All right, I will call this meeting to order. The township of ocean environmental commission April 3rd meeting called to order. Compance statement of compliance with open public
meeting law. This notice requirements of the open public meeting law for this meeting have been satisfied. A copy of the annual notice was sent to the Asbury Park Press and the poster posted in town hall and filed in the office of the township clerk 28,
2024. Roll call chair and Valenci that's me. Members Colton here, member Godette, member Janetti, member Lutz here. Member Brandon here.
Member Mammy. Alternate Silia, alternate Baxi, Mr. Councilman Weinstein here. Alrighty. Welcome. Do we have any
swearing in to do? Minutes for approval. Let's review the March 6, 2025 minute meeting minutes. If all looks good, can someone make a motion to approve? I'll make a motion to approve. Can he do
that? No. try to have and then I will second. I'll move that these minutes be approved. All right, great. Um, we don't have any
I second. Yeah. Anyone voting? There's anyone here that could vote? I don't believe so. Um, we don't have any presentations for this evening. So, that jumps us to old business. Um, EC website, Jack Mammy
with an update. Unfortunately, he's not here. Um, storm water ordinance. Ed and Jack. Without them, we will move on to the Brookside project.
Mary, do you have an update for us? Wait, you didn't see talking to me? I didn't because she's an associate. Yes. Okay. Um, no, I don't I don't have an update and I am so swamped with the um family issues. I I don't
know when I'm going to be able to continue with it. I I'm sorry. Okay, Mary. Thank you. I hope everything's okay. Just a lot is going on that I have to deal with legally and in a lot of ways.
Okay. Thank you. What is the Brookside budget that Brook Mary We have Councilman Weinstein here. Would you give him a brief because I'm not sure. Um is this your second meeting as Lea is on? Yeah. So would you please
brief him on the Brookside project? Are you still talking to me? Yes. because one of the families that um that their house faces onto the pond said that before anything was done the pond should be uh cleaned up and taken care
of because that's the town's job. The town agreed to do it. That was I think two years ago and we're still waiting for them. I believe Ed said at our last meeting that it's a matter of budgeting and it we're not the top priority. So, I I said at the last meeting that perhaps
we could look at doing some gardens across the street because that was going to be um the second part of the project, but I I would have to just call around and try to find out if the garden club or any other group was willing to work on that garden, those two gardens, and I
have not been able to do that yet. So, there are two aspects to this. One is Snell's Pond, isn't it? Snell's Pond. Yes. Yes. the the two gardens that the um well no actually one of the gardens backed on Snell Pond and then the one
across the street back on uh the brook Popler Brook and it needs to be dredged. Yep. And then I think Blue Acres bought some of the properties. Yes. Yes. And these are I think these
are the four lots that eventually would be turned into gardens. And they have a design for the gardens for Ruters. Um Ruters did design the gardens, but there were people who wanted to make some changes to those designs. And
um I don't think Ruters is going to redo them. But we can't do the gardens until the pond is dredged. That's right. And the pond won't be drenched until the town finds the money to do it.
Thank you, Mary. Um, so hopefully we'll have an update on that one resident that they're trying to track down because then we can um continue with the plan to dredge. Um, okay. Community energy plan. That's also Ed.
Unfortunately, he is not in last month. We did not have an update on that. Um, so maybe in the May meeting he'll have something to share. There were supposed to be some meetings about that and Jackie and I were supposed to be invited
to that. I I never heard anything about Okay. No date was planned. You just you you two volunteered as from the EC. Okay. Well, hopefully something will come about that. Uh next order of business, old
business is the recycling contest. So, we sent the flyers out. We started it on St. Patrick's Day the 17th. Actually, that was our start, our preferred start date. I think it went out on the 18th. We needed one more sign off from manager Brown, which we got. So, that is being
circulated throughout town. Um, I could share the form with all you if you need it to, you know, if you have a specific network where you could post it to get as many students involved as possible. Um Ed would also be the best update on
if we have any current signups for that. So hopefully in the next meeting um it ends April 22nd, Earth Day. So maybe we can give a uh Donna we can give maybe a midmon update to everyone on because
next time we see you it'll be post submission. Okay. All right. New business. Norm, any updates on pending plans? No, there I haven't seen any new plans. Um, I asked
Nicole. Uh, yeah. She said, you know, I mean, you know, there's nothing really happening right now. I'm surprised that, you know, um, we did have, uh, nothing on the planning board last um, meeting. There was, we just signed a resolution,
so it has been rather quiet. Yeah. as far as Okay, Johnny, can we backtrack to now that Jack's here? Hi, Jack. I didn't know you were leading today. Yes. Surprise. Oh, hope a good surprise. Um,
since you're here, would you like to update us on the EC website? There is no update on the EC website. No update. Anything on the storm water ordinance? No. No. Okay. just talking about the community. Remember
you not since last meeting. Uh Jeff, for the EC website, is that just us pulling the trigger on going forward with having one? No, that was uh updating the environmental commission web page web page on the town's site.
