Right. 7:01 Monday, November 17th. Call the Norton Finance Committee meeting to order. Um, remotely is Gavin.
And in the room here is Tracy. Oh god. Sandy. Um, Zach, Paul, and myself, Bill. Um, what we are here to do tonight
is to approve a bunch of, uh, minutes that just came to be. So, um, they've just showed up. So, I I
guess we'll just start um actually, Gavin, I don't know what order you're going to see them, but let's start with uh March 24th
and go from there. What? >> Kevin. >> Yes. >> Yep. Yeah. >> Let him in. >> Yep. He should be a participant. Who's the actual host? This gentleman
running it. >> Yes. >> Hey, Kevin. I don't know if >> we didn't hear you, but >> Oh, now we can. Thank you. Um, we're
we're, you know, this is basically to do the minutes. We are starting on March 24th. So I I think uh packets were mailed or or emailed out earlier today. Um,
>> so if you can get to 324. That was a long one. This is old memories here. I wonder what ever happened to the special legislation article we passed >> with the um >> with the with the state. This Yeah.
Face him, buddy. Mr. Chairman >> Zach, >> I'd like to make a motion to approve the minutes of March 24th, 2025. >> Second. I have a motion and a second. Any
further discussion? >> Hearing none. >> Paul, >> yes. >> Zack, >> yes. >> Sandy, >> yes. >> Tracy, >> yes. >> Kevin, >> yes. >> Gavin, >> yes.
>> And I to am a yes. >> Either you can hear it or you can't hear. >> Unanimous. If we can go now to March 17th, 2025. Anybody need more time?
Mr. Chairman, >> wait, wait, wait. I just >> I just asked if anybody needed more time. Nobody answered. >> I looked at these at work. A what? >> No,
>> you would just be an outsider. >> Just want to make sure I'm not familiar with everybody. Thank you. >> Yes. >> What? Just a moment. A long minutes. Holy moly.
I don't see the letter. supposed to be the letter buttons. The units are red that I wanted in the package. >> Have no idea how to find that. >> Um, Bill, I don't think I would have ever made a motion to adjurnn if I was chairing.
Now, you just wanted to get out of here that bad. >> I I don't know who would have, but I'm I'm can say with pretty confidently that that wasn't me. >> How about we just cross it out? >> We have Kevin.
>> Well, technically, do we need >> names? So, someone would need to go back. >> I don't mind going back and looking. >> Really? is can we just >> I was generally making all the motions for you so I'm going to guess that I made the motion I was going to say can
we just can we approve it well yeah as amended >> we >> also the second paragraph on that page the final page >> Mr. Schlaker, the one that Schlaker. >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Um Mike Unun had said included a unit ready a letter and I requested that that
be included as part of the minutes and I just don't see it there. I can ask. Mark if he can >> yeah if he's able to come up with it >> find it but I >> at this point it might be a mute point Sandy I don't know >> looks like the town clerk put these
together by the email chain I saw >> yes maybe could maybe we could ask her I guess >> was that was that >> so I would accept the amendment that I made the motion Sandy because I was making them all for you last year so
>> make sense Just >> it's in this in this these minutes though. >> Two, three, four. Oh, yeah. So, fifth page, Trace found Kevin's last name was Kevin Buddy.
