All right, folks. Time's just about six o'clock. We're going to get started. Going to start with the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the for
one nation with liberty and justice for all. All right. Just so everyone is aware, this meeting is being recorded by Nort Media. Anyone else that is recording, please let us know. Start with the public comment period. If
anybody wishes to address the meeting, please do so. Please state your name and address for the record. Okay, seeing none, we will move to vote and approve the minutes of the September 24th open session meeting. Everyone had a chance to review these.
Any questions, comments, edits? Okay. Okay. Entertain a motion to approve the minutes as presented. So move second. >> All those in favor. >> Next we have the Lawrence Escalian. >> Um I have reviewed the following school
expense and payroll warrants. School expense warrant September 24th 2025 587,31153. School payroll warrant September 18th 2025 1,365,993 and555 cents that were reviewed and approved and wish to enter the public
record. >> Thank you. Moving on to the student representative updates with Benson and Leah. >> Hello everyone. Um, so in addition to our general update, we asked the building principles um to share a moment recently um that reminded them of why
they do what they do and wanted to share their responses. >> So from the Yell U, Mr. Gagan shared this past week as the Yell School launched its new RIT blog called Lancer Learning Time LLT, he was reminded exactly why he loves being an educator.
RIT or response to intervention is a multi-tered approach that helps identify and support students academic and behavioral needs. It begins with strong high quality classroom instruction and regular screening for all students. Based on the results, students receive targeted small group instruction or enrichment to help them grow, ensuring
every learner gets what they need to succeed. At the Yell LLT combines of IMTSS, RIT and PBIS to provide 40 minutes of each day focused datadriven support in ELA or math. Both groups are
divided into teams of teachers and specialists allowing for smaller groups and more specialized instruction. Mr. Gagean said that during these sessions, students experience both the challenge and the reward of learning. Those moments of struggle followed by the aha breakthroughs that make teaching
so meaningful young folks. Watching students gain confidence and excitement when a concept finally clicks has been a powerful moment of reminder of why this work matters. He added for him and Mr. Balo that these LLT blocks have quickly become the best
part of the day right alongside their good news calls. They've reaffirmed why they do what they do, helping students realize they can do hard things at celebrating them when they do. Then um from the JCS, Mr. Barrett um shared that he's reminded on a daily basis why he does what he does interaction with
students at JCS. Makes it a priority to visit as many classrooms as possible each day and spends time in the cafeteria during lunches, connecting with students in both small and meaningful ways. Um sometimes that reminder comes from something as simple as a smile or a fist bump in the hallway
or even helping a student open their milk. Other times it's through sitting down with students to talk through a difficult situation, hearing everyone's perspective and finding a positive solution together. He said those moments along with comments from staff or families about the ways the school is
supporting their children reinforces purpose as a principal to ensure that every student feels safe and successful at school. While some days are more challenging than others, Mr. Barrett shared that he's reminded of that purpose in countless ways every single day. >> And from the LG, Mr. Mr. Higgins shared
that one of the most most rewarding parts of his role at LGN has been visiting classrooms to read to students. He makes an effort to do this several times throughout the year or anytime a teacher invites him because, as he puts it, back in the day as a classroom teacher, one of his favorite things was introducing great children's literature
to his students. Now, as a principal, he values the opportunity to impact the literacy of the entire school. In addition to reading out loud in classroom, he shares book recommendations during daily video announcements with the help of the PC PTC, excuse me, ensures that every
student receives both a birthday book and a break book for each school vacation. Just this week, a student's grandmother mentioned how much her grandson loves that Mr. Higgins has visited his class to read the Smart Cookie by Jory Jordan and Petal. Mr.
said that these moments help him promote literacy while connecting with students on a personal level. A true win-win. Experiences like this remind him exactly why he chose to become an educator and why he continues to learn to love what he does each day. That's all from us. >> Thank you.
>> Any questions? >> I like the added question. >> Very creative. >> All right. Next, we have the opening of school remarks with Mr. Hayward hopes we knew we'd be here. So, um I enjoy
teaching the kids and I can barely stand six years 154 school days left. I think I'll let it come to an end. Um but um thank you for having us tonight. We're interested in telling you about the start of the school year. Uh
we've had a great start to the school year in general. um have some pictures to show you just going through the school year and I'll make some comments. Uh fortunately, we had some two great days at the beginning of the week in October. We were able to get outside on the picnic tables that
our parent board bought us a couple years back uh through their fundraising efforts with the community that supports us. Uh so we're glad to get out with that. Kids really enjoyed it. Um, we welcomed uh 544 students on September
2nd. Um, as I said, we had a good start to the school year. Kind of got started even before, which was great. We've had our second annual police academy here. Was really good to have kids back around the building even before we get open getting used to their voices and all the scurrying around that was going on in
the building. Um it was led by uh our SRO officer Robisho and a Northern High School SRO Sergeant Dennit. Uh it gave a the students a unique opportunity to learn and grow and lead. Um they learned about uh all the cadets learned about
teamwork skills, tackle technical challenges, as you can see some of them over at the fire department, deepen their appreciation for respect, which is one of our core values, integrity and leadership. Uh it was a fun and rewarding week. Uh many kids described
it as life-changing and they're already looking ahead to year three and we'll share details in spring of 2026. And it was full. It was packed a lot more cadets the second time around. >> Is it the same ones that did it last year or is it like a crop every
>> uh new crop of kids? They did welcome back I think three carryovers to kind of be like um cadet instructors like student instructors and I think they selected a few more that will continue next year to kind of bridge the gap but it was all new kids
and uh you can see the state police came out and they brought the helicopter out again which is always the highlight. Okay, new staff. We were able to hire some new staff which was great as opposed to losing them. Uh, first we brought back we brought back Chris
Cummings. Chris was here when I first started. Exceptional teacher. I think he's here right now. Right there. Uh, he came back. He's, uh, again, an excellent teacher. Um, he's teaching science up on Six Purple. Welcomed him back. Uh, Jack
Bole's working in our best program. Kate joined us from North Attboro where he held a similar role. Kathy Kelly was a paraprofessional with us last year. Um believe she lives in the town also does a lot of coaching and so on and now she's moved into the uh
LBC teacher role on six purple. Uh Zach is a par professional in a grip program. He's also a certified teacher uh in social studies. So it was great to bring his skill set in and degree and uh knowledge there. So both good. Uh Haley
Spacowski think got that right. She's a music and chorus. So, we're very pleased to have our music uh chorus and band program back. We've always had the chorus elective. Uh looking really looking forward to the winter and spring concert which kind of like staples in our school
year prior. So, Haley's got the chorus up and we have really good participation in that. And Julia Larson who joined us last year when we kind of got that somewhat approval to bring that back. She continued on in the role covering for maternity leave as a fullear
long-term sub and she's picked up right where she left off doing some really creative and engaging products with the uh projects with the kids. Uh PBIS at our school um is a great way to focus on the start of the school year. Start with some positive things
recognize students for um the 80% of kids that really make the class humble because they follow things. don't need a ton of uh repeating directions and so on to kind of meet our expectations daily. Um here just some kids getting the shirts been sending down uh students
names and they've been getting the LE t-shirts again. Parent Ford gets those for us. Here are some more kids and kids. And here's some stuff from our classrooms again. very pleased to have uh instruments back and band and chorus
um and those functioning hands-on projects are always exceptional. This is Mrs. Bushad up here. I think I saw her come in tonight. >> And then our clubs and activities, that's uh probably the thing I think our sixth graders uh most look forward to as
they transition to the middle school. All the clubs and activities um they're up and running right now. Some of the clubs start later in the school year like drama and woodwork and few of the other clubs. Um
and Rubik's cube club. Um going to be taken over by Mr. Bid. I think I saw Benny in here. Benny's there. He taught me how to do the Rubik's Cube years ago in the club. The one who showed me. It took me since 1980 something. >> He got saw him.
