Environmental Commission September 4th, 2025 meeting. Do I start with the statement in compliance or the roll call? Roll call. Okay. Member Brandon, member Colton here. Member Guadette, I'm here.
Member Janetti, member Lutz here. Member Mammy. Alternate faxi here. Alternate defilia here. Statement of compliance with the open public meetings law. The notice requirements of the open open public
meeting law for this meeting have been satisfied. A copy of the annual notice was sent to the Asbury Park Crest and the Coaster posted in the town hall and filed in the office of the township clerk on June 23rd, 2025. This meeting will be recorded and
available on Ocean Township's YouTube channel. All right. Meeting minutes for approval. The August 7th meeting minutes. Did everyone get a chance to review them? I reviewed them earlier. I don't have
them in front of me. Can I get a motion? Oh, I I reviewed them earlier because I was like, "No need to print these." Yeah. I'll make a motion to approve. Motion by Ed. Do I have a second?
I'll second. All in favor? I I We have no presentations this evening. I I kind of cleaned out our old business and we're all fresh on new business tonight. So, right to pending plans. Norm, is
there anything in the docket? I haven't comments on houses and the firehouse been over hoping to see came here earlier today. wasn't here.
Someone else told me they thought the whole thing was already I I mean I remember proving that a few years ago that came before not this not on echo that's
I honestly don't remember I know that we approved something and that they were doing it so you mentioned this I don't know so I I don't have I looked at it wasn't too bad. They put in two trees. Not much space going to be left.
I think they're putting in the base. Thank you. On the wicked pepper side and then on the side going north on the north side. I think expand. So they're coming back in front of the board. Sounds like it. I don't know which board they're in
front of. They're in front of planning. Yeah. Yeah. was not a use change. Um, while we're on the subject of planning, they're coming out with the sidewalk. Um, do you want to update us on the applications last week's meeting?
Sure. We last week already. Yeah. Two weeks ago, I think last Monday. Yeah, two weeks ago. Two weeks from upcoming Monday. Um, we just had two subdivisions, one of which we' already subdivided. There was a subdivision down on Wikipico by the
church that's just north of the golf course. We had subdivided it, but there was a lot line. The survey was incorrect and needed to be modified. So, they came back for a resubdivision which was minor. And there was another subdivision.
I can't think of the name of the street, but it was totally conforming. They were splitting an oversized lot into two conforming lots, so it was very quick and painless. What street was that? Was that one of the ones I saw? I think it was I think so. Yes, it was.
There's one on Norway Avenue. That was the one on Norway. Yeah. Building a house already. Yeah. And they were just subdividing it into conforming a need of redevelopment. Um, we appointed a firm to begin area
needed redevelopment study for I don't remember the block off the top of my head. Um, what was 35 close to West Park? Trying to remember exactly where now
35 east or west side of west I think. I'm trying to see it in my mind. It was West. Do you remember, Julia? So, what do you mean by redevelopment? So, there's in New Jersey redevelopment law, there's areas that need rehabilitation,
areas that needed redevelopment, areas need redevelopment with condemnation. And they are just essentially designations that tag certain parts of a municipality for redevelopment, which essentially the short version of it is
that private capital is not by itself enough to bring the sites into good working order. So the partner with the municipality to
come up with redevelopment plans to help make them viable to be rehabilitated or redeveloped and something else can be done there. And when you enter into the way the process works is the council says, "Hey, we think this area might
need be an area need of redevelopment." Then it comes to the planning board. We conduct a study and it has to meet a whole bunch of different criteria which is too long to go through now but we review the study once it's completed. We say either yes it meets the criteria being an area in need of redevelopment
or no it doesn't assume that it does. We send that recommendation back to the council. The council can accept our findings on the area of need of redevelopment and then they can create redevelopment plans with the property owner and those redevelopment plans can
include any number of additional tools which can be tax incentives, they could be pilots, they can be any sort of different mechanism to assist private capital to be able to redevelop. This was like one. Yeah, was it was one and Does the
property owner have the right to say no? Yes, they they can come so they can they can come and oppose the findings in the report. Um but once it's tagged an area of red need of redevelopment, I mean it's it's
an area need of redevelopment. What 99% of the time most people don't care. It's good for them. it's tax incentives or it's health or bonuses where people do not like it and they try to oppose it is when condemnation's involved. All
areas needed redevelopment. New Jersey used to have the possibility of condemnation until a few years ago and then they bifurcated that process. You can do it with or without now. Um what we did over at um Orchard Plaza was an area in need of
redevelopment with the option for condemnation which does not mean it's going to be condemned. It's just an option on the table again because private capital is not capable of doing their redevelopment on itself. Um but my understanding is that since that was
approved and I could be mistaken. This is just my understanding. So if I misspe I apologize that new ownership has taken control and the it is unlikely that it will eminent domain that parcel but
that's just that that's probably a true statement. Yeah. Thanks Jeff. No problem. All right. Shall we hop to the green team report and update on greenfest? Sure. So, I think it's going well. I
reached out to Jen yesterday for recreation, so um we didn't hear back from her, but I had personally got 10 like nonprofit vendors who had and um but that's not including ones that are just coming through her. Yeah. So, there could be a lot.