>> Kevin Buddy. >> Yeah. >> Where's Kevin Buddy? Is anybody? Cuz I haven't looked at these. >> He's elf. >> Which page? >> Kevin Buddy. >> Count five pages in. >> That's the other thing. Going forward,
we should request that these pages be numbered. >> Kevin Buddy. Yeah. >> All right. >> Don't push it. You're lucky you got him at all. >> You're right. >> All right. So, I'm going to I'm going to
>> Can we can pass it with those two >> with a with the amendments? >> Yes. >> In his name and amendments. >> So, we can move on and then I'll Yeah. Then I'll amend them. But >> All right, Mr. Chairman. >> Zack. Motion to approve the finance
committee meetings from March 17th, 2025 with the amendments. The two amendments were the Kevin and >> Kevin Bugay misspelling on page >> five. >> Five. >> Motion made to chair by me. >> Motion made for chair by Paul to adjourn
by Paul Schlleker. >> And if we can get the >> we can find them but um at this point it's probably >> in the letter. >> Okay. >> That's referenced on the last page. >> Okay. Motion and a
>> second. Okay. Any further discussion? Hearing none. Paul, >> yes. >> Zach, >> yes. >> Sandy, >> yes. >> Trace, >> yes. >> Kevin,
>> yes. >> Gavin, >> yes. >> I to him a yes. That's unanimous. Everything goes over there. Um, next up would be March 3rd.
Yeah, same thing on that one. That I would change that to Paul making the motion to adjurnn. Is everybody good? Everybody good? Mr. Chairman >> Zack. >> Motion to approve the minutes of March
3rd, 2025 with the amendment of the adjournment from Sandy Allerhead to Paul Schliker. >> Second. I have a motion and a second. Any further discussion
hearing? None. Paul, >> yes. >> Zack, >> yes. Sandy, >> yes. >> Tracy, >> yes. >> Kevin, >> yes. >> Gavin, >> yes.
>> I tr that is unanimous. Uh going to March 10th. assistant just we're splitting his now. I just want to know how we spent $2,320 when we didn't have anybody doing minutes.
>> What do we spend it on? >> Yeah. >> Huh? >> Nobody even brought us coffee. Oh Everybody good? >> Same thing with Yes. >> Same thing with that one. >> Yeah, I know. I already made it. I saw that first.
>> Yeah. >> Mr. Chairman, >> Zach, >> uh motion to approve the minutes from March 10th, 2025 with the correction of the adjournment from Sandy Allerhead to Paul Schliker.
Second. A motion and a second. Any further discussion hearing? None. Paul, >> yes. >> Zack, >> yes. >> Sandy, >> yes. >> Tracy, >> yes.
>> Kevin, >> yes. >> Gavin, >> yes. >> I tuma, yes. Uh, next up 71425. >> I can't believe that must have been a short meeting.
>> That was the one the chief did by himself. Just clip. Mhm. Mr. Chairman >> Zack. >> Motion to approve minutes of July 14th, 2025. >> Second.
>> A motion and a second. Any further discussion? >> No. >> Hearing none. Paul, >> yes. >> Zach, >> uh, yes. >> Sandy, >> yes. >> Tracy, >> yes. >> Kevin, >> yes. >> Gavin,
>> yes. Iuma. Yes. Uh, next up 125 2024 >> joint meeting. >> Uh, okay. Is that what that was?
but no uh no votes taken I don't think >> just an informational session right there were no votes taken >> I I don't even remember having this meeting in the middle Does anybody remember this? >> January 2024.
>> I don't remember ever having a meeting in the middle school. >> Yeah, I think >> I know we had one at the uh across the street, but not the middle school, but Okay. >> Yeah, we did. >> You say so? >> Yeah, we did. >> We did. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I think my daughter was on the cover of that. >> You were sitting under one of the leaks. I think that
>> I was I was holding the umbrella for the leak. >> You hold the umbrella? Yeah. It says I was there. I was not there. I guess we still accept them even though there's no business. Who's Mr. Thompson
>> Cody >> that long ago. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Sherry Coleman here from school committee >> and Savis too. He's not on school committee. >> Lord D. >> We'll certainly make sure that we don't let the minutes get behind going
forward. Huh. >> We need to get a minute taker. >> Yeah. >> That's joy. >> I'm surprised we didn't have already have these. Someone has to >> I don't know what we're paying for something to do it. >> But we don't have anybody. >> No.
>> No. >> Mr. Chairman, >> Zack, >> uh motion to approve the joint meeting minutes from January 25th, 2024. >> Second.