>> And of course our sports programs here really make us unique. We're fortunate to be in the league. I have some updates from the different teams. Uh the girls soccer team is off to a hot start, 51-1. They've outscored opponents 37 to four.
Uh they have 12 eighth graders, six seventh graders, and one sixth grader, and 14 returners. Uh the group combines skill, effort, and a love of the game. Six matches matches remain as they push for a strong finish in the league. Uh they're coached by KJ Williams who
works at our elementary school. Boys soccer coached by Tim Lante. I saw Tim here too. The boys team sits at 4-1 and three showing grit and resilience with three come from behind wins and several late game ties. The most dramatic victory came against Rainom scoring
three goals in the final 10 minutes for a 3-2 win. And recently they shut out Somerset two to zero. And they're looking forward to a rematch with Freetown Lakeville coming up. Uh, volleyball coached by Norton Middle School teacher Meg Hartnett. Uh, led by
their eighth grade captains Avery Panick, Daniela Dolac, and Lacy Fuller. The team is 5 and2. They thrive on teamwork and determination. They've had big crowds that have energized the players all season. Next home match is a Dig Pink game on Thursday, Octo October
16th, raising funds for the Ellie Fund and breast cancer awareness. And finally, cross country coached by Amy uh Jay, Dr. J up for the high school nut and Marissa Misaro. This year's team
has 37 runners um who are excelling both on and off the course with nutrition, sportsmanship, and teamwork. Both teams are 2 and 0 when league meets and several of the athletes are going to qualify for the 16th annual Massachusetts Middle School Invitational
on November 1st out in Devon. Um, and then our unified botchi team. Uh, we were supposed to have our first game today. It got cancelled the weather. So, these are pictures from last year's team, but uh, we're looking forward to getting that going. I think we have five matches scheduled. So, we've kind of increased the number of
matches that we're going to have. We look forward to that team getting underway. Here's some more pictures. And then in our gym, um we got uh Jay Massie, actually Non resident, um put this new logo up in in the gym. There's
a lot of blank space up on that wall >> and again donated by the parent board and uh the the logo itself is donated by the parent board and uh Mr. Massie donated his time and expertise to hang that up there. So it looks really good
if you get into the gym. Uh okay, now we're on to Thanksgiving. Then it that's the start of school report. Um there's any questions for what? >> How often do you do they'll answer leads?
>> Uh recently I've been doing it um a couple days a week. I've been calling this week I've been doing it every day. I've been calling kids down on team. The PBIS has also run um on team too. So they do a lot of giveaways and ticketing on the team. Oftentimes one of the
prizes will be they get a wrap like a ticket to come get a shirt, but initially just to get it going and get some shirts out. Uh they've been sending me names directly, but they do it I think once a week on teams they'll do uh pull tickets and so on.
Um, so I know that for last year you had to readjust your setup for sixth grade because of smaller class size and downsized staff and stuff. Um, did that model still stay the same for sixth grade with the incoming sixth graders? Did you adjust or >> changes? Yes.
>> Yes. That the the thing is yes, but not for the sixth graders. So that followed kind of that I'll call it a bubble class, but it's kind of inverse. It's that small group that are currently seventh graders. So, we've actually extended the creative design course into the seventh grade. >> Okay.
>> So, seventh grade specials run on a 30-day cycle >> and our sixth and eighth run on a 36 day cycle. So, it's still in balance kind of I guess um >> taking advantage of uh having that smaller group by we had some budget
constraint. >> Yep. >> You know, that's going to cycle out and then we're gonna have to figure out plan B, but >> kind of taking advantage of that. So that continues with the sixth graders as they roll to seventh grade. >> Okay. And you still doing the team sharing like >> uh no that we didn't because we were
able to um bring back a bit. Great. >> You know that was some of the stuff we've been able to bring back. So again we kind of lucked out with that small size to help uh soften some of the budgets that have taken place. And then this year we're fortunate along with the
chorus and banner programs to bring some of it back. >> Thank you. The outstanding challenge we have is that we don't have any book lending going on in the library. Okay. >> But you know that's a 16th century problem. I guess we're still blessed
in public school. >> So well that's our next challenge. >> Thank you. >> Anything else? >> Thanks guys. Thank you. >> Thank you. Next we have our student
AP students with distinction Dr. >> Okay, I'm going to go up to the >> evening everyone. Uh thank you all for coming tonight. We know we're all here to honor our students. Uh, the College 4's advanced placement program gives high school students a chance to take college level courses in subjects such
as math, science, history, language, and the arts. These courses match the rigor of introductory college classes and allow students to earn college credit or advanced placement based on their performance on the AP exams. Beyond the possibility of earning college credit,
AP offers several key advantages. They help students build the skills needed for college level work. They enhance college applications by demonstrating success in challenging course work. And they may even lower college costs by reducing the number of required courses
once students are enrolled. Um AP exams, which are usually offered in May, are graded on a scale of 1 to five with scores of three or higher, often considered passing for college credit. Norton High School enjoys a robust
participation in the AP program with 182 students enrolled last year in courses across multiple subjects. Tonight, we are proud to recognize 10 current Norton High School students who received the highest distinction by earning a score
of five on one or more of their AP exams. Participation in the AP program continues to grow at Norton High School. During the 20 24-25 school year, we had 168 students take a 100 a total of 362
exams. That number has increased for this current school year with 182 students projected to take 400 exams across a broad range of subjects reflecting both the expanding opportunities available to students and their continued commitment to academic
excellence. So, what I'm going to do tonight is I'm going to call each student up one by one. Um, I'll present them with their certificate and then hopefully um Benson will get us a picture and we'll invite the family to come up and take a picture with them as well. Um, but it might take
us a few minutes to get through all 10 of you. So, um, the first student I want to recognize is Colin Artisani. And I believe Colin is not able to be with us tonight because he is actually um, taking a college course right now. So, good for him.
