Good evening. Welcome to the regular meeting of the Oakdale Planning Commission. Uh call to order call of roll call. Pearson here. Wilenbring here. Campbell present. McCauley here.
Data informed me that he will not be able to make it. Hagen here. and Wilson also informed me that he was unable to make it tonight. Thank you. Uh, pledge of allegiance, please.
Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Uh approval of the agenda. Anyone have any changes that they feel need to be
made or shall we accept it as presented? Move to accept and presented. Second. All those in favor? I like any opposed. Thank you very much. Approving the minutes. Does anyone have any changes or corrections to make to the
minutes for May 1st, 2025? I look for a motion to approve as presented. Move to approve. Second. All those in favor? I. Any opposed? Motion uh approve minutes are accepted.
Open forum. This is a time for anyone in the audience to come forward if they have wish to make comment on something that's not on the agenda. Again, that's not on the agenda. If anyone has anything to make comment to seeing that there is no one in the
audience for that open the forum and close the forum. Uh, old business, none. New business, a public hearing on the comprehensive plan amendment 515, 5115, 5127 Geneva
Avenue and 6048, 6149, and 6211 upper 61st 51st Street North and 6138 Highway 36 North. Luke, thank you, chair. So, the location of this request, it's in the area that's located northeast of the
intersections of highways, state highways 120 and 36. So the area is shown on the screen in the turquoise outline. So specifically this area consists of approximately 8 and a half acres at the following addresses that uh
the chair just mentioned uh 51 uh 15 and 5127 Geneva Avenue, 6048, 6149 and 6211 upper 51st Street and 6138 Highway 36 Boulevard North. So the purpose of this request is to reguide
the area in question from commercial to mixed use as a means to align the city's comprehensive plan guidance with local planning efforts and to expand future development opportunities for this area. So folks from the public they might be wondering what is a comprehensive plan?
So state law set uh says that a comp plan it's a document that consists of goals, policies, standards and maps to guide development within the community. So in other words, it serves as the foundation for land use decisions including reszonings. The comp plan
guidance specifies what types of land uses are allowed such as residential, commercial, industrial, and so on. So it's a bit confusing, but to be clear, the comp plan guidance is separate and distinct from the uh the zoning districts that the city has, but the
comp plan guidance should align with the city's adopted zoning districts. So this image shows the comp plan guidance for the area which is commercial. So the area in question the addresses that I just rattled off it's the uh again the turquoise outline there on the screen. Historically this
neighborhood has consisted of a mixture of uses. So you may recall that there was a year-long process in which the city and we had a consultant at the time um we studied the area and the city ultimately adopted the Glen Brook small area plan. So that was back in September
of 2023 and the intention of that plan was to develop a framework for future development redevelopment efforts for this neighborhood just give it some direction um going forward. So a key recommendation of the the Glen Brook plan is to reguide the area again that's
specifically it's the area uh within the the outline the turquoise outline reguide it from commercial to mixed use. So although it is not included in the Glen Brook plan's recommendation, uh staff is suggesting
the city staff is suggesting that we reguide 6211 Upper 51st Street. So that is JG House construction if you're familiar with that property. Um we feel that it's also important to reguide that from commercial to mixed use just to enable or to to help ensure that the
area is a cohesive area and also to enable more flexibility for future development. So on this map we are looking at the current zoning of the area. So if you recall from the previous slide the area is guided for commercial
whereas the yellow uh shaded properties. There's two single families on the west side that front highway 120 and then there's eastgate apartment they are shaded in orange. So those are residentially zoned properties obviously that those are not commercial. So, um
the reidance from commercial to mixed use in this area would help correct that. Um the comp plan would also open up new development opportunities for vacant property. And specifically what we're talking about is 6138 Highway 36
Boulevard North where my cursor is. There's about 2 and 1/2 acres or so. It's been vacant for about 20 years now. Uh there currently there is no active applications for this site but there is strong interest from a developer to
possibly construct 12 live work condo units on that property. So going back just to the aerial um I do want to address some common questions related to comp plans. Uh so I I want to note that approval of a comp plan amendment does not reszone
any property. a property owner would have to initiate that process. Uh the amendment does not change the tax classification of properties. The tax classification that's a fully separate designation that is determined by Washington County. Uh also the amendment