Have a motion and a second to approve minutes from January 25th, 2024. Any further discussion? >> I have a question of uh um a technicality or something. Can people that weren't on the meeting vote
on it at this point? Even I don't know if that's allowed. >> It it is allowed. >> Is it allowed to vote on them even if you're >> Yeah, if you can look at the video, >> but they wouldn't Okay. Cuz they wouldn't know though. That's the >> Yeah. >> Otherwise, we wouldn't be able to vote on a lot of these, right? We wouldn't
have the quum. You can abstain if you want or >> I'm just saying that for us to have our quorum there were new members that weren't or at least remember that >> but they can abstain. >> I thought this was you which is Mr. Schliker but that's Nick.
>> So all right thank you. >> Sec you you you >> Yes. >> Yes. >> You can abstain or you can trust the people who are there. Either way, six in favor of it though. >> What? >> You don't need six in >> majority of the quar. >> Majority.
>> So, you made the motion already. Did I say second? You made the second. >> Okay, so we're good to go. >> Yeah, we're good to go. So, >> Paul, >> yes. >> Zack, >> yes. >> Sandy, >> yes. >> Tracy, >> yes. >> Kevin,
>> yes. >> Gavin, >> yes. And I'm going to abstain since I wasn't there. So, all right. Next up would be March 21st,
2024. >> Okay. >> I don't have it. >> Sorry. Which one are you saying? >> It's a one pager uh this >> March or October? >> October 21st. >> Okay. >> Right. October 21st. >> No, it's highlighted March, but there's
no backup for March. I don't have it. >> I don't I have October as the next one in this packet. >> Hold on. Hold on. >> Uh it's it's max mi mixed up, but it's the next one after
Yep. >> So, that should be the next one we look at. >> So, we're at March 21. Is that what we're at? >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, we're skipping this. >> Well, we'll get to it. >> Yeah.
Was a long one, huh? >> I can see. Holy moly. It's a joint meeting. >> Another joint meeting. No selectman at this one though. >> Yeah, there is >> Kevin Schneider. >> Yeah, but it wasn't a joint meeting with
the was it by city not in school committee. No. just to do it. >> I don't know. and select court >> and school committee. Oh, >> it says here >> it was the school committee's meeting and then we joined right finance
committee joint meeting with the school committee and >> yeah they were there this >> select board okay >> so so all right So, okay. Uh, does anybody remember when we had the override vote? Was it last year?
>> Yeah, that's why this talked about >> Yeah. Was it in 24? I thought it was in 23. Was it in 24? >> No, it was our year, right? >> You had that same year. That was Paula's year. >> What do we have for your year? I thought we did.
>> No, but it was the um end of Paul's year. So that's right cuz I started No, >> cuz that's why he had it over last spring. >> Spring. Yeah. And then I started in the fall of 24.
>> Okay. That's why this is talking about whether it was a wish list and and whatnot in there. Like Chief Cla says, I didn't include anything extra. Yeah, cuz Paul is chair here. >> Yeah. The whole school is discussion. >> I remember that. You know, it's
uncomfortable because Sir, >> let's do a Sunday le chair again. Oh boy. Huh. Old memories here. I don't know if it looks good though. It's like reading an old uh novel. Yeah.
>> Your diary here, Paul. >> Mr. Chairman >> Zach >> make a motion to approve the joint meeting minutes for March 21st, 2024 with the amendment of adding uh a joint meeting with the finance committee,
school committee, and select board. >> Second. >> Have a motion and a second. Any further discussion hearing? None. Paul, >> yes. Zach, >> yes. >> Sandy, >> yes. >> Tracy, >> yes.
>> Kevin, >> yes. >> Gavin, >> good man, Gavin. >> And I am a Yes. >> Are we going to October 21st or we going to October 10th?
