Um, good evening. I'd like to call the board of assesses meeting to order. Uh, present is Denise Ellis, director of assessing, uh, member Lucas Greg,
myself, chair Richard Dorny, and, uh, on uh, our webinar, I believe is on is our clerk, Mike. Okay, Denise. Um,
we go start. You want to start? Um, yep. We have the minutes from August 12th. August 12th. Okay. All right. Everyone had time to review those. Mike, can you hear us?
I can hear you guys. Yeah, hear me. Great. Thank you. Um, all right. Uh would uh everyone has reviewed the the minutes? Yes. Okay. Yep.
Mike. Okay. So as well so to make a motion to approve the minutes. Second. Any comments? No. Okay. [Music] Second. Second. Okay. All those in favor?
I minutes are approved. Okay. Uh, next on the agenda, we have old business. I don't have anything.
Okay. What's up here? [Music] Our last man. We had uh I think we Lucas. Um,
okay. Anything, Michael? Nothing. Okay. Lucas. All right. All right. Uh, we have vendor bills. Okay. of Amazon, KP Law and W. Mason. KP
Law is for the ATB cases for the commercial ones. Okay. Uh, Amazon business. I assume that's uh stationary. Those two. Um, the first item is for cameras for the staff for their
computers so they can get onto their Zooms and all their and everything. All right. Um, yep. That's for two two large boy. Okay. Yep.
And then WB Mason is I think we had to get folders or something. All right. And the KP that's for the commercial payments.
I assume that's hourly the time. Uh yeah, that's they put into it and then the total. Yep. Okay. Yes. And Let's see what
I think it's just one one signature and initials. this. Okay. So, what is this? The turning. What was this one? That's KP Law. That's our um town council. That's for um ATB cases, all
the commercial ones. Is there KP Law or We also have another? We had Ellen Hutchinson who passed away. Yeah. she was doing our ATB and then um so then I was recommended to KPL which was good because we have them and they
have a specialist for the commercial work. Okay. We have our own account for that stuff um for the ATB cases. So that's why we're paying this back. All right, Mike, if you want to um come in when
you're back. Um, and Tom, you want to review these uh for your signature? That's fine. We can read them for you. Yeah, we'll hold on to them. All right. All right. Okay. Uh, monthly list. Yep. So, we have um August 1st. This is all the um
abatements for all um motor vehicle. Okay. Okay, there's the total there. All right. And this is September's list. Yep. [Music]
Again, Mike, you want to review these? We'll have them ready for you. sound good. Okay. Okay. All right. We have next.
Okay. Now we have Oh, this is a um a release um a tax lean release for um Chapter Land. He sold the property. There's a lean on the property. Remember, they go to chapter land that we put a lean on the property. Now that
it's all sold, going to take the lean off. So, um, this is the paperwork to release it from the registry of deeds. Um, they pay the fee, correct? So, they'll send in a check to us and then we'll take care of it. We'll send
everything and have it released. Okay. And then um as far as the property remain, it'll be gold. Um well, he he had a lot of property that he sold. One um this one
he sold that can be released. Another property he sold it's state that has to stay in chapter land. So that stays. We got the roll back taxes on these and all his other properties. So okay. Um one of them might be keeping it in. I'm not sure how many partials he sold
like how we sold it. But um if anybody wants to keep it in chapter land, they can. They just have to apply. But this one definitely came out. What's the address on that? That is probably
um I think like Plain Street, Mr. Riley's property. to get a bunch of property they just sold recently. Looks like the property's been broken up. Yeah, there's a lot of Yeah, there's a few different parcels.
I think I know what you're talking about. Okay, this might be the one with the house on it. I'm not quite sure though. There's so many of them. I don't know which ones we've done already.
