Good evening everyone. Welcome to the February 5th, 2026 Environmental Commission meeting. Um, can I have a call to order? Member Brandon >> here. >> Member Colton >> here. >> Member Godette,
member Janetti, member Lutz >> here. Member Mammy alternate Baxi >> here. >> Alternate Defilia >> here. >> Miss Telerico. >> Statement of compliance with the open
public meeting law. The notice requirements of the open public meeting law for this meeting have been satisfied. A copy of the annual notice was sent to the Asbury Park Press and the poster, posted in town hall, and filed in the office of the township clerk on June 23rd, 2025. This meeting
will be recorded and available on Ocean Township YouTube channel. Okay. First off, I would like to welcome our new council woman, Grace Anel Rico. >> Thank you so much. >> Our liaison. She will be working with all of us. So, we're excited to welcome you.
>> So, nice to meet everybody. I need to get everybody's name so I remember them. So, I know Norm and Oh my gosh. Ken. >> Ken. Norm and Ken from the last meeting. Julia, Andrew, >> Angel. Angeline. Okay.
>> Oh, I do. I remember you from last meeting. So, >> Nancy >> and Nancy. >> Perfect. Thank you so much for having me and I'm very excited to work with you all. >> Likewise. We'll jump right into it. Um, we have our meeting minutes from
December 11th, 2025 for approval tonight. Um, I've tried to get everyone in the habit we get them emailed to us. Um, we used to we supply copies. So, I hope everyone got a chance to read it over digitally or if they had to make a copy for themselves. I did bring one if
anyone needs to refresh themselves. Um, and once we all have a moment, if I have a motion to approve the minutes. >> So, moved. >> Member Brandon. A second. >> Member Colton. Second. All in favor? I
>> I >> Okay, we do not have any presentations this evening, but we do have some in the queue. Um the gentleman from the literal uh Nancy Literal >> literal literally literal. >> Yeah,
>> but we asked him and he said literal. >> Yes, he was in the booth next to us at the um Great Church Environmental Fair. So we hope to have them at our next meeting. So they will tell you all about themselves then. Um moving on to items
for discussion. Old business the community forestry management plan went in front of the council. I think it was the December 20th meeting. It was a few weeks after we all uh you know had our meeting on the 5th or the 11th. Um and
it passed. We had um a 118page document which basically laid out um you know the verbiage that is necessary but it laid out predicted places for us to put trees and we're moving forward on that
>> norm I feel like you want to say something >> a whole bunch of things how things together so on and so forth you know there's lot of stuff you know but you tie the whole things together okay as Turns out I I submitted
it. Okay. Uh it had to be in by the end of the 31st of December and I was well in front of that at least 34 days. But anyway, but they but I got they got it right and they supposed to review it. They got a checklist. It turns out Donna
just now she printed one out so I can look at it at the meeting. Their comments are back and here it looks like it's in check this point because there a whole bunch of boxes here and if you were >> like we need the mayor signature >> polls like the mayor >> like things Yeah. nothing that you did wrong.
>> Whatever they are whatever they are D is going to pass me that thing. I'll send it out to to whole bunch of people you know the two commissions you know Dave and council members and etc etc etc. And then uh and then of course uh
>> may our contractor okay uh is already obligated to address all these issues. That's why there's a contract. >> So when you send it out make a note so that everybody knows that the contractor is obligated. >> Yeah. Right. But I just said no I'm going to put in the main thing. I'll
probably send Ted in an independent email. >> Thank you. >> Okay. And uh so that'll be sometime tomorrow on a theoretical get to me and do me a favor to call me >> and when I send it. >> Yeah. Because between my Gmail when
things go to >> I will call you not in the inbox anymore. >> Yeah. >> My grandson's bar mitzvah invitation. >> So it's on my in there somewhere. >> Maybe it should be in the inbox.
Um, also moving on through old business, exciting news, we went in front of the council to their workshop meeting. Ken, thank you so much. We had finalized um the developers ordinance to mirror the residential ordinance. So, that is in
motion with Jesse that will be amended to our ordinance and moving forward, we will be filling up our shade tree fund with that new fee. Um you all recall it was 350 for a developer. Now it would be 750. So
>> at the minimum yeah >> slots going forward with larger trees. So >> um a lot of success. I'm giving us check marks. Um Nancy I'm going to throw the next one at you. Skip the stuff because >> it was just going in front of the Senate last time we all met.