And now that the town has refreshed the whole website, we just have to put together some sort of copy or promotional materials, whatever we want to put on our section. Okay. And then has to get approved and
you waiting for somebody to write copy or you is that what you're waiting for copy? I'm just waiting for Yeah. You know, we have to put it together. Okay. But Don, there is there's a page designated. Yes, it's there is material
on it now, even though it might be outdated. I believe um Ed had the emergency number to DP on there and information regarding the dumps when they with all the issues there. Um, you
can pretty much put a blah, a blurb there, anything delaneous information. The reason we have it is mostly to remind ourselves, oh, we have the website if we have anything we want to put there. Mhm. It's not so much a uh an action item that needs to be completed.
It's just a recurring thing that constantly needs attention. Okay. So, like the contest though could could be posted. Yes. That in maybe green fest. Yeah. Okay. I think that would be a great opportunity. Um, do we know if you know
when you go on to the township website, it'll automatically give you that box on like what's current. Do we know if we could control it to during this time window? Speak to Tracy. Okay. I think it's based on what's in the calendar. Yeah. So, I know Greenfest is in the
calendar. Oh, so it'll both pop up. Yeah. Oh, that's great. So, maybe we'll talk to her about getting the uh contest on there if we haven't already. Um, and then, you know, we're going to backtrack again a little bit. Um, do you have anything to add? We talked about the recycling contest. It
went live on the 18th and the deadline is the 22nd. I don't have anything to add on that. Okay. Um, keep it simple today. We'll fast forward to um planning zoning board report. Ed's not here for the planning board. I sit on the planning board. So,
I can say um we just signed a resolution for the fisherman source which we discussed in um last meeting about how they went in front of the board to add a retaining wall. Um the notes are on the minutes we approved for that. Just a change
the expanding it and putting in a routine. Yes. Um that is up in the industrial park right up Sunset Avenue. It's on the corner of Real and Sunset. the northwest. Um, green team report sustainable jersey
update. Um, green fence planning is underway uh May 4th as you notice the date. Um, traditionally the environmental commission has given
us some money towards green fest. Uh, and we're respectfully going to ask for that again. Okay. Um, I think in the past it's been 500. I'm not sure what the budget looks like this year. Okay. Well, by the time we have the next
meeting, Green Press will already have happened. So, are we to vote on supporting Greenfest? Um, do we know what number, Donna, that we have allowable? I don't. Okay. Um, I would
have to speak to Ricky. Okay. In Jack, how much money you wait to find out how much we need? So, you can go a dollar under. Is that it? Like like the price is right or something or what you want to come up with? you
can. So the the number I I would request compared to you know previous years is at least 400. 500 would be more comfortable but um I think 500 with what Ed said last meeting was running a little tight with
the budget. So I would consider you know pairing it down to 400 or$450. Can we take a vote tonight, Donna, to approve $400? or does the monetary number have to be
um we can vote up we can up okay vote up to $400 someone want a motion vote well he said he's begging for more than that so 50 I'm just saying
I've seen Jack if there was one but move that we prove up to $450 Okay. Roll call. I did. Yes.