Do we have any more uh in that type of situation where they'll be released coming out of chapter land? Um not right now. No. Okay. No. Uh we did have a few this year come out. Um but that's it for now. Let's hope. So
that would turn into new growth would be uh yeah actually when it does come out it turns into new growth when it comes out. Okay. It's a positive. Yeah. That's a positive. And then they pay the roll back taxes on top of it. So y
All right. All right. Uh next motor vehicle commitment. So Mike, it was 134,560.38. Can you say again? I did not hear enough. Yep. It's 134,560.38. That was the recent um commitment that
was just sent. Okay. They're smaller this time of year because all the big ones are in the beginning of the year. Mhm. These are all the stragglers that are buying the vehicles.
Now, this this would include um trailer Yeah. anything that's trailer plates, bolt plates, uh recreational vehicles, anything that's in that time frame. Okay.
Okay. [Music] What's that? All right. Okay. So the next thing is um this is Bristol County that um this is the fee that we paid to Bristol County for using
as for you know it's for like the registry of deeds and anything that goes along with Bristol County. So the the original amount is on the other page the what's it 7 million or whatever it is up here.
Up here. Oh yeah. So you take that amount and then they divide divide it through all the different communities. I don't know how they do it like I don't know if it's usage or it's just by population. I'm not quite sure how they divide it up. Um but then that's our portion of it for
the town. So what are we paying for? Um it's Bristol County. Um so you know we used the registry of deeds. Um anything that falls under that for Bristol County. So, I guess what they're doing is they're taking
um the properties. I guess they're basically recording all the Exactly. Yeah. They they send us the instruments. So, all all anything that happens to a property is recorded. The registry of deeds is obviously a fee.
Um and it looks like that fee uh is given as a bill every year. Yeah. Every year we get one. Yep. We just divide it up. So, they're managing their their records or our records
um regarding the property and the assessed values and any uh changes that come. They notify us. Yep. They send us all the deeds, all the plans, anything that we need. We don't we don't get charged for because they get us at
the end of the year. And this is divided up amongst every town in Bristol County. Yeah. Yeah. It's on the um the second page you'll see. Yeah. These are looks like these are the uh county commissioners
signature as well. So every county in the state does it that way. Thank you. Okay. So, next we had the chapter land. Okay. Which um Mike since you're not here um I think we have to table those.
Yes. I think um so just to so we have it looks like the next two agenda items are the chapter land applications and I guess the real estate tax
exemptions for the various clauses 22 22E 22D 41D and 41A. Um I with Mike not being present had a chance to review with this we're going
to have to table that um because we need a major do you have you completed the modules yet? Yes. You got them all completed. Did you not I didn't get a notification from the state. Did you get your notification? It's all done.
Then you have to send us the notification then. Okay. So, do you want to Well, we can't do it in time for notification. Okay. Well, you already know. So, why don't we um want to table it and
then we can do it next meeting. What do we table? Which one? So, we have to Yeah. No, it would be Yeah. the the chapter land. Yep. And those are applications that are done every year. And um the
um applications that have come in to date for the um the veterans and you know the causes veterans and seniors. Well, I don't want to delay the you know exemptions for the veterans and the senior. So I got the thing right here. So looking forward to that.
Yeah. Okay. It wouldn't delay it. That's probably not the right term. Yeah. We'll get them We'll get everything in before we do the before we send the bills out, right? So, we're going to have a few meetings before that to get all these exemptions in. Yeah. And I assume some of these are new
applications. Uh, a couple. We don't really get too many new ones, but there's probably a new a couple new ones. I don't know in the office, but All right. So, why don't we u everyone agrees that we can do that next meeting. It'll be a priority. Sure. We get it
addressed. Okay. Great. Okay. Um, Michael, did you hear that? Sounds good. Okay. Thank you. Yep. I got all that. We can we can we'll have more next meeting anyway, I think. Sure. Yeah, we're going to have a lot. We have a lot now. Long one. Yeah.
All right. Thank you for everyone. Uh, the chapel land, are we going to pass the chapel as well or we going to Well, we can table those two because I'll have more to do. So, we can just do them all together. Is that okay with you? I'll find your way.