Annabelle Griffin. Why not? Mom, >> Annabelle received a five in English language and composition and US history. Okay. Uh my next award goes to Allison Hang who received a five in English
language and composition. Um unfortunately Allison has a game tonight and is not able to join us. >> She's in Melis Cup with a volleyball team. >> Hey, there you go. All right, Carl May. Carl here.
that wants to come up. Come on up. All right, Mom. Thanks. Thank Uh Carl, congratulations on your five in US government and politics. That's amazing. Um Cat Moore
cat here today. Uh Cat um earned a five in English language and composition, European history, and US history. Congratulations to her Valeria Santiago. Okay, Valerie received a five in Spanish
language and culture. Congratulations. >> All right, Melanie Sheety, come on up, Mel. Mom and dad want to come up and take >> I guess. Thank you. >> Melanie received fives in English language composition in US history.
Congratulations. All right. Brody Miguelki here. Okay. Uh Brody received a five in US history. Tyler Winkus >> somewhere else.
>> Uh Tyler received a three, sorry, a five in chemistry, English language composition, and US history. And finally, I have Ben Yazakovich. Come on up, Ben. to see him sweat here too, right? Dad,
>> we'll see you in a couple weeks. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. investment. Um, Ben received four uh scores of five in chemistry, English language, and composition, statistics, and US history. Um, congratulations to all of these
students. I think um number one it's so important that um we celebrate all of their hard work and um this you know being a AP student with distinction um is is really such a great um testament to your work and your time and your
dedication to academics. I know so many of you are involved in other things in school as well. So I applaud you um for being both active in your school community and really committed to the academics of of school as well. So, congratulations to all of you. Thank
you. >> Congratulations everyone. Um it's it's remarkable the work that goes into some of these students and student athletes and you know holding down jobs and and doing remarkable things. So um you know we always like to share the spotlight
with our distinct students. So congratulations to all of you. Um, so we're going to move on to our next item update, which is the transportation update with Mrs. Hatfield. Um, for those of you just visiting, you can feel free to um make
yourselves leaving. >> I was trying to say it nicely, but you're more than welcome to be. >> You're welcome to stay. >> Thank you all so much for coming. >> Thank you. Congratulations. So transportation. So had a great start
to the school year. Um, as we noted noted in a couple meetings ago, we had a few bumps in the beginning with um the water movement that was happening on South Forester Street um Park Court, but that was just a day and then we also had
caving um on North Washington Street, but that was just a little bump delays after that. Um it was made s um we have a little bit less of students that are registered this year. last year around our short-term transit which was
our third visits. Um but we have brought in the same or a little bit more money. Um we have brought in to date $140,000. Last year it was around 138,000 at this time. Um I that looks to be because of
our late fees. We've collected more in late fees here than we have in the last two years which is about 47 I think. Um, we've also had a very streamlined registration process. Um, which is thanks to Alice Samborn and Barry
Williams. They've done a great job registering students and making it um much more smooth than any other here. Um all of our buses um are running Oh, sorry that's not um only two buses
so far are at capacity um which are on the hay middle run that is bus four and bus 7. We probably won't um have any more registrations um for those two buses um which comes to
just about 2. couple have agreed to see those passes but the rest are smoothly. >> What is our what is our timeline registration like when we start notifying parents? >> Um it's usually give or take a week every single year but it's usually
around May 31st to June 1st. >> So we're trying to catch them from Florida schools. >> Yes. >> Question on that. What area of town is most? >> Um, it depends which school. So, they
don't always make the same assumption. I really don't. [Music] Yeah, because for example box are there up near Bay Road for for middle
>> and then um I think she is not still over there middle either. So I'm not really sure. >> Any other questions? >> So when these buses they're still doing three loops, correct?
>> Do three tiers. Um trying to bless >> and also do three too. >> And then does do any do two? >> Um the other five. Yep. >> 10 do three and then five do two. >> Correct. >> And then the other the five that do the
two tiers. Which tier are he skipping? >> Um JCS. >> Cool. Thank you. Anything else? on to the next is the enrollment update with Dr. >> Thank you. Um so as of October 1st um
for just to reiterate um October 1st is the date that um we send all of our data into the Department of Elementary and Secondary Education and that number our enrollment number on October 1st is the date that they use for all of our
funding for the following fiscal year. So um it's really important that we get that date that data correct um at that time because everything moving forward will be based on those numbers. So I always like to give you an update at this time in the year uh focus on those
October numbers. So um as of October 1st we had a total enrollment of 2362 students here in Norton. Um of that number 286 are district students that are enrolled in our five schools. 204 students at our
school choice, 39 students that are enrolled in the Breeds Deaf and Heart of Hearing program, 32 students that are in specialized um out of district placements, and one student that is with us as part of a tuition agreement or attending one of our specialized
programs here in district um because their district didn't have something and we were able to offer a spot. Um this is down um about 72 students from when we left in June. Our number in June was 2435.
