[Music] as it is about 5:30,000 and ready to go. I'll go ahead and uh call the meeting in order. Um do we need a roll call first? Yeah, we do. Uh so I am here and Steve first.
Uh Steve Bishop is not in attendance tonight. Uh so let's please start with eight flag of America and the republic for it stands one nation under God indivisible
with liberty and justice for all. All right. Um here we have a couple these are our two minutes to approve. Yeah. I make a motion to approve the
minutes of the June 24th, 2025 minutes of the water and sewer commission. I second that motion. All in favor? I I as well passes. Okay. I make a motion to approve the July 8th, 2025 minutes of the water and sewer commission. I second that motion. All in favor?
I have an I as well. Thank you, Steve. That actually that'll be my copy. So, we go to I'll get to the ones started wait so we can um I guess we'll just move right down the line here and start with old business 2318 Bay Street. We have
someone here for that. We um that's just a general discussion. Oh, that's uh the gas station over there, right? Okay. If you wanted, we could jump out of order to new business. We actually have them here in attendance tonight uh via Zoom. Okay. Um that's 260. That's 260. So 260 South Washington Street
on me. Yeah, we got you. Y how you guys doing? Good. Thank you. So I'm going to uh I'm gonna try to share my screen if you don't mind. What's your name? My name is David Mwell with Kelly
Engineering Group. Right. Okay, thanks David. I uh select window or screen. All right, we'll just do screen one, I guess. All right, you guys see yourselves now, but now I'm going to
move you. We see you actually. Now you're seeing CAD. Now you should see a uh pretty picture of um the development. How about now? Yeah, much better.
All right. Uh, good evening, um, members of the, uh, Norton Water Commission. My name is David Mwell, uh, with Kelly Engineering Group. We're doing the civil engineering for the applicant. The applicant is a company
called Unit Cold Storage uh for the property at 260 South Main Street in the industrial park. I'll just quickly go through a couple slides and then we'll get right to the to the water loop and everything here. Um that's a pretty picture. The
project is on a 7 and a half acre site located um toward the toward the uh south end of Norton. This is South Washington Street, Commerce Way. If you go down No Boundary Road, a little bit further, you're out of Norton and into
Taton. The um existing site is in between the extended stay hotel and the Spears manufacturing building. Both have uh water services, we believe. Um here is
just a uh layout of what the plan for the complex is. It's going to be an eight unit um rental of temp temperature controlled storage. What you see out in the front and in the in the lighter color is the
little uh maneuvering area, small warehouse, small office and in the back is all the cold storage or temperature controlled storage that is. Um the entire building's about 59,000 square feet. uh started working on this project uh
over the winter. We have uh had the chance to have Frank review the plan a couple times. Um gave us some good constructive comments to get our plans into shape so they get estimated properly. We've also been working with the builders who have been uh monitoring
the conversations. They have the regulations and everything so when they select a site contractor, nothing will be a shock. Um, so the plan I have here is essentially the plan that's not the latest one. This one's the latest one. Um, we made
the drainage a little bit bigger and we were able to update to uh some of Frank's comments and took a look at the um and took a look at the regulations. So, the plan for the water, there's no water service at this site now, is um two taps
with a 10-in main coming to the front door. Inside this area is the full uh mechanical room and water closet is right right near the main entry of the building. Um we tee off for both domestic and fire protection. And that's a 10-in service for fire protection,
2-in service for domestic, and then continue on the water loop as required by the Norton regulations to loop around the whole building. We're coming around the whole building and back out to South Washington Street. Here we also have sight hydrants placed
throughout the facility. There's one here, one here, one out in the back because this is a trailer trailer storage out in the back. We'll service that. had that one for this side of the building here. And um pretty straightforward. The domestic demand for
water at this facility is not very high as it's cold storage. We estimated about a 900gallon per day uh title 5 uh sewage disposal system that's going to be located on this side over here. Um the
facility will use about 4,000 gallons a day of water um maximum to operate the chillers and the uh you know the process for uh the air conditioning. We'll use quite a bit of water. That's estimated at approximately
4,000 gallons a day. However, the applicant is considering putting a well in for um for those uses. We've got two spots picked, one here, one here. They're waiting on getting a estimate for for uh withdrawal and and uh cost of
in to put the well in. At the same time, we're applying to use domestic water. So, in a nutshell, I think this is a fairly straightforward uh project. The total total maximum usage of water would
be about, you know, 4,800 uh gallons per day. Again, the title five estimates are about 900 gallons a day. So, I don't know what um votes are needed by the commission to keep the
keep the um process moving to give the the commission an update. We have met with the planning board. We've had our site site plan and special permit issued by the planning board. That's an U filed at the town clerk and Pel Perry just
started. will be closing out at the end of the month with conservation and those are the only two uh land use permits that we need still. We did already go to the zoning board of appeals for our permit there as well. We did that over the winter before we got
started. Um so with that uh I think we have two commissioners here and the staff is present and looks like some of the consultants are on the line as well. So, um, with that, uh, through the chairman, I would, uh, turn it over to the
commission for any questions, concerns, or, uh, comments that can be, uh, incorporated into the project as we move forward. Are we looking to approve these plans tonight? So, we don't have a full set of plans.
Um, I was able to bring them up and print them offline just so I could give you a better view of what we could see on the screen, just because our our view is a little bit smaller here than usual. Yeah. Um, we've worked with them quite a bit. The only major modification we made to the initial plans, they were spot on with what they did was the extension in
the back to the parking. Originally, that was listed as a 6-in main, which per regulations, we don't allow to feed a hydrant. Um, so we had an 8 inch main and then knocked it down right before the hydrant. That'll give the fun. That's basically just up to the hydrant. It's locked up to the hydrant. It's basically a lateral, but uh if there was
any issues there, the uh that's what that area is is just parking for stuff is there's no issue with capacity with 4,000 gallons dig, right? No. And I know they said they're really pushing to see if they can get a well. It'll be substantial cost, but that would bring it back to just
domestic and fire and that's it. Um it looks pretty straightforward to me, Steve. Have you seen anything planning these plans that jump out at you? No, they meet Frank's uh satisfaction. Okay, let me uh I don't know if you want to take a vote and uh
where what is the status of the document and can you submit a set of documents for us to sign off on? Uh we can we can send the sets that we um have on file with the uh planning board which we've had our permit issued and also with the conservation
commission. Unfortunately, we didn't have to send too many hard copies this time because they're doing the inks electronic, but I printed one and I could print another one here at my office and we can send you two hard copies down. Do you want the big ones or the smaller ones?
