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St. Paul Arts and Culture Commission meeting to order for this date, August 5th, 2026. Uh, okay. Let's go to our roll call. Jordan, could you take a role for us? >> Uh, yes, I can. Uh, Tom Sonic, >> present. >> Carrie Neto, >> here.

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>> Ashley Perfect, >> here. Sharon Clark Williams, >> I am here. >> Raquel stood >> here. >> Laura String here. >> Eliza Verma here. Urosco Garcia is absent. And Troy Woods >> here.

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>> Okay. Thank you. Everybody is here except for UED. And I just want to take a moment and our staff liazison Jordan Layman is here also here. I also just want to take a a moment here to call out our our new moms that are both here,

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which is really cool. And Laura, you've been here for a couple uh here, but Raquel is back now after having her baby. So, I think I really appreciate that you that you both come out and make it for the meeting, having these little ones at home, which is really great.

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Um, okay. So, now we're going to move to adopt the agenda. Did everybody get to take a look at the agenda? I don't think there's anything unusual on here. Um, but if there's any questions, concerns, ads, edits, please let me know. Otherwise, we'll look for a motion to

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adopt the agenda as is. >> Motion to adopt. >> Sharon second. >> Motion lies a second. All in favor say I. >> I oppose. >> Okay, we adopted the agenda. Okay, we're moving on to the minutes. everyone get a chance to look at the meetings from our July 1st meeting.

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>> A lot has happened since that time. >> Any questions, changes? If not, we'll look for a motion to approve these minutes from July 1st, 2026. >> So moved. >> Moved by Carrie. >> Second. >> Second by Raquel. Back in the game. All

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in favor say I. >> I. Okay. Meetings are approved. >> Uh meeting open to the public. We have nobody from the public here. We have no public hearings, commission, business, action items or recommendations. So, we are moving on to our subcommittee updates and we'll start where we always

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do with our public art project subcommittee. Uh, any updates here, Raquel, Laura, and Carrie? >> Do we have an update on the penny press? Jordan? >> Um, it's kind of at the same I think I called them like a couple weeks ago and they're saying it's a couple weeks out. It'll be shipped soon, but I will

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probably send an email once I get like shipping confirmation. So, >> okay. Yeah. >> Cool. Thanks for doing that. >> I think that's it. Did we have anything? >> My sidewalk stamp guy has not responded to me, so I might find another vendor. But I did price out some feather flags

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to draw attention to our art cart and I don't know, that's kind of public arty. We want the public to see it. Um, I emailed Lisa Richie to try to get the logo that she designed Oh. in layers because I have kind of an idea for you.

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What if this isn't the exact backing? So, I'd like the background of the one that she did. So, this would be like front and back. >> And I was thinking of two and then to have our actual logo with this other one on the back, but like her background >> and front and back. Um, but I have like

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the pricing of what four I was thinking like two and two would be good um would be >> if you want to review and I can pass it down. But I haven't gotten the official art from her and that's still the goal to use the actual logo art. >> Yeah. And this is specifically for the

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use with the art card or for other things as well >> to draw anything that we're doing as the commission to draw people to it instead of doing balloons or streamers. >> Beautiful. I love it. Um, so right now they're having a sale. This was build assigned that I had done, but it would

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be $935 for four and that's with bases and stakes. So we could, if we're not always on the grass, >> pass them out >> with weighted bases. So it's just an idea. If we wanted to look, I could pass out the idea. >> I love that idea.

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>> Imp. >> Just some background on this. We had our uh art cart at the music in the parks in middle of July some some whenever that was and currently so I we can talk about this when we get to art cart but the art

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cart right now looks like it's a police vehicle or something so it was hard to get people's attention uh to come over there and there there were all these kids around but I don't think anybody knew what that was and I was literally going around grabbing kids. No, I didn't grab them. >> No, don't say that.

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>> Shook them. Uh and I said, "Hey, you want to do an art project?" You know, so people are like, "What? What's going on?" So I think um just to we we need to draw more attention to the art cart. Uh and then for for other things as well. Great idea. >> Yeah, that is great because that was a

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similar expense I had Tom was, you know, once they were there was great, but getting them there. So >> right, >> this is fantastic. >> That's 10 foot. >> So to catch the eye from far away, too. Uh, we could do smaller if we need to like cut the cost or something, but

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>> yeah. >> Did we talk about maybe next year like getting it wrapped or something? >> Yeah, >> cuz I did. I actually showed up to big truck night. Everyone had left by then. But yeah, it was like I didn't even know it was our cart. It was just

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>> blue box, dark blue. Mind you, >> I think we need to have more discussion about what we want to do with it. And we I mean we could wrap the whole thing just like we do with thing, but >> but um we can discuss.

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>> Um well, we'll we'll pick that back up when we get to art card. Anything else on that though, Laura? >> Well, yeah. I don't know how you'd want me to proceed. I mean, I'd still like to get the official art from Lisa Richie and then I could send to all for approval or do we need to prevote or >> I

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>> I don't know to spend the money. Um, >> I mean, we've got $900 still in our branding and communication. >> Yeah. If you guys want to like vote to um what's the like to uh pre-approve expending like that exact number for

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these things. Um that's like that's how we could proceed with this. So, >> it feels like that would be a good thing to have for Autumn Arts Festival, right? >> For sure. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if we can get them that soon. >> The turnaround is supposed to be fast. Okay. >> Okay. Well, I'll make a motion, but then

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we would just But we're not going to have We'll have one more meeting before the Autumn Arts Festival, but we don't want to wait till then to vote because we wouldn't be able to get them that fast, I don't think. >> So, you said we could prevote. >> Yes. So, you would have to make a motion

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to um is it going to be So, it's probably going to be that 9:35 then. Okay. Yeah. So, just make a motion, I guess, to vote for that using the branding and communications budget. Um and then I think the um whichever one there's going to be like $30 some

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dollars of overflow um if that's in utility box murals. Um but whichever one just clear direction for me at least. >> So and then we could so we could get final designs like Laura can work on

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that with Lisa and then we could get those via email or something and then just how do we >> approve that? and then just approve that or how do we so if we want to try and get these ordered before our next meeting is the question. >> I think right now just the idea of the feather flags and the money are like

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kind of the biggest thing. So I think that's all that we need if the commission's on board with that when it comes to designs. I think >> but I love the design approach. >> Yeah, >> it's already been kind of you guys have an idea. It's not going to be anything crazy. >> It's derived from a design we've used.

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>> Yes. So, I don't see that it would be such a big of a hurdle. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So, I I move I'll make a motion to uh use up to $1,000 out of the commission's budget to proceed with the four signs as Laura has laid out here.

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>> And and I would suggest maybe just clarifying all of branding and communications budget and then out of the murals budget just to give >> all of the branding and communication and with any overflow coming out of the um mural budget. >> Still second. >> Okay. Okay. All in favor say I. I.