Okay. All right. What's next? Um so review for town meeting. Yeah. Um we did a little um the new town manager. We did like a little practice
one today over at the high school. Never did that before. Was kind of good though. Okay. Okay. Um, they had a few people come in and just everybody kind of went up and did a quick thing and with all the warrant articles. Um, yeah. Well, I was a little bit late. Yeah. So, was a few of the Warren articles and just kind of see what kind
of questions people would ask and I think just so he would know what was going on. Okay. Um, I think that's a good idea. His first Yeah, actually it was it was pretty good. We never did that before. Never done that before. So, it was pretty good. I think it helped him out too. Helped everybody out a little bit. Um,
so then we have to decide. Do you have the published form of it? No. Um, I do not have the public. I don't have a number. We're um 1315. Is that 134 with I think we're 13 and 14. 134. Okay.
I didn't see it on the um this week's paperwork. Yeah. You didn't? No, I didn't see it. Okay. Yeah, it's I think with 134. I know that they referenced it at the U finance committee. It's 13. Yeah. It's on the website cuz I checked it today. It's up there.
All right. Um, so then we had to decide. Um, normally what would happen in the past with the town manager, they would get up and present it. And then answer any questions. Anything that couldn't be answered, then they
would call one of us up. Um, but this town manager is doing it differently. Each department's doing their own. So, um I don't know if you want me to get up and do it or if you wanted to do it or I don't have we can do it together. Y if there's questions.
I think probably more important um is what we're presenting in an overhead. Y so it could be easily comprehended and understood and um and that's when I gave you this. So, I
think in my opinion is from the past. Um, I think if we just do the the page of all the real estate exemptions, what they are, it's up to you guys. I'm just throwing this out there to you. And then I did the clauses that would be doubled.
Okay. Why don't we Can you um Can you kind of have this highlighted in different colors? Maybe. I don't I'm trying to Yeah. Whatever you want to do. What do you want to do? Yeah, I'd like to So, we're going to try to keep it to two pages. Is that kind of what we're looking at now?
Yeah. All the what I'm said these are all on one page and then just the ones we're going to double I just put on another page. All right. Um if you want to add things, delete things, whatever you want to do. So, this would be for clause
13, I think. I think 14 was the 14 reduction, right? The age So, this would be 13. Um, let's let's kind of kick this around. One thing I like to see is the reimbursements. You know, I'd like the
taxpayers to see how much we're getting reimbursed for the the existing exemptions. So, that's not on here. Okay. Because there is, you know, we're getting like 40 $121,000, but we're getting most of that back from the state. I think it was 117,000.
Um, that reimbursement should be on there. Okay. I think yeah, as far as presenting, I mean, I think Rick should do the presentation. Um, and you know, I'd like to say a few things. I don't feel like Denise should be presenting. Well, um, you know, if there's any questions, she can be there to answer the
questions, but you know, as far as the presentation goes, the presentation should come from from either Rick or myself. Well, I think I think Denise has to be present and well, she can be there to answer questions, but she should not be presenting this to
the town. So, I mean, I got some issues as far as, you know, past emails that have gone out and to the select board. You know, we've already discussed in previous meetings, so you guys want to get into that again. But, you know, I don't feel like Denise is the person to present this to the town for the,
you know, you presented it to the sew. Sorry. Sorry, Lucas. Cut off there. Question on the presentation. Where are we presenting this from at the meeting? Is this So, is this the massive meeting at the gym? Are we up on the stage or we down on the
on the uh It's in the auditorium. It's in the It's in the high school auditorium. And it's usually um the only people that are actually on the stage uh is the time moderator, the clerk, and
chair and vice chair. the finance committee if I remember correctly. And then below that is is a long table with um the elected officials, select board and school committee and um usually
town council, right? Town council and looking town manager. And then say looking at the stage to the left of that is usually where the department heads um attend or sit right near the podium and uh that's
where um the presentations come um or speakers can Yeah. So and then there's two um microphones in the back on the on the first level for for the attendees to speak. So, um,
yeah, I I think we should probably if we can kind of, um, you know, mention that point. That's a good point that, you know, we're 100% reimbursed on the veterans. It's this amount. Double obviously is going to be
this commitment. Um and um the seniors are going to equal to 47 which there is and these are only
this is um it's the three right uh 17E 37A and 41D y it's not including the the blind Well, the uh the blind is the second one. 37A. So, it does include the blind. All right.