Um so the um en district enrollment itself we are down by 37 students across prek to um grade 12 plus and we are down 72 students when it comes to um
school choice. I'm sorry not 72 35 my wrong numbers here 35 students in school choice. uh the main area where we saw that decline was from grade 8 to grade nine. So we know that oftent times this is the biggest place where we where we lose students because they have other
opportunities for high school. Um they could go to South Eastern, they could go to Fien, they could go to Zarian. Um there are other options. Um and same with their with the choice students as well. They have other they have other options available to them. So, um, from
grade 8 into grade 9, we lost 25 students from our our district cohort and 11 school choices. Um, also I just wanted to mention that um, school choice members here. Um, we have um, I believe three new
kindergarten uh, choice students and those are either siblings or staff um, that are are joining us. And then we have um an increase in fuel choice in grades six and eight and those were either siblings or or staff placements
as well. Um also to give you an update on um the additional seats we opened last spring because I know that was something that we we spent a lot of time having a conversation about. Um we opened two seats in grade seven. Um we received one application and the seat
was declined. So, we do not have any additional students in grade seven for school choice. Um, and then grades nine and 10, we had five spots between um those two grades. We received seven
applications, three students enrolled, three declined seats, um and one was weight listed in the in the lottery um and didn't return the phone call then. So, it was three additional students um in grades nine and 10 for choice
and that's it. And I um the committee gets an update at the beginning of the month um from me as part of our you know usual communication. So happy to answer any questions about
>> our chapter 7 funding you got $104 per student this year >> correct? >> Is that you have any >> Oh gosh. Yeah. Um, we won't know anything in regards to chapter 70. I would say the first time they'll really start talking about it is probably late
February, early March. Um and but then until budgets typically not passed until July um there's a lot of advocacy both from the Mass Association of Schoolies as well as the Mass Association of School Superintendent to um continue
with this number at $104 per student at the very whether that will continue really depends on what the governance budget looks like. Um, one of the things that we're starting to hear is that a lot of our special education schools are looking for
significant increases for the upcoming school year. So, that's something that um, Casey and I were already on um, emails with MASS earlier this week and now that is >> Yes. Um, in some cases
20 to 30% increases. >> Didn't they say that? >> Yes. So we Yes. So they recently got a 14% increase and then the following year they got a 6%. Yeah. >> Where it had always traditionally been 2 to three. Um so that was my email saying wait a minute
we just did this. So um >> so who controls that and they just like like I guess so if if I I run collaborative >> you know whether it's you know Joyce spman's collaborative do I just go to the state and say I want to increase my fee 30% and they say yes or no. So,
there's a couple different ways that they can do this. Uh, one is there's a governing board at the state level. That was that was the board that um approved that 14 and then the six a few years ago. The other way for schools to go about that about this is to um submit an application to the Department of
Education for what they call reconstruction and that is um kind of revising and reframing the way that the school is run and operated. So they do almost like a whole program review within that. Um and
through that process if approved by the department they unfortunately >> and where does that where does that money come from state? >> So um any tuition increases come directly from a district.
So if we have one student somewhere in how much I'm just going to give you some numbers going to make we're paying $83,000 this year and they're increasing next year's tuition to 107 the total increase is on us. Um and then
we have circuit breaker. So the first $55,000 we're responsible for the whole thing and then anything over and above that we get a percentage reed. That percentage reimbursement is fluctuates year after year, year after year. >> There was talk about increasing that
percentage for circuit breaker plus spray. Right. >> Yeah. So that what they want to do is that they want to get it to 85. >> Yeah. >> Um it's currently at 75, but we don't always we're not always guarant. So >> Right. And then
>> we've never got 70. >> We got 75 this year. >> Yeah. So yeah, we were looking to increase to 85. Mhm. >> With But wasn't there going to be like a threshold of you know like no less than this amount like again like you said 75
but we don't always get 75. So like saying that you can't really go below like we'd like to get 85 but we can't go below like wasn't there >> I think I've never seen it below 60. >> So but right we looking to like so there was talk about trying to increase all of
that correct even that six threshing. So I think what they were trying to do is say we would like it to be 85. We want to say it can't go below 75, right? Where unfortunately there are years right now where we do go >> um with both the tuition reimbursement and with the transportation.
>> Okay. Yeah. So um yeah, I was just wondering where everything was with that because that was at the state level. Correct. >> Yes. >> Other questions? Is that it? >> Yes. Thank you. I had a click question. >> I don't know if that's if it's part of this or not, but um is there any update
on reads because there's still we're still >> um so I reached out um last week to kind of check in and see how things are going. Um because we had talked about of this holiday weekend that's coming up um to be kind of the goal after September
was the goal. Um, and unfortunately, one of the biggest challenges that they're having, um, has to do with the building being on 123, which we all know is a state road. Um, so some of the work that needs to be done in order to get things online, requires them digging into 123.
And so unfortunately it's taking me a little bit longer than I think they had hoped to get the approval from the state so that way the local um contractors in um so I think last we had heard it was
maybe closer to Thanksgiving. I just drove by there's like >> I mean there's you can definitely see that they're making progress which is which is great and um you know I thank you to our principles for always and our staff for always being so incredibly
welcoming um and we're making it work and so and so is the staff and I'm sure they just want to be in their own space and establish like this can't it's hard when you're in limbo you know so >> do you think they'll wait until
like the new year come back >> that that hasn't been addressed at this point and I don't want to make assumptions for you. So I I think they're all ready to get into their space but it's unfortunate that question
>> other questions. Um, I was just curious on the out of district enrollment, >> were these the additional five from June to October, were they students that were already in district and you know programming they had to
ask respond to that >> district? Okay. um one at a private um collaborative um and then we had three students that we were had attending for the same evaluation that we're trying to figure out into >> I asked this question last year from
high school from 8th grade to 9th grade generally speaking we usually lose right around 30 is that like a fair >> yeah usually it's 25 to I mean, of course, every class is a little bit different. Like, you have some some years where you see a lot of students go. You have other years where
you see almost no one go. Last year was actually a very low year for us when it came to um loss of students from the middle school to the high school. This year is definitely higher. >> Yep. >> All right. Next we have second reading
and vote on high. >> Thank you. Um so last at our last meeting um Dr. Acriman and Mr. Flang presented you um I think Mr. Cersei was there too. Give him credit. Um presented you all with the um new policy around
competency determination. Um, as we know, last November, um, the state voted to remove the graduation requirement, uh, for passing of the MCAST assessment. And so, because of that, each district is now tasked with determining their own
competency determination requirements. Um, so what we have for you, we we went through the, um, all of this last week. Um and we talked about the aligned courses which are English 9 and 10, algebra 1,
geometry, um introductory physics, bio or chem, and then US history one. Um successful completion of those courses, uh they have to earn the full credits and with a minimum passing grade. Uh we also talked about the consideration for
um our English language learners and our students with disabilities as well as the appeal process and what that would look like if there was concern um about a student not necessarily um meeting that requirement which um includes transcript review, portfolio
assessment um etc. looking at relevant coursework. Um so that is the first um policy there and then the second policy is the graduation requirements and what we did is um we took out any language
around the competency requirement itself. So now that we have our own policy that speaks specifically to competency requirement, um this is simply for graduation. Um a student must learn at least it must earn at least 95
credits um and participate in all state required assessments. Um and then we talked about specific course requirements are printed in the Norton High School handbook. So that way if we make changes in what those courses themselves are, we don't have to come
back and do a two policy read. We can simply update that aspect of the handbook with a vote from the school. Um so I know Mr. Flanigan is here tonight with um Mr. SKI and Dr. Aleman. So we're happy to answer any questions that may still be up there.