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>> Opposed. >> All right. Good work, Laura. >> Yay. >> Uh, okay. Mural committee Carrie Tom Sharon. >> I'll go first. >> Okay. >> All right. So, I am still working on the

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45th parallel. I have gotten a bid for a rock, an actual natural rock, and he laid it out with it saying 45th parallel. You're halfway between the equator and

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the North Pole. I just said that would be the most we'd ever put on it. I personally prefer just to say 45th parallel, >> but um I wanted to when I got the bid to have some leeway down rather than everybody decide like no Sharon, you

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should say more and then >> No, that's good. >> Not enough. >> Um I'm still waiting for a bid from another company that makes uh manufactured stone and I can describe to you what that would be like. It would be like the

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signage you would see at the entrance, particularly in Woodbury to neighborhoods >> or at a golf course. They tend to be yellowish in color. They have black writing. Sometimes they'll have a logo too in black on it. So, those are a little bit more

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moldable because they don't exist. But the park has said that they would prefer a actual rock is the message that came back to me that an actual stone, which makes sense to me because it's a

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nature preserve, but I wanted to have more than one idea since we're dealing with government funds that yes, I did look into something else. Uh, I'll also let you know it is very difficult to find somebody who will deliver a rock and make it so that you can adhere a

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plaque to it or say something on it like a real rock. They will do it to you know make a patio or something like that. But when you say like, "No, I want like a monument." And they're like, "No, we don't." There was this one guy who

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actually does do it. And um and he said, uh for them, all of the writing and everything, it would be $1,700. And I have not gotten a a bid yet for well it really wouldn't be a bid because

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we use gopher signs and they're the one of the two names that I received that would be able to create a signage. The problem is is I need to create the actual sign in a software where they can look at it and say okay instead of my

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just using my words. >> And so I I'm just kind of looking at these as two separate projects. So, it would be $1,700 to go with a real rock and about $2,000, I am guessing, just from the conversations I've had to go

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with a synthetic rock if people think it would be a better idea to have something that would be moldable. I was also supposed to get feedback from the volunteers of Southwood Nature Preserve. We have reached out to them and I have

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not heard anything back. I did receive um information back from Lloyd from the park commission today and asking me that offering me kind of two possibilities of we could just go ahead or we could give

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them until the 15th to respond. I don't know how everybody else feels about it, but I feel like we're burning daylight here on a project I've been working on since March. I I think it's pretty well settled that um the rock part is settled. It's the

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signage that I feel like is the more important part that would really needs to go back and have them say like >> yeah, we this sign would be okay. That that's my personal opinion. So that is where I am. If you guys want to agree to go ahead with Iraq, we can take a vote

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on that tonight, too. And it's like I said, I think I I believe I sent it to you the last Yeah, last night at like 8:30 p.m. So, you know what it looks like. And it was within the email that it is $1,700. >> I love it.

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>> I like the real rock idea. >> I do. And I I think that's probably even though I haven't gotten that other bid back, I think >> um >> that is what they asked for. And I don't want to I I we've seem to have a working relationship right now and I don't want

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to go against it. >> Yeah. >> But if you guys felt like >> No, maybe if we made something else that we could do more with, >> then I would try to convince them that that was a better idea. >> Yeah, I like it. And I think we've you've done your due diligence with the

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volunteers. I don't think you have to wait anymore. You did outreach. No one responded. We're moving forward. >> Okay. So I and I think it would be best to just say 45th parallel, not too much wording. I obviously didn't want to just do 45th because that's how we refer to

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the presidents since right >> 43rd to tell you know the two Bush um father and son parts they're and then since that it seems like we are calling them by their numbers. >> So that well no that would be too confusing. So, I'm I'm sorry. Where did

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Did you Is there a pictures or a mockup of what it will be said on the rock? >> Is it the one that you sent me? This >> typed over it. So, uh >> it's 45th parallel, halfway between the equator and the North Pole. >> Right. Oh,

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>> and so I wanted to take the halfway between the equator and north pole off and have it just say 45th parallel >> and put that halfway on the information sign. >> Yeah. >> How big is >> it would be between two and a half and

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three and 1/2 ft wide. And then I have to leave it up to him as the artist since he's the one doing this to determine the height >> based on our appropriate font for visual purposes. Okay. So big enough that somebody would see it that they wouldn't bike into it, you know.

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>> It's not like a boulder. I was thinking like thousands of pounds. >> It is a boulder. It It would weigh many hundreds of pounds. He said, >> "Okay, >> so it'd be like, you know, huge like that. You wouldn't be able to roll it." >> Yeah. Oh god. >> No one can walk away with it.

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>> Yeah. Nobody can roll it away. >> That's our rock. Okay. >> Sharon, you mentioned a sign to go with it. Does the 1700 include a sign next to it? That's additional. >> That's a se that's a separate project that would be done with gopher signs to

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create um what would you call it? Informational sign, educational sign >> because hilariously I also reached out to go for signs because they are the only group I could find that actually do outdoor parks appropriate without

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sublimating after 5 to seven years signage. >> Right. So, the one that I was looking at was similar to the one that's outside the snowman, and that's roughly $1,000. >> Okay. >> So, I was looking at that for the um Tiffany Tiffany Cannon mural and the uh

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Tyler whatever mural >> so we could have those signs. So, if we did one, we could just do a third one for >> The Rock. It would be a little bit bigger. It's a little more informative as actual actual education piece. It was all stuff that I read back in June.

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explaining. >> Yeah. >> Because not necessarily everybody had Mr. Kenote at John Glenn. >> I love it. >> So that that's where that is. I mean I there's not much more I can uh really do

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on it. >> Um just for my clarity. So, the rock, does the rock just say 45th parallel or is it okay? And then there'll be a sign next to it that has the rest of the wording on it if you're >> right. I think I I've Yeah, I sent it to

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you back in probably April or or May >> where is I like this is the sign. Let I can pull it up so we just so everybody knows what is going on here.

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I apologize because I did not break glasses. >> Hey Sharon, >> I think I missed this part. Is the Is the verbiage going to be painted like chiseled or >> Oh, how he does it is it's chiseled in

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>> and then it's painted black so that it stands out from the rock. >> So that it's it's a dual process. Okay. Okay. So, it's not just like painting on a rock like you do when you graduate, >> but like a tomb like a tombstone. It'll be >> tombstone. >> And then does the artist then have the

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autonomy to pick um like font style or are you helping with that? >> Um I already told him that I wanted to do a sand surf. Okay. type typography and he picked a basic one a very a very

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basic common sense serif because that'll be the easiest to read >> because that's you know what we use now. So what the wording would say on the interpretive sign is at this location you stand on the 45th parallel north one of the major circles

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of latitude used in geography and navigation. North St. Paul is part of a small group of cities worldwide that lies precisely halfway between the equator and the north pole. From this point, both the equator and the north pole are approximately 3,17

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miles away. The map of Minnesota shows where the 45th parallel north crosses our state. And the world map beside it shows how this latitude sits halfway between the equator and the north pole. And so below that is like a cutout of

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the state of Minnesota with a line going across. And then on the right side it'll just be a circle. It'll have the latitudes going across at the zero 45 degrees north, 45 degrees south, north

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and south pole with the 45 degree one obviously highlighted because that's the whole point we're trying to educate the community about. >> So >> brilliant. trying to make it >> educa fully educational. >> If we're going to do it, let's go all

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the way. Let's not have something that people are wondering afterwards. Well, >> why did they do this? >> Right. >> And credit the artist and credit us for putting it in there. >> I'm the artist >> and credit you and the guy who's chiseling it. Okay. And us.