>> Yeah. So everybody hear the skip the stuff. It passed through the state. So, it's a statewide uh law now that uh restaurants need to ask before they give out plastic utensils and napkins and condiments and everything. The hard part though, I had a meeting with Beyond
Plastic. That's the group that kind of got this going. And the hard part now is educating the restaurants. So, you know, who's really going to go in there and watch, oh, you gave out a fork. Um, and I asked who is going to be governing this? And they said the county health department. you know, he's not going to
have time to be going out there giving out um you know, reprimands for people giving out forks. So, um >> they're finding the rats. >> But um so once they get more uh flyers and documentation and all, I'm thinking just like before I could go to
restaurants, you know, when I get takeout and did you know and here's a flyer and and just start educating. So, I'm sure there'll be information that'll come out, but I think it's just going to be tough for especially the restaurants that do a lot of takeout to um to really
be aware and to get into the habit of asking. So, but it's a start. >> So, good news. >> Great. Yes, it'll be slow and then it'll pick up on the traction. >> Yeah, I think they have until July. There's a grace period to before it gets enforced. So, yeah.
>> Does it cover just plastic utensils? So, it's plastic utensils, napkins, condiments, straws. They're just supposed to ask, "Do you need anything when you get your takeout?" >> I was I was just on a trip and all the takeout included bamboo, Texas.
>> Nice. Where did you go? >> Egypt. >> Okay. Yeah. Because I was in Scotland and the same thing. There was no plastic anywhere. Every restaurant, even a casual restaurant, had actual silverware. And if you really wanted something to go, it was bamboo. And I'm
like, why are we always the last thing? You know, we're still in this throwaway society. So, it's good to hear, >> but other countries are doing that. >> That's great. Um did they refer you on our web our
environmental commission web page to put in like maybe a blurb about this new um law or would it be under like when you get your bid license for ocean >> they talked about that about >> what about license I do food license
>> okay so it could just be page of red >> like an update >> yeah that would be great I mean there's many places like that but I think all of it. >> Yeah, definitely all of it. And I even found I contacted the women from the
Greek Orthodox Church that we went to and they put me in touch with a group that is called like the Greek Diner Management New Jersey organization that like all of these Greek owned
restaurants usually belong to. So that's a great resource to just send out stuff to them and be like, "Hey, did you know this is statewide now?" >> Covers half the restaurants that we >> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So I had no idea there was something like that. >> The diners any
>> Yeah. >> What about the food trucks? >> I think there's a lot that are um you know, it's optional for them. Schools they said it does not apply to. So, I'm guessing the food trucks probably doesn't apply to either. I would think
it's really for the most part like a traditional restaurant. >> Feel like a food truck. They're like in your face handing you your food where with the to- go you get the bag and you open it and they threw like 50 forks in there or whatever they threw in there. That that's what is more leaning towards being like don't just throw it in there.
>> You got to remember this is going to save money. >> Exactly. And that's the biggest point. Yeah. >> So the fact that it's not mandatory, I would expect they would still >> pick up. Sure. >> Just on their own. >> Exactly. >> They probably want to put signs up so
that they don't irk the customers when customers expect it. >> Yeah. And that's what this Beyond Plastic, they have flyers and they're going to change it now to say now it's a law, but something that you could put right where you pick up your takeout, right? And there'll be a big sign there, you know, do you need? And some of like the Chinese food restaurants, they have
a table right there where you pick up and it's got all the stops. You can grab what you want, but they're not automatically putting it in. So restaurants could do that, too. Just leave it there. It can take it. >> You should maybe suggest somehow that standard sign.
>> Yeah. >> Like the no >> that could be provided that could be provided all the restaurants can just and free. >> Yeah. And that's what the Skip the Stuff and I mean the Beyond Plastic Group is working on. So they're going to make a standard flyer that anybody can use.
