of Michael is it mayor or may Michael Mayor as Constable um and he's been Constable for six or seven years I think all right make a motion to appoint Michael Mayor senior as conable second we have a motion in a second any further discussion all in favor I any opposed okay and then Mike I'll let you comment a little bit on this one because this is a kind of a important one um the appointment of PA d as planning and economic development director so um after a lengthy time about a planning and economic development director um Paul dppi um is going to come back to Norton U with a start date of April 16th so we're glad to uh have him back in the position and uh look forward to things moving forward and on planning cour great news any questions on that appointment I think it's great he's already familiar with the town yeah I think I'm sorry Paul did a fantastic job when he was here we um sad to lose them when he had to leave but um unless there's more comments i' happily make the um make the motion to appoint PA DPI as the planning director um with a St effect of April 16th 2024 I'm sorry planning and economic development director second okay I have a motion and a second any further discussion okay all in favor I I any opposed all right congratulations to Paul and welcome back um so um we don't have any minutes to approve on the licenses and permits yeah go ahead the first one can you wait until you the others because he's trying to log on and he doesn't really need to be on okay so you want me to slow down that's what you're all right okay so we'll skip to the second item which is a discussion and or vote to approve this um the special event application for Ragnar events um and I think Tammy hersel is Tammy is on is on online okay hi how are you thank you for having me hi Tammy um so maybe you could just um just kind of give everybody just a quick overview of uh what this event is and um what the application is uh is for of course um so um my name is Kim herel I'm a r director for Ragnar events um we host um overnight running relays um across the country and um the one that we have coming up on May 17th and 18th um runs through New England we actually start in gr Connecticut and then run through Rhode Island um finishing up at sponton Point Park in priny Massachusetts um we have been working with um and we this is I I believe the third year so this is the first year that I am um in charge of this event but um we've been in the New England area for um this will be our third year and um we have been working with Norton Middle School to serve as one of our major exchange points as well as the gym at Norton um to serve as a minor exchange point where um everyone that we've been working with so far both those solic have been amazing um we actually hosted um an activation kind of to talk to gym members at the gym at Norton um during a recent like Horse Drive in February um but it's it's essentially like they're teams are 12 they are kind of Le frogging one like one Runner runs you know we like 57 miles and then they drop that run they pick that runner up and drop drop off another and then they continue like that um you know relay style um across 200 miles um we are projected to be in the Norton area between around 10: p.m. um Friday evening through about 6: am on Saturday morning okay all right and we've had this event like I think she I think um she mentioned for three years we've had we haven't had any issues or anything so it's great sounds like a great event does anybody have um any questions um for Tammy on the what time did you say you you get to the area on Friday evening um so Friday evening we will be um running into the area around 10 p.m and then the runners run all it's it's overnight so they will be running um from 10: p.m. till about 6:00 a.m. um we might we'll have porta potties dropped off at the school like earlier in the evening but after dismissal um and we have been working with the gym to stay open and allow their locker rooms to be available to Runners um for facilities as well as the juice bar I think they normally close at 8 but they're going to have a staff member stay open a little bit later so that we can can accommodate some of our Runners like who might need just a protein boost at the at the juice bar at the gym um and if I I believe I submitted um like projected route information as well um if anybody had any questions about the route like I'm I'm in Florida so um I might trip up on some Road names as I'm still kind of familiarizing myself with the the specifics of the intersections of the roadways and whatnot but um everyone what I've had questions about you know the area and what not has helpful I believe we're primarily on side throughout all great thank [Music] you any other questions or comments concerns um okay then I will uh entertain a motion to uh vote to approve the special events application of Ragnar events LLC for the Ragnar relay New England from 10 p.m. Friday May 17th 2024 to 6:00 a.m. Saturday May 18th 2024 so mov okay um have a motion in a second any further discussion all in favor I any oppos all right Tammy you're all set go back to your probably beautiful weather in Florida thank you so much I'll see you guys soon take care thank you all right and um we could probably get this other one out too the um on now oh we want to do him all right we can do actually we'll do these two we'll do these two and then we'll do the public ER okay all right so um first up is a vote to approve the special events parking permit for uh Shane bretti for 36 parking spaces at 260 Mansfield Al from May 1st to October 1st 2024 so Shane are you there yes I am okay um do you want to just kind of give us the the quick overview and and um uh some background please I just looking to renew my parking permit that we've been doing parking now for oh almost 40 years I think when the uh Great Woods first opened back in about 1986 we started a few years after that me and my grandfather and now I'm just looking to do our usual thing of VI okay does anybody have any questions for Shane no and this this signed off by everybody and all that kind of stuff just because I know he submitted a plan of the parking as he does every year and okay so in the packet it wasn't signed off yet by 47 right just going to say we should make it contingent upon right yeah okay all right we we'll do that all right so I just question there was something added about a special provision by the police department do you guys see anything about that what that in did you hear anything about that there's one of the notes that was listed on the new online portal but I had to do the permit through hold on we're checking Shane hang on thank you I don't see anything I just saw that it was pending the police or it says active um there's nothing else approve pending special provision Police Department I didn't understand what that meant I think it needs Chief Clark just sign off on I think um it's the standard whatever they did we'll I'll get it for you tomorrow what he's looking for but I would imagine it's uh go ahead Deputy Rob uh Shane right Shane I deputy Chief Robins I believe that it's I'm