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>> Okay. And so if you want to say it on the sign, it would be below that. It would be like created by Brian blah blah blah of Stone and Steel Designs. >> Yep. >> The Rock. >> And then below that, North St. Paul Arts

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Commission 2026. >> Yep. >> I love it. Beautiful. Awesome. >> Good work, Sharon. >> Do we need do we need a pre premotion to spend that then? the 1,700

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>> the 1,700 because that is a set fee that we know and I can get that in motion right away >> and figure out how I get to him and we get to the rock and get it all done. And my understanding is that and I I can

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pull up the email again that that um that that is the entire cost because I said he's like well do you guys want turnkey? And I'm like, "Yeah, but let me pull it up and I will tell you what it says so that it's not like

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any um secret Okay, I can just say uh he goes there are quite a bit more characters than what we talked about on the phone. Cost on the engraving and color fill for this would be 95060. For us to find and procure a nice faced

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boulder in the 2 and 12 to three foot size would be about 200. If we engrave at our Plymouth yard, there would be no trip fee of $75. if we were to do the project turnkey with delivery and setting the boulder, you would be close to $1,700.

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>> Beautiful. >> And I'm like, yeah, >> yeah, >> yeah, >> we don't want to go out there and try to set a boulder on a Saturday. >> Convince them. >> That's fine. I've got a Camry. I'll stop by and pick it up. I should be sitting.

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>> Put it in the trunk. >> So, that's what it says in the email I received. So it is I should forward that to you so you have it for the record. >> Yes. And I think um once the vote is kind of taken, we're all good with the um the boulder with the 1700. I think at

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that point if you could yeah forward me his information then I can kind of get the process and in motion to unless is if there's anything else that you need to work out with him design-wise or >> um I will you know I will call him and the and the font is Franklin Gothic

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>> which I'm particularly fond of >> um I will call him and talk to him and let him know that the contract you know how the contract process this thing is going to work through you. And the only thing I will need to know from him is if

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I need to physically drive out there with him to so I can see this boulder before it is, you know, carved up and and said, "You guys bought it." And we're like, "No." >> Gotcha. >> Okay, that that works. Yeah. Just move

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me in when you guys are ready. >> Yep. >> Okay. I I will find out what the whole process is and I will write it down and email it to you. I'm getting good about my emails at >> Oh, yes. I appreciate it. >> Can I ask one question quick? I know

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you've talked to I know you said you talked to Lloyd from the parks commission. >> Yes. >> So, how much involvement have they had? I I mean, not that they need to approve this or anything, but I just don't want this to like come because it is going into a park. I just don't want it to come as like a surprise to them. So I'm assuming Lloyd has communicated with

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them on that side of things. >> It was presented by Sarah earlier. Okay. >> And also they talked about it again and it was brought back to my attention that uh cuz I had not picked a rock. They had picked something granite and um they

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wanted a rock something that was natural to communicate back to me. And Jordan can tell you more about what the process has been because I believe you've been in communication with Sarah. >> Yeah. I mean, that was essentially most of it is that I gave her the kind of brief of what we were working on. She

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presented that to the commission. They had some feedback and I gave it back and now we're here. And yeah, the the boulder is essentially was kind of >> their preference. So, >> and I think we were initially talking in obelisk, which I still am sad that we're not having, but

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>> Well, I was trying to be consistent with the other >> I appreciate you. Um, and I can put you in touch with the Southwood uh volunteers. They just had a baby. So, I think that's maybe why you're not hearing from anyone. But >> the the volunteers are just one person. >> Yeah.

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>> Well, since Kathy Trendle died, there's really nobody to >> Oh, did she? I didn't know that. >> Oh my god. Yeah. >> Keep up. >> Yeah. >> Well, I did I did talk with Lloyd. We've communicated via phone and via email and um

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so that's why I was saying, well, we can at least just go ahead with the rock part. I don't think anybody is going to have any objection, there's one more rock in the park. >> Um, but uh before we proceed with the wording and dealing with gopher signs and all of that, that I really think is

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the bigger factor of what the sign looks like and how it's going to appear. But I think a rock on the side of the trail on the 45th that >> kind of blends just blends right in. but more signage and more educational materials. I would think I would imagine

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they'd want to have a bigger thought. >> They'd want to have some input on it. >> Yeah. What it's going to look like. >> We're talking like roles and responsibilities. I think you know it's your I don't want to say your project, but your project to kind of run and they get to provide input, but they don't

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have the yay or nay, >> right? Uh my bigger concern with as far as the park goes, as far as the signage goes, is what kind of signage appearance do they prefer? Because there's usually multiple options you can choose from.

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>> So what what is it? What's the consistent theme you would like to have happen at that park? >> Would you I could have Sarah email them and just have them give their feedback and I could forward that to you if you'd like or >> Okay. Or maybe once we have something

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mocked up for what the sign would look like, we'd send that to Sarah and have them >> process of putting it in Adobe Illustrator. >> Or if they have any predefined or >> Yeah, maybe if they've got a >> sign that they already have stuff like this, you know,

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>> that's my biggest thought >> then, you know, gives us, you know, expedites this process that much quicker. So >> definitely. >> Okay, great job. So, do we move to move ahead?

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>> You need a vote on this one? >> Yeah, I would say make a motion for um to approve moving forward for the 45th parallel project um with the Bowler with Boulder with the etched in um wording um

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was it? So, the Boulder is just having 45th, right? Parallel on it. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, with the etched in wording of 45th parallel um for a total of $1,700, >> I would like to move moving forward with the 45th parallel natural rock saying

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45th parallel $1,700 from the mural budget. It's like clue. >> I'd like to second. Thanks. >> All in favor? >> I opposed. Motion carries. Good job, Sharon.

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Um, Carrie, you have anything? >> Yeah, I uh, as mentioned, I looked at the sign stuff and it looks like $1,000 each for the the signs that are similar to what's outside the big snowman. So, I'm thinking of those for the murals and we can add one for the rock once that's

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approved with the parks. Um, and then I got the est $10 each for the stickers for the utility boxes. I just I haven't had time to actually sit down and like make a what it would look like. Yeah, >> I'm not Laura. Okay, let's just >> be real. So, that's that's my next

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to-do. >> Are we going to do one of these signs then for all of the murals? So, we would do it for the bathroom building and then also the garage downtown. >> That's what I would like to do. Yeah. >> Okay. >> Is that okay with you?

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>> I The garage one seems a little I don't know like that I like the like a sign seems kind of out of place there for some reason for me. I don't know the there was so much um you know the bathroom billing it it's

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even a little questionable for me there despite the fact that the artist gave such an incredible description of why he chose that for the for the mural there and I think that would be good but I I don't you you just wonder what the um what the shelf life of those murals

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might be that garage I wonder what the shelf life of the garage is. Um but I don't know. Yeah, it see I I you know, maybe it seems like it seems right. I I love it for the rock.