It'll be free on their site and that's what everyone will have the same. They want to come up with like a catchy slogan because most people they don't really know what that means. Skip the stuff. They're like, "What stuff? Skip what? What am I skipping?" So they want to come up something short but more to the point about plastic and utensils. So
they're working on that. But yeah, I agree. It's basically it's basically save their planet. Just just take what you need. >> We should take that to the kids. >> Yeah. >> Have them you know the competition we do. >> Yeah. >> That might be a good idea. >> Why don't you do that
>> instead of the recycling contest? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I have this under new business so we can like talk to this if you want. >> Why? >> True. But I mean, you know, Ocean Township started and now they're doing what Ocean Township is doing.
Yeah. >> Okay. Oh, thank you, Nancy. Very exciting and your dedication to that and seeing it through. I know it's great. >> Okay. From your lips to God's. >> All right. New. Does anyone want to add anything?
And you're rather quiet. >> I got NY's got it. I got nothing. >> Yeah. >> Um, okay. new business. I met with our new council woman and we were throwing around, you know, our
concerns and I expressed to her things we have like the um gas powered lawnmowers and the sound pollution and we were and with Ken's great ordinance writing, we were thinking of trying to implement
some kind of weekend moratorum because um I I don't think our DPW works on the weekend. So, you know, it's tough for us to push something on residents when our DPW is, you know, using the gas powered powered stuff. So, if possibly
on the weekend, we could ban the use of that. And also more so, a lot of tree work goes on, believe it or not, on Saturday and Sunday when our code enforcement's not around. It would also be under that umbrella as well, like no tree work. So,
>> they're already not supposed to. That's an ordinance currently. >> Well, I think it's like an unwritten law that you're not supposed to do it, but they do it. >> It was written. I think it is written on Sunday.
>> Unwritten or tree work. No tree work on Sundays. I think really >> Okay. Well, that's great. >> I think that's >> um so if we could pull up that exact appendex because I would like it revised to include um Saturday. I mean with you
know your guys' feedback heater um and the gas kind of things right over but right but as homeowners that's the only chance they get as opposed to commercial just >> commercial guys also I mean they would
want to pay work eight days a week if they could try to make a living so all I'm saying is I'm not sure what the ideal solution >> yeah we're just leaning more towards like quality of life like noise pollution and trees coming down. >> That's why there are some towns, but
they're actually like spending money. >> You have to have >> Yeah, smaller towns can can fight that. I I I would love for that to be an ocean, but I just >> We're a huge town. >> Well, I think there's some places that
have more trees than like and smaller lawns, you know, like smaller lawns, more trees. Maybe like parts of Wanamasa that there are other parts of Wanasa that have like so much so much so many leaves, right? Wayside, forget it. Like nobody's gonna be able to rake be able. Yeah, I know. It's it's a it's just
electric sort of everything. They do and the prices have come down a little bit but um but I don't know if there's a way for us to volunteer. >> Yeah. Um, Nancy, didn't you say there's someone in town like the green team?
their their lawns are identified with a um something green and I think they basically like show that their household follows >> well I mean there's a couple of groups and one is the green yard project and that's about that you know you're not
fertilizing and you're not using pesticides and you're planting native plants but I don't know if it goes as far as that >> why aren't you >> well just here manure >> the runoff that goes into the watered that. So I thought that was like more so
like saying like we're you know living with these values and it's identified through I see the sign on the lawn there's one in one amassa. >> Yeah. >> Um like you're saying a group of people who kind of start smaller. You think like an area geographically? >> May maybe because it might work out. I
just I was it's just people who maybe want to identify themselves as people who use who use electric like the more people know that people are using it in their community they'll maybe they'll be more apt to use it you know >> I I don't know if that's just a soft way
of introducing it there people know about it I think there are some people who prefer it because it's light especially you know like if um if you don't have a lot of space or smaller you know >> I feel like people who are doing it themselves like they have them
>> but I think the companies that come and don't use them. >> I mean RDPW doesn't use them. >> Are there other towns that have put up a ban that we can look at what they do? >> Spring Lake, Red Bay. >> Red Maplewood do them >> possibly.