would not impose any special restrictions on the property. It doesn't include any new um any new standards that you would you wouldn't see anywhere else. So the remaining steps of this process, I'll just go over those really quick. So
after the public hearing is held and a recommendation is provided by the planning commission, the city council will consider the amendment at their meeting on July 8th. If the city council approves the request, it would formally be the request would formally be
submitted to the Metropolitan Council. That's the regional government agency that formally approves amendments to the comp plan. And just a final note, as required by state law and the metropolitan council, there is an affected jurisdictions review and that
has actually been completed already. So, city staff proactively contacted the following go government agencies for review and comment on the comprehensive plan and they include the city of North St. Paul, Washington County, Ramsey County, the Minnesota DOT and the Valley
Branch Watershed District. So, all of those jurisdictions have responded. We received the last response just yesterday and there was no opposition uh from any of those jurisdictions. I just want to remind the uh commission that this is a public hearing item and uh staff would be happy
to answer any questions. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone have any comments before I open the public for forum? Okay. This again this is uh comments on this item of business the comprehensive plan amendment. So if anyone has
comments please come forward. I open the forum now. Is anyone wish to come forward to make comments to this comprehensive plan amendment? Seeing none, I close the open forum, bring it back. Anyone have any further comments about this
issue. Then I look for a motion to recommend approval of the comprehensive plan amendment to reguide the properties addressed 5115127 Geneva Avenue North, 6048, 6149, and 6211 Upper 51st Street North and
6138 Highway 36 Boulevard North from commercial to mixeduse. So moved. Second. All those in favor? I. Any opposed? Motion carries. Thank you very much. Next item of business is a public
hearing on zoning and subdivision code update and zoning map amendment. Is this Max? I take it. I'll start it off, chair. So, thank you, planning commission, and good evening. Um, as you may recall, uh, tonight we have we're looking at the zoning and subdivision
code update project. Uh we now have a full complete draft that we're presenting to you for recommendation of approval by the city council. Um this has been an extensive pretty long process uh for the over 15 months staff
and our partnership with HKGI a consulting firm for planning. Uh we've been working on this quite a bit and have really restructured the code, made improvements, uh public public input efforts to make sure that we're making this align with what the public wants to
see in the code. And yeah, we're very excited for this. So, um I'm going to let Luke say a few things and then we can turn it over to HKGI to give a presentation that goes over the larger components of the uh proposed code
update. next. So, really just want to say thank you to HKGI, our consulting partner on this project. It's this is a a massive endeavor. Uh it's been long time coming for updating this code. And so, yes, they they've been outstanding to work
with. And we also want to recognize uh the contributions, the discussions, the input that we received from the planning commission, the other advisory bodies, and of course the city council. We've had many workshops. I I can't remember how many workshops, but it's it's been quite a few. So, we just want to
recognize all those folks and as well as the public. Uh we had some some really good public engagement as Max was saying um some good feedback through our surveys and some through our um stakeholder interviews that we had as well. But yeah, with that, I'll I'll let
Jeff and Beth take it take it over from there. So, great. Thanks, Luke and Max. uh Jeff Miller with HKGI and I'm going to give just an overview of the changes that are being proposed with the uh amended zoning ordinance and uh as you
had in your packet a ch you had a chance to see a two or three page overview and then a more detailed summary of all the changes that are in the code which as you know is a thicker thing to get through. So hopefully those summaries were helpful for you for
tonight. Uh so we're going to do the overview and then we'll we'll just very briefly uh verbalize the major changes to the code and then talk about the next steps. So the objectives of the code update uh some of this won't be new to you because
we've were in front of you previously but the objectives just as a reminder were to update and moder modernize the code improve its user friendliness align with the 2040 comp plan as well as other plans uh including Glen the Glen Brookke
plan and then the ped bike plan uh ensure consistency with Minnesota state statutes federal laws and judicial rulings that have occurred since the last time it was updated. And then to facilitate achievement of the city's development and redevelopment goals, which are in the comp plan. Uh if you
look in there, there's it it states explicitly to update the code to facilitate development and redevelopment. And there's numerous redevelopment parcels identified and then development areas including the the uh station areas that are um recently
come online. So the process uh was to look at four chapters mostly zoning but also subdivisions and then very small the smaller ones of chapter 16 planning and development and then the trees chapter.
