I'm G call the U February 24th meeting of the finance committee to order um I'll just do I'll just read off the attendance Zach Brandon Bill Tracy Paul um we have Kevin and Gavin and then we have Steve Evans on zo
right want to get started with our financial update okay see I'll share my screen so Steve can see it like is there any reason why in the
future we can't be in the big room so when you share your screen we can see it as well um you will have to be in the big room next week we should try to going forward be there anyways just for the is there a planning board meeting there tonight was tomorrow usually Tuesday oh
jeez all right I just wanted to go over um in your packet you have a couple revenue and expenditure seats you talking to cherry sheet one no um right
put so Madam chair the sound the sound is very faint I can barely hear anybody it Department paging have a microphone that we can bring up here I can hear Zach clear I can't hear
anybody can hear me you don't even need you don't even need the mic me my window exactly just open crack the window a little bit I can't really do much better than that why can you let me in all right can
you see my screen uh Steve can you hear M Steve no I can I can barely hear them I can hear you guys whoever was just speaking I can hear you guys close to looks like must be close to the speaker yes we're close very close to the mic is that as far as that come up here it's
about yes that's it got to speak up Michael all right Steve can you hear me I can barely but you have to yell mik that's on all right I'm G to uh share my screen so there's two uh revenue and
expenditure sheets um I'll just go over the 3% one for now um as you can see if you go to the bottom if we did 3% General government 3% school um would have a deficit of
$691,000 and just to go back to the top so you can see what makes that up we have our base tax levy what page is that on mic um halfway through yeah look at the bottom right for 103
yeah you got that and U our increment which is 1, 210,000 our new growth estimated at 700,000 then you have the proposition two and a half debt exclusion
3,676 482 uh so for a total there of 54 Milli $2,127 Mike can I ask you a question yeah on the um New Growth why was last year almost a million more what was the um I think the Big Driver on that last
year was the new apartments on Mansville L and right now we don't have any large buildings under construction single family homes for the most part um and also if you go down a little
bit you'll see the free cash this estimate that I have here is using 1,500,000 of free cash um and then on the expense side
we do know um some definites um the Bristol County Agricultural and the southeastern regional we have their numbers they both went down uh from last year uh the big thing we don't know yet
under the fixed and shared expenses is the health insurance um that's the Big Driver there right now we've put it in with a 9% increase um but I've seen uh I know that Maya which we don't have but a lot of
towns have Meer they're going up 14.8% this year and I was talking with East and the GIC for the last two or three years has gone up 12% every year so we'll know we should know by Thursday
we have a meeting Thursday the health group so we'll have a good idea on uh our health insurance increase hopefully it's not uh a 9% % hopefully it's a little less but it could be anywhere from 7 to 12 so um they're running those
numbers now and we should have that Thursday and again you got a Consortium there so hopefully you have some bargaining power you got many TS right and believe it or not one of the big discussions we're going to have is on OIC and what's the other one oh
the a bu of right now they account for 17% % of the cost of our Pharmaceuticals so we may not we may drop the coverage for those um and it
will save us 2% on our health insurance but 177% of all our Pharmaceuticals are those two drugs it's crazy all right if I could just go to uh so any plans if you had the 691 deficit
Mike is how to possibly make that up is your we're looking at um right now we're looking at uh our loou seips to see what how they'll come in um right now our
interest is above what we anticipated but obviously that's all driven by the money that we haven't fully paid out on these projects is a big driver with that um building permit fees are coming in
pretty good um but the the big thing is uh the auto excise and that comes in in February so um next month we'll have a better idea um businesses that I know at one time there was one of our biggest
businesses almost did 100% of the trucks in m to avoid excise locally or some kind of way that we can drive that where if they get the business in town they really should be uh that's that's really we we've we've looked at that um it's really hard
toce yeah you have to it's almost impossible to enforce you'd have to get Pro you tried to tie the tips you've given too I don't know if it's so you said you don't have the auto xise even though we all got our bills already
yeah but most it's due in February for the most part right your bill we just got the bills right well I was away but they obviously came last week yeah so uh we won't know until everyone pays that sometime in March we'll have a better idea of uh what we take take it for the
but they don't know what they build out well they know that but you can't count it as cash okay so I won't pay mine then we'll see what happens they W get the interest mik last year we had part of our free cash was
came from the exis um is that was that um money that wasn't anticipated and then do we expect another kind of surplus like that this year yeah um well like let me see last year like 900,000 I think that we got from so the free cash
and 20 I mean free cash motor vehicle X size in 2023 was 3,66 th000 and last year it was 3,571 th000 obviously that's driven you don't know who's going to be buying new cars uh you could have people like me