This is for our green space. Yeah, that's great. Um so, you know, she sends out notices to the list that she's had for many years and a lot of them are duplicated. Um, so she could have a whole bunch more and so she just said she was doing, you know, 10 other things and she'll get
back to me and she'll send me a list. Um, so yeah, so far so good. And the only thing I wanted to check is, um, Deepa Asani, her son was going to make a sign for us so we can put something up that just says, you know, this is the green area. And I think we were all under the impression we could spend a
little money, right? $100 or something. Didn't you say that last month that um, we we allocated our $400? Yeah. I doubt we'll spend more than a hundred. So, it'll be, you know, a vinyl. The only thing I want to talk to either maybe Mike and Recreation or
somebody is just, you know, how do we put it there? Do we get two stakes and put it in the ground or Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. Something to make it like designated as a sign like that. Um, yeah. I figured, you know, why is there an option for you to get like
self-supporting? I don't know. I don't know about sticks. I don't know about the sticks, but you can have something flimsy, but you have to then get another board anyway. Yeah. Where you get something that's stiffish now. Okay. And then you just put a couple of sticks
in the ground somehow. Yeah. Maybe when you're shopping for it, we can see if like putting it on a yard sign is And then we'll reuse it all the time. Yeah. Yeah. Because this wouldn't have a date or anything. It would just say, you know, whatever we want to say that we
can keep reusing. Maybe it should just say Greenfest. That way, if we do an actual Greenfest, there's another sign. Maybe it could be like that green or like township logo like just green. And I don't know, somehow it was cloth
or something or plastic instead of just something that could tear because then you could roll it up and you get the two sticks and you come up with a way. Yeah, that's a good idea. Yeah, but yeah, I don't think it'll be more than $100. I'm thinking much less than that. So, I'll um I'll ask Jen,
too. What does she envision as far as how she puts up signs if she ever needs to and see what she recommends and um yeah, so along so, you know, hopefully that'll all work out well and uh we'll see for
next year. Flag, you know, something like that. That's a good idea. And you know what I mean? And reusable and reusable. Yeah. So, just just I'm just curious for the uh for the for our green fall fest green
fest. Are most of us going to be there or what what's the thinking? I'll be there. At least I mean ideally like for next year if this all happens again we really should have a table for environmental
commission green team. Is there a reason is there a reason why we can't have a table now for that? Well, does anyone want to man it? We could and have like um what are the some kind of stopping thing like whether it's a little mini photo booth or
something for sure. Yeah, it'd be nice if it'd be nice also if we uh you know had like a signup sheet in case somebody wants to volunteer. Yeah. You know. Yeah. I I mean it would be nice if we could ask is coming. Yeah,
that'll be with in the green space. Okay. How long is this event? It's like 10 to 2 or 11 to 3. I forget. I'll have to look up the flyer for you. For you, Norm. It's 7 in the morning to 7 at night. That's for you. Those are the hours I won't be there, John. Mail out to everyone on the board
and see um if people should dedicate an hour here or that day. Sorry. So, if we do do a table, we really need an activity. So, um, you know, and I'm encouraging all the nonprofits, don't just show up with a brochure on your
table. You need an activity to draw the family over. The kids do the activity and you talk to the parents about whatever it is that you do. So, you know, we probably would need something that we could entertain the kids. But, but Nancy, couldn't Nancy, couldn't we just have a couldn't we just have um,
you know, a table that kind of talks about what Jay Tree Commission's doing? Most people don't even know what we're focused on and maybe even about the the five, you know, the five-year plan we're trying to do. And maybe we could do something that's just informational for people. Yeah. No, absolutely. But I just I think
it would be good to to get the parents to stop by. When you just see literature, you might not even stop by. No, like a color. One one time years ago, we took all these um uh used bottles, you know,
soda bottles, and we're showing kids how to make bird feeders because you basically punch a hole through them and stick a rod through. I love that. That's cool. Yeah. So yeah, I agree. Like something to lure them in even if it's a crayon and you
know we gave out fake tattoos for the deal like watershed last year and you know so the kids all showed up they're like I want a tattoo. Yeah. And at least you know they came over and then you could talk to the parents about what you're doing and all. And the key is drawing the kids over but
then the parents come. Exactly. October 4th is a Sunday, right? A Saturday. Oh the rain dates the 5th is the next day. Okay. All right. Maybe we can, you know, and we would just obviously go through that um
nonprofit voucher um that you sent out. I mean, she'd probably want to have the table like accounted for, right? Because they have the table for us. Well, um I talked to Mike and he said he he's like, "I'll get you a table." Okay. Um Yeah. EC specifically.