The project had four phases as you can see there. Uh as Lucar said about 15month process and uh the intent is to have this adopted in July by the city council. The need and scope for the
update uh again as a reminder is that the code the staff uh deemed that that it was an outdated at this point. The last full code update was in 2008. uh it wasn't a whole we didn't touch everything uh substantially. So it was
specific chapters and articles that were targeted and it was a lot of them but not every single one. Uh and then as you know we partnered with staff to do these updates. So we led on a lot of them but staff led on some of the some of the
chapters as well. And then the um the entire city code, not just zoning and subdivision, has gone to the MUN code digital format as well. So it should be easier for everybody to use the code going forward. So summary of major changes.
Um you know, a lot of this was to make the requirements easier to find. So that includes streamlining and reorganizing from 26 articles down to 11. Uh so you can see the structure of the the new code and you'll see there's kind of
intro general stuff like definitions and administrative stuff and then the zoning districts which is 254 through 258 on the screen the diff the various types of districts that are in the zoning code and then
standards that are specific to uses um is near the end of the zoning code develop velment standards is its own thing which is parking, landscaping, fences, that sort of thing. And then signage. On the theme of streamlining,
uh the districts have been consolidated from 14 to 10. So you can see in that table that R2 and R3 have been consolidated into one district for residential. So there's five instead of six. There's a new district uh mixed use which would line up probably with the
comp plan amendment that's just going through at some point um if that gets reszoned. And then you can see the commercial uh industrial gateway business all those were consolidated from six to four four districts in the new code. And then
tower and wetland those districts are they don't really need to be districts. They can be handled differently in the code. So they they've gone away. Uh we updated all the district purpose statements so it's clear what each district is meant to do and where
it should be applied. We updated all the allowed uses and the dimensional standards. Uh those are all in tables in the code. If you looked at the the uh proposed code in detail, you'll see those tables, which is a um you know, a really good format to streamline the
whole code so that it's easier to find things and not have everything listed in every single district. Uh so some of the key things with the districts is the range of housing types allowed was expanded in R2, R3, and R4. So not R1,
no change there, but R2, 3, and four. Minimum lot sizes were reduced in R3 and R4. So that's medium density and high density residential. Maximum building height uh can go up to 60 ft in the high density district or uh
R4 through a cup process. And then a maximum impervious surface coverage standard has been added to the code that that is not in today's code. We updated definitions. A key thing there was to in the residential districts housing types
are identified more clearly now and so we needed to add definitions of each of those to that section of the code. The uh as I mentioned the tables principal uses is a separate table from accessory
uses and then existing standards and districts were all consolidated into one article. So today each district is its own thing in the code. So whatever that is 14 articles for the districts whereas now they're all in one
article. So a big streamlining effort. Um and you can see in the table which just as an example which uh residential uses are allowed in each district as far as changes to the residential districts which is what a
lot of people are most concerned about. You can see in R1 there's no change. It only allows uh one unitit dwellings. R two and three have been uh consolidated. So anyone any property
zoned R2 today the change is that two unit dwellings, town houses and courtyard cottages uh will be allowed going forward. properties that are zoned R3. Uh the change is town houses and courtyard cottages are allowed in that
district going forward. Uh R if if the propertyy's own R4 today, courtyard cottages is the only thing that's being added and then R5 is the high density residential district and the the change there is to remove
one and two unit dwellings. Can I ask a question? Could you tell could you just define what is a courtyard cottages? What what exactly does that mean? Yeah. So, courtyard cottages are smaller detached homes and they're they're
clustered together on they could be one lot or they could be separate lots kind of like town homes. Are they like for seniors usually for they are Yeah, seniors is a common market for that but it can be for any any age group. Uh they
are an option for getting higher density, lowmaintenance um uh options for housing like town homes except they're they're detached. Let's see. as far as the
dimensional standards tables. Uh so those all for all the districts all the standards are on one or two tables and that's for lots lot size uh site standards like uh setbacks
uh and then building heights and building width for some uh some of the residential districts. uh distance between buildings. As an example, the courtyard cottages, there's a minimum distance that has to be between those those detached units. And then uh
impervious surface coverage. So that information is all in these tables and it's really easy to find it for any district. So I've got one question for you. In the entire tome, is there a definition of imperous surfaces?