Um, member Colton. Member Lutz. Yes. Member Brandon. Yes. Member Mammy. Yes. And I agree. Yes. All in favor? I. You
just did. Oh, okay. Double checking. Now it's Now it's $900. me again. I could be changing my mind. Um so next order lollipop pond committee report. Um
and again not here. We are having a a deal like cleanup this Saturday from 9 to 11. There are a few um points of meetups. One specifically for Lollipop Pond is we meet in the fire one massa firehouse parking lot. Um we target
Lollipop Pond specifically as well as North Wamasa Drive which is um that canal you know between Inner Lake and and Winnamasa. So if anyone's available please join us. Um you know we supply everything booties uh gloves um when is
that again? Saturday the 5th. Saturday the 5th from 9 to 11. Hope to see you guys there. Um, I know that they were we discussed how we're waiting. We have wood chips on Chestnut Avenue to be laid around the
trail at Lollipop Pond and we're still waiting on a few things to be tightened up through the town to get permission to spread them. So hopefully that update will be coming soon. Um, committee letter leader remarks. Is
that me? I think so. What he it all depends if you have something specific this talk. Okay. Um I know the the styrofoam issue we hit on that a lot last month. I don't know if there's
been any Yeah, we we uh we came up with a Yeah. Myself, Dave Fisher, and um the engineers and were you mind that call? Yeah. Um and uh Dave Dave Ram were on call and
I and I think what we did what we agreed on was that um uh when we find out that that when we find out that somebody's doing construction that involves these materials, right, that they are going to be given um best practices and what they're supposed to be doing and then we're going to be governing it tightly
to make sure that they're doing it the right way. So we're going to do inspections of it, doing those things. in uh the research. I guess Dave researched it and Greg um Glass researched it and we're doing what many
of the other townships do, which is best practices as opposed to having an ordinance which might be which could be contributed maybe burdensome to people who do do comply. We're just going to force people to comply. So, we can't fix the we can't do anything about the original problem that brought this up,
but going forward, we're going to be monitoring and governing it tightly. How are we going to monitor that? When we find out that somebody's doing it, we're going to make sure we uh go and inspect it. So, we'll be looking at the plans when they come in. They have to have that in the plans what they're going to they're going to get the best. And is that a vacuum who's going to be
monitoring them? They're out of my They're out of my room now. But because you don't want to have any fingerpointing later, all I thought they were going to do, you dude have to talk to uh Greg or whoever is the group that does that. All I know is what we all I know is what we came as an agreement of
what we were going to be doing. Put the plan in action and hopefully yeah work with other towns from what we understand. Yeah. We can't do anything what happened but we can do it kind of going forward. Okay. Um, another matter
that came up was a resident sent in um, regarding gas powered leaf blowers. Um, supposedly in Spring Lake, they had passed an ordinance on banning
gas powered leaf blowers. Um, not just because they're not good for the environment, not good for our health and the noise pollution involved with that. So, I had I was sent a PowerPoint pretty
much on um Spring Lake's plan for that. And you know, obviously I only know gas um powered leaf blowers. So, there are are alternatives electric. So, that was basically the plan is to enforce
everyone using electric gas um I'm sorry, electric leaf blowers. So, just a suggestion from one resident. it. A lot of good points were included in that. Was I the only one that was sent that? Um, yeah. Am I Are we able to share it with everyone to review? Yes. Send it to
me. Yes. And I'll send it to everybody. Yeah. Just so you guys can see. A lot of good points. I do just, you know, obviously we lead by example. So to enforce residents to only use electric, you know, I think we'd have to start at a higher level with maybe our own DPW using them
to snowball into everyone. research them. But I mean, I know there's electric everything. Mhm. But they can be they can be pretty pricey and they can be very noisy. Um I don't I don't know what the noise level are. I know the even the electric
pretty depends on the the orifice and all I'm saying is I don't know yet that it's you know I don't I'd like to hear how how it's going in Spring Lake. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they've actually passed this ordinance or are they still thinking about passing it? Is this
something they're thinking about passing or they've actually passed? No, I believe they passed this ordinance. So, I'm curious to hear also, you know, we're very different in size and you know, I think and it's different and there's also backpack and there's a leaf blower that
you, you know, just I have to have an electric floor. Okay. That plugs in. Plug it in. Yeah, I see that with the cord. It's it's it's very noisy. Mhm. I'm not sure it's much noisier, less noisy than the gas power one, except that I'll be using it much longer.