Yeah. They're not doing tables for any nonprofits this year, but I said, I know this is like, you know, a sensitive ask, but could we get one just for the environmental commission? She's like, I'll get you a table. Last year, they were like, we need 20 tables and we need 40 chairs. And it became a thing to do.
Okay. So, maybe we can send an email, see who would be available to come for a little bit, and then maybe outside of this, we can those few people can hop on a call and decide kind of what we want to do out of the day. Is that okay? Okay.
Yeah, even just email it around obviously. That's great. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I'm probably going to reach out now that school started to that she might have an idea of what we could do with the team. That would be wonderful. I was um thinking after we all spoke, I would email them and like but wait a minute
because it was like the first day of school. Um but yeah, and even if there's students like volunteers that want to sit with us at the environmental table, you know, um I I wanted to ask if we were gonna have a table if we can do sneaker collection because that I feel like it
was wildly popular in the town except for the collection just after I left PTA was really I don't think they took it but like I think people liked to bring their sneakers so they keep them out of the landfill. So like maybe that's something that we could collect.
Um I don't think it's that big of a reach to, you know, now that we've promoted that we'll be there, we're collecting old sneakers and we would just need bins and stuff like that or just garbage bags and then we could bring them to Wayside School, which is where they collect them and
then Okay. What do they do with these? So there's this the environmental question may be able to actually or the town may be able to do something with them too, but basically there's an organization called bot sneakers and they will take the old sneakers that come in a pair and if
they're in very good condition um they will give you like give the organization like $7 for them or if they're in okay condition they'll give you $3. they're not in good condition at all or maybe they'll give you a dollar or something, but um but if they're not in good condition, they'll just recycle them.
And the whole idea is to avoid them going into a landfill. And so um we had a program at Wayside School where Susan Cole, Susan Cole is is one of the teachers there. She was she spearheaded it and basically it was a stream of
income for the PTA to get like you know 4050 $60 $100 over the course of the year because people were bringing tons of sneakers and fleets and things like that to schools that their kids outgrew or they outgrew. And so um you know the
organization basically will like if you register with them we'll send you money um based on what you send back and what exactly are they doing with these things? So they're either selling them probably if they're in really good condition like
thrift stores and things like that. But in terms of recycling, I don't exactly know the process they use to recycle sneakers, but I do know that they they're trying to keep them from filling up
their initiative is the goal of it, but that's what I what you do is I mean, I think there are there are places that scrap like the fabric and then they'll scrap the eyelets and they'll scrap the actual
pieces of it because like I I do know that there are aftermarkets for even like one shoe like we had talked about it with help there's like there's some places because then they'll m they'll try to mash shoes together. I mean it's a little crazy but people who deal in this stuff deal with it all the time you
know. Um, okay. So, but but I remember going through so many sneakers from the library and some of them were really nice like like luxury brand sneakers. So, I'm sure that, you know, if people bring in
something, you know, we might be able to get get something for it or at best just to keep like have a green initiative of keeping that. I'll tell you this. There was a Jeopardy question at times questions. I figured
this out was basically the question was what what what is this? What kind of merchandise is it? Well, I'll give you the answer. Bottom line is every year there's a Super Bowl wear loser. Okay. But they both have prepared
all the clothing that they wear after they've won the game. Hats, shirts, whatever else it is. Yeah. So the loser stuff it goes to third loser stuff usually goes to third world. It does. Yes. But you know say so you know say you
take go on safari in Africa and you might see that whole champion whoever lost to the evolves. I just because you don't think about this and this imagine how much merch they put together because the green team they must be selling them