That's a good question. And yeah, Beth can look that up. The reason I ask is because something you just said triggered it. I have seen people's homes where they didn't want to mow, so they've got everything covered in gravel. And I was talking with Luke
earlier and that's considered an impermeable surface by Oakdale, which means that'd be out of compliance or that kind of use would be out of compliance. Yeah. Yeah. So there is a definition in there
Uh, let's see. Constructed hard surface or natural surface surface that prevents or retards the entry of water into the soil and causes water to run off the surface in greater air. Examples include, but are not limited to rooftops, sidewalks, patios,
driveways, parking lots, storage areas, concrete, asphalt, or gravel. So, yeah, the gravel is there. I didn't say that when I read it. So, okay. Yeah. Yep. So that is in the in the code as you can see. I'm kind of saying that
I think that may be a little too restrictive. That's my opinion. Yeah. So um Yeah. Were you talking about residential properties specifically? So just as an example, the
R1 property is 24% is the maximum. R2 is 45. And I actually can't see the rest of that table on this screen, but but the numbers are for residential. You know, they're not super
high. So, and like I said, I I know of an existing home, but I think it was in Cottage Grove that it was a friend of mine that had as it was all gravel. Yeah. One more question. Sorry. Do you have page numbers where we can see this as at
the same time because it's kind of hard to read. Yeah, sure. Uh, sorry. Uh, yes. So, in the draft code, uh, page 55 is where the impervious surface coverage numbers are for the residential districts.
Commissioners, um, one point of clarification with the gravel surfaces is under under the current code, we do consider gravel to be impervious as well. Okay. As far as the development standards, I'll cover this first one and
then Beth will take it from there. So for building materials, we expanded we this is a big topic um with with the planning commission and then especially the council. So to make that more flexible, the building material requirements
um were increased for class one materials to allow more materials. Um and then prohibited materials were identified. Skipped over uh bullet point one. Bullet point one is multi-unit residential buildings
uh will have building material requirements applied to them now which is not true in the current code. So that's an expansion of that uh standard. And then the last one on the screen is uh to be uh provide more
flexibility for the requirements is to allow averaging of the percentages in the tables in the code across all building facades. So some can be really high around on street frontages for example and then they could be lower on
the non- street frontages. Uh so the next development standard to chat about is parking. Um one of the biggest changes here is that we separated out the requirements so that there is a section that talks about the requirements for single unit and two-unit dwellings. Uh and then there's
another section that talks about the requirements for multi-unit parking uh multi-unit residential and non-residential buildings. Um all of the parking spaces and those requirements of how many spaces uh per use are all now listed in a table. Um and with that
table, one of the biggest focuses that we um we're trying to do is look at how we can reduce that parking where appropriate. Um, and if you're looking for the table for the page number, uh, let me see if I can find it quickly for you. Uh, page 113. Thank you. Yep. Um,
so the biggest focus here is that we were trying to um, reduce parking requirements and simplify them for how you calculate them. Um, and so we we worked on it in a number of different strategies. So for multi-unit residential, we went from a tiered system that was based on the number of
bedrooms um in a certain unit to just a flat requirement of 1.5 spaces per unit uh for commercial for retail. Um that requirement was changed. So it used to be one per 200 square feet um and now it's one parking space per 400 square f
feet. So um that in effect reduces the number of parking stalls required. Um and the one per 400 is is fairly industry standard around the region. Um industrial we we took a little bit of a different strategy and we determined uh that the number of parking spaces is
based on the square footage of the floor space um rather than the number of employees on the peak work shift. It's a little bit hard to know what that number is um to calculate. So um there are opportunities to reduce parking requirements further. um you could just
apply for a cup to do that. Um we also expanded the ability for joint parking uh to be used within the city. So I believe joint parking uh today is only allowed with an institutional use and what that means is one parking area
shared between multiple uses. Um right now that I believe requires an institutional use to be involved. Um and we took that institutional use part away. So now it's just any compatible uses. um could do joint parking. Next up is landscaping. Um so
this is a topic that was scattered kind of throughout the code uh at least in two separate sections if not more. Um and so we brought all those standards together uh reviewed them tried to consolidate them where appropriate um so that everything is now in one section so
you're not going throughout the code to try to find that. Um again we have the single unit and two dwellings. those requirements are listed in one section. Uh and then the multi-unit residential and non-residential uh buildings are listed in another. Um one of the bigger
