE EVEN A WE DO NOT  WANT TO THE MEETING DUE TO THE  2 SEATS THAT WE KNEW RIGHT  FROM SO NOW THAT THEY THAT  THEY'RE LETTING AS WELL.  UPCOMING SPRING MIGHT BE A  PERFECT TIME TO REALLY ENGAGE  THEM WITH THIS PARTICULAR  AGENDA TOPIC BEING ON THE  FOREFRONT. I KNOW WE STILL  HAVE BUT WELL RIGHT OF THINGS  THAT WE CAN GET UPDATED ON AND  STRESSED THE NEEDS THAT YOU  REPRESEN THAT MEETING AS WELL  I THANK YOU FOR THAT AND THEN  THERE WAS ANOTHER SPECIFIC.  >> RECOMMENDATION THAT I THINK  PERTAINS TO BOTH OF US, BUT  ALSO THE CITY OF NORTH PORT.  >> DEVELOPING PLANS FOR THE  LOCAL CONNECTOR DISTRIBUTOR  ROADS PARALLEL TO I 75 BETWEEN  YORKSHIRE AND BRAINTREE SO  THEY GO ON TO SORT OF SPECIFY  WITH THAT LIKE TO SEE THAT  HAPPENING.  >> SO.  >> THAT THE DOTS THAT POPPED  UP AND MY MIND THAT. COULD  PERHAPS HELP GET THIS PROJECT  MOVING FORWARD FROM AN FDOT  POINT OF VIEW IS.  >> ONE WE HAVE ON THE TABLE  COMPLETION OF THE MASTER  PLANNING FOR THE 2 ACTS OF  ACTIVITY CENTERS OUT THERE I  KNOW FUNDING WAS NOT  ALLOCATED, BUT I THINK.  >> WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT  AGAIN AND SO ON. BECAUSE AGAIN  THIS DOCUMENT REFERENCES THAT  THEY WANT TO SEE THE INTERNAL  PLANNING AND THE CAPITAL  PROJECTS IDENTIFIED CETERA  CETERA. REPRIORITIZE ATION OF  PHASE 2 OF THE PRICE WIDENING.  I'M FROM. SUMPTER WEST TO  TOLEDO BLADE EAST AGAIN THESE  ARE JUST MY SUGGESTIONS,  THINKING IF IF WE CAN SHOW  PROGRESS ON THESE THINGS IT  MAY HELP FDOT SEE THAT OUR  COMMITMENT TO IT. THIS IS  TROUBLESOME ONE SECURE FUNDING  FOR WATER TO THE WATER  TREATMENT PLANT. VERY VERY  EXPENSIVE AND I HAVE 2  THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT ONE WAS.  WE KNOW THERE IS A DEVELOPER  OUT EAST ASSEMBLING  INFORMATION I KNOW STAFF HAS  HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THAT  WITH THAT ORGANIZATION.  GETTING THEM TO PAY OR HELP  PAY FOR IT OR ANOTHER THOUGHT  WOULD BE FOR WATER AND SEWER  START OUT EAST. AND SO RATHER  THAN THINKING OF ALL OF THIS  GOING FROM TOLEDO BLADE EAST  START EASTON AND MOVE WEST AND  THE IMPLEMENTATION OF  INFRASTRUCTURE, WATER AND  SEWER. THAT MIGHT INCLUDE  WORKING WITH CHARLOTTE COUNTY  FOR THEM TO SHORT-TERM BASIS  AND I KNOW THERE ARE PROS AND  CONS BUT ON A SHORT-TERM  BASIS. PROVIDING THOSE  RESOURCES TO THE CITY. AND  THEN FINALLY. WE HAD  CONVERSATIONS A WHILE AGO AND  I'M GLAD TO SEE. DIRECTOR WRAY  UP THE MIC. THINK WE WOULD  NEED TO EXPAND THE URBAN  COMBAT. WHAT EXACTLY IS THAT  AND WHAT ARE THE IMPLICATIONS  OF IT. GOOD MORNING, ELAINE OR  A DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT  SERVICES.  >> FIRST LET ME CLARIFY SOME  INFORMATION ON THE MASTER PLAN  FOR ACTIVITY CENTER 6.10. THE  FUNDING WAS ALLOCATED FOR THIS  YEAR. SO WE DO HAVE THE WE HAD  DURING THE BUDGET DISCUSSIONS  WE HAD INDICATED TO THE  COMMISSION THAT. OUR PLAN OUR  WORK PLAN FOR THIS YEAR  INCLUDES. STARTING THE  PROCUREMENT PROCESS FOR THAT  MASTERPLAN IN THE 4TH QUARTER  OF THIS YEAR. WE I UNDERSTOOD.  >> BUT WITH WITH THE THAT  WE'VE STARTED IMPLEMENTING  WITH A SELLER COMING ONLINE  WITH RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE  AVAILABLE TO US RIGHT NOW AND  ARE PLANNING DIVISION STARTING  IN BEFORE THEN IS SIMPLY NOT  DOABLE SO CHAIRMAN WILL START  THE 4TH QUARTER OF THIS YEAR.  MASTER PLAN WILLING CLEAR THE  ISSUES SURROUNDING  TRANSPORTATION.  >> OR THE CONNECTIONS AND THE  INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS THAT WILL  NEED TO BE PUT IN PLACE FOR  THE INTERCHANGE AND THAT  INCLUDES THE CONNECTIONS DOWN  TO VETERANS PARKWAY AND HOW WE  HOW WE DO THAT. SO EXPECT THAT  TO BE COMING. THE. THE URBAN  SERVICE BOUNDARY. YES, IT DOES  NEED TO BE EXPANDED. MOST OF  THE. ACTIVITY CENTERS ARE  ALREADY IN THE URBAN SERVICE  BOUNDARY, BUT THERE'S A  PORTION THAT IS SO WE WOULD BE  LOOKING TO EXPAND THAT FIRST  WE WOULD NEED TO WORK WE NEED  TO WORK WITH THE 2 OF THESE  BECAUSE WE HAVE BEFORE YOU CAN  EXPAND SERVICE FREE. YOU HAVE  TO DEMONSTRATE THAT YOU CAN  PROVIDE THE SERVICE. WATER AND  SEWER. SO AT THIS TIME WE ARE  WORKING WITH UTILITIES AND  CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE ON SOME  OPTIONS FOR EXPANDING WATER  AND SEWER TO THAT AREA WE'VE  BEEN TALKING WITH SOME  DEVELOPERS. SO WE ARE WE  LOOKING AT ALL OPTIONS FOR  GETTING THAT IN PLACE SOONER  RATHER THAN LATER. ABOUT THAT.  >> SHE SENT HAS A VERY  SPECIFIC SO THAT THEY'RE NOT  READY FOR PRIME TIME. YEAH SO  WE'RE WAITING UNTIL WE HAVE  SOME DUCKS IN A ROW. I MEAN  THE THE REAL CHALLENGE WITH  ALL OF THIS IS THERE ALSO  INTERDEPENDENT AND THEN IT'S A  REAL CHECK  >> AND KIND OF THING GOING ON.  I MEAN HOW DO YOU GET A  DEVELOPER TO BELLY UP BIG  BUCKS FOR WATER AND SO WE'RE  TREATMENT PLANT WHEN THERE'S  NO INTERCHANGE YOU KNOW SO ALL  OF THE STAFF REALLY BEGINS TO  SNOWBALL. AND I SORT OF MADE A  FACE WITH 2 FOR I'M JUST  ALWAYS A SOONER RATHER THAN  LATER KIND OF GAL BUT I GUESS  IN LIGHT OF A 15 YEAR WINDOW,  IT'S NOT SO BAD.  >> WHAT CAN WE ANTICIPATE THAT  WILL TAKE LESS THAN 12 MONTHS  TO DO SO IT'S WELL PLANNING  WINDS FOR US TO TO BE ABLE TO  PUT OTHER. MEASURES IN PLACE  ONCE WE HAVE ALL THE  INFORMATION FROM  >> BECAUSE AGAIN I THINK IN  READING THIS DOCUMENT IT  SOUNDED AS THOUGH JUST  STARTING TO HAVE CONCRETE  PLANS AND STEPSON BUT WE'RE  GOING TO DO AND WHAT TIME  FRAME. COULD BE AT LEAST ON  THE CITY'S SIDE AND NOT TO  KIND OF.  >> IS BACK ON TRACK TO MOVE  CORRECT FROM FROM FDOT  STANDPOINT JUST THE SIMPLE  FACT THAT THE COMMISSION  ALLOCATED FUNDING FOR THE  MASTER PLANS IS A IS A BIG  INDICATION THAT WE ARE SERIOUS  ABOUT IT.  >> SO ANY ALL OF THOSE THINGS  MOVE THE NEEDLE ON HIGHER  PART.  >> AND AS WE DISCUSSED AND ONE  OF OUR MEETINGS I THINK IT WAS  IN A MEETING. WITH JUST  REZONED THE CITY. THAT'S BEEN  A VERY PAINFUL PROCESS, BUT I  THINK YOU HAD TOLD ME THAT OF  THAT. DOUBLING OF THE  COMMERCIAL. COMMERCIALLY ZONED  LAND IN THE CITY ABOUT 80% OF  THAT WAS ACTUALLY COMPRISED BY  THOSE TO ACTIVITY CENTERS DO I  HAVE THAT PERCENTAGE WHAT TO  DO AND THAT WAS ALSO YOU KNOW  AND PAPER.  >> PROVIDING THAT INTENSITY  FOR COMMERCIAL USES IN THOSE  ACTIVITIES CENTERS WAS ON FDOT  IS RADAR THAT NEEDED TO BE  DONE IN ORDER TO JUSTIFY THAT  INTERCHANGE RIGHT RIGHT THANK  YOU.  >> FOR THAT SO I'M GOING TO  DROP THIS OFF WHETHER IT'S  HAVE HURT COPY TO EVERYONE  THINK SHE WANTS TO STAND FIRM  COMMISSIONER AVERAGE. VICE  MAYOR.  >> YEAH MY MY CONCERNS HERE IS  IS ESPECIALLY WITH  COMMISSIONER LANGDON BRINGING  UP WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE PRIOR  TO THIS AND TO HAVE THE SKIN  IN THE GAME AND A LOT OF IT  FALLING ON CHARLOTTE COUNTY.  WE'VE HAD. MULTIPLE PROJECTS  THAT WE'VE WORKED THROUGHOUT  THE YEARS TO WHERE WE'VE HAD  OUR MONEY AND WE WAITED ON  CHARLOTTE COUNTY TO COME UP  WITH THEIRS. HILLSBOROUGH  CHANCELLOR BOULEVARDS.  HILLSBOROUGH AND CRANBERRY ALL  THAT STUFF A STALLED BECAUSE  OF CHARLOTTE COUNTY. I WAS  JUST GOING TO BE ANY DIFFERENT  MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE THEY'VE  GOT A WIDE AND VETERANS THAT'S  GOING TO BE ONE **** OF A  PAYCHECK OUT THERE. WHY BRING  TREE. WELL RAIN TREE, BUT YOU  ALSO MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT  THAT AND SO WHEN GET TO BENDER  OKAY, BUT IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT  ACCESS OR ERODES AND STUFF  LIKE THAT MAYBE JUST MAYBE.  THAT WOULDN'T BE NEEDED IF WE  JUST HAD THE INTERCHANGE IT  YOUR CAR LIKE WE INITIALLY  INTENDED BACK IN THE DAY. SO  MAYBE WE NEED TO HAVE A CHAT  WITH FDOT BUT PRIOR TO THAT  WHEN YOU GET CHAT CHARLOTTE  COUNTY TO FIND OUT WHAT THEIR  FINANCIAL SITUATION IS WHAT'S  THEIR TIMELINE ON GETTING THE  SKIN IN THE GAME COMPLETED.  AND THEN WHAT WE NEED TO DO  BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE A LOT  MORE READY. FINANCIALLY AND I  KNOW IT'S A BURDEN BUT I THINK  WE CAN GET IT DONE. WE'VE GOT  3 OTHER COMMITMENTS OUT THERE  WITH CHARLOTTE COUNTY THAT ARE  NOT DONE YET THAT THEY STILL  HAVE TO COMMIT WITH US WHICH  AGAIN HILLSBOROUGH LOT OF  PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING THIS  POTHOLE CITY. ALL THE WAY AND  WE FIX OUR WE  >> LAS LLAMAS BUMPY ON NORTH  PORT SIDE. SO I MEAN IT'S JUST  SOME CONVERSATIONS WE'RE GOING  TO HAVE TO HAVE AND GET  CLARITY AND I'VE GOT NO NO  ISSUES MOVING IT BACK TO YOUR  RIGHT IN OUR INDUSTRIAL AND  COMMERCIAL AREA AND MEAN.  >> THAT'S JUST BEING GREEDY  THAT YOU KNOW THAT'S ME.  COMMISSIONER PICTURE.  >> NEW TO THIS SO TO GET THE  SKIN THE GAME KUZ RESPONSIBLE  TO COOPERATE, BUT THE CERTAIN  WITH THE CHARLOTTE COUNTY. AND  WHO IS THE ONE FOLLOWS UP. AND  HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE. SO WE  DON'T GET STALLED ON THESE AS  A VICE MAYOR MENTIONED 3.  BEHIND WORK STOPPED AND WE'RE  TALKING ABOUT THAT FOR I. IT  STARTED THIS EVENT ARE SAYING  THAT WE DON'T HAVE. PUSH OF SO  WHO IS THAT. OR WHO IS THE  DEPARTMENT RESPONSIBLE TO  FOLLOW UP AND BE A CONNECTING.  CITY.  >> COMMISSIONER THIS TO TO  THEIR THE PUBLIC WORKS  DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY TALKS OF  DOT DEPARTMENT OF  TRANSPORTATION.  >> OUR BEHALF AND NO LET.  DIRECTOR SPEAK TO THAT.  >> BUT ALSO WE HAVE THE  LEADERSHIP FOR WE NEED WAS  FROM THE COUNTY'S LEADERSHIP  STAFF TO COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR  IS OUR OFFICE SUITES EVERY AS  EVERY OTHER WELL SO HAPPY BUT  THE CONVERSATION ON THAT IS  BUT WE'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE  COVID THE CHARLOTTE COUNTY OR  ACCOUNTABLE. I DO WANT TO SURE  THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE  HAVE THE STAFF DO WE SORT OF  FIXATE IDEA THAT WE'RE AT WHAT  WE'RE DOING AND JUST LIKE WE  BRING IT MAKES BACK TO YOU  DAYS, I'M PRETTY SURE THEY DO  THE SAME THING ANYTHING THAT  NEEDS TO BE CHANGE FROM WHAT  WE'VE ALREADY SORT DISCUSSED  IN THE PAST NEEDS TO. WHAT  HAPPENED ABOARD THE BOARD  LEVEL WHICH WOULD HAVE IF THE  MEETING THAT WE SORT OF  BREXIT. WANT ADD TO THAT.  >> YES SIR, I TRUST PUBLIC  WORKS DIRECTOR. SO. JUST TO  KIND OF TOUCH ON THE PROCESS  AND WHERE WE ARE IN THE  PROCESS THIS. WE HAVE WE HAVE  SORT OF PRESSURE ON FDOT  ENOUGH TO WHERE THEY ARE FAST  TRACKING. AS COMMISSIONER  MENTION THIS THIS INTERCHANGE  OF THE REASON IT IS. SHARE  INTERCHANGE BRAINTREE AND WITH  YOUR SHY OR RATHER THAN BEING  A DEDICATED YORKSHIRE  INTERCHANGES IT'S MUCH CHEAPER  FOR THEM TO BUILD THAT SO THAT  HELPED MOVE THAT FORWARD IT'S  ALL ON OFF. INSTEAD OVERHEAD  BUILDING BRIDGES AND  OVERPASSES AND SUCH SO THAT  KIND OF HELP THIS FORWARD  THAT'S WHY THAT DESIGN CHOSEN.  