We'd like a full size set, you know, full size. We'll sign off on uh we'll sign off on both, give you one step back and then you'll be all set. So, I make a motion. Um, so septic you have septic system. Is
that correct? Yes, we filed with the board of health designed that. Yep. We do not have that permit yet, but we do have it filed. We can approve this just on our copy or Right. So, I'll make a motion to accept the uh what is what plan is this dated
that the latest plan? What I'm looking at right now? I'm going to have to pull it up because I can't remember. Let me 79 last revised 7925 7925
original date was May 1st revised revised through 7 Okay I uh make a motion to approve the water layout designed for site development plans for 260 South Washington Street Mass dated July 7th
9th July 9th 2025. I will second that motion. Uh all in favor? I I am an I as well. Thank you, Steve. That's subjective to of course submission of the plans will be signing up on and we can date those uh today if
that makes sense. That's me. Okay. Okay. Well, thank you for your time and good luck with the rest of your uh agenda items this evening. and we'll continue to work with we'll continue to work with Frank throughout the process and uh thank you so much for your time.
Great presentation. Thanks guys. Have a good evening. Thank you. Appreciate it. Thanks. All right. Do we have anybody else here to present? All right. We did not anticipate anybody else. I don't see anybody else on the Zoom link
either. So, let me go back to uh old business and go in order. However you'd like to do it. Sure. All right. So, uh, 2318 Bay Street. Discussion. So, we still we're still continuing to work with them down there. Um, I think
the last meeting we discussed the existing fire hydrant that was in place was going to be relocated as part of their upgrade. Um, we worked with them to perform that. It did require a shutdown in the area only affected a few homes. uh they installed a new T and
gate valve cluster to move the hydrant basically from the middle of the the new proposed driveway back a little bit further on the on the uh the upland there and uh continued after that to install just shy of 300 ft 8 in water man that'll get them for front the
entire property heading down towards 495 it's going to cap with uh a brand new fire hydrant gate valve there along the way they were um approved to install two inch and a half inch services. One for the gas station/convenience.
Um, a second is going to be for the building that has not been constructed yet, which is uh supposed to be uh two fast food establishments. And they also put in a 6-in uh fire suppression drop for that building uh anticipating its need. Um so they they still have to go
through um the paperwork process here. This one's been done a little bit differently just because it's in Taton. Um, you know, typically we have a hard control on everything done paperwork wise prior to everything else, but uh, you know, they're they're actively pursuing everything they need to get done with us.
Um, sewer design went to peer review. Uh, this is the the special pump. Yep. Holden tank time discharge. Um, speaking with Steve, I know he was supposed to be on tonight. Yeah, he's on. Yep. You, Steve?
Yeah, I'm muted. Yeah, he is muted. Yeah, you might be off to the side, but everything looked good. Oh, sorry. Yeah, I'm here. And then I was having trouble finding the appropriate buttons, but I found Yes, I am here. I see. I see. So, you want to touch a little bit on that peer review for Bay Street?
Yeah, it was pretty straightforward. I mean, it's it's very workable what they were doing. So, I think um with the pumps that they're proposing to put in. So, this was the whole thing about putting the storage tank in and pumping
off off peak hours. Um, we ran the numbers. It'll it'll actually work really well. You know, it'll give you some good velocities in that in that line when they do run, you know, at night. I think even if you got into a
situation where um the timer got messed up because of a power outage, you know, Frank, you and I had talked about that. um they the pumps in the system would still be able to
operate with that pump running. It's just not something that you would want to do over a long period of time. I mean, this these are not massive, you know, high horsepower motors that are that are going to prevent the other E1s in the line from turning on. It's just
not uh something you would want on a daily basis. it would just, you know, it would impact the life of the pumps, I think, running against that head for a long time. But anyway, we didn't see any issues with it. We went through the
plans, sent our uh our memo off. So, I think you should be good to go. Okay. Thank you, Steve. Thank you, Steve. So, we'll continue to work with them, get their paperwork filled out, have the uh necessary connection fees paid for, and uh and
move forward with that. The uh their samples came back and actually passed for the bacteria count, but the background count was high. So, we actually um reflushed that line and going to have them take another background count just to make sure there wasn't some sediment in the pipe that
wasn't moved from the first flushing. So, just uh get that number a little bit lower. It was at the D threshold of 500 CF. You clean it up. Get it cleaned up. You know, it's it's better to get it out now than have to deal with it getting stuck in in the service.
Usually doesn't get any better. No. No. Exactly. And not knowing how quickly they're going to build that second facility there. We didn't want to create any any disturbance in the line that uh would be a problem in the future. So, get that taken care of. When you sent this email to us regarding the fees, I
was under the impression they were just using the Yeah, this was not too they went back and forth about it a few times and uh we explained what they were for and why we charge the fees being, you know, enterprise accounts and uh I haven't heard any more push back from it. I just came back from vacation, but uh
so they might have been thinking can't hurt to ask. I I think that's probably what it was. Um I mean they're exorbitant fees, but the fees are the fees. Yeah, they they are not like not like we're making the exceptional rules that they're in. No, these are the rules. No, they they've been in print. They've been aware of the the fees all along
when this project started. We supplied them with copies of the rules and regulations, the uh the allowable specs for certain equipment to be used even though it's in Dorton, but it's on our systems and they they were aware of it. So, okay, good. What's your name again? My name is John N. I don't know if you
know what we're talking about, but when you make a connection to our water system with a new connection, there's a feed of connect, okay, system, okay, for all the components. So, it might be a valve, water service, whatever else.
And you might say, what's a big deal? But we're talking here of water connection fees of $55,000 for this new gas station. And for the second building, $35,000. Okay. Just let you know what the magnitude why
we're talking about. Sure. Just to let you know that. Thank you. And these numbers have been around forever. I mean, well, they've been long as I've been watch I don't know if they're the same forever. I'm not so sure the last time. They haven't changed in a very long time. That's all
changing our age, but we're not quite. Okay. So the connections based on the size size of the of the tab on the main. So a two inch connection would be this. A 4 in would be this. 8 in would be this. Something much higher than like a home. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Okay.
So this just you know we pay for the infrastructure in the past and this is kind of like how to recoup it, right? And it goes into our general account. But again it just funds the whole water system. But you know how it works. Yeah. This is two new businesses. Fast food and something.
So there's a gas station. convenience store they built which has been taught that's there right on the right off of 495 and then right off the actual pastry fast food establishment has been rumored to be a Taco Bell and a Dave's hot chicken but nothing confirmed yet so
the Taco Bell is surprised to be popping up they see very we don't care what doesn't matter right from a water we only approve the water man of the sew connection once they build it yeah a nice place to have lunch once too.
Right. Good luck. Can't shave that away. So, this is actually moving forward. Still moving forward. Um, we have some paperwork when they're going to open. I believe the gas station is ready to go once the utilities have been activated. Um, we've approved everything.