that go 13 years before they buy a car and then as people buy new cars obviously you get more um I just have up there you know because I mentioned the free cash um and right
now the current balance in free cash is uh 2,1 171 , 281 that 2 2 million 2,171 $281 so obviously the big thing we're
waiting on there is the final snow and ice number um it hasn't it's been a cold winter and there been annoying storms for them you know with the salt and sand we also allocated more money for it last year than we previous have no we
always keep it at 80 I thought we changed that I thought you changed that last year no I talked about it but we haven't we haven't changed it it's the only thing that you can deficit spending um so we've never changed it it's been 880,000 since I started here would have caused more pain last
year sorry well we haven't seen any dep request so you don't know what the pain level is this year yeah and just the other one obviously uh first the first one will be snow and ice we'll see what need for that and then uh we have to
review all our Capital items and see uh what we need so last year Mike free cash was 4 million more than what you're estimating right or what you have in there now that's because you haven't been able to see what the turn backs will be that's all after the fact stuff um and you mention the interest last
that was this free cash the 2,171 281 is what's left of the 6,254 cuz uh I I'll go over later um our stabilization we put a lot in stabilization and
capital um is James have a good candle may be able to give us a good faith estimate knowing that we can't Bank on it but at least get a better idea cuz last year we all kind of felt that there was like a million and change or so Mike there was a sudden surprise that no one
thought was going to be there so yeah I don't I don't know right now maybe later as we get later into the year you can um just uh as I was saying on the stabilization fund right now in our
stabilization fund we have 4,735 1112 so with a 3% budget 5% of that is 473,000 so um we we're pretty good with our
stabilization fund we're above above that by uh you know almost 600 something thousand doll and 5% of the 4% budget would be $ 4,994 122 so our stabilization should be
good obviously uh we'll wait and see in the fall you're not showing any stabilization no coming out of this yeah and our OPB is now uh at 1, 336,000
started that lonely Year back in 2012 ,000 so um we've been going up 5,000 a year and just to remind you um obviously we usually do that in the fall too um
our goal is to get to 200,000 a year and uh after that we wait until the Bristol County pension is all fully vested and then we'd have that money available to increase our OPB uh contribution
in the capital Improvement fund right now is uh $593,000 $223 so um as I said before we'll see what happens with the snow and ice then we'll see how much money we can put in capital and the capital committee has met one with all the Departments and
they'll have to meet again um to review what can actually be funded in the spring how much of that ask is actually like payment number two or payment number three of our list like cuz that's you're stuck with right right yeah I'm
not sure um actually I think we're in pretty good shape as far as Highway paying off a lot of the vehicles and uh I know fire has two vehicles that they um they pling out from it's coming out of ambulance
so do we know what the ambulance number is uh currently in the account yeah um right now in ambulance it's uh 3,363 291 that's before any payments this year yeah um so you get a million it usually
comes out now for your budget that's before payments next year this year out of capital it was $1,424 1800 already came out they started uh in 2024 they had 4
m2000 and earned 78543 in interest then took out that 1, 14248 for those payments how much did we earn an interest in the stabilization account
you have is that the paperwork if you don't have it let me see on the same sheet it says 19,000 no not on not on $4 million that's what it says do the
interest of only 25 or 3 3, 3200 $1 19,830 last year uh FY 24 was 83,000 529 it's odd though CU ambulance Reserve is 4 million and it's 785,000 interest
and then stabilization is if it was 1% Mike it would be it would be $440,000 so are you telling me you're getting we getting half a percent or something on that well we're only halfway through the year I think something's off there but I think some of these look at
that money market is 4% right now correct and and they're earning a lot more on the on the uh ambulance Reserve versus with a with a lesser balance versus the stabilization something 3 to 4% all day just on on money market of most banks now
still correct interest was the big surprise last year like through everybody 4 million and 3.2 million 19 yeah that doesn't that doesn't make any sense if you look at the if you look at the ambulance Reserve versus the
stabilization interest is way off you didn't James explained that last that's that you're looking at that 785,000 that's interest in fees so that's interest
for people that haven't paid their bill plus plus theual account half year they've brought in 700,000 more so in bilding right I thought we talking interest B interest that's what I thought he said too but still it's less than 1% which should be
we should be getting a l better than that all right any other questions on numbers do we have any ideas what the department requests are versus this to see what the
real impact's going to be we we haven't put those in yet I haven't even uh looked at them yet to be honest with you let me just see there's a couple people Ed waiting just the same so M I brought up last time um our