changes here is for those multi-unit residential and non-residential buildings. Um the minimum number of trees required was changed. Um so it used to be one tree was required per 800 square ft of landscaped green area. Um,
and the proposed new change to that is that it would be one tree per 1,000 square feet of the site that's not occupied by buildings and one overstory tree along the boulevard for every 50 linear feet of frontage. Uh, the other change here uh
of note is that the minimum size of plants at installation was reduced. Um, we've found that the smaller plants tend to survive better. Uh and so that number has been reduced so that it's one inch uh caliper for trees uh and then five
gallon containers for shrubs. Uh next up is tree preservation. Uh and this actually is where we started to kind of mix and match different chapters of the code. Um so today there's chapter 22 which is trees. uh
it's outside of the zoning code and we ended up pulling quite a bit of the language from chapter 22 into the zoning code. Um so chapter 22 is significantly shorter now than it used to be. Um and then the language about specific tree preservation uh is living in the zoning
code. Um the biggest changes here were talking about uh there needed to be clarity on what the tree replacement requirement is. Uh and so that's clearly stated now that anytime more than 25% of a site uh or of the significant trees on
a site are removed that replacement of those trees is required. Um and then if you remember in chapter 22 there is a a really fun table that has options A, B, and C. Um which is pretty confusing for everyone. Uh and so that's been uh simplified and the table's been removed
to just say that all significant trees uh are required to be replaced at a ratio of one half caliber per inch um per one caliber per inch that's been removed. Yeah. What is a caliber per inch? Is it different than an inch? Uh so it's a measure of the diameter um at
the at like four feet off the ground of the tree. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. Um, and the other change here, uh, just to make sure that you are getting a diversity of trees, uh, is that any replacement trees, that grouping needs to be at least 25% hardwood deciduous, uh, and
then at least 25% can coniferous, so that you're not getting, you know, all oaks, as much as we'd all love that. Uh, and then signage. Uh, so the big changes here is, uh, there's a federal, uh, court ruling that says you cannot regulate signs based on their
content. And so we went through this section of the code um to take out those contentbased regulations. So now the regulations are are really focused on you know size, height, setbacks, that kind of thing, number of signs, but you really can't regulate the sign and say,
you know, if it's a for sale sign, you can do this because you can't regulate based on content. So um there's been some language changes with that. Uh we did some minor updates to the billboard requirements. Um, and those updates really just focused on bringing the code
into alignment with what the city currently practices today. Uh, as well as the legal advice that the city has received, uh, reflecting billboards. Uh, there are some changes to temporary signage that relate, uh, to, uh, making sure that signs do not need a separate
permit if they're already associated with a special event permit. Um, and then allowing temporary signs to be displayed for up to 60 calendar days per year. Uh, and then we did update a few sign types. So, bulletin signs were removed. Uh, I'm also not sure what
those are. And then blade signs, uh, were added. So, that's the picture that you see. That's a blade sign. Um, development procedures, uh, which I believe we're calling administration and procedures in the code. Uh, so this is, you know, how do
you how does the city go about reviewing applications for land use, uh, requests? So, uh, all of those procedures, so site plan, variance, uh, conditional use permit, those have all been consolidated into a single article. Um, and at the
start of that article, there is a section called common procedures. Uh, and so that section really covers the things that are applicable to any application. So, who can apply? How do you apply? Um what do you what happens if you want to withdraw an application? Things that apply to, you know, all of
the different types of applications that are associated with the zoning code. They're all in there so that you don't have to repeat yourself uh several times. Uh we also clarified how amendments for site plans and planned unit developments are classified. Um so
now it's explicitly stated what a minor amendment is versus a major amendment. Um, so that that's clear because they have different review processes. Uh, we also confirmed that any use that's identified in the code as an allowable use is something that could
be an interim use if someone applies for one. Uh, and then we did remove the application submitt requirements from the code. Um, so right now those submitt requirements are on your online portal as it is. So they don't need to be in two places. Uh, the other uh kind of
benefit of that is that as best practices change, as cities, you know, no longer need paper copies, for example, um you don't have to go through a zoning code amendment to change that. Um you can just change it as
applicable. Um then I'll talk a little bit about subdivision here. Um so that was that was it for zoning. Um but we did make a few changes to subdivision as well. Um again, we'll start with procedures and enforcement. Um, so there's that common procedures section uh in the subdivision chapter as well.