Everything has been approved. It was contingent on the peer review for sewer. Um, so it'll move forward. Now, it's just paperwork on our end. I know there was a hangup down there with uh getting some telephone poles and some power to the facility. That's uh TMLP, the private entity. So, I'm not sure how
they made out with that. Like I said, I've been out for a week and a half. So, you know, it could all be done already. Doesn't work that way. National agreed for us, though. So, unfortunately, but I'll keep you guys updated if there's uh any push back on the fees or anything like that and we can have them come
before the board and have a discussion and go from there if necessary at our next meeting. Um I'm guessing there may not be. I was I thought that was going to be a thing since it isn't. Yeah. If it hasn't been brought up yet and there was plenty of time before this meeting and they knew about this, I would assume that, you know, they may
have just absorbed it. Didn't I know I do that? All right, then. Uh, moving on. Elm Street updates. So, we don't have too much on Elm Street. Uh, speaking with our town planner street and, um, he continues to reach out to
the EPA to see if there's any way that that grant that was awarded to the town can be reallocated. um any person that I've spoken with or meeting I've been into, it's been a hard no. Yeah. So, throwing around some random ideas knowing that the West Main Street
project um has some concerns that have to be addressed up there that would require Sue going in, it was thrown around as just a random idea. If there was a parcel that needed to be developed up there that could house the same type of improvement project and housing
project that was going to go on Elm Street, maybe it would be more palable for the EPA to accept a paperwork change and not have to worry about, you know, taking that 3.5 back and all that. So, haven't heard any updates on that. I know Steve was going to reach out to Paul and see if uh if any any work has
been made there, but um not sure if if he had a chance to get there yet. One thing I did want to point Did you how do you make up? Um fine. I mean I don't think it's going anywhere. He had another meeting with Ann today. So I talked to him before he had
met with and the developer and Bransley. Right. I um again with the concept of if if the developer is willing to pay for all the infrastructure, can they do it without a town meeting
vote? And then but the pro the hangup continues to be I think the only way she's going to do that is if she gets a tiff right definitely requires a town meeting. So either way it's going to town meeting right
and I don't see any reason to go to town meeting to try anything else. We've tried we've we've tried the options and they the fact that this developer wants to build a housing complex hasn't changed
and that's really the main reason people aren't supporting it. I guess I would also if if the developer were to come out and say, you know what, I will pay for all of it and I don't need a tiff. what's gonna happen when we when the
back ho shows up and starts putting in water mane and sewer. Yeah, I think there would need to be some outreach to explain that it's happening and it's not on the town's dime. Someone else is paying for it. So,
but that would be doable, I think, but you would need to at least get the word out there and take the backlash for that. But that's what they pay us to. Exactly. So, it's a lot of the same. I mean, I,
you know, Paul is struggling with losing that grant, you know, because that's a big deal. You know, his job is to find those monies and to to use them to improve the community and he's trying to continue the fight, but it's not uh
I don't know. That'd be awesome. We kick it to West Main Street. It could then you'd only have to fund a design for that project there. Um, obviously a time extension would be necessary, which you know, if they're willing to to swap it to another location, I'm sure a time extension is
the least of their worries. So, is this something we go to the state reps for or is that beyond that? I don't know. I mean, we I mean, they basically already told us it's unlikely that'll happen like you were saying. Yeah. You know, it goes it's above that. So, we had the conference call and
you know the person the project manager we've been dealing with his boss was on the call and he basically said if if you want to reallocate it to a different project you got to put in another application. You got to just start at the beginning again. Um
but it doesn't mean you can't ask you can't ask somebody but he's not familiar with that being approved and is not to be you want to be the second person who done such nice. Yeah, I have to agree with that 100%.
Yeah. Uh, so one thing I did want to point out from some of the emails that were going back and forth is uh related to Elm Street is that if um if the 3.5 grant does go back and cannot be reappropriated to another area, um there
has been talk that the town may be on the hook to refund the design grant money that was spent. Um, so obviously that would be a another another town meeting article and funding would have to be approved as far as to
pay that back because now you've you've it was in an email that was uh from the EPA. So be it. So if that goes to town meeting and town meeting votes no on that, what happens? They sue the town more than likely. If you're not following through with it,
it sounds odd. I've never heard of it before, but again, who knows? Was that EPA or Mass Works though, Frank? I'm pretty sure it was MA. Yeah, you're right. It was mass works. My my mistake. Okay. I just want to make sure because I
think EPA might require, but I don't know what Mass Works did. So, I I'll send you copies of that. It's concerning either way, whichever of a grant, if that's always a possibility. So for the design we had
uh 320,000 through Mass Works and two 100,000 was the earmark money. Correct. So I don't know if that's the money they're talking about. Yeah. Not not huge amounts, but uh again
thinking that it was it was free and clear and then hearing about it after the fact because the town didn't choose to approve it is something that should well Yeah. That seems the future. That seems like a stretch. I think you'd have some legal ground there, but what do I know? I'm not a lawyer. They
didn't. So, the the monies that were provided for design were in no way contingent upon the town moving forward with construction. I don't I was just going to ask agreement about that. such should have been stated one way the other as opposed
to and the grant the construction grant is fully mass works that has nothing to do with the earmark money. So, whatever. It's It's something that's been thrown out there. So, yep. We'll deal with it as we continue. Exactly.
Yep. All right. Um, right along. Great. Was wast pumping station generator. All right. So, the generator, as you know, suffered uh what we thought was a catastrophic failure. Yep. Not far from it, but um we did get the new ignition parts installed. Did
actually get the generator to start. Nice. Um not running correctly. there's a an issue with the uh the idle control. So, um unfortunately I've dealt with that before at COB Street, the generator that we replaced a year ago. So, I was speaking with the the sewer crew today,
informed them of what needed to be done. We had had them take out the throttle assembly, brought it back here, worked on it, and uh was able to get the uh the butterfly and flapper assembly back into its normal configuration. So, the butterfly when it backfired actually bends and it's it's not the top butterfly,
it's a second one lower on the intake. So, it's difficult to get to. Yeah. Once you get to it, the repairs are relatively simple. So, uh that was uh modified in house. That should go back in tomorrow. We'll see if we can get it to idle at uh 1,800 where it needs to be. Then we can call them back, have it
timed. Um it's only going to buy us time. There's some cracks after cleaning up the oil from the from the first failure point. Um, we found some hairline cracks in the timing cover assembly on the gear drive on the front of it, which is the same reason why the sister generator at
the 3 million gallon tank isn't an automatic. It has the same stress points. Okay, that's an obsolete part. That was the reason that prompted the Cob Street generator to get replaced after it backfired twice. Knowing that that cast block in the front is a failure point and you can't get it.
Was that the old Cop Street one was the same? All three were the same. Yep. So, does that just mean that we should proceed to replace the generator? Absolutely. I was like, that's exactly where I'm going to put that. So, is that who starts that?