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>> Um for the bathroom building, I I like it. And for the garage, it feels funny to me. H >> well I think it's the cost is what you're saying is the cost is etern I I I do think that it's important that we acknowledge the artists who took their

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time to u make their creativity part of our city and I envision off of her project I'm hoping that this that with the signage and everything that it will relate back somehow or another to the city website so people who come to North

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St. Paul can go on an art tour since we've invested in all of these utility boxes and everything. And then I think it's important that it says, "Hey, you know, Gino did that snowman out in front of the, you know, city hall and he also

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did the, you know, like his art, he also did the utility box in the veterans park." and Tiffany. Yes, she stood in an alley in the freezing cold and she painted our garage and we value art so much that we painted a garage.

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>> This the signs for the murals. These are like freestanding signs. >> Yeah. Yeah. I can find the picture I sent to the >> cuz I just wonder what wonder if what if it were even like just um >> a plaque >> ra a plaque more than you know something that was affixed to the building rather

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than um a freestanding thing. Whereas I like the freestanding thing for the rock. Of course, it would have to be, I think. But >> yeah, I >> But it also makes sense in >> I'm sorry, Tom. Uh, she just she she was so thorough in her painting. You know what I mean? Like there's nothing >> Uhhuh.

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>> Like there's no I wouldn't want to cover up what she's done. You know what I mean? >> Space in the artwork as she >> Yeah. >> she followed her image from corner to corner. >> Um entire >> I mean I can look at that again and see. >> Or maybe maybe the size of the sign. I don't know. Yeah. I mean,

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>> yeah. >> Um I'll see if I can find it. I'm sorry. >> Are you thinking of, you know, I of those signs that um they're like on not that big of a pole like this and they're usually about this big. They're just not really huge. >> Yeah.

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>> They're just little things sticking up out of the ground. You'll see those in >> Oh, like a museum. >> Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. >> You'll see them like in outdoor sculpture gardens and things like that. >> Maybe that would be better. >> Yeah. I would be more supportive of something like that. >> Have you ever um when your project that

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you're working on thought about adding like a QR code? Because I love Sharon's idea of like eventually doing like an art block thing and like people are very into QR codes as far as like I don't know how much it would take to add a page to the city's website, but they do a QR code. We could do a bio of the

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artist. I think that was the plan for the utility boxes is that those are just QR codes that are going to be on the sides of the utility boxes >> and then it'll lead back to the website for the city hopefully eventually so that we can have a

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>> because we're starting to acquire a lot of interesting pieces in the city and it would be nice to guide people through them and say, >> "Yeah, >> yeah, you you happen to see that one snowman? Well, guess what? >> Brothers. Yeah, I like that idea, Sharon, of just

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like maybe for the murals it could be independent freestanding if it were like smaller in size and then the rock I kind of in my mind I see something I think more aligned with what you're originally saying Carrie where it's >> I I see foresee something like this that

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you would see at the historical marker or something like that. >> Okay, I'll look and see if they've got other options. >> Anything else? >> I think that's it for me. Okay, >> thank you. >> Um, I had I don't know if anyone got a chance to check their email today, but I did send some information about light

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pole banners, and I just thought it might be helpful for us to just have a conversation as a whole group on this one because, um, this is something these would be downtown um, as well as on Margaret Street here. Um, so I put in a

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project proposal for this. So, these um the if you're familiar with these light pole banners that we have right now, I don't know how old these are. I did uh connect with Sue Springborn uh from the historical uh society and she just knows

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everything about North St. Paul. Um she said those kind of came into being from uh some former business owners uh downtown North St. Paul that worked with I don't know who it was, but it wasn't the historical society that did those. Um, but they I think they worked to get those made with the city.

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Um, and they've so they've been here for a while that you can see that they're starting to fade. Um, they're they're they're getting old and I think it's just time for a refresh. I think it was a great idea that they did that before. Um uh I I uh I have spoken with the city

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manager about this uh recently because we actually we spoke about it as a council when I was on council which is now getting to be you know six years ago since I was last there. So um so it's been in discussion for a long time and

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there and the uh uh the council then and the city manager now are are open to this idea. Um, my thinking was that we could talk about this as a full arts commission and just see what the thoughts are on this. I did try and send out some examples. I

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mean, you see these things everywhere, right, in in all sorts of towns. Um my approach to this, my desire anyway is that this would be something, you know, much different than what we have had in that they would be

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uh highly colorful um in contrast to the black and white signs that we have now. Um and that they would be kind of more design or art for the art's sake and not necessarily referencing anything about the city. They could, but it doesn't

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have to be. So, right now, you know, I I drove around town and took pictures of a bunch of them, and there's another document that was in the email. I think there are at least seven designs that I found. >> I think some are missing now, aren't they? >> Could be. >> I feel like there used to be more like

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was it like 20 years ago or 15 years ago? >> Yeah. I don't I'm not sure. And I >> a good piece. They've been up there. >> So, yeah. So, I I think one of the things that remains to be done is figure out how many of them are there and where exactly are they all. Um, but I'm when I

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asked for estimates, I reached out to four different printers that do this kind of work and I only got uh I only got engagement from one. Um, but that one I I estimated the size of these things to be like 18 by 32 in. I have no

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idea if that's right because when you're down on the ground it looks smaller so they could be much bigger. Um and I estimated about 30 of these things. Um and the estimate for that came back to at 1350. So it it's not a big money project. Um but I think it's something

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that could go a long way to just kind of give a little bit more visual pop into the downtown areas. Um especially if we go with something that's more colorful. And I think we can, but I we're wide open and I I think

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we can take the time to talk through uh what do people like? What would you like to see? What should we do? Um I have some examples here that I put from from other uh cities. I think I you know I

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think you just nailed it with these Laura the designs for the flags. I'm like that's exactly the type of thing that I was thinking about but I didn't think about that. Um, but it just maybe it's even so and I I had happened to text Sharon and and Carrie a picture as

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I was walking into work the other day downtown Minneapolis, the United Way. I'm like, look it, they have colorful banners and they don't really say anything except for at the bottom it says United Way really small. >> And Sharon pointed out and she just said, "Yeah, well they just took their

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logo and kind of zoomed in and did different shots of that which is a lot like what you have there, Laura." And and I'm like, why not? Why not that? You know, it because it's color, there's an interesting design to it. It's it's more

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about being decoration. Um there's so many of these things out there like and the ones that I think are, you know, almost it's almost kind of comical some of them because it's like I don't think all of them need to say

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North St. Paul on them because I think people know when they're in North St. Paul um or it doesn't need to say downtown >> um or whatever, you know. But I I I I but I'm totally open. I I I think

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celebrating that the fact of that we have parks and lakes and things like that is cool. And >> um you know downtown I'm sure there are a lot of people that come to the car show that don't know we have two lakes in North St. Paul. We can

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call Casey a lake. We we call it Casey Lake. >> And there's also a pond at the south. >> Yeah. Even though Casey Lake, it looks like you could walk across it right now because it's so full of vegetation. But but nevertheless, um so that's kind of what I'm thinking. And I I was hoping to just take a a few minutes tonight to

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just kind of open this up to get thoughts from from all of you and see what would you like to see or what do you think would be good as a refresh with these banners. >> I really love that when I looked at the examples you said, the first thing that stuck out for me was color. So, I love

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that you said color and art because I really think that that's a great way to, you know, bring more art downtown but in a functional design kind of way. So, I'm definitely on board with where you're going with that. I really liked um on like the second page the um down

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>> this one >> that one I like the one where it's like very artistic, very colorful, but there are like it's almost like Easter eggs of things that are about the city like >> you know like we could put like a like a snowman outline on one and then

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just do other things too. But it's just like I like the idea of like having it bright and colorful and still we can like center it around things that are around North St. Paul. >> I might have put it in my proposal that there will be no flipping snowman. >> I don't I can't remember if I put that.