in stands too know how much stuff there is. It's the first thing I think of when I'm watching the game. I'm like, wait, what about the loser stuff? Yeah. All right. Um, we shall move on. So, we will um we can have a discussion on what
we want our tables initiative and when we spread the word when we all should we set a date or we can just jump on an email to discuss further once we see if anyone else can let's like email for now. Um, okay. I think last meeting we really
discussed a lot on um the importance of volunteer collaboration. So we'll definitely keep that the forefront of our mission here. Um anyone have anything to add to that other than I know we discussed Girl Scouts and the
Boy Scouts and collaborating with them on future projects. I'm just collecting ideas of like what the other ECs are doing in other areas. So yeah, just coming up with lists and we can start to look at what others do and get ideas from. So
great. Yeah, you can sometimes see these in the ANG uh bulletin that comes out. They're great with all that. Yeah, shows what different environmental commissions are doing. Yeah, they're always reposting what others do and highlighting what they do
and yes, I I've been keeping a a phone copy of each thing. Every time I see a good one, I'm like snap and save it. So yeah. So you get you get the check for Well, I I follow them on like Instagram and Facebook and that's where I see them
doing exactly what you're saying. Yeah. They're highlighting all these organizations and what they're doing. So, and when we do something, we should get publicity, too. We do. Yes, I know. That's good. But even uh even getting them posted on
social media from my Greenfest. Yeah. There's a way now that you can um ask them to collaborate with you. So when you put up a picture and what we're doing, you can tag them and then they can be a collaborator and then it reaches all their people. So you know keeps
that's a great idea. And you had an article a few months ago. Yeah. I I do a lot of random things. All right. So random. Um, hey Julia is Julia. Is it
Are you there? Go ahead. Yes. Jeff. Oh, yeah. I just want to say I'm gonna I'm gonna sign off. I'm gonna sit down with my family and have some dinner. Is that okay? Bye. Enjoy. You enjoy.
Okay. Thanks. Have a nice night, everybody. You too, Jeff. Okay. Bye. Just Oh, sorry. Go ahead. Just as a quick aside while we're on the topic of Anjac, Anjax's uh congress this year is October 10th. It's coming up everyone wants to go. Where is it?
Um they moved it. Hang on. Was this the thing in Bell Works? Yes, but it is not in Bellworks. No, that was um Sustainable Jersey. Oh, right, right, right. This one it's going to be at the New Brunswick Theological Seminary this
year. Um it had been at Mercer County Community College forever, but there what do they do there? What do they do there? So the environmental congress is they have keynote speakers like any other conference, but they also have breakout
workshops on a number of topics specific to an environmental commission. So um some of the ones they've done over the year are how to read site plans or how to tackle storm water management or how to do volunteer work. So, it's it's all
topics that are related to EC. Wish. Oh my gosh. Could you imagine if that was one of our demonstrations at Fireman's field? Look at I would do that. I would be out there digging. Be like, "Look, you put dirt over the
Um, okay. Well, thank you for that. Um, would is there some kind of flyer for it or invitation? Donna, if you get a chance, can you just check and see who is on the list? Julie should be getting
and Jack emails. Yeah, I don't get that. Yeah. Okay. Just make sure that they have her updated info. Yeah, that'd be great. Unless I need to check my spam folder. Should be every everybody. Does everyone get it? No. Okay. So, maybe we just need to do a
quick update. Okay. All right. So, just two um things I want to just mention. Um Patty Cronheim, as we all know from the Shade Tree Commission, I'm sure she discussed this last meeting um regarding the William Transfo Northeast Supply Enhancement
Pipeline that's um we're obviously trying to oppose that going in. It's detrimental to the Raritan Bay and Sea Life uh etc. I have a proposed resolution here that Patty had given to
Jeff who was going to discuss with the council. Dozens and dozens of towns in New Jersey have signed opposing this pipeline. So Ocean Township was not one of them. So Patty's pushing for us to be on there. Are you familiar with it? Did
she mention it? So she was going in front of the um she was going to go in front of the council, but uh Dave actually took over. He took the resolution and is going to introduce it to the council and then they'll vote if they would like to proceed with it.