assuming that it's probably the um the parking plan layout the provisions whether or not you may need a detail officer for certain events um that that standard that you have to do every year potentially if you saw something on a chat it it may be an internal chat on the uh the permitting system and that might be why the select board and the town manager can't see that all right all right so what we're going to do is we're just going to approve the um uh the application chain with the contingent that it's um on contingent on the uh police department final sign off thank you all right all right I will make a motion to approve the special events parking permit application of Shane corvetti of 36 parking spaces at 26 Mansfield a from May 1st 2024 to October 1st 2024 contingent on approv by the police department second okay um we have a motion on a second any further discussion all in favor I any opposed okay all right Shane you're all set thank you appreciate you guys all right thank you happy Easter all right and then um the last one we'll do is um the change of hours for albertto yes um so you want to come up and just let us know what the request is for please and introduce yourself of course hi guys my name is oses now I'm owner of and I we just like to send the the hours to 1:00 and uh just and what are you open to now till till midnight no till 10: till 10: yeah all right yeah so okay and is this how many days a week we're going to be open until 1 a.m. uh no actually we not open to 1 just like sometime now we open to 9: go to 10 but um sometimes we just sub to 10 and some people stay in the bar little later than that so we like to send the hours normal yeah all right anybody have any other questions yes Peter wiggin Marin and I love Albertos and I love their food and love their people there yeah they yes they the're great people and we happy to serve n and I'm happy than anybody anybody else so so that's like making Timmy mcy proud yeah exactly he was just want to make everybody happy and get more people in all right does anybody have any other questions I just understand that so that's going to be open till one every day or just no um we we the N is going to be open till 10: but I don't know why was only to the license stay open to 10:00 yeah and like normal everybody have to 1:00 and the Tom just apply right go so you're just updating the license because if you do stay open till one or you can't because the license says you have to gotta okay all right so are you planning to change the hours to one or you you're not you're going to keep it at 10 gotcha okay all right okay all right okay just the one who people out yes yes yeah all right all right okay any further questions all right I'll entertain a motion then to um approve the application for change of hours of operation regarding Alberto's Pizza and Pub located at 241 Mansfield Avenue so my only comment is this one I think is contined upon police approval as well same same yeah okay so I make a motion to approve the application for the change of hours of operation regarding aler Pizza and Pub Inc located at 241 Mansfield Avenue Mass um second okay any further discussion all in favor I any oppos all right thank you all thank you all right and now I will take a motion to open the uh uh I'll entertain a motion to open the public hearing on the application of Alum us Incorporated to amend its current license for above ground and warehouse storage of flammable liquids is required for Massachusetts fire code 527 CMR one as amended for flammable liquid storage greater than 10,000 gallons the property located at 20 Commerce Way nor Mass and identified on aor map 25 parcel 84 so moved second okay in favor I I any opposed okay all right so um I wanted to have uh Melissa Rulo did I get that right you did perfectly thank you uh so Melissa if you would come up and just kind of give us the um uh the overview we have uh all the paperwork and everything in our our agenda packet so just kind of give us the um the overview that'd be great thank you very much really appreciate it thank you select board for putting us on your agenda for today um I will introduce myself Melissa Rulo I am the senior director of manufacturing at Al nland Pharmaceuticals uh based in the site at Norton um 20 Commerce Way as was just mentioned uh been with the company for just under 5 years I have a number of my colleagues um with me as well from ELO so thanks guys we actually have one um Al employee who is a norn resident here Chris Hughes um and as was mentioned earlier we're here to discuss um an amendment of our application for license for storing flammable chemicals at our site that is in the industrial park um near the to Town Line in uh in Norton I want to give a brief overview of the company um for those of you who may not be familiar with Al Pharmaceuticals I am respectful of your time I don't want to take too long so I'll try to move pretty quickly through this presentation but if there are any questions please feel free to stop me and ask I'll also give a brief overview of the manufacturing operation in Norton and and talk a little bit about what we do there and then we'll get into the heart of the matter with the um Amendment for the flamable license so Al nyum Pharmaceuticals is a global pharmaceutical company it has been in business for more than 20 years was founded and is headquartered in Massachusetts our corporate offices are in Cambridge in the kendle square area we do have more than 2,000 employees world worldwide and we have a portfolio of products we have a number of commercial products that are approved by the FDA and other International regulatory agencies in addition to that we have a very healthy clinical pipeline where we're developing a number of drugs for treatment of diseases all of these drug products that we're working on whether they're approved or are in development are based on SI small interfering RNA technology oligonucleotides it's based on Nobel prize winning technology and the process for manufacturing the active ingredient in these drugs is a chemical synthesis process that requires use of solvents and flammable chemicals moving on to our next slide page five a very high level overview of the complex supply chain that is required for pharmaceutical production the Norton plant is depicted here at the beginning of that supply chain we manufacture the active ingredient in Norton for clinical programs we're not doing commercial production in the Norton plant Al nyum has been um working with the town for a number of years the site at Commerce Way was selected in 2015 predating me joining the company and we produced our first batch in 2020 during Co it was pretty challenging but we've done it we've got a great team in Norton and the company is making a lot of investments in that site to talk a little bit more specifically about the site moving on to slide seven we have a photograph of the front of our beautiful building at 20 Commerce Way in the middle of that photograph you can see train one which is the part of the building where we're currently operational and again the current process does use flammable chemicals for