I thought when I first got this email, it was about timing of leaf leaf blowers because, ironically, that morning at 7 a.m. I thought I was going to enjoy quiet. That makes more sense. There's some towns that you can't use. There's a time Well, it turns out deal. Okay,
deal. You can't use anything that's powered. And I don't know if they they've been electric probably on a Sunday. Now then Saturday and Sunday and then once Memorial Day hits or approximately Memorial Day, you can't
use it ever. I looked at their ordinance. Yeah. You know, so that's that's more likely to keep it, you know, not so early in the morning, you know, but I mean I'm just not so sure that just mand mandating
electric is going to solve any problem. make it more expensive like a I think regulating the noise is probably more you can put a tariff on these folks. Yeah, there will be but you should at least look at the presentation. Yeah,
absolutely. Very interesting. Um you know a point I loved was the old rake your leaves. Um you know the good old days when you pull them on the tarp and pull it to the street and you know jump in leaf piles. Unfortunately, we don't
see that happening too much anymore. So, it was a good presentation though. It was definitely worth Well, I'd like to see you jump into a big I would love that. Just not on the side of a road in the middle of a big backyard. Happy to the deal and that joke play a part. They
create a they created some gigantic leaf puzzle. Attendee remarks. I would like to bring up trees. Uh, you know, it's been over a year since we introduced a pass township pass a tree
ordinance for residential and and the idea was that there was a scale for replacement of trees starting at what was it? $750 and then the large tree that went up. And we always said we were going to see how that worked and then
try to go into the um the commercial ordinance, whatever it's called, the development ordinance and and have the same scale apply to uh commercial developers. We've never done that. And
right now, if a developer of a commercial property removes a tree, they can pay into the tree fund of only $350, which doesn't nearly cover the cost of two. There are two aspects of this. The first aspect is which I asked for. I've been told I came to the
council one time. They had a group session, you know, say just move it up to $750. Forget about the whole scale yet. Just change the 350 to 7, right? To 750. It's 750. 350 is 750, right? I
think it's that's what it is. 350 to 750. Just change that. What does it amount to? It means if How many trees? We just heard about a property that was going to have How many trees it built? 300. 300. Okay. 300 trees times
$400. Okay. Is $120,000. Right.$120,000. That's $12,000, right?$120,000 $120,000 that the town is not getting into a shade tree fund that's down to who knows how many few thousand it's
down to now. That's what that's just that's just so meanwhile the homeowners are being forced to pay more than a commercial developer if they cut down if they're not going to replace a tree. It's not right to the town. Where is this? Well, well, it's it's a council. The
council has to make the change. So should we go to a council workshop work session and and discuss this perhaps? Yeah, I mean well first of all has it has this been you say this has been brought up. Well I I I know the council
I can't was there I was a meeting with when Marie was here and Dave was there and the touch of attorney was at that meeting. I forget what the meeting was about. Okay. But but it's been a while since it's been brought up. All right. So at this meeting I'll bring it up and I'll say hey you know we have an ordinance we have a is it an ordinance
or policy or no it's the actual ordinance we have we have basically it's a for home owners for homeowners that we want to move it to $750 just like the homeowners just homeowners we want to make the
commercial one commercial okay yeah I'll bring it up just have them match J Higgins was When that first went into 350, the idea was to make a number that would cost at least as much. No. Well, no. Not even as much as you
could replace a tree for. I mean, you want to just send me a quick email. Even the 50th lesson you can replace a tree. And um the next council meeting is the 10th. Okay. Next next Thursday. Have you I'll send you an email, but do you
want to go to the workshop meeting? I like attending, but yeah, I can probably go. Yeah, when I bring it up, you can, you know, I'll bring up and you guys can Yeah, bring it up and support it. Okay, great. You have to be there for the um Yeah, the presentation. So, we might as well go to the workshop,
too. Awesome. Okay, I'll send you an email though regard this. The presentation for the kids is the one from the last the video one. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So, now we're all ready to uh present the survey. Well, the PSA. the PSA. Yeah. And with
that, the survey. Okay. Nice. Yeah, it's exciting. Yeah, it look nice. Yeah, it look nice. Yeah. Well done. Um, do we have any public comments? We're not done with remarks. Oh, I'm sorry. I do want to say I do want to say I will
do though is when you send it to me before the meeting, I'll talk to Dave. Yeah. So Dave knows what's going to go on. Okay. And just get his thoughts on it so he's prepared for it. Yeah. I don't know if we necessarily need to be put on the agenda of the workshop. We'll just say public comment speak. Yeah.