>> Uh, I have 21st is the next one. >> Okay. I hope so. Yep. If my memory serves me, I believe this was uh just in the in the in the
cafeteria of the uh of the school. I love how they summarize this after much discussion in article 4. That sums it up, huh? >> Oh, can't even go back to recordings because this isn't recorded. >> No. Where was
>> it was after much discussion? Yeah. >> Mr. Chairman, >> Zack, >> I'll make a motion to approve the minutes of October 21st, 2024. >> Second. >> Can I just say they have this twice? >> They have what?
>> She has this motion made by Zack to adjourn and then motion made by Zack to adjurnn at the end. Okay, Mr. Chairman. >> Well, they also have my name spelled correctly and incorrectly throughout. >> Mine, too.
Uh, I guess I'll make a I'll withdraw the previous motion and make a new motion to approve the minutes from October 21st, 2024, striking the duplicates at the bottom of the page of the adjournment and
correcting some spelling. After much discussion, >> you would have thought SP check would have picked that up when they didn't. >> Are you going to second? >> Second. >> Have a motion and a and a second. Any
further discussion? Hearing none. Paul, >> yes. >> Zack, >> yes. >> Sandy, >> yes. >> Tracy, >> yes. Kevin, >> yes. >> Gavin, >> yes.
>> I to him a yes. >> Thank you. >> Another joint meeting. We had this many. >> Hey, we're in the crane room at least. >> Uh minutes of October 10th, 2024. >> Our first debut here.
>> Must have been. Oh boy. This was You have an Asian guy now. >> Look at you. Look at you being really assistant. >> Where's that cord? >> Carry. What? Don't carry.
>> What about What about overtime? >> Over. It's loaded with misspellings. >> Cut. Overtime. Which is there? Oval one. Oval team. >> Do you want to just fix 30? >> There's a bunch of them here. This >> the spelling's all over the place.
>> This I mean, how much do you want to >> Can we Can you just note the spelling? >> Just a yellow to >> the first page. >> Yeah. >> Oh, >> yeah. And it's it's separated. Oh, right here. What word is that?
>> You It's >> carry forward for a future. >> Look at overtime. >> I think that's how overtime over here. >> Overtime. Third line down. >> It's loaded with misspellings.
>> I took care of page one. You can take care of page two. >> I forget it. We'd be here all night with this thing. >> Yeah. Next page. Well, >> right at the top, >> we'll just make emotions with corrections to misspellings, I guess. >> Yeah. And hope hopefully if I can run
this through a spell >> spell check, maybe a lot of like like some reason fat fingers like spacing and department. Nothing that won't change the actual >> no the meaning of the >> the intent.
>> Oh, it's horrible. >> I know. And I would think on page two says Mr. Schlike. There's two Mr. So that should be Nicholas. That was it. >> I thought that came out. >> The whole next page is the same. Should
be Nicholas Schlica. >> I try not to speak at these things, you know. Right, Doc? Sandy made me speak. I believe that all of these here are more of a finance committee discussion
on this page. Yep. I think that next page top paragraph Would you refresh my memory? And this here yes it feels what article goes
three yeses and three nos. It fails. Is that is that true? >> Mhm. >> It is three and three fails. >> You have a majority, right? >> A tie is a loss. >> The tie is a loss. Okay. Thank you. all those minutes. I thought it would have been a late meeting at 9:30.
Did somebody Oh, that's can't be right. >> Because of a soldi joking, but Oh, yeah. Still talking about demolishing the town hall.
Install one set aside for Mr. Chairman, thank a motion to approve the minutes from October 10th uh 2024 with the numerous numerous
uh misspellings throughout. >> Second. I have a motion and a second. Any further discussion hearing? None. Paul, >> yes. >> Zach, >> yes. >> Sandy, >> yes. >> Tracy, >> yes.
>> Kevin, >> yes. >> Gavin, >> I to uh 10 7 20 24 Okay. Okay.
Yeah, that was quick. Mr. Chairman, >> Zack, >> motion to approve the minutes of Monday, October 7th, 2024. >> I have a second. >> Second.