which we have an existing license in addition we have room to grow our business there's a shell space shown on the photograph to the left where we have train two we have an existing flamable Warehouse which we'll show in an overhead plan diagram later on in the slides I'm not going to read all the details of the slides here but I did want to mention that we have expanded since we opened um since we've made our first batch in 2020 uh we're doing 7 day a week manufacturing operations two shifts of manufacturing and we have 247 security at the building and a 247 presence of our facilities team at the bottom you can see photographs of our dedicated and diverse Workforce again there's Chris Chris is every here we're really proud to be recognized as the Boston globe's one of the Boston globe's top places to work in uh multiple years um we do have multiple um Norton residents employed at the site and we really care about the work that we do there and the patients who can benefit from the medicines that we produce and we care a lot about the community that we're part of on the next slide we have a couple of highlights examples of our community outreach for those of you who are familiar with the cover of kindness we have a very strong relationship there we send people there at least once a month to help with unloading chuncks um you may have seen in the Sun Chronicle back in December that there is a Habitat for Humanity project we are a corporate sponsor for that project we actually have a number of folks going May 16th and 18th to help with that house build we have an annual corporate community service day where employees have donated a number of their hours for community service and we're very engaged with the community I personally have been to a number of programs at the Norton public schools for stem careers um we've been to Bridgewater State University and we're looking forward to some future opportunities with Wheaten college so that's a little background about the company and about the site in Norton moving on to the heart of the matter why are we here today as I mentioned we are actively manufacturing and to support that we have a license for storing flammable chemicals at the site we have built an ex built out in an existing space additional storage space for additional flammable storage so if you look at this overhead plan view the warehouse space is sort of in the top left in that light blue rectangle there's an existing room there it's not called out specifically where [Applause] [Music] one and we want to enable the potential for future expansion at the site so to that end we have applied for an amended license which has been submitted it's been reviewed and approved by Norton fire chief we do have a binder a hard copy I'm not sure where that is um that has the details of the application we have identified the abutters and the have notified them and the design and the asilt condition of this flamable storage warehouse space has been evaluated by Jensen Hughes which is an engineering and consulting firm that specializes in safety and we have representatives from Jess and Hughes here tonight with us hello my name is t glumac I'm a reg fire protection engineer I live in Massachusetts I've been in the fire protection industry for about 18 years and have worked on the design of facilities that are similar to Elm Island at the request of the norn fire department we were brought on Jensen Hugh was brought on to evaluate this facility for the purposes of this license Amendment um just a little more background talking about what we discovered uh the site was constructed as three distinct buildings that are separated by firewalls all the buildings are protected by automatic sprinklers that are supplied by an onsite Firewater storage tank and two fire pumps the first is primary and the second is backup for redundancy there's also an on-site Firewater containment tank that would capture any sprinkler water that would be discharged during a fire scenario we reviewed designed documents for the facility we conducted a slite survey and we concluded that the facility is provided with the code required protections that are needed for the storage and use of the hazardous materials that are detailed on the license Amendment so we walked through all of the areas where the Hazardous Materials would be and we the protections and sign up I'll leave it that unless you have questions for me specifically I just wanted to clarify you use assessability um safety correct not lick bills and like that both actually so the building code and fire code have different protections required depending on storage or use depending on whether it's flammable or corrosive and we looked at the specific chemicals that were in each space What protections would be required and found that they were provided so part of that is Spill containment so when you have large quantities of hazardous materials you need to prepare to contain both the hazardous materials and the sprinkler runoff and so that's what the fire water contain take us for at this facility thank you thank you any other questions for me do you guys have any other questions for Melissa just one questions 30% increase in chemicals is that correct um I don't know the number off the top of my head it's in the attachment in the amendment just roughly trying to C up in my head 30 something okay any other questions all right um okay thank you thanks so much um we will um open this up to any comments from anyone in the public who might be here any Butters or anything no okay um and oh Melissa Qui question for you did you did you um did you get any concerns from the abuts directly to you or has it been relatively quiet nothing directly to me um I don't know that public relations you have corporate public relations group they have not reached out to me either um so as far as I know noters have raised any concerns of any kind okay all right thank you okay any other questions maybe one I just thought of go ahead yeah the existing site was it built to handle um this amount of expenditure or will there be other containment expansion and whatnot so the the facility was designed with this expansion in mind so the three distinct building portions that are there the third one is this flamable warehouse and the containment for a site needs to be designed for the worst ke scenario so it's designed for a single event and this flamable storage Warehouse the both sprinkler design and what stored inside would be considered the worst case and the containment is designed for that so it was already designed for it and fire chief has already gone through it 100% do you want to come up so I I didn't mean to skip over you no no believe me I'm not insulted um as you heard already they uh they pretty much touched on everything when the the building is originally built they Supply their plans everything like that they have their Engineers do it then back in you know it's after 2015 2018 2019 we have a third party again come in review it to make sure that that everything their engineer says is what we agree with and that third party in a sense represents us now we've had them go and