joint meeting the question of whether we could get all of those obviously you just SC on the budgets but whether we can get those all at once okay so we could kind of you know take our time and go through um when we have time as opposed to the weekend before the
meeting and I know that um Steve had asked for and I agree that it'd be easier and better for us to be able to see the line budget for the school just like we do for the town employees and stuff so we can truly see instead of seeing the Middle School principal at 500,000 we know he's not getting that
but that shows staff F and stuff we don't see that and it' be nice to see the line at him and show the principal L this you know so you truly would see what every everyone's getting and where all the money are going Jen Jen explained and Christina explained it wasn't it's not that easy for the system
they have I know we want they did they did bring it they couldn't do it last year it was a short notice thing but it's been a year later right but we did bring it up at the Joint meeting yeah so follow up with that mic and see if uh [Music] program just L what's that I thought
they said that they would do it this year because they had more time definely try it's not as easy as have we got anything from the schools no all right um want me to go over the
article list sure so um on the article list you have that your packet article two is Jack chter 90 that's just standard um article three is recodification of the zoning bylaw so
article three and article 20 is what then we want to have the joint meeting for later um to with the planning board and the select board and you um so what they're doing is taking the they' we've hired a consultant we
had a grant to hire a consultant who an expert in zoning and uh making sure that all our zoning uh bylaws meet the current laws um and uh they'll be
presenting that to you uh tree services is the standard we have every year so that they can bring in large cranes for uh the larger trees can I ask why that needs to be an article what's that why can't that just be under the like uh the
uh highway highway budget yeah as a line item I ask it's been there forever I know as long I think we really did it because it's just really an extra um I mean it's not a big number yeah and then uh some of the Articles we
always put in um bylaw amend any bylaw amendments for the um personal bylaws water Enterprise budget sewer Enterprise budget than the operating budget um Capital Improvement appropriation Capital
plan um the next article 11 is uh moved to the special town meeting to be held on the March 19th that's uh more money for the water tank IR Iration system Iration
system um article 12 the CB Street Storage pump is going to be moved to their Capital plan Article 13 the Elm Street improvements uh for water and wastewater
that's going to be the March 19th meeting 11 is uh a pilot that's a placeholder if the assessor uh department has that worked out with the uh developer on uh to get a solar pilot
on 12 Hill Street is The Dump Dump no it's the other one up up closer have one at here right yeah it's the one um up closer to uh South Washington
uh um Mike we're 24 days away from the March 19th special to meeting we haven't had any feedback any input or anything we got in that we'll get to that after these what's the time frame by chter for us to have to we'll get to that after
get close um article 12 uh that's some property that the town owns off of Maple Street um looking to sell that Habitat
for Humanity May um look at uh taking that and building uh affordable homes uh 13 is just uh all the revolving funds that we have every year 14 is something that the town
accountant uh has been asked I think you're off here M go to the next page go to the next page I just had the same question there's a bunch of Struck from the next page sorry there you go yeah now we're um is the revolving funds that we have every
year the next article 14 is to establish and fund uh compensated absence set up a trust fund that's something the Auditors have asked the town accountant to bring forward um that would similar to OPB it would be setting up an account that when
people retire it would would pay their sick leave buyback or any vacation owed them out of that fund so oped retirement and this is house stuff like for the sickly BuyBacks and things M opb's only for health insurance and this is for sickly B this
would be phally buy back so so the way I would understand this correct me if I'm wrong if I'm working for the I'm the janitor here and I get 10 days a sick time and I use five you would put the next five days into this account or
vacation we what we would do is set up this fund um to have money in it so when you retire so you would put random amounts not all the employees got million hours of vacation time they use 500,000 hours
and we're putting the balance in like when James talks to you about this he can tell you if you took all the employees in the town right now what the total cost is if everyone got you know 50% of their sick days PID paid out which would be if the town went out of
business tomorrow and they had to pay all the contracts out which would never happen yeah I mean we've been funding it as we go along and it's like it's hard because um in May um the fight Chief may say I'm got I think I'm gonna have two
people retire and this will be what their payout will be and then you put money in there and then they don't retire uh or he doesn't Paul retired we could a separate F we couldn't we couldn't pay the light bill for a again no he wanted he wanted
it spread out over 20 years no and I thought that was the better way of doing it myself um my accountant agreed but article 15 is uh petition for special legislation to get authorization
to pay a vendor for work performed um they uh weren't able to be paid for and uh culman and paage is working on that um someone didn't follow the procedures to hire them what happened