IT'S QUICKER TO BUILD. THE  MAIN PROBLEM IS THE PROCESS TO  GET THERE WITH FDOT W A RIGHT  SO ALANIS TEAM IS WORKING ON  THAT FIRST PART OF THAT IS  GETTING THE BEST DEVELOP  TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT INCLUDE  IT. AND DEVELOPER THAT'S  THAT'S. I IMPROPER TEASE OUT  THERE IS INTEREST EVERYONE OF  COURSE BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE  THE BEST OPTIONS FOR SOMEONE  TO BUY THAT UP AND. GENERATE  MORE INTEREST IN THAT THAT  LOCATION ACTUALLY GET SOME  STATEMENT CAME FROM PRIVATE  DEVELOPER AS WELL CITY AND THE  COUNTY. A PART OF THAT PROCESS  FOR US IS WE HAVE TO WHY THOSE  ROADWAYS. AND A LOT OF THOSE  ROADWAYS ARE WITHIN THE CITY  OF PORT. SO THAT'S A BIG  EXPENSE FOR US. SO YOU KNOW  PUT SOME MONEY INTO THOSE  PROJECTS AND WE HAVE A CIP FOR  THAT INTERCHANGE AS WE'VE HAD  THE SHIP MONEY TO COVER ALL OF  OUR WIDENING AS THE COSTS HAVE  GONE UP. WE'VE HAD TO PULL  THAT RESTORATION OF FACT KIND  OF OUT OF THE PROJECT THE MOVE  THAT THAT WILL CONTINUE TO  FEED THAT PROJECT AND YOU'LL  SEE THAT IN OUR BUDGET AND SO  WE CAN START MAKING THOSE  CHANGES OUT THERE. CHARLOTTE  COUNTY HAS A HUGE VESTED  INTEREST IN THIS BECAUSE  THEY'RE INTERSECTION VETERANS  AND KINGS HIGHWAY COMPLETELY  OVER PAST. RIGHT THAT'S THAT  INTERCHANGE IS BEYOND CAPACITY  AND FDOT COUNTER WHERE SO  EVERYBODY IS HAS AN URGENCY TO  GET THIS PROJECT DONE. I THINK  YOU'LL FIND THAT AT THE LOCAL  LEVEL. WE UNDERSTAND THE  TIMELINE LOT IT'S W A. GIVES  US AND WE'LL WORK WITHIN THAT  TIMELINE BUT THERE WILL BE A  TIME THAT WE WILL HAVE TO  EXPERIENCE THAT EXPENSE OF  INVESTING MONEY WHERE THERE  SEEMS TO BE NOTHING OUT THERE.  WRIGHT IS THAT THE BEST  INVESTMENT. THE BEST PLACE FOR  US TO PUT THOSE FUNDS NOW SO  USING THAT MEANT HOW ARE WE  HAVE A LOT MORE TRAFFIC A LOT  MORE PEOPLE. YOU KNOW THAT'S  GOING TO BE THE BALANCE THAT  WILL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THE  NEXT PROBABLY 10 YEARS BECAUSE  THEY WON'T GO TO THE SIGN ON  THIS PROJECT UNTIL WE HAVE OUR  INFRASTRUCTURE IN LINE.  >> CERTAINLY BEFORE LEAVES SO  I WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY. IS  EVEN CHARLOTTE COUNTY WANT TO  RAIN TREE. BRAINTREE IS  TECHNICALLY IN THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT. AND WE WOULD BE  RESPONSIBLE FOR IMPROVEMENTS.  2 RAINTREE.  >> THERE WILL BE SOME  IMPROVEMENTS OR ENTRY AS WELL  AS YORKSHIRE UP THERE BECAUSE  WHAT FDOT LOOKS AT HIS.  THEY'RE NOT JUST LOOKING AT  THE INTERCHANGE AND DUMPING  TRAFFIC NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT  THE TRAFFIC THAT COMES OFF OF  THE INTERSTATE HAS A PASS TO  GET WHERE IT NEEDS TO GO. I  GUESS MY QUESTION IS MORE.  >> SINCE RAINTREE IS WITHIN  THE CITY LIMITS AT LEAST MOST  OF IT I THINK PART OF THAT IS  CHARLOTTE COUNTY WHAT LEVERAGE  DO WE HAVE. TO INFLUENCE  CHARLOTTE COUNTY TO PARTNER  WITH US ON THE RAINTREE  PORTION.  >> I THINK YOU'LL FIND THAT ON  THE GREAT PARTNER OF THAT WE  WORK VERY WELL WITH THEM. I  THINK YOU'LL FIND THAT  CHARLOTTE COUNTY IS GOING TO  TAKE CARE OF THE IMPROVEMENTS  NEEDED CHARLOTTE COUNTY AND  THE CITY OF NORTH PORT WILL  HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THE  IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN CITY  LIMITS. AND WE'LL GO ABOUT  FUNDING FOR THAT ONE ANY WHICH  WAY WE CAN BOTH SEARCH FOR  GRATZ EVERYWHERE WE CAN.  >> REPORTING IN RESPONSE TO  COMMISSIONER PETROS QUESTION I  WOULD ASSUME THEY WOULD BE A  FLURRY OF INTER LOCAL  AGREEMENTS ONCE WE GET DOWN TO  THE BRASS TACKS OF WORKING  TOGETHER ON THOSE PROJECTS  THERE WILL BE WHERE THE WHERE  THE PROJECTS WHAT KIND RIGHT  WHERE THEY WILL  >> CITY MENTAL WHEN DID YOU  SAY WOULD BE EAST. THE  COMMISSION'S OPPORTUNITY TO  SIT WITH SO. WITH THEIR  COUNTERPARTS  >> THAT'S GET BUT BASED ON  KIND TAKEN TODAY REACH OUT SEE  IF WE DO.  >> ALONG WITH THEIR BODY IN  OUR BODIES SCHEDULED MAKE THAT  HAPPEN I WOULD IMAGINE YOU  WANT IT TO HAPPEN.  >> 1ST QUARTER OR LEASE FOR A  AND OR 2ND QUARTER OF NEXT  YEAR. OR DO YOU NEED A  CONSENSUS FOR  >> YOU KNOW I I THINK WE ONLY  OUR CITY MANAGER'S REPORT, I'M  NOT MISTAKEN. SO WE'LL JUST  FOLLOW UP GOING MAKE IT.  HAPPENED A FULL SCHEDULE OF  BOARDS.  >> YOU KNOW, SO THAT  >> I MEAN I WOULD JUST SAY  THAT. I REALLY WANTED  SPOTLIGHT ON THIS PROJECT  THERE ARE SO MANY MOVING PARTS  AND THEY'RE ALSO  INTERDEPENDENT I'D REALLY LIKE  TO REVIEW IT ON MAYBE A  QUARTERLY BASIS. JUST AFTER OF  US AN WHERE VARIOUS PIECES  ARE. AND AND IT MIGHT BE THE  1ST QUARTER ARE TOO WELL, NO  NEWS REALLY. THANK YOU SHOULD  START ACCELERATING A LITTLE OF  AND THE REASON FOR MY URGENCY  IS AND I GET WHAT YOU'RE  SAYING IT'S GOING TO BE A  REALLY TOUGH DECISION TO  ALLOCATE RESOURCES TO  SOMETHING THAT IS SO FAR IN  THE FUTURE WHEN WE HAVE SO  MANY NEEDS RIGHT NOW WITHIN  THE CITY. BUT WE DON'T MAKE  THOSE ACTIVITIES CENTERS  HAPPEN AND SOONER RATHER THAN  LATER HOW ARE WE GOING TO PAY  FOR EVERYTHING ELSE. IT WILL  BE SUCH A STRAIN ON THE  TAXPAYERS OF THIS CITY THAT  THAT'S REALLY WHAT'S FUELING  MY SENSE OF URGENCY IS 2 WAYS  TO APPROACH THE SITUATION  WHERE IN CUTTING EXPENSES  WHICH IS NEVER WHERE I WANT IT  I ALWAYS WANT TO BE ON HOW DO  WE STIMULATE THE REVENUE SIDE  OF THE EQUATION. BUT BUT WE  HAVE A DELTA OF A BUNCH OF  YEARS. BEFORE WE START SEEING  THE BENEFICIAL EFFECTS OF THE  REZONING IN TERMS OF OUR CITY  BUDGET AND I'M VERY CONCERNED  ABOUT THAT.  >> SO COULD THOSE UPDATES COME  BACK TO THE COMMISSION AS OF  >> SURE AND THEN WE CAN ALWAYS  PUT IT ENGENDER DEAL. WE WANT  TO DISCUSS IT. YEAH. THANK  YOU. CERTAINLY RIGHT.  >> SO THE REALLY ANY PUBLIC  COMMENTS YOU SAY LET ME MY  FELLOW COMMISSIONERS SAID THIS  2 MINUTES WE REMAINING ITEM ON  AGENDA TODAY KIDS ARE A QUASI  JUDICIAL TRAINING.  >> I DON'T KNOW LONG THAT'S  GOING TO RUN TO WE WANT TAKE A  45 MINUTE LUNCH BREAK AT NOON  AND THEN COME BACK WHERE WE  WANT POWER I READ HOW LONG IS  TOO LONG QUESTIONS. I MEAN IF  IT'S A HALF AN TAKE A QUICK  BREAK NOW AND. ALL RIGHT INTO  WHEN IT TAKES 15 MINUTES. THAT  WHICH THAT.  >> LET'S YOU BACK HERE AT 10  AFTER 12.  >> THAT ALONG WITH A LOT OF  RAIN THAT COMES FROM ALSO  CAUSED AN INCREASE OF WATER  FLOODING INTO THE RIVER AND  INTO OUR WATER MANAGEMENT  CAUSING FLOODING AS WELL.  PUBLIC WORKS IS A LOT OF WORK  BEFORE THE STORM TO MAKE SURE  THAT OUR WATER LEVELS POSSIBLE  FOR WEAKNESS AND THE WAR  AGAINST STORM SURGE AND  FLOODING IN OUR WATER SYSTEMS  IF YOU WANT ADDITIONAL  INFORMATION ON THAT WE HAVE A  GREAT DEAL ABOUT A LOT FOLKS  ♪ >> REX HAS A FULL CLASS TRX  CAMP IS A NEW CLASS FOR ME,  ALTHOUGH I'VE BEEN USING TRS  FOR MANY YEARS WITH PERSONAL  TRAINING THAT I DO OR IN OTHER  STYLES CLASSES THAT I'VE DONE.  BUT AN ACTUAL FOCUS WITH JUST  TRX THIS IS A NEW CLASSROOM. I  LOVE THE CAMARADERIE TO SAY  WITH ALL  ♪ THE PARTICIPANTS. I THINK WE  HAVE A LOT OF FUN. FIRST OF  ALL EVERYONE GETS TO THE MANS  THAT YEAR EXPENSE OF BEING  THAT WE HAVE 5 STATIONS SO WE  HAVE OVERFLOW OR MORE THAN 5  PEOPLE. PART OF THE PEOPLE ON  THEM AND THE OTHER PEOPLE ARE  DOING FOR WORK AND THEN WE'LL  SWITCH SO EVERYBODY GETS AN  OPPORTUNITY TO BE AN ALL  STATIONS JUST COME HAVE FUN  WITH IT MAKING YOUR OWN IT'S  NOT SCARY. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO  BE INTIMIDATING AT ALL YOU'RE  USING YOUR BODY WEIGHT USING  THE ANGLES THAT YOU CHOOSE TO  USE ON THE MAN'S AND IT JUST  VARIES WITH HOW YOU'RE  COMFORTABLE AND HOW YOU'RE  FEELING WHEN YOU'RE HERE.  ♪ >> HELLO EVERYONE, MY NAME IS  THE VAN PULL ON THE AQUATICS  MANAGER WITHIN OUR PARKS  RECREATION DEPARTMENT WERE  HERE TODAY AT THE NORTH PORT  AQUATIC CENTER JUST TO TALK TO  EVERYONE ABOUT OUR FLOW FOR  LIFE PROGRAM WE RECOGNIZE THAT  NATIONALLY UNINTENTIONAL  DROWNING IS THE LEADING CAUSE  OF DEATH FOR CHILDREN THAT ARE  UNDER THE AGE OF 4. SO WE HAVE  AN AWESOME PROGRAM HERE CALLED  FLOAT FOR LIFE. BLOW FOR LIFE  IS A PROGRAM THAT WE TEACH  THAT STARTS WITH THE  FUNDAMENTALS FLOATING BEFORE  WE ACTUALLY LEARNED SWIMMING.  THIS PROGRAM IS TARGETED FOR  THOSE CHILDREN AGES 6 MONTHS  TO AND WHAT WE WANT THEM TO DO  IS WE WANT THEM TO GET  COMFORTABLE IN THE WATER AND  IF THEY ACTUALLY FALL IN THE  WATER OR FIND THEMSELVES IN A  TROUBLED SITUATION, THEY CAN  ROLL OVER THEIR BACK AND FLOAT  WHEN WE LAUNCHED THIS PROGRAM  WE WERE THE ONLY ONE IN THE  STATE THAT WAS ACTUALLY  TEACHING THIS MILESTONE  PROGRAM SO WANT TO GIVE A  SHOUT OUT TO OUR NORTH PORT  ROTARY AS WELL WHO SPONSORED  THIS PROGRAM HERE AT THE  AQUATIC CENTER AND ACTUALLY  PAY FOR A TRAINER TO COME ALL  THE WAY FROM NEBRASKA WHERE  THIS PROGRAM ORIGINATES THERE  WE PRACTICE AND WE GO THROUGH  WHAT'S CALLED MILESTONES HERE  SO AS SOON AS THE KIDS  PROGRESSIVE, THE MILESTONE WE  CAN CONTINUE MOVING ON THROUGH  THEM AND AT THE END OF IT IT'S  A PRETTY AWESOME PROGRAM WHEN  THEY GRADUATE AS ONE OF THE  FINAL THINGS THAT THEY DO IS  THEY JUMP IN FULLY CLOTHED AND  THEY HAVE TO TURN OVER ROLL  OVER ON THEIR BACK AND  ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO SCREAM FOR  HELP AND POINT IN TIME, IT'S  JUST AN AWESOME SEGMENT  PROGRAM THAT LEADS RIGHT INTO  OUR LEARN TO SWIM PROGRAM SO  THAT WAY WE CAN  ♪ MAKE SURE WE'RE KEEPING OUR  KIDS SAFE IN ON AND AROUND THE  WATER.  >> OH MY  >> ALWAYS GET VERY EXCITED  WHEN ANYBODY ASKS ME ABOUT MY  JOB AND WHERE I WORK AND WHAT  I DO IT'S NOT A SECRET THAT I  LOVE WORKING FOR THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT I WORKED FOR  CHARLOTTE COUNTY AND I FELT  THAT I NEEDED TO DO SOMETHING  DIFFERENT AND I WANTED  SOMETHING MORE AND I WANT  OFFER MY SKILLS TIES TO TELL  MY FRIEND DON'T KNOW WHAT TO  DO AND I WAS THINKING ABOUT MY  NEXT STEPS IN SHE SAID DID YOU  THINK ABOUT APPLYING TO JOBS.  THE CITY OF NORTH PORT THEY  HAVE A DIFFERENT VIBE HERE AND  SHE SAID LOVE IT AND I SAID  COULD THINK ABOUT THAT SO I  APPLIED AND I STARTED MY FIRST  POSITION A PLANNING AND ZONING  OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES  DEPARTMENT I'M PARTNERED WITH  THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.  >> BECAUSE MY MIND THE FEES  ARE ASSESSED OFF OF BUILDING  PERMITS AND IT'S STRICTLY FOR  NEW CONSTRUCTION, NEW  DEVELOPMENT.  ♪ AND THE FIRST THING I DO IS TO  CHECK THE SPREADSHEET TO LOOK  AT THE PERMITS AND DETERMINED  WHICH ONES NEED ME TO ESTIMATE  THEIR IMPACT FEES AND THAT'S  WHY START WITH THAT THEN I GO  TO NUMBERS THAT I HAVE TO PUT  TOGETHER AND I PUT TOGETHER  INVOICES FOR DEVELOPERS OFTEN  TIMES GET PHONE CALL TO GET  VOTES BEFORE THE DEVELOPMENT  COMES THROUGH AND SO  DEVELOPERS WANT TO KNOW HOW  MUCH THEY CAN BUDGET FOR  SOMETIMES I PUT  ♪ 2 PROPOSED ESTIMATE TO HELP  THEM LIKE THAT. THE BULK OF IT  IS IT'S MAKING SURE THAT THE  FEES ARE IN THE SYSTEM FAST AS  POSSIBLE I LOVE THE ESPRIT DE  CORPS THAT EXPERIENCE. JUST  HOW EVERYBODY TEAMWORK  TOGETHER I I ENJOY KNOWING  THAT I CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE  FOR THE CITY AND THAT MY  POSITION CAN HAVE A POSITIVE  IMPACT.  ♪ ♪ >> OUR CITY.  ♪ >> I'M STACEY LOSO I'M THE  EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT  COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT AND WE'RE GOING  TO TALK ABOUT WHY IT'S  IMPORTANT TO HAVE A GO KIT AND  WHAT SHOULD GO INSIDE OF IT,  IT'S IMPORTANT HAVE A GO BAG  BECAUSE IF YOU WAIT LAST  MINUTE TO PACK THEY'RE  DEFINITELY GOING TO BE ITEMS  THAT YOU'RE GOING TO FORGET  AND THE SCRAMBLE TO GET  EVERYTHING TOGETHER SO IT'S  IMPORTANT TO YOUR DOCUMENTS  SUCH AS ID'S INSURANCE  PAPERWORK TITLES FOR YOUR HOME  AND YOUR VEHICLES AND YOUR  BOATS JUST SO THAT IF YOUR  HOME DOES FLOOD OR ALL THOSE  DOCUMENTS ARE WITH YOU AND  THEY'RE SAFE BECAUSE YOU DON'T  WANT TO END UP LOSING THOSE  AND HAVING TO TRY TO REPLACE  THOSE LATER ON ALSO IN YOUR GO  BAG THAT YOU SHOULD THINK  ABOUT WHAT MEDICATIONS YOU  MIGHT NEED TO HAVE AHEAD OF  TIME FOR UNDER A STATE OF  EMERGENCY YOU ARE ABLE TO  REFILL PRESCRIPTIONS AHEAD OF  TIME EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT DO  YET. SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO DO  THAT ALSO IN YOUR GO BAGS YOU  SHOULD HAVE NON-PERISHABLE  FOOD FLASHLIGHT BATTERIES, A  RADIO THAT IS BATTERY POWERED  AND EXTRA BATTERIES SHOULD ALL  POWER GO OUT WE WILL BE ABLE  TO BROADCAST ON 97.5 FM ANY  EMERGENCY INFORMATION SO BE  SURE TO HAVE BATTERY POWERED  RADIO READY IN TUNED IN TO 97  POINT.  ♪ >> BELIEVE THAT THE NATURAL  RESOURCES DEPARTMENT WILL BE  INTEGRAL PART FOR THE CITY'S  GROWTH IS WE WANT TO ACHIEVE A  MORE BALANCED APPROACH OF  DEVELOPMENT IN THE FUTURE WHAT  WE REALLY WANT TO DO IS SEE  SENSIBLE DEVELOPMENT  SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT.  >> AND ABOUT A MONTH THAT IN  LYON WAIVES WHAT WE DO HAVE  ALREADY HAVE HASTENED WE WANT  TO PRESERVE AS MUCH AS WE CAN  OF NATURAL RESOURCES, SO THAT  IS STILL PLACE POLL ON THE OF  ZAW ALL MIKE WRITING BAD  SADDLE THE OF THE SPECIES THAT  SURVIVED IT ALL HABITAT THAT  ROLE SYSTEMS. BIG PART OF.  >> THE WAYS YOU CALL SYSTEMS  FUNCTION AND IMPORTANT PARTS  FOR OUR COMMUNITY, OUR LIST  THE SPECIES THEY STABILIZE THE  SOIL THEY PROVIDES SO MANY  DIFFERENT BENEFITS, INCLUDING  SHADE LIMITING THE HEAT ISLAND  EFFECTS WITHIN OUR CITY  ♪ PROVIDING HABITAT PROVIDING  SHELTER FOR THE SPECIES. JUST  TO ALSO FOR OUR IS THAT HE CAN  JOIN MINCE WELL AS AN A LOT OF  WHAT I DO IS.  >> MAKING SURE THAT  DEVELOPMENT CONFORMS TO THE  TREE PROTECTION CODE SO ONE  THING WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE  SINCE APRIL OF 2022. IS A TREE  PROTECTION CODE WHICH IS QUITE  ROBUST AND THE CITY OF NORTH  PORT THAT WAS ADOPTED BY  COMMISSION AND THE CITY ALSO A  LOT OF COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT  AND SO WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO  HAVE THE TREE PROTECTION CODE  SO.  >> WHAT A LOT OF WHAT I DO IS  MAKING SURE THAT DEVELOPMENT  IN THE RESIDENTIAL OR  COMMERCIAL CONFORMS TO THAT  CODE WE OFF SUCH A PASSIONATE  TAME WE COME FROM.  >> FACT I THINK BETWEEN US WE  HAVE A 100 OF EXPERIENCE AS WE  ARE EVERY RIGHT WING TO GO OUT  AND YOU KNOW WE KNOW WHAT HE'S  CAUGHT OUT. WITH A HAPPY TO  TAKE THE CHALLENGE TO DIVISION  ♪ COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT.  >> AND LEADERSHIP IN THE CITY  WE REALLY HAVE TO MAKE GREAT  STRIDES AND PROTECTING WHAT WE  HAVE HERE AND FINDING THAT  BALANCE WITH DEVELOPMENT AND  ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP, I'M  EXCITED TO BE A PART OF THIS  TEAM REALLY SEEKING AND  LOOKING FORWARD TO THE  OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO BE  ABLE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.  >> STARTED CHARLOTTE COUNTY  UTILITIES AS A METER READER IN  2004. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE  I GOT MY FOOT IN THE DOOR AND  WANT REACH A POINT MY LIFE FOR  THINGS ARE MORE STABLE AND I  DECIDED TO LEAVE CHARLOTTE  COUNTY UTILITIES. AND I WENT  AND GOT MY INTERNS LICENSE  THOSE VERY EXCITING DOING THAT  FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME,  BUT AFTER A WHILE I STARTED  THINKING ABOUT THE UTILITY.  >> IT EVERYBODY BECAUSE ONE  RIGHT LETTER THE 24 1, 5, 6,  7, TRAINING QUASI JUDICIAL  PROCEEDINGS. MISTER BERGERON  THIS IS YOUR ITEMS ARE.  >> THANK YOU MAYOR, YES.  >> MOST OF YOU THIS WILL BE.  WILL BE JUST A REFRESHER FOR  SOME OF YOU MIGHT BE NEW  INFORMATION. I THINK YOU HAVE  ANY QUESTIONS ALONG THE SO IF  JUMP IN ASK ME I WILL DO MY  BEST TO ANSWER THEM.  >> WE'RE HERE TODAY TO TALK  ABOUT QUASI JUDICIAL MATTERS  THAT ARE GOING TO BE VERY  BEFORE THIS BOARD. AND WHAT  OUR CODE IN LAW REQUIRES YOU  TO DO MORE TO MAKE SURE  EVERYBODY GETS A FAIR HEARING  DURING THESE QUASI JUDICIAL  PROCEEDINGS THE JAZZ AND USUAL  PROCEDURE BASICALLY YOU'RE  SITTING AS AS THE JUDGE MAY  THE I'M IN DECIDING WHETHER OR  NOT. TAKE AWAY OR TO DO  SOMETHING THAT WOULD IMPACT  SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY RIGHTS. SO  GENERALLY QUASI JUDICIAL  MATTER HAVE TO DEAL WITH  PROPERTY RIGHTS AND IS COVERED  BY. CITY'S CODE AND USED BY  IT'S A COMMISSION PLANNING AND  ZONING BOARD ZONING BOARD OF  APPEALS IN CODE ENFORCEMENT IN  CONFRONTING HEARINGS. ENSURE  THAT PROPER DUE PROCESS FOR  THE APPLICANT WHOEVER IT IS  THAT IS DEALING WITH THAT  PARTICULAR ITEM.  ♪ YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IS THAT IT  IS THE APPLICATION OF THE  CITY'S REGULATIONS TO A  SPECIFIC PROPERTY MOST LIKELY  GENERALLY AND NOT FOR  ♪ THE CREATION OF A GENERAL CITY  REGULATION LAR POLICY. SO  GOING TO BE LIKE I SAID SOME  TAKE SPECIFIC RELATE SPECIFIC  PIECE OF PROPERTY GENERALLY  AND IT WILL BE THE IMPACT  LIMITED NUMBER OF PERSONS ARE  SPECIFIC APPLICANT, OR THERE  WOULD BE ASKING FOR SPECIAL  EXCEPTIONS. PARLIAMENT  APPLICATIONS FOR PRELIMINARY  FINAL PLATS VARIANCES IN THE  ULDC I RETURN IT TO STAFF  MONTHS AND COULD PUSH IN HERE  NOW A NEW ULDC HAS CHANGED  SOME OF THIS YOU'RE NOT GOING  TO SEE THING SUBMITTED UNDER  THE NEW ULDC FOR VARIANCES AND  ITEMS SUCH AS THAT, BUT  SOMETHING COMES IN AT THE OLD  ULYSSES STILL APPLIES YOU YOU  MIGHT SEE THEY'RE GOING TO  TAPER OFF THINGS ARE GOING TO  BE DONE WERE ADMINISTRATIVELY  AND YOU HAVE TO SEE AS MANY OF  THOSE, BUT. THAT'S A GOOD  THING. YOUR ROLE IS QUASI  JUDICIAL DECISION MAKERS IS  REALLY TO REMAIN FAIR AND  IMPARTIAL WHEN DECIDING AND  WHEN CONSIDERING EVIDENCE YOU  HEAR DURING THE HEARING. I'M  GOING TO LISTEN TO THE FACTS  IN A WAY THE EVIDENCE AS  PRESENTED TO YOU YOU'RE GOING  TO MAKE YOUR CONCLUSIONS.  YOU'RE GOING TO APPLY HER  DISCRETION UNDER THE LAW. MANY  IN A FAIR AND IMPARTIAL I DO  THAT. SO WHAT DOES ALL MEAN WE  HAVE THE CIVICS PROCEDURES  THAT APPLY IN THAT ARE  CODIFIED IN OUR CODE THAT  APPLY. AND THOSE PROCEDURES  ARE YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU  ON WHEN CHEAT CHEAT AND WE  HAVE THIS ON THE AGENDA IF YOU  DON'T ALREADY HAVE THAT  BASICALLY START WITH THE  INTRODUCTION AND SWEARING IN  WITNESSES. WE'RE GOING TO  PARTE DISCLOSURES. WE DO  HEARING PART OF THE OF THE  WE'LL TAKE EVIDENCE IN HERE.  HEAR THAT EVIDENCE REBUTTALS  ASK QUESTIONS TAKE PUBLIC  COMMENTS HAVE CLOSING  ARGUMENTS AND THEN YOU TAKE  YOUR ACTION TO MAKE BOTH EACH  ONE OF QUICKLY 2 I GET A GOOD  UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THEY ALL  ARE SO NUMBER ONE IN THE CASE.  THE MAYOR WILL CALL FOR THE  INTRODUCTION OF THE MATTER THE  READ THAT INTO THE RECORD AND  SHE WILL THEN DELIVER THE OATH  TO ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO  PRESENT EVIDENCE DURING BACK  WATCHING ADDITIONAL HEARING  AND THAT INCLUDES ATTORNEYS  FOR THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE  REPRESENTATIVES OF THE  PARTIES. OUR CODE TRAINS ARE  REQUIRED TO TO TELL THE TRUTH  ALSO AND ALSO ANYONE GETTING  PUBLIC COMMENT WILL SWEAR TELL  THE TRUTH. SO WHEN THE COMES  IN LATE COURSE WILL THEN HAVE  TO TAKE THAT OATH BEFORE THEY  PRESENT TESTIMONY OR SPEAK TO  ANY QUASI JUDICIAL MATTER. EX  PARTE DISCLOSURES. EX PARTE  IS. IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT  YOU AS THE JUDGE ARE EXPECTED  TO CONSIDER ONLY THE EVIDENCE  THAT YOU HEAR AT THE HEARING.  SO ANYTHING VERBALLY ARE  WRITTEN THAT YOU HAVE RECEIVED  FROM OUTSIDE THIS HEARING ANY  INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION THAT  YOU'VE DONE OUTSIDE THIS  HEARING. YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE  THAT YOU HAVE DISCLOSE THAT  DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING TO  MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ON THE  RECORD. PRESENT A PREJUDICIAL  AGAINST THE APPLICANT IF YOU  DON'T DISCLOSE SO IT'S NOT YOU  LEGAL TO GO OUT AND LOOK AT A  SITE FOR EXAMPLE OR IT MORE  INFORMATION TO YOUR RESEARCH.  IT WOULD BE A VIOLATION OF LAW  WOULD BE NOT HAVE BEEN ON THE  RECORD SAY. I WENT OUT TO THE  SITE I HAD THIS CONVERSATION  THIS BUT WE TALKED ABOUT HAD  STUFF THAT WE HAVE I HAVE BEEN  INDEPENDENTLY THAT THE PARTIES  IN THIS ROOM DON'T HAVE AN  OPPORTUNITY HAVE AN  OPPORTUNITY TO INFLUENCE OR TO  REBUT OR TO MAKE ARGUMENT  AGAINST WHAT MY ALREADY  BELIEVED TO BE THE CASE. SO  WHEN PARTE COMMUNICATION  PORTION OF THE HEARING COMES  ON. YOU WANT TO MAKE THOSE  DISCLOSURES ON THE RECORD AND  IT MAY WELL ASK EVERYBODY FOR  THOSE DISCLOSURES MADE. SO OF  COURSE WANT WE ENCOURAGE YOU  NOT TO ENGAGE IN EX PARTE  COMMUNICATIONS TO THE EXTENT  POSSIBLE. AND THOSE WILL AVOID  THESE LEGAL CHALLENGES. SO  LIKE I MENTIONED YOU DON'T  WANT ONE PARTY WHO WAS.  PERHAPS AGAINST THEIR WHATEVER  THEY WANTED DIDN'T GO FORWARD  YOU DON'T WANT HAVE THE  ARGUMENT WELL WITH THE NIGHT  MY DUE PROCESS BECAUSE.  COMMISSIONER HAVE INFORMATION  I WASN'T ABLE TO ARGUE AGAINST  THAT INFORMATION. THEY WERE  NOT BEING FAIR AND IMPARTIAL  TO ME. IT TOOK OTHER  INFORMATION SHOULD HAVE BEEN  CONSIDERED AND SO HAVE THE  RIGHT TO CHALLENGE AND THEY  MAY IN THE COURTS. SO YOU WANT  THE APPLICANTS IN THE  RESIDENCE OF THE BEST  OPPORTUNITY PERCENT THEIR  POSITION DURING THAT PUBLIC  HEARING. SO DISCLOSURES CANDY  ABOUT VERBAL INFORMATION THAT  INFORMATION OR YOU SO I SPOKE  WITH SO AND SO BUT TOOK THE  CITY MANAGER ABOUT THIS ITEM  AND WE DISCUSSED I RECEIVE  EMAILS. I EMAIL EXCHANGE WITH  THE WITH THIS PERSON AND THIS  IS WHAT IT WAS ABOUT I WENT  OUT AND LOOKED AT THE PROPERTY  AND I COULD STILL BE VERY  IMPARTIAL AS NOT INFECT  AFFECTED ME OR CHANGE THE WAY  I'M GOING TO BEHAVE DURING  THIS PROCEEDING. IF YOU'VE  WRITTEN YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE  THAT THE CLERK HAS THAT OF  HEARING SHE CAN MAKE IT PART  OF THE PUBLIC RECORD. AND YOU  THINK VERBAL THAT YOU  DISCUSSED YOU WANT TO MAKE  SURE YOU DISCLOSE THAT. DONE.  IN ADDITION TO THAT YOU WANT  TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ON THE  RECORD AND WHAT'S ON THE  RECORD. YOU HAVE TO WORRY  ABOUT VIOLATING THAT SOLUTION.  