We are starting that now. Okay. Um, I was speaking with Steve when I came back. Um, articles for the fall town meeting are due by the end of this month, by the 28th. If I don't have a full article in print, I still need to put a placeholder in there. that um Steve and I were discussing earlier look looking at a
cost compared to Cobb Street and some other upgrades that may be required here. We're probably going to throw an article in as similar phase improvements there. Um 475,000 to a half million is not unreasonable for phase one, which would
be generator um possibly a transfer switch and uh any other breaker upgrades and wiring that are necessary there. What size generator? Oh, that's a big one. Uh So Cobb was 175. 175 I believe is where we're at with that one bigger. Yeah, it's it's narrow
bigger. Yeah. Wow. Um Oh, it's not it's not small. Yeah. The uh Did we Did we keep anything from the Cob Street generator as there was nothing worthy to keep work on this one? Yeah. Where that one had airline cracks in the housing as well. The initial
thought was to take that off and modify the damaged one that we have at the 3 million gallon tank, but after looking at it, I don't think it would have survived taking it off with a press. You know, it's just there were cast pieces and yeah, you know, 30 something years of
vibration. You're asking questions. I don't have them right now. Never mind. They're not small. There are three three large pumps that are down there. Initially, the station didn't have variable frequency drives. All the pumps came on across the line. Uh we've
modified that over the past 10 years. So now pump one and two have a have a VFD installed. Um three has a smaller one installed with a soft start. Three is basically the backup pump. If one and two can't keep up, uh whether it be a partial clog or an ungodly amount of
flow, three will come on. Um it's on a float switch instead of on telemetry off SCADA. if for some reason skater went down, you would still have a facility to pump. So, it's it's definitely got its redundancies built in. It's it's just an aging station. Y So, we're definitely going to move
forward with that. Um fall meetings are usually easier to push large projects through. This one is a necessity, you know, and uh we'll go from there. Do we have any other ones that are in aging condition that only the 3 million gallon uh water
storage tank and that's hand operated? Those would be the last two that would have to be dealt with, right? The last two large ones. So, we have multiple small generators at other locations. Um, most of those based on the time when they were installed are actually inside the building just like this one is. Yeah. When we do those upgrades there, we may
look at moving them outside the building. Um, putting weather tight enclosures and stuff like that. Just the footprint of them is larger than the existing smart generator based on the size layout. So even fitting it in the existing concrete buildings may
be a difficult task. So we'll work with that when we get there. That was going to be one of the the next projects in line was to do an assessment of the sewer generators. Um any existing pumps that haven't been upgraded with cutter systems and stuff, but uh as you know, Murphy works here.
So we we move things around frequently and this is now taking priority. So we'll be pushing that through. So you guys will see an article at some point. Okay. I look for that hopefully for the fall meeting. I think we Yeah.
Just a question on the We talked about this before with Cobb Street and we can talk more um tomorrow, but when we did I don't remember any individual articles for the Cobb Street work. I thought it was part of
your budget. So, I don't have any articles for when we did the Cobb Street stuffs, per se. I have the emails I sent you that that laid out the costs and all of that. Um, so we may need to see how it was done in
the past is all. I mean, it's easy enough to do an article similarities. Yep. But I I I just don't remember it being a specific article just for the generator. I think it was a a line item maybe in your budget or something like that. Maybe that's how
it went. Yeah, it went through as a capital improvement project, but I believe we had some language uh to explain the cost, the breakdown, and how we were going to do it in phases and what the numbers were at the time. I believe phase two or phase three, we still had some money left over from Cobb Street.
Um so, at some point, we will need to reallocate that at town meeting uh because we came in on the budget on on one of those phases. But, um yeah, we'll we'll dig that up just so there's some continuity there because the other boards will remember exactly how it was done once they see it. and we'll do it
the same way. Okay. So, I'm just curious what I just want to make sure I know what you need from me, but we can chat more. Yeah, we'll cover what I sent you earlier today. I can elaborate on that a little if you need me to. Okay. Yeah, that sounds good.
All right. All right. We got a demand reminder letters. Yep. So, uh we started this uh a few years ago with the board's approval. Uh later in the week of the 18th, uh demand letters will go out. These are the reminders. Y
um basically stating that uh any uh pass due amounts need to be received by September 19th to avoid the additional $15 demand fee. Um and any account that is remaining delinquent after the 19th, we'll have that added to it, but it
won't reflect until the October bill. So it'll be in the system, but it won't be in print until the October bills go out. Um, it'll also remind residents that the outstanding balances that are not covered um in full by December 1st will also go to lean and they get their $50
lean charge um added to it and that's actually posted to the property taxes. Um, so these letters just go out to the people who are delinquent billing everybody. Anybody in our system that's delinquent
at that time will get a notice. Okay. Um, do you have any idea how many that is? I do. Notice it actually improved significantly. Um, so we implemented this in May of 2023. Um, initially back then the uh the
numbers were closer to 500 accounts each year. Um, FY23 there were 282, 24 was uh 292. So definitely made some some decent impacts. Yeah. Um, we've spoken to a lot of residents who have called after getting this, not understanding why they can't
um, let it defer and go to the taxes as it was once a very common practice. Um, businesses used to do it all the time as a write-off for somehow how that worked. I don't know. I'm not an accountant, but uh, that we've heard multiple businesses tell us that they used to do that. Um, you know, now with
the demand fees being added to it, it is no longer palatable to do it that way. So it it works out pretty well. Um most of the work here for the lean process is actually done at town hall because it has to go on to the taxes. So it although not only reduces the work here
in our office but reduces it at a town hall. So um you know they're very very thankful for that. You know any numbers that we can reduce from the work that's at town hall also saves us money. So we pay a percentage of their salaries and stuff for work that they do for us. So
it's a benefit. be nice to have that number closer to zero, but we'll take it. Yeah, we'll take it knocked down significantly. I remember when we started this, the number was we said there's 500 close to 500 ETSs. I almost cut half at that point.
I was shocked, but what do I know? No, I mean just that process alone at the end of the year is is taxing on on the office here. You know, making adjustments and making sure it gets the town hall correctly and leans and it's it's definitely nice to see a change.