But um kudos to Patty for bringing it to our attention. Um you know there was some kind of pipeline that everyone but that was getting approved somewhere. Donna am I allowed to pass this around? It's the resolution. Yeah. Yeah. If you
want to skim through it, just so I just want to say so this particular pipeline, they tried to do this like 10 years ago and then it had a lot of opposition and then it fell off and now it's back. And for all the other issues with pipelines, this one in particular,
they are trying to build a compressor station next to the trap rock quarry in Franklin where they have dynamite and explosions and shaking of the earth is where they want to put the compressor station. Like
there are bad ideas and those are really bad ideas and this tends to fall in the really bad idea. Where does the pipeline go? Um, it crosses I don't remember if they're digging a new crossing of the Delaware, but
essentially it's coming from somewhere around southern Mercer County and then up through Franklin and then across the Bay. And I think it's part of a I'm trying to remember. They've changed some of the specs. At one point
it was going to be LNG export. Um, but I don't remember if that's still it. What is this? Natural gas. Yeah, it's a gas pipeline for export like a press natural gas on ships. Yeah, I think. I'm not sure.
Well, there was there were a number of pipelines that they were all proposing at the same time. There was the one that wind up getting approved that went through the Pinelands. Um, there was Penn East that got voted down. There was this one. Um, it's mostly moving frack
and gas from Pennsylvania east. Um, yeah. Yep. So, I wanted to share that with you all because um I would like to tell her she obviously has the full environmental commission support on this and so I like
to see this signed. Norm will pass it along when he's done. Um, the next thing I wanted to update you guys all on is September 16th, we're having a stakeholders, the Ocean Township Shade Tree Commission is holding a um stakeholders meeting here
in town hall downstairs um at 7 p.m. Um this is management plan that has to be updated by the end of this year and this year is typical. This is year one of the plan
because we're just writing and has four additional years and we've hired some was our last meeting. It's like there's many steps and it's collaborate with stakeholders. A lot of steps we have to take. So this is the
first one. We're just chipping away at everything we need to do. Some additional things that that are mandatory. Survey is mandatory to bring people up to date. So we had a survey. We had a grant. We had a survey and we thought we
were going to get a lot of trees. have to do that stuff. Okay. And um so that that's part of uh and did you say that was back to school the plan has what we expect and what to spend on on trees and so on and so forth
maintaining trees etc et you know um but we don't really have in place a real tree maintenance you work issues. So we've got trees that have grown. We did a very nice planting
on Alpine and some of the surrounding streets near college and we put them in the space between the and the trees grew pretty good. That's part of the problem was there traffic hazard
but we didn't leave them. I saw you have to get continuing education units. It's one of the uh requirements for community forestry certification and so on and so forth which gives us certain indemnity being sued for certain things that may
or may not happen and uh so one of the ones I saw was they were talking about trees right so picture of a tree it's a good looking tree not big but it's got you know it's maybe 12 or 15 feet high right and it's got a nice trunk it's
really branch guy says that nothing you see on that tree, no leaves or branches you see on that tree will be on the tree when it's a tree. The tree will grow and it'll be limbmed up. You know, that's where you see these massive trees. But this you look up the
nearest leaves are there somewhere. And so we didn't do that. We're not doing that. And uh so it's like long term the planet people.
So we do need to work on those things and u you if you have a front of your own home is a tree that's your responsibility even though it's in the town's right away which I think sometimes they do it so they don't
take responsibility for that create a budget. So I will be there the 16th if anyone wants to join downstairs. Um do we have any attendee remarks from this evening or anything I may have over book?
I just wanted to ask about the meadow. What was the latest then with all the little trees that are growing? I had um sent my concerns to Steve Higgins, the DPW, and um he acknowledged them and I
haven't followed up since. Have you heard anything? We I just brought I brought it up. It's just the way it is. But if you drive every time you drive past it, it's worse. Sweet crumb trees. There's this other thing I forget what it's called. I looked it up. It has these white
flowers. You see now that three time and so forth and so because if you go back far enough there wasn't a meadow was just mowed. It was just an open area that was mowed regularly. And looking back, that
actually was pretty good because all it was was grass and you know people would watch fireworks there and so on and so forth and so but it wasn't a disaster area which it is now. Then someone said let's let it just grow through the meadow and people with the
animals there doing their thing and so on and so forth and it sort of we got to know when do you do you mow it every year or not? What do you do? And what about the animals? There's always some point of year where the animals going to be disturbed. I'm not sure who was respon I was one of the responsible people and then suddenly but now it's
just and there's a lot of work required in there. You can't recreate that like it is. You got to get all that stuff out of there. Can't just cut them down. You know, they got to be removed. So there's a lot of work and effort that would
require to make the metal a metal. really needs to be done. Well, it doesn't need to be done if you don't care if you have a forest. Yeah. Right. Those are two alter. Those are looks like the two alternatives. And then you have to have a plan to so
that the metal will be maintained, you know, basically it own budget, some weights. I think that's basically what Stephen had said to me, but I'll follow up with him. We were seeing him like monthly and then we really all fell off this summer. So, I'm sure we'll be seeing him soon.