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>> Never mind. Scratch that from the record. No, >> I'm not I'm not entirely opposed to it. But I I'm just like, >> okay, we got the snowman thing covered. >> Not the fault maners. You've lived here so long. You're sick of snowies. I don't know. So many pieces, but I carry it. Some

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botanics. >> Um I think it's an exciting idea. Um I my only concern is that we don't pick things that are too busy because people are still driving through. We're still >> walking around tons of traffic. So >> yeah. >> And that's been kind of a criticism of

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the current ones, >> you know? It's like what what is it? >> Yeah. Not too intricate. like you can see the whatever detail from afar. >> But I say avoiding words is best because words make people stop and look. I mean

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I've tried to read some of the >> oh man >> the banners that we have right now. Some of them have words and it's >> it's so far you're so far from it. I think just making an impression artistic impression is probably a better way to go.

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>> We do I guess you know one of the is like a picture with big word if you're doing merge to a big word. >> Well, yeah. Well, one word >> Casey or something, >> right? >> Sorry. >> Yeah. No, that's I'm agreeing with you.

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One word is fine, but these entire ode to North St. Paul is just a little much. Well, so if you think about that as an example, you could So I think these the current ones that's like a series of like six or

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seven designs that then there's like a few of each of them, right? So you could have some I I like what you picked up on there, Eliza, where it's like it could be very colorful but just kind of simple design and then at the bottom it says Casey Lake and in the bottom it says

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Silver Lake and it's a different one. And at the bottom it says um the gateway trail. In the bottom of another one it said, you know, something so calling out kind of North St. Paul. Um >> I I really like that >> things or something like that.

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>> Um I I like that concept. It makes me think of the that one artist who did the series of paintings around Minnesota and like is the what do you call it? the um tower the light

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is it called >> the flash >> lighthouse. Yes, thank you. At Lake Superior is a is one of the more famous one that artist did. >> They did like the lighthouse, they did the grain belt brewery and they had a very distinctive almost like an art deco style.

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>> Yeah. >> And you see them all all over in all the different gift shops. And um to find someone who has a graphicy style like that who could take landmarks

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and make them identifiable with a few strokes of color >> that this is what makes the stand out or that's and snowy. It will have to be on one. >> Yo, I was just saying >> take a turn at the snowy and you're

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right in Norm. I really like that idea though, like even the Silver Lake um Silver Slide and like the things that we have historically that we keep um because of that charm and that >> history. >> Even if it had like one could just say

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car show, couldn't it? Or like and have something related to that. I mean, if you thought enough different themes about North St. Paul and then had very I agree very unified artistic approach to the uh to the art.

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>> Um but colorful real simple design and then at the bottom you're just calling out one certain thing. >> Yeah. Very graphic in a type art. So that >> you can your mind fills it in in a glance not literal. >> So like these ones. So this is these are

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the ones that Eliza called out. >> Oh yes. Very bright. Yeah, the graphics, >> bright, colorful, simple, you know, you can see pretty easily. >> Yes. >> I also like this one. That one that you have right there, the welcome. >> Uhhuh.

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>> Um I love that too. And doing welcome in different >> languages would be good. You know, kind of hit hit on our culture piece of all the different types of people that are in North St. Paul. I I read >> that would actually be really cool to like look at a census and see the different languages that people talk

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here and like do one in different languages our population. >> Yeah. I can't remember what I was reading, but it was the breakdown of the the population of North St. Paul and it was incredible just the the variety of people that are here. >> Oh, I love that idea. That's great.

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>> Oh, and look at this one. Actually, I didn't even notice this until now, but it has a windmill on it, too. >> Oh, wow. It could be north. >> We could take that one. >> Could be the north. >> Jordan, quick question. Like public works wise, how often currently do they

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change those out? Do you know? >> So, I think the only times So, they're actually changed out um by the electric department. Um and I believe just once a year when they do the holiday decorations, like I think they do wreaths. Um, so I think that's one of

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the things when looking into vendors is I'm sure the examples that you showed, a lot of them look like they were installed in the same way. It's just like a banner >> and you slide it on um >> two little posts on the light pole and that's kind of what it looks like. Ours are. So they're pretty easy it seems

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like to kind of remove and do that. But yeah, so once a year essentially >> this Yeah, the sign company is they can also do the installation too. Cool. >> If needed. >> Yeah. Yeah. I was just curious because it depends on what we're thinking of like how often we would want to change

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them based on like how many designs we want. So I was just curious. >> Yeah, that's I was wondering about that too because like some of the designs that you showed like one has you know hello spring and you know three. So you think about okay these are more like

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Fourth of July and these are more spring and these are more winter. So >> you know would we do like 15 and then 15 for different seasons or just be 30 or >> I mean >> it's an yeah I thought about that as well and that's part of why I had some of these on here because it's like well

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you could do like two different sets you know but I I don't know what people's thoughts are about that but >> I think if you do seasonal then you know you are creating a lot of work for the electrical and then maybe you just want to pair down the design so instead of

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eight designs maybe you do four designs and oh sorry and then you know maybe that makes it for them to change them out season only. >> Yeah, >> I guess I am more in favor of a perpetual design and it's only changed out when the signs are traditionally

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changed out in North St. Paul without >> so then we don't have to follow any type of particular themes particularly if we're looking at highlights of locations throughout the city >> that's perpetual. we wouldn't have to remove it because it's summer or fall

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>> and then just let the holiday decorations be the one time that the that the main street changes because that's just like I agree Raquel that just sounds like so much extra work and they seem like they're always busy as it is. >> So, I don't think they would appreciate

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having to having us go, "Hey, hurry up. The Fourth of July is coming up." You know, >> it's the third. Is it there yet? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So, I am more in favor of a perpetual design and >> that sort of >> just one large refresh.