>> Princeton has >> And is it like certain days of the week or is it just ever? >> Ever. >> Really? It's just >> but I think they're small like >> they're smaller towns and then there's a lot of support and I think a lot of the housing looks very similar like Spring Lake
>> everything looks similar you know and there's not as much foliage as there is here >> right >> so >> yeah so that back into like the weekend moratorum with you know saying I guess
more so is this written in our ordinance because I've Yeah, I I don't think it is. I think it's almost like just the thing like Sunday like take the load off like not, you know, >> not sure. So maybe come up with
>> he would know. Um so new business, you know, getting Hi, >> getting we passed the one ordinance with the town. So the momentum of just you know refining and making sure things are done right
>> but it's two separate issues right? >> Yeah. >> One is the trees at least on Sunday maybe that's already possibly on Saturday >> and the other is electric. >> Yes. >> Equipment. >> Yeah.
>> Course I understand electric leaf blowers are just as noisy. >> Really? I I think leaf blowers are probably more um more uh like easily adoptable than the actual lawn mower because sometimes
people need to sit on their lawn, you know, like they they have the >> the standing or the dried on or something like that. Those are they those would take substantial battery, >> but the actual leaf blower might be actually an easier thing to motors are not
they're not really as loud, >> right? It's the leaf blower. >> I do see what Norm's saying. This is you know >> people rely on which I you don't want to either >> too. >> So it is a tough thing but it's you know conversations we have to have.
made by the >> red back but >> yeah they I think we we actually have a presentation from Spring Lake that was circulated a few meetings ago um because someone wrote a letter at when you were chaired um basically or it might have
been right when I took over someone had reached out >> we've gotten a couple of them over the years >> from residents that would support going that way >> I mean look it's totally different but and I don't know if you heard it but one of my neighbors when we had that snowstorm was out there all day with his
leaf blower to keep the snow off of his walk and driveway and it was all day. So like >> was it effective? >> I don't know. I didn't go out there. I was sitting cozy in my living room watching with Paul saying I will deal
with it later. >> And I did. >> Is it still noisy? is >> and it's powdery sound. It works. >> It's loud, but it's it's the motor itself turning electrically instead of dancing, so to speak. It's got a
generator wind. >> All right. Well, we shall say just one thing. So it does say that our um ordinance says it limits the operation of heavy machinery and excavation to Monday through Saturday implying that large scale tree removal
involving heavy equipment should not occur on Sundays. >> Okay. >> So that is part of the origins. You're absolutely right. >> So I guess when it comes down to it when you see you know the complaints that people threw down they have to call the police. They see something they have to say something. um that's the only way,
you know, we don't know what's going on. Um so we rely on that for everyone listening at home. Um please reach out because you know code enforcement's not there on Sunday. So
>> the rule is the police. >> Okay. Here. Yeah. >> You call the police >> and they know there's no code enforcement and they go out far as I know. I know they provide as far as Ken Ken calls them every weekend.
>> So that's on Sunday, but what about Saturday? So you still need it? >> Yeah. >> Correct. >> So if there's no permit, then we call the police. >> Is that how it can do that? >> So we have an ordinance that if you're cutting down the tree, you have to
display the tree. I'm looking at them because they wrote it and they should know. Um you have to display it in your window. Y >> Okay. So, I guess if a neighbor saw this work going on and didn't see it in the window, that would be their indication to um notify someone. But what's
frustrating is you see that, you know, they take it to um you know, the internet. And people say, "Oh, you have to call the police and they go, "Oh, I don't want to be that neighbor." So, it's kind of it's tough. So, >> that's the only way. But is there an
online they can >> a portal >> like an anonymous portal with the police station? >> Does it have to be the police? >> Well, if it was like Saturday or Sunday. >> Oh, you mean like through during the week? >> I mean, if a neighbor had seen this on
Saturday and then put in the portal and then send it to code enforcement. >> No, wait. >> But how is that going to stop? >> Yeah. like it's a 911 situation to me. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Yeah.
>> Um so going on to say is any very good on that subject we it's written in the ordinance on Sunday and you know reach out to us even if you see something I will make the call. >> Um >> that doesn't mean they don't some of
them don't show up on a Sunday either. I think these guys read their ordinances. What do you guys think about someone who's um you know an actual company is out there who has a mercenile license with the town on a Sunday? They're obviously violating our code. Do we
revoke their license and prohibit them from working in our town? >> I don't know what I don't know what happens. >> It's a lot of like you know citations, a lot of warnings I feel like. >> Good question.