There's five of those. Okay. You have to do all the numbers. What I'd like to do is have a definition of each one. Oh, there. They're all on that page. Okay. Great. And then it'll give you for the seniors, it tells you how much the income and assets are, if it's for um a single or a
couple. Yeah. So, and I think maybe we could just do a um an overview paragraph saying, you know, basically this this uh program is based
on income and asset um property asset eligibility. Yep. And um there, you know, minimum requirements and you can kind of just as you said here, maybe just present it more in a um Okay.
just two, three, four sentences in a in a verbal narrative and then we can obviously have the the numbers as is, but maybe just an introduction and a narrative. People kind of can read that and get that a little bit better instead
of just coming in without numbers. Sometimes that can kind of put people to Luke's point, the reimbursement's important to get on there as well, just so uh Yeah. And as far as understand what the effect of Jame might be, they want to guess on their own, but I think it's important to make sure
that's on there. Yeah. I think the other thing that you know we should consider is that um you know the $47,000 that's for the seniors over 70 70 plus. So is that is that the Yeah. So for 47,763
is from 70 plus. I think it was at the select board meeting where Rick did the math and we figured out we had 1330 something seniors and then you did a percentage based on um you know because 70 plus we had 2600 seniors and from 65
to 69 we only had 1300 seniors and based on the math you know you were coming up with about 20 grand additional because that's going to be a question. Yeah we it's basically right now Total from
age 65 to 69. There's roughly 1337 well 1337 people residents and we kind of use the same factor that we have for 7year-old.
It's um 0.02% 02% which gives you roughly probably 26 people that would participate out of the 1337. So I think that's important you know to let the people know that it's it's going
to be very minimal expense because we can't put a hard number on that because there's no data to go on, right? And then we also need to you know inform like we talked about before that the retirement age is 67. So a lot of those people in that age range are going to be working and probably not qualify for
these exemptions. Correct. Yeah. And that would be pertaining to warrant article 14. Okay. All right. And um so today when you presented today, how
long were you up there for? Oh, I don't know, maybe five minutes. A couple of questions came up. Um, one question came up on the age is why did we bring that one forward? So, I said some residents were interested in it. We brought it to the
board and that's why we're here. Yeah. Just like practice questions, get people used to. So, you have to figure out what you want to answer to that one. I'm sure there'll be a couple of residents that will ask about um the overlay.
How we going to get that? Yeah, that was a question. How's it going, right? How is it going to get there? You know, we said new growth um and we said uh you know hopefully um um the
what was the other issue we had? two principles new growth and you remember the over what are we what were we thinking that the the number would be I remember Mark mentioned at
the finance committee meeting so we're at 120,000 and then possibly another 20 for the age drop right right Right. As far as how we're funding it, I mean, that's not that's not a question that we should be answering. That's not our job.
It's how our manager supports this and it'll find the money. So, we've already discussed this with But I think that that will come up that then he can answer that. That's not up to us to answer that. That's not our Yeah. Okay.
All right. Um we want to uh Okay. Is that so we all set with that? Yeah. Why don't we just kind of um keep on nuancing this and we have another week here. We can just uh when you do the
clean it up, make some edits, give it to us to to review. We can go back, fine tune it. But I think, you know, the the the narrative up top and then what you did here is good, but maybe we we
kind of highlight the the ones that equal that, you know, 40 whatever it is 40,000. Well, do you want me to just take out the ones that we're doing or do you want to leave them all in there? I think if you leave them all in there and then you can highlight the ones
we're doing, right? So it gives you the the big picture and then the scope sure of what we're doing and how this if we could squeeze one more column into these just the effective cost so we can kind of get that reimbursement baked in
you know uh because we do get all that money back from the state on some of these right yeah so I'll put uh yeah I'm going to put the reimbursement show that somewhere pretty straightforward so people can kind of get it yep I'm going to I'll make another column and you guys can take a look at
it and then design it the way you want to design it. But I I'll add the other column in there with the reimbursements. Yep. So looking at this historical new growth, our new growth doubled since last year. 2024 looked like it was
Well, I now now it just came back to me. So I'm sorry. I I just wonder was uh we talked at the meeting and again I know you're coming from this is free cash. Mhm. Where that that number we had the chart you had shown. Mhm.