Have a motion and a second. Any further discussion hearing? None. Paul, >> yes. >> Zack, >> yes. >> Sandy, >> yes. >> Tracy, >> yes. >> Kevin, we have a >> Yes. Gavin. >> Yes.
>> I tumor. Yes. >> Do that one. >> I think >> despite my name being spelled wrong. >> I think we already did this one >> twice. I >> think we did that already, did we not? I >> was going to say we had another joint meeting. >> No, we don't. >> So, that's a dup that's a duplicate. This next one. Yep.
>> Well, there's one more at the end here. Let's see what it looks like. >> How about September 29th? That's right. >> Of 24. >> 25.
>> Of 25. Wow. I'm What? Of 25. Yeah, this page here says 24 and this says 25. >> Uh, well, seeing it says town manager Mark Gould, that would be 2025. >> That would be
And March 24 people's packets. We already did that one, too. >> What's that? >> We've already done this one. Let's go back a page. Yeah, >> that is um >> How did we do this one? >> This one March 24th, right?
>> First one that we did. >> The first one. >> Very first one we did. >> Hang on here. Hang on here. So, remember where we September 10? Pass that one first. >> Okay. All right. Yeah. This is uh I went
to the next thing. Oh, you're just you're just so so efficient. >> Uh, Mr. Chairman Zack, >> motion to approve the minutes of September 29th, 2025.
Second, >> can we take these when we're not adjourned ever? Who was the um chair? >> I was going to ask that too. When when did we restructure? >> That's was it that meeting? I think it
was. >> Yeah. >> Well, there's no mention. >> Was that our first meeting? >> I thought so. >> There was no mention of this already. >> Are you sure? Yeah, because that was >> No, we're going back to this one still. There's no adjournment. >> Okay. Didn't we already do this?
>> Where are you going back to >> the the the mod meeting? >> Oh, okay. >> Okay. >> We don't adjourn. So, I I >> It's just It doesn't say who the chair is. Weird. >> I mean, that one's pretty recent. Do we want to ask them to go back and
>> I do believe that you were chair for that meeting. >> So I think we have to add that to it as a um amendment in the um adjournment and I don't know if it's a time for that. >> Who adjourned or do you want to kick the whole thing back?
I'm look it up. Sandy, did you run that meeting or did >> No, it would have been Bill if it was the second one. Now, if it was the first one, I >> Where is the first? Did we vote on the first one? >> No, I don't think we got it. >> But the second one would be
>> So, is this second meeting? >> I'll just push these back. What do I want to do with it? I believe the first meeting was the 15th of September. Potentially I didn't make it.
>> Mhm. >> I thought I was here for you anymore. It said you were out. >> I was. No, I was here for that one. The 15th. It >> says you're here. >> No, I was talking about the 15th. >> The 15th was our first meeting. >> Yeah, the 15th. But we don't Do we have the minutes for that?
>> No. >> Now, that's what's screwing us up a little. So, why don't we table this one until we get the Why don't we table this one until we get the September one? The first one. >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And then we can >> research an adjournment for that this
meeting. >> All right. So that's that. That's all that. >> These are duplicates again. >> All right. So we don't have >> those are duplicates >> enough. >> So that's all of them, right? >> Mhm.
>> That's it. >> To do September 29th, 2025. Um, >> I'm looking for the 15th of September as well
and probably all of 2023. >> So, is there anything else on anybody else's mind before I entertain a motion to adjourn? >> Well, I just had I don't know if you saw my email. I had asked if we'd gotten any updates from school.
>> I have not gotten any updates. >> Okay. So I can >> Okay. Yeah. Can we because we didn't get the June one either. And I I can ask for that, but if you're going to ask for September anyway, then maybe you can ask for June. >> Okay. June's a joint meeting. Just >> No, it's the um the monthly reports that
we get from the schools from Christine. We >> We got one in May that I passed along. I don't think I got one in June. I I searched my email to see if I missed it, but I couldn't find anything. >> And that was supposed to be the like the year end one, which would have been I think the most helpful. >> Um we didn't get that one. And then we didn't get anything. We haven't got
anything. So far yet >> I haven't gotten anything. >> So we should have gone at least September by now if not October. Usually they came in the middle of the month. >> So I'll reach out. >> Okay. >> Um anything else?