do it again this time they've hired Jensen Hughes they've come back with the same thing that they can they can they have the space to to do these chemicals they have the containment process with the permitting Chris gets to deal with me a lot or I get to deal with him I'm not sure which is best but um we also have um extensive training that they do with us that's required by their perm renewal every year with the department and stuff like that so we go in we go through and and see some of the things like that again they have they have um an emergency action team that Chris gets to be part of among some of these other guys um that come out immediately if there is you know an issue or anything like that they also have um another third party vendor on site that that can help them with with hazardous materials and stuff that when they're trained with that so at this point they're up to to all code and and requirements like that as we see it and we don't have any issue with it okay great anybody have any questions for the deputy chief right all I all right awesome thank you do have one more question for Mr Unix yeah is there any kind of security um that we have like we've used before in the past for building in case b buildings abandoned this chemical or some kind of disaster that you have some kind of security Bond I don't know if there is a security Bond on the property I don't think so these guys also have to be strict FDA requirements for for producing what they produce and they're held under EPA and D standards and stuff like that so it's not they can't really just go so to speak belly up and and abandon the property um without us being notified or anything like that okay okay all right um okay if we have no other comments or questions um I think we have to close the public hearing then then we take a vote correct yeah I'll motion to close the public here all right we have a motion in a second all in favor I I any opposed okay and then um I will uh entertain a motion to approve the application of Alum us Incorporated to amend its current license for above ground and warehouse storage of flammable liquids as required for her Massachusetts fire code for flammable liquid storage greater than 10,000 gallons at the property located at 20 Commerce Way Mor identified as assessor map 25 parcel 84 so moved second okay we have a motion and a second any further discussion all in favor I any opposed okay all right thank you you very much yeah thank you for coming thanks for everybody from m Island for coming appreciate it um and good luck with the expansion thank you very much appreciate good luck all right so well um just in case I I didn't mean to skip over announcements does anybody have any we didn't have any listed in the agenda but does have anybody have any recent announcements that couldn't have possibly been on the agenda I do okay good uh I want to uh make mention of the passing of Anthony madas um at 102 years of age uh nonresident Navy veteran uh he passed away March 23d at Life Care Center in Rainham uh he was a member of the BFW he let's see his funerals are upcoming Wednesday we to B yeah wow yep 102 years old y so God bless him um and also oh Sergeant Kevin schleker had of the Norton police department is graduated as a member of the 289th session of the FBI National Academy uh the graduation took place at the National Academy in corico Virginia on March 15th Sergeant sler is the fifth officer in Department history complet to complete this uh prestigious program nationally fewer than 1% of officers have the opportunity to attend this program so that's awesome congratulations to to uh Sergeant Kevin Scher congs awesome all right thank you Alec anybody else have any other announcements um I just have one just we might as well put it out there there's an election coming up so we'll try to get it as much publicity as possible uh so the town election will be on April 27th um at the middle school between the hours of 8:00 a.m. and 5:00 p.m. didn't we just do this last year all right I feel like it was like a snap of the fingers and absentee ballots available I'm not sure we we'll have we'll have Lucia come in and give us an update as as we get closer but um um yeah so go vote all right um next up is um discussion or vote on the uh sidewalk recommendation from the uh Traffic Safety Committee I want I don't think anyone need it from the Traffic Safety Committee I think what they're looking for is um the support of the board of are you both yeah we're just looking for the support I don't know if we necessarily need to vote on this but um the concern is if we try to add that sidewalk portion on then it might delay the project and we don't want to do that so we want to see if it's possible to reach out and say don't stop the project but can we add this to it without stopping it I I'll talk to the engineer and I'll talk to Sur on that yeah I mean it makes total sense right if you're going to do all that work you might as well have the sidewalk connected yeah nobody knows why that wasn't included initially yeah say I thought as part ofate projects they had to have sidewalk included they they only make us do that yeah and only sometimes okay yeah so yeah I think um straw pole seems to indicate that like yeah if we could see if we could do that without jeopardizing the timing that'd be great okay all right um next up is uh review discuss and vote on annual and special town meeting articles well I just wanted to see if you wanted to vote on some of the annual town meeting articles the finance committee did vote on a few of them the other night um the finance committe voted on chapter 90 um authorizing time to expend any funds that received under the chapter 90 program um and that was recommended by the finance committee that's article two um I will entertain a motion I say yes let's start let start this process um I'll entertain a motion to um recommend article two for the annual T meeting War can you clarify what chapter 90 is go ahead um chapter 90 is um the program from the State any work that um we do uh Improvement on roadways um we do the work and then the highway superintendent will submit um an application to the state for payment for work that we do our allotment this year is 500 556 do you have it yeah I saw 556 or something it's basically the same as um the the pool the total pool hasn't really increased over the years and um it's adjusted by population and our population didn't go up that much last year it's road miles population employment in town so we kind of stayed the same as last year because our population went up very little compared to other communities okay and so this is just clear is this to take the money that received from the state and put it into the general fund is that no um any work that Highway does they submit like an invoice to the mass Highway and they get we get reimbursed far those the Articles to submit it to receive it I think it's just to participate in the pram okay yeah yeah to be able to request and to accept it it's $546,500 I just found out to all right all right um any other questions all right so um thank you Denise any other so um I