Yes. I do have just a small section for superintendent updates. If you want to touch on that before getting into the bill dispute and the updates, we can do that if you wanted to. Um Okay. Sure. Just CC Construction South Worester Street. Um we've had quite a few
emergency shutdowns over there necessary. Unfortunately, black iron pipe is not is not your friend and that's the reason why we're over there replacing it. Um we've actually also had some plan shutdowns that weren't required. So we've actually gone out handed out notices to areas that were
going to be affected and based on changes that we could make in the field with some valving configurations, it knocked down an area significantly or altogether. Um so we've heard good things and bad things from the residents down there. obviously, you know, affected with an emergency shutdown is is pretty impactful. They're not too
happy about it, but they understand. Um, and, you know, equal equal concerns and complaints with the notices that go out and we didn't actually facilitate a shutdown. It wasn't necessary. So, we're doing what we can out there. Um, it's uh it's a work in progress. They are moving
steadily, so it's very nice. Um, we did come up with um an unknown situation at the first culvert. Um, if you're on Dean Street where Southwestern takes the bend, the first little crossing there, it's just a screen. Um, we've always had
an issue with water flow in that area. Assumably, it was a broken gate, which we do have one out there. We actually have two. Um, what was found when they did the excavations on either side of the trench to verify sizes is that the water man coming around the corner is
one size. When it gets to the bridge, based on the excavations, it appears that's where the road must have stopped at one point. Yeah. Okay. They terminated with the hydrant right there next to the stream. When the stone culvert was built to avoid any type of daming in the bottom of the riverbed
because based on the timing, they just lay the pipe on the riverbed. They actually put a 4-in pipe in from what? A 4 in water mean starting from a it was an 8 in uh eight or a six there just to make the the river crossing, right? because they built a shale rock bridge on top of it
and continued and then bumped it back up on the other side. So, so it hits the bridge and gets squeezed real hard basically. Um, oddly enough, the pipe was in beautiful condition. So, it based on the impacts that we would have to conservation and permitting and everything there. We have to leave that
in place. Um, if you were to take apart that bridge, it would not go back together. It would never be safe for any significant type of truck traffic. It basically needs to be replaced and upgraded. um that's not part of our project. That's a highway concern. So, we're stuck with the 4 in cross for now. Um there's valves on either
side. If for some reason the plane does fail, we can isolate it and then work with an emergency situation from them. Uh but we're going to work with the highway department, see what they can do come up with grant monies for covert replacement. And that may, depending on the size and width that needs to be done
to meet the new criteria, avoid us having to bring in the directional drill unit in the future to actually make the connection and go underneath the riverbed. So, it's that's a that's a to be continued, but at least that uh how wide is that along the 4 in roughly
10 ft 100t? Probably probably 20 30 feet. Okay. It's just enough to make the either side of the rock, you know. I mean, it that cover is actually very well built, so we didn't even want to think about, right, messing with it the way it is now. Um,
so we'll we'll deal with that when we get there. The improvements in the uh the rest of the pipe and the mismatched sizes of pipe are going to be a vast improvement for the flow in that area either way. Uh but now that we have identified what the restriction is and we're removing the valves which are also
adding to it, you know, even though the water will pinch down there, you're still going to have significant volume improvement um in an eated area. So we found uh a few of the valves out there based on the age are actually what we call backwards valve backwards from what we consider normal. Um a few of them
we've been able to operate throughout this whole project, not a problem at all. We got on one the other day that operated perfectly fine and it stops in the middle now. So, you know, four four turns and you're done. So, now you know that's part of the project being upgraded, which is the reason why we're there in the first place. So,
you say backwards value, meaning it just turns the direction of closes different from what we would typically want to see. That's why we have standards that when people build project, they get our specs valves that actually open the direction
we want them to. You tell you lefty moosey, right? Yeah, sometimes they have to call why they made them back with like it's one of those mysteries. They've done that. Probably the money. They got a good deal on them.
Yeah. So, there were some uh additional concerns that came up that were actually found in the field. The hydrants that were ordered uh for this project actually came through with the incorrect thread on the steamer. So, that is uh was rectified for the
hydrants that were already installed. And I believe tomorrow or the next day, the remaining hydrants that are still out of installed but out of service are getting seen ports reinstalled with the correct thread um direct from the manufacturer. So yes, some things that you would never think of are now being
added to the checklist as far as now thread pitch and things like that. I mean it comes from a reputable supplier, but uh obviously there was a a mixup at their factory for some reason. Hove above what what brand? Never mind.
You're asking too many questions. Sorry. They're red and white. That's all I can tell you. No problem. I can show you one in the yard. I'll look at it later. We'll have to do a field trip later. You ever seen a hydrogen out of the ground?
I have actually. No. Okay. Never inspected one, but yes. Very interesting. They're bigger than you think. Everything you bury in the ground. Exactly. More costly too. So that's all I have on my short list. All right then. That's a pretty short list, right?
This time. Um, so we got a bill dispute. I have a before I have a question. Superintendent, what's happening with our assistant superintendent? There is no that somebody applied. An application has been there. There was some questions raised that uh could not
be answered by the current personnel at town hall. So that process is being delayed. Um, as far as I know, it's being delayed now until the new town manager comes in so that he'll be on it. And when is the new town manager start? I last I heard it was supposed to be beginning of September.
That's what I thought. So Brian Clark is still acting, correct? Okay. When we get a new town manager, do we want to invite him to a meeting to meet him and just We should the plan. I'm sure at some point we'll we'll all get together and
Yeah. you know, try and familiarize oursel with with the new person. I think it'd be a good idea. While we're at that subject, what about somehow the selectman had mentioned to one or two selectmen had mentioned to me
about us attending a meeting to discuss um the desalinization idea. Is there any more talk about that? I haven't heard any more about that. That was something that was uh a few
weeks ago a popular subject. Um we're still working with Tara on the water quality analysis that's going to take a look at what our options are as far as purchasing water from either another surrounding community or looking at uh the diesel plant. I believe that plant is scheduled for shutdown in a in a very
short period of time because they don't have enough people to use it. So, it would be something we would have to strongly look at that that's not still a determination on their side. U because as far as I know, they're dumping all that water that that they're making because they can't shut the facility down. So, if they don't have enough
people to buy the water, it's costing them more money. With that, would that be enough for them? I don't know if it would be. That's what we would need to determine. We still don't have no way of getting it there from here. No, we don't have the pipeline other than that one little tiny other problem, right? We don't have the pipeline. It
was something that was shot down before when we invested that million and a half that we did to build the infrastructure and now it's since been used to get to that one property. So we we've upgraded that section of pipe. Um but there's no reason why it couldn't be modified to take flow coming the
other way. A valve pit would need to be installed. A meter would be need to be installed, but that's nothing that's detrimental to that area. But that is a way. Yeah, I can't imagine that. I mean, we have the pipeline. I mean,
how far are away at that facility from us? It's a decent distance. You'd have to go down to like the 138 exit um from Bay Street. Couple miles. Yeah. It's significant. It's not It's not a small challenge by any means. Um the other
the only route is 195. That's That's where we were. What side of 195 is it on? We would stay on the side heading to the Cape. Initially, there was talk about going into the center because the corridor might have been wider, but I think that's going to create more of an
issue because now you're talking about uh directional drill under the highway. Y if there's not a sleeve already there, which I don't believe there is. So that Yeah, the state will probably That would add a lot of zeros to the to the cost of the correct on the original highway. I don't remember putting this in.
I don't think so. There's only a couple places that I know of that have it. So, the other option would be looking at um a connection possibly on the East Hodgeges town line and seeing if there's any way to go out that way.
Again, even if we were say, okay, fine. Mhm. It's years away from we have to fund it. I mean, the whole we don't have to go to town meeting, right? We all know how much they love funding. I think just how many you're just loving
hearing from us. I mean that all come out as part of the report for the uh the water quality water quality analysis that um Tower is working on. So the reason why I brought up was um I was approached
uh you I think you Steve was somebody else was approached about talking about going to like it was Steve I would like to go to select the meeting and let them know what we're talking about with everything else we're doing other than talking about decentralization but I guess we'll wait for the invitation.