Uh, we did update some of the timeline requirements. So we removed the timelines that are no longer required by state. Um, and then we did update some to make sure that they're in line with state statutes. Um, so just trying to make things a little bit more streamlined there. Uh, again, we took
out the application requirements. Um we clarified the minor subdivision process a little bit more um to show that that would be administratively reviewed um and that surveys are required as a part of that. And then the last change was
that um in the code now it specifically states that the planning commission is the body that's responsible for holding public hearings for preliminary plat applications. Um so design standards for subdivisions uh similar to the application requirements we did remove
the engineering design specifications. Um so a lot of these relate to street standards. So things like um street widths, pavement thicknesses, um you know the radius for different turns. Uh all of those have been moved outside of the code. Again, it's a lot
easier to update with with best practices when those are living outside the code. Um we did add a few standards for blocks and sidewalk design. Um clarified with an explicit statement that there are no building permits uh allowed for outlots
and then specified that water and sewer connections are required for uh every new buildable lot in the city. Uh a few changes to the improvement section of subdivisions as well. Um the first was that uh the requirements for financial guarantees.
um we ended up adjusting that and the main reason there is that there is language in the zoning code about site plans and financial guarantees and then there's language in the subdivision chapter uh about platting and financial guarantees and we wanted those two to mirror each other and so we were just
trying to make those uh the same. Yeah. So what does it mean that the street standards have been moved outside of the code? What does that mean? Yep. Um, so most cities, and I'll look to Luke and Max to to clarify, but most cities have kind of an engineering handbook. Um, and
it can be called different things, and that's where those standards typically live rather than in your code itself. So, I'm I'm not sure where exactly your standards are. Yeah. Um, I can speak to that. Generally, we'll keep the standards physical copy at city hall as well as online or available by email.
Um, so that way we can look at it annually as well. And if changes do need to be made, uh we don't have to go through this process of having a public hearing or in amending the entire ordinance. Okay. Thank you.
Uh and then the last change there was uh we did update uh the park dedication language just a little bit um to specify when park dedication is required. Um, and then really the main main thing was making sure those park dedication regulations are compliant with state
statutes because there's kind of a laundry list of things that need to be in there just based on the statute. Um, questions on that? Pause. And that's that's kind of the overall summary. We we'll go on to next steps after after
this, but are there any questions, thoughts? There's not. I have questions, but I can hold them too till you're finished. Oh, okay. Also, I don't Luke or Max, do you want to talk about the zoning map? Oh, yeah. That's a good call. Yes. Um, we do
want to take a look at the zoning map as well. Um, if we can get the staff computer up on the screen. Um, so as a part of the zoning code update, in some of the slides earlier, you saw that quite a bit of zoning districts were um
put together and consolidated. Um so as a result we've updated our map to show that uh so with this map we have not individually reszoned any properties instead uh if if we said that
R2 was becoming R3 for example we've adjusted uh those existing districts and put it in the map. So we did not go through on a project specific basis on any parcels. Um this is available in your packet as well. So it kind of takes
those components that are described in the code and applies it on a spatial basis. So you can see where it is in the city where these standards apply. We just want to make sure that you see that as well as it is an important part of the code update. And feel free to ask questions on this.
So with that, we've presented both the code and the map. If there are questions or discussion, uh that's all we have for tonight other than next steps. I have one other question. I don't know if I remember it correctly, but there was the word
outlot, right? What does that mean? Uh so typically an outlot is uh it can be a number of different things, but basically it is a a a parcel of land that is it's not buildable for a diff a number of different reasons. So it could
be that you have your storm water on it and it's there are buildable lots and then you've got an area where it's storm water for example. Um, outlots also can be if someone is platting a project in phases and they might plat phase one and
leave the rest as an outlot so that in the future that would be developed if that makes sense. So, so they would have to come back and plat that out before they could do any development on it. Easier to show with an example. But yeah, you'll also hear it in kind of commercial development if you
think about like Bergen Plaza. So, you've got your main, say the um what's the entertainment place? I can't think of it. The burrow. It's the burrow. You got the main burrow and then Taco Bell is an outlaw of that. So, they'll carve off a smaller piece of land. They'll
sell it to another business use to come in and develop that. So, that's very common in kind of commercial retail development. I got a list of questions for you. Great. Um, subdivision page 24, cash
inlue. I know that I think everything I've seen in the past, we typically require cash payments. We haven't accepted kind of park land for park dedication. And it's always been my interpretation of the way the code reads
is that we can't like it's the the way it reads is so it's section 21105204 uh number or letter A the city may choose to accept cash in lie of land
from the applicant for part or all of the required land dedication. So the way I read that is it's up to the developer to decide do they want to give land or do they want to give cash and I think the city in the past has come in and said no you just have to give cash. So if that's going to
be the case which I don't have a problem with I think we just may need to clarify that it's at the city's discretion whether we're accepting land or requiring a cash payment for the park fund or something.