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>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And having multiple designs within that perpetual designs of I like Eliza's concept of the different locations and then making it graphically simple and

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colorful. I'm just taking a note of that in my proposal here, too. >> Are we supposed to regularly update our proposals to you? >> Um, if there's like any big changes, that would be probably the most helpful thing. Um, just because if everyone's

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got different projects, they're all changing. It's kind of hard to keep track. But I I have a folder and there are share drives. So, whenever you guys send me something, I throw it in there, put a date on there. So, Okay, cool. >> I've also reached out to the electric

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director to see if he knows how many there are and where they are and like what their exact sizes are. We're not sure if you'll know, but that was our best guess. So, >> nice. Thank you. >> Great. >> Okay, great. Thank you. Um so I guess then the question is um

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uh we can continue to discuss and I can look into but um you know how to go about procuring these designs um and if we were to do a call for artists for this or if there's another

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way to go about this to simplify >> I a simplified way would be many graphic designers they just have their portfolio online and you could look and see if there is a Minnesota or local artist

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that has that kind of um minimalist colorful design that you're looking for. Yeah, >> I think that would be probably a faster way is to find a couple of artists that >> that's not an unusual design currently amongst graphic designers and

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>> you find them, bring them back, meaning their their portfolio is online and then we could have a review that way as opposed to um >> going having Jordan field a bunch of people and then getting where a lot of

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the designs have nothing to do with literally what you asked for. >> Yeah. >> Because we weren't able either we weren't able to articulate it in the appropriate manner or it was not interpreted as we intended and then we end up with like one person to choose from. >> Yeah. More of a work for hire I think

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would be the way to go for this. >> Okay. I'm going to ask everybody to rattle it off right now. If you could think of what would be things that we would want to have on the banner. So different themes like Casey Lake, Silver Lake, what else would we have? >> Gateway Trail. >> Yes.

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Snowy, I'm I'm here for you, man. I'm here for you. >> Harsh show North High. >> Okay. I miss I missed one case at Gateway Trail. >> I think the windmill would be cool. >> Yeah, windmill.

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>> There's a windmill. >> I was going to say the same thing, but I was like, I'm not going to be the new kid. >> Oh, the the uh >> Oh, wait. I remember. >> What building is that? >> Public works. public works. Yeah, I can never remember the name. Public works. >> Cutesy wind. >> Okay,

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>> I was thinking like little Holland like windmill. I'm just like I'm like >> provides the electricity windmill. >> I would go for that one. >> I was thinking they like Baldwin Wisconsin has one. So >> I got I got Casey Lake, Silver Lake, Car Show, Gateway Trail, North High Polers,

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and Windmill. I got six. >> Um there's the Canon >> and um >> Veterans Park. Mhm. >> Yep. >> All the ode to veterans throughout town. >> Wait, I feel >> down here, too.

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>> Oh, car show. >> No, I didn't get snowy. >> No, >> it's not really. >> Wow. >> I got it. >> Trying to diss me. >> It's not really a monument, but I would the Girl Scout m the scouting museum. Like I don't know, >> you know, I don't know if the building

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or like a logo, but >> I thought it was really cool. >> Copyrights. That might be I'm up to 10 already. >> This is great >> for a three square mile. >> Casey Lake, Silver Lake Car Show, Gateway Trail, North. >> How about um Windmill Canon Veterans

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Park, Car Show, Snowy, Scouting Museum. >> How about um and I don't know if this can be done is Max Diner, >> but like the original Max Diner that we used to go to 40 years ago. >> Yeah. I mean I feel like that's I feel

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like it is a very integral part of town that was the silver skate roller skate and weber bowling alley I possibly like and I'm like open to it for sure but I was thinking like things more that like you can see and go do now

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possibly. I mean, Max is still here, but it's just kind of like I've never heard of a roller skate rink, and now I'm jealous that >> it's a church now. >> Church, never mind. >> A So, >> I guess one thought I have um just would

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be to be careful of promoting any one business. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> Yep. >> So, >> that's why I was saying I'm not sure this can be done since it was revived. >> Um but there's other things. There's the activities that's done like swimming at

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the beach has always been a big thing. Ice skating and um what other things have we done around here? >> I know something >> that we want to celebrate on a banner. >> There's not Oh, >> quite a few.

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>> I think that's Yeah. Like I mean it's a good list to go from. >> Yeah. Mhm. >> Uh some of these things are lend themselves better to a banner than others. >> And um >> 7th Avenue. >> Yeah.

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>> Um >> what about um >> Yeah, there could be like a downtown one maybe. >> Yeah. Rather than pointing out a business, it's like downtown. >> Yeah. And it does not have and because it's because of the style which you're seeking no business would be identified

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right >> even just the word extraordinary >> because that's kind of our slogan is North St. Extraordinary. So many extraordinary. >> I thought it was that small town thing that was on the on our our trailer.

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>> It's a Yeah. What did that say? >> The small town in the big city. That's what it says. That's what it says on >> Can we like reference the three square mile thing? >> Oo. In the 45th parallel. We can't forget about that. Educate the people.

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>> Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think those are a lot of great ideas. >> So many. >> Yeah, that's like 14 I think I have now. Okay, that's perfect. Great. Thank you. So, it'll give us something to >> to chew on if we approach an artist.

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>> Okay. Um All right. Thanks. So, I appreciate that help. That's just helping with nothing to vote on. We're just trying to move that project along. >> Okay. Where am I? >> Oh, I close my thing.

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>> Okay. Uh, art cart. >> Um, just one update. We kind of talked about I know this is Raquel, Carrie, and Ashley, but we had uh we had a art cart. I I already mentioned earlier um in July and we talked about the need to kind of address up the art cart a little bit and

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add uh some flags. And Carrie put together a big order for things that we need. >> I didn't put it together. We brainstormed as we were doing our um >> yes >> crafts and Jordan I got you some decorations for your desk but

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unfortunately the googly eyes fell off. So they're oneeyed snail. This was our snail and then this was our caterpillar we made. So I hope they I hope your desk can use some decorations. >> Okay, good. Perfect. Um, so yeah. So as we were doing the craft, we came up

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with, you know, just everybody was rattling off what they thought we should have. And I we should have gone in there and counted what we had of the inventory we we did have. So we forgot to do that. So that's something to do next time. But um I I went through and found what I

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thought matched what people were talking about and sounds like we did. Um and I did send it to Jordan and she included it in this week's um or this month's packet. So I think what needs to happen next maybe is figuring you said Amazon was the best place to

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find places. Okay. So, um I guess next would be finding these but on Amazon instead and the cost for each and how many we would want because I think ultimately what Jordan would want and please correct me if this is wrong

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would be an actual list of the Amazon link and quantity you would like us to order and then how much that will cost total to come off of our budget. And you don't necessarily have to be like, "Oh, we want to go with 950 like exact number." If you guys tonight want to say

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like, "Let's approve like $500 max right now." Okay. >> Um and then you can just send me the list and >> I'll start getting that order. >> I'm just curious. Um, so how does this work then if we if most of our art cart

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stuff is being done through a hired person? So that's another question, right? Cuz um Tom and Ashley did not have great experiences or great turnout with the music in the parks. So, >> I was going to say just in general, I feel like this year I feel very removed

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from art cart activities because we've hired somebody. >> And so, and again, I keep circling in my head, well, what are we doing with stuff that's in the art cart if we're hiring somebody? >> So, I think we're not hiring someone for the Autumn Arts Festival. So, I think

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that would be um when we would use stuff and we used a lot of stuff on big truck night. We just kind of kept going and pulling more stuff out. So, a lot of fun. >> Felt like we got a lot of stuff used, but I think we should, you know, really think about that is do we want to number one even do music in the parks next year

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if it's not? I mean, the music itself is a big draw. So, do we want to have the art cart there to detract from that or does it supplement that? >> Um, or and then also, do we want to still hire these people? Like I'm not always the most patient with children.