Yeah. Yeah. Or we have a little bit more information to present. Yeah. Exactly. If we we get halfway done with that water quality report, there'll be a significant basket of information that we can supply them with. But not that uh it's easily understandable, but we can
make it make it so. Okay. Thank you. Sure. All right. Uh we got a bill dispute 14 lower road. This is just the stuff that we got in email pertaining to 14.
This is something I copied. I just copied so we had the information here, but um I can't remember. Yeah, I think they just have a very high bill. Sewer. No, they do have sewer.
They have sewer. Um, so they say they've been trying to conserve water and they've been doing the best they can. We don't have them here at all, do we? Um, but their charges remain high. It sounds like they have a leak somewhere. According to the notes, I I was reading
through this early before the meeting. There's notes on the bottom of the consumption page that were added in the system. Think from one right there. Okay. Um, leak detection was done. Toilet was recently fixed. signs of clothes being left on the message.
When was the most recent reading was June? Last reading June 2. So when would the next one's going to be in in September then? Right. I'd be curious to see if it's going to
come back down into the 20s around 49 or 44. Yeah, looking at taking a quick look at this and looking at the notes that were here um indicating that when they went back out afterwards and took an additional reading in May, um the 10 units that were on track from March to
May indicated that the you know that a leak had been repaired. Right. Right. They've got um May 15th here. Mhm. So that's close enough to the June 2. Yeah. You wouldn't have a major difference. You wouldn't have seen a major difference. I mean, you see a tiny bit shorter, but um if that's true, then the
next reading, which is going to be September, should be back around in the 20s. That's that's the assumption that I would make as well. So, I guess I would be hesitant to do anything about this until we see we can give them another month to look at that. Yeah. We give them a 30-day extension on this just to see that bill. We can do that. I mean, short of going
out and taking a reading now, right? I mean, again, it's it's difficult this time of year is when everybody has a higher usage anyway. Um, even if they're conserving. So, what what specifically are the dates now? So, they made it within the 30 days in the first place, right? Yes, it did.
And if we give them a 30-day extension, that puts it in the window of the next reading. It should because we're in So, um, and we can grab another reading. I I'd be okay with doing that and give it another 30 days to keep this active just
to have I have a feeling it's going to be a leak and it's not really going to help them but um due due to that leak. So I'll make a motion to um uh table 14 road formal bill dispute till our next meeting.
I will second that motion. I like that. So will be on the record such a thing. Yep. So there's still active work there. into. Okay. So, we have a motion, a second. All in favor? I as well. And that passes. Thank you, Steve.
All right. So, talk about the road next month. So we are to Weston and Samson. Um what do you got? Steve want to go first. Terara. Yeah, Steve can go. All right.
Excellent. So we covered some of the sewer stuff. I'll give you an update. Um, so we've been doing that little project for the schools, just um, separating out those service connections for the Yellen High School. The contractor is actually planning to
mobilize on Monday and uh, do that work over the next couple of weeks before school starts. Um, it's all on the school property. The only place um where they're doing anything with the town system is connecting to that stub
um at the driveway of the Yell School. Um Frank, do you need us to coordinate with Bruno or anybody for that connection? Do you want them to be notified when they're digging for that? Yeah, it'd be nice to have him
down there, him and uh him and Tyler, so they're experienced with what's down there and uh can mark up our side of the plans as well. Okay. All right. So, I will uh bring him into the loop on
that. And then for So, we talked about the generator. We'll talk more about that. Getting something on for the Falltown meeting, the Great Woods Pump Station generator. the so for peer reviews I think we're
all current right now and I will report oh I had told you guys before that we hadn't been paid for a couple of them and it took a long time but we did get the last two payments on so Balffor Farms after like a year and a half we finally got the the final payment from
that one and then we just got uh the Reservoir Street they still owed us 1,900 bucks from uh from a little over a year ago So, um, and we got that. So, we're current on that stuff. I do have
to circle back on the Mansfield A and where that one is at. There was some back and forth. They provided some comments. I I got to find out who's waiting for who on that one. But obviously, they're not banging your door
down for anything at this point. So, nope. No, nobody in that area. Not right now, anyway. All right. And then bay. So for the Bay Street review, they had given us 50% upfront and now that the review is done, we've invoiced them for the remainder. So we
just invoice them. So but we'll keep an eye on that. Is that industry standard to go 50 and 50? I don't know what that's what we do. What's that? Seems like you got hung out for a little while on the We did and we talked about doing it differently and I I didn't. Um, I had a
long I mean, this guy was pretty good to work with. Um, I don't expect it being a problem, but Okay, we'll see. I had no upfront discussion with him. He hand delivered the first check and nice. Um, so I I think we'll be okay. But
yeah, that's how we're doing it. So, um, those are the big things. Yeah, we talked about Elm Street. I'm I'm just waiting for someone to tell me if something's happening out there and otherwise I'm done. Uh and the one thing I still owe you that we talked about the
last meeting that I didn't get was a proposal for the to do um a report for the West Main for moving taking the next step on West Main um for the Valentine tool and the schools. So I will get
something over to you in the next couple of weeks. Um, okay. I'm think, you know, a study I'm thinking somewhere in the 25 to $30,000 range is what that would be. Um, to update, you know, provide a little bit of an update to the comp plan
and then just how, you know, who the players are and and how how we might move it forward because you're going to need to come up with a with a strategy to get the town to approve any type of sewer project. Um,
and frankly, like you and I talked about, I think the the biggest hammer that we have or ally that we have here is the schools need it. So, right, the schools have you got a limited extension. They have a interim title five approval. They basically
decommissioned their treatment plant and are discharging it to the ground because it was way below the the flow that the uh plant was designed for. So, it's within the title five realm, but the health agent, you know, signal, you
know, basically approved it with a three-year sunset that they would have a long-term solution by then. So, so we're happy into that. I like that. That's a good uh So, that that'll help us get the the
next piece done if we can collaborate with the schools like we did uh before. So, anyway, I will I will get that We'll help. So that's what's that? We'll help we'll help.
Yeah, we'll help solve that problem. Yeah, there's a few businesses in that area that would benefit from it. They're looking to uh having sewer room that way we can provide as well. All right.