again entertain a motion to recommend article two uh at the annual town meeting so I have a second second okay all in favor I I oppos okay now the next article is article three and the finance committee voted to recommend article three um this is seeking $31,000 from free cash uh for tree services so this is for tree work that needs to be done their wires or trees that are two large for the highway department to take down and this has been something they've been doing for a couple years now um and the finance committee voting inly to recommend any questions is this a pretty consistent amount that we've used in the past yes so this is is this above and beyond sort of what because National Grid does its own sort of treaty work as well so this is sort of above and beyond what they'll do okay all right okay I'll take a motion to recommend article three for ourn town meeting second Motion in second all in favor I I anyos okay and the next article is article 11 this is to reauthorize um revolving funds that we have and uh the funds that we have right now are um 237 man fail to have the wend Jackson Property resolving fund and the maximum spending limit in the year out of that is 60,000 um the forestry revolving fun the maximum spending limit of 30,000 uh home home hosting bin distribution program revolving fund with a spending limit of 2,000 um recycling revolving fund spending limit with a request of 20,000 um that um is being increased from 10,000 was the maximum they could spend but uh I guess because the program is Suess where people come down to the highway department and bring um items down there and pay to have deposit those items which that money goes into the revolving fund and then this would take money out of the revolving fund up to a maximum of 20,000 a year to pay companies to take that those items away someone said isn't this similar to that article that we given um to dis dispose of uh the stuff they pick up on the side of the road I said no this is actually to get rid of the stuff that legitimate people actually pay for a deposit at the highway department um the next one is uh certified hazardous materials technician revolving fund with a spending limit of 10,000 Council on Aging revolving fund um spending limit was um we want to go to 15,000 I believe it was 10,000 before that's what I have 10 yeah and um this is a fund uh storm water bylaw revolving fund maximum spending Lim of 100,000 there's no money in this account and I I want to review this with the planning board um this was set up with the intent when a subdivision comes in nowadays um they're required to put in detention areas and we're stock maintaining those detention areas once we maintain the roads so this would be to developer comes inead and put some money into this fund so if there is maintenance required year after year like that or usually is would have a fund to take that money out rather than using our project and then uh campy the three has a spending limit of 60,000 so there's only two that have changed the rest are standard and the finance committee V Ved manly so like just so I understand this is all money that these different um I guess areas receive money in and this is what they can spend the one that doesn't have money received in is the storm water yes um and so what do they use the money for go back where does it go where does money go they're using different funds yeah so um like uh the Mansfield La property um if we have to do any work on the house itself root say we had to do uh roof repairs or um any other structural improvements to the house or repairs this money would be used for that um then like um the which was the other one um a forestry revolving fund so once in a while um they have forestry companies come in and clear some of the trees um in the town forest and they pay they pay for that and so that money would go into this fund whoever's get getting the lumber would pay to take those trees out and this money would be used for anything else they have to do in the Town Forest on Trails or things like that can we make that much money or any year um I don't know the last time someone was out there the forestry farm right now um only has a th $1,400 in it so they can't spend little they've taken in anyway right just if they had the money they could spend up to them right yeah this is just an authorizing up to a certain am the one with the most money in it right now is the Jackson Property uh the Balan is $551,000 but they can't spend more than 60,000 a year so gotta and just to emphasize again that Highway recycling if anyone in town has things they have to get rid of check out the uh Highway Department website the days they're open and uh it's a great great program to be able to get rid of things yeah okay all right great any other questions all right I will entertain a motion to recommend article 11 for the annual town meeting second all right all in favor I oppos all right the other two articles that uh 27 and 28 um opep and stabilization the finance committee fig there's not going to be any money to put in oped stabilization in May so why don't we just remove them from the warrant to make it easier so if the board uh votes to uh remove those two offs we'll pull those off the supped to sit together we could why not I will make a motion to remove article 27 opep funding and Article 28 stabilization F okay we have a motion on a second any further discussion all in favor I any oppos all right that's all they dealt with okay I think it makes sense to wait for their recommendation [Music] okay okay next up is the oh I don't have any topics not reason to we anticipated anybody else on all right um then moving on to the budget update everything's fine everything's fine with the Budget moving on I gave you tonight um so at the finance committee the other night um I just mentioned that the superintendent myself were kind of looking for some direction from the finance Comm what they'd be willing to use for Revenue funding and uh Finance made it pretty clear they don't want to use stabilization and they asked me what would what would that do to budgets I said well that leaves us with one 1% and they said well that's what you got to do so okay uh the budget um I still have 36,000 that c out of our so almost there but I gave you a draft to see where we are right now and I did meet with all the department heads today um to go over all the cups um and though they're disappointed they're understanding and I asked them to go through all those cuts make sure that uh there's nothing that's cut that would prevent them from doing what they're supposed to be doing prevent them from doing their work um and uh they're going to do that and I told them I still have 36,000 to go so if you can think of some things that you don't necessarily that even though you a cut if there's something there that you really don't think you need you know that can you willing to uh do away with before I have to cut some more although the and we'll see what happens with that and the you know one other option is to uh right now reduce um The Reserve fund of think on reserve fund by 36,000 but we'll uh we'll see