>> I I had mentioned in an email to you Bill. I mean should we should we meeting more than this? I mean mid year call these people in and say you know where are you with the schools 6 months in you know halfway through your year. Where are you with a town budget? I mean, I
know we haven't done that in the past, but is that something anyone has any interest of doing? >> So, right now, 100% of the town is under contract negotiations. I believe every union. >> Yeah. So, the teacher is still not under contract. >> I don't think anyone else is either at this point. So,
>> the thing, Zach, I would like to look at is is the just our policy. We have a financial policy, especially now that we have a new town manager. like what you know we have these battles every year about free cash and how to use it and what to use and and it would be nice to have some of that in writing and or at
least review what we have and I think it's still a draft form they were finalized the financial manual >> that's something you can bring up to the town manager >> so is this beginning of January type stuff I'm not
I'm not >> even have the policy I mean, I know there was a draft originally. I'm not sure. >> Yeah, it's on the I think it's on the website. >> Yeah. >> So, >> would you want to try to fit something in before the holidays or right after I don't think so after January maybe? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> We did we did a joint meeting in January
last year, right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. But do we want it to be joint or do we just want to >> Well, I think we want to at some point have like you said an update as to where we're at townwide. But >> I'd like to see, you know, similar to,
you know, maybe department heads come in, you know, literally 10 minutes a piece, give us an update, where they stand on finances, what it's looking like, >> so we don't run into what Whoop Hansen just ran into, and everybody was surprised at the last. >> Oh, yeah. Layoff.
>> Brocked them the year before. >> Yeah. >> Uh, >> okay. >> I don't know. If we could let them know now that, you know, maybe they can be prepared and you can let the town manager know about the financial policy. We want to review that.
>> You want to do January do a joint meeting or just a >> I don't think it needs a joint meeting. >> Do we need the department's heads in or or can it be the town manager reporting us to us on each department? >> Yeah. Him and James would be good, right? >> That's what I'm saying. I think that they would have a good handle on where they're at. James especially. So, two of
them maybe. And then >> and the superintendent of schools because they're kind of separate. >> Yep. Yep. But >> and if the department heads want to be here just in case it's up to them, but I'm thinking that >> I'm sure uh I'm sure uh the fire chief's going to want to be here and the police chief's going to want to be here. They
always they want us to show up. >> So again, that's that's their call. >> But yeah, >> we want an update from departments if they that's the town manager's call if he wants to do it himself or he wants to. So it would >> that's separate from the financial draft
policy you talk about too, you know. So it's >> could we do both at the same meeting though or not? >> I don't know. Or just at least I I I think just at least I would like to know >> where our new town manager is kind of you know what his feelings are on all this and and um
>> so I don't know >> what his priorities are going to be. >> You think that's enough for its own meeting and maybe do it that first and then do the second half of that same meeting? >> Yeah, I think so. Yeah. So, one meeting to do both. >> So, I I would think that's
>> late January. I don't know how long it takes James to close out, you know, a month. So, to get to six months, >> end of January, then sure. >> So, I would hope by the end of January he'd have to say getting close to time
for us to start looking at the >> I would say Martin Luther King days on on the 19th. The following Monday is the 26th. want to set it up for the 26th of January. Let them know now and this way they all motion to adjourn. Second.
>> Have a motion and a second to adjourn. Paul, >> yes. Zack, >> yes. >> Sandy, >> yes. >> Tracy, >> yes. >> Kevin, >> yes. >> Gavin, >> yes. >> I tumor, yes.
7:58. Thank you. Happy holidays. >> Same to you, Bill, and everybody else. >> See you guy everybody in January, unless there's something called beforehand. >> Good night.
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