I think that's all I have on there. Sewer. Thank you, Steve. All right. Hi, Tara. Hello. How's everybody doing tonight? Doing good. Good. How you doing? Excellent. Peter, somebody's having fun, right? Yeah. All right. So, um got a few projects to
just kind of catch up on South Worester Street. So Frank gave you a little bit of an update. The uh the liner was originally going to be a 6 inch liner. So obviously we found it was a B2B4. There's a lot of mix matched sizing out there. So we
weren't too surprised by that, I guess I will say. But you are upgrading with a nice new 12 in for the majority of the pipeline there. So once there's some funding available for the replacement of those two cohorts um at some point obviously there's one a little bit more priority than the other depending on what they
want to do. But that's uh down down the road. But we did model the the whole layout and all your new connections uh to larger mains have a little bit of restriction of those culverts but it's only about 20 feet or so across both. So it's not too big of a deal. We also finished the liner. So the liners went
in um end of last week went under the railroad tracks and the two culverts. Uh we'll pressure test I believe next week and um you know in that whole entire stretch that barrier is still under construction as far as replacing the main. So just need to do connections to
the new main once that's all ready to go. Um they did pave Is uh last week. So the um permanent trench pavement is complete. Uh the intent is to come back next fall or next uh spring summer or so and work with uh Jared and the highway department on permanent trench pavement
permanent uh curb to curb overlaying an overlay of that whole stretch but want to make sure it gets through winter. Um so the southwest as Frank said plugging along you know the whole goal is to try to wrap up um you know in the next month or so and uh we're going to ask the
contractor for an updated schedule in the next week or so. the um uh the services on a certain portion the first stretch when we started at the the southern end of South Worester Street. We've already started to transfer services over. So, we've got a a mainline crew, liner crew, and then we
also had a um a services crew out there. So, it has been really busy um and understand that that is a lot of uh construction work for the for the customers, but the goal is to try to get it done as soon as possible. That's why we're trying to get a few crews out there and get it done. Not sure if there's any more questions
on South Worester, but things are plugging along. Great. Sounds good. Time for the update. Yep. No problem. Uh last meeting I updated everybody that we were going to be submitting an asset management grant. Uh we submitted the project evaluation form to mass DP on the 25th. So over the
next few weeks or so or months, we'll we'll find out if that's something on the table for for Norton. uh we submitted for vertical assets for for sewer and horizontal and vertical for uh for water. So there's a combination water sewer application that's in there
for now. Um so once that gets on the intended use plan, if you're accepted, uh that's that's a project for 2026 into 2027. But at this point, we just want to make sure we get put in the door, put an application in, see if um we get some grant money for that. Um, as far as
cottage tree goes, we have a pre-construction meeting scheduled for next week. We'll work with the contractor at that point on schedule as far as what their intent is. It sounds like as of now they're they're going to hopefully bring bring a actual uh schedule to the meeting, but that's for
the airator in the ground storage tank, the 2 million gallon tank. Uh, as of now, the intent would be to take that offline, you know, probably end of September into October at some point. Once we're kind of out of this peak demand season, uh, maybe offline for four to six weeks or so while they do
those repairs and also get the, uh, the airator installed and upgrade, we're doing some electrical upgrades. And then we're also going to be inspecting that tank just to make sure once it's draining, you have a little bit better idea if there's any other concerns that might need to be uh either addressed under this contract or a future
contract. And the intent is to also um have the contractor DN Tanks who are known in the industry in this area for concrete tanks to inspect the 3 million gallon ground storage tank too. Um, so we might do that as a change order under this or at least the very least try to
get them get an idea from them of what the cost might be to modify that, make sure we can kind of use the maximum volume that's in there. I think we talked about this before. Uh, the previous uh construction contractor and engineering firm that worked on that for
the private development. That's it was just kind of designed a little bit off. And the pumps that are out there, you don't have the maximized volume of three million gallons up there. You've got a several feet that are unused storage. So, uh, the goal is to try to just look at the most cost effective way to improve that tank in the future. A
little bit less of a, you know, long-term plan versus short-term action or airator is a big thing we want to get done at the 2 million gallon tank right now. So, uh, so more to come at the next meeting, but at the very least, uh, that project, our goal is to have that airator in place and in accordance with
the acco have it up and running, you know, by, uh, you know, next summer. So, still totally on track with that. just kind of need to get started on that and have to just wait for this heat wave and all of our, you know, heavy water usage to kind of wrap up. So, um I think the
only other things that we kind of want to chat a little bit about, and I know Frank mentioned this with discussions with Steve, so we do have a couple projects that we're going to recommend um putting some placeholders in for the uh the fall town meeting. Um we're working through as as mentioned multiple times. We're we did the amendment. We
have the PAS and water quality study ongoing. It encompasses an awful lot of options as far as interconnections, uh, potential other treatment sources, potentially, you know, upgrading your existing sources. So, that comprehensive study is is several months in the making. And the intent is to kind of
have at least a good solid uh portion of that done in the next few months. Um, so as long as we have the placeholder in there, we'll we'll fill in the blanks before the meeting and before and review, but we'll make sure that we have some costs in there prior to that that town meeting. Uh there was one item
that's on the acco that that was discussed briefly um previously and I know Frankie and I just need to kind of chat if you something you want to put on the fall town meeting versus the spring but that's uh upgrading the the uh hydraulic model GPS as well as uh the
unidirectional flushing or UDF plan. So that's something that just mentioned to kind of help with the THM issues that we know that got out there. But overall, DP just wanted a commitment which we put in the letter that Norton is committed to, you know, flushing and improving the THM water quality out there, which the aator
is the primary project portion of it, but the UDF plan is something that we talked about making some updates to in the near future. So, um, Frank, we can chat offline after this, but that's the only other projects. It's mostly related to the water quality PAS and funding. Uh, we are intending to apply for an
emerging contaminants grant for the majority of that work. So manganesees and POS covered under that that can cover everything from planning through construction. However, with limited funds available for the grant, we're assuming that maybe planning and hopefully most of the design would be able to be funded under that grant. The
rest of it would likely go under the SRF uh loan program, which is uh for PES right now is 0%. Um, so that's one thing that if you don't get the grant, if there's a lot of competitive applicants out there at this point, we would probably just have the um the placeholder right now for manganesees
piloting and or um planning for the next steps as far as PAS piloting and whatever other items that we we kind of want to squeeze under that grant and get as much as we possibly can. But um you know, that's that's our intent is to uh submit an application. I think we're
going to get you a draft, Frank, for review end of next week. I know you've been out and Ben's out this week. So, we just want to set up a call and kind of go through that and then u submit sooner than later. But, uh the whole goal here is to try to get as much funding as we can um without raising the rates and and
if uh there's only a portion of that grant application that can be funded, then the majority of the rest of it, we just want to make sure there's a placeholder in the uh the fall town meeting and if not that uh spring town meeting as well. Um, you know, and I think we'll we'll probably go into more
detail for the either the fall or the next one for all construction or anything that we're recommending. This is again anywhere from a, you know, a two to threeyear project here that we're talking about construction wise. So, we um we've got a lot of options on the table right now. It's going to take some
time to evaluate with you guys and and talk through all those. And then obviously uh with the dale and some other suggestions from from select board members, we'll want to make sure that we have everybody's uh buyin before we we go into full construction for any of
these items. But um so again, lot going on on our end as far as the uh the planning process for this uh the uh PAS and water quality. But uh more to come over the next several months. I probably won't harp on it too much unless they're specific, but we've done some water quality testing. Um, we've done a lot of
assessments over at the plant and now we're just kind of compiling all the data together and and review. Um, I'll just take a few more months to kind of get that all wrapped up. Um, that's pretty much it as far as our summary on the water end of things and open up for questions or comments.