So it it, you know, it is an issue, >> the trees coming down without permits and you know what goes on on the weekends and I think that's just why we're kind of hitting this one hard. So >> we will keep this on the agenda so we can
>> reassemble our ideas March or April when the snow melts. >> Yeah. >> Start to see some of that. >> All right. So I had the recycling contest. It's the glacier >> because it's already February. Next
month's March, so we're just moving right along. School will be out before we know it. >> Um, so yeah, the recycling contest we engaged the students last year. Very good uh support from the Wayside
Elementary School and the fourth graders amongst middle schoolers and some high schoolers. No, no high schoolers. One >> I don't think we wound up getting any worse for the high school. No, but the the younger classes um younger classmen really engaged and it was exciting. So,
we would like to keep the momentum this year, but with our latest get this stuff kind of plastic that we were just talking about, do we want to come up with some kind of catchy slogan? see if we can like bring in the the
students kind of knowing about plastic and not wanting that part of their lunch experience or should we just like keep the, you know, don't reinvent the wheel, keep going with our recycling contest. >> But skip the skip the stuff is aimed at
the at the restaurants. >> But what about an awareness campaign for people not to to use. >> Oh yeah. Like the real like video can can be the students. You're saying making awareness >> for not not the restaurants but for
residents not to take so much plastic and straws out. Residents should >> Yeah. Don't be wasting possible >> like a reusable like >> and people should be attuned to that since I think
>> what about the kids saying oh like almost having a little having a creative video that says oh do you even know about skip this stuff you know we're not going to get this stuff anymore we better pack our own utensils or oh you know let's just not ask for it because we don't need it. What are we going to
do? My my cabinets are overflowing. It could actually get kind of comical, too. Like, oh no, my my drawer won't open. It has so much stuff in it. Right. Like like So maybe that would be the way of the kids talking about like just general awareness of what Skip Stuff is or maybe
them going to a restaurant telling them like, "Hey, you know, like we don't want your we don't want this or something." You know what I mean? They could show up at their school with their own utensils like Yeah. >> we were giving away, you know. >> So that could be one of their videos sort of like I got my own utensils.
>> Yes. >> I like that. >> I mean, you know, the children of the future, they might they might be like, "What? Those are like the rotary phone, those plastic forks." You know, you never know. So,
I think the videos were very it made the students engaged and um I don't know if you I'm like kind of like a should we focus strictly on skip this stuff or should it just be like waste in general? >> I think the skip the stuff is is is
on point right now. Maybe >> this would be bringing them something new like new education to our students about current legislation. How how old is this? >> How old is old? >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Right. So, it's a bas. So, how many people start to ask people on the street? How many people on the street know about this? >> Right. Not too many. >> Yes. >> So, it's I think it's a good if we don't if we don't take six months to get it
out there. >> Yeah. even then if you want the truth I think it get two years to get out there. >> I mean I can only imagine um Miss Edson's you know she'll probably give a quick introduction to to it to her students in a discussion and then they can run with it. So that's exciting. All
right, we will get that in the works. >> Cool. Um and this kind of like led me to like the waste and the Bradley Beach shed that um is going viral. >> Yeah. and how important it is. Um,
>> they had erected a shed and it's for residents there only. Um, people can just go put in things that they don't use anymore like >> mostly furniture. >> Mostly furniture, >> larger items. It is a a a way to recycle
larger items like you know on like our bulk pickup and you drive by, wow, that's a really good couch. I would have taken that but it rained last night. Now it is ruined. This is a chance for people who have things that they just don't have space for that are still in good condition, still serviceable that
they could sell, that they could donate. But this is another option for them to put it in this shed and then someone comes and takes it if they want. And then after x number of days of something being in the shed, it winds up wherever the rest of our bulk pickup >> lines.
Sure, but we're not trying to make money. We're just trying to keep stuff out of the land that many people want to get rid of. >> Sure. People feel guilty. Lean into the >> So, where is this thing? I know we can't go to it. But
>> um it's I think it's like right near their they have like some municipal buildings towards the end of their boardwalk. I think that's where it is, but I have to double check. >> Yeah, >> but it's just in a parking lot. I guess if you're a resident >> it probably but I was actually think
like it is literally like the a Home Depot parking lot shed. It's like the size of a parking spot or two. So like think like a tailgate tent type of deal. You could put it you can put it probably wouldn't put it here parking site, but you can put it over by the senior
center. You could put it over by the uh the recreation department in the back there. You could put it by the library. There are places where it could go because it's not enormous that people will be able to go and >> What happens when you >> Well, that's that's part of it is DPW
keeps tabs on it, make sure that junk's not getting put in there. Right. Part of this is it has to be something people would take, right? Like if you have like a couch, right? >> Yeah. Exactly. They're not taking any of my stuff normally.