>> Otherwise, we need a vote to approve both. >> All right. So let's start with IKEA. We're going to handle these separately. Does anybody have any discussion or talk determination having none
to IKF as presented? >> So second. >> All those in favor. >> Thank you. >> Right. Next is IKF graduation requirements. Is there any discussion on
this policy? >> Motion to second. >> Second. >> Sorry. I got this down my gain for April and then everything right. All
right. Our next item is discussion and vote on Norton Middle School CTE pathway exploration. Dr. Street. Thank you everybody. Um there are there is the actual policy
that's in your packet. I did um Mr. Hayward put together just a few slides so it might be easier to follow but I thought I would just take a minute and give everybody some background. So, in August of uh this past year, with not
much if any notice, um there was a a webinar that we attended and we were told that um we had to create um a middle school CTE pathway exploration policy. And so there's been, you know, a
fair number of webinars, a fair number of back and forth at building level, district level to try and kind of reconcile some of the vagaries of this. But the intent of the policy is really to just provide timely clear information
about CTE programs for for grade eight students. And what you're going to hear tonight a little bit about 98% of the things we probably already do and have been doing for an extended period of time. So this is just a way for us to
formally capture it in a policy. Um to give a little bit of background because we do are not a an exclusive CTI CTE high school, we do not have to place this in the in the school committee um
compendium of policies. this policy can live in the Norton Middle School or any Norton public school program of studies because we're neither a CTE exclusive district and we do not have an exclusive CTE school. So, because there was no
previous requirement, we can capture this here this evening. Um, we also are required if any of our students can attend a CTE school, we just have to make sure that we have language updating what we do, how we do
it, and then sign in at the station on a yearly basis with with DESIE. And so things that we've already done that capture what is required in the policy, we have CTE and pathway
policies. So there's regular discussion, regular exposure to both CTE at the high school and also our innovation pathways. We've historically coordinated visits between the middle school and the high school for these students. And then we do have the option for students that
would find an offering at either South Southeastern Regional or Bristol Aggie. just capturing that we have a process for that really the we have already within our uh program of studies this pathway is
already embedded and codified and that's through guidance program programming and regular communication and as we do already we have to make sure that this information is shared and readily available through multiple channels which is both here and
dovetales with what we've been doing um historically today. And then the the the the stickiest wicket in this policy um was around awareness for CTE providers, more
specifically around the transportation issue because as initially presented, it created perhaps the impression that the sending school would be required to pay for transportation for the visiting students and to coordinate that. The
inverse is actually true. So if uh Southeastern or Bristol Aggie wanted to do some collaboration with us, it would really be under their impetus to to reach out to us to coordinate that time during the school day and they would be
responsible for those costs. Um Desi wanted us to also be clear that as far as the attendance policy, um that any student absence related to a visit was excused. >> So is this for like like an open house or something like that? Like what or is
this like they're taking a class as a middle schooler at like just banging? What is that actually or is like so it's an excused app? Does that mean they're just traveling to like see it for the day? >> Yes. >> Yes. So really it it it's it was
presented as a bit of a lion at first, but between Vinnie, TJ, myself, Ronnie, and um and Vinnie Cersei, we spent a fair amount of time in a number of webinars and asked some very specific questions around this
so that we'd be able to bring clarity to everybody this evening. So I think the last piece is just about maintenance of records. So these are the things we already do and that we're required to do. So on an annual basis we have CTE presentations to our eighth
grade students. We have to make sure that we capture students that participate in those. Um there will be in uh the near future like a formal posting on the website about these options to families around C um CTE and
then on an annual basis we'll have to sign an addestation and submit to DESIE that we're following the policy that we're reviewing with everyone this evening for
so many negative. Yeah. And it really I think this is part and parcel to kind of a more expansive view of public education for the department. Whereas college is a wonderful and desirous track for a large number of
students. It's has never been for all students. So there's intentionality around uh the department making sure that other offerings are available to all students. >> Any questions?
>> Yeah. So what is what is the desi? This is a mandate from desi correct. What is the language that they're telling us to do? Is there like a paragraph that they're saying this is exactly what you have to do? >> It was more than a paragraph. There was
several like deciphering of almost contradictory type stuff whether it's the transportation and things like that. They just want to make sure that our students are aware of the options that they have, have an opportunity to learn about them, that their parents are aware
of it, and then the timeline on which it happens, that it happens in early October, so it's not sprung on them or very, you know, very deep in our website or other things. Um, that we're excusing attendance for these types of visits.
We have I think Thursday uh the 16th the high school's coming down >> to present on the SCT program. Um I think Bristol Egg he's coming in on the 20th and these are things that we typically done. Um and so it's just about that process. So it's making sure
that the the building the systems we have in place are following these things probably for people like me because I want everyone to go to Northern High School. That's just how I am. >> I I work here. I want everyone to continue to Norton High School, but they want to make sure that all middle
schools are offering all the students, no matter what town they live in, access to that. So, it's not like you have me a home want to know a high school versus someone else. So, that >> we do 98%. What is the 2% we don't do?
>> Probably the program of studies, which we're going to update. We actually, it just kind of coincidental is this was sprung on us. We need to update our program of studies here at the middle school one to reflect the budgetary cuts and programmatic changes that occurred. Also, you know, positive things like the
new curriculum program that we started with mid school math and amplify. Uh so we'll move to update that document anyways. Um so we plan to do that. So that would be part of the 2% putting it in there. Um and then also just putting it on our website. Other than that,
maybe some of the timeline things that we were soft on as far as like things happening more towards Thanksgiving around there. So, that would probably be the 2%, but as far as like, you know, it it wasn't that much to do. It's more
just kind of shifting some stuff and notifying. >> So, now that it we were above the curve, if you will, now that it's a state mandate, does it give us any funding to to please? wish they make the out of school transport. >> I wish the answer I wish the answer was
yes, but I think so. So So this goes back to I say this I've said it for three years now. Why do we continue to do mandates state mandates that doesn't come with we've got to find a way to find how to take unfed unfunded mandates
down. It's just another thing that we have to do. Now again I get it for us because we doing 98% of it. We're above the curve. That's great. But there's going to be something that comes down the road that we've never done. And then we're going to have to 100% do it. Now it's going to take more staff, more time. Someone else is going to get
nailed with a a teacher, a professional, a guidance counselor. Someone's going to add more to their plate and there's going to be zero more money coming into us. So again, on a situation like this, it's small, it's minute, it's whatever. But at the end of the day, the state's telling us yet again, you got to do
this. And they give us no backing and no funding for it. And so I mean for for us we do have CTE programs at the high school um and we have the innovative pathways. So um we receive grant funding for those programs there. We want to make sure that if it's something that I
need to sign off yearly that we're doing something small to make sure that we're still getting those grants. That's easy. We can make that happen. Um, but as Brian mentioned when he first started speaking, leave out this information at the very end of August when I'm sorry, but you're not reading your emails that
really at the very end of August because you've got kids coming back. You're still trying to hire staff. It's a constant like revolving wheel of things that you're focused on to educate students and this is due by November 1st, two weeks, >> right? And so it's just unbelievable. So
um MASS um and I know um some of the um building administrator organizations as well are really pushing back on the department and saying like you have to give people time like these timelines are incredibly tight. Um we just approved the other one with the
competency determination. Um that is again something else that took a lot of time from our team to put something together and had a very quick turnaround. Um, and then the Department of Education is going to put together their own recommendation for graduation requirements and hand that to us in
February. So, I mean, we basically just did the leg work for them. So, it's um definitely a a at a frustrational point, I think, for a lot of educators and clearly for, you know, school committee members and and communities. Um,
but >> it's not something I mean, obviously it's great. It's awesome that we've already been doing it. It's just again the bigger picture and the point just the state tells us what to do when we do it and they send us no money to do it. Thanks.