Which was really amazing that it went the graph. Yeah. I gave another copy of it. So when you look at that and what our articles are asking or requesting,
I I I think it it validates what we're we're doing for sure. Yep. Did you see I'm just I'm just curious, you know, unrelated to this town meeting. I'm just curious from 2024, our new growth was a
little under 800,000. 2025 it spiked up to 1.6 6 million. Yeah. So, did we have that much new growth in town? I mean, I think Yeah, that's a lot of it come from It's all the warehouse. There's a lot involved. Yes.
Expiring tiff as well, correct? Does that get added? Yep. The tiffs that expired. Um and then like even the uh even as they're changing in the years for the tiffs, we get new growth out of that. Um the warehouses were completed
last year. The apartment complex was completed last year. Um, there's a whole bunch of stuff that was One thing I'd like to show the town is the last 5 years of new growth. It's right here. No, I understand. It's It's Well, we can show that, but yeah, exact numbers, though. Like, you
know, right here, it shows I'm in between 6 and 800,000. I don't have Oh, I can just I can add that in there. I had it, but it looked messy. So, I'll put it back in. So, going back to 2020, I think I would like to see exact new growth every year. All right. and then do a comparison with the you know what the budget has done.
Yeah, I think there was part of a that big number there 25. Was that annihilated? What did they have to negotiate? That was back in this one in 2019. That was El Nylum. But no, but renegotiated, didn't they? Oh, that was years ago. Yeah, that was
way back um 20 around 2020, I think. Okay. Maybe before. Um Okay. All right. So that so just to let you guys know I this this is from the um
these graphs are from the classification hearing for the packet. That's what's in there. Okay. All right. All right. So we'll have that um as an overhead as well. No I I don't know if we want to
Well, I present that show that I think we could have that if that comes up. Yeah, we can have it if it comes up. Do you want me to give this to Jill to have just in case? Yes. Okay. Yeah. I just think, you know, if you can
be as um not overload people with information that way. Okay. If it comes up, let me answer the question. Okay. Yeah. How many attention spans are not
famously wanted? Oh, well, you never know what article will be the uh surprise. I mean, there's a lot I mean, it's good. It seems like there's a lot with the planning. Yeah.
Um department. There's um obviously the schools, what we heard at the finance committee meeting about the roof, right? I thought that was off. Was it off? I think they're going to middle school room. Yeah. Yeah. I think they hold I think they're holding off is what I heard. I'm not
sure. So, one thing about the town meeting is, you know, if we're all the way down at what 14, people are going to be antsy by the time we get there. So, I think we should keep this presentation real simple and stupid like Yeah. You know, we discussed, right? You know, keep it based, you know.
Yeah. The bottom line, how much is it going to cost us? Who's it going to affect? Who's going to benefit from it? Yep. We don't need to get We don't need to get too into the weeds with the numbers. Yep. No, I agree.