Yeah. I remember when I did it, I told him a number that would add up to about 250,000. I should have sold 4,000. It's up to a million. Whatever the numbers. Okay, cool. Anyone else? I was going to
blather on about green test a little more. Yes, please. Um, I have to send Donna updated flyers for everybody to promote the event um, within your circles or, you know, any
place you go uh, shopping regularly if they want to hang it in the window. That would be helpful. Yeah. All that stuff. So, update us again on the vendors. I know you said we're also promoting small businesses, but did we food? You can have food. We can have food, but the
vendors have to pay uh the vendor fee for a food related business is higher and they also have to go to Donna to get a permit. Yes, it's $10. Okay. $10 to have if they want to sell at any special event in town, it's
$10. They need to come and get there's an application they can pull off of the website. Bring that in with a $10 check or money order. I don't take cash and they'll get a permit right
away. Okay. But it needs to be at least 3 days prior to the event because if they have um fire, say like if it's a food truck, they need to be inspected by the um fire department. Fire department
and the health department has to be aware of it as well. Yeah. So we have uh I'm closing better applications a week before Greenfest. But hopefully everyone will be okay in by then. So we had a call the other day about it, right? It
was um Yi and um Tim Tim and so one thing that I think would be valuable if we had a list of who you already kind of contacting. So we don't remember we Yeah, we don't double cross double cross. So if there's way you give us a list of everybody that you're contacting. Yeah. So a list of that too.
But you I mean I think it's probably everybody, right? Yeah. Like I in my head I know of like a mobile car coffee cart but I obviously we don't want five different coffee you know I don't know of any coffee at this list. Okay. And but that would be fine, right? Okay.
Great. Well, I think just just on the how many you had 25 25 I believe we had about 25 to 30 vendors. Yeah. So I think the thing we were doing you you were making sure to contact those people. Yep. So I think we just wanted to make sure who those people
were so we don't contact them when you're trying. Yeah. Right. And then I mean Yeah. How how did that when somebody does sign up, do you do we have a list of Yeah. Do you have like a Google doc or a running Yeah. So I have a I have a
running spreadsheet like a Google doc. Um can you share it with people? Do you want to share with people? So how are we doing with the numbers now? We have three confirmed
vendors and all culture vendors and like Mammoth Park comes back every year or was that last year the first time they the park system that was the first year they that was in that was a good ad you know. Yeah. I want to get
more vendors like that. Yeah. you know, trying to get like League of Conservation voters, like Conservation Foundation, like all these like kind of environmentally focused. We want to get the schools to you want
to get to school, right? So, you you don't feel like you're late, right? Because a lot of people sign up like a couple weeks ahead of time. Yeah. I know. A lot of people like last year signed up like mid April or end of April. Yeah. I think they just probably have to be aware of it. Yeah. And is
there a maximum that we could have? Like is there some where this is not going to be in the This is by the library or by the No, now this is in the park. Which park? The By the stand. Oh, it's going to be by the GR. It's going to be by the Yeah. Oh, okay. By the band. And you MC
it? Who's usually on the Or is someone not usually up there? Because it's been a year lapse since we've been at that location. So, nobody really MC's, but I have gotten musical acts to perform in the band show. That's great. Oh, all right. All right. And it's also um
the 5K is happening that morning as well. Yeah. So, hopefully because we're coordinating with Tim on the 5K and putting it all in the same location where the race starts starts and ends. Then the idea is as people are
stopping the race, they can go and check out Brief Fest and all the things that are happening. Yeah. Great. So minimum 25 is a number, right? Vendors. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Want to keep
growing it. Okay, cool. Any other one thing? Some I know it was a while ago we had somebody come in and talk about the plastic utensils at the restaurant. Yes. Nancy, you're like, um, this was a great idea. I see my kids
order take out all the time and it's just so wasteful. I I'm sure they don't only get their stuff from Ocean Township restaurants. It just seemed like Yeah. Um I I do notice places all have been asking me um you know if I want utensils which is
basically the what we want them to do not just you know throw it in the bag and assume that you're going to use it. So um Nancy you know I'm sure she um we voted her in last month as an associate member. So I'm sure she'll be returning for next month's meeting. What's wrong
with putting something I'm not sure what it would say on the environmental commission statue? But if we page, but on the town's web page saying the environmental commission, it recommends that you not when you take out that you do not
take plastic unless you need it and and let the vendor know that you would like them to not pack it. You know, something like that. Yeah, let's request it. That's an environmental commission bullet. Yeah, that would be a cute like blurb on our, you know, homepage of the
EC website. Now, but the one's looking at it. Yeah. So, so I'm not saying where or how or maybe ask uh it's too wor to put up on the sign that you know. Yeah. You want to cause a traffic. Say no to
plastic. Good. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. There should be some way Matter of fact, maybe Tracy hasn't finished the Oh, that would be a great thing to put in to say it's Township of Ocean
Environmental Commission and add and maybe every time we have a newsletter, we could put in a new recommendation that's environmentally friendly. It's a great idea. some way to get a logo and a line through it and spoon people when they go get the
people the business is here that people they said look you're spending money on this and we're just throwing it away but if you say here's all the stuff if you want it take it if you don't it's not in your bag you're aware it's not in your bag so I guess I guess what you want is for
people for food establishments to say if you need plastic works spoons and knives as Yeah. by request only. So I know I know I know this might be a little archaic, right? But we could just kind of take the next month and just not just
go to every every Well, I think that's what Nancy was doing. Just I just didn't know where she how far along she got. That's what I was because she was as far as I know she was going to go to every restaurant in Ocean Township. I believe she's made great headway so far.