what we can F before then and then go forward okay all right there anybody have any questions on I mean I know we have a lot of questions on the budget but um any questions tonight um on the budget I'm going say 11 right so that's a good point Steve so we are going to have another joint meeting um with the school committee and the finance committee and and the select board on April 11th so yeah I have many questions I'll save them for the 11th primarily but okay I will ask again if we could see like a 5year plan out of what the projected budgets will look like based on contractual obligations and also the tax rate um for that for the same PR right I know we're working on I know the superintendent is trying to work on that so yeah and I saw on their agenda for tonight they're talking about the contract renewal is that for um teachers yeah they do have some that up up this year okay okay all right okay yeah and any kind of like I know that came up at the last meeting any kind of looking forward um plan for you know not that it's going to be you know we're going to hold anybody to a fiveyear estimate of you know fiveyear plan to try to get some idea of what we're looking at as we go forward so that would be great all right one last question do you have a financial planning document or for uh policy policy y I see that sure yeah I know fincom has talked about updating that recently so um but yeah we do have one let's look at it all right okay um all right and then uh building projects update so um we have a walk a walk through on Tuesday um building committe some members of the come through the buildings and they're moving along well over there at the Town Hall and also at the senior center there's a lot of action over there now so um moving moving along well I don't know if you guys had any Impressions when you walked through from the the building committee meeting on Monday um it seems that the Senor Center is still going a little slow and past it's going to pass the deadine um but yeah the walk through of the the town hall um I think it's coming along fantastically and unfortunately you guys weren't there but me and Al have our office as first so yeah the the little ones right left us the bigger ones is that right basement yeah yeah yeah yeah um and Mike's office is like enormous it's the whole top got a small I was actually shocked by the town manager thought his the back in in the back corner a small mhm that's I think that's what he requesting yeah yeah we figured we have conference rooms now yeah there's plenty of conference a lot of conference rooms and there's a mother's room so I don't get locked out of my office when one of the mothers has to use my office as the mother's room because it was the only place they had go we'll have a we'll have an ada8 compliant Town Town Hall that be wonderful has there been any um discussion of the um destruction of the building the existing building we talked about that at the build committee and um we're they're requesting a a cost for that they're requesting a cost what we what we discussed was that both projects are under budget right now and if it's going to be possible I'm not even sure I don't think I asked you this yet M it's if they say they both remain under budget the way they are we're talking you know 600,000 plus 600,000 if that could be used towards the Dem otion or if you you can only use the portion from town hall for that yeah you can't you can't okay so that an a good question but but even then the cost of tearing it down 5 years from now is going to be astronomical we'll get better and are we talking about tearing the whole thing down or just the one side no just just up to Oak if if you're looking at where the new brick is up to there So the plan is still to use that brick side for fire yeah okay cuz I think that's a great idea and they need that so okay all right cool Senor sent today yesterday it's the most Vehicles I've seen on site oh cont it's should be home at least over the past couple days I will I will say they have a good crew there now yeah um you know we were on their case and the owner of the company called me apologizing saying well we got this job all our crews were working on other jobs we had to find people I don't care that's not my problem but you got the job so they they were on like the third or fourth super on the jobs in the company but they they put their top people in there now so I'm glad to hear it was buzzing because as of Monday I think nobody was even on that site until 3:00 in the afternoon yesterday yesterday I think I know yesterday there was there were tons of vehicles there there was a lot stuff going on good okay all right that's good news uh what are we looking for for uh Town Hall opening grand opening September they said fully done with everything Landscaping everything everything was November but I think so fall fallish and Senior Center was supposed to be what April to substantial completion be around the same I think looking more into the summer okay all right and if it's not completed on time then we can take back funds so that's very good all right cool any other questions on those building projects all right thanks for the update from the PBC as well um and then um Barrow court so Jared um as you probably know he removed um the tin pipe that was out there um and he created a nice drainage swell he did not get to every where he's trying to get rid of the invert from the pipe that comes out from Barrow Court out to where the Swale is um he still thinks that's a choke point and U last Saturday oh he left last Saturday I was down there around 2 2:30 and then uh the deputy was there at 5:30 said everything looks fine and then I said well wait till the line comes through at 8:00 okay doesn't look good anymore you know all backed up again and uh it was up to 17 in deep um so uh I noticed Sunday when I was down there I don't think the dam is the problem because the River cuts the river was flowing like crazy M I feel bad for that house that's on the other side of bar Street the trail back uh I was with Sean he actually checked with the owner and make sure everyone was okay and she said she'd been there eight years and never SAR like it was Sunday um so today um the conservation agent went down about around 5:00 and uh said looks like it was St the back up in the catch in the catch basins again so uh Sean set up a shuttle running 6:30 to 8:30 today and then they'll be out there in the morning again hopefully it doesn't get like it did last Sunday but he figured wouldn't work on it anyway so they're still continuing to uh look at options that they can do to improve on it not giv up on it okay all right you guys have any questions on that or comments yeah that joke point that jar can't get to is it because it's still saturated just can't get a machine I can't believe driving around town how many yards that pond every there's an area right I don't know if you go down Bay Road at all but the area that is on Blue views property there's like a little it ponds up there that's a lake it is like a lake now it's really crazy that sort of shows me how crazy Sunday when I was driving in