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So having someone else to handle that part for me if I were the volunteer lead for that night, I would really appreciate that. >> Oh, you did a great job. >> Fans and did all kinds of stuff. >> So for since I wasn't able to be at

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those as far as the experience went, was it that you didn't have a good experience with the hired artist or just the turnout wasn't great? It was just the turnout in my case. I thought the artist that was hired was was >> okay >> great. I thought the project was okay.

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Um I um it was just I I think and this is why you know Laura's proposal here for the signs and then if we rewrap the cart. I mean that's all for the purpose of trying to draw more people. I don't think we've always when we've had the art cart at music in the parks that it

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was like a bust and we didn't get kids. We always got kids. >> No. And so I was going to another question was the new cart then at these events. Yeah. >> Okay. Cuz I was going to say when Amanda and I did them, we always had tons of kids. And I think it's because it's the big orange cart,

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>> right? So >> I think that's a big part of it. So I think when we get that wrapped, get the flags, that's going to help draw people in. They just know what it's what it is. >> Okay. That that was my experience, too. And I I don't I didn't come away from it thinking like in my instance the music

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was inside. So I definitely think like if that we know the music is inside maybe not doing it but it wasn't like a no we shouldn't do it at all. I think with better coordination with the city knowing like um Ava knowing that we're there and like pre-sharing that we're going to be there on social medias and

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you know newsletters and stuff. I think we'll get more um I just think we need to have more of an a plan of pre beforehand to kind of draw trap plus the wraps and the signs. >> I know at least last year we were trying to make a better effort with the city

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and Ava to hey let them know we're doing this art project on this day and you know art cart's going to be there. Um >> and so I don't know maybe it got messy this year with hiring people. We had a lot of kids stole on uh big truck night.

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>> I felt like there was a lot of kids. >> If anything, if anything, would rather have the hired person at big truck, >> right? I could see >> and not hire somebody for the music in the park. >> But as far as the communication goes for like, you know, letting people know that we're there and this is the project, you know.

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>> But so how do we let AA know? Like how is she like >> Yeah, >> honestly this year I thought she did know. Um, I think it was just a little bit of a hiccup, miscommunication. We're both pretty new in our roles. I kind of thought she just knew that they we were

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always at the music and the parks, but I guess it was not super clear. So, I think it's just kind of following up with her and just I think trying to at the top of the year knowing >> what events we were going to were going to go be at, which I'm pretty sure we did this year, but just guess being

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pretty clear with her. Um, this is what >> And we can always send a reminder email. >> Yeah, >> cuz everybody's busy. So, >> yes, exactly. >> But no, Tom, I do agree with you of like maybe flip-fpping it of like at big truck night hiring someone and maybe the opposite us doing the ones because I

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think that that was the other thing I thought with the low turnout it was really expensive per kid because of the low turnout. Um, but the artists themselves were fun. like it was I don't know if you had the same person I had but um you know he was really fun to deal you know to to work with and um you

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know really great with the kid you know and they they the craft that he did was like a melted snowman in a bag and it wasn't the most like he had these big jugs of like glue and stuff so it was not very like conductive to you know being quick about it but he was very

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calm and like good with the kids and >> yeah All right. >> Um, yeah. So, I don't know. I I think it's just dressing it up a little bit more, but maybe flipping the >> I like

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>> I I think if especially the big truck night, if we hire somebody and say, "You be there the whole time, and we'll come and we'll have people come and join in shifts to help out a little bit, but let that person be and then we'll just try and see if we can get public works to turn the the horns off of all of the trucks."

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>> Oh, really? Yeah, >> it's a nightmare. >> Once the kids there was like grandmas like encouraging their kids, keep honking the horn. I'm like, >> I'm hearing earplugs. >> Didn't even notice that much. >> Oh, it was non-stop

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>> once it started. >> Get myself in a zone and then I >> Well, you should teach us your way. >> What? That's like that. Did you ever watch that showun? She talks about like the sevenfold fence or something. It's like putting going so deep inside

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yourself that nothing bothers you. That I think about you have to do that when you're at the big truck night. >> Yeah, >> they were honking the horns. So, >> oh my gosh. >> Speaking about the big truck night, who has the key? >> Oh, shoot. I have that. >> Just was I was curious.

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>> I'm not alone giving it to you two months later. Um, would anyone have time to find these supplies on Amazon and do an estimate for Jordan >> from the list? >> Yes. >> Yeah, >> I can do it.

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>> Oh, thank you. That'd be great. Awesome. And, you know, low priority because >> low priority. So, there we go. >> Yeah. Okay. Um, art night. Any updates here? >> No. >> No. Okay. Autumn Arts Festival. So, I don't have updates and I haven't been I

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was expecting to see a lot of emails from Ava at this point, but I haven't anything from you, Jordan, that we need to be aware of. >> Um, the only thing that uh she told me to ask you guys is if anyone would be interested in MCing during the performances at all. >> MCing.

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>> Yeah. Or like doing the >> My wife has been wondering asked >> she was saying like I was told that Yeah, like your wife did. I don't really know where it was going. She just wanted me to like see if anybody was interested to have the commission have a little more involvement. Um

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>> Chris Tom, does Chris want to do it again? >> Well, I think she was a little hurt that she wasn't because she did it the last couple ask her. >> Yeah, you call her and then she'll do it. >> Sounds good. >> I will let you know. >> Yeah. No, I'll let you know about that. But but she might be interested in doing it again or she might be interested in

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not doing it. I don't know. >> Quick question. Going back to the Amazon list, did we need to preapprove a certain amount of money that then you could spend once she got you the list or are we not? >> Yeah, it's just if you wanted it before next month, really, if there's no like real rush, then

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>> we can have like an idea of like if it's going to be >> I mean, we're not going to need any of this stuff >> quickly, right? >> Go ahead and prove it and get it out of the way. >> Do we have something planned for the >> I was going to say >> arts festival? >> Well, you know, I think we did hire someone for that. Did we hire someone for that? We are hiring someone for the

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community craft, but I didn't know if we were doing a separate thing for the art cart. Um, >> we should talk about that, >> which we only have the the tent >> and the art cart itself. That's like the only space that the commission has for like craft kind of stuff. So, they're

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going to be right next to each other, too. Um, >> yeah. >> Maybe since we don't have >> It's downtown. >> Oh my gosh. Okay. Yeah, >> radical idea. Since it's not going to be wrapped, do we skip having the art cart?

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>> And if they were going to be right next to each other anyway, there's not a bunch of space in that parking lot. >> We're hiring somebody. How long is that hired person going to be there? I think it's two people for 4 hours. >> That sounds right. Um,

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>> what is the art scraps >> vendor? I'm okay if we skip the art cart at the >> Yeah, I was gonna say this. >> Give our vendors more space. see what happens. I mean, if we do have another art project going on, I think that makes sense, >> right? And four hours is good. That's a

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good chunk of time. >> Yeah, that's cuz I think we shortened the whole arts festival by an hour this year. >> Six hours now, right? >> Yeah. >> So, what time is it this year? >> I don't know. But I think it's going to end an hour earlier. >> Okay. >> Yeah.