She'll be here at the upcoming meeting. Yeah. I think the problem is that first time that somebody goes to get a salad and doesn't have and they calling back and yell they have sixes on the bench eating eating their
salad. Yeah. because well my my second I know we have the plastic film recycling which I participate in and it's it's wonderful I mean I feel that but does anybody know is that that's here for the long haul or was that a so it was a pilot program for
the first year and now we are continuing with it yes and as I see on um you know remarks just on public forums, you know, they they it's been pretty good. There's one or two people who I don't know what if they're getting um the trucks missing
in their house or what, but for the most part, whoever is participating, right, you have no problem. But is it Tuesday? One Tuesday a month. The last one for me it's the last Monday. Yeah. Okay. I guess for everybody I think maybe the second one they missed my house, but it's been picked up every time since.
Okay, that's great. Yeah, I I I had three months worth because I I it rained one time. The next time I forgot, but it doesn't it didn't take it still didn't take up much room. See, mine does went in the bucket. You have to But I guess that was my question. Is there a better
container to use because I I know like I've had to put a little rock in there or something just to keep it down because I don't want the whole neighbor. So, yeah. But I don't know who's leading that. The trick is to pack them all into one bag. Well, I've seen people do that,
but I didn't want to waste plastic to recycle. One of the bags you have is guaranteed how many you know bags this big. Okay. Would fit in in here with room to spare.
If the air I hear I know you I hear you talking. I know you're getting a lot of hot air. Yeah, I think a lot of people were um were recommending like tops for them, but but just I guess the way you know cuz when it rains then you know it fills up with water as well sideways.
The guy will see it. Yeah. But or you're not worried about the bags falling out. Well, packing it's only I have two bags. Maybe you could do a demo for us the next side. I'm going to pretend I'm pretend you're plastic. Your neck is
plastic. Show you how He's threatening me. He's threatening me. I'll let that noted in the minutes. Okay. Any public comments? No public comments. I I comment. Yes. Yes.
So I actually have the nine pages because as you know Sage is not the most user friendly. So instead of you know playing with all the tabs I had screenshotted each page. There's nine pages printed it out so we can lay it
out fill in as much as you and I know possible. A majority of it we don't know. I believe Tracy or Jesse will have a lot of the information we need. Um, but yes, I have those papers, so we can go over that. Give me a call sometime next week. Yeah, absolutely. I actually
have a meeting on Tuesday. Um, I'm sorry, Thursday the 10th. So, I did want to work on that over the next few days just so I have an update. Passover's coming up. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. What happens in the
shri they we we um crown and solicited you know some proposals. We got two proposals one of which better than the other and we chose that proposal. Great. So we actually have a proposal. We're ready to go that
we we go forward with now. We want to go forward with that anyway but we have to be careful. We don't want to we want to if you have to have the grant before you spend the money like or sign up to something then we could open up to what
the rules are. Yeah. The grant just says if you've already done it, we'll still give you the money. Mhm. I can't be sure of that. Yeah, I know it's just on a rolling basis and just apply and so I I'm sure proceeding with I'll look for
I'll try and find a name. Okay. Okay. and then we'll connect um and get as much fil. Yeah. Okay. Any others? Since Jack's here on the sustainable jersey itself. Yeah. Is that all up to date or we have
to do anything on that? We're good for another two years. Oh wow. Uh yeah, we got reertified last year and that's good for three. Um obviously we're going to keep working and increasing our environmental achievements and our
points under that system so that we can like get a higher certification. But um you know as far as you know like having to get reertified doesn't that was a good update. Sorry I missed
that one. Jump back to it. Okay. Having sustainable Jersey allows us to apply for certain grants. All right. All right. If that's we have nothing else from anyone to someone just to congratulate you on your jump right into
business. Thank you. Excellent. Thank you. Um do we want to make a motion to adjourn? Who second? I'll second it. But I'm gonna say something. Jack first, Norm
second. Great. Thank you everyone. Byebye.