>> But but part of it is also like there's a time limit and DPW keeps, you know, tabs on it. It's been there for I don't I don't remember what their time was. It was like four weeks or something. They just take it out and they throw it in the land, right? It's going to wind up in the landfill. This is just giving people an opportunity to take and swap
before that. So >> yeah, it's not actively managed, right? >> No one's there. >> I don't believe. >> Yeah. Yeah, that is what something I'm curious about. Like does every resident get a key? No, obviously not. Like do
they go to services and they get a key? Like I thought possibly. >> So if it's located near human services, that could be one option. You can only put in during certain hours. >> Yeah. >> You don't want people leaving stuff in
>> outside the shed cameras on it. It'd be great to partner them with the help seat stuff, too. You know, have a whole section of >> things, drop off your clothing, and then
yeah, bring or take furniture, you know, we could create a whole I know. I like was thinking it was almost like an everything free Ocean Township like in person, which you know, sometimes I don't know. It's a great thing for I'm
not using all the stuff in my kitchen and someone else like needs it and it's here you go take it free. >> I just it's probably a lot to oversee. But >> there is something called free cycle.
>> Um we I don't think the town has signed up for it but you basically say hey I'm getting rid of this thing. You put it on this website then anybody can come and claim it. >> Yeah. And it's like pretty much everything free Ocean Township. >> That's and yeah, I've given away tons of
things on there >> or pick up and they come get it. So >> it it can also be done like maybe piloted as like a once a month thing like you bring it to this place or like the place opens once a month and you go and you shop there for a month and it
could be like a community event almost, you know, like everybody's out there seeing what else is there, you know, >> like a townwide garage. It could be but once a month fake where you bring like >> I don't know I could see those >> I see two people that want that chair
>> having a problem. We have it once a month now for the book trash pickup but you have to drive down >> burn a lot of fuel stuff. You know, before I moved down here, and the reason that I I particularly love this idea,
before I moved down here, I remember very distinctly, there was a bulk pickup in the town I lived in where someone put out a baby grand piano >> on the side of the street and it was in good condition and one of my neighbors wanted it and got like 10 teenagers to
like roll his thing down the hill and up the hill and Yeah. But you you I'm sure you're not, but like we'll throw out >> really nice stuff. >> It's hard to get rid of it. >> It is hard to get rid. >> Yeah.
>> Pianos are not like But I I would like because I know people watch at home. I would like to shout out um everything free Ocean Township because I think they're very good at being on anyone like you know taking more than giving or scammers on that site and it's an
amazing pipeline for >> nonwaste and it going to good homes. So shout out to those members if they're members of the community if they're watching. Okay, so that's exciting about a recycling contest. 2022 is now going
to be called what should be called? Skip the stuff contest. >> Yeah, >> we'll come up with something catchy. Um, all right, moving right along. A plan review committee. Norm, do we have any plans in the queue?
>> I look at the minutes. Um, it said there was anything. >> Oh, what's going on? >> Well, the Hollywood club, they're doing they're doing some kind of a modification. club house some they haven't even done this stuff that's approved already they're going to change
a few things and they're gonna have some kind of a >> yeah I thought that was old >> a small pump house they're going to build and so on and so forth and they went through a lot of stuff they're going to take down some trees that they're allowed to take down anyway
you know based on what they do but >> is this a new replacement but they said we're going to plant some trees somewhere eventually this >> we discussed this like two months ago. >> Brand new. I think I'm not sure who was going to be on this meeting that got snowed out. >> Oh,
>> but they might have been on >> for a planning board cuz we got snowed out. >> We got out. Yeah. But I don't remember deal being on the agenda. >> Might have been the other one. There were two plans that I did. >> Okay.
>> The other one's the subdivision. That's the other big one that's coming up. subdivision on Les Park. >> That was already >> No, that's what it was. No, that's the one that was What? Weren't you going to hear that that day? >> That's nothing to do with the golf course though.