SO THE WORLD THE BOARD DURING  A QUASI JUDICIAL HEARINGS IS  TO BE. IMPARTIAL AND NORTH  COURSE NOT INCLUDE  INVESTIGATING YOU WANT.  CONSIDER THE INFINITE EVIDENCE  HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU  DURING THE HEARING BY THE  PARTIES. SO YOU DON'T WANT TO  DO ANY OUTSIDE RESEARCH  INVESTIGATING. YOU WANT TO  REMAIN. EVERYBODY THE  REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY TO  DISCUSS ANY EVIDENCE TO REFUTE  ANY EVIDENCE TO PRESENT  EVIDENCE TO PREVENT TO PRESENT  THEIR TESTIMONY ONLY CONSIDER  THAT WHAT YOU HEAR DURING THE  HEARING SIMILAR TO A TO A  HEARING IN COURT YOU WOULDN'T  WANT THE JUDGE TO CONSIDER  ANYTHING THAT THEY ALREADY  KNOW OUTSIDE OF CONFERENCE  THAT COURTROOM VERY SIMILAR  HERE YOU WANT TO ONLY CONSIDER  I PRESENT YOU DOING HERE.  PRESENTATIONS AT ALL THEY DO  IN CODE IN VERY SIMPLE THE  APPLICANT WILL GO FIRST STAFF  WILL THEN PRESENT THERE  ARGUMENT AND THEN ANY  AGGRIEVED ADVERSELY AFFECTED  PARTIES AND EVERYONE GETS 20  MINUTES TO PRESENT THEIR SIDE.  THE STORY. NOW WHAT IS OWED IT  TO HARD TO DEFEND THEIR  POSITION. AGREED OR ADVERSELY  AFFECTED PARTIES CAN GET  TRICKY, SOMETIMES TALK A  LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT WHAT  DOES THAT MEAN HE'S BASICALLY  ANYBODY WE'RE A GROUP OF  PEOPLE WHO WOULD THE AFFECTED  BY YOUR DECISION MORE THAN THE  COMMUNITY AT LARGE. AND IF  SOMEONE BELIEVES THAT THEY'RE  GOING TO IMPACTED BY DECISION  MORE THAN IN COMMUNITY AT  LARGE THEY CAN APPLY TO THE  CLERK'S OFFICE. AGREED  ADVERSELY AFFECTED PARTY OR  PERSON AND GET AN OPPORTUNITY  TO PARTICIPATE IN THE HEARING  AND THAT MEANS THAT THEY GET  ANY OTHER PARTY MAKE THEIR  ARGUMENTS HAVE REBUTTAL  ARGUMENTS AND PRESENT  EVIDENCE. IF THEY MEET THE  REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE CODE TO  BE THAT. IVERSON EFFECT A  PARTY AND THOSE DEADLINES AND  THINGS SET UP IN THE CODE FOR  THAT. IF THE. AT THE HEARING  ANOTHER PARTY SAYS WILL BAT  GROUP OF THAT PERSON DOESN'T  QUALIFY AS A GREAT PERSON TO  PERSON. THE QUESTION WILL COME  TO THE BOARD TO MAKE THAT  DECISION UNDER THE CODE  REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE  PRESENTED. WE BELIEVE THAT  THEY ARE ADVERSE EFFECT A  PERSON AND IF YOU BELIEVE YES,  THEY ARE AND THEY GET TO  PARTICIPATE IF YOU THAT I  DON'T THINK YOU DO QUALIFY  UNDER THIS. REQUIREMENTS OF  THE CODE THEN THEY WOULD NO  LONGER BE A PARTY TO THE  ACTION BUT CAN STILL MAKE  PUBLIC COMMENT PARTICIPATE AS  ANY OTHER CITIZEN WOULD BUT  THAT DECISION MADE BY THE  BOARD. AND GENERALLY I THINK  EVERYONE I'VE SEEN HAS  COMPLIED I REALLY SEE ANYBODY  NOT IN COMPLIANCE AND THAT  EVER SEEN COME BEFORE THE  COURT BUT IT IS AN OPTION. SO  WHEN YOU'RE EVALUATING THAT  EVIDENCE WANT TO MAKE SURE  YOU'RE ONLY CONSIDERING  RELEVANT EVIDENCE. RELATED TO  THAT SUBJECT MATTER  APPLICATION AND SHOWING HOW IT  COMPLIES WITH CITY REGULATIONS  AND HOW IT OR HOW IT DOESN'T  COMPLY CITY REGULATIONS YOU  WANT EXCLUDE THE RELEVANT  INFORMATION EVIDENCE AND  MATERIAL EVIDENCE. AND AND TRY  YOUR BEST TO AVOID REPETITION  AND THEN IT'S YOU DON'T WANT.  I WOULD ADVISE YOU WOULDN'T  WANT 10 PEOPLE COMING UP IT'S  IN THE SAME EXACT SAME EXACT  WAY JUST TO PUT IT ON THE  RECORD. THAT WOULD BE  REPETITIOUS AND AND WOULD BE  HELPFUL. SO IT WOULD THE ROLE  OF THE BOARD TO MAKE SURE THAT  THINGS KEEP MOVING A POSITIVE  DIRECTION. 2 THINGS YOU WANT  TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION  WHEN HEARING ANY EVIDENCE WANT  TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION,  THE CREDIBILITY OF EVIDENCE  AND THE WEIGHT OF EVIDENCE BUT  FOR CREDIBILITY HOW INTERESTED  IS THIS PERSON IN WHAT THEY'RE  TELLING I MEAN EXPERT TODAY  THEY STUDIED THE IN AND HE  KIND OF INFORMATION TO PRESENT  TO YOU HAMMOND EXPERT, I LOOK  AT THESE THINGS IS WHAT I  BELIEVE. OR ARE THEY JUST A  PERSON WHO HAS AN OPINION ARE  THEY WHAT WE ARE EVEN PUT  BEHIND THAT THAT EVIDENCE IF  YOU CONSIDER IT MORE THAN  SOMEBODY ELSE'S BECAUSE OF  INFORMATION THAT THEY HAVE  BECAUSE THE EDUCATION OF HAVE  BECAUSE RESEARCH THAT THEY'VE  DONE AND YOU CAN ASK THEM  QUESTIONS AND CONSIDER. HOW  MUCH WEIGHT THAT COULD LEAD TO  PUT BEHIND EACH WITNESS  TESTIMONY. AGAIN YOU WANT TO  LOOK FOR COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL  EVIDENCE LAW REQUIRES THAT YOU  RESCISSION IS BASED ON  COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE  SO THAT MEANS REASONABLE  REASONABLE MIND I WOULD ACCEPT  AS ADEQUATE THAT EVIDENCE THAT  YOU ARE USING TO COME UP WITH  PERMISSION. THE REASON A  PERSON CONSIDER THAT TO BE  CREDIBLE. AFTER EVIDENCE IS  PRESENTED. EACH PARTY WILL  THEN HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY  REBUT WHAT THEY'VE JUST HEARD.  IT COULD PRESENT MORE EVIDENCE  CONFLICTS THEY CAN CROSS  EXAMINE ANOTHER WITNESS. AND  THAT'S 5 MINUTES FOR EACH  PERSON TO DO THAT. AND IN  TESTIMONY CUSTOM MISSION  EVIDENCE ALSO TESTIMONY RIPPED  AND THAT GOES FOR 3 PARTIES IF  ALL 3 ARE INVOLVED USUALLY  JUST THE 2. THE PUBLIC  COMMENT. AGAIN IF YOU'RE  GETTING PUBLIC COMMENT DURING  QUASI JUDICIAL ITEM YOUR SWORN  IN YOU ON THE EVENTS HERE AS  MANY ABOUT TO GIVE IS TRUE AND  CORRECT. IF YOU WANT TO GET  ONE PUBLIC COMMENT OR MORE  TIME TO SPEAK. A BOARD VOTE ON  THAT AND IT APPLIES TO EVERY  PUBLIC COMMENTER DURING THAT.  YOU CAN JUST GET ONE PERSON  MORE TIME YOU HAVE TO  EVERYBODY THE AFTER PUBLIC  COMMENT WILL GO TO THE BOARD'S  QUESTIONS. YOU COULD ASK  QUESTIONS OF ANY PARTY PERSON  ANYONE TO BE PUBLIC COMMENT.  