I'm sure he'll be at our stakeholder meeting. I think he's a good I like talking to Yeah, he's great. Very helpful. If they have a plan, um I mean it's part of the property. They must have some idea of what they're going to do and they're aware of it. So that's
probably just knowing sometime in the fall is once the birds just go back to it. Yeah. If they can get the trees out and then you know I think if you I don't know enough but I think if you get
enough native plants really packed in there kind of like the aspberry circle I think it's really hard for a tree to take root and grow there. Um, I don't know for sure, but I think that's the idea of getting a dense meadow of native
plants, but it's not it's not it was what it was, right? And you know, now it's what it is. It was what it was and now it is what it is.
So, was it planned? Was it a planned meadow just or became I think it accidentally became a planned I think they threw in the property he had had it mowed in the township.
Yeah I I I can't tell one time mowing it and it was when the the helicopter came down but maybe I don't notice when they do it right I just Anyway, it's not a meadow now,
a mini forest. You know, they talk about the prairies, okay, and the grasses, how they grew, what the prairie was, you know, I mean, the grasses and everything made the prairie what it was back then would hide
a man on horse. That's how distinction was just so that was sort of like a meadow in its own way, right? If you think about it, just whatever reason there weren't trees and all that sort of stuff is as high as an elephant side. Exactly.
We need our own little oceans for bison. Yes. Analopee. Yeah. If if they'll keep the deer out, that would be excellent, you know. Um, anyone? Yes, I want to mention
something. So, um, I don't know if you guys have gone, but over the summer, um, we went to Jeff in the White Plaza and they had reusable bowls. So, that was something I wanted to mention because we are the American, but like they and you have your plastics campaign.
Um, but I thought it was a really nice thing to see that, you know, it it's more than just like having a reusable cup. actually want their customers to come back with their own. And do you save? Do you buy the full ones? Like a dollar off or something?
That's nice. I don't know if it's a dollar off, but I think like there is some they're easy to try that place. It's a good It's a good Yeah. Thank you. They're using reusables.
Um we were speaking before earlier um because Norm is wearing Environmental Commission merch. Yeah. And it's been some time since we've gotten merch. Show us. But they had said previously that everyone paid out of pocket for it. Is that correct?
We got we used public funds. Okay. We uh so I guess we just said environmental. Okay. We have someone designed this logo. You see it up there. See, they sold it before. I was pointing it out.
Oh, yeah. That's nice. Uh, so they when we had when they had the parade, we would get seeds, you know, flower seeds, and each packet would have that thing on. We got a print, we order some place to print the packet. We want it back,
right? And we we'd give them out. you know, during the Memorial Day parade, right? And it was that was neat. We could give them out at the green. I would love that. Yes. We we like got a huge bulk order and we
just always had it to have at our environmental commission like tables at Green Fest. Timothy who did the 5K, he did the milkeed seeds and then his 5K was early so he brought over the leftover seeds which was like, you know, 500 packets and gave them to us to give
out. Yeah, that's always a great thing. Yeah. So, uh I remember getting them. Yeah. And they the laterest is which is becoming the season. Yeah. people who want them will see.
Yeah. And if we get the green fest back to spring and you know, but so um how would we do that? Like looking into March, is that something we could just do or we have to go through a town? Yeah. Okay. We don't have to be like Ocean
Township, give us your seal to So on their seal, you're going to make your own. Yeah. Okay. Okay. We could look into stuff like that. There's those companies, too, where you
can just, you know, print as you go. So, you know, and they're not that expensive anymore. No, no, we want 10 or a month from now, we want five more. And so, the Italian American Association has a deal with one where it is literally just you want a shirt, they will make a
shirt. Yeah. It takes a few days to print it, but it is your you pick the color, you pick the size, it's their graphic design. So, you know, if you like Norm shirt with the logo, but that that color is really not your style. You could get a different color. It's a
match. And they were I mean, they were no different than if I were to go out and buy a shirt like free printing. Yeah. Y well we have some great plans headed into this what fourth quarter
depending on what fiscal year or not go by. Okay. Do I have a motion to close this meeting? So move second. All in favor? I I