Um, as far as the uses go in the kind of the mixed use business uses, I know in a a number of cities that I've worked in, I've seen a waterfall. So, you know, B2 district, all the uses in B1 plus these,
B3, all the uses in B2 plus these. Have we considered anything like that or was that, you know, discussed at all? Uh so typically that is actually something that we try to move away from. Okay. Um because it it tends to make things a little bit more confusing, harder for
people as they're using the code. When you see you go to a specific section, it says everything in the last district and then you have to flip to that district and then that district says everything in the district before and then you're flipping again. Um, and so we're trying with these tables to make it a little
bit more clear, just explicitly saying, you know, here's all the districts and here's what's allowed. And I I hear you and I think you're absolutely right. The table makes it clear from a a usability standpoint, but from an implementation standpoint, was there discussion about
still applying that waterfall theory? So you could still do it in a table format. It's just if you allow this use in B2, then you're also going to allow it in B3, B4, etc. Commissioner, I can speak to that a little bit. Um there is a component to
that that we considered uh particularly with so our two main commercial districts as the code exists right now are C1 neighborhood commercial and C2 um community commercial. um when we
consolidated those uh we went with the uses that were allowed in C2 as they were more encompassing. So with the remaining business districts so we have the business campus um which is a couple of parcels off of 94 and 694
uh we feel that that's a generally different use as it's seeking out more of a corporate headquarters or something similar in nature to that. B3 would be light industrial and office uh which generally has different uses uh associated with it and B4 is more heavy
industrial. So we did consolidate the commercial users and uh we haven't gotten more restrictive in terms of which uses are allowed with that. So we've tried to diff make sure that each district that's now in the new code is different. Sure. That makes sense. And I think it's, you know, again, it's a, if
we weren't as built out as we were, we had a lot more opportunity that it might be a different discussion, but the fact that you've there's enough or as few parcels as we have that you're able to kind of look at it and really think through it, it's that's appreciated.
Um, page 123, landscape and planting guarantees. again. Um I've so in my business locally I've done work in I think four cities within the metro
and I think in all of them we were required to provide a a cash landscape escrow that was held for one to two years to ensure plantings you know survived and were maintained and things like that.
um did we consider going that route versus, you know, in this case, you've already issued the building permit. You've you've gone a year and now you're trying, if the developer doesn't put this planting in, you're trying to chase after them to say, "Hey, give us some
money." In the case in the projects that I've worked on, I had to give that money before I even got my building permit so the city doesn't have to chase me down again if I don't perform. So, I just don't know if that's something we would consider. Yep. Commissioner, I can speak to that.
So, that's actually built into the site plan requirements and also the platting requirements. We uh take a as part of the development agreement process with city working with the developer, we take a financial guarantee. It's typically a letter of credit for those site
improvements. And then if we're out there and we're we're making sure that those uh the trees are installed correctly and they survive for a certain period of time. Yep. So we do collect upfront. Okay. Thank you. Um this one is
just full disclosure. It's selfish because it's the industry that I work in. Um it's in the use table for parking page 114. Um, for car washes, you have a maximum stacking for automatic drive-throughs. I told you it was
selfish. It's my industry. Um, you know, we don't we don't put a cap on any other parking use in here. So, I'm just curious why we would cap that particular uses stacking requirements.
I'm not remembering offhand if that's a change or not. Um just something to look at either. I don't need an answer. Just throwing it out there. Uh and then the last thing that I had and I know that we approved
this a while back so I think it's in a separate section within the code but uh anything related to cannabis facilities because I didn't see it in any uses. I didn't see any parking or anything like that. We can speak to that. Um the cannabis uh
uses in here are staying the same as they are in the current code. Um just for the renamed districts. Uh generally most of the regulations for cannabis are actually kept in the licensing chapter of the city code. Uh which we're not touching here. Um and that includes like
the setbacks from certain uses and things like that. Perfect. That was my list of questions. Thank you. Anyone else have questions? Any uh any questions for Luke or Max to
finalize it? If not, where's the motion? I look for a motion. Did you do the public hearing? Oh, no. I did not open the public hearing to disc for this matter. Uh,
anyone have comment to make on this uh item? And we do have someone this this member of the public looks familiar to us. Susan Willen, 2183 Holly Avenue North. Um, just a quick question. Um, on
the zoning, what happens or is there an instance where you're changing the zoning and I'm trying to give you an example here. Currently, it's single family and now it's reszone to multif family. I just throwing it out there.