Okay. Um, it all right. So, we did that and that and then we All right. So, you're just going to keep us updated with revisions on that. Yeah. I'll get do that this week. Um, I'll send it out either Wednesday or
Thursday. I'm not here Friday, so Wednesday or Thursday I'll send it out. Yeah, probably tomorrow. I'll probably do it tomorrow and get it out. Okay. Okay. Um, next. Okay. So, just an update on the ATB
cases. So, KP Law is working on them. They have I don't know what it's called on the 28th with the other lawyers. I don't know if I'm going to be on that call or not. Um, with the other lawyer, I was never on them, but I don't know if they're going to have me on this, but
some of them are definitely should be dismissed for different reasons. Um, so I I think they're going to be in really good shape. So I'll find out at the end of the month. But um, are these residential or are they? These are all commercial. These are like
um mostly warehouses. There's a couple. Yeah, it's on the 28th they have there. Yeah, this it seems they have a meeting. Seems every year like it's almost they just do it out of hab uh out of
rope. They request it. Good. And these ones are So what happens with all the with commercial um abatements, they're they're just like valuation companies or lawyers will just send a bunch of them in. Yeah. You know, and the owners don't even know
that they're sending them at half the time. Um usually we we so we deny them. Um this is these ATB cases are from here. They're from 24 23 24 and 25. Um, but there are a bunch 25 that we got an empty envelope. So, those all will be
dismissed because we actually didn't get them to do anything with. Well, because of the time. Yep. And then there's a couple that late payments. They might not. They might be dismissed. And there's just a couple that are just crazy. I mean, they paid over what the assessment is, so they'll
be dismissed. So, we'll see what happens about the um ATB cases is um you know, I'd like to review those and I think we should review those just like we've talked about before, especially residential homes. So, I'm not going to agree to sign off on any denials on
residential abatements unless I can review them and make sure that people are getting a fair shake. As far as commercial stuff, you know, obviously, you know, you get the law. If you're late on a payment, that's different. But you know I think we should be looking at those rather than just you know taking the um advice of the assessor. You know
that's our job to oversee overlook these abatements and make sure that people get in a fair shape even if it is commercial. Well past from past experience to commercial um they're not even really completed
correctly. anything. You'll see. You'll see it. That's that's fine. But, you know, I mean, you don't just I just don't want to have a bunch of these applications dropped in my lap to sign off on denials. I'm not going to do that. So, okay. I think we should be one question I missed guys already. Uh,
this good with reviewing. I just didn't hear it. I might have missed it. Did we get that? Did we get a new attorney for those uh personal cases yet? We did, Mike. So, we have KP Law, which is our town council. they have like a a specialist. Um, so I I asked around and
they gave me the name of the person. So that's who I hear. Oh, sorry. So yeah, we have KP Law is going to do it. Um, they're our town council and they have like a specialist that does ATB cases. So they're working on it,
Tom from KP Law. And then I don't know. Okay. um with um PK as well. That had some sad news there. Yeah. Yep. So, but you know what? The
staff did great. We got our numbers in. Um everything's been approved so far. We can't go any further until we um have the classification hearing. Okay. We'll do that on November 6th is the classification hearing. Okay. And that's been set. That's been set. Yep. We'll do that. All
right. Um, are you familiar how that works? No. All right. So, the classification hearing is Yeah. It it's so it's basically, you know, um
they have five things that they have to vote on the classification area. One is the tax rate, whether they're going to it's split. So, then they're going to decide how much of a split they want to do. We'll have all the paperwork for that. Then the other portion of it is is
um a residential exemption, small commercial exemption, open space which we don't have. Let's see what I'm missing. Uh we have residential open space, commercial, industrial personal property. So um up until
3 years ago, we had a single rate in town, I believe, right? Three years. So uh it was um 100% valued at the residential and commercial. So whatever that number was assessment 100%.
Um the state allows you to use a factor of what one of is you could lower it to is it 1.6? What's commercial? You could right now we've been doing
1.05 commercial. So we can go to 95. We can go up to one.5 is the highest we can go. That's what we're allowed. Um but that that would be years down the road.
Yeah. So cities and town you each Yeah. It's called the vote to maintain a shift increase the shift. So residential commercial. So I think uh there's an analysis that's involved
towns that are similar to us geographically around us uh what our you know what our mix is today where our growth is coming from. So all that gets weighed in. We
don't make the decision on the tax rate, right? We present it and then um the select board will make that decision based on the information that we give them. So I think if you notice it's mostly a lot of cities have
a split tax rate and a big split. Yeah. Yeah. So, if you look at the, you know, I did an analysis on the tax rates here in town and I did the 25 surrounding towns and we're actually a point higher on residential and was several points lower on commercial.