was uh the cers contract we have had a Paving contractor and then when they hired someone to do Paving in July they didn't realized the contract had switched to a new Paving coock director
on July one and so then they couldn't pay the guy um the next one is for painting of Everett lonard Park um I'm confused yeah is that out a
capital it's it's not a capital item per se because paint's not going to last 10 years and I to be honest with you I don't have the number in front of me that they're looking for so I don't know what it is but I I don't think it met
the $10,000 threshold of capital so would you just put a line item on their budget on the prox budget that's something we can look at um I thought there was a moreal do that to make three hours of conversation $12 a painted
time um 17 that's the MBTA zoning oh that should be fun um I don't know where you all are on that I know where I am um so what happened was uh as you know Milton was um appealing
this in court saying that they shouldn't uh have to do it and the Supreme Court Massachusetts Supreme Court said you have to everyone has to do it you don't have an option doesn't even matter like
before we always felt well if you don't do it you don't get grants um that is the big thing but they're going to sue any town that doesn't do it because they're saying it is a laot so uh well we've already we
were they've already submitted something Paul already submitted something the we're currently in compliance pending this final approval at town meeting I hope they listen to the people they I think it's fallen on you
representative I I think it's he's the representative they haven't listen to anybody but they're not listening that's a sad part that's why it's not going to pass M who's not listen we'll see at the planning board well we chair I don't think they've made their decision yet so
my f no they voted on uh a couple of prop couple but they haven't decided the final one right they're still have to they narrowed it down but they haven't correct but they narrowed it down the ones that weren't any of the public input did they R uh a couple were okay but it yeah I mean I attended a couple
of meetings you know they actually want to put it on land it can actually be developed whereas exact that it can't be touched for the next 50 years you have to worry about it and they asked my opinion and my my opinion was I'm not going to tell you what to do but find the the least desirable
property like f Place yeah the least Desir it's least likely to be developed and go with that and if it has suw or any amenities it should be immediately taken off the list can I ask a question though because I hear that a lot but I also hear people say well don't let anybody say something won't be developed
because everything gets developed so if you make it undesirable and it gets developed then we have a shitty but development then we have a development under under we hold this conversation we're going have a whole joint meeting on this and I'd like to hear from the planning board and what
they have to say um I know they've done a ton of work on this you know whether whether we agree or not I think that's a good discussion for that night all right um article 18 is a article that they have every year for money to collect uh dispose of discarded
items abandoned on the roadway unfortunately people dump mattresses TVs whatever that's the cost of getting rid of those and can't be line it high highway budget Mike we proba do that last year get rid of a lot of the line items here I think
on this one we one reason we always keep it like this so people will see that they cost of it the cost of it that and we do have a transfer station more or less here people can bring everything right there TVs M but you
charge right yeah reasonable the one that n the side of the road I the ones who go to town meeting I always assumed it was people on Facebook doing you know those people who come and pick it up for 50 bucks and then they drop it off down Redmill Road or whatever could be right yeah exactly
it's just like I wish people thought about that if you can't get rid of it then someone else probably can't either uh 19 would be opep funding then stabilization funding then prior year bills and then the last one we won't need if the other article passes setting
up the trust fund andless you have retirements immedi this year no if we set up the trust fund the money will be in there and it will just come out of the trust so all separation expenses would be covered by opep or this account there' be no one time every
year which would make a more stable I would think M give you more stable instead of one year maybe Sky High you know all right [Applause] so next is uh what else you got on there
the special okay so um there's for the special town meeting um it's for those two articles that I mentioned the Elm Street and the water Iration system and uh there'll be a
presentation before the select board this Thursday and before the finance committee next Monday and like on Elum Street a letter has gone out to everyone on that street letting them know
um what's happening gave them those dates the town meeting date the select board date and the finance committee date in case anyone um wants to come and call on your question uh the warrant uh closes
tomorrow and um the special town meeting warrant with recommendations has to be available March 12th so it's just those two so no other departments are putting in what
provoke these to be that much of an emergency m um two reasons one we have a we went out to bid and we have a contract that has been extended twice and we're concerned that if we
wait till May it's going to cost us a year because what the contract is going to say I already have things lined up for this year I'm not I can't do it and we have to have the 3.5 million of the grant money spent by June 2026