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>> What time is it? No, he's like right in front of me. >> It's 11 till 5. >> And we have the vendor from noon to 4. >> Okay, perfect. >> So, decision made. No art at the autumn

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arts festival. >> Jordan, can you please tell public works so they don't have to drag it out? >> Just let public works know that they don't have to bring the card out. >> Oh, yeah, of course. Yeah. No. So, no art cart. Yeah. At the autoarts. >> Yep.

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>> So, and just a reminder that is Saturday um September 12th. So, we will have one more meeting um which will give us like 10 days prior to that. Um so, but just everybody be sure to uh keep some time

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open on that date to help >> uh to be there as much as you can. >> And so, that's good. Ava's got the uh spreadsheet of volunteers and hours and stuff, right? >> Yeah. I honestly I think she might be like a little behind with the planning.

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So, I prompt her just kind of like where we're at. Um we supposed to let her know we're coming or >> Well, last year we had the whole signup sheet. So, I thought maybe I'm Are we supposed to let >> Are we supposed to sign up for anything? >> Had to do the art. >> We're coming. Tell her we're coming.

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>> That's fine. Well, well, I'll be there. >> Yeah, there might she'll probably reach out or have me um reach out with maybe particular roles that she trusts like the commissioners to do in particular. Um but I will I'll have a conversation with her this week to kind of see where we're at.

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>> Well, I won't have to do my last year role. >> I just need to take >> I was manning the parking lot. Oh god, that was horrible. >> Oh, I know. Yeah. I I just I'll just so everybody knows I'll need to take one break every hour to go to Newman's. Um, but then I'll be back.

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>> Everyone thinks he's joking and he's not. >> By the five four o'clock, I'll be like, "Hey, >> they'll be having the best time." >> All right. >> Um, that will bring a different element though to the whole autumn arts

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festival. >> Anyway, okay. Um, community project. Any update there? >> Okay. Um, I think that covers every boy, we had a lot there's a lot going on right now, everyone. So, thanks for all

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of the hard work and great progress. Um, so Laura, great with the lines and Sharon great with the 45th parallel marker. Um, uh, we are moving forward. Um, anything anybody else want to cover?

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We have, uh, old business. I don't think we have anything. And then reports from staff budget and events calendar. Uh Jordan, do you want to uh set us up for that one? >> Um I have nothing for me, but we have yeah our budget as it currently stands.

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Um minus the things that were approved today. And then we have our um yeah event schedule, which so far we've only got two art nights and Autumn Arts and Ali Jelly. So if I don't know if there was anything planned for Olly Jelly, but

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I think it's just on that. Oh, it's just coloring sheets. >> Okay. >> Yeah. And then I think she might or were we going to order crayons? >> I think we already did. I think I doing that. >> The coloring sheets are for what did you >> Holly Jolly Holly Jolly >> on December

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>> and Fall Round Up Parade is on there. Okay. >> Because we only have about like a thousand markers, right? And then maybe color pencils. >> I don't know. Yeah, we don't have CR that's for sure. >> The marker. Do what was the question? I was just verifying we only have a

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thousand markers and no crayons, right? >> In the in the art cart. >> I wonder if crayons would melt in there. I don't know. >> Yeah, >> one giant would be fine. >> Maybe colored pencils. >> Yeah, there's one there's one crayon now. Multicolored. >> Um

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>> um when does signups begin for the art nights art night people? We should >> I think we settled for it to be a month before the date. Um, so what is the date on here? So the next one is October 15th. So yeah, that would be coming up pretty soon here. Y

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>> Tom, you're doing that one. >> Um, which one? >> October 15th. >> Yes, I'm on I got that. >> Okay, good. >> Art Night at Casey October 15th. >> That's the snowman pillow, right? >> Right. A snowman pillow is on the 15th and I'm not sure what's on November 19th.

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>> Um, I think that was like a fall themed craft. Um, honestly, we're still kind of working through the um contract. I think she had um a medical situation, so we were still working through that. So, >> thanks for doing that, Jordan.

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>> Yeah. >> Okay. Uh where are we? So, I think we are moving on to reports from commissioners. Ashley, you anything? >> Nothing for me. >> Sharon? >> No, I don't have anything. Thank you,

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>> Carrie. >> Nope. Thanks. Liza, >> I'm just checking dates. I feel like my calendar's quite off, but no, I have no updates. >> Okay, Laura, >> no news. >> Raquel, >> happy to be back. >> Happy to be back. We're happy you're back as well. I don't have any updates

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either. >> Uh, Troy, anything from our council leaison? >> Um, no. I don't think there's much going on. >> We've got budgets going on right now, so that's a big point of discussion. >> Yeah. >> Who's filed for mayor?

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>> What? who's filed for mayor. >> Oh, I suppose I can talk about that. So, we do have two candidates running for So, everybody get out and vote. I mean, it's a few months away, but So, we do have two candidates running for mayor. It is uh current mayor Mongi and Chris

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Tenquist is the other candidate. >> Um, and then we have three candidates running for the two council spots. Uh, Jason Nordby is running again. >> Oh, really? Um, and Rachel Lucas from the parks commission is running. Okay.

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>> As well as um Jodie Justice is the other >> I don't know who that is. >> Uh, she lives off of Fifth and Helenish area. >> Um, so yeah, I think September 8th, I

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just heard this Monday, Tuesday. Um, but I believe September 8th is going to be the in here in council chambers is going to be the um League of Women Voters forum where the >> fantastic >> where the um candidates can come in and

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speak. >> So, is is that g is the Legion still going to have their thing that they do? >> That I don't know. >> Okay. >> So, yeah. And I don't know if the one here on September 8th is just going to be for the mayors for the mayor race. Okay. mayoral race. >> Okay.

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>> Um and there's going to be a separate one for I just found this out. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> October 8th is League of Women Voters here at city hall. >> Yes, I believe so. >> I hope it's all the candidates or that they have all of them at the Legion. And I would like it if there was even more

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of a there was an opportunity to say more for the candidates. >> Yeah. >> But >> as a former candidate, I appreciate having it short and sweet. Um but yeah, I get it. >> Or ask questions or something.

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>> Yeah. >> Um but Oh, that's great. >> Um and then National Night Out was last night. >> Yeah. >> So hopefully everybody was able to get out and uh >> definitely not >> talk to your neighbors and >> for that. >> Um I got a the privilege of riding along

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with the fire department again and got to go out and visit six of our neighborhood uh parties. We had 14 total in the in the community. >> Wow. Is that even possible? I love that. >> Nice. >> What was the best thing you ate? >> Um,

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>> I would have to say I there was a party uh put on um I don't want to call anybody out or anything, but there was one that we went to towards the end of our shift or towards the end of our route. They had burgers and they were like big, thick, seasoned, really. They

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were just really good. >> Juicy Lucies. >> All right. I want to go there next year. Yeah. You'll have to let us in on which which open house that is. So we'll uh >> off the record. >> Yeah. Off the record so we can uh go next year.

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>> All right. Anything else, Troy? >> No. >> If not, I'll adjourn the meeting at 7:45 p.m. Thanks everyone. >> Thank you.