Well, if you do the surrounding town on average, uh, when you say low, well, a point that could be true. I mean, I did the 25 surrounding towns with the tax rates and we're we're one point higher on average than the 25 surrounding towns and we're like four points lower than
the 25 on the commercial rate. So, all the information that's in this packet, this is all information that the select board has asked for over the last few years. So they've asked for specific towns to put in here um that they felt
we should have. Um so right but to your point so master journal law requires that the assessor value properties at a medium assessment to sales ASR at a ratio of 90% to 110. I
think we use 95. Last year I think it was 96. 96. Okay. I think this year it's going to be 95. Yeah. So, we're low, which is good. Yeah. Um, and [Music]
I think it's important the valuations, where does the um, excuse me, over 80% of the valuations come from our residential home.
only well seven from commercial almost 10 from industrial and just under three for personal property right yep that's correct that's where we are today yeah that was last year's numbers pretty it's pretty similar though
it's coming out pretty similar so you know again you just uh present the information I mean I don't think you can make a uh kind of a a big change. I don't think that's, you know, a prudent thing to do. I think
you kind of look at where you want to be with your tax rate with commercial market. This is 2025. FY 2025, right? There'll be um there's a a sheet in there that gives you an idea like what it would be at like 1.5, 1.10 like and
it goes up like that. What it would be for residential, what it would be for commercial, I think. Yeah. LA last year I think was our third year doing it and we kept it at at 1.05. Yeah. Um
and it seems to work. I mean there's not really any I don't I don't think I don't hear any push back from commercial or anything. I mean it's yeah there is a a big shift a big difference. Yeah. I mean you might want to look at it a little different this year from what I'm looking at. Um but you guys can
take a look at that one. I have it all ready at the next meeting. Okay. Well, we do have a juicy commercial rate and that's what is enticing a lot of this commercial these people to try to build these developments. Well, they they they look not only the
tax, but they look for tiffs. They look for any advantage they can get, you know. Um I think even I don't even know 40b or anything like I think we've met that threshold 10%. Yeah we're at 40B now.
Yeah but again with new growth and you have uh developments going in off of uh new and etc. You know that does factor into the that that percentage 40b. So um it's always moving. It's not set.
Correct. It's fluid. So um but those are all things that you know you have to consider and um you know again I think you know we are a little bit different. We don't have like a a true business
park like Mansfield does. I think they try to kind of convert that over to more of an industrial um I know the planning department I think they they use they talk about village commercial
mixuse kind of focusing on that. So there's a lot of things going on you have to consider. Yep. Yep. Okay. All right. So that's going to be classification hearing November 6th
to the select board and the public. Okay. And that'll be in the crane. Doesn't that doesn't Yeah. If I remember, doesn't that come under a public hearing? Yeah, I think it does. Yes, it's a public hearing. It'll be um public hearing. Yeah. And we have to post it two weeks
before. So it'll be posted on the website and we don't have to put in the newspaper anymore. Nobody reads the paper anymore. So that's not a requirement. Um but yeah, so we'll have to post on the website. All right. So as you get moving and just
give us the information and Yep. As soon as everything's done, then um I'll send you guys the package. And that's going to be here before you know it. Yeah, it's it's right around the corner. Yeah. But it's good. We got that. I mean, this template seems to work well. Yeah, probably.
Yeah, it does. I just change it up a little bit every year. All right. If there's anything you want to added to it, just let me know. I'll just add something. I don't know. You guys can go through it when I have it all done. Yep. Okay. All right. All right. Um, is there anything else we
need to discuss, review? Where do we stand with the computer on the desk? Um, well, Adam was supposed to put it in today. They're short-handed. Our IT person's out. Adam has been doing
everything. Took me I had to work with him this morning to get the Zoom going. Uh I don't know. I We're trying to get it up. He just doesn't have time to put it in, but it's there. Just waiting. No, we should try to Yeah. I thought I He was going to do it today and then he just then he disappeared. So, I don't know what
happened to him. Every time I woke him around, he was in a different office. He's been busy. Yeah. All right. Well, maybe we can He's trying to do two people's jobs. So just kind of remind uh Yeah, I remind him once a week, you know, maybe let Mark know that, you know, doesn't do any paid for it.