Rockland Street in East was shut down um Elm Street was like a river going down the street it was across Union the other day really yeah and then driv ACR driving by the DM on 106 she had to uh had the wipers on cuz the water just spray that's wild yeah sorry we need a well we need a dry summer so somebody said to me today well at least we're not in a drought anymore I said I don't know that's the case but it might be for all I know but um but yeah be mosquitoes it's just been historic so yeah do you want to come up come on up and introduce yourself sure yep so hopefully we're not hearing anything about not having to use not use hoses right with all the right right yeah restrict our water use so just give us your yeah Pat 16 bars Court um so the communication has been better over the course of like the past couple weeks which has been great um you know we completely 100% appreciate what they're doing um and everyone El doing what they're doing um the problem that we're still running into a little bit and it happened on Sunday or excuse me Saturday that is that there wasn't any uh proactive communication about any shuttles or anything like that and so folks I I proactively moved my car because knew what was going on but there was no talks about a shuttle at all until Sunday morning and the question was okay well where's the shuttle going to take me if my car is still here um so that again not an issue with fire department but that's that's a problem in terms of communication with the residents of of the of of that street and the same thing tonight I mean we're we proactively had to reach out um about it and I'm not sure if we would have heard anything if we didn't start doing that okay do is that part the parking area that's on I forget the name of the street yeah is that is that sort of always set up at this point no it's not that's the designated yeah like the parking area right for the residents yeah but there isn't always a sign sometimes if you go there you have a line of cars and you know right cuz I I know there was a sign there that said like this is the temporary parking area it's not a it's not okay okay thanks and leave it there yeah I think we just leave it there right I mean just make sure that that's constantly roped off um or you know demarcated for for for folks um cuz we don't know like like you like we don't know when it's going to flood we we don't know when that's going to happen um but over communication is better like I'd rather be over communicated with than not at all and then in the middle of the day I got to remember oh yeah it's going to rain tomorrow I have to contact the town and let let them know what's going on right this is this is problem that we're again I want to rehash everything but like we cannot continue to kind of live like this on an ongoing basis and we like there's a problem that the town needs to take care of at some point some with something we just like some more proactive communication going on um I said it last time I'll continue coming here and say it again um we appreciate what's been what's gone on with shuttles and whatnot so far but the communication has always been started with from our side on everything yeah because I know on on our end I mean I've seen the emails coming in saying you know there's there's a you know there's a storm coming in you know we should be you know so I think the communication is is happening internally it's just not happening sounds like it could improve let's look at that way with you guys externally so especially since we got the list of of context too it's easy LIF easy it should be right it so so yeah now we we get two rains where it hasn't happened yeah so Mike like tonight tonight's a good example so do we can we just send the last out an email to everyone and just say it's you know we're might be time to move the cars and the will be coming you know from whatever time so it's been done but only after a proactive email that went out so we don't know if there's a shuttle that's being offered we have to ask yeah like in advance and to be honest with you we all have things going on in our lives I'm sure everyone else does as well um but this is part of I I don't know I'm going to call it the highway Department's job right now to start toig to figure this out and start communicating with us more more effectively I think it's fair to ask if see us doing that when we know we're going to get an inch and a half or more yeah it seems like it can handle that when it gets above that get a problem so it's now if you have more than one stom in a week it's a problem right right I actually thought I saw an email about that but it was actually your email that I saw yes I saw your email so so yeah I I didn't see one before then so unfortunately the the fire chief left I thought he said last time that um the number that has been being used could be called even if they haven't like form set up a shuttle service so they would they would still go get you if they C that number was called I could misunderstood but I think he's saying if the forecast is like there was the forecast was going to be 2 in R anyways so so I think he's looking for proactive just saying hey it's going to rain you might want to move your cars for yeah if if we set up you know if it stops raining and they haven't moved their vehicles yet and it starts backing up they CA Sunday was Sunday morning was too late folks well then you get into this false sense of security sure right that like the storm's passed yeah oh it's probably and then it just comes it gets worse after like as it rains it get it'll be bad tomorrow morning folks get get to work etc um was there I I know you want to speak you you can come up and speak for a second uh just one more thing sorry um has there had to have been any I so maybe you're the one who could speak about conservation because or or whatnot because um I thought he was going to be coming to these meetings or showing up to the meetings U Thomas yes um but haven't been here three times and he hasn't yet and so I don't know if if you guys can see this this line item here was just on the the town manager's report he was just letting us know what was going on so it was it wasn't a discussion yeah um before you sit down though I actually have a question for you you you were the one that got the email list together and everything I did not okay no I thought it came from you okay it didn't come for me they came from another Resident I just have been utilizing it okay no no that's fine I cuz I was going to say it would be good to get a a list of you know names house numbers and um so just just for the fire department if there's any issues they can I'm pretty sure whoever had it sent it out to to to I think it was just an email list well she collected whoever it was collected also the addresses so perfect great okay come on y thanks uh just introduce yourself and your address please my name is Mela I that 10 bars Court um first I want to say thank you in regards to Michael Mayor being elected to uh be a conable he's my dad told me to say thank you to you all um so he's very gracious uh the first thing I was going