>> No, no, two things I did reports on. >> Oh, okay. But I saw Hollywood in this one. >> Yeah, the other one's that >> at the same time. So, which one was in which meeting? I >> Yeah, we were going to hear the subdivision, but it got snowed out. So, it's on February. No, but on that anyway, I'll tell you that.
There was some mostly some weird stuff about one so many of the things involved. I'm not sure about some of the water some of it. What's her name? That's right on the street next to that.
>> Yeah. Right. Right. Okay. So because the thing they have a whole bunch of stuff they're going to collect water inlets and everything but suddenly the thing the thing was going to drop in about 10 ft. was dropping two or three feet and it's like ridiculous like something
like this and it was and I say how you going to wait what I mean I'm point out you got to do something about that because the inlets there's two inlets here but the whole thing's across an area 40 ft or something other than that as I understand it I don't know what they're going to do
they're just looking to get the subdivision approved I don't know if they're going to even they build streets or not I don't even >> well no but in order now to do the subdivisions, they have to um I forget the exact trigger, but for what they're going to do, they have to essentially
establish an HOA and deal with storm water management for the whole subdivision. So, I don't think they're planning I think they're going to map out the lots. I don't think they're planning on building anything just yet, but >> they're going to put the street in. >> I don't know. >> Where is it located?
>> Do you remember the old nursery on West Park by the post office? that two or three lots. >> No, I thought it was more than that. I thought it was like five. >> No, no, I mean lots of existing. >> Oh. Oh, yeah.
>> It's not just that nursery. >> Yeah. They're going to put in seven or eight. >> Yeah. of which is a potential >> and then other than that
I guess no update because our meeting was snowed out. Um but we didn't meet in January. So do you remember a December like 30th meeting? >> Yes, >> we
>> was that other crazy meeting. I'm trying to remember now. We had that really wild meeting um where nothing went right. Do you remember that one? >> Oh, that was that meeting? >> Yeah, that was that one. Yeah, >> nothing went right. >> Um yeah, we had an an update from the
area needed redevelopment study for the other end of West Park and they are apparently coming back again in February for reasons. I don't know. We approved it, so I don't know. They're coming back again. Um we also had an applicant. I don't even remember it's for because we
couldn't hear them because him to the zoning board. >> No, we didn't have they didn't notice. They didn't notice because they had variances that they needed. They were coming in for like a minor modification. Oh, I remember it
was it was Yeah, they were changing they were making modification to the plans for the number of um bedrooms in these two houses. And then when we looked at the plans, they realized that they extended the driveway which triggered a variance and they hadn't noticed for a variance. So then we had to go back. We
essentially said come back after you've done all your notices. So um there was that one. Then it was oh and then we did the storm water updates to the master plan. Um which we've done previously but we
hadn't incorporated them in town as an amendment to the master plan. So, it's just a bureaucratic thing that we had to do. Although, I don't know if it's on your list, Julia, the the NJ packed wheel. >> No. >> Um, so this is planning board related as
well. So, New Jersey changed their and I forget what this there's two acronyms. It's >> MS board. >> No, hold on. I Googled this. Hold on, hold on, hold on. This is going to
bother me. Protecting against climate threats colon resilient environments and landscapes and jpacked wheel. Um, and it is a a major overhaul to all of our storm water and flood hazard area building rules.
So, a lot of it has to do with if it changes some of the flood zones um, and accounts for the storms that we're having now. So, it changes what's in not in a flood zone and it changes the requirements if you're building in a flood zone, which you shouldn't be doing anyways, but if you are, it changes the
building standards for them. It changes some of the stormwater rules again to make them a little more stringent. Um, and there's timelines. So, these also just went into effect a couple weeks ago. So applicants like the subdivision
and everything else, they'll probably grant be grandfathered in for 180 days because they were deemed complete, but by the time like this subdivision doesn't include any construction. So by the time they come back to construct, they'll be under the new rules. So and
we need to do a I'm going to try and get someone into the planning board to do a presentation on them because it's a lot in >> Well, thank you for that introduction on it. Makes sense. >> Yeah. I I mean, it's everything that D's
been doing with green infrastructure and trying to get people to not build in flood zones because you continue to build in flood zones and then we're like shocked when we see, oh, there's cars floating down the street because they built in a flood zone. Like I Yeah, that's what's going to happen. Um, so
New Jersey is getting serious about trying to stop that. When you say they're changing the flood zones designations are actually the boundaries of where >> Oh, so like the the 500 I think it's the 100 500 year storms that changed the calculations which changes the flood zones, right? So what was in a 100redy
year zone is no longer it's now like a 100 day zone, right? Um and so the 500 years so they've changed the calculations to expand them. >> So we gonna have new maps for >> I think so. Are these different than the FEMA maps?