I have one. All right, Steve. Yes, I read somewhere somewhere that the EPA whatever left of the EPA is uh changing
the goal. I know we're running under the Massachusetts PAS rule. Is that is that correct? So it doesn't matter what happens level. Is that correct? So you right now you are you are you're well three is hovering around the P6
limits set by Mass D. And yes, you are correct that EPA is re-evaluating and reassessing. They've also extended the potential for um compliance to I believe it's 2031 versus 2029. I'm not uh holding my breath on anything that happens on the federal level at this
point. So, but the state is definitely indicating you must be in compliance still with their current requirements. Um as far as whether or not the state adopts anything as far as non-detect or four parts per trillion or whatnot, um you know, that's I think they're going to hold off hopefully for a little while
until the dust settles a little bit on the EPA side of things. I think Steve's right though. Massachusetts, if it's anything like air, as long as it's as strict as the EPA, they can make it as strict as they want. So, uh, you can you you must follow the So, each state must follow the federal and
you can make it stricter than the federal, right? They can make it stricter. So, the feds could say, "Ah, no more PAS. Don't worry about it." And it doesn't change a thing in Massachusetts, right? Yes. You're you're currently under P6. Yes. So and there have been uh I mean the state has already indicated previously
that they were comfortable with what EPA was going to be releasing. So you know I I can't say when that timing is you know we had the P56 regs kit during COVID. So um but but certainly uh yes any state
and even even the town can always adopt more stringent measures but everybody across the entire country must follow EPA if not uh their own local more strict guidelines. I knew that was the answer. I just wanted to ask it. It's on camera now. So you had a good question and hopefully it was a good
answer. I asked it every meeting just to make sure we're in the same place because it's so confusing when you read the uh what's happening with the DBA. So every day it changed. So if there is still an EBA,
um that's all I have. Thank you, Tara. Thank you, Jar. No problem. All right, then. Uh does anybody have anything? John, do you have anything that you want to talk about or ask? Um not really. I learned a lot today when I had a great um phone call with
Frank. Um so well three is the one that has the high PAS. There's four other wells, but those ones don't have the same problem. Is that correct? Nothing there comes close. Well, one is non detect. Um four, five, and six are extremely low with the current standards
and well three is the only one that's exceeded and it exceeded by that one part per trillion that I think it was 2020 or 2019. Okay. It hasn't exceeded since. It's been in the teams but still within the standards. Okay. And we're obviously concerned about it.
What we've done is I don't know what your conversation was early on as soon as PAS became a thing because before it was a couple years ago we didn't know what P relatively as soon as we recently determined there was a problem we
started doing something about even though we weren't sure what the standards were but as you as Tara was just explaining Rome wasn't built in the day so always it's easy to say Well, we should just build something to do something. Well,
we have a conundrum as to where to put it, a treatment plant. It's not so easy and to capture all the water from all the well, right? So, we're looking at all that stuff. There's also financial implications that you can see with other stuff that take a while to right play through. Private business, we
haven't done already, but it doesn't quite work that way. As soon as it became an issue as by the way as other uh contaminants have have uh we have violations of having problem with uh TJ
THM right that's why we're doing the airator project to take care of that and we'll be doing that we're putting the airator in a storage tank in order to volatize the chemical so it's not detected in the system okay and we start that project
I'll say a year ago, but we're in the process of actually starting a year ago, actually. Probably more. So, we're actually starting, they're having the pre-construction meeting next week. Okay. You know, we had to design it, we had to permit it, we had to get money, we had to hire a contractor, we had to wait for timing of things in
order to take our storage tank off. Yeah. So, the goal is we're going to eliminate that problem. Okay. So, when these things creep up, we're trying to be proactive instead of reactive. Yes. Mhm. Although there's a lot of criticism out there that we're not doing enough.
There's a lot that we're doing nothing. There's so much that happens behind the scenes that people have no idea. Mhm. You know, so and we're being pro about it. And again, we're not being, you know, it's like the generator problem. Uh what do you need a generator for? Well, you need a
generator when you don't have power. I mean, he thinks about it when the power's on and it's good, but you need to, you know, so we try to be proactive on fixing things and we've been fixing generators all the time. The one in the Great Woods just happened to have a problem. So, we jump right on it.
But again, it's obsolete. So, um, what we mean by obsolete is it was how many years old? That's 30 34 years old. They just don't certain parts you just can't get for anyone. And the and the water department in the past have cannibalized,
modified, they even took a truck chassis and they did things in order to do whatever they could to minimize cost. Again, we're very costconcious on spending anybody's money. Yeah. And but that's part of being proactive, though. If you wait, the costs are so
much greater. Everything fails. Now you're on the under duress. you're doing it, you know, and just uh so if you have any continued questions, you can either call Frank and call Jim and I. Peter, you have any questions? Nope. Nope. I don't believe it.
Come on, Peter. You must come up with something. Nope. Nope. No. Okay. No. All right. Check along on good notes and going to put them on Facebook when I get back. All right. Nice. Um, is that it for you?
Yes, it is. I have one thing. um completely irrelevant to everything we talk about here, but I would just like to for the record recognize the passing of Aussie Osborne on the 22nd of July. He was an icon to say the least. I'm not
going to go on and on. I generally don't care when famous people die. But he's Aussie after all. So, just wanted to uh recognize him for the record. Put that in your notes, Peter. Right. Yeah. Put that in your notes. The other thing which has which has nothing to do
with water, I finally have been appointed to the Norton Traffic Safety Committee. Congratulations. After my third application, can he be on two boards at the same time? I can be. I get paid. By the way, the
one of paid the lease is what the paid payment is, but you don't have to worry about neither one of those are paying you. Nope. He won't get rich. That's it. That's awesome. My first meeting in September. Nice. And the reason why I joined it is besides the problem I have with New Moon
Street is a fact I want to correct the um the intersection where um you come out of the road here that you have to take a left department using the most. That's right. That resolved and I figured that the only way it's going to
happen is if I'm on the committee that would definitely help a simple stop sign there would help. I know tremendously we talked about a number of things but they haven't done anything right there make it happen back and complain about it I become part of the solution so that's
nice appreciate that so do our vehicles that almost get destroyed I know I know that's why I got home by the way from here so I understand the intersection trust I especially with a car I mean it's even it's tough with a truck I can't imagine a car well I'm saying that it's an issue so
congratulations Yeah, congratulations. Again, it's a committee. We meet once a month normally on second Wednesday, I believe. Noon time. Good time. And uh hopefully I can make a difference. That'll be two meetings in a row for
you. Tuesday, Wednesday. Wednesday. Yeah. Um anybody on a calendar? Yeah. 9th is that would be uh Tuesday the 9th. Tuesday, September 9th.
The first two weeks of September rough. That you're going to be ahead at the end of the meeting. You want to No, I'm absolutely going to be here. Okay. All right. I'm not going anywhere. I just have to being no other business that I Okay. Dave, I second that motion. All in favor?
I as well. Thank you everybody. Thank you. Thank you. night. Good night.