so uh we really want to get going um this spring or summer on that job here and it's already been through all the hearings with um the residents and stuff like that there with we have had
uh a number of hearings um and as I said just to let them know we sent a uh a letter out to them uh Friday Thursday or Friday last week to give him a heads up that it's coming back up so the
developer was you guys were in negotiations with the developer is that settled has the negotiated um still going okay so there's no so this is going to come to a vote here
without an agreement with the developer well we'll see what happens by Thursday okay thank came to the select board the other day yeah yeah I think last week we not in agreement though were they
able to do anything mik as far as the like TI fees and all that that was a bigla last year yeah well there won't be any tie-in fees um it's just a matter of what the betterment fees are going to be um
and there will be no tying fees if you pay it like on W Main Street um on West Main Street everyone it was uh 16,000 per dwelling unit uh so they didn't have to pay any tie in fees so if they had to
tie in though the town tied it in or you still have to hire a contract contract there is an indirect fee there to that yeah same as if you had to do your septic system over something else that was mentioned at that select board meeting was that no the town's never gone after anybody for
that for what it's worth you know that's perod like it's seven years you're on a fixed income and you have got a perfectly work working septic and seven years comes around is the town going to sue you that's why they should change that to a pawn field yeah it would be great it would be great if we could
change that law the bylaw but mik did they whatever happen with the um they gave like an option b right of just going directly to7 now whatever um we we'll see if that comes back up um I would I would hate to see
that um because you're going to dig the street up you're going to put in a uh pressure line Force m going to 47 Elm and then you're going to have people along the street putting up with that disruption and then later on their
system's going to fail and they're not going to be able to tie in because that's that's the problem we did here allowing North ctage to do that when's town meeting uh March 19th special one oh that one special for
this you mean town meeting meeting May 19 19 May 19 says on yeah way away what way like my wife really may you
want to know something now so March 19th a Wednesday yes residents all seemed against it do we have numbers on what like it sounded like the uh betterments could be less this time around because
of the developer working with us is do we have any idea um we're having a meeting tomorrow so hopefully we get that ironed out and uh the bids were less okay than they anticipated the project would cost so sweet um that
owered a little too okay I think you're right that's sometimes a frustration is that everything's still a work and play when it's before instead having everything I know night it sounded like the developer wanted it they had something they they could take ownership by like before June
so they're like ready to go if we are but yeah I've been told they have they have to take ownership by June that's what the court gave him a deadline or what happened they just they have to file and try and get
the court to agree to let them take the land again and what about the back taxes has that been negotiated at all um they have to pay the back taxes they can be negotiation on uh principal and interest
but not the back taxes they have what is that to you know um I did bring it with me but it's I believe don't quote me I don't have in front of me but I believe believe it's like somewhere between 250 to
400,000 that wouldn't be in this budget that'd be in next year's right 27 get certified as free cash for the fall and uh where if they plan on building a a
building that probably would pay about 500,000 a year in taxes is there Tiff part of this I'm not right now no um they're looking at a different kind of Tiff but uh nothing said on that and uh
like 274 East Maine they they're over 600,000 a year in taxes how how big was that proposed development at Elm Street yeah um was it
150 units I think yeah so that street is deemed capable of adding 300 cars I know that when they go to the planning board they'll have a review engineer look at everything I
haven't seen the rubber lies going across the road yet for a study so traffic study it is a pretty wide Road I mean I will say that but we'll see so you got a double a double uh Barrel issue the first the sewer tians for the residents then do they want that many
units on this on that quiet street even though it looks like I know sidewalks on at least one side I would think and I'm sure Paul knows from being fire the fire chief it's uh dangerous uh dangerous building question Madam cheer on the um
cherry sheet how um how accurate Mike has the estimates been in the past when you've been working close or low is it conservative is it last year um we were it didn't change much at all I'm just wondering if the governor is being too
optimistic and where one executive uh executive uh signature away from disaster but you know we can only hope but every year it's been and that's what you've used and that's what you've
used in our calcul and then you did a three and a 4% Mike I mean the 4% probably not a realistic figure but again I know from the fire side is 3% is not going to cut it either just because he's got to take
over the cost of the building now which you used to handle with the town hall you know so there things like that that are going to affect his budget I know drastically as well so let me get his marck Out start cutting