to say is the phone number that was provided for the shuttle bus that actually is a non uh it's a phone number that's not always used by the uh fire department so part of the problem that we encountered today was that we were messaging that phone number and nobody was getting the messages because it's an extra phone it's only checked when the shuttle is actually currently in use which is utilized by us obviously but it's put in place by the fire department so they didn't actually know that we were texting that phone until today when they were like oh hey we got Pat's email so go from there um so that phone number didn't really help us when we were texting it because nobody checks it frequently um the other thing is that he did state to call him um Mr uh Simmons Simmons the chief yeah so we got to reach out to him if we actually needed any assistance prior to because that phone number again is not currently used by anybody in particular and the only other thing I wanted to correct you on is that it wasn't 17in into it was 20 so we were it was marked at 20 in over the last weekend so it was higher than even you were told and that was told to us as I drove in the shuttle bus while D truck with the gentleman so it was 20 we got that the guy yeah he was scratching it down we got the email too when we said and Jared had gone out and remov the pipe or whatever and I'm thinking well maybe that'll help and that was the highest number that we've had on record and that was work that he did do trying to clear the way and it has actually been worse than ever so that's the only point I want to add yeah something like put in our packet too and I'm sure he was going to say it but uh Norton is definitely number one in Massachusetts for rainfall totals and the entire State I can see it it's not a record we want but we number one for the month of March yeah so even after put forth the efforts to cleaning the pipe we've seen them out there as residents we dve by we saw them out there um but the water yeah again wor than ever I know those guys the highway department is I would not say just as frustrated as you because I couldn't they don't want to be work but no no not even the work no they're frustrated that they can't fix it quickly because those guys I know them and they want to just they want to get it done right and so they I know they're very frustrated to quite a process not at the work at the fact that they it just keeps going on yeah yeah um I think that was all I had to say we we'll and we're going to continue to do updates and improvements and um and all that um the um I do still want I do still want to talk to John though about like um I sent him some information on grants I think I copied you on that um you know what are we doing also in the medium long term um to to try to see if we can get some kind of resolution to this for the for the Neighbors so the other thing on that list that the guy was keeping track was amazing how fast it goes down once it once it starts going down which is very quickly yeah all right um what is this so what is this phone number is this is this like a somebody's cell phone number or I noticed I noticed this afternoon late this afternoon Sean had the orange phone okay so it's just like a special phone for him okay he didn't have it until uh okay specifically it says it is a spare phone from the fire depart okay gotcha yeah all right well maybe that's just part of the prep for when we know storms are coming is to make sure he's he's got theone hope it dries out sooner than later than able to get that choke done and hopefully that I want to talk to John too second yeah second yeah I want to have I want to talk to John too um just because I know he mentioned at our very first meeting just you know Upstream you know other towns and dams and what are they doing and all that kind of stuff just to see if there's been any progress on that too again I don't know if the town's going to agree to you know you know hold their water up and create flooding on their end um who knows how that all works but um just to get an update from John I think be I did talk to John he came to my house the other day oh did okay okay yeah good um my husband and I met with him briefly to discuss the issues and he did say that the dams and surrounding towns are affecting the water flow in Norton and causing us problem um he mentioned that Bar's Court fortunately it only has one Inlet that has the water to be removed from the street so even though it's at the beginning of the street where that bend in the road is it's obviously not um good enough so back in the 70s when the development was built apparently they didn't have enough um knowledge and the piping of the area and specifically by my house barrows Court 10 um there used to be a stream that went under the street and it comes out in my backyard and you can see that the there's water on both sides of the street that collect right there so it goes underneath but it's not leading out to anywhere it's just cooling and going downward down the hill so the only Inlet for the water to be let out of the the pipes under the road is where it exactly so the problem is is that there's not enough many um areas during the street as you go forward down it where water can come out of so basically it's a matter of piping needs to be done in a order now because back in the 70s it wasn't a thing it wasn't a thing yeah he said he got all the pl um from the zoning board I think it was where go I don't know when they put the when they put the development in so he got all the plans for the properties and everything like that so he knows more about it um he knows a lot about it actually he is pretty pretty helpful in understanding it all but um again we're only one family that he's gotten to talk to yeah so I just feel like maybe it would be nice if we did hear from him as a whole so that everybody could be involved yeah it's it's it's really good to have all that information right because it's like then you we all understand kind of what the bigger picture problem is that's not saying we we can't you know do what we can do to rectify it but it does kind of at least give you that bigger picture of what's Happening he did mention that he's not exactly sure whether or not it's the dams that's the problem it's the fact that there's nowhere for the water under the ground to go cuz there's only one real section that has St water yeah yeah the water's going to go where the water wants to go and that's sweing yeah okay all right thank you very much for coming in thank you all right um okay that's does anybody have any reports or mail all right Steve I approve the Warr written to next agenda is for S will be uh one one quick thing I just remember reminder that the Easter egg [Music] comur March 30th 2:30 yeah Saturday will be there college right Peter where is it going to be it'll be at the we called [Applause] chap remember why here all right um okay so uh yeah and our next meeting will be the joint meeting with the other two boards um there is a motion to ajour okay all in favor I any oppos all right thank you everybody thank you thank you eater I saw you