Um well, I mean I I think you know this is one of those things where you would hope you know a public school system is not preventing another high school to come in because I'm sure that's happened and now they can say yeah you're not going to let that happen anymore. I
mean, having put three kids through, you know, the Norton school system, all three were accepted to a competing school and they chose to stay here. Um, so I guess, you know, my other question is we invite these schools in, not
necessarily with open arms, but we invite them in. Are students like do all eighth graders go down or do they say, "Yeah, I want to go check >> on those present on presentations." It's the entire eighth grade goes down and and views the presentation. Um it's not
just sign up for it. So we we expose all of the eighth grade to it as a class. If they then want to follow up, do an application, start that process, go for a visit, they do that on their own. >> And again, this stuff is kind of saying
we won't step in way attendance stuff. Now, most kids don't really have attendance issues where it would matter. They're allowed so many days, but it would be like a kid has a game that day. I have I excuse it. They can go do their visit and play in their sports activity
or if we had a school dance that night. So, it's a full excusal uh if they go to those things almost like a day in school for them wherever they go. >> So, my my other question and I know there was chatter about something
changing with acceptance into you know agricultural schools and things like that and I know I have a friend of mine who they didn't go to their counties soon. So I guess do we have to extend this courtesy to say like Norfor
agricultural school because they may have a different program set than Bristol like do we have to invite them in or is this not part of that as well? >> Um I don't know what um the ones that we're we're part of that we're regionally part of like we communicate
with and >> um and that's been longstanding. I mean, we just have communication with them. Our counselors typically get invited uh in the fall to go over there. So, I'll send our eighth grade counselor somewhere in the policy. It says our eighth grade counselor because we roll
them will be the point person um on that and they'll go out there and kind of get a preview of any updates or changes at the school itself or the programs or the process. There's been big changes to the process. that's moving to like a lottery style system
>> and there's kind of weights and balances on these. You can get extra I guess tickets in the lottery for certain things. So, there's a big change to that which we're still trying to figure out. And when anything operationalizes, that's when you really understand it.
So, it hasn't happened yet. So, it's hard to know, but it is moving more to a lottery. Before it was really based on u you know a lot of transcripts interviews that they would send representatives out and they would conduct interviews. There'd be one or two days where kids would just had passes and they being
interviewed by someone from their district and then we do a lot of recommendation letters. We believe some of that's kind of probably toned down. >> And do we share do we share the dates that they're
coming up with our parents? Because I have a senior so it's been a while since I've been through this but I think with one of my three kids I had no idea they were going process. I didn't know they were coming on site or that they had applied or anything like that. Yeah, >> I guess with part of this we also now
saying we need to include the families if nothing else just like hey is going to be here your kids going >> I know um you know I typically probably put in the newsletter but maybe not a standalone I know as far as NO High School which is a CTE program so for us
as a middle school I'm looking at Southeast and Bristol and Northern High School uh we plan to send out as a standalone the slides presentation um and so on so families can actually see that. I don't know what seeing what the presentation will be from them, but
I'll probably send out the actual slides and because of this I'll probably do it as a standalone just to verify that it was sent and again not buried. But again, probably for guys like me, I want everyone to go to Nor High School to stay.
>> Okay. Anything else? >> I just noticed in the policy, was this all like um purposeful? You had two dates. So one is November 15th and one is October 15th. Was that >> It is because the communication via like
the website or you know a prominent space um the deadline is October 15th. >> Okay. >> And then I think another one with the we weren't sure about the wording of it. It says that we have to um offer something to the sending schools by October 15th.
We're not sure if that means we have to schedule the date or actually have the presentation. So, is it an offer by the 15th to you guys come in on this date or is it you have to have presented by October 15th? That's kind of an early
window to get to. But that was some of the stuff that we weren't sure about >> that. It's like, well, I can offer you something by the 15th. Do you have to present by the 15th? Cuz that's kind of tight at the start of the school year. Yeah, >> considering considering we were made
aware of this probably the August 21st. >> So, sorry now I have a question based on this last question. So, is the expectation that we are um doing this this this fall because it's October 8.
>> Yeah. So I was just wondering >> well I mean we >> we kind of guidance is kind of guidance department here at the middle school kind of following the regular timeline communicated with Bristol Aggie >> they wanted to come on the 20th they're coming on the 20th um with Vinnie and
the high school and TJ they're going to come out on the 16th which is the day after the 15th but again as we looked at that we're like is it just >> I was like I feel like it should all be November 15th like you know But >> I inter I interpreted it as um having a
date on the calendar by the 15th. >> That was that was mine and I even asking because I feel like we asked that question on the webinar and I don't believe that any of the providers >> knew the distinction. >> Sounds like
>> well you were saying Nick uh you know if they don't fund it I guess what's the what's the penalty? What's the ticket? >> How much is the ticket? No, but like with some of the stuff it's like it has to operationalize. So I guess if we put it on there and they
say, "Well, they they say, "Hey, that wasn't done on time." Or they kind of come back and kind of audit our process and look at when did these things occur, then we'll make the correction. But where it's kind of unclear when you we're just trying to do what we
think is normal that October 15th very early to get three different schools in to present. >> Yeah. that are also working to get their off the ground and then if they have to go to other obviously districts that are you know what I mean like they >> that's going to be
>> just the scheduling thing so as we looked at it and like kind of considered those things we said that probably means you have to offer like schedule >> so I guess kind of touching on Justine's question about the dates that do we also
have to be aware that like say early acceptance or Southeastern or Bristol Aggie like does that have any bearing on this like like if they want say the top stu you know 10 students and they want them to you commit by state December 1st
does that have any effect they usually don't do the acceptance to file later they get a lot of middle schools do trimesters like we do they want to look at you know kind of grades from the eighth grade not just seventh grade um and so the acceptance for that is much
later but now that they're moving to a moderate. I don't know if they're going to really have a scale of like the top students that they want. I think it's wise that Norton High School is I mean from my position it's great that they're coming to the school early because a lot
of the open houses not just the uh the vote schools but your um you know uh proial schools and things like that they have private schools >> they they're happening no better. So, it's good that we're getting in that competitive uh window there so we can uh
you know show everyone what North High School has to offer. >> So, what are we officially voting on? We're voting to add this to middle school handbook essentially. >> Program studies. >> Program studies. Sorry. >> Anything else?