AND YOU WANT YOU CAN THOSE  QUESTIONS TO SPECIFIC I WOULD  ADVISE THAT YOU DON'T ASK  SOMEBODY A SPECIFIC PERSON YOU  ADD, BUT YOU ASK THE PARTY IS  THE PART YOU LET THE PARTY  DECIDE WHO THE BEST PERSON  THAT THEY HAVE THERE. IT WOULD  BE THE ANSWER THAT QUESTION  THAT WAY YOU ARE GIVING THEM  THAT ABILITY AND HOT IN FOR  JEN ANY. OPPORTUNITY TO SAY I  WASN'T GIVEN MY FULL. BILITY  TO DEFEND MY POSITION BECAUSE  IT WOULD LET ME FOR TO ANOTHER  PERSON WHO IS BETTER AT ABLE  TO ANSWER THAT. SO WHEN ASKING  QUESTIONS RECOMMEND THAT YOU  DO THAT GENERALLY. IF  APPLICANT. THE ANSWER THIS  QUESTION VERSUS IF PARTICULAR  PERSON. AND I'M GOING TO  CLOSING ARGUMENTS AND THEN  THAT THE ORDER IS REVERSED  WITH THE HAS BURST THE  AFFECTED PERSONS GOING FIRST  AND STAFF AND THEN THE  APPLICANT AND THEN AGAIN 5  MINUTES EACH. ONCE ALL THAT IS  DONE THE I'M THE KING WILL BE  CLOSED. NO ADDITIONAL EVIDENCE  OR QUESTIONS CAN BE TAKEN OR  ASKED LESS PUBLIC HEARING IS  THEN REOPENED THE MAYOR OR THE  CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN ANY  MOTIONS THAT'S OPPORTUNITY TO  DEBATE AND DISCUSS. AND THEN A  VOTE WILL BE TAKEN. AGAIN  BASED COMPETENT AND  SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. SO  THINGS YOU WANT TO CONSIDER  WHAT DOES THE LAW REQUIRE BUT  IS IT COULD PROVIDE. WHAT  FACTS AND EVIDENCE HOW WE  HEARD AND DOES IT COMPLY WITH  THE CODE. TAKEN THAT  COMPETENCE ESSENTIAL OF GRANTS  AND THEN YOU'RE GOING MAKE  EMOTIONS. MOTION SHOULD  INCLUDE FINDINGS OF FACT IN  MANY TIMES ORDINANCES  RESOLUTIONS IN FRONT OF YOU  ALREADY HAVE THOSE INCLUDED.  WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO  MOVE TO APPROVE OR DENY THAT  APPLICATION. HUGE DON'T HAVE  TO JUST EMOTIONS. I PROVIDED  FOR GO THROUGH REVIEW TO MAKE  SURE THAT THEY COMPLY WITH  COULD CLIMB INTO THE LAW. THE  BOARD HAS THE AUTHORITY DURING  THAT HEARING TO CONTINUE IT IF  NECESSARY SO FOR EXAMPLE YOU  FEEL LIKE YOU DON'T HAVE  ENOUGH INFORMATION YOU NEED  MORE EVIDENCE ON ONE  PARTICULAR ITEM YOU NEED MORE  INFORMATION ON. ON SOMETHING  FOR YOU CAN MAKE A DECISION.  YOU CAN MOVE TO CONTINUE THE  HEARING ANOTHER TIME FOR A  GOOD CAUSE OF THE COST FOR  EXAMPLE WOULD BE THE MORE  INFORMATION MORE EVIDENCE BY  MAJORITY VOTE. CERTAIN DATE  AND PROVIDE NOTICE PROPER  NOTICE, THE PARTIES. HEELS  GETTING VERY CLOSE TIME TIME.  APPEALS. IF IT DOES NOT GO THE  WAY SOMEBODY WANTED TO GO THEN  THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO APPEAL  THE BOARD'S DECISION. IF IT IS  DENIED. THE BOARD'S COUNCIL  WILL PROVIDE ORDER DENYING AND  THE PERSON THE PARTY AFFECTED  BY THAT THAN I WILL HAVE 30  DAYS TO FILE AN APPEAL WITHIN  THE COURT SYSTEM AND FLORIDA  LAW SETS UP THE PROCESS FOR  HOW TO DO THAT AND THE THINGS  THAT THEY WILL NEED IN ORDER  TO DO THAT. IT'S BASICALLY 3  REASON SOMEBODY COULD APPEAL  ONE. IT DID NOT HAVE THEIR DUE  PROCESS RIGHTS BECAUSE OF A  PROCESS THAT HAPPEN BECAUSE  THEY GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO  SAY SOMETHING TO PRESENT SOME  EVIDENCE THAT THEY FELT THEY  NEEDED TO. ONE OF THE  COMMISSIONERS MAKING THAT  DECISION WAS NOT FAIR AND  IMPARTIAL. HE FAILED TO MAKE A  EXPERT A DISCLOSURE. THEY HAD  AND INTEREST IN SOMETHING THEY  HAD A CONFLICT OF INTEREST  PROPS AND THEN A LACK OF  CONFIDENCE. SUBSTANTIAL  EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THE  DECISION MADE BY THE BOARD.  THE BOARD MADE A DECISION THAT  THEY SAID WAS COMPANY CENTRAL  LONDON BASED ON COMPETENT  SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT  ARGUMENT IS THAT IT WAS NOT SO  THOSE 3 REASONS WE'LL GET WAY  INTO THE COURT SYSTEM TO MAKE  AN APPEAL OF REPORTS JEAN.  LEGAL COUNSEL HAS A ROLE AS  WELL. EACH BORED SITTING IN A  QUASI JUDICIAL CAPACITY. WE'LL  HAVE SOMEONE FROM THE STATE  ATTORNEY'S OFFICE THERE TO  REPRESENT THE BOARD TO ADVISE  THE BOARD ON. ISSUES THAT MAY  ARISE GENERALLY GIVE LEGAL  ADVICE ON ISSUE, NOT SPECIFIC  TO THAT. APPLICATION. ITS  STAFF NEEDS THEIR OWN COUNSEL  WHICH HAPPENS ON OCCASION  ADVICE. 2 BY CITY STAFF ON HOW  TO PROCEED OR ISSUES THAT  MIGHT COME UP. ARE OFF OFFICE.  RETAIN SOMEBODY TO REPRESENT  CITY STAFF WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN  ON OCCASION AS WELL. IT TURNS  OFFICE REVIEWS ALL THE  DOCUMENTS AGAIN FOR THE BOARD  ORDINANCES RESOLUTIONS OR  LEGAL SUFFICIENCY. WILL DRAFT  THE SUGGESTED MOTIONS. I'M  GOING TIME.  ♪ TEACHERS AWESOME AND GENERALLY  IS TO THE BOARD BACK ON TRACK  TO  ♪ ENSURE COMPLIANCE AND PROCESS  IS PRESERVED. AND THE RECORD  IS STRICT. AND THEN THAT'S ANY  QUESTIONS. YES SIR. THAT'S ON  AGGRIEVED PARTY. SO THE. A DAY  NOTICE.  >> IS IT AGGRIEVED PARTY SO  IDENTIFY OR GOES. THE CITY  SOMEONE MAKES AN APPLICATION  TO DO SOMETHING WITH PROPERTY  RIGHTS. THUS THE CITY STAFF  LOOK AND SAY HEY THIS GUY WHO  LIVES RIGHT NEXT DOOR. HE MAY  BE AN AGGRIEVED PARTY. SO  QUESTION. SO UNDER THE CITY'S  CODE.  >> THE THE YOU THE PERSON WHO  BELIEVES THAT THEY ARE DEGREE  DOOR BACK ADVERSELY AFFECTED  PERSON WOULD HAVE TO MAKE  APPLICATION TO THE CITY  CLERK'S OFFICE TO BECOME A  PARTY TO THAT ACTION. IT'S ON  THE.  >> INDIVIDUALS. OBLIGATION TO  DO THAT TASK.  >> I THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.  ASK  ♪ JUST 2 MONTHS SHY OF  ♪ 12 YEARS AND AND SO I REALIZED  DURING THAT TIME.  >> MY HEART WAS IN UTILITIES  AND SO I STARTED LOOKING