Yeah. No, we we'll get we'll definitely get it out before the bills get out out there. That's for sure. Okay. All right. All right. With that, it looks like we So, do you want to schedule a next meeting? Um, so I was thinking
October 28th if that works. That's a Tuesday. Yeah. Okay. Um, so 21st I'm I I'm in a conference all day. I won't be here. Okay. October 28th.
Yes, that works. How's that work for you, Mike? October 28th. Sounds good. Okay. And then if you want to do a second one because we're gonna have to do we're probably gonna have to have a few meetings to get all the exemptions in. Yeah.
So then I was thinking no well the 11th is Veterans Day. That's a holiday. Do you guys want to change it to the 12th? Because the following week we want to get the bill billing file sent over cuz we need like it needs two
weeks to go over to the billing company. Then they got to send it back and then it takes two weeks for the um the printing company to do it. So that's like a month. So if we can get if I can do the billing file on the 17th and if we can get all the the exemptions
that we have before that would be great. I can get them on the bills. So it's up to you guys. Well, sooner the better. I think that way we're not we probably have what close to 60 now maybe. Yeah, I think we have that now. We'll probably have a little over 100.
Yeah. Okay. Um that so we can get those on the bill so they'll see it and then anything that comes in after that we'll put them in the system but they won't see it on the bill but when they call they'll see it they'll know that they have it and they get a letter anyway so they're going to know they have it.
Okay. So 28th next meeting and then we say then I was thinking Wednesday the 12th if that works for you guys. Wednesday November 12th if not a big deal. I mean, and we'll just look different. All right. So, we got
Wednesday is Why are we doing it on a Wednesday? Cuz Tuesday is Veterans Day. It's a holiday. Yeah. It's the one holiday. They don't make it a Monday unless it's a quick correction. Yep. Is everyone okay with 29th, Wednesday
the 29th instead of the 28th? Uh um oh in October that's what you guys want to do right now I don't see anything
so I don't care about the 28th 29th the 12th is my birthday in November and I'm pretty sure we have plans so that's my my birthday is the 28th no offense guys but you know
uh Well, my my birth my birthday's in the my birthday's in the summer, so I I got that covered. I guess we won't read that. So, um All right. So, why don't we make it? You say the 29th, Michael? So, we're going to go Wednesdays. Wednesday. 29th for me is five. And
Okay. November is also five. And would you say, Lucas, you the 12th? Any day about the 12th. Okay. So that would be uh we could do it. I mean it it at this point we could do
it anytime. We just they don't have to go I mean this last group like from October 28th to November it just won't be on their bills but they're going to be on there. So when they call we'll just tell them what they owe. You know what I mean? They'll have and that happens every year
because we can't get them all in before the bills go out. So, if you want to have one at the beginning of November, if you want to try to fit one in. If not, then we can do it. Yeah. The week of the 17th. It doesn't matter. November 17th if you want. Tuesday. Um the 18th. November 18th. Tuesday
is a Tuesday. All right. Let's Does that seem good to you? Of course. Good. And then the following week is Thanksgiving. So, it's a Tuesday. November 18th. So right now is are scheduled for us to meet with the next meeting the
29th. Mhm. Wednesday October 29th. Then we have the classification hearing November 6th uh with the select board. It's a public hearing. Then November 17th or 18th 18th
um which would be our meeting to um really uh address the uh the clauses. Yeah, we'll get the rest of the clauses in and all that. Um and then in December, probably like the second week of December something there. All right.
116. You said 116 is a classification. Yeah. That usually runs about a hot. Okay. Okay. That's all I have. All right. Um, with that any final
comment and then we'll just um I mean I don't know if you want to bring you know discuss the quoting you said earlier you wanted to talk about that you want to do that now uh for not media at the beginning of the meeting you said you wanted to discuss well we can talk today I
yeah I know something I just didn't know and yeah fine um thank you for coming you're welcome um I guess we'll during the meeting. Okay. Uh do I have a motion to adjourn? Motion to adjourn.
All right. Second. All in favor? Thank you.