>> Right. See, a motion to approve the med school CTE pathway exploration. >> So move session. >> All those in favor? >> I >> All right. Next we have discussion and vote on school delegate for November.
Well, it's everyone's favorite time of year where we discuss um the upcoming joint conference between the fast association of school committees and moc for attendance um which will be held November 12th and 14th. Each year those
school committees have an annual business meeting um and each school committee across the state gets one vote on the issues that they are presenting. Um so only um a school committee that actually um appoints a delegate it
delegate not delegate excuse me um is able to um to vote at the annual meeting. So um I believe Nick was your delegate last year. Um you can send someone, you can appoint someone or you can choose not to go um in partic
>> um the meeting I believe is on on the Friday the 14th at 3:15 p.m. >> Sorry that >> so we're only essentially voting to have somebody join just for the delegate meeting on Friday. not necessarily to
attend the conference. That's >> okay. >> However, you are all able to attend a conference if you like. >> Yeah. >> Last year. >> Did they tell you to say that? >> Actually, the delegate.
Um, is there anyone that would like to be the delegates? I mean, don't like to do it. No. But if I think we should put someone in in the event that something comes up and we need to vote, we should have someone from there. >> I will do it. No one else will do it.
>> Is this the scenario where they send out all the resolutions? >> Um >> it didn't make anything. >> I don't know. Never read them because they never action quite frankly. They always have good ideas but just no
action goes on standard. The meetings are the most disorganized thing I've ever seen in my entire life. >> Uh so Nick, you would be reluctantly interested to be a delegate. >> All right. So entertaining a motion to
appoint Nick Schlaker as a delegate for the MASC annual business meeting. Second. >> All those in favor? I something has been Uh, was there anybody interested in
being involved? >> I could go to college. >> Um, I mean, do you need an alter? >> There are some school committee to fight over this that they want to feel bad. Put it out there. very excited. >> No, I I didn't know if we needed one. If
we needed one, I would do it, but we don't need one here. >> All right. Uh then we not have a hotel yet. So, we move on to the next item is building project update for our lovely middle school roof. Um so earlier this
week um we had um some conversations with MSBA and with our um OPM and the designer um architect for the schematic design and we have decided to pull the roof off um repair off the warrant for
this fall town meeting which is taking place in just a few days. Um the reason for that is that we need a little bit more information and a little bit more time um to really look at the um differences between restoration of the Norton Mill School roof or full
replacement. Um there is not a significant difference. Oh, I mean when you're talking about 10 million, 10 million, 12 million, I mean at that point um we want to make sure that whatever we're doing, we're doing it right. Um, Norton Middle School has had significant issues with the roof since
the day it opened in 1998. Um, and um, I know we have a lot of staff members here tonight from the Norton Middle School that can attest to, um, how nice and soggy it can be from time to time. Um, I don't think anyone is debating on the fact that it needs to
be done. Whether you look at school committee, you look at the select board, you look at science committing, this is a project that has to unfortunately I don't believe we have the positive votes for us to get it um passed at town meeting due to a couple different
issues, mainly cost and the um aspect of restoration. So, what we're going what we're doing is we are filing an extension with the MSBA um to instead of having it go to the October
um instead of our documents being due at the end of this month, they will now be due at the end of December for approval at the board meeting on February 25th. Once it's approved on February 25th, we have 90 days to get it approved at town
meeting. So, it's a tight site because typically um Springtown meeting is at the end of or middle of May. Um they are willing to work with us if it's like 92 days, 95 days, something like that. So, um I just wanted to give you all an
update. Christine and Wade and I met with our um OPM and architects yesterday. Um, so we're we're continuing to work really closely with them, spending a lot of time talking about exactly what this is
going to look like. Um, I just want to give you all that update. >> Um, am I correct that for an article to be pulled, but it has to be voted on? >> Oh, I think I I believe it needs to be correct. >> Somebody can't vote on it. >> Can't vote on it because it's not on the agenda. Yes,
>> we can do it before town meeting on the 20th, right? I believe I believe it needs to be. All right. Thank you. I pause or don't >> um while we're all here and talking about this, can we what? So, filing the extension by the end of the
but the end of December. >> So, the well we have to file for the extension this week. >> Okay. >> Um and which would mean the documents would be due by December 18th. So, we would need to continue to have conversations and meet. We would need to have them come back out to us, present
the present what a full replacement would look like just so they can even present to the restoration. Um, and we would need to say like we're going to go in this direction or we're going to go in this direction because you can't submit both the restoration and replacement to the
MSBA. We need to make a decision. So, we've got roughly two and a half months, two months to do that. >> It be a joint meeting. >> Uh, no. So it would be for for you as a committee to decide which direction you
want to go in. Um what we'll do is we'll um ask to be put on a finance committee agenda once we have more information on what this is going to look like. Um we're going to be reaching out to the permanent building committee and getting in front of them once we have a little
bit more information um as well. And if the select board um it's always good to have them um you know behind something so we'll have to be placed on that agenda there as well. So I would say um it probably wouldn't happen till mid mid
November for us to go in front of the select board of the finance committee. You need to get in front of the permanent building committee earlier than that. So when we file the extension by 1218, >> it will be decided on by MSBA on 225.