What happens to the single family home when they try to sell it? Can another single family home or will it always stay a single family home and they could sell it? Right. Then go ahead. Please go ahead. You know what I'm trying to say? Yeah, we talked about it a year ago probably,
but I don't remember. Well, that's totally all right. Uh we with this um generally a lot of the single family districts actually allow already allow some sort of multif family component. Generally, it's listed as a permitted
use. Uh so that single family use will always be allowed unless the code changes in some way in the future. uh and they would always be able to sell it and it would be a um use that we would call conforming. So if they wanted to
expand they could. Um with the changes to the multif family district, the highdensity one in the code update, uh we actually made sure that there were no single family homes left in that district uh because we did remove it as a permitted use. Uh so we changed those
to a medium density single family district uh to to ensure that it can remain a a use that the homeowner can use in perpetuity and is officially conforming. Okay. Thanks. I ask a
followup to that. So in the example for the um what was it the comp plan amendment that we did earlier? So those two single family homes, if we or someone proactively reszones those to a commercial or a
mixeduse, then they are legally non-conforming and they can't expand. Correct. From the zoning perspective, that would be correct. Um from the comp plan amendment, um it would not have an impact. So if you remember a couple years ago, yeah, we
had that was that's what that all was. Final calls. Any questions for anyone? Seeing none, uh I will look for a motion to recommend approval of ordinance amendments to chapter 16 planning and development, chapter 21 subdivisions, chapter 22 trees, and
chapter 25 zoning. So move close. close the public for Thank you. So I look for that same motion. So move I'll second. All those in favor? I. Any opposed? Motion
passes. Staff leaison update. Well, thank you chair. So the July planning commission meeting date will be changed. Um so it's not going to be July 3rd right before the holiday. It will be July 10th. And uh I would expect to have a meeting then. I I think we're going to
be busy for the next few months. So, uh we'll just plan on the next few months having planning commission meetings. I do want to recognize Commissioner Janet Hagen. This is her last meeting. Uh we greatly appreciate your service on the commission. You're going to be missed. I hope it was a good experience, a
positive experience. Um we have commissioner updates. So, uh like to hear your thoughts on your experience uh in just a moment. Um and although that is uh sad news, there is some good news that we have and that there's an interested candidate for the planning
commission already and uh that candidate is being reviewed by and considered by the the city council at this time. Uh but that's all I have. Thank you. Any questions for the for Luke? Moving on to commissioner update. Any
updates from anyone on the commission? And seeing none, we'll move on to council leaison. So, good evening. As many of you probably already know, I resigned from city council um as of midnight tomorrow night. So, Council Member Severson is
taking my place and I will let him take it over. It's nice working with all of you. Thank you for your time, Susan. We appreciate that you stuck it out for us for one more meeting. You liked us that much that you you went tomorrow night. You stole my Good evening. You stole my
first item, but but uh I'll end with with my thank yous, but um uh just a couple of things for you this evening. Uh Gary Severson, I'm a newbie on the Oakdale City Council. It's a pleasure to be here. Um a couple of things. Citywide Acord Award awarded
nominations are are ongoing right now. you're those are available on the website. So, if you know a business or a home that's well landscaped and want to nominate those, we'd appreciate that. Oakdale Summerfest, you know, is coming up soon. Again, hopefully you can enjoy that. And I'm sure they would accept volunteers if any of you are interested
in doing that. And the last thing I had in citywide is Water Tower 3, which is back here, is undergoing renovation and painting, and not sure how long that'll take, but um it'll have a new logo on it, so something to look forward to.
Uh in our last council meeting on May 27th, just a couple of things that you folks might be interested and you probably already know about. The will will 12th edition. We had a public hearing final plat and I can't read my own handwriting. Final plat and site plan were approved. And secondly, the enclave of Helmo station. We approved final plat
and authorized development uh development agreement with the developer there. Um second to add, well, a couple of things. Congratulations to Chris and Yaya for reappointment to the plan commission. Um, and thank you to Commissioner Hagen
for your service on the planning commission. And lastly, uh, to Susie. We were only colleagues for a short period of time, but I appreciate the, uh, patience and your kindness for the newbie on the council and and helping me out in listening to dumb questions. So,
that's all I had. Any questions for me? Thank you very much. Thank you. And welcome as our leazison. Thank you. Seeing as that's the last item on the agenda, I look for a motion to adjurnn. So move. Second. All those in favor? I.
Any opposed? We are adjourned.