>> Yes. They shouldn't be, but they are. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Yeah. >> So, which ones do the insurance companies? >> Usually FEMA. >> Yeah. There's a whole different >> Yeah. >> layering of >> But ocean has gaps in our FEMA maps. So,
people build there because they're not in flood zones, but they're in flood zones. So, >> all right, moving along to I will give a quick report just let you guys know what it's been going on. Um Nancy and I
attended and Angela and Ed the environmental fair at the St. George Orthodox Church right down the street on West Park. Um that was a few weeks ago like we told the council we met with surrounding towns people on
environmental commissions from Shrewsbury and I believe in town. Nancy connected with the women further. She us regarding the restaurants. So it was a good opportunity to get out there meet with you know more of the community and
we had a wheel of course. So, if you spun the wheel, you got to win one of our many prizes. So, it was exciting day. The kids love the wheel. Um, moving on to the green communities cleanup. The date is May 16th. So, save
the date. It'll be at Joe Fa Park with a rain day May 17th. Um, when Renee Rosado sat with us a few months ago, we said that we would be happy to collaborate with her for communities clean.
She wants us all to be prepared to join. Yes, Norm. >> Oh, I thought you were gonna say something. Um, does anyone have any >> sleep? >> I am. >> I wasn't really ready to >> Maybe it's because it's 10 to 9. Um,
just a note on the clean communities. That's a group too that the plastic thing they're going to work really closely with them. >> Oh, good. >> So, they're counting on them to really just, you know, share the info and everything. Cool. Yes. I'm sure she'll get info from the state. This is a new
thing we need to promote >> and she'll be implementing it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Um attendee member remarks and >> I just have a question for Ed. Uh what's the status in merging the um
>> they'll happen in when the town reward was in June every year town reorganizes and this year when they reorganized combine the planning and zoning board part of that process. >> No idea. It's a great question. Norm
>> the bored. Yes. >> Anyone? Anyone at home? >> I just had one final thing I wanted to know. Does anybody know if we have a balloon release ordinance? You know, a ban on balloon release. >> I highly doubt that. >> Okay. Did anyone see that in the coaster
a couple weeks ago? somebody in Neptune, they let go of like a hundred balloons and like Cindy Zip from Clean Ocean Action wrote like a whole letter to the editor and like you know what are you doing? So it's yeah with us being so close to the beach and all something I'd
love to look into. >> Why did someone release 100 balloons some celebration or memorial? I don't even remember. It was just But the the sad part is that the coaster put it on the front page like, "Hey, it did this balloon release." And I was just like,
>> we're totally missing how bad that is. >> So, like, how do we how do we look into do we have that? Can we get that? >> Camera is going to go up against Big Balloon. And I'm not even joking when I say they're one of the most powerful
lobbies in the state. They have an insane track record of killing these ordinances. >> Really? >> It's absurd. >> I'm not joking. Big balloon. >> Yeah, the balloon the balloon lobby is legit. >> Must live on. >> Yeah,
>> I'll see like if other towns have Yeah. >> of it, you know. >> Yeah. You know, there are two islands, but only one may still exist. >> Not anymore. >> We just did, right? >> No more.
>> Like two weeks ago, >> we gave them away >> to >> See? Yeah. >> Yeah. Like two weeks ago. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I know. >> I'm sad about that. >> I like Shrewsbury River.
All right. Do I have a motion to adjourn? >> So move. >> Brandon second. Sorry, Ken. Dor beat you. >> It's okay. That's the way it is.
>> All right, guys. >> Yeah. >> Sorry. I I >> All in favor, it's your job. Yeah. And look at rules of order. >> Look, when I did the minutes,
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