>> Correct. >> We have to in 90 days 25. >> Yes. >> Within 90 days prove that we have fun. >> Correct. >> So you need to have an affirmative vote at town meeting within 90 days. >> Okay. So here's my thought >> because I think we're going to go right
down. This is my personal opinion. We're going to go right down the same path we just went down if we don't come up with a better plan. >> What I mean by that is what we just did, we just voted as a school committee put this forward. Finom and Slackboard basically crushed it and
said they're not going to support it in >> not probably those those words but basically basically in this current state saying they're not going to support this which would have meant we would have had to go on fall town meeting and try to convince the voters that this is what we need to do and this is the best >> plan going forward
>> on our own little island with no final support. That's what we call that on arrival that's not going to make it through the voters. So if we all to me what we're doing right now is we're going to file extension get a little bit more information sure blah blah blah and then we're going to do the exact same thing
come April we're going to go to town meeting granted maybe we'll bring in select board and finally I also think you need to present a little bit more publicly in terms of this is what's going on with middle school group this is why these things need to happen >> but my concern this is my concern and
why I voted no a few weeks ago this is not going going to pass a town meeting. And this is why I think it's not going to pass that town meeting. Where is the money coming from? So I I I see a lot of teachers out here right now. >> If you told me I'm a teacher and I got
to sit in the town meeting and vote on a roof, but it could cost me 20, 30, 40 members again because the town doesn't have the money. They don't have $4 million sitting around to try to go ahead and do this roof. To me, by doing it at a town meeting means you have to
borrow the money. you're borrowing the money from your own selves. So, we're either going to cut other departments or we're going to cut our own operating budget. That is a bad bad thing to do. We've just done that a few times with all the projects that we've done. So, my suggestion here would be to yes, get the
extension. We need more time. We need to bring in permanent building committee select board sooner than later. Get everybody on the state is the right thing to do because Florida is a dentist. Then you're not pulling from the operating function. They're pulling from the tax base. It might be a hard
cell. However, most people I don't think I have not heard one person disagree that we need a roof over here. So, I think if you put this vote towards the taxpayers, they're going to sit there and say, "Jesus, middle school roofs." They think this isn't something that it's uh you know, we want to add 25
computers and do this, that, and the other thing. It's well, the rules to keep the building. We need to we need to have this to keep the building open to keep our teachers and our kids safe. >> I mean, am I wrong? I'm sorry. I didn't >> I just I feel like that was kind of what was advised by uh finance committee when
we went to that meeting last week and I I was into the oppression or felt as if that was kind of the idea or the direction that we were going to be investigating and looking into as part of the reason why we weren't extending. So, not just the difference of restoration versus replacement, but also
discussing more of that that pathway. And I think that's part of the bigger picture of what we were going to be looking at over the next couple months. I could be wrong. >> I think by by doing it >> in its current state, I think we kind of reversed order. >> Yes. You know, like we we talked about
this project and, you know, we didn't have, you know, the necessary information on where the payment was coming from, which is now again file an extension, talk to the finance committee and select board who control the budget
and then control the debt exclusion and all those terms. And we don't control any of that. We just essentially we're saying we need a new roof but >> and we need a better idea of what those numbers look like before we go and we say hey it's going to be x amount of dollars
but ultimately it's the school as the school committee and the administrative team it's not our decision where that money is going to come from. So we do need to deal with them and to say like hey what is going to happen here because we also need the vote. You need you need a
vote at town meeting and you need a ballot. >> We need both. >> Well then why why do you need >> you need voting at town meeting but you need you don't need the ballot for the exclusion for >> tax. Right. That's my right. That's what I'm saying. So for a debt exclusion we
need the vote. Yeah we need both. The other thing is too is we can also do is like obviously by pushing this back now we're not looking for a roof until September same summer of 27. So that's another concern naturally because now we're going to have to dump in more money to get whatever we have right now leaking somewhat under control for a
band-aid on a bullet hole like you keep saying which is completely true. How much is that going to cost us? So I don't know if pushing it back to town meeting in April is really the solution. I think we really need to get our hands around this and getting meetings sooner
sooner than later. Get the town manager involved, the planning the um permanent building committee involved and really look at what is our next step because we could always call a special town meeting in January as well, >> right? >> And then you could get a vote right there. Boom. Get it on the ballot for April if you wanted to. You could push
it back. You could there's a lot of options there that you could actually might be able to not wait till April to get a vote. You might be able to do it in January. Then you never know. You might get a contractor who's like, "Hey, I can do this something for three months or two months." >> All of those options are open to us. We
just need to have the money allocated within those 90 days. So, however we want to do this as a town, all of those are on the table. We just need >> Do you know what? >> Totally totally understand. But I think >> we're saying the same. >> Yes. Correct. Buy in Correct. Correct.
We need the buy in. >> We need to approve. We all need to be on the same page. and and we need a direct message that's going to the taxpayers that has support from select board school committee. This is the way to do it. This is what we think
is the best option. And I can almost guarantee you that would probably be approved. If we do it in pieces and parts, school committee's here, FINCOM's here, permit building is not involved. Select board is not supporting. It's going to be a very hard sell for us and Jen sitting on town meeting floor. So, I
just feel like if we can do this sooner than later, get a meeting, might still have a shot to get this done. Summer of 2016. Is it a long stretch? Sure. But I I do think it would be somewhat possible if if we get moving. If we if we wait and we're just going to wait on the
deadlines and get it in by February and blah blah blah. Who knows? >> Well, I think February is the MS isn't February isn't March. >> About 12. So, we have to submit all of our documentation to them by 12:18 and
then they have two months to review everything and then their actual meeting would be February 25th and essentially we would still have time after their meeting with your option, you know, if we have to, you know, put it on the April bound
or something like that. So, so the timelines we're talking about for December and February are not ours. That's just to get everything for them. So, we would still essentially have six months to get everything squared away. >> Have you talked to permanent building committee? When's their meeting?
>> Um, I emailed the chair and let him know what the plan was. >> So, it's the next permanent building meeting is October 29th, which is actually also listed as >> Yeah. So, same time.
>> You're excused. You're >> crazy. He places it once. It's very difficult, but I guess y >> Well, we we can look at the agenda and see what's on it for that meeting and perhaps
>> we divide and conquer >> or we >> or we can try to bump and bump to the town meeting one and bump to the next one too. >> Yeah. >> Well, I mean again this to me seven that night instead of six. This is a top priority at this point. >> All right, let me uh look at the agenda.
>> I think we are supposed to understand. >> Yeah. Anything else on the room? >> And then JCS and then the December one is actually back here because um you switch the dates around and >> they're not available. Meeting room is
not available. >> So could we bump? >> Yeah. And then do like so December 10th would be JCS that Yeah. You know what I mean? >> Yeah. So instead of coming back to the middle school Yes. We'll we'll see if
we'll see if the room is available um on the 29th p.m. >> because I don't know where permanent building committee meets. >> I have to go back. >> Yeah, it might be here. I have to go back and look. All right, hold on. We'll connect and figure that out. I just knew the date and the time because I was
like, "Oh, does work." All right. Anything else on top? Uh any other business? Not interested. And a motion to journal.