so and um your next meeting you'll have uh would do the Elm Street project and then uh police Communications fire emergency medical inspection Animal
Control Board of Health Public Health Nur which we don't have the landf and maybe death processing I'm not sure here should be a busy meeting huh should be a pack meeting oh yeah and we will
meet in the crane room next week in case people come from uh Elm Street so next week mad chair isn't just the special it's also going to include some of the other stuff too it'll be a long meeting yeah that's next Monday yes all right anybody else have
questions I have on article number five the discussion on a request for a joint meeting is that something more to discuss that's the April 1st reading April 1st yeah do we know what time uh I don't know
whether it's 6:00 or 7 7 planning noral start and that would be planning what time that select board you guys um I'm not sure whether it's 7:15 or not I'll get back
to 7 be speaking of which did you guys ever talk about mov when y meetings till 6 just a suggestion my schedule's wide open so I'm not to look at I could
be be here that's it it's want to put that on your nextend sure we can discuss next that's all I have all right anybody else have questions or and I'll just keep
sending um as we get um like this week if we get the concrete numbers on the health insurance we'll be able to adjust that give you another revenue and expenditure sheet all right we'll make sure we date them all so you can throw the old ones away
I guess one one quick question I apologize I know uh the schools the union is in negotiations right now but I'm guessing it's going to be more than 3% it is there any kind of idea on
what that's going to be I don't know last year like 8% when with the steps in the slides and everything I did actually and I can forward to you folks I did ask um the superintendent if she could just give me an idea of how how many people are on each step so you kind of figure out I mean even without any
raise whatsoever there's obviously going to be an increase right to your point um so I can I can pass that along if she did send that to me just kind of like a quick data dump I know it's but that's why the 3% is unreasonable there's no way you can do a 3% budget and not have it affect
your biggest line item which is the salaries and it's just you look still would yeah the 3% still would handle it so so that's across the board that's police fire Highway everybody you know it's and they really can't talk
about it in public right I apologize for asking no that's okay no I thought it was reason I asked say that is happening you just can't say What's happen just based on current numbers yeah even with no raise what it would be um I didn't I didn't run the numbers on
like what it actually would be but I didn't get all the the data for it so I'll pass that along I got a new boss in mainsfield yeah we do yeah things are changing I would say safe assumption that it's going to be layoffs but based
on the numbers mik put there I just don't see a scenario even if they negotiated a zero increase there's not enough money there I mean so I don't know how bad it is I don't know that's to come Steve did you
have any questions is he still there yes yes he is May yeah no not at this time okay just want to make sure you we included you did I just hear that somebody said James was going to work on forecasting turn backs or did I just I I brought
that up to see if that was possible Kevin you know just to give us a rough idea as to where we might be because of the interest was big last year well and I'd be interested in when we start getting the department budgets you can see your to dat expenditure but you could run rate it and project where the budgets will come in cuz the turn back
was material last year but even now when you look at um when James sends out the monthly and you look at it so at literally December 31st at the halfway point some departments W anywhere close to being halfway through their budget so you wonder if there's a field day come
May and June or something like that I know in fire side yeah we have a lot of vacations come May and June so I know from that side but again that's you know one kind of a gauge to look at and I kind of went through that in December you're right Kevin there's definitely a wasn't the big turn back last year
health insurance wasn't there a health insurance holiday was that was that two years ago okay last year was the interest it was unexpected and I think you'll be able to broadcast that because you had a rough idea from now we be it going to be at so I think to that point
my my biggest request is if we can get an idea of sort of big picture what are we planning on spending in the fall so that we can look at the again the whole picture um so that you know I know in the past sometimes we've said okay we'll give a little bit more to the schools
now knowing we're going to backfill the town later because the schools obviously um doesn't help them to get money in in October they've already made their their Cuts so if we could have a better idea of what the big picture is for the fall including the fall um I think that would be helpful for for all of us and where
stabilization mic is at the 5% so you're not really looking to have to put any in there you don't really want to take any out but again that's actually additional money that we potentially have to play with we're not going to fund any more into that right now so that's a little bit more a couple
thousand whatever that is there as a potential anyone else motional jar all right I'll take a motion jar second all right I think I have to do I have to do roll call don't I all right Zach yes Brandon yes Bill
yes Trace yes Paul yes bnie yes ke yes Gavin yes and Steve all right thanks everyone thank you thank you